Severall letters and passages between His Excellency, the Lord Generall Cromwell, and William Dundas, governour of Edinburgh Castle, and the ministers therein, since His Excellencies entrance into Edinburgh whereunto are annexed some quaeries that were then sent to the said governour and ministers.
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             Severall letters and passages between His Excellency, the Lord Generall Cromwell, and William Dundas, governour of Edinburgh Castle, and the ministers therein, since His Excellencies entrance into Edinburgh whereunto are annexed some quaeries that were then sent to the said governour and ministers.
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           Severall
           Letters
           and
           Passages
           between
           his
           Excellency
           the
           Lord
           Generall
           
             CROMWELL
             ,
          
           and
           
             William
             Dundas
          
           Governour
           of
           
             Edinburgh
          
           Castle
           ,
           
             And
             the
             Ministers
             therein
             ,
          
           Since
           his
           Excellencies
           Entrance
           into
           Edinburgh
           .
        
         
           Whereunto
           are
           annexed
           some
           Quaries
           ,
           that
           were
           then
           sent
           to
           the
           said
           Governour
           and
           Ministers
           .
        
         
           Printed
           and
           sold
           in
           York
           by
           
             T.
             Broad
             ,
          
           at
           his
           Shopp
           near
           Common-Halls-Gate
           .
           
             Septem.
          
           27.
           1650.
           
        
      
    
     
       
       
         
           
             For
             the
             Honourable
             the
             Governour
             of
             the
             Castle
             of
          
           Edinburgh
           .
        
         
           SIR
           ,
           I
           received
           Command
           from
           my
           Lord
           Generall
           ,
           to
           desire
           you
           ,
           to
           let
           the
           Ministers
           of
           
             Edinburgh
             ,
          
           now
           in
           the
           Castle
           with
           you
           ,
           know
           ,
           that
           they
           have
           free
           libertie
           granted
           them
           ,
           if
           they
           please
           to
           take
           the
           pains
           ,
           to
           preach
           in
           their
           severall
           Churches
           ;
           and
           that
           my
           Lord
           hath
           given
           speciall
           Command
           both
           to
           Officers
           and
           Souldiers
           ,
           that
           they
           shall
           not
           in
           the
           least
           be
           molested
           .
        
         
           
             Sir
             ,
          
           
             I
             am
             your
             most
             humble
             servant
             Edw
             :
             Whalley
             .
          
           
             
               Edinburgh
            
             
               
                 Septem.
              
               9.
               1650.
               
            
          
        
      
       
         
           
             From
             the
             Governour
             of
             Edinburgh
             Castle
             to
             Colonell
          
           Whalley
           ,
           
             with
             my
             Lord
             Generals
             answer
             .
          
        
         
           SSR
           ,
           I
           have
           communicated
           the
           desire
           of
           your
           Letter
           to
           such
           of
           the
           Ministers
           of
           
             Edinburgh
          
           as
           are
           with
           me
           ,
           who
           have
           desired
           me
           to
           return
           this
           for
           answer
           ,
           ●hat
           though
           they
           are
           ready
           to
           be
           spent
           in
           their
           Masters
           service
           ,
           and
           to
           refuse
           no
           ●●ffering
           so
           they
           may
           fulfill
           their
           Ministery
           with
           joy
           ;
           yet
           perceiving
           the
           persecution
           to
           be
           personall
           ,
           by
           the
           practice
           of
           your
           Party
           upon
           the
           Ministers
           of
           Christ
           in
           
             England
          
           and
           
             Ireland
          
           and
           in
           the
           Kingdom
           of
           
             Scotland
             ,
          
           since
           your
           unjust
           invasion
           thereof
           :
           And
           finding
           nothing
           exprest
           in
           yours
           wherupon
           to
           build
           any
           security
           for
           their
           Persons
           while
           they
           are
           there
           ,
           and
           for
           their
           return
           hither
           ,
           they
           are
           resolved
           to
           reserve
           themselves
           for
           better
           times
           ,
           and
           to
           wait
           upon
           Him
           ,
           who
           hath
           hidden
           his
           face
           for
           a
           while
           from
           the
           Sonnes
           of
           
             Jacob
             .
          
           This
           is
           all
           I
           have
           to
           say
           ,
           but
           that
           I
           am
           ,
        
         
           
             Sir
             ,
          
           
             Your
             most
             humble
             servant
             W
             :
             Dundas
             .
          
           
             
               9.
               
               
                 Septem.
              
               1650.
               
            
          
        
      
       
         
           For
           the
           Honourable
           the
           Governour
           of
           the
           Castle
           of
           Edinburgh
           .
        
