Tvvo speeches, spoken in the honourable House of Commons. The first by Mr. Grimston Esquire: the second, by Sir Beniamin Rudiard. Concerning the differences between the Kings Majesty, and both Houses of Parliament. Grimston, Harbottle, Sir, 1603-1685. This text is an enriched version of the TCP digital transcription A85729 of text R1630 in the English Short Title Catalog (Thomason E94_7). Textual changes and metadata enrichments aim at making the text more computationally tractable, easier to read, and suitable for network-based collaborative curation by amateur and professional end users from many walks of life. The text has been tokenized and linguistically annotated with MorphAdorner. The annotation includes standard spellings that support the display of a text in a standardized format that preserves archaic forms ('loveth', 'seekest'). Textual changes aim at restoring the text the author or stationer meant to publish. This text has not been fully proofread Approx. 8 KB of XML-encoded text transcribed from 5 1-bit group-IV TIFF page images. EarlyPrint Project Evanston,IL, Notre Dame, IN, St. Louis, MO 2017 A85729 Wing G2050 Thomason E94_7 ESTC R1630 99860010 99860010 155780 This keyboarded and encoded edition of the work described above is co-owned by the institutions providing financial support to the Early English Books Online Text Creation Partnership. This Phase I text is available for reuse, according to the terms of Creative Commons 0 1.0 Universal . The text can be copied, modified, distributed and performed, even for commercial purposes, all without asking permission. Early English books online. (EEBO-TCP ; phase 1, no. A85729) Transcribed from: (Early English Books Online ; image set 155780) Images scanned from microfilm: (Thomason Tracts ; 16:E94[7]) Tvvo speeches, spoken in the honourable House of Commons. The first by Mr. Grimston Esquire: the second, by Sir Beniamin Rudiard. Concerning the differences between the Kings Majesty, and both Houses of Parliament. Grimston, Harbottle, Sir, 1603-1685. Rudyerd, Benjamin, Sir, 1572-1658. [2], 6 p. Printed for H. Hutton, London : 1643. Annotation on Thomason copy: "March. 25". Reproduction of the original in the British Library. eng England and Wales. -- Parliament -- Early works to 1800. Speeches, addresses, etc., English -- Early works to 1800. Great Britain -- History -- Civil War, 1642-1649 -- Early works to 1800. Great Britain -- Politics and govenment -- 1642-1649 -- Early works to 1800. A85729 R1630 (Thomason E94_7). civilwar no Tvvo speeches, spoken in the honourable House of Commons.: The first by Mr. Grimston Esquire: the second, by Sir Beniamin Rudiard. Concerni Grimston, Harbottle, Sir 1643 1455 2 0 0 0 0 0 14 C The rate of 14 defects per 10,000 words puts this text in the C category of texts with between 10 and 35 defects per 10,000 words. 2007-11 TCP Assigned for keying and markup 2007-11 Apex CoVantage Keyed and coded from ProQuest page images 2008-01 Elspeth Healey Sampled and proofread 2008-01 Elspeth Healey Text and markup reviewed and edited 2008-02 pfs Batch review (QC) and XML conversion TVVO SPEECHES , SPOKEN In the Honourable House of Commons . THE FIRST BY Mr. Grimston Esquire : THE SECOND , BY Sir Beniamin Rudiard . Concerning the Differences between the Kings Majesty , and both Houses of PARLIAMENT . LONDON Printed for H. Hutton . 1643. Mr. Grimstons Speech , IN The House of Commons , concerning the distempers between the King , and both Houses of Parliament . Master Speaker , I Would fain bring one stone to our building now in hand and it is but a caveat to the Master builders , to beware of those who hinder the worke , and pull down by night , what is built up by day . Master Speaker , there are that speake loudly to the King , and in agitating of all matters , seem very tender of him , but substances , and semblances , essences , and apparences , are opposite : Multa Videntur quae non sunt , these would make us believe , that our redressing of some grievances , is the pulling out of some flowers from the Crown , and hereby they cast maine and intricate doubts , wherewith to retard and perplex our proceedings , and to lay an ill favoured imputation upon us , as if we were regardlesse of our Gracious Soveraign , and these good men , the onely Battresses of his Royalty : by this they endeavour to endeare themselves to the King , for their own advancement , to have him guided by their own Councels , and to take off his affection from his best , and most Loyall Subjects , Assembled in Parliament . Master Speaker , The King and his Subjects are Relatives , and we know that in Logicke ; ne lato sublato tollatur Correlatum , they that disjoynt the King and his People , doe neither better nor worse but doe their utmost , to un-King him . M. Speaker , The King is the Parentthe Husband solemnly espoused at his Coronation , the head of the Republike , as it is with the natural parent , Husband and Head : So it is with the publike : the naturall parent bestoweth on his Child , protection and love , with all his fruites : the Child returneth him filiall reverence with all due respects , and he that laboureth to breake this intercourse , by possesseing the parent with an evill