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Stulta est clementia , cum tot Vbique Vatibus occurras , periturae parcere Chartae . LONDON , Printed for W. Kettilby , at the Bishops Head in St. Paul's Church-Yard . 1685. AN APOLOGIE FOR THE Church of England , Against the CLAMOURS Of the Men of No-Conscience . THAT the House of Commons now Elected , and within a very fews day to Sit , is one of the most Loyal that this Nation has seen at any time since the Death of Queen Elizabeth , is I suppose not doubted by any Man who has at all considered either who has Chosen them , or who has been Chosen . Whence then proceeds the insufferable Insolence and Impetuosity of the Dissenters from the Church of England just at this time , and where may one guess the Design to terminate ? Liberty of Conscience is no new Plea , it has fed the Press , yea and maintain'd many of its Patrons too almost ever since the Year 1660. For before that time , we had no great kindness for the Doctrine , but only in relation to those who had imbroyl'd three Nations in Blood and Misery ; and yet all they could not find in their hearts to allow it to their own dear Brethren neither , for the Presbyterians opposed , and both wrote and Preached what they could against it , as has been proved beyond a possibility of Contradiction from their own Prints ; and when they were reduced to so low a Condition , that they could neither grant nor deny it , Oliver Cromwell and the Independant Party would never grant this Liberty , either to the Roman Catholicks , or to the Members of the Church of England ; and which was more than Barbarous , they would not suffer CHARLES the First of Blessed Memory , when under restraint by them , to have any one of his own Chaplains with him , which Extorted this bitter Complaint from him . To deny me the Ghostly Comfort of my Chaplains , seems a greater Rigour and Barbarity than is ever used by Christians to the meanest Prisoners and greatest Malefactors , whom tho' the Justice of the Law deprived of worldly Comforts , yet the Mercy of Religion allows them the Benefit of their Clergy , as not aiming at once to destroy their Bodies and to damn their Souls . But my Agony must not be relieved with the Presence of any one good Angel ; for such I account a Learned , Godly , and Discreet Divine . And a little before this , he has this Expression . The Solitude they have confin'd me unto , adds the Wilderness to my Temptations ; for the Company they obtrude upon me , is more sad than any Solitude can be . When after this they had inhumanly Murthered him and the Duke of Richmond , the Marquess of Hertford , and the Earls of Southampton and Lindsey , together with the Bishop of London , had taken upon them the Care and Charge of Interring their Murdered Master , and thereupon Petitioned with great Humility to have Liberty to Read the Liturgie appointed for that Purpose ; it was denyed , and they forced to Deposite him in Silence and Sorrow . How the English Puritans treated the Son after the Death of the Father , is very well known , but they of Scotland pretended to oblige him , Call'd him in , and promised to Crown him . But did they allow him the Liberty of his Conscience ? No , he must take the Covenant first , and be converted . And one Evening walking in the Garden , a couple of Dapper Covenant-Levites making up to him , very severely chid him for Profaning the Lords Day by a Walk , tho' he had heard two Sermons , and been publickly at Morning and Evening Prayers that day , besides other private Meditations he was much given to . This was all the Liberty of Conscience they would allow their Prince in Scotland ; whereas in England they sought his Blood. How they treated the Episcopal or Prelatical Party during the Rebellion is well enough remembred , and after the King was restored , and the Laws thereby return'd to their former Force and Vigor , yet they pretended even then , to fear they had sinn'd against the Lord , by suffering Popery ( so they call'd the Service of the Church of England ) to be set up ; and did what they could to hinder it . Till an Act of Parliament brought them under . And ever since the Act of Uniformity passed , they have been Bauling for Liberty of Conscience . At length in the beginning of 1672 , they by the assistance of the Roman Catholicks , obtained an Indulgence of the Late King , what use did they make of it ? Why , one of the furious Dissenters suspected the kindness , and made Queries upon the Declaration , wherein he represented it as a Stratagem to introduce Pope●y and Arbitrary Government . And though there were others which defended it with that inconvenience annexed to it , till they were in a Capacity to do their own business without them ; yet after they had set a foot the Popish Plot , and possess'd themselves of the Affections of the Populace , then the Note was altered , and the Papists ( was declared ) one whose Worship to us is Idolatry , and we cannot therefore allow them the Liberty of Publick Assembling , as others of the Separation . This very passage but five years before was Worded thus . But as for the Common Papist , who lives Innocently in his way , he is to us ( the Dissenters ) as other Separatists , and so comes under the like Toleration . So in 1675 it was lawful to tolerate the Popish Recusants , because they could not be