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             A new dialogue between some body and no body, or, The Observator observed
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               Numb
               .
               1
               A
               New
               DIALOGUE
               BETWEEN
               
                 Some
                 body
                 and
                 No
                 body
              
               .
               OR
               THE
               Observator
               Observed
               .
            
             
               
                 Friday
                 ,
                 
                   November
                   25.
                   1681.
                   
                
              
            
             
               
                 Nobody
                 .
              
               
                 COusen
                 ,
                 well
                 met
                 :
                 Cousen
                 a
                 word
                 with
                 you
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 Some
                 body
                 ▪
                 
              
               
                 Cousen
                 say
                 you
                 ?
                 there
                 be
                 many
                 Conz'ners
                 Sir
                 ,
                 i'
                 th'
                 world
                 ;
                 and
                 you
                 may
                 be
                 one
                 of
                 them
                 for
                 ought
                 I
                 know
                 :
                 for
                 I
                 don't
                 think
                 I
                 ever
                 saw
                 you
                 in
                 my
                 life
                 ,
                 and
                 know
                 not
                 how
                 you
                 come
                 to
                 claim
                 kindred
                 of
                 me
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 You
                 may
                 have
                 heard
                 of
                 me
                 Sir
                 ,
                 for
                 I
                 am
                 of
                 the
                 Family
                 of
                 the
                 Bodys
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 I
                 know
                 not
                 who
                 you
                 are
                 ,
                 for
                 I
                 have
                 heard
                 of
                 many
                 a
                 Rascal
                 :
                 but
                 you
                 look
                 so
                 like
                 a
                 Tory
                 by
                 your
                 Garb
                 and
                 Habit
                 ,
                 that
                 I
                 will
                 ha'
                 nothing
                 to
                 say
                 to
                 you
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 I
                 look
                 like
                 what
                 I
                 am
                 not
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 The
                 more
                 dangerous
                 Fellow
                 still
                 .
                 But
                 what
                 is
                 your
                 Name
                 ,
                 that
                 presses
                 thus
                 to
                 be
                 known
                 to
                 me
                 ?
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 My
                 name
                 is
                 
                   No
                   body
                
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 I
                 have
                 heard
                 of
                 you
                 indeed
                 good
                 Mr.
                 
                   No
                   body
                   ▪
                
                 Sir
                 ,
                 
                   Fare
                   you
                   well
                
                 ,
                 for
                 you
                 are
                 one
                 of
                 the
                 most
                 dangerous
                 Fellows
                 I
                 ever
                 met
                 with
                 ;
                 and
                 a
                 Man
                 had
                 need
                 stand
                 upon
                 his
                 Guard
                 that
                 converses
                 with
                 you
                 ,
                 as
                 if
                 he
                 were
                 discoursing
                 with
                 
                   F.
                   G.
                   T.
                   B.
                
                 or
                 
                   B.
                   H.
                
                 who
                 are
                 not
                 to
                 be
                 spoken
                 with
                 ,
                 without
                 a
                 Jury
                 of
                 Witnesses
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 Good
                 Cousen
                 
                   Some
                   body
                
                 ,
                 be
                 not
                 so
                 fearful
                 ,
                 for
                 I
                 may
                 talk
                 Treason
                 by
                 Authority
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 Why
                 are
                 you
                 a
                 Tory
                 ?
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 
                   No
                   body
                
                 may
                 speak
                 Treason
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 I
                 thank
                 you
                 for
                 that
                 ,
                 and
                 
                   Some
                   body
                
                 may
                 be
                 Hang'd
                 for
                 it
                 .
                 I
                 won't
                 come
                 within
                 the
                 Air
                 of
                 your
                 breath
                 ;
                 for
                 you
                 are
                 one
                 of
                 the
                 most
                 pernicious
                 Scribblers
                 of
                 the
                 Age
                 ,
                 the
                 Press
                 is
                 pester'd
                 with
                 your
                 Works
                 of
                 all
                 sorts
                 and
                 sizes
                 .
                 What
                 Cart
                 loads
                 of
                 Treasonable
                 ,
                 Scurrilous
                 ,
                 Virulent
                 ,
                 and
                 Malicious
                 Papers
                 ,
                 are
                 put
                 out
                 every
                 day
                 in
                 
                   no
                   bodys
                
                 Name
                 ,
                 and
                 Printed
                 for
                 
                   no
                   body
                
                 ,
                 nay
                 impudently
                 owned
                 by
                 
                   no
                   body
                
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 You
                 see
                 then
                 I
                 am
                 a
                 Man
                 of
                 Note
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 So
                 noted
                 a
                 Man
                 ,
                 that
                 I
                 don't
                 care
                 to
                 ha●
                 to
                 do
                 with
                 you
                 ▪
                 for
                 you
                 are
                 a
                 Man
                 of
                 no
                 Principles
                 or
                 Religion
                 ,
                 you
                 write
                 on
                 both
                 sides
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 There
                 's
                 your
                 mistake
                 ;
                 for
                 I
                 am
                 of
                 your
                 Religion
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 What
                 's
                 that
                 ?
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 Of
                 every
                 Religion
                 ;
                 or
                 of
                 the
                 Religion
                 that
                 's
                 uppermost
                 :
                 let
                 's
                 not
                 fall
                 out
                 about
                 that
                 ,
                 our
                 Cousen
                 
                   Every
                   body
                
                 has
                 invented
                 a
                 Religion
                 that
                 all
                 will
                 conform
                 to
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 And
                 what
                 is
                 that
                 ?
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 The
                 Religion
                 of
                 
                   H.
                   R.
                
                 and
                 the
                 Observator
                 ,
                 INTEREST
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 I
                 see
                 you
                 are
                 acquainted
                 with
                 the
                 Torys
                 ,
                 you
                 are
                 a
                 Trepanner
                 ,
                 I
                 'll
                 leave
                 you
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 Ben't
                 so
                 hot
                 as
                 
                   Tory
                   T
                
                 ,
                 who
                 sweats
                 his
                 Religion
                 out
                 at
                 his
                 forehead
                 .
                 Cants
                 one
                 day
                 ,
                 and
                 Recants
                 another
                 ,
                 says
                 and
                 unsays
                 as
                 fast
                 as
                 a
                 Dog
                 will
                 trot
                 .
                 Leave
                 me
                 for
                 nothing
                 ?
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 I
                 have
                 told
                 you
                 the
                 Reason
                 ,
                 't
                 is
                 a
                 dangerous
                 time
                 to
                 hold
                 Discourses
                 with
                 
                   Any
                   body
                
                 ;
                 you
                 may
                 swear
                 me
                 out
                 of
                 my
                 Life
                 for
                 ought
                 I
                 know
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 
                   Any
                   body
                
                 is
                 a
                 Rascal
                 ,
                 for
                 he
                 opposes
                 
                   Some
                   body
                
                 :
                 But
                 mistake
                 not
                 ,
                 I
                 never
                 swore
                 against
                 
                   Any
                   body
                
                 in
                 my
                 life
                 ,
                 and
                 I
                 am
                 of
                 that
                 Reputation
                 ,
                 that
                 my
                 Oath
                 will
                 not
                 be
                 taken
                 .
                 So
                 that
                 you
                 are
                 safe
                 enough
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 What
                 is
                 your
                 business
                 with
                 me
                 ?
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 Only
                 to
                 Dialoguise
                 after
                 the
                 Mode
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 After
                 whose
                 mode
                 ?
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 The
                 new
                 Mode
                 of
                 Railing
                 :
                 Why
                 should
                 not
                 we
                 Rail
                 a
                 little
                 against
                 the
                 Times
                 ,
                 talk
                 Non-sence
                 ,
                 Rant
                 ,
                 Fence
                 ,
                 Examine
                 ,
                 Observe
                 ,
                 Abuse
                 the
                 People
                 ,
                 Pamphlets
                 ,
                 Manners
                 ,
                 Religion
                 and
                 Government
                 ,
                 as
                 well
                 as
                 other
                 Folk
                 ?
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 Nay
                 ,
                 now
                 I
                 see
                 you
                 are
                 no
                 well-meaning
                 Man
                 ●
                 no
                 lover
                 of
                 your
                 King
                 nor
                 Country
                 ,
                 a
                 hater
                 of
                 Government
                 ,
                 a
                 Man
                 of
                 no
                 Religion
                 ,
                 a
                 Dissenter
                 ,
                 a
                 Canting
                 Nonconformist
                 ,
                 a
                 Whig
                 of
                 the
                 last
                 Edition
                 ,
                 by
                 this
                 infailable
                 mark
                 of
                 hinting
                 against
                 the
                 ingenious
                 
                   Belphagor
                   Heraclitus
                
                 ,
                 and
                 the
                 most
                 indefatigable
                 Briarius
                 the
                 Observator
                 ,
                 who
                 has
                 built
                 a
                 Babel
                 with
                 his
                 hundred
                 Hands
                 ,
                 higher
                 than
                 that
                 of
                 Old
                 in
                 the
                 Plains
                 of
                 Shinar
                 ,
                 to
                 save
                 all
                 true
                 Protestants
                 from
                 the
                 Land
                 ▪
                 Floud
                 of
                 the
                 Whigs
                 ,
                 which
                 he
                 expects
                 .
              
            
             
               
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 I
                 think
                 you
                 are
                 as
                 fearless
                 as
                 Heraclitus
                 himself
                 ,
                 and
                 as
                 Malicious
                 as
                 the
                 Observator
                 ,
                 but
                 I
                 am
                 afraid
                 you
                 have
                 not
                 so
                 good
                 Spectacles
                 ,
                 else
                 I
                 would
                 desire
                 a
                 little
                 of
                 your
                 observation
                 in
                 Dialogue
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 If
                 I
                 may
                 have
                 any
                 Confidence
                 in
                 you
                 ,
                 and
                 that
                 you
                 will
                 not
                 speak
                 Treason
                 ,
                 I
                 don't
                 care
                 if
                 we
                 do
                 Dialogue
                 together
                 ,
                 to
                 get
                 us
                 a
                 Stomach
                 sometimes
                 to
                 our
                 Dinner
                 ,
                 as
                 well
                 as
                 other
                 People
                 ;
                 for
                 since
                 they
                 have
                 not
                 got
                 a
                 Licence
                 for
                 all
                 the
                 Talking
                 in
                 the
                 World
                 ,
                 why
                 should
                 not
                 we
                 chatt
                 a
                 little
                 ?
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 You
                 say
                 true
                 ,
                 they
                 have
                 no
                 Padlock
                 for
                 our
                 Tongues
                 ,
                 and
                 I
                 know
                 no
                 reason
                 ,
                 but
                 we
                 may
                 talk
                 as
                 well
                 as
                 they
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 But
                 then
                 we
                 must
                 talk
                 as
                 impertinently
                 ,
                 and
                 with
                 as
                 little
                 Sence
                 and
                 Reason
                 ,
                 and
                 with
                 an
                 huge
                 stock
                 of
                 Confidence
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 Nay
                 ,
                 We
                 must
                 learn
                 to
                 lye
                 too
                 ,
                 backbite
                 ,
                 defame
                 ,
                 rail
                 ,
                 threaten
                 ,
                 domineer
                 ,
                 and
                 triumph
                 over
                 the
                 weaker
                 side
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 That
                 I
                 have
                 not
                 yet
                 attain'd
                 to
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 But
                 we
                 may
                 observe
                 how
                 artificially
                 the
                 Tories
                 do
                 it
                 ,
                 and
                 learn
                 to
                 fence
                 after
                 their
                 manner
                 :
                 And
                 for
                 that
                 end
                 Cousen
                 
                   Some
                   body
                
                 ,
                 if
                 you
                 will
                 be
                 a
                 Whig
                 ,
                 I
                 will
                 shew
                 my self
                 a
                 Tory
                 ,
                 and
                 discourse
                 as
                 like
                 one
                 as
                 ever
                 you
                 heard
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 'T
                 is
                 a
                 dangerous
                 thing
                 to
                 take
                 the
                 Whigs
                 Party
                 ,
                 they
                 are
                 going
                 to
                 the
                 Wall
                 ,
                 nay
                 into
                 the
                 Kennel
                 ,
                 their
                 Meeting-houses
                 are
                 going
                 down
                 too
                 ,
                 there
                 's
                 a
                 Statute
                 for
                 it
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 And
                 as
                 the
                 wise
                 Observator
                 says
                 ,
                 may
                 they
                 not
                 thank
                 themselves
                 for
                 it
                 ?
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 For
                 being
                 so
                 quiet
                 in
                 them
                 ?
                 for
                 Preaching
                 and
                 Praying
                 ?
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 No
                 ,
                 for
                 medling
                 with
                 the
                 Government
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 A
                 black
                 Charge
                 ,
                 all
                 the
                 enormities
                 of
                 the
                 lewdest
                 People
                 are
                 charged
                 upon
                 them
                 without
                 Proof
                 or
                 Witness
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 How
                 so
                 ?
                 Is
                 not
                 Heraclitus
                 a
                 sufficient
                 Witness
                 ?
                 And
                 is
                 not
                 the
                 Observators
                 word
                 Proof
                 and
                 plain
                 Demonstration
                 ?
                 And
                 is
                 not
                 
                   N.
                   T.
                
                 to
                 be
                 believ'd
                 ?
                 what
                 would
                 you
                 have
                 ?
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 But
                 for
                 all
                 that
                 a
                 Grand
                 Jury
                 of
                 most
                 of
                 the
                 Nation
                 will
                 find
                 their
                 black
                 Bill
                 of
                 Charge
                 ,
                 IGNORAMUS
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 Then
                 shall
                 all
                 those
                 of
                 the
                 Nation
                 (
                 let
                 them
                 be
                 who
                 ,
                 and
                 as
                 many
                 as
                 they
                 will
                 )
                 be
                 accounted
                 by
                 them
                 as
                 bad
                 Fanatics
                 as
                 any
                 Grand
                 Jury
                 that
                 ever
                 sat
                 at
                 Hickes-Hall
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 But
                 is
                 this
                 the
                 way
                 to
                 be
                 of
                 one
                 Religion
                 ?
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 You
                 had
                 best
                 call
                 this
                 Persecution
                 do
                 ?
                 Sir
                 ,
                 the
                 Whigs
                 Schools
                 too
                 must
                 be
                 Reformed
                 ,
                 as
                 well
                 as
                 their
                 Conventicles
                 confounded
                 :
                 
                   No
                   more
                   Seminaries
                   nor
                   Nurseries
                
                 ,
                 Mark
                 that
                 !
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 That
                 's
                 the
                 right
                 way
                 indeed
                 to
                 be
                 of
                 one
                 Religion
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 Now
                 are
                 you
                 hinting
                 —
                 speak
                 out
                 Whig
                 ,
                 you
                 mean
                 Queen
                 Maries
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 Know
                 it
                 by
                 my
                 mumping
                 ,
                 if
                 you
                 will
                 these
                 are
                 not
                 times
                 to
                 speak
                 out
                 .
                 
                   Truth
                   is
                   not
                   to
                   be
                   spoken
                   at
                   all
                   times
                   .
                