         
           SIR
           ,
           the
           kindnesse
           offered
           to
           the
           Ministers
           with
           you
           ,
           was
           done
           with
           ingenuitie
           ,
           thinking
           it
           might
           have
           met
           with
           the
           like
           ;
           but
           I
           am
           satisfied
           to
           tell
           those
           with
           you
           ,
           That
           if
           their
           Masters
           service
           (
           as
           they
           call
           it
           )
           were
           chiefly
           in
           their
           eye
           ,
           imagination
           of
           suffering
           would
           not
           have
           caused
           such
           a
           return
           ,
           much
           lesse
           the
           practice
           by
           our
           Party
           (
           as
           they
           are
           pleased
           to
           say
           )
           upon
           the
           Ministers
           of
           Christ
           in
           
             England
             ,
          
           have
           been
           an
           argument
           of
           Personall
           persecution
           .
           The
           Ministers
           in
           
             England
          
           are
           supported
           ,
           and
           have
           liberty
           to
           preach
           the
           Gospel
           ,
           though
           not
           to
           rail
           ,
           nor
           under
           pretence
           thereof
           to
           overtop
           the
           Civill
           Power
           ,
           or
           debase
           it
           as
           they
           please
           .
           No
           man
           hath
           been
           troubled
           in
           
             England
          
           or
           
             Ireland
          
           for
           preaching
           the
           Gospel
           ,
           nor
           has
           any
           Minister
           been
           molested
           in
           
             Scotland
          
           since
           the
           comming
           of
           the
           Army
           hither
           :
           the
           speaking
           the
           Truth
           becomes
           the
           Ministers
           of
           
           Christ
           ,
           when
           Ministers
           pretend
           to
           a
           glorious
           Reformation
           ,
           and
           lay
           the
           foundation
           thereof
           in
           getting
           to
           themselves
           worldly
           Power
           ,
           and
           can
           make
           worldly
           mixtures
           to
           accomplish
           the
           same
           ,
           such
           as
           their
           late
           agreement
           with
           their
           King
           ,
           and
           hopes
           by
           him
           to
           carry
           on
           their
           Design
           ,
           may
           know
           ,
           that
           the
           Sion
           promised
           and
           hoped
           for
           ,
           will
           not
           be
           built
           with
           such
           untempered
           Morter
           ;
           As
           for
           the
           unjust
           Invasion
           they
           mention
           ,
           time
           was
           when
           an
           Army
           of
           
             Scotland
          
           came
           into
           
             England
             ,
          
           not
           called
           by
           the
           Supream
           Authoritie
           .
           We
           have
           said
           in
           our
           Papers
           with
           what
           hearts
           ,
           and
           upon
           what
           accompt
           we
           came
           ,
           and
           the
           Lord
           hath
           heard
           us
           ,
           though
           you
           would
           not
           ,
           upon
           as
           solemn
           an
           Appeal
           as
           any
           experience
           can
           parallell
           .
           And
           although
           they
           seem
           to
           comfort
           themselves
           with
           being
           the
           sonnes
           of
           
             Jacob
             ,
          
           from
           whom
           (
           they
           say
           )
           God
           hath
           hid
           his
           face
           for
           a
           time
           ,
           yet
           it
           s
           no
           wonder
           when
           the
           Lord
           hath
           lifted
           up
           his
           hand
           so
           eminently
           against
           a
           Family
           ,
           as
           he
           hath
           done
           so
           often
           against
           this
           ,
           and
           men
           will
           not
           see
           his
           hand
           :
           if
           the
           Lord
           hide
           his
           face
           from
           such
           ,
           putting
           them
           to
           shame
           ,
           both
           for
           it
           ,
           and
           their
           hatred
           at
           his
           People
           ,
           as
           it
           is
           this
           day
           .
           When
           they
           purely
           trust
           to
           the
           Sword
           of
           the
           Spirit
           ,
           which
           is
           the
           Word
           of
           God
           ,
           which
           is
           powerfull
           to
           bring
           down
           strong
           Holds
           ,
           and
           every
           imagination
           that
           exalts
           it self
           ,
           which
           alone
           is
           able
           to
           square
           and
           fit
           the
           stones
           for
           the
           new
           
             Jerusalem
             :
          
           then
           ,
           and
           not
           before
           ,
           and
           by
           that
           means
           ,
           and
           no
           other
           ,
           shall
           
             Jerusalem
          
           (
           which
           is
           to
           be
           the
           praise
           of
           the
           whole
           earth
           )
           ▪
           the
           City
           of
           the
           Lord
           be
           built
           ,
           the
           Sion
           of
           the
           Holy
           one
           of
           Israel
           ,
           I
           have
           nothing
           to
           say
           to
           you
           but
           that
           I
           am
        
         
           
             Sir
             ,
          
           
             Your
             humble
             servant
             O.
             CROMWELL
             .
          
           
             
               
                 Septem.
              
               9.
               1650
            
          
        
      
       
         
           
             A
             Letter
             from
             the
             Governour
             of
          
           Edinburgh
           
             Castle
             ,
             for
             the
             Right
             Honourable
             the
             Lord
          
           Cromwell
           ,
           
             Commander
             in
             chief
             of
             the
             English
             Army
             .
          
