The present interest of England stated by a lover of his king and countrey. Bethel, Slingsby, 1617-1697. 1671 Approx. 88 KB of XML-encoded text transcribed from 21 1-bit group-IV TIFF page images. Text Creation Partnership, Ann Arbor, MI ; Oxford (UK) : 2007-01 (EEBO-TCP Phase 1). A27543 Wing B2072 ESTC R5304 12318774 ocm 12318774 59429 This keyboarded and encoded edition of the work described above is co-owned by the institutions providing financial support to the Early English Books Online Text Creation Partnership. This Phase I text is available for reuse, according to the terms of Creative Commons 0 1.0 Universal . The text can be copied, modified, distributed and performed, even for commercial purposes, all without asking permission. Early English books online. (EEBO-TCP ; phase 1, no. 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Copies of the texts have been issued variously as SGML (TCP schema; ASCII text with mnemonic sdata character entities); displayable XML (TCP schema; characters represented either as UTF-8 Unicode or text strings within braces); or lossless XML (TEI P5, characters represented either as UTF-8 Unicode or TEI g elements). Keying and markup guidelines are available at the Text Creation Partnership web site . eng Great Britain -- Foreign relations -- 1660-1688. Great Britain -- History -- Charles II, 1660-1685. 2006-04 TCP Assigned for keying and markup 2006-05 Apex CoVantage Keyed and coded from ProQuest page images 2006-08 Jonathan Blaney Sampled and proofread 2006-08 Jonathan Blaney Text and markup reviewed and edited 2006-09 pfs Batch review (QC) and XML conversion THE Present Interest OF ENGLAND STATED . BY A Lover of his King and Countrey . LONDON , Printed for D. B. 1671. THE PREFACE . INterest is a word of several definitions , but that which in Creatures , having reason , or sense , is preservation and propagation , is that in a State , which I mean by Interest : and this is either Domestick looking inward , as relating to the particular frame and kind of government , or foreign looking outwards , as regarding such alterations abroad , as may be of good or evil consequence to a State ; and such counsels , deliberations , or actions , as may improve good , or prevent evill , are , according to the Interest of a Nation , and the contrary against it . And taking the words thus , the prosperity , or adversity , if not the life and death of a State , is bound up in the observing or neglecting of it's Interest . For as no Countrey was ever unhappy , that followed it , so none ever prospered ( except by chance ) that forsook or missed it ; and consequently , it is matter of the greatest concernment to a Prince , to studie , and make himself Master of it , that in keeping his Counsellors in awe , by his own knowledge and experience , in matters of State , he may have his affairs the better and faithfuller prosecuted ; but in searching for his Interest , he ought to be exceeding carefull , of not being misled by former examples , which are to Politicians , as of old , the Stars to Navigators , rightly understood , the best guide , and mistaken , the most dangerous . For Interest in all Countreys is changeable , that which was in one Age , not being alwayes the same in the next , as the Crowns of Spain and France do sufficiently evince . For Spain being by corruption in Counsellors , and Ministers of State , fraud , oppression , and cousenage in Officers , and Servants , with persecution in the Church , and severity in government , causing several revolts , brought at this time low , and into a languishing condition , the Interest of the European Princes , is changed from that of being against the house of Austria , and for France , to that of being for it , and against France , the latter being at present , under more than suspition , that having now got the advantage of Spain , they intend to improve it to an universal Monarchy , as Spain formerly designed . But as a Prince ought to be studious in discovering of his Interest , so to be solicitous in examining the Integrity of Counsels given him , lest by corrupt Counsellors , he should be put ( for private ends ) upon designs prejudicial , if not contrary and destructive to the Interest of his Countrey . And because the wisdome , or defects of Princes , appears much in their choice of Counsellors and Ministers of State ( who under them , are the managers of their Interests ) there ought to be in the Election of such , a special eye to their principles , as well as abilities , avoiding with care , all avaricious persons , as men , who for advantage , will upon all occasions , forsake , and desert fidelity , the chief ingredient of a good Counsellor . For when men have parts without honesty , they are but the greater instruments of mischief ; and we find that little more than common parts assisted with integrity , industry , and diligence , have done , and do the greatest things in the world : Nay , that ordinary parts , with such qualifications , do more , than the sublimest without them , the art of Government , not being so misterious , as State Monopolists would make it , honesty ( as King James used to say ) being the best policy , and surely , that is the best Government , that provides most for the imployment of the honestest men . For as no State can flourish , where their Interest is not pursued , so publick Interest will never be the rule , where Counsellors are not faithful , and when publick principles do not govern men , private Interest will , and render their Countrey as Merchandize for the highest Chapman ; so that although , the Notion that Interest cannot lye is true , yet it is not ( in Subjects ) singly to be trusted . For since private , worldly , and carnal Interest ( which in persons wanting honesty is alwayes mercenary ) may be changed by the bribing bounty of other Princes , or States ; it is a great error in those , understanding their Interest , to rely upon their Counsellors , or Officers , without examining , whether their counsels and actions are pursuant of , and consonant to their Interests ; or yet in great trusts , to presume upon any other qualifications in Counsellors , and Civil and Military Ministers , then either truly religious , or truly honourable moral principles , which cannot change , as private simple Interest , not bottomed upon the one , or the other principle , will surely do according to the greatness of temptations : and therefore , as upon good or bad Counsellors , and Ministers , depends the happiness or infelicity of a Prince , and State , Sir Walter Rawleigh affirming , that a Commonwealth is more secure where the Prince is not good , then where the Ministers are bad , so they cannot shew more wisdome , then insignally rewarding , and incouraging the former , and exemplarily punishing the latter . I know that Counsels are not alwayes to be judged of , according to success , it being possible , that honest and well grounded counsels may miscarry , and to punish men in such cases , were to discourage the ablest and most virtuous Persons from serving of their Prince or State ; but sometimes designs are written in such large characters of selfishness and corruption , the foundations of them being laid in lyes , and forgeries , as is legible to every impartial eye ; and when such appears , by a true discovery upon inquiry , the Criminals ought to be made examples to posterity . Formerly the affairs of Christendom were supposed to be chiefly swayed by the two great powers of Austria ( wherein Spain is understood ) and France : from whom other Princes and States derived their Peace and Warr , according to the several parties they adhered unto . But now the puissance of the former being so much abated , that it deserves no rank above its Neighbours , France of the two , remains the only formidable Potentate , of whose greatness , all Princes and States are as much concerned to be jealous , as formerly they were of that of Austria . For , considering the French King , in relation to France , stored with good Officers , Men , Money , and Ammunition , to his several augmentations gained from all his Neighbours , by conquest , exchange , or purchase ( as from Spain , Italy , Germany , Lorrain , and the Spanish Netherlands ) giving him free passage into their several Dominions , and to his present Naval strength , increased lately by an unhappy accident , * he is accommodated for any design , his ambition shall prompt him to , or at least , should the sickly and weak young King of Spain dye childless , to dispute uncontroulably , his right to all the Countreys in Europe belonging to that Crown , as also to contend for the Imperial dignity , should be survive the present Emperor , if he stayes till then : and if his aims may be guessed at by the writings of his Subjects , which are commonly the the transcripts or presages of their Princes sence and mind , he pretends to all the Lands , lying on his side the River Rhein , as belonging to the antient Kingdome of Austratia ( his supposed inheritance ) which caused a learned man of Strasbourg ( who suspected their Commonwealth to be struck at ) to maintain in writing ( some few years past ) the Rights of their City against all pretenders . And thus upon the whole , considering France furnished with a King , not wanting high thoughts or activity , less cannot be expected from him , than to design an universal Monarchy , which consequently makes it the common Interest of all European Princes and States ( as they value their own safety ) to unite , for the keeping of him within bounds and limits . And now as England is not the least in the general concern of Europe , and because seated by it self , and divided by Sea from all other Nations , I shall begin with it . Decemb. 27. 