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A30646 R22769 (Wing B6171). civilwar no The protestation protested: or, a short remonstrance, shewing what is principally required of all those that have or doe take the last Parli Burton, Henry 1641 7163 48 5 0 0 0 0 74 D The rate of 74 defects per 10,000 words puts this text in the D category of texts with between 35 and 100 defects per 10,000 words. 2004-06 TCP Assigned for keying and markup 2004-06 Aptara Keyed and coded from ProQuest page images 2004-07 Melanie Sanders Sampled and proofread 2006-02 Aptara Rekeyed and resubmitted 2007-03 Ali Jakobson Sampled and proofread 2007-03 Ali Jakobson Text and markup reviewed and edited 2008-02 pfs Batch review (QC) and XML conversion THE PROTESTATION PROTESTED : OR , A short Remonstrance , shewing what is principally required of all those that have or doe take the last Parliamentary PROTESTATION . ECCL. 5. 45. When thou vowest a Vow unto God , deferre not to pay it ; for hee hath no pleasure in fooles : pay that which thou hast vowed . Better it is that thou shouldest not vow , then that thou shouldest vow , and not pay . Printed in the yeare . MDCXLI . THE PROTESTATION PROTESTED . ECCLES. 5. 4 , 5. When thou vowest a vow unto GOD , deferre not to pay it : for he hath no pleasure in fooles : pay that which thou hast vowed . Better it is that thou shouldest not vow , then that thou shouldst vow and not pay . WHen in the Scale of Conscience rightly informed , I weigh the words of the Protestation , and of this Exhortation of the Holy GHOST together , I cannot but tremble , when I see what small account most men doe make of so solemne a Vow , as they so solemnly take upon them in the said PROTESTATION . For when Ministers and People have taken the Protestation , and have solemnly vowed to maintaine the Doctrine of our Church , so far as it is opposite to Popery ; Doe they withall presently set upon the performance of this their Vow ? Doe they not further deferre to pay it ? Surely if they doe deferre it , the holy Ghost cals them fooles , in whom God hath no pleasure . And it had beene better for them never to haye vowed , then to vow and not pay . Object . But how doe they deferre to pay their Vow thus made ? Answ. In that they doe not presently renounce , and protest against all Popery , and for ever disclaime and abandon all Communion with it . Obj. Why , will they say , what Communion have we Protestants with Popery ? We do all renounce it . Answ. In words we doe renounce it , but indeed wee retaine it , and have close Communion with it : so farre are we from keeping the Vow thus made . Obj. But what Popery doe wee Protestants of the Church of England retaine with us , or hold Communion with ? Answ. Wee hold Communion with Popery , so long as wee doe publikely retaine and maintaine any of the Doctrines of Popery . And the Doctrines of Popery which wee retaine and maintaine , are these . First , The imposition of the Liturgie . Secondly , The Discipline . Thirdly , The Government . Fourthly , The Ceremonies . Obj. But these being as yet established by Law , wee may not cast them off , till the Law which set them up , be abrogated , which must be by Act of Parliament . And we protest against Popery to cast it out , as farre as lawfully we may , and no otherwise . Answ. First , All Lawes are to be interpreted according to their cleare intention and end . Now the Law for Reformation never intended to allow or set up Popery in this Church of England . Secondly , If any humane Lawes be found to be contrary to Gods Word , they are invalid and void ipso facto . And it will appeare , that imposition of a devised Liturgie , humane Rites and Ceremonies , Praelaticall government and Discipline , are directly contrary to Gods word . Thirdly Having once made this solemne Protestation and vow , against all Popery , and finding that the particulars aforesaid are branches of Popery , wee are bound ipso facto forthwith to have no more Communion with them , but utterly to renounce them . Ob. But what if the Parliament did not intend or understand by Popery , the foresaid things , as the Liturgie , Discipline , Government , Ceremonies used in our Church , and by Law established ? Shall we presume to extend the sense of the Protestation further then the first makers thereof intended . And the Prelates ( wee presume ) would never so readily have subscribed to the Protestation , had they dreamed any such sense to lye hid under the name of Popery , as their Hierarchy , with their Liturgie , Rites , Ceremonies , Discipline , Government ; for then they had in the Protestation protested against all