        
         
           MY
           Lord
           yours
           I
           have
           communicated
           to
           these
           with
           me
           whom
           it
           concerned
           ,
           who
           desire
           me
           to
           return
           this
           answer
           ,
           That
           their
           ingenuity
           in
           prosecuting
           the
           ends
           of
           the
           Covenant
           ,
           according
           to
           their
           vocation
           and
           place
           ,
           and
           adhering
           to
           their
           first
           Principles
           ,
           is
           well
           known
           ;
           and
           one
           of
           their
           greatest
           regreats
           is
           ,
           that
           they
           have
           not
           been
           met
           with
           the
           like
           :
           when
           Ministers
           of
           the
           Gospel
           have
           been
           imprisoned
           ,
           deprived
           of
           their
           Benefices
           ,
           sequestrate
           ,
           forced
           to
           flee
           from
           their
           dwellings
           ,
           and
           bitterly
           threatned
           for
           their
           faithfull
           declaring
           the
           Will
           of
           God
           against
           the
           godlesse
           ,
           and
           wicked
           proceedings
           of
           men
           ,
           that
           it
           cannot
           be
           accounted
           an
           imaginary
           fear
           of
           suffering
           in
           such
           as
           are
           resolved
           to
           follow
           the
           like
           freedom
           and
           faithfulnesse
           ,
           in
           discharge
           of
           their
           Masters
           Message
           :
           That
           it
           savours
           not
           of
           ingenuitie
           to
           promise
           libertie
           of
           preaching
           the
           Gospel
           ,
           and
           to
           limit
           the
           Preachers
           thereof
           ,
           that
           they
           must
           not
           speak
           against
           the
           sinnes
           and
           enormities
           of
           Civill
           Powers
           ,
           since
           their
           Commission
           carryeth
           them
           to
           speak
           the
           Word
           of
           the
           Lord
           unto
           ,
           and
           to
           reprove
           the
           sinnes
           of
           Persons
           of
           all
           ranks
           ,
           from
           the
           highest
           to
           the
           lowest
           :
           That
           to
           impose
           the
           name
           of
           railing
           upon
           such
           
           faithfull
           freedom
           ,
           was
           the
           old
           practice
           of
           Malignants
           against
           the
           Ministers
           of
           the
           Gospel
           ,
           who
           laid
           open
           to
           people
           the
           wickednesse
           of
           their
           wayes
           ,
           that
           they
           should
           not
           be
           insnared
           thereby
           :
           That
           their
           consciences
           bear
           them
           record
           ,
           and
           all
           their
           hearers
           do
           know
           ,
           that
           they
           meddle
           not
           with
           Civill
           affairs
           further
           then
           to
           hold
           forth
           the
           rule
           of
           Gods
           Word
           ,
           by
           which
           the
           straightnes
           and
           crookednes
           of
           mens
           actions
           are
           made
           evident
           .
           But
           they
           are
           sorry
           that
           they
           have
           just
           cause
           to
           regreat
           ,
           that
           men
           of
           meer
           Civill
           place
           and
           employment
           ,
           should
           usurpe
           the
           Calling
           and
           Employment
           of
           the
           Ministery
           ,
           to
           the
           scandall
           of
           the
           Reformed
           Kirks
           ,
           and
           particularly
           in
           
             Scotland
             ,
          
           contrary
           to
           the
           Government
           and
           Discipline
           therein
           established
           ;
           to
           the
           maintenance
           whereof
           you
           are
           bound
           by
           the
           Solemn
           League
           and
           Covenant
           .
           Thus
           farre
           they
           have
           thought
           fit
           to
           vindicate
           the
           return
           to
           the
           offer
           in
           Col.
           
             Whalleys
          
           latter
           letter
           .
           The
           other
           part
           of
           yours
           which
           concerns
           the
           Publike
           as
           well
           as
           them
           ,
           they
           conceive
           that
           all
           hath
           been
           answered
           sufficiently
           in
           the
           Publike
           Papers
           of
           the
           State
           and
           Kirk
           :
           onely
           to
           that
           of
           the
           successe
           upon
           your
           solemne
           Appeal
           they
           say
           again
           what
           was
           said
           to
           it
           before
           ,
           That
           they
           have
           not
           so
           learned
           Christ
           ,
           as
           to
           hang
           the
           equity
           of
           their
           Cause
           upon
           events
           ,
           but
           desire
           to
           have
           their
           hearts
           established
           in
           the
           love
           of
           the
           Truth
           in
           all
           the
           tribulations
           that
           befall
           them
           .
           I
           onely
           do
           adde
           that
           I
           am
        
         
           
             My
             Lord
             ,
          
           
             Your
             most
             humble
             servant
             W.
             Dundas
             .
          
           
             
               9.
               
               
                 Septem
              
               1650.
               
            
          
        
      
       
         
           
             For
             the
             Governour
             of
          
           Edinburgh
           
             Castle
             .
          
        
         
           SIR
           ,
           Because
           I
           am
           at
           reasonable
           good
           leasure
           ,
           I
           cannot
           let
           such
           a
           grosse
           mistake
           and
           inconsequentiall
           reasonings
           passe
           ,
           without
           some
           notice
           taken
           of
           them
           .
           And
           first
           their
           Ingenuity
           in
           relation
           to
           the
           Covenant
           ,
           for
           which
           they
           commend
           themselves
           ,
           doth
           no
           more
           justifie
           their
           want
           of
           ingenuitie
           in
           answer
           to
           Col.
           
