Reflections upon the Answer to the papist mis-represented directed to the answerer.
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             Reflections upon the Answer to the papist mis-represented directed to the answerer.
             Gother, John, d. 1704.
          
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           REFLECTIONS
           Upon
           the
           ANSWER
           To
           the
           PAPIST
           Mis-represented
           ,
           &c.
           
           Directed
           to
           the
           ANSWERER
           .
        
         
           SIR
           ,
           I
           have
           perus'd
           your
           Answer
           ,
           and
           am
           glad
           to
           find
           it
           so
           moderate
           and
           calm
           :
           You
           make
           here
           and
           there
           some
           Personal
           reflections
           indeed
           ;
           but
           this
           being
           done
           soberly
           ,
           without
           heat
           and
           passion
           ,
           I
           am
           still
           bound
           to
           thank
           you
           ,
           if
           not
           on
           my
           particular
           ,
           yet
           on
           the
           Publick
           score
           ;
           For
           having
           by
           this
           convinc'd
           the
           world
           ,
           that
           men
           of
           different
           judgments
           may
           now
           treat
           of
           matters
           of
           Controversie
           ,
           without
           making
           use
           of
           Satyr
           and
           Scurrility
           ,
           or
           letting
           Cavil
           fill
           up
           the
           place
           of
           Judgment
           and
           Reason
           .
           This
           method
           I
           cannot
           but
           approve
           as
           most
           agreeable
           to
           Christianity
           ;
           And
           if
           I
           pursue
           the
           same
           ,
           in
           giving
           a
           farther
           explication
           of
           some
           most
           material
           Points
           ,
           you
           have
           been
           pleas'd
           to
           question
           in
           my
           small
           Treatise
           ,
           as
           also
           in
           letting
           you
           know
           my
           farther
           sence
           of
           Yours
           ;
           I
           hope
           it
           may
           be
           
           done
           without
           offence
           ,
           and
           that
           the
           shortness
           I
           shall
           use
           ,
           will
           be
           easily
           pardon'd
           ,
           if
           it
           be
           but
           to
           the
           purpose
           .
        
         
           Sir
           ,
           You
           let
           me
           know
           ,
           my
           First
           Character
           of
           a
           
             Papist
             Mis-represented
          
           is
           not
           satisfactory
           ,
           as
           not
           founded
           on
           the
           sense
           of
           a
           Party
           ,
           and
           the
           quotations
           of
           Authors
           ,
           but
           being
           rather
           my
           own
           
             False
             Apprehensions
             ,
             my
             ignorant
             ,
             my
             childish
             ,
             or
             wilful
             mistakes
             .
          
           Indeed
           had
           I
           been
           bred
           up
           in
           a
           Wood
           ,
           and
           jumpt
           forth
           into
           the
           world
           ,
           with
           
             this
             Character
          
           in
           my
           head
           ,
           I
           should
           have
           had
           reason
           to
           subscribe
           to
           you
           :
           
           But
           because
           ,
           upon
           examination
           ,
           I
           find
           I
           was
           educated
           in
           a
           well-peopled
           Town
           ,
           at
           the
           foot
           of
           the
           Pulpit
           ,
           and
           liv'd
           always
           in
           Company
           and
           Conversation
           ,
           I
           cannot
           imagin
           this
           Character
           
             so
             my
             own
          
           ,
           as
           you
           seem
           to
           understand
           it
           ,
           but
           rather
           
             my
             own
             ,
             as
             I
             receiv'd
             it
             .
          
           And
           you
           need
           not
           wonder
           that
           I
           did
           not
           heretofore
           ,
           by
           the
           help
           of
           Books
           or
           Friends
           ,
           receive
           better
           information
           ,
           and
           correct
           my
           
             false
             Apprehensions
          
           of
           Popery
           .
           For
           indeed
           ,
           were
           I
           even
           at
           
             this
             time
          
           to
           be
           rul'd
           by
           the
           greatest
           number
           of
           these
           ,
           the
           Character
           of
           a
           Papist
           would
           be
           with
           me
           much
           blacker
           yet
           ,
           
           than
           I
           have
           there
           drawn
           it
           .
           There
           would
           be
           ,
           but
           few
           strokes
           of
           reason
           or
           Christianity
           in
           it
           ,
           but
           Beast
           and
           Barbarous
           all
           over
           .
           And
           pray
           do
           you
           see
           Sir
           ,
           what
           weighty
           proofs
           are
           urg'd
           against
           me
           ,
           to
           shew
           how
           foul
           and
           monstrous
           a
           Religion
           I
           have
           chosen
           .
           They
           shew
           me
           the
           
             Book
             of
             Homilies
          
           laying
           a
           good
           foundation
           ,
           Mr.
           
           Fox's
           Book
           of
           Martyrs
           ,
           Bishop
           
           Ridley's
           Writings
           ,
           The
           Publick
           Test
           ,
           A
           Manual
           of
           three
           small
           Treatises
           ,
           by
           John
           late
           Arch-Bishop
           of
           York
           ,
           for
           the
           use
           of
           a
           Lady
           ,
           
           to
           preserve
           her
           from
           the
           danger
           of
           Popery
           .
           Printed
           London
           1672.
           
           Then
           a
           large
           Description
           given
           by
           Mr.
           Sutcliffe
           in
           his
           
             Survey
             of
             
             Popery
          
           ,
           where
           he
           undertakes
           to
           draw
           its
           several
           features
           ;
           as
           (
           chap.
           10.
           )
           
             That
             Popery
             is
             a
             sink
             of
             Heathenish
             Idolatry
             .
             (
             chap.
          
           27.
           )
           
             That
             t
             is
             a
             most
             absurd
             and
             foolish
             Religion
             .
             (
             chap.
          
           32.
           )
           
             That
             it
             is
             a
             Doctrine
             of
             Devils
             .
             (
             chap.
          
           47.
           )
           
             That
             in
             many
             points
             't
             is
             more
             absurd
             and
             abominable
             than
             the
             Doctrine
             of
             Mahomet
             .
          
           Then
           the
           
             Anatomy
             of
             Popery
          
           printed
           at
           London
           1673.
           
           in
           which
           an
           Agreement
           is
           shown
           between
           Paganism
           and
           Popery
           in
           six
           and
           twenty
           Points
           ;
           and
           with
           the
           Jews
           and
           Pharisees
           in
           other
           ten
           .
           Then
           Mr.
           
             Julian
             Johnson
          
           who
           has
           again
           set
           forth
           This
           Comparison
           of
           Popery
           and
           Paganism
           ,
           
           especially
           as
           to
           Politheism
           and
           Idolatry
           ;
           With
           the
           approbation
           of
           his
           
             Answerer
             Jovian
          
           ,
           who
           assures
           him
           that
           
             He
             ,
             with
             all
             the
             rest
             that
             have
             so
             thundred
             of
             late
             with
             the
             Thebean
             Legion
             ,
          
           like
           it
           well
           ,
           and
           
             are
             as
             well
             satisfied
             with
             it
             ,
          
           
           
             as
             he
             himself
             is
             ,
             bating
             some
             irreverent
             Phrases
             .
          
           Now
           Sir
           ,
           amidst
           these
           Authentick
           proofs
           ,
           besides
           a
           great
           number
           of
           other
           Authors
           ,
           who
           undertake
           to
           draw
           Popery
           in
           its
           
             own
             Colours
          
           ;
           what
           convenience
           or
           even
           possibility
           had
           I
           ,
           of
           framing
           any
           better
           apprehension
           of
           
             this
             Religion
          
           ,
           than
           was
           here
           laid
           before
           me
           :
           Especially
           since
           my
           Friends
           were
           not
           wanting
           to
           vouch
           the
           truth
           of
           all
           this
           ,
           and
           to
           assure
           me
           ;
           they
           had
           heard
           all
           this
           over
           and
           over
           from
           Men
           of
           Character
           ,
           and
           in
           Places
           ,
           which
           gave
           it
           reputation
           beyond
           all
           question
           ?
           Neither
           does
           it
           appear
           to
           me
           ,
           had
           it
           been
           my
           fortune
           to
           have
           consulted
           you
           in
           this
           affair
           ,
           that
           I
           should
           have
           been
           much
           rectified
           as
           to
           these
           my
           Childish
           or
           
             Wilful
             Mistakes
          
           concerning
           Popery
           ;
           as
           is
           evident
           from
           the
           Character
           you
           give
           of
           it
           throughout
           your
           Answer
           ,
           and
           especially
           at
           the
           end
           (
           pag.
           161.
           )
           viz.
           
