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A56099) Transcribed from: (Early English Books Online ; image set 60387) Images scanned from microfilm: (Early English books, 1641-1700 ; 875:40) The Protestants' doom in popish times Bull, George, 1634-1710. 4 p. s.n., [London? : 1689] Reproduction of original in Huntington Library. Caption title. Ascribed to the Right Reverend Dr. Bull. cf. William Oldys, editor of the Harleian miscellany. p. 28. Created by converting TCP files to TEI P5 using tcp2tei.xsl, TEI @ Oxford. Re-processed by University of Nebraska-Lincoln and Northwestern, with changes to facilitate morpho-syntactic tagging. Gap elements of known extent have been transformed into placeholder characters or elements to simplify the filling in of gaps by user contributors. 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A Prince putting himself , and his Dominions under the Authority of the POPE , and admitting ( as he must unavoidably ) the Laws and Decrees of the Romish Church , all his Protestant Subjects being , by the Judgment and Sentence of that Church , HERETICKS , (a) do forthwith lie under the Penalty which those Laws and Constitutions will have infl●cted upon Hereticks ; Heresie (b) being the highest degree of High-Treas●n ; called therefore by them , Laese Crimen Maj●statis Divinae : So the English Protestant must be a Trayt●r , and the worst of Traytors , and exposed to the Penalties of High Treason . The LAWS and Decrees of the Romish Church against HERETICKS . He●esie (c) is denounced INFAMOUS , and the Heretick must be dealt with as such ; which is many Penalties in one . First ▪ Whereby they are deprived of all Nobility , Ju●isdiction and Dignity , and debarred from all Offices , and Publick Councils , Parliaments as others ; Being made uncapable of choosing , and being chosen : So that it reacheth all sorts (d) of Clergy , Layety , Noble and Igno●le : Which is extended to their Children a●so . For , they say , The Issue of Traytors , Civil and Spiritual ▪ lose their Nobility . And all that owe a●y Duty to such Infamous Persons , are discharged and exempted there from ; as Subjects (e) from their PRINCE , Servants (f) from their MASTERS , Children (g) from their PARENTS ; whom they also may lawfully Kill . Whereby we may see a little , to what Condition the Admission of the PAPAL Authority wo●ld reduce us , expelling both Nature and Humanity , and making the dearest Relatives unnatural and barbaro●s to one another : It would leave no Protestant either Dignity or Authority ▪ either ●ety or Liberty ; Nobles are sentenced to Peasants , and Peasants to Slaves . Secondly , Another Penalty , to which Hereticks are condemned by their Laws , is CONFISCATION of Goods and Estate ; and this they incurr I●s● jure , & ipso facto ; that is , immediately as soon as they shew themselves Hereticks , before any legal Sentence have passed : For which there is an express Decree in the Canon-Law ; (h) Bona Haeretico●um ipso jure d●scernemus Confis●ata ; We decree the Goods of Hereticks to be Confi●cate by Sentence of Law. The Effects of this Confiscation , wherein they all agree , makes the Severity of the LAW apparent , ●iz . First , All the Profits made of the Estate from the first Day of their Guilt , is to be (i) refunded . Secondly , All Alienations (k) by Gif● , Sale , or otherwise , before Sentence , are null and void ; and all Contracts for that purpose , (l) rescinded . Thirdly , Children , Heirs of Hereticks , are deprived of their Portions ; yea , though they be Papists . Whereby it appears , that as soon as the PAPACY is admitted , all Title and Property is lost and extinct among us : And therefore we must not think that Pope acted extravagantly , who declared , That all his Maj●sty's Territories were his own , as forfeited to the H●ly See for the Heresie of Prince and People . Not only Abby-lands lands are in danger , who ever possess them ; but all Estates are forfeited to his Exchequer , and legally Confiscated : All is his own , which PROTESTANTS , in these Three Nations , have or ever had , if he can but meet with a Prince so wise , as to help him to catch it ; whose process follows them beyond their grave , and ruins their Children , and Children's Children after them . And when they have stript the Heretick of his All , they provide that no other ▪ shall relieve him ; viz. That none shall receive him into their Ho●ses , nor afford him any Help , nor shew him