A replie vpon the R.R.P.Th. VVinton. for heads of his divinity in his sermon and survey Hovv he taught a perfect truth, that our Lord vvent he[n]ce to Paradise: but adding that he vvent thence to Hades, & striving to prove that, he iniureth all learning & christianitie. To the most honorable henry prince of Great Britany. Broughton, Hugh, 1549-1612. 1605 Approx. 37 KB of XML-encoded text transcribed from 25 1-bit group-IV TIFF page images. Text Creation Partnership, Ann Arbor, MI ; Oxford (UK) : 2007-01 (EEBO-TCP Phase 1). A16999 STC 3881 ESTC S113850 99849079 99849079 14211 This keyboarded and encoded edition of the work described above is co-owned by the institutions providing financial support to the Early English Books Online Text Creation Partnership. This Phase I text is available for reuse, according to the terms of Creative Commons 0 1.0 Universal . The text can be copied, modified, distributed and performed, even for commercial purposes, all without asking permission. Early English books online. (EEBO-TCP ; phase 1, no. A16999) Transcribed from: (Early English Books Online ; image set 14211) Images scanned from microfilm: (Early English books, 1475-1640 ; 631:05) A replie vpon the R.R.P.Th. VVinton. for heads of his divinity in his sermon and survey Hovv he taught a perfect truth, that our Lord vvent he[n]ce to Paradise: but adding that he vvent thence to Hades, & striving to prove that, he iniureth all learning & christianitie. To the most honorable henry prince of Great Britany. Broughton, Hugh, 1549-1612. 48 p. s.n.], [Amsterdam? : 1605. Signed: Hugh Broughton. Place of publication conjectured by STC. R.R.P.Th = Bilson, Bp. of Winchester. An answer to STC 3064 and 3070. Leaves stained. Reproduction of the original in Cambridge University Library. Created by converting TCP files to TEI P5 using tcp2tei.xsl, TEI @ Oxford. Re-processed by University of Nebraska-Lincoln and Northwestern, with changes to facilitate morpho-syntactic tagging. 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F. TH. VVINTON FOR HEADS OF HIS DIVINITY IN HIS SERMON AND SVRVEY : Hovv he taught a perfect truth , that our Lord vvent hēce to Paradise ▪ But adding that he vvent thence to Hades , & striving to prove that , he injurieth all learning & Christianitie ▪ TO THE MOST NOBLE HENRY PRINCE OF GREAT BRITANY . 1605. TO THE MOST NOBLE , HENRY PRINCE OF GREAT BRITANIE , Grace & truth . IN handling the LORds prayer ( most noble Prince ) at O●landes August 13. 1603. VVhen I came to speake of the Kingdome to come , the matter called me to handle these vvordes : Lord remember thou me when thou comest to thy Kingdome : & these : This day shalt thou be with me in Paradise , From vvhich both I affirmed that the thefe beleved rightly , as all the Scribes & Pharisees , that the soules of the just , of Abel , and all that died since , vvent hence to that place vvich Diuines call Heauē . And I affirmed from Eccles . 3. & from the 12. & 2. Cor. 10. that the soules of all men ascend vnto God : vnto judgement : to receaue according to the actions done by the body good or euell . And this I added from Apoc. 14 That the wicked are tormented afore the throne of God & the Lambe . This belonging directly to the doctrine of the Kingdome , I vvas to shevv hovv the Crede stroue not vvith this : yf the English had rightly expressed the Greke : he went vnto the soules departed : as this , he arose from the dead , or from Hades , makes the former vvordes plain . About this doctrine D. Bilson B. of Vv. hath dealt not vvell . A survey of vvhose dealings your G. shall see : that knovving hovv he is damned of himselfe , you may vvish him to recant . First he agreeth vvith the truth in most stronge sort : that , we have no warrant by scripture to deny that our Lord went hence to Paradise . His vvordes are printed in Copies about ten thousand : that all may knovv hovv D. Bilson in his further paynes confuteth the Bishop of vvinchester . He that vvill do any thing in Diuinity vvithout vvarrant of Scripture shall anger God. Therfor D. Bilson is vnexcusable vvhen he goeth against that . An other article the right reverend father hath for Christianity , & the ground of our redemptiō : more ridiculous then any thing in Machmads Alkoran : vvorthy to be vvritten in great letters , that any rūning by may see to vvhat strange cōceites he vvold dravv the holy Prophetes , Apostles , & Fathers , & all Britanie . In his Sermon thus the right reverend father