           
             That
             it
             is
             that
             you
             can
             never
             yield
             to
             ,
             without
             betraying
             the
             truth
             ,
             renouncing
             your
             senses
             and
             Reason
             ,
             wounding
             
             your
             Conscience
             ,
             dishonouring
             God
             ,
             and
             his
             Holy
             Word
             and
             Sacraments
             ;
             perverting
             the
             doctrine
             of
             the
             Gospel
             ,
             as
             to
             Christ's
             satisfaction
             ,
             Intercession
             and
             Remission
             of
             sins
             ;
             depriving
             the
             People
             of
             the
             means
             of
             Salvation
             ,
             which
             God
             himself
             hath
             appointed
             ,
             and
             the
             Primitive
             Church
             observ'd
             ,
             and
             damning
             those
             for
             whom
             Christ
             died
             .
          
        
         
           But
           however
           I
           will
           not
           insist
           upon
           this
           point
           ;
           He
           rather
           yeild
           ,
           than
           be
           contentious
           :
           And
           because
           you
           say
           ,
           that
           my
           Character
           of
           a
           
             Papist
             Mis-represented
          
           ,
           is
           made
           up
           of
           
             False
             Apprehensions
             ,
             Ignorant
             ,
             Childish
             and
             Wilful
             Mistakes
             ,
          
           He
           own
           it
           to
           be
           no
           better
           :
           But
           then
           ,
           Sir
           ,
           you
           must
           give
           me
           leave
           to
           make
           use
           of
           your
           Authority
           with
           my
           Friends
           and
           Acquaintance
           ,
           in
           assuring
           them
           ,
           that
           wheresoever
           they
           shall
           for
           the
           future
           either
           hear
           ,
           or
           read
           such
           things
           charg'd
           upon
           the
           Papists
           ,
           they
           must
           give
           it
           no
           credit
           ,
           and
           esteem
           it
           no
           better
           ,
           than
           the
           
             False
             Apprehensions
             ,
             Ignorant
             ,
             Childish
             and
             Wilful
             Mistakes
          
           of
           the
           Relatours
           .
           Upon
           this
           condition
           I
           close
           this
           point
           ;
           only
           adding
           ,
           that
           in
           laying
           down
           the
           Colours
           of
           a
           
             Papist
             Mis-represented
          
           ,
           I
           never
           thought
           of
           declaring
           the
           Articles
           of
           
             your
             Church
          
           ;
           or
           by
           Mis-representing
           the
           Papist
           ,
           to
           
             represent
             you
          
           ;
           
           as
           you
           seem
           to
           mistake
           me
           :
           But
           only
           to
           shew
           the
           many
           Mistakes
           and
           Errours
           to
           be
           found
           amongst
           Protestants
           of
           what
           kind
           soever
           ,
           concerning
           the
           notion
           of
           Popery
           ,
           for
           
             Debitor
             sum
             sapientibus
             &
             Insipientibus
          
           .
           And
           tho
           you
           seem
           willing
           in
           your
           Introduction
           ,
           that
           your
           Reader
           should
           esteem
           this
           our
           complaint
           of
           being
           basely
           Mis-represented
           ,
           
           no
           better
           than
           a
           meer
           Pretence
           ,
           or
           
             a
             Design
             of
             such
             who
             go
             about
             to
             deceive
             ,
          
           by
           comparing
           it
           with
           the
           Complaints
           of
           the
           
             Arians
             ,
             Pelagians
             ,
             Nestorians
          
           ,
           &c
           ,
           Yet
           we
           are
           beholding
           to
           you
           soon
           after
           ;
           
           when
           finding
           some
           of
           
           the
           dirt
           thrown
           at
           us
           ,
           to
           fall
           upon
           
             your
             own
             Face
          
           ,
           by
           your
           standing
           so
           
             near
             us
          
           ,
           you
           then
           own
           it
           to
           be
           grounded
           ,
           and
           
             Real
             ,
             pitying
             the
             Weakness
             and
             Folly
             of
          
           those
           who
           Cast
           it
           pag.
           10.
           
           And
           therefore
           I
           believe
           you
           will
           close
           with
           me
           in
           this
           Point
           ,
           that
           Mis-representing
           is
           Mis-representing
           ,
           tho
           from
           those
           who
           dissent
           from
           your
           Church
           .
           But
           we
           go
           on
           to
           the
           other
           Character
           of
           the
           
             Papist
             represented
          
           .
        
         
           And
           this
           too
           ,
           it
           seems
           ,
           affords
           you
           as
           little
           satisfaction
           ,
           as
           the
           former
           ,
           on
           several
           accounts
           .
           And
           First
           you
           move
           a
           Scruple
           by
           the
           by
           ,
           (
           pag.
           9.
           )
           by
           your
           having
           no
           mind
           to
           ask
           ,
           
             How
             the
             Council
             of
             Trent
             should
             come
             to
             be
             the
             Rule
             and
             Measure
             of
             Doctrine
             to
             any
             here
             ,
             where
             it
             was
             never
             received
             ?
          
           As
           if
           in
           
             this
             Character
          
           I
           had
           observ'd
           a
           Rule
           ,
           which
           ought
           to
           be
           none
           Here
           ,
           nor
           is
           own'd
           as
           Such
           .
           And
           as
           to
           this
           ,
           I
           need
           only
           Inform
           you
           ;
           that
           the
           Council
           of
           Trent
           is
           receiv'd
           here
           and
           all
           the
           Catholick
           World
           over
           ,
           as
           to
           all
           its
           
             Definitions
             of
             Faith
          
           ;
           althò
           it
           be
           not
           wholly
           receiv'd
           in
           some
           places
           ,
           as
           to
           its
           other
           Decrees
           ,
           which
           relate
           only
           to
           Discpline
           .
           And
           therefore
           in
           appealing
           to
           
             this
             Council
          
           ,
           for
           the
           vindicating
           all
           I
           have
           there
           asserted
           ,
           to
           be
           the
           Doctrine
           of
           Catholicks
           ,
           I
           have
           done
           nothing
           but
           what
           I
           was
           oblig'd
           ,
           and
           is
           justifiable
           before
           the
           whole
           World
           :
           and
           on
           the
           truth
           of
           what
           I
           have
           said
           concerning
           the
           Councils
           being
           universally
           receiv'd
           as
           to
           Doctrines
           of
           Faith
           ,
           I
           'le
           allow
           the
           whole
           Cause
           between
           us
           to
           depend
           .
           But
           this
           only
           as
           to
           your
           mistake
           .
        
         
           Now
           supposing
           this
           to
           be
           the
           Rule
           of
           such
           Points
           of
           Faith
           ,
           as
           are
           there
           set
           down
           for
           the
           Belief
           of
           the
           Papists
           ,
           you
           raise
           your
           Difficulty
           (
           pag.
           11.
           )
           because
           
             I
             shew
             no
             Authority
             I
             have
             to
             Interpret
             that
             Rule
             in
             my
             own
             sence
             :
          
           it
           being
           a
           thing
           expresly
           forbidden
           by
           
           Pius
           4th
           .
           And
           because
           several
           of
           my
           
             Representations
             depend
             upon
             my
             own
             private
             Sence
             and
             Opinion
             .
          
