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Rectifying Mr. Molineux's State of the Case of Ireland's being bound by Acts of Parliament in England . Actum erat de foecundissimâ gente , Si libera fuisset . Plin. Panegyr . LONDON , Printed for Dan. Brown at the Black Swan and Bible without Temple-Bar ; and Ri. Smith at the Angel without Lincolns-Inn Gate near the Fields , 1698. To the Honourable the Knights , Citizens , and Burgesses , in Parliament Assembled . YOur House , and they a to whose Rights You succeed , having , for several Ages , been the Principal Support of the English Monarchy ; the Enemies to so excellent a Constitution have thought it could never be more effectually undermined , than by the drawing your Rights into Question : and thus have many made 〈◊〉 their deceitful Courts to Princes . 'T is not for me to determine , whether Malice or Sycophantry have induced some to deny , your being in any manner invested with that Authority , which they officiously ascribe to the Kings of this Realm , and their Council of Lords , or rather Privy Council ; to the derogating from the Lords in Parliament , no less than from You. I conceive it , allowable for me , to joyn the Men of this assurance with Dr. Brady , and other Advocates for Despotick Power : who have contended , that your first Presence , or Representation , in the National Council , began by Rebellion in the d 49. of H. 3. which being taken as proved , they conclude , that Kings may as well set you aside , as a Subject may any obligation extorted by threats and duress . And whoever has made any attempt towards the removing that Corner Stone for Tyranny , has been sure to incur the imputation of promoting Anarchy : as if your venerable Body did not in the least interpose between those two Extremes . The fairest colour which the Men of Foreign Notions and Allegiance have , for their premises , is from King John's Charter , which as they imagine , has declared or establish'd the Tenents of the Crown in Chief , to be the only legal Members of the Common Council of the Kingdom : the far different sense of which Charter , I may well say 't was my fortune to find and evince , upon my a first enquiry into the Nature of our Government ; since the force of truth has obliged even b Dr. Brady to yield it up to me , c after all the hard Words which he had given me on that occasion . Nor has he offered the least Shadow of Evidence against my List d from Domesday Book ; shewing , that notwithstanding the supposed Conquest of this Land by W. 1. they who had not forfe ▪ ted their Estates , enjoyed them upon or under Titles Priour to his Entrance ; without relation to any Grant , or Confirmation from him . Permit me to say , that the Researches in which this Controversy engaged me , have , in some measure , enabled me to assert your Authority , in the highest Instances of the exercise of Power ; aud to make out by Deduction , and numerous Presidents , what you have as 't were by Intuition ; that Ireland , as 't is annexed to the Imperial Crown of this Kingdom ; is subjected to that Authority , which is , and must be absolute ; and yet can never be gaievous , because of your share in it . Tho ▪ the bold denial of this , has already receiv'd your just censure of being of dangerous Consequence to the Crown , and People of England : Yet , if I may use the Allusion , I might observe , that 't is not held improper to make Comments upon the Sacred Text , to explain it to Vulgar Understandings : Which , I should hope , may plead in my Excuse , if not , Justification , while I am proving , that , as you have rightfully concurred with the Lords , in giving Ireland a King , by filling the Vacant Throne ; and that Glorious Preserver of your Liberties has , with the Advice and Consent of the States of this his Realm , made Laws with a declared intention of binding Ireland ; these Acts of Sovereignty , are not only agreeable to the Laws of Nature , and of Nations , but warranted by the Ancient Constitution of this Monarchy . The foundation of which , while I have been labouring to clear , from that Rubbish which would render it unstable ; it has happened with me , as with those , who having exhausted themselves in working a rich Mine , are forced to leave the bright Oar to them that come after : And thus 't is likely to be with those Collections which I have by me , concerning the Fundamental Constitution of this Government : by which I had flattered my self , that I must have contributed towards the Peace and Happiness of my Country , in shewing the admirable Harmony that there is between the constituent parts of this Empire ; how strong and beautiful they are in their due order ; How conspicuous that Degree of the Baronage , or Nobility of Engl. which you 're present , has been in all the Ages of this Monarchy , in maintaining its Glory ; what Persuasive Reasons both Prince and People have , to be satisfied with their several , and yet common Interests ; and how little they are to be thought Friends to either , who prompt them , as the Learned Grotius has it , In partem non suam involare . Whither I have been any way serviceable to the Publick , or can yet serve it , according to my Zeal ; is submitted to the Collective Wisdom of the Nation : The Judgment is with you ; who , if you should not think this , or any of my former labourous Effects of Idleness , as the Poet calls the Writing of Books , worthy of your Protection , or Notice ; I doubt not will extend your Pardon , to Endeavours consecrated to your use , By , Your Most Faithful and Affectionate Humble Servant , W. Atwood . The History , and Reasons of the Dependency of Ireland , upon the Imperial Crown of the Kingdom of England , &c. AS there 's no need of staying for Publick Authority or Encouragement , to oppose an open Invasion upon the Rights of my Country ; I cannot but think it my duty to make a stand , till better help come in , with Arms taken up on a sudden ; and that the rather , since by a shew of Precedents , and popular Positions , some lovers of English Liberties are drawn in , to join with the Invaders : nor do I wonder , to find Sufferers under Arbitrary Reigns , easy to be misled , by a seeming * Advocate for mankind , who undertakes the Cause of the whole Race of Adam . And yet to any man , who will be at the least pains to think of Consequences , 't will be manifest , that the Liberty which the Gentleman , whom I oppose , contends for , as the inherent Right of all mankind , would be a total exemption from all Laws and Government , except such as Adam had a right to in the state of Nature : and , for want of knowing who has the title of Descent from him , would turn all Nations to such Commonwealths , wherein every Paterfamiliâs is an independent Soveraign . If men were to be considered in such a state , I will agree with him , That on whatsoever ground any one Nation can challenge Liberty to themselves , on the same reason may the rest of Adam's Children expect it . But if this be taken with relation to the present Governments in the world ; then , suppose this Gentleman hold a Commonwealth to be the freest state of mankind ; to be uniform , he must believe , that no Monarchies ought to continue longer than the people should think fit : because , according to his Maxim , the People of a Monarchy have the same right to Liberty that the others maintain : and , directly to the present question , no nation ought to have any dependence upon any other Nation . And , perhaps others will say , neither ought they to have any protection . 'T is certain , that whether we consider the people of the same Nation , or the relation which one Nation has to another , their state or condition , must depend upon Constitutions and Agreements , express , or tacit . Indeed , what Constitutions and Agreements are binding , and for what time , will fall under the consideration of Reason , either of it self , or aided and assisted by Revelation . S. Paul having taught us , That the Powers that are are ordained of God ; I should think that the common practice of the world ( which this Gentleman admits to be against his Notions ) is no small evidence of the right of Acquisitions made by one Nation upon , or over another : But if these could in right be carried no further , than the * damage sustained by the injured Nation ; the bounds of the Acquisitions would be very uncertain , and desultory . That no true Principle opposes the Power , which England claims and exercises , over Ireland , might be shewn in a very narrow compass : Yet when many glittering Arguments are made use of , to support an unseasonable as well as groundless complaint ; it may be requisite to give direct Answers to those things which may seem most plausible ; and to lay such Foundations as may supersede the particular consideration of the rest : to which end I shall shew , 1. The nature of Mr. Molineux his Complaint . 2. The true Foundation and Nature of that Right , of which England is possessed , in relation to Ireland ; and Mr. Molineux's Mistakes , Omissions , and wrong Comparisons , and Inferences , concerning it . 3. That the Right which was at first acquired , is so far from being departed from , that 't is rather strengthened , and confirmed : and has been duly exercised , as the good of England has required , and in subordination to that : and , even in the greatest Instances now complained of . 4. That his Politicks , and seeming popular Notions , are wrong , and misapplied . 1 st . Mr. Molineux would insinuate into his * Majesty's belief , in his Dedication to him , that some of late endeavour to violate those Rights and Liberties , which the Irish , or English there , have enjoyed for above five hundred years : And he plainly enough charges , both Kings , Lords , and Commons of England , and that acting Parliamentarily , not only with this endeavour , but with actual violations of that , which to him seems , the inherent Right of all mankind . His Service to his Country , and to all the Race of Adam , he supposes to be call'd for , by the present juncture of Affairs , when the business of Ireland is under the consideration of both Houses of the English Parliament : that is , as his Margin explains it , the Case of the Bishop of Derry in the House of Lords , and the prohibiting the exportation of the Irish Woollen Manufacture , in the House of Commons . He complains , That Acts of Parliament in England , before the 10 th of H. 4. and 29 th of H. 6. had pretended to bind Ireland , without any confirmation there , tho they have not expresly claim'd this Right ▪ that there are modern Precedents of English Acts of Parliament pretending to bind Ireland : but these are Innovations ; tho , of his own shewing , no more than was done before the 10 th of H 4. But he is sorry to reflect , that since the late Revolution in these Kingdoms , when the Subjects of England have more strenuously than ever asserted their own Rights ▪ and the Liberties of Parliaments , it has pleased them to bear harder on their poor Neighbours , than has ever yet been done in many Ages foregoing . The first attempt which this Gentleman complains of , since his Majesty's happy accession to the Throne of these Kingdoms , is an Act made , in great compassion , for Relief of the Protestant Irish Clergy : The next is one prohibiting all Trade and Commerce with France ; while England was engaged in an actual War , of which Ireland was a miserable Seat. Another is the Act for the better security , and relief of their Majesties Protestant Subjects in Ireland ; wherein K. James's Irish Parliament at Dublin , and all Acts and Attainders done by them are declared void : And 't is further provided , That no Protestant shall suffer any Prejudice in his Estate , or Office , by reason of his absence out of Ireland since December 25. 1685. And that there should be a remittal of the King's Quit-Rent from Decemb. 25. 1688. to the end of the War. And the last is , That for abrogating the Oath of Supremacy in Ireland , and appointing other Oaths . These are the Acts of Parliament , by the suppos'd submission to which , he will have it , that the Rights of the People of Ireland have received the greatest weakening under his Majesty's Reign , and they are made of all his Majesty's Subjects the most unfortunate . These Acts are complained of , as Violations of the Rights of a Kingdom a compleat and absolute in it self , without any b subordination to England , especially in relation to Parliaments : That they are contrary to that c amity which should be maintained between distinct Kingdoms , or the Children of one common Parent ; which have distinct Rights , and Inheritances , absolutely within themselves : and d inconsistent with the Royalties , and Preeminence of a separate and distinct Kingdom . e Against the common Laws of England , which are in force both in England and Ireland , by the original Compact . f Against the Statute Laws both of England and Ireland . g Against several Charters of the Liberties granted to Ireland . h Against the King's Prerogative . i Against the practice of all former Ages . k Against several Resolutions of the learned Judges of former times . Destructive of l Property . Introductive of m the greatest confusion , and uncertainty imaginable . And lastly , n inconvenient for England , being likely to o make the Lords and People of Ireland think they are not well used , and may drive them into discontent . And yet this Complaint must be thought very modest , because , if the Great Council of England shall resolve the contrary , he declares he shall then believe himself to be in an Error , and with the lowest submission ask pardon for his assurance . I cannot in the least question , but that august and wise Assembly will use that Method which he refers to for his Conviction : yet , since they are employed in Affairs of more immediate consequence , than the asserting and clearing the grounds of that Authority which they have long been possessed of ; I shall think that I may do some service to my Country , in shewing , 2 ly The true Foundation of that Right , which England is possessed of , in relation to Ireland ; and what are Mr. Molineux's principal Mistakes , Omissions , and wrong Comparisons , and Inferences , concerning it . Here I hope to make it evident , 1. That he mistakes the Grounds for the submission of Ireland to H. 2. as well as the Nature of it ; and omits material Passages which may illustrate that matter . 2. That if he had been as conversant in Histories , and Records , as he would be thought ; he could never have had assurance enough to assert , that England may be said much more properly to be conquer'd by W. 1. than Ireland by H. 2. 3. That he is as much mistaken in his comparison between Scotland and Ireland ; and that matter of his own shewing , or admission , might have convinced him of an essential difference . 1. This Gentleman pretends to give the History of the Expedition of the English into Ireland ; which he supposes to have been in the Reign of H. 2. and that all the Right which has been acquired by England , to have any Government , or Superiority , over that Nation , was derived from within that King's Reign . Which manifests his having seen very little of our English Antiquities ; and his not attending to what Irish Acts of Parliament might have taught him . The Confessor's Law , under the Title of the Rights and Appendages , or Dependencies , of the Crown of England , expresly names Ireland as one , which it supposes to have been first annexed to the Crown of England by King Arthur . Accordingly , besides other Authorities which might be produced , a very Antient a Manuscript in Latin Verse in the Cotton Library , ascribed to a Gildas , who lived in the Year 860. speaking of several things done by that King in this British Kingdom , says ; His ita dispositis in regnum tendit Ybernum . These things thus settled , he for Ireland goes . Another b Manuscript in the Cotton Library , treating of the number of the Cour●ies of England , and the Countrys , and Islands , which of Right , and without doubt , belong to the Crown , and Dignity of the Kingdom of Britain , and the several Laws or Customs , by which they were governed ; among the places subject to the Danelege , mentions Man , the Orcades , c Gurth , and the other Islands of the Western Ocean , about or in the way towards Norway , and Danemark : within which we may well think Ireland to have been meant , since the Isle of Man is one of the Islands , there taken to be about , bordering upon , or in the Road to Norway , and Denmark . Tho the Confessor's Law places the Foundation of the Right of the Crown of England to Ireland , in the acquisition of King Arthur ; it must be agreed , that this was so antiquated , and so many Changes had happened in the State of this Nation , between his time and King Edgar's , that he might well have no regard to any Right from King Arthur : And , however , might suppose himself to have been the first of the Anglo-Saxon Kings , who had subjected Ireland , or the greatest part of it , to the Crown of England ; which that he did , we have the Testimony of his memorable Charter . Ego Eadgarus Anglorum Basilius , omniumque Regum insularum , quae Britanniam circumjacent , cunctarumque nationum quae infra eam includuntur , Imperator , & Dominus ; Gratias ago Deo Omnipotenti Regi meo , qui meum Imperium sic ampliavit , & exaltavit , super Regnum patrum meorum ; qui , licet Monarchiam totius Angliae adepti sunt , à tempore Ayelstani , qui , primus Regum Anglorum , Nationes quae Britanniam incolunt sibi armis subegit : nullus tamen eorum ultra ejus fines , Imperium suum dilatare aggressus est . Mihi autem concessit propitia divinitas , cum Anglorum imperio , omnia Regna Insularum Oceani , cum suis ferocissimis Regulis , usque Norvegiam , maximamque partem Hiberniae , cum suâ nobilissimâ civitate Dubliniâ , Anglorum regno subjacere . Quos etiam Armis meis imperiis colla subdere , Dei juvante gratiâ , coegi . I Edgar , King of the English , and Emperor and Lord of all the Kings of the Islands which lie about Britain , and of all Nations that are included within it , give Thanks to God Almighty my King , who hath so inlarged and exalted my Kingdom above the Kingdom of my Ancestors ; who , altho they had gain'd the Monarchy of all England , from the time of King Athelstan , who was the first of the Kings of the English that brought under him by Arms the Nations which inhabit Britain : yet none of them attempted to stretch his Empire beyond its bounds . But the propitious Divinity has granted me , with the Empire of the English , to put under the Dominion of the English , all the Kingdoms of the Isles of the Ocean , with their fiercest little Kings , as far as Norway , and the greatest part of Ireland , with its most noble City Dublin : Even all those , by the help of God's Grace , I have compell'd to submit their Necks to my Commands . From this time 't will be evident , to any who observe the stiles of our Kings , till H. II's time , that the Authority of England over Ireland was taken to be included under the stile of King of the English Saxons , of Britain , of the Island of Albion , or the like : not but that , for several Reigns before the time of H. II. Parliaments , in which the King's Charters pass'd , were often careful to have the stile more expressive of the Title to the Dominions out of England . For instances of both kinds : Edgar , after the Charter above cited stiles himself , Basileus dilectae Insulae Albionis , subditis nobis sceptris Regum Scottorum , Cumbrorumque ac Britonum , & omnium circumcirca Regionum . King of the Beloved Island of Albion , the Scepters of the Kings of the Scots , the Cumbers , and the Britons , being subject to us , and of all the Regions round about . In another ; a Basileus Anglorum , & Imperator Regum Gentium . King of the English , and Emperor of the Kings of Nations . After this King Ethelred stiles himself sometimes ; b Ego Adelred totius Albionis Monarchiam gubernans . I Athelred governing the Monarchy of all Albion ▪ Subscribes , Rex Anglorum . King of the English . Sometimes , a Ego Athelred totius Britanniae Basileus . I Athelred King of all Britain . Sometimes , b Ego Ethelred Britanniae totius Anglorum Monarchus . I Ethelred Monarch of all the Britain of the English . Sometimes , c Ego Ethelred totius Insulae . I Ethelred King of the whole Island . Subscribes , Rex & Rector Angulsexna . King and Ruler of the Anglo-Saxons . That Ireland and other Kingdoms and Dominions , were included within this stile , will appear by other Charters of the same King. Thus he stiles himself , d Totius Anglorum Gentis Basileos , caeterarumque Nationum in circuitu persistentium , primatum gerens . King of all the English Nation , and having the Supremacy over the other Nations living round about . At another time he stiles himself ; a Ego Ethelred Rex Anglorum , aliarumque gentium in circuitu persistentium . I Ethelred King of the English , and other Nations living round about . And the same stile b he uses in the Year 1001. tho , as appears above , in another Charter of the same Year , he stiles himself only King of the whole Island . And in another , c at the beginning of his Reign , only King of the English . W. I. generally stiles himself no more than King of the English , or King of the English , and Duke of Normandy . Yet , as one of his Charters has it , he was d the most powerful of all the Kings of that time , ruling the greatest Empire of England . That other Nations were then held to be Dependencies upon the Kingdom of England , appears by a Charter of his in the 15 th of his Reign , which begins ; e Ego Gulielmus Deo disponente rex Anglorum , caeterarumque gentium circumquaque persistentium Rector , & Dux Normannorū . I William by God's Disposal King of the English , and Ruler of the rest of the Nations round about , and Duke of Normandy . After his time his Successors , till H. 2. left the Dependencies of England out of their Stile , adding only other Dominions , which they had as distinct and independent . Thus H. 1. to mention no other , stiles himself King of the English , and Duke of Normandy ; but before the death of his Brother Robert , only * King of the English . Not here to bring other Evidences , of the continuance of the Superiority over Ireland ; to turn † Mr. Molineux his Argument upon him , if I shew the Church of Ireland to have been then dependent upon , or under the Church of England , he must not deny but the State was too . Archbishop Parker , who must be * allowed to have seen and understood the Evidences of the Rights of the See of Canterbury , and is agreed to be a faithful Collector , speaking of the time of H. 1. shews , that upon the vacancy of the Bishoprick of Waterford , Murchertach King of Ireland , with the Bishops , all the Nobility , and the Clergy , and People of the Island , sent to Anselm Archbishop of Canterbury , desiring Quatenus ipse , primatûs quem super eos gerebat potestate , & quâ fungebatur Apostolicâ fretus Authoritate , sanctae Christianitati , ac necessariae plebium utilitati eis subveniret . That by the Power of the Supremacy which he had over them , and the Apostolical Authority which he enjoyed , he would be aiding to holy Christianity , and the necessities of the people . * At their request , he upon the death of the Bishop of Dublin , consecrated one Malchus , whose Bishoprick † Pope Eugenius raised into an Arbishoprick : But notwithstanding the Popes , Eugenius and Adrian , had constituted Archbishops there ; yet they all acknowledged 𝄁 the Supremacy of the See of Canterbury in all things . And after Archbishop Parker had enumerated 33 Bishopricks in Ireland , he adds , * Hi omnes 33 Episcopatus , usitato & antiquissimo regni jure , ac instituto , Cantuar ▪ sedi ut Metropoli parent . All these 33 Bishopricks , by the accustomed and most antient Right and Constitution of the Kingdom , obey the See of Canterbury as the Metropolis . If it were doubtful whether he meant that this Right was , by the antient Constitution of the Kingdom of England , the former Authorities make it evident that it was . However I shall confirm them with two more . Gervace of Canterbury , who lived in the time of H. 2. speaking of Lawrence Archbishop of Canterbury , who succeeded the reputed English Apostle Austin , says , He not only took care of the new Church gathered out of the English , but of the old British Inhabitants ; and also took care of his pastoral Charge over the Scots , who inhabit Ireland , an Island very near Britain . Bromton , an Author who is cited by Mr. Molineux , mentioning the Dispute about Superiority , in the Great Council , or Parliament at Winchester , in the beginning of the Reign of W. 1. between Lanfranc Archbishop of Canterbury , and the then Archbishop of York , says * , Ubi Historia Bedae perlectâ , monstratum est , à tempore primi Augustini usque ad ultima Bedae tempora , quod circiter centum quadraginta annos erat , Cantuar. Arch. primatum super totam Britannicae Insulam , & Hiberniae gessisse . Where the History of Bede having been read , 't was shewn that from Austin's first coming to the end of Bede , which was about 140 years , the Archbishop of Cantorbury held the Primacy over the whole Island of Britain , and of Ireland . Thus I think 't is past dispute , that a superiority of Government , both in Church and State , was vested with the English , and by consequence in the Crown of England as the Head , from the 6 th of King Edgar at the latest , to the year 1151. when the Jurisdiction of Anselm Archbishop of Canterbury was submitted to by the Irish , as the antient and undoubted Right of that See. Nor can it be imagined , without some