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           A
           DISSUASIVE
           From
           POPERY
           Sent
           in
           a
           LETTER
           From
           A.
           B.
           to
           C.
           D.
           
        
         
           DVBLN
           .
           Printed
           by
           
             Benjamin
             Took
          
           and
           
             John
             Crook
          
           Printers
           to
           the
           King
           's
           Most
           Excellent
           Majesty
           ;
           and
           are
           to
           be
           sold
           by
           
             Mary
             Crook
          
           &
           
             Andrew
             Crook
          
           at
           his
           Majesties
           Printing-house
           in
           Skinner-Row
           .
           1681.
           
        
      
       
         
         
           
             Honoured
             Sir
             ,
          
        
         
           THe
           last
           time
           we
           were
           together
           ,
           you
           told
           me
           ,
           that
           a
           friend
           of
           yours
           long'd
           to
           see
           in
           a
           paper
           under
           my
           hand
           the
           reasons
           of
           my
           unkindness
           to
           Popery
           .
           To
           which
           he
           (
           or
           you
           for
           him
           )
           obligingly
           added
           ,
           that
           I
           did
           not
           appear
           unkind
           to
           the
           persons
           of
           Papists
           ,
           and
           that
           indifferency
           in
           judging
           is
           there
           likelyest
           to
           be
           found
           ,
           where
           Bitternes
           of
           humour
           is
           not
           prevalent
           .
        
         
           Now
           Sir
           though
           I
           know
           and
           very
           much
           honour
           you
           ,
           yet
           I
           am
           not
           acquainted
           with
           your
           friend
           ,
           and
           am
           sensible
           that
           use
           may
           be
           made
           of
           such
           a
           paper
           to
           my
           disadvantage
           .
           How
           ever
           I
           here
           send
           it
           you
           ;
           for
           I
           do
           really
           look
           upon
           Protestancy
           (
           That
           of
           the
           Church
           of
           England
           )
           to
           be
           so
           high
           a
           Blessing
           both
           to
           the
           particular
           professors
           of
           it
           ,
           and
           to
           the
           Country
           where
           it
           is
           embrac'd
           ,
           that
           I
           could
           ,
           adventure
           very
           far
           in
           whatsoever
           should
           promise
           the
           advancement
           of
           it
           .
        
         
           The
           paper
           may
           be
           shewn
           as
           you
           or
           your
           friend
           shall
           think
           fit
           ;
           but
           I
           would
           not
           have
           it
           published
           in
           Print
           ;
           t
           is
           not
           studied
           enough
           for
           that
           .
        
      
    
     
       
         
         
           A
           Dissuasive
           from
           Popery
           .
        
         
           I
           Reduce
           my
           dislikes
           of
           Popery
           to
           two
           Heads
           ,
           the
           incrediblenes
           of
           its
           Doctrins
           ,
           and
           the
           grievousness
           of
           the
           Yoke
           imposed
           on
           its
           Professors
           .
           Of
           its
           incrdible
           Doctrins
           .
           I
           name
           first
           Transubstantiation
           .
        
         
           In
           the
           way
           of
           Nature
           this
           is
           not
           so
           properly
           called
           incredible
           ,
           as
           absurd
           and
           impossible
           ;
           It
           makes
           the
           Body
           of
           Christ
           to
           be
           in
           a
           Thousand
           places
           at
           once
           .
           It
           makes
           that
           Body
           wear
           its
           own
           quantity
           under
           the
           dimensions
           of
           a
           Wafer
           ,
           
             that
             is
          
           ,
           to
           have
           its
           own
           bigness
           but
           to
           be
           never
           the
           bigger
           for
           it
           .
           It
           makes
           the
           accidents
           of
           Bread
           and
           Wine
           Exist
           without
           a
           subject
           ;
           
             that
             is
          
           ,
           there
           is
           whiteness
           and
           there
           is
           moisture
           ,
           but
           there
           is
           nothing
           Either
           white
           or
           moist
           ,
           It
           makes
           the
           accidents
           of
           Bread
           and
           Wine
           to
           nourish
           the
           Eaters
           and
           Drinkers
           of
           them
           ▪
           
             that
             is
          
           ,
           to
           be
           turned
           into
           Substances
           .
           &c.
           To
           all
           which
           it
           is
           answerd
           
             that
             Gods
             power
             
             is
             sufficient
             to
             overcome
             all
             these
             Difficulties
             ,
          
           Neither
           will
           I
           dispute
           his
           Power
           where
           his
           Will
           is
           revealed
           .
           But
           I
           say
           it
           is
           incredible
           that
           Transubstantiation
           in
           the
           Eucharist
           should
           be
           the
           will
           of
           God.
           For
           All
           other
           Miracles
           recorded
           in
           the
           Holy
           Scriptures
           serv'd
           to
           some
           End.
           Elias
           called
           fire
           from
           Heaven
           ,
           
             to
             make
             it
             appear
             that
             the
             Lord
             is
             God
             ,
             and
             that
             he
             was
             his
             servant
          
           So
           Christ
           raised
           up
           the
           widow's
           son
           ,
           
             for
             the
             comfort
             of
             the
             widow
             ,
             and
             for
             the
             manifestation
             of
             his
             own
             Power
             .
          
           But
           Transubstantiation
           serves
           to
           no
           End
           that
           has
           been
           yet
           nam'd
           ;
           It
           convices
           no
           body
           ,
           it
           profits
           no
           body
           .
           Our
           Saviour
           says
           so
           ,
           Jo
           :
           6.
           
             the
             flesh
             profits
             not
          
           .
           That
           is
           ,
           by
           being
           bodily
           Eaten
           .
           Christs
           flesh
           profits
           by
           being
           taken
           into
           God
           ;
           by
           suffering
           upon
           the
           Cross
           ,
           by
           being
           believed
           on
           ;
           but
           by
           being
           bodily
           Eaten
           ,
           it
           has
           no
           effect
           either
           upon
           the
           body
           ;
           or
           the
           Soul
           of
           the
           cater
           .
           Not
           upon
           the
           body
           ,
           for
           that
           they
           confess
           is
           concern'd
           only
           in
           the
           accidents
           of
           the
           bread
           and
           wine
           departed
           .
           Nor
           upon
           the
           Soul
           ,
           for
           that
           feeds
           on
           Christ
           only
           Spiritually
           ,
           
           viz.
           by
           Faith
           ,
           Hope
           and
           Charity
           .
           Now
           is
           it
           credible
           that
           God
           would
           worke
           so
           many
           miracles
           as
           are
           in
           the
           bowells
           of
           Transubstantiation
           ,
           for
           no
           end
           in
           the
           World
           ?
        
         
           2ly
           ,
           The
           course
           of
           nature
           is
           certainly
           the
           will
           of
           God
           ;
           therefore
           we
           must
           not
           believe
           it
           is
           inverted
           ,
           but
           where
           God
           himself
           declares
           it
           is
           so
           .
           Here
           they
           say
           God
           has
           declar'd
           for
           Transubstantiation
           in
           these
           words
           :
           
             This
             is
             my
             body
          
           &c.
           