167● THE PRESENT INTEREST OF ENGLAND STATED . HOlding it necessary in the Discoursing of England , to consider its Domestick , and forreign Interests severally ; I shall observe that method , and handle them distinctly , beginning with the first . The Isle of Great Britain , of which England is the most considerable part , and that which is chiefly taken notice of in the World , having the advantage of an Island , in being divided from all other Countries , by the Ocean ; Narrow and Northern Seas is not subject to those incursions that Contiguous Countries are , not being in danger from abroad whilst its Naval strength is preserved , by keeping their shipping in good repair , and their Marriners incouraged by good usage : Neither is it fit for foreign acquisitions , in regard of the uncertainty of winde and weather , and chargeableness of transportation ; but contenting themselves with the bounds that providence hath given them , making it their defigne to improve their advantage for trade , to increase their greatness at home , is their first Domestick interest ; for as self defence is the chief interest of every Creature , Natural or Politick , and as without trade , no Nation can be fomidable , especially at Sea , nor able to maintain a sufficient Navalguarde , or desend themselves against their powerful Neighbours ; so Trade , must be the principal Interest of England . And this Nature seems to admonish them unto , prohibiting their affecting Foreign Conquests , by placing them with advantages as they are an Island . First , for preservation , and without much for augmentation . Secondly , for viewing the actions of their Neighbours , and qualifying them with might , and strength sufficient to render them arbitrators in their differences . And thirdly , for advancing both their Home , and Foreign traffick , in endowing them with Natural helps for Trade beyond all other Countries : As with plenty of staple Commodities , incompassing them with profitable , and rich Seas , convenient and safe Havens , and Bayes , bold Coasts , Rivers and good Portes , all affording matter of encouragement for foreign Commerce , incomperable means in their many harbours for increasing of their Navigation , and great invitations to strangers to make use of these advantages in trading with the Countrie . And yet besides these Natural helps , England hath further the advantage of all other Countries , in some customs , and practices : As in that of breeding the younger sons of Gentlemen , and sometimes of the Nobility , to the Ministrie , Law , Trade , and Physick , without prejudice to their Gentility , their Heralds not requiring somuch as any restauration in such cases ; although it frequenly falls out , that Gentlemen , during their Apprenticeships to Trades , come by the death of their elder Brothers to be Barronets . In which particular , England may well be said to come nearest unto antient Prudence , and right Reason , of all other Nations . For if no Countrie can be rich or flourish without Trade , as indisputable it cannot , nor be more or less considerable , but according to the proportion it hath of Commerce ; and that antiently men were esteemed , honoured , and dignified according to the benefit , and commoditie their Countrie had recieved by them ; the Traders of a Nation ought to be most encouraged , and Trade accounted the most honourable of all professions . Secondly , by their greatest Nobility , marrying with all degrees , where fortunes answers their qualities . Thirdly , in his Majesties Prerogative , for dignifying men of acquired estates , as he sees cause . And fourthly , in that the single possession of estates , renders in reputation the owners of them Gentlemen , all being vast benefits to the Nation ( which other Countreys are strangers unto ) in preventing idleness in their numerous Gentry , and incouraging industry in all sorts of people . In Germany , Denmark , Sweden , and Poland , it is esteemed below the quality of a Gentleman , to be bred to either Trade , Law , Ministry , or Physick : ( except that among the Papists , some are bred to the Church to get great estates , that leaving no known posterity , they may thereby advance their families , as they many times do in Germany , Italy , and other places . ) Neither will the greatest fortunes tempt them to marry into the families of any of those Callings , they choosing to live miserably , as many of them do , rather than to match under their degree , or at least , not into such , as they esteem noble . And indeed , they cannot well do otherwise , without danger of degradation , one of the reasons , for the deposition of Errick King of Sweden , Uncle to Oustavus Adolphus , being the undervaluing himself in his marriage ; and if the Emperour , or Northern Kings , conferr honours upon any of their Subjects , not of antient descent , they seldome last longer in esteem , than the first Generation , the families of these Countreys being so stated , as makes it almost impossible , upon any account to introduce a new lasting Race of Gentility , save that in Sweden they have in these latter ages allowed a general command in their Armies , the faithful and prudent discharging the employment of an Ambassador extraordinary , or the election into the Senate , which consists of 40 persons , to be a good original of new Nobility or Gentry . In the United Netherlands , the Gentlemen are much upon the same punctilio's , except that in marriage ( for good fortunes ) they would mix ; but that the trading party , not valuing Gentility , without proportionable estates , seldome , or never , willingly do it . And from hence it is ( in a great part ) that Gelderland , and Overyssel , two Provinces that abounds in number of Gentry , are so poor , whilst Holland , Zeland , and Friesland , the first , and last , having few antient Gentry ; and the second , none but the Prince of Orange , are so rich . France is not so strictly tyed up by these rules , as the preceeding Countreys are , their Nobility marrying any where for money , as the Nieces of the last great Cardinal shews , besides that they allow of estates got by Trade , to be laudable foundations for new raised families , in both which principles , they are surely wise , and thrive the better , whilst other Countreys are kept low by their contrary practices ; for were it not for the benefit that that Countrey reaps by the incouragement which is given there unto Trade , it were impossible for them to subsist under their great burthens ; but no people comes so near the English , in the chief of these circumstances , as the wise Venetians , Genovesers , Lucresers , and the Florentines , who all allowing the exercise of Traffick in their Nobility and Gentry , reap the benefit of such prudence , as appears in the three first , exceeding their Neighbours much , in prosperity and wealth , and the Prince and People of the last , being abundantly the better by it ; for were it not for their principle of Commerce , incouraged by some Liberty in Conscience , connived at in Leghorne ( the only Port-Town of Trade under that Prince ) the people would be as poor , as they are thin , not able to live under the severity of that Government : but if these Instances be not sufficient to prove the profit that accrews unto a Countrey , by a trading Gentry , there needs no further travelling for demonstration , than England , where before the reformation of Religion , that Gentlemen had idle Convents to put their younger Sons into , Trade was there so small , that the Customs amounted not to 10000 l. per an . whereas they are now , or have been lately , more than fifty times as much ; which proves , First , the advantage that Trade brings both to King , and People ; and Secondly , that Trade hath been much increased , by taking younger Brothers off from their sloathful way of living , and applying them , with their Patrimonies to Trade , and Commerce . The experience of this , may reprove those , who both in * discourse , and writing , plead for the vain antient custom of Idleness , in the younger brothers of England , as if they preferred being their eldest brothers servants , with the priviledge of filling up the lower end of their Tables , before the present laudable practice , and incumbant duty of industry , inabling them to live in equality with their eldest brothers . And surely , it is the glory , and not shame of England ( as our new pretenders to Politicks would have it ) that by Commerce , they have made themselves so formidable in the world , whilst all other Northern Countreys ( the United Netherlands as to their Gentry not excepted ) by their superstitious adhering to their old customs , are so inconsiderable . And certain it is , that England could not have had those great things to have boasted of at Sea , as now they have ; nor could they stand before their Neighbours , were it not for Traffick , which is the only thing that makes a Countrey rich , — Law , and Physick , by great Fees , and corrupt Practice , having a great share in impoverishing this Nation , but none in the inriching of it , fees to both Professions being in all other Countreys very moderate , compaired with England ; a Physician , in no other place , having for a visit above 18 d. star . except at Venice , where it is 2 s. 6 d. and in some places , as at Newport , and Lisle , in Flanders , &c. but 6 d. and even at Amsterdam , and at Antwerpen , the first equal to any place for wealth , and the latter next considerable , not above 12 Stivers , which is about 13 d. and Lawyers 2 s. 6 d. for their opinion , and as much an hour , for a business that requires long consultation and work , much of their pleading being cast into that price ; so that England may be reckoned to exceed in their fees to both Professions , ten times the rates of other Countreys . But if the benefit of Commerce be not sufficient to convince the enemies of trading Gentlemen , peradventure the impossibility of reducing the Gentry and Nobility of England , to the mode of other Countries , without utter ruine to them , may do it , and therefore , they may do well to consider , that to answer other Countries in their Rules , First , All the Families of the Gentry must be so stated , as that no way ( not even by desert ) may be left for increasing the number of them . Secondly , None descended from them , either Males or Females , must marry any but such as are of those Families . Thirdly , None of their Sons must be bred to any Callings , either the Ministry , Law , or Physick ; nay , nor be Court-Officers , except such as they account Noble : ( which are not many , Secretaries not being in that number ) they reckoning all Callings a debasement of Gentility , as well as Trade ; and he that marries with the daughter of any person of a Calling , to deserve the punishment of degr●dation ; And therefore , should Trade be maintained in England , in such a way , as the riches got by it , would remain in the Trading partie , the Gentry would consequently be poor , compared with the Trading-Families ; and as honours and respect will follow Estates , so the Gentry would be