Philadelphia: or, XL. queries peaceably and inoffensively propounded for the discovery of truth in this question, or case of conscience; whether persons baptized (as themselves call baptism) after a profession of faith, may, or may not, lawfully, and with good conscience, hold communion with such churches, who judg themselves truly baptized, though in infancy, and before such a profession? Together with some few brief touches about infant, and after-baptism. By J.G. a minister of the gospel of Jesus Christ. Goodwin, John, 1594?-1665. This text is an enriched version of the TCP digital transcription A85408 of text R207109 in the English Short Title Catalog (Thomason E702_7). Textual changes and metadata enrichments aim at making the text more computationally tractable, easier to read, and suitable for network-based collaborative curation by amateur and professional end users from many walks of life. The text has been tokenized and linguistically annotated with MorphAdorner. 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A85408) Transcribed from: (Early English Books Online ; image set 118444) Images scanned from microfilm: (Thomason Tracts ; 108:E702[7]) Philadelphia: or, XL. queries peaceably and inoffensively propounded for the discovery of truth in this question, or case of conscience; whether persons baptized (as themselves call baptism) after a profession of faith, may, or may not, lawfully, and with good conscience, hold communion with such churches, who judg themselves truly baptized, though in infancy, and before such a profession? Together with some few brief touches about infant, and after-baptism. By J.G. a minister of the gospel of Jesus Christ. Goodwin, John, 1594?-1665. 32 p. Printed by J.M. for Henry Cripps, and Lodowick Lloyd, and are to be sold at their shop in Popes-head Alley, London, : 1653. J.G. = John Goodwin. Annotation on Thomason copy: "June. 22.". Reproduction of the original in the British Library. eng Baptism -- Early works to 1800. Infant baptism -- Early works to 1800. A85408 R207109 (Thomason E702_7). civilwar no Philadelphia: or, XL. queries peaceably and inoffensively propounded for the discovery of truth in this question, or case of conscience;: w Goodwin, John 1653 14643 21 30 0 0 0 0 35 C The rate of 35 defects per 10,000 words puts this text in the C category of texts with between 10 and 35 defects per 10,000 words. 2007-09 TCP Assigned for keying and markup 2007-09 Apex CoVantage Keyed and coded from ProQuest page images 2007-10 Elspeth Healey Sampled and proofread 2007-10 Elspeth Healey Text and markup reviewed and edited 2008-02 pfs Batch review (QC) and XML conversion PHILADELPHIA : OR , XL . QUERIES Peaceably and inoffensively propounded For the Discovery of Truth in this Question , or Case of Conscience ; Whether Persons Baptized ( as themselves call Baptism ) after a profession of Faith , may , or may not , lawfully , and with a good Conscience , hold Communion with such Churches , who judg themselves truly Baptized , though in Infancy , and before such a Profession ? Together with some few brief Touches about Infant , and after-Baptism . By J. G. a Minister of the Gospel of Jesus Christ . I thank God that I baptized none of you , but Crispus and Gaius . — And I baptized also the boushold of Stephanas : besides , I know not whether I baptized any other . For Christ sent me not to baptize , but to preach the Gospel . 1 Cor. 1. 14 , 16 , 17. For ye are all the children of God by Faith in Christ Jesus . Gal. 4. 26. For in Jesus Christ , neither circumcision availeth any thing , nor uncircumcision , but Faith which worketh by love . Gal. 5. 6. Circumcision is nothing , nor uncircumcision is nothing ; but the keeping of the Commandments of God . 1 Cor. 7. 19. Deus nobis imperavit congregationem : sibi servavit separationem . August . in Mat. 13. 47. Infantibus minime negandus Baptismus , quos Deus adoptat , & filii sui sanguine abluit . Calvin . Harm. p. 253. London , Printed by J. M. for Henry Cripps , and Lodowick Lloyd , and are to be sold at their Shop in Popes-head Alley . 1653. QUERIES ABOUT Lawfulness of Communion , with Churches deemed unbaptized ; As also about Infant and after-Baptism . I. WHether is there any Precept , or Example in the Gosp●l , of any person , how duly soever baptized , who disclaimed Christian Communion , either in Church fellowship , or in any the Ordinances of the Gospel , with those , whom he judged true Beleevers , upon an account only of their not having been baptized , especially after such a manner , as he judged necessary for them to have been ? Or in case there be neither precept , nor example found in the Scriptures to warrant such a practise , upon what ground are the Consciences of such men , who practise it , satisfied or emboldened , in their way ? Or if it be replyed , that there were no Beleevers in the Apostles days , who were not baptized , and that truly , and consequently , that there was no occasion of scrupuling communion with any Beleever in these days ; 1. How can this ever be proved , ( viz. that there were no Beleevers unbaptized in the Apostles days , ) the contrary being apparant ( as may be touched hereafter ? ) 2. Be it granted , that there were no Beleevers unbaptized , or unduly baptized , in the Apostles days , upon what ground notwithstanding can the practise now queried , be justified , or maintained , unless the Practisers certainly know , and can satisfie themselves , that in case there had been such Beleevers in these times ( I mean , who had been un-baptized , or unduly baptized ) those duly Baptized would have declined such communion with them , as that specified ; especially considering that positive actions ( such is a declining , or withdrawing from , communion with the Saints in Church-fellowship ) cannot be justified upon negative grounds , at least not further then in point of meer lawfulness , or indifferency , no nor thus far , in case of scandal ; which is the case of those , who withdraw from Church-communion to the offence , both of that Church from which they withdraw , and of many others ? II. Whether can it be proved from the Scriptures , or by any Argument , like , or meet , to satisfie the Conscience of any tender and considering Christian , that the Apostles or other Christians in their days , would have declined Church-communion with , or denyed Church-communion unto , such persons , whom they judged true Beleevers in Christ , and Partakers of like precious Faith with themselves , only because they had not been Baptized or dipped in water , after a profession of their beleeving ; especially in case they had been baptized , and solemnly consecrated by washing with water , unto the service of Jesus Christ before , considering that the Apostle Paul expresly saith , that in Jesus Christ [ i. e. under the Gospel , or profession of Christ in the world ] neither Circumcision availeth any thing , nor Vncircumcision , BUT FAITH which worketh by love a : And again ; That Circumcision is nothing , nor Vncircumcision is nothing , but the keeping of the Commandments of God b ? meaning , that under the Gospel , and profession thereof , neither did the observation of any external Rite or Ceremony [ Circumcision , by a synecdoche speciei , being put for all kind of external Rites , or Ceremonies ] avail or contribute any thing towards the commending of any person unto God ; nor yet the want of any such observation , discommend any man unto God , or prejudice his acceptation with him : but that which was all in all unto men , and which availed any thing , in , and under the Gospel , that which being sound in men , rendered them accepted and approved of God , and the want of it , disapproved , was such a kind of Faith [ not such , or such , a kind of Ceremony , or such or such a kind of Baptism ] which by the mediation or interveening of that heavenly affection of love , uttereth and expresseth it self in keeping the Commandments of God , [ viz. so far as they are made known unto them , and as humane infirmity will well bear and admit . ] Or is it to be beleeved , that either the Apostles , or other Christians taught by them , would have rejected those from their communion , who were weak in the Faith , and were not convinced of every thing that was in any degree necessary for them to know , and to do , only for want of such an external observance , of the lawfulness whereof they were unconvinced , and which , had they submitted unto it , would have availed them little or nothing ? III. Whether can it be proved by any text , or passage of Scripture , either directly , or by any tolerable consequence , that Christian Churches were ( in the Apostles days ) constituted by Baptism , or that none were reputed members of Churches , or admitted into Christian Communion with those who were Baptized , but only such who were Baptized likewise ; considering that that text Acts 2. 41. [ commonly , and only , as far as I know , pretended for proof of such a thing ] doth not so much as colour , much less cotton , with such a supposal , or conclusion ; the tenor of the place being only this , Then they that gladly received his word , were baptized : and the same day there were added unto [ them ] about three thousand Souls ? For , 1. It is not here said , that all they that gladly received the Word , were baptized ; but indefinitely only , They that gladly received , &c. Now indefinite expressions in Scripture are not always equipollent to universals , but sometimes to partitives , or particulars . When the Apostle , speaking of Beleevers under the Old Testament , saith , that THEY stopped the mouths of Lions , quenched the violence of fire , &c. [ Hebr. 11. 