account of the Circumstances , that the Superiority and Authority of England should have been lost in less than 22 years , when Mr. M. supposes the Pretensions of England to have had their first ground . He will have H. 2. his landing in Ireland , to have been occasioned only by a fortunate Expedition thither by some of his Subjects a little before ; in assistance of some of the Princes , or Kings of Ireland , who had been oppress'd by a too powerful Neighbour ; and would insinuate as if the Deliverers were only entituled to be paid for the assistance which they gave : and he is so bountiful , as to allow that England ought to be repaid all their Expences in suppressing the late Rebellion . But , as England has supprest that Rebellion against the English Crown , it appears by what has been above cited , that the disputes between the Kings of Ireland only gave H. 2. opportunity , and encouragement , to assert the Authority of the English Nation , and to restore to the Crown the possession of the City of Dublin , and so much of the English Pale as could then be gained , with such addition as they could make in a just War , to secure those Bounds which had been invaded , and usurped upon by a barbarous Enemy . In this H. 2. was not to be blamed , for that Ambition which has carried Princes to make Conquests ; since his Expedition was no more than he was obliged to as King of England : For as the Confessor's Law has it , Debet vero de jure Rex omnes terras , & honores , omnes dignitates , & jura , & libertates coronae regni hujus , in integrum , cum omni integritate , & sine diminutione , observare , & defendere ; dispersa , & dilapidata , & omissa , regni jura , in pristinum statum & debitum , viribus omnibus revocare . But the King ought of right to keep and defend all the Lands , and Honours , all Dignities , & Rights , and Liberties , of the Crown of this Kingdom , with all integrity , and without diminution : with all his might , to bring back to the antient and due state , the dispersed , dilapidated , and lost Rights of the Kingdom . This was not only incumbent upon the Prince , but upon the People also , who were sworn Brethren to defend the Kingdom against Strangers , and against Enemies , together with their Lord and King ; and with him , to keep his Lands , and Honours , with all Fidelity . Accordingly , when the Pope cited E. 1. to answer judicially before him , concerning his Right over Scotland , the Parliament say , The Premises would manifestly turn to the disherison of the Right of the Crown of the Kingdom of England , and of the Royal Dignity , and notorious subversion of the state of the said Kingdom : And also to the prejudice of the Liberties , the Customs , and Laws of our Ancestors , To the observation of which we are bound , by virtue of the Oath we have taken ; and which we will maintain with all our Power , and , by God's assistance , will defend , with all our might . Nor also do we , or can we , as indeed we may not , suffer our Lord the King , even tho he would , to do , or in any wise attempt the Premises , &c. Here 's a ground to justify H. 2. and the People of England at that time ; which this Gentleman never thought of . And Giraldus Cambrensis , an Author received by him , and an Irish Parliament , has shewn another , from the nature of the Irish , the necessity of their Reformation , and that Authority which the generality of Christians in those dark Ages placed in the Pope . As to the Character of the People , after Girald had condemned their Clergy , for not doing their duty among them , he says , Ut enim de perjuriis eorum , & proditionibus , de furtis , & latrociniis , quibus totus hic populus prope modum , immopraeter modum , indulget ; de vitiis variis & immunditiis nimis onormibus , quas topographia declarat , ex toto non emittamus ; Gens haec Gens spurcissima , Gens vitiis involutissima , Gens omnium Gentium in fidei rudimentis incultissima . For not wholly to omit speaking of their Perjuries and Treasons , of the Thefts and Robberies which this whole people in some measure , rather without measure , indulges ; of their various vices and uncleannesses too enormous , which our Topography declares ; This Nation is a Nation most vile , a Nation the most drown'd in Vices , a Nation of all Nations the most ignorant in the Rudiments of Religion . This being the nature of the People at that time , there might seem , if there had been no prior Title , to have been as much a right of occupancy , as any Nation has had by the first possessing the Lands of Savages : but if the right of civilizing the barbarous part of Mankind was not sufficient , that Power which the then general consent of Nations had placed in the Pope , joined with the other , made a Title , which none but the Barbarians then disputed . This H. 2. had amply and formally . Giraldus Cambrensis not only informs us , that the Pope gave H. 2. licence to subdue the Irish , but exhibits the Bull at large , which , reciting the King's Intention of entring the Island of Ireland , Ad subdendum populum illum legibus , & vitiorum plantaria inde extirpanda , & de singulis domibus annuam unius denarii B. Petro velle solvere pensionem , & jura Ecclesiarum terrae illius illibata & integra conservare ; To subdue that people to Laws , and extirpate the plantations of Vices from thence ; and that he will pay to St. Peter the annual Pension of a Penny out of every House , and preserve the Rights of the Churches of that Land unprejudiced and entire ; Declares the Pope's approbation of that King 's attempting that Island , for enlarging the bounds of the Church , for restraining the course of Vices , for correcting their Manners , and sowing Virtues , for the encrease of the Christian Religion . And this Pope desires the King's purpose may take effect , for the Honour of God , and Salvation of that Land ; and that the People of that Land should receive him honourably , and reverence him as their Lord. Jure nimirum e contrario illibato & integro permanente , & salva B. Petro & S. R. E. de singulis domibus unius denarii pensione . The Right however remaining unprejudiced and entire , and saving to St. Peter , and the holy Church of Rome , the pension of a Penny out of every House . The Right of the Church was hereby reserv'd unprejudiced : the Recital seems to make it to relate to the particular Churches ; and this Mr. Molineux , if he please , may take to amount to such a Freedom , as exempted them from the Jurisdiction of the Pope , as well as of the See of Canterbury : but he may easily observe that the Superiority of both is fully reserved , and implied under jure illibato & integro permanente . It thus appearing , that this Gentleman had not attended to the true grounds of H. 2 d's Attempt upon Ireland , I shall consider what Submission the Irish made to him , and in what sense he and his Parliament took it . 'T is evident beyond contradiction , that they did not submit to him as to a King , whom they chose to govern according to their own Laws , but as one that imposed , and was to impose Laws upon them ▪ Of this Mr. Moline●x seems so much aware , that where he speaks of the submitting to H. 2. he only mentions the general terms of receiving him for King and Lord of Ireland , and swearing Allegiance to him and his Heirs , or the like : but the swearing to the Laws of England he places among the Con●essions ; as if they were no otherwise subject to them than the People of England . 'T is to be observed , for proof that the Submission was truly voluntary , and that there was such a Consent as is essential to the making Laws to bind Posterity ; that upon H. 2's landing at Waterford , several of the Irish Kings , and almost all the Nobility of Ireland flock'd in to him ; that the Archbishops , Bishops , and Abbats of all Ireland receiv'd him for King and Lord of Ireland , and swore to him and his Hei●s , binding themselves by their Charters to perpetual Allegiance ; and that after their example , and in like manner , the Kings and Princes there present receiv'd him for Lord and King of Ireland . Upon which I need not observe the known difference taken in Pliny , and other good Authors , between Dominus and Princeps ; since after this the King held a Council at Lismore , cited by this Gentleman in a wrong place . Ubi leges Angliae sunt ab omnibus gratanter receptae & juratoriâ cautione confirmatae . Where the Laws of England are thankfully received of all , and confirm'd by a juratory Caution . And for a farther Security , the King possest himself of several Cities and Castles , which he put into safe hands ; but of this Mr. M. takes no notice . As a cotemporary Exposition is ever of greatest Authority , let 's see whether the meaning of this was , that Ireland was to be governd by Parliaments of its own , as free and independent as England ; or that it should be governed by the Laws made , and to be made , by England . Mr. Molineux confesses , that H. II. within five years after his Return from Ireland created his younger Son John King of Ireland , at a Parliament held at Oxford : he might have learn'd from the same Authority , that in that Parliament he not only disposed of several petty Kingdoms there , to hold of him and John his Son , but Hoveden has these words , which comprehend Lands as well as Governments . Postquam autem Dominus Rex apud Oxenford , in praedicto modo , terras Hiberniae & earum servitia divisisset ; fecit omnes quibus earundem custodias commisserat , homines suos & Johannis filii sui devenire . But after the Lord the King had at Oxford , in manner aforesaid , divided the Lands of Ireland and their Services ; he caused all those , to whom he had committed the Custody of them , to do homage to him and his Son John , & to swear Allegiance and Fidelity to them . Bromton says ; Apud Oxoniam idem Rex Angliae Johannem filium snum , coram Episc . & regni sui Princip . Regem Hiberniae constituit . Et postea fecit quosdam familiares suos sibi & Johanni filio suo ligantias , fidelitates & homagia , contra omnes homines , facere & jurare . Quibus terras Hiberniae dedit & distribuit in hunc modum , &c. At Oxford the said King constituted his Son John King of Ireland , before the Bishops and Princes of his Kingdom . And afterwards he made some of his Courtiers to do and swear Allegiance , Fidelity , and Homage to himself and his Son John , against all men : To whom he gave and distributed the Lands of Ireland in this manner , &c. If what the King did in a Parliament was a Parliamentary Act , here was an Act of the English Parliament , which , by Mr. Molineux's Confession , impos'd a King upon Ireland , to whom they had not sworn any otherwise than as they swore to submit to the English Laws : and he should have observed , that herein , according to his own inference , of the making Ireland a separate Kingdom , the English Parliament undertook to discharge the Oath which the Irish had taken to be true to H. 2. and his Heirs ; and sutably to the Legislative Authority over Ireland in this Particular , the same Parliament at Oxford disposed of and distributed the Lands of Ireland , without expecting any Ratification from thence . Here 's a Parliamentary and cotemporary Exposition , of what this Gentleman calls the Original Compact between England and Ireland . I must agree , tho he has not observ'd it , that notwithstanding H. Il's Acquisition in Ireland , an Irish Native had quiet possession of a Kingdom which he seem'd to claim as chief King over the Irish . This was Roderic King of Connaught , who upon paying his Tribute , and performing his appointed Service , was , a according to Hoveden , to hold his Land as he held it before H. II. enter'd Ireland : which could not be true in a strict sense , unless he were dependent upon the Crown of England before ; and however , this was a Grant after a more absolute Acquisition : and b three years after , Girald holds , as do the Irish Statutes , that he had c conquer'd the whole Land of Ireland . d Abbat Benedict , an Author of that time , to be seen in the Cotton Library , speaking of H. II. says , Concedit Roderico ligio suo Regi Conautae , quamdiu ei fideliter serviet , ut sit Rex sub eo , paratus ad servitium suum : salvo in omnibus jure & honore Domini Regis Angliae , & suo . He grants to Roderic his Leige-man , King of Connaught , that as long as he faithfully served him , he should be a King under him , ready for his Service : saving in all things the Right and Honour of the Lord the King of England , and his . As it appears by Record , by the 7 th of King John , the King of Connaught had two thirds duly taken from him , for not performing his Service ; or else he never had more than a third of that Kingdom granted ; for then he acknowledged that he held a 3 d part in the name of a Barony , and for the other two thirds proffers the King , Duos Cantredos , cum Nativis eorundem Cantredorum , de praedictis duabus partibus , ad firmandum in eis , vel faciendum inde voluntatem suam . Two Cantreds , with the Natives of those Cantreds , to let 'em to farm , or to do with them what he pleased . Thus I take it , his Kingdom was as much dependent upon the Crown of England , as any Barony in Ireland , or England , and as subject to Forfeiture . And 't is probable , that this King was the head of the O Conoghors of Connaught , who are , 3 E. 2. admitted to be entituled to the English Law. But tho the Law of England was not current beyond the English Pale , or those Cantreds and Divisions of Irish , who continued under Obedience to the English ; yet the Crown of England has , from very antient times , not only laid claim to the Lordship over the whole Land of Ireland , but their Parliaments have recognized this Right more than once . Mr. M. if he had pleased , might have found , that Acts of Parliament made in Ireland lay a much earlier Foundation of the Right of the Crown of England to the Land of Ireland , even than our Confessor's Law does . A Statute made in Ireland , 1 Eliz among sundry Titles , which the antient Chronicles in the Latin , English and Irish Tongues , alledge for the Kings of England to the Land of Ireland , derives one from Gormond Son of Belin , King of Great Britain . This King our Historians call Gurgunstus , and is said to have reign'd in Great Britain 375 years before the Christian Aerd . Grafton , agreeing with the Irish Statute , tells us , that in his return from Denmark , he met with a Fleet of Spaniards , which were seeking for Habitations , to whom the King granted the Isle of Ireland to inhabit , and to hold of him as their Sovereign Lord. The Statute made in Ireland , 13 C. 2. recognizing his Title , has these words ; Recognitions of this nature may seem unnecessary where your Majesty's Title to this your Realm is so clear , as that it is avowed in sundry Acts of Parliament heretofore made within this Kingdom , in the times of your Majesty's Royal Progenitors of famous memory : and SO ANTIENT , AS IT IS DEDUCED NOT ONLY FROM THE DAYS OF KING H. 2. your Majesty 's Royal Ancestor , BUT FROM TIMES FAR MORE ANTIENT , AS BY SUNDRY AUTHENTICK EVIDENCES MENTIONED IN THE SAID ACTS , AND RECORDS OF THIS YOUR MAJESTY'S KINGDOM , MAY EVIDENTLY APPEAR . Since Mr. Molineux allows Acts of Parliament made in Ireland , to have full Authority ; I hope he will confess , that he has given a very imperfect and undue account how Ireland became a Kingdom annexed to the Crown of England ; and thus , not here to observe that he need not have gone so far back to shew how it first became a Kingdom , I think I have made it evident , that he has fail'd in his first Undertaking . 2. 'T will be as evident , that he is no less injurious to the Right of the English Nation , than unhappy in the comparison , where he maintains , that England may be said much more properly to be conquer'd by W. 1. than Ireland by H. 2. tho in this he has the Authority of Sir John Davis . I will agree , that the word Conquest was in the times both of W. 1. and H. 2. of a very innocent signification ; for which he rightly cites Sir Henry Spelman , and might have observed a much greater and antienter Authority , in a Record of the time of King John , referr'd to by a Mr. Petyt : wherein a younger Brother , in a Suit between him and his elder Brother about Title to Land , pleads , that his Father had it de Conquestu suo , and gave it him ; according to the distinction in Glanvil , who wrote in the time of H. 2. between b Questus , the same with Conquestus , and Haereditas . 'T is certain the word Conquestus did not in that age imply any thing of that Power , which a Prince or State might acquire , by Force or Terror of Arms , over another Prince or State ; and therefore I shall make no use of his Admission , that H. 2. took Conquestor Hiberniae into his stile , contrary to the Authority of c Mr. Selden , cited in his Margin , and to which I cannot but subscribe . In truth , tho d H. 2. was stiled Lord of Ireland , I am very well assured none can be found where he is stiled Conquestor . Yet Girald , an Author of that time , calls him , Triumphator Hiberniae , which is tantamount to Conqueror . But since Conquestor , when first used , signified no more than one who came to a Right which he claimed not by hereditary Descent ( according to which W. 1. acknowledged , that he was made or created King of the English by hereditary Right , that is , as has elsewhere been shewn , and may be more at large , was duly let in to the Inheritance of the Crown ) however the word Conquestor has been in following ages applied both to W. 1. and to H. 2. Let 's consider a little , 1. Whether the English Nation ever submitted to W. 1. as a Conqueror , in a sense of larger signification than 't was antiently used . 2. Whether the Irish Nation submitted to H. 2. or to any other of our Kings , more absolutely than the English did to W. 1. 1. Mr. Molineux agrees , that E. 3. was the first that us'd the Aera of post Conquestum ; which indeed was no more than to distinguish the Edwards after the time of W. 1. from the three Edwards which reign'd in England before that time : but no body that I know of , has yet pretended that W. 1. ever assumed the stile of Conqueror ; and I dare say , no one Author of that time , printed or in Manuscript , ascribes it to him . I must own in some of his Charters , he says , he gain'd the Kingdom by the Sword , having subdued Harold and his Accomplices : but besides that Puffendorf's Assertion is undeniable ; that after a Prince is overcome in a just War , till the Subjects consent , the State of War continues ; and there is no Obligation nor Faith , and so no Dominion ; W. 1. did not come to civilize and subdue the People to Laws , but to turn out , 1 st . An Usurper upon the Right of the People , upon whom he had imposed himself without any true Election , notwithstanding what several antient Authors have affirmed . And , 2 dly . An Usurper upon the Right which W. 1. had , by a full and a formal Election , he having been elected Successor in the life time of the Confessor : which I may hereafter shew , with all the Circumstances , but shall at present refer only to three Authorities out of many . William of Poictiers , an Author who lived in the very time , informs us , that the Confessor sent an Embassy into Normandy , suorum assensu , by the assent of his People ; to assure him of the Succession . And Ordericus Vitalis has these words . Edwardus nimirum propinquo suo W. D. N. primo per Rodbertum Cant. summum Pontisicem , postea per eundem Heraldum , integram Anglici regni mandaverat concessionem : ipsumque , concedentibus Anglis , fecerat totius juris sui haeredem . Edward sent an Embassy to William Duke of Normandy , first by Robert Archbishop of Canterbury , afterwards by Harold himself , acquainting him with the entire Grant of the Kingdom of England : and had made him Heir of all his Right , with the Consent of the English . Which shews in what sense Ingulph , who was Secretary to W. 1. is to be understood , when he says , Eum sibi succedere in regnum voce stabili sancivit . That the Confessor , with a stable Voice ordained , or appointed him to succeed him in his Kingdom . 'T is not to be questioned , but Ingulph who was an Anglo-saxon , and well knew that a King could not dispose of the English Crown , without the consent of the States of the Realm ; would be understood by this , that the Confessor's voice , or nomination , had a Parliamentary Sanction ; when one of the Norman writers looks upon Harold as a * mad-man , for not staying to see what a publick Election should determine . That W. 1. came only to turn out an Usurper , is not all : but having done this with a great force , the People of England would not receive him for King upon his Victory , till they had treated and agreed with him in a † Convention at Berkhamstead ; where , as Authors concur , foedus pepigit , he struck a League with them ; and was not only obliged to maintain the English Laws , in virtue of a mutual Contract : but part of the Contract with the 𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁 Prelats , and the Nobility of the Kingdom , was , That he should be crown'd as the manner of the English Government requires . From those Authors who give the heads of his Oath , administred by Aldred Archbishop of York , 't is plain , that he was crown'd according to the standing Ritual in use from the Coronation of King Ethelred , and continued to the Reign of H. 1. without any material alteration : And Authors , as well as the Ritual , shew , that the people were solemnly ask'd , whether they would have him to reign over them ? to which they exprest their consent , in such terms as implied a * Grant. But the Coronation Oath being only in general terms ; that King was obliged , once at least , if not oftner , to swear expresly , that they should enjoy the Benefit of the Confessor's Laws ; that Digest of so much of the common Law of England , as was in his time thought necessary to be reduced to writing ; to which some additions were made by that King in Parliament , for the benefit of the English . That there was nothing like this , in the submission of the people of Ireland to H. 2. has appeard above ; and that he acted according to the import of his stile , of Lord of Ireland , in imposing Laws , and a King upon ' em . And I would gladly know what Irish Laws and Customs he swore to maintain ? Tho , therefore , I am as avers to the common Notions of Conquest as this Gentleman , especially to the supposition , that God , in giving one Prince a Conquest over another , THEREBY puts one in possession of the others Dominions , and makes the other's Subjects become his Subjects , or his Slaves , as they come in , upon conditions , or at the will of the Conqueror : Yet I must desire Mr. M. to explain those Acts of Parliament made in Ireland , which not only seem to import , that the Crown and Kingdom of England , had made an absolute acquisition of the Land of Ireland , but use that scurvy word , Conquest . An Act , 28 H. 8. recites , That the King's Land of Ireland , heretofore being inhabired , and in d●e obedience unto the King 's most noble Progenitors , Kings of England , who , in the right of the Crown of England , had great Possessions , Rents , and Profits within the same Land ; had grown into great ruin and desolation , for that great Dominions ▪ Lands , and Possessions , had by the King's Grants , course of Descents , and otherwise , come to Noblemen of England , by whose negligence the wild Irish got into possession ; the Conquest , and winning whereof , in the beginning , not only cost the King 's noble Progenitors , but also those to whom the Lands belong'd , charges inestimable : and tho the King's English Subjects had valiantly opposed the Irish , yet upon their absenting themselves again out of Ireland , the Natives , from time to time , usurped and encroached upon the King's Dominions ; and particularly that the Earl of Kildare , with his accomplices , endeavour'd to take the Land of Ireland out of the King's possession , and his Heirs thereof for ever to disherit . For these , and divers other hurts and enormities , like to ensue to the Commonweal of the Island ; in respect of the inestimable Charges which the King had sustained , and apparently had occasion to sustain for , and about the conquest , and recontinuance of the same , out of his Enemies possession ; tho the King had right to all the Lands and Possessions there referr'd to , and tho he might justly insist upon the Arrears of two parts of the Land of those who had absented themselves , which might amount to more than the purchase of 'em ; it vests in the King and his Heirs , as in the Right of the Crown of England , only the Lands of some particular persons . The Stature of the Queen attainting Shane Oneile , speaks of populous , rich , and well-govern'd Regions , wealthy Subjects , beautiful Cities , and Towns , of which the Imperial Crown of England had , before that time , been conveniently furnished , within the Realm of Ireland ; which after being lost , had been recontinued to the Queen 's quiet possession . But the Rebel , Shane Oneile , refusing the name of a Subject , and taking upon him , as it were , the Office of a Prince , had enterprized great Stirs , Insurrections , and horrible Treasons , against her Majesty , her Crown , and Dignity ; imagining to deprive her Highness , her Heirs and Successors , from the real and actual possession of her Kingdom of Ireland , her true , just , and ancient Inheritance to her , by sundry Descents , and authentick strong Titles , rightfully and lawfully devolved . And having mention'd a Title from Gurmond the Son of Belin , King of Great Britain , says , Another Title is , as the Clerk Giraldus Cambrensis writeth at large , of the History of the Conquest of Ireland , by King H. 2. your famous Progenitor . The Title to the Land then recognized , was abundantly strengthned and confirmed by Irish Parliaments in the time of J. 1. and since . In the Act of Recognition to J. 1. they tell him , of his having quench'd the most dangerous and universal Rebellion , that ever was rais'd in that Kingdom ; in the suppressing whereof , the unreform'd parts of the Land , which being rul'd by Irish Lords and Customs , had never before receiv'd the Laws and civil Government of England , were so broken and reduced to Obedience , that all the Inhabitants thereof did gladly submit themselves to his Highness's ordinary Laws and Magistrates : which gave unto his Majesty a more entire , absolute , and actual possession , than ever any of his Progenitors had . All Ireland being thus brought into subjection to the Crown and Laws of England ; K. James taking notice of Laws which had been made * after the Conquest of that Realm by his Progenitors Kings of England , to keep up the distinction between the English and the Natives of the Irish Blood ; that he had then taken 'em all into his protection , and that they lived under one Law , as dutiful Subjects of their Sovereign Lord and Monarch , repeals those dividing Laws . After this the Irish Parliament * granted C. 1. four Subsidies , rightly considering the vast , and almost infinite expence of Men , Mony , Victuals , and Arms , sent out of England thither , by the King and his Royal Progenitors , for reducing that Kingdom into the happy condition wherein it then stood . And sutably to the import of the word Conquest , Acts of Parliament of that Kingdom , in the Reign of that King , shew that the Titles to Lands of the English Plantation , or which they from time to time gain'd from the Irish , were enjoy'd by Grants from the Crown : and for securing the Estates to Vndertakers , Servitors , Natives , and others , all the Lands in several Counties , commonly call'd Plantation Lands , were vested in the King , his Heirs and Successors , in right of the Imperial Crown of England and Ireland . The Stat. 14 & 15 C. 2. holds the Irish Rebels to be subdued and conquer'd Enemies , and therefore vests all their Lands in the Crown of England , in order to make satisfaction to the Protestant Adventurers , for the reducing that Kingdom to its due obedience , and to enable the Crown to extend Grace to such as should be held deserving of it ; Reprisals being first made to the Protestant Proprietors . Tho , therefore , I am far from admiring the Lord Coke's reasoning in Calvin's Case ; I may here subjoin part of Mr. M's reflection upon him , and refer him to the Irish Acts of Parliament to qualify his Censure of the Ld Coke's restriction of the Opinion in the Year-book , 2 R. 2. that the Irish are not bound by Statutes made in England , because they have no Knights of Parliament here ; which , says the Lord Coke , is to be understood , unless they be specially named . To this assertion Mr. Molineux admits he gives colour of reason , by saying , That tho Ireland be a distinct Dominion from England , yet the Title thereof being by Conquest , the same by Judgment of Law , might by express words be bound by the Parliaments of England . To confound the Lord Coke , I would fain know , says this Gentleman , what the Lord Coke means by Judgment of Law : Whether he means the Law of Nature and Reason , or of Nations , or the Civil Laws of our Common-wealths ? For answer to which I need at present only ask him , what sort of Law he takes the above-cited Statutes of Ireland to be ? and shall afterwards shew that they have all along submitted to such a Conquest , or Acquisition , as gives a Right to the imposing of Laws . 