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             The propositions of their excellencies the ambassadovrs of the high and mighty states generall of the united provinces in the Netherlands delivered by them, by word of mouth, in both Houses of the Parliament of England, the 22/12 of July, 1644 / translation in English, delivered to both Houses was subscribed W. Borell, Iohn Reede de Renswoude, Alb. Ioachimi.
             United Provinces of the Netherlands. Staten Generaal.
             Joachimi, Albert, 1560-1654.
             Reede van Renswoude, Johan, baron van, 1593-1682.
             Boreel, Willem, baron van Vreendijke, 1591-1668.
          
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           THE
           PROPOSITIONS
           Of
           their
           Excellencies
           THE
           AMBASSADOVRS
           OF
           The
           High
           and
           Mighty
           States
           Generall
           of
           the
           united
           
             Provinces
             ,
          
           in
           the
           NETHERLANDS
           .
        
         
           Delivered
           by
           them
           ,
           by
           word
           of
           mouth
           ,
           in
           both
           Houses
           of
           the
           
             Parliament
          
           of
           
             England
             ,
          
           the
           22
           /
           12.
           of
           
             July
             ,
          
           1644
        
         
           The
           Translation
           in
           
             English
             ,
          
           delivered
           to
           both
           Houses
           ,
           was
           subscribed
           .
        
         
           
             W.
             Borell
             .
             Iohn
             Reede
             de
             Renswoude
             .
             Alb.
             Ioachimi
             .
          
        
         
           
             LONDON
             ,
          
           Printed
           by
           
             T.
             Badger
             ,
          
           1644.
           
        
      
    
     
       
       
       
         
           RIGHT
           HONOVRABLE
           LORDS
           ,
           AND
           COMMONS
           .
        
         
           FRom
           the
           very
           beginning
           of
           the
           restauration
           of
           the
           Liberty
           of
           the
           
             Republique
          
           of
           the
           Vnited
           
             Provinces
          
           of
           the
           
             Netherlands
             ,
          
           The
           High
           and
           Mighty
           Lords
           ,
           our
           Lords
           ,
           the
           
             States
          
           Generall
           ,
           their
           chiefest
           wishes
           and
           desires
           have
           ever
           beene
           to
           see
           ,
           that
           the
           Kings
           of
           great
           
             Brittaine
             ,
          
           and
           these
           Kingdomes
           might
           be
           perpetually
           maintained
           ,
           
           and
           preserved
           in
           a
           good
           concord
           ,
           Peace
           and
           Vnion
           ,
           by
           which
           nothing
           could
           befall
           them
           but
           all
           safety
           ,
           and
           advantage
           ,
           and
           that
           for
           three
           principall
           reasons
           .
        
         
           First
           ,
           that
           these
           Kingdomes
           ,
           being
           the
           greatest
           &
           the
           strongest
           Body
           ,
           which
           having
           received
           and
           maintained
           the
           Profession
           of
           the
           true
           Christian
           Protestant
           Religion
           ,
           and
           concerving
           it selfe
           so
           well
           ,
           it
           might
           also
           contribute
           much
           ,
           yea
           by
           Fame
           and
           reputation
           it selfe
           ,
           to
           the
           conservation
           of
           States
           ,
           Confederates
           and
           Friends
           ,
           and
           of
           all
           the
           other
           Protestant
           Churches
           ,
           established
           and
           spread
           through
           whole
           
             Europe
             .
          
        
         
           Secondly
           ,
           that
           these
           Kingdomes
           ,
           by
           their
           situation
           ,
           commodities
           ,
           traffique
           ,
           and
           Navigation
           ,
           and
           their
           
             Republique
             ,
          
           being
           so
           nearely
           combined
           by
           their
           common
           Interest
           of
           State
           ,
           and
           Religion
           ,
           our
           Lords
           might
           rest
           assured
           ,
           that
           the
           Interest
           of
           the
           King
           ,
           and
           these
           Kingdomes
           ,
           being
           so
           mightily
           advanced
           ,
           and
           conserved
           by
           the
           same
           meanes
           ,
           those
           of
           the
           
             Netherlands
          
           
           could
           not
           be
           but
           well
           conserved
           .
        