           Truly
           Sir
           ,
           had
           I
           ,
           in
           undertaking
           to
           state
           the
           Belief
           of
           our
           Church
           ,
           Interpreted
           the
           Council
           of
           Trent
           in
           my
           own
           private
           Sence
           ,
           or
           Obtruded
           any
           Opinion
           of
           mine
           for
           an
           Article
           of
           our
           Faith
           ,
           you
           might
           justly
           have
           Arraigned
           me
           at
           that
           Barr.
           But
           you
           must
           give
           me
           leave
           here
           to
           tell
           you
           ,
           that
           you
           Wrong
           me
           ,
           and
           Impose
           upon
           your
           Reader
           .
           For
           so
           far
           was
           I
           from
           committing
           this
           Fault
           of
           Interpreting
           the
           Council
           of
           Trent
           in
           my
           
             own
             Sence
          
           :
           That
           I
           have
           only
           deliver'd
           it
           ,
           as
           it
           is
           Interpreted
           to
           me
           and
           to
           all
           our
           Church
           ,
           in
           the
           
             Catechism
             ad
             Parochos
          
           ,
           composed
           and
           set
           forth
           by
           Order
           of
           the
           
             said
             Council
          
           and
           Pius
           5th
           .
           for
           the
           Instruction
           of
           the
           Faithful
           in
           their
           Christian
           Duty
           touching
           Faith
           and
           
             Good
             Manners
          
           ,
           in
           conformity
           to
           the
           Sense
           of
           the
           Council
           .
           And
           for
           this
           reason
           in
           my
           Conclusion
           ,
           
           I
           appeal'd
           to
           this
           Catechism
           ,
           for
           the
           justifying
           of
           what
           I
           have
           represented
           to
           be
           the
           Faith
           of
           the
           Papists
           ,
           to
           be
           
             really
             so
          
           .
           And
           that
           you
           may
           see
           ,
           how
           vainly
           you
           have
           charged
           me
           with
           the
           Transgression
           of
           Pope
           Pius's
           Bull
           :
           
           remember
           I
           appeal'd
           again
           in
           
             my
             Conclusion
             to
          
           Veron
           
             's
             Rule
             of
             Faith
          
           ,
           and
           to
           that
           set
           forth
           by
           the
           
             Bishop
             of
             Condom
          
           ,
           for
           maintaining
           the
           Character
           of
           the
           
             Papist
             Represented
          
           ,
           to
           be
           just
           .
           Now
           you
           must
           know
           the
           Latter
           of
           these
           ,
           drew
           up
           a
           like
           Character
           in
           Paris
           ,
           of
           the
           Belief
           of
           a
           Papist
           ,
           and
           it
           being
           conform
           to
           the
           Principles
           of
           Piety
           and
           Christianity
           ,
           it
           quite
           overthrew
           the
           foul
           charge
           of
           its
           Adversaries
           There
           ,
           from
           their
           Books
           and
           Pulpits
           ;
           and
           this
           so
           home
           ,
           that
           they
           had
           no
           other
           way
           of
           preserving
           their
           Credit
           with
           their
           Flock
           ,
           than
           to
           declare
           to
           them
           ,
           that
           the
           Character
           set
           forth
           by
           the
           Bishop
           was
           not
           Exact
           and
           True
           ;
           but
           only
           
           vampt
           up
           by
           him
           into
           that
           Form
           for
           the
           benefit
           of
           the
           Publick
           cause
           .
           Upon
           which
           he
           Published
           another
           Edition
           with
           several
           distinct
           attestations
           of
           many
           Bishops
           and
           Cardinals
           ,
           and
           of
           the
           present
           Pope
           himself
           ,
           wherein
           they
           at
           large
           approve
           the
           Doctrine
           contain'd
           in
           that
           Treatise
           ,
           for
           the
           Faith
           and
           Doctrine
           of
           the
           
             Church
             of
             Rome
          
           ,
           and
           conform
           to
           the
           Council
           of
           Trent
           .
           And
           now
           Sir
           ,
           in
           proposing
           the
           Faith
           of
           our
           Church
           ,
           as
           I
           found
           it
           deliver'd
           by
           this
           Reverend
           Prelate
           ,
           and
           supported
           by
           such
           Authentick
           approbations
           ,
           wherein
           have
           I
           Entrenched
           upon
           the
           Priviledge
           of
           the
           
             Apostolick
             See
          
           ,
           of
           Interpreting
           the
           Council
           of
           Trent
           ?
           Or
           what
           necessity
           of
           relying
           upon
           a
           
             private
             Mans
             Judgment
          
           ,
           as
           you
           Phrase
           it
           ,
           
             of
             no
             Name
             ,
             and
             no
             Authority
             ,
          
           instead
           of
           that
           of
           the
           Pope
           and
           Council
           ?
           The
           Faith
           of
           a
           Papist
           I
           have
           deliver'd
           according
           to
           the
           Catechism
           Publish'd
           by
           Order
           of
           the
           Council
           ,
           or
           as
           Explicated
           by
           a
           Prelate
           ,
           who
           brings
           along
           with
           him
           the
           Authority
           of
           the
           
             See
             Apostolick
          
           ;
           and
           which
           part
           of
           all
           this
           is
           my
           
             private
             Sense
             or
             Opinion
          
           ?
        
         
           But
           you
           offer
           to
           make
           good
           this
           charge
           in
           some
           Instances
           .
           
           As
           in
           the
           
             Invocation
             of
             Saints
          
           ,
           I
           seem
           to
           limit
           their
           Power
           of
           helping
           us
           to
           
             Prayers
             only
          
           ,
           which
           Limitation
           is
           not
           to
           be
           found
           in
           the
           Council
           of
           Trent
           .
           I
           cannot
           but
           acknowledge
           Sir
           ,
           that
           the
           Council
           mentions
           their
           Aid
           and
           Assistance
           ,
           which
           we
           may
           reasonably
           expect
           .
           But
           there
           being
           no
           other
           means
           ,
           of
           their
           Aiding
           and
           Assisting
           us
           express'd
           in
           the
           Council
           ,
           or
           in
           the
           
             Catechism
             ad
             Parochos
          
           ,
           besides
           that
           of
           their
           Prayers
           to
           God
           to
           obtain
           benefits
           for
           us
           ,
           through
           our
           only
           Saviour
           and
           Redeemer
           Jesus
           Christ
           .
           And
           it
           being
           thus
           limited
           by
           the
           Bishop
           of
           Condom
           on
           this
           Subject
           (
           pag.
           33.
           
           Edit
           .
           Pa.
           1681.
           )
           with
           the
           Pope
           
           and
           Cardinal's
           approbation
           ;
           I
           think
           I
           need
           no
           farther
           vindication
           to
           shew
           ,
           that
           in
           the
           proposal
           of
           that
           Point
           ,
           I
           follow'd
           not
           my
           own
           
             private
             sense
          
           or
           Opinion
           ,
           as
           you
           endeavour
           to
           prove
           .
        
         
           In
           the
           Point
           of
           Merit
           you
           urge
           this
           again
           (
           pag.
           56.
           )
           as
           if
           I
           had
           
             qualified
             this
             Doctrine
             with
             the
             dependance
             on
             Grace
             ,
             on
             God's
             goodness
             and
             Promise
             ,
          
           without
           the
           Authority
           of
           the
           Council
           ;
           there
           being
           no
           such
           qualification
           express'd
           in
           Can.
           32.
           read
           and
           cited
           by
           you
           .
           'T
           is
           true
           ,
           't
           is
           not
           in
           this
           Canon
           .
           But
           if
           you
           please
           to
           look
           back
           to
           
             Can.
             26.
             
             Sex.
          
           6.
           you
           'l
           find
           it
           there
           clear
           enough
           to
           aquit
           me
           from
           the
           scandal
           of
           publishing
           my
           own
           
             private
             sense
          
           or
           Opinion
           .
        
