The mantle thrown off, or, The Irishman dissected in a letter from a gentleman to his friend in London. H. B. 1689 Approx. 17 KB of XML-encoded text transcribed from 7 1-bit group-IV TIFF page images. Text Creation Partnership, Ann Arbor, MI ; Oxford (UK) : 2009-03 (EEBO-TCP Phase 1). A30911 Wing B75 ESTC R4322 11792077 ocm 11792077 49255 This keyboarded and encoded edition of the work described above is co-owned by the institutions providing financial support to the Early English Books Online Text Creation Partnership. This Phase I text is available for reuse, according to the terms of Creative Commons 0 1.0 Universal . The text can be copied, modified, distributed and performed, even for commercial purposes, all without asking permission. Early English books online. (EEBO-TCP ; phase 1, no. A30911) Transcribed from: (Early English Books Online ; image set 49255) Images scanned from microfilm: (Early English books, 1641-1700 ; 806:12) The mantle thrown off, or, The Irishman dissected in a letter from a gentleman to his friend in London. H. B. 12 p. Printed for Richard Baldwin ..., London : 1689. Reproduction of original in Huntington Library. Attributed to H.B. cf. BM. Concerns a recent rebellion in Ireland. Dated August 20, 1689, at Tonbridge. Signed: H. B. Created by converting TCP files to TEI P5 using tcp2tei.xsl, TEI @ Oxford. Re-processed by University of Nebraska-Lincoln and Northwestern, with changes to facilitate morpho-syntactic tagging. Gap elements of known extent have been transformed into placeholder characters or elements to simplify the filling in of gaps by user contributors. 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Copies of the texts have been issued variously as SGML (TCP schema; ASCII text with mnemonic sdata character entities); displayable XML (TCP schema; characters represented either as UTF-8 Unicode or text strings within braces); or lossless XML (TEI P5, characters represented either as UTF-8 Unicode or TEI g elements). Keying and markup guidelines are available at the Text Creation Partnership web site . eng Great Britain -- History -- William and Mary, 1689-1702. 2007-12 TCP Assigned for keying and markup 2008-01 SPi Global Keyed and coded from ProQuest page images 2008-04 Emma (Leeson) Huber Sampled and proofread 2008-04 Emma (Leeson) Huber Text and markup reviewed and edited 2008-09 pfs Batch review (QC) and XML conversion THE MANTLE Thrown off : OR , THE Irish-man Dissected . IN A LETTER From a Gentleman to his Friend in LONDON . LICENS'D , August the 23 d. 1689 LONDON , Printed for Richard Baldwin near the Black Bull in the Old Baily . MDCLXXXIX . THE MANTLE Thrown off : OR , THE Irish-man Dissected . SIR , I Have heard that it hath been the Imployment of some days among the Exiles of Ireland , to frame a Proclamation for Pardoning the Irish Rebels . Both the Subject and Authors , I confess , to me seem Novel , I hardly thought those men that are up to the Elbows in English Blood should be treated like Children , who pettishly quarrel at each others Interest in their Father , whose Emulous Contentions deserve a smaller Chastisement . Nor did I expect to see so great Condescention in a Prince , as to advise with every individual man of that Kingdom , how he may secure him ; both is demonstration of what we all believed . God hath sent him to do his own work , and given him his own Spirit , wonderful in Power , yet shadowed with Mercy . Which however the Irish can little either esteem , or deserve , is well enough known to the British Protestants of that Kingdom , as perhaps it would be to those of England , if considered by them . I will here in some few Instances , give my thoughts , why it is so , as briefly as the subject will admit , reserving what more should be said , to a larger Discourse , which I design on this subject . The innate Aversion the Irish ever had to the English , even when Religion and Interest were the same , History witnesseth . That when the English were called over by their own Kings , and fought their Battles ; yet at the same time were they murdered by those whom they had delivered . And no Indulgence could ever prevail with them , to be true to the Crown of England , no not Titles of Honour , Marriages with English , Grants , and Imployments from the Crown : all was ( upon the least opportunity ) trampled under foot by them , whose Venom covered all the Antidotes of Clemency , Honour , and Profit . Lust sometimes prevailed so with them , as to oblige their Grandees , when they could not by indirect means obtain their satisfaction , to gain it by Marriage with the English ; and though their delight in the Beauty and Humour of their Loves was great , yet could it not restrain their Inhumane Barbarity to the Parents of the Child they had in their Bosom . It becomes not the eyes of a Christian to see the Character of their Bestiality ; but they who are inquisitive may read some of it in the History of Ireland ; but greater Examples were in the Rebellion of Forty One. I need not mention their Legends in that War , they are so fresh in the memories of all , who are concerned in that Kingdom ; but I shall come nearer the scope of my design , which is to shew , That Pardon and Lenity to them , however it carries the face of mercy , is really the contrary . And then , that it will not attain the end designed , ( viz. ) the more easie reduction of that Kingdom . For the first , Mercy in its proper signification and intent , is a work of deliverance , and preservation , and must at least bear the majority whereever it extends , in preserving the Rights of men . Now the giving pardon to the Irish , is not so , unless it be granted , that the English of Ireland have been Usurpers of their Rights . It is obvious to every Eye , that by the present Rebellion of Ireland , the whole Kingdom is ruined , Thousands of