these , and should have given their hands and votes , for the rooting of them out of this Church . Answ. First , This we are sure of , and 't is most cleare by the expresse words of the Protestation , that they intended it against all Popery . Secondly , They expresse themselves and professe thus farre , that the words of the Protestation are not to be extended to the maintaining of any forme of Worship , Discipline , or Government ; nor of any Rites or Ceremonies in the said Church of England . Ergo , wee doe not , we may not protest for the maintenance of these . Thirdly , suppose that at the first making of the Protestation in the Parliament , these particulars afore-mentioned were not reckoned in the Catalogue of all Popery : yet no good Christian will or can deny , that the Honourable House of Commons did not at all intend to exclude what ever should be found to pertaine to Popery as a branch thereof . And therefore we may boldly conclude , that if the forementioned things shall be found to be , and that no small branches of Popery ▪ the Protestation hath an edge to cut them off all at one stroke . Fourthly , we are all in an erected hope of such a Reformation intended by this most noble Parliament , as cannot justly challenge the name of Reformation , unlesse all Popery be made to be packing , which of necessity must carry with her all trinkets and baggage , with all her pompous equipage , among whose sumpters , the Hierarchy , with all its Pontificalibus of Service , Ceremonies , Discipline , Traine , Courts may challenge to goe in the formost ranke . Fiftly , and lastly , suppose it could be supposed by any rationall man , that the House of Commons could have no such thought as implicitely to include the aforesaid particulars in the fardell of Popery : or that they could possibly intend the maintaining of those things still , of which they expresly say , That the words of the Protestation are not to bee extended to the maintaining of any Forme of Worship , Discipline , or Governement , Rites or Ceremonies ; or that these things should not be removed but maintained still : What then ? Shall private and particular Christians , knowing these things to be Popery and Antichristian , being also bound by their solemne Vow and Protestation , never reforme themselves , untill they see a generall Reformation over the whole Land ? What if they shall never live to see this ? Will they against their Conscience , against their knowledge , against their Vow and Protestation , live and die Votaries and Communicants in that Service , Schoole-boyes and Punies under the Ferula of that Discipline ▪ Vassals under that Government , Conformists to those Rites and Ceremonies , all which are very Popery and Popish Innovations ? Ob. But how doth it appeare , that the fore-mentioned particulars are branches of Popery ? If our Conscience could be convinced hereof by the Word of God , then surely are we bound both by Gods Word , and by our Vow and Protestation presently to renounce and abandon these things , and to have no longer any Communion with them . Ans. It is most true , that nothing can resolve , regulate , and settle the Conscience , but the Word of God in the evidence of it . Now most cleare it is by the Scripture , that the Liturgie , Discipline , Government , Rites and Ceremonies of the Church of England , are all of them so many branches of Popery . For proofe hereof : first for the Liturgie ; this is a branch of Popery in two generall respects : First , in regard of the whole frame and matter of it , as being translated out of the Romish Latin Liturgie , as is confessed in the Booke of Martyrs ; see for this the late Parallel between the English Liturgie , and the Masse-booke . I omit to say any thing heere of the many vitious particulars throughout the Service-booke , which run as the corrupt blood through all the veines of it , and are by others sufficiently discovered . This is enough to shew it to be Popish . The second generall is , the imposition of it upon all mens Consciences . Which bare imposition alone , were the Liturgie in it selfe never so free from other faults , yet being a Service of mens devising , the imposition ( I say ) makes it a branch of Popery . For Popery ( wee know ) is Antichristianisme . And Antichristianisme is an opposition to Christ , so as this imposition upon the Conscience is an opposing and overthrowing of Christs Kingly Office , who is the sole King and Lord over the Soule and Conscience ; an office incommunicable to any Creature , or Power in Heaven or Earth . Whereupon John saith , Who is a lyar , but he that denyeth that Iesus is the Christ , He is Antechrist . Now to deny Iesus to be the sole annointed King of his Church , is to deny him to be the Christ . And he that sets up man as Lord over the Conscience , in prescribing and imposing what Service of God hee pleaseth of humane invention , denyeth Iesus to bee the Christ , to wit , to be the sole King of his Church , who is the sole Law-giver to the Common-wealth of Israel , in his spirituall Kingdome . And for this cause the Pope is proved to be that Antichrist , who is * the Advesary that exalteth himselfe above all that is called GOD , or that is worshipped ; so that he as God sitteth in or over the Temple of God ( which is every mans conscience ) shewing himselfe that he is GOD . Now in nothing doth Antichrist exalt himselfe more , then in usurping Christs power in giving Lawes , whereby hee exerciseth a Tyranny over the true Temple of God , over the spirituall Kingdome of Christ . And this tyranny is cheifly exercised in usurping dominion over our Faith and Conscience in the worship and service of God , which they place in the Liturgie . This is the highest pride and presumption of Antichrist that possibly can be . This is that Wil-worship , or a worship invented of mans will and choyce , which the Apostle * expressly condemneth and brandeth , as the highest Tyranny , which to bee subiect unto is the spoiling and cheating men of their salvation ( as we read at large Col. 2. v. 8. 18. ) and a separating us from our Head and King Christ , v. 19. and an evacuating of his death , v. 20. The Imposition therefore of a Liturgie upon the Conscience devised by men , and pretended for the worship and service of God , yea and the onely divine publike worship of his Church , is a maine branch of Popery , as being the Character of Antichrist or Antichristianisme , which is the very with Popery ; Popery & Antichriāisme being convertible termes . Thus it is as plaine , as brief , that the imposing of a Liturgie of mans devising upon the Conscience is the pretended Service of God ( though indeed it is rather the service of many , * and which God condemneth as a a vaine worship of him ) is a maine branch of Popery . Secondly , for Ceremonies of mans devising in the worship of God , and imposed upon the Conscience , these being the same nature with , as being a part of the Liturgie , are by the same reasons ( as before ) proved to be Popery . Third●y , for Discipline ( which stands chiefly in correction of manners , and inflicting of Censures ▪ as Excommunication , such as is and hath beene exercised in the Church of England by the Prela●●s ever since the prete●ded Reformation in this po●●t ) that this is also another maine branch of Popery , doe but compare it with that Discipline in the Church of Rome , and you shall find it in all points so to jump and agree , as you must of necessity conclude , i● Rom●s Discip●i●● be Popery , then certainly our Engl●sh D●scipline is Popery too . For in nothing ( I say ) doe they differ , so as Discipline of our Church being false , and counterfeit , because Popish ; and so our Church wanting the true Discipline , which ought to be one of the three markes of a vi●●ble true Church , as it is noted in our Homilies : the Church of England wants this marke at the least . And if the Sacraments be not duty administred , as being mixed and corrupted with a service of mans devising , and ministred pell mell ( as in the Lords Super ) to ignorant and profane persons : then for ought I see , it wants a second marke of a visible true Church . And if ( as lately , and still in many places ) the word of God in the preaching of it be generally corrupted , as when the full , and free liberty of it in sundry points of Evangelicall truth , is restrained and prohibited by orders and edicts , not yet called in , and damned ; by this reckoning it should want the third marke , & so much the more , in case the calling of the Ministery it selfe should prove a peice of Popery too . But this by the way onely it leads us the way to the next point , which is the Government of the Church of England . Fourthly then , for the Goverment of the Church of England , by Archbishops , Bishops , Arch-Deacons , D●anes , Commissaries , Officials , and the rest of that fraternity : if this be not Popery , yea and a top-branch of it , I know not what is ? sure we are , not any one of all this rabble is found to be in the Scripture ; and therefore of divine Institution this Government is not : And consequently , Christian it is not . It must needs then be of Antichrists Order , and Papall meerely . So as if Romes Hierarchy be the top-branch of Popery in that Church : how can it