vvritteth : fol. 154. The sence of the Crede may & must be ●s●at Chri H●f●er his body was buried , in soule descended into that place , which the Scripture proprely calleth Hades hell , This fevv vvordes are enough to shame all our nation for euer : touching judgment in Diuinitie : since Publiq auctoritie hath commended his vvorke . Homer that expresseth all the Heathen vanities durst neuer bring this Diuinitie but only in a dreame . In him and in Iliade or story of Ilion , called also Troy : book 23. v. 71. the soule of Patrocles killed sayth to Achilles his Prince in a dreame , requesting to to be buried , because the soules in Hades vvold not suffre his soule till then to come to Hades : Oh bury me : that I may quickly passe through the gates of Hades . They vvho svveat to make the Gospell of saluation in sadnes more ridiculous then Heathen fables , should look for the extraordinary hand of God to send them to Hades quickly . What man that vvere not brainsik vvold think that the Cred should tell hovv our Lord in body crucified , dead & buryed , should in soule be vnrecorded , vvhither the soule vvent , or vvher it should be till the body vvas buried . A Defender in title , a betrayer in truth , of our religion in Britanie , should b● told that better lerning vvold beseme a man , a D. in D. a R. R. F. All Ievves vvold by this , & vvel might hold vs the vilest that euer vvere since Cains birth , yf they could convict vs to be of such a religion : & all Christendome vvold hate vs , as traytours to the Christian faith . He that taketh vpon him to defend the cōmon opiniō : & once graunteth all that the disputation required : & inventeth of his ovvne braine that vvhich none hold , injurieth all the state : and giving a Patroclean dreame for the marravv of salvatiō , should have vpon stuburne continuance in errour the heavy Anathema maran Atha . The curse : Our Lord himself cometh to revenge him , pronounced against him . God commaundeth that ▪ 1 Cor. 16. And every commādement of God should be of as great reverence as his vvord in sayng : Let light be : & it vvas . An other condemnation of himself the right reverēd father hath in his survey fol. 543. Thus he sayth : That Christ after death went to the place where the faithfull were , the fa●h●rs affirme . Thē , yf Abrahams Bosom be the place vvhere the faithfull vvere , & they vveare in Hades , by the Grek fathers infinitely vsing the phrase of the Crede : The Hades of the Crede & Abrahams bosom is all one . It is strange that a reasonable creature should make a book against himself . A further condemnatiō of himself he findeth from Luc. 16. The holy Evangelist most eloquent in the Greek tongue , & vvriting to an heathen Prince Theophilus Asiarches one of the Lords of Asia bringeth Abraham talking vvith the Epicure in Hades . Novv heathen place all soules in Hades , and Theophilus vvould so vnderstand S. Luke : that Abraham should be there . And disputers together be allvvayes holden to be in the same vvorld . The right re●erend father vvold prove that Hades is Hell , from this place : vvhich most mightily proueth the cleane contrary ; that the faithfull Abraham vvho vvent hence to heaven , Eb. 11. & there abideth till the resurrection , vvas in Hades . So the terme is generall for the vvorld of Soules . And auctours vvhom he citeth vvould haue taught him so much : Chrisostome in a Greke Homilie , not yet printed : of Lazarus & the Epicure . Theophylact citing manie Diuines : vpon Luc. 16. Tertullian Ambrose , Chrisologus cited by him self , on that place : & Iosephus cited also by himself , expresly placeth Abrahams bosom in Hades . And that vvork is so agreable to the common judgement of Graecia , that the vvork is fathered vpon Irenaeus the ancient Bishop nere the Apostles , , and vpon sundry others of fame . And vvheras the Doctour vvold haue Hell lovv in the earth : and must graunt that Abraham is in Heauen : so the spech should be ridiculous : that in a Dialoge one should talke vvith one aboue his head of such infinite millions of miles distāce . And the spech of lifting vp the eyes argueth equall height : So Lot lifted vp his eyes & saw the Land about fayre , Gen. 13.10 . So God sayd to Abraham lift vp thy●e ey●s & behold the place wher thou art . Gen. 13.14 . The third day Abraham lifted vp his eies & beho●d the p●a●e ●f whi●h God spake to him &c. So Abraham l●fted vp h●s eyes & saw three men , Gen. 18. So Abraham l●fted vp his eies : & behold