           
             Whaleys
          
           Christian
           offer
           ,
           concerning
           which
           my
           letter
           charged
           them
           with
           guiltinesse
           ,
           deficiencie
           ,
           then
           their
           bearing
           witnesse
           to
           themselves
           of
           their
           adhering
           to
           their
           first
           Principles
           &
           ingenuity
           in
           prosecuting
           the
           ends
           of
           the
           Covenant
           ,
           justifies
           them
           so
           to
           have
           done
           ,
           meerly
           because
           they
           say
           so
           .
           They
           must
           give
           more
           leave
           henceforwards
           ,
           for
           Christ
           will
           have
           it
           so
           ,
           will
           they
           nill
           they
           ,
           and
           they
           must
           have
           patience
           to
           have
           the
           truth
           of
           their
           doctrines
           and
           sayings
           tryed
           by
           the
           sure
           touchstone
           of
           the
           word
           of
           Gods
           and
           if
           there
           be
           a
           liberty
           and
           duty
           of
           tryall
           ,
           there
           is
           a
           liberty
           of
           judgment
           also
           ,
           for
           them
           that
           may
           and
           ought
           to
           try
           ▪
           which
           if
           so
           ,
           they
           must
           give
           others
           leave
           to
           say
           and
           think
           ,
           that
           they
           can
           appeale
           to
           equal
           judges
           ,
           who
           have
           been
           the
           truest
           fulfillers
           of
           the
           most
           reall
           and
           equitable
           ends
           of
           the
           Covenant
           ;
           but
           if
           these
           Gentlemen
           which
           do
           assume
           to
           themselves
           to
           be
           the
           infallible
           expositors
           of
           the
           Covenant
           ,
           as
           they
           do
           too
           much
           to
           their
           Auditories
           of
           the
           Scriptures
           ,
           counting
           a
           different
           sense
           and
           judgment
           from
           theirs
           breach
           of
           Covenant
           &
           Heresie
           ;
           no
           marvel
           they
           judge
           of
           others
           so
           authoritatively
           and
           severely
           :
           but
           we
           have
           not
           so
           learned
           Christ
           .
           We
           look
           at
           Ministers
           as
           helper
           
           of
           ,
           not
           Lords
           over
           the
           faith
           of
           Gods
           people
           .
           I
           appeal
           to
           their
           consciences
           ,
           whether
           any
           trying
           their
           doctrines
           and
           dissenting
           ,
           shall
           not
           incurre
           the
           censure
           of
           Sectary
           ,
           and
           what
           is
           this
           but
           to
           deny
           Christians
           their
           liberty
           ,
           and
           assume
           the
           infallible
           Chair
           ?
           What
           doth
           he
           ,
           whom
           we
           would
           not
           be
           likened
           unto
           ,
           do
           more
           then
           this
           ?
           In
           the
           second
           place
           it
           is
           affirmed
           that
           the
           ministers
           of
           the
           Gospel
           have
           been
           imprisoned
           ,
           deprived
           of
           their
           Benefices
           ,
           sequestred
           ,
           forced
           to
           flie
           from
           their
           dwellings
           ,
           and
           bitterly
           threatned
           for
           their
           faithfull
           declaring
           the
           will
           of
           God
           ,
           &c.
           
           And
           that
           they
           have
           been
           limited
           that
           they
           might
           not
           speak
           against
           the
           sins
           &
           enormities
           of
           the
           Civill
           powers
           ,
           that
           to
           impose
           the
           name
           of
           rayling
           upon
           such
           faithfull
           freedome
           ,
           was
           the
           old
           practice
           of
           malignants
           against
           the
           Preachers
           of
           the
           Gospel
           ,
           &c.
           
        
         
           If
           the
           Civill
           authority
           ,
           or
           that
           part
           of
           it
           ,
           which
           continued
           faithfull
           to
           their
           trust
           ,
           true
           to
           the
           ends
           of
           the
           Covenant
           ,
           did
           in
           answer
           to
           their
           consciences
           turne
           out
           a
           Tyrant
           in
           a
           way
           which
           the
           Christians
           in
           after
           times
           will
           mention
           with
           honour
           ,
           and
           all
           Tyrants
           in
           the
           world
           look
           at
           with
           feare
           ,
           and
           many
           thousands
           of
           Saints
           in
           
             England
          
           rejoyce
           to
           think
           of
           it
           ,
           and
           have
           received
           from
           the
           hand
           of
           God
           a
           liberty
           from
           the
           fear
           of
           like
           usurpations
           ,
           and
           have
           cast
           off
           him
           ,
           who
           trod
           in
           his
           Fathers
           steps
           ,
           doing
           mischiefe
           as
           farre
           as
           he
           was
           able
           ,
           whom
           you
           have
           received
           like
           fire
           into
           your
           bosome
           ,
           of
           which
           God
           will
           I
           trust
           in
           time
           make
           you
           sensible
           ;
           if
           Ministers
           rayling
           at
           the
           Civill
           Power
           ,
           calling
           them
           murtherers
           ,
           and
           the
           like
           ,
           for
           ▪
           doing
           this
           ,
           have
           been
           dealt
           with
           as
           you
           mention
           ;
           will
           this
           be
           found
           a
           personall
           persecution
           ?
           or
           is
           sin
           so
           because
           they
           say
           so
           ?
           They
           that
           acted
           this
           great
           businesse
           ,
           have
           given
           a
           reason
           of
           their
           faith
           in
           this
           action
           ,
           &
           some
           here
           are
           further
           ready
           to
           do
           it
           against
           all
           gainsayers
           .
           But
           it
           will
           be
           found
           that
           these
           reprovers
           do
           not
           only
           make
           themselves
           the
           Judges
           and
           Determiners
           of
           sin
           ,
           that
           so
           they
           may
           reprove
           ;
           but
           they
           also
           took
           liberty
           to
           stirr
           up
           the
           people
           to
           blood
           and
           armes
           ,
           and
           would
           have
           brought
           a
           Warre
           upon
           
