Laying on of hands asserted: or, A plain discovery of the truth thereof under those several considerations, minded in the New Testament. 1. Upon persons for healing: with a brief discovery of that ordinance of Christ, (to wit) anointing with oile. 2. Upon persons to office. 3. Upon believers, baptized, as such: and that principle of Christs doctrine cleared, for their obedience: with objections answered to each particular. To which is annexed, a confutation of four chapters written by some person, or persons, in opposition to this principle of the doctrine of Christ, (to wit) laying on of hands upon believers baptized, as such; wherein the weakness of their reasons against the truth, is plainly discovered, and the truth further asserted, and vindicated. By VVilliam Rider, servant to the Church of Christ. Rider, William, fl. 1656. This text is an enriched version of the TCP digital transcription A57271 of text R217997 in the English Short Title Catalog (Wing R1444A). 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To which is annexed, a confutation of four chapters written by some person, or persons, in opposition to this principle of the doctrine of Christ, (to wit) laying on of hands upon believers baptized, as such; wherein the weakness of their reasons against the truth, is plainly discovered, and the truth further asserted, and vindicated. By VVilliam Rider, servant to the Church of Christ. Rider, William, fl. 1656. [14], 182, [2] p. Printed for the author, and are to be sold by R. Moon, at the seven Stars in Pauls-Church-yard, near the great North door, [London] : 1656. Place of publication from Wing. Errata on A8v. Caption title on p. 1 reads: A discovery of layings on of hands, according to the wisdom of God given under the several considerations thereof, minded in the New Testament. Caption title on p. 109 reads: An answer to a discourse containing 4 chapters in opposition to this principle of Christs doctrine, (to wit) laying on of hands upon believers, baptized, as such. Reproduction of the original in the British Library. eng Baptism -- Early works to 1800. Imposition of hands -- Early works to 1800. Rites and ceremonies -- Early works to 1800. A57271 R217997 (Wing R1444A). civilwar no Laying on of hands asserted: or, A plain discovery of the truth thereof, under those several considerations, minded in the New Testament. 1. Rider, William 1656 35613 6 0 0 0 0 0 2 B The rate of 2 defects per 10,000 words puts this text in the B category of texts with fewer than 10 defects per 10,000 words. 2000-00 TCP Assigned for keying and markup 2001-12 Aptara Keyed and coded from ProQuest page images 2002-01 TCP Staff (Michigan) Sampled and proofread 2002-01 TCP Staff (Michigan) Text and markup reviewed and edited 2002-02 pfs Batch review (QC) and XML conversion Layings on of Hands ASSERTED : Or , A plain discovery of the truth thereof , under those several considerations , minded in the New Testament . 1. Vpon persons for healing : with a Brief discovery of that Ordinance of Christ , ( to wit ) anointing with Oile . 2. Vpon persons to Office . 3. Vpon Believers Baptized , as such : and that principle of Christs Doctrine cleared , for their obedience : With Objections Answered to each particular . To which is annexed , A Confutation of four Chapters written by some person , or persons , in opposition to this principle of the Doctrine of Christ , ( to wit ) laying on of hands upon believers Baptized , as such ; wherein the weakness of their Reasons against the truth , is plainly discovered , and the truth further asserted , and vindicated . By WILLIAM RIDER , Servant to the Church of Christ . Printed for the Author , and are to be sold by R. Moon , at the seven Stars in Pauls-Church-yard , near the great North door . 1656. To all those in this Nation , or elsewhere , who upon the Profession of their faith have been Baptized in the Name of the Lord Jesus . MY BRETHREN , THough my Prayer unto God is , that what I have written , may tend to the establishing of those , who have already been obedient ; yet unto you I do chiefly recommend this following discourse : and my Reason is , Because it doth more principally concern you , it being a discovery of part of the minde of Christ ; yea , part of the foundation of his service , whereunto the greatest Number of you have not yet been obedient . And now , my Brethren , you that by Baptisme have declared your selves to be followers of the Lord Iesus Christ ; I do Begg and intreat of you , to Examine your principles , and see whether or no , you have obeyed Christ , according to the Commission he gave to his Disciples , Mat. 28. 20. Wherein you are injoyned the Observation of all things he commanded for your obedience , according to his Teaching ; being forty dayes with his Apostles and Disciples , ( after his Resurrection ) in which time he gave Commandments unto his Apostles , whom he had chosen , and was speaking unto them of the things pertaining to the Kingdome of God , Acts 1. 2 , 3. vers. I beseech you consider , have you obeyed the form of Doctrine , Rom. 6. 18. which you shall finde laid down , in Heb. 6. 1 , 2. See , I pray you , whether the beginning-Word of Christ is that you have received ; whether you stand upon that foundation , the Doctrine of Christ and his Apostles , upon which the first Churches were built , Ephes. 2. 20. Heb. 6. 1. Consider , God in these last dayes hath spoken unto us by his Son , Heb. 1. 2. the Lord Iesus Christ is our great Doctor , the Prophet whom Moses spake of , Acts 3. 21. therefore we must learn of him , we must hear him in all things ; Therefore know , it is your duty to be followers of God , according to your Profession in Baptisme , and to Act in no way , but what Christ hath appointed for you ; Even that way , whose foundation is upon the lips of Christ , which he also hath appointed a foundation for us to build upon . Wherefore examine if you have laid your foundation with this Corner-stone , with Repentance from dead works , faith towards God , the Doctrine of Baptismes , and laying on of hands , the Resurrection of the dead , and eternal Iudgement : Whether these be the principles of your Religion , Heb. 6. 1 , 2. Consider wherein you are defective in these principles : are you not in Repentance ? I wish I could not charge you herein ; yet I must tell you , the Hire of the Harlot is found amongst you , the burden of which your poor Brethren have long mourned under , and suffered for . I know it is not the practise of all of you ; yet those that do it , were never to this day disowned by you ? O! that you would therefore try your selves : have you turned your selves from the vain worships of the men of this World , and from such who teach for Doctrines mens traditions ? are you according to your Profession of Christ in Baptism , dead to the rudiments of this World ? Col. 2. 20. Why know , it is your duty , not only to cleanse your selves from Temporal , but Spiritual delfiements , 2 Cor. 7. 1. and as you are not to act any thing contrary to the Law of righteousness in your Conversation , so to do nothing in the worship of God , but by rule : for that which hath proceeded from our Lord Iesus Christ , is the rule for Saints to walk by . Know this , that all the misery and sin in the World came in at this door , viz. by hearkning to Reason , the wisdome of the flesh , against that which God hath spoken : it is mans deformity , to walk according to his own invention , and at last , ( as experience doth teach , ) will prove his own destruction . Surely God will not indure to be prescribed by his Creatures ; no , it hath been wickedness in those that have done it , and God hath found it out ; but he takes pleasure in them that fear him , and teaches them in his wayes , Psa. 25. 12. but when men change his Laws and Ordinances , ( although it proceeds from no wicked intent ) yet it provokes him to Iudgment , as it did in Uzza , 1 Chro. 15. therefore learn to know the voyce of Christ ; for his Sheep hear it , and they follow him . It hath been the work of Satan and his Instruments , such who first did forsake the right way , whom God gave up unto strong delusions to believe lyes , because they received not the truth in the love thereof , to corrupt the Word of God , and to change his Laws , and to set up their posts by the posts of God , or rather in their stead : and who knows not , that knows Christ , that now all his endeavours are to make voyd those truths , and the right way of the Lord ; either in whole or in part ? if he cannot keep people wholly in blindness , he will labour to insnare them through pretended wayes of light , which is indeed darkness . O! how doth he now perswade the poor soul , that either the wayes of God are not now to be practised , or else the practise of them is but an indifferent thing . O! let 's beware of this deceit : for he that saith I know him , and keepeth not his commandments , is a lyer , and the truth is not in him , 1 John 2. 4. therefore I desire you to examine your selves , and see wherein you are short of obeying the voice of Christ ; being careful of receiving any thing , but what is recorded the Word of the Lord ; and be also as careful of rejecting any thing that is his will . And wherein he speaks unto you , as you are Baptized believers , know , it is your duty to be obedient , to be followers of him , to set shoulders to his work ; for unto that this day you are called , that the foundation in Sion may again be laid , the Walls of Jerusalem may be again repaired , and then they that be of thee , shall build the old waste places , Isai. 58. 11. Let not the wisdome of man beguile you , ( whereby he labours , ) when any truth of God is discovered , to pervert it , or to turn you aside from following of it : know , this is but one of Satans old plots , and deceitful workings ; and marvel not that he works in good men in our dayes ; for this is certain , that if persons dissent from truth , so far they serve for his design , which is alwayes against the truth , which is the Law of God , that which God hath commanded : thus he wrought in the Prophet of the Lord , who told a lye in the Name of the Lord , unto which the young Prophet yeilded ; contrary to what God had Commanded him , 1 King. 13. 18 and was destroyed of a Lyon : know , he many times makes use of good men to carry on his design ; therefore though you may judge they are good men , that speak against a truth of the Lord ; let not that turn you aside , knowing it is your duty to be a follower of him , in what he hath spoken , that doth relate to the worship of God , or your duty in your conversation ; which doth concern you , as you are believers , and would be partakers of the promises , especially those things that are principles of your faith and Religion ; yea , principles of the worship and service of that God , whom we profess to fear ; yea , and to obey . And take heed of those who teach you , only to believe that , unto which you ought to manifest your obedience to the great God . Such persons , who call that which Christ taught , and whereunto believers were obedient , a Doctrine , but not a practise , such words are corrupt : but let us know this , that so far as Christ hath taught us , we ought to be obedient ; and therefore let your obedience be manifest to all men ; For the Lord is at hand to give recompence unto you : and let not the opposition which truth meets withal , be a stumbling-block unto you . You may see how easily confusion and errour take place upon the hearts of men , this day . O , let truth have place upon your Souls ! O , it grieves my Soul to see , how easily that which hath but a colour or shew of truth from the Scriptures , takes place upon the hearts of men , and many Professors this day ; and yet that which is real truth , hath little entertainment in the World . What 's the Reason ? was not this alwayes ; it 's too low , it 's too mean , it 's too plain ? it is indeed without the wisdome of man ; and therefore finds little entertainment amongst men . Alas , saith the Wiseman , what 's a little water ? this is a poor thing : others have as low an esteem of laying on of hands ; besides , it 's a riddle unto them : thus God makes foolishness the wisdome of this World . But now some do say , Did we see these Ordinances to continue , we should willingly obey . I Answer , Do you think the Scribes and Pharisees would not have made as large a Profession as this , when they rejected the Counsel of God against themselves , being not Baptized ? Luke 7. 30. or do you not think , that those who are short of any truth , if they profess any thing , but will as readily make this Objection as your selves ? yet will this excuse them ? or would the Iews ignorance of the Lord of life , excuse their Crucifying the Lord of Glory ? 1 Cor. 2. 8. surely no . Therefore know , it 's your duty to seek after truth , and to yeild obedience to it : Christ requires it of you ; therefore come in unto him , and be willing to take upon you his yoak , and despised wayes ; and be sure , you shall be no losers by it . Now the Lord help you , you that have put on Christ by Baptisme , to read what I have written in this book without prejudice , and with a heart lifted up to God for wisdome , to direct to give you to see truth from errour . And that this truth , which I do principally mind and drive at , ( to wit ) laying on of hands upon believers Baptized , as such , may have the Spirit of God , making of it forth unto your Souls , in the Reading and Consideration thereof ; that so you may be followers of God therein , is the Prayer of him , who is willing to serve you for truths sake : WILLIAM RIDER . ERRATA . Page 1. line 8. for the Spirit , read the Holy Spirit . p. 42. l. 13. for excuse , read enough . p. 46. l. 11. for their read then . p. 59. l. 3. for his read this . p. 100. l. 5. for praise , read prise . p. 112. l. 7. for would , read do . p. 147. l. 8. for do affirm , read we do affirm . p. 152. l. 14. for was enjoyned , read was there enjoyned . p. 159. l. 17. for I read you . A DISCOVERY Of Layings on of hands , according to the wisdom of God given under the several considerations thereof , minded in the New Testament . THE Scripture of the New Testament speaks of laying on of hands upon three several accounts or ends . First , upon Baptized believers , as such ; To the end they might receive the Spirit ; which is the promise of God unto them , as Acts the 8. and Acts 19. 2. On Ministers ; to the end they might be separated to the work of the Ministry , Acts 6. 6 , 13 , 3. 1 Tim. 4. 14 , 5. 22 vers. 3. On the sick , for healing ; to the end they might recover , as Mark 16. 18. Acts 28. 8 vers. I shall , as the Lord shall help me , speak somthing to the two last briefly , and then to the first I shall be more large , it being the duty of all believers to submit unto , and that which is chiefly in my eye in this discourse . First , of the laying on of hands for healing , it was a particular gift of faith , which the Lord Jesus did promise to give unto his people , as is plain from Mark 16. 17 , 18 vers. These signes shall follow them that believe ; in my Name they shall cast out Devils , they shall speak with new tongues ; they shall take up Serpents ; and if they drink any deadly thing , it shall not hurt them ; they shall lay hands on the sick , and they shall recover : in which enumeration of signs , we find laying on of hands for healing : which signs , as the Spirit of the Lord teacheth us , were given for those who believed not , 1 Cor. 14. 22 vers. But this promise of healing , by laying on of hands , as we may observe , the Lord made good upon many of his people , as believers in the Church of Corinth , who were partakers of this gift , which they were to go forth in the practise thereof ; according as the Apostle Paul did , Acts 28. 8 vers. yea as Christ himself , Mark . 6. 5 vers. Luk. 4. 40 vers. Object . But now some may say , Was this practise to continue amongst believers ? to which take this two-fold answer . First , If the gift be continued , that is , of healing , then this practise ; for we cannot Act , unless we have received . 2. If any have or shall receive such a gift of faith , they are to go forth in the practise thereof ; for gifts are given to profit withal , that is , for the good of others , 1 Cor. 12. 7 vers. therefore if any one have received such a gift , he is to be up and doing , to administer the same . Query . But some may say , Is there no Ordinance , that the Lord Jesus Christ hath left unto his people , to wait upon him in for healing , in the time of sickness ? Answer . Yes , and that is prayer and anoynting with Oile in the Name of the Lord ; this is left , as an Ordinance , or way unto believers , to wait upon the Lord in , in the time of sickness ; wherein the Elders of the Church of Christ ought to administer , as is manifest from Iam. 5. 14 , 15 vers. Is any sick amongst you ? let him call for the Elders of the Church , and let them pray over him ; anoynting him with Oile in the Name of the Lord ; and the prayer of faith shall save the sick , and the Lord shall raise him up ; and if he have committed sins , they shall be forgiven him . From whence we may observe , that this duty is injoyned by the Apostle upon those that are sick : Herein the soul ought to wait upon God , and in this way to look up unto God for healing . But Oh! the evil of professors in this our day , who run to the Physitian , but not to God ; but few wait upon God in his way : the Lord complained of this of old , as a great evil , as the 2 Kings 1. 16 vers. yea , we may see this was Asa's sin , 2 Chro. 16. 12 vers. though he were in much affliction ; yet he sought not unto the Lord , but to the Physitian . And is not this the sin of many Professors in this our day ? O! that God would make them sensible thereof , and make this word of use to them , that they may look more up unto God , that they may exercise more faith upon him for healing ; that if they can but with the poor Woman , Mark . 5. 26 , 27 , 28 , vers. touch the hem of Christs garment , for there is much vertue still in him . Object . Some will say , We cannot see this way to continue in the Church of Christ amongst believers , unless we did see the effect thereof . Answer . First , If you Judge of the minde of God , that which is laid down your duty , by the effect , you may run your selves into many temptations , as the Jews of old did : when they saw not the glory of the last Temple , to be so great as the glory of the first Temple was , Hag. 2. 3 , vers. they were discouraged in the work of the Lord , which God required , and so indeed , this temptation got upon them , as in the first Chapter , the second verse : The time is not come , the time that the Lords House should be built ; but the Lord for this reproves them with Judgments , as you may see in the 4 , 5 , and 6 verses , and after by his servant Haggai exhorteth them unto the work , as in the 8 verse , and incourageth them unto it , in the 13 vers. Then spake Haggai in the Lords Message unto the people , saying , I am with you , saith the Lord : and in the second Chapter , 5 vers. According to the word that I covenanted with you , when you came up out of Egypt ; so my Spirit remaineth amongst you : fear you not . So I say , God is a God in Covenant with believers ; his truths are sealed by the blood of Christ . O then take heed of questioning his faithfulness in making good his promise : from whence doth this proceed , our looking for such and such effects , but indeed from our unbelief , not believing the promise of God ? therefore take heed of judging the minde of God by the effects : for in so doing , you will make the way of God of no force or weight for souls obedience . 2. How can you see the effect of that , you have never yet attained unto nor believed ? therefore I may say to you , as the Lord Jesus did unto the Jews , If you will do his will , you shall know of the Doctrine , Iohn 7. 17. 3. What effect have you seen , of the laying on of hands upon persons to office ? it is true , as many write , and do say , laying on of hands is a resignation of a person or persons to office ; therefore they instance Moses laying on his hands upon Ioshua , Numb. 27. 23 , vers. but you shall find a more excellent effect , that which fitted him for that work , which he was called unto , as Deut. 34. 9 , vers. Ioshua the Son of Nun , was full of the Spirit of wisdom : for Moses had laid his hands upon him . Learn from hence , that as it is Gods way , so he meets with his people therein ; and as in that Ordinance of laying on of hands upon persons to office , so also in this of anointing with Oile . For his wayes are not in vain unto his people . 4. Those who have waited upon God in this Ordinance , have found the effect thereof ; they have met with God therein , they have seen his faithfulness , been partaker of his grace , received healing , not onely to their bodies , but also to their souls : this effect some poor souls , who waited upon God in this way , have been partakers of ; so that they are able to bear witness to this truth , and also to set to their seals , that God is true , a faithful God ; meeting with those who wait upon him , in his way : therefore I may say of this truth of Christ , as one may say of the new Wine in the cluster , Isai. 65. 