         
           You
           instance
           again
           (
           pag.
           11.
           )
           in
           the
           Point
           of
           the
           
             Popes
             personal
             Infallibility
          
           ,
           which
           I
           represent
           to
           be
           
             no
             matter
             of
             Faith
          
           :
           (
           pag.
           42.
           )
           and
           what
           reason
           have
           you
           ,
           you
           say
           ,
           to
           adhere
           to
           my
           representation
           ,
           rather
           than
           to
           that
           of
           many
           others
           ,
           who
           assert
           the
           contrary
           ?
           But
           this
           difficulty
           is
           nothing
           but
           your
           mistake
           :
           for
           I
           do
           not
           in
           the
           least
           deliver
           here
           my
           own
           private
           sentiment
           or
           opinion
           touching
           this
           point
           ,
           in
           opposition
           to
           other
           Authors
           :
           But
           I
           only
           by
           way
           of
           Narative
           relate
           ,
           that
           whereas
           some
           Divines
           endeavour
           in
           their
           School
           debates
           to
           prove
           and
           maintain
           this
           
             Personal
             Infallibility
          
           ,
           yet
           it
           is
           not
           receiv'd
           amongst
           Catholicks
           as
           any
           
             matter
             of
             Faith
          
           ,
           because
           not
           positively
           determin'd
           by
           any
           
             General
             Council
          
           ,
           and
           propos'd
           to
           the
           Faithful
           to
           be
           embrac'd
           as
           such
           .
           And
           this
           Sir
           again
           is
           not
           my
           private
           sense
           or
           Opinion
           ,
           but
           a
           bare
           Narative
           of
           matter
           of
           Fact.
           
        
         
           But
           I
           am
           now
           to
           encounter
           your
           
           Goliath-Argument
           ,
           which
           shews
           it self
           throughout
           your
           Answer
           ,
           and
           seems
           to
           defy
           all
           the
           Hosts
           of
           Israel
           .
           If
           I
           can
           find
           never
           a
           Stone
           to
           fling
           at
           it
           ,
           I
           must
           e'en
           lie
           at
           its
           mercy
           .
           
           And
           it
           appears
           thus
           .
           
           In
           my
           Character
           of
           a
           
             Papist
             Represented
          
           I
           pretend
           to
           declare
           the
           Faith
           of
           a
           Roman
           Catholick
           ,
           as
           't
           is
           defin'd
           and
           deliver'd
           in
           allow'd
           
             General
             Councils
          
           ;
           and
           yet
           tho
           the
           
             Deposing
             Doctrine
          
           has
           been
           as
           evidently
           declar'd
           in
           such
           Councils
           ,
           as
           ever
           Purgatory
           and
           Transubstantiation
           were
           in
           that
           of
           Trent
           ,
           yet
           still
           
             with
             me
             't
             is
             no
             Article
             of
             our
             Faith.
          
           This
           is
           the
           main
           strength
           of
           it
           ,
           as
           urg'd
           by
           you
           on
           several
           occasions
           .
        
         
           I
           answer
           it
           in
           short
           ;
           that
           tho
           all
           
             Doctrinal
             Points
          
           defin'd
           in
           any
           
             approv'd
             General
             Council
          
           ,
           and
           propos'd
           to
           the
           Faithful
           to
           be
           receiv'd
           under
           an
           Anathema
           ,
           are
           with
           us
           so
           many
           
             Articles
             of
             Faith
          
           ,
           and
           are
           obligatory
           to
           all
           of
           our
           Communion
           :
           Yet
           not
           so
           of
           every
           
             other
             matter
          
           declar'd
           in
           such
           a
           Council
           :
           There
           being
           many
           things
           treated
           of
           ,
           and
           resolv'd
           on
           in
           such
           an
           Assembly
           ,
           which
           concern
           not
           the
           Faith
           of
           the
           Church
           ,
           but
           only
           some
           matter
           of
           Discipline
           ,
           Government
           ,
           or
           other
           more
           particular
           Affair
           .
           And
           
             these
             Constitutions
          
           or
           Decrees
           are
           not
           absolutely
           Obligatory
           ,
           as
           is
           evident
           even
           in
           the
           Council
           of
           Trent
           ,
           as
           is
           before
           hinted
           ;
           whose
           Decrees
           of
           Doctrine
           are
           as
           much
           acknowledg'd
           here
           by
           Catholicks
           in
           England
           and
           Germany
           ,
           as
           within
           the
           Walls
           of
           Rome
           it self
           ,
           or
           the
           Vatican
           :
           And
           yet
           it
           's
           
             other
             Constitutions
          
           and
           Decrees
           are
           not
           universally
           receiv'd
           ,
           and
           it
           may
           be
           never
           will.
           Now
           Sir
           ,
           altho
           we
           allow
           some
           Councils
           have
           made
           decrees
           for
           deposing
           in
           
             particular
             Cases
          
           ,
           yet
           the
           Power
           it self
           not
           being
           declar'd
           as
           a
           
             Doctrinal
             Point
          
           ;
           and
           the
           Decrees
           relating
           only
           to
           matter
           of
           Discipline
           and
           Government
           ,
           it
           comes
           short
           of
           being
           an
           Article
           of
           our
           Faith
           ,
           and
           all
           that
           in
           your
           Answer
           depends
           on
           it
           ,
           falls
           to
           the
           Ground
           .
           I
           have
           no
           place
           here
           to
           give
           you
           a
           
           distinct
           account
           of
           the
           several
           matters
           treated
           of
           in
           Councils
           ,
           and
           of
           the
           difference
           between
           Decrees
           of
           Faith
           ,
           and
           others
           which
           are
           not
           so
           ;
           yet
           because
           you
           seem
           to
           require
           some
           satisfaction
           in
           these
           Points
           ,
           I
           remit
           you
           to
           such
           Authors
           ,
           who
           treat
           of
           them
           at
           large
           and
           most
           particularly
           the
           
             Considerations
             upon
             the
             Council
             of
             Trent
             ,
             Canus
             ,
             Bellarmine
          
           and
           others
           .
           This
           that
           I
           have
           here
           said
           may
           be
           sufficient
           to
           evince
           ,
           that
           in
           my
           declaring
           the
           
             deposing
             Power
          
           to
           be
           
             no
             Article
             of
             Faith
          
           ,
           I
           have
           not
           follow'd
           my
           own
           Private
           Opinion
           or
           meerly
           the
           number
           of
           Authors
           ,
           but
           rather
           the
           sense
           of
           the
           
             whole
             Church
             ,
             Councils
             ,
             and
             Popes
          
           themselves
           ,
           who
           plainly
           enough
           own
           this
           ,
           in
           letting
           so
           many
           open
           and
           Positive
           Assertors
           of
           the
           
             no-deposing
             Power
          
           ,
           to
           pass
           without
           any
           Censure
           of
           Heresie
           :
           It
           being
           certain
           that
           ,
           were
           this
           Doctrine
           any
           Article
           of
           our
           Faith
           ,
           as
           likewise
           that
           mention'd
           in
           the
           preceeding
           Paragraph
           ,
           of
           the
           
             Popes
             Personal
             Infallibility
          
           ,
           the
           obstinate
           Opposers
           of
           them
           would
           no
           more
           escape
           without
           
             that
             brand
          
           ,
           than
           those
           that
           deny
           
             other
             Articles
          
           of
           our
           Faith
           ,
           as
           Purgatory
           and
           Transubstantiation
           .
        
