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             A late dialogue betwixt a civilian and a divine concerning the present condition of the Church of England in which, among other particulars, these following are especially spoken of ...
             Gillespie, George, 1613-1648.
          
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             Printed for Robert Bostock ...,
             London :
             1644.
          
           
             Particulars spoken of: "1 The sinne and danger of delaying reformation. 2 That there is a certain form of church-government jure divino. 3 That there was an ecclesiasticall excommunication among the Jewes. 4 That excommunication is an ordinance in the New Testament. 5 Concerning the toleration of all sects and heresies. 6 Some answer to a late book come from Oxford."
             The "late book come from Oxford" is John Maxwell's An answer by letter to a worthy gentleman.
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           Maxwell, John, 1590?-1647. -- An answer by letter to a worthy gentleman.
           Reformation -- England -- History -- 17th century.
           Excommunication.
        
      
    
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           A
           LATE
           DIALOGUE
           BETWIXT
           A
           
             CIVILIAN
          
           and
           a
           
             Divine
             ,
          
           concerning
           the
           present
           condition
           of
           the
           Church
           of
           ENGLAND
           .
           In
           which
           ,
           among
           other
           particulars
           ,
           these
           following
           are
           especially
           spoken
           of
           .
        
         
           
             1
             The
             sinne
             and
             danger
             of
             delaying
             Reformation
             .
          
           
             2
             That
             there
             is
             a
             certain
             form
             of
             Church-Government
             
               Jure
               Divino
               .
            
          
           
             3
             That
             there
             was
             an
             Ecclesiasticall
             Excommunication
             among
             the
             Jews
             .
          
           
             4
             That
             Excommunication
             is
             an
             Ordinance
             in
             the
             New
             Testament
             .
          
           
             5
             Concerning
             the
             Toleration
             of
             all
             Sects
             and
             Heresies
             .
          
           
             6
             Some
             Answer
             to
             a
             late
             Book
             come
             from
             Oxford
             .
          
        
         
           
             1
             Thes.
             5.21
             .
          
           
             Prove
             all
             things
             :
             hold
             fast
             that
             which
             is
             good
             .
          
        
         
           Published
           by
           Authority
           .
        
         
           LONDON
           :
           Printed
           for
           
             Robert
             Bostock
             ,
          
           dwelling
           in
           Pauls
           Church-yard
           at
           the
           Signe
           of
           the
           Kings
           Head
           .
           1644.
           
        
      
    
     
       
       
       
         
           A
           LATE
           DIALOGVE
           Betwixt
           a
           
             Civilian
             ,
          
           and
           a
           
             Divine
             ,
          
           concerning
           the
           present
           condition
           of
           the
           CHURCH
           of
           ENGLAND
           ,
           &c.
           
        
         
           
             Divine
             .
          
           
             GOOD
             Morrow
             to
             you
             good
             Sir
             .
          
        
         
           
             Civilian
             .
          
           
             I
             am
             glad
             to
             see
             you
             Sir
             ,
             will
             you
             take
             a
             walk
             with
             me
             this
             morning
             ,
             and
             tell
             me
             what
             good
             newes
             yee
             have
             heard
             ,
             for
             I
             have
             not
             yet
             been
             in
             
               Westminster
            
             Hall
             ,
             the
             place
             most
             infected
             with
             the
             
               Athenian
            
             disease
             .
          
        
         
           
             Divine
             .
          
           
             I
             can
             tell
             you
             no
             newes
             at
             this
             time
             .
          
        
         
           
             Civilian
             .
          
           
             You
             look
             as
             you
             were
             not
             well
             pleased
             to
             day
             ,
             pray
             you
             tell
             me
             ,
             have
             you
             heard
             any
             bad
             newes
             from
             the
             North
             or
             from
             the
             West
             .
          
        
         
           
             Divine
             .
          
           
             None
             truly
             ,
             but
             this
             I
             confesse
             ,
             that
             though
             I
             cannot
             but
             allow
             those
             who
             from
             their
             affection
             to
             the
             Cause
             ,
             are
             inquisitive
             of
             newes
             from
             severall
             quarters
             ,
             and
             labour
             to
             make
             some
             good
             use
             of
             what
             they
             heare
             ;
             yet
             for
             mine
             own
             part
             ,
             one
             thing
             sticks
             with
             me
             ,
             which
             suffereth
             me
             not
             either
             to
             be
             so
             curious
             in
             seeking
             ,
             or
             so
             
             joviall
             in
             hearing
             newes
             ,
             as
             many
             others
             are
             .
             The
             truth
             is
             ,
             I
             am
             more
             afraid
             and
             apprehensive
             of
             our
             owne
             ,
             then
             of
             our
             enemies
             victories
             .
          
        
         
           
             Civilian
             .
          
           
             This
             is
             a
             most
             strange
             paradox
             ,
             what
             can
             you
             mean
             by
             it
             ?
             I
             hope
             you
             are
             not
             turned
             malignant
             .
          
        
         
           
             Divine
             .
          
           
             If
             it
             be
             
               Paradoxall
               ,
            
             yet
             I
             am
             sure
             it
             is
             
               Orthodoxall
               ,
            
             I
             remember
             judicious
             
               Calvin
            
             said
             the
             same
             of
             the
             
               German
            
             warres
             in
             his
             time
             .
             There
             is
             more
             danger
             ,
             said
             he
             ,
             like
             to
             come
             by
             our
             owne
             then
             by
             our
             enemies
             victory
             .
             I
             desire
             his
             words
             may
             bee
             well
             observed
             ,
             and
             applyed
             .
             I
             dare
             say
             ,
             God
             is
             more
             gracious
             to
             us
             in
             continuing
             this
             war
             of
             ours
             ,
             then
             if
             he
             should
             answer
             our
             desires
             in
             putting
             an
             end
             to
             it
             presently
             .
             When
             God
             blesseth
             our
             forces
             with
             any
             great
             successe
             ,
             nay
             when
             hee
             doth
             but
             draw
             back
             his
             afflicting
             hand
             a
             little
             ,
             and
             giveth
             us
             some
             lightning
             of
             our
             eyes
             ,
             O
             how
             doe
             we
             by
             and
             by
             forget
             God
             ,
             and
             slight
             both
             Hu●iliation
             and
             Reformation
             .
             
               *
            
             Then
             
               Iesurum
               forsook
               God
               which
               made
               him
               ,
               and
               lightly
               esteemed
               the
               rock
               of
               his
               ●alvation
               .
            
             
               *
            
             But
             ,
             
               when
               he
               slew
               them
               ,
               then
               they
               sought
               him
               ,
               and
               returned
               and
               inquired
               after
               God
               early
               .
            
             There
             were
             never
             serious
             and
             deep
             thoughts
             ,
             either
             in
             the
             Parliament
             ,
             or
             in
             the
             Kingdome
             ,
             of
             fasting
             and
             praying
             ,
             of
             covenanting
             with
             God
             ,
             of
             purging
             our
             hearts
             ,
             our
             lives
             ,
             our
             families
             ,
             of
             reforming
             the
             Church
             ,
             according
             to
             the
             word
             ,
             of
             building
             the
             Temple
             according
             to
             the
             patterne
             ,
             of
             caring
             for
             the
             things
             of
             Jesus
             Christ
             more
             then
             for
             their
             own
             things
             ;
             never
             but
             when
             we
             felt
             Gods
             hand
             smart
             and
             heavy
             upon
             us
             .
             And
             if
             now
             
             the
             sword
             of
             the
             Lord
             should
             be
             still
             ,
             and
             
               England
            
             a
             quiet
             habitation
             ,
             every
             man
             sitting
             
               under
               his
               own
               vine
               ,
               and
               under
               his
               owne
               figtree
            
             :
             I
             verily
             believe
             our
             great
             State-Physitians
             should
             heale
             the
             wound
             of
             the
             daughter
             of
             
               Sion
            
             slightly
             ,
             and
             daube
             the
             wall
             with
             untempered
             morter
             ,
             and
             the
             Church
             of
             God
             in
             this
             Kingdome
             should
             have
             dry
             breasts
             ,
             and
             a
             miscarrying
             wombe
             ,
             instead
             of
             bringing
             forth
             the
             manchild
             of
             Reformation
             ,
             now
             sticking
             in
             the
             birth
             ,
             but
             having
             no
             strength
             to
             come
             forth
             ,
             till
             some
             new
             pains
             and
             pangs
             quicken
             and
             carry
             through
             the
             work
             .
          
        
         
           
             Civilian
             .
          
           
             I
             must
             confesse
             the
             Reformation
             of
             our selves
             and
             our
             families
             hath
             been
             ,
             
             and
             is
             still
             ,
             too
             much
             neglected
             .
             But
             for
             Nationall
             and
             Church-Reformation
             ,
             I
             doe
             not
             know
             what
             can
             be
             more
             done
             then
             is
             done
             ,
             considering
             our
             intestine
             divisions
             among
             our selves
             ,
             which
             as
             Mr.
             
               Fox
            
             observeth
             was
             the
             undoing
             of
             the
             Church
             and
             of
             Religion
             in
             King
             
               Edwards
            
             dayes
             ,
             and
             is
             like
             to
             prove
             the
             bane
             of
             Religion
             and
             Reformation
             in
             our
             dayes
             .
             
               Ita
               dum
               singuli
               pugnant
               universi
               vincuntur
               :
            
             
             as
             
               Tacitus
            
             speaketh
             of
             the
             ancient
             Brittish
             .
          
        
         
           
             Divine
             .
          
           
             Sir
             ,
             I
             desire
             that
             first
             of
             all
             this
             may
             be
             laid
             downe
             as
             a
             sure
             Principle
             ,
             that
             the
             purity
             and
             liberty
             of
             the
             Gospel
             ,
             and
             of
             the
             Ordinances
             of
             Jesus
             Christ
             ,
             is
             to
             bee
             more
             esteemed
             of
             ,
             and
             sought
             after
             then
             all
             or
             any
             thing
             in
             this
             world
             .
             That
             it
             is
             said
             as
             well
             to
             States
             and
             Parliaments
             ,
             as
             to
             particular
             persons
             :
             
             
               Seek
               yee
               first
               the
               Kingdome
               of
               God
               and
               the
               righteousnesse
               thereof
               ,
               and
               all
               these
               things
               shall
               be
               added
               unto
               you
               .
            
             The
             setling
             of
             Religion
             is
             to
             be
             looked
             upon
             ,
             as
             
               causall
               ,
            
             not
             as
             
               consequent
            
             to
             the
             peace
             and
             prosperity
             of
             the
             Kingdom
             .
             
             Doe
             but
             prove
             the
             Lord
             
             now
             herewith
             ,
             
             and
             see
             if
             he
             will
             not
             
               appoint
               salvation
               for
               walls
               and
               b●●●marks
               ,
            
             if
             he
             will
             not
             
               honour
               those
               that
               honour
               him
               ,
            
             if
             he
             will
             not
             be
             zealous
             for
             those
             that
             are
             zealous
             for
             him
             .
             The
             
               Trojans
            
             believed
             that
             
               Troy
            
             could
             not
             be
             taken
             except
             their
             idoll
             
               Palladium
            
             were
             taken
             away
             from
             them
             which
             being
             once
             taken
             away
             by
             
               Vlysses
            
             and
             
               Diomedes
               ,
            
             
             they
             observed
             that
             shortly
             thereafter
             their
             Town
             was
             destroyed
             .
             
               Arno●ius
            
             tells
             us
             that
             when
             the
             I●age
             of
             
               Iupiter
            
             was
             throwne
             down
             in
             the
             
               Capitoll
               ,
            
             
             and
             was
             lying
             upon
             the
             ground
             ,
             the
             heathenish
             So●th-savers
             did
             foretell
             sad
             and
             heavy
             things
             which
             should
             never
             be
             removed
             till
             
               Iupiter
            
             were
             set
             in
             his
             owne
             place
             ;
             whic●
             i●
             it
             were
             no
             done
             ,
             that
             they
             did
             in
             vain
             hope
             for
             the
             preservation
             of
             the
             lawes
             ,
             or
             the
             healing
             of
             their
             homebred
             divisions
             .
             Shall
             those
             Pagans
             rise
             up
             in
             judgement
             against
             us
             Christians
             ,
             who
             doe
             so
             overly
             and
             slightly
             goe
             about
             the
             building
             of
             the
             house
             of
             God
             ,
             and
             the
             erecting
             of
             the
             throne
             of
             Jesus
             Christ
             ;
             who
             care
             for
             something
             else
             more
             then
             for
             his
             Church
             and
             Kingdome
             ,
             his
             glory
             and
             his
             ordinances
             ,
             who
             seek
             our
             owne
             things
             ,
             not
             the
             things
             which
             are
             Jesus
             Christs
             .
          
        
         
           
             Civilian
             .
          
           
             No
             man
             can
             say
             against
             this
             ,
             that
             true
             Religion
             is
             the
             
               Alpha
            
             and
             
               Omega
            
             of
             a
             Kingdomes
             happinesse
             ,
             and
             that
             it
             is
             their
             surest
             foundation
             and
             strongest
             bullwark
             of
             Peace
             ,
             Liberties
             ,
             and
             Lawes
             .
             And
             I
             trust
             the
             Parliament
             will
             ever
             be
             most
             tender
             and
             carefull
             of
             it
             ,
             and
             put
             it
             in
             its
             own
             place
             as
             they
             have
             frequently
             professed
             in
             their
             Declarations
             ,
             and
             really
             manifested
             in
             calling
             and
             keeping
             together
             an
             Assembly
             of
             learned
             and
             pious
             Div●nes
             ,
             the
             results
             of
             whose
             debates
             and
             consultations
             t●ey
             will
             take
             to
             their
             consideration
             in
             due
             time
             ,
             for
             setling
             the
             government
             of
             the
             Church
             ,
             and
             the
             worship
             of
             God
             .
          
        
         
         
           
             Divine
             .
          
           
             If
             you
             would
             really
             and
             carefully
             indeavour
             ,
             to
             doe
             what
             you
             professe
             to
             intend
             ,
             I
             have
             no
             more
             to
             say
             ,
             but
             that
             the
             successe
             is
             to
             be
             committed
             to
             God
             ,
             you
             having
             done
             your
             duty
             .
             But
             assuredly
             the
             practises
             doe
             not
             answer
             to
             the
             professions
             ,
             nor
             the
             performances
             to
             the
             promises
             .
          
        
         
           
             Civilian
             .
          
           
             For
             that
             I
             must
             tell
             you
             a
             story
             which
             I
             remember
             that
             I
             have
             read
             ,
             in
             
               Diodorus
               Siculus
            
             of
             
               Pharnabazus
            
             who
             after
             many
             slow
             preparations
             ,
             did
             at
             last
             lead
             forth
             
               Artaxerxes
            
             his
             Army
             against
             the
             
               Egyptians
               .
            
             This
             man
             being
             asked
             by
             
               Iphi●rates
               ,
            
             why
             he
             was
             so
             nimble
             and
             ready
             in
             discourse
             ,
             and
             so
             slow
             in
             action
             ,
             why
             he
             did
             promise
             so
             much
             ,
             and
             performe
             so
             little
             :
             answered
             ,
             because
             hee
             was
             master
             of
             his
             words
             but
             King
             of
             his
             actions
             :
             meaning
             that
             actions
             were
             not
             so
             much
             in
             his
             power
             as
             words
             .
          
        
         
           
             Divine
             .
          
           
             All
             things
             are
             possible
             to
             him
             that
             believeth
             .
             Doe
             not
             say
             with
             the
             sluggard
             ,
             
               There
               is
               a
               Lyon
               in
               the
               way
               .
            
             If
             you
             would
             but
             doe
             your
             duty
             in
             going
             about
             the
             thing
             ,
             trust
             God
             with
             the
             event
             .
             Now
             assuredly
             it
             is
             your
             duty
             to
             carry
             on
             the
             cause
             of
             Religion
             in
             the
             first
             and
             principall
             place
             ,
             which
             that
             I
             may
             the
             more
             presse
             upon
             you
             ,
             I
             will
             adde
             unto
             that
             which
             hath
             been
             said
             ,
             the
             notable
             example
             of
             
               Solomon
               ,
            
             1.
             
             
               King.
            
             6.37
             ,
             38.
             
             &
             7.1
             .
             
               In
               the
               fourth
               year
               was
               the
               foundation
               of
               the
               house
               of
               the
               Lord
               laid
               ,
               in
               the
               moneth
               Zif
               ,
               and
               in
               the
               eleventh
               year
               in
               the
               moneth
               Bull
               (
               which
               is
               the
               eight
               month
               )
               was
               the
               house
               finished
               throughout
               all
               the
               parts
               thereof
               ,
               and
               according
               to
               all
               the
               fashion
               of
               it
               .
               So
               was
               ●e
               seaven
               yeares
               in
               building
               it
               .
               But
               Solomon
               was
               building
               his
               own
               house
               thirteen
               yeares
               .
            
             Neither
             did
             he
             begin
             to
             build
             his
             own
             house
             ,
             till
             those
             seven
             
             yeares
             were
             ended
             ,
             and
             the
             house
             of
             the
             Lord
             fully
             perfected
             ,
             as
             appeareth
             clearly
             by
             2.
             
               Chron.
            
             8.1
             .
             
               and
               it
               came
               to
               passe
               at
               the
               end
               of
               twenty
               yeares
               ,
               wherein
               Solomon
               had
               built
               the
               house
               of
               the
               Lord
               ,
               and
               his
               owne
               house
               .
            
             After
             all
             which
             (
             as
             followeth
             in
             that
             place
             )
             hee
             took
             care
             for
             store-Cities
             ,
             and
             fenced
             Cities
             ,
             for
             tribute
             ,
             and
             for
             his
             navy
             .
             
               Tostatus
            
             and
             other
             Interpreters
             observe
             ,
             that
             
               Solomon
            
             looked
             first
             to
             the
             Lords
             matters
             ,
             and
             afterwards
             to
             his
             owne
             matters
             .
             
             And
             
               Iosephus
            
             his
             observation
             is
             very
             much
             to
             be
             taken
             notice
             of
             .
             
               The
               building
               of
               the
               Temple
            
             (
             saith
             he
             )
             
               which
               did
               continue
               for
               seven
               yeares
               being
               finished
               ,
               he
               went
               about
               the
               building
               of
               the
               Palace
               ,
               which
               in
               the
               thirteenth
               yeare
               ,
               he
               did
               scarcely
               finish
               ,
               for
               hee
               did
               not
               take
               so
               much
               care
               of
               this
               work
               ,
               as
               of
               the
               building
               of
               the
               Temple
               ,
               which
               though
               both
               large
               and
               more
               glorious
               then
               can
               be
               beleeved
               ,
               was
               through
               Gods
               assistance
               perfected
               in
               the
               foresaid
               space
               :
               but
               the
               Palace
               though
               very
               farre
               inferiour
               to
               the
               magnificence
               of
               the
               Temple
               ,
               yet
               the
               materialls
               thereof
               not
               being
               so
               long
               before
               prepared
               ,
               and
               the
               house
               being
               to
               be
               builded
               for
               the
               King
               ,
               not
               for
               God
               ,
               it
               was
               the
               more
               slowly
               brought
               to
               perfection
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             Civilian
             .
          