8 , vers. Destroy it not , for a blessing is in it . 5. We do not so much minde in our waiting upon God in this way , to see an immediate work of healing , which is that which too many doat upon , and so like Thomas , unless they see a sign , they will not believe , Iohn 20. 25 , vers. But we do chiefly mind our duty , believing , that it shall not be in vain our waiting upon him therein , so leaving the effect of it unto God , who knows best when to give in mercyes to his people . Now this may be matter of information , especially to those , who look upon laying on of hands for healing , to be the anointing with Oile , spoken of by the Apostle Iames , that they are and were two distinct things ; the one being a particular gift of the Spirit , which a person might receive of healing , immediately by the laying on of hands , as the Apostle Paul did , Acts 28. 8 , vers. and many others also . The other an Ordinance of Christ , wherein the Ministry of the Church were to act , and that not by vertue of any particular gift , but of their ministerial office ; and therefore saith the Apostle , Iam. 5. Let him call for the Elders of the Church , and let them pray over him , anointing him with Oile in the Name of the Lord : wherein they ought , as in all other appointments , to look up unto the Lord for a blessing , leaving the giving forth of his grace to the poor soul , unto himself . 2. By what hath been said , is reproved the ignorance of the people of God this day , that have been long reading and learning of the Scripture , and yet are ignorant of this command ; and likewise those that are Teachers and Leaders of congregations , that know the will of God , yet walk not in the practise thereof . It likewise reproves those congregations , that have for some season , looked upon themselves as Churches of Christ , and yet want this order among them . Oh that they would consider the reason , why they are short in this particular , that they might see whether or no , the Lord have not a controversie with them , for their neglect , and their opposition against one principle of his Doctrine , that which Christ taught , unto which believers as believers were obedient , which is a great transgression , their neglecting to hear Christ in that saying of his , which is the last particular of laying on of hands I have minded , as I shall indeavour in it's place by the Lords assistance , to make forth unto you . Secondly , Of laying on of hands upon persons to office . THis was likewise an Ordinance , or way of God , by which those persons who were called to office by the Church of Christ were set apart , and so indeed are to be set apart , as it was the practise of the first Churches , and of those who first trusted in Christ , whose footsteps we are to follow : in this way they went : see Acts 13. 3 , vers. And when they had fasted and prayed , and laid their hands on them , to wit , Paul and Barnabas , they sent them away . From whence observe , and that first , the work it was great , it was to the Ministry , according to what the Lord had spoken concerning Paul , that he was a chosen vessel , and that to preach the Gospel unto the Gentiles , as you may see in the 26 of the Acts 15. 16 , 17 , vers. so the work was great , to the performance of which they would need much of the power and presence of the Lord with them ; therefore they fasted and prayed , and layed their hands on them , &c. 2. Observe , the persons who laid on hands , they were the Prophets and Teachers in this Church , as in the 1 and 2 verses . So likewise , somtimes it was done by the Apostles themselves , as Acts 6. 6 , vers. so also by Paul and Barnabas , who were called as before to the office of Apostles , to lay the foundation , to do the work of an Apostle , Acts 14. 23 , vers. so also by Timothy , who was the first Bishop of the Church of Ephesus , 1 Tim. 5. 22. vers. and also Titus , Tit. 1. 5. vers. so likewise by the Presbytery , the Company of Eldership in the Church , who were by the Church of Christ , called to officiate in the wayes of God unto his people , by whom Timothy was ordained a Bishop , 1 Timot. 4. 14. vers. So that we see this way of God , and the manner of the performance thereof , in some small measure discovered ; I shall give but this touch of this second thing minded , and that for this reason : Because our opposers of laying on of hands upon believers , as believers , have owned the laying on of hands upon officers , though in a disorderly manner they have gone forth in the practise thereof , as will appear , First , from what Mr. Collier writes in his book of Right Constitution , pag. 31. where saith he , the qualifications of Elders and Deacons are expressed , 1 Timot. 3. Answ. I have read of Bishops and Deacons , and of Apostles and Elders , who were Deacons ; but never of Elders and Deacons : My reason is , because a Deacon is an Elder in the Church . 2. This discovers according to their practise , what they have set persons apart for : as their pastoral Charge in the Church of Christ , they were set apart for Elders ; so also , as Ministers of the Gospel , they were ordained for Elders , though their great disorder is , in building before the foundation was rightly laid ; yet observe the wise mistaken in their proceeding , though by this practise of theirs , with fair words they have stopped the mouths of many poor souls , who were clearing themselves from such disorder as they were in ; they stopped their consciences with this , that they are under laying on of hands , as well as those that do practise it upon believers as believers . I say , In this , how confused have they appeared in their setting persons apart for Elders ? not knowing , or at least not minding , that in the word Elders is comprehended all officers in the Church , with the Ministerial work also , 1 Pet. 5. 1 , vers. 2 Epistle Iohn 1. vers. 3. 1. vers. and so Elders is distinguished into several offices in the Church , as Bishops and Deacons : the Deacons were to be men full of the Holy Spirit and faith ; & so indeed fit for the work of the Lord among his people , as well as Bishops , and so were Elders in the Church , see Acts 6. 6. vers. and Act. 15. 22. vers. where the Deacons spoken of in the 6 Chapter , are called Elders in the 15 Chapter : again , Philip . 1. 1. vers. where the Apostle writeth to the Saints , with the Bishops and Deacons : so Paul to Timothy writes of the qualifications of the Bishops and Deacons , not Elders and Deacons ; you shall never in all the Scripture find Elders and Deacons expressed . So that I hope , this may be a word of use unto them ; however it will be unto the Church of Christ , though from a weak and unworthy instrument . I shall now leave them as to this , but as for the ordination it self , they having now at last , come forth in the practise thereof , they must stand to maintain it ; and therefore knowing their abilities , I shall leave them to contend for this truth , with those ( if there be any ) that do oppose it , it being that I do believe , and have allowed of , therefore I shall only take notice of one or two objections made by some , and then proceed to the third thing minded . Objection . Some there are , who say there are no Apostles now : they laid hands upon persons to office then ; therefore that practise is deased . To which I shall give this two-fold answer . 1. That those who were not Apostles , as to their call , But Bishops or Pastors of Churches , were exhorted to walk in this way , Tit. 1. 5. vers. 1 Tim. 5. 22. vers. yea Prophets and Teachers by the authority of the Church of Christ , may lay on hands , Acts 13. 1 , 2 , 3 , vers. 2. By this appears a great mistake in the understanding of many men , ( according to this objection ; ) Object . That the Ministry of the Apostles is ceased . I Answer , The office of an Apostle is the first office in the Church of Christ , and that is to lay the foundation ; the foundation of the service of God ; therefore saith Paul , I have laid the foundation , 1 Cor. 3. 10. vers. the foundation , that is , the Lord Jesus Christ in his Doctrine , that which Christ and his Apostles did teach , upon which the Church of Christ was built : see Ephes. 2. 20. which , foundation was the beginning-Word of Christ , that which persons ought to know , and to believe , before they are sit for the service of God . But now , that this , viz. ( to lay the foundation , ) is the first office in the house of God : see the 1 Corint . 12. 28 , vers. God hath set some in the Church ; first Apostles , &c. so Christ did ascend , and gave gifts unto men , and that some to be Apostles , as well as other offices in the Church , Ephes. 4. 8. compared with the 11. vers. Object . But now some may say , Christ did chuse Apostles , he chose Twelve , which he called Apostles ; therefore they ceasing , the office ceased . Answer . To which I Answer , that this was before Christ ascended ; but after he ascended , he gave some Apostles ; that is , to that work to lay the foundation , Ephes. 4. 11 , vers. and so Paul and Barnabas were Apostles , Acts 14. 4. and 14. vers. and others also spoken of in the 2 Cor. 8. 23. vers. 1 Cor. 14. 1. compared with 6. and 9. vers. He that doth authoritatively as the first Apostles , or by vertue of the authority of the Church of Christ , lay the foundation of the service of God , he is properly an Apostle , he doth the work of an Apostle : for other foundation no man can lay , that is to be approved of by the Lord ; yet other men may lay the same , even preach the same Doctrine of Christ , which he did , &c. Thirdly , Of laying on of hands upon Baptized believers as such , to the end they might receive the Spirit . THat laying on of hands upon Baptized believers , as such , is one part of their obedience to the Lord , which he requires of them ; an Ordinance of the Lord Jesus Christ ; I shall thus prove unto you : First , because it is a saying of our Lord Jesus Christ , that which he taught , and that for believers obedience , as well as repentance , faith and Baptisme : see Heb. 6. 1 , 2. Many persons do say , If we could but see , where ever Christ taught it ; Surely , we should not gainsay it . O that now they would consider for their conviction this Scripture , Heb. 6. 1. vers. where the Apostle calls it the Doctrine or Teaching of Christ ; and a more sufficient witness that Christ taught it , we cannot have , then the Apostle is . The Doctrine of Christ , that which he taught , as he did repentance , faith , resurrection and eternal judgment : Now consider , Doctrine doth imply teaching , and teaching doth infer practise , that so believers might learn , for teaching and learning are relations as a Father and Child , the one infers the other . Now to inforce this reason for our obedience , we may consider these three things . First , what the Apostle saith , in Acts 3. 22. vers. where we are injoyned to a hearing of Christ in all things , and that also from the danger that will follow our neglect , as in the 23 verse . 2. In that it is placed amongst those foundation-principles , Hebr. 6. 1 , 2. and that in the midst of them , as if the Spirit of the Lord did foresee the opposition that would be made against this truth . 3. Because it is one of Christs first teachings , and therefore those words in Heb. 6. 1. may be rendered the beginning-word of Christ , the A.B.C. of a Christian , one of those first lessons that believers then did learn , and now should learn ; which is this , to wait upon God in this way of his , for the Spirit of promise , which is their right , whereby they might be inabled , as they do desire , to do him service . Object . But now unto this , some object , and say , that all things that Christ did and said , we are not to be followers of him in , as to raise the dead , to command the winde to cease , and the like . Answer . To which I answer , though this may be true , yet what is this to the purpose ? Because we are not to say in all things as he did ; therefore we must say in nothing as he did , neither as he taught us : this is error with a witness . We grant that in all things we are not to do and say as Christ did : But yet in all things that does relate to the worship and service of God , as repentance , faith , and Baptism ; or our duty in our conversation , we are to do as he hath said , for unto this God himself commands us , see Luke 9. 35. Acts 3. 22. Him shall ye hear in all things , &c. Object . Further , to make voyd this reason , some object , and say that Christ taught the resurrection of the dead , and eternal Judgment , as well as laying on of hands ; but that is only to be believed : the resurrection and Judgment , we know we cannot practise . Answ. To which I answer , first ; This is that we ought as believers to do , if possible we can , to attain to the resurrection of the dead , Phil. 3. 11. 2. That Christ taught it , we grant ; and that it is for our obedience , we do also affirm , and that is so far as he requires it . 3. I do hope , you do also know , that so far as Christ hath taught us , we ought to be obedient to him : that which he taught which was Notional , we ought to believe ; that which he taught , which was practical , we ought to obey . Now consider , laying on of hands is a practical Doctrine , as is manifest by the Apostles actings and the Saints obedience , Acts 8. 17. Acts 19. 6. Now let the opposers of this truth of Christ shew , where ever laying on of hands was taught by Christ , as the resurrection and eternal Judgment , only to be believed , and then they will say and do somthing to their purpose . Object . But say some , In Heb. 6. 1. the Apostle calls it a Doctrine , but not a practise ; and so by this would make voyd this way of God . Answ. This objection was answered by Doctor Chamberlain in his dispute with Captain Kiffin , as you may see in the 10th page of his book , where saith Doctor Chamberlain , Because the Apostle calls it a Doctrine , therefore so far from being not practised , that it ought the rather to be practised ; for without practising no learning . Again , saith he , you wrest this Scripture , whereas the express purpose of the Holy Spirit is , To teach Doctrines , that so believers might do what is taught . For the proof of which , he cites Mat. 28. 20. Mat. 7. 21 , 24. Ioh. 13. 17. and 15. 14. Iam. 22. 23 , 24 , 25. Phil. 4. 9. and many other places : yet saith he , you wrest it to the direct contrary ; and you say therefore it is called a Doctrine , that it might not be practised , for indeed so much such an objection doth import . But Mr Perry in his book of Animadversions in answer to Doctor Chamberlain , pag. 14. as he doth therein conceive that which is true , so he doth suppose that where in he is mistaken , and that is , to think , and so to write , that Doctor Chamberlain minded Mr Kiffens wresting of the Scriptures above mentioned ; whereas indeed , we may plainly see in his book , and in this I have written of his words , that he minded him of wresting Heb. 6. 1. which was the ground of this objection : and therefore we may take notice , that the Scriptures above mentioned , do sufficient prove what Doctor Chamberlain brought them for , which was this , that Heb. 6. 1. was wrested by Mr Kiffin from the proper true meaning of the Spirit of God therein . Mr Perries words you may see , are these : saith Mr Perry , I conceive that every Doctrine of Christ , that he hath commanded to be taught by his Apostles , and his Disciples were commanded to observe and practise , ought to be practised : but if this appear not in this particular thing in any of those Scriptures , wherein hath Mr Kiffin wrested them ? I know not : but ( saith he ) in the contrary , I suppose he doth own them , in what the Spirit of God means in them , according to what light he hath received . To the later part of these words , I answer thus much , Who knows not what Mr Perry saith of Mr Kiffin , to be true , and so indeed of all men , unless they walk contrary to their light ? But from the former part of his discourse , we may observe two things : 1. His mistake , as you have already heard , &c. 2. His granting what we contend for , viz. that every Doctrine of Christ which he commands to be taught by his Apostles , and his Disciples were commanded to observe and practise , ought to be practised ; this is that we do affirm ; and therefore do contend for this truth or Doctrine of Christ with him and others that do oppose it : For did Christ teach it , as you have heard ; and did the Apostles teach it , as you shall hear in the next reason for the proof of this truth ; and did Baptized believers , as such , observe and practise it , as Acts 8. 17. Acts 19. 6. and shall not believers now practise it ? Shall not they tread in the footsteps of the flocks of Christ , be followers of those who first trusted in him ? Shall the cunning working of Satan prevail alwayes , ( as he hath done for a long time , to the perverting and destroying of the truths of Christ , ) and as he doth to this day , to the denying of them ? I say , shall he alwayes prevail ? God forbid : O let God be true , but every man a lyer ; for what was written afore-time , was written for our learning , that we through patience , and comfort of the Scriptures might have hope , Rom. 15. 4. O therefore let not truth be destroyed : his Doctrine was sealed with his blood , even the death of Christ , and shall we alter or deny his will ? God forbid : shall not we hope to find acceptance with God in his appointment ? Surely the contrary will discover us to be such , that little regard his Laws , whose precepts are not our delight . 2. Reason . As Christ taught it , so the Apostles taught it , read Heb. 5. 12. compared with Chapter 6. 1 , 2. in the first Chapter 12 vers. saith the Apostle ; Whereas for the time you ought to be Teachers , you have need to be taught again , which are the first principles of the oracles of God , &c. where by these words , you have need to be taught again , is plainly implyed , they were once taught this principle ; and that this the Apostles did teach them , is also manifest , in that they laid the foundation of this Church of the Hebrews ; who were those Jews , spoken of in Acts 2. 42. who are there said to continue in the Apostles Doctrine : and as they taught it , so it was a way of God , wherein they did administer unto his people , and unto which they were obedient : see Acts 8. and Acts 19. Object . But now some will say , In Acts 2. is not mentioned laying on of hands ; therefore believers there were not under it . Answ. Two which I answer , as laying on of hands is not in so many words there laid down , no more there is not the resurrection from the dead , and eternal Judgement in so many words expressed ; doth that therefore prove they were not taught them ? Surely , the Apostles would not have baptized them , but upon that profession , that their bodies should be raised , as well as Christ dyed for them . Again , to say that the Apostles did not there preach laying on of hands , in Acts 2. proves no more , or is to no more purpose , then to say that Philip did not preach Baptisme to the Eunuch , when we read of not one word he spake of it , although he Baptized him , as you may see Acts 8. 35. But now that the Jews who did believe , were taught laying on of hands , resurrection , and eternal Judgment , is plainly manifest , from Heb. 5. 12. compared with Heb. 6. 1 , 2. where as you have heard , he minds them of it , as one of those first lessons they had learned , and as a principle of the foundation , or beginning-word of Christ committed to them . 2. Consider what is written : they ( to wit , those that were Baptized and added to the Church , who gladly received the word , ) continued in the Apostles Doctrine , see Acts 2. 42. Now this they could not do , if they had not been taught laying on of hands which was a principle thereof , part of what Christ and his Apostles taught them , as you have already heard , or may see in the Reasons given ; unless we deny their wayes to be the same in every Church , 1 Cor. 4. 17. Again consider , how can it be thought with honour to God and his truth , that a man can be said to continue in the Doctrine of the Apostles or word of Christ , when they were not in the practise of it ? for say the Objectors , There is no mention made of laying on of hands , no more say I there is not of the resurrection and eternal Judgment , and yet both preached and received by them . 3. Consider , they are here said to be added to the Church , as well as they received the word , and were Baptized . Object . But now some may and do say , By this you make laying on of hands to be an Ordinance , whereby those that did believe and were Baptized , were added to the Church . Answ. To which I answer , Yes , and that because laying on of hands was next administred after Baptisme , and that in order to the placing of the Soul in the house of God ; it being part of its foundation , the beginning-Word of Christ ; and in this order , was both preached and practised by the Apostles . This likewise we may consider , that the end of this Ordinance is promised , and applyed to those that are Baptized , see Acts 2. 