3. But since he is pleas'd to say , As Scotland , tho the King's Subjects , claims an exemption from all Laws but what they assent to in Parliament ; so we think this our Right also : and going upon the supposition of Ireland , being a Kingdom as distinct from England as Scotland , he frames an Objection , that however they may be restrain'd by War from doing what may be to the prejudice of England , the stronger Nation : If this may be , he asks , why does it not operate in the same manner between England and Scotland , and consequently in like manner draw after it England's binding Scotland by their Laws at Westminster ? As to Scotland , not here to enter into the Dispute between the Lord Coke and the rest of the Judges , who resolv'd Calvin's Case , and the House of Commons of that time ; nor yet , into the Question concerning the Scotch Homage , whether 't was for the Kingdom of Scotland , or only for some Lands which their Kings held of the Crown of England : 'T is enough to observe , that during the Heptarchy here we often had one King , who was Rex primus , to whom the others were Homagers , and obedient in the Wars for common Defence of the Island ; yet each King had his distinct Regalities , and the Countrys their several Laws and Customs , and distinct Legislatures for Lands , and other Rights and Things within themselves . This 't was easy to conceive that Scotland had ; and thus , both there and here , under the Heptarchy , the several Kingdoms , notwithstanding Homage to one King who had the Primacy , were under separate Allegiances , as the respective Subjects were not bound to the same Laws ; tho the States of the Kingdom did Homage as well as the King. When the Right to the Crown of Scotland came afterwards in J. 1. to be in the same Person who had the Crown of England , and that without any new Acquisition by the Crown or Kingdom of England , there was a no merger of the less Crown : and 't is certain that in the Judgment of Law , Palatinates fallen to the Crown continue distinct Royalties . But if , for the keeping a Kingdom distinct , whether in the Person of the same King , or as an Appendant to his Imperial Crown b , a distinct Legislature is necessary as well as a distinct Jurisdiction ; then Wales , which in many of our Statutes is call'd a Dominion , was no distinct Dominion , or Principality ; if it at any time continued in the Crown , without having Parliaments of their own , or being represented here , by Members of their own chusing ▪ but thus it was with Wales from the 12 th c of E. 1. to the 34 th of H. 8. in right of E. 1 st's Conquest , as Sir John Davis , or the Judges in his time call the Acquisition of that Dominion ; and as 't is there ; E. 1. changed their Laws and Customs as he had express'd in his Charter , or the Statute of Rutland which follows : Divinâ providentiâ terram Walliae cum incolis suis prius nobis jure feodali subjectam , in proprietatis nostrae dominium totaliter & cum integritate convertit , & coronae regni nostrae annexit . By the Divine Providence the Land of Wales , with its Inhabitants , before subject to us by feudal Right , we have turn'd wholly and entirely into the Dominion of our Propriety , and annexed it to the Crown of our Kingdom . And as to their Laws and Customs ; Quasdam de consilio procerum regni nostri delevimus , quasdam permisimus , quasdam correximus , ac etiam quasdam alias adjiciendas & faciendas decrevimus . Some , by the Counsel of the Peers of our Kingdom , we have abrogated , some we have permitted , some we have corrected , and besides some others we have added and decreed to be put in execution . Here is a Title , understood at that time , of taking a Forfeiture for Rebellion against the Lord of the Fee ; and in consequence of this the King and his Peers , in Parliaments , took upon them to exercise a Legislative Power over Wales . But notwithstanding that Wales was thus united and annexed to the Imperial Crown of England , and absolutely subjected to its Legislature , yet , as is held in Davis's Reports , this Principality of Wales , not being govern'd by the common Law , was a Dominion by it self , and had its proper Laws and Customs . That Report shews Wales , by reason of these different Laws and Customs , to be more distinct and separate from the Kingdom of England , than Ireland is ; and that a Tenure of the Prince of Wales should not after its reduction under the Subjection of England , become a Tenure of the Crown in chief , but that it should be so in relation to Tenures of a County Palatine in Ireland , as well as England , because such a County in either Land was originally a parcel of the Realm , and derived from the Crown , and was always govern'd by the Law of England ; and the Lands there were held by Services and Tenures , of which the common Law takes notice , altho the Lords have a separate Jurisdiction , and Seigniory separate from the Crown . But that Tenure in Chief in Ireland , as well as England , could be no other than of the Crown of England , appears not only by the Grants to the Electors Palatine , or Lords Marchers of Ireland , but in that Ireland was not raised into a Kingdom till H. 8's time . The mention of Palatinates may well occasion a Comparison between the Land of Ireland , and the County Palatine of Chester , a distinct Royalty in the Principality of Wales : that had its Parliaments within it self , as 't is very probable , from before the time of W. 1. it being certain , that Hugh Lupus enjoyed that Earldom by Judgment of the Lords , if not the Great Council in the time of W. 1. and their Parliaments may be traced from within the time of H. 3. downwards to their first having Representatives in Parliaments of the Kingdom , 34 H. 8. Their provincial Parliaments were chiefly , if not only , for the granting Aids to the Crown : but notwithstanding their being represented in Parliaments at home , yet Laws were made here in the superior Parliament , for the governing the Inhabitants of the County of Chester . Now , without considering whether Cheshire was a Colony from England , or from Wales , or mix'd , or else a place exempt without regard to the being any Colony ; I may well hold , that tho from before the time of W. 1. they had the privilege of being tax'd only by themselves , or with their own Consent : yet their Parliament was subordinate to the Great Council of the Kingdom of England ; and 't was no violation of the Right of their Parliament , for the National Council to give them Laws for their better Government , and to restrain 'em from acting to the prejudice of the Crown and Kingdom of England : neither was this any diminution to the Prerogative of the Crown . The instance of Chester I may well bring to this point , being authorized by the Learned Judg Shardlow in the time of E. 2. In an Action of Debt in the King's-Bench here , upon a Bond seal'd at Chester , that learned Judg says ; Chester is out of our Jurisdiction here , insomuch that there is not any Minister in that County answerable here for what he has done . Of a Deed done out of the Jurisdiction here , or out of the Realm , as at Paris , or elsewhere beyond Sea , I ought not to answer . The Counsel urges , that the Power here extends throughout the Realm of England , and to a Deed done within the Realm of England you ought to answer ; and Chester is within England . But Shardlow insists upon his former Judgment , and adds , IRELAND IS WITHIN THE REALM ; and to a Deed committed there , I shall not answer here . Also Duresm is within England , yet I shall not answer at all here ; because the Court cannot try the Fact if denied . This shews plainly , that at that time Ireland was as much part of this Realm as Chester ; that the distinction of Jurisdictions was not for want of Superiority . This has been maintain'd over * Chester and Ireland , by Writs of Error upon Judgments in Law. The reason of which is given by Chief † Justice Vaughan , that otherwise they may insensibly alter the Law appointed , or permitted , or give judgment to the lessening the Superiority . Mr. Molineux will have it , th● ▪ * this removal of a Judgment from the King's Bench of Ireland , by Writ of Error , into the King's Bench of England , dos not infer the subordination of Ireland to the Kingdom of England ; but that this was a method appointed by an Act of Parliament of Ireland , which is lost among a great number of other Acts which they want for the space of 130 years at one time , and 120 a● another . 'T is easily supposed by him , that they had Parliaments of their own for the most of those times ; but others will believe that they were generally governed by the Laws of England , according to the Tenour of their submission to H. 2. and the interpretation then put upon that submission . But methinks the force of his Argument , in relation to the ordinary Jurisdictions the King's Bench of England exercises over that of Ireland , is not to be fear'd . He is pleased to say , erroneous Judgments might have been removed from England into the King's Court in Ireland , for so certainly it must be since the Court travelled with the King. For which I need only mind him of his own quotation of * Sir Pembrough's Case : according to which , for the King to have required the attendance there of the Tenants in chief , who were the Judges in his Court here , would have bin a banishment : But 't is certain this could be no part of their Duty declared by the constitutions of Clarendon , 10 H. 2. in affirmance of the antient customs of the Realm of England , under that clause which requires 'em to be at the Trials and Judgments of the King's Courts . Besides , I shall shew , that the King's Court in England ( which when not meant of the Parliament , did manifestly in those antient times relate either to a Counsel chosen in Parliament , and acting out of it by Authority from thence , or to the Body of the Tenants in chief , the Great Lords , for whose easing themselves of such troublesome attendances , the later Jurisdiction of the present King's Bench has sprung up ) was possess'd of the Superiority of ordinary Jurisdiction over Ireland , before Mr. M. can shew that they had any Acts made in Ireland of any kind , except that wherein they first gave themselves up to obey and depend on the English Legislature ; and unless they can produce Acts of their Parliaments for raising Aids to the Crown of England . In * the 37 th of H. 3. one Baret complain'd to the King of injustice done him by Justices itinerant at Limbrick . Upon which the Justices of Ireland were commanded to send the Record before the King. Where the Record was commanded hither , per saltum , without any regard to the King's Bench of Ireland . And another Record in the same Year before Shardlow , and other Justices at Dublin , as I take it , of the Common Pleas there , was , by Writ of Error from hence , transmitted to the Justice of Ireland : Without which it seems he was then held to have no Authority to proceed in Ireland . In the 20 th of E. 1. a Writ of Error had removed out of Ireland a Record of a Judgment of Felony : Which , indeed , was remanded ; not for want of Jurisdiction to correct the Error of the Judges in Ireland : But , 1. Because there was no notice to the King's Attorney General for Ireland : or at least , he did not attend . 2. Because 't was a question of Fact. Quia nullus venit ex parte Regis ad sequendum pro ipso , qui veritatem sciverit , ideo haec non potest ad examinationem ; set magis expedit domino Regi , quòd in partibus Hiberniae , ubi feloniae praed . perpetrari debent , examinentur , & modo debito terminentur . Because no body who may know the truth , comes of the part of the King to prosecute for him : Therefore this cannot proceed to examination : but 't is expedient for the King , that the said Felonies should be examined , and duly determined in Ireland , where the said Felonies are suppos'd to have been committed . However Mr. M. conceives it manifest , that the Jurisdiction of the King's Bench in England over a Judgment in the King's Bench of Ireland , dos not proceed from any subordination of one Kingdom to the other ; because the Judges in England ought , and always do judg according to the Laws and Customs of Ireland , and not according to the Laws and Customs of England , any otherwise than as these may be of force in Ireland . But , 1. 'T is evident that the Judges neither will , nor can judg according to any Law or Custom of Ireland , which is contrary to the Rules of our Law , or which has not been allowed there as no way prejudicial to the Law here : According to his instance of a Declaration for an Acre of Bog , a word not known in England ; but well enough understood in Ireland . Which I may answer with a parallel case lately adjudged in the Exchequer of England . One having spoken scandalous welsh words in Wales , or in a part of England where the Welsh Tongue is used , was libel'd against in the Ecclesiastical Court there : Upon which the Court of Exchequer was moved for a Prohibition , because the Words were insensible , and of no signification : But no Prohibition was granted , because they were understood where they were spoken . And thus 't is in relation to the particular Instances of Mannors , or inferiour Courts . Therefore , 2. By the same reason , that the judging according to the Law used in Ireland would imply , that there is no Subordination , 't will follow that the Inferior Courts in England are not subordinate to the Courts of Westminster-Hall : and I may add , neither is the King's Bench of England subordinate to the House of Lords . As to the question of their Jurisdiction , occasioned , as Mr. M's * Margin has it , by the Case of the Bishop of Derry , I need say little here , referring him to the Judgment of the Lords , and to that exercice of the Judicial Power , which I shall have an opportunity of shewing in the Reign of E. 1. But as to his supposed clear Argument against the subordination , from the Lords doing nothing upon the Petition of the Prior of Lanthony , who appeal'd to the Parliament of England , from a refusal of the King's Bench here to meddle with a Judgment which had pass'd in the Parliament of Ireland : 'T will admit of several Answers ; 1. This came not before the Lords by Writ of Error , or by Appeal from the Lords of Ireland ; but was a complaint of the King's Bench here . 2. This was after the Charter which I shall afterwards shew , placing a judicial Power to some Purposes in their Parliaments : But whether they exceeded that Authority , 't was not for the King's Bench to judg , but for that Power from whence their Charter was derived . 3. This Petition seems either to have come too late , or to have been waved : for if it had fallen under consideration , 't is probable that some Answer to it could have been endors'd , as was usual in former times . But that the ordinary Jurisdiction both of the Lords in Parliament , and of the King's-Bench here , is but an incident to the Superiority of the Crown of England , will be much clearer than any thing Mr. M. has urged . And whatever Mr. M. conceives , the Annexation of Ireland to the Crown of England , will sufficiently manifest the Subordination ; tho he , supposing that this was done by the Irish Statute , which annexes it as a Kingdom , with others which declare it annex'd as a Land or Dominion of a lower Character , conceives little more is effected by these Statutes , than that Ireland shall not be aliened or separated from the King of England , who cannot hereby dispose of it , otherwise than in legal Succession along with England ; and that whoever is King of England , is ipso facto King of Ireland . But if these Statutes , bating the name of Kingdom ( which the Parliament of England afterwards gave them ) are only declaratory of the antient Right of the Crown of England ; then I may well hold , that there is not so much effected by these Statutes , as he yields , it being only the operation of Law. And if by operation of Law a King of England , tho not succeeding by a strict Right of Descent , but by the Choice or Declaration of the States of this Realm is ipso facto King or Lord of Ireland , I would gladly know how that Kingdom or Land , which he owns to be thus inseparably annex'd to the Imperial Crown of England , can be a compleat Kingdom ? And since he is pleas'd to ask , whether multitudes of Acts of Parliament , both of England and Ireland , have not declared Ireland a compleat Kingdom ? and whether 't is not stiled in them all , the Kingdom or Realm of Ireland ? I would entreat the favour of him , to shew me one Act of Parliament of either Kingdom , which says , or all Circumstances consider'd implies , that Ireland is a compleat Kingdom : or that ever any Parliament of their own held it to be advanced to the Dignity of a Kingdom , before 33 H. 8. tho , as they acknowledg , the Kings of England had Kingly Power there long before . I must own , that as the name of King was in H. 8's time thought requisite to charm the wild Irish into Obedience ; so in Queen a Elizabeth's time , Imperial Crown was thought to make a conquering Sound : but this was never ascribed to it by any Parliament of England● nor , that I can find , even of Ireland , before her Reign or since . But the one Imperial Crown , upon which Ireland has been , and still is , dependent , is the Crown of England : sor this the Statute of Ireland , before that was made a Kingdom , is express , having these words ; Calling to our remembrance the great Divisions which in time past have been , by reason of several Titles pretended to the Imperial Crown of the Realm of England , whereunto this your Land of Ireland is appending , and belonging . So another in the same Year . Forasmuch as this Land of Ireland is depending , and belonging , justly and rightfully to the Imperial Crown of England ; it enacts , that the King , his Heirs and Successors , Kings of the Realm of England , and Lords of this said Land of Ireland , shall have and enjoy , annexed and united to the Imperial Crown of England , all Honours , Dignities , Pre-eminencies and Authorities , &c. belonging to the Church of Ireland . If Mr. Molineux observes duly , Ireland has all these Imperial Rights declared in the Irish Statute , 33 H. 8. c ▪ 1. but I cannot find by what Rule he insers this from an Act of Parliament , which is express , that the King of England shall have the Name , Stile , Title and Honour of King of Ireland , with all manner of Preheminencies , &c. as united and knit to the Imperial Crown of the Realm of England . Indeed it shews , that under the name of Lord , the King had the same Authority ; but the name of King was thought likely to be more prevalent with the Irish Men , and Inhabitants within that Realm . The Statute , 11 Jac. 1. declares him King of England , Scotland , France , and Ireland , by God's Goodness , and Right of Descent under one Imperial Crown . And the Statute , 10 C. 1. calls this the Imperial Crown of England and Ireland : And indeed Mr. Molineux would do well to shew that ever any of our Kings took any Coronation Oath for Ireland , otherwise than as Kings of England . And yet I know not what he may do when his hand 's in ; since he has the Art to transubstantiate their Recital of an Act of Parliament in England , which declares that Popes had usurped an Authority in derogation of the Right of the Imperial Crown of the Realm of England ; recognizing no Superiour under God but only the King , and being free from Subjection to any Man's Laws , but only such as have been devised , made and ordain'd within the Realm of England ; or to such other as , by sufferance of the King and his Progenitors , the People of the Realm of England had taken at their free Liberty , by their own Consent , to be used among them , and have bound themselves by long Custom to the observance of the same ; To infer that 't is thus with Ireland , because the enacting part of that Statute which has this Recital is promulged for a Law in Ireland , is to suppose Ireland to be turned into England ; and that the Commissioners , who are by virtue of that Act and the Great Seal , to exercise that Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction which the Statute in England placed in the See of Canterbury , are become English Archbishops . And with the like way of reasoning he would infer , that Acts of Recognition in England are of no Force in Ireland , till the Irish have recognized the same King ; and yet confesses , That whoever is King of England is ipso facto King of Ireland , and the Subjects are obliged to obey him as their Leige Lord : That they in Ireland are so annexed to England , that the Kings and Queens of England are by undoubted Right ipso facto Kings and Queens of Ireland . To use Mr. M's own Expression , I am sure there 's an end of all Speech , if he does not confess , that a Prince rightfully possest of the English Throne , is thereby King of Ireland , before any Recognition made by a Parliament there : and yet not withstanding this generous Concession , he immediately subjoins ; And from hence we may reasonably conclude , that if any Acts of Parliament made in England should be of force in Ireland , before they are receiv'd there in Parliament , they should be more especially such Acts as relate to the Succession and Settlement of the Crown , and Recognition of the King's Title thereto , and the Power and Jurisdiction of the King. And yet we find in the Irish Statutes , 28 H. 8. c. 2. An Act for the Succession of the King , and Queen Ann. And another , c. 5. declaring the King to be supreme Head of the Church of Ireland . Both which Acts had formerly pass'd in the Parliament of England . So likewise we find amongst the Irish Statutes , Acts of Recognition of the King's Title to Ireland in the Reigns of H. 8. Queen Elizabeth , King Charles 2. K. William and Q. Mary : by which it appears , that Ireland , tho annexed to the Crown of England , has always been look'd upon to be a Kingdom compleat within it self , and to have all Jurisdiction to an absolute Kingdom , belonging , and subordinate to no Legislative Authority on Earth . Tho 't is to be noted , those English Acts relating to the Succession and Recognition of the King's Title , do particularly name Ireland . Before I enter into the enquiry how this can be made consistent with a Kingship ipso facto before the Recognition in Ireland ; 't will be requisite to inform him , that we have had Settlements of the Crown by Acts of Parliament here , which never were formally received by any Parliament in Ireland ; and yet such Act of Parliament here has ever been held to bind Ireland , tho 't was not expresly named ; and that tho the Settlement has carried the Crown from the elder Branch of the Royal Family : for instance , 7 H. 4. at the request of the Lords and Commons in Parliament , 't was enacted , That the Inheritance of the Crown and of the Realms of England and France , and of all other the King's Seigniories or Lordships beyond Sea , with the appurtenances , be put and remain in the Person of the said King , and the Heirs of his Body issuing ; and 't was ordain'd , established , pronounced , expressed , and declared , that Prince Henry , the King 's eldest Son , be Heir apparent , to succeed him in the said Crown , Realms , and Seigniories ; to have them with all their Appurtenances , after the King's decease to the Prince and the Heirs of his Body ; with Remainders over , to the King 's 2 d and 3 d Sons , and the Heirs of their respective Bodies successively . And according to this Form 1 H. 7. 