A Copy of a remonstrance lately delivered in to the assembly by Thomas Goodwin, Ierem. Burroughs, William Greenhill, William Bridge, Philip Nie, Sidrach Simson, and William Carter declaring the grounds and reasons of their declining to bring into the assembly their modell of church-government.
      
       
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             A Copy of a remonstrance lately delivered in to the assembly by Thomas Goodwin, Ierem. Burroughs, William Greenhill, William Bridge, Philip Nie, Sidrach Simson, and William Carter declaring the grounds and reasons of their declining to bring into the assembly their modell of church-government.
             Goodwin, Thomas, 1600-1680.
             Burroughs, Jeremiah, 1599-1646.
             Greenhill, William, 1591-1671.
             Bridge, William, 1600?-1670.
             Nye, Philip, 1596?-1672.
             Simpson, Sidrach, 1600?-1655.
             Carter, W. (William)
          
           8 p.
           
             [s.n.],
             London :
             1645.
          
           
             Reproduction of original in the University of Illinois (Urbana-Champaign Campus). Library.
          
        
      
    
     
       
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           Church polity.
        
      
    
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           A
           COPY
           OF
           A
           Remonstrance
           LATELY
           DELIVERED
           IN
           TO
           THE
           
             ASSEMBLY
             .
          
           BY
           
             
               Thomas
               Goodwin
               .
            
             
               Ierem
               :
               Burroughs
               .
            
             
               William
               Greenhill
               .
            
             
               William
               Bridge
               .
            
             
               Philip
               Nie
               .
            
             
               Sidrach
               Simson
               .
            
             
               
                 and
              
               William
               Carter
               .
            
          
           Declaring
           the
           Grounds
           and
           Reasons
           of
           their
           declining
           to
           bring
           in
           to
           the
           
             Assembly
             ,
          
           their
           Modell
           of
           
             Church-Government
             .
          
        
         
           
             LONDON
             :
          
           Printed
           in
           the
           Yeer
           ,
           1645.
           
        
      
       
       
         
           To
           the
           READER
           .
        
         
           THe
           Copie
           of
           this
           ensuing
           
             Remonstrance
          
           (
           for
           so
           I
           title
           it
           ,
           as
           deeming
           it
           no
           other
           )
           lately
           delivered
           in
           to
           the
           Assembly
           by
           the
           
             Dissenting
             Brethren
             ,
          
           falling
           under
           my
           view
           (
           by
           a
           divine
           providence
           )
           I
           endeavoured
           a
           transcript
           thereof
           ,
           ayming
           at
           no
           other
           end
           but
           the
           reserving
           it
           by
           me
           for
           my
           private
           and
           particular
           satisfaction
           .
           Since
           which
           time
           upon
           occasionall
           converses
           with
           divers
           of
           the
           Presbyterian
           party
           ,
           I
           have
           been
           an
           often
           eare-witnesse
           of
           many
           untrue
           and
           unjust
           aspersions
           which
           reflected
           upon
           the
           Reverend
           Authors
           ,
           as
           if
           the
           
             Independants
          
           (
           so
           they
           are
           pleased
           to
           call
           them
           )
           could
           not
           ,
           or
           durst
           not
           (
           according
           to
           the
           demand
           of
           the
           Assembly
           )
           produce
           a
           
             Model
          
           and
           bring
           in
           thither
           ,
           such
           a
           Frame
           of
           Church-government
           with
           the
           Reasons
           and
           grounds
           thereof
           as
           they
           contend
           for
           ;
           or
           rather
           ,
           that
           they
           had
           in
           their
           conceptions
           some
           
             Chima●ra
             ,
          
           or
           some
           
             Utopian
          
           Frame
           ,
           which
           in
           the
           issue
           would
           prove
           either
           abortive
           or
           ridiculous
           ;
           and
           that
           therefore
           being
           privy
           to
           the
           weaknes
           of
           their
           own
           principles
           ,
           they
           have
           res●●ted
           onely
           ,
           instead
           of
           a
           
             perfect
             Body
             ,
          
           an
           airy
           ,
           and
           (
           to
           use
           some
           of
           their
           own
           words
           )
           a
           rayling
           accusation
           against
           the
           Reverend
           Assembly
           ,
           intending
           nothing
           lesse
           then
           the
           product
           of
           a
           
             Compleated
             Frame
             ,
          
           and
           nothing
           more
           than
           the
           cheating
           of
           the
           people
           ,
           whom
           they
           know
           do
           expect
           such
           an
           
             accomplisht
             platform
             .
          