Protestants murdered , starved , and otherwise destroyed . The Question then is by whom hath all this been done ? Was it by the Irish ? That is Indubitable . But was not there provocation from the English ? That may be a question from Strangers to that Kingdom , and therefore I will answer it by a short Narrative of the condition that Kingdom stood in , when this last ravage was committed by the Irish . Tyrconnel was in the Government a bitter Enemy to the English , and Brittish Protestants , the English Militia had been two years before disarmed . The English Army Disbanded , and an Irish Army in the room . The Corporations new modell'd , the Protestants turned out , and the Papists put in the Government of them . Popish Judges Justices of the Peace , Sheriffs , Coroners , and Constables , through the Kingdom . This shews they could be under no hardships from the Protestants . And far from fear of them , that were indeed little better than Prisoners , ever since the Accession of King James to the Crown . But it may be said , the Protestants were for King William , then Prince of Orange . No doubt all good men were for him that would restore the Kingdoms to their Laws , and Religion ; but yet the English were under too strict a Guard , and had no power in their hands to secure themselves ; so that there was not ( I may say ) a Man in the Kingdom , declared for the Prince until February , and most of their Rapin and Devastation was committed before . This I presume , is enough to satisfie any indifferent man , that without the least provocation or pretence of right , the Irish Papists have committed these late Massacres , Burnings , and Devastations on the Protestants of Ireland . Now had these mischiefs been reciprocal injuries done on both sides , though they that were in the right had been sufferers for the King's Service ; yet there might have been room for the King's Mercy : But where all the fury of a malicious enemy , fell upon an innocent and quiet people , for no reason that they can pretend unto , but that they believed they were for King William in their hearts : This seems a strange warrant for them , as it is happily without precedent , if in all its Circumstances it be considered , that such monsters of men should have pardon ; the impunity of whom as the Latin Phrase hath it , is an injury to all good and honest men . And now I come to shew , that this Proclamation of Pardon cannot be thought mercy ; I must remember that I am confined to a Letter , and therefore bounded in my Discourse . I presume then , that seems not an act of mercy , which protects Offenders in their invading the Lives and Properties of Honest men . Because , according to my first Position , mercy must be circumscribed within the limits of common right ; otherwise the peaceable man would have no security ; Government would become an Out-law , and Banditties , our Ministers of State. But to come nearer the matter , it is the Maxim of Princes to carry an equal hand in Government ; and a General Pardon is a mutual good ; now at least may the King's Friends ( pardon the familiarness of the expression ) put in for as great a share in his mercy , as his enemies ? The Protestants pray , let us be included in your Pardon for our Estates : It would be thought impossible that the Champion of the Reformation , and Protestant Religion , should return : No , I have given them to your , and my Enemies . This would seem severer , than that hasty judgment of David , Let Ziba and thou divide ; for here the Irish have all , without the pretence of that Sycophant who met the King on the way . I would not restrain the Fountain of our King's mercy , but if the Stream be turned from his Inclosures into the Common , I think we may complain of those Avaritious hands that do it . We have Invincible Evidence , that his Royal Thoughts are for us ; in that he lets us , nay , bids us , speak ; and since we see his mercy , like the Divinity that guides him , is over all his actions : His bleeding Subjects , that have suffered so much in the Cause he owns , only pray they may not be excluded from the benefit of his Grace and Favour : they desire not the property of their Enemies , but pray for their own ; not for Losses in War , which our pretended Friends , but secret Enemies would insinuate ; but for Robberies , and Outrages committed in time of Peace ; and such as had their own Government and King been able to assert but part of the Laws , I verily believe would have , in a great measure , been recovered . I have heard some bring his Majesty's Proclamation of Pardon in Scotland , as an Argument against us : I confess , to me such instances , especially from men of understanding , only confirm the apprehensions many have , which is not my business here to mention ; this I will say , in my Inquiries , I find it not in our Ministers of State , but a small Fry that hope to fat themselves in the troubled Waters of Ireland . They have heard the Irish can bribe , and they are loth to see the English Treasure they have got , taken from them ; but that it may be left to be offered at their Altars . But to return , it seems easie to answer that of Scotland , which is in no point Parallel with that of Ireland : They of Scotland , a few misled People that run on , under pretence of their Religion , and under their Lords : these of Ireland had no such pretence , for they were under their own Government , had no restraint in their Religion . They of Scotland committed no Murders , or Robberies , at their first going out , but were in their own defence . They of Ireland , began with both , when no man opposed them . They of Scotland , such as it is , had a pretence , at least perswaded to it by their Leaders , for King James and his Commission . But they of Ireland , had not so much as that , when they committed their Barbarity