little regarded , whilst the Traders would carry away all Interest , and esteem in their Countries , as the Trading-Families of Holland do at present , from the poor Gentry of Gelderland and Overyssel , two provinces of the United Netherlands . But if these new Statists shall still desire the want of Trade , with poverty , rather than riches , with the practice of that they call the debasement of Gentility , they ought farther to consider , that the Case of England is not the same with other Northern Nations ; for Denmark , Sweeden , and Poland , being all upon the same Principle , of despising Trade in their Gentry , are alike poor , wanting Commerce , and so under the less danger one of another : But England , having rich and potent Neighbours , Trade is absolutely necessary for their preservation , in rendring them equal in power , both at Sea and Land , to their great and opulent emulators ; so that in true English , they that plead for less plenty in the People of England , do no less in effect ( though in Charity I will hope they think not so ) than argue for exposing them as a prey to their enemies ; but these principles are not strange in them , who , in pleading for keeping the people low , seem to have lost all Natural affection to their Countrey , in accusing the Commons ( by which I suppose is meant the Yeomandry of England , who , without ostentation , may be called the best of their kind in the world , the Pesants of other Countries being Brutes in Religion , good Nature and Civility , compared to them ) of being the coursest Bran , and the worst of People , &c. saying , they are so distasteful to their Gentry , that they wish their Country less plentiful , or more burthened with Taxes , as the way to refine the manners of the Common people . But , although the Competitors with England in Trade , may be glad of having a Confession of Pride , Insolence , and ill Conditions in the English , from one of themselves , to make use of abroad , for their own advantage , and to the prejudice of the English Nation ; yet if it be believed by any that know England , they must have changed their observations of it , that people , having never lain under such a censure until now , that it is untruly , maliciously , and imprudently clapped upon them , by , I may say , a degenerate Countryman , who , in his reproaches , sheweth little of that natural affection , that every one oweth to the Land of their Nativity , nor suitableness to the Care his Majesty and Council take for promoting Trade , by several Councils appointed to that end , but what use soever Foreiners may make of these accusations against the English Traders , and Merchants in other Countries . I suppose the new Philosophy of Poverty , and the transplantation of all Non-conformists , called the Sons of Belial , ( the ready way to penury ) being best for a Nation , will have but few disciples ; for though all is thought to be made good , by accusing the People of England of want of that humble respect , and awful reverence to the Nobility , Gentry , and Clergy , that is due to them , those to whom the Commons of England are not strangers , know that they are not wanting in good nature , or due observance , to any of the three Orders , where there is Justice , and not Oppression , in the two first , nor Cruelty , Ignorance , Profaneness , or Debauchery in the last ; for although Greatness may procure Fear , nothing but Virtue , Honesty , and Justice , can Love , and true Reverence . It may well be questioned , who it is , that the men of these principles aim to gratifie by them ? for nothing can be more prejudicial to His Majesty , than publickly to maintain , that Plenty in his people , is inconsistent with Peace and good Order in his Government , or that reducing the people to a complaining condition , is the way to make them happy , as this Gentleman insinuates . This seeming digression , is necessitated , for Trade being the true and chief intrinsick Interest of England , without which it cannot subsist , thus much could not well be avoided , in the making out , that as well by some Constitutions and Customes , as by its Native Commodities and Conveniencies , it so far excells all other Kingdomes and Commonwealths in worldly advantages ; that Providence may be said to have lest nothing more to the People of England to do , in order to their earthly felicity , than desiring of it ; the matter of Trade being naturally so prepared and fitted for them , that it may even be a reproach to them , not to advance Trade , though no great glory to do it ; nothing , except some accidents extraordinary , or violent obstructions , ( as imposing upon Conscience , &c. ) or want of good Laws , or the execution of them , being capable of hindring the increase of it . And now , as from the growth of Trade , there doth naturally arise , not alone riches to the Subject , rendring a Nation considerable , but also increase of Revenue , and therein power and strength to the Soveraign ; so it is the undoubted Interest of his Majesty , to advance and promote Trade , by removing all obstructions , and giving it all manner of incouragement . As First , By lessening the over-great Impositions upon Native Commodities , and upon such , as are necessarily imported to be manufactured in England , or to be again transported . Secondly , By causing the Native Commodities to be faithfully and truly made , and ordered . Thirdly , By laying all Companies open , or at least , by leaving them free , for all to come in to them that please , without fines , more , than a small acknowledgement , tying them , in such case , from burthening their own Manufactures with Taxes , as they usually do for the raising money to spend profusely and wantonly : what objections may be made against this general rule , in reference to the East-Indi's Joynt-Stock , I know not ; but this I am sure may be said for it , that the Hollanders , driving their East-India Trade by a Joynt-Stock , is no argument for England to do the same : for they having by the publick purse of the Company , purchased and conquered several Countreys , and petty Kingdoms , which ingageth them often in Warrs with their Neighbours , and necessitateth them to keep up a standing Militia of 30 or 40000 men , with many Garrisons , and 100 or more Ships , equipped as well for Men of War at Sea , as for Merchants use ; the carrying on of such a Government , and desraying the charge of it , is no otherwise feasable , than by a Society and Joynt-Stock , the maintaining of their propriety being impracticable by an open Trade ; but the case not being the same with England , they having nothing in propriety , save the insignificant Castle of St. George , upon the Coast of Cormandel , their Trade being all by Factories , there is not that reason nor necessity upon them , for a Joynt-Stock , as upon Holland : and Societies , in restraining the number , both of Buyers of the Native , and Sellers of Forein Commodities , must consequently tend to the abating the price of the first , and inhancing the rate of the latter , nothing being more plain to reason , than that the fewer buyers of Native Commodities , the cheaper they must be , as the sewer sellers of Forein , the dearer they must be ; and that which abateth the price of Native Commodities , and raiseth the price of Forein , must be against the Interest of a Nation : and theresore the Netherlanders , who certainly understand the Interest of Trade , equal to any people living , though by making the Interest of Trade matter of State , they have an eye of regulation upon it , yet admits of no restraining Companies , as in England , except in their East and West-India Trades , where they have great possessions in propriety , Fourthly , By carefully protecting Merchants abroad , from the wrongs and injuries of other Nations . Fifthly , By making the transferring bills of debt good in Law , it being a great advantage to Traders ( especially to young men of small Stocks ) to be able to supplie themselves with monie , by the sale of their own bills of debt . Sixthly , By constituting a Court Merchant , after the example of other Countries , to prevent tedious and chargeable Sutes in Law , taking men off from their business , and in making the advancement , and protection of Trade , matter of State. Seventhly , By having Registers of all Real Estates , as is profitablie practised in other Countries , and in this , within the Jurisdiction of Taunton , which in a natural way , will abate the Interest of mony , and make Purchases certain ; for it is no little prejudice and blemish to England , that of all the Countries in Europe , there is none , where Purchasers , or Lenders of monie upon Land , are upon such uncertainty in their dealings , as in England . Eighthly , By taking away all privileges ( except of Parliament ) from persons and places , tending to the defrauding Creditors of their debts , and extending the Statute of Bankrupt , against all persons not Trading , as well as Traders , it being but equal Justice , that all men should be a like liable to the payments of their debts . Ninthly , Banks ( not Bankers , but ) such as are in use at Venice , Amsterdam , and Hamburg , where the States are security , keeping particular accounts of Cash , for all men , desiring it , are of great advantage to Merchants and Traders , in securing their monies from many casualties , and making receipts and payments , speedie and easie ; besides , so certain , without the danger of losing acquittances , or the death , or want of witnesses , as takes away all occasions of suits about them , Bank accounts being allowed for undeniable testimonies in Law ; but of these , I confess there are no thriving and flourishing examples , save under Republicks . Tenthly , By making Free Ports ( which England of all Countries in Europe , is most proper for ) giving liberty to Strangers , as well as Natives , upon payment of a small duty , to keep Magazines of goods ready for transportation to other Countries , according to the encouragement of Markets abroad , are great increasers of Trade and Navigation , and so of riches ; as appears , not only by Holland , which is a Commonwealth , but also by St. Mallows , under the Monarchy of France , and Leghorne , under that of Tuskanie ; the first , for its bigness , which contains but thirty six Acres of ground , being the richest City in France ; and the latter , all the places in that Princes