           
             But
             I
             beseech
             you
             where
             is
             the
             fault
             with
             us
             ?
             and
             what
             could
             be
             more
             done
             then
             is
             done
             ?
          
        
         
           
             Divine
             .
          
           
             O
             but
             my
             heart
             bleeds
             to
             think
             how
             it
             goeth
             for
             the
             present
             ,
             and
             how
             it
             is
             like
             to
             goe
             for
             the
             future
             with
             this
             distracted
             unsetled
             Church
             ,
             what
             fruits
             have
             wee
             yet
             reaped
             of
             our
             many
             petitions
             and
             indeavours
             for
             reformation
             of
             Religion
             ,
             of
             our
             solemn
             Covenant
             ,
             of
             the
             learned
             debates
             and
             long
             consultations
             of
             the
             Assembly
             of
             Divines
             ,
             Meethinks
             that
             which
             was
             said
             of
             
               Ephraim
               ,
               Hos.
            
             13.13
             .
             agreeth
             too
             too
             much
             to
             
               England
               .
               The
               
               sorrows
               of
               a
               travelling
               woman
               shall
               come
               upon
               him
               ,
               he
               is
               an
               ●nwise
               Son
               ,
               for
               he
               should
               not
               stay
               long
               in
               the
               place
               of
               the
               breaking
               forth
               of
               children
               .
            
             I
             wish
             we
             may
             beware
             of
             that
             which
             some
             stories
             have
             observed
             to
             have
             been
             a
             most
             unhappy
             errour
             in
             the
             Emperour
             
               Frederick
            
             3.
             who
             did
             so
             far
             connive
             at
             all
             things
             ,
             that
             when
             he
             was
             put
             in
             mind
             to
             look
             to
             this
             or
             that
             ,
             to
             prevent
             this
             or
             that
             danger
             ,
             hee
             was
             wont
             to
             answer
             as
             
               Faelix
            
             did
             ,
             the
             time
             of
             amending
             those
             things
             was
             not
             yet
             come
             ,
             hee
             would
             wait
             for
             a
             more
             convenient
             season
             ;
             which
             season
             hee
             could
             never
             see
             ?
             I
             am
             perswaded
             it
             lyeth
             heavy
             upon
             the
             spirits
             of
             thousands
             beside
             my selfe
             ,
             to
             know
             that
             every
             man
             doth
             now
             in
             Religion
             what
             seems
             good
             in
             his
             own
             eyes
             ,
             Errors
             and
             Schismes
             doe
             multiply
             ,
             in
             most
             places
             of
             the
             Kingdome
             ;
             there
             is
             a
             darknesse
             instead
             of
             divination
             ,
             and
             people
             are
             like
             sheep
             that
             have
             no
             shepheard
             :
             and
             for
             ought
             I
             can
             see
             ,
             betwixt
             our
             forsaking
             of
             the
             old
             ,
             and
             finding
             of
             a
             new
             way
             ,
             wee
             are
             fallen
             in
             a
             wildernesse
             where
             there
             is
             no
             way
             ,
             O
             when
             shall
             I
             once
             see
             Religion
             setled
             ?
          
        
         
           
             Civilian
             .
          
           
             When
             the
             warre
             shall
             be
             husht
             ,
             the
             State
             ordered
             and
             composed
             ,
             the
             Peace
             of
             the
             Kingdome
             socured
             ;
             it
             is
             not
             to
             bee
             expected
             till
             then
             that
             the
             Parliament
             can
             have
             much
             leisure
             to
             look
             to
             Church
             matters
             :
             yet
             they
             will
             no
             doubt
             ,
             doe
             the
             best
             that
             may
             be
             for
             the
             interim
             .
             Marvell
             not
             if
             I
             say
             more
             ,
             that
             the
             Parliament
             doth
             wisely
             in
             moving
             so
             slowly
             .
             The
             slow
             and
             wary
             motions
             of
             
               Fabius
            
             did
             overcome
             
               Ha●●db●●
               ,
            
             whereas
             the
             heat
             and
             suddennesse
             of
             
               Minutius
            
             did
             indanger
             the
             Common-wealth
             .
             Suddain
             courses
             (
             I
             doubt
             )
             shall
             not
             so
             much
             glad
             us
             in
             the
             beginning
             ,
             as
             grieve
             us
             in
             the
             end
             .
          
        
         
           
             Divine
             .
          
           
             I
             have
             read
             in
             some
             Polititians
             ,
             that
             though
             that
             of
             
             
               Augustus
               .
               —
               Festina
               lente
               ,
            
             
             doe
             well
             agree
             to
             calme
             and
             peaceable
             times
             :
             yet
             
               Alexander
            
             his
             
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
            
             
               nihil
               cunctando
               ,
            
             is
             fitter
             for
             times
             of
             trouble
             and
             warre
             ,
             and
             so
             they
             reconcile
             the
             one
             with
             the
             other
             ▪
             
               Kekerm
               .
               discurs
               .
               de
               consilio
               quaest.
            
             7.
             
             It
             is
             not
             safe
             to
             dispute
             long
             ,
             in
             the
             time
             of
             a
             present
             combustion
             ,
             nor
             to
             consult
             long
             about
             the
             cure
             ,
             when
             the
             patient
             lyes
             a dying
             ;
             But
             I
             desire
             to
             argue
             from
             the
             principles
             of
             my
             owne
             profession
             :
             God
             did
             of
             old
             reprove
             his
             people
             ,
             because
             they
             said
             ,
             
               The
               time
               is
               not
               yet
               come
               ,
               the
               time
               that
               the
               Lords
               house
               should
               be
               builded
               .
            
             This
             they
             said
             at
             that
             time
             when
             
               Iudah
            
             and
             
               Benjamin
            
             had
             powerfull
             adversaries
             ,
             when
             the
             land
             was
             not
             secured
             ,
             nor
             the
             walls
             of
             
               Ierusalem
            
             built
             .
             They
             might
             have
             pleaded
             for
             themselves
             enough
             of
             this
             kind
             ,
             but
             all
             this
             could
             not
             excuse
             them
             at
             Gods
             hands
             :
             he
             would
             have
             them
             build
             the
             Temple
             before
             the
             walls
             of
             
               Ierusalem
               .
            
             And
             in
             this
             they
             harkened
             to
             the
             Prophets
             of
             God
             ,
             and
             did
             so
             .
             Thereafter
             God
             taketh
             themselves
             to
             witnesse
             ,
             whether
             he
             had
             not
             blessed
             them
             from
             that
             very
             day
             when
             they
             laid
             the
             foundation
             of
             the
             Temple
             :
             Nay
             
               I
            
             dare
             say
             it
             is
             not
             only
             good
             
               Divinity
               ,
            
             but
             good
             
               Policy
               ,
            
             that
             the
             Parliament
             should
             mind
             the
             things
             of
             Christ
             ,
             more
             then
             their
             own
             things
             :
             for
             if
             (
             as
             I
             suppose
             )
             you
             will
             believe
             
               Matchiavell
               ,
            
             hee
             teacheth
             you
             that
             the
             setting
             up
             of
             the
             ordinances
             of
             Christ
             ,
             is
             the
             best
             way
             to
             make
             a
             Kingdome
             flourish
             in
             prosperity
             and
             peace
             .
             I
             conclude
             therefore
             that
             procra●tinations
             in
             reforming
             Religion
             may
             prove
             very
             pernitious
             aswell
             to
             the
             Common-wealth
             ,
             as
             to
             the
             Church
             .
             And
             for
             my
             part
             I
             must
             confesse
             ,
             I
             am
             afraid
             that
             the
             Parliament
             hath
             felt
             ,
             and
             shall
             yet
             feel
             Gods
             hand
             against
             them
             i●
             other
             things
             ,
             because
             of
             their
             doing
             the
             work
             of
             the
             Lord
             so
             negligently
             ,
             and
             at
             the
             best
             by
             halfes
             .
             I
             wish
             the
             Honourable
             
             House
             of
             Commons
             may
             remember
             what
             they
             were
             about
             at
             that
             instant
             ,
             when
             the
             sad
             newes
             of
             the
             dispersion
             of
             the
             Army
             in
             the
             West
             ,
             were
             brought
             to
             them
             :
             And
             if
             they
             shall
             inquire
             at
             God
             ,
             
             as
             
               Iob
            
             did
             ,
             
               Show
               mee
               wherefore
               thou
               contendest
               with
               me
               .
            
             I
             doubt
             not
             but
             they
             shall
             heare
             the
             voice
             of
             his
             servants
             ,
             the
             voice
             of
             his
             rods
             ,
             and
             the
             voice
             of
             their
             owne
             Consciences
             telling
             them
             that
             he
             hath
             
               somewhat
               against
               them
            
             :
             that
             hee
             healeth
             not
             the
             breaches
             of
             the
             land
             ,
             because
             they
             heal
             not
             the
             breach
             of
             the
             daughter
             of
             
               Sion
               :
            
             that
             hee
             makes
             the
             successe
             of
             the
             warre
             to
             halt
             ,
             because
             they
             halt
             betwixt
             two
             ,
             or
             rather
             many
             opinions
             .
          
        
         
           
             Civilian
             .
          
           
             I
             doe
             fully
             agree
             with
             you
             if
             all
             this
             be
             understood
             of
             the
             fundamentals
             of
             Faith
             and
             Religion
             ,
             and
             the
             power
             of
             godlinesse
             .
             But
             if
             so
             be
             ,
             you
             meane
             of
             the
             government
             and
             discipline
             of
             the
             Church
             ,
             then
             you
             make
             
               Mountaines
            
             of
             
               mole-hills
               ,
            
             and
             put
             
               Hercules
            
             sh●e
             upon
             an
             infants
             foot
             ,
             whiles
             you
             hold
             that
             God
             is
             not
             pleased
             ,
             and
             that
             the
             Kingdome
             cannot
             be
             blessed
             ,
             unlesse
             the
             order
             and
             discipline
             of
             the
             Church
             bee
             established
             so
             and
             so
             as
             you
             would
             have
             it
             .
             I
             doe
             not
             acknowledge
             either
             the
             
               Episcopall
            
             way
             ,
             or
             the
             
               Presbiteriall
               ,
            
             or
             the
             
               C●ngregationall
               ,
            
             to
             be
             
               Iure
               divino
               ,
            
             But
             that
             all
             things
             of
             that
             kind
             are
             left
             in
             such
             an
             indifferency
             ,
             that
             they
             may
             bee
             moulded
             and
             fashioned
             diversly
             according
             to
             the
             different
             formes
             and
             constitutions
             of
             Common-wealths
             ,
             and
             altered
             as
             much
             and
             as
             often
             ,
             as
             each
             State
             shall
             find
             most
             convenient
             for
             it selfe
             .
             If
             you
             can
             convince
             me
             that
             I
             am
             in
             an
             error
             ,
             go
             to
             ,
             let
             me
             heare
             your
             reasons
             .
          
        
         
           
             Divine
             .
          
           
             I
             shall
             indeavour
             by
             Gods
             assistance
             to
             satisfie
             you
             .
             But
             first
             of
             all
             let
             me
             use
             this
             humble
             liberty
             with
             you
             ,
             
             once
             to
             put
             you
             in
             mind
             of
             the
             Apostles
             premonition
             ,
             
             
               Let
               no
               man
               deceive
               himselfe
               :
               if
               any
               man
               among
               you
               seem
               to
               be
               wise
               in
               this
               world
               ,
               let
               him
               become
               a
               foole
               that
               hee
               may
               bee
               wise
               .
            
             Hee
             that
             most
             denieth
             his
             owne
             naturall
             judgement
             in
             supernaturall
             verities
             ,
             and
             is
             not
             
               conformed
               to
               this
               world
               ,
               but
               is
               transformed
               by
               the
               renewing
               of
               his
               mind
            
             ;
             shall
             best
             
               prove
               what
               is
               that
               good
               and
               acceptable
               and
               perfect
               will
               of
               God
               .
            
             
             Absque
             te
             sapere
             ,
             est
             desipere
             .
             
               O
               Lord
               ,
            
             faith
             
               Augustine
               ,
               to
               be
               wise
               without
               thee
               ,
               is
               to
               be
               mad
               .
            
             Do
             not
             therefore
             measure
             
               Scripturall
            
             truths
             ,
             by
             
               Politicall
            
             principles
             ,
             but
             contrariwise
             ,
             and
             let
             your
             judgement
             be
             unbyassed
             and
             unprejudiced
             ,
             when
             light
             is
             set
             before
             you
             .
             And
             whereas
             it
             seemeth
             to
             you
             a
             veniall
             thing
             ,
             if
             not
             altogether
             lawfull
             to
             take
             a
             latitude
             in
             all
             such
             things
             as
             are
             not
             
               substantiall
            
             (
             though
             
               Scripturall
            
             )
             truths
             ,
             and
             may
             (
             you
             conceive
             )
             admit
             a
             variation
             upon
             State-considerations
             .
             Remember
             I
             beseech
             you
             that
             it
             is
             the
             pleasure
             of
             God
             to
             take
             notice
             of
             ,
             yea
             purposely
             to
             try
             our
             obedience
             ,
             
             
               Etiam
               in
               minimis
               :
               For
               hee
               that
               is
               faithfull
               in
               that
               which
               is
               least
               ,
               is
               faithfull
               also
               in
               much
               ,
               and
               he
               that
               is
               unjust
               in
               the
               least
               ,
               is
               unjust
               also
               in
               much
               .
            
             How
             was
             the
             Lord
             offended
             with
             
               Ieroboams
            
             setting
             up
             of
             Altars
             at
             
               Dan
            
             and
             
               Bethel
            
             :
             yea
             even
             with
             the
             Kings
             of
             
               Iudah
               ,
            
             for
             not
             taking
             away
             the
             high
             places
             ,
             though
             
               Ieroboam
            
             migh
             have
             pleaded
             that
             it
             was
             extreamly
             dangerous
             (
             in
             regard
             of
             the
             warre
             betwixt
             him
             and
             
               Rehoboam
            
             )
             that
             his
             subjects
             should
             goe
             up
             to
             
               Ierusalem
            
             to
             sacrifice
             unto
             the
             Lord
             there
             .
             And
             the
             Kings
             of
             
               Iudah
            
             might
             plead
             ,
             that
             it
             was
             too
             burthensome
             for
             all
             the
             people
             to
             be
             tyed
             to
             go
             to
             
               Ierusalem
            
             with
             their
             Sacrifices
             :
             that
             God
             would
             have
             mercy
             and
             not
             sacrifice
             ;
             especially
             considering
             that
             they
             held
             the
             foundation
             ,
             and
             sacrificed
             to
             the
             Lord
             only
             ;
             And
             this
             variation
             from
             the
             law
             of
             
               Moses
               ,
            
             being
             in
             no
             
             substantiall
             thing
             ,
             but
             only
             in
             the
             circumstance
             of
             place
             .
             In
             like
             manner
             
               Ieroboam
            
             thought
             not
             fit
             to
             have
             the
             feast
             of
             Tabernacles
             upon
             the
             fifteenth
             day
             of
             the
             seventh
             moneth
             ,
             but
             upon
             the
             fifteenth
             day
             of
             the
             eight
             moneth
             ,
             when
             the
             fruits
             of
             the
             earth
             were
             more
             fully
             gathered
             in
             :
             he
             would
             observe
             the
             feast
             according
             to
             the
             law
             in
             all
             the
             substantialls
             ,
             but
             would
             not
             bee
             tyed
             to
             the
             circumstance
             of
             time
             .
             But
             God
             doth
             utterly
             reject
             his
             worship
             ,
             
             because
             
               Ieroboam
            
             had
             devised
             it
             of
             his
             owne
             heart
             .
             If
             therefore
             the
             will
             of
             Jesus
             Christ
             can
             be
             made
             to
             appear
             from
             his
             word
             ,
             even
             concerning
             the
             form
             of
             Church-government
             and
             Discipline
             ,
             and
             ceremonies
             of
             worship
             ,
             that
             thus
             and
             thus
             he
             would
             have
             us
             to
             do
             ,
             will
             you
             then
             quarrell
             at
             these
             things
             ,
             because
             stamped
             with
             a
             
               I●
               divinum
            
             ?
             Will
             you
             draw
             out
             your
             neck
             from
             this
             yoke
             ,
             because
             it
             is
             Christs
             yoke
             ?
             Will
             you
             submit
             and
             obey
             because
             these
             things
             are
             ordinances
             of
             Parliament
             ,
             and
             you
             will
             not
             submit
             because
             they
             are
             ordinances
             of
             Christ
             .
          
        
         
           
             Civilian
             .
          
           
             You
             say
             right
             ,
             if
             you
             can
             make
             it
             appeare
             that
             Jesus
             Christ
             hath
             revealed
             his
             will
             and
             Commandements
             ,
             not
             only
             concerning
             faith
             and
             manners
             ,
             but
             how
             he
             would
             have
             his
             Church
             governed
             and
             ordered
             .
             Now
             this
             is
             it
             which
             you
             have
             yet
             to
             prove
             .
          
        
         
           
             Divine
             .
          
           
             For
             that
             ,
             I
             shall
             desire
             you
             to
             consider
             ,
             that
             Jesus
             Christ
             is
             the
             only
             Head
             and
             King
             of
             his
             Church
             ,
             that
             the
             government
             of
             his
             Church
             is
             a
             part
             of
             his
             Kingly
             office
             :
             
             that
             
               the
               Government
               is
               committed
               into
               his
               hand
               ,
               and
               the
               key
               of
               the
               house
               of
               David
               is
               laid
               upon
               his
               shoulder
            
             ;
             that
             the
             Father
             hath
             
               set
               him
               as
               a
               King
               upon
               his
               holy
               hill
               of
               Zion
               ,
            
             
             
               to
               raign
               over
               the
               house
               of
               Iacob
               for
               ever
               ,
               and
               of
               his
               
               Kingdom
               there
               shall
               be
               no
               end
               .
            