             England
             ,
          
           as
           hath
           been
           upon
           
             Scotland
             ,
          
           had
           not
           God
           prevented
           it
           ;
           and
           if
           such
           severity
           as
           hath
           been
           expressed
           towards
           them
           be
           worthy
           the
           name
           of
           personall
           persecution
           ,
           let
           all
           uninterested
           men
           judge
           ,
           whether
           the
           calling
           of
           this
           practice
           ,
           rayling
           ,
           be
           to
           be
           paralleld
           with
           the
           Malignants
           imputation
           upon
           the
           Ministers
           ,
           for
           speaking
           against
           the
           Popish
           Innovations
           in
           the
           Prelates
           times
           ,
           and
           the
           Tyrannicall
           &
           wicked
           practice
           then
           on
           foot
           ,
           let
           your
           own
           consciences
           minde
           you
           .
           The
           Roman
           Emperours
           in
           Christs
           and
           his
           Apostles
           times
           were
           usurpers
           and
           intruders
           upon
           the
           Jewish
           State
           ,
           yet
           what
           foot-step
           have
           ye
           either
           of
           our
           blessed
           Saviours
           so
           much
           as
           willingnesse
           to
           the
           dividing
           of
           an
           inheritance
           ,
           or
           their
           medling
           in
           that
           kind
           ;
           This
           was
           not
           practiced
           by
           the
           Church
           since
           our
           Saviours
           time
           ,
           till
           Antichrist
           assuming
           the
           infallible
           Chair
           ,
           and
           all
           that
           he
           called
           the
           Church
           to
           be
           under
           him
           ,
           practised
           this
           authoritatively
           over
           civill
           Governours
           .
        
         
           The
           way
           to
           fullfill
           your
           Ministrie
           with
           joy
           ,
           is
           to
           preach
           the
           Gospel
           ,
           which
           I
           
           wish
           some
           who
           take
           pleasure
           in
           reproofes
           at
           adventure
           ,
           do
           not
           forget
           too
           much
           to
           doe
           .
           3.
           
           You
           say
           you
           have
           just
           cause
           to
           regreat
           ,
           that
           men
           of
           civill
           imployments
           should
           usurpe
           the
           calling
           and
           imployment
           of
           the
           Ministrie
           ,
           to
           the
           scandall
           of
           the
           reformed
           Kirks
           ,
           &c.
           
        
         
           Are
           you
           troubled
           that
           Christ
           is
           preached
           ?
           Is
           preaching
           so
           inclusive
           in
           your
           function
           ?
           Doth
           it
           scandalize
           the
           reformed
           Kirks
           ,
           and
           
             Scotland
          
           in
           particular
           ?
           Is
           it
           against
           the
           Covenant
           ?
           Away
           with
           the
           Covenant
           if
           this
           be
           so
           ;
           I
           thought
           the
           Covenant
           and
           these
           could
           have
           been
           willing
           that
           any
           should
           speak
           good
           of
           the
           name
           of
           Christ
           ;
           if
           not
           it
           is
           no
           Covenant
           of
           Gods
           approving
           ,
           nor
           the
           Kirks
           you
           mention
           ,
           in
           so
           much
           the
           spouse
           of
           Christ
           .
           Where
           do
           you
           find
           in
           the
           Scripture
           a
           ground
           to
           warrant
           such
           an
           assertion
           ,
           That
           preaching
           is
           included
           in
           your
           function
           ,
           though
           an
           approbation
           from
           men
           hath
           order
           in
           it
           ,
           and
           may
           do
           well
           ,
           yet
           he
           that
           hath
           not
           a
           better
           warrant
           then
           that
           ,
           hath
           none
           at
           all
           .
           I
           hope
           he
           that
           ascended
           up
           on
           high
           may
           give
           his
           gifts
           to
           whom
           he
           please
           ,
           and
           if
           those
           gifts
           be
           the
           Seale
           of
           mission
           ,
           be
           not
           envious
           though
           
             Eldad
          
           and
           
             Medad
          
           prophesie
           ,
           you
           know
           who
           bids
           us
           cover
           earnestly
           the
           best
           gifts
           ,
           but
           chiefly
           that
           we
           may
           prophesie
           ,
           which
           the
           Apostle
           explains
           there
           to
           be
           a
           speaking
           to
           instruction
           ,
           and
           edification
           and
           comfort
           ,
           which
           the
           instructed
           ,
           edified
           ,
           and
           comsorted
           ,
           can
           best
           tell
           the
           Energie
           and
           effect
           of
           ;
           if
           such
           evidence
           be
           ,
           I
           say
           again
           ta●●
           he●d
           you
           envie
           not
           for
           your
           own
           sakes
           ,
           least
           you
           be
           guilty
           of
           a
           greater
           fault
           ,
           then
           