Dominions , which , compared to former times , can truly be said to flourish . Eleventhly , Making business at the several Offices for Custome and Excise , and in all other places , as easie , and as little vexatious as may be , in employing such persons of honesty , integrity , and discretion , as will not abuse their trusts , no more in insolency than falseness , is a great encouragement to Traders ; as also , making passing in and out of the country by Strangers and Travellers , untroublesome , is a motive and inducement to them , to satisfie their curiosity in visiting the Kingdome , and spending their money in it . For to object , that the incivilities travellers meet with in going in , and coming out of France , hinders no resort thither , is more than can be proved ; besides that , admit it is not , yet the like usage in any other country , would be a prejudice to it , and would be surely so to France , were it not the humour at present of this giddy age , to run a madding after them ; and certainly , the facility that is in doing business in Holland , and the unmolested egress and regress that Strangers and Travellers meets with there , is a great benefit to them . Twelfthly , Would the Trading Corporations , choose after the example of London , and according to their own Interests , and reason of their institution , their members for Parliament out of themselves , the Interest of Trade would probably be better understood , and faithfullier prosecuted than it is , and it cannot but be a prejudice to Commerce , that they generally send Courtiers , Country Gentlemen , or their Recorders , to Parliament , who will be sure to prefer their particular Interests before that of Trade , it being natural to all men , to seek their own profit , before that of others . Thirteenthly , As England hath some beneficial Customes , which other Countries are strangers unto , so it hath others , as prejudicial , not known to Forein Governments ; as the great expences of Corporations , undoing many Citizens and Townsmen ; a Freeman of York , or Southampton , not being able to go through all their Offices , according to Custome and expectation , in the first , under seven or eight hundred pound ; and the latter , six or seven hundred ; which may well be judged one cause , why York is so poor , and the other thrives no better ; and the like observation may be made of the most of the other Corporations : The great charge of Sheriffs of the Counties , hath decayed , if not ruined many Families ; and the expence of Barristers , at their Readings , is a provocation to them , to increase their sharking , and growing upon the people ; all which bad effects , are to be wished were remedied , so far as taking away these unnecessary expences will do it : for I am not of their opinion , who think popular feastings and good fellowship , called Hospitality , to be the Interest of the Nation , because it consumes the growth of the Countrey ; but on the contrary , that it is altogether against it : For , besides the provoking of the Judgments of God by such inordinate living , Excess weakens mens bodies , spends vainly their time , dulls their wits , and makes them unfit for action and business , which is the chief advancer of any Government , and to supply the want of people in any Land , by a riotous wasting the growth of it , is , at best , but a bad effect , of a bad cause , and against that rule which forbids doing evil , that good may come of it ; and therefore , the true Interest of any Country is , by immunities , priviledges , and libertie of Conscience , so to encourage , and encrease the number of people , as they may rather be ( in a sober way of living ) too many , than to few for their provisions : and we do find , that in former times , when Hospitality was in England , much greater than at present , and that merely in the expence of their own provisions , without French dishes , or much of either Spanish or French Wines , the Country was poor to what it now is ; and that it hath been the encrease of the Trade and People of that Nation by Liberty and Priviledges , indulging tender Consciences , that hath advanced them . And ( as to the retrenching of expences ) this seems to be agreeable to the principles of that wise and great States-man , Sir Walter Rawleigh , who saith , that taking away all superfluous charges and expences , as well in Hospitality as in lessening the fees , allowances , and wages of Ministers of little necessitie , as also of pensions , rewards , entertainments , and donaries , to be a laudable parsimony used by the Romans , and other well-governed States . But , fourteenthly , imposing upon Conscience , in matters of Religion , is a mischief unto Trade , transcending all others whatsoever , for if the Traders and Manufacturers be forced to flye their Countries , or withdraw their stocks , by vexatious prosecutions , the having Natural Commodities in a Countrey , or no great impositions upon them , will signifie little to the Prince or People ; And Liberty of Conscience is not only the Common Interest of all the Nation , but especially of his Majesty , in that , First , By it he obligeth all his Subjects equally to him , no man having just cause to be offended at another mans liberty , since he enjoyes the same himself ; and more particularly , he obligeth all the Non-consormists to him , who can have no other Interest than his , that in grace and favour gives them Liberty ; securing thereby , in an especial manner , all the several perswasions , from agreeing upon any thing , to the prejudice of their Common friend , whereas the Papists have , as others may have , other Interests . And , although a Prince arrived to that height which is above Envy , and all sear from abroad , may sometimes adventure in imposing in matters of Religion , it is not in any kind excusable in them , that are not in such a condition , but that stands in need , in reference to the potency of their Neighbours , of the hearts of all their people , especially in this age , when the large experience the world hath had of the insuccessfulness and evil of it , hath made , ( even ) in the greatest Potentates , a general abatement therein , and now , when it is too late , they grow weary of their rigour . The last Pope , as is affirmed , having disswaded the French King , from attempting Geneva , when he thought to have obliged the Church of Rome , by reducing of it . And oh that England , whilst they have time , would be warned by the miseries of others , to avoid the rock they have split upon . Had the former Kings of Spain used in any degree , the lenity that that Crown at present practiseth in their Netherlands , where now a known protestant may obtain his freedome of several Cities , without having his Religion enquired into , as at Bruges , Newpart , &c. those Countries had not been so thin of people , nor Spain so depopulated as they are , nor yet the whole house of Austria so low , as it now seems to be . Nay , had the Pope made formerly so little use of his Inquisition , as he doth at this time , few places being less inquisitive after mens belief , than Rome , where one may be as good as he will , and spend all his dayes without being proceeded against , either Ecclesiastically or Civilly , for not coming to their Churches , Italy had had more people than it hath , and been more considerable than it is : The French could never advance by Massacres , of which , they are reckoned to have had thirty or forty , at several times , in several places , nor yet get forward in power and greatness , until they laid aside Persecution ; confessing , as Lewis the 13th . did at the taking of Rochell , that although it would rejoyce him to have all his Subjects of the same belief with himself , and that he should use all sweet means possible to draw them to it , yet since the experience of times past , had sufficiently made France to know , that Religion is not to be planted by the Sword , but ( to use his own words ) that it is God alone that must incline the heart , and illuminate the understanding with his knowledge ; he assured them he would never use Violence in matters of Religion , and to give that King his due , he truly inherited the merciful good Nature of his incomparable Father . Secondly , It may be concluded to be the Interest of the King and Kingdom of England , to grant Liberty of Conscience , because by a general consent of Nations , liberty in ceremonies , invented by men , seems to be accounted necessarie for the good of humane society . For I believe I may without boldness affirm , that England is singular in prosecuting them , who are one with them in Doctrine , for differing only in ceremonies , no other Christian Church that I know of , doing the like . In Germany , the Lutherans have scarce , in any two Cities , or Countries , the same ceremonies ; Nurenburg , and Leipsigg , having almost as many as the Papists , and yet differ in them ; Hamburg hath fewer , and Strasburg none at all ; and so it is through all the Lutheran Cities and Countries in the Empire , and yet agreeing in Doctrine ; their differing in circumstantials , make no breach of charitie amongst them , although at the same Communion . I have seen some receive standing , as others have kneeling . The Church of Rome , in their using the inventions of men , in the worship of God , seems ( their Principles considered ) to act rationally , because they pretend to the assistance of an infallible Spirit ; but for the Reformed Churches , who do not pretend to any such help , to maintain that the Lord of Heaven and Earth , who is so jealous of his own worship , that under the Law , he severely prohibited the adding to , or diminishing one little from , what he had commanded , and under the Gospel , gave no other Commission , than to teach according to what he had commanded , that he hath left his Worship to the inventions of corrupt , frail man , inclinable above all things to superstition and idolatry , and who are by nature , endlesly various in their imaginations , sense , and understandings , seems to be irrational , and to accuse Christ , of not having been , as a Son , so careful of his Church , as Moses , a Servant , was of the Church of God under the Law : for had Christ intended to have left his Church under a negative obedience in worship , making all things lawful that he had not forbidden , the command had been as readily made , to do whatsoever he