             As
             therefore
             he
             hath
             fully
             and
             faithfully
             executed
             his
             Priestly
             office
             in
             making
             attonement
             for
             our
             sins
             by
             the
             sacrifice
             of
             himselfe
             ,
             and
             still
             making
             intercession
             in
             heaven
             for
             us
             .
             And
             his
             Propheticall
             office
             in
             revealing
             the
             whole
             Counsell
             of
             God
             ,
             and
             teaching
             his
             people
             by
             his
             word
             and
             spirit
             ,
             what
             he
             would
             have
             them
             to
             do
             .
             So
             he
             hath
             no
             lesse
             fully
             &
             faithfully
             executed
             his
             Kingly
             office
             and
             Legislative
             power
             ,
             in
             providing
             by
             his
             Statutes
             and
             Ordinances
             for
             all
             the
             necessities
             of
             his
             Church
             ;
             and
             appointing
             by
             whom
             and
             after
             what
             manner
             he
             will
             have
             his
             house
             governed
             ,
             what
             spirituall
             Courts
             and
             Judicatories
             hee
             would
             have
             erected
             ,
             how
             he
             would
             have
             them
             constituted
             ,
             by
             what
             rules
             to
             proceed
             ,
             how
             to
             censure
             offences
             .
             It
             is
             an
             old
             observation
             ,
             they
             are
             the
             best
             lawes
             ,
             which
             leave
             least
             to
             the
             power
             of
             the
             Judge
             to
             doe
             as
             he
             list
             .
             It
             were
             a
             bad
             administration
             of
             the
             supreame
             power
             in
             any
             Kingdom
             ,
             if
             no
             certaine
             kinds
             of
             subordinate
             officers
             ,
             nor
             no
             certain
             kind
             of
             government
             were
             appointed
             ,
             but
             all
             this
             left
             to
             the
             liberty
             of
             every
             Country
             or
             City
             .
             Now
             Jesus
             Christ
             is
             more
             wi●e
             ,
             and
             provident
             ,
             and
             faithfull
             ,
             in
             the
             government
             of
             his
             whole
             Church
             ,
             then
             ever
             King
             or
             Parliament
             was
             in
             the
             government
             of
             an
             earthly
             Kingdome
             ;
             and
             hath
             therefore
             appointed
             Officers
             ,
             Courts
             ,
             Censures
             ,
             and
             Lawes
             ,
             for
             the
             right
             ordering
             thereof
             ;
             and
             hath
             not
             left
             these
             things
             to
             bee
             determined
             by
             th●●
             or
             that
             State
             at
             their
             pleasure
             .
             I
             should
             wish
             you
             and
             all
             that
             are
             of
             your
             mind
             ,
             to
             study
             better
             the
             Kingly
             office
             ,
             and
             prerogative
             Royall
             ,
             of
             Jesus
             Christ
             .
          
        
         
           
             Civilian
             .
          
           
             I
             conceive
             the
             Kingly
             office
             of
             Christ
             to
             consist
             in
             this
             ,
             that
             he
             preserveth
             ,
             strengtheneth
             ,
             and
             delivereth
             the
             Church
             invisible
             ,
             and
             all
             the
             members
             of
             his
             mysticall
             
             body
             from
             the
             malice
             of
             the
             Divell
             ,
             and
             the
             wicked
             world
             ,
             and
             also
             ruleth
             and
             commandeth
             their
             hearts
             by
             his
             spirit
             ,
             to
             walk
             in
             the
             wayes
             of
             his
             obedience
             .
             But
             that
             the
             Kingly
             office
             of
             Christ
             reacheth
             so
             farre
             ,
             as
             to
             the
             externall
             government
             and
             order
             of
             a
             visible
             politicall
             ministeriall
             Church
             ,
             that
             I
             still
             doubt
             of
             .
          
        
         
           
             Divine
             .
          
           
             You
             observe
             not
             that
             my
             argument
             did
             conclude
             this
             very
             thing
             ,
             at
             which
             you
             stick
             ,
             that
             Christ
             hath
             appointed
             a
             certain
             policy
             and
             government
             ,
             and
             certain
             kinds
             of
             officers
             for
             the
             Church
             ,
             because
             hee
             hath
             fully
             and
             faithfully
             discharged
             his
             Kingly
             office
             in
             providing
             for
             all
             the
             necessities
             of
             his
             Church
             .
             And
             that
             hee
             raignes
             and
             rules
             in
             his
             Church
             ,
             not
             only
             
               mystically
               ,
            
             but
             
               politically
            
             considered
             ;
             I
             suppose
             you
             cannot
             deny
             ,
             if
             you
             observe
             that
             otherwise
             a
             visible
             politicall
             Church
             is
             a
             body
             without
             a
             head
             ,
             and
             subjects
             without
             a
             King
             .
             Therefore
             it
             is
             the
             ordinary
             expression
             of
             our
             Divines
             against
             Papists
             ,
             that
             the
             government
             of
             the
             Church
             is
             partly
             
               Monarchicall
            
             in
             regard
             of
             Christ
             our
             King
             and
             Law-giver
             ;
             partly
             
               Aristocraticall
            
             in
             regard
             of
             the
             Ministers
             and
             Officers
             ,
             and
             partly
             
               Democraticall
            
             in
             regard
             of
             certaine
             Liberties
             and
             Priviledges
             belonging
             to
             people
             .
          
        
         
           
             Civilian
             .
          
           
             I
             would
             understand
             whether
             the
             Reformed
             Churches
             hold
             the
             forme
             of
             their
             Ecclesiasticall
             government
             to
             be
             
               jure
               divino
               ,
            
             for
             I
             have
             heard
             ,
             that
             it
             was
             introduced
             among
             them
             only
             in
             a
             prudentiall
             way
             .
          
        
         
           
             Divine
             .
          
           
             I
             shall
             give
             you
             some
             cleare
             instances
             of
             their
             judgement
             ,
             such
             as
             come
             to
             my
             remembrance
             .
             In
             the
             Book
             of
             the
             policy
             of
             the
             Church
             of
             
               Scotland
               ,
            
             I
             read
             thus
             .
          
           
             
               This
               power
               and
               policy
               of
               the
               Church
               should
               lea●e
               upon
               the
               
               word
               immediately
               ,
               as
               the
               onely
               ground
               thereof
               ,
               and
               should
               bee
               taken
               from
               the
               pure
               fountaines
               of
               the
               Scriptures
               ,
               the
               Church
               hearing
               the
               voice
               of
               Christ
               ,
               the
               only
               spirituall
               King
               ,
               and
               being
               ruled
               by
               his
               Lawes
               .
            
             In
             the
             
               French
            
             confession
             it
             is
             said
             ,
             
               we
               beleeve
               that
               this
               true
               Church
               ought
               to
               bee
               governed
               by
               that
               Regiment
               or
               Discipline
               ,
               which
               our
               Lord
               Iesus
               Christ
               hath
               established
               .
            
             ●n
             the
             
               Belgick
            
             Confession
             ,
             I
             find
             words
             to
             the
             same
             purpose
             ▪
             
               We
               beleeve
               ,
            
             say
             they
             ,
             
               That
               this
               Church
               ought
               to
               be
               ruled
               and
               governed
               by
               that
               spirituall
               Regiment
               ,
               which
               God
               himselfe
               hath
               delivered
               in
               his
               word
               .
            
             See
             
               Harm
               ;
               Confes.
               
               Sect.
            
             11.
             
             If
             the
             question
             were
             only
             this
             ,
             whether
             the
             Divine
             right
             of
             this
             or
             that
             form
             of
             Church-Government
             is
             to
             be
             mentioned
             and
             held
             forth
             in
             the
             ordinance
             of
             Parliament
             ,
             for
             my
             part
             I
             should
             not
             contend
             much
             for
             that
             ,
             the
             businesse
             going
             right
             otherwise
             .
             But
             it
             belongeth
             at
             least
             to
             the
             Assembly
             of
             Divines
             to
             satisfie
             the
             consciences
             of
             men
             by
             holding
             forth
             the
             institution
             and
             ordinance
             of
             Jesus
             Christ
             :
             which
             if
             it
             bee
             not
             done
             ,
             our
             proceedings
             shall
             not
             be
             conformable
             to
             those
             of
             other
             Churches
             .
          
        
         
           
             Civilian
             .
          
           
             Well
             then
             ,
             goe
             on
             ;
             you
             did
             bring
             an
             argument
             from
             the
             Kingly
             office
             of
             Jesus
             Christ
             .
             Let
             me
             heare
             what
             other
             arguments
             you
             have
             to
             make
             it
             appeare
             that
             God
             hath
             in
             his
             word
             descended
             so
             farre
             into
             paricularities
             with
             us
             ,
             as
             to
             appoint
             a
             certain
             forme
             of
             Church-government
             .
          
        
         
           
             Divine
             .
          
           
             This
             will
             appeare
             best
             ,
             when
             the
             particular
             forme
             of
             Church-government
             with
             the
             Scripturall
             grounds
             of
             it
             ,
             shall
             be
             taken
             into
             consideration
             .
             This
             government
             is
             
               Iure
               divino
               .
               Ergo
               ,
            
             a
             government
             is
             
               Iure
               divi●●
               .
            
             This
             were
             too
             large
             a
             subject
             for
             our
             conference
             .
             But
             I
             ●●mit
             
             you
             to
             what
             is
             largely
             written
             concerning
             it
             .
             I
             shall
             only
             put
             you
             in
             mind
             ,
             that
             in
             all
             ages
             God
             hath
             by
             positive
             Lawes
             descended
             into
             many
             particularities
             with
             man
             .
             Take
             for
             instance
             beside
             the
             positive
             Law
             before
             the
             fall
             ,
             the
             Commandement
             not
             to
             eat
             of
             the
             tree
             of
             the
             knowledge
             of
             good
             and
             evill
             ,
             other
             positive
             Law●
             before
             the
             Law
             ,
             such
             as
             that
             of
             the
             distinction
             of
             clean
             and
             uncleane
             beasts
             ,
             
               Gen.
            
             7.
             the
             Law
             not
             to
             eat
             blood
             ,
             
               Gen.
            
             9.
             the
             Law
             of
             circumcision
             ,
             
               Gen.
            
             17.
             
             Under
             the
             Law
             ,
             beside
             morall
             and
             forensicall
             observances
             ,
             there
             were
             many
             ceremoniall
             Statutes
             .
             And
             under
             the
             Gospell
             ,
             Christ
             and
             his
             Apostles
             have
             left
             another
             Law
             ,
             which
             though
             it
             lay
             opon
             us
             ,
             neither
             many
             nor
             burthensome
             performances
             ,
             yet
             bindeth
             us
             to
             such
             and
             such
             things
             in
             Ecclesiasticall
             policy
             .
             The
             particulars
             we
             find
             in
             the
             Acts
             of
             the
             Apostles
             ,
             and
             in
             the
             Epistles
             ,
             especially
             to
             
               Timothy
            
             and
             
               Titus
               ,
            
             and
             
               Rom.
            
             12.
             and
             1.
             
               Cor.
            
             12.
             
          
        
         
           
             Civilian
             .
          
           
             Many
             particulars
             of
             that
             kind
             there
             are
             in
             the
             Acts
             and
             Epistles
             of
             the
             Apostles
             .
             But
             that
             those
             things
             were
             intended
             as
             perpetuall
             and
             binding
             ordinances
             ,
             is
             a
             great
             question
             .
             And
             beside
             I
             have
             heard
             some
             learned
             men
             make
             a
             distinction
             betwixt
             
               Ius
               di●inum
            
             ;
             and
             
               Ius
               Apostolicum
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             Divine
             .
          
           
             This
             distinction
             was
             used
             by
             those
             that
             denyed
             the
             
               jus
               divinum
            
             of
             the
             Lords
             day
             .
             But
             surely
             i●
             i●
             an
             i●●
             grounded
             distinction
             ,
             and
             those
             that
             make
             most
             use
             of
             it
             ,
             are
             forced
             also
             to
             distinguish
             betwixt
             
               Ius
               divinum
               ,
            
             and
             
               Ius
               Mosaicum
               ,
            
             holding
             that
             though
             God
             was
             the
             Author
             of
             the
             morall
             Law
             ,
             yet
             
               Moses
            
             (
             no●
             God
             )
             was
             the
             Author
             of
             the
             judiciall
             and
             ceremoniall
             Law
             :
             as
             the
             Apostles
             did
             write
             some
             things
             as
             Christs
             Heraulds
             :
             other
             things
             
             as
             Pastors
             or
             Bishops
             of
             the
             Churches
             ;
             that
             they
             were
             Authors
             of
             the
             latter
             ,
             
             promulgators
             only
             of
             the
             former
             ,
             and
             that
             therefore
             the
             former
             only
             were
             
               Iure
               divino
               .
            
             Thus
             saith
             
               Salmeron
               ,
            
             but
             hee
             is
             in
             this
             contradicted
             by
             
               Bellarmine
               ,
               Maldonat
               ,
               Suarez
               ,
            
             and
             others
             .
             
               Lorinus
            
             in
             
               Psal.
            
             88.32
             .
             noteth
             ,
             that
             it
             was
             one
             of
             the
             errors
             of
             
               Valentinus
            
             and
             of
             the
             
               Gnosticks
               ,
            
             that
             the
             Decalogue
             only
             was
             from
             God
             ;
             and
             other
             Lawes
             from
             
               Moses
            
             and
             the
             Elders
             of
             Israel
             .
             But
             what
             saith
             the
             Apostle
             himselfe
             after
             hee
             hath
             given
             rules
             concerning
             the
             policy
             of
             the
             Church
             ,
             
               Let
               the
               Prophets
               speak
               two
               or
               three
               ,
               and
               let
               the
               other
               judge
               ;
               and
               the
               Spirits
               of
               the
               Prophets
               are
               subject
               to
               the
               Prophets
               .
               Let
               your
               women
               keep
               silence
               in
               the
               Churches
               ,
            
             &c.
             
             Then
             he
             addeth
             ,
             1.
             
               Cor.
            
             14.37
             .
             
               If
               any
               man
               think
               himselfe
               to
               be
               a
               Prophet
               or
               spirituall
               ,
               let
               him
               acknowledge
               ,
               that
               the
               things
               that
               I
               writ
               unto
               you
               ,
               are
               the
               Commandements
               of
               the
               Lord
               .
            
             Doe
             wee
             not
             also
             find
             ,
             the
             laying
             on
             of
             hands
             reckoned
             among
             those
             cat●cheticall
             heads
             which
             the
             Apostles
             did
             deliver
             as
             perpetuall
             to
             all
             the
             Churches
             ,
             
               Heb.
            
             6.2
             .
             Papists
             understand
             the
             Episcopall
             confirmation
             .
             Dwerse
             of
             our
             writers
             understand
             ordination
             of
             Ministers
             ,
             and
             the
             severall
             kinds
             of
             Church
             officers
             .
             However
             it
             is
             agreed
             on
             both
             sides
             ,
             it
             is
             a
             thing
             belonging
             to
             the
             policy
             of
             the
             Church
             ,
             not
             to
             the
             foundation
             of
             faith
             or
             piety
             .
             I
             adde
             that
             the
             directions
             given
             to
             
               Timothy
            
             and
             
               Titus
            
             are
             standing
             ordinances
             for
             all
             the
             Churches
             ,
             as
             may
             be
             proved
             from
             1.
             
               Tim.
            
             3.15
             .
             and
             6.14
             .
             and
             2.
             
               Tim.
            
             2.2
             .
          
        
         
           
             Civilian
             .
          
           
             But
             
               Ratio
               mutabilis
               facit
               praeceptum
               mutabile
               .
            
             The
             reason
             why
             there
             were
             ruling
             Elders
             and
             Deacons
             ,
             and
             Church-censures
             at
             that
             time
             was
             ,
             because
             there
             was
             no
             Chri●●ian
             Magistrate
             .
             So
             that
             under
             a
             Christian
             Magistrate
             
             there
             is
             no
             necessity
             of
             such
             officers
             ,
             government
             ,
             or
             censures
             in
             the
             Church
             .
          
        
         
           
             Divine
             .
          
           
             I
             answer
             ,
             First
             there
             is
             no
             ground
             at
             all
             in
             Scripture
             for
             such
             a
             distinction
             ,
             for
             the
             Scripture
             holds
             not
             out
             one
             form
             of
             Church-government
             ,
             for
             times
             of
             persecution
             ,
             another
             for
             times
             of
             peace
             .
             But
             rather
             one
             form
             to
             bee
             perpetuall
             and
             continued
             ,
             till
             the
             second
             coming
             of
             Jesus
             Christ
             .
             
               Rev.
            
             2.24
             ,
             25.
             
             
               That
               which
               ye●
               have
               already
               ,
               hold
               fast
               till
               I
               come
               .
            
             So
             1.
             
               Tim.
            
             6.14
             .
             before
             cited
             ,
             and
             the
             like
             .
             2.
             
             
               Chrysostome
               Hom.
            
             12.
             in
             1.
             
               Cor.
            
             doth
             shew
             diverse
             sinnes
             for
             which
             the
             best
             Law-givers
             had
             appointed
             no
             punishment
             .
             And
             where
             there
             are
             Christian
             Magistrates
             ,
             yet
             there
             are
             no
             Lawes
             nor
             civill
             punishments
             for
             somethings
             which
             must
             needs
             fall
             within
             the
             compasse
             of
             Church-discipline
             ,
             such
             as
             ignorance
             of
             God
             ,
             neglect
             of
             family
             worship
             ,
             living
             in
             malice
             ,
             or
             envy
             ,
             &c.
             3.
             
             And
             though
             the
             civill
             or
             municipall
             Lawes
             should
             reach
             to
             all
             offences
             which
             are
             supposed
             to
             fall
             under
             the
             verge
             of
             Church-discipline
             ,
             yet
             there
             is
             still
             a
             necessary
             use
             of
             both
             .
             For
             instance
             ,
             a
             Traitor
             ,
             or
             a
             Murtherer
             being
             excommunicated
             by
             the
             Church
             ,
             is
             by
             the
             blessing
             of
             God
             gained
             to
             true
             repentance
             ,
             humiliation
             ,
             and
             confession
             ,
             whereupon
             hee
             is
             loosed
             and
             remitted
             ,
             and
             again
             received
             into
             the
             bosome
             of
             the
             Church
             :
             neverthelesse
             the
             civill
             sword
             falleth
             upon
             him
             ;
             were
             hee
             never
             so
             penitent
             ,
             shall
             such
             a
             one
             either
             escape
             the
             civill
             sword
             because
             reconciled
             to
             the
             Church
             ,
             or
             shall
             he
             after
             God
             hath
             given
             him
             mercy
             ,
             and
             a
             great
             measure
             of
             repentance
             ,
             die
             under
             the
             dreadfull
             sentence
             of
             excommunication
             ,
             because
             Justice
             must
             bee
             done
             by
             the
             Magistrate
             .
             There
             is
             no
             way
             of
             avo●ding
             great
             inconveniences
             on
             both
             sides
             ,
             but
             by
             holding
             the
             necessary
             
             distinct
             uses
             both
             of
             the
             sword
             of
             the
             Magistrate
             ,
             and
             censures
             of
             the
             Church
             .
             4.
             