38. where saith the Apostle , And you shall receive the gift of Holy Spirit ; for the promise is to you ; yea , saith he , to as many as the Lord our God shall call ; that is , the promised Spirit should be given according to the will of God : and in the 41 vers. it is said , They that gladly received the Word were Baptized , and the same day were added unto them three thousand Souls : where we may take notice of this order ; 1. They gladly received the Word ; 2. Were Baptized ; 3. Were added to the Church . From whence we may learn thus much , that by Baptisme they were not added ; because their addition to the Church followed after their Baptisme : for as their gladsome receiving of the Word went before their Baptisme , so did their Baptisme before their addition ; which addition was something else besides , and more then Baptism ; for so much the Text doth hold forth ; and being added , they continued in the Apostles Doctrine : and so it is plain , as it is part of the foundation , so it followed Baptisme , as you may see by the practise thereof , Acts 8. 17 , 19. Chapter 6. 7. 3. Reason . Because as Christ and his Apostles did teach it , so they taught it as a principle of the foundation of the service of God , a foundation-principle of that service , wherein they were to live to the Glory of God , and upon which they were to stand to go on to perfection : read Heb. 6. 1 , 2. When Moses was to build a Tabernacle unto God , he had a strict charge , that he should do every thing according to the pattern the Lord had given him , Exod. 25. 40. and so afterward , when Solomon was to build the Temple , he likewise was to do it according to the pattern which David had received by the Spirit ; and as it is said , which he was made to understand , by the hand of God upon him : the first of Chron. 28. 11 , 12. and 19. Now as Moses and Solomon were not left at liberty to follow their own understanding , but were faithfull to make all things according to the pattern of Gods will : So neither were the Apostles , but also were faithful stewards of the will and commands of the Lord Jesus : the first of Cor. 4. 1. which Jesus the Christ , likewise was a Messenger , and the great Prophet of the eternal God , whose word is Gods will unto his people , Acts 7. 37. and who as a Son , even as Moses a Servant , was faithful over his own house , Heb , 3. 2. Who was faithful to him that appointed him , even as Moses was faithfull in all his house ; Even as Moses : as Moses was faithful to do every thing , exactly according to the pattern ; so was the Lord Jesus Christ faithfull unto him , who did appoint him . And surely this considered , we may easily see , there is not less exactness and circumspection to be used now in times of the Gospel , in building a Spiritual house unto God , then there was under the Law , in that which was typical : for that exactness under the Law served but as an example or shadow of Heavenly things , that is to say , Spiritual or Gospel-things , Heb. 8. 5. Now this being a foundation-principle , it ought to be laid in every Church of Christ : for it is no way consonant to truth , for a man to think ever to make a lasting building , ( either in Spirituals or Civils ) without a good foundation : for saith David , Psal. 11. 3. If the foundations be destroyed , what can the righteous do ? read Luke 6. 49. This being a principle of Gods chusing , to be laid in the beginning or foundation of his service ; How doth it concern us , and all those who put to their hands to erect and constitute a Church unto Christ , to do whatever they do , as much as in them lies , according to the pattern given by God ; & that in building they leave out no part of his foundation ? for a principle is a main support unto the building , especially where God himself layes it . 4. Reason . Because laying on of hands is an oracle of God , one of those commands that God gave unto his Church , read Heb. 5. 12. with Heb. 6. 1 , 2. saith the Apostle , You have need to be taught again , which be the first principles of the oracles of God , that is , of his Commands , for so the word oracle doth imply , as you may see , Acts 7. 38. This is he that was in the Church in the Wilderness , with the Angel which spake to him in the Mount Sinai , and with our Fathers who received the lively oracles to give unto us ; that is , the whole word of the Law , or Commands of God , declared unto his people by the mouth of Moses , for their obedience : as also Rom. 3. 1 , 2 vers. bears witness unto this : What advantage then hath the Iew ? or what profit is there of circumcision ? much every way ; because unto them were committed the Oracles of God ; Where by Oracles is signified the whole Law committed unto them , as in Heb. 5. 12. the word Oracles being in the plural number , doth signifie the whole will of God committed to believers , the Doctrine of Christ : and the beginning of the Oracles of God , is the first part of Christ his Doctrine , the things which Christ first revealed and preached to them , as the Apostle bears witness , Heb. 6. 1 , 2 verses . Yea , the word Oracle doth hold forth the counsel of God , which is the will and minde of God unto his people , for their obedience ; therefore saith the Apostle , 1 Pet. 4. 11. If any man speak , let him speak as an Oracle of God ; that is , as the will and minde of God for souls obedience : the Apostle Paul tells the Ephesians , Acts 20. 20 vers. that he kept back nothing , that was profitable unto them ; and in the 27 vers. that he had declared unto them the whole Counsel of God : a part whereof was laying on of hands , it being that he taught and practised among them , as Acts 19. 6. Object . But now to turn aside this truth , saith Mr Collier in his book of Right Constitution , in the 76 page , Oracles do not alwayes imply commands : though all commands are Oracles ; yet all Oracles are not commands . Answer . Two which I answer , that though all commands are Oracles , and all Oracles are not commands ; yet what is this unto the purpose ? doth this prove that laying on of hands is not one of those Oracles , that are the commands of the Lord Jesus Christ : for was it not reckoned with , and so left upon record , as that which Christ did teach with repentance , faith , and Baptism , resurrection and eternal Judgment , as the foundation of the service of God to every believing Soul , Heb. 6. 1 , 2. was it not that which the Apostles taught , that unto which Baptized believers as such were obedient ? as Act. 8. 17. & 19. 6. this considered , were excuse to answer this objection . But surely the weakness of this objection is discovered , if we consider Mr Colliers reasoning , in the 78 page of his book : saith he The word truly read both in Heb. 5. 12. and 6. 1. is not the principles ; but the begining of the Oracles of God , and the word of the begining of Christ ; and so cites the Greek words , to hold forth not principles of the doctrine , but beginning of the word , the same , as in the 1 Iohn 1. In the begining was the word , &c. To which I answer , that it is easily discovered , and I think upon second consideration himself will grant , that the word signifies principles as well as beginnings ; although I do grant that in other places it may so signifie , and in this place , ( to be so rendred ) may not be altogether improper ; Yet I must tell him , and I would have others minde it , that as he saith , if the words be truly read , they do so signifie ; so I say , If the words have their proper sence given to them , they do hold forth principles of the Doctrine of Christ . For I pray you , what is the beginning of the words of Christ , when it is minded as the foundation , but principles of his Doctrine ? for they are such things as make a sure foundation for the Saints to build upon : and so we may observe that these principles put together , are the foundation of the service of Christ ; and that these principles here minded , are such things as are not temporary , but lasting , and according to the minde and will of Christ , to be continued in by the Saints so long as they continue in this World . But saith he further in that place of his book : There are many things that are Doctrines and Oracles for us to believe , but not to practise ; and so instanceth the Apostles waiting at Ierusalem , till the Spirit came upon them ; their speaking with Tongues , healing the sick , raising the dead , &c. these saith he are all Doctrines of the beginning and laying of the foundation , to be believed , but not practised , unless in the same power . To which I answer , first , for healing the sick , raising the dead , speaking with Tongues immediately ; we cannot do , unless we are partakers of the same power : Neither ought we now to go and wait at Ierusalem by vertue of that command the Apostles had : although thus much I may minde , that as the Apostles waited at Ierusalem for the promise of the Father ; so ought every believing Soul to wait in Zion , in the wayes of God , till he be fitted for the work of God , before he go forth therein , as too many do this day . 2. Saith he , they are all Doctrines of the beginning and laying the foundation . But now say I , Where are they laid down , as laying on of hands is , Heb. 6. 2. part of the foundation ? for their waiting at Ierusalem , their speaking with Tongues , healing the sick , raising the dead , &c. was never laid down the foundation , or principles of the foundation , or beginning-Word of Christ ; but laying on of hands was part of the foundation , which was confirmed to be the Word of Christ with signes , miracles , and gifts of Holy Spirit ; as the speaking with Tongues , healing the sick , raising the dead , and the like . 3. I answer , that this is but cunning reasoning , to subvert the truth : for as to the Apostles waiting at Ierusalem , did not Christ command the so to do ? and does not our consciences tell us , that that command was temporary , ended with the doing of the duty there required ; & is of no more weight in this case , then as if he had instanced that Christ commanded one of his Disciples to fetch an ass upon which he did ride unto Ierusalem ? And for speaking with Tongues , healing the sick , and raising the dead , they were particular gifts , not that which is applyed to every one ; to the performance thereof , as we see , laying on of hands was applyed , 1. To the Iews , Heb. 5. 12. 2. To the Samaritans , Acts 8. 17. 3. To the Ephesians , Acts 19. 6. and so it was minded to the Hebrews , as well as repentance , faith , Baptismes , Resurrection , and eternal Judgment , as that which they ought to consider of , according to their profession of Christ therein ; that was , to wait upon God for his Spirit to teach them , and to assist them in their Holy profession : without the assistance of which Spirit , they were not able to live unto God . I say , this Ordinance of Christ , it ought to have according to their profession of Christ therein , an influence upon , and through their whole lives ; even as its fellow-principle Baptisme , as you may see Rom. 6. 3 , 4 , 5 , 6. 5. Reason . Because there was no Church of Christ without this Ordinance or way of Christ , and that as a principle in the foundation of his service ; the foundation , even the Doctrine of Christ and of the Apostles , upon which they did stand , as first the Hebrews , who were the first Church of Christ under the Gospel , whose pattern we ought to follow : this was that they received , Heb. 6. 2. and that when they were babes , Heb. 5. 12. which first pattern must be followed whether we will or no , God will have it so ; for he is bringing forth his truth in righteousness , according to that prophecie , Ezek. 43. 10 , 11 , 12. 2. The Samaritans , who were the second Church of Christ we read of ; this way they went , and that next after Baptisme , Acts 8. 17. 3. The Church at Ephesus were set up on this foundation-principle , Acts 19. 6. this was part of the counsel of God committed unto them by the Apostle Paul , Acts 20. 27. 4. A fourth witness unto this truth , and that is the Church at Derbe and Lystra , of whom Paul laid the foundation , as Acts 14. 6. and of whom Timothy was a member , Acts 16. 1 , 2. upon whom Paul laid his hands , 2 Tim. 1. 6. Wherefore , saith the Apostle ; as if he should say , Seeing thou hast that excellent grace and gift of faith , ( which he speaks of in the 5 verse , ) I put thee in Remembrance , or I do admonish thee , that thou stir up the gift of God which is in thee , by the putting on of my hands , or which God gave thee , through the laying on of my hands : from whence it is plain , that in this way Timothy waited upon God , which was not in vain unto him ; and afterwards being approved of , was ordained to the work of the Ministry , by the laying on of hands of the Company of the Eldership , as the first of Tim. 4. 14. doth manifest . And so I do conclude , as these were , so were all other Churches , and that for these two Reasons . 1. Because their wayes were the same in every Church , 1 Cor. 4. 17. 2. Because they had a form of Doctrine to deliver to them , according as it is laid down , in Heb. 6. 1 , 2 the Apostle writing to the Romans , in the 6 Chapter 17 vers. saith he , You have obeyed from the heart the form of Doctrine . Now what was that , but repentance from dead works , and faith towards God , &c. even all that our Saviour taught , even a form ? Object . But now some may say , We read of it no more then in those places administred , and therefore it was not the practise of all Churches . Answ. To which I answer , This proves nothing , no more then this very objection , which is made by Independents so called , against Baptisme ; because they finde it not administred in all , therefore all were not under the practise thereof : but this is false , even as the Objection is untrue : for the wayes of the Apostles were the same in every Church , and the Doctrine one that was delivered to them : and look what objections may be made against this truth , the same , as is plainly manifested ( in the discourse between Doctor Chamberlain , and Captain Kiffin , ) may be made against Baptisme . Further , you may take notice in how many Churches you read of the breaking of Bread , in as many you shall finde the laying on of hands as breaking Bread was in Iudea , Trod● , Corinth ; so the laying on of hands in the Hebrews , Samaria , and Ephesia ; yea , a fourth witness we have unto this truth , which was Pauls laying on his hands upon Timothy , as is before minded : so that I say , persons may as well object against other truths of Christ , as against this . But this we know , In the mouth of two or three witnesses , every Word of Christ shall be established ; therefore let us beware lest we , as many do , Kick against this truth of Christ ; and as many do , and have done against Baptisme . 6. Reason . Because it is that which is milk for Babes , a beginning-Word of Christ , read Heb. 5. 12 , 13. You are ( saith the Apostle ) such as have need of milk , and not of strong meat . Now consider , was it for Babes then , and is it onely for strong men , now ? as many persons , who deny it to believers as believers , yet will own it for setting persons apart for office : O what deceit is wrapped up in this ! But surely , this was for Babes , and the Hebrews learnt it in that condition : and this is certain , that which was for Babes then , is for Babes now ; and that which was for strong men then , is for strong men now ; for so the Apostle reasoneth , Heb. 5. 14. Strong meat belongeth unto strong men , who by reason of use have their sences excercised to discern both good and evil . Object . But now some object , that laying on of hands , Heb. 6. 2. may be meant to heal the sick , according to these Scriptures , Mark 16. 18. and Acts 28. 8. or else for setting persons apart for office , according to Acts 6. 6. or Acts 13. 3. Answ. To which I answer , that it cannot be so meant , for this reason : Because in none of those Scriptures , laying on of hands is laid down as a foundation-principle , as we see here , in Heb. 6. 2. laying on of hands is so laid down . For consider , those Scriptures , Mark 16. 18. and Acts 28. 8. do hold forth no such thing as a foundation-principle ; but that particular men may receive such a particular gift of God , as to heal the sick , according as Christ promised , Mark 16. 18. and Paul received , Acts 28. 8. as also Philip , Acts 8. and many others , as many in the Church of Corinth ; which is no more a foundation-principle , neither in the practise , milk for Babes , then laying on of hands , ( which some make mention of , ) in Luke 21. 12. So likewise those Scriptures , Acts 6. 6. and 13. 3. hold forth no more a foundation-principle then the former ; and that , Because laying on of hands here , was upon particular men , who were set apart for particular offices , and that for the good of the Church of Christ : this was not to Babes , but strong men ; the Apostle reckons up the Hebrews Babes , as Heb. 5. 12. but these were strong men , who were fit to be imployed in the work of the Ministry , such as the Apostle speaks of , in Heb. 5. 14. Who by reason of use , had their sences exercised to discern both good and evil . Such who were gone beyond those spoken of , in the 12. and 13. vers. being in a capacity of teaching others ; therefore laying on of hands in the fore-mentioned Scriptures , upon persons for healing , or for setting persons apart for office , cannot be that meant , in Heb. 6. 2. as the foundation or beginning-principle , which is milk for Babes , Heb. 5. 12. And therefore , I do conclude that laying on of hands upon believers , as believers , is the foundation-principle , the beginning-Word of Christ , that which concerns every believing soul , which is food to it , and nourishment to it ; which is that they are capable of , but not of the former , they being not in the like capacity . Therefore my Brethren , as we find it written , we should not take away the Childrens Bread , and give it unto Dogs ; so let us not take away their milk , but feed them with it , &c. 7. Reason . Because it is part of the Word of the Lord , that was confirmed unto us : that it was the Word of Christ , hath been plainly manifested , it being that which he taught , his Doctrine , Heb. 6. 1. Also you may see the first reason for the proof of this . Now that it was confirmed to us , read Mark 16. 20. And they went forth and Preached everywhere , the Lord working with them , and confirmed the Word with signes following . Now whereas some object , that laying on of hands was for the confirmation of the Gospel ; they may now by what hath been said , plainly see that it was part of the Word of the Lord , or saying of Christ ; even his teaching unto which believers as such were obedient , one part of his Doctrine ; which therefore was ( as the rest ) confirmed with signes , miracles , and gifts of the Holy Spirit . But for further answer to this objection , we may consider , that which confirmed the Word , and the Word , were different : laying on of hands , as you have heard , was the Word of God , the teaching of Christ ; but signes , miracles , and gifts of the Holy Spirit , were the confirmation thereof , Mark 16. 20. they appeared , whereby this word and way of God was and is confirmed unto us to be the stedfast Word of Christ . Miracles are no foundation-principles ; they are not any part of the Word of the beginning of Christ ; but those things by which the Word of God was & is confirmed unto us , to be the stedfast Word of Christ ; the neglect of any part thereof , God will punish : for saith the Apostle , Heb. 2. 2 , 3. If the Word spoken by Angels , were stedfast , and every transgression and disobedience deserved a just recompence of reward : how shall we escape if we neglect so great salvation , which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord , and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him ? Therefore my Brethren , as the same Apostle saith , Heb. 12. 25. so my exhortation is unto you ; See that you refuse not him that speaketh : for if they escaped not , who refused him that spake on earth , much more shall not we escape , if we turn away from him that speaketh from Heaven . Now truth being declared , the Lord requires obedience ; and therefore it lies as a duty upon every believing Soul , to consider his wayes , and with the good man David , to turn his feet into the wayes of God , Psal. 119. 59. and to set shoulders to the work of the Lord , that the breaches in Sion may be again repaired , and the paths therein , may be again restored ( according to the Word of the Lord , Isai. 58. 12. vers. 61. 