't was ordain'd , established , and enacted , by Authority of Parliament , that the Inheritances of the Crowns of the Realms of England and France , with all the preheminence and dignity Royal to the same appertaining , and all other Seigniories belonging to the King beyond Sea , with the Appurtenances in any manner due to them , or appertaining , do stand and remain in the most noble Person of their said Sovereign Lord H. 7. and the Heirs of his Body lawfully issuing for ever , with the Grace of God to endure , and in no other Persons . Not to trouble Mr. M. with an enquiry , whether these , or any other Acts of Parliament in England of former Reigns , united Ireland to England , otherwise than as they declared their intention for that Seigniory , or Dominion , to go along with the Government of England ; or what Act of Parliament in Ireland , since the first submission to H. 2. created an Annexation of the Land of Ireland to the Crown of England ; I must entreat him to explain , How it should come to pass , that the King of England , ipso facto , by his being made King here , is King of Ireland ; and yet that those Acts of Parliament here , by which the King is declared King , without and against a strict courst of descent , are of no force till the King is recognized by Act of Parliament in Ireland ? If a King of England , as such , is ipso facto King of Ireland , is he not so before any Act of Recognition there ? And if so , what can that , or other Acts repeating the Laws made in England , signify more , than a full publication of what was the Law before ? If the Election , or Declaration of a King , by a Parliament in England , gives a Law in this matter to Ireland ; and such a King is to be obey'd by virtue of that Law , ipso facto , before he is received and acknowledged by a Parliament in Ireland ; do their subsequent Recognitions in the least infer that Ireland is a compleat Kingdom ? Is it any better than a Contradiction to hold , that a King of England , as created or declared in a Parliament of England , is thereby , or at the same instant , King of Ireland ; and yet that Ireland is a Kingdom so compleat in it self , that he is no King till the Act of Parliament creating or declaring him King , is confirm'd by a Parliament in Ireland ? Or take it the other way ; No Act of Parliament in England is of any force till confirmed in Ireland ; and yet a King declared by a Parliament of England , tho he was not King before such declaration , is thereby , or ipso facto , King of Ireland : that is , an Act of Parliament of England is not of force in Ireland till confirm'd there ; and yet 't is of force ipso facto by the being enacted here . Does it not therefore follow , that such an annexation of Ireland to the Crown of England , as makes the King of England , ipso facto King of Ireland , destroys the supposition that their Parliaments have Authority to confirm or reject Laws made by the Legislature in England ? Or otherwise , that the supposition of such an Authority in the Parliament of Ireland , destroys that annexation which Mr. M. himself yields ? Further yet 't will appear , that , even after a Parliament of Ireland had , as far as it could , annex'd that Land , as a Kingdom , to the Imperial Crown of England ; an Annexation here was requisite , for the ratifying what had been done in Ireland . Therefore , 34 and 35 H. 8. an Act was made by the Parliament of England , for ratification of the King's Majesty's Stile ; by the King , with the assent of the Lords Spiritual , and Temporal , and the Commons in that Parliament assembled , and by the Authority of the same , enacting that all and singular his Grace's Subjects , and Resiants , of or within this his Realm of England , Ireland , and elsewhere , with other his Majesty's Dominions , from thenceforth accept and take the King's Stile , in manner and form following . H. 8. by the Grace of God , King of England , France , and Ireland , Defender of the Faith , and of the Church of England , and also of Ireland , in Earth the supream Head. And 't is enacted , that the said stile shall be from thenceforth , by the Authority aforesaid , united , and annexed , to the Imperial Crown of his Highness's Realm of England . This related to all Ecclesiastical Power , as well as Civil , in Ireland , as well as England : In pursuance of this the Statute 1 Eliz. for the extinguishing all usurped , and Foreign Power , and Authority , Spiritual and Temporal , which had been used within this Realm , or any other her Majesty's Dominions , or Countries , enacts , That no Foreign Prince , or Prelat , shall enjoy any Power , Jurisdiction , Superiority , Authority , or Privilege , Spiritual , or Ecclesiastical , within this Realm , or within any other her Majesty's Dominions , or Countries ; but that such Power , &c. shall be abolished out of this Realm , and all other her Highness's Dominions : And that all Power of visiting and correcting for Heresies & Schism , &c. shall for ever , by Authority of that Parliament , be united and annexed to the Imperial Crown of this Realm : Ecclesiastics were to swear that they would maintain all such Jurisdiction , Privileges , Preeminence and Authority , as granted or belonging to the Queen's Highness , her Heirs and Successors , or united to the Imperial Crown of the Realm . And the Queen is impowred to issue out Commissions for the executing that Act. This Statute bound Ireland , by plain intention , as that 34 and 35 H. 8. did in express words . But Mr. M. will have it a mighty Argument , that this was of no force in Ireland , till received by a Parliament there : because after it had bin repealed in England by one Act , and another since the Revolution has declared such Commissions to be illegal ; yet the Chancellor , and others in Ireland , have held it to be still in force there . But , 1. He ought to have shewn that the Statute here , repealing so much of the Statute of the Queen , as plainly exprest an intention , that no such Commission should be granted in Ireland , as the Statute of the Queen did , that Ireland should be subject to the same Ecclesiastical Authority , and in the same manner that England was : nor is it to any purpose for him to cite the Declarations in the late Statute of the illegality of such Commissions ; unless that Act had damn'd such Commissions , not only as being contrary to the Act of Repeal , but not to be warranted by the Statute of the Queen : but then this would have condemned the Resolution which he cites , of the Authority of such Commissions still in Ireland . 2. Admit Mr. M. should prove , that the Statute made in England , taking away the Authority of such Ecclesiastical Commissions here , as plainly intended to reach Ireland , 't will afterwards appear , that unless Mr. M. shew , that this Act had been transmitted to Ireland , under the Great Seal of England ; the supposition that such Commissions may still be legally executed in Ireland , will not in the least derogate from the Authority of the Parliament of England . 3 dly , But how contrary his supposal of an independent Authority in the Parliament of Ireland , is not only to the Laws of reasoning , but the Authorities of all times , from H. 2. downwards , has already appeared in some measure ; and may farther by some Authorities out of many , which will manifest , that the Rights of the Crown of England to impose Laws upon Ireland , by virtue of prior submissions and consent , is so far from being departed from , that 't is strengthned and confirmed , by long exercice and submission to it . Mr. M. considering the State of the Statute ▪ Laws of England , under H. 2. King John , and H. 3. agrees , That by the Irish voluntary submission to , and acceptance of the Laws of England , we must repute them to have submitted themselves to these likewise , till a regular Legislature was established among them , in pursuance of that voluntary submission , and voluntary acceptance . Yet he soon forgets this Concession , and would have it , that the men of Ireland were not bound by new Laws , but that the Grants of Liberties from Edward the Confessor's time , down to H. 3. were only declaratory Laws , and confirmations one of another ; and that thus Ireland came to be govern'd by one and the same common Law with England . I must confess I could not but smile at his Marginal Note upon the proceedings of the Parliament at Oxford in the Reign of H. 2. by this Ireland made an absolute separate Kingdom : And in the Body of his Book he says , We shall observe that by this donation of the Kingdom of Ireland to King John , Ireland was most eminently set apart again as a separate and distinct Kingdom by it self , from the Kingdom of England ; and did so continue until the Kingdom of England descended and came unto King John. But to help him to understand this matter , I shall mind him of another passage in Hen. II's Reign . As he placed his Son John in Ireland , he , to secure the Succession of the Imperial Crown of England to his eldest Son Henry , caused him , in a * Parliament , to be chosen and made King of England , while Henry the Father was alive . Now , did the Father by this , separate England from his own Jurisdiction ? No , certainly ; and indeed , in the Oath to the Son , and the homage perform'd , both at the Coronation and afterwards , by the King of Scots , there was a particular saving of the Allegiance and Homage due to the Father . Thus both Hoveden and Bromton shew that 't was , in relation to the constituting John King of Ireland , as they call him : they are express , that they to whom the Lands of Ireland were distributed , in that very Parliament which gave John his Office and Authority , were sworn to the Father and the Son. And Mr. M. might have observ'd , that a Charter pass'd in that Parliament , and cited by Sir John Davis , grants to Hugh de Lacy large Territories in the County of Methe , to hold of H. 2. and his Heirs . Whereas if Ireland had been given , as Mr. M. will have it , to John , and that thereby 't was made an absolute Kingdom , separate and wholly independent on England ; The Tenure must have been of John and his Heirs . * The Oath of Allegiance , which in those days used to have no mention of Heirs , was to H. 2. as King of England , and went along with the Crown ; but the Tenure reserved , was expresly to the Heirs of H. 2. which must relate to the legal Successors to the Crown of England ; since as King he could have no other Heir . But as this may manifest , that the Parliament which made John King of Ireland , design'd him no more than a subordinate and vicarious Authority ; 't is plain he himself did not think he had more : in the Seal which he used , he stiled himself Son * of the King , Lord , or who is Lord , of Ireland . Nor is there the least footstep of any Coronation Oath taken by John as King of Ireland ; or that he ever wore an Irish Crown . Notwithstanding that share in the Government of Ireland which John had in his Father's life-time ; Ireland upon the Father's death fell to R. 1. and the Archbishop of Dublin was assisting at his first Coronation , before he went to the Holy War : Nor did John ever pretend to be King of Ireland , while R. 1. lived , more than of England ; which having attempted , while his Brother was in Foreign parts far remote ; upon his Brother's return , he was , by * Parliament , deprived of all his Honours , and Fortune : And thus , at least , he lost his suppos'd Royalty of Ireland , if it did not expire upon the death of H. 2. and this shews how rightly Polidore judged , in calling him b Regulus , or Viceroy . I will therefore admit Mr. M's supposal , that R. 1. c had not died without Issue , but his Progeny had sat on the Throne of England , in a continued succession to this day ; but cannot admit the other part of his supposal , that the same had been in relation to the Throne of Ireland ; since John never had such Throne , either before he was King of England , nor after : and therefore I may well conclude , that the subordination of Ireland to the Parliament , or even to the King of England , need not arise from any thing that followed after the descent of England to King John. Nor indeed was John King , either of England or Ireland , by descent ; but that Election of the States of the Kingdom of England , which made him their King , preferring him before Arthur an elder Brother's Son , drew after it the Lordship of Ireland , as an Appendant to the Crown of England : And however , if H. 2. had not sufficiently brought the Irish under the English Laws , John did after he came to be King of England . In the 9 th of his Reign , he a imposed Laws upon them in a Parliament of England ; not indeed without the desire and counsel of such English Lords who had Lands in Ireland ; but then their consent would have been involved in the consent of the majority here , tho those Lords should have expresly dissented : But the Authority was derived from the consent of the King 's faithful People , which is mentioned as distinct from the desire or petition , which occasioned the Law then made in a Parliament of England ; for the expelling Thieves and Robbers out of the King's Land of Ireland . For the effectual execution of this Act of Parliament , King John's Expedition seems to have been undertaken the next year , when he b entirely subdu'd his Enemies ; and c confiscated the Estates of some of the English great Men in Ireland : Which Confiscation seems to have been after his return to England ; but before that , or at some other time in his Reign , he made a Law in Ireland , which he commanded to be observed there , That * all the Laws and Customs which are in force in England , should be in force in Ireland ; and that Land be subject to the same Laws , and be govern'd by them . This was before any pretence to their having any Charter for a Parliament , other than the supposed sending over the modus tenendi Parl. by H. 2. and is before the time that Mr. M. † takes a regular Legislature to have been established among them : Therefore according to himself , we must repute them to have submitted , not only to such Laws as had before that time been made in Parliaments of England , but such as should be made , till they of Ireland should have the establishment of a regular Legislature . However Mr. M. will have it , that John gave Laws to Ireland , * not as King of England , but as Lord of Ireland ; and forms a pretty sort of an Argument from the stile of Lord of Ireland : as if this were an Argument , that 't is not dependent upon the Crown of England ; so excellent a faculty has he of making contraries serve his purpose . But 't is very unlucky , that John's retaining this stile is not only an Argument that Ireland is a Dominion , or Land , appendant to the Crown of England ; but that John was never King † of Ireland , which he would certainly have kept up as a distinct Interest , if he ever had such a Title separate from the Crown of England . H. 3. being made K. of England by the like choice of the States , which preferr'd him before Arthur's Sister , as they did John before the Brother ; in concurrence with these States , truly acted as Lord of Ireland , as might be shewn by numerous Instances . In the 18 th of his Reign , upon matters signified to him out of Ireland , he summoned the Archbishops , Bishops , Earls , Barons , and all the great Men , or Nobility of the Kingdom of England , to 𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁 a Parliament at London , to treat about the State of his Kingdom , and of his Land of Ireland . And in the 21 † of his Reign , he sends a Writ to the Archbishops and others * of Ireland , acquainting them that by the common consent of the Archbishops , Bishops , Abbots , Earls , and Barons of the Kingdom of England , alterations of the Law of England were enacted , as to the Limitations of several Writs ; which were then required to be observed in Ireland , in pursuance of the Statute of Merton . In † the 37 th of his Reign , an Irish man having pleaded , that he and his Brother , and their Ancestors , had always bin faithful to the Kings of England , his Predecessors , and served them in the CONQUEST OF THE IRISH ; they are , by peculiar licence under the Great Seal of England , admitted to enjoy by descent , as Englishmen . Which was an alteration of the a Law , and Custom of Ireland , as to those particular Persons , without any Act of Parliament there . Indeed , but four years after 't is b recorded , that 't was c long before , and d many Ages past ; which must reach beyond the Expedition of H. 2. provided and yielded , by the assent and desire of the Prelats , and great Men of the Land of Ireland , that they should be bound by the Laws us'd in the Kingdom of England : Yet the same Record restrains this to the consent of only the c English of the Land of Ireland . However 't is beyond dispute that the English Laws , both made and to be made in England , were then held to reach as far as the English Interest in the Land of Ireland : and this , according to the Record 18 H. 2. above referr'd to , was provided de communi Consilio Regis , by the King 's Common Council : tho by what Council , it must have been provided , will more fully appear afterwards , I may here explain it by an Instance in that Reign . All must agree , that the Provisions of Oxford , in the 43 d of H. 3. and referr'd to in the Records of the next year , were made in as true a Parliament as any in that Reign before the 49 th : 't is call'd a g Parliament by good Authors , and the word is used in the Records of the next a year , in relation to a meeting on the Borders of Wales . The b Ordinances and Provisions made at Oxford , were drawn up by 12 chosen by the King , and 12 by the Commons ; concerning which the Record has these words , Anno ab incarnat . domini 1259. Regni autem H. Regis fil . Regis J. 43. in quindena St. Mic. conven . ips . domino Rege & magnatibus suis , de communi consilio & consensu dictor . Regis & magnatum , factae sunt provisiones per ipsos Regem & Magnates . In the year from the incarnation of our Lord 1259. but of the Reign of K. Henry , Son of K. John , the 43d , the said King and his great Men , being assembled in the Quinzism of St. Michael , Provisions were made by the Common Council , and consent of the said King , and great men . And yet some of the Entries in the same Roll , mentioning Provisions then made , are , c per magnates nostros qui sunt de consilio nostro , By our great Men of our Council . Others , d Per magnates de Consilio meo , By the great Men of our Council . As if 't was by the sole Authority of the King , and such noble Men as were of his Privy or Private Council ; whe● those Provisions were certainly made in full Parliament : and this was the Council from whence Ireland then receiv'd its Laws . However from a Charter in the first of that King's Reign , Mr. M. would infer , that the English there had their independent Parliaments then established , or confirmed , tho he afterwards admits , that during that King's Reign they might have been bound by Laws made here for want of a a regular legislature establish'd amongst them . The b Charter , or rather Writ with which a Charter was sent , runs thus . Rex ▪ Archiepisc . Episc . Abbatibus , Comitibus , Baronibus , Militibus & omnibus fidelibus suis per Hiberniam constitutis salutem . fidelitatemvestram in Domino commendantes , quam Domino Patri nostro semper exhibuistis , & nobis estis diebus nostris exhibituri ; volumus quòd in signum fideli●a●is vestraetam praeclarae , tam insignis , libertatibus Regno nostro Angliae à patre nostro & nobis concessis , de gratiâ nostrâ & dono , in Regno Hiberniae gaudeatis ; quas distinctè in scriptum reductas , de'communi consilio omnium fidel . nostrorum vobis mittimus , signatas Sigillis Domini nostri G. Apostolicae sedis Legati , & fidelis nostri Comitis Mareschalli , Rector is nostri & regni nostri ; quia sigillum nondum habuimus , easdem processu temporis de Majori consilio proprio Sigillo signatur . Teste apud Glost . 6. Feb. The King to the Archbishops , Bishops Earls , Barons , Kts. and all our faithful Subjects constituted throughout Ireland , Health . Commending your fidelity in the Lord which you always shewed to your Lord our Father , and are about to shew to 〈◊〉 in our days ; we will that in sign of your fidelity ●o remarkable , so eminent you enjoy in our Kingdom of Ireland , the Lib●rties granted to our Kingdom of England ▪ by our Father & us ; which , distinctly reduced into Writing , we send you , by the Common Counsel of all our faithful People : Sealed with the Seals of the Lord G. Legate of the Apostolick See , & of our faithful Subject W. Earl Marshal Regent of us and our Kingdom ; because we have not yet a Seal , intending in process of time by consent of a greater Counsel to seal them with our own Seal . Teste at Gloster , 6. Feb. How specious soever this may seem , 't will neither prove Ireland to have been a Kingdom so early , nor to have had a grant of the English Liberties , in the same manner as the English enjoyed them ; that is , so as to have no Law imposed upon them without their express and immediate consent , to that very Law. For , 1. 'T is not to be suppos'd , but that if Ireland had been a Kingdom before this Charter , H. 2. and other Kings of England would have stiled themselves Kings of Ireland , rather than Lords , because of the greater Dignity of Kingship ; unless Lord was chosen as implying more absolute Power ; which would argue that Ireland did not enjoy the English Laws with equal Freedom . 2. This Writ mentions no Liberties granted to Ireland , but what had been a granted to England ; which besides the improbability that Ireland should 1 H. 3. have a Charter of the b same form with that which did not pass in England till 8 Years after , shews the spuriousness of the suppos'd Charter preserved in the c red Book of the Exchequer at Dublin , as dated the November before the Charter sent the 6th . of February : and however , the constant d method of sending Laws from hence to be applyed to the use of the Irish , without any alteration ; may sufficiently detect that Charter , which has the City of Dublin instead of London . 3. The method of sending to Ireland the Laws made here , besides what appears upon the face of the Record 6. Feb ; may satisfie any Body that 't was only a Writ which went along with a Charter or Charters of Laws , passed in Parliament here . 4. This Writ was before any confirmation of the English Liberties by H. 3. other than general at his Coronation ; and therefore bating such Confirmation , the Charter of Liberties then sent into Ireland , must have been John's which ( if it be read according to the due distinction of Periods , and that Translation which the course of Records both before and after enforces , and which the prevalence of Truth has obliged Dr. Brady to yeild , to the giving up his whole Controversie with Mr. Petyt , and the Author of Jani Anglorum Facies Nova ) makes express Provision for the City of London , all Cities , Burroughs , and Vills of the Kingdom of England , to enjoy all their Liberties and Free-Customs , and , among the rest , to be of , or to be represented in , the Common Council of the Kingdom . But Ireland had no City of London to claim this Privilege ; nor could any City of Ireland be included , any otherwise than as part of the Kingdom of England , and therefore subject to the Laws which should be made here . 2. This could not be as extensive to Ireland as 't was to England ; since it could not have extended beyond the English Pale there , and such particular Districts as enjoy'd the English Laws , of special Favour . Therefore the Charter then sent by H. 3. could , as to this Matter , be no more than a Memorial of that Supreme Law , according to which , England , with all the Dominions belonging to it , was to be Governed , and an assurance that they should have no Laws imposed upon them , in any other manner , than upon such of the English here , as had no Votes in the making Laws . But one end at least of the sending over that Charter must needs have been , suitable to the declared end of a Subsequent sending King John's Charter , when the Justice of Ireland was required to Summon , not only the Great Men , but the Free-holders of every County , who after the Laws had been read to them , were to swear to the observance of them ; beside which they were to be Proclaim'd in the several Counties . 