             And
             when
             they
             are
             most
             coincident
             ,
             it
             is
             but
             materially
             or
             objectively
             ,
             not
             formally
             :
             one
             and
             the
             same
             man
             must
             bee
             civilly
             punished
             ,
             because
             justice
             and
             the
             law
             of
             the
             land
             so
             requireth
             ,
             and
             that
             the
             Common
             wealth
             may
             bee
             kept
             in
             Peace
             and
             Order
             ;
             he
             must
             also
             bee
             Ecclesiastically
             censured
             ,
             that
             his
             soule
             may
             be
             humbled
             ,
             that
             hee
             may
             bee
             filled
             with
             godly
             sorrow
             ,
             and
             with
             shame
             and
             confusion
             of
             face
             ,
             and
             drawn
             to
             repentance
             ,
             (
             if
             possible
             )
             which
             the
             Church
             ,
             not
             the
             Magistrate
             ,
             driveth
             at
             .
          
        
         
           
             Civilian
             .
          
           
             I
             have
             heard
             it
             asserted
             by
             some
             learned
             men
             ,
             that
             among
             the
             Jewes
             ,
             there
             was
             no
             government
             nor
             discipline
             in
             the
             Church
             distinct
             from
             the
             government
             of
             the
             State
             ,
             yea
             ,
             that
             there
             was
             no
             such
             distinction
             as
             Church
             and
             State
             ,
             but
             that
             the
             Jewish
             Church
             was
             the
             Jewish
             State
             ,
             and
             the
             Jewish
             State
             the
             Jewish
             Church
             ;
             and
             if
             it
             was
             so
             among
             them
             (
             whose
             formes
             you
             take
             in
             many
             particulars
             for
             patterns
             )
             I
             would
             fain
             know
             why
             it
             may
             not
             be
             so
             among
             us
             .
          
        
         
           
             Divine
             .
          
           
             Though
             the
             Jewish
             Church
             and
             Common
             wealth
             were
             for
             the
             most
             part
             not
             different
             materially
             ,
             the
             same
             men
             being
             members
             of
             both
             ,
             even
             as
             in
             all
             Christian
             Republickes
             ,
             yet
             they
             were
             formally
             different
             one
             from
             another
             ,
             in
             regard
             of
             distinct
             Acts
             ,
             Lawes
             ,
             Courts
             ,
             Officers
             ,
             Censures
             ,
             and
             Administrations
             .
             For
             ,
             1.
             
             The
             Ceremoniall
             law
             given
             was
             given
             to
             them
             as
             a
             Church
             ,
             the
             Judiciall
             law
             given
             to
             them
             as
             a
             State
             .
             2.
             
             They
             did
             not
             worship
             ,
             doe
             sacrifice
             ,
             pray
             ,
             praise
             ,
             &c.
             as
             a
             State
             ;
             nor
             did
             they
             kill
             malefactors
             with
             the
             sword
             as
             a
             Church
             .
             3.
             
             As
             the
             Lords
             matters
             and
             the
             Kings
             matters
             were
             distinguished
             ,
             
             so
             there
             were
             two
             different
             Courts
             for
             judging
             of
             the
             one
             and
             the
             other
             ,
             2.
             
               Chron.
            
             19.8.11
             .
             
               Fourthly
               ,
            
             when
             the
             
               Romans
            
             took
             away
             the
             Jewish
             State
             and
             Civill
             government
             ,
             yet
             their
             Church
             did
             remain
             .
             5.
             
             The
             government
             of
             the
             State
             and
             the
             constitution
             thereof
             was
             not
             the
             same
             under
             the
             Judges
             ,
             under
             the
             Kings
             ,
             and
             after
             the
             captivity
             :
             shall
             we
             therefore
             say
             that
             the
             Church
             was
             altered
             and
             new
             moulded
             ,
             as
             oft
             as
             the
             Civill
             government
             was
             changed
             .
             
             6.
             
             Learned
             Master
             
               Selden
            
             hath
             rightly
             observed
             ,
             that
             those
             Proselytes
             who
             were
             called
             
               Prosiliti
               justitiae
               ,
            
             though
             they
             were
             initiated
             into
             the
             Jewish
             Religion
             by
             Circumcision
             ,
             Baptisme
             ,
             and
             Sacrifice
             ;
             and
             were
             free
             not
             only
             to
             worship
             God
             apart
             by
             themselves
             ,
             but
             also
             to
             come
             into
             the
             Church
             or
             Congregation
             of
             the
             Israelites
             ,
             
             and
             did
             get
             to
             themselvs
             the
             name
             of
             Jews
             :
             yet
             were
             restrained
             and
             debarred
             from
             Dignities
             ,
             Magistracies
             and
             preferments
             ,
             as
             also
             from
             some
             marriages
             which
             were
             permitted
             to
             the
             Israelites
             .
             He
             addeth
             a
             simile
             of
             strangers
             initiated
             and
             associated
             into
             the
             Church
             of
             
               Rome
               ,
            
             who
             yet
             have
             not
             the
             priviledge
             of
             
               Roman
            
             Citizens
             :
             whence
             we
             gather
             most
             apparently
             a
             distinction
             of
             the
             Jewish
             Church
             and
             the
             Jewish
             State
             ;
             for
             as
             much
             as
             those
             Proselytes
             were
             imbodied
             into
             the
             Iewish
             Church
             ,
             and
             as
             Church-members
             did
             communicate
             in
             the
             holy
             ordinances
             of
             God
             ,
             
             yet
             they
             were
             not
             properly
             members
             of
             the
             Iewish
             State
             ,
             nor
             admitted
             to
             Civil
             privileges
             .
          
        
         
           
             Civilian
             .
          
           
             But
             I
             find
             no
             censure
             nor
             punishment
             of
             offences
             in
             the
             Iewish
             Church
             ,
             except
             what
             the
             Civill
             power
             did
             inflict
             ,
             no
             such
             censure
             as
             excommunication
             or
             separation
             from
             the
             Temple
             ,
             Synagoue
             or
             ordinances
             .
             And
             since
             you
             have
             cited
             Master
             
               Selden
            
             for
             you
             ,
             I
             will
             cite
             him
             against
             you
             ,
             for
             he
             saith
             in
             his
             late
             Book
             ,
             that
             hee
             who
             was
             separate
             or
             excommunicated
             among
             the
             Jewes
             ,
             
             was
             not
             excluded
             from
             the
             Temple
             ,
             Sacrifices
             or
             holy
             Assemblies
             ,
             but
             only
             debarred
             from
             the
             liberty
             of
             Civill
             worship
             ,
             so
             that
             he
             might
             not
             sit
             within
             foure
             cubits
             of
             off
             his
             companion
             or
             neighbour
             .
          
        
         
           
             Divine
             .
          
           
             
             I
             shall
             doe
             M.
             
               Selden
            
             so
             much
             right
             as
             to
             appeal
             from
             him
             to
             himself
             ,
             for
             in
             another
             place
             where
             he
             writeth
             at
             greater
             length
             of
             the
             Jewish
             excommunication
             ,
             he
             describeth
             it
             to
             have
             been
             a
             separation
             ,
             not
             only
             from
             the
             former
             civill
             commerce
             and
             company
             in
             regard
             of
             that
             distance
             of
             foure
             cubits
             ,
             but
             also
             from
             communicating
             together
             in
             prayer
             and
             holy
             Assemblies
             .
             And
             that
             it
             was
             so
             ,
             it
             is
             not
             only
             the
             most
             received
             opinion
             of
             Protestant
             Divines
             ,
             but
             even
             of
             those
             who
             have
             devoted
             themselves
             to
             the
             study
             of
             the
             Jewish
             Antiquities
             ,
             such
             as
             
               Drusius
               ,
               Iohannes
               Couh
               ,
               L'Empereur
               ,
            
             and
             others
             .
          
           
             
               Brughton
            
             also
             in
             his
             Exposition
             of
             the
             Lords
             prayer
             ,
             
               pag.
            
             14.
             
               &c.
            
             tells
             us
             that
             the
             Jewish
             Church
             and
             the
             Apostolike
             Church
             ,
             though
             they
             differed
             about
             traditions
             
             and
             about
             the
             
               Messiah
               ,
            
             yet
             
               for
               government
               they
               agreed
               .
            
             He
             giveth
             instance
             in
             these
             particulars
             ,
             the
             rulers
             of
             the
             Synagogue
             ,
             the
             readers
             of
             the
             Law
             ,
             and
             the
             Prophets
             ,
             the
             qualities
             of
             a
             Bishop
             ,
             or
             Elder
             ,
             the
             providing
             for
             the
             poor
             ,
             
               the
               maner
               of
               excommunication
               and
               absolution
               ,
            
             the
             laws
             to
             bridle
             Elders
             from
             Tyranny
             :
             
               All
               these
               are
               the
               same
               in
               both
               ,
            
             saith
             he
             .
             Now
             these
             men
             were
             most
             exquisitely
             acquainted
             with
             those
             studies
             and
             their
             Testimonies
             may
             serve
             instead
             of
             many
             more
             that
             may
             be
             added
             .
             Hereunto
             that
             distinction
             of
             3.
             kinds
             of
             excommunication
             received
             from
             
               Elias
               in
               Thesbyte
               ,
               Niddui
               ,
               Herem
               ,
               &
               Sammatha
               ,
            
             whether
             we
             understand
             as
             some
             doe
             ,
             that
             
               Niddui
            
             was
             a
             separation
             according
             to
             the
             ceremoniall
             law
             ,
             and
             
               Herem
            
             the
             devoting
             of
             one
             to
             death
             ,
             and
             capitall
             punishment
             ;
             or
             whether
             we
             distinguish
             betwixt
             
               Niddui
            
             &
             
               Herem
            
             (
             which
             two
             only
             are
             mentioned
             in
             the
             law
             )
             as
             we
             use
             to
             doe
             betwixt
             
               excommunicatio
               minor
               ,
            
             and
             
               major
            
             ;
             which
             is
             the
             opin●on
             of
             others
             .
          
        
         
           
             Civilia●.
          
           
             It
             may
             be
             there
             was
             a
             separation
             or
             ejection
             from
             the
             Temple
             ,
             Synagogue
             ,
             &
             worship
             ,
             but
             I
             deny
             that
             this
             was
             done
             judicially
             or
             by
             the
             sentence
             of
             a
             Court
             ,
             
             for
             as
             M.
             
               Selden
            
             observeth
             ,
             the
             very
             letter
             of
             the
             law
             ,
             not
             any
             judiciall
             sentence
             did
             exclude
             the
             unclean
             from
             the
             Temple
             .
          
        
         
           
             Divine
             .
          
           
             I
             answer
             ,
             men
             were
             excluded
             from
             the
             Temple
             and
             worship
             ,
             either
             for
             ceremoniall
             or
             morall
             uncleanes
             ,
             the
             former
             is
             particularly
             determined
             in
             the
             law
             ,
             the
             latter
             not
             so
             ,
             but
             left
             as
             a
             necessary
             consequence
             from
             the
             law
             ,
             for
             if
             God
             would
             have
             men
             kept
             back
             for
             ceremonial
             uncleanes
             ,
             it
             may
             be
             for
             touching
             (
             though
             casually
             and
             unwillingly
             )
             a
             vessell
             ,
             a
             seat
             ,
             a
             cloth
             ,
             a
             body
             ,
             or
             somewhat
             else
             that
             was
             unclean
             ;
             surely
             it
             was
             much
             more
             his
             will
             that
             such
             as
             are
             morally
             unclean
             by
             a
             prophane
             or
             scandalous
             life
             ,
             should
             not
             be
             admitted
             .
             However
             it
             was
             necessary
             
             that
             matters
             of
             fact
             should
             bee
             examined
             by
             a
             Court
             ,
             whether
             they
             did
             fall
             within
             the
             verge
             of
             the
             law
             or
             not
             .
             But
             what
             will
             you
             say
             ,
             if
             I
             give
             you
             scripture
             for
             excommunication
             ,
             by
             a
             judiciall
             sentence
             .
             
               Ezra
            
             10.8
             .
             we
             read
             of
             a
             mixed
             meeting
             of
             the
             Princes
             ,
             Elders
             ,
             Priests
             and
             Levites
             ,
             where
             it
             was
             decreed
             that
             whosoever
             would
             not
             come
             to
             
               Ierusalem
            
             within
             3.
             dayes
             ,
             should
             be
             punished
             ,
             with
             the
             forfeiture
             of
             all
             his
             substance
             ;
             
               and
               himselfe
               separated
               from
               the
               congregation
               of
               those
               that
               had
               been
               carried
               away
               .
            
             A
             double
             punishment
             Civil
             and
             Ecclesiastical
             ,
             forfeiture
             and
             excommunication
             ,
             according
             as
             that
             extraordinary
             occasion
             made
             a
             conjuncture
             and
             concurrence
             of
             the
             Civill
             and
             the
             Ecclesiasticall
             Sanedrim
             at
             that
             time
             ,
             
               Lyra
               ,
               Hugo
               Cardinalis
               ,
               Cajetan
               ,
            
             and
             of
             ours
             
               Diodati
               ,
            
             and
             
               Lavater
               ,
            
             all
             upon
             the
             place
             (
             beside
             others
             who
             cite
             the
             place
             occasionally
             )
             do
             agree
             that
             the
             separation
             from
             the
             congregation
             (
             
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
            
             as
             the
             70.
             read
             it
             ,
             it
             is
             
               Kahal
            
             in
             the
             Hebrew
             )
             is
             meant
             of
             excommunication
             from
             the
             Temple
             and
             worship
             :
             even
             as
             that
             casting
             out
             mentioned
             ,
             
               Isa
            
             66.5
             .
             So
             in
             the
             new
             Testament
             this
             iniquity
             was
             established
             by
             a
             law
             ,
             that
             whosoever
             should
             confesse
             that
             Jesus
             was
             the
             Christ
             ,
             should
             be
             cast
             out
             of
             the
             Synagogue
             ,
             10.9.22
             .
             and
             12.42
             .
             and
             16.2
             .
          
        
         
           
             Civilian
             .
          
           
             But
             there
             is
             not
             in
             all
             the
             law
             of
             
               Moses
            
             any
             syllable
             of
             such
             an
             excommunication
             as
             you
             speak
             of
             ,
             except
             you
             take
             that
             to
             be
             it
             ,
             which
             is
             often
             repeated
             in
             the
             law
             ,
             
               that
               soule
               shall
               be
               cut
               off
               from
               among
               his
               people
               .
            
             Now
             that
             may
             be
             expounded
             either
             of
             capitall
             punishment
             and
             cutting
             off
             by
             the
             hand
             of
             the
             Magistrate
             ;
             or
             (
             as
             
               Ainsworth
            
             and
             M.
             
               Selden
            
             following
             the
             most
             part
             of
             the
             Hebrewes
             expound
             it
             )
             of
             cutting
             off
             by
             the
             hand
             of
             God
             ,
             that
             is
             ,
             th●●
             God
             would
             not
             suffer
             such
             a
             one
             to
             live
             out
             halfe
             his
             dayes
             ,
             but
             take
             him
             away
             by
             an
             untimous
             dea●h
             .
          
        
         
         
           
             Divine
             .
          
           
             I
             know
             that
             both
             Jewish
             and
             Christian
             Interpreters
             have
             much
             differed
             among
             themselves
             ,
             in
             expounding
             that
             commination
             of
             the
             Law
             .
             But
             I
             shall
             only
             offer
             my
             reasons
             against
             these
             two
             Glosses
             which
             you
             have
             mentioned
             ,
             and
             then
             tell
             you
             what
             I
             conceive
             to
             be
             the
             true
             meaning
             .
             To
             expound
             all
             those
             places
             of
             the
             Magistrates
             cutting
             off
             men
             by
             death
             ,
             were
             to
             make
             the
             Laws
             of
             God
             more
             bloody
             then
             
               Draco's
               :
            
             I
             appeal
             to
             your self
             ,
             doe
             you
             thinke
             it
             at
             all
             credible
             ,
             that
             God
             would
             have
             men
             put
             to
             death
             for
             eating
             of
             the
             fat
             ,
             or
             the
             blood
             ,
             though
             by
             chance
             ,
             for
             making
             a
             perfume
             like
             the
             Preistly
             perfume
             to
             smell
             ,
             for
             touching
             a
             dead
             body
             ,
             
             or
             a
             grave
             ,
             or
             a
             Tent
             ,
             wherein
             a
             man
             had
             died
             ,
             or
             for
             touching
             something
             which
             he
             that
             was
             uncleane
             had
             touched
             ,
             and
             not
             being
             sprinkled
             thereafter
             with
             the
             water
             of
             seperation
             :
             yet
             for
             these
             and
             the
             like
             ceremomoniall
             defilements
             and
             tresspasses
             ,
             men
             were
             to
             be
             cut
             off
             from
             the
             Congregation
             of
             
               Israel
            
             Now
             for
             that
             other
             Exposition
             ,
             of
             cutting
             off
             by
             the
             hand
             of
             God
             ,
             that
             which
             they
             take
             for
             the
             ground
             and
             foundation
             of
             it
             ,
             that
             is
             ,
             that
             the
             cutting
             off
             ,
             mentioned
             in
             the
             Law
             ,
             is
             understood
             only
             of
             private
             sinnes
             ,
             known
             to
             God
             only
             ,
             and
             which
             could
             not
             be
             proved
             by
             witnesses
             ,
             this
             I
             say
             ,
             if
             it
             could
             be
             proved
             ,
             would
             indeed
             make
             good
             their
             Interpretation
             ,
             but
             the
             truth
             is
             ,
             it
             is
             a
             meere
             conjecture
             ,
             for
             which
             they
             have
             no
             warrant
             in
             the
             Word
             .
             Nay
             ,
             the
             Word
             is
             against
             it
             :
             for
             the
             end
             of
             that
             cutting
             off
             ,
             w●s
             that
             the
             Children
             of
             
               Israel
            
             might
             feare
             to
             doe
             that
             ,
             which
             they
             s●●
             so
             sore
             punished
             ,
             
               Levit.
            
             17
             4.5
             .
             Which
             use
             they
             could
             not
             make
             of
             a
             divine
             judgement
             inflicted
             for
             a
             private
             sinne
             .
             I
             know
             they
             doe
             further
             object
             from
             
               Levit.
            
             17.10
             .
             