             ●●●ses
          
           reproved
           in
           
             Joshua
             ,
          
           for
           envying
           for
           his
           sake
           .
           Indeed
           you
           erre
           through
           the
           mistake
           of
           the
           Scriptures
           ;
           approbation
           is
           an
           act
           of
           conveniency
           in
           〈◊〉
           of
           order
           ,
           not
           of
           necessity
           to
           give
           faculty
           to
           preach
           the
           Gospel
           .
           Your
           pretended
           fear
           least
           error
           should
           step
           in
           ,
           is
           like
           the
           man
           that
           would
           keep
           all
           the
           wine
           out
           of
           the
           Countrey
           ,
           least
           men
           should
           be
           drunk
           .
           It
           will
           be
           found
           an
           unjust
           and
           unwise
           jealousie
           :
           to
           deny
           a
           man
           the
           liberty
           he
           hath
           by
           nature
           ,
           upon
           a
           supposition
           he
           may
           abuse
           it
           ,
           when
           he
           doth
           abuse
           it
           judge
           .
           It
           a
           man
           speak
           foolishly
           ,
           ye
           suffer
           him
           gladly
           because
           ye
           are
           wise
           ,
           if
           erroneously
           ,
           the
           truth
           more
           appeares
           ,
           by
           your
           conviction
           ,
           stop
           such
           a
           mans
           mouth
           with
           sound
           words
           that
           cannot
           be
           gain●aid
           ;
           if
           blasphemously
           ,
           or
           to
           the
           disturbance
           of
           the
           publique
           Peace
           ,
           let
           the
           Civill
           Magistrate
           punish
           them
           ;
           if
           truly
           ,
           rejoyce
           in
           the
           truth
           ,
           and
           if
           you
           will
           call
           our
           speakings
           together
           since
           we
           came
           into
           
             Scotland
             ,
          
           to
           provoke
           one
           another
           to
           love
           and
           to
           good
           works
           ,
           to
           faith
           in
           our
           Lord
           Jesus
           Christ
           ;
           and
           repentance
           from
           dead
           works
           ,
           to
           charity
           and
           love
           towards
           you
           ,
           to
           pray
           and
           mourn
           for
           you
           ,
           and
           for
           the
           bitter
           returns
           to
           ,
           and
           incredulity
           of
           our
           professions
           of
           love
           to
           you
           of
           the
           truth
           ,
           of
           which
           we
           have
           made
           our
           solemn
           and
           humble
           Appeals
           to
           the
           Lord
           our
           God
           ,
           which
           he
           hath
           heard
           ;
           and
           then
           witnesse
           to
           ,
           if
           these
           things
           be
           scandalous
           to
           the
           Kirk
           ,
           and
           against
           the
           Covenant
           ,
           because
           done
           by
           men
           of
           civill
           callings
           ,
           we
           rejoyce
           in
           them
           ,
           notwithstanding
           what
           you
           say
           .
        
         
           For
           a
           Conclusion
           in
           answer
           to
           the
           witnesse
           of
           God
           upon
           our
           solemn
           Appeal
           ,
           
           you
           say
           ,
           you
           have
           not
           so
           learned
           Christ
           to
           hang
           the
           equity
           of
           your
           Cause
           upon
           events
           ;
           We
           could
           wish
           blindnesse
           bath
           not
           been
           upon
           your
           eyes
           to
           all
           those
           marvellous
           dispensations
           which
           God
           hath
           wrought
           lately
           in
           
             England
             .
          
           But
           did
           not
           you
           solemnly
           Appeal
           and
           Pray
           ?
           did
           not
           we
           do
           so
           too
           ?
           and
           ought
           not
           you
           and
           we
           to
           think
           with
           fear
           and
           trembling
           ,
           of
           the
           Hand
           of
           the
           great
           God
           in
           these
           mighty
           and
           strange
           appearances
           of
           his
           ?
           but
           can
           steightly
           call
           it
           an
           Event
           ;
           Were
           not
           both
           yours
           and
           our
           expectations
           renewed
           from
           time
           to
           time
           ,
           whilest
           we
           waited
           upon
           God
           ,
           to
           see
           which
           way
           he
           would
           manifest
           himselfe
           upon
           our
           Appeals
           ?
           And
           shall
           we
           after
           all
           these
           our
           Prayers
           ,
           Fastings
           ,
           Tears
           ,
           expectations
           ,
           and
           solemn
           Appeals
           ,
           call
           these
           bare
           Events
           ?
           The
           Lord
           pitie
           you
           ,
           surely
           we
           fear
           ,
           because
           it
           hath
           been
           a
           mercifull
           and
           gracious
           deliverance
           to
           us
           :
           I
           beseech
           yo●
           in
           the
           Bowels
           of
           Christ
           ,
           search
           after
           the
           minde
           of
           the
           Lord
           in
           it
           towards
           you
           ,
           and
           we
           shall
           help
           you
           by
           our
           prayers
           ,
           that
           you
           may
           finde
           it
           out
           ;
           for
           ye●
           (
           if
           we
           know
           our
           hearts
           at
           all
           )
           our
           Bowels
           do
           in
           Christ
           Jesus
           earn
           after
           the
           godly
           in
           
             Scotland
             .
          