be denyed , that the Hierarchy here in England is the top-branch of Popery in this Church ? For if we looke upon this Hierarchy from Canterbury to ●arlile , and goe through all their Courts , their Officers , their Offices , and Administrations therein , wee shall therein behold the perfect image of the Papall Beast , from horne to hoofe . And if any will object here that the subordinate Ministers beare a part in this Government : ( alas ! ) that 's but a meere mockery . For these are but the Prelates Curates , and a company of Priests little differing from Romes Order of Priestho●d in the estimate of our Prelates , saving that they are not shaven , and have beene of late prevented of being Sacrificers . But a part in the Hierarchicall Government they have none , unlesse a dumb Priest commonly , or some Doctor now and then be the mouth to thunder out Excommunication in their Courts , which the poore Curate at the Commissaries beck must publish in the Congregation . And to these Curates consideration I refer it , whether they be able truely out of good premises to conclude themselves to be the Ministers of Christ lawfully called , whom all of them doe immediately derive their Ministry from the Antichristian Hierarchy , or Papall Prelacie , as the sole foundation thereof . But this suffice briefly to prove the government of the Church of England by Arch-Bishops and Bishops , &c. ( False and usurped Titles ) to be a top-branch of Popery . If here it be objected , that the Government of Arch-Bishops and Diocesan Bishops was before Popery came up , or Antichrist was mounted on his throne : I answer , first , that the Government of Arch-Bishops and Diocesan Bishops was anciently much different from the Papall Hierarchicall Government afterwards , whose Courts and sole Prelaticall Jurisdictions were not known in the Primitive Ages long after the Apostles . Secondly , the Government of Arch-Bishops and Diocesan Bishops , at the very best , and when they first sprung up , was even from the wel-head corrupted , as being an humā device , and the first spring of the Mistery of iniquity which the further it run , the more corrupt it grew , till it had its ●ull confluence in muddy Tiber , the See of Rome , by whose innundation Antichrist , having boysed up his maine sailes , could easily compasse in the whole 〈…〉 World . Thirdly , the Hierarchicall Government in England , as a maine arme of that sea ; so 〈◊〉 hath altered nothing of its former property , when it was a limb of the Papacy ▪ Saving that before the Reformation they held immediately from the Pope , and now especially of later dayes , they hold by the same false pretended title which the Pope himselfe holds by , namely from Christ , and by divine Authority . Witnesse Dr. Hals sweatty discourses . And Dr. ●oclington shewes us a briefe Pedigree of the present titular Arch-Bishop of Canterbury , saying , * Mis●rable men were wee , if he that now sitteth Arch Bishop of Canterbury , could not derive his succession from Saint Augustine , St. Augustine from St. Gregory , St. Gregory from St. Peter . So he ▪ Only , here he failes , and so becomes miserable , that though he can prove Canterburies succession from Rome , yet never Rome's from Peter . And so a severall misery followes upon it , that our Hierarchicall Goverment being a limb of the Papall , and so a top-branch of Popery , it is now universally of all good Christians in England protested against , as worthy to be cut off and cast out , as a fruitlesse withering branch , and to be plucked up by the rootes as a tree twice dead , and as a plant not of Gods planting . Ob. But if it be thus , that for the reasons aforesaid the whole Government of the Church of England ought to be irradicated , together with the Liturgie , Discipline , and Ceremonies , in stead thereof . I answere briefly : First , understanding the Church of England to be none other , then a nationall Church it will be very difficult , if not rather impossible to constitute it so , as is agreeable in all points to a true and visible Congregation of Christ . For a particular Church , or congregation rightly collected and constituted , consists of none , but such as are visible living members of Christ the head , and visible Saints under him , the one and onely King of Saints : but so is it not with a Nationall Church : all the members thereof are not visible Saints , or visible living members , when the greatest part of a Nation commonly is found to consist of persons either ignorant or profane . * For as the Scripture saith , Though the Children of Israel bee as the sand of the Sea , yet but a remnant shall be saved . And yet that was a Nationall Church without parallel : so as in the Reformation of such a nationall Church as this , which hath been so universally overspread with profanenesse , and darknesse , so long beslaved under the yoke of Prelaticall tyranny , under Egyptian Task-masters , under manifold Romish Superstitions , formall service , wil-worship , universall false and loose Discipline , innumerable either false , or unprofitable , or idle Teachers , Non-residents , * dumb doggs , so as whole Counties for want of good Ministers , ( who have beene every where cast out ) and whole Countries , yea the whole Land in comparison are overgrowne with Papists , or Atheists , or those that know not what true Religion meanes : where shall wee begin to reforme ? Alas ! in comparison of the true Religion indeed ( which stands not in abare professiō , but in power not in a bare name of Christianity , but in the nature of it ; not in the mixture of mens inventions , but in the purity of Christs owne Ordinances ) the Religion in England is very farre degenerate , and but a while agoe was almost wholly slidden back into the very puddle of Popery : yet not all , but as it was said of the Church of Sardis , Thou hast a name that thou livest , but thou art dead ; yet in it were a * few names , which had not defiled their garments : Even so in England , there are a few , yea I trust many thousands of Saints , though ( in comparison of the whole Land ) but a few names , a remnant ; whose hearts are perfect before God . Where then shall the Reformation begin now in England ? surely in the new forming of a Church , such as God requireth in his word , Christs voyce must first be heard , to call forth his sheep , and to gather them into their flocks , and folds . For {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} the Church is properly a congregation of beleevers , called out from the rest of the world . For so saith the Lord * Come out from among them and be ye separate , and touch not the uncleane thing , and I will receive you . A strange speech , And be ye separate ? Surely Gods people must bee seperatists from the world , and from false Churches , to become a pure and holy people unto the Lord . And hee saith to the Prophet Ieremy , * If thou take forth the precious from the vile , thou shalt be as my mouth ; let them returne unto thee , but returne not thou unto them . And surely in a corrupt Church ( as this is , and a long time hath beene , by reason of the great Aposta●●● , and especially the wickednesse of the Prelates ) we 〈…〉 doe as the Apostles did when they came to plant 〈…〉 in a Country where the Gospell had not been 〈…〉 . * First they taught the people , and 〈…〉 heard and beleeved , were form●d 〈…〉 be God ) many people already fitted to make up holy assemblies or Churches . Well then , let it be the first degree of Reformation to begin and call forth all those into severall Congregations , who are fitted , and who desire to draw neere unto Christ in a holy Communion with him in the purity of his Ordinances ▪ And thus let Gods word run , and have a free passage , in calling in such as God shall draw unto him , in what place soever they shall be found . Nor can we think at the first especially , that every assembly of people collected in their severall Parishes , is fit to make up a Congregation , and so qualified , as Christ requireth For how many Parishes in England will be found , where scarce one is able to give a reason of the hope that is in him ? Ob. But shall not good Preachers be set up in every Parish , that the People may be instructed , and so fitted to be mēbers of a Cōgregatiō , such as afore is mētioned . Ans. No doubt of that , so so farre as is possible to provide Preachers . Ob. But what shall the People do in the meane time , who are ignorant , and profane , though not notoriously wicked ? For have they not received Baptisme ? Are they not Christians ? shall they not then be admitted into the Communion of the other Sacrament ? Ans. For this , every Minister ought to bee very diligent and carefull to see , that ordinary profane and ignorant persons be not admitted to the Sacrament * The lame or the blind is not to be offered up in Sacrifice . Ob. But admit that such as are ordinary profane persons , and have little or no knowledge of God , bee admitted to the Sacrament pell mell : may not godly persons communicate with them , and therein not sin ? Ans. For that , let such as are godly look to it . For if Gods Ordinances bee profaned ( as they are by profane and ignorant persons comming to the Lords Table , then others also that communicate with them are