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 Is
                 it
                 not
                 time
                 to
                 down
                 with
                 the
                 Conventicles
                 ,
                 when
                 as
                 the
                 
                   Observator
                   Observes
                
                 ,
                 they
                 convert
                 them
                 into
                 Work
                 houses
                 ?
                 What
                 a
                 many
                 several
                 Trades
                 has
                 he
                 found
                 among
                 them
                 ,
                 
                   Listers
                   ,
                   Canvasers
                   ,
                   Make-Parties
                   ,
                   Turners
                   ,
                   Cutters
                   ,
                   Casters
                
                 or
                 Founders
                 ?
                 and
                 all
                 these
                 at
                 the
                 Meeting-houses
                 .
                 Good
                 People
                 !
                 how
                 they
                 are
                 employed
                 ,
                 if
                 you
                 believe
                 him
                 ?
                 'T
                 is
                 fit
                 therefore
                 they
                 should
                 be
                 all
                 put
                 down
                 ,
                 as
                 well
                 as
                 the
                 
                   Covents
                   ,
                   Abbots
                   ,
                   Monkeries
                
                 and
                 Nunneries
                 were
                 by
                 Henry
                 VIII
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 But
                 I
                 doubt
                 the
                 King
                 won't
                 get
                 so
                 much
                 by
                 these
                 ,
                 as
                 Harry
                 did
                 by
                 them
                 :
                 They
                 were
                 put
                 down
                 for
                 being
                 idle
                 ,
                 lazy
                 Drones
                 ,
                 and
                 these
                 for
                 being
                 too
                 buisy
                 and
                 laborious
                 Workmen
                 .
                 
                   See
                   how
                   the
                   times
                   are
                   changed
                   .
                
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 But
                 they
                 are
                 meeting
                 apace
                 in
                 a
                 Reformation
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 And
                 shall
                 no
                 Dissentors
                 be
                 indulg'd
                 ?
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 There
                 are
                 a
                 sort
                 that
                 are
                 not
                 in
                 the
                 Observator's
                 List
                 ,
                 that
                 hope
                 yet
                 for
                 more
                 than
                 Indulgement
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 Prethee
                 ,
                 Are
                 there
                 not
                 several
                 sorts
                 of
                 Assentors
                 ,
                 or
                 Consentors
                 ,
                 as
                 well
                 as
                 Dissentors
                 ?
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 I
                 think
                 so
                 ,
                 but
                 name
                 them
                 your self
                 if
                 you
                 will.
                 
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 For
                 instance
                 then
                 ,
                 There
                 are
                 your
                 blind-fold
                 Assentors
                 ,
                 and
                 these
                 are
                 your
                 true
                 Ignoramuses
                 that
                 know
                 neither
                 the
                 Why
                 nor
                 the
                 Wherefore
                 ,
                 of
                 their
                 Religion
                 ;
                 they
                 consent
                 for
                 Form
                 sake
                 ,
                 and
                 assent
                 at
                 all
                 Adventures
                 ,
                 right
                 or
                 wrong
                 ,
                 and
                 see
                 no
                 more
                 into
                 a
                 Case
                 of
                 Conscience
                 ,
                 than
                 the
                 Observator
                 into
                 a
                 Millstone
                 .
                 Then
                 there
                 are
                 your
                 
                   Hypocritical
                   Consentors
                
                 ,
                 who
                 look
                 one
                 way
                 ,
                 and
                 row
                 another
                 ,
                 and
                 many
                 a
                 thousand
                 of
                 this
                 sort
                 ,
                 open
                 their
                 Mouths
                 loudest
                 against
                 Dissentors
                 :
                 These
                 the
                 Observator
                 overlooks
                 ,
                 or
                 will
                 not
                 observe
                 .
                 Then
                 you
                 have
                 your
                 wilful
                 Consentors
                 ,
                 who
                 will
                 neither
                 use
                 nor
                 understand
                 Reason
                 and
                 had
                 rather
                 a
                 third
                 part
                 of
                 the
                 Nation
                 should
                 perish
                 ,
                 than
                 part
                 with
                 the
                 least
                 shred
                 or
                 paring
                 of
                 the
                 Form
                 of
                 Religion
                 ,
                 and
                 had
                 rather
                 confound
                 a
                 Million
                 of
                 Dissentors
                 Consciences
                 ,
                 than
                 pa●t
                 with
                 an
                 indifferent
                 Bawble
                 :
                 These
                 are
                 they
                 who
                 will
                 hear
                 no
                 Reason
                 ,
                 for
                 
                   they
                   are
                   in
                   the
                   Right
                   they
                   're
                   sure
                   of
                   it
                   ,
                
                 and
                 cry
                 out
                 much
                 on
                 Religion
                 ,
                 
                   according
                   as
                   it
                   is
                   by
                   Law
                   Established
                   :
                
                 If
                 you
                 dissent
                 from
                 these
                 ,
                 they
                 cry
                 out
                 
                   Fanatic
                   ,
                   Whig
                   ,
                   Villain
                   ,
                   Traytor
                   ,
                
                 and
                 will
                 have
                 every
                 Conscience
                 Fancy
                 .
                 These
                 are
                 Men
                 also
                 stiff
                 to
                 their
                 Party
                 ,
                 are
                 for
                 Persecution
                 ,
                 and
                 
                   believe
                   as
                   the
                   Church
                   believe
                
                 ,
                 tho
                 they
                 know
                 not
                 what
                 it
                 is
                 .
                 And
                 as
                 for
                 
                   Spiteful
                   Assentors
                
                 ,
                 commend
                 me
                 to
                 those
                 who
                 cry
                 
                   down
                   ,
                   down
                   with
                   'em
                   ,
                   down
                   with
                   their
                   Conventicles
                   ,
                   down
                   with
                   their
                   Consciences
                   ,
                
                 and
                 then
                 pick
                 up
                 their
                 sayings
                 ,
                 rake
                 in
                 the
                 faults
                 of
                 Persons
                 ,
                 speak
                 against
                 every
                 one
                 that
                 crosses
                 them
                 ,
                 and
                 would
                 fain
                 have
                 the
                 Statute
                 renewed
                 for
                 the
                 Writ
                 
                   De
                   Comburend●
                   Hareticis
                
                 .
                 These
                 are
                 a
                 sort
                 of
                 virulent
                 ,
                 malicious
                 Assentors
                 ,
                 that
                 would
                 be
                 ,
                 if
                 they
                 might
                 ,
                 as
                 Willful
                 and
                 as
                 Cruel
                 as
                 the
                 Papists
                 .
              
            
          
        
         
           
             
               London
               ,
               Printed
               for
               
                 E.
                 Smith
              
               ,
               at
               the
               Elephant
               and
               Castle
               in
               Cornhil
               .
               1081.
               
            
          
        
      
       
         
           
             
             
               Numb
               .
               2.
               
               A
               New
               DIALOGUE
               BETWEEN
               
                 Some
                 body
                 and
                 No
                 body
              
               .
               OR
               THE
               Observator
               Observed
               .
            
             
               
                 Tuesday
                 ,
                 
                   November
                   29.
                   1681.
                   
                
              
            
             
               
                 No
                 body
                 .
              
               
                 WELL
                 met
                 ,
                 well
                 met
                 Cousen
                 
                   Some
                   body
                
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 Some
                 body
                 ,
              
               
                 Nay
                 Mr.
                 
                   No
                   body
                
                 ,
                 I
                 can't
                 tell
                 that
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 What
                 are
                 you
                 sick
                 then
                 ?
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 Not
                 sick
                 neither
                 ,
                 but
                 I
                 don't
                 care
                 to
                 be
                 met
                 with
                 :
                 Meetings
                 must
                 be
                 put
                 down
                 ,
                 there
                 must
                 be
                 no
                 Meetings
                 ,
                 therefore
                 I
                 will
                 turn
                 and
                 go
                 backward
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 Must
                 I
                 speak
                 then
                 to
                 your
                 Back-Side
                 ?
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 Ay
                 ,
                 Ay
                 ,
                 all
                 things
                 are
                 
                   Arsa
                   versa
                   ,
                   topsie
                   turvie
                   ,
                   histeron
                   ,
                   proteron
                
                 —
                 The
                 Chimes
                 go
                 backward
                 ,
                 the
                 World
                 runs
                 backward
                 ,
                 the
                 Age
                 backslides
                 ,
                 and
                 all
                 things
                 turn
                 backward
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 I
                 perceive
                 you
                 are
                 an
                 Ignoramus
                 ,
                 a
                 very
                 Whiggish
                 ;
                 wilful
                 Ignoramus
                 ,
                 that
                 would
                 change
                 the
                 Times
                 as
                 well
                 as
                 alter
                 the
                 Laws
                 —
                 You
                 are
                 a
                 mear
                 
                   Stat
                   pro
                   ratione
                   voluntas
                
                 .
                 All
                 this
                 grumbling
                 over
                 the
                 Gizzard
                 is
                 because
                 the
                 Westminster
                 Boys
                 burnt
                 —
                 in
                 Effigie
                 :
                 is
                 it
                 not
                 so
                 ?
                 Come
                 ,
                 come
                 ,
                 they
                 are
                 not
                 Queen
                 Maries
                 days
                 yet
                 ,
                 they
                 are
                 peaceable
                 days
                 still
                 ;
                 't
                 is
                 but
                 
                   Iack
                   Presbyter
                
                 instead
                 of
                 Mr.
                 Pope
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 I
                 say
                 nothing
                 to
                 
                   No
                   body
                
                 ,
                 but
                 let
                 me
                 think
                 ,
                 tho
                 't
                 is
                 somewhat
                 strange
                 to
                 see
                 such
                 a
                 twerl-about
                 on
                 Gun-powder
                 Treason
                 day
                 ,
                 a
                 clout
                 Pope
                 to
                 be
                 rescued
                 from
                 the
                 Fire
                 ,
                 and
                 the
                 Image
                 of
                 a
                 noted
                 Protestant
                 Preacher
                 to
                 be
                 burnt
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 Yes
                 with
                 all
                 the
                 Ignoramus's
                 and
                 Addresses
                 for
                 a
                 Parliament
                 to
                 boot
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 'T
                 is
                 now
                 as
                 they
                 would
                 have
                 it
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 No
                 it
                 is
                 not
                 yet
                 as
                 they
                 would
                 have
                 it
                 .
                 for
                 you
                 have
                 the
                 
                   Loyal
                   Protestants
                
                 word
                 for
                 it
                 ,
                 
                   That
                   as
                   a
                   great
                   expression
                   of
                   Loyalty
                   to
                   His
                   Majesty
                   they
                
                 (
                 or
                 Mr.
                 
                   Some
                   body
                   )
                   wished
                   the
                   real
                   Person
                   of
                   whom
                   the
                   Image
                   represented
                   and
                   all
                   his
                   Followers
                   ,
                
                 (
                 that
                 is
                 ,
                 all
                 
                   Protestant
                   Dissenters
                   )
                   had
                   been
                   burnt
                   with
                   him
                   .
                
                 So
                 that
                 you
                 see
                 it
                 is
                 not
                 yet
                 as
                 they
                 would
                 have
                 it
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 'T
                 is
                 pretty
                 well
                 towards
                 —
                 on
                 my
                 word
                 ,
                 when
                 that
                 horrid
                 Contrivance
                 of
                 the
                 
                   Gunpowder
                   Plot
                
                 is
                 forgotten
                 ,
                 or
                 durst
                 not
                 be
                 owned
                 by
                 the
                 burning
                 of
                 a
                 Pope
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 One
                 Nail
                 drives
                 out
                 another
                 ;
                 the
                 new
                 
                   Presbyterian
                   ,
                   Whiggish
                
                 Plot
                 ,
                 has
                 driven
                 out
                 the
                 Old
                 and
                 New
                 
                   Popish
                   Plots
                
                 ,
                 as
                 if
                 they
                 had
                 never
                 ●een
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 That
                 is
                 because
                 the
                 one
                 is
                 real
                 ,
                 the
                 other
                 imagined
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 Which
                 mean
                 you
                 ?
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 Nay
                 there
                 I
                 am
                 Ignoramus
                 ,
                 and
                 satisfied
                 in
                 my
                 own
                 Conscience
                 ,
                 and
                 will
                 not
                 declare
                 you
                 my
                 Reasons
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 Why
                 then
                 you
                 are
                 a
                 most
                 wilful
                 Ignoramus
                 ,
                 when
                 Heraclitus
                 has
                 made
                 it
                 as
                 plain
                 as
                 the
                 Nose
                 on
                 your
                 Face
                 ,
                 that
                 
                   by
                   putting
                   none
                   but
                   known
                   Dissenters
                   upon
                   the
                   Pannels
                   ,
                   is
                   a
                   most
                   sufficient
                   evidence
                   of
                   a
                   Whiggish
                   Plot
                   as
                   a
                   man
                   can
                   wish
                   or
                   desire
                   .
                
                 Besides
                 ,
                 to
                 strengthen
                 it
                 ,
                 the
                 Narrative
                 of
                 the
                 Dr.
                 of
                 the
                 Tower
                 —
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 But
                 what
                 if
                 I
                 can't
                 believe
                 it
                 ?
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 Then
                 I
                 say
                 you
                 have
                 an
                 Ignoramus
                 Conscience
                 ,
                 and
                 shall
                 be
                 called
                 to
                 account
                 for
                 it
              
               
                 
                   You
                   must
                   come
                   to
                   ,
                   and
                   you
                   shall
                   come
                   to
                   ,
                
                 
                   And
                   you
                   must
                   come
                   whether
                   you
                   w●ll
                   or
                   no.
                   
                
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 In
                 the
                 mean
                 time
                 I
                 'll
                 keep
                 the
                 〈◊〉
                 till
                 we
                 are
                 out
                 of
                 the
                 Wood.
                 
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 Mr.
                 Ignoramus
                 is
                 about
                 to
                 bring
                 you
                 out
                 of
                 it
                 ,
                 if
                 you
                 will
                 have
                 patience
                 Heraclitus
                 says
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 Patience
                 !
                 't
                 is
                 the
                 chiefest
                 vertue
                 that
                 has
                 been
                 exercised
                 of
                 late
                 .
                 O
                 blessed
                 Patience
                 !
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 Now
                 are
                 you
                 praying
                 backwards
                 ;
                 there
                 is
                 no
                 understanding
                 
                   Some
                   body
                
                 ,
                 he
                 speaks
                 one
                 thing
                 and
                 means
                 another
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 Don't
                 take
                 me
                 for
                 a
                 Iesuite
                 or
                 a
                 Tory.
                 
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 But
                 I
                 take
                 you
                 to
                 be
                 a
                 Man
                 in
                 a
                 Cloke
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 What
                 mean
                 you
                 ?
                 the
                 
                   Loyal
                   Protestant's
                
                 Holder-forth
                 ,
                 so
                 like
                 Dr.
                 Glanvil's
                 Devil
                 ?
                 then
                 you
                 take
                 me
                 for
                 a
                 damn'd
                 Whig
                 ?
              
            
             
               
                 N
                 :
              
               
                 No
                 Cousen
                 ,
                 I
                 must
                 observe
                 to
                 you
                 a
                 little
                 better
                 than
                 so
                 ,
                 for
                 the
                 great
                 Oracle
                 of
                 the
                 Nation
                 has
                 pronounc'd
                 it
                 ,
                 that
                 some
                 Whigs
                 may
                 be
                 sav'd
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 Why
                 this
                 is
                 the
                 greatest
                 Proof
                 that
                 he
                 ever
                 gave
                 that
                 he
                 is
                 no
                 Papist
                 ;
                 for
                 the
                 Papists
                 hold
                 ,
                 
                   That
                   no
                   Hereticks
                   can
                   be
                   saved
                   ,
                
                 and
                 that
                 
                   all
                   who
                   are
                   not
                   of
                   their
                   Church
                   are
                   HERETICKS
                   :
                
                 But
                 if
                 he
                 has
                 said
                 a
                 Whig
                 may
                 be
                 saved
                 ,
                 infallibly
                 he
                 is
                 no
                 Papist
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 But
                 mark
                 you
                 my
                 Friend
                 ,
                 't
                 is
                 only
                 a
                 
                   Christian
                   Whig
                
                 that
                 can
                 be
                 saved
                 ,
                 and
                 such
                 
                   Whigs
                   may
                   make
                   this
                   Nation
                   the
                   happiest
                   People
                   on
                   the
                   face
                   of
                   the
                   Earth
                   ,
                   they
                   are
                   common
                   blessings
                   ,
                   and
                   to
                   their
                   power
                   do
                   good
                   to
                   all
                   men
                   .
                