33 , 34. ] he doth not mean , that they all did either of these ; nor indeed that many of them did either . See Mat. 27. 34. compared with vers . 48. ( to omit an hundred instances more of like import . ) Yea many times universal expressions themselves are to be understood with limitation and restraine . These things are sufficiently known to persons any thing conversant in the Scriptures . 2. Neither is it here said , nor is it a thing in it self much probable , that ONLY they who were baptized , were added unto them , [ i. e. to the pre-ex●stent number of Disciples , ] but only and simply that there were the number of three thousand added the same day . Within which number it is the probable opinion of some , that the children , and families , of those , who are said to have gladly received the Word , are comprehended ; it being no ways likely , scarce possible , that 3000 men should distinctly hear the voyce of a man speaking : especially unless we shall suppose , that these 3000 stood nearest unto him that spake , and with the best advantage to hear , there being many thousands more present ; which can hardly be the supposition of any considering man in the case in hand . Nor , 3. Is it said , or so much as intimated or hinted in the least , that any of the whole number of the three thousand who were added unto them , were added by means , or upon the account , of their being baptized , although this addition be not mentioned till after their baptizing . It is ten degrees more probable , that their beleeving , or discipleship , which according to the principles of those Brethren themselves with whom we now argue , were precedent to their baptizing , and not their being baptized , were the reason and ground of Luke's saying , they were added unto the Church , or former number of Disciples ; considering , 1. That the original , main and principal foundation of the holy brotherhood amongst the Saints , and that which makes them fellow-members , or members one of another , is , not the Ceremony of their external Baptism , but their fellowship and communion in the divine Nature , and inward relation unto the same Christ by one and the same precious Faith . 2. That it cannot be demonstratively proved from the Scriptures , that those hundred and twenty Disciples [ Act. 1. 15. ] unto which it is here said that three thousand were added , were , or had been , all of them baptized , in as much as ( as will presently appear ) there were divers members of Churches in the Apostles days , who were unbaptized ; no , nor can it any whit more be proved from Scripture , that the Apostles themselves mentioned Act. 1. 13. had been baptized , then that John the Baptist was baptized . 3. ( And lastly , ) That had the Church , or persons , unto whom these three thousand are said to have been added , been estimated by their having been baptized , ( which must be supposed , if those who are added to them , are said to have been added upon the account of their being baptized , ) their number must needs have far exceeded an hundred and twenty , considering the great numbers and vast multitudes of persons , that had been baptized by John , Mat. 3. 5 , 6. compared with Mark 1. 5. Luk. 3. 7 , 21. as also by Christ himself and his Disciples , Joh. 3. 22 26. Yea had the Church been estimated , or constituted , by Baptism , the Evangelist Luke , intending ( questionless , Act. 4. 4. ) to report the increase of the Church and progress of the Gospel , with as much advantage as truth would afford , had prevaricated with the cause , which he intended to promote , in reporting their number to have been about five thousand only ; when as , upon the said supposition , and the tenor of the late premisses , he might with as much Truth have reported them about forty thousand , yea and many more . Howbeit many of them which heard the Word , BELEEVED : and the number of the men were about five thousand . In which passage , the increase of the Church , or addition unto the former Saints , is with much more pregnancy of intimation ascribed unto their beleeving , then in the other place it is unto their being baptized . Therefore both men and women , who are indeed tender of Conscience in things appertaining unto God , had need have a better foundation to bear them out in their practise of rending and tearing Churches [ or , if this name will not pass , of rending and tearing holy Societies and fellowships of Saints ] then any thing that can be so much as tolerably inferred from the Text now argued , Act. 2. 41. IV. Whether did not the Church of Christ at Rome in the Apostles days , and so also the Churches in Galatia , hold Church-communion with some , who were not baptized , considering , 1. That the Apostle to the former writeth thus : Know ye not , that SO MANY OF US as were baptized into Jesus Christ , were baptized into his death ? Rom. 6. 3. and to the latter ( after the same manner ) thus : For AS MANY OF YOU as have been baptized into Christ . Gal. 3. 27. 2. That this particle , {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} , as many as ( used in both places ) is , in such constructions as these , always partitive , distinguishing or dividing the entire number of persons spoken of , some from others , by the character or property specified , or at least supposeth a possibility of such a distinction . {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} , as many as touched [ the hem of his garment ] were made whole , ( Mat. 14. 36. ) This clearly supposeth , either that there were some , or at least that there might be some , who did not thus touch . So again : They brought in all AS MANY AS they found , &c. Mat. 22. 10. So , AS MANY [ i. e. as many men and women ] as are of the works of the Law , are under the curse . Gal. 3. 10. See also Mark 3. 10. & 6. 11 , 56. Luk. 4 40. Ioh. 1. 12. Act. 3. 24 ( with others more of like tenor and import , almost without number . ) Therefore is it not without controversie and dispute , that the Apostle saying to the Church at Rome , and to those in Galatia , As MANY OF You as have been baptized , &c. supposeth , either that there actually were , or at least that ( for ought he knew to the contrary ) there might be , sundry of their members , who had not been baptized ? And if he had either known , or so much as by conjecture supposed , that all the members of these Churches had without exception been baptized , is it credible that he would have expressed himself thus unto them ( respectively , ) As MANY OF You As have been baptized , and not rather , You having all been baptized , or the like ? V. Whether did not the Church at Corinth ( in the Apostles days ) entertain members , and hold communion with those , who had not been baptized ; considering that he demandeth thus of this Church : Else what shall [ or , what will ] they do , which are baptized for the dead , if the dead rise not at all ? why are they then baptized for the dead c ? Or doth not this imply , that there was a corrupt and superstitious practise on foot in this Church , to baptize one or other of the surviving kindred , or Friends , in the name of such persons ( respectively ) who dyed unbaptized , and that this Church thought and supposed , that such Baptism was available for good unto the deceased in such a case ; which practise and opinion of theirs the Apostle here insisteth on as inconsistent with that most dangerous and pernicious Error of denying the Resurrection of the dead , which had now gotten head amongst them ? And if there were such a practise as this in this Church , I mean to baptize some of the living members , in the name and stead of some that were dead , is it not a plain case that there were some of these members , who lived and dyed unbaptized ? VI . Whether , when Paul , soon after his conversion , assayed to joyn himself to the Church and Disciples at Jerusalem ( Act. 9. 26. ) did this Church make any enquiry after his Baptism , as whether he had been baptized , or no , in order to his reception amongst them ; or did they know that he had been baptized ? Or did Barnabas , in giving satisfaction to the Apostles and Church concerning his meetness to be admitted into communion with them , so much as mention his being Baptized , but only declared unto them how he had seen the Lord in the way , and that he had spoken to him , and how he had preached boldly at Damascus in the Name of Jesus ? Acts 9. 