guilty of the same prophanation with them . * A little leven leveneth the whole lumpe . The Apostle applies it to a mixt Communion . Let us keep the feast ( saith he ) to wit , in participating of Christ our Passeover in the Sacrament , not with the old leven , &c. And thereupon hee tels them , I writ unto you in an Epistle not to company with fornicators , &c. And * This ye know , that no whoremonger , nor uncleane person , nor covetous man , hath any inheritance in the Kingdome of Christ . Be not therefore partakers with them . Ob. But in Congregations be so mixed , as they cannot , or are not secured , shall godly men for that cause deprive themselves of the Ordinance ? Answ. First , there is no necessity , that men in using the Ordinance should sin by communicating with others in the profanation of holy things . Secondly , It is not Gods Ordinance , that his holy things should bee prophaned . * Cast not your pearles before Swine , nor your holy things to dogs . * Who required these things at your hands , to tread in my Courts ? And yet their Oblations , their Sabbaths , their solemne assemblies , were Gods Ord. But because they were polluted and profaned by those that joyned in them , therfore the Lord abhors them . * Wash you , make you cleane , &c. Ob. But what 's this to godly persons communicating with prophane ? Ans. To communicate with known evill doers ( which even in their presuming to communicate in the Ordinances , do evil in their doing of evil , is to partake of their evil deeds . * Be not mingled with such ( saith ) the Apostle ) that they may be ashamed . And v. 6. We command you Brethren , in the name of our Lord Iesus Christ , that ye withdraw your selves from every brother , that walketh disorderly , &c. Ob. But if it be so , where can a godly man communicate without sin ? For where are not the Congregations mixed ? Ans. It is true , that if there be none other Congregations allowed , but such as are in Parishes , this confession cannot be avoyded . Therfore of necessity there must be Liberty granted of setting up Churches , or Congregations , where Christs Ordinances are administred in their purity , and so where none are admitted members of the Congregation , but such as are approved of by the whole Assembly for their profession and conversation , as against which there is no just exception . Ob. But would you have other Congregations , then such as are limited to every Parish ? How will this stand with a Nationall Church , such as is the Church of England ? This would make a division , and separation . Ans. We must look in the first place , what Christ commandeth , and what manner of Congregations he requireth , and how qualified . If a State will set up a Nationall Church , wherein many things out of reason of State are tolerated , and prescribed for order sake ( as they call it ) and if there be such a necessity , necessity hath no Law : but let not this exclude and barre out the free use of such Congregations , as whereof the spirituall Common-wealth of Israel consisteth , over which Christ as King immediately raigneth by his Spirit and Word in the beauty and purity of his ordinances . Let not the Consciences of Gods people be bound , where Christ hath purchased liberty . And where Christs Congregations are set up , however they are separate from the world in the corruptions thereof , yet they are not separate from the Civil State , but are peaceable members therof , subject and obedient to all the good and just Laws thereof . Yea where such Congregations are erected and allowed or by a Civil State , they are both a strength and beauty , and procure many blessings unto it . They are unto a Civil State , as that fulminatrix legio , that thundring Legion in the Emperour Antoninus his Army ( as he called it ) which consisting wholly of Christians , among his other Heathen Legions , did by their Prayers procure refreshing showers to the whole Army , when it was sore distressed with drowt , and terrible storms on the other side , to the disconfeiture of the enemie . And therfore the Apostle exhorts his Christians * to pray for Kings and such as are in authority , that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godlinesse and honesty . And ●er . 