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 I
                 'm
                 glad
                 to
                 hear
                 it
                 with
                 all
                 my
                 heart
                 ;
                 and
                 why
                 is
                 this
                 Man
                 so
                 bitter
                 against
                 the
                 Whigs
                 then
                 ?
                 since
                 there
                 may
                 be
                 many
                 Hundreds
                 ,
                 if
                 not
                 Thousands
                 of
                 such
                 
                   Christian
                   Whigs
                
                 ,
                 that
                 are
                 Dissenters
                 in
                 the
                 Nation
                 ;
                 good
                 ,
                 just
                 ,
                 holy
                 ,
                 pious
                 ,
                 conscientious
                 ,
                 charitable
                 Whigs
                 ,
                 that
                 meddle
                 not
                 with
                 the
                 Government
                 ,
                 give
                 no
                 embroil
                 ,
                 or
                 trouble
                 
                 to
                 it
                 ,
                 but
                 walk
                 according
                 to
                 the
                 true
                 tenderness
                 of
                 their
                 Opinion
                 ;
                 and
                 yet
                 if
                 I
                 am
                 not
                 mistaken
                 ,
                 he
                 has
                 in
                 other
                 places
                 said
                 ,
                 there
                 could
                 be
                 none
                 of
                 the
                 Dissenters
                 good
                 ,
                 no
                 not
                 one
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 He
                 speaks
                 only
                 against
                 factious
                 ,
                 unchristian
                 Whigs
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 Faction
                 has
                 no
                 part
                 in
                 Religion
                 ;
                 but
                 let
                 him
                 not
                 under
                 that
                 Notion
                 ,
                 draw
                 in
                 and
                 comprehend
                 all
                 Men
                 that
                 dissent
                 from
                 the
                 Church
                 of
                 England
                 ,
                 as
                 he
                 has
                 too
                 often
                 done
                 .
                 Let
                 him
                 rail
                 against
                 the
                 Factious
                 ,
                 as
                 much
                 as
                 he
                 pleases
                 ;
                 they
                 may
                 be
                 on
                 the
                 one
                 hand
                 ,
                 as
                 well
                 as
                 the
                 other
                 ;
                 but
                 he
                 has
                 endeavoured
                 by
                 that
                 means
                 ,
                 to
                 shoulder
                 out
                 all
                 
                   Protestant
                   Dissenters
                
                 ,
                 under
                 the
                 Titles
                 of
                 Fanaticks
                 and
                 Whigs
                 ,
                 however
                 the
                 evil
                 Spirit
                 came
                 to
                 be
                 allay'd
                 at
                 this
                 time
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 He
                 had
                 spent
                 much
                 of
                 his
                 Gall
                 before
                 ,
                 and
                 his
                 Cholodock
                 Vessels
                 were
                 empty
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 But
                 they
                 will
                 soon
                 fill
                 again
                 ,
                 for
                 Choller
                 is
                 the
                 predominate
                 humor
                 of
                 his
                 Constitution
                 ,
                 and
                 you
                 shall
                 hear
                 him
                 shortly
                 as
                 hot
                 as
                 ever
                 against
                 Dissenters
                 ,
                 and
                 make
                 them
                 as
                 very
                 Devils
                 and
                 Hobgoblings
                 as
                 his
                 Pen
                 can
                 paint
                 them
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 I
                 think
                 you
                 are
                 a
                 Witch
                 ,
                 for
                 the
                 very
                 next
                 appearance
                 he
                 makes
                 ,
                 he
                 's
                 at
                 his
                 old
                 Vomit
                 ,
                 Choller
                 and
                 Gall
                 :
                 —
                 Whiggish
                 Murthers
                 and
                 Massacres
                 ;
                 Whiggish
                 Blasphemy
                 and
                 Treasons
                 ;
                 Whiggish
                 Plots
                 and
                 Rebellions
                 ;
                 he
                 spends
                 like
                 Thunder
                 on
                 the
                 old
                 scent
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 Don't
                 you
                 know
                 the
                 reason
                 of
                 that
                 ?
                 He
                 has
                 told
                 you
                 himself
                 ,
                 
                   That
                   he
                   must
                   needs
                   go
                   whom
                   the
                   Devil
                   drives
                   .
                
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 There
                 he
                 calls
                 the
                 Parliament
                 ,
                 or
                 the
                 Commons
                 at
                 least
                 ,
                 Devils
                 by
                 craft
                 ;
                 they
                 are
                 all
                 of
                 them
                 very
                 Belphegors
                 to
                 him
                 ,
                 and
                 will
                 send
                 him
                 again
                 into
                 the
                 Netherlands
                 .
                 But
                 't
                 is
                 you
                 Mr.
                 Dissenting
                 
                   Some
                   body
                
                 that
                 
                   by
                   assuming
                   the
                   appellation
                   of
                
                 Protestant
                 ,
                 
                   has
                   brought
                   the
                   dignity
                   of
                   that
                   Profession
                   into
                   Contempt
                   .
                
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 Or
                 rather
                 ,
                 have
                 not
                 the
                 Tories
                 and
                 Tantivies
                 of
                 your
                 Acquaintance
                 ,
                 brought
                 a
                 scandal
                 and
                 suspicion
                 upon
                 many
                 of
                 the
                 Church
                 of
                 England
                 ,
                 by
                 their
                 strange
                 Methods
                 of
                 justifying
                 them
                 ,
                 and
                 condemning
                 all
                 Protestants
                 in
                 the
                 World
                 besides
                 ?
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 Be
                 advised
                 ,
                 and
                 leave
                 Luther
                 ,
                 think
                 on
                 the
                 name
                 no
                 more
                 ,
                 
                   there
                   is
                   no
                   such
                   denomination
                   in
                   Scripture
                
                 ;
                 let
                 it
                 be
                 hence
                 forward
                 Christian
                 ,
                 for
                 I
                 am
                 almost
                 ashamed
                 of
                 the
                 other
                 name
                 now
                 ,
                 since
                 your
                 taking
                 it
                 upon
                 you
                 ,
                 being
                 a
                 
                   dissenting
                   Whig
                
                 ,
                 has
                 so
                 much
                 abused
                 it
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 I
                 am
                 content
                 friend
                 ,
                 I
                 like
                 the
                 Name
                 well
                 ;
                 but
                 tell
                 me
                 ,
                 mayn't
                 I
                 be
                 still
                 a
                 
                   dissenting
                   Christian
                
                 ,
                 or
                 a
                 
                   Christian
                   Dissenter
                
                 ?
                 and
                 will
                 not
                 that
                 render
                 me
                 then
                 to
                 a
                 Tory
                 or
                 a
                 Papist
                 ,
                 lyable
                 to
                 be
                 compared
                 with
                 a
                 Mahometan
                 ,
                 as
                 most
                 religiously
                 is
                 observed
                 by
                 the
                 Observator
                 ?
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 Why
                 ,
                 to
                 tell
                 you
                 truly
                 ,
                 if
                 you
                 will
                 be
                 a
                 
                   Dissenting
                   Christian
                
                 ,
                 according
                 to
                 the
                 Tory
                 Creed
                 ,
                 you
                 shall
                 be
                 no
                 more
                 than
                 a
                 Turk
                 or
                 a
                 Iew
                 ,
                 nor
                 so
                 much
                 neither
                 ;
                 but
                 look
                 you
                 ,
                 
                   if
                   you
                   will
                   live
                   in
                   submission
                   to
                   your
                   Superiours
                   ,
                
                 the
                 Pope
                 and
                 his
                 Priests
                 ,
                 and
                 be
                 so
                 charitable
                 as
                 to
                 believe
                 all
                 for
                 Gospel
                 ,
                 what
                 some
                 will
                 tell
                 you
                 ,
                 then
                 you
                 may
                 own
                 the
                 Name
                 ,
                 but
                 to
                 take
                 up
                 the
                 Name
                 of
                 Proestant
                 (
                 as
                 the
                 Whigs
                 do
                 )
                 
                   to
                   steal
                   Horses
                   only
                   ,
                   or
                   to
                   take
                   up
                   money
                   upon
                   Credit
                   ,
                   is
                   a
                   plous
                   fraud
                   that
                   the
                   Church
                   of
                
                 Rome
                 
                   itself
                   has
                   not
                   been
                   hold
                   enough
                   to
                   venture
                   upon
                   .
                
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 How
                 tender
                 of
                 the
                 Church
                 of
                 Romes
                 Reputation
                 are
                 you
                 grown
                 !
                 Good
                 Christians
                 all
                 ,
                 that
                 seem
                 what
                 they
                 are
                 .
                 
                   True
                   haters
                   of
                   Hereticks
                
                 ,
                 and
                 all
                 sorts
                 of
                 Protestants
                 !
                 But
                 since
                 we
                 are
                 not
                 to
                 be
                 called
                 Protestants
                 ,
                 and
                 that
                 
                   Dissenting
                   Christians
                
                 implys
                 the
                 same
                 thing
                 ,
                 what
                 Name
                 shall
                 we
                 have
                 ?
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 As
                 for
                 that
                 ,
                 your
                 Godfathers
                 the
                 Observator
                 and
                 Heraclitus
                 have
                 given
                 you
                 Names
                 sufficient
                 ,
                 as
                 
                   Fanaticks
                   ,
                   Whigs
                   ,
                   Traytors
                   ,
                   Rebels
                   ,
                   Villains
                   ,
                
                 and
                 many
                 other
                 such
                 like
                 most
                 Christian
                 Appellations
                 ,
                 to
                 distinguish
                 you
                 from
                 the
                 Romish
                 Church
                 :
                 But
                 we
                 will
                 allow
                 you
                 to
                 be
                 a
                 
                   Dissenting
                   Protestant
                
                 ,
                 or
                 a
                 
                   Dissenting
                   Christian
                
                 ;
                 but
                 by
                 no
                 means
                 a
                 
                   Protestant
                   Dissenter
                
                 ,
                 or
                 a
                 
                   Protesting
                   Christian.
                
                 
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 What
                 Fiddling
                 is
                 this
                 upon
                 words
                 !
                 It
                 jingles
                 like
                 a
                 tinkling
                 Cymbal
                 ,
                 with
                 a
                 noise
                 without
                 Musick
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 Something
                 like
                 Le
                 Strang's
                 Notes
                 upon
                 Colledg
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 I
                 see
                 you
                 are
                 about
                 to
                 speak
                 against
                 the
                 Government
                 ,
                 therefore
                 I
                 'll
                 leave
                 you
                 ;
                 for
                 I
                 fear
                 't
                 is
                 to
                 draw
                 me
                 in
                 with
                 your
                 new
                 
                 Irish
                 ●way
                 of
                 Dialoguising
                 :
                 To
                 speak
                 against
                 
                   L.
                   S.
                
                 or
                 any
                 of
                 his
                 pious
                 words
                 ,
                 is
                 to
                 speak
                 against
                 both
                 Religion
                 ,
                 Law
                 ,
                 King
                 ,
                 Court
                 ,
                 Council
                 ,
                 and
                 all
                 that
                 ,
                 &c.
                 
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 Nay
                 Sir
                 ,
                 He
                 's
                 more
                 than
                 all
                 that
                 I
                 'll
                 assure
                 you
                 ,
                 but
                 as
                 to
                 his
                 Notes
                 upon
                 Colledg
                 ,
                 I
                 have
                 nothing
                 more
                 to
                 observe
                 to
                 you
                 ,
                 but
                 that
                 he
                 begins
                 well
                 to
                 his
                 Reader
                 .
                 It
                 
                   is
                   not
                   the
                   part
                   of
                   a
                   Christian
                   ,
                   nor
                   indeed
                   of
                   a
                   man
                
                 (
                 except
                 himself
                 )
                 
                   to
                   insult
                   upon
                   the
                   miserable
                   ,
                   either
                   in
                   their
                   Memorys
                   ,
                   or
                   in
                   their
                   Persons
                   ,
                   besides
                   that
                   the
                   Criminal
                   here
                   in
                   Question
                   ,
                   has
                   already
                   satisfied
                   Publique
                   Iustice
                   ,
                
                 &c.
                 
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 Then
                 comes
                 a
                 
                   Yet
                   this
                   doth
                   not
                   hinder
                   but
                   that
                   a
                   man
                   may
                   ,
                
                 according
                 to
                 his
                 Talent
                 ,
                 honestly
                 satisfie
                 this
                 Morality
                 ,
                 by
                 endeavouring
                 to
                 say
                 as
                 much
                 ill
                 of
                 an
                 Executed
                 Dissenter
                 ,
                 as
                 he
                 can
                 ;
                 and
                 that
                 notwithstanding
                 all
                 his
                 knowledge
                 in
                 Heathenish
                 and
                 Christian
                 Morals
                 ,
                 for
                 the
                 Cause
                 ,
                 and
                 something
                 Else
                 sake
                 ,
                 he
                 may
                 honestly
                 be
                 permitted
                 to
                 rake
                 in
                 the
                 Ashes
                 of
                 the
                 Dead
                 ,
                 disturb
                 their
                 Memory
                 ,
                 fling
                 Dung
                 on
                 their
                 Words
                 ,
                 Execute
                 them
                 over
                 again
                 ,
                 play
                 a
                 second
                 
                 Ketch's
                 part
                 ,
                 and
                 dissect
                 their
                 bowels
                 ,
                 draw
                 out
                 ,
                 with
                 twisting
                 inferences
                 their
                 words
                 ,
                 shew
                 their
                 thoughts
                 ,
                 expound
                 their
                 meanings
                 ,
                 and
                 let
                 no
                 part
                 of
                 their
                 Quarters
                 rest
                 in
                 quiet
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 But
                 to
                 leave
                 this
                 stuff
                 ,
                 what
                 say
                 you
                 to
                 
                 Heraclitus's
                 last
                 Ballad
                 ,
                 of
                 
                   The
                   Whigs
                   Save-all
                
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 I
                 don't
                 care
                 if
                 I
                 give
                 you
                 another
                 ,
                 't
                 is
                 called
                 :
              
               
                 
                   
                     The
                     Torys
                     burn
                     all
                  
                   ,
                   Or
                   ,
                
                 
                   
                     The
                     Tories
                     Candles
                     End
                     upon
                     the
                     Whigs
                     Save-all
                     .
                  
                
                 
                   To
                   London
                   make
                   hast
                   .
                
                 
                   While
                   the
                   Candle
                   doth
                   last
                   ,
                
                 
                   Now
                   the
                   People
                   are
                   all
                   in
                   a
                   maze
                   ;
                
                 
                   For
                   our
                   old
                   cause
                   here
                   ,
                
                 
                   Does
                   in
                   Triumph
                   appear
                   ,
                
                 
                   Tho'
                   our
                   Candle
                   is
                   e'en
                   at
                   last
                   blaze
                   .
                
                 
                   We'ave
                   borrow'd
                   Whigs
                   Save
                   all
                   ,
                
                 
                   That
                   our
                   Candle
                   might
                   have
                   all
                
                 
                   Th'
                   advantage
                   that
                   we
                   can
                   give
                   it
                
                 
                   Our
                   Lies
                   tho
                   but
                   shallow
                   ,
                
                 
                   Do
                   serve
                   us
                   for
                   Tallow
                   ,
                
                 
                   With
                   which
                   we
                   take
                   care
                   to
                   relieve
                   it
                   .
                
                 
                   We'ave
                   more
                   tricks
                   than
                   one
                   .
                
                 
                   And
                   turn
                   every
                   Stone
                
                 
                   To
                   bring
                   in
                   the
                   Popish
                   Religion
                   :
                
                 
                   Let
                   no
                   Man
                   then
                   blame
                   us
                   ,
                
                 
                   For
                   sham
                   Ignoramus
                   ,
                
                 
                   To
                   cheat
                   a
                   Whig
                   ,
                   or
                   a
                   
                     Protestant
                     Widgeon
                  
                   .
                