5. Admit the Charter sent to Ireland 1. H. 3. had given the Irish Liberty to hold Parliaments , with Representatives from all parts of that Land , according to the English Form ; This Liberty was derived from a Convention of the States of the Kingdom of England , or Parliament , in the Minority of a King , who had no Judgment of his own ; was under the Government of a Subject whom the States had set over him and the Kingdom ; and that King was manifestly Chosen by them , to the setting aside Eleanor , who had the Right of Descent as far as that could avail : So that , the King could have no pretence to the imaginary divine Right of Succession ; and therefore that Charter must have been derived from the Grant of the People of England . And besides , the Record shews that this , tho' sent by the advice of all the King 's faithful People , was thought to want some Formality to make it a Parliament : the Assembly in which it was advised , being held by a Regent , may be thought to have occasioned the reference to a greater a or more solemn Council : However , such reference shews , that 't was not their Intention to be concluded by what was then done ; and when a Charter is b afterwards sent over in full Form ; then there 's not a word of Concession , but an absolute Command , that the Laws be publish'd and obey'd . However , take the Charter sent them 1. H. 3. in the utmost extent imaginable , 't is not to be thought , that while the English Parliament gave those of the English Pale , or others in Ireland , Liberty to hold Parliaments , they divested themselves of that Authority by which they gave such Liberty . To use the Words of the great Man Grotius , Se , per modum legis , id est , per modum superioris ▪ obgare nemo potest . Et hinc est , quod legum Auctores habent jus leges suas mutandi . Potest tamen quis obligari suâ lege , non directè s●d per reflectionem ex aequitate naturali , quae partes vult componi ad rationem integri . No Man can bind himself by way of Law , that is as a Sup●rior . And hence ●tis , that Law-makers have Right to change their Laws . Yet one may be bound by his own Law , not directly , but by reflexion from natural Equ●ty , which requires the parts to be compos'd with respect to the whole . 6. Admit the Charter sent 1. H. 3. being by consent of the States of the Kingdom of England , should be taken for an absolute departure from Power before vested in them ; then it ought to be taken Stricti●juris , and to confer no Rright beyond what is express'd : And therefore , 1. The Men of Ireland had a Grant only of such Liberties as were sent them a distinctly reduced into Writing : And unless the usual Practice of sending over the Laws made here be taken to explain this , or they shew the very Charter then sent ; 't is to be supposed , that only such Liberties were Expressed and Granted them , as were proper for an Appendage to the Crown of England . 2. If all King John's Charter were sent them , ( which I may well admit , according to the explanation of the following usage ; ) unless they can prove , as we can here , that before that time they had Common Councils of all the Land of Ireland , for all Matters of Publick concern , and that the Maxim here had obtain'd there ; Those things which concern all , ought to be treated of by all ; the only end of Common Councils of the Kingdom of England , expressed in King John's Charter , being in relation to the principal Grievance about the raising of Aids to the Crown ; the Grants to Ireland could extend no further , than a Liberty to have such a Council for the raising Aids . And there 's no doubt , but more Money may be rais'd by such National Consent , than can be in the most Arbitrary way : which abates the force of the Argument , from H. 3. his desiring the Archbishops , Bishops , Abbots , Priors , Earls , Barons , Knights , Freemen , Cities , and Burroughs of the Land of Ireland , to Aid him as much as they could , with Men and Money . And hence , tho' 't would have been no breach of John's Charter , for the King to raise Aids of his Tenents in Chief , for making his Eldest Son a Knight , without calling for them to any Council ; that being one of the exceptions out of the Liberties expressed in that Charter ; yet H. 3. writ to the Archbishops , Bishops , Abbots , Priors , Earls , Barons , Knights , and all his Freemen of the Land of Ireland , intreating them to give him such an Aid . 6. After all , to shew how little there is in his mighty Argument from the Writ 1. H. 3. Let him take his choice , either that the English in Ireland had a Parliament , granted , or confirmed to them by the Charter sent along with the Writ 1. H. 3. or they had not . If they had , then those Laws which were made here after such Establishment , in pursuance of the desire of them from Ireland , shew that neither the Parliaments of England , nor they of Ireland thought they had any Power to make Laws there . If there was no Grant or Confirmation of any Parliament there , then the Concession of English Laws and Liberties , was no more than a Declaration , that they should be governed by the Laws made , and to be made by Parliament in England , or receiv'd there by the consent of the People , giving Force and Authority to their own approved Customs . But since after all Mr. M.'s learned Flourishes about the Setling of Parliaments in Ireland , by the Modus sent over in the time of H. 2. and subsequent Grants ; he admits that under the 3 Kings , H. 2. King John , and H. 3. and their Predecessors , we must repute them to have submitted to the Laws made here in those Reigns , for want of a regular Legislature establish'd among them ; And since , whatever he admits , there 's no Colour of such an Establishment by the end of H. 3. Let 's see what can be found in the next Reign . E. 1. having in his absence from England upon the Death of H. 3. his Father , been Elected and Declared King of England , in a full Convention of the States of this Kingdom ; in a a Writ sent by those States to Ireland , 't is affirm'd , that the Government of England , and the Dominion or Lordship of the Land of Ireland , belonged to him by Hereditary Succession ; not that he was held to be King by a meer Right of Descent , but as the b Ritual of the Coronation of H. 1. and the Writ for Proclaiming the Peace of E. 1. in England , and Authors of the time shew , the Election of the States of England placed him in the c Inheritance of the Crown : therefore the States of England declare to the Subjects of Ireland , that they were bound to take the like Oath of Allegiance as the English had done ; and this is required of them by the States here , under the Great Seal of England : nor is there colour to believe , that there was any Summons to Ireland for any from thence to come to that Con●ention ; nor indeed , was there time for such Summons and return , before that meeting ; notwithstanding Mr. M's assertion of this Reign in particular , a that the Laws made in England and binding them , were always enacted by their proper Representatives ; meaning , Representatives chosen in Ireland : the reason for which he there brings from supposed instances in the Reign of E. 3. seeming not to rely upon his Quotation from the White Book of the Exchequer in Dublin but the Page before , which 9 E. 1. mentions b Statutes made by the King at Lincoln , and others at York , with the assent of the Prelates , Earls , Barons , and Commonalty of his Kingdom of Ireland . Which , if it implyed the presence of the Commonalty of Ireland , would be an Argument , that all their Rights were concluded by the Tenants in chief , who had Lands in Ireland , but were Members of the English Parliament by reason of their Interest here : but in truth , this shews no more than that , at the request of those of Ireland , the Parliament of England had enacted those Laws ; and the Record in their white Book is only a Record of the transmission from hence ; and proves that , suitably to the practice both before and after that time , they in Ireland had no Parliaments for enacting Laws , but were forc'd to Petition to have them enacted here ; and what was enacted upon their Petition was truly with their Assent . But then the Question will be , whether in the Laws made in that King's Reign with intention to bind Ireland , their Consent is generally expressed , or implyed , any otherwise than from the nature of their former submission to be govern'd by the English Laws . But if our Acts of Parliament , and Records concerning them , are clear in any thing , they certainly are in this , that the Parliament of England then had , and exercis'd , an undoubted Right of binding Ireland , without their immediate consent by any Representatives chosen there : Mr. M. indeed , ( tho' as I have before observ'd , he admits that Ireland was bound by Acts of Parliament here , till the end of the Reign of H. 3. for a want of a regular legislature among themselves ; yet , suitably to his usual inconsistencies , upon the enquiry , where , a and how , the Statute Laws and Acts of Parliament made in England since the 9 th . of H. 3. came to be of force in Ireland ) will have it , that none of them made here , without Representatives chosen in Ireland , were binding there , b till receiv'd by a suppos'd Parliament 13 E. 2. yet it falls out unluckily , that they have Statutes in Print 3 E. 2. which speak not a word of Confirming the Laws before that time made in England ; and yet no Man will question , but Statute Laws of England made in the Reign of E. 1. were a Rule which the Judges in Ireland went by , before the time of E. 2. And that all Judgments given in Ireland contrary to any Law transmitted thither , under the Great Seal of England , must , upon Writs of Error , have been set aside here as Erroneous . But let 's see whether our Parliaments in the time of E. 1. had such a defference to the Irish Legislature , or that the English in Ireland then made any such pretensions as Mr. M. advances . If we Credit Judge Bolton , our Statute Westm . 1st . which was 3 E. 1. was first confirm'd in Ireland 13 E. 2. and till then , according to Mr. M.'s Inferences from their receiving or publishing Laws made here , that Statute was of no force in Ireland , being d Introductory of a new Law in several particulars ; as among other things , in Subjecting Franchises to be seized into the King's Hands for default of pursuing Felons , and in Enacting , not only the Imprisoning and Fining Malefactors in Parks , and Vivaries , but forcing them to Abjure the Realm , if they could not find Sureties for their good Behaviour . This Act does not Name Ireland , but the King Ordain'd and Establish'd it by His Council , and by the assent of the Archbishops , Bishops , Abbots , Priors , Earls , Barons , and all the Commonalty of the Realm thither Summoned ; for the mending the Estate of the Realm , for the Common profit of the holy Church of the Realm ; and as Profitable and Convenient for the whole Realm . However that Ireland , as part of the Realm , was bound by this Law , and by other Laws made 11 , 12 , and 13 E. 1. without any regard to Parliamentary Confirmations in Ireland ; and that for enforcing Obedience to those Laws , 't was enough to send them thither by some proper Messenger , under the Great Seal of England , if not without , appears by the Proceedings of the Parliament at Winchester , holden the Oct. after the Parliament of Westim . 2. a Mem. quod , &c. Mem. that on Friday in the Feast of the Exaltation of the Holy Cross , in the 13 th . Year of the King , at Winchester there were deliver'd to Roger Br●ton , Clerk to the Venerable Father William , Bishop of Waterford , then Justice of Ireland , certain Statutes , made and provided by the King , and His Council , viz. The Statutes of Westminster , made soon after the King's Coronation , and the Statutes of Gloster , and those made for Merchants , and the Statute of Westm ▪ provided and made in the King's Parliament at Easter ; to be carried to Ireland , and there to be Proclaimed and Observed . It appears that among the Statutes delivered to the Chief Justices Clerk , in order to their being published and observed in Ireland , one was the Statute concerning Merchants 12. E. 1. for the enforcing and improving a Statute made at Acton Burnel 11. of that King ; that of Acton Burnel provides a remedy for Debts to Merchants , to be had by calling the Debtor before the Mayor of London , York , or Bristol , or before the Mayor , and a Clerk to be appointed by the King : which , as it seems , 't was intended that the King should have Power to appoint , in other Cities or Towns within his Kingdom : Accordingly , the Statute 12. E. 1. says , the King had commanded it to be firmly kept a throughout his Realm : and that Parliament 12. for declaring or explaining some of the Articles of the former Statute , names the Mayor of London , or the Chief Governour of that City , or b of other good Town : This Statute expresly Ordains and Establishes , that it be thenceforth held throughout the King's c Realm of England , and of Ireland : And it enacts the form of a Writ upon that Statute ; which was to be current in Ireland upon several accounts . 1. By the Letter of that Law , which was ordain'd for the Benefit of Merchants in Ireland , as well as in England . 2. If it had not been named , the being transmitted to Ireland from a Parliament here , was a sufficient ground for their observing it . 3. Such observance was included in the terms of their Submission , above one Hundred Years before . 4. The Writ , without any particular Provision , became a legal and current Writ in Ireland , by virtue of an Act of Parliament here , 30 H. 3. which , a for the common Profit of the Land of Ireland , and unity of the King's Lands , provided , that the Common Law Writs should have the same currency in Ireland , that they have here . Without enquiring what Records they have in Ireland , of Statutes Staple from the 13 th of E. 1. when this Statute which settled them was sent thither ; 't is certain , that from that time the English in Ireland were bound by it , and so held to be in b subsequent Statutes of this Realm , confirming this Statute , or supplying its defects . But what pity 't is , that neither Judge Bolton , nor Mr. M. thought of an Act of Parliament in Ireland to confirm that Statute 12 E. 1. This was enacted in the Year 1284. which was above 350 Years before that fatal Aera of Innovations 1641 ; from whence it seems Calamities of all kinds are to be dated . But , I should think , here is at least one positive Precedent before that time , of an English Act of Parliament's binding the Kingdom of Ireland . And to me it seems as plain , that in the Judgment of the Parliament 13 E. 1. Ireland , tho not named , was bound by a Statute made here ; for which I shall refer him to the Interpretation then made of the extent of the Statutes of Gloster , which had been enacted in the 6 th . of that King's Reign . Some would think a those Statutes to have been no more than Ordinances , made by the King and his Counsel only : and that our Kings thus made Ordinances of that kind , some may gather from Fleta , who speaks of the King's Counsel , in which , not only erroneous Judgments were corrected , but new Remedies provided ; yet Fleta speaks this of the King's Counsel in his Parliaments : and thus , tho' the Statute of Westm . 2. c seems to restrain the making that of Gloster to the King and his Council , the Statute of Gloster it self shews that the Counsel was to be taken , as acting in conjunction with the Prelates , Earls , and Barons , and that under the word Barons the Commonalty were included as as lower Nobility , or dignified by their Election to Parliament ; accordingly the Statute of Gloster says suitably to latter Writs of Summons , the a more discreet of the Kingd . as well Great as Small were Summon'd : So that the Statutes of Gloster were made as other Statutes 3 E. 1. by that King's Counsel , and by assent of the Commonalty ; where the Lords were manifestly included under the word b Counsel , agreeably to the ancient form of c Writs of error , or other Writs returnable into Parliament , before us , and our Counsel in our Parliament , or , at our next Parliament after , or at such a time , there to do what the King shall think fit to ordain , by advice of his Counsel . For evidence that this did not exclude the Lords , I may refer to the Ro●●s of Parliament of several Reigns , and particularly to those of the 20 th . and 21 st . of E. 3. In the 20 th . the a Commons are desired to deliver such Petitions as were then ready , to the Clerk of the Parliament ; which Petitions are said to be brought before the Great Men of the Counsel . That they were but of the nature of a Committee to inform the King , and Lords , of the Bills or Petitions which came from the Commons , appears by the Proceedings of the next Year ; when the Commons having made Petitions of an extraordinary nature , the King answers , c He will advise with the Lords . To return to the Statute of Gloster , there the King by such advice as I have shewn , made Laws for the amendment of his Realm , and for the plenary exhibition of Right , as the profit of the Regal Office requires ; and to remedy d mischiefs , dammages , and disherisons , suffer'd by the People of the Realm of England ; without the least mention of Ireland . And yet we have the judgment of the Parliament in the 13 th . of that King , that Ireland was within the remedy of that Statute , as part of the Realm of England , as appears by this Preamble . a Where of late our Lord the King in the Quinzisme of St. John Baptist , the Sixth of his Reign , calling together the Prelates , Earls , Barons , and his Counsel , at Gloucester ; and considering that divers of this Realm were disherited by reason that in many cases where remedy should have been had , there was none provided by him nor his Predece●sors ; ordained certain Statutes , right necessary and profitable for his People , whereby the People of England , and Ireland under his Government , have obtained more speedy justice in their oppressions than they had before , and certain Cases wherein the Law failed remain undetermined , and some remained to be enacted , that were for the reform of the oppressions of the People ; Our Lord the King in his Parliament , after the Feast of Easter , holden the 13 th . of His Reign , at Westminster , caused many Oppressions of the People and defaults of the Laws , for the c supply of the defects of the said Statutes of Gloster , to be rehearsed and made Statutes , as will appear here following . This rehearsal of the Grievances was , for certain , by the Petition of the Commons of this Realm , and the Statutes there made , as the Register of Writs has it , were by the Common Counsel of the Kingdom : And this Counsel not only declared Laws which were binding to Ireland , but made new ; tho' Mr. Molineux will have it , that from the time of Magna Chata to the 10 th . of H. 7. no Laws were , or are in force in Ireland , unless allowed of by Parliament in that Kingdom : except only such as are Declaratory of the Common Law of England , and not Introductive of any new Law. And whereas he is pleas'd to say , As to such English Statutes as seem to comprehend Ireland , and to bind it under the general words of all his Majesty's Dominions , or Subjects , whatever has been the opinion of private and particular Lawyers in this Point , I am sure ( says he ) the Opinions of the Kings of England , and their Privy Council have been otherwise . I may say upon much better grounds , if any King and His Privy Council did any thing to Warrant this Assertion , the Judgment of E. 1. and His Council in Parliament , was to the contrary , and is of greater Authority . And 't is to be remembred , as I before shewed ▪ that the Statutes of Gloster , which do not Name Ireland , and the Statutes of West . ● . which do , were both delivered to the Clerk of the Justice of Ireland , in order to their being published and observed there . And 't is evident , that Ireland's being bound by Parliaments in England , without any consent expressed in Ireland , was not merely the Judgment of the times above referred to , but the setled Judgment of that King and His Council , in His Parliaments . Thus in a the 8 th of that King , there 's a Writ taking notice , that the Irish had desired to be governed by the Laws of England : upon which the King requires all the English of the Land of Ireland to Certifie , whether this might be granted without pre judice to them ; declaring that the King would make such Provision , as should seem expedient to Himself , and His Council : which , plainly enough referred to His Council in Parliament . If , upon their Certificate , a general Law had passed to grant the Irish their Request , the mentioning the consent of the English there , could not be thought to derogate from the Legislature here ; the Authority of which was intimated in that very reference , and was fully asserted in that Kings Reign by an Act of Parliament , made here after that time , and the Proceedings thereupon , both in England and Ireland . By the Case a of mixt Monies in Ireland , we are informed , that 29 E. 1. when , by the King 's sepecial Ordinance , the Pollards and Crochards were cry'd down and made of no Value ; the same Ordinance was transmitted into Ireland , and Enrolled in the Exchequer there , as is found in the Red Book of the Exchequer there . And agreeably to this , it appears by the Statute Roll here , that this Ordinance , which in truth was an Act of Parliament , or else an other of the same kind , was sent to John Wogan , then Chief Justice of Ireland , or to his Lieutenant . This is only a short Entry referring to the known usage ; But the very next Record of a transmission to Ireland of a Statute made here , which was that about Juries , is more express . Mem. quod istud Statutum de verbo ad verbum missum suit in Hib. T. R. aput Kenynt . 14. die Aug. Rni sui 27. Et mandatum fuit J. Wogan Justic ▪ Hib. quod praed ▪ Stat. per totam Hib. in locis quibus expedire videret legi & publicè proclamari , & firmiter teneri faciat . Mem. That that Statute , word for word , was sent into Ireland , Teste the King at Kenynton 14. Aug. in the 27th . of his Reign . Command was gito John Wogan , Chief Justice of Ireland , to cause it to be read in those places in which he shall think it expedient , and to be publickly Proclaimed and Observed . This Statute does not name Ireland , nor has general words which seem to include it : But it seems some years after to have been Enacted , that this Statute should be transcribed , and sent to Ireland for a Law given them by Parliamentary Authority . In the 35 th . of a E. 1. Will. De Testa was Impeach'd in Parliament , for grievous Oppressions and Extortions upon the People , by Colour of Authority from the See of Rome : This , upon the Petition of the Earls , Barons , and other Great Men , and the Commonality of the whole Realm of England , occasioned a general Law and Provision , for the State of the King's Crown , and also of His Lands of Scotland , Wales , and Ireland . The Remedy was Enacted by the b Assent of the King , and the whole Council of Parliament ; and 't was Enacted , that for the future such things should not be permitted within c the Realm . That Ireland was then included as part of the Realm , appears not only by the intention before declared , but agreeably thereunto , The Statute then made is , by Authority of Parliament , sent to the Justice of Ireland , as well as to the Chief Governors of other the King's Dominions ; enjoyning them to enquire and proceed against those who had offended in that kind , and to cause the Provision , Agreement , and Judgment , of that Parliament , to be Firmly and Inviolably observed in those Lands . Mr. M. having , as he thinks , answer'd an Objection from the Ordinance for the State of Ireland , Printed in ▪ our Statute-Books , not only that of 1670. but even in others much more Ancient , as made 17 E. 1. I shall shew him some new Matter , which may deserve his farther Consideration ; and yet tho' he thinks he has prov'd , 1. That this Ordinance was never receiv'd in Ireland , 2. That 't was meerly an Ordinance of the King , and His Privy Council in England ; it might be enough to observe , That the Clause which he Instances in , forbidding the King's Officers to purchase Lands there , upon pain of Forfeiture , has an Exception for the King's Licence ; and tho' he has not been at the pains to examine whether there were any such Licences from England , I can shew him in the very next Year , a confirmation under the Great Seal of England , of a grant of Land 's there , before made from hence : which were sufficient security against the forfeiture . 