The speech of Bulstrode Whitelocke esquire to the right honourable the Lords, at a conference of both Houses on Thursday the seventeenth of February last concerning the propositions then made by divers gentlemen, citizens and others, for the speedy reducing of the Kingdom of Ireland.
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             The speech of Bulstrode Whitelocke esquire to the right honourable the Lords, at a conference of both Houses on Thursday the seventeenth of February last concerning the propositions then made by divers gentlemen, citizens and others, for the speedy reducing of the Kingdom of Ireland.
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           THE
           SPEECH
           OF
           
             Bulstrode
             Whitelocke
          
           Esquire
           ,
           TO
           The
           Right
           Honourable
           the
           Lords
           ,
           At
           a
           Conference
           of
           both
           Houses
           on
           Thursday
           the
           seventeenth
           of
           
             February
          
           last
           ,
           Concerning
           the
           Propositions
           then
           made
           by
           divers
           Gentlemen
           ,
           Citizens
           ,
           and
           others
           ,
           for
           the
           speedy
           reducing
           of
           the
           Kingdom
           of
           IRELAND
           .
        
         
         
           
             LONDON
             .
          
           Printed
           for
           
             John
             Burroughes
             .
          
           1642.
           
        
      
    
     
       
       
       
         
           The
           Speech
           of
           
             Bulstrode
             Whitelock
          
           Esquire
           ,
           To
           the
           Right
           Honourable
           the
           House
           of
           Peers
           ,
           now
           assembled
           in
           PARLIAMENT
           .
        
         
           
             My
             Lords
             ,
          
        
         
           I
           Am
           commanded
           by
           the
           House
           of
           
             Commons
             ,
          
           to
           present
           unto
           your
           Lordships
           a
           Vote
           which
           hath
           passed
           that
           House
           upon
           some
           propositions
           made
           unto
           them
           ,
           for
           the
           speedy
           ,
           and
           effectuall
           reducing
           of
           the
           Kingdom
           of
           
             Ireland
             :
          
           I
           desire
           the
           Vote
           may
           be
           read
           ,
           and
           afterwards
           I
           shall
           offer
           a
           few
           Reasons
           to
           invite
           your
           Lordships
           consent
           unto
           it
           .
        
         
           After
           the
           Vote
           read
           ,
        
         
           My
           Lords
           ,
        
         
           You
           observe
           three
           Motives
           for
           the
           House
           of
           
             Commons
          
           to
           passe
           this
           Vote
           .
        
         
           
             
               1.
               
            
             The
             Reducing
             of
             
               Ireland
               .
            
          
           
             
               2.
               
            
             The
             greatnesse
             and
             profit
             of
             the
             King
             .
          
           
             
               3.
               
            
             The
             case
             of
             the
             People
             of
             
               England
               .
            
          
        
         
           The
           reducing
           of
           that
           Kingdom
           at
           this
           time
           ,
           concerns
           not
           only
           the
           Civil
           Power
           ,
           but
           the
           existence
           of
           our
           Religion
           .
           Their
           former
           Rebellions
           have
           been
           
           only
           conflicts
           with
           Soveraignty
           ,
           to
           withstand
           the
           subjection
           to
           the
           Crown
           of
           
             England
             ;
          
           the
           present
           revolts
           goes
           to
           the
           extirpation
           of
           our
           Nation
           and
           Religion
           amongst
           them
           .
           They
           have
           falsely
           scandalized
           the
           Piety
           and
           Honour
           of
           His
           Majestie
           ,
           and
           of
           the
           Queen
           ;
           and
           yet
           pretend
           loyalty
           ,
           and
           would
           cover
           their
           wickednesse
           with
           the
           cloak
           of
           their
           Religion
           .
        
         
           It
           is
           too
           evident
           ,
           they
           intend
           not
           only
           to
           shake
           of
           the
           Government
           of
           
             England
          
           over
           them
           ,
           but
           to
           blot
           out
           the
           name
           of
           the
           English
           ,
           and
           Protestants
           ,
           and
           if
           their
           strength
           can
           equall
           their
           malice
           ,
           and
           suffice
           to
           transport
           them
           hither
           ,
           they
           will
           stain
           this
           Land
           with
           the
           bloud
           of
           Protestants
           ,
           as
           they
           have
           already
           with
           most
           barbarous
           cruolties
           taken
           away
           the
           lives
           of
           many
           thousands
           of
           our
           poor
           Brethren
           in
           
             Ireland
             .
          