         
           And
           thirdly
           ,
           that
           this
           intestiue
           Peace
           ,
           Vnion
           and
           Concord
           ,
           (
           which
           Prosperity
           and
           Weale
           ordinarily
           accompanieth
           )
           continuing
           here
           ,
           that
           not
           onely
           the
           Kings
           and
           Kingdomes
           should
           be
           able
           to
           maintaine
           ,
           and
           preserve
           themselves
           ;
           but
           that
           the
           
             States
          
           Confederate
           ,
           and
           Friends
           ,
           or
           the
           good
           Cause
           of
           the
           Protestant
           Religion
           ,
           in
           other
           parts
           unjustly
           suffering
           ;
           (
           as
           formerly
           it
           hath
           beene
           ,
           and
           yet
           this
           day
           is
           too
           much
           perceived
           )
           they
           might
           ever
           find
           their
           refuge
           &
           azile
           ,
           their
           Succours
           &
           their
           ayd
           against
           all
           those
           ,
           who
           on
           the
           contrary
           part
           of
           other
           States
           and
           Churches
           ,
           should
           undertake
           to
           undermine
           the
           true
           Foundation
           of
           the
           happinesse
           of
           these
           flourishing
           Kingdomes
           .
        
         
           For
           your
           situation
           being
           well
           considered
           ,
           you
           are
           in
           your selves
           as
           a
           World
           a
           part
           ,
           separated
           from
           many
           inconveniences
           of
           the
           other
           .
        
         
           You
           have
           your
           Commodities
           at
           home
           ,
           not
           onely
           which
           are
           necessary
           ,
           and
           for
           
           your
           pleasure
           and
           delight
           ,
           but
           also
           in
           such
           plenty
           that
           you
           are
           able
           to
           communicate
           them
           to
           other
           Nations
           your
           Neighbours
           .
        
         
           The
           
             Sea
          
           doth
           serve
           you
           for
           a
           ditch
           and
           Bulwarke
           ,
           and
           your
           Power
           by
           Sea
           is
           able
           to
           maintaine
           you
           in
           your
           filicity
           ,
           and
           to
           exempt
           and
           free
           you
           from
           all
           forraigne
           injuries
           .
        
         
           So
           that
           the
           good
           of
           your
           owne
           conservation
           ,
           and
           the
           cause
           of
           your
           evill
           and
           ruine
           ,
           could
           not
           be
           suscitated
           ,
           nor
           found
           elsewhere
           but
           at
           home
           ,
           and
           within
           your selves
           .
        
         
           And
           certainely
           the
           Kings
           and
           Queenes
           formerly
           have
           done
           notable
           asistances
           for
           the
           maintenance
           and
           conservation
           of
           the
           true
           Religion
           ,
           and
           of
           many
           States
           which
           had
           need
           thereof
           ,
           amongst
           which
           Our
           LORDS
           doe
           professe
           themselves
           as
           much
           obliged
           and
           bound
           ,
           as
           any
           other
           .
        
         
           And
           the
           King
           and
           these
           Kingdomes
           shall
           yet
           in
           time
           be
           able
           to
           doe
           the
           like
           assistance
           ,
           as
           well
           for
           the
           present
           ,
           (
           now
           there
           is
           so
           great
           a
           necessity
           )
           as
           for
           the
           future
           ,
           
           provided
           you
           conserve
           your selves
           in
           that
           Concord
           and
           Vnion
           ,
           which
           heretofore
           hath
           made
           ,
           and
           shall
           ever
           make
           you
           mighty
           and
           redoubted
           .
        
         
           From
           hence
           it
           is
           ,
           that
           the
           common
           Enemies
           of
           the
           Peace
           of
           Christendome
           ,
           and
           their
           Agents
           ,
           who
           (
           long
           since
           )
           have
           framed
           and
           forged
           the
           Designe
           of
           an
           universall
           Monarchy
           of
           whole
           
             Europe
             ,
          
           yea
           of
           the
           whole
           World
           ,
           seeing
           and
           perceiving
           with
           an
           envious
           and
           malicious
           eye
           your
           former
           happinesse
           ,
           your
           flourishing
           State
           ,
           and
           your
           power
           ,
           and
           that
           there
           was
           nothing
           so
           contrary
           and
           dreadfull
           to
           their
           vast
           conceptions
           ,
           as
           your
           oppositions
           .
        