               &
            
             20.5.6
             .
             that
             
             the
             cutting
             off
             ,
             was
             a
             work
             of
             God
             ,
             not
             of
             men
             ;
             But
             to
             that
             I
             say
             ,
             it
             was
             not
             so
             ,
             except
             in
             extraordinary
             cases
             ,
             when
             men
             ,
             who
             should
             have
             cut
             off
             the
             wicked
             ;
             did
             it
             not
             :
             and
             this
             appears
             plainly
             from
             
               Levit.
            
             20.4
             ,
             5.
             
             
               And
               if
               the
               people
               of
               the
               land
               hide
               their
               eyes
               from
               the
               man
               ,
               when
               he
               giveth
               of
               his
               seed
               unto
               Molech
               ,
               and
               kill
               him
               not
               :
               Then
            
             (
             marke
             
               then
               ,
            
             and
             in
             that
             case
             )
             
               I
               will
               set
               my
               face
               against
               that
               man
               ,
               and
               against
               his
               family
               ,
               and
               will
               cut
               him
               off
               .
            
             Wherefore
             I
             conclude
             ,
             that
             the
             cutting
             off
             in
             the
             Law
             ,
             and
             especially
             ,
             in
             the
             Ceremoniall
             Law
             ,
             can
             be
             nothing
             else
             but
             Excommunication
             from
             the
             Church
             ,
             and
             Communion
             in
             the
             holy
             things
             .
             Which
             as
             it
             is
             most
             received
             among
             our
             Expositors
             ,
             so
             the
             Apostle
             .
             1
             
               Cor.
            
             5.
             doth
             give
             us
             a
             hint
             of
             it
             :
             for
             as
             it
             is
             plaine
             from
             
               vers
               .
            
             6
             ,
             7
             ,
             8.
             that
             he
             alludes
             to
             the
             history
             of
             the
             Passover
             ,
             
               Exod.
            
             12.
             so
             when
             he
             saith
             ,
             
               vers.
            
             13.
             
             
               Put
               away
               from
               among
               your selves
               that
               wicked
               person
               ,
            
             he
             hath
             respect
             to
             ,
             
               Exo.
            
             12.19
             .
             Where
             it
             it
             is
             said
             ,
             
               Whosoever
               eateth
               that
               which
               is
               leavened
               ,
               even
               that
               soul
               shall
               be
               cut
               off
               from
               the
               Congregation
               of
               Israel
               .
            
             All
             this
             I
             conclude
             with
             a
             Passage
             of
             Mr.
             
             
               Williams
            
             his
             
               bloody
               Tenent
               ,
               cap.
            
             121.
             where
             though
             he
             doth
             not
             acknowledg
             a
             spirituall
             excommunication
             in
             the
             Jewish
             Church
             ,
             yet
             he
             acknowledgeth
             such
             a
             coercive
             power
             in
             cutting
             off
             ,
             as
             hath
             for
             the
             antitype
             and
             paralell
             of
             it
             Excommunication
             in
             the
             Ghristian
             Church
             .
             
               Out
               of
               that
               blessed
               temporall
               estate
               ,
               (
               saith
               he
               )
               to
               be
               cast
               or
               carried
               captive
               ,
               was
               their
               Excommunication
               or
               casting
               out
               of
               Gods
               sight
               .
            
             2
             
               Kings
            
             17.23
             .
             
               Therefore
               was
               the
               Blasph●●●●
               the
               false
               Prophet
               ,
               the
               Idolater
               ,
               to
               be
               cast
               out
               ,
               or
               cut
               off
               ●●●m
               this
               holy
               land
               :
               which
               punishment
               cannot
               be
               parrallelld
               by
               the
               punishment
               of
               any
               State
               or
               Kingdome
               in
               the
               world
               ,
               but
               only
               by
               the
               excommunicating
               or
               out-casting
               of
               person
               or
               Church
               from
               the
               fellowship
               
               of
               the
               Saints
               and
               Churches
               of
               Christ
               Iesus
               in
               the
               Gospel
            
             ;
             For
             this
             spirituall
             cutting
             off
             ,
             he
             citeth
             1.
             
               Cor.
            
             5.
             
             
               Gal.
            
             5.
             
             Behold
             he
             who
             hath
             pleaded
             most
             for
             the
             liberty
             of
             conscience
             ,
             is
             forced
             to
             acknowledge
             the
             censure
             of
             Excommunication
             .
          
        
         
           
             Civilian
             .
          
           
             But
             can
             you
             show
             any
             warrant
             fro●
             the
             New
             Testament
             for
             Church
             Censures
             and
             Excommunication
             ,
             as
             an
             Institution
             and
             Ordinance
             of
             Christ
             .
             I
             know
             your
             
               Magna
               Charta
               ,
            
             which
             you
             pretend
             to
             ,
             is
             
               Mat.
            
             18.17
             .
             
               Tell
               the
               Church
               ,
               and
               if
               he
               heare
               not
               the
               Church
               ,
               let
               him
               be
               unto
               thee
               ,
               as
               an
               Heathen
               man
               ,
               &
               a
               Publican
               .
            
             But
             the
             sence
             of
             that
             place
             ,
             I
             take
             to
             be
             that
             which
             was
             given
             by
             
               Erastus
            
             and
             
               Bilson
               ,
            
             that
             is
             ,
             That
             in
             the
             case
             of
             private
             and
             civill
             injuries
             ,
             the
             injured
             party
             should
             first
             of
             all
             seek
             right
             and
             reparation
             of
             the
             wrong
             ,
             of
             the
             injuring
             party
             ,
             which
             if
             it
             take
             not
             effect
             ,
             then
             to
             doe
             it
             before
             witnesses
             ,
             and
             if
             that
             also
             prevaile
             not
             ,
             then
             to
             tell
             the
             Church
             ,
             that
             is
             the
             Sanedrim
             of
             the
             Jewes
             ,
             which
             was
             a
             civill
             Judicature
             ,
             and
             if
             the
             man
             that
             hath
             done
             wrong
             ,
             will
             not
             stand
             to
             the
             sentence
             of
             the
             Sanedrim
             ,
             that
             then
             one
             should
             deale
             with
             him
             as
             with
             an
             Heathen
             ,
             or
             a
             Publican
             ,
             that
             is
             ,
             complain
             of
             him
             to
             the
             Roman
             Emperor
             or
             his
             Deputies
             .
             Mr.
             
               Prynne
               ,
            
             in
             his
             late
             Booke
             called
             
               Independency
               examined
               ,
               pag.
            
             10.
             following
             Master
             
               Seldens
            
             judgement
             ,
             holdeth
             ,
             that
             by
             the
             Church
             ,
             
               Matth.
            
             18.17
             .
             is
             not
             meant
             any
             Ecclesiasticall
             Judicatory
             ,
             but
             the
             Civill
             Court
             ,
             or
             Sanedrim
             of
             the
             Jewes
             ,
             Even
             as
             
               Ib.
               pag.
            
             11.
             he
             holdeth
             the
             Assembly
             of
             the
             Apostles
             Elders
             and
             Brethren
             ,
             
               Act.
            
             15.
             to
             be
             an
             undeniable
             Scripture
             Authority
             ,
             for
             Parliaments
             as
             well
             as
             for
             Synods
             ,
             to
             come
             together
             upon
             all
             like
             occasions
             .
             And
             as
             for
             these
             words
             ,
             
               let
               him
               be
               thee
               as
               an
               Heathen
               
               and
               a
               Publicane
               ,
            
             he
             understandeth
             the
             meaning
             to
             be
             ,
             that
             not
             the
             Church
             ,
             but
             the
             party
             offended
             ,
             is
             to
             avoid
             his
             company
             :
             taking
             the
             same
             to
             be
             meant
             ,
             2
             
               Thes.
            
             3.14
             .
             a
             place
             which
             I
             have
             also
             heard
             alledged
             for
             Church
             Dicipline
             ,
             and
             Censures
             .
          
        
         
           
             Divine
             .
          
           
             Though
             Mr.
             
               Prynne
            
             be
             a
             man
             much
             esteemed
             by
             me
             ,
             both
             for
             his
             sufferings
             ,
             and
             much
             good
             service
             done
             by
             him
             in
             the
             Church
             ,
             yet
             I
             must
             say
             ,
             he
             wrongs
             both
             the
             Truth
             and
             himself
             ,
             in
             taking
             upon
             him
             to
             goe
             against
             the
             whole
             current
             of
             Interpreters
             ,
             antient
             and
             moderne
             ,
             without
             any
             evidence
             of
             reason
             :
             and
             he
             must
             remember
             ,
             that
             in
             these
             particulars
             ,
             hee
             doth
             not
             so
             much
             oppose
             the
             Independents
             ,
             as
             all
             the
             Reformed
             Churches
             ,
             while
             as
             he
             goeth
             about
             to
             throw
             out
             of
             their
             hands
             the
             chief
             Scriptures
             upon
             which
             they
             ground
             Church
             Discipline
             .
             Now
             all
             the
             circumstances
             of
             the
             Text
             ,
             make
             against
             that
             Exposition
             ,
             and
             prove
             ,
             That
             it
             is
             not
             a
             Civill
             ,
             but
             a
             Spirituall
             Court
             ,
             which
             Christ
             there
             establisheth
             .
             For
             1.
             those
             words
             ,
             
               If
               thy
               Brother
               trespasse
               against
               thee
               ,
            
             are
             not
             ment
             of
             personall
             or
             civill
             injuries
             (
             of
             which
             our
             Saviour
             Christ
             would
             not
             be
             Judge
             ,
             
               Luke
            
             12.14
             .
             )
             but
             as
             
               Augustine
               ,
               Tostatus
               ,
            
             and
             others
             doe
             rightly
             expound
             them
             ,
             they
             are
             to
             be
             understood
             ,
             of
             all
             manner
             of
             scandalls
             ,
             by
             which
             we
             trespasse
             against
             our
             Brother
             ,
             in
             as
             much
             as
             we
             trespasse
             against
             the
             law
             of
             Charity
             ,
             which
             commandeth
             us
             to
             edify
             one
             another
             ,
             and
             to
             promote
             the
             spirituall
             good
             one
             of
             another
             :
             now
             when
             a
             Christian
             doth
             not
             only
             not
             edify
             ,
             but
             scandalize
             ,
             which
             is
             a
             deterioration
             ;
             yea
             ,
             (
             so
             farre
             as
             lieth
             in
             him
             )
             a
             destruction
             of
             his
             brothers
             soule
             ;
             this
             is
             undeniably
             a
             great
             trespasse
             against
             his
             brother
             :
             which
             kind
             of
             trespasse
             ,
             as
             the
             King
             ,
             and
             head
             of
             the
             Church
             ,
             Jesus
             Christ
             ,
             
             whose
             Kingdom
             is
             not
             of
             this
             World
             was
             to
             take
             speciall
             notice
             of
             :
             so
             the
             coherence
             and
             depend●nce
             of
             the
             Text
             ,
             giveth
             further
             evidence
             ,
             that
             this
             ,
             and
             no
             other
             kinde
             of
             trespasses
             is
             here
             intended
             ,
             there
             being
             so
             much
             spoken
             of
             scandalls
             in
             the
             preceeding
             passages
             of
             that
             Chapter
             .
          
           
             2.
             
             As
             the
             case
             supposed
             ,
             so
             the
             end
             proposed
             is
             spirituall
             ,
             that
             is
             ,
             that
             the
             offended
             brother
             should
             reprove
             the
             offanding
             brother
             ;
             and
             tell
             him
             his
             fault
             ,
             and
             that
             for
             the
             good
             of
             his
             soul
             :
             
               If
               he
               shall
               heare
               thee
               ,
               thou
               hast
               gained
               thy
               brother
            
             ;
             that
             is
             ,
             thou
             hast
             rescued
             his
             soule
             by
             Repentance
             ,
             from
             sinne
             ,
             and
             so
             from
             the
             wrath
             of
             God
             :
             wherein
             Christ
             had
             respect
             to
             that
             Law
             .
             
               Lev.
            
             19.17
             .
             
               Thou
               shalt
               not
               hate
               thy
               Brother
               in
               thy
               heart
               :
               thou
               shalt
               in
               any
               wise
               rebuke
               thy
               neighbour
               ,
               and
               not
               suffer
               sinne
               upon
               him
               .
            
          
           
             3.
             
             The
             persons
             judging
             ,
             are
             not
             civill
             but
             Ecclesiasticall
             ,
             
               Tell
               it
               unto
               the
               Church
               ,
            
             now
             in
             all
             the
             New
             Testament
             ,
             the
             name
             of
             the
             Church
             is
             not
             given
             to
             any
             Civill
             Magistrate
             .
             Nay
             Christ
             himself
             doth
             immediately
             give
             us
             notice
             ,
             that
             by
             the
             Church
             there
             he
             means
             the
             Ministers
             and
             Rulers
             of
             the
             Church
             ,
             for
             thus
             he
             applyeth
             it
             unto
             the
             Apostles
             ,
             and
             their
             successors
             ,
             
               Whatsoever
               ye
               shall
               binde
               ,
               &c.
            
             and
             
               if
               two
               of
               you
               shall
               agree
               ,
               &c.
               
            
             And
             here
             by
             the
             way
             ,
             I
             must
             tell
             you
             ,
             that
             if
             the
             Jewish
             Sanedrim
             were
             here
             mean●
             (
             as
             it
             is
             not
             )
             you
             could
             not
             thence
             conclude
             that
             a
             civill
             Court
             is
             meant
             ,
             for
             there
             was
             an
             Ecclesiastical
             Sanedrim
             ,
             distinct
             from
             the
             civill
             ,
             as
             beside
             many
             other
             great
             Authors
             is
             proved
             by
             
               Constantinus
               ,
               l'
               Emp.
               
               Annot.
               in
               C●●
               .
               Middoth
               ,
               p.
            
             188.
             and
             
               de
               Rep.
               
               Iud.
               p.
            
             389.
             
             Which
             Ecclesiasticall
             Sanedrim
             were
             the
             rather
             to
             be
             understood
             in
             this
             Text
             ,
             because
             the
             other
             Sanedrim
             was
             destroyed
             by
             
               Herod
               .
            
          
           
           
             4.
             
             The
             way
             and
             manner
             of
             proceeding
             ,
             is
             also
             Ecclesiasticall
             ,
             not
             civill
             ;
             when
             Church
             Governours
             meet
             about
             those
             things
             ,
             it
             must
             be
             with
             Prayer
             ,
             
               vers.
            
             19.
             and
             it
             must
             be
             in
             the
             Name
             of
             Christ
             ,
             
               vers.
            
             20.
             which
             places
             ,
             though
             they
             well
             agree
             to
             all
             holy
             Assemblies
             and
             meetings
             for
             Worship
             ,
             yet
             the
             context
             sheweth
             ,
             that
             they
             are
             principally
             intended
             concerning
             Assemblies
             for
             Discipline
             and
             Church
             censures
             ;
             and
             so
             
               Tostatus
               ,
               Hugo
               Cardinalis
               ,
            
             with
             our
             own
             Divines
             ,
             doe
             expound
             the
             Text
             .
          
           
             5.
             
             The
             censure
             is
             spirituall
             ,
             as
             appeareth
             both
             by
             the
             ●llusion
             to
             the
             Jewish
             Excommunication
             (
             of
             which
             I
             have
             spoken
             before
             )
             in
             those
             words
             ,
             
               let
               him
               be
               unto
               thee
               as
               a
               Heathen
               ,
               or
               a
               Publican
               ,
            
             and
             by
             the
             phrase
             of
             binding
             the
             soule
             ,
             or
             retaining
             of
             sinnes
             ,
             
               vers.
            
             18.
             which
             power
             ,
             our
             Lord
             elsewhere
             giveth
             to
             his
             Apostles
             ,
             
               Mat.
            
             16.19
             .
             
               Io.
            
             20.23
             .
             formes
             of
             speech
             ,
             which
             no where
             the
             Scripture
             useth
             of
             any
             civill
             power
             :
             only
             it
             is
             to
             be
             observed
             ,
             that
             in
             these
             two
             places
             last
             cited
             ,
             the
             Apostles
             get
             power
             to
             binde
             and
             loose
             by
             their
             Doctrine
             and
             Preaching
             ,
             but
             here
             ,
             
               Mat.
            
             18.
             to
             binde
             and
             loose
             by
             Discipline
             ,
             as
             appeareth
             by
             the
             use
             to
             be
             made
             of
             witnesses
             ,
             
               vers.
            
             16.
             that
             is
             ,
             
               potestas
               clavium
               doctrinalis
            
             :
             this
             
               potestas
               clavium
               disciplinalis
               .
            
             That
             is
             
               misticall
               :
            
             this
             
               politicall
               .
            
             And
             whereas
             it
             is
             objected
             ,
             that
             the
             Text
             saith
             not
             ,
             
               let
               him
               be
               to
               the
               Church
               ,
            
             but
             ,
             
               let
               him
               be
               to
               thee
               as
               an
               Heathen
               and
               a
               Publican
               .
            
             I
             answer
             ,
             it
             is
             supposed
             ,
             that
             he
             must
             be
             such
             in
             the
             judgement
             of
             the
             Church
             ,
             before
             he
             be
             such
             to
             me
             .
             This
             
               Pareus
            
             upon
             the
             place
             ,
             proveth
             from
             the
             words
             that
             follow
             ,
             
               Whatsoever
               ye
               shall
               bind
               ,
               &c.
            
             therefore
             saith
             he
             ,
             the
             Church
             is
             first
             to
             bind
             him
             ,
             that
             is
             ,
             Excommunicate
             him
             ,
             and
             then
             he
             is
             to
             be
             to
             me
             as
             an
             Heathen
             ,
             and
             a
             Publican
             .
             Beside
             ,
             if
             it
             were
             
             not
             so
             ,
             horrible
             confusion
             should
             follow
             ,
             while
             as
             any
             private
             man
             may
             Excommunicate
             and
             cast
             off
             whomsoever
             he
             judgeth
             to
             be
             disobedient
             to
             the
             Church
             ,
             though
             peradventure
             he
             hath
             no
             just
             cause
             to
             judge
             so
             .
          
           
             6.
             
             It
             was
             very
             farre
             from
             the
             minde
             of
             Jesus
             Christ
             ,
             that
             his
             Disciples
             should
             for
             private
             injuries
             prosecute
             one
             another
             ,
             before
             the
             Roman
             Emperour
             or
             his
             Deputie
             :
             This
             being
             so
             much
             blamed
             by
             the
             Apostle
             
               Paul
               .
            
             1
             
               Cor.
            
             6.1
             .
             
               Dare
               any
               of
               you
               ,
               having
               a
               matter
               against
               another
               ,
               got
               to
               law
               before
               the
               unjust
               ,
            
             vers.
             6
             ,
             7.
             