        
         
           ●
           .
           The
           question
           is
           not
           now
           ,
           Whether
           English
           or
           Irish
           shall
           govern
           ;
           but
           whether
           the
           Protestant
           ,
           or
           the
           Popish
           Religion
           shall
           be
           established
           ,
           and
           which
           of
           them
           shall
           be
           ruined
           .
           The
           very
           life
           and
           soul
           of
           our
           Religion
           lyes
           now
           at
           stake
           ,
           and
           no
           good
           Protestant
           but
           will
           readily
           lay
           down
           his
           own
           life
           and
           fortunes
           ,
           to
           succour
           and
           maintain
           it
           .
           These
           propositions
           tend
           to
           that
           good
           end
           ,
           and
           there
           can
           be
           no
           greater
           motive
           to
           entertain
           them
           .
        
         
           2.
           
           The
           greatnesse
           and
           profit
           of
           His
           Majesty
           is
           so
           much
           concerned
           herein
           ,
           That
           as
           the
           losse
           of
           that
           large
           and
           fertile
           Iland
           ,
           would
           cut
           off
           a
           third
           part
           of
           His
           Majesties
           Dominions
           ;
           so
           a
           through
           reduction
           of
           it
           would
           establish
           the
           Kings
           throne
           which
           hath
           been
           totterring
           there
           above
           400.
           years
           ,
           and
           would
           much
           advantage
           the
           greatnesse
           and
           profit
           of
           His
           Majesty
           .
        
         
         
           3.
           
           The
           ease
           of
           the
           people
           of
           
             England
             ,
          
           your
           Lordships
           will
           readily
           condiscend
           unto
           ,
           when
           you
           shall
           be
           pleased
           to
           remember
           the
           great
           and
           heavy
           payments
           they
           have
           lately
           undergone
           .
           I
           omit
           those
           illegall
           ones
           before
           the
           Parliament
           ,
           where
           the
           payment
           was
           a
           punishment
           for
           submission
           to
           unlawfull
           taxes
           ;
           but
           those
           necessary
           great
           levies
           raised
           by
           Authority
           of
           this
           Parliament
           ;
           and
           whereby
           the
           happy
           settlement
           of
           the
           peace
           and
           union
           of
           
             England
          
           and
           
             Scotland
          
           hath
           been
           wrought
           ,
           These
           with
           the
           present
           generall
           decay
           of
           trade
           have
           brought
           the
           people
           very
           low
           ;
           and
           we
           finde
           some
           in
           the
           Country
           more
           apprehensive
           ,
           what
           summes
           go
           out
           of
           their
           Purses
           ,
           then
           what
           honor
           or
           liberty
           they
           gain
           therby
           .
        
         
           Our
           Stories
           acquaint
           us
           with
           sad
           effects
           of
           great
           and
           often
           taxes
           ;
           If
           these
           propositions
           succeed
           ,
           those
           dangers
           will
           be
           prevented
           ;
           the
           inferiour
           and
           poorer
           sort
           eased
           ,
           and
           sufficient
           to
           do
           the
           work
           ,
           raised
           voluntarily
           by
           such
           as
           are
           best
           able
           and
           willing
           to
           spare
           it
           ,
           By
           many
           liberall
           and
           cheerfull
           contributions
           ,
           whom
           God
           will
           blesse
           for
           it
           .
           It
           will
           be
           a
           pleasing
           sacrifice
           to
           him
           ,
           and
           an
           immortall
           honor
           to
           those
           most
           worthy
           persons
           ,
           who
           shall
           bring
           materialls
           to
           this
           building
           ,
           And
           this
           not
           without
           strong
           hopes
           of
           advantage
           to
           themselves
           .
        
         
           When
           profit
           shall
           be
           an
           ingredient
           with
           Charity
           and
           Loyalty
           ;
           the
           plaister
           will
           be
           the
           sooner
           ,
           and
           better
           tempered
           ,
           that
           may
           cure
           the
           wounds
           of
           
             Ireland
             .
          