         
           To
           hurt
           and
           weaken
           ,
           yea
           to
           ruine
           you
           ,
           if
           they
           had
           beene
           able
           ,
           they
           have
           heretofore
           used
           all
           violence
           ,
           and
           the
           strength
           of
           great
           Fleets
           and
           Armies
           ,
           but
           in
           vaine
           and
           without
           successe
           .
        
         
           They
           have
           at
           last
           not
           beene
           able
           to
           act
           a
           better
           play
           ,
           then
           that
           which
           is
           most
           familiar
           to
           them
           ,
           and
           which
           often
           hath
           
           helpt
           them
           ,
           to
           the
           ruine
           of
           many
           great
           States
           ,
           which
           have
           not
           bin
           so
           circumspect
           and
           prudent
           as
           you
           are
           :
        
         
           
             Right
             Honourable
             ,
          
        
         
           It
           is
           so
           ,
           that
           quitting
           violence
           in
           a
           profound
           peace
           ,
           which
           they
           have
           with
           you
           ,
           and
           during
           the
           time
           of
           the
           same
           ,
           they
           have
           sowne
           amongst
           you
           the
           seedes
           and
           weedes
           of
           Discord
           and
           dissention
           ,
           as
           well
           in
           politique
           as
           Church
           businesses
           ,
           and
           shall
           ever
           foment
           them
           :
           whence
           they
           could
           assure
           themselves
           of
           a
           certaine
           profit
           ,
           what
           end
           soever
           the
           said
           dissentions
           might
           take
           .
        
         
           And
           by
           these
           means
           and
           their
           accustomed
           craft
           ,
           they
           have
           proposed
           to
           obtain
           by
           intestine
           troubles
           ,
           you
           should
           weaken
           your selves
           ,
           and
           making
           you
           lesse
           mighty
           ,
           and
           lesse
           dreadfull
           ,
           and
           no
           wayes
           considerable
           ,
           you
           might
           serve
           at
           last
           ,
           (
           which
           God
           avert
           )
           to
           the
           inglutting
           of
           their
           insatiable
           ambition
           ,
           to
           the
           destruction
           of
           the
           true
           Religion
           ,
           and
           of
           all
           that
           which
           may
           be
           
           deare
           and
           recommendable
           to
           you
           .
        
         
           As
           VVe
           see
           already
           brought
           to
           passe
           in
           Ireland
           where
           the
           cruelties
           ,
           murthers
           ,
           horrible
           and
           unheard
           of
           slaughters
           have
           been
           perpetrated
           ,
           with
           effusion
           of
           so
           much
           innocent
           bloud
           ,
           to
           the
           totall
           destruction
           of
           the
           true
           Protestant
           religion
           there
           ,
           and
           to
           the
           great
           danger
           of
           the
           State
           it selfe
           .
        
         
           Our
           Lords
           seeing
           these
           mis-understandings
           ,
           troubles
           ,
           and
           miseries
           here
           already
           growne
           to
           so
           great
           an
           extreamity
           :
           and
           being
           so
           highly
           interessed
           in
           your
           well
           being
           ,
           have
           esteemed
           fit
           and
           timely
           to
           send
           Vs
           their
           Ambassadors
           to
           this
           Kingdome
           ,
           to
           offer
           to
           the
           King
           and
           to
           his
           Parliament
           Our
           Service
           and
           mediation
           .
        
         
           To
           help
           (
           if
           acceptale
           )
           to
           remove
           and
           take
           away
           the
           jealousies
           which
           are
           and
           might
           be
           ,
           and
           to
           compose
           the
           dissentions
           by
           the
           milde
           wayes
           for
           an
           amiable
           Conference
           .
        
         
           And
           our
           said
           Lords
           declare
           ,
           that
           they
           
           have
           not
           been
           moved
           hereunto
           by
           any
           presumption
           ,
           or
           to
           intrude
           themselves
           in
           the
           busines
           of
           a
           great
           King
           ,
           and
           of
           these
           mighty
           Kingdomes
           :
           But
           onely
           to
           acquit
           themselves
           of
           the
           Office
           and
           Duty
           of
           a
           good
           friend
           ,
           and
           also
           to
           acknowledge
           in
           this
           occasion
           the
           grat
           obligation
           which
           the
           King
           ,
           and
           these
           Kingdomes
           have
           upon
           our
           Republique
           .
        