27. VII . Whether , upon a supposal , that it cannot be proved from the Scriptures , that any unbaptized , or unduly baptized person , was ever admitted into Church-communion by Christians in the Apostles days , or that any duly baptized person held communion with a Church , the greatest part of whose members he deemed either unbaptized , or unduly Baptized , is such a defect of proof sufficient to justifie a withdrawing of communion by a person , who conceiveth himself duly baptized , from such a Church , the generality of whose members he supposeth are either not baptized , or unduly Baptized ; considering that very many things may be matter of duty , and necessary to be done , which are not warranted for so much as lawful , by any example in the Scriptures of like action in all circumstances ? It is the duty of Churches , and of every member respectively , to admit their women-members to the Lords Table ; yet cannot this practice be warranted by any example recorded in the Scriptures . Yea in case at the time of this Sacramental Administration in a Church , all the men-members should occasionally be absent , except only the Administrator , and ( it may be ) a Deacon or two , and only the women-members present , there is little question to be made , but that the Administration ought to proceed notwithstanding , and the elements be administred unto this female Congregation , though there be no example of such an Administration as this in the Scriptures . There is no example in Scripture of any person worshiping the Holy Ghost : yet it is a great duty lying upon Christians to worship him . When David , and the men with him , entred into the House of God , and did eat the shew-bread a , he had no Scripture-example to justifie his action ; no more had the Disciples to justifie theirs , when they plucked the ears of Corn as they passed through the Fields on a Sabbath day : yet were both these actions lawful , and ( to a degree ) necessary . The reading of the Scriptures translated out of the Original Languages into English , Welch , Dutch , French , &c. is not only lawful , but necessary , in the Christian Churches in these Nations ; yet is there no example extant in Scripture of any such practice in the primitive Times , no nor so much as of any Translation of the Scriptures at all . It were easie to add more instances of like consideration . VIII . Whether is an action or practice , suppose in matters relating to the service or worship of God , upon this account evicted to be unlawful , because it hath neither precept [ I mean , no particular or express precept , and wherein the action or practice it self , with all the circumstances under which it becomes lawful , is named , ] nor example , to warrant the lawfulness of it ? Or hath the practice of admitting women to the Lords Table , any such , either precept , or example , to justifie it ? Or in case a Minister shall preach to a Congregation consisting of young men only , and from Rev. 22. 3 , or 4 ▪ &c. would such an act as this be unlawful ? or is there any such precept , as that mentioned , or example in Scripture , for the warrant of it ? Or when David , and those that were with him , went into the House of God , and , contrary to the letter of an Institution , eat the shew-bread , had they either such a precept , as that mentioned , or any example , to bear them out in such a practise ? Or doth not our Saviour in the Gospel justifie that action of theirs notwithstanding ? Or if the case , or law of necessity , or of peril , either of health , or life , be pleadable for the justification thereof ; is not the same Law altogether as , yea & much more , pleadable , on the behalf of such persons , who being of tender , weak , and sickly constitutions , dare not tempt God , or expose themselves to the imminent hazard of health or life , by being doused in their apparel over head and ears in the water ; especially considering that God hath testified from Heaven his dis-approbation of the practice , by suffering some to be grievously afflicted in their bodies , and some also to miscarry in life it self , by means ( in all likelyhood ) of the temptation ? Or hath not God sufficiently and plainly enough declared his mind and pleasure in all such cases as this , in saying , I will have mercy , and not sacrifice a ? Or if it be pleaded , that all danger of miscarrying in either kind , may be prevented , by chusing a warm room , and warm water , for the transacting of the Baptismal Dipping , is it not queryable hereupon , whether this be not to alter and change , to new-mold , shape , and transform the Ordinance of God , as men please , and this under a pretext of observing it ? Or is there not as much difference between hot water , and cold , as is between a child , and a man ? IX . Whether , when God hath by Faith purified the hearts of a people walking in a Christian Brotherhood and Fellowship together , hath he not sanctified them ? And in case any person shall now despise , or decline their fellowship , as unholy , doth he not sin against that heavenly Admonition delivered by special Revelation unto Peter ; What God hath cleansed [ {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} , i. e. sanctified , or purified ] call not thou [ or , make not thou ] common a ? Or can a man ( lightly ) call , or make , that common , which God hath sanctified , in a more opprobrious and contumelious way , then by fleeing from it , as polluted or unholy ? X. Whether doth , or needs , a man contract any guilt of sin before God , by walking in such a society of men , who being otherwise confessedly Christian and holy , have only some practice amongst them in the judgment and conscience of this man not approvable , in case , 1. he shall at any time openly declare his dislike of this practice ; and , 2. Be no ways constrained , or solicited to communicate in this practice ? Or , when men may separate that which is precious from that which is vile , and enjoy it thus separated , and apart , without suffering any inconvenience by that which is vile , is it a point of wisdom in them to deprive themselves of the enjoyment of what is precious , because there is somewhat , which they suppose to be vile , near to it ? XI . Whether may persons , who are weak in the Faith , be rejected by a Church from communion with them , in case they desire it , only because they question , or dissent from , the sence of the generality of this Church , in some one point of doubtful disputation ? Or is not the practice of a man , who pretends to be strong in the Faith , in renouncing communion with a Church ( or , which is the same , in rejecting a Church from his communion ) which he judgeth weak in the Faith , only because they more generally dissent from him in a matter of doubtful disputation , a practice much more unchristian and unwarrantable , then the former ? Or is not the practice , especially the necessity , of dipping , after Infant-ablution , or Infant-Baptism , a matter of doubtful disputation ; unless ( haply ) by matters of doubtful disputation , we mean , not whatsoever is questioned , opposed , or denyed by any man , or any sort of men , being asserted and held by others ; but only such things , which are controverted and disputed with good probability on either side , by men of gravity , worth , soberness of judgment , throughly versed and expert in the Scriptures ? &c. And whether , in this sence or notion of matters of doubtful disputation , is the necessity of the said practice of after-Baptism so much as matter of doubtful disputation , the generality of Christians so qualified , as hath been expressed , unanimously agreeing in the non-necessity , yea and ( which is somewhat more ) in the irregularity of it ? XII . Whether did the Lord Christ , pointing to any river , or water , say , Vpon this water will I build my Church ? Or did he not , speaking either of himself , or of that great Truth , viz. that He was the Son of the living God , which Peter had confessed , say , Vpon this Rock will I build my Church a ? Or is there the softest whisper , or gentlest breathing in the Scripture , of any such notion , or opinion , as this , that a true Church of Christ cannot be constituted , or made , no not of the truest and soundest Believers in the world , unless they have been baptized after their believing , how , or after what manner soever , they have been baptized before ? XIII . Whether is an error , or mistake , about the adequate or appropriate subject of Baptism , of any worse consequence , or greater danger , then an error or mistake about Melchisedec's Father , as viz. in case a man should suppose him to have been Noah ( which he must be , in case Melchisedec were the same Person with Sem ) when as he was some other man ? If so , how , or wherein doth the excess of the danger , or evil of the consequence appear ? If not , whether is it Christian , or any ways becoming the Spirit of the Gospel , to abandon communion with such Churches , which ( being interpreted ) is to proclaim them polluted , hated and abhorred by Christ , only because a man supposeth them to lie under the guilt of such an error , or mistake ? XIV . Whether may not the importune contest , or question , about the appropriate subject of Baptism , as it is stated by the Brethren of New Baptism , in opposition to the judgment and practice ( almost ) of the whole Christian World , justly be numbered amongst those questions , which the Apostle calls foolish , and unlearned , and adviseth both Timothy and Titus to avoyd , as being questions which ingender strife a , and are unprofitable and vain b ; considering , 1. That the experience of many years in the Reformed Churches abroad , and of some years amongst our selves at home , hath abundantly taught and informed us , that the said question hath yielded little other fruit unto those that have set their hearts to it , yea and unto others also , but contention , strife , emulations , evil surmizings , distractions , confusions , alienations of mind and affections amongst Christian Brethren , evil speakings , vilifyings , revilings , needless and wastful expence of time , loss of many precious opportunities for matters of greatest consequence , unprofitable disturbings and turmoylings of weak Consciences , shatterings , scatterings , rendings , and teerings of such Churches , and Christian