           And
           when
           Charity
           doth
           relieve
           our
           poor
           distressed
           Brethren
           ;
           Loyalty
           to
           our
           King
           and
           Country
           ,
           to
           preserve
           the
           honour
           and
           profit
           of
           both
           ,
           And
           Piety
           to
           God
           ,
           and
           our
           own
           souls
           are
           the
           Motives
           .
           
           I
           doubt
           not
           of
           the
           cheerfull
           concurrence
           of
           your
           Lordships
           with
           the
           House
           of
           Commons
           ,
           to
           embrace
           all
           good
           and
           honorable
           means
           ,
           for
           the
           effecting
           this
           great
           work
           of
           reducing
           that
           Kingdom
           .
        
         
           I
           come
           now
           to
           the
           propositions
           .
           The
           first
           is
           ,
           That
           two
           Millions
           and
           a
           half
           of
           Acres
           may
           be
           allotted
           to
           such
           as
           shall
           disburse
           moneyes
           for
           this
           service
           .
           The
           propositions
           may
           seem
           at
           the
           first
           very
           large
           and
           difficult
           ;
           but
           when
           it
           shall
           appear
           by
           computation
           of
           men
           of
           great
           experience
           of
           that
           Countrey
           ,
           and
           upon
           solid
           grounds
           ,
           that
           the
           content
           of
           this
           Island
           is
           above
           15
           Millions
           of
           Acres
           of
           profitable
           Lands
           ;
           whereof
           5
           Millions
           of
           Acres
           are
           estimated
           to
           belong
           to
           the
           Kings
           good
           Subjects
           there
           :
           out
           of
           the
           ten
           Millions
           remaining
           ,
           they
           ask
           but
           two
           Millions
           and
           a
           half
           ;
           and
           yet
           three
           parts
           of
           four
           of
           that
           Kingdom
           ,
           are
           out
           in
           Rebellion
           .
        
         
           This
           may
           make
           the
           propositions
           seem
           neither
           immoderate
           nor
           difficult
           .
        
         
           The
           proportions
           to
           be
           assigned
           to
           the
           adventurers
           ,
           will
           be
           found
           equall
           and
           reasonable
           .
        
         
           The
           second
           proposition
           is
           in
           advancing
           the
           Kings
           Revenue
           by
           reserved
           Rents
           to
           him
           ,
           out
           of
           these
           two
           Millions
           ,
           and
           half
           Acres
           .
           It
           is
           well
           known
           ,
           the
           Revenue
           of
           that
           Kingdom
           ,
           out
           of
           the
           Exchequer
           and
           Court
           of
           Wards
           there
           ,
           never
           exceeded
           forty
           three
           thousand
           pounds
           
             per
             an.
          
           besides
           the
           Customes
           ,
           which
           never
           yeelded
           much
           ,
           and
           altogether
           would
           scarce
           defray
           the
           charge
           of
           that
           Crown
           .
           And
           some
           late
           pretences
           of
           improving
           the
           Revenue
           there
           ,
           appear
           to
           your
           Lordships
           upon
           examination
           ,
           to
           be
           very
           small
           ,
           and
           all
           that
           was
           advanced
           ,
           
           came
           by
           unworthy
           Monopolies
           ,
           and
           to
           private
           hands
           .
           By
           these
           propositions
           ,
           the
           Rent
           to
           be
           reserved
           ,
           will
           amount
           to
           between
           thirty
           and
           forty
           thousand
           pounds
           
             per
             an.
          
           besides
           seven
           Millions
           and
           a
           half
           ,
           of
           Acres
           left
           to
           be
           disposed
           ,
           and
           what
           even
           the
           Customes
           have
           been
           at
           the
           highest
           ,
           will
           be
           really
           trebled
           unto
           his
           Majesty
           .
        
         
           The
           other
           propositions
           are
           for
           the
           speedy
           payment
           of
           such
           summes
           as
           shall
           be
           raised
           ,
           whereby
           the
           Warre
           may
           proceed
           with
           a
           full
           strength
           and
           expedition
           .
           