any Favour , nor give him any Counsel . We are here in England zealous for Property ; an● all the reason in the World we should so be : But we must bid Adieu to this , when we once come under the Popes Authority ; for as soon as this is admitted . All the Protestants in these Nations are B●ggers by Law ▪ viz. By the Laws of That Church ; which will then be Ours , divesting us of all Property and Ti●●e to what ever ▪ we count our own . Thirdly , Another P●n●lty which their Law inflicts on H●●eticks , is Death , (m) which is the Sentence of the Canon-Law ; and which i● so Absolute , that no Secular Judge can remit ▪ and which is th● Judgm●●● of all the Doctors . Ita docent omnes D●ctores : And from which Penaltie , neither Emperors no● Kings themselves are to be freed or exempt . And the Death they i●fl●ct is Burning Alive : N● Death m●re tolerable . ●r of less e●q●●si●e Torture , will sati●fie the Mercy of that Church . The Canon saith thus ; Decernimus ut vivi in conspectu hominum combu●antur ; We decree , That they shall be Burnt Alive , in the Sight of the World. So our last Popish Successor , Queen Ma●y , pract●sed upon near three hundred Persons , without regard either to Age , Sex , or Qual●ty : The Scripture they urge for it , is Job . 15 6. (n) If any one abide not in me , Men gather them , and cast them into the Fire , and they are Burnt . So that as soon as the PAPAL Authority is admitted among us , all the Protestants in th●se Nations are dead Men in Law ; being under a LAW , that hath Sentence● us to be Burnt Alive ; and under a Power that hath Declared it necessary , that no one of u● escape with Life . Fourthly , Where legal Penalties cannot take place , b● reason of opposite Strength , they hold War necessary , and lawful to chastise Hereticks . For which we might give you divers Authorities ; (o) but let Cardinal Allen , our Country man su●●●e ; who asserts it is not only lawful , but necessary : His Words are these : It is clear ( saith he ) what People 〈◊〉 Persons soever be declared to be opposite to GOD's Church , with what Obligation so●ver ▪ either of Kindred , Friendship , Loyalty , or Subj●ction , I be bound unto them ; I may , or rather must ▪ take up Arms against them : And then must we tak● them f●r Hereticks , when our lawful Popes ad●udge them so to be . And which ( saith Car●inal Pool ) is War more Holy than that against ●he Turks . Fifthly , To destroy them by Massacre● , is sometim● hel● more adviceable ▪ than to run the hazard of War ; and which ( they s●● ) is both lawful and ●eritorious , for the rooting our a Pestilent Heresi● ●n● the promoting the Roman inte●est . This ●●ta ●oo● the ●●ish Massacre , that inhumane bloody Butchery ▪ not so m●ch from the Savageness and Cruelty of ●hei● N●tures , as the Doctrines and principles which dire●●ed ▪ and encouraged ●t : As also th●t of Paris ; than which nothing w●s more grateful and acceptable to their P●●es , as their (p) Bulls make ma●ifest , and the picturing● it in the Popes Chamber : and for which , 〈◊〉 a most Glorious Action , Triumphs were made , and publick Tha●k●givings were returned to GOD. So in Savoy , and elsewhere , both in former and later Times . And this was that which the late Conspirators aimed at so fully , intending a Massacre Those that escaped a Massac●e , ●uch (q) Dugdale must be cut off by the Army . And (r) Coleman tells the Int●rnuncio in his Letter ; That their Design prospered so well , that he doubted not in a little ●ime , their Business would be managed to the utter Ruin of the P●otestant P●rty : The effecting whereof was so desirable and meritorious , what if he had a Sea of Blood , and an hundred Lives , he would lose them all to carry on the Design . And if to eff●ct This. i● were necessary to destr●y an hund●ed Heretical Kings , he would do it . (s) Singl●ton the Priest affirmed , Tha● he would make no more to stab forty Parliament-men , than to eat his Dinner Gerard and Kelley , to encourage Prance to kill Sir E. B. G. told him , it was no Murder , no Sin , and that to kill twenty of them was nothing in that Case ; which was both a charitable and meritorious Act. And (t) Grant , one of the Massa●ri●g Gun-powder Tray●o●s said , up●n his Execu●ion● to one that urged him to Repent of that wicked Enterprize ; That ●e was so far from counting i● a Sin , that on the ●ontrary , he was confident That tha● Noble Design had so muc● of Merit in i● , as would be abundantly enough to make