had not prohibited , as it was to do whatsoever he hath commanded ; And that the Church of Rome , who pretends to infallibility , should not exact Conformity in Ceremonies , where there is an agreement in Doctrine , as they do not even in Rome it self , ( where they might force it , without prejudice to Trade , having little to obstruct ) there being in that City several Popish Churches , differing from one another in Ceremonies , and all abundantly from that properly called the Roman Church , and yet agreeing in Doctrine , have publick toleration , without exceptions ; And yet that the Church of England , who pretends not to infallibility , should to their civil prejudice , be rigid in imposing them , upon those that agree with them , not only in Fundamentals , but in all material points of Faith , Worship , and obedience , with punishment for denial , I cannot conceive the reason , except without Ceremonies , to administer matter of employment , in punishing tender Consciences , they think they should be without work , in any kind adequate to their great Revenues , and that they dread the consequent of uselesness . Thirdly , Liberty of Conscience to all Protestant Non-conformists , is the true Interest of King and Kingdome , in that it is absolutely and indispensibly necessary , for raising the value of Land , which at present is miserably mean and low , and advancing the Trade and Wealth of the Kingdome . First , Because imposition upon Conscience , hinders the resort of Strangers , and so the encrease of people , whereof England is greatly wanting , coming so far short of Holland in numbers , ( whereby that Province alone , is made more considerable than all the other six ) that whereas they are calculated to have six Souls for one Acre of ground , England , I fear , hath hardly one for ten , and the riches of Holland , under such multitudes , as the provisions of their own Country , are said not to be sufficient to nourish above an eighth part of their People ( all the rest being supplied by the Sea , and Trade with other Countries , argues Plenty of Inhabitants to be a benefit to Trading Countries , and Foreign Conquests or Plantations , exhausting men and money , where there is not an overplus of both , a prejudice which ought to be avoided . Secondly , Imposition upon Conscience , drives the soberest , and most industrious sort of Natives into corners , leaving trade into too few hands , and to a kind of people that do but rarely mind it ; amongst whom , though there are some that get large estates , it is not the thriving of a small number , but diffusive wealth , that makes a Country rich . And , as most of the Corporations in England have declined in their flourishing condition , since many of the soberest , and publick spirited Citizens and Townsmen , have , by the imposition of Oaths they could not comply with , been barred all share in Government , so the influence would have been the same , upon the whole Nation , had not His Majesty wisely considered the good of his Kingdome , in expressing his sense for Liberty , and in some kind , conniving at it . And if men , setting aside passion , would but seriously remember , and ponder the sad consequence of ancient popish Episcopal Persecutions , in the deaths ( by several brutish wayes and torments ) of many millions of precious Christians , in France , England , Netherlands , Germany , the Alpine Vallies , Italy , and Spain , producing no other effects , than the depopulating of the two last , and increasing the number of Dissenters in all the rest , besides the irrepairable damage of this Kingdom , in their former Bishops , driveing the woollen Manufactures back into the Netherlands , ( as the King of Spain had before driven them into England ) by Persecution , where they have ever since increased , and where they now remain , sad Monuments to this Nation , of the impolitick severity of those times , they could not but be convinced of the vanity and wickedness of such practices , as well as of the civil prejudice they bring to Nations , in destroying of their people , and therein depriving them of the benefit of Industry , thinking charitably of that saying , which was antiently in Voge , and is still in some places remembred , that when a Bishop is created , the Devil enters into him , and makes him his Executioner ; which as it had its original in times of Popery , so it concerns their Bishops only . Fourthly and Lastly , As it is the King and Kingdome of Englands Interest , to give Libertie of Conscience to all Protestant Dissenters , so it is not only to deny it to the Papists , after the example of other reformed countries , as Denmark , Sweeden , several Princes in Germany , and the reformed Cantons in Switzerland , but also to take care to prevent the growth of them , and that upon a civil score ; as first , because they own a forein head upon the account of their Religion , in which , they are carried on by such a blind zeal , as cannot render them less , than Spies , and Intelligencers for that Interest , and ready upon all occasions to appear for it . And even the wisest Popish States , acknowledge the reason of this principle , Sir Walter Rawleigh affirming , that the Venetians , as not holding it safe , to have any in their Counsels , who have dependance by Oath , Homage , natural Obligation , Pension , or Reward , when their Senate is Assembled , causeth Proclamation ( before shutting of the doors ) to be made , for all Priests to depart , and he who in this Commonwealth , is called the Divine of the State ( an Ecclesiastical Person , to be advised within matters of Religion ) is commonly chosen such a one , as is reputed the least Bigot in that Religion , as in the memory of some living , Padri Pauli , and after him Fulgentio , both Successively performed that office , and were esteemed favourers of the Reformation , and corresponders with Diodati of Geneve , and if Papists dare not trust their own Clergy in their Counsels , upon the account of their forein dependance , Protestants upon the same account , have no cause to trust Popish Subjects in their Countries , longer , than until they that are now living , die away , and that they can breed their Children to the Protestant Religion : I am not ignorant , that there are a sort of men , who , with the Author of that Book , intituled The State of England , seek to infuse a belief into the people , that the dispensing with the Laws against the Papists , is necessary for the prevention of persecution to Protestant Subjects , by their Popish Princes ; but the imposers of that opinion , persumes more upon ignorance , and easie nature , in the most of men , than upon any strength there is in their arguments : for this suggested danger , must referr to Spain , Italy , the Emperour , or the French King ; and for the two first , they have by former Persecutions , ( though not without depopulating of their several Countries ) left no Native Protestants in them ; so that however England shall deal with their own Papists , the King of Spain , nor the Pope , have any Protestant Subjects , to use better , or worse , and for the few reformed Merchant-strangers that are among them , they must ( for their own Interest , in reference to Commerce ) suffer them to enjoy a trading liberty , without having their Religion inquired into , and more than that , they are never likely to have . And as to the Emperour , he being through facility of Nature , acted by the Church , hath ( to almost the ruin of himself , as well as his Protestants ) spent all his Reign hitherto in a grievous and sore persecution of the Reformed in his Hereditarie Countries ( having no power over them in other places of Germany ) for by it , he hath lost a great part of Hungaria , and in a fair way of losing the rest , besides that , he hath thereby much prejudiced Trade , and lessened his people : for even the Protestant Gently and Nobility , who , by birth , have great Immunities , and ought not to be imposed upon in matters of Religion , were ( lately ) some forced to leave their Countries , and others who stayed , to entertain none but Papist Servants in their Families , so that England by no kind of treatment of their Papists , can increase the Emperours persecution ( which is already so high ) of his protestant Subjects . And for the French King , he cannot persecute his Reformed , without breach of the Edict of Nantes ( their Magna Charta ) and several other Laws , giving them as good a right to exercise their Religion , as the Papists have for theirs , making them also capable of all civil offices , privileges , and preferments equal with Papists , and that upon consideration of having been alwayes loyal and faithful to the Crown , so that there is no parity betwixt the French Kings Arbitrary breaking of his Laws , against the reason of them , which hath not yet been forfeited , and which were made ( with acknowledged gratitude ) for the preservation of the reformed . And the King of England , with the continued reason of his Laws ( witness the Massacre in Ireland ) his keeping , and executing them against his Papists , but further , those that observe any thing of France , must confess , that that King , in matters of Religion , regards no examples of others , or any thing but his own designs , as in his present persecution of his reformed Subjects , he may well be judged to aime at the advancing of his reputation , with the Church of Rome , as a means to help him forward in his aspiring designs ; for but few years since , when the Papists were under the most severity in England , the Protestants were under most liberty in France , and now they enjoy the greatest liberty in England , the Reformed are the most persecuted in France : but besides these circumstances , it cannot but be of evil consequence , and a lessening unto Soveraignty , to own the having an eye to other Princes , in the execution of their Laws , for nothing can be more dishonourable to a Prince , than to be under the awe of Forein Potentates in his administration , within his own Dominions ; but this Gentleman doth not alwayes ponder what he writes , for when I consider his sharpness against the Presbyterians &c. in England , calling them Mushromes , Tares , and the Sons of Belial , insinuating the transplantation and extirpation of them , I cannot but wonder he should have so much concern for the reformed abroad , who are the same with the Presbyterians of England , and therefore must judge it to proceed from favour to the Papists , towards whom , he so tenderly avoids all reflections and severity , as if he thought the revolt of a Presbyterian , &c. to Popery , to merit a pardon from transplantation or extirpation , and not from any kindness he can have for the Protestants in other Countries . Nor do I know how to reconcile his boasting of the transcending Charity of the Church of England towards other Churches , with his accusing them of looking upon the Non-consormists of England as bastards , or making no account of any other Interest in them , than a man makes of the Vermin which breed out of his excrementitious sweat , or those Ascarides , which comes sometimes in his most uncleanly parts ; but for such homely expressions , surely the Church of England will not think themselves beholding to him , no more than for rendring them so charitable to those that differ from them both in Doctrine and Discipline , as the Papists do , who are the Church he must mean , and so uncharitable to those that agree with them in all material points of Doctrine , and differ only from them in circumstantials , as the Non-conformists do . Secondly , The growth of Papists in England , ought to be prevented , because there is a kind of natural unaptness to business in that Religion ( compared to the reformed ) as Italy , and Spain , where they are the greatest Bigots , do evidence ; besides , that the same seems to be made good in England , in that for one Papist stranger of business , that is in it , there is thought to be fifty Protestants , or more , though , I fear , that the difference in the number of the one and th' other Religion , is not much , and the fewer idle , and unprofitable persons any Country hath , the more prosperous it must needs be . Thirdly , Because the vast sums of money that go out of England , sent by Papists , to such uses , as they call pious ; for putting young Gentlewomen into Nunneries , and breeding Gentlemens sons in Popish Schools and Universities , is a great impoverishing of the Nation , and so a prejudice to Trade , the School at St. Omers having seldom less than an hundred and twenty English youths , and the Colledge at Doway , eighty or more Students , besides their other Schools , Universities , Convents , and Nunneries , scattered over all the Popish territories , ( sounded on purpose to encrease that Interest in England , corrupt , and pervert their Gentry ) which are too many to enumerate . And lastly , Because the multitude of lazie Priests and Jesuits , sent as Emissaries , to seduce Protestants , and encourage Papists in their errours , are a vast charge to those of that Religion , and in them , to the Nation , without contributing any thing to the good of mankind : And if the French King thinks it his Interest , in order to the rendring himself Protector of the Romish Religion , to suppress his Protestant Subjects , who , by Law , have a right to Liberty of Conscience , equal with the Papists , who own no other Head but their Native King , and who were so faithful to him , that when reduced to the greatest extremities at Rochel , and forced to implore the assistance of England , yet would never depart from their Allegiance , in putting themselves under England , when sollicited to it ; The King of England hath much more reason to think it his Interest , in order to his safety , and making himself Head of the Protestant Party , to suppress the Papists , who own another Head , and so have a Forein Interest , and who are bred to Principles which lead them to a restless plotting against their Sovereigns , if contrary to them in Religion , never joyning with such , but upon design for themselves , holding the murther of King and people , rebellion , or any thing else , which they judge may tend to the propagating of their Religion , lawful , in the case of such as they call Hereticks , as those who have conversed with Papists abroad , where they sometimes speak their hearts , and own their principles , do know , as well as the Gun-powder Treason , the Massacre in Ireland , and the many plots in Queen Elizabeths dayes , ( which cannot be forgotten ) do sufficiently witness : In contemplation whereof were ( I suppose made those wise Statutes , enacting , that the Popish Recusants , shall be restrained to their private houses in the Country , and not at any time after to pass , or remove above five miles from thence , upon pain of forfeiture for life , of all lands , goods , and chattels ; That none of them , convicted , or to be convicted , shall remain within ten miles of London , nor come into the Court , or House , where his Majesty , or Heir apparent shall be , nor have in their own houses , or in the hands or possession of any others , at their disposition , any Arms , Gun-powder , or Ammunition whatsoever ; and by the Book of Thanksgiving appointed for the fifth of November , set forth by King James and the Parliament , it is enjoyned to pray upon that day , for the strengthening of the hand of the King and Magistrates of the land , to cut off with Judgment and Justice , those workers of iniquity , the Papists , whose Religion is Rebellion , whose Faith is Faction , whose practice is the Murthering of Souls and Bodies , and to root them out of the Confines of the Kingdome . And now , since the wisdome of the Nation hath judged the Papists so dangerous , it may seem strange , that putting the Laws in execution against the Non-conformists , should be thought a good reason for the prosecution of them , and be none against the other , of whose dangerons principles there hath been such large experience ; some observations here may peradventure be thought strained and new , as that is a kind of Natural unapness in the Popish Religion to business , whereas , on the contrary , amongst the Reformed , the greater their zeal , the greater is their inclinations to Trade and Industry , as holding Idleness unlawful , but experience in most places makes it good : as in Spain and Italy , no one City can boast of any great Trade driven by their Natives , the greatest part of their Commerce being carried on by Protestant strangers , Amsterdam alone , having more Trade than all the Sea Towns of Italy and Spain have , put together : but to come closer to the Observation ; In Germany , even in those Cities where they are Papists , without toleration to any other , there the Reformed may be said to carry all the Trade , as at Colne , in other Towns where they are Lutherans , with a publick toleration to Papists , which is denied to Calvinists , there the reformed carry the Trade clearly from both Lutherans and Papists , the latter having little , as at Frankford , upon the Main . In other places , where the Cities are half Papists , half Lutherans , without toleration to any other , there the latter have the Trade , as at Augsburgh . In France , the Reformed , for their number , are the greatest Traders , though that people , being looser from the Bishop of Rome than Spain or Italy , are more given to Industry , than either of those Nations ; but yet , that the Reformed are by much the more Industrious , appears , in that they have no beggars amongst them , though calculated to exceed three or four millions of souls ; it having been observed by one that travelled France round , and crossed it several wayes , that in all his travels in it , he never met with one Protestant beggar , and yet the multitudes of Popish , are such , that it hath upon tryal been sound , that in going from the City of Rouen in Normandy , to the Protestants Church ( two English miles and an half out of town ) to give every beggar but that which they call a double , ( hardly the sixth part of a penny ) will cost a Lewis d'or , which is at least 17 s. sterling . These Instances cannot be denied by any traveller , that hath been curious to enquire into the condition of these places ; and examples are the same in Politicks , as experience is in Naturals . Upon my own observation hereof , being inquisitive after the reason , a person of Quality , and Minister of State to one of the Electors of Germany , with whom I had the honour to be acquainted , granted the truth of these things , but went no farther for the reasons , than that the Religion of the reformed , was an argument of their wit , and that their Understandings made them the abler Merchants . And now , upon the whole , since it appears that Trade depends much upon Liberty of Conscience , the suggestions against it , either from unexperienced , or concerned persons , are not to be regarded ; Country Gentlemen , bred only at home , to a Religion which exacts little from them , besides , Conformity to humane Ceremonies , with opposition to every thing that is contrary , being tenacious of that which is so pleasing and grateful to snail Nature , are not generally competent Judges of this Interest , nor yet any sort of people , who , having spent their dayes in studying Books , more than Men , or Things , employing themselves more in punishing tender Consciences for not obeying in the Worship of God , the Commandments of men , than in the weightiest duties of their Callings , as in suppressing Papists , ignorant , debauched and scandalous Ministers , rendring their actions thereby to proceed more from Self-interest , than an enlightned and sincere Conscience , are not in this case against demonstrations to be harkened unto . And indeed , it is a work most suitable unto Soveraignty , the Grand child of Henry the great of France , and the large experience of his Majesty in cases of Religion in other Countries , to surmount all selfish opposition in this matter , for the advancement of his own Interest , and the good of his people , which whatsoever flatterers may suggest to the contrary , are bound up together . I know that the enemies to Liberty of Conscience , do impose upon the world , an apprehension of danger in it ; but the position hath no foundation in reason , presidents , or any thing else , save a confident running down of truth , for their own advantage , it no where appearing , that ever Protestants dissenting from their National Church , having Liberty of Conscience given them , did rise up against their King , or disturbed the quiet of their Countrey , as those of the Romish Church have in all Ages , and Nations , done . For as the Reformed Religion obligeth its Members to worship God according to his will revealed in his word , so