Rump enough: or, Quære for quære, in answer to a pamphlet, entituled, No nevv Parliament, or, Some quæres, or considerations, humbly offered to the present Parliament-members. L'Estrange, Roger, Sir, 1616-1704. This text is an enriched version of the TCP digital transcription A87903 of text R207995 in the English Short Title Catalog (Thomason E1017_15). Textual changes and metadata enrichments aim at making the text more computationally tractable, easier to read, and suitable for network-based collaborative curation by amateur and professional end users from many walks of life. The text has been tokenized and linguistically annotated with MorphAdorner. The annotation includes standard spellings that support the display of a text in a standardized format that preserves archaic forms ('loveth', 'seekest'). Textual changes aim at restoring the text the author or stationer meant to publish. 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A87903) Transcribed from: (Early English Books Online ; image set 119293) Images scanned from microfilm: (Thomason Tracts ; 151:E1017[15]) Rump enough: or, Quære for quære, in answer to a pamphlet, entituled, No nevv Parliament, or, Some quæres, or considerations, humbly offered to the present Parliament-members. L'Estrange, Roger, Sir, 1616-1704. [2], 6 p. printed for any man that loves peace, London : March 14. 1659. [i.e. 1660] By Sir Roger L'Estrange. In reply to: No new Parliament. Annotation on Thomason copy: "March. 15". Reproduction of the original in the British Library. eng England and Wales. -- Parliament -- Early works to 1800. No new Parliament. Great Britain -- History -- Commonwealth and Protectorate, 1649-1660 -- Early works to 1800. A87903 R207995 (Thomason E1017_15). civilwar no Rump enough: or, Quære for quære,: in answer to a pamphlet, entituled, No nevv Parliament, or, Some quæres, or considerations, humbly offer L'Estrange, Roger, Sir 1659 2209 9 0 0 0 0 0 41 D The rate of 41 defects per 10,000 words puts this text in the D category of texts with between 35 and 100 defects per 10,000 words. 2007-04 TCP Assigned for keying and markup 2007-05 Apex CoVantage Keyed and coded from ProQuest page images 2007-06 Mona Logarbo Sampled and proofread 2007-06 Mona Logarbo Text and markup reviewed and edited 2008-02 pfs Batch review (QC) and XML conversion RUMP ENOUGH : OR , QUAERE for QUAERE , In Answer to a Pamphlet , ENTITULED , NO NEVV PARLIAMENT , OR , Some Quaeres , or Considerations , humbly offered to the present PARLIAMENT - MEMBERS . LONDON , Printed for any man that loves Peace , March 14. 1659. RUMP Enough , &c. ALthough That Pamphlet , which Occasions This , considered in it self , is not Worth a Reply : Yet , in regard of the Contrivers , and of the End it tends to , it may deserve one . I look upon it , as nothing else , but the Phanatiques late Petition , sliced into Quaeres ; by some unskilfull hand ; and with a Harmless kind of Simple Malice , directed to elude the Justice , and Necessity of their great Patrons Dissolution . I shall not much Insist upon the businesse , beyond the Obligation of a Formal Answer : but I shall take such heed to That , as to leave little place for a Return ; and in the rest , make the old saying good ▪ that one Fool may ask more Questions , than Twenty Wise men can Answer . The Quaere's are as follows . 1. Whether this be not the Parliament , and these the Persons , who began the War with the late King ? And if so ▪ whether it do not highly and neerly concern them , even for their own sakes , to be the Parliament that shall take up and Cloze the Quarrel , and not leave it to others , especially , if as the general voice goes , the Kings Son must be brought in ? Ans ▪ This is not the Original Parliament ; That was compos'd of Three Estates ; King , Lords , and Commons . Further , these very Persons now sitting , Declar'd the King , a Party with them in the Quarrel ; beginning the War , in the Kings name ; — For Him , not with ( that is , as it lies here Against ) Him . If thus ; the House must be Divided , as well now , in the Question , as formerly it was so in the War . The Parliament ( even in the Quaerists sense ) were those , that ( suitably to their Duties , and Engagements ) Voted a peace , in order to the pres●rvating of his Majesty , but there was a Faction too , that contrary to Honour , Faith , and Conscience , did forcibly seclude their Honester Fellowes , ( by much the Major Part ) and prosecute , and put to Death the King ; Those that have been Honest , are safe : nay , and so should those be too , that will at last be so , by my consent : but I demand Quaere . What Equity , or Reason is there , that those Persons who murthered the Father , and are still professed Enemies to the Son , should have an Equal Benefit with Others , that were Affronted for their Loyalty to the Former , and are at present upbraided ( as if 't were Criminal ) for their Affection to the Latter ? If the King's Son must be brought in , whether they will or no , what have we to doe further with those People , that declare they 'll keep him Out , if they can ? 2. Whether this Parliaments first undertaking and prosecuting the War with the late King were Just , and upon good and Warrantable Grounds ? If it were ( as no doubt it was ) and God having by his Providence , after a long Interruption of some of them , and a longer Seclusion of the rest , restored them to their Trust , whether they ought not now to stand to their first Good Principles maintain their first Good Cause , and secure all the good people that have been engaged with them and by them ? Ans. The war was just , in that part of the Parliament , which declared for the King , and acted accordingly , but unjust in those that swore to preserve him , and intended to murther him . That the Parliament ought to stand to their first good Principles ; we are agreed . In so doing ; they are to bring to condigne punishment , — the infrringers of their Privileges ; — the introducers of Arbitrary power — the Obstructors of successive Parliaments ; The murtherers of the late King ; — the subverters of the establish'd Government , &c. — I grant you further , that they are obliged to secure all the good people that engaged with them and by them ; but not consequently all those that acted violently against and without them ▪ — now my Question . Quaer. How is it possible , for those that began upon Principles of Contradiction , ( as the saving and destroying of the King , &c. ) — to stand to their first Principles . 