4. vers. ) and in so doing , we shall be partakers of those promises , which are annexed as the reward of such service . In the next place , I shall proceed to answer some objections which many persons make further against this truth , and then shall lay down some Incouragements unto persons to the performance of this duty : and in the last place shall lay down some grounds of our withdrawing from those that obey not Christ in his Ordinance , answering some objections . Object . The first and greatest of them , is this : That we have no command for the laying on of hands . Answ. Now that we have a command , appears , First , from Christs teaching of it ; there is a positive Command for what he taught , as a part of his service we are injoyned to be obedient unto ; but Christ did teach this as a part of his service ; yea , as a principal part thereof , not onely relating to the building , but to the foundation of the building , which is of more weight , as Heb. 6. 1 , 2. Now that this we are commanded to observe ; see how full that Scripture comes upon us , Acts 3. 22. A Prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you , of your Brethren , like unto me , him shall you hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you ; yea , this command is followed with a curse , if we obey not , verse 23. And it shall come to passe , that every Soul which will not hear that Prophet , shall be destroyed from amongst the people . 2. Answer . VVe have a command , and that also from the Apostles teaching and practise of it : that they did teach it , and practise it , you have already heard in the second Reason . Now as they did teach it , and practise it , see how positive the command lies upon us , Phil. 4. 9. Those things which you have both learned and received , and heard , and seen in me , do , and the God of love and peace shall be with you : also minde , 2 Thes. 2. 15. Therefore Brethren stand fast , and hold the Traditions which you have been taught , whether by Word or our Epistle . Now beloved , this was one of those things , or of those traditions the Apostles had delivered to the Churches ; yea , one of those things they had both heard , learned , and received , and seen in Paul , which the Apostle commands them to do , to be exercised in , to hold fast : and this is Pauls exhortation unto Timothy , and that by way of command , 2 Tim. 2. 2. The things thou hast heard of me amongst many witnesses , the same commit thou unto faithful men , that they may be able to teach others also . Now this was one things that Timothy had heard and learned of Paul , and that which he received from him , as is plainly manifest in the 5 Reason . Object . But now whereas some may object , and say , that Pauls laying on his hands upon Timothy was to office : Answ. I answer , that it was not to office , but for the receiving of the promised Spirit ; which promised Spirit God did so pour forth upon Timothy , that he was made according to the Prophecies that went before of him , a good Souldier of Christ , one fit to war in his Kingdome , to be exercised in the work of the Lord , the ministerial office : therefore saith the Apostle , 1 Tim. 1. 18. This charge I commit unto thee , son Timothy , according to the Prophecies that went before of thee , that thou by them mightest War a good warfare . This charge , to wit , that you shall finde in the 3 vers. to be this , that he should charge some , they should preach no other Doctrine : and whereas he saith , according to the Prophesies that went before of thee , that thou by them mightest War a good warfare ; that was those revelations that God manifested unto some of his people ; whereby he discovered Timothy to be one whom he had chosen to the work of the Ministry ; and so by them , that was those Prophesies , the Apostle was assured , that his calling was of God , and that his blessing would accompany him . So that when Paul laid his hands upon him , he received the Holy Spirit , and that in such manner , as that he was fitted abundantly for the work of the Lord ; which when this was manifested , and he had by the people of God , or Church of Christ , a call thereunto ; he was by the laying on of hands of the Eldership or Presbytery , set apart for the work of the Ministry , as you may see , 1 Tim. 4. 14. So that it is plainly manifest , that by the imposition of Pauls hands , Timothy received the Spirit in the gifts thereof , 2 Tim. 1. 6. And by the imposition of the hands of the Eldership , he was separated to the work of the Ministry , according to the Prophesies that went before of him , 1 Tim. 4. 14. 3. We have a command , and that from the Commission the Lord Jesus gave his Disciples , Mat. 28. 20. Teaching them , ( to wit , those that believe , and are Baptised , ) to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you . From whence this truth appears , That if Christ did command the Apostles to lay on hands , they were to teach those whom they should Baptize , to submit thereunto , as the words do plainly manifest , Teaching them to observe . But Christ did command the Apostles to lay on hands . For what they did in any service of Christ unto believers , as such , was by the command or authority of the Lord Jesus ; and therefore say they , 1 Cor. 4. 1. Let a man so account of us , as of the Ministers of Christ , and Stewards of the Mysteries of God : and in the 14 Chap. v. 37. If any man think himself to be a Prophet or Spiritual , let him acknowledge the things I write unto you , are Commandments of the Lord : this was the account they gave of their authority . And it is observable , I never knew that opposer yet of this truth of Christ , that durst affirm the Apostles had no command for laying on of hands . So that I say , if they had a command for laying on of hands , the Observation thereof was taught by them , and is that which God by vertue of his Commission given doth require of us ; for saith Christ , Teaching them , that is , those that are Baptized , to observe all things , whatsoever I have Commanded you . Object . But now some will say , Laying on of hands is not there expressed . Answ. I answer , Though it be not expressed , it is plainly implyed ; for whatsoever the Apostles did teach and practise , was by vertue of their Commission received from Christ . But this they did teach , Heb. 5. 12. and also practise , Acts 8. 17. and 19. 6. and therefore it was by vertue of their Commission , received from Christ : And their very manner of teaching and practising , discovers it to be the mind and Command of God unto believers , as such . 1. Because they taught it , as a first principle , or beginning-Word of Christ unto young believers ; and therefore it 's reckoned up milk for Babes , Heb. 6. 1. & 5. 12. 2. Because they taught it , as a principle of the foundation of the service of Christ , and that as repentance , faith , Baptisme , Resurrection and eternal Iudgement , Heb. 6. 1 , 2. 3. Because they taught it , as that which Christ taught unto them , or gave in charge unto them , as he appointed them to be Stewards of the mysteries of God ; and therefore they witness it the Doctrine or teaching of Christ , Heb. 6. 1. that which they had received from him , even the Lord Jesus Christ . So that from the Commission , doth likewise appear the force also of this obedience ; whereby those that resist the truth , may be left without excuse . Object . But yet some will and do say , The Apostles did lay on hands by vertue of a particular gift which God had given them , to give the Spirit . Answ. The Apostles did never lay on hands by vertue of those particular gifts they had received , but by vertue of their ministerial office : for laying on of hands being an Ordinance of Christ , a way unto believers , as Baptisme , or other of his appointments ; The Apostles did never officiate in them by vertue of any particular gift , neither any other Minister of the Gospel , but by vertue of their ministerial office , as they were called of God to administer in those wayes to his people ; and so did , leaving the effect thereof unto God , &c. Object . But some do say , the Apostles by laying on of hands , did give the Spirit . Answ. First , though this be one of their greatest Objections and Blocks against which they Stumble ; Yet our greatest opposers are herein divided : for though some do affirm , that the Apostles had power to give the Spirit ; yet others of them cannot so believe : and who would think men of such parts and wisdome as they are , should so affirm ; but that indeed the carnal minde of man will ever oppose the things of God ? 2. I answer , and that positively , that the Apostles by laying on of hands , did give the Spirit of God , no more in this Ordinance , then Peter did in the preaching of the Word , Acts 10. 44. While he spake the Word , the Holy Spirit fell on all them that heard it ; and they spake with Tongues , and glorified God . VVhy so it was , that while Peter , Iohn , and Paul were exercised in this Ordinance , even laying on of hands , God gave his Spirit to his people . But alas , what is Peter , Iohn and Paul , but Ministers by whom they believed ? the one may Plant , and the other VVater , but it 's God that must give the increase , 1 Cor. 3. 5 , 6. And surely this , what gifts Christ is pleased to convey through Ministers , is not by any power that is in them , as is plainly discovered from Acts 3. 12. Neither was it ever in the Apostles power , to give the Spirit of promise unto any man ; and so the Apostle plainly declares unto me , in his answer to Simon Magus , who certainly did think , as too many do this day , that the Apostles had power to give the Spirit ; and therefore he offered them mony for that gift or power : the Apostle thereby seeing the corruption of his heart , saith unto him , Thy mony perish with thee , because thou thinkest the gift of God may be obtained with mony , Acts 8. 18 , 19 , 20. 3. Further , take notice , that this power or prerogative of giving the Spirit , the Lord Jesus Christ alwayes keeps in his own hands , & he giveth it to whom he pleaseth , as you may plainly see by these Scriptures , Acts 2. 32 , 33. This Iesus hath God raised up , whereof we are al witnesses ; therefore being by the right hand of God exalted , and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit , he hath shed forth this which you now see and hear . Mark this ; he hath done it , even this Jesus , but not the Apostles . And saith our Saviour , Iohn 14. 16 , 17. I will pray the Father , and he shall give you another Comforter , Even the Spirit of truth : and in the 26 vers. But the Comforter which is the Holy Spirit , whom the Father will send in my Name : the 15. 26. vers. But when the Comforter is come , whom ( saith Christ ) I will send unto you from the Father , Even the Spirit of truth , Luke 11. 13. and Acts 5. 32. saith the Apostle , We are witnesses of these things , and so is the Holy Spirit whom God hath given to them that obey him . By all which places it is plainly manifest , that this power or prerogative of giving the Spirit , the Lord Jesus Christ and God the Father alwayes keep in their own hands , &c. 4. It is further ●anifest , that it was not in the Apostles power to give the Holy Spirit of promise , and that from the administration of the Ordinance , Acts 8. 15. When Peter and John came down to Samaria , they prayed for them , that they might receive the Holy Spirit . VVhich doth discover , it was not in their power to give it ; but they prayed for them , that so indeed God would give it to them , according to his promise . Again , as it is manifest that this power belongs unto the Lord Jesus Christ , he having received of his Father this promise of the Holy Spirit , and so gives it forth upon his people : So likewise we may observe , that he also gives the gifts or operations thereof ; or the Spirit of God doth work and operate in poor Souls , according to his wisdom . For as there are members of the body of Christ , so every member hath it's office given him of God : this the Apostle plainly discovers , 1 Corinth . the 12 Chapter , in the 4. 5 , 6 , 7 , 8 , 9 , 10. saith he , There are diversities of gifts , but the same Spirit ; and there are differences of administrations , but the same Lord ; and there are diversities of operations , but it is the same God , which worketh all in all : but the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every one to profit withall ; for to one is given by the Spirit the Word of wisdome : and so he goes on making mention of the gifts and operations thereof : and in the 18 vers. thus declareth ; But now hath God set the members in the body as it hath pleased him : again saith he in the 27. and 28. vers. Now you are the body of Christ , and members in particular ; and God hath set some in the Church ; first , the Apostles ; secondly , Prophets , &c. From all which , as before , we may minde , that as the Spirit of God is given to every believing obedient Soul , and this by the Lord ; so every ones gift or office likewise proceeds from him . Again , saith the Apostle , Ephes. 4. 7. speaking of the Church ; But unto every one of us is given grace , according to the measure of the gift of Christ . Now if any should say , How would this appear ? the Apostle makes answer , vers. the 8. Because he ascended up on high , he led ( speaking of Christ ) Captivity captive , and gave gifts unto men : and vers. the 11. it 's said , he gave some to be Apostles , and some Prophets and some Evangelists , and some Pastors and Teachers , and this for the good of the body of Christ : and this work of Christ , of giving his Spirit unto men , to be continued so long as the Saints are to be perfected , and the body of Christ to receive edification , as we may plainly see , from the 12. and 13. verses . So that to say , the Apostles had power to give the Holy Spirit , or Spirit of promise , is untrue , absurd and ridiculous . Object . Again , some there are , who make this a great obstacle in the way , ( thereby hindering poor Souls from their obedience , ) even the Words of the Apostle , Acts 8. 16. for as yet he was fallen upon none of them . From whence they perswade themselves , and labour to perswade others , that the Apostles did lay on hands by vertue of a particular gift or power , which God had given them , to give his Spirit . Now for the removing of this stumbling-block , I answer , First , If you consider what hath been spoken to the last Objection , you may plainly see , that the Apostles did not lay on hands by vertue of any particular gift , but of their ministerial office . Neither was it ever in their power to give the Spirit of God to any man , as hath been plainly manifested . 2. Whereas the Apostle saith , for as yet he was falne upon none of them , it discovers to us , that it was an usuall thing in the Apostles dayes , for the Spirit of God to be given , and that in more then an ordinary manner ; and therefore well might Luke thus write this parenthesis , in the discourse of this Ordinance : for as yet he was fallen upon none of them . 3. Again thirdly : VVhereas Luke useth these words , for as yet he was falne upon none of them ; it might very well be taken notice of . For though Philip had wrought great works in the City of Samaria , as in the 6. and 7. verses of this Chapter , Acts 8. insomuch that God bore witness from Heaven to those things that Philip spake , that there was great joy in that City ; and that Simon Magus , who of long time with his Sorceries had bewitched the people , believed and was Baptized ; yet there was no givings forth of the Spirit of God so immediately as at other times : as for instance , when Peter preached the VVord , Acts 10. 44. ( even while he was speaking , ) the Holy Spirit fell on them that heard it . Object . Some do say , Why did not Philip lay hands upon the Samaritans , as well as Baptize them ? and from hence they reason , that though Philip was instrumental for their conversion ; yet Peter and Iohn must lay hands upon them : and so by such reasonings as this , laying on of hands must be laid aside . Answ. First , let us examine ; hath not this reasoning much of this nature in it , to set up Peter , Iohn and Paul , that so indeed we may come to think of them above that which is meet , as if they had power to do that they had not ? but for this , some hath been already reproved , 1 Cor. 1. 12. Now this I say , ( saith the Apostle ) that every one of you say , I am of Paul , and I of Apollo , &c. and in the 3 Chapt. 5 vers. Who is Paul , and who is Apollo ; but Ministers by whom ye believed ? Even as the Lord gave to every man . Oh! that we could therefore , cease from man , whose breath is in his Nostrils , and give glory to God , looking up onely unto him ; who is the giver of every good and perfect gift . 2. May there not be , or is there not already too many , who make as great a noyse to the crying down of Baptisme , as this Objection doth of laying on of hands , & that in regard of Philip , who did work Miracles , and Ananias who had an immediate Commission to Baptize Paul , as well as the Apostles , for what they did ? O say many persons , none but those that were immediately authorized , and did work Miracles , did Baptize ; therefore your Baptisme is not right , because you work no Miracles : and hence they conceive no Baptisme , but the Baptisme of the Spirit , which they think the Apostles gave unto those persons , upon whom they laid on hands . 3. The great thing in Answer unto this question , is , to shew why Philip did not lay hands on those persons whom he converted and Baptized : and now if this Reason , could truly be rendred , something of satisfaction possibly unto many persons would appear . But for my part , though persons are never satisfied , I dare not presume to know above what is written ; and therefore , why he did not lay hands upon those persons he did Baptize , I dare not positively determine . But this I know , and herein is my satisfaction , that the work was done ; and I do believe the Apostles are as good an example , and the thing is of as much weight , ( if not more ) as if Philip had done it . But Oh! what weak reasoning is here , yet concurring with the rest to make voyd the truth . I shall appeal to any mans conscience , whether this be a sufficient ground to keep any soul from the doing of his duty , because he cannot see why Philip did not lay on hands . Surely you or I may suppose many things ; but which of us is able to determine which is truth amongst all ? therefore it is good for us to keep close unto this , that it is Gods way , that wherein the Apostles as Ministers of the Gospel did administer ; and that whereunto believers Baptized as such , were obedient ; that it was taught unto them as milk for Babes , and that it was a principle of Christs Doctrine , a beginning-word of Christ unto believers : and herein let us quiet our selves , not seeking a reason for that the Lord doth not give us ; lest we are carried captive by our carnal imaginations , and so split our selves against the truth , &c. Query . But now some may say , If we practise this Ordinance ; where is the ground for our faith , seeing whatever is not of faith is sin ? Answ. First , in all our Actions , I do grant it is good for us to have a ground for what we do , especially in the service of God , in which service we are to walk by rule . And here I wish that those who walk in mixt Communions , would consider what VVord of God they have to bear them out in that practise , whether ever Christ left such a rule to walk by . But secondly , I answer , The ground of our faith in this Ordinance , is the Word of the Lord , which doth not only as you have heard discover unto us this Ordinance , to be the mind of God unto believers , a way wherein he requires their obedience ; but it likewise discovers the very end of this Ordinance , to be the promise of God ; which promise God first made unto Abraham , as the Apostle bears witness Gal. 3. 14. that the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles , that we might receive the promise of the Spirit , through faith . VVhy we cannot believe without the Spirit ; yet through believing it is , that we are made partakers thereof , even of the promise , which is the Spirit ; which promise God renewed , and more plainly discovered by the Prophet Ioel , Ioel 2. 28 , 29. which the Apostle takes notice of , Acts 2. 16. this was likewise hinted forth by Iohn the Baptist , Mark . 1. 8. I indeed Baptize you with water , but he shall Baptize you with the Holy Spirit : and this our Saviour himself declared , Iohn 7. 38 , 39. He that believeth on me , out of his Belly shall flow Rivers of living Water : this he spake of the Spirit , which they that did believe should receive . Now , as hath been declared , they could not believe without the Spirit ; yet , through believing , the promise of the Spirit is made good unto poor souls . And this promise of the Spirit , the Apostle doth annex unto faith and Baptisme , as the right and portion of every believing obedient soul , Acts 2. 