Tolerated themselves without their assistance : But in 1680. when they were in their Ruff , and had as they thought , brought all under their Feet , then it was unlawful . And now again in 1685. it is not only become Lawful , but absolutely necessary . These are your Men of Conscience ! I pray what was the pretended Reason for Excluding His present Majesty ? Resolved , Nemine contradicente , That the Duke of York 's being a Papist , and the hopes of his coming such to the Crown , hath given the greatest countenance and encouragement to the present Designs and Conspiracies against the King and Protestant Religion . Resolved , That a Bill be brought in to disable the Duke of York to inherit the Imperiul Crown of this Realm . Well , but one of them tells us , Now. Who knows not , that they were such as hardly knew how to Pray , but out of our Liturgy , that attempted to Exclude the Presumptive Heir to the Crown , upon the score of his Religion . Another follows the cry thus , Let him ( the Answerer ) be just , and he will find the Excluders almost every Sunday at their Parish Churches , and if three quarters of them were to pray for their Lives , it may be they could better read their Clergy , than say their Prayers without the Publick Liturgy . The other quarter tho' were gifted Brethren in this Gentleman's esteem , whereas with the former they were all Church of England Men. Why the Author of Julian the Apostate will tell you , the Addressers , with a brave and warm Zeal for the Protestant Religion , and a Protestant Prince , generously offered their Lives and Fortunes , and the last drop of Blood in defence of his Majesty , and the Religion now Established by Law , and by the same Lives and Fortunes and last drop of Blood , are promised over again to a Popish Successour . What is this ( saith he ) but clapping cold Snow upon the head of all their Protestant Zeal ? For he that offers his Service to both these together , lists himself under two the most Adverse Parties in the World , and is Guelph and Gibeline both at once . What Benefit a Popish Successour can reap from Lives and Fortunes spent in defence of the Protestant Religion , he may put in his Eyes : And what the Protestant Religion gets by Lives and Fortunes spent in the Service of a Popish Successor , will be over the left Shoulder . The poor Levice was fain to rifle the Alcoran for a simile to represent this Contradiction by . Now , Gentlemen , were these Addressers Church of England Men , or Dissenters ? Was this Book cryed up by Whiggs or Tories ? It is but five years ago since the Vote pass'd , less since Julian was Printed ; rub up your Memories , and try if you can possibly recollect who was for the Exclusion , and who was against it . Who addressed to the Oxford Members , and who to the King , after the Dissolution of the Oxford Parliament , and then tell me , if your Fore-heads be not a little steel'd to talk at this rate ; and whereabouts a Dissenters Conscience may be found , before we allow it Liberty . Well , but Liberty of Conscience is the thing they want , and must have it if it be possible ; but all the Craft is in the catching ; now they know that the Law stands in the way , and how to get rid of that is the difficulty . First , They accost the King , and impudently tell him , that they , good Men , never attempted to Exclude him , and the consequence is , that he must grant them Liberty of Conscience . Why , if they had never attempted it , this was but a Negative Obligation and goes no further , than if I should accost a Great Man I never saw before , and beg a Favour , because I never did him an Injury . But here the King knows the contrary , that they did attempt to Exclude him , and had certainly passed an Act to that purpose , if the late King had not , with the assistance of the Lords , and Loyal true Church of England Men , oppos'd and baffled them . Well , but suppose he would help them to the thing they want , there are established Laws in his way , and he cannot repeal them , but by other Laws , and they must pass in Parliament , and by the Consent of the Lords and Commons , and time enough it had been to have made their Application to him and them in Parliament ; but of what use are these numerous Pamphlets in the mean time , but to fire the Rabble , make them ungovernable ? And suppose the King should , to gratifie them , do it by his Prerogative , without Act of Parliament , as the late King did , what Reason hath he to expect any other return than his Brother found , and that is to be represented forthwith to the Nation , as one that designed to introduce Arbitrary Government and Popery , and so to have his Throne undermin'd , and his Government made unsafe and uneasie . And in the mean time have they not gone as far as they could , or durst , since his Establishment , to imbroyl his affairs , to chuse those very Men into this Parliament , that endeavoured to Exclude him in three last . And is there not now Arms bought , and Ships put to Sea , to the intent to invade his Dominions , by those of this Party , that have fled for attempting to Murder him at the Rie , with his Brother the late King ? And have they not endeavoured to recommend his Rival to the People here , tho' there was no body to back them . And after all this , is it reasonable that he should loose the Reins , and give Liberty