keeping good Consciences in that , it teacheth them obedience to their Soveraigns , in civil commands . It is confessed , that the old Waldenses , Subjects of the Duke of Savoy , have sometimes fled to Arms for defence of themselves , in the exercise of their Religion ; but although the advantages they have often had of their Princes , have been great , yet no sooner was ever Liberty granted them , then they laid down Arms , returning again to obedience , in which they alwayes continued , until their Articles were broke , which ( contrary to Faith ) was frequently done : and the like cannot be denyed unto the Protestants of France , Hungary , and other places , whereas on the contrary , antient and modern Story , afford us plentiful relations of those of the Romish Religion , rising up against their Kings , when they have had full liberty in Religion , and no restraint upon them in their worship : as who were greater Instruments in the Barons Wars in England , against their Kings , and in the changes that followed thereupon , than the Church in time of Popery ; were not the many Tragedies , acted antiently in Scotland , in such times , when they were all Papists ? Did not the Romish Catholicks in France , notwithstanding theirs was the National Religion , depose , and degrade , their lawful Soveraign Henry the 4th . the Parliament of Tholouse , in his absence , arraigning , and condemning him to death , executing him in his Effigies by Harquebushes , none of which Traiterous and Rebellious usage , did that great and excellent King ( Grandfather of His Majesty of England ) although he recovered all by force of Arms , in the least revenge ; by which generous , as well as politick carriage , he added to the Conquest of his Country , the conquest of the hearts of all his people , reconciling at once all the animosities and factions , which had been the product of near forty years civil war : Are they not Papists in Spain and Portugal , where , in our time , have been so many revolts and mutations , with the deposition , or confinement of the present King of Portugal ; the late Confederates in Poland against their King , were all Papists , and of a Country where Popery is the National Religion . The present French Kings danger , in 1650 , &c. was from his Popish , and was delivered chiefly by his reformed Subjects . The Papists in Ireland had ( as none can deny ) liberty for exercise of their Religion , exceedingly above what the Non-conformists had at that time , when they committed that not to be parallelled bloudy , and more than barbarous Massacre , in the year 1641. Nay , the steadie greatness and quiet of Sweeden , is of no elder date , than since they cast off Popery , pulled down their Bishops , and embraced Protestantism , the Church , having been , until then , the occasion of much trouble unto that Kingdome . And none of these particulars , being deniable , the Papists cannot , without great impudence , boast ( as many of them do ) of their fidelity to their Princes , accusing the Protestants with want of it , and especially since if these instances were not enough to make good the assertion , that the Protestants are the best , and Papists the wo●st of Subjects , the like might be observed of every individual Country and Nation in the Christian part of Europe , in the times of Popery ; but supposing these to be sufficient , I shall not give my self any farther trouble , upon this point , or other domestick concern of England , but proceed to the external importances of that Kingdome . And first , As the Foreign Interest of a Nation looks outward , and in order to its good and preservation , regards the actings and designs of Foreign Princes and States ( especially their Neighbours ) endeavouring to reduce them to that which may most agree with their own good and safety , so it is the Interest of the King and Kingdome of England , to make use of the advantages their strength and situation gives them , in weighing the Imperial powers of Christendome , keeping the balance , by adding to , or diminishing from any of them , as best suits with Justice , and their own Interests . And as undoubtedly His Majesty hath done more than any since good Queen Elizabeth ( if for a short time a sort of people not fit to be remembred did not the same ) in hitting upon his true Forein Interest , in that triple League of which he was the Author , and into which he hath , with so much wisdome and prudence lately entered , for opposing all growing greatness by Sea or Land , in the French , they being already too potent for their bordering Neighbours , so constantly and effectually to adhere thereunto , in joyning with all others to that end ; and particularly with Spain , with whom England hath a much more profitable Trade than with France , is ( according to present affairs ) the same ; For should France , by the acquisition of those convenient Provinces and ports of the Netherlands , become Competitors with England in Trade , ( to say no worse of them ) they would , in a short time , make good Sir Walter Rawleighs Character of them , in being false , insolent , and covetous neighbours . Secondly , As England and the Vnited Netherlands ( which are , in ordinary discourse understood by the name of Holland , that Province , by way of eminence , giving denomination unto the whole ) are the two great Masters of Naval strength , and seated with such advantages for assisting each other , that whilst a true intelligence is preserved betwixt them , it is not in nature for all their enemies , combining together to prejudice either of them , so it is the true Interest of England , to maintain a firm and perpetual friendship and union with them ; and that , First , Because as the Netherlands are naturally strong , so they are above all other Countries , fitted by situation , for the use of England , to give check to any aspiring Prince , and be as invincible bulwarks , against the all devouring designs of the French King , in being able at any time , with the countenance of England , to destroy him at Sea , who being brought down there , and so in his Commerce , will soon abate of his power at Land ; and surely nothing can be more for the security of Europe , than to reduce the Naval strength of that threatning King , within former bounds , for the world found , that untill the Spaniard lost his Maritime force , in the year 1639. which he never after recovered , he maintained his design for the Universal Monarchy , very vigorously , and never sunk till then . Secondly , Because it is equally their Interest , with England , in reference to their Navigation , to keep the ballance betwixt the Northern Kings and Sovereigns , not suffering any of them to engross that Sea , because Naval Commodities coming thence , neither of them can be safe , longer than the Sea remains divided among several Princes and States , whose general Interest it can never be to deny them necessaries for their shipping ( the chief walls of their several Countries ) or a general Trade with them , as a Monarch , he being sole Master of the whole , would peradventure , in some cases , judge it his , and presume to refuse them all accommodations ; and this principle , the States of Holland , have wisely , in our dayes , several times owned , as in the years 1643. in siding with the Crown of Sweeden , when the Danes would ( had not the States assistance been in the way ) have run them down at Sea ; as also on the contrary , in the year 1658 , in taking part with the Danes , when the Swedes had otherwise done the like by them , by which means , both the Crowns are preserved , and kept within tolerable limits and bounds . Thirdly , Because that as Providence seems to have placed them with conveniencies for joyning with England , in keeping all other Maritime Princes , or Powers , in order so , without any capacity of being dangerous to their Neigh-Neighbours , their Constitution being such , as will not well admit of any further acquists . Fourthly , Because as England and Holland , are of one and the same Religion , save in some Ceremonies , so it would be of great incouragement , and countenance to all the Protestant Countries , to have a firm League betwixt two such for midable Powers , of their own belief , and as great a trouble and disturbance , to all the Popish Counsels . Fifthly , Because the world having had such large experience of the happy success of their Conduct , in being principal Instruments in preventing the House of Austria in their grand design for the universal Monarchy , and consequently , in the propagation of the reformed Religion , as well as at several times , in preventing both Dane and Sweed , from either of them devouring the other ; it were surely high impolity , as well as in some degree ingratitude , to suffer such useful instruments and allies , to whom this Generation is so much obliged , for their wise and excellent management of the general Interest of these parts of Europe , to be destroyed . These States I know have many enemies , some envying their Trade and Riches , others their revolt from the King of Spain , as of bad example , and the Church of Rome , their established National Religion , as that which is past shaking ; but because none of these arguments can be plausibly made use of against them by the Papists , who dreads the conjunction of England with them , nor by those Princes , and States , who assisted them in their revolt , the grand reason for subducing of them , is made the greatness of their Trade , which being destroyed , would be divided amongst their Neighbours , loading them sometimes untruly , with accusations of unjust dealings , exactions , and falseness ; to which I shall only answer this , that although I have no cause to become an Advocate for them , from any advantages or benefit received , yet having travelled their Countries , observed their Manners , and read their Disputes , and Transactions with other Nations , I think it but an Act of Justice to acknowledge , that in the generality of their Morals , they are a reproach to some Nations , ( and particularly , in so little using that art of over-valuing their Commodities in their selling to France , who so shamefully use and practise it ) and as to their Treaties , and Alliances , after which I have been inquisitive , I have sometimes found them wrongfully charged with breach of Articles , and do not find cause to accuse them of having been in the observance