3. Whether this be not that Parliament , and these the very persons , who by the good esteem they had among the people of their Integrity , Faithfulness and Constancy ; whether I say , this be not the Parliament , who by these and other means engaged the Honest and Well Affected of the Land in the aforesaid War ? And if so , whether this Parliament having new power in their hands , are not obliged in Duty and good Conscience to secure all the said honest and well affected people for this their Engaging and Acting under them , and not leave them as a prey to their prof●ssed enemies , nor their terms of Peace to be made by they know not whom ? Another Parliament , which there is too great cause to fear , will be too much made up of such as neither have been nor are friends to the Parliaments cause , nor to those that engaged in it . Answ . 'T is not the gaining of a good esteem , but 't is the Practice of Integrity , that recommends a worthy Person . I may believe well of a cheat , and ha' my pocket pick'd . But after that ; I think , I should deserve a yellow coat , ever to trust that fellow again , though he should plead ; — he had my good opinion formerly . — Some I confesse are yet in Being of those whose Interests raised the War , but these are not the men our Quaeristmeans : ( and beside ; the most considerable of that number , are in their graves ) For the rest ; ( to wave his Argument from power to Conscience . — ) Those people that dare not stand to the Test of a Free , Legal Parliament , must not presume to act themselves , as an Authority without Law , or Limit . In fine ; — If this be the same Parliament . that sirst engaged — them — Quaere . Why should the Secluders , and their Adherents ; — Those , which by Force of Arms , Baffled this very Parliament , in 48 ▪ scape better , then the Cavaliers , that fought against it , in 42 ? 4. Whether this be not the Parliament who by many Declarations and Remonstrances , by Protestation and Vow , by Solemn League and Covenant have declared and engaged themselves before God , Angels , and Men , and have thereby drawen in and therewith engaged all honest People to assert and defend their just undertaking and one another therein ? whether as things now stand , ( when this just Cause , which through Gods assistance could not be won from us in the field , is in great danger to be stoln from us by the dark contrivances of its and our adversaries ) if this Parliament should dissolve at such a time as this , and leave all , both Cause and all engaged by them in it to another Parliament , the greatest part whereof may be no friends but enemies , or at least strangers , or but little concerned in the first undertaking ; whether this would not be exceeding contrary to all those former Declarations , Remonstrances , Protestation , Vow and Solemn League and Covenant . Answ . I doe allow , — the Members of this present Session , are those Persons , that stand engaged by Oath and Covenant : and to that Oath , and Covenant , we appeal . — For granted ; they stand bound to protect all the Honest people they have engaged ; but not the Knaves , — the Covenant-Breakers ; I desire only this . — Quaere . Whether or not , are they that took the Covenant , bound to protect the Violaters of it ? — Nay , can they purge themselves of manifest Perjury , and Complication , should they not prosecute the obstinate opposers of it ? 5. Whether it be not more then sufficiently manifest , what will be the carriage of these Enemies to the Parliaments Cause , and its Adherents , when they get power into their hands , since they are so forward already in their discourses to charge the Parliament with Treason and Rebellion in their first undertaking the War , and look on all their Friends as Rebells and Traytors for assisting them in the Prosecution of it , and who are now in all places contriving and promoting the electing of such into the New Parliament as are Enemies to the present Parliament , their Friends and Cause , wherein if they prevail ( as t is too likely ) their work is done ? how absolutely necessary is it then for the present Parliament to continue their Session , for prevention of these Mis hiefs , which otherwise will ensue . Vpon these and many other very weighty Considerations , it can by no means be accounted either honorable , or just , or safe , or prudent for the present Parliament to dissolve themselves , till first they have fully asserted , and vindicated their own just undertaking , and the faithfull adherents to it and them , and not to leave ●oth themselves and their Friends to the Malice and Revenge of a vanquisht Enemy . If this should be , we may bid Adieu to the Honour and Renown of English Parliaments , and to all future hopes of assistance from the People , whatever the necessity may be : And let English men bid farewell both to their Civil and Religious Liberties , if after so high a Conflict for them , with the expence of so much blood and treasure , and having by Gods blessing subdued their opposers , yet after all to be exposed to a farr worse Condition then before , which O God forbid : We hope for better things from our present Parliament : All that we add , is only this , If the KING must come , none so fit to bring him as our present Parliament . Answ . 'T is not the Parliament is charged with Treason , but that Rebellious Faction ; — that , by an Insolence , praevious to the murther of his Sacred Majesty , threw out the major party of their Fellow-Members , which interposed to save him — and t is in their behalfs , this pittifull , half-witted Pamphleter engages . Should these Gentlemen sit , till they found a Free Parliament their Friends , they 'd hardly Rise betwixt This , and the Day of Judgement : and that 's all they desire . Alas ! a Trifle . — The Care they take of our Religion , and Civil Rights , in truth is a great Favour from them , that never understood their Own . — If the more sober , conscientious Persons at the Helm , think not fit to dissolve so soon ; these JONASSES , however , must be thrown over-board , to save the Vessel . — He that dissents ▪ let him produce his Reasons : and in particulars , but shew what Good , they 've either Done , or Meant us ; to Ballance the Calamities they have engaged us in . I should be glad to see these Men Repent ; hardly , to see them Govern . — These Folks are Ruined , if they doe not Rule ; the Nation , if they doe . — The Question then , is but — Quaere . Whether is more Prudential ; by saving of some half a score Secluders , that We should Perish ; or by their SPEEDY DISSOLVTION , that we should save our selves ? FINIS .