38. Repent and be Baptized for the Remission of sins , and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit . From which Scriptures it is manifest , that the promise of the Spirit is made unto believers Baptized , as such ; and therefore the Apostle in the 39 vers. doth apply it unto believers Baptized , as such , as their right and portion ; For the promise is unto you , and to your Children , and to all that are afar off ; even as many as the Lord our God shall call . Which promise of God in general was the ground of the Apostles assurance of faith in this particular , that God would give his Spirit in this his own appointment to his people . So that a better ground to Act upon in any way or service of God , we cannot have , then the Word and promise of God is . Therefore in the next place , for your incouragement in this Ordinance , consider these few things : obedience to God is , First , that which makes a soul capable of knowing the mind of God : therefore saith our Saviour to the Jews ; If you will do his will , you shall know of the Doctrine . 2. Obedience unto Christ , is that whereby believers do enter friendship with the Lord Jesus Christ ; even as by their profession they do enter battle or wage war , with the greatest Enemy ; Even the Dragon spoken of , in Rev. 12. 17. who is there said to make war with the Woman , and the Remnant of her seed , which keep the commands of God , and have the Testimony of Iesus . Why so I say , they do enter by their obedience unto Christ , the greatest friendship that possible can be in the World , Iohn 15. 14. You are my friends , ( saith Christ ) if you do whatsoever I command you . 3. There is much incouragement to this duty , from the end of this Ordinance . The Spirit of God , is that the soul stands in continual need of ; yea , the usefulness of the Spirit of God , is very much discovered : First , in that it is the Teacher of the Saints , the first Epistle of Iohn 2. 27. But the anointing which you have received of him , abideth in you , and you need not that any man teach you , but as the anointing teacheth you : Why , it is the office of the Holy Spirit , to be the Teacher of Gods people , Iohn 14. 26. But the Comforter , which is the Holy Spirit , whom the Father will send in my Name , he shall teach you all things , and bring all things to your remembrance , whatsoever I have said unto you . Secondly , as he is their Teacher , so he is their Comforter , yea , and their Remembrancer , as in this 26 vers. So likewise he is their Guide , and their Leader , Gal. 5. 18. so he is their strength , Ephes. 3. 16. yea , by the Spirit they have boldness at the Throne of grace , Gal. 4. 6. Because ye are Sons , God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts , crying Abba , Father . So also it is their assistance at the Throne of grace , Rom. 8. 26. saith the Apostle , We know not what to pray for , as we ought ; but the Spirit helpeth our infirmities . Oh! how useful is the Spirit of God , unto poor souls ! it 's a quickning Spirit , and therein also it is very useful : the people of God are apt to deadness and coldness , in the things of God ; therefore saith the Apostle , Rom. 8. 11. But if the Spirit of him that raised up Christ from the dead , dwell in you , he that raised up Christ from the dead , shall quicken your mortal bodyes , by his Spirit that dwelleth in you . Again , it 's by the Spirit , that we must mortifie corruption , the deeds of the body ; as in the 13 vers. Many other particulars may be minded , wherein the usefulness of the Spirit of God doth consist ; therefore let these considerations incourage us , to wait upon God in this his way . 4. We have incouragement to wait upon God in his way , even in this Ordinance , and that from the general promises in the Scripture , Gal. 3. 16. 2 Cor. 1. 20. Luke 11. 13. 5. A fifth ground of incouragement , may be drawn from the Reasons why the Spirit of God is given forth unto poor souls ; and that first , from the souls being in Covenant with the Lord : for among the many precious promises of the new Covenant , this you shall finde to be one , Ezek. 36. 27. I will put my Spirit within you , and cause you to walk in my statutes , and ye shall keep my Judgments , and do them : this Reason , the Apostle also Renders , Gal. 4. 6. Because you are Sons , God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son , &c. Secondly , from souls obedience ; the promise is made unto such , Acts 2. 38. & 5. 32. such as walk in obedience , shall certainly be partakers of the Spirit of promise . 6. Another ground of incouragement I shall mention , may be taken from the Necessity of the Spirits being given with it's gifts and fruits amongst the people of God ; and that may be , 1. Either , first , for the Glory of God , 1 Cor. 12. 3. Iohn 4. 14. Rom. 12. 11. 2. For the general good of the people of God , according to these Scriptures , 1 Cor. 12. 7. The manifestation of the Spirit , is given to every man , to profit withal : and so he goes on , discovering in the 8 , 9 , 10. vers. the several gifts and fruits of the Spirit , from whence proceeds the usefulness of the members of the body of Christ , one unto another ; the Spirit of God dividing to every man severally as he will , as in the 11. vers. So that the Eye cannot say unto the hand , I have no need of thee ; Neither the head to the feet , I have no need of thee , vers. 21. and the Reason is given , vers. 25. that there should be no schisme or division in the body , but that the members should have the same care one of another : read also 14. Chapt. 12 vers. and Ephes. 4. 12. 3. For our particular good and help , according to these Scriptures , Iud. 20. 1 Pet. 1. 22. Gal. 5. 5. and the 16. Therefore now , let these incourage you to make use of that means God hath appointed , even this Ordinance , wherein his people were made partakers of his Spirit . Query . But now some do Question , What grounds we have that practise laying on of hands , to separate from those who are Baptized ? for ( say they ) could you have Communion with us , we could with you . Answ. To which I answer , and that first : Considering the frames of your Spirits , your denial of the truth , calling it error and delusion , a Doctrine from beneath , an invention of the Devil , that which is our own tradition , a post we would set up by the posts of God , that for which we have no better ground then the Common-prayer-book , A new administration , which never was either taught or commanded by Christ in all the new Testament : from hence , I would Query , by what rule of Christ it is , that you could have Communion with us ; and the case being thus , we can any longer Communicate with you ? For my part , I must profess before the Lord , and before the whole World , that , how to satisfie my conscience , and maintain the truth of God , in such Communion , I know not : if I could , I should do it . I know it 's that they reflect upon us , that we want love to them , as the ground why we cannot Communicate with them . But the Lord he is Judge , and he knows that it 's our love to the truth of Christ , and the order he hath prescribed in his house , that will not suffer us ; Especially as the case stands with them , as is before minded . And therefore , if there be any love in them towards us , let us be partakers of those weighty Reasons grounded upon the Word of truth ; which may convince us , that it is our duty still to have Communion with them , notwithstanding their opposition against this truth . Object . But by this some may say , It seems , that if they did not oppose the truth , you could Communicate with them . Answ. I answer , No , for we have no such custome , neither the Churches of Christ : Search the Scriptures , and see if ever Christ left such a rule to walk by , or that God allowed or approved of any such practise . We are glad to hear , where there is any so moderate as not to oppose it ; and it is not burden some to us , to wait upon God in his way , labouring their convincement , and imbracing of the truth ; for it is that which is their duty , as well as Baptisme ; and a part of the foundation of the house of God , as well as repentance and faith : and therefore to build with them , without this principle in the foundation , were to presume to do that , we have no warrant for , and to make a breach in that order God hath appointed , and that in the very foundation of his service . 2. I Answer , that we have good ground to maintain separation from those , though Baptized , that deny this Ordinance of laying on of hands , and that 1. Because we are Commanded to keep the Ordinances , as they were delivered , 2 Thes. 2. 15. Therefore Brethren , standfast , and hold the Traditions which you have been taught , whether by Word , or our Epistle ; and herein were the Corinthians praised by the Apostle , which is also written for our Example , 1 Cor. 11. 2. Now I praise you Brethren , that you remember me in all things , and keep the Ordinances as I delivered them unto you . From whence it is manifest , that to keep the Ordinances as they were delivered , is that which is praise-worthy to the Saints , well pleasing unto God , and the will and minde of God unto his people . But to Communicate with those , that do deny the laying on of hands , will put us out of that capacity ; this our experience doth witness to us . VVe might speak much unto this , & of the opposition we had , when I was in such a condition . 2. Because from those persons , who do not hold the Ordinances as they were delivered , we are commanded to withdraw , 2 Thes. 3. 6. Now we command you Brethren , in the Name of our Lord Iesus Christ , that you withdraw your selves from every Brother that walketh disorderly , and not after the Tradition you have received of us : yea a good ground we have to observe this Command , from their opposition , in that they raile , print , speak , and dispute against the truth , calling it a Doctrine from beneath , a counterfeit thing ; which gives us a good ground to observe the Apostles Exhortation , 1 Tim. 6. 5. From such withdraw thyself : and certainly as we are to withdraw from those , who are evil in their Conversation , so likewise from those , who do declare against that which is part of the worship of God , yea a foundation-principle of his service . 3. Because laying on of hands , is a foundation-Doctrine , a principle upon which a right constituted Church of Christ is built , Heb. 6. 1 , 2. A Doctrine , which was ( not notionally , as many say , but ) practically imbraced by the first Churches ; as the Hebrews , the Samaritans , and the Ephesians , which were exactly built according to the direction of Christ himself . Now this is generally received , that though there may be Communion with persons , where differences are in circumstantials ; yet not where they are in fundamentals : and for this reason , those who are Baptized , have refused Communion with the Independants ; because they erre in a fundamental point , therefore they cannot build with them : and is not this reason strong for us , because laying on of hands is a foundation-Doctrine or principle , as well as Repentance , faith , Baptismes , and Resurrection , and eternal Judgement ? therefore this being a foundation-principle , we ought not to build with those , who are destroyers thereof : and therefore for this Reason , we ought not to Communicate with them . 4. Because they live in the Breach of , and in opposition against a Command of God , Even this beginning-word of Christ ; and so indeed to partake with them , were to make our selves guilty of their sin . Now that they are such , that they do so live , is plainly manifest by their writing , printing , preaching , and disputing ; Thus opposing this Law & oracle of God , Heb. 5. 12. and as they do thus live in the Breach of a Command of God , an oracle , and a principle of Christ Doctrine ; so certain it is , that we cannot have Communion with them , without transgressing the Command of the Spirit of God , where we are exhorted to withdraw from such , 1 Tim. 6. 3 , 4 , 5. 5. Because where there is not an uniting in the principles of the foundation of the service of Christ , there can be no safe or comfortable Communion : for indeed Union is the ground of Communion , Amos 3. 3. Can two walk together , except they are agreed ? and saith our Saviour , Wherein two of you shall agree on Earth as touching any thing that you shall ask , it shall be done for them of my Father which is in Heaven , Mat. 18. 19. from whence it is plain , that where there is no Union , no Agreement , there can be no fellowship , no walking together , no asking the Father for any thing : for consider , how can we ask the Spirit of God to be given , and that according to his promise , with or among them who do oppose the means , to wit , laying on of hands ? it's abomination unto them ; and therefore how can we have Communion with them , or they with us ? Surely , if things were rightly considered , our separating from them will be found upon as good ground , if not better , then their separating from the Independants so called : for wherein do they differ , but in Baptizing ? the practise of Baptisme they deny not , though not rightly performed , nor applyed ; But the practise of laying on of hands upon believers Baptized , as such , is denyed by our opposers . Object . But now some may say , Though I am satisfied , that laying on of hands , is an Ordinance of Christ ; yet they are good men that I have Communion with , such among whom I have found much comfort , therefore I cannot withdraw from them . 1. We may take notice , as this is an Objection made by some amongst the Baptized people , so likewise by some , that are Baptized , who walk with the Independents , so called : O say they ! they are good men , and we walk lovingly together ; therefore we cannot withdraw from them ; not considering that in this , they have no rule of Christ , and that God never gave unto persons such Liberty of loving each other , as that thereby his wayes and truths should be rejected and neglected by them . 2. To the Objection , I answer , that by this thou doest discover , how little thy love is to the Lord Jesus Christ and his wayes , and how low an esteem thou hast of them , that thou preferrest thy love to the Creature , before thy love to thy Creator . It is true , it is that which is thy duty , to love those with whom thou hast Communion , ( yea thy Enemies , ) but in this thy loving of them , thou must know , that thou art to walk according to the Law or rule of Christ towards them ; for thy love towards them , must be subordinate to thy love unto God and his truth : and to this purpose Christ speaks , Mat. 16. Luke 14. 26. that if any man loved Father or Mother more then him , he is not worthy of him ; yea , if a man doth not hate his own life , if once it come in Competition with Christ , or any one of his Laws , that he can rather part with truth , then deny his life , he cannot be Christs Disciple . Thou oughtest to praise thy duty in its place , and to perform it ; but if once it come in Competition with Christ or his truth , that thou must either suffer the truth of Christ to fall , or else be accounted of by some , that thou hast little love in thee towards them ; I say , if thou preferrest thy love towards them before the truth , that notwithstanding Christ calls upon thee to be a follower of him , yet thou wilt not , because it may make a breach in thy love towards them , thou discoverst thy self to have little love in thee towards Christ , and that thou art mistaken in thy right loving of them . For thou canst not better love them , then to be faithful unto God , wherein thou wilt give them a good example ; for that which is thy duty in this particular , ought also to be theirs , if so convinced of the truth , as thou art . Especially in the consideration of this , that there are several persons amongst them , that have Apostatized from this truth and Doctrine of Christ , that have declared for it , and have been obedient unto Christ therein ; but now deny it , and are great opposers of it : which if thou hadst not ground from the Scripture to maintain separation from them , upon any other account , thou couldst not according to order Communicate with them . Object . But say some , I dare not deny them to be a Church of Christ , as they say you do ; and therefore they will charge me , as they have done others , that I do greatly sin in departing from them . 1. I Answer , do thou follow Christ in his Word , according to the form and order appointed by him in his house ; and though they charge thee with departing from them , God will Justifie thee : for it is not their crying , the Temple of Lord , the Temple of the Lord , that will excuse their disobedience , Ier. 7. 4. for when truth is declared , he commands all men to receive it , and therefore when it once comes to thy Soul , he requires thy obedience . For to what end doth God manifest his truth , by any poor Soul , by any of his people ; but that others should be obedient ? consider , was it not ever that , which followed that old principle of confusion , wherewith poor Souls were frighted by them , if possible they could , into that state , wherein both matter and form , subjects and order , were all contrary to the minde of God ? Oh! what a noise and cry did they make after poor Souls , who for conscience towards God did separate from them ? O , say they ! they leave the Church ; and O! what a great evil would they make of this ? thereby possessing the people , as if they had done very wickedly . Not to go for further instance , Was not this the practise of the Bishops and Prelates , and after them the Presbyterians , then the Independants ? and now it is come to be the practise of the Baptized people , whereby it is manifest , that this is but one of the last shifts of a confused principle . When they cannot overturn the truth , they will labour to lay stumbling blocks in the wayes of Gods people . 2. I Answer , though they look upon themselves to be a Church of Christ ; yet thou by the light of truth manifested to thy Soul , doest see , that they are short in a principle of the foundation thereof . Is not the Church of Christ the house of God ? and is not Repentance , faith , Baptismes , laying on of hands , the Resurrection of the dead , and eternal Judgement ; the foundation thereof , see Heb. 6. 1 , 2. what will you say to make void this truth ? will you say , as many do , Christ is the foundation ? but is he any otherwise a foundation then in his Doctrine as he is declared ? and is not this his Doctrine or Teaching ? doth not the Apostle , Heb. 6. 1. call it the Doctrine of Christ ? and is not his Doctrine one with himself ? Surely Christ & his truth are one : & so far as a Soul knows Christ , he will walk in obedience to him : and doth not their disobedience to this way of the Lord , discover the disorder they are in , that indeed they build before the foundation is rightly layed , denying a principle thereof ? 3. Whereas they say , we deny them to be a Church , it is not true ; For we desire not to enter Judgement , in things that are too deep for us . But this is that we have said , and do still say , let them prove themselves a Church of Christ : which if they can so do , we can prove them short in a foundation-principle of the service thereof , and so disorderly . For consider , is it according to the rule of Christ , to admit of persons , though Baptized , to Communion , that shall say of a principle of the foundation , of the service of God , upon which he should stand to go on to perfection , It is a lye , that which Christ never taught , though it be in so many words declared ? Surely such a practise God will never own ; neither dare we , lest he disown us . But here I shall take liberty to write Mr. Colliers own Argument , for the discovering of a true Church of Christ , in the first Page of his book of Right constitution : saith he , A true visible Church of Christ , consisteth both of matter and form , or of subjects and order : for , saith he , it is Christs Kingdome , and those subjects must be such visibly as Christ owns , and that form and order according to Christs Rule ; or else , saith he , it cannot be Christs Church . Surely , if what Mr. Collier writes , and this truth of Christ , to wit , laying on of hands , were rightly weighed , what could he have spoken more against himself , and for us in this case ? therefore let 's try , seeing he hath thus spoken , whether he doth own the form and order of Christs house : which is plainly manifest he doth not ; for in that book , as you may see , from the 70 Page to the end thereof , he opposes a principle of his Doctrine , a part of the foundation of the service of Christ : but I wish the Lord may give him , and others to see this truth of Christ , & that they may be followers of him therein . I shall now conclude , leaving what I have written , to the Judgments of all to whom it shall come , desiring , that they would with the noble Bereans , search the Scriptures , to see if what I have said be so or no ; that they would seriously weigh , as in the sight of God , the things laid down in this discourse , having their Eyes up towards God ; knowing what is written , That they which seek the Lord understand all things , Prov. 28. 