Societies , who , till this root of bitterness sprang up amongst them , walked in love , and with the light of Gods countenance shining on them , holding the unity of the Spirit in the band of peace , edifying one another in their most holy Faith , &c. 2. That the said Question , in the nature and direct tendency of it , leadeth unto very little that is considerable , or of much consequence for Christians to know ; and that what is brought to light ( of moment and consequence ) by occasion of the ventilation of it , is nothing but what might arrive at the knowledg of Christians , in a more peaceable , and less troublesom way : And , 3. ( and lastly ) That those who are most confident that they have found the treasure of Truth , which the Question we speak of , seeketh after , are no ways , as far as any ways appeareth , or can be discerned , spiritually enriched by it , but rather impoverished ( at least the generality of them ) losing by degrees , that Christian sweetness , meekness , humility , love , patience , soberness of mind , fruitfulness of conversation , &c. which were observable in them before ; as if their new Baptism had been into a new , or another Jesus , altogether unlike unto him , whom Paul preached ? XV . Whether is any Member of a Christian Church , or Society , at any more liberty , or under any greater necessity , to excommunicate , cut off , or separate this Church , or all the members of it , from his communion , only upon his private conceit or perswasion , suppose according to truth , that they walk not in all things according to Gospel-rule , then this Church is to excommunicate him , upon a true and certain perswasion , that he walketh not in every thing according to the rule of the Gospel ? Or if Churches either be at liberty , or under an obligation by way of duty , to excommunicate every of their members ( respectively ) because they judg them not to walk in all things according to the Gospel , are they not at liberty , or bound in duty and conscience , thus to cast out all their members one after another ; considering , that not in some things only , but even in many things ( as the Apostle James speaketh ) we offend all ? Or hath any single member of a Church any more liberty , or authority , to adjudg and determine without the Scriptures , upon what grounds or occasions , his departure from a Church is justifiable , then a Church hath to make Laws and Constitutions of her own for the ejecting of her members ? Or is it anywhere a case adjudged in the Scriptures , that if a Church in any part of the world , suppose under the frozen Zone , shall not practice dipping after sprinkling , or other washing , in the Name of Jesus Christ , every member thereof stands bound in conscience , yea or is so much as at liberty , to reverse , or disoblige himself from , his solemn and sacred engagements to it ? XVI . Whether did not Paul and Barnabas hold Christian Communion with those Christian Converts which they made at Antioch , Acts 13. 43 , 48 , 52. and with those also , which they made soon after in great numbers at Iconium , Acts 14. 1 , 4 ? Or doth it any ways appear from the Scripture , that these Converts , during the continuance of Paul and Barnabas with them , yea or at any time after , were baptized ? If not , is it any ways necessary that we should believe , or ought it to be any Article of our Faith to believe , that they were baptized ? If it be not necessary , then we are at liberty to believe , that Paul and Barnabas did hold Christian Communion with unbaptized Christians ; especially considering , that the tenor of the History diligently consulted , especially concerning those , who were converted to the Faith at Antioch , and the short abode of Paul and Barnabas with them after their Conversion , together with the troublesom oppositions which the Jews of the place made all the while against them , makes it probable in the highest , that they were not baptized , at least whilest these men continued with them ? XVII . Whether , in case any member , one or more , of any Christian Church , or Society , which he judgeth faithful in the main , and willing and ready to walk up to their light , shall verily think and be perswaded , that he hath discovered some defect , or error in this Church , may such an one lawfully and with a good conscience give himself a discharge from all care & service otherwise due from him unto it , by renouncing the communion thereof upon such a pretence , or occasion ; especially before , or until , he hath with all long-suffering and meekness , and with the best of his understanding , endevored the information of this Church in the Truth , and the rectifying the judgments of the members thereof ; considering , that as in the natural body , so in the spiritual or Church-body , the members ought to have the same care one for another , and if one member suffereth , all the members to suffer with it a , ( as the Apostle speaketh , ) and consequently no one member , being healthful and sound , ought to desert its fellow-members being sickly and weak , especially whilest there is yet any hope of their cure and healing ? XVIII . Whether ought a company of true Believers , concerning whose lawful Church constitution there can no other thing with reason and truth be objected , to be vilified , or separated from , as a false Church , or no Church of Christ at all , only because , either , 1. They do not practice contrary to their judgment and conscience , such things , one , or more , which some men conceive it meet they should practice ; Or , 2. because , either God hath not enlightened them to see every thing , which some other men see ; or else because Satan hath not blinded them , so as to make them ignorant of such Truths , one , or more , whereof some others are ignorant , judging them to be Errors ? XIX . Whether is it reasonable or Christian , that a company of true Believers , who have met together in the simplicity of their hearts in the fear of God , in the Name of Jesus Christ , mutually engaging themselves , as in the presence of God , to walk together in all the Ordinances of the Gospel , as far as they shall from time to time be revealed unto them , and walking accordingly , should be infamously stigmatized as no Church , no true Church of Christ , and consequently be esteemed but as a rabble rout of the world only pretending Churchship , and this by some one , or a few persons , only because they cannot see with their eyes , or practice that as necessary , the necessity whereof , after much and earnest prayer unto God , after much enquiry and search , and this with all diligence and impartialness , in order to their conviction and satisfaction , doth no ways to them appear ? XX . Whether is it Christian , or meet , for any one person , man , or woman , to bid defiance unto an whole Church or fellowship of Saints being many , and who are otherwise sober , grave , and conscientiously faithful in all their walking , onely because they cannot with a good Conscience say Amen to every notion and conceit , which these persons themselves judg worthy of reverence and honour , and particularly , because they cannot , against the sence , Judgment and practise , as well of all Christian Antiquity , as of all the Reformed Churches ( very few , if any , excepted ) in the Christian world , thus spiritually court their private apprehensions about the time and manner of an external Administration ; especially considering , that they neither have , nor can , either shew precept , example , or any competent ground otherwise , from the Scriptures , to commend these their apprehensions unto the conscience of any man ? Or is there any precept , which injoyns baptizing , or dipping , in the name of Christ , after a baptizing in infancy into this name ? Or is there any example in Scripture of any baptized after profession of Faith , who had been baptized , or who judged themselves , and were generally so judged by others , to have been baptized , before ? If neither , is it not a clear case , that here is neither precept , nor example in Scripture , which reacheth home to the case , or which warranteth the practice , of the Children of after-Baptism amongst us ? And as for any competent ground otherwise to justifie the practice , hath such a thing ever seen the light of the Sun hitherto ? XXI Whether do not they , who magnifie the ceremony or external rite of Baptism to such an height , as to estimate Christianity by it , or to judg them no true or sound Christians , who are without it , stumble at the same stone of danger and peril of Soul , at which the Jews stumbled , when they practiced and urged Circumcision as necessary for Justification ; to whom , upon this account , Paul testified ; Behold , I Paul say unto you , that if ye be circumcised , [ meaning , with an opinion of a necessity of your being circumcised for your Justification before God , ] Christ shall profit you nothing a ? considering , 1. That Circumcision was an Ordinance of God , yea as great and solemn an Ordinance , as Baptism ; and 2. That when Paul threatened those who so magnified it ( as was said ) with lofing their part and portion in Christ , it was as Lawful , though ( haply ) not so necessary ( and yet in some cases it was necessary too ) as Baptism it self ; yea and the Apostle himself administred it , as well as he did Baptism , yea and pronounced it profitable , ( rightly understood and practiced ? ) Rom. 3. 1. 