in Ireland . And to make them more evidently notorious , their own Government made Proclamation against it , though no doubt their chief Men set them under hand upon it , though it was too savage , and cruel to own . But to end this Argument , relating to Scotland , they are of one Nation , and Interest ; and his Majestie 's Mercy when given to such , may be said to extend to all : For their Religion , Friends and Relations are in a great measure universal among them , and what those Rebels do , is under a pretended Commission , and may so be under the Construction of War , and then more proper for pardon . But they of Ireland , not to enumerate particulars , are in every one of these circumstances foreign to the Brittish Protestants there . I will now trouble you with the reasons that are perswasive with one , that this General and Free Pardon will not prevail , to the end designed , that is , for the speedy reduction of Ireland . We that know the genius of the Irish , are not ignorant , that they were never prevailed with by Civilities , and Indulgence ; they are like their Boggs , never to be trusted to by going gently over , nor safely but by cutting your way to the bottom . If you offer to them either , in War , or Peace , terms of Accommodation , they think themselves of the stronger side , and will never submit . I could give several Instances in this present Rebellion , where Gentlemen have sent to some of their Grandees upon the assurance of former Friendship , and promises , of returning whatever kindness was shewn , at this time : but their return was nothing but insultings , and commanding their Horses away ; when in two or three days after upon a Message from the same English Gentleman , threatning the Irish Don , he had them sent back . I cannot see how it will affect them to the general laying down of Arms , but to the contrary incourage them , in their Rebellion for these Reasons , First , If it be an Argument on our side to hasten the Conquest , for fear of the French assistance , or our other imbroyls , it is the same on theirs . For incouragement to hold out , in expectation of it . The Irish Understanding and Courage is observed to be by themselves understood , and depended upon , by negatives : the Enemy say they are afraid of us , therefore they know we are wise in Council and strong in Arms ; if not , they would never offer us such terms , they have a Proverb , Never bid first ; and they conclude he is in want that doth . The next ground for my opinion , is , That the giving pardon to all that lay down Arms , &c. will be a means to enlarge the War. For no doubt , most of the men of Estates will come in , and be thereby the more serviceable to their Party , both as to giving them Advice , and Intelligence , and also Mony which they may receive out of their Estates , in the English Quarters , and their Friends of that in the Irish . It seems a great mistake to believe , that by taking away the Men of Estates from the Irish ; will oblige the rest to lay down Arms : it will have the quite contrary effect , and I verily believe that the Irish desire no better than to have them in the English Quarters . It makes them considerable in the Opinion of their own Party , that they should be so courted , and gives assurance to the common People , that when the worst is upon them , they have them to go to . It may be thought a Maxim of War , from the World of the Moon , that upon a Rebellion the men of Estates , and Leaders into it , as soon as they have formed an Army and headed them , until they had got all the English Estates , should then be invited to Pardon , and so wait not only the present success of this , but for another Rebellion . And this hath been too much the practice of the English Conquest of Ireland , which proving so often fatal to the English , 't is wonderful the same measures should be taken again : It really seems a Licence for the Irish to rebel , thus to pardon them that are only able to call them to it . The Populace could never make a head , but by the assistance of their Grandees ; but when they are once in a body , then they are better commanded without them ; and it is a favour to their common interest , to receive them into protection , and preservation against another attempt . To me it seems more reasonable to believe the pardoning the Populace , and excluding their Commanders , would be a readier way to have the Kingdom given up : for though the Irish heads of Clanns influence the common people , whilst the Lands and Herds follow them ; yet that ceaseth when they are stript of both . It was a true Aphorism of the Bell wether , Neagle , in his Letter from Coventry , That the Natives of Ireland followed the Lords : you , and I know it in our own experience , how careless , and unnatural the common Irish of our Province are to their old Lords , when they often refused a days labour to them ; and however the common Vogue runs of the command of the old Irish Proprietors have over the Scholagues , I never saw it but where they had some immediate dependance upon them as under-Tenants . And it would be soon found in this case , if the Proclamation only extend to their private men , or at least none exceeding the degree of a Captain . The ordinary people affect not travelling , no not so much as out of one Province into another , let them have but liberty to return to their own Cabins , and be protected there , and they will account themselves happy . I will not trouble you farther with my thoughts on this matter , only conclude with this , that besides the mistake of bringing the Irish to lay down their Arms by this General Pardon ; this way would put a possibility in their hands ( if they should at any time ) to assume the same Rebellion again ; which God avert . Your Affectionate Servant , H. B. Tunbridge August . 20 , 1689. FINIS .