           I
           answer
           ,
           no
           more
           then
           in
           these
           :
           
             that
             rock
             was
             Christ
          
           .
           Or
           then
           in
           these
           of
           the
           same
           Apostle
           :
           
             We
             are
             all
             one
             bread
          
           .
           For
           all
           three
           sentences
           are
           equally
           positive
           ,
           and
           are
           equally
           the
           word
           of
           God.
           Now
           ,
           was
           the
           rock
           which
           followed
           the
           Israelites
           in
           the
           wilderness
           turned
           into
           the
           substance
           of
           Christ
           not
           then
           born
           ?
           Or
           are
           all
           Christians
           turned
           substantially
           into
           bread
           ?
           No
           ,
           all
           say
           ,
           
             that
             rock
             was
             Christ
          
           imports
           no
           more
           then
           
             that
             rock
             was
             the
             representative
             of
             Christ
             .
             We
             are
             all
             one
             bread
          
           ;
           that
           is
           ,
           
             we
             are
             all
             represented
             by
             one
             bread
          
           ;
           Why
           not
           then
           ,
           
             this
             is
             my
             body
          
           ,
           that
           is
           ,
           
             this
             is
             the
             representative
             of
             my
             body
             ?
          
           If
           it
           be
           lawful
           to
           take
           one
           word
           
           of
           God
           figuratively
           ,
           it
           cannot
           be
           wicked
           to
           take
           another
           so
           ,
           if
           the
           matter
           equally
           requires
           .
           And
           certainly
           there
           can
           be
           no
           greater
           necessity
           any
           where
           ,
           than
           in
           the
           Eucharist
           of
           flying
           from
           Transubstantiation
           to
           a
           figure
           .
        
         
           3ly
           .
           t
           is
           Incredible
           that
           the
           Apostles
           or
           the
           Primitive
           Church
           ever
           thought
           of
           Transubstantiation
           ;
           When
           our
           Saviour
           said
           
             I
             go
             to
             the
             Father
          
           ,
           the
           Disciples
           asked
           what
           it
           was
           .
           When
           he
           told
           the
           
             Parable
             of
             the
             Sower
          
           ,
           they
           asked
           what
           it
           meant
           ,
           If
           they
           had
           thought
           of
           a
           change
           of
           substance
           by
           the
           words
           of
           Consecration
           ,
           would
           they
           not
           have
           said
           :
           
             how
             can
             this
             be
          
           ?
           do
           we
           not
           see
           there
           as
           formerly
           ?
           and
           the
           bread
           and
           wine
           as
           formerly
           ?
           But
           he
           had
           instructed
           them
           Jo.
           6.
           how
           
             his
             flesh
          
           is
           
             meat
             indeed
             and
             his
             blood
             drink
             indeed
             ,
          
           to
           wit
           Spiritually
           not
           bodily
           ,
           therefore
           they
           boggl'd
           not
           .
        
         
           Again
           ,
           not
           one
           Apostle
           nor
           one
           Christian
           Doctor
           for
           above
           six
           hundred
           years
           after
           Christ
           either
           mentions
           this
           change
           of
           substances
           ,
           or
           (
           in
           all
           those
           vast
           volumnes
           )
           says
           one
           word
           that
           infers
           it
           .
           The
           Christians
           
           spoke
           not
           of
           it
           ;
           neither
           did
           the
           Jews
           or
           heathens
           object
           it
           ;
           Yet
           Transubstantiation
           in
           the
           eye
           of
           an
           unbeliever
           is
           a
           masse
           of
           contradictions
           .
        
         
           What
           work
           would
           Lucian
           have
           made
           with
           it
           ?
           But
           no
           such
           matter
           is
           mentioned
           by
           that
           scoffer
           ,
           or
           by
           Porphyry
           ,
           or
           Festus
           ,
           or
           Julian
           the
           Apostate
           &c.
           
           In
           so
           incredible
           a
           doctrine
           would
           Beringarius
           (
           above
           a
           thousand
           years
           after
           Christ
           )
           have
           been
           the
           first
           Heritique
           ?
           If
           Transubstantiation
           had
           been
           the
           setl'd
           doctrine
           of
           the
           Church
           in
           the
           days
           of
           Charlemaigne
           ,
           would
           that
           Emperour
           have
           writ
           to
           Bertram
           the
           Priest
           for
           his
           opinion
           of
           the
           real
           Presence
           ?
           Would
           Bertram
           have
           positively
           answered
           that
           
             the
             host
             is
             not
             the
             same
             body
             of
             Christ
             which
             was
             born
             of
             the
             Virgin
          
           Mary
           ?
           Only
           that
           body
           of
           Christ
           which
           was
           born
           of
           the
           Virgin
           Mary
           is
           to
           be
           ador'd
           ,
           therefore
           the
           adoration
           of
           the
           host
           was
           not
           in
           fashion
           in
           Bertrams
           days
           .
        
         
           4ly
           .
           As
           there
           is
           nothing
           in
           the
           Holy
           Scripture
           or
           ancient
           Fathers
           which
           can
           be
           rationally
           brought
           in
           favour
           of
           Transubstantiation
           ,
           
           so
           there
           are
           in
           them
           very
           many
           sayings
           which
           seem
           incompatible
           with
           it
           .
           Mat
           :
           26.
           
           
             Me
             yee
             have
             not
             always
          
           .
           Which
           was
           spoken
           because
           of
           his
           Death
           and
           Ascension
           .
           Hear
           St.
           Austin
           upon
           it
           .
           
             Non
             semper
          
           &c.
           
             Not
             always
             according
             to
             his
             bodily
             presence
             ,
             but
             as
             to
             his
             Majesty
             ,
             as
             to
             his
             Providence
             ,
             as
             to
             his
             invisible
             Grace
             is
             fulfilled
             that
             :
             Behold
             I
             am
             with
             you
             to
             the
             end
             of
             the
             World.
          
           So
           Act.
           3.
           31.
           
           
             Whom
             the
             Heavens
             must
             contain
             till
             the
             restitution
             of
             all
             things
             .
             Yes
             ,
          
           say
           they
           ,
           
             he
             is
             only
             in
             Heaven
             locally
             ,
             and
             in
             the
             Host
             but
             sacramentally
             and
             not
             as
             in
             a
             place
             ;
             his
             whole
             body
             being
             in
             the
             least
             part
             of
             the
             Host
             if
             separate
             from
             the
             other
             parts
             .
          
           Which
           to
           St.
           Austin
           I
           am
           sure
           would
           have
           imported
           that
           Christ
           is
           really
           in
           Heaven
           and
           not
           really
           in
           the
           Sacrament
           ;
           for
           he
           says
           upon
           Psalm
           .
           33.
           
           
             Si
             spatia
          
           &c.
           
             If
             space
             of
             place
             be
             taken
             from
             a
             body
             it
             is
             no
             where
             ,
             that
             is
             ,
             it
             is
             not
             .
          
           Does
           this
           sound
           as
           if
           he
           understood
           the
           quillets
           of
           Transubstantiation
           ?
           Again
           to
           Boniface
           ep
           .
           25.
           