2. Or might not the same threatening ( I mean , of losing the great blessing of Justification and Salvation by Christ ) have been with altogether as much truth and necessity , administred upon a like occasion and account , unto persons so opinionated of circumcision , as the Galathians were , even when , and whilst , the use and practice of it was every whit as necessary ( or rather more necessary ) as the use of Baptism now is ? XXII . Whether is there any precept , or example in the Scriptures , of any person Baptized after many years profession of the Gospel , or after any considerable measure of assurance of the pardon of sin obtained , or at any other time , save at , or about , their first entrance upon a profession of Christ ? Or is there any competent ground , either in Reason , or Religion , why either such a thing should have been practised by Christians in the Apostles days , or why it ought to be practised by any in these days ; considering , 1. That it is uncomely , and contrary to the Law , which God hath established , both in Nature , and in Grace , to return or fall back from perfection to imperfection , from that which is more spiritual , to that which is more carnal ; And , 2. That types and figures , which are not rememorative ( as the Passover was , and the Lords Table now is ) but either only significative , or obsignative ( as Baptism is ) should be used , after the substance of the things typified and figured by them , have been of a long time exhibited unto , received , and enjoyed by those , who use them ; 3. That a profession of the Name and Faith of Christ by an holy and blameless conversation for many years together in the world , by a long continued course of mortification , self-denyal , fruitfulness in well doing , &c. is the truth and substance , the heart , life , and soul of that profession , which is made by being externally Baptized ; 4. ( And lastly ) That that which is a duty at one time , in respect of such and such circumstances , may cease to be , or may not be , a duty at another time , when circumstances are changed , many instances whereof might be readily given ? XXIII . Whether ought not the Law of Edification [ 1 Cor. 14. 26. ] to over-rule all Laws and Precepts concerning spiritual and Church-administrations , as the Law of Salus Populi ought to umpire and over-rule all politique Laws and Constitutions , in their respective Executions ? If so , ought not the Administration of Baptism to be rather appropriated unto Infants , then unto others , considering , 1. That God himself adjudged the Administration of the Ordinance of Circumcision ( an Ordinance the same with Baptism , though not in the shape and form of the letter , yet in strength and substance of the Spirit , as evidently appeareth from Rom. 4. 11. well understood , and diligently compared with Mark 1. 4. Luk. 3. 3 , &c. ) unto Infants , to be most edifying in the Church of the Jews ; otherwise it must be said that he ordered the Administration of it to the spiritual detriment and loss of those , to whom he gave it ; And , 2. That there can no reason , nor colour of reason be given , why , or how , the Administration of Baptism unto Infants in Christian Churches , should not as well be more edifying unto these , then an after-Administration of it would be , as the like Administration of Circumcision was unto the Jews ; 3. ( And lastly ) That whatsoever the wisdom of men may pretend and plead colourably and plausibly to the contrary , ought to give place to the determination and resolution of God himself ? Be silent , O all flesh , before the Lord , Zech. 2. 13. The Lord is in his holy Temple ; let all the Earth keep silence before him , Habak. 2. 20. although it be demonstrable enough , even by clear grounds and principles in reason , that to Baptize in Infancy , must needs be more edifying to the Church , then to transfer the Administration to maturity of years . XXIV . Whether is not the Baptizing of Children , by the Apostles and other Baptists appointed by them in their days , sufficiently signified and implyed in those passages ( especially in conjunction with the known Law and Custom of circumcising children amongst the Jews ) where they are recorded to have baptized housholds , or families , without exception of any person in any one of them ? as Act. 16. 33. 1 Cor. 1. 16. Act. 16. 15. &c. Or can there any arguments or conjectures be levyed from the Scriptures to prove the contrary , which will balance or hold weight against these ; considering , 1. That it is at no hand probable , that God , who had made a Law against him , that should open or dig a pit in his field , and not cover it d , would , not only have left the precept and perpetual example of circumcising Infants by the Jews , as a pit uncovered for Believers , both Jews and Gentiles under the Gospel , to fall into , by baptizing their Children , without giving the least notice of the alteration of his mind in this behalf , but also have digged this pit yet broader , deeper , and wider , by causing the baptizing of several families to be recorded in the New Testament , without the least mention or intimation of the passing by children in the Administration ; 2. That that which is commonly replyed to disable these passages as to the proof of Infant-Baptism , is extreamly weak , and no ways satisfactory ; viz. that it is elsewhere said of whole housholds and families that they believed , which ( say the Replyers ) doth not imply , that children are here included , or that they believed , this ( I say ) is unsatisfactory ; in as much as , 1. Children may in a sence ( and this very frequent in the Scriptures ) be said to believe , i. e. to be in the state and condition of Believers , in respect of the love and favor of God , in title to the Kingdom of Heaven , &c. yea and are by Christ himself ( in these respects ) expresly said to believe , Mat. 18. 6. And , 2. Were it granted , that children are in no sence capable of believing , and in this respect cannot be included , when it is said of whole houses , that they believed ; yet are they as capable of being Baptized , or ( as our Brethren will needs have it ) of being dipped ( yea in some respect more capable hereof ) as men ; and consequently can upon no tolerable account be thought to be excluded , when it is said of whole houses or families that they were dipped ; as ( for instance ) because , when Johns Disciples said , And all men come unto him , [ Joh. 3. 26. ] Children must needs be excluded , and not contained in the word , {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} , all men , in as much as they were in no capacity of coming ; it doth not follow from hence , that therefore when the Apostle saith , that Christ by the grace of God tasted Death for all men , [ Heb. 2. 9. ] and so again , that it is appointed for men ( meaning , all men ) once to dye , [ Heb. 9. 27. ] Children must be here excluded also , and not be comprehended in the general term , all men ; in as much as they are as well capable as men , of such a grace , as Christs dying for them imports , and so of dying themselves , though they are not capable of coming unto any man to be baptized : 3. Considering , that men ought not to contend with God , or to reject any part of his Counsel or Will , because it is only somewhat sparingly , and with some scantness of evidence , discovered in his Word , but to rest satisfied with that measure or degree of revelation of things , which he judgeth meet to vouchsafe unto them , until further light shall shine : 4. That they who are dissatisfied with that discovery , which learned Paedobaptists make unto them from the Scriptures , of the will and mind of God for the Baptizing of Infants , do readily embrace and entertain many other notions and opinions upon far weaker , and less lightsom grounds of conviction , as viz. the common Doctrines or Tenents concerning Original Sin , admission of women to the Lords Table , the observation of the Sabbath on the first day of the week ( yea some of them on the last day , ) the reception of the Soul into Heaven , and happiness , immediately upon death , ( with many other things , which we shall not now mention , ) not that I mention these with dislike of the common opinion about them all , but only to shew , that as the generality of the Jews rejected the true Messiah notwithstanding all the true and real Miracles which he wrought amongst them , and yet entertained false Messiahs one after another , with their counterfeit and lying miracles ; so do the generality of Anti-Paedobaptists reject Infant-Baptism , notwithstanding the many real and substantial proofs , by which it is commended and confirmed unto them , in the mean time bowing down their Judgments and Consciences to such Doctrines , which have little but hay and stubble to support them . 5. ( And lastly ) That God doth expect , that men should dig for the treasure of Truth , and of his Counsel , even where it lies much deeper under-ground , then Infant-Baptism doth in several of those Texts of Scripture , which have been argued by learned men of that Judgment , in proof thereof ; yea and hath reproved men for their unmanlike oscitancy , and neglect in this behalf ? Peruse and consider diligently these Texts and Passages at your leasure ( because it would be too long to argue them , ) Mat. 12 3 , 4 , 5 , 7. Mat. 23. 16 , 17 , 18 , 19 , &c. Mat. 22. 29 , 31 , 32 , &c. Luk 24. 25 , 26. Acts 7. 