opinion of the Child , is equally an enemy to both . There is a sweet eccho of conjugall affections between the married , and he that shall go about to interrupt it , is a hater of them both , and a subverter of their Family . In the naturall body , such is the connexion between it and the Head , that a separation is destructive to both , where as otherwise , the head in the body , being the seate of the vitalls , and the brain in the Head , of the Animall Spirits , reciprocally communicating preserve the whole : Our gratious Soveraigne is the common parent , Husband , and Head , if therefore there shall be any found to be as undermining Pyoners envying to disaffect our parent to us , to divorce us from this our Husband to divide us from our head . My just motion is , that upon a watchfull discovery , whereon I would have every mans good intent , they may receive the extremity of severity as they deserve , and if any of them shall prove member of this House , that the Furnace may be heated ten times hotter , for betraying the trust reposed in them , by their County that sent them hither . A Speech spoken in the House of Commons , by Sir BENIAMIN RUDYARD . M. Speaker , IN the way we are , we have gone as far as words can carie us : We have voted our own rights , and the Kings Duty : No doubt there is a Relative Duty between a King and Subjects ; Obedience from a Subject to a King , Protection from a King to His People . The present unhappy distance between His Majesty and the Parliament , makes the whole Kingdome stand ama●●d , in a fearfull expectation of dismall calamities to fall upon it : It deeply and conscionably concerns this House to compose and settle these threatning ruining distractions . M. Speaker , I am touch'd , I am pierc'd with an apprehension of the honour of the House , and successe of this Parliament . The best way to give stop to these desperate imminent mischiefs is , to make a fair way for the Kings return hither ; it will likewise give best satisfaction to the people , and will be our best justification . M. Speaker , That we may the better consider the condition we are now in , let us set our selves three yeers back : If any man then could have credibly told us , that within three yeers the Queen shall be gone out of England into the Low-Countreys , for any cause whatsoever : The King shall remove from his Parliament , from London to York , declaring himself not to be s●fe here : That there shall be a totall Rebellion in Ireland , Such discords and distempers both in Church and State here , as now we find ; certainly we should have trembled at the thought of it : wherefore it is fit we should be sensible now we are in it . On the other side , if any man then could have credibly told us , That within three yeers ye shall have a Parliament , it would have been good Newes ; That ship-money shall be taken away by an Act of Parliament , the reasons and grounds of it so rooted out , as that neither it , nor any thing like it , can ever grow up again ; That Monopolies , the High-Commission Court , the Star-Chamber , the Bishops Votes shall be taken away , the Councell Table regulated and restrained , the Forrests bounded and limited ; that ye shall have a trienniall Parliament ; and more then that , a perpetuall Parliament , which none shall have power to dissolve without yout selves , we should have thought this a dream of happinesse ; yet now we are in the reall possession of it , we do not enjoy it , although His Majesty hath promised and published he will make all this good to us . We stand chiefly upon further security ; whereas the very having of these things , is a convenient faire security , mutually securing one another , there is more security offered , even in this last Answer of the Kings , by removing the personall Votes of Popish Lords , by the better education of Papists children , by supplying the defects of Lawes against Recusants , besides what else may be enlarged and improved by a select Committee of both Houses , named for that purpose . Wherefore Sir , let us beware we do not contend for such a hrzardous unsafe security , as may endanger the losse of what we have already ; let us not thinke we have nothing , because we have not all we desire , and though we had , yet we cannot make a Mathematicall security , all humane caution is Susceptible of corruption and failing ; Gods providence will not be bound , successe must be his , he that observes the wind and rain , shall neither sow nor reape , if he can do nothing till he can secure the weather , he will have but an ill harvest . Master Speaker , It now behoves us to call up all the wisdome we have about us , for wee are at the very brinke of Combustion and Confusion : If blood ( once more ) begin to toueh blood , wee shall presently fall into a certain misery , and must attend an uncertain successe , God knowes when , and God knowes what . Every man here is bound in conscience to employ his uttermost endeavours to prevent the effusion of bloud ; blood is a crying Sinne , it pollutes a land : Let us save our Liberties and our Estates , as wee may save our Souls too . Now I have clearely delivered mine owne conscience , I leave every man freely to his . FINIS .