to such enraged , false , perfidious Men as these are , who have done what they could to ruin him , in spite of all restraint ? Believe me , they expect no such thing from him , but make all the impudent applications to make him more odious to the Party , by his denial . Well , they seem to have little reason to expect any favour from the King , but what Friends may they expect in the States in this Parliament . As to the Church of England Lords and Commons , they have laid the Bill of Exclusion at their Doors , turn'd over all the Excluders to them , and washed their own hands of them , as Pilot did of our Saviour's Blood , with a See you to it , I am innocent : Now , as this is the most impudent falshood that ever was spoken by Men , so it is the basest Reproach , the basest dishonour , and , I doubt not , but they will accordingly resent it , when time shall serve . But many , I might say almost all the Commons , have been most basely traduced by these Men , for sticking to the King against the Excluders ; many of them were excluded out of the Westminster and Oxford Parliament for Papists , Abhorrers , and Favourers of Papists ; or as the word was Adherents to the Papists ; many of them have been sent for up into Custody , turn'd out of the House with Disgrace , imprison'd and put to great Charges for their Loyalty , all of them have been designed for Slaughter and Ruin , as MEN-WORTHY by the WORTHY-MEN . And after all this , can they expect they will throw up the Laws , and put themselves into the power of these Furies ? Is this the way to bespeak their Pity , or obtain their Favour ? As to the Bishops , which make the other part of the upper House , what Injury could the Wit of Man devise , which in the time of the late Popish Plot they did not heap upon them , to make them odious to the King , and to the People ? Did they not dispute their Priviledges in Parliament , endeavour to make them appear guilty of the Plot , did they not traduce them as this Kings fast Friends , and therefore Enemies to the Protestant Religion ? And in all the late Pamphlets have they not represented them , as the worst of Men , together with the rest of the Loyal Clergy ? Take off the thing that pinches , take off Prosecution , do but change the Saddles , and set them both aright , and see then whether the Church-men , or the Fanaticks and Catholicks will be most Governable . That is , persecute the Church-men , and bestow the Bishoppricks , and Church Revenues amongst the Catholicks and Phanaticks , and see which will be best qualited , best pleased , most Humble , and most Dutiful Subjects . A rare expedient ! Well , but when all other helps fails , they expect some assistance from the Roman Catholicks . His Grace leads the Dance , and shews some kindness for Transubstantiation , page the 7th . The Reply tells , One thing I must say , Roman Catholicks have been Loyal in England and Holland , and Presbyterians in France , and the German Principalities , page 22. Well , but how have you and your Tribe rewarded them for their Loyalty ? Another thus , As a variety of Flowers may grow on the same Bank , so may Protestants and Papists live in England , Vnion in Affection is not inconsistent with disagreement of Opinion , &c. Considerations moving to a Toleration and Liberty of Conscience , page the 3d , Consideration the 6th . The Pensilvanian tells us , he cannot but admire His ( the Answerer's ) Wisdom , Manners , or Justice , in his Reflections upon the Roman Catholicks , after the Assurances that so great an one of their Communion has given him and his Friends of their Security and Protection , page the 26th . And now , are not the Roman Catholicks bound to give him thanks for his great Civility to them , who have done worse , both by them , and the great Man of their Communion , than barely to reflect on them , though they have done that sufficiently too . Remember the Character of a Popish Successor , the Virulent Appeal to the City , Julian the Apostate , the Fanatick Plot , the use these Good Men made of the late Toleration , and tell me if these are not a sort of Trusty Friends for Roman Catholicks to rely on . Doubtless it is as little their interest to procure a Toleration for the Dissenters , as it is that of the Church Men , as things now stand , and they are wise Men , and know it ; and if the Liberty of Conscience-Men were not Num-skulls , they would never have made these fulsome Applications at this time of the day . Well , but whatever the Dissenters have been , there are three or four small Pamphleteers will give the King their worshipful words for their good behaviour for the Future , In good time . But suppose it proves otherwise , what then ? Why he is deceived , they good Men will cry , who could have thought it ? But I will answer this in the Words of the Noble Peer , the late Earl of Shaftsbury , a special Friend of theirs . If a French Nobleman ( saith he ) should come to dwell in my House and Family , I should think it concern'd me to a●k what he did in France , for if he were there a Felon , a Rogue , a Plunderer , I should desire hem to live else-where , and I hope your Lordships will do the same thing for the Nation , if you find the same cause . Now there is no need of an enquiry here , we have tryed them , and know by experience , what they are , and then his Lordship