           These
           and
           the
           like
           undue
           bespatterings
           ,
           ●asht
           from
           the
           mouthes
           of
           some
           whom
           I
           dare
           not
           but
           call
           Brethren
           ,
           and
           that
           upon
           those
           who
           for
           their
           personall
           endowments
           they
           themselves
           acknowledge
           to
           be
           both
           pious
           and
           learned
           ;
           and
           frequently
           hinted
           into
           the
           minds
           and
           thoughts
           of
           the
           godly
           and
           well-affected
           of
           either
           part
           
           (
           who
           at
           present
           by
           reason
           thereof
           are
           at
           a
           losse
           both
           in
           their
           judgements
           and
           expectations
           )
           coming
           within
           my
           hearing
           and
           observation
           ;
           I
           found
           (
           weighing
           the
           rationall
           considerations
           exhibited
           in
           this
           
             Remonstrance
          
           for
           their
           refusall
           to
           deliver
           in
           to
           the
           Assembly
           their
           
             Model
          
           of
           Church-government
           ,
           as
           was
           imposed
           on
           them
           )
           an
           irresistable
           dictate
           from
           my
           conscience
           ,
           to
           convert
           the
           Manuscript
           into
           a
           printed
           Copie
           .
           Wherein
           the
           ingenious
           Reader
           may
           clearly
           perceive
           ,
           and
           truly
           judge
           what
           was
           the
           direct
           
             Remora
          
           that
           deterred
           them
           (
           contrary
           to
           their
           primary
           resolves
           )
           from
           doing
           that
           which
           was
           required
           by
           the
           Assembly
           ,
           and
           what
           likewise
           are
           their
           reall
           intentions
           for
           the
           future
           ,
           namely
           ,
           to
           let
           the
           Churches
           have
           the
           benefit
           of
           what
           they
           have
           prepared
           to
           that
           purpose
           ,
           which
           I
           am
           confident
           in
           as
           convenient
           a
           time
           as
           is
           sutable
           to
           such
           a
           work
           ,
           they
           will
           perfect
           and
           exhibit
           to
           open
           view
           .
           As
           for
           the
           godly
           and
           learned
           Authors
           themselves
           ,
           I
           humbly
           crave
           their
           pardon
           that
           I
           have
           presumed
           without
           their
           knowledge
           to
           present
           this
           their
           Copie
           to
           the
           world
           ,
           professing
           that
           no
           sinister
           ends
           at
           all
           byassed
           me
           :
           'T
           was
           onely
           the
           satisfying
           of
           my
           own
           Conscience
           ,
           and
           my
           earnest
           desires
           that
           the
           truth
           and
           candour
           of
           their
           cause
           ,
           and
           their
           proceedings
           therein
           ,
           may
           (
           notwithstanding
           the
           besmearings
           that
           others
           endeavour
           to
           cast
           on
           both
           )
           be
           rightly
           resented
           by
           the
           godly
           and
           judicious
           ,
           that
           hath
           swayed
           my
           resolutions
           :
           which
           ends
           if
           I
           attain
           ,
           I
           have
           enough
           .
        
      
    
     
       
       
         
           
             December
             12.
             1644.
             
          
           We
           gave
           in
           Reasons
           of
           our
           dissenting
           ,
           to
           this
           Assembly
           ,
           against
           the
           subordination
           of
           Synods
           ,
           and
           they
           were
           committed
           to
           be
           answered
           and
           brought
           in
           .
        