         
           These
           Instances
           I
           look
           upon
           as
           the
           most
           Principal
           throughout
           your
           whole
           Reply
           ,
           because
           in
           them
           you
           have
           made
           use
           of
           a
           Medium
           directly
           opposit
           to
           the
           Intent
           of
           my
           Book
           ,
           and
           which
           if
           it
           had
           been
           effectual
           ,
           would
           have
           shew'd
           ,
           that
           I
           have
           not
           Represented
           the
           Faith
           of
           the
           Papist
           according
           to
           the
           Rule
           of
           approv'd
           General
           Councils
           ,
           as
           I
           pretend
           ;
           but
           rather
           according
           to
           my
           own
           private
           apprehension
           or
           Opinion
           ;
           which
           I
           confess
           would
           have
           been
           a
           
             full
             Answer
          
           to
           it
           as
           to
           such
           particulars
           .
           But
           how
           far
           you
           have
           fail'd
           of
           your
           endeavours
           even
           in
           this
           Point
           ,
           I
           leave
           now
           to
           the
           Prudent
           Considerer
           to
           judge
           .
           But
           the
           way
           you
           take
           
           in
           all
           other
           Parts
           of
           your
           Book
           ,
           seems
           to
           me
           not
           to
           answer
           your
           design
           ,
           nor
           to
           agree
           with
           the
           Title
           of
           it
           .
           For
           whereas
           I
           undertake
           to
           propose
           the
           Faith
           of
           a
           
             Roman
             Catholick
          
           ,
           as
           he
           is
           really
           taught
           to
           believe
           in
           Conformity
           to
           the
           Definitions
           of
           Oecumenical
           Councils
           :
           Bating
           those
           Points
           I
           have
           already
           spoke
           to
           ,
           in
           your
           Answer
           ,
        
         
           You
           either
           own
           the
           Doctrine
           ,
           to
           be
           the
           establish'd
           Belief
           of
           
             your
             Church
          
           ,
           as
           in
           part
           that
           of
           the
           Power
           of
           
             Priestly
             Absolution
             ,
             Confession
          
           ,
           of
           due
           veneration
           to
           the
           Relicks
           of
           Saints
           ,
           of
           Merit
           ,
           of
           Satisfaction
           ,
           of
           the
           Authority
           of
           the
           Church
           ,
           of
           
             General
             Councils
          
           ,
           &c.
           
        
         
           Or
           you
           shew
           the
           Doctrine
           I
           have
           deliver'd
           ,
           not
           to
           be
           the
           Faith
           of
           our
           Church
           ,
           by
           appealing
           from
           the
           Definitions
           of
           our
           Councils
           ,
           
           and
           sense
           of
           our
           Church
           ,
           to
           some
           expressions
           found
           in
           Old
           
             Mass
             books
             ,
             Rituals
          
           &c.
           as
           if
           this
           were
           a
           serious
           way
           of
           
             truly
             Representing
          
           the
           Doctrines
           of
           the
           Church
           of
           Rome
           .
           Can
           any
           Religion
           stand
           this
           Test
           ?
           Will
           not
           many
           Expressions
           in
           all
           sorts
           of
           
             Prayers
             ,
             Preaching
          
           ,
           and
           Devotions
           ,
           if
           separated
           from
           the
           sense
           of
           the
           Church
           ,
           prove
           unjustifiable
           and
           Ridiculous
           ?
           Let
           but
           an
           Atheist
           take
           this
           liberty
           even
           with
           the
           Scripture
           it self
           ,
           and
           thus
           separate
           infinite
           number
           of
           expressions
           there
           ,
           and
           see
           what
           will
           be
           presently
           the
           colour
           of
           
             all
             Religion
          
           ,
           and
           whether
           Christianity
           will
           be
           better
           than
           Turcism
           :
           And
           especially
           whether
           the
           
             allow'd
             Psalms
          
           in
           Meeter
           will
           prove
           the
           devotion
           of
           men
           of
           sence
           and
           reason
           ;
           tho
           all
           may
           be
           reconcileable
           to
           Piety
           and
           Religion
           ,
           if
           taken
           in
           the
           sense
           of
           the
           Church
           .
        
         
           Or
           you
           appeal
           again
           from
           the
           Declarations
           of
           our
           Councils
           ,
           and
           sense
           of
           our
           Church
           to
           some
           
             external
             Action
          
           ,
           as
           in
           case
           of
           respect
           shewn
           to
           Images
           and
           
           Saints
           ,
           
           upon
           which
           from
           our
           external
           Adoration
           ,
           by
           
             construction
             of
             the
             Fact
          
           ,
           viz
           
             kneeling
             ,
             bowing
          
           ,
           &c.
           you
           are
           willing
           to
           conclude
           us
           guilty
           of
           Idolatry
           :
           As
           if
           a
           true
           judgment
           could
           be
           made
           of
           
             these
             Actions
          
           ,
           without
           respect
           to
           the
           Intention
           of
           the
           Church
           ,
           that
           directs
           them
           ,
           and
           of
           the
           Person
           ,
           that
           does
           them
           .
           As
           if
           they
           were
           not
           in
           themselves
           Indifferent
           ,
           and
           capable
           of
           being
           paid
           to
           God
           ,
           or
           to
           Men.
           Or
           as
           if
           your
           measures
           being
           follow'd
           ,
           Abigail
           ought
           not
           to
           come
           in
           ,
           and
           share
           with
           us
           in
           our
           
             constructive
             Idolatry
          
           ,
           because
           
             she
             fell
             before
          
           David
           
             on
             her
             face
          
           ,
           
           
             and
             bow'd
             her self
             to
             the
             ground
             ,
             and
             fell
             at
             his
             feet
             .
             Joshua
          
           likewise
           ,
           because
           he
           
             fell
             on
             his
             face
             to
             the
             earth
             ,
          
           
           
             and
             did
             worship
             the
             Angel.
          
           And
           as
           many
           who
           on
           their
           knees
           pay
           their
           respects
           to
           the
           King
           and
           bow
           before
           him
           :
           As
           likewise
           all
           the
           Beggers
           in
           Lincolns-Inn
           fields
           ,
           who
           on
           their
           knees
           ,
           with
           their
           hands
           lifted
           up
           ,
           ask
           an
           alms
           of
           Passers-by
           :
           Must
           not
           all
           these
           by
           
             construction
             of
             Fact
          
           come
           into
           the
           list
           of
           your
           Idolaters
           ?
        
         
           Or
           finally
           ,
           not
           being
           willing
           the
           Doctrine
           should
           pass
           for
           ours
           ,
           in
           the
           form
           I
           have
           stated
           it
           ,
           you
           appeal
           again
           from
           our
           Councils
           and
           Sense
           of
           the
           Church
           ,
           which
           I
           follow
           ,
           to
           the
           Sentimetns
           of
           some
           of
           our
           own
           
             Private
             Authors
          
           ,
           and
           so
           you
           come
           often
           with
           ,
           this
           
             French
             Author
          
           says
           this
           ,
           Vives
           says
           that
           ,
           Wicelius
           says
           another
           thing
           ,
           and
           Lessius
           another
           ;
           by
           this
           method
           endeavouring
           to
           convince
           your
           Reader
           ,
           that
           the
           Belief
           of
           a
           Papist
           ,
           is
           much
           different
           from
           what
           I
           ahve
           represented
           it
           .
           But
           Sir
           ,
           this
           way
           may
           do
           well
           enough
           with
           the
           unwary
           ;
           but
           it
           ill
           suits
           with
           what
           you
           pretend
           .
           The
           Frontis
           piece
           of
           your
           Book
           puts
           us
           upon
           expecting
           
             The
             Doctrines
             and
             Practices
             of
             the
             Church
             of
             Rome
             truly
             Represented
             .
          