will inform us what we are to do . But we are told , all the ill things they have done , is because there are Laws made against them , and they would be quiet , if they might have their minds . As to the first of these , ex malis Moribus bonae oriuntur Leges , there was ill and disloyol Practices against the State , by Seditious Sectaries , before there was any Law made against them . Look into the preamble of the 35 of Eliz. c. 1. which was the first Law that was made against them , and see if be not so ; and as for all the rest , we can remember upon what occasions they were made . And now , if they were so turbulent before there was any Law , and have been so unruly and ungovernable , notwithstanding the Laws have hung over their Heads , and have some times been seasonably Executed upon them , what may we expect they will be , when the Laws , and , with them , all Fear and Aw is removed ? Men of Wisdom will try as few Conclusions in point of Government as is possible , because they weaken Authority and strengthen Factions . And I am fully perswaded , these Gentlemen do no more hope to obtain a Toleration , than I fear they will ; they do neither Write nor Act as if they did : What then is the Design ? Why it is hard to dive into the Secrets of Men , but yet a Man may conjecture at them with submission to wiser Heads . First , upon his now Majesties coming to the Crown , the whole Party were Thunder-struck , they knew how they had used him , and therefore expected he would treat them , tho' not as they deserved , yet otherwise than they desired , and fearing at once his Valour , Justice , Activity and Constancy , they sat down in Silence and Sorrow , expecting the Event , and who would be in an Insurrection . Hereupon all the Trimmers and Half-way Men began to tack about , to take the Sacrament , go to Church , Vote for Loyal Men , imagining the Game was lost , and no hopes of another Revolution . No room for Seditious prate , Cogging nor Flattery . In this Melancholly Mood his Grace found them when he Published his Essay , and it was a Work which no meaner Person durst have began . But we see there is enough that will follow . Secondly , the Parliament drawing on apace , they expect the Press will then be restrain'd , so that what they do , they must do quickly ; for their Affairs are desperate and meer desperation , makes them Valiant , and if they cannot prevent the fatal Blow , they will yet try if they cannot Revenge it , and render the Church Party odious . Lastly , it is very probable they have some encouragement from their Friends in Holland , and whilst they are preparing for a descent in Scotland , this is a Stratagem to Alarm the Party in England , and to let them see the Cause is not quite lost yet ; there are those that will stick to it , and appear for Liberty of Conscience , Hector the Church , and plead for a forgetfulness of what ever is past , that they may be in a Capacity to react all their old Crimes over again . And if they meet with the least encouragement either at home or abroad , the least countenance or belief , I can easily foretel what the Event will be . But if they find neither to suite their desires , and that the next Parliament prove what they fear it will , the People of the Whig Party must bear the smart , and the Pamphleteers have only lost so much Paper and Time. And if any of the Tribe fall into the Hands of Justice for it , they hope to get more by the Compassion , than they shall lose by the Suffering . The Conclusion . Thus do Men of No-Conscience , no Honour nor Honesty , pretend to be the Advocates for the Tender Consciences of other Men , who have not much more than themselves . If this Censure seems sharp , let any Man consider how False and Impudent a thing it is to Sham the late Excluders upon the Church of England , an Honest Turk would have scorn'd so base a Practice within five years after the Fact , and in a Case wherein the whole Nation knows the contrary . Now let no Man pretend to have a mighty Reverence for God , or any Form of Religion , who has not a little Veneration for Morality , a Man of a Tender Conscience will never dare to lie and dissemble with God and Man. And whereas they pretend the Church of England Party , especially the Clergy , Persecute them out of Worldly Interest and Carnal Policy , I desire they would tell me how Christ can be the Head of opposite Bodies : And consider this Place of Scripture , and bless the World with a Commentary on it . Revelations II. 20. Notwithstanding , I have a few things against thee , because thou Sufferest ( or Toleratest ) that Woman Jezebel , which calleth her self a Prophetess ( a Godly Woman ) to teach and to seduce my Servants to commit Fornication , and to eat things Sacrificed to Idols . Now I would fain know how long Toleration has been a Christian Virtue . FINIS . Notes, typically marginal, from the original text Notes for div A28555-e180 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Chap. 24. Dr. Bates his History of the Rise and Progress of the late Troubles , the 2d . Part , p. 96. in English . Preface to the unreasonableness of Sepation , p. 25 , 26. Novem. 1680. A Reply to the Answer of the Man of No Name . The Pensilvanian , pag. 27. Preface . Vox Patriae . The Defence of the D. of Buck page the 4th . Address to the Freemen . Part the 2d . pag. 52.