a ram was in a thicket fast b● the hornes . So Isaak did l●ft vp his e●es : and behold Camel were coming Gen. 24.63 . And in the next vers . Rebecca lifted vp her eyes , & saw Isaak . And in Iacobs story six times that phrase cometh . This spech being so vsuall , no D. should bring strangenes vpon it : But D. Bilson doth and trobleth the simple : & disputeth against himselfe . For the vse of the phrase still argueth vevving in equal soyle . An other terme chasma trobleth the right reuerēd father . A deepe gulfe he doth expound it : from his ovvne auctoritie . Hiatus , or gaping , vvere fit ▪ vvhen a man gapeth , men consider not hovv deepe the mouth ●s : but hovv vvide . In Zach. 14. ●n the lxx . mount olevet shal be parted into a great chasma : half ●astvvard , & half vvestvvard . Ther the blind may see , that no●●he depth , but the vvidenes cometh to be considered . So Babish ●he D. is in all his vvritting . And ●is vnspeakable blindnes appea●eth in this : He reiecteth heathē Greke vvith odious termes : and ●reameth that the Apostles had ● peculiar Greke of their ovvne ; ●et euery vvhit of the N. Testament is penned in Greke as heathē or Ievves before vnderstood the phrases : & the heathen had held the Apostles vvicked Sophisters , yf heathen termes had not bene in heathen sense : or in schole poinctes , such as Pharisees vvold graunt plain . All trades haue peculiarity in generall vvordes , dravving them to particular vnderstanding . But then all of the faculty take them alike . Four Grekes are in the Nevv testamēt : These fovvr Grekes the Apostles haue . The heathen , vsed as heathen meant in speach to them : or , heathen termes vsed as the Greek translaters of the old testament vsed them : or heathen termes applyed in nevv sort to Ebrevv , plain by it self : or heathen Greke applyed vnto Thalmudik or Ievves Doctors phrases . Further cometh none by the Apostles . The Diuels language goeth further in Abissos : to the vvicked Cabalistes maner in Zohar vpon Gen. 1. Darkenes vvas vpon the face of the Pit. Ther they say that resembled Gehenna : & call the depe Gehenna . For all these poinctes D. Bilson shevveth himself a Babe : & sometimes goeth beyond all . Hades nether by heathen , nor lxx . , nor Apostles , nor Thalmud is euer Hel. yet his headstrōg vnlerned head vvill have it so : Halting afore Creples : & hoping by much babling to be heard . The lxx . take Abissus for the graue Ps . 71.22 . Thou diddest make me aliue againe & diddest bring me again from the Abissos of the earth . S. Paul. Rom. 10. folovveth the very same phrase for the resurrection of the Lord ▪ saie not in thine hart : who can go vp into heauen ? I meane , to bring Christ downe : or who can go downe to the pit ; I meane to bring Christ from the dead ? But yf thou confesse vvith thy mouth : that Iesus is the ETERNALL : & beleue in thine hart that God hath brought him frō the dead : thou shalt be saved . S. Paul alluding to Moses Dauid & Ionas spak to Ievves hovv in tvvo poinctes Diuinity stood & telleth vvhat Moses & all the Prophetes taught : even the incarnation & resurrection : and expoundeth him self : speaking of Ievves reiected ▪ shevveth their stubburnesse : that having but tvvo poincts of difference , the incarnation & the resurrection , both proved most strongly , rebell against the light . And here D. Bilsō leauing all heathen , the lxx . all the Prophetes Ebrevv , all Thalmudiques can run to the Diuels Luc. 8. for a phrase . VVheras vvhen S. Paul vvrote to the Romanes , none in the vvorld had vsed Abissus for Hell : sauing the Deuels in S. Lukes Gospell vvritten but seauen yeares afore : & Ievves of vvhom he spake neuer cared for S. Luke : and denying both the incarnation & resurrection , vvold not heare of further matter neuer taught in Iuda : and that , spoken in termes meaning to all Ievves clean an other matter . Hence all that haue eyes to see may behold hovv blind D. Bilson is : vvhich hath nether Grammer nor Diuinity : nor loue to the truth . He citeth Oecumenius there : and omitteth his vvordes that make this plain : and dissembleth the best lerned Chrisostome . This cauterized consciēce should be reproued sharply . Novv the third kind of Grek , the Apostles folovving the Ebrevv , Deut. 30. D. Bilson litle considered , hovv the going vp to heauen , and going dovvne to Abissus is of our myndes , not of our Lordes actions . The chaldy exposition , of heard termes in Moses , maketh that plain . The vvork is