           
             Si
             Sacramenta
          
           &c.
           
             If
             Sacraments
             had
             not
             the
             likeness
             of
             the
             things
             whereof
             
             they
             are
             Sacraments
             ,
             they
             would
             not
             be
             sacraments
             ;
             and
             because
             of
             this
             likeness
             they
             often
             take
             the
             names
             of
             the
             things
             themselves
             ;
             As
             therefore
             the
             Sacrament
             of
             the
             body
             of
             Christ
             is
             in
             some
             sort
             the
             body
             of
             Christ
             ,
             and
             the
             Sacrament
             of
             the
             blood
             of
             Christ
             ,
             is
             the
             blood
             of
             Christ
             ,
             so
             the
             Sacrament
             of
             faith
             is
             faith
             .
             And
             against
          
           Adimantus
           the
           Manichee
           :
           
             Non
             dubitavit
          
           &c.
           
             he
             doubted
             not
             to
             say
             :
             this
             is
             my
             body
             when
             he
             gave
             the
             sign
             of
             his
             body
             .
          
           And
           upon
           Psal
           ,
           3.
           
             mira
             est
             patientia
          
           &c.
           
           
             Wonderful
             is
             the
             patience
             of
             Christ
             who
             entertained
          
           Judas
           
             at
             that
             banquet
             wherein
             he
             gave
             his
             disciples
             the
             figure
             of
             his
             body
             and
             his
             blood
             .
          
           And
           St.
           Ambrose
           de
           Sacramentis
           :
           
             Non
             iste
             panis
          
           &c.
           
             not
             that
             bread
             which
             goes
             down
             into
             the
             belly
             ,
             but
             the
             bread
             of
             Eternal
             life
             which
             supports
             the
             soul
             .
          
           Many
           such
           other
           sayings
           the
           Reader
           may
           find
           cited
           by
           old
           Bertram
           and
           of
           late
           by
           all
           the
           Protestant
           writers
           ;
           but
           not
           a
           word
           like
           them
           is
           in
           any
           Roman
           Catholique
           authour
           since
           the
           Council
           of
           Lateran
           .
           The
           stile
           of
           the
           Doctours
           is
           not
           altered
           for
           nothing
           .
           And
           so
           much
           for
           Transubstantiation
           .
           
           
           
           
        
         
         
           Secondly
           ,
           I
           name
           Purgatory
           for
           an
           incredible
           doctrin
           ,
           Purgatory
           as
           maintained
           in
           the
           Church
           of
           Rome
           is
           a
           prison
           at
           the
           edge
           of
           hell
           ,
           where
           souls
           are
           deteined
           till
           by
           suffering
           they
           satisfy
           for
           such
           venial
           sins
           as
           they
           dyed
           under
           ,
           or
           for
           mortal
           sins
           for
           which
           they
           had
           not
           perfectly
           done
           their
           pennance
           .
           The
           pains
           differ
           from
           hell
           fire
           only
           in
           being
           Temporary
           ;
           and
           the
           souls
           which
           suffer
           them
           are
           in
           high
           Charity
           ,
           and
           at
           the
           last
           gasp
           were
           purg'd
           from
           all
           unfiting
           affections
           ;
           yet
           must
           they
           ly
           here
           and
           fry
           for
           their
           past
           trespasses
           ,
           till
           the
           utmost
           farthing
           be
           pay'd
           .
           And
           all
           their
           own
           charity
           avails
           nothing
           towards
           their
           deliverance
           ,
           but
           they
           are
           ordinarily
           ransom'd
           from
           long
           durance
           by
           the
           Charity
           of
           their
           friends
           on
           earth
           layd
           out
           upon
           Masses
           ,
           Pilgrimages
           &c.
           
           And
           upon
           some
           occasions
           whole
           sholes
           are
           let
           out
           by
           the
           Popes
           Indulgence
           .
        
         
           Now
           I
           say
           this
           is
           an
           incredible
           doctrine
           in
           it self
           ,
           for
           ,
           1.
           the
           Christian
           faith
           is
           that
           Christ
           satisfied
           for
           the
           sins
           of
           the
           World
           ,
           how
           then
           can
           souls
           suffer
           meerly
           for
           the
           
           satisfaction
           of
           the
           Divine
           Justice
           ?
           Punishments
           in
           this
           World
           are
           our
           corrections
           ,
           but
           punishing
           when
           there
           can
           be
           no
           amendment
           must
           be
           a
           meer
           wrecking
           of
           vengeance
           ,
           t
           is
           so
           in
           hell
           ,
           and
           they
           say
           it
           is
           so
           in
           Purgatory
           .
           2.
           t
           is
           incredible
           that
           God
           should
           so
           horribly
           afflict
           those
           Souls
           which
           so
           entirely
           love
           him
           ,
           and
           which
           he
           so
           highly
           loves
           .
           3.
           
           T
           is
           incredible
           that
           venial
           sins
           which
           upon
           earth
           are
           purg'd
           with
           an
           Ave
           ,
           a
           Pater
           noster
           ,
           a
           thump
           on
           the
           brest
           ,
           or
           sprinkling
           of
           a
           little
           holy
           water
           should
           after
           death
           merit
           such
           horrible
           torments
           ,
           and
           which
           for
           ought
           I
           can
           hear
           may
           last
           many
           years
           .
           4.
           
           If
           these
           sins
           do
           merit
           the
           great
           pains
           of
           Purgatory
           ,
           then
           't
           is
           incredible
           that
           a
           Masse
           ,
           or
           a
           pilgrimage
           should
           pay
           the
           debt
           .
           5.
           
           If
           Purgatory
           be
           a
           necessary
           and
           also
           an
           assured
           passage
           into
           heaven
           ,
           t
           is
           incredible
           that
           any
           fire
           there
           can
           be
           a
           torment
           ;
           for
           the
           way
           to
           blisse
           is
           happy
           ,
           In
           this
           world
           hope
           of
           salvation
           made
           Martyrs
           endure
           tortures
           with
           patience
           ,
           but
           that
           torture
           which
           brings
           with
           it
           assurance
           is
           matter
           of
           triumph
           .
           6.
           