             
               Brother
               go●th
               to
               law
               against
               Brother
               ,
               and
               that
               before
               the
               unbeleavers
               .
               Now
               therefore
               ,
               there
               is
               utterly
               a
               fault
               amongst
               you
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             Civilian
             .
          
           
             Can
             you
             shew
             any
             example
             or
             practice
             of
             such
             an
             Excommunication
             in
             the
             New
             Testament
             :
             for
             that
             place
             ,
             1
             
               Cor.
            
             5.5
             .
             I
             doubt
             shall
             not
             prove
             ,
             there
             being
             not
             only
             great
             Authors
             ,
             but
             great
             reasons
             for
             another
             Exposition
             ,
             as
             
               Mo●li●s
            
             sheweth
             in
             his
             
               V●tes
               .
               l.
            
             2.
             
               tc
               .
            
             11.
             namely
             that
             this
             delivering
             to
             Sathan
             ,
             was
             for
             bodily
             afflictions
             and
             torments
             ,
             which
             was
             not
             in
             the
             power
             of
             ordinary
             Ministers
             to
             doe
             ,
             but
             was
             a
             Prerogative
             of
             the
             Apostles
             .
          
        
         
           
             Divine
             .
          
           
             If
             you
             will
             ,
             I
             can
             debate
             that
             with
             you
             ,
             both
             from
             that
             very
             Text
             ,
             and
             from
             other
             reasons
             ,
             that
             this
             delivering
             to
             Sathan
             ,
             was
             an
             act
             not
             of
             the
             Apostle
             alone
             ,
             but
             of
             the
             Presbytery
             of
             
               Corinth
               ,
            
             whereby
             is
             meant
             Excommunication
             ,
             which
             is
             a
             cutting
             off
             from
             the
             Fellowship
             of
             the
             Church
             ,
             and
             so
             co●sequ●ntly
             .
             ●
             delivering
             to
             Sathan
             ,
             who
             reignes
             without
             the
             Church
             ,
             and
             holdeth
             captive
             at
             his
             pleasure
             the
             children
             of
             disobedience
             .
             Or
             if
             you
             will
             ,
             I
             can
             take
             a
             shorter
             course
             with
             
             you
             .
             For
             whatsoever
             may
             be
             the
             meaning
             of
             that
             phrase
             ,
             
               tradere
               Satana
               ,
            
             it
             is
             most
             plaine
             ,
             that
             Excommunication
             is
             in
             that
             Chapter
             ,
             
               vers.
            
             6
             ,
             7.
             
             
               Know
               ye
               not
               ,
               that
               a
               little
               leaven
               leaveneth
               the
               whole
               lumpe
               ,
               purge
               out
               therefore
               the
               old
               leaven
               ,
            
             verse
             11.
             
             
               If
               any
               man
               that
               is
               called
               a
               Brother
               ,
               be
               a
               fornicatour
               ,
               &c.
               with
               su●h
               an
               one
               ,
               no
               no●
               to
               ●●●e
               .
            
             
             vers.
             12.
             
               doe
               not
               ye
               ●udge
               them
               that
               are
               within
               ,
            
             vers.
             13.
             
             
               Therefore
               put
               away
               from
               among
               your selves
               that
               wicked
               person
               .
            
             2
             
               Cor.
            
             2.6
             .
             
               Sufficient
               to
               such
               a
               man
               ,
               is
               this
               punishment
               or
               censure
               )
               inflicted
               by
               many
               .
            
             But
             I
             suppose
             ,
             I
             shall
             not
             need
             to
             prove
             Church-censures
             ,
             and
             Excommunication
             in
             the
             Church
             of
             
               C●rin●h
            
             :
             which
             
               Moulins
            
             himself
             doth
             fully
             acknowledge
             to
             be
             held
             forth
             in
             that
             same
             place
             .
          
        
         
           
             Civilian
             .
          
           
             I
             will
             thinke
             further
             upon
             these
             things
             .
          
        
         
           
             Devine
             .
          
           
             You
             may
             doe
             so
             ,
             and
             withall
             ,
             read
             what
             〈◊〉
             hath
             written
             against
             
               Erastus
               ,
            
             and
             
               Wala●●
            
             against
             
               Wite●●ogardus
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             Civilian
             .
          
           
             But
             tell
             me
             now
             your
             opinion
             of
             another
             matter
             ,
             and
             that
             is
             concerning
             liberty
             of
             Conscience
             ,
             and
             toleration
             of
             Hereticks
             and
             Se●taries
             for
             which
             there
             are
             so
             many
             bookes
             written
             of
             late
             ,
             and
             so
             few
             against
             i●
             ▪
             I
             doe
             not
             know
             what
             you
             will
             pronounce
             of
             it
             ,
             from
             the
             Principles
             of
             your
             Profession
             ,
             but
             I
             beleeve
             ,
             that
             as
             in
             
               Germany
               ,
               France
               ,
               Holland
               ,
               Poland
               ,
            
             yea
             under
             the
             Turkish
             Tyranny
             ,
             contrary
             religions
             ,
             and
             opposite
             professions
             and
             practises
             ,
             have
             been
             ,
             and
             are
             tolerated
             upon
             State-principles
             ,
             so
             it
             shall
             be
             
               Englands
            
             unhappinesse
             ,
             though
             not
             to
             chose
             ,
             yet
             to
             be
             necessitated
             to
             grant
             such
             a
             tolleration
             ,
             for
             avoiding
             a
             rupture
             in
             the
             Kingdome
             ,
             
             and
             for
             preserving
             an
             Union
             against
             the
             common
             Enenmy
             .
          
        
         
           
             Divine
             .
          
           
             This
             Question
             about
             the
             Toleration
             of
             those
             whose
             way
             is
             different
             from
             the
             common
             rule
             which
             shall
             be
             established
             ,
             must
             be
             both
             stated
             and
             resolved
             ,
             
               cum
               ●rano
               salis
               .
            
             We
             must
             remember
             to
             distinguish
             person●
             from
             Corporations
             or
             Churches
             ,
             and
             both
             these
             from
             errors
             .
             Againe
             ,
             to
             distinguish
             persons
             ,
             wh●ther
             godly
             and
             gratious
             ,
             or
             loose
             and
             libertin
             ,
             whether
             moderate
             and
             peaceable
             ,
             or
             ●actious
             and
             turbulent
             ;
             whether
             such
             as
             have
             deserved
             well
             o●
             the
             publike
             ,
             or
             such
             as
             have
             done
             either
             no
             service
             or
             a
             disservice
             .
             To
             distinguish
             Corporation
             ,
             whether
             the
             Qu●stion
             be
             of
             such
             onely
             as
             have
             a
             present
             existence
             ,
             or
             of
             all
             who
             shall
             joyne
             to
             such
             a
             way
             afterward
             .
             To
             distinguish
             err●rs
             ,
             whether
             Practicall
             or
             Doctrinall
             onel●
             ▪
             whether
             fundamentall
             ,
             or
             circafundamentall
             ,
             or
             neither
             of
             the
             two
             .
             To
             distinguish
             Toleration
             ,
             whether
             absolute
             ,
             or
             Hypotheticall
             and
             conditionall
             ,
             whether
             anywhere
             ,
             or
             in
             som●
             few
             certaine
             places
             onely
             ,
             whether
             indifinite
             and
             generall
             ,
             or
             limited
             and
             bounded
             ,
             and
             if
             bounded
             ,
             how
             far
             and
             how
             much
             :
             Whether
             ●uch
             Toleration
             as
             may
             stand
             with
             the
             solemne
             league
             and
             Covenant
             ,
             or
             such
             as
             is
             inconsistent
             therewith
             ;
             whether
             such
             as
             is
             profitable
             for
             the
             publike
             peace
             ,
             or
             such
             as
             is
             apparently
             destructive
             thereto
             .
             These
             and
             the
             like
             particulars
             I
             doe
             not
             intend
             to
             fall
             upon
             at
             this
             instant
             .
             Only
             this
             I
             say
             ,
             that
             to
             open
             a
             wide
             doore
             ,
             and
             to
             grant
             an
             unbounded
             liberty
             unto
             all
             sort
             of
             Hereticks
             and
             Sect●ries
             ,
             (
             which
             is
             the
             thing
             that
             
               the
               good
               Samaritan
               ,
            
             and
             
               Iohn
               the
               Baptist
               ,
               the
               blood
               ,
               Tenent
               ,
            
             and
             others
             of
             that
             kind
             do
             plead
             for
             as
             it
             is
             inconsistent
             with
             the
             solemne
             league
             and
             Covenant
             
             of
             the
             three
             Kingdomes
             ,
             by
             which
             we
             are
             obliged
             to
             endeavour
             the
             extirpation
             of
             Popery
             ,
             Prelacie
             ,
             Superstition
             ,
             Heresie
             and
             Schism●
             ,
             least
             we
             partake
             in
             other
             mens
             sinnes
             ,
             and
             thereby
             be
             in
             danger
             to
             receive
             of
             their
             plagues
             :
             So
             it
             is
             in
             the
             owne
             nature
             of
             it
             ,
             an
             error
             so
             pernicious
             ,
             so
             abominable
             ,
             so
             monst●ous
             ,
             that
             it
             maketh
             all
             learned
             men
             to
             stand
             amazed
             ,
             and
             taken
             with
             horrour
             ,
             in
             so
             much
             that
             they
             can
             not
             at
             first
             gather
             their
             thoughts
             to
             put
             pen
             to
             paper
             against
             it
             .
             I
             know
             this
             liberty
             and
             Toleration
             was
             maintained
             by
             the
             
               Donatists
            
             of
             old
             and
             by
             the
             
               Socinians
               ,
               Arminians
               ,
            
             and
             
               Anabaptists
            
             of
             late
             ▪
             but
             it
             hath
             beene
             constantly
             opposed
             by
             all
             that
             were
             sound
             and
             orthodoxe
             ,
             both
             Ancient
             and
             Moderne
             ,
             who
             have
             asserted
             the
             lawfull
             use
             of
             a
             coercive
             powe●
             against
             those
             things
             ,
             whereby
             (
             though
             under
             pretence
             of
             conscience
             )
             God
             is
             openly
             dishonoured
             ,
             soules
             ensnared
             and
             destroyed
             ,
             faith
             or
             piety
             subverted
             and
             overthrowne
             :
             and
             further
             ,
             the
             compelling
             of
             the
             outward
             man
             ,
             though
             not
             to
             the
             practise
             of
             things
             indifferent
             (
             which
             compulsion
             I
             doe
             not
             allow
             )
             yet
             to
             the
             practise
             of
             necessary
             duties
             ,
             and
             to
             the
             externall
             use
             of
             meanes
             and
             ordinances
             ,
             by
             which
             through
             the
             blessing
             of
             God
             ,
             mens
             hearts
             and
             consciences
             may
             be
             savingly
             affected
             and
             wrought
             upon
             .
             And
             I
             beseech
             you
             what
             else
             meaneth
             
               Asa's
            
             Covenant
             ,
             
             
               That
               whosoever
               would
               not
               seeke
               the
               Lord
               God
               of
               Israel
               should
               be
               put
               to
               death
               whether
               small
               or
               great
               ,
            
             
             
               whether
               man
               or
               woman
               .
            
             And
             what
             else
             meaneth
             
               Iosiahs
            
             Covenant
             ,
             
             whereof
             it
             is
             said
             ,
             
               he
               caused
               all
               that
               were
               present
               in
               Ierusalem
               and
               Benjamin
               ,
               to
               stand
               to
               it
               .
            
             And
             what
             else
             is
             that
             in
             
               Ezra
               ,
            
             that
             whosoever
             would
             not
             come
             to
             
               Ierusalem
            
             to
             make
             a
             Covenant
             ,
             and
             to
             put
             away
             the
             strange
             wives
             ,
             all
             his
             substance
             should
             be
             forfeited
             ,
             and
             
               himselfe
               separated
               from
               the
               Congregation
               
               of
               those
               that
               had
               beene
               carried
               away
               ,
            
             that
             is
             ,
             Excommunicated
             .
             And
             what
             else
             is
             that
             other
             act
             of
             
               Iosiah
            
             in
             putting
             downe
             the
             Priests
             of
             the
             high
             Places
             .
             
             And
             what
             say
             you
             to
             the
             Law
             of
             stoning
             those
             who
             did
             intice
             the
             people
             to
             turne
             out
             of
             the
             way
             wherein
             the
             Lord
             commanded
             them
             to
             walke
             ,
             
             saying
             ,
             
               Let
               us
               goe
               after
               other
               Gods
               and
               serve
               them
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             Civilian
             .
          
           
             I
             would
             rather
             heare
             some
             Arguments
             from
             the
             New
             Testament
             ,
             for
             I
             doubt
             these
             from
             the
             Old
             Testament
             shall
             be
             more
             subject
             to
             exception
             .
          
        
         
           
             Divine
             .
          
           
             To
             me
             it
             is
             plaine
             ,
             that
             these
             things
             doe
             as
             much
             concerne
             us
             now
             ,
             as
             the
             Jewes
             of
             old
             ,
             which
             whosoever
             denieth
             ,
             must
             shew
             ,
             that
             either
             we
             may
             take
             no
             rules
             nor
             patternes
             from
             the
             Old
             Testament
             :
             or
             that
             the
             foresaid
             Lawes
             and
             practises
             were
             not
             intended
             by
             the
             holy
             Ghost
             to
             binde
             us
             ,
             (
             as
             other
             things
             in
             the
             Old
             Testament
             doe
             )
             but
             were
             ceremoniall
             and
             typicall
             ,
             intended
             to
             bind
             the
             Jewes
             onely
             .
             Mr.
             
               Williams
            
             in
             his
             
               bloody
               Tenant
            
             (
             though
             I
             doe
             not
             remember
             that
             anywhere
             he
             answereth
             to
             those
             particular
             passages
             which
             I
             have
             cited
             ,
             yet
             )
             perceiving
             that
             such
             arguments
             from
             the
             Old
             Testament
             can
             not
             be
             taken
             off
             without
             this
             answer
             ,
             that
             all
             these
             were
             typicall
             and
             figurative
             :
             he
             therefore
             goeth
             much
             upon
             that
             ground
             ,
             and
             so
             deviseth
             more
             types
             and
             figures
             in
             the
             Old
             Testament
             then
             ever
             any body
             did
             before
             him
             ,
             and
             pleaseth
             himselfe
             with
             such
             fancies
             and
             conjectures
             therein
             ,
             as
             I
             dare
             say
             ,
             will
             satisfie
             no
             indifferent
             Reader
             :
             and
             in
             effect
             making
             void
             by
             his
             principles
             all
             arguments
             from
             the
             Old
             Testament
             ,
             so
             that
             we
             may
             not
             from
             the
             examples
             of
             the
             godly
             Kings
             of
             
               Iudah
               ,
            
             teach
             Christian
             Magistrates
             what
             their
             duty
             
             is
             ,
             nor
             argue
             thus
             ,
             God
             commanded
             that
             the
             Kings
             of
             
               Iudah
            
             should
             have
             a
             copy
             of
             the
             Book
             of
             the
             Law
             by
             them
             ,
             and
             read
             therein
             ,
             that
             they
             should
             not
             multiply
             wives
             ,
             &c.
             
             Therefore
             Christian
             Princes
             should
             search
             the
             Scriptures
             ,
             
             should
             not
             multiply
             wives
             ,
             &c.
             or
             thus
             .
             The
             Priests
             and
             Levites
             had
             a
             sufficient
             maintenance
             .
             Therefore
             so
             should
             the
             Ministers
             of
             the
             Gospell
             :
             or
             thus
             ;
             The
             Jewes
             were
             commanded
             to
             rest
             from
             all
             servile
             labour
             on
             the
             Sabbath
             day
             .
             Therefore
             so
             should
             Christians
             on
             the
             Lords
             day
             :
             or
             thus
             ;
             Warres
             were
             lawfull
             in
             the
             old
             Testament
             ;
             Therefore
             they
             are
             lawfull
             still
             .
             Or
             the
             like
             .
             All
             these
             shall
             be
             cast
             aside
             ,
             upon
             this
             ground
             ,
             they
             were
             tipicall
             ,
             therefore
             no
             patterns
             to
             us
             .
          
           
             But
             because
             you
             desire
             an
             Argument
             from
             the
             New
             Testament
             :
             I
             will
             convince
             your
             judgement
             from
             thence
             also
             :
             Sure
             I
             am
             ,
             I
             have
             better
             grounds
             in
             the
             New
             Testament
             ,
             against
             the
             Toleration
             now
             in
             question
             ,
             then
             Master
             
               Iohn
               Goodwin
            
             hath
             found
             for
             it
             ,
             in
             his
             Text
             ,
             
               Act.
            
             5.38.39
             .
             He
             holdeth
             that
             we
             may
             build
             upon
             
               Gamaliels
            
             speech
             ,
             as
             Authorised
             by
             God
             ,
             
               there
               being
               nothing
               in
               all
               this
               speech
               (
               excepting
               only
               the
               Historicall
               Instances
               ,
               the
               truth
               of
               which
               ,
               it
               seems
               was
               generally
               known
               ,
               and
               is
               attested
               by
               Iosephus
               their
               great
               Historian
               )
               but
               what
               is
               fully
               consonant
               with
               the
               Word
               of
               God
               ,
            
             saith
             he
             .
             And
             so
             he
             approveth
             the
             Sceptik
             Principles
             of
             that
             Nullifidian
             ,
             who
             razeth
             the
             very
             foundation
             of
             the
             Christian
             Faith
             ,
             and
             maketh
             it
             a
             very
             doubtfull
             case
             whether
             the
             Apostles
             Doctrine
             was
             from
             God
             ,
             or
             from
             men
             .
             But
             I
             proceed
             to
             my
             Arguments
             .
             First
             ,
             you
             shall
             doe
             well
             to
             remember
             what
             I
             said
             concerning
             Church
             censutes
             ,
             from
             
               Matth.
            
             18.
             under
             which
             scandalous
             and
             obstinate
             delinquents
             ,
             doe
             fall
             ,
             the
             pretence
             of
             Conscience
             ,
             being
             no
             
             exception
             for
             them
             .
             The
             Ministers
             of
             the
             Gospel
             
               have
               in
               readinesse
               to
               revenge
               all
               disobedience
               ,
            
             2
             Cor.
             10.6
             .
             The
             Angel
             of
             the
             Church
             of
             
               Ephesus
            
             is
             commended
             ,
             because
             of
             his
             zeal
             ,
             in
             that
             he
             could
             not
             beare
             those
             who
             called
             themselves
             Apostles
             and
             were
             not
             .
             
               Revel.
            