Satisfaction for all the Sins of his whole life . Sir Everard D●gby speaking to the sure purpose also . The provincial , Garnet ▪ did teach the Conspirato●s the same Catholick Doctrine ; viz That the King , Nobility , Clergy , and whole Communalty of the Realm of England ( P●p●sts exc●pted ) were Hereticks ; and , That all Hereticks were Accu●sed and Ex●ommunicated : and ▪ That no Heretick could be a King : but that it was lawful and m●ri●orious to K●ll him ▪ and all other Hereticks within thi Realm of England , for the Advancement and ●nlargement of the Au●h●rity an● Jurisdiction of the Pope ▪ and for t●● Restoring of the Romish Relig●on . T●is was that Garnet whom the P●pists here honoured as a Pope , and kissed his Feet , and reverenced his Iudgment as an Oracle ; and since his death given him the Honor of Saintship and Martyrdom (u) Dugdale des●sed , That after they had dispattched the King , a Massacre was to follow . But surely , it m●y be supposed , that the Temper of such a Prince , or his Interest , would oblige him to forbid or restrain such violent Executions in England : I , but what if his Temper be to comply with such Courses ? Or if his Temper be better ? W●at if it be Over ru●d ? What if he be perswade● as ot●er Catholicks are , that ●e must in Conscience proceed thus ? What if he cannot do otherwise , without hazard of his Crown and Life ? For he is not to hold the Reins of Government alone , he will not be allowed to be much more than the Po●es POS●●LION ; and must look to be ●nmounted , if he Act nor according to Order . The Law (x) tells us , That it is ●o● in th● power of any Civil Magistrate , ●●r 〈◊〉 Penalty , or abate the Rigour of the Law. Nay , if the Prince should plight has Faith by O●th , that he would not suffer their Bloody LAWS to be executed upon his Dissenting Sbjects , this would signifie not●ing : For they would soon tell him , That (y) Contracts made against the Canon-Law are invalid , though confirmed by Oath ; And , That he is not bound to stand to his promi●e , tho' he had Sworn to it : And , That Faith is no mo●e to be kept with Hereticks , than the Council of Constance would have it . So th●● P●otestants are to be Burnt , as Jo. Huss , and Jerom ●f Prague were by that Council , though the Emperor had given them his safe Conduct in that Solemn manner , which could secure them only ( as they said ) from the Civil , but not Church-process , which was the greatest . For 't is their General Rule , That Faith is either not to be given or not kept with H●reticks . Therefore saith Simanca , That Faith ingaged to Hereticks , tho confirmed by Oath , is in no wise to be performed : For saith he , If Faith is not to be kept with Tyrants and Pyrates , and others who kill the Body , much less with Hereticks who kill the Souls ; And that the O●th in savour of them , is but Vniculum Iniquita●is . A Bond of Iniquity . T●ough P●pish Princes the better to promote their interests , and to insnare their Protestant Subjects , to get advantage upon them , to their Ruin , have made large promises , and plight●d their Faiths to them , when they did not intend to keep it . As th● Emperor to John Huss and Jerom ; Charles the Ninth of France to his Protestant Subjects before the Massacre ; the Duke of Savoy to his Protestant Subjects , before their designed Ruin ; and Qu. Mary , before her burning of them . But if there were neither Law nor Conscience to hinder , yet in point of Interest he must not shew f●●our to Hereticks , without app●rent hazard , both (z) of Crown and Life , for he forfeits both if he doth . The Pope every Year doth not only Curse Hereticks , but every favourer of them , from which none but himself can ab●olve . (a) Becanus very elegantly tells us , If a Prince be a dull Cur , and fly not upon Hereticks , he is to be beaten out , and a kee●er D●g must be got in his stead . Henry the Third , and Henry the 4th , were both Assassinated upon this account , and because they were suspected to favour Hereticks . And are we not told by the Discoverers (b) of the Popish Plot , That after they had dispatch'd the King , they would depose his Brother also , that was to succeed him , if he did not answer their Expectations , for rooting out the Protestant Religion . But may not Parliaments secure us by Laws and provisions restraining the power which endan●er vs ? Not possible , if once they secure and settle the Throne for Popery : For , First , They can avoid Parliaments as