called Thargum Ierusalemi . And thus it speabeth . The law is not in the heauens to cause spech oh that we had one like Moses the Prophet , that might goe vp into the heauens , & bring it vnto vs , & preach vnto vs the commaundements , that we might doe them : & the Law is not beyond the great sea , to cause speach : oh that we had one Like Ionas the Prophet that might goe downe into the great sea & bring it vs , & preach the commaundementes that we might doe them . Thus the Chaldy shevveth that for our action of the mynd this vvas spoken : as forbidding blame of hardenes in the Lavv. And the Rabbins vvhich haue in fragmentes yet the floures of all the N. Test . they seme to haue turned these vvordes of old , vnto the Gospell : by this spech of Ionas in the vvalles belly . The later Rabines compiled most auncient . And for this cause S. Paul might take Abissus both for the graue , as Oecumenius doth , & allude vnto the sea : as Chrisostome taketh the vvord . So it may be easily seene hovv for the Apostles trāslation of Ebrevv , D. Bilson seeth nothing . So had the sorovves of death , act . 2. are from Ps . 18.5 . & Ps . 116.3 . a speach knovven to all Ievves : for the naturall sorovves , that alvvayes cometh vvhē the body is vvounded , that the soule cannot tary in it . And vvheras S. Peter act . 2. vvas to shevv that the disciples did not steale the body of Iesus our sauiour , but God omnipotent raised it vp : disannulling the sores that vvere done by nailes & speare : D. Bilsō vvold have the terme death here to be the second death : and that S. Peter should by terme of death in a iust soule meane the second death : to make the holy Apostle the foolishest & the vvickeddest that euer spak vvith tongue . He had the resurrection of the body to speak of , and vvher the gouernours vvere Sadducees & beleeued not that soules vvere immortall , vvisdome vvold that his tongue should giue no cause of further pleading , till the resurrection of the body vvas graūted . And though the Pharisees held soules to be immortall , yet they beleued not that Messias should arise from death : & yf S. Peter should haue gone to further matter neuer heard , that a iust soule should goe to hell , vvherof no cause of spech vvas euer afore moued ▪ he had bē held not a teacher but a betrayer of Christianity . Moreouer the terme of Second Death , vvhich D. Bilson vvold haue meant by Peters terme of death , is nether Ethnice , nor in the lxx . nor hath any Ebrevv in the Bible for it . Therfore it should not vvel be vsed before Sadducees , & the comon multitude of the vvorld . & never any vsed Death for the secōd death in spech of the Godly . And to say that our Lords soules tasted the second death , that is the highest degree of blasphemy against our Lord. The fourth vse of heathen Grek cometh in this king : Rabinique , & schole spech in vse , though the tetmes come from heathen . Chalcedon Apoc. 21. for Nophec , the Carbuncle , Ex. 28. is Greke in sound : but not as Pliny taketh the Chalcedon , but as Thargum Ierusalemy doth vpon Ex. 28. So , Take the beame out of thyne eye : Barbmel vpon Hoseas . and Mat. 7.80 . for a Camel or Elephant to goe through the ey of a neddle : that is a Ievvish proverb . for promising a thing vnpossible as in this : Are you from Phumbadita , ( a tovvne of Ievves vpon Euphrates called also aelgaber ) , vvher an Elephāt is trust thtough the vvole of a nedle . And the Gospell hath that for the impossibility for a rich man to goe into the kingdome of heaven . So these speches the vvorld to come , Paradise , Gehenna , eating & drinking in the kingdome of of heauen , the kingdome of the Messias : these be Thalmudiqs in meaning : & vsed in the N T. So , S. Paul. 2. Thes . citeth Esa . 11. in the Rabbines meaning vpon Es . ther , extant yet in Ionathan Ben Vziel ▪ That the spirit of Christ his mouth shall kill the vvicked Romulus or Romane . The Greek fathers as Chrisostome vpon 2. Thes . 2. and Oecumenius vpon Apoc. 18. savv that from Rome the povver should arise that by learning should be over●hrovven . Arias savv the blovv and left out RomuIus . So vvhē by S. Paul Abraham is in heaven : Heb. 11. vvith the people of God and in eternall ioy , and equall to Angels : by the Greek Philo. in Abels offring fol. 88. & by Rabbi Azarias translating him to Ebrevv in Maor Einaim fol. 34. to shevv the Perpetuall iudgement of the Ievves : & the same in Paradise as all the iust : by all Rabbines ; and in Hades by S. Luke Ch. 16. These three , Heaven , Paradise , and Hades in the Godly differ not one vvhit . Iustine Martyr is cited by D. Bilson : Question 75. to make Paradise out of Hades : but Iustine in Monarchia shevveth fol : 167. in Steph. edition , that he is sophistically cited . And so any , not partiall , vvold iudge from the vvordes cited . In the same kind is the terme of the Second death , vsed : & only by Thalmudiques as I touched : and by them it must be expounded . Onkelos hath it : Deut. 33. and Ionathan , Es . 