             2.2
             .
             Contrariwise
             ,
             the
             Angel
             of
             the
             Church
             of
             
               Perga●●●
            
             is
             blamed
             ,
             for
             this
             reason
             ,
             
               because
               then
               hast
               there
               them
               that
               teach
               the
               doctrine
               of
               Balaam
               ,
               &c.
               so
               hast
               thou
               also
               them
               that
               hold
               the
               doctrine
               of
               the
               Nicolaitans
               .
               Revel.
            
             2.14.15
             .
             that
             is
             ,
             because
             thou
             hast
             tolerated
             them
             ,
             and
             hast
             not
             cast
             them
             out
             .
             It
             is
             thy
             fault
             ,
             that
             they
             are
             there
             in
             the
             Church
             .
             The
             like
             challenge
             is
             sent
             to
             the
             Angel
             of
             the
             Church
             of
             
               Thyatira
               ,
            
             vers.
             20.
             
             
               I
               have
               a
               few
               things
               against
               thee
               ,
               because
               thou
               sufferedst
               that
               woman
               Iezebell
               ,
               who
               calleth
               her self
               a
               Prophetesse
               ,
               to
               teach
               ,
               and
               to
               seduce
               my
               servants
               ,
               &c.
               
            
             That
             chapter
             is
             so
             cleare
             for
             the
             point
             ,
             that
             Master
             
               Williams
            
             acknowledgeth
             it
             proves
             fully
             ,
             that
             Christ
             hath
             endued
             the
             Ministers
             and
             Governours
             of
             his
             Church
             ,
             with
             power
             to
             suppresse
             Heresy
             and
             errour
             ,
             and
             the
             spreaders
             thereof
             ,
             be
             who
             they
             will
             be
             .
             See
             
               the
               bloody
               Tenent
               .
               c.
            
             57.
             
             So
             
               Iohn
               the
               Baptist
               .
               pag.
            
             63.
             confesseth
             that
             the
             Church
             of
             
               Thy●●ra
            
             was
             justly
             taxed
             ,
             not
             only
             for
             not
             controuling
             and
             reproving
             
               Iexebel
               ,
            
             but
             also
             ,
             
               in
               that
               they
               permitted
               her
               to
               seduce
               weak
               Christians
               ,
               without
               cutting
               her
               off
               by
               the
               sword
               of
               the
               Spirit
               ,
               the
               power
               of
               excommunication
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             Civilian
             .
          
           
             I
             was
             about
             to
             answer
             the
             same
             ,
             that
             if
             those
             places
             prove
             any
             thing
             ,
             it
             is
             onely
             the
             suppressing
             of
             Hereticks
             and
             Schismaticks
             by
             Church
             censures
             ,
             not
             at
             all
             by
             the
             civill
             coercive
             power
             of
             the
             Magistrate
             .
          
        
         
           
             Divine
             .
          
           
             I
             thought
             with
             my selfe
             ,
             I
             should
             neede
             say
             no
             more
             ,
             
             having
             proved
             that
             Heriticks
             and
             Shismaticks
             ,
             though
             miscarrying
             with
             so
             much
             opinion
             of
             conscience
             ,
             as
             to
             thinke
             themselves
             Apostles
             or
             Prophets
             ,
             may
             be
             censured
             and
             cast
             out
             of
             the
             Church
             (
             which
             is
             the
             case
             ,
             
               Revel.
            
             2.
             )
             I
             did
             never
             imagine
             but
             where
             the
             soule
             is
             punished
             with
             the
             greatest
             punishment
             which
             can
             be
             inflicted
             on
             earth
             ,
             that
             is
             ,
             Excomunication
             ;
             much
             more
             may
             the
             body
             be
             punished
             by
             the
             Magistrate
             ,
             as
             the
             degree
             of
             the
             offence
             shall
             require
             :
             especially
             considering
             that
             the
             Magistrat
             is
             a
             nursing
             father
             to
             the
             Church
             ,
             
             and
             is
             to
             protect
             and
             assist
             her
             ,
             not
             to
             suffer
             her
             authority
             and
             censures
             to
             be
             despised
             and
             set
             at
             nought
             .
             But
             to
             satisfie
             you
             yet
             more
             touching
             the
             Magistrats
             part
             ,
             consider
             well
             that
             passage
             
               Rom.
            
             13.4
             .
             
               For
               he
               is
               the
               Minister
               of
               God
               to
               thee
               for
               good
               ,
               but
               if
               thou
               doe
               that
               which
               is
               evill
               be
               afraid
               ,
               for
               he
               beareth
               not
               the
               sword
               in
               vaine
               :
               for
               he
               is
               the
               Minister
               of
               God
               ,
               a
               revenger
               to
               execute
               wrath
               upon
               him
               that
               doth
               evill
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             Civilian
             .
          
           
             This
             place
             and
             all
             that
             you
             can
             say
             in
             that
             kind
             doth
             not
             warrant
             nor
             iustifie
             persecution
             ,
             for
             the
             cause
             of
             conscience
             ,
             but
             onely
             the
             punishment
             of
             all
             such
             evill
             doers
             as
             doe
             disturbe
             the
             peace
             of
             the
             Kingdome
             ,
             or
             the
             course
             of
             civill
             justice
             ,
             oppose
             Magistrats
             or
             lawes
             ,
             traitors
             ,
             rebells
             ,
             murtherers
             ,
             felons
             ,
             and
             the
             like
             .
             
               Iohn
               the
               Baptist
               pag.
            
             57.
             saith
             ,
             
               If
               a
               breach
               of
               peace
               ,
               the
               civill
               powers
               ought
               to
               redresse
               it
               .
            
             1.
             
               Tim.
            
             2.1.2
             .
             
               But
               for
               the
               Magistrate
               to
               interpose
               in
               matters
               meerly
               Ecclesiasticall
               ,
               otherwise
               then
               spiritually
               ,
               and
               as
               a
               Minister
               of
               the
               Gospell
               ,
               I
               find
               no
               warrant
               for
               it
               ,
               in
               all
               the
               Gospel
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             Divine
             
          
           
             Now
             you
             are
             come
             to
             your
             last
             refuge
             wherein
             I
             know
             you
             put
             great
             confidence
             :
             but
             I
             am
             as
             confident
             
             it
             cannot
             serve
             your
             turne
             ,
             which
             I
             prove
             thus
             ,
             1.
             
             By
             this
             Tenent
             you
             give
             a
             more
             dangerous
             wound
             to
             the
             power
             of
             the
             civill
             Magistrate
             then
             you
             are
             aware
             of
             ,
             for
             in
             stead
             of
             m●king
             him
             keeper
             of
             both
             Tables
             you
             make
             him
             keeper
             of
             the
             second
             Table
             on●ly
             ,
             at
             least
             
               vindex
            
             of
             ●
             onely
             ,
             whereas
             God
             hath
             made
             him
             as
             well
             
               vindex
            
             as
             
               Custos
               utriusque
               Tabula
               .
            
             2.
             
             In
             t●e
             place
             I
             last
             cited
             ,
             the
             Apostle
             maketh
             no
             exception
             nor
             restriction
             ,
             but
             will
             have
             all
             evill
             doers
             (
             to
             which
             category
             I
             suppose
             Heretickes
             and
             Sedu●ers
             doe
             belong
             to
             be
             afraid
             of
             vengeance
             by
             the
             hand
             of
             the
             Magistrate
             .
             
             3.
             
             The
             Apostle
             there
             doth
             once
             and
             againe
             call
             the
             Magistrate
             ,
             
               The
               Minister
               of
               God
               ,
            
             as
             it
             were
             purposely
             putting
             him
             in
             mind
             ,
             that
             he
             judgeth
             not
             for
             man
             but
             for
             the
             Lord
             ,
             and
             that
             he
             is
             to
             looke
             most
             to
             things
             pertaining
             to
             God
             .
             4.
             
             There
             may
             be
             a
             coincidencie
             of
             those
             things
             which
             you
             put
             assunder
             :
             for
             example
             ,
             suppose
             a
             Jesuite
             killing
             a
             Magistrate
             ▪
             or
             some
             other
             Hereticke
             killing
             one
             who
             hath
             beene
             most
             opposite
             to
             him
             ;
             or
             as
             sometime
             the
             case
             was
             )
             suppose
             men
             causing
             their
             children
             to
             goe
             through
             the
             f●re
             as
             a
             sacrifice
             to
             their
             God
             
               Molech
               ,
            
             
             all
             these
             (
             though
             murthers
             )
             ye●●re
             done
             for
             Conscience
             sake
             ,
             men
             being
             perswaded
             in
             their
             conscience
             ,
             that
             they
             are
             doing
             good
             service
             to
             God
             ,
             as
             it
             is
             said
             of
             those
             that
             killed
             the
             Apostles
             .
             What
             say
             you
             to
             that
             case
             ▪
             shall
             the
             punishment
             of
             those
             be
             persecution
             for
             the
             cause
             of
             Co●science
             .
             5.
             
             I
             cannot
             marvell
             enough
             ,
             that
             it
             should
             be
             heard
             from
             the
             mo●th
             of
             any
             Christian
             ,
             that
             the
             Magistrate
             is
             to
             pun
             sh
             injuries
             done
             to
             the
             State
             ,
             but
             not
             injuries
             done
             to
             the
             Chur●h
             ▪
             that
             he
             is
             to
             punish
             those
             who
             destroy
             mens
             bodies
             ,
             but
             not
             those
             that
             destroy
             mens
             soules
             :
             that
             whosoever
             will
             draw
             away
             people
             from
             the
             obedience
             of
             the
             Magistrate
             ,
             and
             of
             the
             law
             of
             the
             Land
             ,
             must
             not
             
             be
             suffered
             :
             but
             they
             who
             will
             draw
             away
             people
             from
             the
             truth
             of
             the
             Gospel
             ,
             
             and
             from
             the
             wayes
             of
             God
             ,
             such
             as
             
               Hymeneus
            
             and
             
               Philetus
               ,
            
             who
             
               overthrow
               the
               faith
               of
               some
               ,
            
             
             
               and
               their
               word
               will
               eat
               ,
               as
               doth
               a
               canker
               ,
            
             must
             escape
             unpunished
             .
             And
             so
             Christian
             Magistrates
             and
             States
             ,
             shall
             take
             up
             the
             maxime
             which
             
               Tacitus
            
             tells
             was
             holden
             by
             
               Tyberius
               Caesar
               ,
               Deorum
               injurias
               Diis
               cura
               esse
            
             :
             but
             for
             their
             part
             ,
             they
             shall
             stand
             by
             as
             
               Gallio
            
             did
             ,
             and
             
               care
               for
               none
               of
               those
               things
               .
            
             Be
             astonished
             at
             this
             ,
             O
             ye
             heavens
             .
          
        
         
           
             Civilian
             .
          
           
             But
             in
             the
             meane
             time
             I
             can
             tell
             you
             one
             thing
             ,
             that
             it
             is
             a
             mighty
             prejudice
             that
             lies
             in
             the
             mindes
             of
             many
             against
             the
             Prysbetery
             ,
             that
             tyranny
             and
             rigour
             doe
             accompany
             it
             .
             And
             this
             now
             bringeth
             into
             my
             minde
             some
             other
             prejudices
             .
             I
             have
             seene
             a
             Booke
             come
             from
             
               Oxford
               ,
            
             entituled
             ,
             
               An
               Answer
               by
               Letter
               to
               a
               worthy
               Gentleman
               ,
               who
               desired
               of
               a
               Divine
               some
               reasons
               ,
               by
               which
               it
               might
               appeare
               how
               inconsistent
               Presbyteriall
               Government
               is
               with
               Monarchy
               .
            
             In
             which
             I
             finde
             many
             things
             which
             breed
             an
             
               Odium
            
             of
             that
             Government
             .
             Among
             other
             things
             ,
             it
             tells
             me
             ,
             
             that
             this
             is
             one
             of
             the
             Articles
             of
             the
             Presbyterian
             faith
             .
             
               No
               Minister
               preaching
               in
               Publike
               ,
               sedition
               or
               Treason
               or
               railing
               at
               King
               ,
               Councell
               ,
               the
               Prince
               ,
               Iudges
               ,
               is
               accountable
               ,
               or
               punishable
               by
               King
               ,
               Parliament
               ,
               Councell
               ,
               or
               any
               Indicature
               whatsoever
               .
               But
               from
               all
               hee
               may
               appeale
               to
               the
               Sanhedrum
               or
               Consistory
               ,
            
             
             
               as
               the
               sole
               and
               proper
               competent
               Iudge
               .
            
             And
             as
             if
             this
             were
             a
             small
             thing
             not
             to
             subject
             to
             the
             Magisteate
             ,
             they
             will
             have
             the
             Magistrate
             subject
             to
             them
             ,
             insomuch
             that
             they
             may
             excommunicate
             the
             Magistrate
             ,
             even
             the
             King
             himselfe
             if
             he
             obey
             them
             not
             :
             That
             the
             Presbytery
             hindereth
             the
             liberty
             of
             trade
             and
             commerce
             ,
             
             disgraceth
             and
             desameth
             young
             women
             for
             conversing
             familiarly
             with
             
             men
             ,
             suffereth
             not
             Land-Lords
             to
             sue
             for
             their
             rents
             ,
             and
             the
             like
             .
             That
             they
             bring
             all
             cases
             and
             causes
             under
             their
             cognition
             and
             judgement
             ,
             
               sub
               formalitate
               scandali
               ,
            
             under
             the
             notion
             of
             scandall
             ,
             and
             for
             the
             glory
             of
             God
             .
             It
             tells
             also
             a
             number
             of
             Stories
             and
             practicall
             examples
             for
             confirmation
             of
             those
             particulars
             .
             What
             say
             you
             to
             that
             ?
          
        
         
           
             Divine
             .
          
           
             I
             have
             seen
             and
             read
             the
             book
             ,
             which
             surely
             was
             written
             by
             the
             speciall
             inspiration
             of
             the
             father
             of
             lies
             ,
             that
             the
             ●mple
             people
             who
             never
             yet
             sawe
             a
             Presbytery
             ,
             may
             be
             made
             afraid
             of
             it
             ,
             as
             of
             some
             hellish
             monster
             ,
             as
             the
             French
             Friars
             made
             the
             people
             beleeve
             ,
             that
             the
             
               Hugonots
            
             were
             ugly
             monsters
             with
             Swines
             faces
             ,
             and
             Asses
             eares
             .
             But
             men
             of
             understanding
             will
             not
             be
             taken
             with
             such
             bold
             and
             shamelesse
             calumnies
             as
             come
             from
             the
             pen
             of
             that
             son
             of
             Belial
             .
             I
             could
             name
             both
             the
             Author
             ,
             and
             the
             lying
             Records
             of
             a
             persecuting
             Prelate
             ,
             whence
             he
             borrowed
             his
             stories
             ,
             in
             which
             there
             are
             many
             known
             untruths
             ;
             and
             where
             there
             is
             any
             truth
             in
             the
             matters
             of
             fact
             which
             he
             relates
             ,
             there
             is
             such
             addition
             of
             his
             own
             Interpretations
             of
             mens
             actions
             ,
             such
             variation
             of
             circumstances
             ,
             and
             such
             concealing
             of
             the
             true
             grounds
             ,
             ends
             ,
             and
             circumstances
             of
             such
             actions
             ,
             as
             maketh
             them
             to
             appear
             quite
             another
             thing
             then
             they
             were
             .
             And
             if
             his
             stories
             of
             the
             speeches
             ,
             actions
             ,
             or
             opinions
             of
             particular
             men
             were
             all
             true
             (
             as
             they
             are
             not
             )
             yet
             how
             doth
             that
             prove
             that
             Presbyteriall
             government
             is
             inconsistent
             with
             Monarchy
             .
             Magistracie
             ,
             Laws
             ,
             Trading
             ,
             Peace
             .
             &c.
             This
             must
             be
             proved
             from
             the
             principles
             or
             necessarie
             concomitants
             of
             Presbyteriall
             government
             ,
             not
             from
             the
             actions
             or
             speeches
             of
             this
             or
             that
             private
             man
             ,
             especially
             they
             having
             so
             said
             or
             done
             not
             in
             any
             reference
             to
             Presbyteriall
             
             Government
             ,
             but
             occasionally
             in
             reference
             to
             such
             or
             such
             persons
             or
             purposes
             .
             As
             now
             if
             I
             should
             rake
             up
             the
             dunghill
             of
             all
             the
             Treasons
             ,
             Conspiracies
             ,
             Oppressions
             ,
             Persecutions
             ,
             Adulteries
             ,
             Blasphemies
             ,
             Heresies
             ,
             Atheisticall
             opinions
             ,
             Superstitions
             ,
             Prophanities
             of
             such
             or
             such
             Prelates
             ,
             (
             of
             which
             the
             Histories
             of
             former
             times
             and
             late
             experience
             are
             full
             )
             and
             thence
             conclude
             that
             Episcopall
             government
             is
             inconsistent
             with
             Monarchy
             ,
             with
             the
             safety
             of
             the
             Kingdome
             ,
             with
             the
             liberty
             of
             the
             Subject
             ,
             with
             the
             peace
             of
             the
             Church
             ,
             with
             piety
             ,
             &c.
             
             
             Surely
             that
             same
             Author
             would
             be
             ready
             to
             answer
             me
             ,
             that
             this
             must
             be
             proved
             from
             their
             received
             principles
             ,
             nor
             from
             particular
             practises
             .
             Now
             that
             Ministers
             preaching
             Treason
             ,
             
             or
             committing
             any
             other
             trespasse
             punishable
             by
             the
             law
             of
             the
             land
             ,
             is
             not
             to
             be
             judged
             by
             the
             Civill
             Magistrate
             ,
             nor
             any
             Civill
             Court
             ,
             but
             may
             appeale
             from
             all
             these
             to
             the
             Ecclesiasticall
             Judicatory
             ,
             is
             none
             of
             our
             principles
             :
             but
             it
             is
             a
             Popish
             and
             Prelaticall
             usurpation
             ,
             as
             appeareth
             by
             the
             Brittish
             Ecclesiasticall
             constitutions
             ,
             collected
             by
             
               Spel●●an
               .
            
             So
             that
             the
             
               Oxfordian
            
             missed
             his
             mark
             extreamly
             when
             he
             charged
             it
             upon
             Presbyterians
             ,
             who
             hold
             that
             Ministers
             are
             as
             much
             subject
             unto
             ,
             and
             as
             punishable
             by
             the
             Magistrate
             ,
             as
             any
             other
             of
             the
             Subjects
             .
             And
             as
             Ministers
             are
             subject
             to
             every
             ordinance
             of
             man
             ,
             so
             we
             suppose
             the
             Christian
             Magistrate
             will
             not
             take
             it
             ill
             to
             be
             subject
             to
             all
             the
             ordinances
             of
             Jesus
             Christ
             ,
             I
             shall
             give
             you
             a
             short
             but
             
             clear
             account
             of
             our
             judgement
             concerning
             both
             these
             ,
             in
             the
             words
             of
             the
             second
             book
             of
             the
             Discipline
             of
             the
             Church
             of
             
               Scotland
               ,
               Chap.
               1.
               