         
           Our
           Lords
           further
           doe
           perswade
           themselves
           that
           no
           other
           State
           in
           the
           world
           ,
           but
           theirs
           shall
           be
           found
           more
           fit
           and
           acceptable
           ,
           (
           in
           then
           opinion
           )
           to
           interpose
           it selfe
           in
           the
           meditation
           of
           an
           accommodation
           ,
           and
           re-union
           between
           his
           Majesty
           and
           his
           Parliament
           ,
           and
           to
           whose
           interposition
           more
           credit
           might
           bee
           given
           without
           all
           susption
           :
           For
           the
           honour
           ,
           greatnesse
           and
           prosperity
           of
           the
           King
           and
           these
           Kingdomes
           ,
           is
           by
           reflection
           the
           same
           for
           our
           Republique
           ;
           and
           on
           the
           contrary
           your
           evill
           is
           to
           Vs
           a
           very
           great
           affliction
           ,
           and
           a
           most
           sensible
           evill
           .
        
         
           From
           thence
           may
           be
           taken
           this
           firm
           assurance
           ,
           
           that
           the
           ayme
           of
           our
           mediation
           shall
           not
           be
           to
           recommend
           an
           accommodation
           ,
           and
           reconciliation
           feigned
           and
           painted
           without
           ,
           not
           prejudiciall
           ,
           and
           not
           assured
           within
           .
           But
           to
           procure
           a
           true
           re-union
           ,
           sincere
           and
           perfect
           ,
           founded
           upon
           the
           Basis
           of
           the
           true
           Religion
           and
           Iustice
           ,
           which
           shall
           re-establish
           respectively
           the
           good
           correspondence
           ,
           confidence
           ,
           love
           ,
           and
           the
           respects
           between
           the
           King
           and
           his
           Parliament
           ,
           and
           between
           all
           the
           good
           subjects
           of
           these
           great
           Kingdomes
           .
        
         
           The
           King
           hath
           so
           much
           approved
           of
           the
           reasons
           and
           proffers
           of
           our
           said
           Lords
           ,
           that
           his
           Majesty
           hath
           accepted
           on
           his
           part
           Our
           Interposition
           ,
           and
           hath
           consented
           to
           a
           Conference
           between
           Commissioners
           to
           be
           sent
           from
           both
           parties
           ,
           (
           if
           you
           find
           it
           good
           )
           and
           that
           you
           shall
           chuse
           the
           place
           ,
           the
           time
           ,
           and
           the
           number
           of
           the
           persons
           who
           shall
           be
           imployed
           in
           this
           action
           .
        
         
           
             Right
             Honourable
             ,
          
        
         
           Now
           Wee
           come
           unto
           you
           by
           command
           
           of
           Our
           Superiours
           to
           make
           the
           same
           proffer
           of
           mediation
           ,
           and
           to
           understand
           whether
           also
           it
           may
           bee
           agreeable
           and
           acceptable
           unto
           you
           .
        
         
           VVe
           have
           alwayes
           observed
           that
           your
           good
           inclinations
           have
           been
           carryed
           to
           peace
           ,
           if
           you
           receive
           satisfaction
           to
           your
           just
           and
           reasonable
           demands
           .
        
         
           Your
           wisedomes
           also
           may
           well
           judge
           ,
           that
           the
           wayes
           of
           Armes
           are
           no
           alwayes
           the
           surest
           ,
           their
           successes
           being
           very
           uncertaine
           ,
           and
           which
           changeth
           face
           in
           a
           moment
           .
        
         
           The
           good
           Cause
           which
           is
           proposed
           ,
           doth
           not
           alwayes
           promise
           an
           assured
           and
           certain
           successe
           ,
           for
           we
           are
           all
           men
           ,
           and
           God
           sometimes
           permits
           the
           good
           Cause
           to
           suffer
           for
           our
           sins
           .
        