           We
           know
           there
           are
           stumbling-blocks
           which
           hinder
           you
           ;
           The
           Personall
           prejudices
           you
           have
           taken
           up
           against
           us
           and
           our
           wayes
           ,
           wherein
           we
           cannot
           but
           think
           some
           occasion
           has
           been
           given
           ,
           and
           for
           which
           we
           mourn
           ;
           the
           apprehension
           you
           have
           ,
           that
           we
           have
           hindered
           the
           glorious
           Reformation
           ,
           you
           think
           you
           were
           upon
           :
           I
           am
           perswaded
           these
           and
           such
           like
           binde
           you
           up
           ,
           from
           an
           understanding
           ,
           and
           yeelding
           to
           the
           minde
           of
           God
           ,
           in
           this
           great
           day
           of
           his
           Power
           and
           Visitation
           ;
           and
           (
           if
           I
           be
           rightly
           informed
           )
           the
           late
           blow
           you
           received
           ,
           is
           attributed
           to
           prophane
           Councels
           ,
           and
           Conduct
           ,
           and
           mixtures
           in
           your
           Armie
           ,
           and
           such
           like
           .
           The
           naturall
           man
           will
           not
           finde
           out
           the
           cause
           ;
           look
           up
           to
           the
           Lord
           that
           he
           may
           tell
           it
           you
           ,
           which
           that
           he
           would
           do
           ,
           shall
           be
           the
           fervent
           prayers
           of
        
         
           
             Your
             loving
             friend
             and
             servant
             O
             :
             CROMWELL
             .
          
           
             
               Edinburgh
               ,
            
             
               12.
               
               
                 Septem.
              
               1670.
               
            
          
        
      
       
         
           
             For
             the
             Governour
             of
          
           Edinburgh
           
             Castle
             ,
             these
             .
          
        
         
           
             TH●se
             Queries
             are
             sent
             not
             to
             reproach
             you
             ,
             but
             in
             the
             love
             of
             Christ
             laying
             the
             before
             you
             ;
             we
             being
             perswaded
             in
             the
             Lord
             ,
             that
             there
             is
             a
             Truth
             in
             them
             ,
             which
             we
             earnestly
             desi●e
             may
             not
             be
             laid
             aside
             unsought
             after
             ,
             by
             any
             prejudice
             either
             against
             the
             things
             themselves
             ,
             or
             the
             unworthenesse
             or
             weaknesse
             of
             the
             person
             that
             offers
             them
             .
             If
             you
             turn
             at
             the
             Lords
             reproofs
             ,
             he
             will
             power
             out
             his
             Spirit
             upon
             you
             ,
             and
             you
             shall
             understand
             his
             words
             ,
             and
             they
             will
             guide
             you
             to
             a
             blessed
             Reformation
             indeed
             ,
             even
             to
             one
             according
             to
             the
             Word
             ,
             and
             such
             as
             the
             People
             of
             God
             wait
             for
             ;
             wherein
             you
             will
             find
             us
             and
             all
             Saints
             ready
             to
             rejoyce
             ,
             and
             serve
             you
             to
             the
             utmost
             in
             our
             places
             and
             Callings
             .
          
        
         
           1.
           
           
             Whether
             the
             Lords
             Controverse
             be
             not
             both
             against
             the
             Ministers
             in
          
           Scotland
           
             and
          
           England
           ,
           
             for
             wre●●…ing
             ,
             straining
             ,
             and
             improving
             the
             Covenant
             against
             the
             Godly
             and
             Saints
             in
          
           England
           ,
           
             of
             the
             same
             Faith
             with
             then
             in
             every
             Fundamentall
             ,
             even
             to
             bitter
             perfection
             ,
             and
             so
             making
             that
             which
             in
             the
             main
             intention
             was
             Spirituall
             ,
             to
             serve
             politicks
             and
          
           
           
             carnall
             ends
             ,
             even
             in
             that
             part
             especially
             which
             was
             Spirituall
             ,
             and
             did
             look
             to
             the
             glory
             of
             God
             ,
             and
             the
             comfort
             of
             his
             people
             .
          
        
         
           2.
           
           
             Whether
             the
             Lords
             Controversie
             may
             not
             be
             for
             your
             and
             the
             Ministers
             in
          
           England
           
             sullennesse
             at
             ,
             and
             darkning
             and
             not
             beholding
             the
             glory
             of
             Gods
             wonderfull
             dispensations
             in
             this
             Series
             of
             his
             Providences
             in
          
           England
           ,
           Ireland
           
             and
          
           Scotland
           ,
           
             both
             now
             and
             formerly
             ,
             through
             envie
             at
             Instruments
             ,
             and
             because
             the
             things
             did
             not
             work
             forth
             your
             Platforme
             ,
             and
             the
             great
             God
             did
             not
             come
             down
             to
             your
             mindes
             and
             thoughts
             .
          