               As
               Ministers
               are
               subject
               to
               the
               judgement
               and
               punishment
               of
               the
               Magistrate
               in
               externall
               things
               ,
               if
               they
               offend
               :
               so
               ought
               the
               Magistrates
               to
               submit
               themselves
               to
               the
               Discipline
               of
               the
               Church
               ,
               if
               they
               transgresse
               in
               matters
               of
               C●●science
               and
               Religion
               .
            
             And
             lest
             you
             should
             think
             this
             proper
             to
             the
             Classicall
             and
             Synodicall
             government
             :
             M.
             
               Cotton
            
             will
             tell
             you
             it
             is
             just
             so
             in
             the
             Congregationall
             government
             ,
             
               of
               the
               keyes
               of
               the
               Kingdome
               of
               heaven
               ,
               pag.
               53.
               
               As
               the
               Church
            
             (
             saith
             he
             )
             
               is
               subject
               to
               the
               sword
               of
               the
               Magistrate
               in
               things
               which
               concerne
               the
               Civill
               Peace
               :
               so
               the
               Magistrate
            
             (
             if
             Christian
             )
             
               is
               subject
               to
               the
               keyes
               of
               the
               Church
               ,
               in
               matters
               which
               concerne
               the
               peace
               of
               his
               conscience
               ,
               and
               the
               Kingdom
               of
               heaven
               .
            
             The
             latter
             cannot
             bee
             denied
             
               in
               thesi
               ,
            
             no
             more
             then
             the
             former
             :
             and
             when
             it
             comes
             to
             the
             
               Hypothesis
               ,
            
             there
             is
             much
             to
             bee
             trusted
             to
             the
             prudence
             and
             discretion
             of
             Pastors
             and
             ruling
             Elders
             ;
             and
             when
             all
             comes
             to
             all
             ,
             the
             failing
             is
             more
             like
             to
             be
             in
             the
             defect
             ,
             then
             in
             the
             excesse
             .
             But
             to
             say
             ,
             that
             a
             Magistrate
             ,
             because
             a
             Magistrate
             ,
             is
             not
             bound
             in
             conscience
             to
             submit
             himselfe
             to
             the
             ordinance
             of
             Discipline
             ,
             though
             he
             shedde
             innocent
             blood
             ,
             commit
             adultery
             ,
             bl●spheame
             the
             name
             of
             God
             ,
             
               &c.
            
             may
             inferre
             for
             ought
             I
             know
             ,
             that
             a
             Magistrate
             is
             not
             bound
             to
             be
             subject
             to
             any
             of
             all
             the
             ordinances
             of
             Jesus
             Christ
             .
             It
             is
             condemned
             as
             an
             error
             in
             
               Plato
               ,
            
             that
             he
             held
             it
             lawfull
             for
             a
             Magistrate
             to
             make
             an
             officious
             lie
             ,
             for
             the
             good
             of
             the
             Common-wealth
             ;
             but
             not
             lawfull
             for
             a
             Subject
             .
             The
             error
             of
             our
             Civilians
             is
             greater
             ,
             who
             will
             have
             Magistrates
             so
             to
             rule
             us
             ,
             that
             Christ
             shall
             not
             rule
             them
             .
          
        
         
         
           
             Civilian
             .
          
           
             I
             suppose
             it
             is
             high
             time
             to
             adjourne
             ,
             till
             we
             〈◊〉
             another
             occasion
             of
             amicable
             and
             free
             confe●e●●
             which
             time
             it
             is
             like
             enough
             our
             opinions
             ●●y●●
             〈◊〉
             accord
             .
             The
             points
             of
             which
             we
             have
             talked
             a●●
             〈◊〉
             many
             and
             weighty
             ,
             which
             therefore
             I
             will
             take
             to
             〈◊〉
             second
             thoughts
             .
             And
             so
             much
             for
             this
             time
             ,
             Far
             -
             〈◊〉
             .
          
        
         
           
             Divine
             .
          
           
             
               Consider
               what
               I
               say
               ,
               and
               the
               Lord
               give
               you
               understand●●●
               in
               all
               things
               .
            
          
        
         
           FINIS
           .
        
      
    
     
       
         
           Errata
           .
        
         
           PAg.
           12.
           l.
           20.
           
             country
             ,
          
           read
           
             County
             .
          
           p.
           15.
           l.
           13.
           
             op●●r
             .
          
           up●●
           p●
           l.
           2.
           3.
           
             civill
             worship
             ,
             r.
             civill
             fellowship
             .
          
           Ibid.
           l.
           15.
           
           C●●●●
           ,
           r
           ,
           〈◊〉
           Ibid.
           in
           Marg.
           
             redbat
             ,
          
           r.
           
             redibat
             .
          
           p.
           21.10
           .
           
             that
             ,
          
           r.
           adde
           that
           .
           p.
           〈◊〉
           l.
           13.
           care
           ,
           r.
           law
           .
           Ibid.
           
             ex
             ,
          
           r.
           
             &
             .
          
           p.
           30.
           l.
           17.
           
           
             Witen●ogurdus
             ,
          
           r.
           〈◊〉
           
             bogurdus
             .
          
           Smaller
           errors
           and
           punctations
           ,
           and
           the
           like
           ,
           the
           〈◊〉
           der
           will
           pardon
           .
        
      
       
         Notes, typically marginal, from the original text
         
           Notes for div A42764e-220
           
             *
             Deut.
             23.15
             .
          
           
             *
             ●●al
             .
             78.34
             .
             
               Caiv.
               Opuse
               .
               de
               S●andalis
               gu●s
               Evang●l●
               pro
               〈◊〉
               la●●●
               in
               Germanian
               〈◊〉
               ,
               &
               ●●●zae
               adbuc
               e●sent
               corum
               〈◊〉
               ,
               qu●
               ad
               tuendam
               bonam
               causam
               videbantur
               animati
               ,
               ha●que
               f●●ucia
               susceptum
               esset
               luctuosum
               b●c
               bellum
               ,
               quodque
               ,
               insel●c●ter●
               〈◊〉
               :
               ●rectis
               ●
               magnas
               spes
               ,
               p●rt●s
               nostrae
               animis
               ;
               d●xi
               al
               quando
               publ●è
               ,
               plus
               à
               nostra
               ,
               quàm
               hostium
               victoria
               ,
               nobis
               instare
               pericul●●●
               eque
               enim
               tam●
               m●tuenda●
               esse
               ullas
               clades
               ,
               quàm
               n●m●s
               triumpha●e
               ,
               ●t
               ita
               loquar
               ,
               Evangelium
               ,
               quod
               nos
               adinsolentiam
               efferret
               .
               No●
               vero
               me
               i●ius
               voc●s
               bod●e
               quoque
               paenites
               .
               Nisi
               prophanae
               licentiae
               Dominis
               matu
               .
               e
               obviam
               ●●sset
               ,
               morbus
               fu●sset
               temporis
               successis
               procemodum
               incurab●lis
               .
               Nulle
               dollrinae
               piisgu●
               monitionibus
               fuisset
               authoritas
               ,
               &c.
               
            
          
           
             
               Act.
               &
               Monu
               vol.
               z.
               p.
            
             1373.
             
               edit.
            
             1583.
             
          
           
             
               In
               vit.
               Iul.
               agri●
               .
            
          
           
             Matth.
             6.33
             .
          
           
             M●l
             3.10
             .
          
           
             Isa.
             2●
             .
             1.1
             .
             〈◊〉
             ●
             .
             30
             .
          
           
             〈…〉
             .
          
           
             〈…〉
             P●●l
             .
             2●●
             .
          
           
             
               Antiqd
               .
            
             8
             
               c.
            
             2.
             
          
           
             Hag.
             1.2
             .
             
               De
               Repub.
               l.
            
             ●
             .
             
               c.
            
             12.
             
             
               Quicunque
               Principes
               atque
               Re●pub
               .
               Semet
               ipsas
               conservare
               cupiunt
               ,
               in
               id
               unum
               prae
               caeteris
               ,
               incumbere
               debeu●
               ,
               ut
               verum
               religionis
               cul●umrecte
               instituant
               &
               vanerentur
               .
            
             Et
             infra
             ,
             
               quod
               si
               haec
               tam
               d●ligens
               cura
               divini
               cultus
               ,
               à
               Reipub.
               Christian●
               Princip●bus
               observata
               esset
               ,
               secundum
               primā
               institutionem
               ,
               &
               praecepta
               ejus
               ,
               qui
               illam
               nobis
               primum
               tradidit
               :
               longe
               majori
               faelicitate
               ,
               a●
               pace
               in
               orbe
               Christi●●●
               frueremur
               .
               Valerius
               Maximus
               l.
            
             1.
             
               c.
            
             2.
             gives
             us
             fix
             instances
             of
             examplarie
             judgements
             among
             the
             
               Romans
            
             ;
             which
             were
             observed
             to
             fall
             upon
             such
             as
             despised
             Religion
             ,
             &
             the
             honour
             of
             the
             Gods
             .
          
           
             Iob.
             10.2
             .
          
           
             1.
             Cor.
             3.18
             .
          
           
             Rom.
             12.2
             .
          
           
             Luk.
             16.10
             .
          
           
             1.
             
             King.
             12.33
             .
          
           
             Isa
             22.21
             ,
             2●
             .
          
           
             Luk.
             1.33
             .
          
           
             
               Tr●ct
               .
            
             62.
             
               in
               Acta
               .
            
          
           
             
               De
               jure
               natur
               .
               &
               Gentium
               .
               l●
               .
            
             2.
             
               cap.
            
             4.
             
          
           
             
               Proselytus
               Iustitiae
               ,
               utcunque
               nova●o
               patriae
               nom●ne
               Iudaeus
               d●c●●tur
               ,
               no●
               tam
               quidem
               ●●vis
               Iudaicus
               simpliciter
               censendus
               esset
               quam
               peregrinus
               semper
               cu●
               jur●
               quamplirima
               ●●ter
               cives
               .
               S●lden
               .
               loc.
               citat
               .
            
          
           
             
               De
               anno
               civili
               Iudaeor
               cap
            
             18.
             
             
               Neque
               enimà
               Templo
               ,
               Sacrificiis
               ,
               aut
               Conv
               u●ib●s
               sacris
               om●ino
               quis
               apud
               cos
               ex
               sententia
               ●liqua
               Excommunicationis
               ,
               sive
               sivensi
               ,
               sive
               alia
               hum●na
               arcendus
               er●●
               .
            
          
           
             
               Solden
               de
               Ihre
               natur
               .
               &
               Gent.
               li.
            
             4.
             
               c.
            
             9.
             
             
               Atque
               〈◊〉
               plane
               à
               communicatione
               orationis
               ,
               &
               conventus
               ,
               &
               omnis
               sancti
               commerci●
               relegabatur
               ,
               ●●●madmodum
               ae
               hujusmodi
               an●themate
               ,
               sub
               i●itii●
               Ecclesiae
               Christianae
               loquitur
               Tertullianus
               .
               Drusius
               Quast.
               &
               Resp.
               lib.
            
             1.
             
               quaest.
            
             9.
             
             
               Solcbant
               autem
               vet●res
            
             (
             Judaei
             )
             
               si
               qui●
               gravius
               deliquerat
               ,
               primum
               eum
               mavere
               caelu
               Ecclesiastico
               :
               si
               non
               emendabat
               se
               ,
               tum
               feritbant
               anathemate
               :
               quod
               si
               ne
               tum
               quidem
               redbat
               ad
               frugem
               ,
               ultimo
               at
               postremo
               loco
               sa●●tizaba●t
               .
               Iohannes
               Coch.
               annot.
               in
               Exc
               Gemar
               .
               Sanedrim
               .
               cap.
            
             1.
             
             
               Qui
               simpliciter
               excommunicatu●
               est
               (
               menud●e
               )
               est
               ille
               quidem
               separatus
               à
               caetu
               ,
               it
               a
               ut
               provero
               membro
               Ecclesiae
               non
               habeatur
               .
            
             Dr.
             
               Buxt●rf
               .
               dissert.
               de
               literis
               Hebraeor
               .
               th
               .
            
             49.
             hath
             observed
             a
             notable
             passage
             in
             
               Pirke
               ,
            
             and
             in
             
               Iela●●●d●un
               ,
            
             which
             maketh
             much
             for
             this
             po'nt
             in
             hand
             .
             It
             is
             concerning
             the
             
               Samaritans
               ,
            
             who
             being
             circumcised
             by
             two
             Elders
             of
             Israel
             sent
             to
             them
             ,
             and
             having
             received
             the
             book
             of
             the
             Law
             ,
             were
             afterwards
             upon
             just
             causes
             excommunicated
             by
             
               Ezra
               .
               Quid
               secit
               Esr●●
               &
               Zerubbabel
               filius
               Shealtiel
               ,
               &
               Iehosua
               filius
               Iehozadek
               ?
               Convocaverunt
               totum
               caetum
               in
               Templum
               Domini
               ,
               &
               ve●●re
               fecerunt
               trecentos
               Sacerdotes
               ,
               tr●centos
               pueros
               ,
               trecentas
               buccinas
               ,
               &
               trecentos
               libros
               legis
               i●
               manu
               ●orum
               ,
               qui
               elangeba●t
               ,
               Levitae
               ●●o
               canebant
               &
               psallebant
               ,
               &
               excommunicabant
               (
               i●
               lelammeden●
            
             
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
            
             that
             is
             ,
             they
             did
             excommunicate
             in
             all
             the
             three
             degrees
             or
             kinds
             of
             excommunication
             )
             
               Cutheos
               per
               secretum
               nominis
               Tetragrammati
               ,
               &
               per
               Scripturam
               quae
               scripta
               suit
               in
               Tabulis
               ,
               &
               per
               anathema
               domus
               Iudicii
               superioris
               ,
               &
               per
               anathema
               judicii
               inferioris
               ;
               Ne
               quis
               unquam
               ex
               Israele
               comederet
               panem
               Cuthaei
               ,
               unde
               dixerunt
               ;
               Quisquis
               comederit
               carnem
               Cuthei
               ,
               perinde
               est
               ac
               si
               comederet
               carnem
               perei
               :
               it●●
               ne
               quisquam
               Cuthaeum
               faceret
               proselytum
               ,
               h.
               c.
               in
               Iuda
               snum
               reciperet
               ,
               &c.
               
            
             Whereby
             it
             is
             manifest
             ,
             that
             the
             Jewish
             excommunication
             was
             a
             shutting
             out
             as
             well
             from
             sacred
             as
             from
             civill
             communion
             ,
             and
             that
             by
             publick
             Authority
             .
          
           
             
               De
               anno
               civili
               ,
               cap.
            
             18.
             
          
           
             Exod.
             30.38
             Lev.
             7.15.17
             .
             Num.
             29.13
             .
             20.
             
          
           
             
               C●rtum
               quid●m
               e●t
               ,
               Pa●lum
               ve●l●
               bun●
               incestum
               ●overi
               c●mmunion●
               Ec●lesia
               :
               ●
               d
               i●
               vu't
               fier●
               ab
               i●sa
               Ecclesia
               :
               Cori●t●iaca
               ,
               dice●s
               ,
               vers.
               13.
               
               Tollite
               ilium
               s●●leratum
               de
               medio
               vestrum
               v●lt
               ●nim
               id
               fieri
               mi●i●terii
               ordinarii
               ●●●h●rit●te
               M●lia
               .
               uttes
               ,
               lib.
            
             2.
             
               ●ap
               .
            
             11.
             
          
           
             2
             Chro.
             15.13
             .
          
           
             2
             Chro
             34.32
             .
          
           
             Ezra
             10.8
             .
          
           
             2
             Kings
             23.5
             .
          
           
             Deut.
             13.5
             .
             6.
             
          
           
             Deut.
             17.17
             ,
             18
             ,
             19.
             
          
           
             Isay
             49.23
             .
          
           
             2
             Chro.
             19.6
             .
          
           
             ●o
             .
             16.
             
             ●
             .
          
           
             2
             Tim.
             2.17
             ,
             18
             
          
           
             Act.
             18.17
             .
          
           
             Pag.
             76.
             
          
           
             Pag.
             26.
             
          
           
             Pag.
             13
             ,
             14.15
             .
          
           
             
               ●●●el
               .
               ●●●●aen
               .
               ,
               tom
               .
               1.
               pag.
               413
               Nullus
               au●em
               Rex
               bab●t
               porestatem
               constituend
               .
               prectium
               super
               aliquem
               Ecclesiasticum
               sacris
               or
               denibus
               obligatum
               ,
               vel
               super
               membra
               ,
               vel
               sanguinem
               ,
               vel
               Saraed
               ejus
               ,
               vel
               super
               aliquem
               de
               suis
               ,
               qu●a
               quisque
               Ecclesiast
               :
               cus
               ut
               praedictus
               ,
               babet
               potest●tē
               per
               leg●m
               Ecclesiasticam
               orob
               .
               and
               in
               Synodo
               ,
               quodl●be
               :
               nocum●atum
               vel
               da●mum
               qued
               ei
               l●icus
               sa●iat
               ,
               aut
               Rex
               aut
               alius
               .
               Item
               nu●rtenus
               tales
               Ecclesiasticus
               potest
               compells
               ad
               re●pond●●●●●
               ali●●●i
               extra
               Synodum
               ,
               de
               delict
               is
               s●bi
               oppositis
               .
               Du●●nus
               de
               sacr.
               ecci
               .
               minist
               ●i
            
             1.
             c.
             2.
             canfesseth
             that
             
               de
               causes
               civilibus
               Clericorum
               ,
               nan
               Sacerdotes
               elim
               ,
               sed
               Praesi●es
               &
               mgis
               Magistratus
               ●●●
               s●●●ant
               ,
               &c.
               
               Verum
               Constitutiones
               Romanorum
               Pontisicum
               ,
               hu●e
               juri
               uon
               parum
               derogevorun●
               quibus
               ca●cum
               est
               n●n
               so'um
               ut
               clevici
               ad
               Mag
               str●t●s
               tribunal
               i●●viti
               non
               trabantur
               ,
               s●d
               ut
               ●●
               v●lo●tes
               ●uidem
               jurisdictioni
               Magstratus
               se
               subj●cere
               pas●●nl
               ,
               s●ve
               civ●lis
               sit
               ,
               sive
               criminal●s
               camsa
               .