         
           
             April
             4.
             1645.
             
          
           An
           Order
           was
           made
           by
           this
           Assembly
           ,
           that
           the
           Brethren
           of
           this
           Assembly
           ,
           who
           have
           formerly
           entred
           their
           dissents
           to
           the
           Presbyteriall
           Government
           ,
           shall
           be
           a
           Committee
           to
           bring
           in
           the
           whole
           Frame
           of
           their
           Judgements
           ,
           concerning
           Church
           Government
           ,
           in
           a
           body
           with
           their
           grounds
           and
           Reasons
           .
        
         
           It
           was
           also
           by
           this
           Assembly
           ,
           lately
           imposed
           on
           us
           ,
           to
           make
           report
           of
           what
           we
           had
           done
           in
           the
           Committee
           .
        
         
           HOw
           willing
           and
           ready
           we
           have
           been
           from
           the
           beginning
           of
           the
           Discussions
           in
           this
           Reverend
           Assembly
           ,
           to
           make
           known
           whatever
           we
           hold
           ,
           concerning
           
             Church
             government
             ,
          
           as
           we
           have
           had
           publique
           testimony
           in
           this
           Assembly
           ,
           so
           we
           have
           manifold
           instances
           and
           evidences
           of
           it
           ;
           Witnesse
           that
           constant
           ,
           free
           ,
           and
           open
           expressing
           our selves
           upon
           all
           occasions
           ,
           and
           in
           all
           questions
           propounded
           to
           the
           debate
           ,
           with
           offers
           to
           give
           an
           open
           Account
           at
           any
           time
           ,
           in
           what
           ever
           should
           be
           asked
           us
           by
           any
           Brother
           .
           Our
           profferring
           divers
           times
           to
           bring
           in
           Propositions
           ,
           stated
           to
           our
           sense
           for
           the
           dispute
           ,
           and
           when
           we
           were
           made
           a
           Committee
           to
           that
           purpose
           ,
           in
           the
           point
           of
           
             Ordination
             ,
          
           and
           did
           bring
           our
           Judgements
           concerning
           it
           for
           a
           dispute
           ,
           It
           was
           laid
           aside
           .
           And
           at
           another
           time
           ,
           when
           we
           ourselves
           brought
           in
           papers
           ,
           giving
           the
           state
           of
           the
           question
           ,
           about
           that
           
             extraordinary
             way
             of
             Ordination
             ,
          
           which
           were
           read
           ,
           and
           returned
           back
           unto
           us
           ,
           it
           being
           publiquely
           professed
           that
           
             that
             was
             not
             an
             allowed
             way
             and
             course
             of
             this
             Assembly
             ,
             for
             any
             of
             the
             Brethren
             to
             bring
             in
             papers
             ,
             unlesse
             they
             were
             made
             a
             Committee
             by
             the
             Assembly
             it self
             .
          
           And
           so
           we
           were
           prevented
           of
           doing
           the
           like
           for
           time
           to
           come
           .
        
         
           Likewise
           our
           frequent
           complainings
           of
           the
           stating
           of
           questions
           ,
           so
           that
           we
           could
           not
           fully
           argue
           for
           our
           Judgements
           ,
           we
           being
           bound
           up
           to
           the
           questions
           as
           stated
           by
           you
           .
           The
           usuall
           answer
           to
           our
           Complaints
           heerin
           being
           ,
           
             That
             the
             Assembly
             sate
             not
             to
             argue
             the
             
             opinions
             of
             a
             few
             men
             ,
             but
             that
             if
             we
             had
             any
             thing
             to
             say
             to
             the
             assertion
             brought
             in
             ,
             we
             might
             .
          