           And
           when
           
           we
           come
           to
           peruse
           it
           ,
           we
           find
           several
           Doctrines
           propos'd
           ,
           but
           without
           any
           Authority
           of
           Church
           or
           Councils
           ,
           but
           
             this
             Author
             says
             this
          
           ,
           and
           
             that
             Author
             says
             that
          
           ;
           as
           if
           the
           Sense
           of
           every
           Author
           ,
           were
           immediately
           the
           Doctrine
           ;
           of
           our
           Church
           .
           The
           Church
           speaks
           to
           us
           in
           her
           
             approv'd
             General
             Councils
          
           ,
           and
           from
           them
           you
           might
           have
           
             truly
             Represented
          
           her
           Belief
           and
           Doctrine
           but
           from
           
             particular
             Authors
          
           ,
           some
           of
           which
           may
           Write
           upon
           a
           Pique
           ,
           others
           upon
           a
           Passion
           ,
           others
           upon
           some
           other
           Biass
           ,
           nothing
           more
           can
           be
           Collected
           besides
           their
           
             own
             Opinion
          
           ,
           and
           with
           understanding
           Men
           it
           passes
           for
           no
           more
           .
           So
           that
           nothing
           can
           be
           more
           unjustifiable
           ,
           than
           to
           make
           a
           Collection
           of
           private
           Mens
           sentiments
           ,
           and
           obtrude
           them
           for
           the
           
             truly
             Representing
          
           the
           Doctrine
           of
           the
           Church
           in
           whose
           Communion
           they
           are
           .
           And
           this
           is
           not
           the
           Case
           of
           
             our
             Church
          
           alone
           ,
           there
           's
           no
           Church
           or
           Congregation
           in
           the
           World
           will
           stand
           this
           Test
           .
           And
           if
           it
           come
           a
           little
           home
           to
           you
           ,
           it
           may
           be
           you
           will
           be
           more
           sensible
           of
           this
           truth
           .
           For
           althô
           you
           seem
           to
           maintain
           in
           your
           Answer
           ,
           
           that
           
             good
             works
             of
             justified
             Persons
             are
             not
             Free
          
           ;
           yet
           t
           is
           not
           just
           ,
           
             this
             Doctrine
          
           should
           be
           immediately
           charg'd
           for
           the
           Belief
           of
           
             your
             Church
          
           .
           Althô
           Mr.
           Thorndike
           seems
           to
           allow
           
             Prayers
             for
             the
             Dead
          
           ,
           yet
           neither
           from
           him
           are
           we
           to
           take
           a
           
             true
             representation
          
           of
           the
           Doctrin
           of
           
             his
             Church
          
           .
           Thô
           a
           worthy
           Divine
           declares
           ,
           
           
             that
             in
             case
             a
             Popish
          
           Julian
           
             indeed
             should
             Reign
             over
             us
             ,
             he
             should
             Believe
             him
             uncapable
             of
             Repentance
             ,
             and
             upon
             that
             supposition
             should
             be
             tempted
             to
             pray
             for
             his
             Destruction
          
           ;
           yet
           would
           it
           not
           be
           honest
           hence
           to
           blacken
           
             his
             Church
          
           with
           this
           Dis-loyal
           Principle
           ,
           as
           if
           she
           allowed
           her
           Members
           ,
           thô
           not
           to
           Fight
           against
           ,
           yet
           to
           
             Pray
             for
             the
             Destruction
          
           of
           
             such
             a
             Prince
          
           .
           The
           like
           
           may
           be
           said
           of
           
             King
             James
          
           the
           First
           his
           holding
           Christ
           to
           be
           
             truly
             present
          
           in
           the
           Sacrament
           ,
           and
           there
           also
           to
           be
           truly
           ador'd
           ,
           maintaining
           in
           his
           Epistle
           to
           Cardinal
           Perron
           the
           Doctrine
           of
           the
           
             Real
             Presence
          
           to
           be
           the
           Doctrine
           of
           the
           Church
           of
           England
           :
           and
           again
           what
           the
           aforesaid
           Mr.
           Thorndike
           delivers
           of
           the
           same
           
             Real
             Presence
          
           and
           Adoration
           of
           Christ
           in
           the
           Eucharist
           ,
           
           practis'd
           in
           the
           Antient
           Church
           from
           the
           beginning
           ;
           and
           thereupon
           owning
           the
           
             Eucharistical
             Sacrifice
          
           to
           be
           truely
           the
           Sacrifice
           of
           Christ
           upon
           the
           Cross
           ,
           in
           as
           much
           as
           the
           Body
           and
           Blood
           of
           Christ
           are
           contain'd
           in
           them
           ;
           and
           then
           farther
           adding
           ,
           that
           the
           Sacrifice
           of
           the
           Cross
           being
           necessarily
           Propitiatory
           and
           Impetratory
           both
           ,
           it
           cannot
           be
           denied
           ,
           that
           the
           Sacrament
           of
           the
           Eucharist
           ,
           in
           as
           much
           as
           it
           is
           the
           same
           Sacrifice
           of
           Christ
           upon
           the
           Cross
           ,
           is
           also
           both
           Propitiatory
           and
           Impetratory
           .
           Will
           you
           give
           me
           leave
           from
           hence
           to
           inferr
           ;
           that
           because
           these
           are
           the
           sentiments
           of
           such
           Eminent
           Persons
           in
           the
           Communion
           of
           the
           Church
           of
           England
           ,
           that
           therefore
           they
           are
           the
           Doctrine
           of
           that
           Church
           ,
           I
           suppose
           you
           will
           not
           ;
           and
           therefore
           in
           the
           
             true
             Representation
          
           of
           the
           Doctrine
           of
           yours
           or
           our
           Church
           ,
           I
           suppose
           ,
           you
           will
           easily
           grant
           ,
           that
           no
           appeal
           ought
           to
           be
           made
           to
           such
           
             Private
             Authors
          
           ;
           but
           the
           Undertaker
           is
           oblig'd
           to
           keep
           close
           to
           the
           sense
           of
           either
           Church
           ,
           declar'd
           in
           their
           Councils
           and
           Decrees
           ,
           and
           as
           explicated
           by
           their
           Authority
           :
           And
           as
           far
           as
           you
           have
           effectually
           prov'd
           this
           against
           what
           I
           have
           represented
           for
           the
           Faith
           of
           a
           Papist
           ,
           so
           so
           far
           will
           I
           allow
           you
           have
           given
           me
           a
           
             just
             Answer
          
           ;
           And
           as
           much
           as
           you
           fail
           of
           this
           ,
           so
           much
           you
           come
           short
           of
           what
           you
           undertake
           ,
           which
           I
           recommend
           to
           your
           own
           perusal
           to
           examine
           .
        
         
         
           But
           for
           any
           of
           these
           ways
           they
           are
           insignificant
           to
           your
           design
           ,
           and
           deserve
           not
           to
           stand
           under
           the
           Title
           of
           an
           Answer
           .
           For
           how
           does
           your
           acknowledging
           our
           Doctrine
           to
           be
           yours
           :
           your
           producing
           some
           broken
           Expressions
           out
           of
           Mass-Books
           ,
           your
           putting
           Objections
           from
           
             external
             Actions
          
           ,
           from
           
             private
             Authors
          
           ,
           or
           your
           
             own
             Opinion
          
           ,
           any
           ways
           prove
           ,
           that
           the
           Faith
           of
           a
           Papist
           ,
           as
           I
           have
           represented
           it
           ,
           is
           not
           according
           to
           the
           Council
           of
           Trent
           ,
           and
           what
           really
           he
           is
           bound
           ,
           as
           a
           Papist
           ,
           to
           Believe
           ?
           And
           yet
           this
           is
           the
           thing
           you
           ought
           to
           have
           prov'd
           ,
           to
           make
           good
           your
           Title
           .
           But
           instead
           of
           this
           ,
           you
           generally
           let
           your
           Reader
           understand
           ,
           that
           I
           have
           indeed
           stated
           the
           matter
           aright
           ,
           and
           only
           tell
           him
           ,
           that
           you
           have
           something
           to
           say
           against
           the
           Doctrine
           ,
           and
           do
           not
           like
           it
           .
           But
           your
           saying
           I
           hope
           (
           or
           if
           it
           could
           be
           proving
           )
           that
           Catholicks
           do
           not
           do
           well
           to
           Believe
           ,
           as
           I
           Represent
           ,
           is
           no
           Argument
           to
           prove
           that
           I
           do
           not
           
             Represent
             well
          
           .
           This
           as
           to
           the
           Representing
           the
           Doctrine
           of
           our
           Church
           .
        