22. & Rabbines infinitly : & vsed in Ap. tvvise , and in theyr sense : for a miserie to the soule in the perpetuall hatred of God. And by Rabbinnes this phrase should be expounded : and a reason rendred vvhy the Rabbines invēted nevv termes for the place of soules . In all these kindes D. Bilson shevveth him self most vnlearned . Heathen Greeke he casteth of : Because the Poetes vvere vvicked : as though onely they vsed Hades & not all sortes of Greekes : and as though all the vvorld vvas not Godlesse vvhen the Apostles first called them vvith speaches from Homer , Hesiode , Epimerides , Aratus , Menander , Aeschylus , Pindarus , Sophocles , Euripides , Aristophanes , Hypocrates , Plato , Demosthenes , Aristotle , and all noble Greekes , in some noble vvord . Of this I have compiled a Dictionary for all the vvordes of the N. Testamēt , for your G. vvhich I left at Francfurt : & goe to print it : yf I can find any Printer : of Characters pleasant in Ebrvv & Greeke , and at leasure for this vvorke . And as he despised heathen Greeke , so the Greeke tongue gaue him such a blovv as vvill make him ridiculous to all Greekes vvhile the vvorld standeth : in sayng that our Lord vvent from Paradis to Hades : as from England or Scotland to great Britany , frō VVinchester , to England , from Paules to London . vvhile there be men in the vvorld that knovv Greek & his vvordes they vvill think him a simple Graecian . And vvher he forgeth nevv Greeke for the Apostles , he doth them litle honour . They vvere sent to teach the vvicked vvorld , & of necessity must speak in termes , meaning as others before spake : and the heathen vvold haue othervvise held them vvicked sophisters and not holy teachers . So Doctor Bilsons Doctrine beseemeth not a Bishop , and a Christian . The despising of Rabbines because they be vvicked is no vvittier . The vvicked enemies testimonie is the strongest of all humane . And for many partes of the nevv Testament , in speeches & stories plain to them , but strongue to heathen , they are our best assistance . As for this Remember thou me vvhen thou comest to they kingdome & this day shalt thou be with me in Paradise : The Rabines vvould all svveare that these vvordes vvere plain : that they held the soules of the iust , to goe hence to Gods ioy & Paradise to be the name of it , and not then first opened : but opened first to Abel the iust , they vvold never turne our Lords vvordes to Sophistrie : that the sad thief seeking , grace vvhen the humane soule of Christ should be in his kingdome & our Lord should say nothing to that : but preach of his Godhead vpon the crosse , vvher he most hid it : and should leaue the thief , and his mother & S. Iohn & all the troupes vncerten , vvhat should become of his most holy soule : specially vvhen the night before he told them , I DOE GOE VNTO THE FATHER . The deadliest enemy & most impudent vvold be ashamed so to vvrest vvordes . Though shifters vvho knevv not Paradise to haue receaued all the iust hence , tooke strange licence , a Doctour & a Bishop borne in the light of all learning should blush to follovv them . VVhosoeuer vttereth a diuelish fansy , though he can cite an auctour , should pay for it , as the principall auctour . God forbiddeth errours . And in the truth , the enemies testimony , as Epimenides , Aratus , & Menander haue Gods vvarrant . All the Scribes & Pharisees beleeved , that every iust soule vvent hence to Paradise : as vvas touched : & the sage Doctours euen in the first chapter of the Elder Thalmud , begin the kingdome of Messias in the vvorld to come : as S. Paul Fb. 2. speaketh of it : after the comon agreement of the Doctours thē aliue . And if Christ his ovvne soule should not be the noblest in that iourney : all the Nevv Testament speaches vvere disturbed . And many most sure rules for the iust are in the Lavv that they goe hence into Gods ioy or heavenly city . Enoch vvas taken vp . Gen. 6. into Paradise Eb , 11. in the Arabiq trāslation . Sem , Abraham , Moses , Iosuah , David , Daniel , vvere of equall piety : therfore theyr soules vvere taken vp hence to glory . And this standeth sure for all that keepe Gods covenant : I vvill vvalke amōgest you : Leu. 26. vvherof a Rabbin or Ebrevv Doctour R. B●chay vvritteth thus : you must not vnderstand that of promises corporall , but of the promises touching the soule in the vvorld to come . And our Doctours gather this hēce , THE BLESSED GOD VVIL CARY THE IVST PEOPLE INTO PARADISE AND HIS GLORY SHALL BE AMONGEST THEM . This diuinity is oftē confirmed in the Nevv Testament , as in Iohn 17. I vvill that they be vvher I am 8. 