                 
                   O
                   now
                   for
                   a
                   Jury
                   ,
                
                 
                   Of
                   Papist
                   and
                   Tory
                   ,
                
                 
                   To
                   believe
                   all
                   that
                   is
                   a
                   mear
                   a
                   —
                
                 
                   As
                   e're
                   was
                   swore
                   by
                   the
                   true
                   ,
                
                 
                   Papistical
                   Crew
                   ;
                
                 
                   And
                   against
                   Tapsky
                   to
                   find
                   
                     Billa
                     Vera.
                  
                
                 
                   We
                   can
                   hang
                   ,
                   we
                   can
                   burn
                   ,
                
                 
                   If
                   once
                   the
                   Tyde
                   turn
                   ,
                
                 
                   We
                   then
                   shall
                   have
                   our
                   Mandamus
                   :
                
                 
                   Then
                   Whigs
                   you
                   must
                   turn
                   all
                   ,
                
                 
                   Or
                   else
                   you
                   shall
                   burn
                   all
                   ,
                
                 
                   We
                   'll
                   ne'r
                   find
                   a
                   Bill
                   Ignoramus
                   .
                
                 
                   If
                   Candles-End
                   doth
                   last
                   ,
                
                 
                   Till
                   some
                   time
                   be
                   past
                   ,
                
                 
                   Tho
                   it
                   grow
                   so
                   neer
                   to
                   the
                   Snuff
                   ;
                
                 
                   To
                   affect
                   our
                   desire
                
                 
                   In
                   kindling
                   a
                   Fire
                
                 
                   It
                   will
                   serve
                   all
                   our
                   turns
                   well
                   enough
                   .
                
                 
                   Then
                   will
                   we
                   remember
                   ,
                
                 
                   Whigs
                   Fifth
                   of
                   November
                   ,
                
                 
                   And
                   their
                   burning
                   of
                   so
                   many
                   Popes
                   ,
                
                 
                   Th'
                   Image
                   shan't
                   serve
                   turn
                   ,
                
                 
                   Live
                   Whigs
                   we
                   will
                   burn
                   ,
                
                 
                   And
                   their
                   Save-alls
                   hang
                   up
                   in
                   our
                   Ropes
                   .
                
                 
                   Then
                   it
                   shall
                   appear
                   ,
                
                 
                   We
                   can
                   domineer
                   .
                
                 
                   And
                   in
                   our
                   damn'd
                   Crimes
                   we
                   can
                   glory
                   ;
                
                 
                   For
                   when
                   we
                   expire
                   ,
                
                 
                   We
                   fear
                   not
                   Hell-Fire
                   ,
                
                 
                   And
                   can
                   be
                   pray'd
                   out
                   of
                   Furgatory
                   .
                
              
            
          
        
         
           
             
               London
               ,
               Printed
               for
               
                 El.
                 Smith
              
               ,
               at
               the
               Elephant
               and
               Castle
               in
               Cornhil
               .
               1081.
               
            
          
        
      
       
         
           
             
             
               Numb
               .
               3.
               
               A
               New
               DIALOGUE
               BETWEEN
               Somebody
               &
               Nobody
               .
               OR
               THE
               
                 Observator
                 and
                 Heraclitus
              
               OBSERVED
               .
            
             
               
                 Monday
                 ,
                 
                   December
                   5.
                   1681.
                   
                
              
            
             
               
                 No-body
                 .
              
               
                 WHat
                 in
                 a
                 brown
                 study
                 ?
                 what
                 ha'
                 you
                 there
                 ,
                 Heraclitus
                 railing
                 against
                 the
                 
                   No
                   Protestant
                   Plot
                
                 ?
                 a
                 most
                 wicked
                 Libel
                 ,
                 which
                 ,
                 like
                 the
                 Shams
                 ,
                 begets
                 another
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 Some-body
                 .
              
               
                 I
                 am
                 laughing
                 to
                 see
                 the
                 Fellow
                 mumble
                 a
                 company
                 of
                 Pebbles
                 ,
                 taking
                 them
                 to
                 be
                 Nuts
                 ;
                 he
                 thinks
                 to
                 crack
                 them
                 ,
                 and
                 breaks
                 the
                 stumps
                 in
                 his
                 Mouth
                 :
                 Is
                 not
                 Swinger
                 a
                 kin
                 to
                 you
                 ?
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 He
                 is
                 one
                 of
                 the
                 Some-bodys
                 I
                 assure
                 you
                 ,
                 but
                 which
                 of
                 them
                 I
                 cannot
                 tell
                 you
                 :
                 But
                 I
                 wonder
                 he
                 could
                 not
                 be
                 met
                 with
                 in
                 the
                 
                   Protestant
                   Banio
                
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 He
                 is
                 acquainted
                 indeed
                 with
                 the
                 Rubbers
                 ,
                 tho
                 they
                 are
                 a
                 numerous
                 Corporation
                 ,
                 ever
                 since
                 they
                 have
                 rub'd
                 the
                 
                   Popish
                   Plot
                
                 out
                 of
                 sight
                 .
                 They
                 have
                 rub'd
                 a
                 Iesuite
                 into
                 a
                 Presbyter
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 Yes
                 ,
                 they
                 would
                 feign
                 rub
                 out
                 the
                 Mayors
                 Sign
                 of
                 Sir
                 
                   Ed.
                   Godfrey
                
                 too
                 ,
                 that
                 offends
                 the
                 Rubbers
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 But
                 they
                 will
                 never
                 be
                 able
                 to
                 rub
                 the
                 stain
                 out
                 of
                 the
                 Peoples
                 Memorie
                 ,
                 let
                 them
                 rub
                 their
                 hearts
                 out
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 There
                 are
                 some
                 who
                 think
                 to
                 do
                 it
                 with
                 the
                 Brish
                 of
                 
                   Scandalum
                   Magnatum
                
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 That
                 's
                 nothing
                 to
                 the
                 rubbing
                 of
                 one
                 man
                 into
                 two
                 :
                 There
                 's
                 a
                 Miracle
                 for
                 you
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 Not
                 so
                 great
                 neither
                 ,
                 as
                 the
                 Tory
                 Rubbers
                 have
                 performed
                 ,
                 who
                 have
                 rub'd
                 6
                 or
                 7
                 Traytors
                 into
                 Saints
                 .
                 Come
                 Sir
                 ,
                 they
                 know
                 how
                 to
                 rub
                 and
                 Let
                 too
                 ,
                 as
                 well
                 as
                 the
                 best
                 Fanatical
                 Rubbers
                 of
                 them
                 all
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 If
                 you
                 begin
                 to
                 make
                 Comparisons
                 I
                 'll
                 leave
                 you
                 ;
                 you
                 are
                 as
                 spiteful
                 as
                 Heraclitus
                 ,
                 and
                 as
                 malicious
                 as
                 the
                 Observator
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 And
                 have
                 they
                 not
                 reason
                 to
                 be
                 so
                 ,
                 when
                 the
                 Whigs
                 present
                 their
                 Papers
                 for
                 a
                 Neusance
                 ?
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 And
                 much
                 they
                 care
                 for
                 it
                 ;
                 for
                 they
                 are
                 still
                 ready
                 to
                 present
                 the
                 Whigs
                 with
                 2
                 or
                 3
                 sheets
                 of
                 Bumfodder
                 to
                 rub
                 their
                 —
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 You
                 remember
                 the
                 Observator
                 says
                 ,
                 
                   things
                   must
                   be
                   done
                   decently
                   and
                   in
                   order
                   .
                
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 And
                 I
                 remember
                 too
                 ,
                 that
                 that
                 Text
                 made
                 an
                 honest
                 man
                 lose
                 his
                 Dinner
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 That
                 's
                 a
                 mistake
                 ,
                 it
                 was
                 not
                 the
                 Text
                 ,
                 but
                 the
                 ill
                 handling
                 that
                 Text
                 made
                 the
                 honest
                 man
                 lose
                 his
                 Dinner
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 That
                 Observator
                 is
                 an
                 insulting
                 fellow
                 over
                 the
                 dead
                 ,
                 Observe
                 his
                 Notes
                 and
                 his
                 Sayings
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 'T
                 is
                 but
                 only
                 to
                 inform
                 the
                 living
                 ,
                 and
                 to
                 disabuse
                 the
                 People
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 Good
                 Man
                 !
                 I
                 will
                 put
                 you
                 one
                 Query
                 .
                 
                   Why
                   this
                   Gentleman
                   never
                   wrote
                   Notes
                   on
                   the
                   Five
                   Iesuites
                   ,
                   who
                   said
                   they
                   dy'd
                   innocent
                   ?
                   nor
                   by
                   his
                   convincing
                   way
                   of
                   arguing
                   ,
                   informed
                   the
                   Living
                   ,
                   or
                   disabused
                   the
                   Common
                   People
                   ,
                   too
                   many
                   of
                   whom
                   were
                   apt
                   to
                   believe
                   the
                   dying
                   words
                   of
                   such
                   holy
                   men
                   ?
                
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 Because
                 he
                 thought
                 them
                 better
                 Christians
                 than
                 those
                 he
                 writes
                 against
                 :
                 But
                 let
                 me
                 ask
                 you
                 one
                 Question
                 ,
                 what
                 were
                 you
                 studying
                 on
                 ?
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 To
                 English
                 a
                 little
                 more
                 than
                 a
                 line
                 of
                 Horace
                 ,
                 in
                 the
                 Front
                 of
                 
                   Heraclitus
                   ,
                   Numb
                
                 .
                 43.
                 
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 What
                 need
                 you
                 trouble
                 your self
                 ,
                 he
                 has
                 done
                 it
                 for
                 you
                 ?
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 Even
                 as
                 the
                 Papists
                 interpret
                 Scripture
                 :
                 He
                 has
                 made
                 the
                 Whigs
                 of
                 Ancient
                 standing
                 :
                 But
                 since
                 Horace
                 was
                 a
                 Roman
                 ,
                 I
                 think
                 it
                 may
                 be
                 better
                 apply'd
                 to
                 his
                 People
                 ,
                 who
                 pray
                 to
                 such
                 Saints
                 ,
                 and
                 then
                 I
                 thought
                 
                   —
                   pulchra
                   Laverna
                   Da
                   mihi
                   fallere
                   ,
                   da
                   justum
                   ,
                   sanctumque
                   videri
                   .
                
                 might
                 say
              
               
                 
                   —
                   Fair
                   Hag
                   or
                   Saint
                
                 
                   Let
                   me
                   deceive
                   the
                   World
                   with
                   Romish
                   paint
                   ,
                
                 
                   For
                   thy
                   sake
                   ,
                   holy
                   Cause
                   ,
                   permit
                   me
                   feign
                   ,
                
                 
                   Seem
                   holy
                   ,
                   just
                   ,
                   and
                   
                     Godliness
                     my
                     Gain
                  
                   .
                
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 This
                 interpretation
                 will
                 be
                 as
                 well
                 lik'd
                 as
                 Captain
                 
                 Wilkinson's
                 Information
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 Or
                 as
                 the
                 Bonfires
                 t'other
                 night
                 thorough
                 out
                 London
                 ,
                 I
                 wonder
                 the
                 Observator
                 and
                 Heraclitus
                 did
                 not
                 piss
                 them
                 out
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 They
                 ran
                 away
                 at
                 the
                 Shout
                 of
                 the
                 People
                 upon
                 the
                 pronouncing
                 Ignoramus
                 :
                 that
                 is
                 a
                 terrible
                 word
                 ,
                 and
                 sounds
                 like
                 Thunder
                 in
                 their
                 ears
                 .
                 But
                 let
                 'em
                 go
                 ,
                 betwixt
                 you
                 and
                 me
                 ,
                 the
                 Little
                 great
                 Lord
                 I
                 am
                 affraid
                 is
                 no
                 great
                 States-Man
                 ,
                 but
                 a
                 Fool.
                 
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 Why
                 so
                 ?
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 Because
                 he
                 did
                 so
                 openly
                 and
                 plainly
                 discover
                 his
                 Mind
                 ,
                 consult
                 and
                 conspire
                 the
                 most
                 horrid
                 Treason
                 he
                 is
                 charged
                 with
                 ,
                 and
                 was
                 indicted
                 for
                 ,
                 with
                 such
                 kind
                 of
                 Men
                 ,
                 Papists
                 ,
                 Turn-coats
                 ,
                 Profligated
                 Wretches
                 ,
                 that
                 could
                 stand
                 him
                 in
                 no
                 stead
                 ,
                 in
                 those
                 great
                 designs
                 of
                 overthrowing
                 a
                 Kingdom
                 ,
                 with
                 so
                 many
                 ,
                 so
                 openly
                 ,
                 without
                 binding
                 to
                 secrecy
                 ,
                 with
                 Oaths
                 and
                 Sacraments
                 ;
                 
                 and
                 to
                 be
                 so
                 familiar
                 and
                 intimate
                 with
                 such
                 persons
                 ,
                 below
                 his
                 Quality
                 ,
                 as
                 to
                 open
                 his
                 Bosom
                 and
                 Secrets
                 ;
                 and
                 indeed
                 ,
                 to
                 be
                 so
                 great
                 a
                 Fool
                 or
                 Mad-Man
                 ,
                 to
                 trust
                 his
                 Life
                 ,
                 his
                 Estate
                 ,
                 the
                 Honour
                 of
                 his
                 Family
                 in
                 such
                 Hands
                 .
                 He
                 has
                 clearly
                 lost
                 my
                 Opinion
                 for
                 a
                 Politician
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 This
                 was
                 not
                 considered
                 before
                 hand
                 .
                 Look
                 you
                 ,
                 these
                 Fellows
                 were
                 Doves
                 ;
                 harmless
                 Pigeons
                 ,
                 that
                 could
                 do
                 no
                 hurt
                 with
                 down-right
                 Swearing
                 ,
                 ask
                 honest
                 Heraclitus
                 else
                 ;
                 who
                 in
                 his
                 impudent
                 front
                 of
                 Numb
                 .
                 44.
                 puts
                 down
                 ,
              
               
                 
                   Dat
                   veniam
                   Corvis
                   ,
                   vexat
                   censura
                   Columbus
                   .
                
                 
                   They
                   pardon
                   the
                   Crows
                   ,
                   and
                   condemn
                   the
                   Doves
                   .
                
              
               
                 Harmless
                 Turtles
                 !
              
               
                 
                   Did
                   not
                   our
                   Laws
                   with
                   us
                   bear
                   sway
                   ,
                
                 
                   Each
                   Dog
                   would
                   tear
                   a
                   Limb
                   away
                   :
                
                 
                   Then
                   Loyalty
                   would
                   become
                   a
                   Crime
                   ,
                
                 
                   And
                   Villains
                   to
                   Preferment
                   climb
                   .
                
                 
                   Cheaters
                   would
                   turn
                   the
                   wrong
                   to
                   right
                   ,
                
                 
                   Make
                   Whigs
                   seem
                   black
                   ,
                   and
                   Papists
                   white
                   .
                
              
               
                 
                   Tell
                   me
                   ,
                   you
                   worse
                   than
                   Bedlamites
                   ,
                
                 
                   If
                   Wise
                   Men
                   did
                   not
                   bound
                   the
                   rage
                
                 
                   Of
                   some
                   mad
                   Varlets
                   of
                   this
                   Age
                   ,
                
                 
                   What
                   could
                   secure
                   our
                   Lives
                   ,
                   our
                   Laws
                   ,
                   our
                   Rights
                   ?
                