         
           I
           should
           say
           something
           to
           your
           concluding
           Argument
           which
           comes
           so
           home
           (
           p.
           14.
           )
           I
           allow
           it
           seems
           ,
           the
           
             Orders
             of
             the
             Supream
             Pastor
             are
             to
             be
             obey'd
             ,
             whether
             he
             be
             Infallible
             or
             no.
          
           I
           confess
           likewise
           in
           another
           place
           ,
           that
           
             some
             Popes
             have
             own'd
             the
             Deposing
             Doctrine
             ,
             and
             Acted
             according
             to
             it
             .
          
           And
           here
           you
           infer
           ,
           Therefore
           the
           Papists
           are
           bound
           by
           the
           Doctrine
           of
           their
           Church
           to
           Act
           ,
           when
           the
           Popes
           shall
           require
           it
           ,
           according
           to
           the
           Deposing
           Power
           .
           And
           does
           this
           
             bring
             the
             matter
             home
          
           ?
           Why
           then
           Sir
           ,
           you
           must
           ee'n
           give
           me
           leave
           to
           make
           another
           inference
           :
           That
           ,
           What
           brings
           the
           matter
           home
           is
           nothing
           but
           an
           ordinary
           piece
           of
           Sophistry
           ,
           and
           let
           the
           Reader
           
           judge
           .
           The
           Representer
           (
           p.
           42.
           )
           speaking
           of
           the
           Popes
           Authority
           ,
           says
           ,
           that
           as
           in
           any
           Civil
           Government
           ,
           the
           Sentence
           of
           the
           Supream
           Judge
           or
           Highest
           Tribunal
           is
           to
           be
           Obey'd
           ,
           thô
           there
           be
           no
           assurance
           of
           Infallibility
           or
           Divine
           Protection
           from
           Error
           or
           Mistake
           :
           So
           is
           he
           taught
           should
           be
           done
           to
           the
           Orders
           of
           the
           Supream
           Pastor
           ,
           whether
           he
           be
           Infallible
           or
           no.
           
        
         
           Where
           a
           Parallel
           is
           made
           between
           the
           Orders
           of
           Popes
           and
           
             Civil
             Powers
          
           ,
           as
           to
           the
           Obedience
           due
           to
           them
           from
           their
           Subjects
           .
           Now
           Sir
           ,
           if
           it
           be
           your
           Opinion
           that
           this
           Authority
           and
           Power
           in
           
             these
             Supream
          
           Governours
           is
           so
           Absolute
           and
           Vnconfin'd
           ,
           that
           like
           to
           God
           himself
           there
           can
           be
           no
           just
           exception
           made
           to
           any
           of
           their
           Actions
           or
           Decrees
           ,
           whatsoever
           they
           be
           :
           then
           indeed
           your
           reasoning
           Answers
           your
           intent
           .
           But
           if
           the
           Case
           be
           possible
           ,
           that
           these
           may
           so
           Act
           or
           Command
           ,
           that
           the
           not-following
           or
           not-obeying
           in
           Inferiors
           may
           be
           
             no
             Crime
          
           ;
           then
           you
           come
           but
           short
           of
           home
           ,
           and
           prove
           just
           nothing
           .
           Now
           change
           but
           the
           matter
           of
           your
           Argument
           ,
           and
           see
           how
           far
           it
           goes
           .
           The
           Orders
           of
           a
           Prince
           ,
           being
           Supream
           Governour
           ,
           are
           to
           be
           Obey'd
           ,
           whether
           he
           be
           Infallible
           or
           no
           :
           But
           some
           Princes
           have
           done
           thus
           and
           thus
           ;
           therefore
           the
           People
           by
           the
           Law
           are
           bound
           to
           Act
           so
           and
           so
           :
           Does
           this
           hold
           in
           every
           Action
           or
           Order
           of
           a
           Prince
           ,
           without
           Limit
           or
           Exception
           ?
           Tho
           a
           Prince
           be
           to
           be
           obey'd
           ,
           yet
           it
           follows
           uot
           that
           his
           Word
           is
           the
           Law
           ?
           So
           that
           whosoever
           takes
           this
           for
           a
           concluding
           Argument
           ,
           must
           neither
           understand
           Law
           nor
           Logick
           .
        
         
           I
           need
           not
           put
           the
           Reader
           in
           mind
           ,
           how
           often
           you
           make
           your
           digressions
           amongst
           the
           School-men
           ,
           and
           leave
           not
           scouting
           among
           them
           ,
           till
           you
           have
           lost
           the
           matter
           in
           hand
           :
           And
           dispute
           about
           their
           Opinions
           ,
           instead
           
           of
           matter
           of
           Faith
           ;
           how
           in
           the
           Point
           of
           dispensations
           ,
           where
           we
           speak
           of
           the
           
             Moral
             Law
          
           ;
           and
           assert
           the
           Pope
           cannot
           dispense
           with
           it
           ,
           as
           give
           leave
           to
           break
           the
           Commandments
           ,
           to
           
             lye
             or
             for-swear
          
           :
           You
           shew
           your
           learning
           ,
           in
           proving
           he
           can
           dispense
           with
           
             other
             Laws
          
           and
           
             Positive
             Institutions
          
           ,
           a
           thing
           scarce
           to
           be
           doubted
           of
           ,
           and
           nothing
           to
           our
           purpose
           .
           I
           le
           say
           nothing
           of
           the
           admirable
           close
           of
           Your
           Chapter
           of
           Dispensations
           ,
           in
           which
           tho
           you
           have
           not
           produc'd
           one
           proof
           of
           Dispensations
           ,
           for
           lying
           or
           
             for
             swearing
          
           being
           allow'd
           in
           our
           Church
           on
           any
           account
           whatsoever
           ,
           you
           yet
           give
           this
           assurance
           to
           your
           Reader
           ;
           
             We
             know
             this
             Dispensing
             Power
             is
             to
             be
             kept
             up
             as
             a
             great
             Mystery
             ,
             and
             not
             to
             be
             made
             use
             of
             ,
             but
             upon
             weighty
             and
             urgent
             Causes
             —
             as
             their
             Doctrines
             declare
             .
          
           Where
           certainly
           one
           proof
           of
           the
           Who
           ,
           the
           Where
           and
           the
           When
           ,
           had
           been
           much
           more
           Satisfactory
           ,
           than
           the
           Positive
           
             We
             know
          
           ,
           and
           
             Their
             Doctrines
             declare
          
           :
           For
           tho
           many
           are
           willing
           to
           take
           this
           upon
           trust
           ,
           yet
           it
           would
           have
           gone
           farther
           ,
           
           if
           you
           had
           prov'd
           it
           down
           right
           ,
           without
           taking
           Sanctuary
           in
           a
           Mystery
           .
           I
           le
           pass
           by
           your
           dexterity
           wherewith
           you
           have
           manag'd
           the
           History
           of
           St.
           Perpetua
           in
           the
           Chap.
           of
           Purgatory
           :
           Where
           after
           you
           have
           disguis'd
           it
           to
           your
           purpose
           in
           the
           Relation
           ,
           and
           drol'd
           the
           Vision
           of
           a
           Martyr
           ,
           and
           so
           esteem'd
           by
           St.
           Augustin
           ,
           into
           a
           young
           Ladies
           Dream
           ,
           you
           at
           last
           set
           it
           forth
           for
           the
           Foundation
           of
           our
           Churches
           Doctrine
           ,
           and
           would
           perswade
           your
           Reader
           ,
           that
           Our
           Tenent
           of
           Purgatory
           is
           built
           upon
           it
           ;
           when
           't
           is
           us'd
           by
           me
           for
           no
           more
           ,
           than
           a
           