2. Cor. 5. VVe knovv that if this earhtly tabernacle of ours be dissolved , vve have a building from God , an house not made vvith handes , eternall in the heauens . Thus the Nevv Testament speaketh most agreably to the Rabbines speach : as it hath but tvvo poinctes differing from them , the incarnation & resurrection . yf the Ievves can be persuaded of those tvvo , they vvill admire all the rest as eloquently agreing vvith the pure and the best of their doctrine . A Rabbin at Basil 1598. made this knovven to the Scholers there : vvho being taught in longue speach , hovv the Apostles excelled in all Thalmud skill , vvhen the party vvas gone to Zurick desired the Professors to vvrite to them of Zurick , to request him to returne . But the party could not : yet left in print that vvhich might move him : & moved one Ievv that novv is in Cambridge , as Merchants of Stode say he confessed there , to be a Christian : by the CNOstantinopolitans Ievves petition of instruction from England , and by ansvver to him . And all vvould admire the Nevv Testament : being expounded according to theyr speach to vvhō the bookes vvere vvritten . But vvhen Latines vvhich vvere rude in the Greek and Hebrevv of the Apostles age , must be cited , by Doctours as rude , darkenes & confusion vvill take all . D. Bilson ignorance thus appeareth . He tooke in hand to defend Ar. VVhitgift : that our Lord his soule vvent hence to Hel : and not hence to heauen . All sides agree that no further iourney vvas taken out of the body but the returne from Hades to it . So he took in hand to defend D. VVhitgift . But he betrayed him to his eternall shame : in that he imprisonned many , persecuted more , and vrged some to death vpon consequentes for denying that our Lord vvent hence to Hell. D. Bilson yet betrayeth him : to smart for his hereticall disturbāce of the Church : and ioineth against VVhitgift vvith the aduersarie : that our Lord vvent hence to Paradise . This matter is past all deniall : that D. Bilson betrayeth Canterburies cause : to shevv it to haue bene hereticall and Sathanean : that the Prince might call him to heauy iudgement . And vvhile D. Bilson is of any auctority , D. Bancroft folovving D. VVh . must needes be holden an heretique . But this only is not D. Bilsons vvisdome . more he hath . VVheras he bringeth scripture for himself and his adversary , & must plead that King Edvvard the sixt vvas of his mynd , and Q. E. and the King your graces father ; seing he sayth as doth his aduersarie , and , by D. Bilson , God & the Princes say the same , it is euidēt that yf he rage against any one for saying that our Lord vvent hence to Paradise , by scripture , by our Princes faith , by D. Bilsons faith , he rageth against God , against the Princes and his ovvne soule . But all this doth D. Bilson . His vvordes shall be commended plentifully to all posterity . Thus they stande in his sermon book fol. 419. speaking to M. Iacob . Tell then your abettour that all the realme vvill take him not only for a rayler against all honesty , but a lyer against all duty that voucheth so confidently : King Edvvard the sixt and his subiects held that Christ his soule never vvent to Gehenna : and the realme knovveth the Qu. oath , as also the Qu. aduentureth her eternall state . These be not states to come vvithin his vncleane mouth . He may doe vvell to remēber vvho they be of vvhom it is vvritten ▪ They despise gouernement : and speake ill of them that be in authority , as raging vvaues of the sea , foaming out theyr ovvne shame . Thus the vvise Doctour , & right reuerend father blasphemeth God & the King : rauing against that vvhich he himself proueth true , by all strength that scripture and God hath . But the right reuerend father is not con●ent vvith all this madnes , to betray D. VVh . and