5. Further , my desire is , that if in their Consciences they do finde any convictions of the truth herein asserted , they would take heed of opposing of it , and that , lest they be found fighters against God . The End . An ANSWER To a discourse containing 4 Chapters in opposition to this principle of Christs Doctrine , ( to wit ) laying on of hands upon believers Baptized , as such . I Having almost ended my former discourse for the press ; it being a discovery and vindication of the truth ; there was presented to my hands a book ( having no Name thereunto ) consisting of two sheets of paper , put forth , as it doth appear unto me , by several persons in opposition to this Ordinance of the Lord Jesus Christ ( to wit ) laying on of hands upon believers Baptized , as such . To which , as the Lord shall help me , ( with as much soberness and moderation , taking as little notice as possible I can , of their reproachful speeches of us , and of the truth ) according to the measure I have received , ( having this opportunity ) give a brief answer thereunto , hoping it may more tend to the Conviction of persons , it being particularly answered ; although the substance thereof is already answered in my book : likewise not doubting , but that other Servants of Christ , who may be more able , will , as God shall give opportunity , more fully vindicate his truth from the opposers thereof . Their book , as I have already said , doth consist of 4 Chapters . First , of the several ends of laying on of hands . 2. What laying on of hands is not , and cannot be meant , Heb. 6. 2 vers. 3. What laying on of hands is , and must be meant there . 4. That the laying on of hands practised by some in these dayes , on all Baptized believers , was never Instituted , Commanded , nor practised at all by Jesus Christ or his Apostles , in all the New Testament . Now their first Chapter contains , ( according to their Judgement , ) the several ends of laying on of hands ; and they are three . 1. For healing of the sick . 2. For ministring or giving the Extraordinary gifts of the Holy Spirit . 3. For ordaining and appointing of Officers . Unto the first and last of these , I shall not now speak ; having spoken my Judgement and Conscience of them , in the beginning of my book , which I do hope , is according unto truth . And therefore shall now take a little notice of what is written , as to the other particular ; desiring the Reader to consider of what I have written to the other two , in the beginning of my book . And now whereas they lay down , and thereby would affirm , that laying on of hands was for giving the Extraordinary gifts of the Holy Spirit ; and for the proof of this , they say that Peter and Iohn , to this end , laid their hands upon them at Samaria , Acts 8. 17 , 18 , 19. I answer , first , that the end of this Ordinance is missed by the Author or Authors of this book : for the end of this Ordinance is the promised Spirit , which God will give to all those , who from the heart obey his Doctrine , are followers of his teaching : for the gift of the Spirit is the promise of God to all those who do obey him , Acts 2. 38 , & 5. 32 vers. which promise of the Spirit is the end of this Ordinance ; which end also was assigned thereunto , see Acts 8. 15. and to which end the Apostles did administer it , that those persons , to wit , beleevers , who by their obedience were under this promise of God , might receive it of God , whose gift this was , and who alone , not the Apostles , did communicate it unto his people , as these Scriptures do witness , Ephes. 4. 6. Acts 5. 32. & 2. 33. Mat. 3. 11. Iohn 14. 16 , 17. & 15. 26. & 16. 7. 2. I Answer , that the giving the Extraordinary gifts of the Spirit , was never propounded as an end of laying on of hands ; neither can our opposers prove it , that persons by the submission to this Ordinance should be partakers of the miraculous gifts of the Holy Spirit , or that persons were to expect this or that particular gift thereof ; but that as before , they might be partaker of the Spirit of promise ; that whereas now they were to joyne themselves , according to their profession , with the body of Christ ; so they might Act in the body , according to the will of God . Object . But now some may say , By laying on of hands , they received the Holy Spirit , in an Extraordinary manner . Answ. That they did receive the Holy Spirit in more then an ordinary manner , by laying on of hands , I do grant : but that the Extraordinary gifts of the Holy Spirit is the end of this Ordinance , I do deny . For did they receive the Holy Spirit , in a more then ordinary manner , through this Ordinance ? Acts 19. 6. So they did through the preaching of the Word , Acts 10. 44. yea , and through prayer , Acts 4. 31. which if considered , we shall finde the Extraordinary gifts of the Holy Spirit , to be the end no more of laying on of hands , then of preaching the Word and Prayer : they may be an effect or fruit of each of them , but not the end : for poor Souls , by their obedience unto Christ , are made partakers of the Spirit of promise , which is the Producer of such effects , or fruits in them . 3. We may observe , that the foundation of this discourse being missed , and in the first place , that which is untrue affirmed , ( to wit , that laying on of hands was for giving the Extraordinary gifts of the Spirit , ) it 's no marvail they should run themselves into so many mistaken understandings of those that practise it , and the hard Censures they put upon them , with their Erronious Judgments about this truth , which I pray God forgive them , for they know not what they do : and so I might put an end to their first Chapter ; only I shall take a little notice of the weight of those Reasons which they bring to prove , that the end of this Ordinance is the miraculous gifts of the Holy Spirit . And their great Reason is , because the Samaritans , Acts the 8. were such as did believe , vers. 12. and did receive the Word of God , vers. 14. and were Baptized , vers. 16. all this , say they , could not be , unless they had already received the ordinary measures of the Spirit . Answ. First , I cannot but take notice , how this Reason doth hold forth , that there is no receiving of the Holy Spirit by that Soul , who is already Partaker of the Spirit , but what is in an Extraordinary manner ; which how false this is , I shall leave to the Experience of believers to prove , yea , to the Raisers of this Reason , if so be they have the Spirit of God . 2. VVhereas they say , we cannot believe without the Spirit ; I Answer , that unto those who do believe , who receive the VVord of God , and are Baptized , is the promise of the Spirit made : see Galat. 3. 14. that the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles , that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith . VVhy , we cannot believe without the Spirit ; yet , through believing , those that do believe , are made partakers of the promise thereof : see likewise Iohn 7. 38 , 39. saith our Saviour , he that believeth on me , out of his belly shall flow Rivers of living water ; this he spake of the Spirit , which they that did believe should receive : from whence I might Reason as before . But further , we may observe , that this promise of the Spirit the Apostle doth annex unto faith and Baptisme , Acts 2. 38. where saith the Apostle , Repent and be Baptized for the Remission of sins , and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit . Query . Now I would Query of you , was this promise proper onely to some believers , or all believers ? if you say , To some , as your principle must lead you to ; for you must either tye it to some in the Apostles times , or else to the time of the first Apostles , who received the Word at the mouth of Christ , to give unto us : then I Answer , Answ. The following words may stop your mouths : for the promise hath a larger extent then you dream of ; it was unto them , and their Children , and all that are afar of , even to as many as the Lord our God shall call . From whence I minde , the promise of the Spirit is as much ours , ( according to the wise disposing of God , ) who knows best in what manner to bestow it on his people , as it was theirs . And whereas you boast of parts and gifts , beyond those that have practised this Ordinance ; yet let me tell you , that herein is much vanity , and your boasting is not good . For though God injoyne us to the use of Ordinances , yet himself is not tyed thereunto : therefore if your gifts be greater , learn to make a right use of them , for Gods glory , and his peoples comfort , and not to oppose the truth . Surely , there will be one day a sad account given of the gifts God hath given unto men , who will be found , that in stead of making a right and good improvement of them , for Gods glory , and his peoples comfort and incouragement ; they have made a contrary use of them , and that to their trouble and discouragement , and with their lyes have made the hearts of the righteous sad , Ezek. 13. 22. I do believe , there were in the Apostles dayes , those that boasted as much of gifts as your selves , which caused a disesteem of the Apostles among the Churches , 1 Cor. 4. 10. saith the Apostle Paul , ( speaking of himself and of Apollo , who were Apostles of Christ , as you may see , comparing the 6 vers. with the 9. & 10 vers. ) We are fools for Christs sake , but you are wise in Christ ; we are weak , but you are strong ; you are honourable , but we are despised . So others , they had a Name to live , and others they said they were Rich , and had need of nothing ; but God had a reckoning with them , Rev. 3. 1 , 2 , 3. and the 16. and 17. verses . So there is in this our day , those who are great opposers of some truths you your selves profess , and yet in parts and gifts not inferior unto you ; but alas , what Reasoning is this ? the learned Scribes and Pharisees in Christs time , cryed out , Ioh. 7. 49. those that knew not the Law were cursed ; as if indeed wisdome must only centre in their brests , or dy with them . Now hath not your boasting of gifts , something of this nature in it , to beget a disesteem in believers hearts of this truth ? spiritual gifts are such things believers should covet after , for they are very useful , 1 Cor. 14. 1. But surely this parts and gifts without wisdome , which is profitable to direct to make a right and good use of them , doth but puff up the soul , as is too apparent this day . Therefore our desire is , not so much to minde the measure of receiving , as making a good use of what we do receive , and keeping close to the appointments of our God , wherein is our safety ; because he hath there promised his presence , and will there give forth his loves , Esa. 64. 5. Cant. 7. 12. So that I hope those that have not their hearts prejudiced against this truth of Christ , may plainly see your mistake , in making that the end of this Ordinance which is not , though it may be an effect or fruit thereof , as I have already proved it was likewise an effect or fruit of other Ordinances of Christ , as of Preaching and Prayer . But let 's further consider , is not this a wile whereby Satan labours to make void this truth of Christ , as he hath done to others ? thus cunningly he works , when Baptisme , as to the right subjects and practise thereof , is found out : O , saith he , it is to believers and their Children ; and why ? for circumcision was to Abraham and his seed : and thus would keep up that old relick and Pillar of Babylon , and that practise which from the beginning it was not so : Neither is now , blessed be God , the mystery of Iniquity so secret , But that God hath abundantly discovered her , and made bare the skirts thereof ; and it is now through the good hand of God plainly discovered , that there is now no seed of Abraham according to the flesh , but the natural Jews , who are beloved for their Fathers sake ; yet have no right to promise or Ordinances , without believing in our Lord Jesus Christ , until the Word of God be fulfilled , that is , the time expired , that the fulness of the Gentiles being come in , then all Israel shall be saved ; according as it is written , Rom. 11. Chapt. There are other reasons , which they do urge , though to as little purpose ; but the substance of them being answered in this , and fully confuted in my book ; I shall passe them over , and proceed to their second Chapter ; Which doth contain ( according to their Judgments , ) which of those laying on of hands is not , and cannot be meant , Heb. 6. 2. Now before you resolve this Question , you grant that a laying on of hands is a principle of Religion , and a part of the foundation of Christian building , Heb. 5. 12. & 6. 1 , 2. And your Reason is , because the Holy Spirit by this Penman , doth Reckon it amongst those principles of Religion , as repentance , faith , Baptisme , the Resurrection , and eternal Judgment ; and these granted by all under the least profession of Christianity , to be the foundation-Doctrines . I have thought good to minde your Reason , because it doth fully prove laying on of hands to be a principle of Religion , and a part of the foundation of Christian building . And therefore in the first place , it is well that the Word of the Lord hath so much weight upon you , that you dare not deny it ; but that you do confess it to be a foundation-principle , a part of the foundation of Christian building . I am glad to see you thus far own the truth ; which makes me hope , you may in time come to a fuller acknowledgement thereof , and to see wherein you are mistaken ; and that when your demises and denials will be found too light , being weighed in the Balance of the Sanctuary . 2. I shall examine , which of those laying on of hands , you say is not , and cannot be that meant , Heb. 6. 2. And first , you say it cannot be meant , of laying on hands for healing ; and that for these Reasons . 1. Because the gift of healing , by laying on of hands , is now ceased . But you might better have answered , because this laying on of hands was never laid down a foundation-principle : and this is that , which if you please may be work for you , or others , who are more of that minde then you are , to make appear , that ever it was so laid down , as a foundation-principle . As for laying on of hands for healing , I do grant , that no one ought to do , unless he is partaker of that gift of healing , and so your second Reason is very true . 2. Because a foundation-principle concerns the whole , every part of the building , to support and uphold it . And therefore I say , if there were any that had this particular gift of faith , the healing of one particular member could not concern the whole body as a principle . How doth this confute Mr Harrisons Arguments in the 8 page of his book , which he draws from Mark 16. and the 18 v. that laying on of hands for healing is the principle mentioned Heb. 6. 2. but that book of his was fully answered by Mr Griffith . 3. I would have you know , that this was not the way those that did believe , and were Baptized , did wait upon Christ in for healing : for amongst them , as a Church , miracles were not wrought , but for the conviction of unbelievers , 1 Cor. 14. 22. For signs were not for those , who did believe , but for those that believed not : But the way of God for believers , to wait upon him in , in the time of sickness , was prayer and anointing with Oile , as in the beginning of my book I have discovered . But secondly , you say , that laying on of hands for giving the Extraordinary gifts of the Holy Spirit , cannot be here meant , and that for these Reasons : 1. Because the power of giving the Extraordinary gifts of the Holy Spirit is now ceased . 2. Because this laying on of hands cannot be the principle , Heb. 6. because that laying on of hands is there called a Doctrine , vers. 1. and 2. 3. Because if this laying on of hands , ( to wit ) upon believers Baptized , as such , were the principle ; then this Church of the Hebrews , the first constituted Church of Christ in all the New Testament after Christs Ascention , which is ( say you ) the same with that , in Acts the first and second Chapters , had wanted a principle in Religion ; which were very absurd to Imagine . These be your Reasons , that the laying on of hands we practise , cannot be that meant , Heb. 6. 2. Unto these Reasons , as the Lord shall help me , I shall particularly give answer . First , taking notice that here is still affirmed , that which never will be proved , but is already disproved , that laying on of hands was only for the giving the Miraculous gifts of the Holy Spirit ; Therefore I say , as I have made to appear , the giving of the Extraordinary gifts of the Holy Spirit , was never assigned the end of this Ordinance . But you say , the power of giving the Holy Spirit in the Extraordinary gifts thereof , is now ceased . 1. To which I answer , first , if the Apostles had power to give the Holy Spirit , through laying on of hands , then they had through the preaching of the Word ; but though through their preaching the Word , the Holy Spirit was given , Acts 10. 44. as well as through laying on of hands , Acts 19. 6. yet it was never in the Apostles power , to bestow it upon any , as is Ignorantly imagined , and as I have already made to appear ; and therefore so to think , were absurd and ridiculous : for it is the gift of God , Acts 5. 32. and Acts 8. 20. 2. I answer , you do much mistake your selves , for the power of giving the Holy Spirit , is not ceased , for Gods hand is not shortened , he is the same yesterday , to day , and for ever : he that is unchangeable , is the giver thereof ; the Lord Jesus received of his Father this promise , and this promise he hath given , and doth give , and will yet make good unto his people , Ezech. 39. 29. Acts 2. 38 , 39. But to strengthen your Reason , you say that this appears to be ceased , by the practise thereof at this day : for though so many persons have hands laid upon them to this end , yet those Extraordinary gifts have never followed to any one of them ; but both they and the administrators are , and remain as other men . Answ. First , minde your absurdity : the power is not ceased , God is the same . 2. Whereas you say , we practise it to this end ; I answer , That here again you are mistaken , though in your last Chapter you are pleased to say , that some of us do so ; which is that I never yet heard to be the Judgment of any in this practise , and therefore I suppose you wrong us . 3. But you say , For all this practise , we remain as other men . I answer , It is very true , but we may easily see your sore , which I wish the Lord may heal among you , and that is this ; if you could see a sign or a wonder , you would believe : But take heed you may not be as unworthy of it , as the generation unto whom Christ spake , Mat. 12. 38 , 39. & 16 , 1 , 2 , 3. and 4. For my self , it was my Judgment and practise in this way of God , that I ought to be obedient , not for what I should receive , but because the Lord Jesus taught and left such a way for believers to wait upon him in . Yet I would have you know , I did never yeeld obedience unto Christ in any of his wayes , but I did indeavour to exercise faith upon him therein , and that for his presence and blessing with me in them : and this I must tell you , that it is a rotten-principle , and that which God will never approve of , for any one to yeild obedience to him , meerly because they shall receive such or such a gift from him . And I wish this may not be an evil of many Professours in this our day ; not only those , who have been in our practise , but in yours also ; who have upon such grounds submitted , propounding such or such benefits to themselves : then missing of their ends , they have been offended , and so have rejected the Word of the Lord , and the good wayes of God . Alas , we may say , when we have done all , we are unprofitable Servants , and having done the whole will of God , we have need of patience . We do confess we are weak , and possible may come under that reproof the Apostle gives the Hebrew Church , ( who were under this principle of Christs Doctrine , as well as we , ) that for the time we might have been Teachers ; yet we have need to be taught again : but this is our Comfort , that God doth in any measure accept of us ; and though we have but a little strength , yet it 's our duty to hold fast the Word of the Lord ; and in so doing , we are confident he will approve of us , Rev. 3. 8 , 9 , 10. But this we know , that the people of God , though never so much indued with his wisdome , were still fools in the wise Worlds account , as possible we may be in your eyes : and though we are so accounted by you , yet learn to know , that God makes use of foolish instruments . And therefore farther to this , I may say , that what God bestows upon us in this , or any of his wayes , It is our duty to be thankful to him for : and if we can learn this lesson , to make a right use of what we have received , we may be confident of receiving more from God . Likewise to call this a principle , ( to wit , laying on of hands upon believers Baptized , as such ) is not to grant , as you say , that one of the foundation-stones is now lost ; but is indeed again restored , and that to it's right use , which hath been for a long season in a wrong manner applyed , and now by you wholly rejected . Your second Reason is , that this laying on of hands cannot be the principle , because this laying on of hands is there called a Doctrine ; but that laying on of hands to give the Holy Spirit , was never once taught in all the New Testament , no not by them that practised it . I answer , first , taking notice that the opposers of this truth of Christ agree not ; for Mr Harrison in his Touch-stone , as he calls it , of this truth , affirms the laying on of hands , in Heb. 6. 