             Marginal
             Citation
          
           ,
           amongst
           several
           others
           :
           And
           yet
           this
           is
           our
           Foundation
           ,
           and
           our
           Doctrine
           is
           built
           on
           it
           :
           Here
           I
           fear
           ,
           you
           had
           forgot
           your
           promise
           made
           in
           the
           
           beginning
           of
           being
           sincere
           ,
           
           and
           using
           no
           Tricks
           .
           But
           I
           forbear
           ,
        
         
           And
           will
           only
           conclude
           ,
           that
           if
           you
           have
           
             truly
             represented
             the
             Doctrines
             of
             the
             Church
             of
             Rome
             ,
          
           I
           would
           as
           soon
           be
           a
           Turk
           as
           
             your
             Papist
          
           ;
           whose
           character
           you
           have
           drawn
           at
           large
           throughout
           your
           Book
           ,
           and
           
             in
             little
          
           in
           pag.
           161.
           which
           ,
           however
           you
           may
           call
           
             truly
             Representing
          
           ,
           I
           can
           look
           upon
           no
           better
           than
           
             truly
             Mis-representing
          
           .
           And
           by
           what
           I
           see
           ,
           I
           think
           I
           might
           with
           as
           good
           reason
           go
           to
           a
           Pharisee
           ,
           to
           be
           inform'd
           of
           Christ
           ,
           and
           receive
           the
           Character
           of
           a
           Christian
           from
           a
           Mahometan
           ;
           as
           come
           to
           you
           ,
           to
           know
           what
           a
           Papist
           is
           ,
           what
           his
           Belief
           and
           Doctrine
           .
           Neither
           do
           I
           wonder
           ,
           that
           you
           come
           thus
           wide
           of
           what
           you
           pretend
           to
           :
           The
           method
           you
           take
           ,
           would
           bring
           a
           Scandal
           even
           upon
           the
           Apostles
           themselves
           ,
           and
           render
           the
           Church
           of
           those
           purer
           times
           ,
           of
           the
           same
           colour
           with
           ours
           .
           Observe
           but
           the
           same
           ,
           in
           drawing
           the
           Features
           of
           
             your
             own
             Chuch
          
           ,
           and
           then
           tell
           me
           whether
           this
           be
           the
           way
           of
           
             truely
             representing
          
           .
           If
           a
           man
           were
           but
           to
           bring
           into
           publick
           your
           School-debates
           ,
           the
           
             differing
             Opinions
          
           of
           your
           own
           Authors
           ,
           concerning
           the
           
             Scriptures
             ,
             Predestination
             ,
             Freewill
          
           ,
           the
           Authority
           of
           the
           Church
           ,
           the
           
             Reformation
             ,
             Traditions
          
           ,
           &c.
           all
           expressions
           of
           
             Sermons
             ,
             Prayers
          
           ,
           &c.
           and
           out
           of
           these
           ,
           and
           all
           others
           of
           this
           kind
           ,
           pick
           out
           and
           patch
           up
           a
           Religion
           according
           to
           the
           best
           contrivance
           of
           the
           Undertaker
           ,
           and
           then
           shew
           it
           forth
           to
           the
           world
           ,
           do
           you
           think
           ,
           this
           would
           be
           
             yours
             truly
             represented
          
           ?
           Why
           then
           must
           such
           another
           Jumble
           as
           this
           be
           exposed
           to
           the
           World
           for
           ours
           ?
           If
           you
           'l
           let
           your
           Flock
           see
           what
           our
           Religion
           is
           ,
           send
           them
           to
           the
           Council
           of
           Trent
           ,
           the
           
             Catechism
             
             ad
             Parochos
          
           ,
           this
           wee
           'l
           own
           and
           stand
           by
           :
           But
           for
           you
           to
           pick
           here
           a
           bit
           and
           there
           a
           bit
           ,
           to
           patch
           as
           you
           please
           ,
           to
           make
           your
           Inferences
           and
           Applications
           at
           pleasure
           ,
           and
           then
           to
           tell
           your
           Reader
           ,
           these
           are
           the
           Doctrines
           of
           the
           
             Church
             of
             Rome
             truly
             Represented
          
           ;
           this
           is
           to
           abuse
           the
           World
           and
           your selves
           ,
           and
           to
           render
           us
           Infamous
           for
           principles
           which
           are
           nothing
           of
           
             our
             Religion
          
           .
           And
           in
           Case
           you
           do
           not
           judge
           what
           I
           have
           here
           said
           sufficient
           to
           convince
           you
           ,
           that
           the
           Faith
           ,
           as
           I
           have
           Represented
           it
           ,
           is
           really
           the
           Faith
           of
           a
           Papist
           ,
           I
           'le
           be
           content
           all
           these
           Reasons
           at
           present
           pass
           for
           nought
           ;
           and
           that
           the
           decision
           of
           this
           whole
           affair
           depend
           upon
           an
           Experience
           .
           Do
           but
           you
           ,
           or
           any
           Friend
           for
           you
           )
           give
           your
           Assent
           to
           those
           Articles
           of
           Faith
           ,
           in
           the
           very
           form
           and
           manner
           ,
           as
           I
           have
           stated
           them
           ,
           in
           the
           Character
           of
           the
           
             Papist
             Represented
          
           ;
           and
           if
           upon
           request
           ,
           you
           are
           not
           admitted
           into
           the
           Communion
           of
           the
           
             Roman
             Catholicks
          
           ,
           and
           own'd
           to
           Believe
           aright
           in
           all
           those
           Points
           ,
           I
           'le
           then
           Confess
           ,
           that
           I
           have
           abus'd
           the
           World
           ,
           that
           my
           Representing
           is
           Mis-representing
           the
           Faith
           of
           a
           Papist
           ,
           and
           that
           my
           design
           has
           been
           not
           to
           undeceive
           ,
           but
           to
           deceive
           the
           People
           .
           But
           if
           on
           the
           contrary
           it
           shall
           appear
           ,
           that
           the
           Faith
           ,
           as
           I
           have
           Represented
           it
           ,
           is
           the
           approv'd
           Doctrine
           of
           that
           Church
           ,
           and
           sufficient
           for
           any
           one
           to
           be
           receiv'd
           a
           Member
           of
           it
           ,
           I
           may
           then
           justly
           renew
           my
           Complaint
           of
           its
           being
           Mis-represented
           ,
           that
           the
           Religion
           of
           the
           Papist
           is
           nothing
           like
           what
           't
           is
           commonly
           render'd
           ;
           and
           that
           't
           is
           a
           hard
           fate
           ,
           that
           the
           Professors
           of
           it
           should
           be
           so
           injur'd
           in
           their
           Reputation
           ,
           and
           by
           this
           means
           become
           so
           Odious
           ,
           that
           even
           amongst
           Fellow-Christians
           ,
           Atheists
           ,
           and
           Jews
           ,
           shall
           be
           tolerated
           with
           less
           regret
           than
           they
           .
        
         
           FINIS
           .
        
      
    
     
       
         Notes, typically marginal, from the original text
         
           Notes for div A41624-e10
           
             Answer
             pag.
             10
             ,
             11.
             
          
           
             pag.
             11.
             
          
           
             To.
             2.
             p.
             46.
             54.
             213.
             
             &c.
             Vol.
             3.
             p.
             515.
             
          
           
             pag.
             181.
             
          
           
             pag.
             99.
             
          
           
             Jov.
             Introd
             .
             pag.
             4.
             
          
           
             pag.
             9.
             
          
           
             〈…〉
             
          
           
             pag.
             9.
             
          
           
             pag.
             172.
             
          
           
             pag.
             10.
             
          
           
             pag.
             27.
             
          
           
             pag.
             12.
             143.
             
          
           
             pag.
             34
             ,
             35.
             
          
           
             pag.
             21.
             
          
           
             1
             Sam.
             25.
             24.
             
          
           
             Jos
             .
             5.
             14.
             
          
           
             p
             ,
             57.
             
          
           
             pag.
             152.
             
          
           
             Epil
             .
             1.
             3.
             c.
             5.
             
          
           
             pag.
             117.
             
          
           
             pag.
             9.