D. Bancroft ▪ and to proue his aduersaries cause , by scripture and Princes consent , and to raue against all : but he vvill haue all Graecianes that euer haue bene to hold him vvitlesse . That our Lord should goe from Paradise to Hades . So he hath gone from vvinchester to England . Graecians vvould tel him he might as vvel say the one as the other . VVher Hades is generall : and by circumstances of difference is sometime heauē , sometime Hell. And yf he care not for prophane Graecians oratours and Philosophers , from vvhom a Greeke oration vvas printed at Francfurt against him , and an other at Hannavv , Greeke Diuines shall as generally damne him : as voyd of faith herein , none of them euer beleeved that any soule vvent from Paradise to Hades , or yet to Gehenna . But the extremity of his errour for vvhich all Christēdome should reproue him standeth in these vvordes , for the meaning of the Creede . They shal be vvritten in gteat letters that one rūning by may read vvhat fabulous Diuinity D. Bilson bringeth , for the chief sentence of all our saluation , and rebelling against the most clear light of our hope , Fol. 154. of his Sermon book thus he dreameth . THE SENSE OF THE CREDE MAY AND MVST BE THAT CHRIST AFTER HIS BODY VVAS BVRIED IN SOVLE DESCENDED TO THAT PLACE VVHICH THE SCRIPTVRE PROPERLY CALLETH HADES HEL . These vvodes are past deniall : vvhyle his copies continue : and I meane to help him vvith some thousādes moo : that if he vvill needes vvin the spurres the rovvelles may stick in his side . Yf Paganes , Machmadistes , and Ievves should heare D. Bilsō make a sermon vvith these vvordes before D. Bancrofts G. vvith his approbation , they vvould & vvell might say , that the foolishest of all Homers fables had as good Christianity , as his G. that suffred this to be printed , and the others Lp. that no more honored the Lord , that ( as vve say ) bought him vvith his most precious blood . No Christian euer thought that a mans soule vvent not to Hades till his body vvas buryed , nor any in Homers Fables being avvaked : only Achilles in a dreame of his knight Patrocles kild by Hector , thus hard Patrocles soule complaine , that the body being vnburied it could not goe to Hades . Iliad 23. Slepest Achilles ; thou hast forgotten me : thou neuer diddest so while I liued : only since I died . Bury me quicly , that I may passe the gates of Hades . The soules the formes of the dead keepe me alouff : and suffer me not to passeouer the Ocean : but I wander fondly by the soule of broadga●ed Hades . Thus the right reuerend father may see , that his Lp. hath no fellovv for Diuinity but his abettours , and Achilles dreames . The burgesses of the Parlement are very patient that lent him the title and revenues of a Lord after this Patroclean Divinity . He that spake and the vvorld vvas made , vvill send him to Hell for ever & euer : or teach him to reuerence better these vvordes Eb. 9. vvhen Christ came an high sacrificer of the good to come , by a greater & more perfect tabernacle not made vvith handes , I meane , not of this building , nor by the blood of goatbuckes and oxen , but by his ovvne blood he vvent once for all into the sanctuarie , having found eternall redemptiō . These vvordes shall make him cōfesse , not only so far as he hath cōfession made , that our Lord his most holy soule vvent hence to Paradise to the hand of God , to the sanctuarie , to the third heaven : but also , that our redemption vvas then founde : and no addition must be ioyned thervnto . And this tendeth to the same purpose , folovving ther : that Christ by his eternall spirit offred him self in his blood vvithout blemish vnto God : that death being performed the called may inioy the promese of eternall redemption . As Aharons sonnes adding to theyr office vvere kild for strange fyre : so D. Bilson for his dreame , that our Lord vvent not to God till the body vvas buried , ( by all Greekes to Cateltheineis Hadou is to goe hence to God , for 3000. yeres vse ) should think that he must goe into a fyre vvhich he hath kindled . These vvordes tell the same that S. Paul afore told . For abolishing of sin by sacrificing of himself he appeared before God. All sage knovv that from the body immediatly vpon these vvordes the soule vvas to appeare before God : and to rest in that payment . And I think neuer any that toke Hades in the Creede for the place that receaved our Lords soule , tooke it for anie other then that vvhich receaued