           'T
           is
           
           incredible
           that
           souls
           should
           be
           sensible
           of
           bodily
           fire
           :
           who
           can
           imagin
           what
           a
           scorch'd
           Soul
           is
           ?
           or
           how
           fire
           can
           torment
           the
           understanding
           or
           the
           Wil
           ?
           And
           the
           seperated
           soul
           has
           nothing
           in
           it
           besides
           them
           two
           .
           But
           to
           all
           this
           I
           am
           answered
           as
           I
           was
           about
           Transubstantiation
           ,
           that
           God's
           power
           is
           incomprehensible
           ,
           and
           his
           ways
           past
           finding
           out
           .
           However
           ,
           I
           say
           Purgatory
           being
           so
           Irrational
           in
           it self
           has
           need
           to
           be
           well
           pro'vd
           from
           abroad
           ;
           I
           mean
           by
           Texts
           of
           Scripture
           ,
           and
           Expositions
           of
           ancient
           Fathers
           :
           But
           there
           is
           not
           one
           Text
           in
           the
           whole
           Bible
           applyed
           to
           this
           Purgatory
           till
           after
           
             S.
             Austin
          
           .
           Nay
           t
           is
           impossible
           that
           many
           of
           the
           Ancient
           Fathers
           should
           hold
           Purgatory
           as
           it
           is
           now
           held
           in
           the
           Church
           of
           Rome
           ;
           for
           they
           held
           that
           no
           Souls
           (
           at
           least
           very
           few
           of
           the
           most
           perfect
           )
           go
           to
           Heaven
           till
           the
           day
           of
           Judgment
           ;
           and
           that
           in
           the
           interim
           they
           are
           kept
           in
           receptacles
           without
           any
           pain
           but
           that
           of
           delay'd
           Happiness
           ;
           and
           that
           at
           the
           day
           of
           Judgement
           they
           must
           all
           pass
           through
           fire
           ;
           Origen
           :
           in
           
             Psalm
             :
             36.
             
             Vt
             ego
             arbitror
          
           &c.
           
             As
             I
             think
             
             it
             is
             necessary
             for
             us
             all
             to
             come
             to
             that
             fire
             :
             though
             one
             be
             a
          
           Paul
           
             or
             a
          
           Peter
           ;
           
             Such
             a
             one
             indeed
             shall
             be
             told
             :
             though
             thou
             goest
             through
             the
             flame
             it
             shall
             not
             burn
             thee
             ;
             But
             a
             sinner
             like
             me
             shall
             come
             to
             that
             fire
             like
          
           Peter
           or
           Paul
           ,
           
             but
             shall
             not
             go
             through
             it
             like
             them
             .
          
           Ambros
           :
           in
           coment
           :
           Psalterji
           :
           
             Igne
             nos
          
           &c.
           
           David
           
             says
             :
             thou
             hast
             tryed
             us
             by
             fire
             ,
             therefore
             we
             shall
             all
             be
             tryed
             by
             fire
             :
             and
             if
             we
             be
             not
             consum'd
             yet
             we
             shall
             be
             scorch'd
             .
          
           Lactant
           :
           7
           instit
           C.
           1.
           
           
             Sed
             &
             justos
             &c.
             
             When
             God
             Judgeth
             even
             the
             just
             ,
             he
             will
             examin
             them
             with
             fire
             ,
             then
             they
             whose
             sins
             are
             great
             either
             in
             weight
             or
             number
             shall
             be
             vehemently
             scorched
             :
             the
             ripe
             in
             virtue
             shall
             not
             feel
             that
             fire
             .
          
           Hieronym
           :
           tomo
           3.
           in
           Amos
           :
           
             Vocatus
             ignis
             &c.
             
             The
             fire
             call'd
             to
             Judgment
             ,
             first
             devours
             the
             Abyss
             ,
             that
             is
             ,
             all
             the
             kind's
             of
             sins
             ,
             Wood
             ,
             Hay
             ,
             Stubble
             .
          
           Aug
           :
           in
           15.
           
           Gen.
           
             Ad
             solis
             &c.
             
             At
             the
             setting
             of
             the
             Sun
             ,
             that
             is
             ,
             at
             the
             End
             ,
             By
             that
             fire
             is
             signified
             the
             day
             of
             Judgment
             ,
             separating
             those
             carnalls
             who
             are
             to
             be
             sav'd
             by
             fire
             ,
             from
             those
             who
             are
             to
             be
             damn'd
             in
             the
             fire
             .
          
           And
           in
           Psal
           .
           6.
           
           
           
             Talem
             me
             &c.
             Render
             me
             such
             now
             as
             shall
             not
             need
             amendment
             by
             fire
             .
          
           And
           20
           de
           civ
           :
           Dei
           :
           
             Out
             of
             what
             has
             been
             said
             it
             seems
             evident
             that
             in
             the
             judgment
             some
             will
             suffer
             some
             purging
             pains
             .
          
        
         
           I
           take
           this
           labour
           to
           clear
           the
           Purgatory
           held
           by
           some
           of
           the
           ancient
           ,
           because
           their
           sayings
           and
           the
           Texts
           which
           they
           cite
           for
           their
           Purgatory
           are
           all
           which
           they
           bring
           now
           for
           the
           Purgatory
           maintain'd
           in
           the
           Church
           of
           Rome
           ;
           whereas
           t
           is
           impossible
           that
           they
           who
           held
           the
           former
           Purgatory
           should
           hold
           this
           latter
           ,
           for
           ,
           1.
           the
           former
           Purgatory
           was
           in
           the
           judgment
           ,
           this
           Latter
           is
           immediatly
           after
           Death
           .
           2.
           
           The
           former
           Purgatory
           was
           for
           the
           amendment
           of
           the
           person
           ,
           this
           latter
           punishes
           for
           Sin
           when
           the
           person
           is
           perfect
           .
           3.
           
           The
           former
           Purgatory
           afflicted
           the
           person
           till
           he
           had
           pay'●
           the
           utermost
           farthing
           ,
           that
           is
           ,
           till
           all
           hi●
           disorderly
           affections
           were
           worn
           off
           ;
           this
           latter
           clears
           a
           man
           out
           of
           prison
           for
           the
           goo●
           deeds
           of
           others
           upon
           Earth
           viz.
           Prayer
           Pilgrimages
           ,
           Masses
           ,
           Indulgences
           &c.
           an●
           without
           this
           Appendix
           of
           Indulgences
           th●
           
           Pope
           would
           not
           lift
           up
           a
           Finger
           for
           Purgatory
           .
           In
           fine
           ,
           he
           that
           in
           the
           Church
           of
           Rome
           holds
           no
           other
           Purgatory
           but
           that
           which
           the
           fore-quoted
           Fathers
           held
           ,
           will
           be
           declar'd
           haeretical
           ,
           of
           which
           
             Tho
             :
             White
          
           late
           an
           
             English
             Priest
          
           of
           the
           Church
           of
           Rome
           is
           an
           example
           .
           See
           his
           book
           
             de
             medio
             animarum
             Statu
          
           .
        
         
           But
           it
           may
           be
           said
           :
           The
           ancient
           Fathers
           holding
           one
           sort
           of
           Purgatory
           ,
           and
           the
           present
           Church
           of
           Rome
           holding
           another
           sort
           ,
           how
           come
           we
           Protestants
           to
           hold
           none
           ?
           I
           answer
           :
           The
           Church
           of
           Rome
           is
           to
           account
           for
           throwing
           off
           the
           Purgatory
           maintained
           by
           some
           of
           the
           Fathers
           ;
           for
           she
           had
           thrown
           it
           off
           long
           before
           our
           Reformation
           ;
           We
           indeed
           threw
           off
           that
           Purgatory
           which
           is
           maintained
           by
           the
           present
           Church
           of
           Rome
           ,
           as
           new
           and
           invented
           ;
           which
           is
           thus
           demonstrated
           out
           of
           the
           foregoing
           discourse
           .
           The
           present
           Church
           of
           Rome
           maintains
           a
           Purgatory
           absolutely
           inconsistent
           with
           that
           which
           was
           maintained
           by
           the
           ancient
           Fathers
           (
           as
           is
           proved
           above
           )
           ;
           therefore
           the
           Purgatory
           of
           the
           present
           Church
           of
           Rome
           came
           not
           by
           tradition
           
           from
           the
           Fathers
           ,
           but
           was
           invented
           by
           their
           children
           .
        