2. If 't were admitted that the Ordinance were made by the King and his Privy Counsel , 't would be very difficult for him to prevail upon many to believe , that a Land or Kingdom , which in all the principal Parts of Government was under the controul of the Great Seal of another Kingdom , was ( as he pretends ) a a complete Kingdom within it self , b or a Kingdom regulated within it self ; the contrary of which appears in numerous instances of the time of which we are at present enquiring ; as of leave from hence to chuse Ecclesiastical Governors , Pardons , Directions , for the Proceedings of the Courts of Justice , and Council in Ireland ; the appointing distinct Courts of Judicature , Grants of Lands , Offices , Liveries out of the King's Hands of Lands held in Chief of the Crown of England , Licences of alienation , and the like . Further than all this , there 's a Precedent of taxing Communities by Authority from hence . It must be agreed , that 't was frequent for Kings to grant to Cities and Towns in England , power to raise Customs , or Duties for Murage , the building or repairing their Walls , to be levyed upon Goods and Merchandizes brought thither ; in these Grants there was no mention by what advice , or consent they issued ; but 't is to be presumed that the Great Seal was not rashly affixed ; nor were they extended farther than to the Walls , which secured the Persons and Goods of those who paid the Duty : yet the Great Seal of England has been applyed much more absolutely , to the binding the property of the Subjects in Ireland , as may appear by this Record . R. Ballivis ▪ & probis hominibus s●is Dublin Salutem Cum in subsidium villae claudendae vobis nuper per literas postras Pat. concesserimusquod quasdan consuetudines usque ad certum temp●s de singulis rebus venalibus ad eandem villam venientibus capietis , ac dilectus & Fidelis noster Nic. de Clere Thes . nost . Hibern . testificatus fuerit coram nobis , quod vos ad mandatum ejusd . Nic. magnam partem pecuniae provende consuetud . antedict . in clausuram scaccar ▪ nostri Dublin posuistis nos ea de causa , &c. The King to the Bayliffs and honest Men of Dublin Greeting ; since , in aid of walling your Town , we lately by our Letters Patents granted , that you should take some Customs to a certain day , of every thing to be sold coming to that Town . And our beloved and faithful Subject Nic. de Clere Treasurer of Ireland has certified us , that you , at the command of the said Nicholas , have employed great part of the Money arising by those Customs , to the enclosing or repairing the Exchequer at Dublin . Therefore , &c. The King by his Great Seal of England continues the Tax for Three Years longer than his first Grant , and allows of the applying part of it to an end very different from that of the Walling the Town . For a yet farther Evidence of the more absolute Dominion , which E. 1. exercis'd over Ireland , than he pretended to in England ; I shall shew , that he took to himself Authority to set aside what is supposed to have been setled by an Ordinance , in the seventeenth of his Reign . One of the said Ordinances provides , That neither the Justice of Ireland , nor any other of the King's Officers , by colour of their Office , take Victuals from any Person without his Consent , unless in case of necessity , and that by the assent of the chief of the King's Council of those Parts , and by Writ , out of the Chancery of Ireland . And yet in the next Year after this Ordinance is supposed to have been made , the King , as a particular Indulgence to the Citizens of Roscommon , grants that the Constable of Roscommon , or other the King's Officers , shall take no Victuals , or other things of them without their Consent , unless there be a necessity for it in time of War. And this exemption is only by a Patent during Pleasure . But , in truth , this was no violation of the Ordinance for the State of Ireland : For , besides that , I shall shew when 't was made , and how , in another Reign ; 'T is certain it could not be in a Council at Nottingham in the Octaves of St. Martin ; not only as may appear to any one who will trace the Close and Patent-Rolls , and the Use of the Great Seal , which went along with the King from his Landing at Dover a on the 12th of August , to the b 16th of November ; during which time the Seals were far from Nottingham , but chiefly because there was a Parliament at Westminster , appointed to be held on the Crastino Martini ; which , 't is to be presumed , met accordingly , tho Mr. M. is positive that E. 1. c held no Parliament in the 17 th of his Reign . But , for his Conviction in this particular , during d the K's Absence in Foreign Parts , Edmund Earl of Cornwall , being Custos , Dated the Writs , among which there was one referring a Matter to the Judgment of the King and his Council , in the next Parliament to be after Easter . And to satisfie Mr. M. that there was no need of a Council at Nottingh●m , nor could there be one the Octaves of St. Martin , it happens that on a the 14th of that October , a Writ issued to the Sheriff of Nottingham , acquainting him of a Commission to certain Persons to hea● the Miscarriages of the King's Officers in that Country , and to give me an account thereof at the next Parliament ; and therefore commands the Sheriff to Summon all Parties aggrieved , to be at Westminster that year in the Morrow of Sanct b Martin . I must own that I have not found any Record of a Writ of Summons for any of the Members to come to Parliament that Year , ●or has Sir William a Dugdale found any to the Lords , t●●l the 22d ; and yet 't will be agreed , that there were Parliaments between the 49th of H. 3 and the 22d of E. 1. and 't is certain the Statute of Westm . 1. b 3 E. 1. is express , that the Archbi●●●ps , Bishops , Abbots , Priors , 〈◊〉 Barons , and all the Com●●nalty of the Land , were Summoned to that General Parliament , and assenting to the Laws then made . Mr. Prynn , as I take it , had not seen any Writ of Summons to the Commons , till 26 E. 1. Yet I have found in the Close-Roll of a 18 E. 1. as Dr. Brady , and Mr. Pety● have in the Bundle of Writs , this following . Rex Vic. Northumb . cum per Com. Bar. & quosdam alios de proceribus regni nostri , nuper fuissemus requisiti super quibusdam ●am cum ipsis quam cum aliis de comitatibus regni illius , colloquium habere velimus & tractatum ; Tibi p●aecipimus , quod duos vel tres de discretioribus & ad laborandum potentiori●us militibus , de Com. praed . eligi & eos ad nos usque Wes●m . venire facias ; fine dilatione . Ita quòd sint ibid. à die Sancti ibidem a die Sancti Johannis Baptistae prox . fatur in tres septimanas ad ultimum , cum plenâ potes●ate pro se & totâ Communitate comitat . praed . ad consulendum & consentiendumpro se & communitat . illâ , hiis quae Com. Bar. & Proceres praed tum duxerint concordand . T. R. apud West . 14 die Junii . The King to the Sheriff of Northumberland . For asmuch as we were lattly in a special manner entreated by the Earls , Barons , and some others of the Peers , or Nobility of our Realm , that we would have a Colloquy and Treaty upon some Matters , as well with them , as with others of the Counties of the Realm . We require you without delay , to cause to be Elected , and to come to us as far as Westminster , two or three of the more discreet , and more able to travail of the Knights of the said County : So that they be there at the latest , within three Weeks , from the Day of St. John the Baptist next ensuing , with full power for themselves , and all the Commonalty of the said County , to consult and consent to those things , which the aforesaid Earls and Barons shall then think fit to be agreed . Test . the King at Wes●m . the 14th day of June . This Dr. Brady in his Answer to Mr. Petyt , more truly than he is aware , calls a Summons to a Parliament : However in his Introduction he will have it , that the Laws were then made by the King and his Peers , before the Knights of the Shires came ; the Statute of that time saying , that the Parliament was holden in the Quinzism of St. John , and that the Laws were made at the a Instance of the Great Men. But he might have observed , 1. That the Provision b then made , is called a Statute . 2. That the Council wherein it pass'd , is called a Parliament . 3. That the Matter enacted , was a general Law , and of general Concern ; it being for the encouraging of Purchasers , and engaging the more Persons to a National Interest by Propriety in Land , which till that time was in much fewer Hands ; because whoever purchased any part of an Estate , had been liable to be charged with all the Rents and Services which lay upon the whole ; and there was one other necessary Provision , against Alienations in Mortmain . 4. The Precept to the Sheriff was to cause the Election to be made forthwith , and to take care that the Parties were ●ound to be at Westminster by three Weeks after the Feast of St. John , at the farthest . The Day when the Parliament was holden , was but 5 or 6 Days before ; which shews , that 't is absurd to imagine , that there should have been a Law made of that immediate consequence to all Owners of Land , before the Knights of the Shire came up ; not only because they being obliged to be at Parliament by such a Day at the latest , may well be supposed to have come 5 or 6 Days before the utmost extent of their time , to avoid the Forfeitures of the Bonds which they us'd to give for their Appearance ; but chiefly , because , as 't is well known , whenever a Law passes , 't is in Judgment of Law held to have pass'd the first Day of the Session ; which Day might have been agreed at their former Meeting . Nor is it absurd to believe , that there might be a Summons to require the Sheriffs to secure Full Parliaments , even tho the Days of Meeting and of Elections below , might have been certain . The true reason why so few Writs of Summons , of those early times , are to be found , seems to be , that once , at least , in a Year the Parliaments met of course . The Confessor's Law speaks of the a Calends of May as the fix'd Day . In the b 1st of E 1. the Custos of the Realm , as appears above , in the King's Absence issued Writs , tho not for Elections to Parliament , yet returnable into the Parliament , to be holden next after Easter , without mentioning any Day , as if 't were commonly known ; but no Parliament being holden soon after Easter , because of the King 's being out of the Land ▪ a Return into a Parliament appointed to sit after the King 's Landing , was to a Day certain . But that at the beginning of E. 1. the time of holding a Parliament was look'd upon as so fix'd , that there was no need of Summons , appears by that King's Letter to the Pope , 3 E. 1. referring him to the Deliberation of the Peers of the Kingdom in a Parliament , which used to be holden in England , about the Octaves of the Resurrection of our Lord. 5. If the mention only of the Instance of the Great Men , or Nobility , be an Argument that the Law was then made before even the Knights of the Counties came up , tho Summoned to Consult and Consent ; the many Laws which have pass'd immediately upon the King's Answer to the Petition of the Commons , would argue as strongly , that those Laws were made without the consent of the Lords ; but as in such case , either they were included as part of the Community of the Kingdom , or else the King answered by their Advice ; So at the making the Statute 18 E. 1. either the Commons were under the Word Magnates , as the lower Nobility , or Men dignified by being Senators , or else the Great Lords finding themselves chiefly agrieved , as being unable to pay their Debts , because none would buy their Lands ; this Law might have pass'd chiefly ●t their desire : But then , since 't is manifest it was in Parliament , 't was by the Consent of the Commons ; but I rather think that the Commons were then included under Magnates , bec●●●e I find them so in Times after th●s ; and that Petitions were made to them with as high Ascriptions as were given to the Great Lords . In the 1st of E. 3. a Statute was made , as one Record has it , by the a Common Council of the Kingdom , as another b by the King , the Prelates , Earls , Barons , and the Commonalty of the Realm ; and yet an Historian well conversant in the Records , and common acceptation of Words in that Time , speaking of this very Parliament , and of the Queen Mother's coming to London , with E. 3. her Son , says , Thither also Convened the whole c Nobility of the Kingdom , having been before Summoned to the holding a Parliament . In after Times there are numbers of Petitions to the House of Commons , from Persons of Quality ; from the City of London , and others : To the ( a ) Most Honourable , or Right Honourable , and Most Wise the Commons in this present Parliment Assembled . The b Honourable and Most Wise , and the like . ( c ) But some who will admit that the Knights of the Shire , who indeed are in many Records call'd Grands of the Counties , were part of the Magnates 17 E. 3. will have it , that the Citizens and Burgesses were not , because . 1. They , in those Times , used to be distinguished by the Name of Commons , from the Knights of the Shires . 2. There 's no mention of any Summons tothem in the Records of 18 E. 1. when there was to the Knights of the Shires ▪ But for a full answer to this , I desire it may be considered . 1. That the Meeting 17 E. 1. appears by the Statute then made , to be a Parliament , that Dr. Brady himself has yielded , that the Cities , Boroughs ▪ and Cinque Ports , and Vills , had by King John's Charter , right to be of the Common-Council of the Kingdom ; which is the Phrase most generally used in the Ancient Register of Writs , to denote a Parliament . 2. There were Boroughs long before the reputed Conquest : As for instance , St. Edmund's Bury , or Burgh , made a Borough in the Time of King Edmund , confirmed in the Reigns of Cnute , the Confessor , W. 1. and other Kings . 3. Boroughs frequently occur in Dooms-day Book , that great Survey taken in the Reign of W. 1. and are mentioned as such in the Time of Edward the Confessor . 4. No one Charter of ancient Times since W. 1. can be found , giving any Borough right to send Members to Parliament ; but that has seem'd the consequent of being a Borough , having a Gild for Merchandize , and answering to the King , or other chief Lord , as one entire Body : upon which account they appeared by Representation , while individual Tenants were in the great Councils upon their Personal Right . 5. That for asserting the Right of Boroughs to be represented in Parliament , it generally was enough to plead that they were Boroughs ; yet one instance at least is to be found within two Reigns after the time of our present enquiry , where a a Borough Pleads , or Alledges in Parliament , that they had been made a Borough in King Athelstan's time , and ever after had been represented in Parliament by two Members of their own chusing : and this the then Parliament , or the King's Council in it , were so far from thinking improbable , that upon that Borough's Allegation that the Charter was lost , they direct an enquiry , with declared disposition to have it renewed . 6. These Boroughs , whether holding of the Crown in chief , or of Great Lords , were either Baronies , or parts of Baronies , upon the account of Knights Service ; or Honors by reason of other free Tenures , and their Charters , that they should hold freely and honourably , as many of them run ; and thus the Members in Parliament , who serv'd for these Baronies , or Honours , were part of the Baronage of the Kingdom : Not but that sometimes Barony and Honour are used without distinction concerning them ; and thus that ancient Borough of Barnstaple a which held of the Lord Tracy , is in the same Record call'd both a Barony , and an Honour . Which Honour , as appears by this instance , was not limited to immediate Tenure of the Crown ; and that this was not derived from the grant of a reputed Conqueror might be proved by numbers of Authorities , of which I shall here content my self with one out a of Doomesday-Book . In Norwic erant temp . E. MCCCXX Burgenses , &c. Tota haec villa reddebat TRE 20 l. Regi & Comiti 10 l. In novo Burgo a XXXVI Burgenses and VI Anghci . De hoc toto habebat Rex 2 partes & Comes tertiam ; modo XLI Burgenses Franci in dominio Regis , & Comes Rogerus Bigot habet L. & sic de aliis . Tota haec terra Burgensium erat in Dominio Comitis Rad. & concessit eam Regi in commune , ad faciendum Burgum inter se & Regem : Ut testatur Vicecomes . In Norwich there were in the time of Edward 1320. Burgesses . All this Town in the time of King Edward yielded the King 20 l. and the Earl 10 l. In the new Borough there were 36 Burgesses , and six of them English . Of all thus the King had two parts , and the Earl the third . Now there are 41 Burgssses in the Kings demeasn , and Earl Roger Bigo● has 50. and so of others . And this Land of the Burgesses was in Earl ( c ) Ralphs Demeas● , and he granted it to the King in common , to make a Borough between him and the King : As the Sheriff attests . This Earl was Ralph Guader or Wader , who continued Earl of Norfol● , or at least of Norwich , from within the Confessor's Reign , till the 9 th . or 10 th . of W. 1. 7. The Freemen , or at least they who had Borough holds in these , or in some of them , are in Doomsday-Book , called Barons , as particularly in the Borough of Warwick . Et in Burgo de Warwic habet Rex in Dominio suo CXIII Domus , & Barones Regis habent CXII . de quibus omnibus Rex habet geldam . And in the Borough of Warwick the King has in his demeasm 113 Ho●ses , and the Kings Barons have 112. of all which the King has Aid . 8. They who were interested in the Government of these Boroughs , and had Right to look after their common concerns , could not but be Barons as properly , as the Free hold Tenants of Lords of Mannors , Freeholders , who were Judges in the County Courts , and the Freemen of London , who are call'd Barons in several Records , and other undoubted Authorities , and the Barons of the Cinque Ports . Of Dover in particular a Dooms-day Book says , in the time of King Edward it yielded 18 l. of which King Edward had two parts , and Earl Godwin the 3. And a Charter ( c ) to this Port in the beginning of King John's Reign confirms to his Men of Doura the Confessor's Charter , together with the Charters of W. 1. and other Kings after the reputed Conquest . 9. If 't is to be thought , that no Citizens and Burgesses were at the Parliament 17 E. 1. because no Summons appears for other Commons , besides the Knights of the Shires ; by the same reason 't is to be thought , that none of the Great Lords were there ; no Summons to them appearing . 10. In the Writs for chusing Knights of the Shires there was no occasion to mention the choice of others ; and thus 12 E. 2. Only the Earls , Barons , and Commonalty of the Counties are spoken of as granting an 18 th . part of their Goods : but they would be very much deceiv'd who should think , that no others were at that Parliament ; for the same Record shews , that the Clergy granted a 10 th . and the Cities and Boroughs a 12 th . 11. 'T is very probable that at that time , the Cities and Boroughs had the Writs directed to them in particular , to be return'd by their Headborough , or other Officer , or else by the Community there . Thus in the 14 th . of King John a Summons to the Army is sent to the Headborough and Honest Men of Canterbury ; so to Dover ▪ Rochester , Gildford , and a great many other Places . And the very next Year particular Writs are sent to the Honest Men of Canterbury , the Mayor and Barons of London , the Mayor and Honest Men of Winchester , &c. and so to all the Boroughs and Demesns of the Crown ; not only referring them to the Justice or Custos of the Realm , but desiring an Aid of them which : Mr. M. must agree to have been desired in as true a Parliamentary Meeting , as those which he cites of the time of H. 3. in relation to Ireland . This I hope may not be thought an unprofitable digression from the supposed Ordinance 17 E. 1. but may sufficiently evince , by what Authority it must have been made , if there were any such of that time ; and that the King and his Counsel pretended not to settle the State of a Dominion annex'd to the Crown of England , without consent of the States . But tho' the King's Counsel did not then act in Parliament matters , otherwise than Parliamentarily ; yet 't is certain that they did exercise an Ordinary Jurisdiction in relation to Ireland , as well as to England , either as Committees or Tryers of Petitions , appointed by the Lords or otherwise ; tho' the bringing a Cause from the Lords in Ireland to the House of Lords here , is one of the circumstances in the present juncture of Affairs , which seems to require Mr. M's learned Disquisition . In the Bundle of Petitions to the Parliament , in the time of E. 1. there are some a endorsed as bro●ght before the King , some before all the Council ; and as the Method of following times explains this Matter , there had been appointed Receivers and Tryers of Petitions concerning Ireland ; for several are receiv'd from thence , and authoritatively Answered . There 's one from Jeffery de Geymul , who complains of the Barons of the Exchequer in Ireland , for sending within his Jurisdiction , a Commission of enquiry , who Sold Pollards ; to the prejudice , as he alledged , of the Franchise , which a H. 2. had granted to the Ancestors of his Wife , Maud de Lacy. This Commission was manifestly founded upon the Record of the Statute made here , as is shewn above , enrolled in the Exchequer of Ireland by Order from hence : This the Barons there obey'd , and held that by Virtue of that , they might cause Commissions of Enquiry to be executed even in Palatinates : nor does it appear , that the King's Council in Parliament disallowed of their Proceeding , ● for nothing was done upon this ●et●tion , any more than referring it to the next Parliament . In the Case of one Allen Fitzwaren , they Ordered a Writ from the Chancellor of England , to require the Justice of Ireland to examine , whether a Judgment about Title of Land had been given while a Man was absent , and under the King's Protection ; requiring , that if any thing was done contrary to Protection , it should be amended in due manner . And as the Lords in Parliament then exercis'd a Jurisdiction over Ireland ; it appears that out of it the High Admiral of England had Conu●ance , of all maritime Causes , as well throughout Ireland , as England , from the time then beyond the memory of Man , which must relate to the general Prescription , which is at this day as far since as the beginning of R. 1. Son to H. 2. That during the Reign of E. 1. Irel. was govern'd as a part of England , or appurtenant to it ; and that the Laws made here wanted no other Publication , than what was in obedience to the Great Seal of England , affixed to Writs and Charters , or Exemplifications of our Acts of Parliament , by Authority from hence , I think may be beyond dispute : which might excuse my not dwelling upon the unfortunate Reign of E. 2. and yet there are some evidences not to be neglected of England's being then possess'd of its ancient Authority over Ireland : and that , tho' at least from the 3 d. of that King's Reign Mr. M. supposes , that they had a regular Legislature in Ireland . In the 10 th . of that King , the English in Ireland petitioned him for a Constitution , that a Parliament should be holden there once a Year : Upon this and other things then desired , the King , under the Great Seal of England , commands the Justice of Ireland to Summon a Parliament there , to consider what was sit to be done , and to certifie the result into England : upon which the King declared that he would , by the advice of his Counsel ▪ ordain what should be sitting : but nothing more appears of that matter , which was the farthest step towards settling an Annual Parliament in Ireland . In the 12 th . of that King an Act of Parliament was made in England , with this Preamble , Forasmuch as divers People of the Realm of England , and of the Land of Ireland , have hereto fore many times suffered great Mischiefs , Damage , and Disherisons , by reason that in some Cases where the Law failed , no Remedy was ordained ; and also forasmuch as some points of the Statutes heretof●re made , had need of Exposition ; our Lord King Edward , Son to King Edward , desiring that full Right may be done to his People ; at his Parliament holden at York , the third Week after the Feast of St. Michael , the 12th Year of his Reign by the Assent of the Prelates , Earls , Barons , and the Commonalty of his Realm there assembled , hath made these Acts and Statutes following ; the which he willeth to be observ'd in his said Realm , and Land. Though Ireland is in some sense part of the Realm of England , yet here 't is distinguished as a Land intended to be bound , tho it had no Commonalty of its own to represent it in Parliament : and there is new Remedy provided where the Law had failed , as well as the explaining what was Law before : that part at least which creates a Forfeiture of Wine and Victuals sold by any Officer appointed to look after the Assises of them , was absolutely new . This Statute was transmitted to Ireland , by the following Writ , under the Great Seal of England , and the Name of the Party who received it , is enter'd upon Record . Rex Cancel . suo Hibern ' Salutem . Quaedam statuta per nos in Parl. nostro nuper apud Ebor ' convocato , de assensu Prel . Com. Bar. & totius Communitatis , regni nostri ibid ' existentis ; ad Commun . util . regni nostri ac terrae Hibern ' edita , vobis sub sigillo nostro mittimus consignata . Mandantes quod Stat ▪ illa in dicta Cancel lariâ custodiri , ac in rotulis ejusd . Cancel ▪ irrotulari , & sub sigillo nostro quo utimur in Hiberniâ in forma patenti exemplificari , & ad singulas placeas nostras in ter . praed . & singulo● comitat . ejusd . ter . mitti facias , & brevia nostra sub dicto sigillo minist . nostris placearum illar . & Vicecom . dict . Com. quod statuta illa coram ipsis publicari & ea in omnibus & singulis suis artic . quantum ad eor . singulos pertinet , ●irmiter faciant observari . Teste R. apud Clarendon 10 die Sept. An. quarto decimo . The King to his Chancell of Ireland , Greeting , We send you under our Great Seal , certain Statutes made by us in our Parliament lately called together at York , with the Assent of the Prelates , Earls , Barons , and all the Commons of our Kingdom there assembled ; for the Common Vtility of our Kingdom , and Land of Ireland : Commanding you , that those Statutes be kept in the Rolls of the said Chancery , to be enroll'd and exemplified in the Form of a Patent under our Seal which we use in Ireland : and tha● you cause it to be sent to every one of our Places in the said Land , and every County of the same . And our Writs under our said Seal , commanding our Officers of those Places , and Sheriffs of the said Counties , to cause those Statutes to be published before them , and in all and singular their Articles which to every one of them appertain , to be firmly observ'd . Teste the King at Clarendon the 10th of Sept. in the 14th of his Reign . In the same Roll there 's another Writ of the same Form , dated at Nottingham 20 Nov. sending to the Chancellor of Ireland , the Stature of York , and another made before at Lincoln . These Entries explain the general Transmissions ; and shew what was to be done by the Justice of Ireland , in order to the publication of Laws made in Parliaments here , and sent to him : but yet he had no need nor authority to call a Parliament in Ireland , for the publishing any Law made here , unless particularly required under the Great Seal of England . Yet I cannot but admire the force of Mr. M's Imagination , in framing an Argument , on that very Year that those Statutes were sent to Ireland , That the Parliament of England did not take upon them to have any jurisdiction in Ireland , because the King sent his Letters-Patents to the Lord Chief Justice of Ireland commanding that the Irish Natives might enjoy the Laws of England concerning Life and Member ; to which he had been moved by his Parliament at West-minster : which is as much as to say , they used no Jurisdiction because they did . That after this time , that King and his Parliament exercised Jurisdiction over Ireland , appears by the Ordinance made for the State of Ireland , in a Parliament held on the Octaves of St. Martin , in the 17th of his Reign , and not of E. 1. for which I shall refer not only to what I before observed , which may give reasonable satisfaction that no such Ordinance could have been made in the 17th of E. 1. but to the Statute-Rolls , where this is entered among the Statutes of the time of E. 2. next above the Statutes of the time of E. 3. For maintaining the Jurisdiction of England that Statute of Nottingham ordains , That no Pardon for Felony be granted by the Justice of Ireland , nor Seal'd with the King's Seal there , without special Command of the King , under some one of his Seals of England . 