25 , 26. ( to omit others . ) XXV . Whether is the practise of demanding , or submitting unto , a Baptismal dipping , after a solemn dedication unto the service of Jesus Christ by a baptismal sprinkling , or ablution , anywhere countenanced in the Scriptures , or enjoyned , either by particularity , or expressness of precept or example ? If not , is not the practise of it traditional , and the product of humane discourse , as well , and as much , as the Baptizing of Infants ? And do not they who practise it , presume every whit as much , or rather far more , upon their own judgments and understandings , in making Infant-Baptism to be a meer nullity or nothing , the Scripture no where giving any such sentence , nor any syllable , letter , or tittle of any such sentence , against it , as they who make it an Ordinance of God , or rather ( to speak more properly ) a meet and necessary administration of an Ordinance of God ? considering , 1. That Baptism it self , i. e. the external act of Baptism , rightly so called , ( whether it be dipping , washing , or sprinkling , is not material to the case now in hand , Infants being alike capable of them all ) is by expressness of Scripture , an Ordinance , or appointment of God ; And 2. That Infants ( at least , of Beleevers ) not onely , are no where excluded by God from part and fellowship in the Administration , but are in several places and passages more then overtured as the most proper and meet Subjects of it ? XXVI . Whether , was not a dying the death of the uncircumcised c under the Law , and so a being punished with the uncircumcised d , matter of threatning , and an intimation of anger and displeasure in God ; importing , that the lives of uncircumcised persons in the world , were nothing so precious in his sighte , nor so tenderly watched over , nor so carefully protected and preserved by him , as the lives of those who were circumcised ? yea did not the threatning of the uncircumcised man-child , that his soul should be cut off from his people , because he had broken Gods Covenant , ( Gen. 17. 4. ) plainly signifie , that children uncircumcised , were much more obnoxious unto the stroke of death from the hand of God , then they would have been , or need to have been , if circumcised ? If then it be supposed , that Baptism is altogether as necessary , or of as high esteem with God , under the Gospel , as Circumcision was under the Law , can it reasonably be judged , or thought , that he is as tender and providentially watchful , over the lives of children or others , unbaptized , as he is over the lives of those who are baptized ? And if so , do not they who neglect or refuse , the baptizing of their children , reject the counsel of God against their lives and preservations , depriving them of that Interest in the speciall Providence of God for their peace and safety , which they might , and ought to , intitle them unto by Baptizing them ? And when children unbaptized are taken away by any sudden or strange hand of death , have not the Parents just cause to question , whether they were not accessary to their death , by leaving them amongst the unbaptized ones of the world ? XXVII . Whether were not the children of Israel , notwithstanding the express and strict Institution and command of God for the circumcising of the Males amongst them on the eight day , blameless under their non-Circumcision for forty yeers together , upon the account of that bodily inconvenience and danger , whereunto Circumcision , during their journying and travel through the wilderness , would in the eye of Reason have exposed them ? Or had they not sinned , by tempting the Providence of God , if under a pretence , or plea , of the commandment of God for their circumciseing , they had caused either themselves , or their children , to be circumcised , during such their travel , how long soever it had continued ? If so , do not they sin by tempting the Providence of God who are Authors , either to themselves or others , of being dipped over head and eares in water , where , and when , and whilst , such dipping cannot , both according to the principles of Reason , the natural course and operation of second causes , yea , and frequent experience it self , but endanger either their healths , or lives , or both ; yea though this be upon a pretext , or plea , that such dipping is the Institution , or command of God ? XXVIII . Whether doth the requiring of Faith , or a profession of Faith to be made by men and women in order to their being Baptized , by any better consequence prove , that Infants without such Faith , or Profession of Faith , ought not to be baptized , then Pauls injunction , which he commended to the Thessalonians , viz. That if any would not work , neither should he eat a , proveth , that neither ought children to eat , unless they work too , as well as men or women , who are healthfull and strong , and so capable of working ? Or then this prohibition of God of old concerning the eating of the Paschal Lamb , No uncircumcised person shall eat thereof b , proveth , that his intent was , that no person of woman kind , whether yong , or old , though daughters of Abraham , and otherwise sanctified , should eat thereof ? XXIX . Whether , if dipping , or a disposing , or conveying of the whole body under water , be of the essence and necessity of Baptism , are not they rather Se-Baptists , or Self-Baptisers , then Baptised ( according to the order of Christ ) by others , who themselves convey or dip under water their whole bodies , leaving onely their heads above the water to be bowed down , forced , or thrust under water , by the Baptizer ? Or is there either vola or vestigium , little or much of such a practise as this to be found in the Scriptures , where they speak of Baptism ? Or can he in any tolerable sence or construction be said to be the Architect , or builder of a Turret , or Steeple , who onely setteth the Weather-cock on the top of it , and not rather he , who buildeth the rest of the body and Fabrick hereof ? XXX . Whether , is there any particular or express Institution of Baptism to be found in the Scriptures ; I mean , any such Institution , as there is of Circumcision , and the Passover in the Old Testament , or of the Lords Supper in the New ; or which prescribeth and determineth all circumstances essentiall unto Baptism , as all the other do prescribe and determine all circumstances essentially requisite to their administrations respectively ? If not , do not they {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} , make themselves wise above that which is written , & ( constructively ) obtrude upon the consciences of men an Institution of their own , in the Name of the Ordinance and Institution of God , who undertake to prescribe and determine , either particularity of subject , or manner of Administration , in Baptism ? XXXI . Whether did not they amongst us , ( or at least the generality , and far greater part of them ) who have accepted and entred into the way of new-Baptism , and at present walk in it , receive that precious Faith from God , together with all those Graces or fruits of the Spirit , whereby they are , whatsoever they are in Christ , and towards God ; did they not ( I say ) receive all this blessedness from God , under the dispensation of their Infant-Baptism ? Or is there one of a thousand of those ingaged in this new way , who have added so much as the breadth of the least hair of their heads unto their former growth and stature in Christ , I do not say , by vertue or means of this their new Ingagement , but since , or after it ? Or is there not a visible and manifest change for the worse in very many of them , and this ( in all probability ) occasioned by an overweening conceit , that by means of their new baptizing , they are more excellent then their Neighbours , and too holy and near unto God to suffer themselves to be numbred amongst the members of other Churches ? Or do such things as these any way favour or strengthen the claim , which their way of Baptizing makes of being a Divine Ordinance , yea the onely true Baptism of God ? XXXII . Whether , amongst men and women , whose consciences have at any time been surprized with a Religious conceit of a necessity of new Baptism , and have accordingly submitted to it , have not the most Christianly-meek and humble on the one hand , and the most Judicious and Learned on the other hand , upon a little experience of this way , grown cool , and very indifferent in their thoughts about it ? yea and many of them repented of their surprizal and weakness in this kind , as Johannes O●colampadius , Johannes Denkius , Johannes Gaster , men of great learning , worth , and humility , ( with several others ) about Luthers dayes ; yea and some of like Character , of late amongst our selves , who might be named , if it were necessary or meet ? XXXIII . Whether , because Baptism is termed the Baptism of Repentance {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} , i. e. for , or towards , the remission of sins , ( Mar , 1. 4. ) doth it a whit more follow that children ought not to be Baptized , either because they cannot repent , or because they have no sins to be remitted unto them , then it doth , that children ought not to have been circumcised ; considering that Circumcision , the nature of it , and counsell of God in it , considered , may as truly be called , the Circumcision of Repentance , for the remission of sins , as Baptism , The Baptism of Repentance for the Remission of sins ; yea , the Apostle Paul himself giveth a definition of Circumcision , for substance and import of matter , the same with that of Baptism , when he calleth it , the seal of the righteousness of Faith , ( Rom. 4. 