         
           
             Add
             to
             this
             St.
             Austin
             ad
             Dulcitium
             q.
          
           1.
           
           It
           is
           not
           incredible
           ,
           
             says
             he
          
           ,
           that
           such
           a
           thing
           should
           be
           after
           this
           life
           ,
           and
           inquiry
           may
           be
           made
           whether
           it
           be
           so
           ,
           and
           it
           may
           be
           found
           out
           ,
           and
           it
           may
           be
           hid
           ,
           that
           some
           of
           the
           faithful
           through
           a
           certain
           Purgatory
           fire
           should
           be
           sav'd
           sooner
           or
           later
           as
           they
           did
           more
           or
           less
           love
           the
           good
           things
           that
           perish
           .
           
             He
             says
          
           Purgatory
           is
           not
           incredible
           
             (
             that
             is
             ,
             some
             sort
             of
             Purgatory
             )
          
           that
           it
           may
           be
           inquir'd
           after
           ,
           and
           perhaps
           it
           may
           be
           found
           ,
           and
           perhaps
           not
           .
           
             A
             good
             while
             after
             him
          
           Gregory
           
             said
             to
          
           Peter
           
             the
             Deacon
             ,
             that
             many
             things
             are
             now
             known
             of
             separate
             souls
             which
             were
             not
             known
             of
             old
             .
          
        
         
           And
           Bede
           says
           that
           Purgatory
           became
           known
           in
           England
           upon
           the
           miraculous
           deliverance
           of
           a
           souldier
           from
           his
           bonds
           by
           the
           sacrifice
           of
           the
           Masse
           .
           In
           fine
           ,
           the
           Greek
           Church
           never
           own'd
           Purgatory
           ,
           and
           yet
           to
           them
           (
           as
           to
           gospel
           matters
           )
           was
           
             declared
             the
             whole
             council
             of
             God.
          
           Act.
           20.
           27.
           
        
         
           
             But
             suppose
             Transubstantiation
             and
             Purgatory
             
             are
             fictious
             ,
             is
             the
             Errour
             Damnable
             ?
          
           I
           do
           not
           say
           whether
           it
           be
           or
           no
           ;
           but
           I
           am
           sure
           that
           all
           errour
           is
           dangerous
           to
           the
           soul
           ,
           because
           it
           is
           its
           blindness
           ;
           and
           if
           the
           blind
           lead
           the
           blind
           &c.
           
           Besides
           ,
           errour
           has
           a
           spawn
           of
           consequents
           in
           which
           the
           blackness
           is
           often
           more
           sensible
           than
           in
           the
           damm
           .
           For
           instance
           ,
           the
           opinion
           of
           Transubstantiation
           has
           (
           though
           not
           by
           good
           consequence
           to
           my
           reason
           )
           brough
           forth
           a
           sacrilegious
           detention
           of
           the
           Cup
           from
           the
           Laity
           .
           Adoration
           of
           the
           Host
           is
           another
           and
           a
           true
           birth
           of
           the
           same
           opinion
           ;
           and
           that
           has
           in
           it
           many
           symptomes
           of
           Idolatry
           .
           
             But
             what
             soul-killing
             venom
             comes
             from
             Purgatory
             ?
          
           Why
           ,
           t
           is
           a
           grosse
           disparagment
           of
           the
           passion
           of
           Christ
           which
           we
           do
           accuse
           of
           imperfection
           ,
           while
           we
           think
           it
           necessary
           to
           joyn
           our
           ownsufferings
           with
           it
           for
           the
           satisfaction
           of
           the
           divine
           Justice
           .
        
         
           I
           have
           done
           with
           Transubstantiation
           and
           Purgatory
           ,
           and
           need
           not
           name
           any
           more
           of
           the
           incredible
           doctrins
           of
           Popery
           ;
           for
           this
           is
           one
           of
           their
           doctrins
           ,
           that
           he
           who
           denies
           one
           Article
           of
           the
           Faith
           ,
           denies
           
           all
           ;
           because
           the
           proposal
           of
           the
           Church
           is
           the
           only
           reason
           of
           believing
           any
           .
           Out
           of
           which
           I
           infer
           ;
           that
           if
           they
           are
           baffl'd
           in
           any
           one
           Article
           ;
           they
           are
           undone
           as
           to
           all
           ;
           for
           their
           proposal
           has
           lost
           its
           infallibility
           .
           Therefore
           in
           the
           next
           place
           ,
           as
           the
           doctrins
           of
           Popery
           are
           incredible
           and
           dangerous
           to
           our
           condition
           in
           the
           world
           to
           come
           ,
           so
           I
           say
           the
           yoke
           of
           it
           is
           very
           grievous
           and
           the
           burthen
           almost
           insupportable
           in
           this
           world
           .
           For
           ,
        
         
           First
           ,
           Popery
           deprives
           us
           of
           several
           rights
           of
           nature
           .
           It
           requires
           us
           to
           believe
           things
           naturally
           absurd
           ,
           without
           giving
           us
           any
           supernatural
           proof
           ,
           as
           appears
           in
           the
           instances
           of
           Transubstantiation
           and
           Purgatory
           ;
           and
           yet
           if
           we
           doubt
           ,
           we
           are
           damn'd
           to
           the
           fire
           of
           this
           world
           ,
           and
           that
           of
           the
           world
           to
           come
           .
           Agen
           ,
           to
           make
           us
           pray
           and
           praise
           God
           in
           an
           unknown
           tongue
           ;
           What
           is
           it
           but
           to
           rob
           us
           of
           the
           common
           rights
           of
           humanity
           :
           Parrots
           and
           Pies
           learn
           words
           ,
           but
           to
           understand
           them
           is
           the
           priviledge
           of
           mankind
           .
           And
           he
           that
           should
           worship
           God
           only
           by
           saying
           what
           he
           does
           
           not
           understand
           ,
           were
           degenerate
           into
           a
           beast
           as
           to
           his
           religion
           .
           St.
           Paul
           says
           
             if
             in
             the
             Church
             they
             all
             speak
             with
             tongues
             ,
          
           (
           though
           themselves
           do
           understand
           them
           )
           
             that
             a
             stranger
             coming
             in
             ,
             will
             think
             them
             mad
             .
          
           Is
           it
           not
           madder
           for
           them
           all
           to
           speak
           with
           tongues
           which
           they
           do
           not
           understand
           ?
           That
           Papist
           must
           be
           very
           much
           stupifyed
           to
           whom
           this
           imposition
           is
           not
           grievous
           .
        