of Treaties , less candid , or faithful , than other Countries , and I cannot think , their Trade , or Wealth , ( although I believe , that Holland singly taken , is the richest spot of ground for its bigness , that ever was since the Creation ) to be a good or honest foundation of a quarrel : for their Commerce being alone the effects of Industry , and Ingenuity , it is no reason for any to be angry with others , because they exceed them in these Virtues ; but besides , that the destroying of the Netherlands , would be the shaking the safety of these Northern Regions , the increase of Trade to other Countries , so much promised by some in their destruction , would surely fail ; for were Trade ruined in Holland , as less cannot be the effects of Conquest and Slavery , the example and emulation of their Trade , which hath been the great increase of it in other Countries , being taken away , and Trade fallen to a sort of people of less concern for it , men would grow lazy and weary of Commerce , every one thinking they did well , so long , as they were upon equal terms with their Neighbours ; so that the subversion of Holland , would be no benefit to any , save to the French King , into whose mouth their Country would most fall , who wanting nothing for the making of him uncontroulable , but Havens and Ports to harbour Ships , nourish and breed Seamen , would find supply there , and whose Kingdom , being over-stocked with people , would be able to spair men to plant an un-inhabited Countrey , as would certainly be the fate of Holland , under a Conquest and Arbitrary Government , as it hath been to all the free Cities in Tuscany and Italy , since they lost their Liberty ; whereas England wanting neither Havens nor Ports , nor having an over-plus of people , it would be a dammage to them in the loss of their Inhabitants , and an unprofitable charge to maintain Forein Colonies , where the Seas must be perpetually crossed for supplying of them with men , monie , and necessaries ; insomuch , that the Netherlands , under such circumstances as they would be reduced unto by subduing of them , would not be in the hands of the English , so much for their own security , as in theirs that now possess them , for restraint and freedome makes so great difference in prosperity , that less than Liberty , incouraging Trade and Industry , would never be able to maintain their Walls against the Sea , which are kept up with incredible labour , charge , and ingenuity , but expose those parts lying upon the Sea , which are many times more considerable than all the rest , to be devoured by it , or laid much under water , and so rendred inconsiderable . And the truth of this principle in thus much advancing the benefit of freedom above Arbitrary Government , which would be the lot of Holland under any Conquerour , may be observed by the two Cities of Wesell and Mastrick , which whilst in the hands of the Spaniard , were without Trade , miserable , wretched , and poor , many of the houses of the latter being left in ruines by the Inhabitants , as wanting ability to repair them ; and now in less than 38 or 39 years , that the States have been Masters of them , they are both become flourishing places , the latter being in a great part new built , with one of the fairest and best new publick Town-house that is ordinarily met with , next Amsterdam , and Augustbourg in Germany . But if there were not these considerations in the case , as well as that of the advantage that the fall of Holland would be to the French , which alone is sufficient to ingage England to support them , it could no way be the Interest of England to ruine them , to the end to increase their own Trade , because if their aims be only traffick , the world affords matter enough to satisfie both Nations , and that England hath so much the advantage of Holland in natural helps for Trade , that if they do but improve them , they cannot miss of exceeding all others in it ; and if they will be careless of their common concerns , they ought not to draw an argument from their own neglects and sloth , for the envying other mens activity and diligence . And lastly , so long as a firm Peace and amity is maintained by England with the Netherlands , they may look upon them as the out-works , which must be first taken in by any invader that will attempt them , for as it never can be the Interest , or in the power of Holland , to invade England , so their Interest in reference to Religion , as well as Civil security , will alwayes oblige them not to suffer any others to do it , or to endanger them , in whose safety they can onely be safe , it being the clear Interest of England not to suffer any other Potentate to subvert their Government : So that upon the whole , since the subduing of Holland cannot be a benefit but losse to England , and may be of great advantage to France , and the Church of Rome , against which they are impregnable Fortresses ; with some smaller profit to other Popish Soveraignes bordering upon them ; as to the Elector of Colne , and Bishop of Munster , &c. It must be the chief Forreign Interrest of England to support the present Governmeut of Holland . Thirdly , It is the Interest of England to hold a good Correspondence with Spain , not onely because that People being little inclinable to Commerce gives a Trading Countrey the more advantage in their Friendship , but also for that that Crowne is necessarily to be made use of , for the ballancing of France . Fourthly , and lastly , as the French King striveth for the Protectorship of the Romish profession , so it is surely the King of England's Interest , to render himself ( wherein he can have no opposition ) the General Protector of the Protestant Religion ; whereby he will become more formidable , and glorious , then he can by other means : For as Queen Elizabeth , adhering thoroughly , and cordially to that Party ; advancing the Religion , holding intelligence , and taking part with them in all their engagements , and considerable treaties ; was not onely able in the infancy of the reformation in England , to maintain the reformed in Scotland , France , and the Netherlands , against their Enemies , their then seveveral Soveraignes , but also , at last to bring down Philip the second of Spain ( one of the wisest , and greatest Kings they ever had ) and in him , the whole Popish Party ; by which her memory is made famous unto posterity ; so his Majesty having many lesse difficulties , to struggle with , than she had by espousing the same principles , cannot fail of the like glorious success . And now , to sum up the Domestick Interest of England , it lyeth in the advancement of Trade , by removing all obstructions both in City and Country , providing such Laws , as may any way help it , and make it most easie , especially in giving Liberty of Conscience to all Protestant Non-conformists , and denying it to Papists ; In not covering Foreign Conquests , which have alwayes been prejudicial and can never be of advantage to them : and retrench the unreasonable Fees of Lawyers , Physicians , and Officers , as they are great iimpoverishers of the Nation : And as to the Foreign Interest of England , that may be calculated , to be in keeping the balance among their Neighbours , and other European Princes , being in order thereunto , firm to their present tripple League , and in that especially to Holland , in holding a good correspondence with Spain , and in being jealous of all growing greatness in the French , keeping the Baltick Sea open , in His Majesties making himself Protector of the whole Protestant party , and as Peace is the adadvancer of Trade , to seek it , and not war , except an inavoidable necessity require it . And thus I shall conclude this Chapter , and in it , the Interest of England , with begging pardon of the Author of that Book , intituled , A Discourse of Ecclesiastical politie , for my Non-conformity to his Doctrine , which teacheth , That it is safer for a Prince to allow Vice and Debauchery , than Liberty of Conscience , whereby he prefers the breach of the ten Commandments , and that which the whole Word of God , the Old and New Testament , the Law and Gospel , so dreadfully threatens , and declares against , before that , which neither the practise of our Saviour , nor his Apostles , nor any Text in Scripture forbids , or at least , himself being Judge , not positively , and indisputably , as they do the other ; wherein , I confess , I am so far from agreeing with him , as also in many of his other railing principles , not much better , that I think the Church of England hath reason to wish his Book had been writ by some of another Coat , and of a more remote relation to the Church , then the Author is reputed to be , by reason of the advantage that their enemies may have , of drawing arguments from it , to prove their old Charge , that the power of godliness is so far from being held out , in the Lives , Conversations , and Principles of many of their Priests , that they rather seek to debauch , and make the people wicked and profane . This is all I have at present to say of this Country , besides adventuring to Prophesie , that when England , ( neglecting Church Politicks , which are commonly founded in passion , revenge , and self , and Lawyers Divinity , which is generally collected out of their own Books , more than the Books of God ) will effectually pursue their true Interest , they cannot fail ( their natural advantages for trade considered ) of being more great and glorious than any other Nation . FINIS . Notes, typically marginal, from the original text Notes for div A27543-e80 * The late Dutch War. Notes for div A27543-e480 * State of England , pag , 434 , 435 , 436. State of England , pa. 60. 61 , 62. State of England The History of the Siege of Rochell . The Grecian and Armenian Popish cong●egations , &c. Interest of Holland . The Edict of Nantes granted by Henry 4th . 30 April , 1593. The Edict of Nantes , confirmedly Lewis 13th . the 22 May , 1610. and again 10 Nov. 16●5 . and by Lewis 14th . the 8 July , 1643. confirmed in Parliament , 3 Aug. 1643. and again confirmed by the said Lewis 14th . this present King , the 21 May , 1652. State of England , pa. 50 , 56 , 60. King James his Proclamations , 22 Feb. 1603. and 10 Janu. 1606. & the preamb. of the Stat. of 35 Eliz. cap. 2. 35 Eliz. ch . 2. and 3 Jacob. ch . 5. Duke of Rohan his Memoires . Sir Walter Rawleighs Cabinet Counsellor .