         
           All
           warre
           is
           an
           affliction
           and
           punishment
           of
           God
           ,
           in
           which
           we
           are
           not
           to
           take
           del●ght
           ,
           when
           we
           can
           be
           freed
           of
           it
           ,
           upon
           honest
           and
           sure
           termes
           and
           conditions
           ,
           that
           the
           wrath
           of
           God
           be
           not
           longer
           provoked
           against
           us
           .
        
         
         
           It
           is
           to
           be
           considered
           also
           ,
           if
           no
           reasonable
           accommodation
           be
           found
           that
           the
           decision
           of
           your
           differences
           by
           Armes
           is
           not
           to
           be
           expected
           so
           soon
           ;
           but
           rather
           on
           the
           contrary
           ,
           that
           it
           shall
           bee
           the
           cause
           of
           perpetuating
           the
           warres
           in
           these
           Kingdomes
           ,
           because
           the
           King
           shall
           ever
           live
           in
           his
           Royall
           Posterity
           ,
           and
           the
           Parliament
           never
           dyes
           to
           suscitate
           always
           the
           former
           evill
           successes
           by
           new
           warres
           ,
           which
           at
           length
           shall
           cause
           the
           totall
           ruine
           and
           destruction
           of
           State
           and
           Religion
           ,
           onely
           to
           the
           great
           advantage
           of
           the
           common
           enemy
           of
           our
           Faith
           .
        
         
           
             Right
             Honourable
             ,
          
        
         
           If
           it
           please
           you
           to
           make
           use
           of
           our
           intercession
           ,
           unto
           which
           the
           King
           consented
           at
           our
           first
           Proposition
           and
           offer
           ,
           VVe
           promise
           you
           to
           proceed
           and
           labour
           in
           it
           with
           all
           sincerity
           and
           fidelity
           ,
           as
           Ambassadors
           sent
           by
           your
           best
           friends
           and
           allies
           ,
           making
           profession
           of
           one
           and
           the
           same
           Religion
           .
        
         
         
           And
           we
           shall
           spare
           no
           endeavour
           ,
           travaile
           ,
           nor
           paine
           (
           by
           the
           good
           will
           which
           his
           Majesty
           hath
           declared
           to
           us
           ,
           and
           by
           your
           good
           intention
           )
           to
           make
           the
           affections
           of
           our
           Lords
           succeed
           to
           such
           perfection
           ,
           that
           the
           King
           and
           his
           Parliament
           ,
           and
           all
           good
           and
           loyall
           Subjects
           of
           the
           King
           ,
           and
           lovers
           of
           their
           Country
           ,
           shall
           finde
           their
           desired
           contentment
           and
           tranquility
           with
           all
           assurance
           .
        
         
           
             Right
             Honourable
             ,
          
        
         
           We
           must
           yet
           adde
           these
           few
           words
           ,
           that
           your
           troubles
           and
           warres
           ,
           trouble
           and
           indanger
           us
           also
           :
           for
           many
           Merchants
           and
           Masters
           of
           Ships
           dayly
           present
           themselves
           to
           Our
           Lords
           the
           States
           Genenerall
           ,
           and
           to
           us
           here
           ,
           with
           their
           complaints
           ,
           that
           your
           men
           and
           ships
           of
           war
           trouble
           their
           course
           of
           trading
           and
           traffique
           ,
           and
           take
           their
           ships
           and
           goods
           without
           any
           just
           cause
           ,
           and
           without
           reason
           ,
           and
           any
           right
           at
           all
           ,
           as
           may
           be
           seen
           by
           a
           
             Memorandum
          
           hereunto
           anneed
           ,
           
           which
           you
           are
           desired
           to
           take
           notice
           of
           ,
           and
           to
           give
           order
           for
           restitution
           and
           reparation
           of
           the
           dammages
           sustained
           for
           the
           present
           ,
           and
           to
           take
           such
           course
           that
           in
           the
           future
           the
           like
           excesses
           may
           be
           prevented
           .
        
         
           And
           if
           any
           doubts
           be
           found
           in
           the
           said
           
             Memorandum
             ,
          
           that
           it
           may
           please
           you
           to
           appoynt
           us
           some
           Commissioners
           to
           settle
           the
           poynts
           of
           which
           wee
           are
           complaining
           ,
           as
           shall
           be
           found
           to
           agree
           with
           reason
           .
        
         
           FINIS
           .