         
           2dly
           .
           Popery
           is
           a
           great
           Invader
           of
           our
           Civil
           Rights
           .
           The
           Pope
           can
           excommunicate
           a
           King
           ;
           and
           by
           so
           doing
           ,
           his
           Subjects
           are
           absolv'd
           from
           their
           Oath
           of
           fidelity
           ,
           and
           are
           commanded
           to
           pay
           no
           Obedience
           ;
           so
           the
           Prince
           loses
           his
           government
           ,
           and
           the
           people
           not
           only
           ,
           lose
           their
           Protection
           but
           also
           are
           Embarras'd
           in
           insoluble
           doubts
           of
           conscience
           ,
           between
           the
           pretensions
           of
           the
           Pope
           and
           those
           of
           the
           King.
           And
           this
           was
           the
           Popish
           Doctrin
           long
           before
           the
           Jesuits
           ,
           as
           appears
           in
           Thomas
           Aquinas's
           Summ.
           Neither
           has
           the
           Pope
           ever
           been
           drawn
           to
           declare
           against
           that
           Branch
           of
           his
           power
           ;
           though
           in
           several
           Provinces
           he
           might
           by
           
           such
           a
           declaration
           have
           delivered
           abundance
           of
           his
           people
           from
           very
           great
           troubles
           .
           Nay
           the
           Pope
           disposes
           of
           unforfeited
           Kingdoms
           .
           He
           gave
           away
           the
           Kingdoms
           of
           Mexico
           and
           Peru
           ;
           though
           those
           Kings
           had
           never
           been
           under
           his
           Jurisdiction
           ,
           and
           S.
           Paul
           says
           ;
           
             what
             have
             we
             to
             do
             with
             them
             that
             are
             without
             ?
          
           But
           there
           is
           an
           instance
           of
           this
           grievance
           about
           which
           I
           am
           more
           concern'd
           .
           Our
           King
           John
           had
           troubles
           from
           his
           Subjects
           to
           that
           height
           ,
           that
           he
           was
           fain
           to
           resign
           up
           his
           Crown
           to
           the
           Pope
           ,
           and
           to
           receive
           it
           again
           from
           Pandol●
           his
           Legate
           ,
           and
           to
           hold
           it
           thenceforth
           as
           from
           the
           Pope
           .
           This
           they
           say
           and
           brag
           off
           ,
           and
           upon
           this
           accompt
           pretend
           a
           Title
           to
           England
           at
           this
           day
           .
           Here
           are
           several
           matters
           hard
           to
           be
           understood
           .
           If
           the
           Pope
           was
           partner
           in
           the
           Rebellion
           ,
           what
           can
           be
           more
           dangerous
           than
           he
           to
           Soveraignty
           ?
           If
           he
           was
           no
           partner
           in
           the
           Rebellion
           ,
           how
           came
           he
           to
           get
           the
           Crown
           by
           the
           Success
           of
           the
           Rebells
           ?
           Again
           ,
           if
           John
           was
           Persecuted
           as
           an
           Usurper
           ,
           why
           was
           not
           the
           Crown
           
           given
           to
           the
           right
           Heir
           ?
           But
           nothing
           can
           be
           more
           unpolitick
           than
           their
           pretending
           a
           Title
           to
           England
           from
           this
           Transaction
           with
           King
           John
           ;
           for
           it
           intitles
           them
           to
           the
           just
           Indignation
           of
           every
           King
           of
           England
           and
           of
           all
           his
           good
           Subjects
           .
        
         
           Thirdly
           ,
           Popery
           is
           very
           grievous
           to
           the
           private
           purse
           &c.
           consequently
           dwarfs
           any
           people
           that
           embraces
           it
           .
           Of
           what
           boundies
           numbers
           are
           their
           Clergy
           and
           Religious
           ?
           
             The
             present
             state
             of
             France
          
           says
           that
           one
           third
           of
           that
           Kingdom
           is
           theirs
           ;
           and
           it
           must
           be
           worse
           in
           Spain
           .
           Then
           ,
           their
           Pilgrimages
           ,
           Ransomes
           from
           Purgatory
           ,
           Offrings
           at
           shrines
           and
           Divifications
           are
           notable
           Pick-pockets
           .
           
             But
             how
             do
             divifications
             work
          
           ?
           Why
           the
           people
           look
           upon
           a
           new
           Saint
           as
           a
           new
           Adovcate
           for
           them
           in
           Heaven
           .
        
         
           But
           here
           it
           may
           be
           said
           ,
           that
           some
           of
           our
           people
           think
           the
           Protestant
           Clergy
           (
           Especially
           of
           the
           Church
           of
           England
           )
           pretty
           chargeable
           .
           I
           answer
           ,
           that
           the
           means
           of
           our
           Clergy
           is
           so
           small
           a
           pittance
           in
           comparison
           of
           that
           which
           went
           away
           with
           
           Popery
           ,
           that
           they
           must
           be
           very
           unreasonable
           who
           grutch
           it
           .
           And
           really
           I
           never
           knew
           any
           maligne
           the
           decent
           maintenance
           of
           our
           Church
           but
           such
           as
           discovered
           a
           great
           many
           other
           vices
           .
           In
           our
           late
           confusions
           ,
           all
           that
           were
           against
           the
           Church
           were
           against
           God
           and
           the
           King
           and
           their
           fellow
           Subjects
           :
           they
           were
           shamefully
           prophane
           ,
           and
           yet
           Hypocrites
           in
           contempt
           of
           all
           our
           senses
           .
           But
           this
           is
           a
           digression
           .
           The
           truth
           is
           ,
           Religion
           must
           be
           in
           some
           degree
           Chargeable
           :
           for
           if
           we
           will
           serve
           God
           only
           out
           of
           that
           which
           costs
           us
           nothing
           ;
           then
           in
           our
           Eye
           the
           service
           of
           God
           is
           nothing
           worth
           .
           But
           there
           may
           be
           too
           much
           taken
           as
           well
           as
           there
           may
           be
           too
           little
           given
           .
        
         
           I
           might
           add
           other
           grievances
           :
           as
           the
           horrible
           imposing
           on
           the
           vulgar
           by
           miracles
           ;
           to
           which
           no
           man
           of
           reason
           among
           themselves
           gives
           any
           credit
           .
           Then
           how
           restles
           are
           their
           Bigotts
           in
           Plotts
           !
           But
           they
           are
           told
           of
           that
           by
           Enough
           .
           We
           had
           here
           a
           Barbarous
           Rebellion
           in
           the
           year
           1641.
           