             Livy
          
           observes
           ,
           that
           the
           
             Romans
          
           made
           their
           Warres
           great
           and
           short
           .
           Those
           with
           the
           
             Latines
             ,
             Samnites
             ,
          
           and
           
             Tuskanies
             ,
          
           concluded
           in
           short
           times
           ;
           one
           in
           six
           dayes
           ,
           another
           in
           ten
           dayes
           ,
           and
           a
           third
           in
           twenty
           dayes
           space
           .
           I
           mention
           not
           this
           with
           hopes
           to
           be
           imitated
           ,
           but
           to
           shew
           how
           much
           their
           actions
           which
           bear
           a
           great
           sway
           in
           the
           world
           ,
           confirm
           this
           truely
           ,
           That
           nothing
           in
           War
           can
           be
           more
           advantagious
           to
           a
           State
           ,
           that
           to
           bring
           it
           to
           a
           speedy
           conclusion
           .
        
         
           I
           cannot
           remember
           ,
           without
           much
           grief
           of
           heart
           ,
           the
           unhappy
           delayes
           in
           the
           relief
           of
           
             Ireland
             ;
          
           but
           those
           obstructions
           are
           now
           in
           a
           good
           measure
           removed
           ,
           and
           our
           hopes
           raised
           ,
           that
           by
           a
           blessed
           concurrence
           of
           his
           Royall
           Majesty
           ,
           your
           Lordships
           ,
           and
           the
           House
           of
           Commons
           ,
           the
           great
           work
           of
           
             Ireland
             ,
          
           with
           all
           possible
           speed
           ,
           will
           be
           finished
           .
           A
           narrow
           and
           thrifty
           course
           in
           this
           businesse
           ,
           will
           prove
           after
           the
           old
           Proverb
           ,
           but
           penny
           wisedome
           .
           To
           prolong
           time
           ,
           would
           give
           advantage
           to
           neighbouring
           Princes
           ,
           whose
           particular
           interest
           may
           ,
           perhaps
           ,
           at
           this
           time
           ,
           engage
           them
           ;
           otherwise
           stand
           at
           gaze
           ,
           and
           
           are
           full
           of
           jealousies
           of
           these
           proceedings
           ,
           to
           take
           the
           first
           occasion
           to
           oppose
           us
           ,
           and
           to
           support
           our
           enemies
           .
        
         
           I
           shall
           trouble
           your
           Lordship
           no
           further
           ,
           but
           with
           a
           short
           observa●ion
           from
           the
           Story
           of
           
             Ireland
             .
          
           King
           
             William
          
           the
           first
           ,
           who
           called
           himself
           the
           Conqueror
           ,
           gave
           leave
           to
           twelve
           Knights
           to
           enter
           
             Wales
             ,
          
           and
           what
           Lands
           they
           could
           gain
           there
           ,
           to
           keep
           and
           plant
           themselves
           in
           it
           :
           from
           one
           of
           these
           ,
           descended
           
             Richard
             ,
          
           the
           strong
           Bowe
           ,
           Earl
           of
           
             Chepstoe
             ,
          
           who
           in
           
             Henry
          
           the
           seconds
           time
           ,
           made
           the
           first
           Conquest
           ,
           and
           with
           such
           as
           desired
           to
           plant
           themselves
           in
           
             Ireland
             .
             Gerraldus
             Cambrensis
          
           tells
           us
           ,
           this
           shall
           continue
           
             Crebris
             conflictibus
             multis
             caedibus
             longoque
             certamine
             .
          
           These
           propositions
           ,
           I
           hope
           ,
           will
           give
           a
           period
           to
           that
           prophesie
           :
           and
           as
           the
           first
           Conquest
           there
           ,
           was
           begun
           by
           Plantation
           ,
           so
           a
           happy
           and
           perfect
           establishment
           thereof
           ,
           and
           of
           the
           true
           Religion
           ,
           may
           be
           made
           by
           a
           like
           noble
           Plantation
           ,
           to
           which
           these
           propositions
           tend
           ;
           and
           by
           command
           of
           the
           House
           of
           Commons
           ,
           I
           present
           them
           to
           your
           Lordships
           ,
           for
           your
           consent
           and
           approbation
           .
        
         
           FINIS
           .