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 You
                 are
                 very
                 Poetical
                 methinks
                 .
                 But
                 Sir
                 ,
                 Treason
                 is
                 Treason
                 ,
                 let
                 me
                 tell
                 you
                 ,
                 not
                 only
                 overt
                 Acts
                 according
                 to
                 the
                 Statute
                 of
                 25th
                 .
                 of
                 
                   Ed.
                   3d.
                
                 but
                 Treasonable
                 Words
                 are
                 Treason
                 ,
                 according
                 to
                 that
                 of
                 13
                 Car.
                 2.
                 being
                 proved
                 by
                 two
                 credible
                 and
                 substantial
                 Witnesses
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 A
                 Man
                 had
                 need
                 have
                 a
                 care
                 whom
                 he
                 converses
                 with
                 ,
                 and
                 keep
                 a
                 Journal
                 of
                 his
                 words
                 ,
                 as
                 well
                 as
                 Actions
                 ;
                 but
                 I
                 think
                 it
                 would
                 do
                 well
                 ,
                 that
                 this
                 whifling
                 Sin
                 of
                 Perjury
                 were
                 made
                 death
                 by
                 the
                 Law
                 ,
                 especially
                 in
                 such
                 cases
                 ,
                 where
                 the
                 Juror
                 ,
                 by
                 a
                 false
                 Oath
                 ,
                 shall
                 attempt
                 to
                 take
                 away
                 the
                 life
                 of
                 another
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 That
                 's
                 not
                 our
                 business
                 :
                 Let
                 our
                 wise
                 Legislators
                 in
                 Parliament
                 think
                 of
                 that
                 :
                 But
                 I
                 hope
                 you
                 do
                 not
                 charge
                 any
                 of
                 the
                 King's
                 Witnesses
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 Not
                 I
                 ;
                 but
                 I
                 hope
                 a
                 
                   Grand
                   Iury
                
                 may
                 think
                 of
                 their
                 Credibility
                 ,
                 since
                 he
                 that
                 swears
                 Treason
                 against
                 another
                 ,
                 by
                 the
                 Statute
                 ,
                 ought
                 to
                 be
                 a
                 Credible
                 Witness
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 There
                 is
                 another
                 Reason
                 given
                 for
                 the
                 Iuries
                 finding
                 the
                 Bill
                 Ignoramus
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 Because
                 the
                 Indictment
                 was
                 not
                 put
                 in
                 according
                 to
                 the
                 Time
                 limited
                 in
                 the
                 Statute
                 .
                 Then
                 you
                 see
                 the
                 Gentlemen
                 had
                 more
                 reasons
                 than
                 one
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 But
                 Somebody
                 thinks
                 they
                 had
                 no
                 more
                 Reason
                 than
                 an
                 Horse
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 Don't
                 pretend
                 to
                 know
                 my
                 Thoughts
                 :
                 Sir
                 ,
                 this
                 is
                 a
                 Tory
                 trick
                 ;
                 when
                 Treason
                 is
                 spoke
                 to
                 Nobody
                 ,
                 to
                 put
                 it
                 upon
                 Somebody
                 ;
                 but
                 if
                 Any-body
                 thinks
                 ill
                 of
                 the
                 Grand
                 Juries
                 Ignoramus
                 ,
                 they
                 are
                 the
                 Papists
                 and
                 Heraclitus
                 ,
                 for
                 he
                 tells
                 you
                 plainly
                 ,
                 arraigning
                 the
                 Justice
                 and
                 Consciences
                 of
                 the
                 
                   Grand
                   Iury
                
                 ,
                 when
                 the
                 Court
                 did
                 not
                 ,
                 Numb
                 .
                 44.
                 
                 
                   That
                   their
                
                 Ignoramus
                 
                   Declaratition
                   convinced
                   not
                   ,
                   nor
                   contributed
                   any
                   thing
                   towards
                   the
                   Conviction
                   of
                   any
                   sober
                   Man
                   ,
                   from
                   the
                   suspicions
                   he
                   had
                   before
                   .
                
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 But
                 he
                 would
                 have
                 a
                 Man
                 Try'd
                 right
                 or
                 wrong
                 by
                 his
                 Peers
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S
                 ,
              
               
                 Yes
                 ,
                 and
                 have
                 his
                 Life
                 put
                 in
                 jeopardy
                 before
                 there
                 is
                 a
                 just
                 occasion
                 for
                 it
                 ▪
                 but
                 since
                 the
                 Law
                 is
                 so
                 tender
                 of
                 an
                 
                 English-mens
                 life
                 ,
                 as
                 to
                 ordain
                 two
                 Iuries
                 ,
                 first
                 to
                 pass
                 upon
                 him
                 before
                 he
                 shall
                 forfeit
                 it
                 ;
                 I
                 know
                 not
                 by
                 what
                 Authority
                 Heraclitus
                 would
                 have
                 this
                 Old
                 Law
                 broke
                 ,
                 to
                 bring
                 a
                 Man
                 upon
                 his
                 Tryal
                 for
                 his
                 Life
                 by
                 his
                 Peers
                 ,
                 and
                 not
                 to
                 permit
                 the
                 
                   Grand
                   Iury
                
                 of
                 his
                 Country
                 ,
                 (
                 made
                 up
                 usually
                 of
                 the
                 most
                 knowing
                 ,
                 honest
                 and
                 able
                 Men
                 of
                 the
                 Country
                 )
                 to
                 judg
                 whether
                 there
                 is
                 any
                 such
                 occasion
                 ,
                 of
                 putting
                 a
                 Mans
                 Life
                 in
                 jeopardy
                 ;
                 in
                 which
                 case
                 they
                 are
                 certainly
                 Judges
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 Ay
                 ,
                 but
                 if
                 a
                 certain
                 number
                 of
                 Men
                 be
                 disposed
                 or
                 ordained
                 ,
                 to
                 understand
                 a
                 matter
                 one
                 way
                 ,
                 be
                 of
                 this
                 Opinion
                 ;
                 and
                 a
                 greater
                 number
                 of
                 Men
                 ,
                 as
                 honest
                 and
                 considerable
                 ,
                 &
                 c.
                 determine
                 another
                 way
                 ,
                 the
                 minds
                 of
                 Men
                 will
                 remain
                 
                   in
                   oequilibrio
                
                 ,
                 till
                 true
                 Arguments
                 put
                 a
                 force
                 upon
                 them
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 Mayn't
                 I
                 here
                 play
                 the
                 Observator
                 ,
                 and
                 pick
                 out
                 the
                 sence
                 of
                 these
                 words
                 ?
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 You
                 may
                 save
                 your self
                 the
                 labour
                 ,
                 for
                 Heraclitus
                 tells
                 you
                 himself
                 the
                 meaning
                 ,
                 by
                 his
                 Story
                 of
                 his
                 Sheep
                 proved
                 Hogs
                 :
                 though
                 I
                 think
                 the
                 Parallel
                 does
                 not
                 hold
                 ▪
                 for
                 in
                 this
                 case
                 ,
                 the
                 Irish
                 drovers
                 Hogs
                 are
                 proved
                 Sheep
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 He
                 that
                 villifies
                 Parliaments
                 ,
                 may
                 well
                 be
                 permitted
                 to
                 villifie
                 
                   Grand
                   Iuries
                
                 ;
                 and
                 to
                 make
                 a
                 company
                 of
                 Loyal
                 Gentlemen
                 Ramuses
                 ,
                 to
                 give
                 false
                 Judgment
                 ,
                 contrary
                 to
                 their
                 knowledge
                 ,
                 to
                 makes
                 
                   Hogs
                   Sheep
                
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 'T
                 is
                 but
                 a
                 Jest
                 Sir
                 ,
                 and
                 a
                 Story
                 ,
                 take
                 no
                 notice
                 of
                 it
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S
                 ,
              
               
                 Yet
                 ,
                 cut
                 my
                 Throat
                 and
                 defame
                 me
                 ,
                 with
                 a
                 Jest
                 and
                 a
                 Story
                 ,
                 or
                 a
                 Lye
                 ,
                 or
                 any
                 thing
                 such
                 as
                 Thompson
                 in
                 Numb
                 .
                 82.
                 of
                 his
                 
                   Loyal
                   Intelligence
                
                 ,
                 who
                 says
                 ,
                 Ignoramus
                 was
                 no
                 sooner
                 named
                 ,
                 but
                 a
                 general
                 Hiss
                 went
                 throughout
                 the
                 Court.
                 
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 O
                 Sir
                 ,
                 he
                 may
                 say
                 any
                 thing
                 ,
                 he
                 may
                 —
                 —
                 
                   Cum
                   Privilegio
                
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 With
                 the
                 same
                 Authority
                 ,
                 as
                 the
                 Observator
                 rails
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 He
                 hath
                 been
                 very
                 well
                 employed
                 in
                 making
                 comparisons
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 Between
                 the
                 Turks
                 and
                 the
                 Whigs
                 Cruelties
                 ;
                 that
                 is
                 his
                 way
                 ,
                 speak
                 either
                 against
                 his
                 beloved
                 Pope
                 or
                 Turk
                 ,
                 and
                 he
                 presently
                 flaps
                 you
                 i'
                 th
                 ▪
                 mouth
                 with
                 a
                 Whig
                 ;
                 he
                 has
                 him
                 for
                 all
                 Comparisons
                 ,
                 and
                 then
                 he
                 still
                 makes
                 him
                 the
                 worst
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 'T
                 is
                 his
                 charity
                 for
                 Protestants
                 ,
                 that
                 they
                 may
                 not
                 be
                 overlay'd
                 by
                 the
                 Plot
                 ▪
                 teeming
                 Monstrous
                 
                   Presbyterian
                   Discipline
                
                 ,
                 that
                 has
                 20000
                 Plots
                 in
                 its
                 Belly
                 ,
                 and
                 continually
                 spawning
                 them
                 from
                 Generation
                 to
                 Generation
                 ,
                 Numb
                 .
                 72.
                 
                 
                   Plots
                   against
                   God
                   ,
                   the
                   King
                   ,
                   the
                   Liberties
                   of
                   the
                   People
                   ,
                   and
                   the
                   freedom
                   of
                   Humane
                   Society
                   and
                   of
                   Mankind
                   .
                
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 Great
                 Charges
                 :
                 but
                 now
                 ,
                 will
                 not
                 he
                 cry
                 out
                 ,
                 if
                 his
                 black
                 Bill
                 be
                 found
                 Ignoramus
                 ,
                 and
                 that
                 he
                 has
                 spite
                 ,
                 malice
                 ,
                 revenge
                 ,
                 interest
                 ,
                 and
                 no
                 Truth
                 or
                 Justice
                 in
                 his
                 Indictment
                 against
                 the
                 Whigs
                 or
                 
                   Protestants
                   ▪
                
                 (
                 I
                 know
                 not
                 how
                 to
                 distinguish
                 'em
                 )
                 or
                 ,
                 to
                 comprehend
                 them
                 in
                 his
                 own
                 words
                 ,
                 Dissenters
                 ;
                 These
                 are
                 the
                 Persons
                 he
                 spends
                 half
                 a
                 side
                 against
                 ,
                 to
                 prove
                 them
                 Plotters
                 ,
                 Traytors
                 ,
                 Rebels
                 and
                 Conspirators
                 ,
                 with
                 as
                 little
                 Reason
                 as
                 Honesty
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 You
                 must
                 not
                 question
                 the
                 Oracle
                 ,
                 he
                 is
                 a
                 kind
                 of
                 a
                 Dictator
                 ,
                 and
                 can
                 direct
                 the
                 State
                 to
                 destroy
                 Private
                 Meetings
                 ,
                 and
                 tells
                 them
                 ,
                 't
                 is
                 necessary
                 ,
                 and
                 that
                 the
                 
                   Government
                   cannot
                   be
                   safe
                   without
                   it
                   .
                
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 I
                 wonder
                 it
                 has
                 then
                 bin
                 thus
                 long
                 safe
                 and
                 quiet
                 .
                 without
                 trouble
                 or
                 interruption
                 ,
                 till
                 the
                 Popish
                 Plotters
                 began
                 to
                 disturb
                 it
                 ;
                 and
                 till
                 the
                 barking
                 Towzers
                 and
                 the
                 chattering
                 Heraclitus's
                 made
                 such
                 a
                 confused
                 din
                 ,
                 that
                 no
                 body
                 could
                 be
                 heard
                 but
                 themselves
                 ;
                 big
                 with
                 Exclamations
                 against
                 such
                 as
                 speak
                 or
                 act
                 against
                 Popery
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 Well
                 Sir
                 ,
                 have
                 a
                 care
                 I
                 advise
                 you
                 ,
                 how
                 you
                 speak
                 against
                 the
                 Observator
                 ,
                 lest
                 he
                 bring
                 you
                 to
                 have
                 your
                 nose
                 rub'd
                 at
                 his
                 
                   Cats
                   Inquisition
                   Office
                
                 :
                 he
                 'll
                 prove
                 as
                 good
                 a
                 Whipper
                 as
                 ever
                 Bonner
                 was
                 :
                 he
                 is
                 to
                 be
                 Beadle-general
                 to
                 claw
                 off
                 the
                 
                   Heretick
                   Protestants
                
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 That
                 's
                 putting
                 the
                 Laws
                 in
                 execution
                 ,
                 he
                 me●ns
                 the
                 bloudy
                 ones
                 of
                 Q.
                 Mary
                 ,
                 but
                 we
                 have
                 a
                 better
                 Governour
                 &
                 one
                 who
                 has
                 so
                 much
                 Piety
                 as
                 not
                 to
                 be
                 mov'd
                 by
                 such
                 Instigators
                 ,
                 and
                 that
                 understands
                 not
                 the
                 necessity
                 of
                 any
                 such
                 rigor
                 ,
                 as
                 he
                 would
                 infer
                 ▪
                 having
                 by
                 experience
                 found
                 the
                 contrary
                 .
                 Let
                 Offenders
                 suffer
                 ,
                 but
                 let
                 not
                 the
                 Innocent
                 be
                 oppressed
                 for
                 fear
                 they
                 should
                 offend
                 ,
              
               
                 
                   If
                   some
                   could
                   have
                   their
                   Wills
                   ,
                   all
                   Men
                   should
                   fall
                   ,
                
                 
                   Down
                   ,
                   and
                   turn
                   Worshippers
                   of
                   Lordly
                   -
                   Baal
                   :
                
                 
                   But
                   God
                   ,
                   who
                   sees
                   into
                   the
                   Secret
                   Parts
                   ,
                
                 
                   Examines
                   and
                   confounds
                   unrighteous
                   Arts.
                   
                
              
            
          
        
         
           
             
               London
               ,
               Printed
               for
               
                 El.
                 Smith
              
               ,
               1681.
               
            
          
        
      
       
         
           
             
             
               Numb
               .
               4.
               
               A
               New
               DIALOGUE
               BETWEEN
               Somebody
               &
               Nobody
               .
               OR
               THE
               
                 Observator
                 and
                 Heraclitus
              
               OBSERVED
               .
            
             
               
                 Monday
                 ,
                 
                   December
                   12.
                   1681.
                   
                
              
            
             
               
                 Some-body
                 .
              
               
                 WELL
                 How
                 go
                 squares
                 ?
              
            
             
               
                 No-body
                 .
              
               
                 Things
                 do
                 not
                 go
                 square
                 ,
                 the
                 Tories
                 are
                 all
                 in
                 a
                 rage
                 .
                 Towzer
                 barks
                 ,
                 the
                 Monkey
                 chatters
                 ,
                 and
                 the
                 Animals
                 are
                 running
                 mad
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 Let
                 them
                 be
                 worm'd
                 ,
                 is
                 it
                 such
                 hot
                 weather
                 at
                 Christmass
                 ?
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 The
                 Bonfires
                 t'other
                 day
                 so
                 heated
                 their
                 Brains
                 ,
                 they
                 never
                 were
                 cold
                 since
                 ;
                 and
                 besides
                 ,
                 such
                 News
                 comes
                 out
                 of
                 the
                 Country
                 ,
                 that
                 it
                 is
                 as
                 bad
                 to
                 'em
                 as
                 Addresses
                 or
                 Petitions
                 for
                 a
                 Parliament
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 O
                 that
                 is
                 for
                 the
                 rejoycing
                 for
                 Tonys
                 release
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 I
                 wonder
                 so
                 many
                 should
                 be
                 concern'd
                 for
                 that
                 little
                 Man.
                 