1. It being so manifest from undoubted Records , that the Parliaments of England , to the 17 th . of E. 2. exercised an Authority in making Laws to bind Ireland , and that there was a plain and known Method for publishing those Laws in Ireland by virtue of the Great Seal of England , I hope it will be allowed , that the Authority of Sir Richard Bolton's Marginal Note in an Edition of the Irish Statutes , is not enough to induce Men to believe , that in the 13 th . of E. 2. the Statute of Merton ▪ 20 th . H. 3. and some other Statutes made in England , were confirmed in Ireland , as being of no force there till then : And that no other Statutes made in England were of force in Ireland , till confirm'd there . Can any Man think that no part of the Statute of Merton was received for Law in Ireland till the 13 th . of E. 2. particularly , will even Mr. M. believe , that notwithstanding the Record 21. H. 3. of Transmission of so much at least of the Statute of Merton as relates to the Limitation of Writs , yet till the 13 th . of E. 2. the descent in a Writ of Right was to be lay'd from an Ancestor of the time of H. 1. which is 200 Years within One ? Or does he think that the Justice of Ireland , for the time being , would not have been turn'd out , if not impeached , had he not caused the Statutes of West . 1. and 2. and the Statutes of Gloucester , to have been Proclaimed and Observed in Ireland , after they had been delivered to his Clerk in the Parliament at Winchester ? and yet , if there be any thing in Mr. M ▪ s Quotation from Sir Richard Bolton , these were not received for Laws in Ireland till 13. E. 2. But since 't is manifest that those , and the other Statutes afterwards sent over in the time of E. 1. and E. 2. must needs have been put in Execution there ; if there were any such Act of Parliament 13. E. 2. as Mr. M. takes for granted , upon no Authority in comparison with the Records which I have cited ; as to so much of any Acts of Parliament made here , as was not transmitted in the form above shewn , the Enacting them in in Ireland might be the first Publication there : But as to what was contained in the Patent or Charter sent thither , it could be no more than a Declaratory Law , or rather Republication . Sometimes there might have been a special form of Transmission , which as one means of publishing the Laws , might require their Parliament to meet to hear Laws read to them , which would bind them whether they consented or no : or by Writ from hence , a Law or Charter pass'd there might be so republished . Thus 't was beyond Contradiction 12. H. 3. when a Charter of King John's , Sworn to by the Irish , was either sent back , or republished after it had lain there . Rex dilecto & fideli suo Ric. de Burgo Justic . suo Mandamus vobis ●irmiter , praecipientes quatenus certo die & loco faciatis venire coram vobis Arch. Ep. Ab. Pr. Com. & Bar. Mil. & libere tenentes , & Ballivos singulor . Comitat . & coram eis publice legi faciatis cartam Dni . J. Regis Patris nri cui Sigillum sum appensum est quam fieri fecit & jurari à Magnatibus Hib. de legibus & consuetud . Anglicis observandis : & praecipiatis exparte nostrâ quod leges , illas & consuetudines in carta praed . contentas de caetero firmiter tenennt . Et hoc idem per singulos Comitatus Hib. clamari faciatis & teneri , Prohibentes firmiter exparte nostrâ , & super forisfactur . nostram ne quis contra hoc Mandatum venire presumat . The King to his Beloved and Faithful Subject Richard de Burgh , his Justice of Ireland , we command you , firmly requiring , that at a certain day and place , you cause to come before you the Arch-Bishops , Bishops , Abbots , Priors , Earls , & Barons , Knights , & Freeholders , and the Bailiffs of every County : and before them cause publickly to be read the Charter of King John our Father , to which his Seal is affixed , which he caused to be made and sworn by the great Men of Ireland ; concerning the observing in Ireland the Laws and Customs of England . And command them from us , that they , for the future , firmly keep and observe the Laws and Customs in the said Charter contained . And cause this same to be Proclaimed thro' every County of Ireland , firmly Prohibiting in our Name , and under our Forfeiture , that no person presume to the contrary of this our Command . All must agree that this Publication , in so formal a Parliament , and after that , in the several Counties , was not necessary to give Sanction to that Charter , for that it had before : And could be no more than a reminding them of their Duty , or a more solemn Publication of the Law. But that being a Law made here , was held sufficient to make it a Law to the English in Ireland , and that , being transmitted thither under the Great Seal of England , it became a Rule to the Judges there , even in matters happening before the transmission , appears by the following Precedents . A Man having been redisseis'd after the Statute of Merton , 20. H. 3. which had made a Redisseisour lyable to Imprisonment . A Party , who had been so injured , applies to the King for Remedy , and as the Writ to the Justice of Ireland has it , Ideo vobis mittimus sub sigillo nostro constitutionem nuper factam coram nobis & Magnatibus nostris Angliae , de praedicto casu & similiter , de aliis arti●ulis ad emendationem rni nri Mandantes quat . de consilio venererab . Pat. L. Dublin , Arch. constitutionem illam in Curiâ nostra Hib. legi & de caetero firmiter observari , faciatis , & secund . eandem praed . querenti plene justitiam exhiberi faciatis . Therefore we send you , under our Seal , the Constitution , lately made before us and our great Men of England , concerning that Case , and other Articles , for the Amendment of this our Kingdom , commanding , That with the Counsel of the venerable father L. Arch-Bishop of Dublin , you cause that Constitution to be read in our Court of Ireland , and for the future to be firmly observed , and that you fully dojustice to the Complainant according to the same . In the Sense , in which the Parliament 12. of H. 3. was to receive the Charter of King John , and the King's Court or Bench in Ireland was to receive the Statute of Merton , I will agree that Parliaments in Ireland may have received Laws in the time of E. 2. but there 's no colour to believe that they then pretended to more , in relation to Acts of Parliament , sent over to them at large under the Great Seal of England . The Reign of E. 3. I may divide into Three Periods , 1. Before , 2. At , 3. After the main and most express Charter , for a Parliament in Ireland , of any yet cited , or appearing . 1. In the Statute Roll of the beginning of E. 3. there are several entries in Latin of this kind . Mem. that those Statutes were sent into Ireland in the a form of a Patent , with a certain Writ here following . But the entry of the Writ is sometimes omitted , it being look'd on as matter of common form . In the 2 d. of that King , a Statute was made at Northampton , giving a command about Fairs , to all Sheriffs of England , and other Parts . In the 6 th . a Statute was made , supplying the Defects of that Statute , and creating the Forfeiture of double the Value of what should be sold in any Fair , or Market , beyond the time limited for them in the Charters . In the 6 th . of that King , this last a Statute , and all other Statutes made in his Reign to that time , are sent , in the form of a Patent , to Anthony de Lucy , Justice of Ireland , requiring that those Statutes , and all the Articles therein contained , be Proclaimed in the King's Land of Ireland , as well within Liberties , as without ; and that he should cause so much of them as concern'd the b Justice , and the People of that Land , to be firmly kept , and observed . A Statute c 11. of E. 3. provides , That , except the King and his Children , no Person , great nor small , within England , Ireland , and Wales , or so much of Scotland as was then under the King's power , should wear any Cloth , but what was made in England , Ireland , Wales , or such part of Scotland ; upon pain of Forfeiture of the Cloth , and being Punish'd at the King's pleasure . And whereas Mr. M. according to the use which he makes of publications , in or by Parliaments in Ireland , of Laws made in Parliaments of England , would infer , that no Statutes made here against Provisors , could be of force in Ireland till the 32 d. of H. 6. when 't was Enacted there , That all those Laws made in England , as well as in Ireland , be had and kept in force ; 't is evident , that a E. 3 d's Parliament and his Council acting in Parliament , held , that there was no need of other publishing and enforcing those Laws , than was usual by virtue of the Great Seal of England . The Commons b Petitioned , that the Provisions and Ordinances made in the Parl. 17. of that King , concerning Provisions and Reservations from the See of Rome , be affirmed by a Statute to endure for ever : And particularly , c that if any Arch-Bishop , or other Spiritual Patron , do not present within Four Months after Voidance , by a Man's accepting any Benefice from the See of Rome , the Right of Patronage should accrue to the King : And they pray , d that Commissions and Writs be sent to all ports of England , Wales , and Ireland , and other Places within every County , as there should be occasion , to Apprehend all those who should carry any of the Bulls , Process , or Instruments then complained of . The Answer in French is thus , e 'T is accorded and assented by the King , the Earls , Barons , Justices , and other Sages of the Law , that the Things above-written be done , and in reasonable form , according to the prayer of the Commons . Upon which , there 's no doubt but either a Writ was sent to Ireland , with this Act of Parliament , in the form of a Charter , to warrant Commissions for that purpose in Ireland ; or otherwise , Commissions might issue from hence , to apprehend such Offenders as should be found there . The Statute of the Staple , 27. E. 3. taking notice of the Damages to the People of the King's Realm , and of his Lands of Wales and Ireland , because the Staples had been held out of the said Realm , and Lands , appoints places for the Staple in Ireland , as well as in England and Wales ; and creates a Forfeiture of the Wool , and other Staple Commodities , which any English , Irish , or Welsh , should carry out of the said Realm , and Lands : with the like Penalty , if they should receive Gold or Silver for them , elsewhere than at the respective Staples . At which Staples 't is to be observed , that there were paid Duties and Customs , granted by Parliament in England . Another Statute , of the same Year , appoints , That all Wines in England , Ireland , and Wales , be Gauged , on pain of Forfeiture , and further Punishment at the King's pleasure . And but Two Years before , the Statute of Treasons , which does not name Ireland , was made for a Law to the whole Realm , and for Ireland as part of it : But none of the King's Subjects in Ireland were within that Law , unless they were to be adjudged Subjects of the Realm of England . And yet this Statute is ordered to be published and observed in Ireland , as well as England , in this manner . a To the Sheriff of Kent , greeting . We send you , under our Seal , certain Statutes , made in our Parliament assembled at Westminster , on the Feast of St. Hillary last past , by us , the Prelates , Dukes , Earls , Barons , and others of the Commonalty of our Realm of England , to the said Parliament summoned : Commanding , that you cause the said Statutes to be read in your full County ; and that they be firmly observed , and kept . Teste the King at Westm . the 6 th . day of May. b The like Writs , of the same Date , are sent to the Justice of Ireland , what ought to be changed being changed . But if the Parliaments of England had , or exercised any Jurisdiction or Authority over Ireland hitherto ; at least , 't is to be thought , that 't was all taken from 'em by a Charter of E. 3. part of which he transcribes out of Mr. Prynn , but for his satisfaction , I shall give him more of it from the Record , now to be seen in the Tower , 't is a Charter of R. 2. of an Ordinance for the State of Ireland , reciting and confirming the Charter 31. E. 3. beginning thus : Quia ex frequenti side dignor insinuatione accepimus , quod terra nra Hiberniae , ecclesiaque Hibernica , ac clerus & populus ejusdem nobis subditus ; ob defectum boni regiminis , ac per negligentiam & in curiam Ministror regior ibin , tam major , quam minor , hactenus turbati fuerint multipliciter & gravati : Marchiaeque terrae ipsius juxta hostes positae , per hostiles invasiones vastatae , occisis Marchionibus , & depraedatis , & eorum habitationibus enormiter concrematis , caeterisque coactis loca propria deserere , quibusdam videlicet ad hostes , caeteris ad loca extranea fugientibus . Diversaeque partes dictar . Marchiar . taliter desolatae & derelictae , per hostes eosdem occupatae : nostraque & ejusdem terrae negotia incongruè & inutiliter , leges & approbatae consuetudines minus debite observatae , populo nro bonis & rebus suis contra justitiam , legem , & formam Statutor inde editor . diversimode spoliat . paxque nostra laesa & minime custodita . Ac proditores , Latrones , & Malefactores , non sicut convenit castigati : Quorum malorum aliorumque occasione , majora damna irreparabillia , evenire , quod absit , timentur , nisi praemissis opportunis reme diis occurrat . Nos desiderantes utili regimini & quieti eorund . terrae & populi providere quae sequuntur : propterea , deassensu consili nostri , ordinanda duximus , & firmiter observanda . In prim . viz. volumus & praecipimus , quod sancta Hibernica ecclesia , suas libertates , liber . & consuetudines illaesas habeat , & eis liberè gaudeat & utatur . Item volumus & praecipimus quod nostra , & ipsius terrae negotia & ardua , in consiliis , per peritos consiliarios nostros , ac praelatos & magnates & quosdam de discretioribus , & probatioribus hominibus de Partibus Vicinis , ubi ipsa consilia teneri contigerit , propter hoe evocandos . In Parliamentis vero per ipsos Consiliarios nros , ac Prelatos & Proceres aliosque de terra nostra proutmos , exigit , secundum justitiam , legem , consuetudinē , & rationem , tractentur , deducantur , & fideliter , timore favore odio aut pretio postpositis , discutiantur , & etiam terminentur . Because from the frequent Relations of Persons to be credited , we understand that our Land of Ireland , and the Irish Church , and the Clergy , and People subject to us , thro' defect of good Government , and by the negligence and carelesness of the King's Officers there , both great and small , has hitherto been manifoldly troubled and aggriev'd , and the Marches of that land plac'd against the Enemies wasted , the Marches being kill'd and despoil'd , & their Houses enormously burnt , and the rest being forc'd to forsake their habitations , some flying to the Enemies , and others to Foreign Parts . And divers parts of the said Marches so desolated and forsaken , have been possess'd by those Enemies , and the Affairs of us and that Land , are incongruously and unprofitably , and the Laws and approved Customs not duly observed ; our People being in divers manners spoil'd of their Goods and things , contrary to Justice , Law , and the form of Statutes in those cases provided : And our Peace is broken , and not in the least kept . And Traytors , Robbers , & Malefactors not punish'd as they ought : By occasion of which , and other Evils , greater irreparable Damages , which , God forbid , are feared as likely to happen , unless the Premises meet with opportune Remedies : We desiring to provide for the convenient Government & Quiet of that Land , & People ; therefore we by the consent of our Council , have thought fit to provide these following Particulars to be ordain'd , and observ'd : In the first place , that the Holy Irish Church have its Liberties , & free Customs unhurt , and enjoy & usethem freely . Also , we will and command , That the Affairs and Arduous Matters of us and that Land , in Councils by our Learned Counsellors , and Prelates , and great Men , and some of the more Discreet & Honest of the parts neighbouring upon the place , where those Counsels shall happen to be held , to be summoned for this purpose ; But in the Parliaments by those our Counsellours and Prelates , Peers , and others of our Land , as custom requires , be according to Justice , Law , Custom , and Reason , brought , and faithfully , Fear , Favour , Hatred or Price , being disregarded , discussed , and also determined . Then particular Provisions are made here , notwithstanding the Allowance of Parliaments there : Among which , 1. That Men guilty of Broakage , should be Punished by the Justice and Council of Ireland , and fined , and amoved from their Offices ; as should seem reasonable to the Justice and Counsel . 2. That no Purveyance be taken contrary to the form of b Statutes and Articles , made and published , for the profit of his People , in Parliaments , and other great Councils . But if there be any force in Mr. M's way of Arguing , the Statutes against Purveyors were not binding to Ireland till 18. H. 6. when 't is Enacted , By a Statute made in Ireland , that all the Statutes made in England against the Extortions and Oppressions of Purveyers are to be holden and kept in all points , and put in Execution in this Land of Ireland . 3. It provides against Robberies , and for Hue-and-Crys , according to the Statute of Winchester . 4. That no Pardon be pass'd but in Parliaments or Councils , by the assent and counsel of the said Parliaments , and Counsellors . And that there be no general Pardon : but that the Offences be specified and expressed * according to the tenor of a certain Statute , by the King and his Council of England , publish'd , and sent to Ireland to be observed . 5. The Charter , taking Notice that false intelligence us'd to be sent from Ireland to England , forbids it under b grievous Forfeiture , declaring , that if , for the future , the Prelates , the great Men , Commonalty , or any other , should misinform the King and his Council , they should be duly Punished . 6. Whereas they us'd to Exhibit against one another , several scandalous and vexatious Libels and Bills , it provides , that they being reduced to Writing , c be , under the Seal of the Chancellor for the time being , transmitted to the King's Justice ▪ Chancellor , and Treasurer of Ireland , who are thereby impowered to do Justice : but this is by virtue of the great Seal of England . 7. It Impowers the d Justice , calling to him the Chancellor and Treasurer , with some Prelates and Earls , whom he shall know to be fit , or that they ought to be summoned , to determine the Differences between the English of Irish Extractions , and which were or should afterwards be of English . 8. It requires the Justice and his Associates , when there was any e special Cause , to certifie to the King & his Council of England , the Names of all Persons guilty , and their Offences . Since Mr. M. having , as he fancied , a clearly made it out , that b for Ireland to be bound by Acts of Parliament of England , is against several Charters of Liberties granted unto the Kingdom of Ireland , thinks he had no need to add any other Authority than a piece of that Charter , of the substance of which I have given an Account , with all the distinguishing Expressions ; I might well enough close here , and leave it to himself to consider , whether when a Parliament is granted , or allowed , to the Land of Ireland , in the fullest terms that ever it was in any King's Reign , that can be shewn ; there was not at the same time a full exercice of the Power of the Crown and Kingdom of England , in making Laws , and requiring the Execution of others made in England , without any desire or expectation of a Ratification there ? And whether even their Parliaments are not threatned , if they send false intelligence to England ? For full proof that in this Ordinance , the Authority of the Parliament of England was rete●●●d and asserted , I must observe to Mr. M. that this Noble Charter to Ireland , is but according to the usual Methods of Publishing Acts of Parliament , put under the great Seal , and thereby made a Patent or Charter : but 't was an Ordinanc● , a or Act , of Parliament , for the State of Ireland , as may be seen by the Statute Roll. 3. After this Statute mentioning Parliaments in Ireland , the Parliament here exercised the same Authority in making Ordinances and Laws for Ireland , and the King and his Council held Ireland to be bound by those Laws , as part of the Realm of Eng land . A Statute made in the 36 th of that King provides , that no Lord of England , nor any other Person of the Realm , except the King and Queen , take purveyance on pain of Life and Member ; and takes from Mayors and Constables of Staples , all Jurisdiction in Criminal Causes : but I do not find any mention of Ireland , and yet that both King and Council judged , that the publishing them in Ireland would avail as much as the publishing them in England , appears by the Writ to the Sheriff of Essex and Hertfordshire , requiring him to publish the Statutes and Ordinances then made by the King , with the common assent of the Prelates , great Men , and Commonalty , in his a full Parliament at Westminster ; and to return the Writ , with an Account of the Execution of it to the King in his Chancery . b This Writ is tested by the King. And in c the same manner commands are sunt to the Justice of Ireland . But notwithstanding this Transmission to Ireland of Statutes made here , one of which is about Purveyance , which is at least the Second of this kind made to bind Ireland , Mr. M. may if he pleases , hold , that this was not Law in Ireland , till d 18. H. 6. But after all , I would intreat the favour of Mr. M. to inform me , whether , according to himself , such Acts of Parliament in Ireland , were needful to Confirm Laws made here ; when , if he puts a right construction upon the Record above cited , * 9 E. 1. and of the Record , † 50 E. 3. of a Writ from hence for the Expences of the Men of Ireland , who last came over to serve in Parliament in England ; The Men of Ireland us'd to send their Representatives hither , to the making the Laws by which they were to be bound : till 𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁 this sending of Representatives out of Ireland to the Parliaments of England , was found in process of time to be very troublesome and inconvenient . But whatever Mr. M. may imagin in this matter , that sort of representation of Ireland in the Parliaments of England , was no more than they had in the time of H. 3. and have 't is likely generally had to this day , of persons entrusted to sollicit the Affairs of Ireland , upon their numerous Petitions to the King , and his Council in Parliament ; for which Receivers and Triers used to be appointed , or other matters of concern to them . But whether they were chosen by their * Parliaments , when they had them , or elsewhere , their Expences , as appears by the Record cited by Mr. M. were levied by Authority under the Great Seal of England . But I will shew a Record of the time of H. 3. when I will agree , that they had a Nuntii , Messengers , deputed , as 't is likely , from a Parliament in Ireland . H. 3. in his Writ , or Letter , to the Barons of Ireland , takes notice , that , by the b advice of his People , he had given a favourable answer to some of their requests , made known by persons deputed from them . But because those persons alledged , that their Instructions were to insist upon all the particulars of their Requests ; the King sends a Precept to the Justice of Ireland , under the Great Seal of England , requiring him , as it seems , to summon a Parliament ; for , he was carefully to open the matters before the Barons of Ireland , and to know what they would give for the Liberties they desired . The Justice had no Authority to have those Liberties setled in a Parliament there , but was to signify their Answer to the King ; upon which the King would do what should be fitting , without taking any Right from them . That this was to be done in Parliament here , and that the Messengers from Ireland were no Members of that Council of the King's People which sent the Answer , is beyond dispute ; nor is there colour to believe , that any of their Deputies , or Representatives , had in any King's Reign more to do here , than those of the time of H. 3. had .. But surely no Man but Mr. M. will conclude , that such Instances , or the mention of the Consent , or Petition of the Irish in some Particulars , manifestly shew , that the King and Parliament of England , would not enact Laws to bind Ireland , without the concurrence of the Representatives of that Kingdom . Since therefore I have proved to the contrary , from H. 2's first acquisition , till towards the latter end of E. 3. and Mr. M. declares , that he will consider the more antient Precedents of English Statutes which particularly name Ireland , and are therefore said to be of force in that Kingdom ; I might rest here , did not Mr. M. take notice of the Statute of the Staple , 2 H. 6. and the Resolution of the Judges upon it , 1 H. 7. in such a manner as makes it requisite to be set in a truer Light. The Merchants of Waterford , pursuant to the Licence granted them by E. 3. and confirmed by E. 4. had carried Wool , contrary to the ordinary provision of the Statute 2 H. 6. which being seized by the Treasurer of Cal●is as forfeited , part to the King , and part to himself as discoverer ; The Merchants by Bill in the Exchequer here , pray restitution . 