it leauing this vvorld . And D. Bilson vvilbe the first and the last of all not follovving Homerique and Ievves fables , and heathen in Plato and Phlegon and such that sayd , the soule vvent not to Hades till the Body vvas buryed . This also might break the hart of D. Bilson , yf he regarded the only reverend father , the Lord , the great , and the fearfull : Eb. 10. By Gods vvill vve are sanctified : vvhich stay vpon the offring of the body of Iesus Christ , once for all . And again : cap. 10. Having therfore brethren confidence for entrance into the sanctuary by the blood of Iesus , the vvay vvhich he dedicated holy and liuely by the veile , that is his flesh , & an high sacrificer ouer the house of God , let vs come vvith a right hart and fulnes of faith . &c. S● . Paul & the Ievves to vvhom he vvrot knevv that as the high sacrificer might not goe from the inner tabernacle to Gehenna , before he returned to the tabernacle of this vvorld : So our Lord might not goe from heauen to Gehenna : nor at all any more to Gehenna , then the high sacrificer might cary the holy blood thither . But D. Bilson vvilbe vviser then Moses and the Prophets : and of further reach then the Evangelistes : and more practique then all the Apostles : and Greeker then Prince Theophilus and all the Asiarchae , for vvhom S. Luke vvrote : and as good a dreamer , vvhen he should not slepe , as Homers Achilles . And thus all his actes may be set in one vievv . He tooke in hand to defēd D D. VVh . and B. G G. That our Lord vvent hence to Hell. Then he betrayeth : and bringeth all the auctority of Scripture against them : only vvith svvelling Titanean fables vvhat he can chalenge , and verbis sesquipedalibus he maketh the vvisemen fond . Secondly , he fleeth to his adversary and carieth the victory to him from God , from K. E. and from Qu. E. and from K. I. and from the right honorable the B. of . W. that is from his ovvne soule and from all the Phalanx of theyr army . After this , to make stationers beleve he had not betrayd Cant : and London : he rageth against him self : and against God and the Princes and theyr faithfull , pretending to rage only against one of that consort : hoping fooles vvould not see , hovv raving against one he blasphemeth all that be of that mynd . Yet all that have their eies in theyr head must see and say : that D. Bilson blasphemeth God , the Princes , and the B. of VVinchester . Though the King see him not , he that hath his eyes like a flame of fyer vvill teach him as Alexand. the coppersmith , not to blaspheme . Then he betrayeth also all that euer spake Greeke : that our Lord should goe from Paradise to Hades . So all Diuines of euery vving , Gentils and Ievves vvill marveyl at going from Paradise to Gehenna . So he betrayeth all Philosophers , vvho thought all soules vvent presently hence to Hades , to God : to a state vnchangeable . Plat. Leg. 12. after all this he passeth all vvaking fablers , that a soule should not goe to Hades till the body vvas buryed : that all men should presētly bury their dead . Thus he dreameth that all men & God him self should be mocked . And his headstrong dulnes vvill nedes have Hades to be Hell , thouh his ovvne auctour Andreas in Ap. 20. say : Hades is the place that receaveth our soules . And Suidas say : To descēd is to leave this vvorld . So the Bible for Divinity , the Thalmudiques for Ebrevv , Greeke oratours Philosophers and Divines for Greeke : his ovvne side betrayd the other side made victours by him , and confirmed , all loguiques that ever vvrote , all comon vvit for soules passages all these are nothing vvith D. Bilson : as though he vvere a Samson vnpolled & all against him had but Palastean bandes ▪ neither doeth he see vvhat house he vvould pull dovvne to dash out all his vvittes . And this much for the right reuerend fathers crossing of my doctrine for the Kingdome of heaven , & his passage hence to Heavens : by Eb. 9. to Hades , by the Crede . Also for Christ his kingdome on eart● I shevved hovv of Nathan Dauids sonne Ioseph vvas King of the Ievves by right : and Mary Nathans daughter . And that Salomons house vvas vtterly extinct in Iechonias . This D. Bilson crosseth , vvhom to reproue I printed in Ebrvv & english Dauids familie . So I hope all i● defended : and I feare no blamer . Your graces most humble Hugh Broughton . Notes, typically marginal, from the original text Notes for div A16999-e70 In Photij ●io . ●otheca . The 〈…〉 . in Euang .