29 , 7. Pray unto the Lord for the City of your captivity : for in the peace thereof shall ye have peace ; implying , if it is the duty of Civil Princes and states , heathen or Christian , to protect , or tollerate the true Christian Religion in their Kingdomes as well ; as of the true Christians , and Professors to pray for them . For Christs Kingdome being spirituall , is so farr from being any prejudice to Civil states , that it is the very glory and safety of them . And therefore the Emperour Domilian ( under whom was moved the second persecution , and by whom the Apostle John was banished into Pathmos ) hearing that Christs Kingdome was celestiall , and not of this World , recalled his Edict for the Persecution ( Euseb. Eccl. Hist. li. 3. c. 15. ) so as thereupon it ceased . Ob. But that there shallbe an order of Church goverment established in a nationall Church , and withall a liberty left ●or other Church assemblies , exempted from this goverment , this may be a meanes to soment factious and envious emulations in a State , to the disturbing of the peace thereof . Ans. For this , first , there be good Lawes for civill government . Seriously , that any one among the exempted Congregations doe incorrigably misbehave themselvs , the Law can take order with them . Thirdly , let no man blame them , before they cry them . Fourthly , it hath beene an old stratageme of Satan still to lay all the blame of what ever disaster , upon the Christians , as Nero did . Fiftly , it cannot be expected , but where ever the Gospel commeth in its power and purity , it will kindle coales , and stirre up debate , as Christ saith , it sets the Father against the Sonne , and the Sonne against the Father , &c. But this is accidentally , in respect of the malegnant objects it meetes withall , though naturall too , in respect of the good subjects , in whom it is , and by whom it is sincerely professed , for it fills them with zeale and plaine dealing in reproving of sinne , which the world cannot away withall . Thus it hath done in all ages . And God in the * beginning after the fall , upon the revealing of Christ , put an unreconcileable enmity , and deadly forehead betweene the seed of the Serpent , and of the woman , betweene the Elect and Reprobate to the worlds end . And if for this every civill state should shut out the true Religion , where would there be left any true Church upon the earth ? Obj. But the Church-way of independency is too strict , and cannot be content with a mediocrity , but aspires to such a perfection of purity , as men are not capable of ; and therefore such will of necessity be envied and maligned , which will be cause of divisions . Ans. As i fall true Christians were not exhorted evry where , and so bound , to strive for perfection , so much as is possible , As we read Matth. 5. 20. 48. Phil. 3. 12. Col. 1. 28. and 4. 12. 2 Tim. 3. 17. and every where in the Scripture is perfect holinesse required , as Ephes. 4. 12. 2 Cor. 7. 1. Let us ( saith the Apostle ) cleanse our selves from all filthinesse of the flesh and spirit , perfecting holinesse in the feare of God . See also Heb. 5. 12. and 6. 1. &c. And for envy , were there but once set up amongst us some such Congregations , as come neerest to the rule of Gods Word , both in Church-constitutions , and in Graces sutable , they would draw no lesse love and liking to them , when we should see in them the beauty and glory of Christ more shining forth in them , then ever this Land hath yet seene . And however the world accounts strictnesse , yet none are admitted members thereof , but such as are both willing and desirous , and doe freely enter into Covenant to observe all the condiditions and orders thereof according to Gods Word : and who so are over , in , and of this Congregation , they find in it nothing that is grievous , but Christs sweetnesse * whose yoake is easie , and his burthen light . Obj. But if such Congregations were set up , which are not confined to any one Parish , but collected out of many places , or out of many Parishes , it would perhaps stirre up the Patochiall Ministers , or some at least , to envy and malignity , when they should see the best Christians in all their Parish to be under another Ministry , and members of another Congregation , and by this meanes also should their wages be diminished . Ans. First , if Christians , living in a Parish , shall find just cause of separating themselves from such a Congregation , as wherein great Scandalls and offences are constantly given , so as they cannot with a good conscience , and without dishonour to God and his Ordinances communicate with such an assembly , wherof the greatest part consists of prophane and ignorant persons ( as aforesaid ) but are forced to joyne themselves with such Congregations , where no such offences be : shall any Ministers be so unchristian , as to envy this ? Or if they doe , let them reforme their owne Congregations , and take away all such scandalls , and separate the precious from the vile , and administer the