        
         
           3
           
             Whether
             you
             carrying
             on
             a
             Reformation
             ,
             so
             much
             by
             you
             spoken
             of
             ,
             have
             not
             probably
             been
             subject
             to
             some
             mistakes
             in
             your
             own
             judgments
             about
             some
             parts
             of
             the
             same
             ,
             laying
             so
             much
             stresse
             thereupon
             ,
             as
             hath
             been
             a
             temptation
             to
             you
             ,
             even
             to
             break
             the
             law
             of
             Love
             towards
             your
             Brethren
             ,
             and
             those
             Christ
             hath
             regenerated
             ,
             even
             to
             the
             reviling
             and
             persecuting
             of
             them
             ,
             or
             to
             stir
             up
             wicked
             men
             to
             do
             the
             same
             ,
             for
             your
             Forms
             sake
             ,
             or
             but
             some
             parts
             of
             it
             .
          
        
         
           4
           
             Whether
             if
             your
             Reformation
             be
             so
             perfect
             and
             so
             spirituall
             ,
             be
             indeed
             the
             Kingdom
             of
             the
             Lord
             Jesus
             ,
             it
             will
             need
             such
             carnall
             policies
             ,
             such
             fleshly
             mixtures
             ,
             such
             unsincere
             actings
             ,
             as
             to
             pretend
             to
             cry
             downe
             all
             Malignants
             ,
             and
             yet
             receive
             and
             set
             up
             the
             Head
             of
             them
             ,
             and
             so
             act
             for
             the
             Kingdom
             of
             Christ
             in
             his
             Name
             ,
             and
             upon
             advantage
             there
             of
             ,
             and
             to
             publish
             so
             false
             a
             Paper
             ,
             so
             full
             of
             specious
             pretences
             to
             piety
             ,
             as
             the
             fruit
             and
             effect
             of
             his
             repentance
             ,
             to
             deceive
             the
             mindes
             of
             all
             the
             godly
             in
             England
             ,
             Ireland
             ,
             and
             Scotland
             ;
             you
             in
             your
             own
             consciences
             knowing
             with
             what
             regreat
             he
             did
             it
             ,
             and
             with
             what
             importunities
             and
             threats
             he
             was
             brought
             to
             do
             it
             ,
             and
             how
             much
             to
             this
             very
             day
             he
             is
             against
             it
             :
             and
             whether
             this
             be
             not
             a
             high
             provocation
             of
             the
             Lord
             in
             so
             grossely
             dissembling
             with
             him
             and
             his
             People
             .
          
        
      
       
         
           For
           the
           right
           Honourable
           the
           Commander
           in
           Chief
           of
           the
           English
           Army
           .
        
         
           My
           Lord
           ,
           Your
           Papers
           I
           have
           communicated
           to
           these
           with
           me
           whom
           they
           concerned
           ,
           who
           have
           desired
           me
           to
           return
           this
           answer
           .
           The
           Contents
           of
           these
           Papers
           do
           concern
           the
           publick
           differences
           betwixt
           you
           and
           those
           of
           the
           three
           Kingdomes
           ,
           who
           have
           faithfully
           adhered
           to
           the
           Solemn
           League
           and
           Covenant
           ,
           and
           are
           awed
           by
           the
           oath
           of
           God
           from
           accession
           to
           the
           guiltinesse
           of
           clear
           and
           evident
           breaches
           of
           Covenant
           ,
           and
           have
           been
           so
           often
           and
           fully
           answered
           in
           the
           publick
           Papers
           of
           this
           Kirk
           and
           Kingdom
           ,
           In
           the
           resolutions
           of
           the
           Assembly
           of
           Divines
           in
           England
           ,
           and
           in
           the
           published
           Writings
           of
           the
           soundest
           Divines
           there
           ;
           yea
           and
           of
           all
           the
           reformed
           Kirks
           ,
           That
           they
           conceive
           it
           needlesse
           (
           though
           a
           matter
           of
           no
           great
           difficulty
           )
           to
           give
           a
           particular
           answer
           ;
           especially
           since
           the
           late
           Generall
           Assembly
           have
           authorized
           their
           Commissioners
           to
           take
           into
           consideration
           matters
           of
           publick
           concernment
           to
           this
           Kirk
           ,
           unto
           whom
           if
           you
           please
           you
           may
           hereafter
           direct
           Papers
           of
           that
           kind
           .
           In
           the
           mean
           time
           they
           rest
           fully
           perswaded
           in
           their
           minds
           ,
           that
           the
           event
           of
           a
           battel
           (
           though
           ordered
           by
           a
           just
           and
           wise
           providence
           )
           is
           no
           infallible
           proof
           of
           the
           equity
           or
           iniquity
           of
           a
           Cause
           ,
           seeing
           there
           is
           one
           event
           to
           the
           righteous
           and
           to
           the
           wicked
           ,
           to
           him
           that
           sweareth
           and
           to
           him
           that
           feareth
           an
           oath
           ,
           as
           it
           is
           clear
           in
           the
           cause
           of
           Israel
           against
           Benjamin
           ,
           about
           the
           men
           of
           Gibeah
           .
           I
           am
        
         
           
             My
             Lord
             ,
          
           
             Your
             most
             humble
             servant
             ,
             W.
             Dundas
             .
          
           
             
               12.
               
               
                 Septem.
              
               1650.
               
            
          
        
      
       
         Finis
         .