2. to be meant upon persons for healing , which is the laying on of hands spoken of and promised , in Mark 16. 18. vers. and Mr Kiffin , he affirmed in his dispute with Doctor Chamberlain , that laying on of hands , in Acts 8. and Acts 19. 6. is not a Doctrine practicable to all Saints ; but was dispensed for the confirmation of the Gospel : and this is Mr Per●yes Judgement , as you may see in the 19 page of his book ; and so they understand Heb. 6. 2. vers. to hold forth : so that the one holds forth laying on of hands for healing , to be the foundation-principle , Heb. 6. 2. and the other two , to be for the Confirmation of the Gospel , and so a foundation-principle , as minded to the Hebrews . But now as Mr. Harrison and Mr. Kiffin differ each from other ; so do these differ likewise from them : for say they , laying on of hands here , in Heb. 6. 2. was upon persons to office . All which , as you have heard , and may plainly see , comparing Spiritual things together , are untrue ; but more of this in the next Chapter . 2. You say , this laying on of hands ( to wit , upon believers as such ) cannot be the principle , and that because the laying on of hands , in Heb. 6. 1 , 2. is there called a Doctrine ; which laying on of hands , you minde was upon persons to office . Answ. I do grant , that laying on of hands upon persons to office , is the Doctrine or Teaching of Christ , his will and minde unto his people ; wherein they ought , as they have occasion , to be exercised , & that for the good of the body of Christ : But I do deny it , according to the answers already given in my book ; and yet shall minde unto this , in the 3 Chapt. that laying on of hands upon persons to office , was ever laid down a foundation-principle ; Neither is it your Reasons in your 3 Chapt. that will make it so to appear , and therefore cannot be that meant , Heb. 6. 2. 3. You say , the laying on of hands upon believers as such , for the receiving of the Spirit , was never once taught in all the New Testament ; no not by them that practised it . Answ. First , that the Apostles did teach this unto believers as such , see the second Reason or ground , in my book , laid down for the proof of this truth of Christ , which you may take notice of for the Confutation of this Assertion . 2. I answer further , that this were very strange , that the Apostles should administer in this way unto believers , whereunto believers as such were obedient , ( as I have sufficiently proved , ) and yet this way or practise by the Apostles was never taught them ; they not once ( say you ) taught or instructed thereunto : what may we gather from this Teaching of yours ? why surely this , that there were some wayes , wherein the Apostles did administer , and whereunto believers as such were obedient ; wherein they knew their duty , and the Apostles meanings , without their Teaching . O! that you might see your weakness in this your striving against truth . 3. That the Apostles did administer unto believers in this way , and that this practise of theirs believers were obedient to , I think you dare not deny . Now this being that as hath been plainly manifested to be the teaching , not onely of the Apoles , but of Christ himself , from whom they received their authority for what they did ; then this being so , for you to affirm the Apostles never taught this unto believers , Now what is this , but to put a lie upon the Spirit of God , and lay a stumbling block in the wayes of his people ? 4. Let 's minde further , was this Ordinance performed without prayer ? Acts 8. 15. they prayed for them , that they might receive the Holy Spirit . Now were these believers at Samaria in the Expectation and practise of that the Apostles never taught them ? Surely , you have cause to be humbled for this your wresting of , and deceitful dealing with the Word of the Lord . Again , herein you may see , what confusion God leaves you to , who are opposers of this truth : for Mr. Kiffin , he affirms in his dispute with Doctor Chamberlain , that though it were a principle and Doctrine of Christ , ( to wit , laying on of hands upon believers , ) yet ought not to be practised ; but you deny it to be either principle or Doctrine . Surely by this we may see , that Satan will leave no stone unturned , if possible he can overturn the truth . Your third Reason is , because if this laying on of hands ( to wit , upon believers Baptized as such ) were the foundation-principle , then this very Church of the Hebrews , the first constituted Church in the New Testament after Christs Ascension , ( this Church being the same with that , Acts 1. and 2 Chapt. ) had wanted a principle in Religion ; which were very absurd to imagine ; for they had not laying on of hands to this end , Acts the 8. being the first place , that ever this was practised : and surely in all matters about worship , the written word must be our Rule , and to the Scriptures silence we must give consent , according to the Proverb : where God hath not a Mouth to speak , we must not have an ear to hear . To which long discourse or Reason of yours , whereby the truth is evaded , and something Eclipsed , I answer , that this Church of Christ did wait upon God in this way , contrary to what you have spoken : and this I do affirm : for if they continued in the Apostles Doctrine , then in this practise ; it being that the Apostles did teach , ( as before is plainly discovered in the second Reason ; laid down in my book , for the proof of this truth , likewise in the answer there to an Objection , ) but they did continue in the Apostles Doctrine , Acts 2. 42. therefore in their obedience to this truth : read the 41. and 42 verses . And therefore , Acts 8. was not the first place that ever it was practised ; Neither were they in Acts 2. without this principle in Religion ; for as I have said , how should they continue in the Apostles Doctrine , and yet short in the principles thereof ? and therefore the minde of God being thus declared , it plainly discovers his mouth speaking to you , and that your ears should be obedient . But you proceed further , and say , they had not laying on of hands to this end , because they received the Extraordinary gifts of the Holy Spirit without it . I answer , first taking notice you say , that those in Acts the 1. and 2. were not under it but : this , as before , is false : but if your saying were true , that they were not under it , then I pray you , to what end did they receive it ? why , surely by your Reason they did not receive it . Yet you say , they had not laying on of hands to this end , because they received the Extraordinary gifts of the Holy Spirit without it ; and so instance Acts 2. 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5. vers. To which I answer , they that are there said to receive the Holy Spirit , were under the promise thereof , without any more Baptizing with water : this was the promise , and the Command of Christ unto them , Luke 24. 49 , 50. Behold , I will send the promise of my Father upon you : but tarry ye at Ierusalem , until you be indued with power from on high : and He led them out , as far as to Bethany , and lift up his hands and blessed them : and Acts 1. 5. ( saith Christ to his Disciples , ) John truly Baptized with water , but you shall be Baptized with the Holy Spirit , not many dayes hence : see vers. the 4. Now though it were thus with the Apostles , and those who were immediately under this promise ; yet I do affirm , that those three thousand , who are in Acts 2. 41. and 42. vers. there said gladly to receive the Word , and to be Baptized , and were added to this Church , were under this practise ; and that , 1. Because they ( two wit , those spoken of in the 41. and 42. vers. ) were not immediately under the promise , ( as those spoken of in the 2 , 3 , 4. and 5 vers. ) but I may say conditionally , as the Apostle saith vers. 38. and 39. Repent and be Baptized for the Remission of sins , and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit : for ( saith he ) the promise is to you , and to your children , and to all that are afar off , even to as many as the Lord our God shall call ; where you may see , he doth annex the end of this Ordinance , ( to wit ) the promised Spirit , unto faith and Baptisme . 2. If the Apostles did not teach laying on of hands unto these Jews , Acts 2. 41. they had been defective in a principle of Christs Doctrine , of what Christ taught unto them , as Heb. 6. 1. But the Apostles did teach laying on of hands to these Jews , as Heb. 5. and 12. compared with the 6. 1 , 2. vers. doth manifest ; and therefore were not defective in Christs Doctrine : which Hebrews by your own confession , were the Jews spoken of , in Acts 2. Now I would query of you , whether you will still affirm , ( upon due consideration of this also ) That the Apostle Peter , having told the Jews , in Acts 2. 38. that God would make good this promise of giving his Spirit unto them , upon their obedience unto him , whether you will still affirm , that he did not Act in the same manner , for their being made partakers thereof , as he did with those at Samaria , Acts 8. or as Paul did with those at Ephesus , Acts 19. or upon Timothy at Derbe or Lystra , as in my book I have minded . Surely , I think , upon due consideration , you dare not so affirm ; Neither deny what I have written , and herein queryed , to be truth . So that it doth appear in the conclusion of the Examination of your second Chapt. that you are mistaken in the laying on of hands , which , say you , is not and cannot be meant , Heb. 6. 2. Your 3. Chapter contains , according to your mistaken Judgement , what laying on of hands is and must be meant , Heb. 6. 2. And therefore you begin : For the better resolving of this Question , we must take notice , that it is laying on of hands here in the singular Number ; therefore can be but one laying on of hands , that is called here a principle ; and not more , as some would have it ; for then it should be layings on of hands in the plural Number . These are all your own Words , which I do the rather cite , because I do own them to be words of truth : but I pray you , who would have it in the plural Number ? why surely your selves ; and therefore take notice , that herein you are also divided , and agree not in crucifying of the truth ; see the 7 Page of Mr Harrisons Touchstone . But now , say you , this being considered , we must remember what went before , that it is not laying on of hands for healing , nor for giving the Extraordinary gifts of the Holy Spirit . I Answer , that it was not for healing , I have before proved ; and your labour in the proof of this , might have been spared , unless it had been by any of us affirmed : But that it was for the giving of the gift of the Spirit , do affirm : for the gift of the Spirit is the promise of God unto believers Baptized , as such , Acts 2. 38. Now whereas you would have the Extraordinary gifts of the Holy Spirit , to be the end of this Ordinance you are still mistaken , as I have already made to appear , that it is the end no more of this ordinance , then of the preaching of the word and prayer : it may be an effect of them , or a fruit of the Spirit of God , being given therein ; but the proper end of neither of them . But say you , laying on of hands , in Heb. 6. 2. must be meant for the ordaining of officers : and this you labour to make appear by several Arguments . 1. Say you , it must be laying on of hands for healing the sick , or for giving the Extraordinary gifts of the Holy Spirit , or for ordaining of officers ; but neither for healing the sick , nor for giving the Extraordinary gifts of the Holy Spirit ; therefore for ordaining of officers . Answ. Your first proposition I do grant , ( considering what I have spoken ; wherein you have missed the right end of laying on of hands , which is the foundation-principle , ) for not the Extraordinary gifts of the Spirit , but the Spirit it self is the end of this Ordinance . This considered , I do grant , that one of those 3. laying on of hands , is the foundation-principle ; yet if there be but 3 ends of laying on of hands in the Scripture , then why did any of you query about that wicked laying on of hands in Luke 21. 12. vers. as you may see Mr. Griffith takes notice thereof in the 38 Page of his book of the 6 principles . Now to your second proposition : say you , it is neither for healing the sick , nor for giving the Holy Spirit ; hath been already proved in your second Chapter . To which I answer , that it was not for healing the sick , I have already granted . But that it was for the giving of the Holy Spirit , I have as you may plainly see , in my Exposition of your second Chapt. plainly discovered ; and therefore your conclusion proves false , that it must be for appointing of officers . 2. Your second Argument , that laying on of hands upon officers , must be here meant ; because laying on of hands , Heb. 6. 1. is called a Doctrine , and therefore must be a laying on of hands , which is somewhere else taught ; but the other laying on of hands was never once taught . Answ. I have fully answered this Argument , as may be plainly seen in my Answer to your second Reason , in your second Chapter ; to which I shall for the confutation of this Argument refer you . But only thus much , I would further minde you , that this laying on of hands upon believers , as such , was the Doctrine of Christ , Heb. 6. 1. The Word or Oracle of God , Heb. 1. 12. vers. and that for this Reason ; because God did bear witness to it by his Spirit , Acts 8. 17. & 19. 6. which if compared with Heb. 2. 4. is plainly discovered , that what God did bear witness to by the gift of his Spirit , was confirmed to be the Word of Christ , which must not be neglected , as in the 2. 3. vers. Further , to answer a query ( of your own making ) you seek to resolve , at the heels of your Argument : I shall propound this Query . Query . Whether persons ignorance of laying on of hands , be a sufficient ground to deny any one the administration of Baptisme . To which I answer , No ; and that for this Reason : Because we do suppose young Professors to be Ignorant ; and therefore if any one doth propose himself for obedience unto Christ , and that in Baptisme , he is to be Baptized and instructed ; according to the Commission our Saviour gives , Mat. 28. 19. and 20. Teaching them , ( to wit , those that are Baptized ) to observe all things , &c. But if any after they be Baptized and Instructed , shall refuse submission to other of the Commands of Christ , either through ignorance or obstinacy , they are not to be Communicated with , but to be sharply reproved . And therefore whereas you say , it is sore against our wills , if we may not suddenly lay hands on those we do Baptize ; if by the Word suddenly , you do minde a time for persons to be instructed , that you do allow of Instruction to come between their being Baptized , and having hands laid upon them , then we do grant it ; for there is no soul , that desires to follow Christ , But is our desire , they should receive and walk in obedience to the whole Doctrine of Christ . Further , I cannot but take notice , how confident you are that laying on of hands to office , in Acts 13. 23. was injoyned and Commanded by the Holy Spirit , and that the laying on of hands upon believers , was never in the least commanded by the Holy Spirit . Answ. Surely , It is not there said so , and therefore you do but suppose it to be so ; for is there any Command expressed in those verses , for that practise ? I grant there is Example , which is of weight , and ought to be followed : But whereas you say , we have no Command for the laying on of hands upon believers ; Surely , if such a Command as here you bring , would have served you , your mouths had been long before this stopped ; for is there not as much command from the Apostles practise in these Scriptures , Acts 8. 17. and 19. 6. as there is for what you affirm , from Acts 13. 3. But this know , for what I now plead , we have Command as well as Example , as is fully discovered in answer to this Objection made by you , ( to wit , ) that we have no command for laying on of hands upon believers Baptized as such . 3. Your third Argument , because this laying on of hands , ( to wit ) on officers , this Church of the Hebrews had practised amongst them , Act. 6. 6. they laid their hands upon the Deacons to assign them to office ; but none of the other laying on of hands was practised amongst them , that you finde . I Answer first , to the first part of your Argument : that this laying on of hands ( to wit , upon officers ) was practised in this Church of the Hebrews , I do grant , and so ought to be the practise of all Churches in this matter of appointing officers ; it being the way and order of God in his house , according as they shall finde occasion thereof . But that this laying on of hands was ever laid down the foundation-principle in Heb. 6. 2. I do deny : 1. Because laying on of hands in Acts 6. 6. was ( as I have minded in my book ) upon particular men , who were set a part for particular offices , and that for the good of the Church of Christ ; this was not to Babes , but strong men : but the Apostle reckons up the Hebrews Babes , Heb. 5. 12 , 13. but these were strong men , who were fit to be imployed in the work of the Ministry , such as the Apostle speaks of in Heb. 5. 14. Who by Reason of use , had their sences exercised to discern both good and evil . Such who were gone beyond those spoken of in the 12. and 13 vers. being in a Capacity of Teaching others , and therefore this laying on of hands cannot be that meant , Heb. 6. 2. But we may safely conclude , that laying on of hands upon believers , for the receiving of the Holy Spirit , may be here meant , and that for these Reasons . 1. Because every Babe is capable thereof ; which they are not of the former . 2. Because every Babe hath need thereof ; which he hath not of the former . 3. Because we finde Babes in the practise thereof , Acts 8. 17. Acts 19. 6. yea , the Hebrews , when Babes , were in this practise ; they learnt it in that condition , Heb. 5. 12 , 13. 2. Because officers are not for the being , but the well-being of a Church of Christ . When things are not in such a Capacity , as in their beginning , to watch over one another ; then they are to consider of some amongst themselves , according to their wisdome , ( who are faithful ) into whose hands , in the Name of Christ , they give authority , committing the Charge of the house of God unto them . Also we finde the foundation of the service of God laid , and a house unto God built , before there were officers chosen amongst them , as these Scriptures do witness , Acts 13. 1 , 2 , 3 , 4. Chapt. 14. 23. Tit. 1. 5. And therefore , laying on of hands upon persons to office , is not the foundation-principle minded in Heb. 6. 2. To the second part of your proposition , whereas you say , that none of the other laying on of hands was practised amongst them : this is false ; for the contrary hath been already proved , that the Jews in Acts the 2. were under it ; yea , they were in the practise thereof , as it was milk for Babes , Heb. 5. 12. so that , ( as your former Arguments did not , ) neither doth this prove the laying on of hands upon persons to office , to be the foundation-principle , Heb. 6. 2. verse . 4. Your fourth Argument is this . Because this laying on of hands ( to wit ) upon officers , onely remains in force ; the other two not capable to be practised , nor have been for many hundred of years . 1. Whereas you say , this laying on of hands , ( to wit , upon officers ) only remains to be practised : To which I answer , you are herein mistaken ; For , as hath been already manifest , laying on of hands upon believers as such , being an Ordinance of Christ , is still in force for their obedience , and therefore capable to be practised . 2. Whereas you say , that this laying on of hands upon believers as such , hath not been capable of practise for many hundred of years ; I Answer , it is very true ; but let 's consider what 's the Reason that this Ordinance of Christ was not capable to be practised , is not the same why other Ordinances of Christ were uncapable of practise ; was it not because of that confusion , or Mystery of Iniquity , that hath long reigned , and doth to this day ? 3. I answer , if the promise of God , which is the end of this Ordinance ( to wit , laying on of hands upon believers as such , ) be now made good upon his people , then they are capable of this Ordinance . But the promise of God is still made good unto his people , Acts 2. 