Master Grimstons argvment concerning bishops with Mr. Seldens answer also severall orders newly made in Parliament concerning chvrch government. Grimston, Harbottle, Sir, 1603-1685. This text is an enriched version of the TCP digital transcription A42163 of text R23474 in the English Short Title Catalog (Wing G2028). Textual changes and metadata enrichments aim at making the text more computationally tractable, easier to read, and suitable for network-based collaborative curation by amateur and professional end users from many walks of life. The text has been tokenized and linguistically annotated with MorphAdorner. The annotation includes standard spellings that support the display of a text in a standardized format that preserves archaic forms ('loveth', 'seekest'). Textual changes aim at restoring the text the author or stationer meant to publish. This text has not been fully proofread Approx. 5 KB of XML-encoded text transcribed from 4 1-bit group-IV TIFF page images. 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Reproduction of original in Thomason Collection, British Library. eng Church of England -- Bishops -- 17th century. Church polity. A42163 R23474 (Wing G2028). civilwar no Master Grimstons argument concerning bishops: with Mr. Seldens answer. Also severall orders newly made in Parliament concerning church gover Grimston, Harbottle, Sir 1641 869 1 0 0 0 0 0 12 C The rate of 12 defects per 10,000 words puts this text in the C category of texts with between 10 and 35 defects per 10,000 words. 2004-09 TCP Assigned for keying and markup 2004-09 Aptara Keyed and coded from ProQuest page images 2004-10 Emma (Leeson) Huber Sampled and proofread 2004-10 Emma (Leeson) Huber Text and markup reviewed and edited 2005-01 pfs Batch review (QC) and XML conversion Master Grimstons ARGVMENT Concerning Bishops : With Mr. Seldens Answer . Also severall Orders newly made in Parliament concerning CHVRCH GOVERNMENT . Printed 1641. Master GRIMSTONS Argument concerning Bishops . 1. THat Bishops are Iure Divino is a question . 2. That Arch-Bishops are not Iure Divino is out of question . 3. That Ministers are Iure Divino there is no question . Now if Bishops which are questioned whether Iure Divino , and Arch-Bishops which out of question are not Jure Divino , should suspend Ministers that are Iure Divino , I leave it to you Master Speaker . Master Seldens Answer . 1. That the Convocation is Iure Divino is a question . 2. That Parliaments are not Iure Divino is out of question . 3. That Religion is Jure Divino there is no question . Now Master Speaker , that the Convocation which is questioned whether Iure Divino , and Parliaments which out of question are not Iure Divino , should meddle with Religion , which questionlesse is Iure Divino , I leave to you Master Speaker . Master Grimstons Reply . But Arch-Bishops are no Bishops . Master Seldens Answer . That 's no otherwise true then that the Iudges are not Lawyers , and Aldermen are not Citizens . Severall Orders concerning Church Government . 1. Every severall Shiere of England and Wales to be a severall Circute or Diocesse for the Ecclesiastick Iurisdiction excepting Yorkshiere , which is to be divided into three . 2. A constant Presbitry of twelve choyce Divines , to bee selected in every Shiere or Diocesse . 3. A constant President to bee established as a Bishop over this Presbitry . 4. This Bishop in each Diocesse to ordaine , suspend , deprive , degrade , and excommunicate by and with the consent and assistance of seaven Divines of his Presbitry , then present and not else . 5. The times of Ordination throughout the Land to be foure times in the yeare , viz. 1. May 1. August 1. November , 1. February . 6. Every Bishop constantly to reside within his Diocesse , in some one prime or chiefe City or Towne within his Diocesse as in Particular . 7. Every Bishop to have one speciall particular Congregation to be chosen , out of the most convenient place for distance from his chief residence , and the richest in valew that may be had , whe●e he shall duely Preach , unlesse he be lawfully hindred , and then shall take care his Cure be well supplyed by an other . 8. No Bishop shall romove , or bee translated from the Bishopricke which hee shall first undertake . 9. Vpon every death , or other avoydance of a Bishop , the King to grant a Conge De Cleire to the whole Clergy of the whole Diocesse , and they to present three of the Presbitry aforesaid , and the King to choose and nominate whom he pleaseth of them . 10. The first Presbiters of every Shiere to be named by the Parliament , and afterwards upon the death or other avoydance of any Presbiter , the remaining Presbiters to choose one other out of the parish Ministers of that Shiere , and this to bee done within one moneth next after such death or avoydance . 11. No Bishop or Clergy man to exercise or have any temporall Office , or Seculer imployment but onely for the present to hold and keepe the probate of Wills , untill the Parliament shall otherwise resolve . 12. The Bishop once a yeare ( at Midsomer ) to summon a Diocesan Synod , there to heare , and ( by generall Vote ) to determine all such matters of scandall in life , and Doctrines amongst Clergy men , as shall be presented unto them . 13. Every three yeares a Nationall Synod to bee , which ( for persons ) shall consist of all the Bishops in the Land , and of two Presbiters to bee chosen by the rest out of each Presbitry , and of two Clerkes to be chosen out of every Diocesse by the Clergy thereof . 14. This Nationall Synod to make and ordaine Cannons , for the goverment of the Church , but they not to bind untill they bee confirmed by Parliament . 15. Every Bishop to have over and above the Benefice aforesaid , a certaine constant Rent allowed , and allotted proportionall to the Diocesse wherein hee is to Officiate . That is to say — 16. Every Presbiter to have a constant yearely profit above his Benefice . As for the Revenew of the Bishops , Deanes , and Chapters , &c. a strict survey to be taken of all their Rents and profits , and the same to bee represented at the beginning of our next convencion , and in the meane time no Lease to be renewed , nor Timber to bee felled . FINIS .