           I
           do
           not
           know
           whither
           the
           Pope
           
           rais'd
           it
           or
           no
           ;
           but
           he
           own'd
           it
           ,
           and
           encourag'd
           it
           ,
           and
           hindred
           all
           expedients
           offer'd
           for
           a
           closure
           of
           the
           Wound
           ,
           to
           the
           undoing
           of
           very
           many
           Gentlemen
           of
           that
           party
           ,
           who
           yet
           are
           so
           well
           natur'd
           as
           to
           love
           his
           Holiness
           never
           the
           less
           .
           Nay
           of
           late
           Fanaticisme
           thrives
           by
           Popery
           .
           The
           Presbyterians
           say
           the
           Indulgence
           to
           them
           and
           others
           was
           but
           to
           cover
           that
           to
           the
           Papists
           ;
           But
           I
           never
           believe
           it
           the
           sooner
           for
           their
           saying
           it
           .
           No
           I
           think
           the
           Papists
           help'd
           the
           Fanatiques
           only
           by
           Antiperistasis
           .
           The
           late
           Plot
           makes
           them
           look
           so
           black
           ,
           that
           the
           Ignorant
           people
           run
           to
           those
           Religions
           which
           pretend
           to
           greatest
           distance
           from
           Popery
           .
        
         
           I
           would
           now
           draw
           to
           a
           conclusion
           ,
           but
           that
           I
           find
           my
           work
           is
           not
           don
           against
           Popery
           till
           I
           cleare
           Protestancy
           from
           some
           dirt
           thrown
           on
           it
           ,
           which
           I
           shall
           endeavour
           to
           do
           as
           briefly
           as
           I
           have
           don
           the
           rest
           .
        
         
           Ob
           :
           1.
           
           
             Protestants
             generally
             yield
             that
             a
             Papist
             may
             be
             sav'd
             ,
             how
             then
             came
             Reformation
             from
             Popery
             to
             be
             necessary
             ?
             why
             should
             the
             unity
             of
             the
             Church
             be
             broken
             
             for
             That
             without
             which
             we
             may
             be
             Eternally
             happy
             ?
          
           I
           answer
           ,
           we
           condemne
           no
           man
           ;
           there
           is
           one
           that
           will
           judge
           the
           world
           ,
           and
           charity
           commands
           us
           to
           hope
           that
           well
           meaning
           Papists
           will
           be
           sav'd
           in
           that
           day
           .
           But
           if
           any
           man
           thinks
           the
           Popish
           doctrines
           false
           ,
           and
           yet
           professes
           them
           as
           Articles
           of
           the
           Christian
           Faith
           ,
           his
           Hypocrisy
           is
           a
           damnable
           sin
           .
           Hence
           the
           Reformation
           became
           necessary
           .
           God
           open'd
           the
           Eyes
           of
           several
           people
           :
           They
           saw
           errours
           in
           the
           Church
           ,
           refus'd
           to
           own
           them
           ,
           declar'd
           against
           them
           ,
           and
           in
           some
           Countries
           prevail'd
           against
           them
           .
           They
           must
           either
           do
           so
           ,
           or
           be
           Hypocrites
           in
           professing
           what
           they
           did
           not
           think
           .
           Not
           that
           men
           are
           every
           where
           bound
           to
           proclaim
           their
           Religion
           ,
           but
           in
           the
           Church
           of
           Rome
           they
           are
           .
           There
           they
           must
           profess
           every
           thing
           with
           the
           Church
           ,
           or
           suffer
           as
           Hereticks
           .
           In
           Summe
           ,
           the
           Church
           of
           Rome
           kept
           the
           Christian
           Faith
           ,
           therefore
           we
           did
           not
           ,
           neither
           might
           we
           leave
           it
           because
           of
           some
           erronious
           superstructious
           ;
           not
           ,
           for
           example
           sake
           ,
           because
           they
           
           believed
           Transubstantiation
           and
           ador'd
           the
           host
           ;
           but
           because
           they
           compelled
           us
           to
           believe
           and
           to
           do
           so
           .
        
         
           Ob
           2.
           
           If
           it
           be
           lawfull
           for
           Protestants
           to
           reform
           from
           Popery
           for
           conscience
           sake
           ;
           then
           it
           is
           lawfull
           upon
           the
           same
           account
           for
           Presbyterians
           to
           reform
           from
           Protestants
           ,
           and
           for
           Independents
           ,
           and
           for
           Anabaptists
           ,
           Quakers
           &c.
           without
           end
           .
           And
           if
           this
           be
           allowed
           ,
           in
           what
           a
           perpetual
           toss
           of
           troubles
           will
           Christian
           Countries
           be
           ?
           One
           crying
           up
           one
           way
           to
           Heaven
           ,
           and
           another
           crying
           up
           another
           way
           ,
           and
           their
           words
           often
           proceeding
           to
           blows
           ,
           each
           one
           party
           condemning
           all
           the
           rest
           :
           but
           most
           of
           them
           joyning
           against
           the
           
             Chief
             Magistrate
             ?
             Besides
             the
             unity
             of
             the
             Church
             is
             gone
             ,
             the
             Communion
             of
             Saints
             is
             gone
             ,
             and
             the
             Church
             will
             soon
             be
             gone
             ;
             for
             division
             is
             not
             many
             steps
             before
             destruction
             .
          
        
         
           This
           objection
           goes
           a
           great
           way
           with
           many
           people
           ,
           therefore
           I
           will
           set
           down
           my
           answer
           distinctly
           in
           branches
           .
        
         
           1.
           
           I
           confess
           that
           divisions
           in
           the
           Church
           do
           naturally
           tend
           to
           the
           destruction
           of
           it
           ;
           
           but
           of
           this
           Evil
           they
           only
           are
           guilty
           who
           cause
           the
           division
           .
           Now
           who
           caus'd
           our
           departure
           from
           the
           Church
           of
           Rome
           ,
           we
           that
           were
           driven
           ,
           or
           they
           who
           drove
           us
           away
           ?
           If
           it
           be
           said
           :
           
             who
             drove
             you
             away
          
           ?
           I
           answer
           :
           They
           that
           made
           it
           mortal
           for
           us
           to
           stay
           .
           We
           must
           either
           hear
           our
           Conscience
           ,
           or
           them
           ,
           or
           the
           Word
           .
        
         
           2dly
           .
           Every
           man
           is
           bound
           to
           reform
           himself
           according
           to
           his
           conscience
           ,
           
             that
             is
          
           ,
           he
           is
           bound
           not
           to
           profess
           that
           which
           he
           does
           not
           believe
           ,
           and
           not
           to
           do
           that
           which
           he
           thinks
           is
           unlawfull
           .
           But
           though
           every
           mans
           reason
           be
           his
           own
           guide
           ;
           yet
           no
           one
           mans
           reason
           is
           the
           guide
           of
           other
           men
           (
           unless
           they
           make
           it
           so
           as
           in
           the
           case
           of
           Magistracy
           &c.
           )
           therefore
           no
           particular
           person
           ought
           to
           press
           the
           Reformation
           of
           other
           men
           ,
           unles
           he
           be
           authorised
           by
           God
           or
           man.
           Yet
           it
           is
           possible
           ,
           that
           private
           persons
           may
           think
           themselves
           bound
           in
           conscience
           not
           only
           to
           reform
           themselves
           but
           others
           also
           ;
           to
           Preach
           and
           perhaps
           fight
           up
           their
           own
           way
           .
           And
           when
           this
           frenzy
           is
           prevalent
           ,
           t
           is
           a
           great
           
           judgment
           from
           God
           both
           upon
           the
           persons
           possess'd
           with
           it
           ,
           and
           upon
           the
           Nation
           in
           which
           it
           happens
           .
           But
           the
           rule
           is
           ,
           that
           as
           they
           follow
           their
           own
           erronious
           conscience
           in
           these
           pranks
           ;
           so
           the
           chief
           Magistrate
           is
           to
           follow
           his
           conscience
           ,
           which
           is
           not
           to
           suffer
           them
           to
           do
           hurt
           to
           the
           Church
           or
           State.
           