        
         
           As
           also
           our
           earnest
           contending
           to
           have
           some
           questions
           (
           
             which
             you
             all
             know
             are
             the
             greatest
             and
             most
             fundamentall
             points
          
           )
           fairly
           disputed
           and
           debated
           ,
           is
           a
           sufficient
           testimony
           of
           this
           our
           willingnesse
           .
           As
           in
           the
           entrance
           into
           the
           dispute
           of
           
             Government
             ,
          
           the
           first
           day
           ,
           we
           pressed
           the
           handling
           of
           this
           ,
           
             That
             there
             is
             a
             platform
             of
             Government
             for
             the
             Churches
             ,
             under
             the
             Gospel
             ,
             laid
             down
             in
             the
             Scripture
             ,
          
           and
           desired
           to
           have
           discussed
           ,
           
             what
             are
             the
             sure
             and
             certain
             wayes
             ,
             whereby
             we
             may
             judge
             what
             of
             Government
             ,
             is
             held
             forth
          
           Jure
           divino
           
             therein
             ,
          
           which
           should
           have
           been
           fundamentall
           to
           all
           the
           disputes
           that
           were
           to
           follow
           :
           and
           this
           was
           professedly
           laid
           aside
           by
           you
           ,
           which
           therfore
           in
           none
           of
           the
           subsequent
           debates
           ,
           we
           could
           renew
           ,
           and
           thus
           Arguments
           were
           cut
           off
           ,
           It
           being
           that
           great
           and
           necessary
           
             Medium
             ,
          
           by
           which
           the
           particulars
           should
           be
           confirmed
           ,
           and
           in
           a
           manner
           ,
           the
           whole
           controversie
           decided
           ;
           the
           greatest
           difference
           that
           were
           likely
           to
           grow
           betwixt
           us
           ,
           being
           this
           ,
           
             That
             the
             forms
             of
             Government
             ,
             you
             pretend
             to
             ,
             and
             we
             deny
             ,
             are
             asserted
             to
             be
          
           Jure
           divino
           .
        
         
           In
           like
           manner
           that
           other
           next
           great
           question
           ,
           about
           
             the
             intire
             power
             in
             Congregations
             ,
             that
             have
             a
             sufficient
             Presbytery
             for
             all
             Censures
             ,
          
           which
           as
           it
           is
           in
           order
           the
           first
           that
           presents
           it self
           for
           discussion
           (
           as
           was
           urged
           )
           so
           also
           it
           is
           one
           of
           the
           greatest
           points
           in
           difference
           betwixt
           us
           and
           you
           :
           Yet
           the
           debate
           of
           this
           was
           not
           onely
           denied
           the
           first
           place
           in
           the
           dispute
           ,
           but
           was
           to
           this
           day
           declined
           by
           you
           ;
           Although
           to
           have
           it
           argued
           was
           contended
           for
           by
           us
           ,
           and
           not
           by
           us
           onely
           ,
           but
           by
           many
           of
           those
           ,
           that
           are
           for
           a
           subordinate
           government
           thereof
           to
           Synods
           .
           And
           though
           earnest
           desires
           and
           motions
           for
           it
           were
           renewed
           and
           inculcated
           ,
           yet
           were
           they
           as
           often
           laid
           aside
           .
           Yea
           and
           this
           ,
           although
           it
           was
           once
           expresly
           commended
           by
           the
           grand
           Committee
           of
           the
           Honorable
           Members
           of
           both
           Houses
           ,
           joyned
           with
           twelve
           Divines
           of
           the
           Assembly
           ,
           to
           be
           next
           disputed
           ,
           as
           the
           best
           means
           ,
           both
           of
           expedition
           ,
           and
           of
           ending
           the
           Controversie
           .
        