38. it being made unto them : for Christ is the same Yesterday , to day , and for ever ; and his Word , yea and Amen . Likewise this Ordinance was the way or means through which God made good his promise , as is plainly seen , Acts 8. 17. & 19. 6. Therefore I conclude , they are capable of this Ordinance : and therefore neither doth this Argument of yours , serve the purpose you bring it to . 5. Your fifth Argument ; because this laying on of hands ( to wit , upon officers ) concerns the whole Church , which is necessary a principle should do ; but the other do not concern the whole , as I have shewed . To which I answer , 1. That there are many things that do concern the whole Church of Christ , which are no principles of the foundation ; as for Instance , breaking of Bread , with many other duties , ( which may be minded ) doth concern the whole , and yet no principle of the foundation ; and therefore this considered , your Argument is void . 2. Whereas you say , it doth concern the whole body as a principle : But I pray , how doth your Argument make it to appear , that it is one of the principles , Heb. 6. 2. vers. which if your Argument were good , it should do . I do grant , that laying on of hands upon officers , doth concern the whole body , ( and that thus ) God having appointed this way and order in his house , for setting persons apart for office . Now this way and order the Church of Christ ought to maintain ; and this doth concern them as well as a principle of the foundation doth concerne them , which yet is not the principle , Heb. 6. 2. and therefore you are mistaken ; for I have already shewed you , how laying on of hands upon believers as such , doth concern the whole body , yea every particular member thereof , as the principle , Heb. 6. 2. and that as they are Babes in Christ : which the other in this sence doth not ; but to some particulars , who are strong men , as is before minded , though of concernment to the whole . 3. Whereas you say , you have shewed how the other doth not concern the whole , you may by what I have said , plainly see your mistake , ( which I wish the Lord may shew unto you , ) for laying on of hands upon believers , as such , doth concern the whole body , not only as a principle , but as the principle , as is before discovered . But you have a seeming Reason to prove your Argument , which is , because every member is bound to live under the Government of the Church , and to be obedient to their officers , to whom the rule and care of the whole Church is committed ; and therefore this must be the principle , Heb. 6. 2. Answ. To which I answer , granting your proposition , yet denying your conclusion : because it 's every ones duty to maintain communion with the Church in breaking of Bread , doth it therfore follow that breaking of Bread is a foundation-principle ? Thus you may see the weakness of your Reasons , which you bring to prove laying on of hands upon persons to office , to be the foundation-principle , Heb. 6. 2. As for your Phrase , of laying on of hands upon persons to office , that it holds forth the Government of the Church : I shall not at this time enter the debate thereof ; though I do Judge there is some exception in it , as it 's laid down by you . But you further say , to inforce what you have spoken , that this is the very order of the principles , as they are laid down , Heb. 6. 2. I Answer , that here again you are mistaken : for laying on of hands upon persons to office , is no foundation-principle , as I have already proved . And therefore what the principle is we contend for , which is indeed that in order there laid down ; I shall further clear unto you by this Argument . That which was administred next in order after Baptisme , is the foundation-principle . But laying on of hands upon believers Baptized , as such , was administred next in order after Baptisme ; and therefore the foundation-principle , as it is laid down , Heb. 6. 2. 1. That it was administred next in order after Baptisme , is very plain from Acts 8. 17. and 19. 6. Where when they were Baptized , they had hands laid upon them : and in this very order it is laid down , in Heb. 6. 1 , 2. 2. That this laying on of hands was upon believers Baptized as such , is likewise plain from those places of Scripture ; and therefore this laying on of hands must be there meant , the foundation-principle , in Heb. 6. 2. And so in the next place , I say with you , that Baptisme and laying on of hands is necessary to a right and orderly Church-constitution : but whereas you say , Baptisme was to admit believers into the Church , ( if you mean so as to joyn them members of the body , then ) I do deny it : for their addition to the Church , followed after their Baptisme , as I have fully proved in my book , ( in Answer to an Objection , following my second Reason given for the proof of this truth , ) from Acts 2. 42. Lastly , Whereas you say , that this is the Judgement of most Modern and later VVriters upon this Text , Heb. 6. 2. for which you instance Doctor Gouge , Wilson , Trap , and Cartwright ; Answ. I fear you being so much learned in these mens Judgements , makes you the less knowing , in the Scriptures . 2. Had you had sufficient Testimony for what you said from the Scripture , as in your Reasons you pretend to have , then what need you instance these mens Judgements ; unless you did think , ( as I think you do not , ) that what they spake were Oracles ? and therefore , 3. Doth not this discover ; in some measure , the weakness of your Reasons or arguments before minded , for what in this Chapter you have affirmed ? Surely , by this your arguments were not good , that you must run to these mens Judgements ; and I wonder , ( you having recorded this Testimony for your Judgement in your third Chapter , ) you were not ashamed ( in your fourth Chapter , ) to declare , that our best argument for this practise , is the Common Prayer book , if the Judgments of men should end this controversie : unless you do Judge these men you bring , did not love the Common Prayer book , or there were not amongst those that did love it , men partakers of as much wisdome , as these you instance . Now what would you say , if I should now instance , that laying on of hands according to the sence I have minded , was the Judgements of as good men , according to the test , ( although it was by them wrongly applyed , ) as those you do bring : will you say , that this is therefore true ? I do think you would not , otherwise you would not have instanced the Common Prayer book : well , though this may be done , yet I must tell you , that we have a more sure word of Prophesie , and this is that I do desire to stand unto , and to be tried by , and not by mens Judgements ; and therefore now do refer what I have spoken , to be tryed by the Scriptures ; and the Lord hasten a clear discovery of his truth , in what I have now written , and make you sensible wherein you have wrested the good Word of the Lord , from the proper and true meaning thereof : and so I shall proceed to your fourth and last Chapter . Your 4. Chapter , which doth contain , according to your mistaken Judgement , that the laying on of hands , practised by some in these our dayes , on all Baptized believers , was never instituted , commanded , or practised , by Christ or his Apostles , in all the New Testament . And herein , say you , doth lie the stress of this controversie ; which doth occasion this your writing , to undeceive and reduce those who are under the vanity of this practise , and to prevent others from owning of , and submitting to such a Scriptureless thing as this is , &c. Answ. First , I hope the Reader will well consider of what I have written in Answer to your book , and in the discovery I have made ( according to the measure of faith I have received ) in this book , of this truth of Christ , before he do , ( as you too confidently have already done ) pass Judgement upon this truth : the Lord give you to see it , and to repent , lest God suffer you to go on in labouring to turn poor Souls aside from this truth , or right way of the Lord , and so to deceive and seduce those that are unstable , to the belief of your lyes . 2. I wish you may see the evil of your Language ( which this Chapter contains little else in it , ) which you have vented forth against this truth , and the maintainers thereof . Oh! how little therein you have savoured of grace , and how much the vanity of your minde is discovered , in seeking to possesse the hearts of poor Souls , with that which is not : and therefore I may truly say ( in stead of what you speak of us , ) that you speak evill of the things you know not , and call that a foundation-principle , which by your arguments you prove not ; Neither have you the least word or warrant for it , in all the New Testament . But now to make good your assertion , which is the ground of your 4. Chapter , you have framed this Syllogisme . That which hath not one word of institution , or command for it , in all the New Testament , is no Ordinance of Christ ; but will-worship and Superstition . But this laying on of hands on all Baptized believers , hath not one word of institution , or command for it , in all the New Testament ; therefore , no Ordinance of Christ , but will-worship and superstition . To which I answer , that practise which hath not one word of institution or command for it , in all the New Testament , ( I do grant ) is will-worship and Superstition . But that laying on of hands upon believers Baptized as such , is without institution or command from Christ ; this I do deny , the contrary being already made to appear , both in my answer to your book , and also before , in what I have written in my Book : and therefore it is not your saying of what we do aleage , ( wherein you minde Scriptures we minde not in this particular case , ) that will prove there is not ; Neither your sence and interpretations you put upon those Scriptures we do aleage . I wish you would consider , how you have wrested those Scriptures , which have been minded for the proof of this truth , ( to wit , laying on of hands upon believers Baptized as such ) and so by your wiles , if possible , the truth of God out of our hands . I wonder you Answer not the Arguments layd down by some for the proof of this ( to wit , that we have a command for laying on of hands ) as for instance : Doctor Chamberlain in his dispute with Mr. Kiffin , in the 16. page of his book , saith he , For a command , we have it in Mat. 28. 20. For whatsoever is a Doctrine of the Apostles , is the Command of Christ . But imposition of hands is a Doctrine of the Apostles . The minor is granted by you , in your first Assertion , where you say , you grant it is a Doctrine or principle ; but not to be practised : and the Text doth also number it up amongst the Doctrines and principles . The Major is the very words of the Text : Teachings them , to observe all things , whatsoever I have Commanded you ; unless ( saith he ) you will deny that Doctrine is Teaching , or that the Apostles taught what they were not commanded , as some have presumptuously affirmed . This argument was indeavoured , ( yet not in the least answered ) by Mr. Perry , as you may see in the 23 page of his Book of animadversions . 2. You may also see Mr. Griffiths Arguments , one of which I shall name , why this is so . Because , saith he , the Apostles did administer such a thing on dipped believers as such , Acts 8. 17. and 19. 6. Now saith he , either they did administer it , upon the account of Christs Requirement , command or injunction , or upon an account of their own . But it was not upon an account of their own ; therefore it was upon the account of Christs Requirement , command or injunction . This he proves , as you may see in the sixth page of his book in answer to Mr. Harrison : this was never that I know of answered by any of you ; with many more he layes down in his book of the six principles . Surely , you could not be ignorant of those Arguments ; and therefore how you could retain this Objection , when it hath been by such Arguments refuted , and yet not take notice of those Arguments , so as to answer them , I know not . 3. You may likewise see what Mr Tillam writes , in the 10 , 11 , 12 , 13. and 14 page of his book , ( it being an answer to Mr. Paul Hobson , and to this very Objection . ) 4. Amongst the rest , for further witness herein , I shall refer you to what I have written in answer to this very Objection , laid down and answered in my book , which I desire the Lord may help you to weigh and consider of , that the truth of God may have place in your hearts . For I must tell you , it will be little comfort to you , if Christ ( as he suddenly will come , ) shall finde you opposing the reformation of his house . And further , I desire the Lord may keep you from this temptation , ( which too many are subject to run into ) to wit , Now truth is displayed , presently to make war therewith , indeavouring the suppressing thereof . There being little in this fourth Chapter , then this bare Syllogisme more then frivolous discourse , with reflections , and unsavoury and hard speeches , which do discover the bitterness of the minde from whence they proceeded ; I shall take as little notice as I can , ( with wisdome ) of them , and draw to a conclusion of my answer to your book ; only shall observe some few things . 1. You labour to darken the truth , and that with your slighting of those things that have been written in the vindication thereof , and those Scriptures which have been affirmed by those that have written ; thereby seeking to possess the minds of people with an understanding from several Scriptures , as if they were ours ; but is indeed your own imagination , that thereby you might hinder the proceeding of this truth amongst the people of God . And therefore I do affirm , that what hath been affirmed ( by any of us , ) from those Scriptures , doth still stand good to what they were intended ; and are true witnesses in this case for the proof of this truth . And when by those persons that shall duly weight and consider the matter you have written , with the answer thereunto , ( without prejudice of Spirit , but with love towards God , to finde out his truth , ) they will easily see your errour herein , and that in this matter we have not ( as your selves have done , ) handled the Word of God deceitfully , 2 Cor. 2. 17. and 4. 2. 2. You say , that we say you are Babes ; taking that as matter of great disdain ; but how like Children you do and have acted , I do believe will be easily seen , by those who have their eyes open . 3. And whereas you say , we are much at loss about the end of this Ordinance , and so by this would cast dust into the eyes of persons , to blind them the more : I Answer , that if there be any that doth affirm this or that , or a third thing , to be the end of this Ordinance ; yet I hope you will grant us the same liberty to come to the knowledge of this truth , you your selves take to attain the highth of opposition against it : is there not divisions among your selves , in your opposing of us ? what 's the Reason , that you affirm one thing , Mr. Kiffin another , and Mr. Harrison a third ? Mr. Harrison he saith , it is laying on of hands for healing is the principle , Heb. 6. 2. Mr. Kiffin , he saith , ( missing the end of that we practise ) that it was only dispensed for the confirmation of the Gospel . I could tell you , that others who do oppose it , do say , Not the practise of laying on of hands , is the foundation-principle ; but the effects of laying on of hands ; which is as false , and the words unsound : and you after all , affirm laying on of hands upon persons to office , to be the foundation-principle , Heb. 6. 2. ( which is not so ) therefore consider , w●o is more at loss then your selves . Remember what is written , and take good cognizance of your books you have written against us , and the truth : surely your opposition is much heighthened , by the bitterness of your Spirit against us ; because we cannot deny this Word of the Lord we are conscious of ; Not , because the Bishops did practise it , ( as you say we do ; ) but because we finde it written , as that which Christ and his Apostles taught , and that unto which believers as such were obedient . What though some among us , ( though I know not of any ) should understand the Extraordinary gifts of the Holy Spirit to be the end of this Ordinance , wherein they should be deceived with your selves ; doth this make voyd the truth of God ? God forbid . We know , that the Extraordinary gifts of the Holy Spirit , did follow the Preaching of the VVord , and so was a fruit of that Ordinance , as well as laying on of hands ; but the proper end , of neither of them . Is there no gifts of the Spirit of God , which believers then did , and do now receive according to the promise of God , but such as are given in an Extraordinary manner ? Surely you dare not say there is not . But I shall leave this , and take as little notice as possible , of the frames of your Spirits , which are as if you were bent and resolved to fight against truth , and to tread under , and render odious , the maintainers thereof . The ground whereof , I conceive is ; because we cannot communicate with you , who reject and deny this teaching of Christ , and bring your own with the new-conceited opinion of Doctor Gouge and others in the room thereof : and though you are pleased to say , that our best Argument is the Common prayer book , yet we would give you to know , that we have a more sure VVord of Prophesie , 2 Pet. 1. 19. our witness is in the word of truth ; and your Reasons , with all the wisdome of those men you minded , in this case , will be found too light , being weighed in the Balance of the truth , that laying on of hands , in Heb. 6. 2. is meant upon persons to office . But wherefore are we branded with the names of censoriousness , Rigid , Hatred , and such Judgments ; as if we had ( as you say ) received the Spirit of Satan , in stead of the Spirit of God ? 1. Is it because some of us , as you say , forbid you their houses ? but I pray you in your writing of this , did you carefully observe and remember the frames of your Spirit ? whatsoever your carriage was towards your Brethren , of whom you thus speak , I know not ; yet sure I am , in this your writing , you go beyond your bounds : but what is this Spirit which is discovered to be in you , but that old Maligne Spirit , that seeks the destruction of the truth and way of God , who alwayes reaps up the failings , ( if there be any ) in any poor soul , thereby to dishonour , and cast dirt upon the face of truth ? or 2. Is it , because as you say , we deny you Communion ? why consider , is it not upon the same ground that you your selves have denyed others ? and have not you dealt with some poor souls , who have been convinced of this truth , and for truths sake , in duty towards God , have been obedient thereunto ? Surely to withdraw from those , who deny truth , and turn their backs upon truth , is from a better understanding , and is more agreeable to the minde of God , then to withdraw from poor souls , who are followers of truth : The first is ours , the second your practise ; the Lord he is Judge , and will certainly Judge between us , and make his truth manifest : for it is time for thee Lord to work , when men make voyd thy Law , Psalm 119. 126. vers. The End . Post-script . Reader , I would have thee take notice , that whereas I have made mention of the names of some particular persons in my book ; It is not from any Spirit of prejudice that I have toward them ; for the Lord he knows they are men I do love and esteem : but my mentioning of them was for this end , that believers might see the weakness of their Objections , and the difference that is in their understandings about this truth of laying on of hands upon believers Baptized as such : that so indeed the great Mountains that are raised up in the wayes of poor souls in their obedience unto Christ in this Ordinance , may be removed ; and therefore I hope , there i● none that will harbor such a conceit from what I have written , as that I should have ever the l●ss esteem of them , for the mentioning of their names in the cases I have minded ; neither that others should have ever the less esteem of them ; but that indeed so far as they follow truth , they should be esteemed for the sake thereof : and therefore I do desire that Satan may have no advantage , by any thing I have written ; for I have indeavoured both in my book and in my Answering of these four Chapters , to write without reflecting Language , which as I know it would not profit my self nor the truth ; So likewise would but raise up the Spirits of those , who are opposers thereof : and therefore now , that God may give thee a Spirit of Wisedome , that thou maist know and understand what is written , is the Prayer of him , who is willing to serve thee , wherein he may be instrumental for thy good : and the blessing of God go along with this his weak indeavours , Amen . W. R. FINIS .