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 'T
                 is
                 not
                 for
                 the
                 Man
                 ,
                 but
                 the
                 Protestant
                 Cause
                 ,
                 which
                 was
                 struck
                 at
                 in
                 him
                 ,
                 makes
                 all
                 Loyal
                 Hearts
                 rejoyce
                 ,
                 that
                 he
                 is
                 found
                 innocent
                 ▪
                 for
                 Thousands
                 that
                 wis●
                 him
                 well
                 ,
                 and
                 that
                 Innocency
                 might
                 never
                 suffer
                 under
                 contrivances
                 ,
                 nor
                 the
                 Protestant
                 Cause
                 undermined
                 by
                 the
                 Iesuitical
                 Shams
                 ,
                 would
                 be
                 as
                 ready
                 to
                 accuse
                 him
                 ,
                 did
                 they
                 believe
                 him
                 a
                 Traytor
                 or
                 a
                 Rebel
                 ,
                 or
                 knew
                 that
                 he
                 intended
                 any
                 harm
                 to
                 His
                 Majesty
                 or
                 his
                 Government
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 Heraclitus
                 ,
                 the
                 Observator
                 ,
                 and
                 a
                 thousand
                 more
                 ,
                 are
                 not
                 of
                 your
                 mind
                 Sir.
                 
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 'T
                 is
                 their
                 business
                 to
                 make
                 the
                 World
                 believe
                 otherwise
                 .
                 
                   He
                   must
                   rise
                   early
                   that
                   has
                   every
                   bodys
                   good
                   word
                   .
                
                 And
                 I
                 think
                 there
                 is
                 a
                 Wo
                 to
                 him
                 ,
                 
                   whom
                   every
                   body
                   speaks
                   well
                   of
                   .
                
                 I
                 should
                 not
                 much
                 care
                 for
                 the
                 good
                 word
                 of
                 a
                 Tory
                 ,
                 for
                 he
                 will
                 make
                 a
                 Saint
                 of
                 
                   Coleman
                   ▪
                
                 and
                 a
                 Devil
                 of
                 any
                 ,
                 that
                 ,
                 for
                 the
                 good
                 of
                 his
                 Country
                 ,
                 opposes
                 his
                 wicked
                 Devices
                 .
                 'T
                 is
                 the
                 fate
                 of
                 a
                 Wise
                 Man
                 to
                 be
                 suspected
                 ,
                 and
                 let
                 him
                 be
                 never
                 so
                 honest
                 ,
                 he
                 may
                 be
                 traduced
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 Prethe
                 leave
                 thy
                 sentences
                 ,
                 here
                 's
                 stuff
                 indeed
                 ,
                 fit
                 for
                 a
                 Pulpit
                 .
                 Suspected
                 !
                 won't
                 you
                 believe
                 the
                 New
                 Song
                 of
                 Ignoramus
                 ,
                 that
                 makes
                 your
                 Wise
                 Man
                 a
                 greater
                 Traytor
                 than
                 Coleman
                 ?
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 I
                 did
                 not
                 hear
                 it
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 
                   At
                   the
                   
                     Old
                     Bayly
                  
                   ,
                
                 
                   Where
                   Rogues
                   flock
                   dayly
                   ,
                
                 
                   A
                   greater
                   Traytor
                   far
                   than
                   
                     Coleman
                     ,
                     White
                  
                   ,
                   or
                   Staley
                   ,
                
                 
                   Was
                   late
                   Indicted
                   ,
                
                 
                   Witnesses
                   Cited
                   ,
                
                 
                   But
                   Tony
                   was
                   set
                   free
                   ,
                   and
                   so
                   the
                   King
                   was
                   righted
                   ▪
                
                 
                   But
                   wot
                   you
                   what
                   Sir
                   ,
                
                 
                   They
                   found
                   it
                   not
                   Sir
                   ,
                
                 
                   'T
                   was
                   every
                   Jurors
                   case
                   ,
                   and
                   there
                   lay
                   all
                   the
                   Plot
                   Sir
                   ,
                
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 Are
                 not
                 these
                 a
                 company
                 of
                 Villains
                 ,
                 that
                 dare
                 thus
                 to
                 asperse
                 so
                 many
                 Men
                 of
                 known
                 Loyalty
                 ?
                 The
                 time
                 may
                 come
                 the
                 E.
                 of
                 S.
                 may
                 have
                 his
                 Action
                 of
                 
                   Scandalum
                   Magnatum
                
                 ,
                 as
                 well
                 as
                 the
                 E.
                 of
                 D.
                 but
                 what
                 say
                 our
                 Pamphleteers
                 ?
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 Heraclitus
                 bites
                 his
                 Nails
                 and
                 his
                 fingers
                 ends
                 for
                 Madness
                 :
                 He
                 is
                 hardly
                 yet
                 out
                 of
                 his
                 Fit
                 ,
                 for
                 he
                 gnaws
                 ▪
                 the
                 Latine
                 of
                 his
                 own
                 Indictment
                 most
                 furiously
                 ,
                 and
                 crys
                 ,
                 if
                 the
                 Iu●y
                 be
                 Loyal
                 and
                 Honest
                 ,
                 they
                 must
                 find
                 him
                 not
                 guilty
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 He
                 has
                 opened
                 his
                 Case
                 most
                 learnedly
                 ,
                 and
                 made
                 very
                 Oafes
                 of
                 the
                 Indicters
                 :
                 But
                 has
                 he
                 heard
                 yet
                 of
                 the
                 
                   Protestant
                   Observator
                
                 ,
                 how
                 'scapes
                 he
                 with
                 him
                 ?
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 O
                 Sir
                 ,
                 he
                 took
                 him
                 to
                 be
                 Comus
                 and
                 Momus
                 revived
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 Hard
                 words
                 :
                 what
                 was
                 that
                 Comus
                 and
                 Momus
                 ?
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 It
                 was
                 a
                 Iest
                 and
                 Earnest
                 ,
                 that
                 for
                 some
                 time
                 brish'd
                 the
                 Cobwebs
                 from
                 his
                 back
                 with
                 a
                 Crabstick
                 .
                 But
                 he
                 is
                 cruel
                 mad
                 at
                 little
                 Harry
                 and
                 his
                 
                   Popish
                   Latine
                
                 ,
                 that
                 troubles
                 him
                 too
                 ▪
                 that
                 he
                 is
                 not
                 able
                 to
                 make
                 Converts
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 He
                 lacks
                 some
                 of
                 his
                 Popish
                 Miracles
                 ,
                 that
                 can
                 convert
                 all
                 Protestants
                 to
                 Hereticks
                 ,
                 Traytors
                 and
                 Rebels
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 They
                 have
                 ill
                 luck
                 ,
                 their
                 new
                 Powder-Plot
                 against
                 the
                 Prince
                 of
                 Orange
                 ,
                 or
                 the
                 Earl
                 of
                 St.
                 Paul
                 ,
                 or
                 both
                 ,
                 is
                 discovered
                 :
                 and
                 now
                 are
                 they
                 angry
                 with
                 God
                 Almighty
                 for
                 preventing
                 it
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 God
                 bless
                 His
                 Majesty
                 from
                 this
                 sort
                 of
                 People
                 ,
                 who
                 on
                 every
                 hand
                 thus
                 wickedly
                 endeavour
                 the
                 overthrow
                 of
                 all
                 honest
                 Protestants
                 .
                 What
                 is
                 that
                 Earl
                 of
                 St.
                 Paul
                 ?
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 He
                 is
                 an
                 Hugonite
                 ,
                 for
                 which
                 he
                 was
                 forceed
                 some
                 time
                 since
                 ,
                 to
                 leave
                 his
                 Native
                 Country
                 ,
                 his
                 Life
                 being
                 obnoxious
                 to
                 the
                 
                   French
                   Tories
                
                 ,
                 where
                 he
                 had
                 no
                 hope
                 of
                 benefit
                 of
                 a
                 
                   Grand
                   Iury.
                
                 
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 O
                 happy
                 England
                 !
                 where
                 great
                 Men
                 are
                 not
                 suffered
                 to
                 be
                 Tyrants
                 ,
                 nor
                 the
                 poor
                 oppressed
                 ;
                 where
                 the
                 Laws
                 are
                 open
                 ,
                 the
                 King
                 just
                 ,
                 and
                 Iurors
                 not
                 over-awed
                 by
                 Greatness
                 .
                 
                 But
                 what
                 says
                 the
                 Tories
                 Printer
                 ?
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 I
                 hear
                 he
                 is
                 preferred
                 to
                 attend
                 on
                 the
                 Dutchess
                 of
                 P.
                 into
                 France
                 .
                 But
                 did
                 you
                 see
                 
                 Le'Strange's
                 Godly
                 Sayings
                 ?
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 No
                 ;
                 and
                 yet
                 I
                 see
                 most
                 things
                 that
                 come
                 out
                 ,
                 and
                 they
                 are
                 so
                 many
                 I
                 am
                 fain
                 to
                 keep
                 a
                 Catalogue
                 of
                 them
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 They
                 are
                 Printed
                 in
                 the
                 76
                 Observator
                 ,
                 who
                 justifies
                 him
                 ,
                 and
                 by
                 these
                 notable
                 Sayings
                 of
                 his
                 ,
                 proves
                 his
                 quarrel
                 ,
                 is
                 not
                 
                   to
                   the
                   dissent
                
                 ,
                 but
                 
                   to
                   the
                   Sedition
                
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 Some-body
                 .
              
               
                 O
                 wonderful
                 !
                 I
                 thought
                 he
                 had
                 been
                 endeavouring
                 by
                 some
                 thousands
                 of
                 railing
                 Paragraphs
                 ,
                 to
                 be
                 pick'd
                 up
                 through
                 his
                 Writings
                 ,
                 to
                 prove
                 the
                 dissent
                 ,
                 a
                 Sedition
                 :
                 And
                 I
                 am
                 sure
                 ,
                 more
                 than
                 an
                 hundred
                 times
                 ,
                 he
                 calls
                 the
                 Dissenters
                 not
                 only
                 Seditious
                 ,
                 but
                 Villains
                 ,
                 Traytors
                 and
                 Plotters
                 .
                 What
                 are
                 Presbyterians
                 but
                 Dissenters
                 ,
                 and
                 Presbytery
                 but
                 a
                 Dissent
                 from
                 the
                 Church
                 of
                 England
                 in
                 some
                 particulars
                 of
                 Church
                 Government
                 ?
                 and
                 yet
                 this
                 Presbytery
                 he
                 tells
                 you
                 ,
                 Numb
                 .
                 72.
                 
                 
                   Is
                   a
                   Monster
                   with
                
                 20000
                 
                   Plots
                   in
                   the
                   Belly
                   of
                   it
                   ,
                   spawning
                   them
                   from
                   Generation
                   to
                   Generation
                   :
                   Plots
                   against
                   the
                   King
                   ,
                   People
                   and
                   all
                   Mankind
                
                 ;
                 and
                 yet
                 he
                 quarrels
                 not
                 with
                 the
                 dissent
                 ,
                 Good-Man
                 !
                 but
                 when
                 he
                 makes
                 the
                 Dissent
                 ,
                 to
                 be
                 all
                 one
                 with
                 the
                 Sedition
                 ,
                 I
                 cannot
                 see
                 into
                 his
                 distinction
                 :
                 But
                 what
                 are
                 his
                 Sayings
                 in
                 their
                 behalf
                 ?
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 He
                 says
                 ,
                 Numb
                 .
                 69.
                 
                 
                   That
                   Dr.
                
                 Gouge
                 (
                 though
                 a
                 Dissenter
                 )
                 
                   was
                   acommon
                   Blessing
                   ,
                   and
                   did
                   good
                   to
                   all
                   Men
                   ,
                   to
                   the
                   atmost
                   of
                   his
                   power
                   :
                
                 And
                 Num.
                 74.
                 
                 
                   That
                   at
                   least
                
                 9
                 
                   parts
                   in
                
                 10
                 ,
                 
                   throughout
                   the
                   whole
                   Party
                   of
                   Dissenters
                   ;
                   are
                   People
                   of
                   good
                   Intentions
                   ,
                   and
                   would
                   never
                   joyn
                   in
                   a
                   Rebtllion
                   .
                
                 And
                 now
                 you
                 have
                 the
                 Iliades
                 in
                 a
                 Nut-shell
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 Are
                 these
                 all
                 a
                 little
                 ,
                 very
                 little
                 Book
                 of
                 Good
                 and
                 Godly
                 Sayings
                 of
                 Mr.
                 
                 Le'Strange's
                 ;
                 and
                 these
                 he
                 thinks
                 shall
                 attone
                 ,
                 for
                 his
                 Voluminous
                 ,
                 Railing
                 Rhapsodies
                 against
                 Dissenters
                 .
                 But
                 I
                 cannot
                 but
                 admire
                 at
                 this
                 second
                 part
                 of
                 his
                 Sayings
                 ,
                 That
                 9
                 
                   parts
                   of
                
                 10
                 
                   thorough
                   out
                   the
                   whole
                   Party
                   of
                   Dissenters
                   ,
                   are
                   People
                   of
                   good
                   Intentions
                   ,
                   and
                   would
                   never
                   joyn
                   in
                   a
                   Rebellion
                   .
                
                 Tho
                 this
                 be
                 a
                 very
                 great
                 truth
                 ,
                 yet
                 methinks
                 ,
                 't
                 is
                 very
                 strange
                 out
                 of
                 his
                 black
                 Mouth
                 .
                 But
                 does
                 not
                 this
                 argue
                 the
                 Man
                 of
                 a
                 great
                 deal
                 of
                 Impudence
                 and
                 Wickedness
                 ,
                 to
                 condemn
                 all
                 Dissenters
                 from
                 the
                 Church
                 of
                 England
                 for
                 Rebels
                 ,
                 Factious
                 and
                 Seditious
                 Bou●efues
                 ,
                 when
                 (
                 you
                 see
                 )
                 he
                 knows
                 in
                 his
                 Conscience
                 ,
                 9
                 
                   parts
                   of
                
                 10
                 
                   are
                   otherwise
                
                 ?
                 God
                 would
                 have
                 spared
                 Sodom
                 could
                 he
                 have
                 found
                 but
                 Ten
                 Righteous
                 Persons
                 in
                 it
                 ,
                 but
                 Le'Strange
                 will
                 not
                 spare
                 the
                 Dissenters
                 ,
                 but
                 would
                 destroy
                 them
                 ,
                 as
                 he
                 has
                 endeavoured
                 to
                 do
                 their
                 Reputation
                 ,
                 though
                 he
                 believes
                 but
                 a
                 Tenth
                 part
                 of
                 them
                 Wicked
                 or
                 Rebellious
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 The
                 Wind
                 is
                 veering
                 about
                 ;
                 't
                 is
                 time
                 to
                 record
                 his
                 good
                 Sayings
                 .
                 Towzer
                 is
                 converted
                 into
                 a
                 Spaniel
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 No
                 ,
                 you
                 mistake
                 the
                 Man
                 ,
                 he
                 is
                 the
                 same
                 still
                 :
                 he
                 can
                 as
                 soon
                 live
                 without
                 eating
                 ,
                 as
                 without
                 railing
                 ;
                 for
                 in
                 Numb
                 .
                 77.
                 the
                 
                   Strange
                   Observator
                
                 ,
                 falls
                 to
                 his
                 Old
                 Vomit
                 ,
                 and
                 under
                 the
                 Notion
                 of
                 enumerating
                 all
                 the
                 flagitious
                 Crimes
                 of
                 a
                 company
                 of
                 Traytors
                 and
                 Villains
                 ,
                 disowned
                 by
                 all
                 but
                 themselves
                 ,
                 brands
                 the
                 9
                 parts
                 of
                 the
                 10
                 honest
                 Dissenters
                 ,
                 with
                 their
                 Mark
                 ;
                 and
                 what
                 ever
                 any
                 one
                 says
                 in
                 the
                 justification
                 of
                 the
                 honest
                 Dissonters
                 ,
                 he
                 presently
                 crys
                 out
                 ,
                 
                   So
                   said
                   ,
                   so
                   did
                   ,
                   their
                   Predecessors
                   with
                   His
                   Late
                   Majesty
                   .
                