         
           And
           over
           and
           above
           all
           this
           ,
           to
           argue
           this
           our
           willingnesse
           to
           dispute
           our
           way
           ,
           In
           the
           aforesaid
           Honorable
           Committee
           appointed
           by
           an
           Order
           of
           the
           Honorable
           House
           of
           
             Commons
             ,
          
           to
           find
           out
           wayes
           ,
           of
           accommodating
           different
           Judgements
           in
           the
           Assembly
           ,
           the
           Sub-Committee
           of
           Divines
           ,
           consisting
           of
           two
           of
           us
           ,
           and
           foure
           
           others
           ,
           appointed
           by
           that
           Honorable
           Committee
           to
           prepare
           waies
           and
           Propositions
           of
           Accommodation
           ,
           brought
           in
           the
           main
           and
           most
           of
           what
           practically
           we
           desired
           ,
           and
           we
           therein
           added
           ,
           
             That
             if
             such
             a
             libertie
             shall
             seem
             in
             the
             wisdome
             of
             this
             Honorable
             Committee
             ,
             to
             be
             so
             prejudiciall
             to
             the
             peace
             of
             the
             Church
             as
             not
             to
             be
             permitted
             ,
             we
             humbly
             desire
             ,
             the
             doctrinall
             principles
             wherein
             we
             differ
             about
             Church-Government
             ,
             may
             be
             taken
             into
             serious
             consideration
             ,
             and
             some
             other
             way
             of
             accommodation
             in
             practise
             thought
             upon
             ,
             as
             shall
             seem
             fit
             to
             this
             Honorable
             Committee
             :
          
           and
           this
           was
           presented
           to
           that
           Honorable
           Committee
           and
           those
           twelve
           of
           the
           Assembly
           ,
           to
           be
           transmitted
           ,
           whether
           to
           the
           Honorable
           Houses
           ,
           or
           the
           Assembly
           as
           they
           should
           think
           meet
           .
        
         
           After
           this
           ,
           when
           upon
           occasion
           of
           something
           brought
           in
           by
           one
           Brother
           ,
           and
           intertained
           ,
           we
           took
           hold
           of
           that
           example
           ,
           and
           one
           of
           us
           ,
           with
           consent
           of
           the
           rest
           ,
           brought
           in
           seven
           Propositions
           ,
           which
           contained
           matter
           of
           difference
           betwixt
           us
           ,
           professing
           ,
           
             That
             if
             this
             Reverend
             Assembly
             would
             debate
             them
             ,
             or
             any
             one
             of
             them
             ,
             we
             would
             bring
             in
             more
             ,
             untill
             we
             had
             brought
             in
             all
             the
             Frame
             ,
             and
             the
             Assembly
             themselves
             should
             pick
             and
             chuse
             what
             they
             would
             debate
             ,
             and
             what
             not
             .
          
           But
           these
           Propositions
           were
           rejected
           with
           a
           refusall
           to
           debate
           any
           one
           of
           them
           .
        
         
           And
           after
           all
           this
           ,
           though
           the
           main
           parts
           of
           the
           Presbyteriall
           government
           ,
           had
           been
           then
           voted
           by
           the
           Assembly
           ,
           and
           sent
           up
           to
           the
           Honorable
           Houses
           (
           as
           ,
           namely
           ,
           that
           about
           
             Ordination
             ,
          
           and
           
             the
             Presbyteriall
             government
             over
             many
             Congregations
             ,
          
           as
           also
           concerning
           
             the
             Subordination
             of
             Nationall
             ,
             Provinciall
             and
             Classicall
             Assemblies
          
           )
           and
           there
           was
           not
           much
           remaining
           about
           Church-government
           ,
           to
           be
           concluded
           in
           this
           Assembly
           :
           yet
           this
           Reverend
           Assembly
           requiring
           ,
           (
           by
           occasion
           of
           a
           book
           published
           ,
           that
           reflected
           on
           these
           proceedings
           ,
           that
           we
           had
           no
           hand
           in
           ,
           nor
           knowledge
           of
           )
           
             a
             whole
             Frame
             of
             Government
             ,
             with
             the
             grounds
             and
             reasons
             thereof
             ,
             to
             be
             brought
             in
             by
             us
             ,
          