11. ) and however , Children are altogether as uncapable of Faith , as they are of Repentance ; and have no more need of the righteousness of Faith , then they have of remission of sins , these being but one and the same thing ? XXXIV . Whether , when the Apostle Peter speaketh thus to his new Converts , Acts 2. 38 , 39. Repent , and be baptized every one of you in the Name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins , and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost : For the promise is to you , and to your children , &c. Doth he so much enjoyn or exhort them to Repent in order to their being baptized , as encourage them both unto the one duty , and the other , upon the account of the Promise relating both to them , and their children , and the certainty of its being fulfilled and made good unto them both , upon their Repentance , and submission unto Baptism , respectively ? And if their title unto , and interest in , the Promise , be a ground or motive unto them [ the Parents ] to be baptized ; is not the like title and interest , in the children , a ground and motive also why they should be baptized ? XXXV . Whether doth God smell the assemblies [ or , in the assemblies ] of those , who judg themselves the onely Baptized persons under Heaven , with any such pleasure or delight , as he smelleth many the assemblies of those , who are called Unbaptized , by the other ? Or are the Church-meetings of the former filled with the glory and presence of God at any such rate , or to any such degree , as many the holy assemblies of the latter are ? Or are there any such manifestations of the Spirit , either in gifts , or in graces , in the tabernacles of the Baptized , as there are amongst those , who bear the reproach of Vnbaptized ? Or are the powers of the world to come any wayes so busie , active and stirring in the Churches , which call themselves Baptized , as they are in many the congregations , which are cast out to the Gentiles , as unclean and Un-baptized ? Or is not that good word of God , ( the Scriptures , ) as a sealed book in many the assemblies of the former , whereas even the deep things of God contained in it , are by the Holy Ghost revealed in many Churches of the latter ? Or are such differences as these , of no authority , interest , or import , to umpire or decide the controversie depending between the two Baptisms ? XXXVI . Whether are not children oft-times in Scripture comprehended under , or with , their Parents , men and women , &c. where they are not expresly mentioned , or named ; and particularly Jos. 25. 26. 1 Cor. 10. 1 , 2 * even as Subjects are under the names of their Kings , and Families and Descents , under the names of their Heads ? &c. Yea , are not both women and children to be understood , where men only are named ? ( See Mark 6. 44. Joh. 6. 10. compared with Mat. 14. 21. ) If so , doth not this argument or plea against Infant-Baptism , halt right-down ; In the Scriptures we find no mention of the Baptizing of Children , either by Christ , or his Apostles , or any others : therefore no children were Baptized by them ? Indeed if we could here find no mention of the Baptizing either men , or women , then the non-finding any mention neither of children baptized , were an argument of some authority and credit to prove , that there was none of this capacity , or age , baptized . XXXVII . Whether , in case it could be proved ( which yet hath not been proved , nor , I am full of belief , ever will be , the proofs lying much more strong and pregnant for it , then against it ) that there were no children baptized during the Apostles days , doth it by any whit better consequence follow from hence , that therefore children ought not now to be ( or might not then , as to point of simple lawfulness , have been ) baptized , then from the non-circumcising of the Jewish children for forty years together ( Jos. 5. 5. ) viz , during the whole time of their journeying through the wilderness , it follows , that neither ought they to have been circumcised afterwards , especially considering , 1. That there may be many more , and more weighty , reasons ( though possibly unknown unto us ) why neither Christ , nor his Apostles , should baptize children in their days , though the lawfulness , yea and necessity of their baptizing , at other times , and in some cases , be supposed , then there was why the Israelites should omit the circumcising of their children for those forty years together , which were specified ; And , 2. That the Apostle Paul saith , that he was not sent to baptize , but to preach the Gospel ; [ meaning , that baptizing , whether personally , or by commissioning or delegating others hereunto , was not only not the principal , but not any considerable end of his sending , but the publishing and preaching of the Gospel , ] for if he was not sent to baptize [ meaning , neither one age , nor one sex , or other , ] neither could he be sent to baptize children ; and if he was not sent to baptize , either one , or other , [ in the sence declared , ] neither was the Lord Christ himself , nor the rest of the Apostles sent about this work ( in such a sence , ) What marvel then is it , that Persons sent about matters incomparably greater and more weighty , should not be so throughly intent upon things of a secondary and lighter consequence , as to prosecute them to the uttermost of what they lawfully might , yea and in case of a lighter burthen upon their shoulder in those more important affairs , had been bound to do ? Or are there not many cases , wherein a man may break a Law , [ i. e. a standing Law , or a Law provided for ordinary cases ] and yet be blameless ? yea and some cases , wherein he may do it with commendation ? See Mat. 12. 3 , 4 , 5. 2 Cor. 11. 17 , 18 , 21. 1 Joh. 3. 16. XXXVIII . Whether is not that principle , or humor , in the children of new Baptism , of making such sacred treasure hereof as generally they do , estimating Christianity it self , and acceptance with God , by it , counting all persons unclean and unholy , and not meet for Church-communion , who submit not unto it &c. thus making Gods Nothing , their All things ; is not this humor ( I say ) the express character of such persons in all ages , who have unduly , and without cause , broken the bands of unity , love , and peace , wherein they had been sometimes bound up in a sweet bundle of Christianity with other Churches , to walk in some crooked and by-way of particular choyce by themselves , to the offence , grief , and reproach of those Churches , from which , upon such an account , they rent themselves ? Or did not Eunomius the Heretique , who maintained this Doctrine ( by way of dissent from the Churches of Christ ) That the Son of God is altogether unlike the Father , and the Holy Ghost unlike the Son , notwithstanding the groundlessness and erroneousness of it , yet attribute this high and sacred priviledg unto it , that whosoever believed it could not possibly perish , how wickedly soever he lived a ? Or did not the Donatists ascribe all Christian worth and excellency to their Sect and Opinions , denying that there was any true Church of Christ in all the World , but only amongst them , and despising all other Christians , but themselves , and yet giving entertainment to most vile and wicked men in their Communion b , as if the giving of the right hand of fellowship unto them in their way , rendered men religious and holy , in the midst of the practice of all wickedness ? Or did not Theophanes attribute so much to the use of Images in Religious Worship , that he censured Constantine the Emperor ( by-named , Copronymus ) as an Apostate from God , for opposing Images , and Idol-worship c ? Or did not some Jewish Teachers labor to possess men with such an high opinion of their Tradition and practice of washing hands before meat , as that they ought to look upon him , who should neglect or not observe it , as one that lieth with an Harlot d ? Or did not the Author and Abettors of that hideous Doctrine , That God seeth no sin in persons justified , pronounce all those Traytors to the Blood of Christ , that held the contrary e ? Or did not the Monks , who ( generally ) were the compilers of the Histories of this Nation in former times , place so much of the very essence ( as it were ) of Religion , in reverencing Bishops and Monks of these times , that ( as Daniel , a late English Historian observeth ) they personated all their Princes , either Religious , or irreligious , as they humored , or offended , the Bishops rochet , and the Monks belly f ? Or did not Theodore the Abbot , give this advice to a Monk , who ( as himself informed the said Abbot ) was threatened by the Devil , that he would never cease vexing and molesting him by temptations unto fornication , until he left worshiping the Image of the blessed Virgin ; did not ( I say ) this Abbot give this advice to the Monk in his case , that it were better that he frequented all the stews in the City , then not to worship Christ and his Mother in an Image g ? Or do not all these instances ( with many more that might be added unto them , of like consideration ) plainly shew and prove , that to conceit and speak glorious things , of any private opinion , or by-practice , is an argument of very great probability ( at