        
         
           3ly
           .
           I
           confess
           that
           our
           being
           subject
           to
           troubles
           from
           Presbyterians
           &c.
           is
           an
           imbecility
           in
           our
           Church
           ;
           but
           t
           is
           common
           to
           us
           with
           the
           Church
           of
           Rome
           ;
           We
           are
           vexed
           with
           Sectaries
           ,
           and
           they
           are
           vex'd
           with
           the
           same
           Sectaries
           ,
           and
           with
           us
           too
           .
        
         
           4ly
           .
           But
           I
           shal
           be
           told
           that
           the
           strength
           of
           the
           Objection
           is
           in
           this
           ,
           That
           by
           our
           Reformation
           from
           Popery
           We
           gave
           a
           Precedent
           inviting
           others
           to
           Reform
           from
           Us
           ;
           To
           this
           I
           say
           ,
           that
           in
           our
           Reformation
           the
           King
           and
           People
           were
           of
           a
           mind
           and
           Reform'd
           according
           to
           order
           of
           Law
           ;
           therefore
           Our
           Reformation
           is
           no
           Precedent
           for
           the
           tumultous
           ,
           and
           violent
           Endeavours
           of
           Presbyterians
           &c.
           
           Again
           ,
           the
           Sectaries
           have
           not
           the
           same
           necessity
           of
           Seperating
           from
           us
           as
           we
           
           had
           for
           Separation
           from
           Rome
           ;
           for
           we
           could
           not
           stay
           there
           without
           declaring
           for
           Transubstantiation
           &c.
           which
           we
           could
           not
           believe
           ;
           but
           the
           Presbyterians
           ,
           Anabaptists
           &c.
           may
           hold
           their
           own
           Opinions
           in
           our
           Church
           without
           ever
           being
           enquir'd
           into
           about
           it
           ,
           nay
           if
           they
           are
           known
           to
           be
           of
           such
           Opinions
           ,
           there
           is
           not
           the
           least
           punishment
           for
           it
           .
           So
           that
           our
           Reformation
           was
           of
           Necessity
           ,
           Their
           's
           of
           Wantonness
           .
           We
           are
           no
           Precedent
           for
           them
           .
           To
           conclude
           upon
           this
           Objection
           ,
           I
           say
           human
           affairs
           cannot
           but
           be
           subject
           to
           inconveniences
           ;
           &
           therefore
           we
           must
           not
           reject
           any
           thing
           for
           an
           adhering
           Inconvenience
           ,
           unles
           its
           Opposite
           be
           less
           Inconvenient
           .
           Let
           us
           then
           consider
           whether
           possible
           Troubles
           from
           Sectaries
           ,
           or
           the
           certain
           Intolerablenes
           of
           the
           Roman
           Yoke
           upon
           our
           Consciences
           ,
           Lives
           ,
           and
           Fortunes
           be
           the
           greater
           Inconvenience
           .
        
         
           Ob.
           3.
           
           At
           least
           the
           Romish
           Religion
           ,
           by
           the
           power
           it
           has
           upon
           peoples
           Consciences
           seems
           apter
           than
           the
           Protestant
           to
           keep
           the
           people
           in
           Obedience
           to
           a
           Catholick
           Prince
           ,
           and
           so
           ought
           to
           be
           cherish'd
           by
           such
           
           Princes
           .
           I
           answer
           :
           Popery
           is
           not
           so
           good
           at
           keeping
           Subjects
           quiet
           as
           it
           is
           at
           raising
           tumults
           ;
           witnes
           the
           French
           League
           against
           a
           Roman
           Catholick
           King.
           Yes
           ,
           Popery
           has
           made
           many
           Rebellions
           where
           no
           interest
           was
           concern'd
           but
           its
           own
           :
           but
           where
           did
           it
           ever
           hinder
           a
           Rebellion
           to
           which
           other
           interests
           invited
           ?
           Did
           it
           hinder
           the
           Barons
           Wars
           in
           England
           ?
           Did
           it
           hinder
           the
           Rebellion
           of
           almost
           all
           Spain
           against
           Charles
           the
           first
           ?
           Did
           it
           hinder
           Massanello
           in
           Naples
           ?
           Did
           it
           hinder
           the
           Suiss-Cantons
           from
           revolting
           from
           the
           house
           of
           Austria
           ?
           Papists
           have
           often
           Rebell'd
           ,
           But
           we
           can
           say
           of
           the
           Protestants
           (
           I
           mean
           the
           Church
           of
           England
           )
           that
           they
           have
           never
           yet
           rebell'd
           ,
           &
           that
           if
           ever
           they
           would
           Rebell
           ;
           they
           would
           have
           done
           it
           in
           the
           late
           times
           ,
           when
           their
           Loyalty
           contended
           with
           all
           the
           miseries
           of
           an
           unsuccessful
           War
           ,
           of
           long
           penury
           ,
           of
           Captivity
           ,
           of
           banishment
           ,
           of
           shameful
           Deaths
           .
           But
           they
           bore
           all
           these
           ;
           and
           also
           despis'd
           Cromwells
           many
           slattering
           invitations
           .
           Whereas
           the
           Papists
           of
           England
           were
           then
           said
           to
           
           offer
           in
           purchase
           of
           their
           Liberty
           
             an
             Abjuration
             of
             the
             Royal
             Line
             and
             a
             Submission
             to
             the
             Line
             of
             that
             Vsurper
             .
          
           I
           am
           not
           absolutely
           sure
           of
           this
           last
           ;
           but
           I
           perfectly
           sure
           ,
           that
           in
           those
           dayes
           Mr.
           White
           a
           Romish
           Priest
           of
           England
           published
           a
           book
           (
           Dedicated
           to
           Sr.
           
             Kenelm
             Digby
          
           )
           entitl'd
           
             Of
             Government
             and
             Obedience
          
           ;
           wherein
           he
           pretends
           to
           prove
           that
           
             God
             Himselfe
             is
             no
             otherwise
             Monarch
             of
             the
             World
             than
             by
             his
             Omnipotence
             ,
             and
             consequently
             that
             an
             Earthly
             King
             loosing
             his
             Power
             ▪
             loses
             his
             Authority
             :
             and
             that
             neither
             ought
             others
             to
             raise
             troubles
             for
             the
             recovering
             of
             his
             right
             ,
             nor
             would
             he
             ,
             if
             honest
             ,
             desire
             it
             .
          
           Certainly
           what
           ever
           Religion
           a
           King
           himself
           is
           of
           ,
           he
           has
           reason
           to
           wish
           for
           Protestant
           Subjects
           .
        
         
           FINIS
           .