           and
           voted
           us
           heerto
           to
           be
           a
           Committee
           ,
           we
           yeilded
           our selves
           to
           be
           a
           Committee
           ,
           to
           bring
           in
           part
           by
           part
           ,
           in
           like
           manner
           as
           the
           Presbyteriall
           Government
           was
           brought
           into
           the
           Assembly
           ,
           and
           disputed
           :
           but
           that
           was
           not
           accepted
           .
           And
           then
           it
           being
           said
           ,
           that
           there
           was
           something
           in
           Church-government
           ,
           remaining
           undiscussed
           ,
           and
           unresolved
           ;
           and
           it
           being
           further
           alledged
           that
           the
           Assembly
           ●ad
           not
           sent
           up
           all
           that
           which
           they
           had
           concluded
           ,
           but
           meant
           to
           present
           an
           entire
           Frame
           and
           Body
           to
           the
           Honorable
           
           Houses
           :
           And
           that
           we
           might
           take
           away
           all
           occasions
           of
           any
           such
           jealousies
           that
           we
           were
           unwilling
           to
           discover
           what
           we
           held
           (
           which
           were
           commonly
           in
           mens
           mouthes
           abroad
           )
           we
           yeilded
           to
           be
           a
           Committee
           ,
           to
           bring
           in
           the
           whole
           to
           this
           Assembly
           ,
           though
           upon
           all
           the
           fore-mentioned
           disadvantages
           ,
           and
           were
           purposed
           and
           resolved
           amongst
           our selves
           so
           to
           do
           ,
           and
           that
           in
           as
           convenient
           a
           time
           as
           a
           work
           of
           such
           a
           compasse
           could
           ,
           (
           in
           such
           a
           manner
           as
           was
           proposed
           by
           you
           )
           be
           dispatched
           by
           us
           .
           And
           as
           in
           the
           debate
           about
           making
           us
           a
           Committee
           ,
           the
           Assembly
           would
           not
           declare
           (
           though
           pressed
           by
           us
           )
           what
           they
           would
           do
           with
           that
           Modell
           ,
           and
           those
           Reasons
           we
           should
           bring
           in
           ;
           so
           the
           voting
           of
           what
           yet
           remained
           in
           
             Church-government
             ,
          
           was
           hastened
           by
           you
           .
        
         
           And
           when
           not
           long
           after
           ,
           upon
           occasion
           of
           the
           debate
           of
           one
           particular
           point
           ,
           in
           which
           we
           differed
           from
           this
           Assembly
           ,
           we
           moved
           it
           might
           be
           deferred
           ,
           because
           we
           should
           present
           our
           Judgements
           and
           Reasons
           about
           it
           ,
           with
           the
           rest
           ,
           (
           for
           therein
           lay
           that
           which
           we
           accounted
           the
           favour
           of
           being
           made
           a
           Committee
           by
           you
           )
           it
           was
           publiquely
           answered
           ,
           
             that
             therefore
             the
             Assembly
             should
             the
             rather
             go
             on
             to
             the
             concluding
             of
             it
             ,
             because
             we
             intended
             to
             bring
             it
             in
             ;
          
           and
           before
           we
           could
           dispatch
           that
           
             Body
          
           we
           intended
           ,
           so
           as
           to
           report
           it
           unto
           you
           according
           to
           your
           order
           ;
           (
           the
           collection
           of
           the
           materials
           whereof
           ,
           spent
           us
           two
           or
           three
           moneths
           ,
           and
           we
           could
           not
           obtain
           the
           liberty
           to
           bring
           in
           any
           thing
           but
           the
           whole
           )
           this
           Assembly
           had
           presented
           to
           the
           Honorable
           Houses
           ,
           as
           well
           what
           had
           been
           sent
           up
           by
           peeces
           afore
           ,
           as
           what
           was
           since
           concluded
           ,
           in
           one
           intire
           Frame
           .
           By
           all
           which
           we
           perceived
           ,
           that
           that
           which
           was
           the
           main
           end
           and
           use
           of
           presenting
           such
           a
           Modell
           to
           this
           Assembly
           ,
           would
           be
           frustrated
           .
        