least ) that this , both opinion , and practice , are mens own , or from themselves , and not from God , or agreeable unto his Word ? Or are there not several grounds , and these near at hand , very material and weighty , to strengthen this conjecture ? yea and when the Apostle Peter saith , that those that are unlearned and unstable , pervert , or wrest , the Scriptures , to their own destruction , doth not this great danger or misery arise from hence , that they who do wrest the Scriptures , are inordinately conceited of , and confidently rest and build upon , such notions , sences , and opinions , which are engendered and begotten in their minds or consciences , by this Scripture-wresting ? XXXIX . Whether , is not the Testimony of that worthy , zealous , and learned Martyr Mr John Philpot ( recorded in a letter written by him to a freind of his , a prisoner in Newgate at the same time ) worthy credit and beliefe , wherein he affirms , that Auxentius , an Arrian heretique , ( with his adherents ) was one of the first that denyed the Baptism of children , and next after him , Pelagius the heretique ? Or can Augustin be suspected , at least by those who have any Competent knowledg of his unparallel'd candor and ingenuity , to speake any thing but the truth , when he saith that the Baptizing of Infants was a custom of the Christian Church in his days , Salubriter firmata , wholsomely ratified and confirmed a : in another place , That the universal Church of Christ always held , or retained the custom of Baptizing children even from the Apostles , and that it was not instituted by any Council ; and that no Christian would say that children were impertinently , or in vain baptized b ( with much more to like purpose . ) Or is not the testimony of Ierome worthy to be received , who affirmeth , that he ( with the Orthodox Christians in his days ) held one Baptism , which they affirmed ought to be administred in the same Sacramental words unto Infants , and those of riper years . c XL . Whether can it proved from the Scriptures , or by any argument whatsoever , that either Faith , or a profession , of Faith , is either the only , or the best ground , either divisim or conjunctim , whereon to build a Baptismal administration ? Or whether did not the Apostles and those who baptized by their direction and order in their days , insist upon believing , and profession of believing , with men and women , who were willing , or desirous , to be baptized , onely for want of better , and of better assured grounds , whereon to proceed to the baptizing of such persons ? Or did they insist upon either of these qualifications , in reference to the said Administration , simply and meerly , as , or because , they were such , or in respect of their positive and absolute nature , and not rather , in respect of their relative natures , or properties , viz. as they were significative , or declarative unto them [ the Baptizers ] and unto others , of the happy estate of those in whome they were found , as being persons in Grace and favour with God ? Otherwise , how could the Lord Christ himself , having no such Faith , as that which the Apostles and their Baptists required ( together with the profession of it ) in those , whom they Baptized , be a meet or duly qualified subject of this Administration ? Or will any man presume to say , that he was Baptized , either contrary unto , or besides , the rule , or mind of God , touching persons meet to be Baptized , especially when as himself renders this account why he submitted himself unto , and desired , Biptism , viz. that it became him to fulfil all RIGHTEOVSNES a ? And besides , is it not altogether irrational to imagine or think , that Faith should be required in order unto Baptism , simply for Faiths sake ? or profession of Faith , meerly for this Professions sake ? Or that God , or Christ , should enjoyn a requirement of them upon such a slender account as this ? Or that they would ever have been nominated by them for qualifications unto Baptism in men and women , unless they had been so significative or declarative , as hath been said , I mean , of the gracious acceptance of such persons , in whom they are , with God ? Yea or unless they had been declarative in this kind , upon the best terms , whereof persons newly converted from ways of sin unto God , are capable , there being no other way , or means , more effectual or proper for such persons to make known their standing , or being , in the favor of God , unto others , then by a profession of their believing in Jesus Christ ; how ever it be most true , that even such declarations as these , many times deceive those , who accept of them , and trust to them , though without sin in those , who are so deceived ? Now then , if Faith , and profession of Faith , qualifie for Baptism , meerly in respect of their relation , and as they report ( with such credit as appertains to them , and is meet to be given them by men ) the persons in whom they are , and from whom they proceed , to be in an estate of Grace and Favor with God , is it not as evident as the Sun at noon day , that all persons of mankind , who are , or may be known by more assured testimonies and declarations , then any mans own profession of his own Faith amounts unto , to be in the same , or like grace and favor with God , to be every whit as regularly , and as compleatly qualified for Baptism , as the greatest and loudest Professors of their Faith under Heaven ? If so , are not Infants and Children before the commission of actual sin , to whom God himself hath given a loud and express testimony from Heaven , that they are in grace and favor with him , and that to them , and such as they are , belongeth the Kingdom of Heaven , &c. are they not ( I say ) upon this account fully declared to be , not only or simply , regular and meet subjects of Baptism , but subjects in this kind of the highest , and most unquestionable qualifications ? For by one Spirit [ not by one , or the same , water , or dipping ] we are all baptized into one Body . 1 Cor. 12. 13. What therefore God hath joyned together , let no man put asunder . Matt. 19. 6. Baptismus sine impietatis scelere contēmni nequit : & gravissimam reprehensionem coràm Deo & hominibus merentur , qui tantum beneficium differunt , vel sibi , vel suis liberis accipere . B●za Opusc. p. 334. Tingimus pueros , tingimus provectioris aetatis : — Nullam aetatem praecepit Baptismo Christus , sed neque ullam vetuit , Ecclesiae Norlingensis Pastores . Scultet . Annal. Anno 1525. FINIS . Notes, typically marginal, from the original text Notes for div A85408e-340 a Gal ▪ 5. 6. b 1 Cor. 7. 19. c 1 Cor. 5. 29. V● . Cameron . Myroth . p. 229. & Ambross●m in locum . I know the place is much vexed with Interpreters and interpretations , but certain I am that the sence here supposed and argued upon , is the m●st grammatical , and best comporting with the propriety of he words and phrase● . a 1 Sam. 21. 6 a Matt. 12. 7 a Acts 10. 15 a Matt. 16. 18 a 2 Tim. 2. 23 b Tit. 3. 9. a 1 Cor. 12. 25 a Gal. 5. 2. u●de multi post Baptismum proficientes , & maxime qui Infantes vel pueri baptizati sunt , &c. Aug. de Baptismo contra Donatistas lib. 4. c. 14. d Exod. 21. 33 34 Similia similium occupait nomina . Hur . Grot. in Act. 13 33. Multa offi●mantur simpliciter & formaliter , quae per equivalentiam seu comparationem tantum sunt intelligenda : Vid. ●ai , 66. 3. 1 Tim. 5. 8 Matt. 19. 12 Rom. 11 , 15 , &c. c Ezek. 28. 10. 31 , 18. 32. 19. 21. d Jer. 9. 25. Ezek. 32 19. ●1 Sam. 17. 26 , 36. a 2 Thes. 3. 10. b Exod. 12. 48. Vide Scultet . Annal. Anno 1521 , & 1525 , &c. * See also Mat : 4 : 4 : & 12 : 12 : ( besides many others . ) a Eunomius — defendit hanc haeresin , dissimilem per omnia Pa●r● asse●ens Filium , & Filio Spiritum sanctum . Fertur etiam usque adeo fuisse bonis moribus inimicus , ut asseveraret , quod nihil cuique obesset quorumlibet perpetratio ac perseverantia peccator rum , si hujus , quae ab il o docebatur , fidei particeps effet . Aug. de Haeres . c. 54 b Nam illi [ Donatistae ] dicebant universum orbem Christianum Ecclesiam non habere — Deinde , qui prae le omnes alios Christianos condemnabant , severitatem censurae in suos relaxaverant , & in suis coetibus homines impurissimos , ut Optato● , Gildoniano● , Primianosque patiebantur . P. Mar●y● , Loc. Class. 4. c. 5. sect. 15. c Theophanes miscel. . l. 21. c. ult , & Joseph Mede , Apostacy of latter times . p. 131 d Ainsworth in Levit. 15. 12 e P. Gunter , Sermon of Justification , printed anno 1615. Preface to the Reader , p. 3. f Smectymnuus Vindicat. p 8. g Mede , Apostacy of latter times , p. 140 a De peccatonum meritis &c. lib. 3. c. 13. b Quod traditum cenet universitas Ecclesi●… . Cum parvuli infantes baptizantur , nullus Christianorum dixerit eos inaniter baptizari . Et si quisquam in hac re authoritatem divinam quaerat , quanquam quod universa tenet Ecclesia , nec conciliis institutum , sed semper retentum est , non nisi authoritate Apostolica traditum rectissime creditur , tamen veraciter continere possumus quid valeat in parvulis baptismi sacramentum ex circumcisione carnis , quam prior populus accepit , &c. Aug. de Baptismo contra Donat. l. 4. c. 23. c Baptisma unum tenemus , quod iisdem sacramenti verbis in insantibus , quibus etiam in majoribus , asserimus esse celebrandum . Hieron. t. 4. Symboli explan. . ad Dama●um . a Mat. 3. 15 That Children are in favor with God , and so declared , see briefly redemp. . Redeemed , p. 330 , 516 , 517.