Ordinances of Christ purely and holily , and set up Christs government in their Congregations , that so they may retaine those honest soules , which otherwise are forced to forsake the pudled streames , to injoy the sweet , fresh , and pure fountaine of living waters . Nor will the Ministers and Pastors of such Independent Congregations looke after any such wages , as the Parochiall Ministers challenge to themselves , as Tithes , or the like . No surely , they are , and will be content that such competent maintenance as the members of their severall Congregations respectively , shall freely , without any compulsion ( as is used in Tithes ) allow unto them . Now let any that professe to be the Ministers of Christ , maligne other , either Ministers or people , who are desirous to injoy Christs Ordinances , in as much purity as may be , and with as much liberty of conscience , as Christ hath priviledged them withall . Obj. But the Parliament now being about a Reformation , as the removing of all Antichristianisme and Popery , as the Hierarchicall Government , and Ceremonies purged , the Liturgie , and Discipline , what government shall be set up in this Nationall Church ? Ans. The Lord strengthen and direct the Parliament in so great and glorious a Worke ; and blessed be God who hath raised up such instrumens for such a worke , and who hath put in their hearts to be so zealous and unanimous for the perfecting of it so farre as is possible , and may stand with the nature of a Nationall Church . But as for the manner of Government of a Nationall Church , because it hath no patterne in the Scripture now under the Gospell , who can herein perscribe or advise any thing . But first of all , if good Preachers be set up in every Parish , the noughty and scandalous being removed , and then for the better and speedier supply hereof , the Universities and Grammer Schooles be purged , and better Governors and Ministers set up : so shall the people be taught , that they perish not for want of knowledge . As for the manner of Government of Parishes , whether by a Presbytry , or otherwise , that ( as being , for its externall forme and frame , of a politicke Nation ) I leave to the prudence of those , in whose hands it is put : let it be what it will , so as still a due respect be had to those Congregations , and Churches , which desire an exemption and liberty of injoying Christs ordinances in such a purity , as a nationall Church , is not possibly capable of . And what ever Liturgie , or Ceremonies , or Discipline , are left to accompany this Naturall Church-government , t is indifferent with us , so we may injoy our Christian liberty in the true use of such ordinances , and of such independent Church-government , as Christ the onely Law-giver of his Church , and Lord of the conscience , hath left unto us in his word . Obj. But independent Churches , being absolute in themselves , and exempted from a superior Iurisdiction of others , and yet not exempt from posibility of erring : what Law is left to reduce them from their errour ? or that they persist in their obstinacy , what power shall censure , or correct them . Ans. First , they have Christs Law to regulate them . Secondly , they have the Law of Christ , which is by love to serve one another . They have the law of association and confederation with other Churches to consult , advise , and conferre with , in matters of doubt or question . And if after all other remedies any be obstinate in his , or their errour , they are liable to excommunication , either in the same Congregation , if it be a particular person , and the error great , or from other Churches , if the whole Congregation have offended , and do stiffely maintaine a dangerous errour , which yet is rarely seene in a well constituted Congregation , consisting of meet members . And if at any time such a thing should fall out , which cannot grow but from some roote of apostacy , particular or generall : if the offence doe reflect also upon the Laws of the civill state , which are made against knowne Heresies , or blasphemy , or Idolrtry , and the like , the offenders are obnoxious to the civill power . So little feare there is , that any independant Congregation , or any member thereof , should be exempt from condigne censure , where just cause is given either Ecclesiasticall or civill . FINIS . Notes, typically marginal, from the original text Notes for div A30646e-100 〈…〉 * ●2 Thes. 2. 4. * Col , 2● 23. * Math. 15. 9 , Object . * Isa. ●● . 22 * Isa. 26. 10. * 2 Cor. ● ▪ 17. * 〈◊〉 . 15 , * 〈…〉 21 * 〈…〉 * 〈…〉 * 〈…〉 * 〈…〉 * 〈…〉 * 〈…〉 . 〈…〉 * 〈…〉 〈◊〉 10 21. * 〈…〉 * Mat. 11. 29 , 30.