long as they please , and a Government that is more Arbitrary and V●olent , is more agreeable to their designs and principles : It being apparent , that the English Papist have lost the Spirit of their Ancestors , who so well asserted the English Liberties , being so generally now six'd for the Popes Universal Monarchy , Sacrificing all to that Roman moloch ; being much more his Subje●ts than the Kings : and though Natives by Birth , yet are Foreigners as to Government , Principle , Interest , Affection and Design ; and therefore no Friends to Parliaments , as our Experience hath tol● us . But Secondly , If their Necessity should require a Parliament , ther● is no question but they may get such a one as will serve their turns . For so have every of our f●rmer Princes in all the changes of Religion , that have been amongst us : As Henry the VIII . when he was both for and against Popery , Edward the VI. when he was wholly Protestant , Qu. Mary , when she was for Burning Alive , and Qu. Elizabeth when she ran so counter to her Sister . And the reason is clear that he who has the making of the publick officers and the Keys of preferment and profit , influenceth and swayeth Elections and Votes as he pleaseth . And by how much the Throne comes to be fix'd in Popery , the Protestants must expect to be excluded from both Houses , as they have excluded the Papists : For as Hereticks and Traytors , they , as Ignominous Persons , &c. you have heard , forfeit all Right either to choose , or be chosen in any publick Council : And then all Laws , which have been made for the Protestants , and against the Popish Religion , will be null and void , as being enacted by an Incompetent Authority , as being the acts of Hereticks , Kings , Lords and Commons , who had forfeited all their rights and privileges . But Thirdly , Suppose our Laws were valid , as enacted by competent Authority , and such good and wholsom provisions , as were those Statutes made by our Popish Ancesto●s , in those Statutes of proviso●s in Enward the I. and Edward the III Time ; and that of p●aemunire in Richard the II. and Henry the IV. for Relief against Papal In roachments & Oppressions : Yet being against the Laws & Canons of Holy Church ; the Sovereign Authority , they will be all superseded : For so they determine , That when the Canon and the civil Laws cl●sh , one requiring what the other allows not , the Church-law must have the observance an● that of the State neglected : And Constitution● ( they say ) made against the Canon● & Decrees of the Roman B●shops are of no moment : Their best Authors are possitive in ●t . And o●r own Experience & Histories ●estifie the truth thereof : For how were those good Laws before-mention'd , defeated by the Popes authority , so that there was no effectual Execution thereof till Henry the VIII . time , as Dr. Burnet (c) tells us ? And how have the good Laws , to suppress and prevent Popery , been very mach obstructed in their Exe●ution , by POPISH I●fluence ? THE END . Notes, typically marginal, from the original text Notes for div A56099-e10 Protestants are Her●ticks . (a) Distinct. 19. Cap. a Caus. 25 q. 1. Cap. 11. (b) Cap. Vegent . de Hereticis . (c) Cap. Infam . 6. q. 1. p 297. 1. Forfeit Dignity and Office (d) Suar. de Fide. disp . 12. §. 9. n. 5. l. 2. c. 29. (e) Cap. de Haer. (f) Aazov . Tom. 1. l. 8. c. 12. q 7. (g) Cap. 2. Sect. fin . de Haer. in 6. 2. Goods and Estate . (h) Cap. cum secundum Legis de Haer. Inno. III. Cap. de Vergentis . (i) V●sq in Suar. disp . 22. S. 4 ● . ●● . (k) S. 1 〈◊〉 . (l) Cap. Vergent . de Haer. 3. Lives . (m) Cap ad abolendum de Haer. Suar. Dis. 23. Bul. Urb. 4 ▪ & Inno. 4. By B●rning . (n) Jac de ●ra decis . l. 2. c. 9. n 2. 4. D●stroy'd by War. (o) Bonacina Diana . Castro M●●anus ▪ &c. Car. Allen. ad mon. to Nobl. & Peop. p. 41. 5. By M●ssacre . (p) Briefs of P G. 13. & Cl●m . 8. (q) 5 J●● . Tryal ▪ p. 28. (r) Col. Lr. to the Internuncio . (s) Prance 's Nar. p. 4. (t) Caus● Ep. p. 189 (u) ● Jes. Tryal p. 25. 1. The Popish Prince cannot , help , if he would . Oaths and Promises insignificant . (x) Ca●● Offic●● . (y) Bonncina de prim . prac . Disp. 3. q ▪ 2. (z) Person 's Philop . p. 109. (a) Beca● . Cont. Aug. ● . 131 , 132. In Fowlis . p. 60. (b) Ores's N●r. p 4. N. 5 &c. 2 Parliaments cannot prevent Ruin to Protestants . 1. They may be avoided . 2. May be made to serve a Popish , not a Protestant Interest . 3. Good Laws insignificant . (c) Hist. Ref p. 110.