         
           And
           furthermore
           ,
           we
           having
           given
           in
           (
           as
           this
           Assembly
           knows
           )
           but
           
             two
             heads
             of
             dissenting
             reasons
             :
          
           The
           one
           against
           
             the
             Presbyterial
             government
             over
             many
             Congregations
             :
          
           The
           other
           against
           
             the
             subordination
             of
             Synods
             .
          
           By
           the
           successe
           of
           the
           latter
           we
           see
           ,
           that
           this
           Assembly
           can
           assume
           the
           liberty
           (
           if
           it
           so
           please
           )
           to
           reserve
           those
           we
           shall
           now
           present
           ,
           unanswered
           ,
           as
           they
           have
           done
           those
           our
           dissenting
           Reasons
           against
           subordination
           of
           Synods
           ,
           
             although
             it
             contain
             a
             great
             and
             main
             part
             of
             that
             wherein
             we
             differ
             ,
             as
             also
             is
             of
             all
             other
             ,
             of
             the
             greatest
             moment
             ,
             both
             to
             this
             Church
             and
             State
             ,
          
           and
           hath
           been
           given
           in
           to
           this
           Assembly
           ten
           moneths
           since
           ,
           and
           their
           votes
           concerning
           thes●
           
           Subordinations
           ,
           as
           long
           since
           presented
           to
           the
           Honorable
           Houses
           ,
           but
           have
           not
           been
           answered
           by
           any
           reply
           brought
           in
           to
           this
           Assembly
           ,
           and
           so
           not
           ready
           to
           have
           been
           sent
           up
           to
           the
           Honorable
           Houses
           .
        
         
           And
           if
           These
           we
           might
           now
           bring
           in
           ,
           should
           be
           undertaken
           to
           be
           answered
           by
           this
           Assembly
           ,
           yet
           we
           still
           retain
           the
           sense
           of
           so
           much
           remedilesse
           prejudice
           ,
           
             by
             being
             bound
             from
             replying
             again
             ,
          
           as
           doth
           make
           us
           justly
           wary
           :
           we
           may
           for
           ever
           lie
           under
           whatever
           misinterpretations
           may
           happen
           ,
           (
           suppose
           but
           through
           mistake
           of
           yours
           ,
           or
           imperfection
           of
           our
           expression
           )
           without
           clearing
           our
           meaning
           ,
           and
           we
           may
           be
           bound
           up
           from
           further
           urging
           or
           driving
           home
           that
           wherein
           the
           strength
           of
           any
           Argument
           lies
           ,
           if
           the
           dint
           thereof
           should
           be
           avoided
           by
           some
           specious
           diversion
           .
           And
           although
           our
           former
           Reasons
           given
           in
           after
           dispute
           to
           both
           the
           Honorable
           Houses
           ,
           according
           to
           their
           Order
           ,
           were
           therefore
           not
           our
           own
           ,
           but
           to
           be
           disposed
           of
           according
           to
           their
           appointment
           ;
           yet
           what
           we
           should
           now
           give
           in
           ,
           we
           conceive
           to
           be
           in
           our
           own
           power
           .
        
         
           Upon
           these
           considerations
           we
           think
           that
           this
           Assembly
           hath
           no
           cause
           now
           to
           require
           a
           
             Report
          
           of
           us
           ,
           nor
           will
           that
           our
           
             Report
          
           be
           of
           any
           use
           ,
           seeing
           that
           
             Reports
          
           are
           for
           
             Debates
             ,
          
           and
           
             Debates
          
           are
           for
           
             Results
          
           to
           be
           sent
           up
           to
           the
           Honorable
           Houses
           ,
           
             who
             have
             already
             voted
             another
             form
             of
             Government
             then
             what
             we
             shall
             present
             .
          
           However
           it
           may
           be
           of
           more
           use
           some
           other
           way
           ,
           which
           by
           this
           course
           may
           be
           prevented
           ,
           And
           therefore
           we
           are
           resolved
           to
           wait
           for
           some
           further
           opportunitie
           ,
           to
           improve
           what
           we
           have
           prepared
           .
        
         
           FINIS
           .