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 He
                 has
                 a
                 good
                 Memory
                 :
                 but
                 I
                 thought
                 the
                 Act
                 of
                 Oblivion
                 ,
                 had
                 been
                 a
                 Statute
                 ,
                 that
                 was
                 not
                 thus
                 to
                 be
                 broken
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 What
                 cares
                 a
                 Tory
                 for
                 Laws
                 or
                 Statutes
                 ,
                 so
                 he
                 may
                 gain
                 his
                 Point
                 ,
                 that
                 is
                 ,
                 making
                 
                   Protestant
                   Dissenters
                
                 odious
                 :
                 He
                 forgets
                 His
                 Royal
                 Majesties
                 most
                 Gracious
                 Declaration
                 from
                 Breda
                 (
                 which
                 His
                 Majesty
                 hath
                 made
                 good
                 ,
                 and
                 Confirmed
                 by
                 Act
                 of
                 Parliament
                 )
                 in
                 which
                 he
                 expresly
                 says
                 ;
                 
                   Let
                   all
                   Our
                   Subjects
                   ,
                   how
                   faulty
                   soever
                   ,
                   rely
                   upon
                   the
                   Word
                   of
                   a
                   King
                   ,
                   solemnly
                   given
                   by
                   this
                   present
                   Declaration
                   ,
                   that
                   no
                   Crime
                   whatsoever
                   ,
                   Committed
                   against
                   Us
                   ,
                   or
                   Our
                   Royal
                   Father
                   ,
                   before
                   the
                   Publication
                   of
                   this
                   ,
                   shall
                   ever
                   rise
                   in
                   Iudgment
                   ,
                   or
                   be
                   brought
                   in
                   question
                   against
                   any
                   of
                   them
                   ,
                   to
                   the
                   least
                   indamagement
                   of
                   them
                   ,
                   either
                   in
                   their
                   Lives
                   ,
                   Liberties
                   or
                   Estates
                   ,
                   or
                   ,
                   as
                   far
                   forth
                   as
                   lyes
                   in
                   our
                   power
                   ,
                   so
                   much
                   as
                   to
                   the
                   prejudice
                   of
                   their
                   Reputations
                   ,
                   or
                   Mark
                   of
                   Distinction
                   from
                   the
                   rest
                   of
                   Our
                   best
                   Subjects
                   :
                   We
                   Desiring
                   and
                   Ordaining
                   ,
                   That
                   henceforth
                   all
                   No●es
                   of
                   Discord
                   ,
                   Separation
                   and
                   Difference
                   of
                   Parties
                   ,
                   be
                   utterly
                   abolished
                   among
                   all
                   Our
                   Subjects
                   ,
                
                 &c.
                 
                 And
                 a
                 little
                 after
                 he
                 says
                 —
                 
                   We
                   do
                   declare
                   a
                   Liberty
                   to
                   tender
                   Consciences
                   ,
                   and
                   that
                   no
                   Man
                   shall
                   be
                   Disquieted
                   or
                   called
                   in
                   question
                   for
                   Difference
                   of
                   Opinion
                   in
                   Matters
                   of
                   Religion
                   ,
                   which
                   do
                   not
                   disturb
                   the
                   Peace
                   of
                   the
                   Kingdom
                   .
                
                 Upon
                 which
                 I
                 shall
                 only
                 make
                 one
                 or
                 two
                 Queries
                 .
              
               
                 
                   
                     I.
                     Whether
                     the
                     Observator
                     ,
                     in
                     making
                     distinctions
                     ,
                     and
                     in
                     his
                     Dayly
                     or
                     Weekly
                     abusing
                     the
                     
                       Dissenting
                       Protestants
                    
                     ,
                     and
                     calling
                     them
                     by
                     so
                     many
                     evil
                     names
                     ,
                     and
                     especially
                     by
                     rakeing
                     up
                     all
                     the
                     most
                     horrid
                     Crimes
                     of
                     a
                     Select
                     Party
                     ,
                     and
                     throwing
                     them
                     upon
                     the
                     Presbyterians
                     ,
                     and
                     the
                     whole
                     body
                     of
                     Dissenters
                     ,
                     who
                     live
                     peaceably
                     ,
                     and
                     under
                     the
                     Protection
                     of
                     the
                     King's
                     Laws
                     ,
                     be
                     not
                     an
                     acting
                     quite
                     contrary
                     to
                     the
                     mind
                     of
                     His
                     Majesty
                     in
                     this
                     Declaration
                     ,
                     and
                     to
                     the
                     great
                     disturbance
                     of
                     His
                     Majesties
                     Subjects
                     ?
                  
                   
                     II.
                     Whether
                     the
                     Observator
                     does
                     not
                     act
                     against
                     his
                     own
                     Conscience
                     ,
                     in
                     endeavouring
                     to
                     make
                     the
                     whole
                     body
                     of
                     Dissenters
                     to
                     seem
                     Factious
                     and
                     Rebellious
                     ,
                     and
                     to
                     render
                     them
                     Odious
                     and
                     Formidable
                     to
                     His
                     Majesty
                     ,
                     and
                     to
                     the
                     rest
                     of
                     His
                     Majesties
                     Leige
                     Subjects
                     ,
                     when
                     he
                     has
                     declared
                     that
                     Nine
                     Parts
                     of
                     Ten
                     of
                     them
                     ,
                     he
                     believes
                     to
                     be
                     honest
                     and
                     peaceable
                     ?
                  
                   
                     III.
                     Whether
                     after
                     this
                     ,
                     any
                     ought
                     to
                     believe
                     ,
                     that
                     this
                     Observator
                     writes
                     for
                     the
                     Honour
                     of
                     his
                     King
                     ,
                     or
                     in
                     the
                     behalf
                     of
                     the
                     Church
                     ,
                     or
                     that
                     rather
                     ,
                     notwithstanding
                     his
                     Protestations
                     to
                     the
                     contrary
                     ,
                     we
                     ought
                     not
                     to
                     think
                     him
                     the
                     hireling
                     of
                     the
                     Popish
                     Faction
                     in
                     Masquerade
                     ?
                  
                
              
            
          
        
         
           
             
               London
               ,
               Printed
               for
               
                 El.
                 Smith
              
               ,
               1681.
               
            
          
        
      
       
         
           
             
             
               Numb
               .
               5.
               
               A
               New
               DIALOGUE
               BETWEEN
               Somebody
               &
               Nobody
               .
               OR
               THE
               
                 Observator
                 and
                 Heraclitus
              
               OBSERVED
               .
            
             
               
                 Monday
                 ,
                 
                   December
                   19.
                   1681.
                   
                
              
            
             
               
                 No-body
                 .
              
               
                 STand
                 off
                 ;
                 keep
                 your
                 distance
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 Some-body
                 .
              
               
                 What
                 's
                 the
                 matter
                 now
                 ?
                 are
                 you
                 afraid
                 of
                 
                 Heraclitus's
                 Pocket
                 Flailes
                 ?
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 Ay
                 marry
                 am
                 I
                 :
                 for
                 according
                 to
                 his
                 character
                 ;
                 a
                 
                   True
                   Protestant
                   in
                   the
                   Modern
                   sence
                   ,
                
                 or
                 weak
                 disputants
                 ,
                 furnish
                 themselves
                 with
                 those
                 knock-down
                 Arguments
                 ,
                 that
                 none
                 can
                 withstand
                 them
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 I
                 see
                 you
                 are
                 still
                 troubled
                 with
                 the
                 Proceedings
                 of
                 the
                 
                   Old
                   Baily
                
                 :
                 will
                 you
                 never
                 forget
                 them
                 ?
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 Forget
                 them
                 !
                 no
                 not
                 so
                 soon
                 :
                 that
                 will
                 eternally
                 vex
                 the
                 Torys
                 ;
                 you
                 know
                 they
                 are
                 men
                 of
                 Memory
                 ,
                 they
                 will
                 remember
                 things
                 long
                 before
                 they
                 had
                 a
                 being
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 They
                 are
                 full
                 of
                 Revenge
                 and
                 Malice
                 too
                 ,
                 if
                 like
                 Heraclitus
                 ;
                 who
                 tells
                 you
                 Numb
                 .
                 46.
                 
                 
                   That
                   those
                   Hat
                   Wavers
                   in
                   the
                
                 Old
                 Baily
                 
                   don't
                   deserve
                   to
                   wear
                   their
                   Heads
                   .
                
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 'T
                 is
                 well
                 he
                 is
                 not
                 a
                 Law-Maker
                 ,
                 for
                 then
                 you
                 and
                 a
                 great
                 many
                 more
                 had
                 been
                 hang'd
                 before
                 now
                 :
                 There
                 be
                 Tory
                 Necklaces
                 ,
                 which
                 are
                 more
                 fatal
                 than
                 Protestant
                 Flailes
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 Yes
                 they
                 have
                 Irish
                 Oaths
                 too
                 would
                 decently
                 do
                 the
                 Jobb
                 ,
                 if
                 Heraclitus
                 or
                 the
                 worshipful
                 Observator
                 were
                 of
                 the
                 Iury.
                 
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 They
                 are
                 two
                 Weekly
                 Enemies
                 ;
                 will
                 you
                 never
                 leave
                 pelting
                 at
                 them
                 ?
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 Not
                 till
                 they
                 leave
                 lying
                 and
                 sland'ring
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 And
                 that
                 I
                 'll
                 assure
                 you
                 they
                 cannot
                 do
                 ,
                 till
                 they
                 leave
                 scribling
                 .
                 But
                 they
                 are
                 Hellishly
                 angry
                 with
                 Pug
                 ,
                 for
                 averring
                 
                   That
                   Iuries
                   are
                   judges
                   of
                   a
                   Witnesses
                   credibility
                   .
                
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 Ay
                 ,
                 and
                 because
                 he
                 cannot
                 confute
                 him
                 with
                 Arguments
                 ,
                 would
                 reach
                 him
                 with
                 a
                 pocket
                 Flail
                 if
                 he
                 could
                 .
                 He
                 calls
                 laying
                 down
                 the
                 very
                 words
                 of
                 the
                 Statute
                 ,
                 a
                 wresting
                 it
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 But
                 he
                 wrests
                 it
                 ,
                 to
                 say
                 ,
                 Iurys
                 are
                 Judges
                 of
                 the
                 Witnesses
                 Credibility
                 ,
                 when
                 the
                 
                   L
                   C
                   I
                
                 tells
                 you
                 to
                 the
                 contrary
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 Would
                 Her.
                 have
                 them
                 to
                 be
                 at
                 once
                 Men
                 without
                 Sence
                 and
                 Reason
                 .
                 But
                 since
                 my
                 
                   L
                   C
                   I
                
                 says
                 to
                 the
                 Iury
                 ,
                 the
                 Witnesses
                 are
                 intended
                 
                   primâ
                   facie
                
                 credible
                 ,
                 unless
                 you
                 of
                 your
                 own
                 knowledge
                 know
                 the
                 contrary
                 ;
                 the
                 Iury
                 may
                 judg
                 then
                 by
                 their
                 
                   own
                   knowledge
                
                 of
                 the
                 Witnesses
                 Credibility
                 ;
                 and
                 then
                 no
                 doubt
                 the
                 Iury
                 may
                 very
                 well
                 justifie
                 their
                 Ignoramus
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 But
                 Mr.
                 
                   Observator
                   Numb
                
                 .
                 77.
                 proves
                 them
                 credible
                 Witnesses
                 ,
                 and
                 makes
                 it
                 an
                 Arraignment
                 of
                 a
                 Parliament
                 to
                 believe
                 the
                 contrary
                 ;
                 since
                 Mr.
                 Dugdale
                 was
                 particularly
                 recommended
                 by
                 the
                 House
                 of
                 Commons
                 ,
                 Novemb.
                 2.
                 1680.
                 to
                 His
                 Majesty
                 ,
                 to
                 take
                 him
                 into
                 His
                 Royal
                 Care
                 ,
                 &c.
                 and
                 so
                 likewise
                 Mr.
                 Turbervile
                 ,
                 and
                 Mr.
                 
                   Iohn
                   Macnamarra
                
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 What
                 an
                 Argument
                 is
                 here
                 !
                 Because
                 they
                 once
                 were
                 credible
                 Witnesses
                 ,
                 therefore
                 there
                 is
                 no
                 possibility
                 for
                 them
                 afterwards
                 to
                 become
                 otherwise
                 .
                 Because
                 the
                 
                   Weather
                   Dragon
                
                 on
                 Bow
                 sometimes
                 turned
                 his
                 Snout
                 towards
                 the
                 Tower
                 ,
                 therefore
                 he
                 can
                 never
                 after
                 that
                 turn
                 it
                 towards
                 Westminster
                 .
                 Because
                 there
                 was
                 once
                 a
                 time
                 Mr.
                 D.
                 had
                 not
                 a
                 Clap
                 ,
                 therefore
                 Mr.
                 D.
                 afterwards
                 cannot
                 get
                 a
                 Clap
                 to
                 spoil
                 his
                 Evidence
                 .
                 Because
                 once
                 upon
                 a
                 time
                 there
                 was
                 a
                 Poet
                 that
                 wrote
                 an
                 Elegy
                 on
                 the
                 Usurper
                 
                   O.
                   C.
                
                 therefore
                 the
                 same
                 Poet
                 cannot
                 prove
                 Loyal
                 ,
                 and
                 write
                 Absolon
                 and
                 Achitophel
                 ;
                 or
                 because
                 one
                 fidled
                 once
                 to
                 Cromwel
                 ,
                 the
                 said
                 man
                 afterwards
                 cannot
                 turn
                 Tory
                 and
                 
                   Observator
                   .
                   Tempora
                   mutantur
                
                 —
                 And
                 because
                 some
                 persons
                 at
                 some
                 time
                 Swear
                 truly
                 and
                 sincerely
                 ,
                 therefore
                 the
                 same
                 persons
                 may
                 not
                 be
                 tamper'd
                 with
                 and
                 prevail'd
                 upon
                 at
                 some
                 other
                 time
                 to
                 be
                 Perjur'd
                 .
                 Certainly
                 the
                 Learned
                 Observator
                 would
                 have
                 all
                 men
                 to
                 be
                 as
                 much
                 out
                 of
                 their
                 Sences
                 ,
                 as
                 he
                 is
                 out
                 in
                 his
                 Arguments
                 ,
                 to
                 draw
                 Conclusions
                 ,
                 that
                 they
                 who
                 will
                 not
                 believe
                 these
                 men
                 for
                 credible
                 Witnesses
                 ,
                 whom
                 the
                 Parliament
                 once
                 represented
                 for
                 such
                 ,
                 arraign
                 the
                 Parliament
                 .
                 Sure
                 he
                 thinks
                 all
                 the
                 world
                 fools
                 to
                 be
                 thus
                 ridiculously
                 impos'd
                 upon
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 Nay
                 ,
                 't
                 is
                 a
                 meer
                 Popish
                 Design
                 this
                 of
                 uncrediting
                 the
                 Witnesses
                 ;
                 for
                 under
                 the
                 colour
                 of
                 asserting
                 the
                 innocency
                 of
                 Protestants
                 (
                 which
                 the
                 Observator
                 will
                 not
                 believe
                 )
                 
                   they
                   do
                   all
                   that
                   is
                   possible
                   to
                   advantage
                   the
                   cause
                   ,
                   and
                   to
                   puzzle
                   the
                   discovery
                   of
                   the
                
                 Papists
                 .
                 Numb
                 .
                 77.
                 
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 How
                 zealous
                 is
                 this
                 good
                 man
                 for
                 the
                 discovery
                 of
                 the
                 Popish
                 Plot
                 !
                 and
                 what
                 care
                 he
                 takes
                 it
                 may
                 not
                 be
                 stifled
                 by
                 the
                 innocency
                 of
                 the
                 Protestants
                 ;
                 according
                 to
                 his
                 Rule
                 ,
                 the
                 best
                 way
                 to
                 find
                 out
                 the
                 Popish
                 Plot
                 ,
                 is
                 to
                 swear
                 a
                 Presbyterian
                 Plot
                 upon
                 the
                 Government
                 and
                 Le'Strange
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N
                 
              
               
                 
                   Her
                   ▪
                
                 tells
                 you
                 ,
                 Num.
                 46.
                 
                 
                   Ingratitude
                   and
                   dulness
                   will
                   be
                   for
                   ever
                   Characteristicks
                   of
                   Whiggism
                   .
                   Ingrateful
                
                 the
                 Whigs
                 are
                 ;
                 not
                 to
                 believe
                 the
                 
                 Witnesses
                 that
                 swore
                 against
                 the
                 Papists
                 ;
                 and
                 dull
                 that
                 will
                 not
                 understand
                 the
                 Observators
                 Arguments
                 to
                 prove
                 them
                 credible
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 If
                 Ingratitude
                 and
                 Dulness
                 be
                 the
                 Whigs
                 character
                 ;
                 Lying
                 and
                 Perjury
                 seems
                 to
                 be
                 as
                 greatmarks
                 of
                 Torism
                 .
                 If
                 the
                 Tories
                 have
                 all
                 the
                 Wit
                 ,
                 let
                 the
                 Whigs
                 be
                 content
                 with
                 their
                 
                   dul
                   honesty
                
                 ,
                 so
                 they
                 have
                 Sence
                 enough
                 to
                 defend
                 themselves
                 from
                 their
                 adversaries
                 rage
                 and
                 malice
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 The
                 Observator
                 is
                 a
                 most
                 prying
                 man
                 ,
                 diligent
                 in
                 his
                 Vocation
                 ;
                 he
                 'll
                 meet
                 with
                 you
                 for
                 it
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 Not
                 in
                 
                 Moor-fields
                 ,
                 nor
                 at
                 Madam
                 Creswels
                 .
                 He
                 is
                 a
                 diligent
                 Observator
                 indeed
                 :
                 
                   Dick
                   Ianeway
                
                 cannot
                 tell
                 the
                 world
                 in
                 his
                 Intelligence
                 ,
                 of
                 a
                 Bawds
                 being
                 Convicted
                 ,
                 but
                 he
                 makes
                 his
                 Observations
                 upon
                 it
                 ,
                 and
                 chews
                 it
                 as
                 if
                 he
                 lov'd
                 
                   Bawdry
                   ▪
                
                 and
                 still
                 remembers
                 his
                 old
                 haunts
                 ,
                 and
                 what
                 he
                 could
                 have
                 done
                 :
                 Mark
                 some
                 more
                 of
                 
                 Roger's
                 Pious
                 Sayings
                 ,
                 or
                 
                   Apothegms
                   :
                   'T
                   is
                   an
                   unknown
                   deal
                   of
                   mony
                   that
                   good
                   Woman
                   has
                   got
                   by
                   the
                   way
                   of
                   True
                   Protestant
                   Concupiscence
                   .
                   Numb
                   .
                
                 78.
                 
                 What
                 a
                 sweet
                 breath
                 he
                 has
                 !
                 she
                 was
                 no
                 Bawd
                 then
                 for
                 a
                 Tory.
                 Mark
                 his
                 next
                 Godly
                 Sentence
                 ,
                 Moor
                 -
                 
                   fields
                   stands
                   in
                   so
                   pleasant
                   an
                   Air
                   ,
                   and
                   there
                   's
                   the
                   finest
                   walk
                   for
                   Meditation
                   ,
                   from
                   a
                   Wench
                   to
                   a
                   Sacrament
                   :
                   ibid.
                
                 You
                 may
                 perceive
                 what
                 Meditations
                 this
                 man
                 used
                 to
                 have
                 ,
                 he
                 speaks
                 so
                 feelingly
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 He
                 cares
                 not
                 what
                 he
                 says
                 against
                 the
                 Whigs
                 ;
                 he
                 would
                 have
                 no
                 body
                 talk
                 baudy
                 ,
                 jeer
                 ,
                 nor
                 play
                 the
                 fool
                 or
                 Buffoon
                 but
                 himself
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 I
                 know
                 he
                 complains
                 foully
                 ,
                 Num.
                 78.
                 
                 
                   What
                   a
                   thing
                   it
                   is
                   to
                   see
                   one
                   Gospelling
                   it
                   in
                   the
                   Pulpit
                   one
                   day
                   and
                   Buffooning
                   it
                   in
                   a
                
                 Comus
                 and
                 Momus
                 
                   another
                   .
                   To
                   see
                   the
                   same
                   person
                   acting
                
                 Christ
                 
                   upon
                   his
                   Throne
                   to
                   his
                   Congregation
                   in
                   a
                   Conventicle
                   ,
                   and
                   Mimic
                   on
                   the
                   Stage
                   to
                   the
                   Multitude
                   ,
                   in
                   a
                   Libellous
                   Courant
                   .
                   To
                   see
                   a
                   Teacher
                   of
                   the
                   Gentiles
                   go
                   recking
                   from
                   the
                   Stews
                   to
                   the
                   Holy
                   Table
                   ,
                   and
                   at
                   the
                   same
                   time
                   declaiming
                   against
                   Sensuality
                   and
                   Prophaneness
                   .
                
                 Are
                 not
                 these
                 good
                 and
                 Pious
                 Sayings
                 ?
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 It
                 would
                 do
                 well
                 to
                 collect
                 them
                 for
                 the
                 assentors
                 sayings
                 :
                 but
                 where
                 's
                 the
                 hurt
                 of
                 all
                 this
                 ?
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 None
                 at
                 all
                 ;
                 But
                 he
                 secretly
                 would
                 wound
                 the
                 Dissenting
                 Ministers
                 ,
                 as
                 guilty
                 of
                 this
                 ;
                 some
                 of
                 which
                 he
                 supposes
                 write
                 the
                 
                   Protestant
                   Observator
                
                 ,
                 and
                 the
                 Courant
                 .
                 But
                 we
                 know
                 the
                 man
                 is
                 no
                 Witch
                 ,
                 he
                 may
                 be
                 mistaken
                 in
                 his
                 blind
                 Observations
                 ,
                 as
                 well
                 as
                 his
                 friend
                 Gadbury
                 in
                 the
                 Stars
                 ,
                 and
                 in
                 his
                 Prognosticks
                 ;
                 though
                 he
                 brags
                 they
                 can
                 hardly
                 piss
                 but
                 he
                 knows
                 it
                 ,
                 
                   and
                   has
                   the
                   History
                   of
                   all
                   their
                   Haunts
                   ,
                   Practices
                   ,
                   Consults
                   ,
                   and
                   all
                   the
                   little
                   accidents
                   ,
                
                 78.
                 
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 Nay
                 he
                 is
                 down-right
                 I
                 assure
                 you
                 ,
                 and
                 loves
                 to
                 speak
                 plain
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 He
                 speaks
                 plain
                 enough
                 ,
                 but
                 it
                 would
                 be
                 well
                 if
                 he
                 spoke
                 truth
                 too
                 :
                 but
                 he
                 is
                 for
                 plain
                 downright
                 lying
                 and
                 accusing
                 .
                 They
                 (
                 says
                 he
                 ,
                 Numb
                 .
                 78.
                 meaning
                 the
                 Dissenters
                 )
                 
                   have
                   already
                   assassinated
                   one
                   Protestant
                   Prince
                   ,
                   and
                   involved
                   3
                   Kingdoms
                   in
                   Bloud
                   ,
                   Sacriledge
                   and
                   Confusion
                   ;
                   and
                   they
                   are
                   now
                   contriving
                   the
                   same
                   over
                   again
                   ,
                   by
                   a
                   more
                   audacious
                   and
                   Diabolical
                   Association
                   .
                
                 This
                 is
                 an
                 high
                 Charge
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 But
                 he
                 tells
                 you
                 ,
                 that
                 they
                 are
                 Hypocrites
                 ,
                 neither
                 Protestants
                 nor
                 Papists
                 ,
                 that
                 take
                 upon
                 them
                 the
                 name
                 of
                 Protestants
                 ,
                 and
                 brand
                 all
                 the
                 Sons
                 and
                 Servants
                 of
                 the
                 Government
                 (
                 such
                 as
                 himself
                 )
                 for
                 Papists
                 .
                 These
                 are
                 the
                 only
                 men
                 he
                 speaks
                 against
                 ,
                 that
                 have
                 made
                 an
                 Association
                 and
                 Confederacy
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 And
                 let
                 him
                 in
                 Gods
                 Name
                 :
                 but
                 he
                 should
                 do
                 more
                 than
                 write
                 or
                 speak
                 against
                 such
                 ,
                 for
                 he
                 should
                 bring
                 them
                 forth
                 ,
                 and
                 shew
                 their
                 particular
                 persons
                 to
                 the
                 world
                 ,
                 that
                 Justice
                 might
                 be
                 done
                 on
                 them
                 ,
                 and
                 not
                 by
                 his
                 Caterwauling
                 ,
                 endeavour
                 to
                 make
                 us
                 believe
                 all
                 the
                 Dissenters
                 are
                 such
                 kind
                 of
                 persons
                 ,
                 and
                 enter'd
                 into
                 an
                 Hellish
                 Plot
                 ,
                 and
                 Association
                 against
                 the
                 Government
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 If
                 you
                 would
                 have
                 let
                 him
                 alone
                 ,
                 he
                 would
                 have
                 shewn
                 you
                 the
                 particular
                 persons
                 one
                 by
                 one
                 :
                 they
                 say
                 Mr.
                 Somebody
                 has
                 a
                 list
                 of
                 them
                 ▪
                 but
                 the
                 
                   Ignoramus
                   Iurys
                
                 spoyl'd
                 the
                 sport
                 ;
                 and
                 the
                 folly
                 of
                 the
                 Tories
                 in
                 overdoing
                 ,
                 has
                 quite
                 undone
                 the
                 Presbyterian
                 Plot.
                 But
                 do
                 you
                 think
                 ,
                 that
                 he
                 who
                 will
                 translate
                 out
                 of
                 French
                 ,
                 an
                 
                   Apology
                   for
                   the
                   Protestants
                
                 ,
                 and
                 justifie
                 their
                 departure
                 from
                 the
                 Church
                 of
                 Rome
                 ,
                 will
                 be
                 so
                 wicked
                 to
                 undermine
                 them
                 ,
                 and
                 make
                 them
                 guilty
                 of
                 Plots
                 ,
                 when
                 innocent
                 ?
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 He
                 can
                 do
                 more
                 than
                 that
                 ,
                 when
                 in
                 his
                 Conscience
                 he
                 believes
                 no
                 such
                 thing
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 The
                 Observator
                 says
                 ,
                 Numb
                 .
                 79.
                 
                 
                   There
                   is
                   no
                
                 Protestant
                 
                   Plot
                   ▪
                   but
                   indeed
                   that
                   there
                   is
                   a
                
                 Phanatic
                 
                   Plot
                   ;
                   but
                   they
                   are
                   no
                
                 Protestants
                 
                   no
                   more
                   than
                   a
                
                 Turk
                 ,
                 
                   who
                   puts
                   forth
                
                 English
                 
                   Colours
                   is
                   a
                
                 Christian.
                 
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 But
                 who
                 are
                 these
                 he
                 calls
                 Phanatics
                 ?
                 He
                 tells
                 you
                 in
                 several
                 places
                 ,
                 they
                 are
                 the
                 Dissenters
                 ,
                 and
                 the
                 Protestants
                 are
                 only
                 those
                 of
                 the
                 Church
                 of
                 
                   England
                   ▪
                
                 so
                 that
                 't
                 is
                 clear
                 ,
                 all
                 Dissenters
                 are
                 Plotters
                 against
                 the
                 Government
                 ,
                 false
                 Christians
                 ,
                 or
                 Hereticks
                 ,
                 and
                 so
                 according
                 to
                 the
                 Tory
                 Principle
                 ,
                 may
                 be
                 lawfully
                 knockt
                 on
                 the
                 Head
                 ,
                 or
                 swore
                 out
                 of
                 their
                 Lives
                 ,
                 or
                 any
                 way
                 put
                 out
                 of
                 the
                 way
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 That
                 is
                 ,
                 
                   Because
                   their
                   Religion
                   is
                   a
                   mass
                   of
                   Errors
                   wrapt
                   up
                   under
                   one
                   denomination
                   ,
                   a
                   medly
                   of
                   Opinions
                   united
                   in
                   a
                   Conspiracy
                   ,
                   and
                   divided
                   in
                   Truth
                   ,
                   Numb
                   .
                
                 79.
                 
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 Yes
                 ,
                 We
                 know
                 what
                 he
                 says
                 of
                 them
                 well
                 enough
                 ,
                 and
                 that
                 he
                 makes
                 them
                 the
                 Gunpowder
                 of
                 the
                 State
                 ;
                 but
                 they
                 are
                 Trains
                 of
                 his
                 own
                 laying
                 ,
                 and
                 which
                 he
                 would
                 set
                 fire
                 too
                 ,
                 if
                 he
                 could
                 ,
                 and
                 were
                 these
                 Dissenters
                 such
                 persons
                 he
                 has
                 represented
                 them
                 to
                 be
                 ,
                 he
                 had
                 done
                 it
                 long
                 since
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 I
                 confess
                 he
                 cares
                 not
                 for
                 the
                 Damn'd
                 Vertue
                 
                   Patience
                   .
                   Obs.
                
                 80.
                 
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 
                   O
                   that
                   Medicine
                   for
                   a
                   Mad
                   Dog
                   :
                   A
                   virtue
                   in
                   Religion
                   ,
                   but
                   not
                   in
                   State
                   ,
                
                 ibid.
                 He
                 hates
                 Patience
                 on
                 either
                 hand
                 ,
                 that
                 Vertue
                 in
                 the
                 Whigs
                 troubles
                 him
                 ,
                 because
                 they
                 won't
                 run
                 horn
                 mad
                 at
                 his
                 luteing
                 ;
                 and
                 in
                 the
                 State
                 ,
                 because
                 it
                 
                   nips
                   not
                   the
                
                 Phanaticks
                 
                   in
                   the
                   bud
                
                 ;
                 that
                 is
                 ,
                 hang
                 up
                 all
                 that
                 take
                 the
                 liberty
                 of
                 contradicting
                 the
                 State
                 Scavengers
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 N.
                 
              
               
                 I
                 find
                 this
                 Patience
                 has
                 done
                 much
                 mischief
                 .
              
            
             
               
                 S.
                 
              
               
                 It
                 has
                 disappointed
                 the
                 Tantaras
                 ,
                 and
                 makes
                 them
                 blow
                 Sedition
                 so
                 long
                 ,
                 till
                 they
                 are
                 almost
                 weary
                 .
              
            
          
        
         
           
             
               London
               ,
               Printed
               for
               
                 El.
                 Smith
              
               ,
               1681.