'T is to be observed , that the Act upon which the Wool was seized , tho it creates a forfeiture of the value of Wool , Butter , Cheese , and other staple Commodities , carried from England , Ireland , and Wales , to other parts than Calais , and gives the Informer a 4 th of what shall be carried contrary to that Act , from any County of the Realm , makes no mention of Ireland as to the Informers share ; and therefore his Interest could bear no debate , unless Ireland had been included , and the Counties of Ireland were Counties , within the Realm of England . But Mr. M. says , the 2 d Question was , Whether the King could grant his Licence contrary to the Statute , and especially where the Statute gives half the Forfeiture to the Discoverer . But he might have observed , that the Statute has an express saving of the King's Prerogative , which goes thrô the whole , and certainly related to the King 's granting Licences to the contrary in some particular Cases : Notwithstanding which , 't was the opinion of the Parliament the next year , that this saving was not sufficient : and therefore the King , at the grievous complaint of the Commons , impowers the Chancellor of England to give Licences for Butter and Cheese , at his discretion . As to the question , Whether Ireland was bound by the Stat. 2 H. 6. Mr. M. pretends to transcribe verbatim , what relates to it in the Year-Book , 2 R. 3. The matter , as he observes , was brought before all the Judges of England in the Exchequer Chamber ; but after [ ibi ] he omits the word [ dicebatur ] it was said , not per curiam , but at the most only by some Judg or Judges ; and might have been only by one of the Counsel for the Merchants . Whoever then held that Ireland was not bound by that Act , might have spoken it in relation to the Informer , who could claim no share of any Forfeiture incur'd from Ireland , unles the Counties of Ireland , were taken to be Counties within the Realm of England : But even as to this matter they were soon convinced of their mistake , in thinking Ireland was not bound by that Statute . Mr. M. might have learn'd from the Year-Book , 1 H. 7. that this was so far from the resolution of the Court 2 R. 3. that there was no Judgment , but the Bill fell upon the demise of that King ; which till the Statute 1 E. 6. was a discontinuance of all real , personal , and mix'd Actions commenced in Majesty's Courts , and other Courts of Record . And therefore 1 H. 7. the Suit was begun again , as if commenced in that King's Reign ; and then the question coming before all the Judges in the Exchequer Chamber , Hussey the Chief-Justice , delivering the Judgment of the Court , declared , with the assent of the rest of the Judges , that Ireland was bound by that Act , and I leave to Mr. M. to make it out , that this was directly contrary to the Judges opinion in the 2 d of R. 3. or that they were all positive , that within the Land of Ireland , the Authority of the Parliament of England will not affect them . If there had been any such opinion , 't was not delivered as the Judgment of the Court ; and however , the Resolution 1 H. 7. has setled the Point another way . This Case is abridg'd , and the Resolution receiv'd for Law by Brook , a Learned Judg in the Reign of H. 8. without any query , which is usual where he doubted : his tamen nota , that Ireland is a Kingdom by it self , and has Parliaments of its own , implies no more than that this , tho objected 2 R. 3. was of no weight to alter that judgment ; and is as much as to say , a Kingdom may be distinct from the Crown of a Kingdom to which it is annexed , and have Parliaments at home ; and yet be govern'd by the Statute Laws of that other Kingdom as subordinate to it . And tho the naming that subordinate Kingdom in an Act of Parliament here , or the otherwise manifesting an intention to bind it , is no step towards obtaining a Parliamentary consent in Ireland ; yet 't is towards the submission and acquiescence of the People to those Laws , by which they and their Forefathers had consented to be governed . I may now leave it to Mr. M. to answer his own Questions , Shall Ireland receive Charters of Liberties , and be no partakers of the freedoms therein contained ? or do these words signify in England one thing , and in Ireland no such thing ? Nor need I much fear his terrible Expostulation , Whether it be not against natural Equity and Reason , that a Kingdom regulated within it self , and having its own Parliaments , should be bound , without their consent , by the Parliament of another Kingdom ? But I should hope that he will admit it to be against natural Reason , to go away with a Conclusion , without some colour of proving the Premises ; and therefore before he had laid it home a to English hearts to consider , Whether Proceedings only of thirty seven years standing , shall be urged against a Nation , to deprive them of the Rights and Liberties which they enjoyed for five hundred years before ; He would have done well to have proved , that any one Century , or much less number of years , for these five hundred years & more , Ireland was ever , according to the terms of his own Question , regulated within it self ; or , that 't is a Kingdom of more than b one hundred and sixty years standing . But it seems just * thirty seven years since , and never before , the Rights and Liberties which they had quietly enjoyed till then , were invaded , and from that day to this have been constantly complained of . 'T is not to be expected , that a man who remembers so little of those many Acts of Parliament made in Ireland , which might have moderated his assurance in this matter , should keep in memory even his own concessions to the contrary ; as where he grants , that the Parliaments of England did at least claim a superiority , before the 10 th of H. 4. and 29 H. 6. But then he says , We have not one single Instance of an English Act of Parliament ▪ expresly claiming this right of binding us ; but we have several Instances of Irish Acts of Parliament expresly denying this Subordination . Answ . 1. As to the express claiming an Authority to do what is done , by virtue of an Authority always suppos'd ; that 's so far from an Argument against it , that it shews 't was never call'd in question . 2. No Act of Parliament , even in Ireland , can be shewn or pretended , denying the Subordination ; not but that there might be some question of the general binding , for want of due publication , either under the Great Seal of England ; or of otherwise knowing the Intention of the Parliament of England : This , not the Authority , was the Ambiguity mentioned in the Statute of Ireland , 8 E. 4. in relation to a Statute 6 R. 2. which , without naming Ireland , alters a Law that did name it . 3. If there were such Act of Parliament in Ireland , 13 E. 2. as 't is supposed that a certain Judg in Ireland had seen , and that we might rely upon his Judgment in the sense of it ; receiving some Laws before that time made in England , and suspending the execution of others ; what I have shewn above from undoubted Records , may be enough to shew , that this would not in the least weaken the Right of the Parliament of England , exercised before and after that time : And if there were another Statute , 10 H. 4. that no Laws should be of force , unless they were allow'd and published by a Parliament in Ireland : This , tho 't is a strain farther than 't is likely any Parliament of Ireland ever yet went , would not necessarily infer any more , than that the Laws made in England should be thus published , to the end they might be more generally known ; not but that the intention of the Parliament of England , made known under the great Seal of England , was as much to be obeyed as their own Record shews that 't was 29. E. 1. The Authorities above ▪ cited having manifested the several Titles which the Crown and Kingdom of England have to the Land of Ireland ; and that from the 18 th . of H. 2. at the latest , downwards as far as Mr. M. makes any controversie , neither the Irish Nation , nor the English there , have been govern'd without the interposition of the Parliament of England ; and that the Parliament of Ireland had all its Laws made here , or derived under Authority from hence , and that not from the King 's alone , or the Kings and their Pri●y Counsels ▪ but their Parliament ; that the Parliaments of Ireland have had no Provision for their being holden within any certain time , nor ever had Authority given them to act as independent on the Parliament of England ; I may well conclude , that the right of the Parliament of England to bind Ireland by Laws made here , without any Members chosen for Ireland , is so far from being departed from , that 't is strengthened and confirmed by the continual usage of the Parliaments of England , and submission of the Parliaments and People of Ireland : to which 't will be needless to add the consideration of the inestimable Treasure spent in several Ages , for maintaining the English Interest there ; and the late freeing it from an Universal Insurrection , and Usurpation . 4. Having us'd the proper means to convince Mr. M. by the true argumentum ad hominem , shewing that the chief Weapons which he uses turn strongly against himself ; I need the less apprehend the natural force of his reasoning upon dry Notions . The right says he , which England may pretend to for binding us by their Acts of Parliament , can be founded only on the imaginary Title of Conquest , or Purchase , or on Precedents and Matters of Record . Wherein he admits , that Precedents and Matters of Record , may give a Right , which is neither by Conquest nor Purchase : and of this the Authors he refers to might satisfie him at large . I 'll agree with him , that on consent depends the obligation of all humane Laws : insomuch that without it , by the unanimous Opinions of all Jurists no sanctions are of any force . But do any of them say that the consent is necessary to be exprest , and that immediate ? if it were the Sons could not be bound by those Laws which their Fathers chose , in restriction of natural liberty ; and he might have observ'd , by his own Authors , and even in the Words cited by himself , that approbation , not only Men give , who personally declare their assent , by Voice , Sign , or act ; but also when others do it in their names , by right originally at least derived from them , as in Parliaments , Councils , &c. To be commanded we do consent , when that Society whereof we are part , hath at any time before consented . Farther yet , whatever Freedoms the Progeny of the English and Britains now in Ireland claim with the natural Born Subjects of England , as being descended from them ; 't is certain , every Man here does not , as an English-man , claim to be a Member of Parliament , or to have a Voice in chusing one : But there are many without this Privilege , who have been concluded by the consent of their Forefathers , and their own ▪ agreeing to stay within a Kingdom govern'd by such Laws , to which they owe Obedience and Submission , at least as long as they will receive the benefit of them , and the protection which they assure . This is the case of those Englishmen , who chuse to live in Ireland , under the Protection of England ; without which the Protestants there could not have subsisted , in any Age since the Reformation : and if the Irish Natives are not conquer'd , or the Right of Conquest over them , ought not to be carryed beyond the reparation of the Damages sustained from them ; or if a just conquest gets no power , but only over those who have actually assisted in that unjust force ; and if the right of conquest extends little f●rther , than over the Lives of the Conquer'd , but their posterity can lose no benefit thereby : If an outragious and Brutal Enemy , may not be restrain'd from doing farther mischief , by the taking from him that Power and Estate which would enable him to carry on his Designs ; if the posterity may not suffer in the consequence of this , as the aggressor's property is become the Conqueror's ; if the Children may not be restrain'd from revenging their Father's Quarrel ; let the English in Ireland look to it , how to ju●●ifie those Possessions which they enjoy , by the help of the Crown and Kingdom of England : and if their Consciences are squeamish , let them renounce their Right to the Lands of the Natives ▪ but let them not bring in to question the Right of Engl. to all Foreign Plantations : and let them never fear that equal Power here , to which a great part of the English Nation are resigned , without any other kind of consent , than the People of Ireland have given , to the Laws made in England , with intention to bind them , and be published there . As to his notion of Purchase ; whenever Ireland will repay the value of the Purchase , that inestimable and infinite expence of Men , Money , Victuals , and Arms , which their own Parliaments own to have protected and supported them for several Ages ; there 's no great question but England would be willing to leave 'em to their own ways . Whereas he will suppose , that the Authority , which the Lords and Commons of England have exercised from Age to Age , in relation to Ireland , would imply that the Parliament of England have claim'd a coordinate Power with the King ; what is this but to argue , that in relation to England the Parliament is coordinate ? however , as by Parliament he means only the States of the Kingdom ; 't is evident this insinuation proceeds from his not observing the Gothick constitution , for which he would be thought very zealous ▪ but might have known , that the States of the Kingdom , or the ordines regni , are those who are entituled to meet the King in Person , or by representation , in his Parliaments ; where the King is a distinct Body Politick by himself : and , having the Supremacy , is manifestly above the ordines regni . But tho' the Head which Mr. M. raises , about the suppos'd injury to Prerogative , be only upon a pretended coordinate Power with the King , he carries it farther : and will have it , that for the States of this Realm to use an Authority , tho' subordinate to the King , to introduce new Laws , or repeal old , establish'd in Ireland , is a violation of the Const●tution of Ireland under Boyning's Act , and of the Prerogative of the Crown of England ; which he supposes to have been highly advanced by that Statute speaking of the effect of which he says , The King's Prerogative is advanced to a much higher pitch than ever was challeng'd by the King 's in England , and the Parliament of Ireland stands almost in the same bottom as the King does in England : I say ; almost on the same b●ttom ; for the Irish Parliament have not only a Negative ( as the King has in England ) to wha●ever Laws the King and his Pri●y Councils of both , or either Kingdom , shall lay before them ; but have also a liberty of proposing to the King and his Privy Council here , such Laws as the Parliament of Ireland think expedient to be pass'd : which Laws being thus proposed to the King , and put into form , and transmitted to the Parliament here of Ireland , according to Poyning's Act must be pass'd or rejected in the very words , even to a little , as they are laid before our Parliament ; we cannot alter the least Iota . In this Narrative of their Constitution under that Law , he has omitted the mentioning what is very material , that the Kings answer to what they propo●e , is to be transmitted under the great ●eal of England , and this is to be the Licence and Authority for the holding a Parliament in Ireland ; and therefore their Acts of Parliament since that settlement , mention their being held by Authority under the Great Seal of England . And there were two obvious ends and effects of this Law , as Mr. M. himself owns , 1. The prevent●on of any thing passing in the Parliament of Ireland surreptitiously , to the prejudice of the King or the English Interest of Ireland : to which I must add , or of England . 2. To take from the Irish there , all colour of pretence of holding Parliaments as an independent Kingdom by virtue of any Authority within that Land. But how the King's Prerogative in the Legislature was advanced by this I do not understand : since long before , as well as notwithstanding this supposed Constitntion of an Independent Parliament , held by Authority from the Great Seal of England ; the King had , and has , the Prerogative , not only to dissolve the Irish Parliaments at his Pleasure ; but never to call any : which this Gentleman ought to fear , least such a claim as he makes might occasion : and I would gladly know , what part of their Constitution provides for the frequent holding of Parliaments in Ireland : yet frequency of Parliaments in England , is an undoubted part of the Fundamental Constitution of the English Monarchy . Farther , is it any advance to the Prerogative in the Legislature , that a Prince who has the full exercise of an absolute Legislature at home , is only possessed of a Provision against having any attempt made , to the lessening that his settled and indubitable Prerogative ? I must needs say this Gentleman has a way of arguing beyond my apprehension ▪ for I cannot see the consequence , how the Prerogative should be advanced , if , as he will have it , the Irish Parliament is put almost on the same bottom , as that the King stands on in England : if it be so , I should think it a lessening of the Prerogative , to have an Irish Parliament almost coordinate with him : which Mr. M. is very fearful least an English Parliament should pretend to . And I as little understand the reason he gives , why the Parliament of Ireland stands almost upon the same bottom with the King ; for says he , they have not only a Negative Vote as the King has in England , but liberty to propose ; yet the Laws must be pass'd or rejected without alteration : This I take to be Foreign to the bottom on which , either the King or that Parliament , stands . If it be meant that they are , in a manner , as absolute in this negative and liberty of purposing , as the King is in England : since it relates only to Law ▪ first desired from Ireland , either by the Privy Council ▪ or Parliament there ; this Constitution of their Parliament , is so far from giving them a negative to the Laws pass'd in England , with declared intention to bind them in Ireland , that the Authority of England is wove into the very Constitution ; and the Parliaments of Ireland own that Authority by their very Sitting and Enacting . M● . M. having represented that Consti●ution of their Parliaments , by which he thinks they stand almost upon the same bottom as the King did here , makes this strong assumption . If therefore the Legislature of Ireland stand on this foot in relation to the King , and to the Parliament of Ireland ; and the Parliament of England do remove it from this bottom , and assume it to themselves , where the King's Prerogative is much narrower , and as it were reversed ( for there the King has only a negative Vote ) I humbly conceive 't is an encroachment on the King's Prerogative . But he might consider , 1. That as here by the Parliament he takes Lords and Commons without the King ; he mistakes the Fact in relation to their exercice of Power : for they do not assume to themselves the Power of making any Law , but with , and under the King. 2. Neither do they , in the highest exercice of their Power , take from the Irish any thing allowed or directed by Poyning's Law , or any other Constitution . 3. They do but assert the Chief Prerogative of the Crown of England , by which ▪ due consent being bad , our Kings give Laws to this Realm , and all the Dominions belonging to it . 4. The ancient course of the Proceedings of the Parliaments of England ▪ and their making all manner of Provisions for the Government of Ireland , evince , that Poyning's Law was rather an Indulgence to the English there , directing a Method for their maintaining the face of a Legislature among themselves , than any restraint of Power before vested in the Parliaments of England . And after all , this Law was never , as I take it , confirm'd by a Parliament of England . I must not here omit the consequences which Mr. M. draws , from the Parliament of England's pretending Power to impose any one Law upon Ireland . 1. That 't will naturally introduce the Taxing them without their consent . 2. That 't will leave the People of Ireland in the greatest confusion imaginable : that they are not permitted to know , which is the Supreme Authority which they are bound to obey , whether the Parliament of England , or that of Ireland or both ; and that the uncertainty is or may be made a pretence for disobedience . 3. That 't will be highly inconvenient for England ; may make the Lords and People of Ireland think they are not well used , and may drive them into Discontent . 1. Not here to consider , how far the Lordship of the Land of Ireland may infer the Taxing it ; if it should refuse to concur as it ought , to its own Preservation : since the Law of necessity is no farther to be used , or considered , than while the necessity is apparent ; I may say , that this is no consequence to be apprehended , and that as the Right of Taxing , does not follow from the Right of Governing ; and the Nature of the Government depends upon the first Submission , and that Interpretation and Confirmation of it , which both the governing Nation , and the governed have put upon it : I must infer , with deference to the National Authority , that the Power which England has from the time of H. 2. claimed and exercised over Ireland , does not naturally introduce the Taxing them without their con-Consent ; yet , if the Modern Precedents of English Acts of Parliament alledg'd against Mr. M's Notion , are Innovations , and only of Thirty seven Years standing , depriving them of the Rights and Liberties which they enjoyed for five hundred Years before , and which were invaded without their consent ; such an Invasion would naturally introduce the Taxing them without their Consent . But since England uses no Power which it has not generally used for these 500 Years , he should avoid putting it to the necessity , or temptation to go farther . 2. As to the supposed uncertainty where the Supream Authority resides ; he might have found that pass'd dispute in their own Statutes ; and yet their Denyals could be of no weight , till they had absolutely renounced the Protection of England ; and indeed must be thought to have come in surreptitiously , without the due care of the Governours , there , under the Crown of England ; as well as without the notice of the Nation which has hitherto protected and supported them . However , the Obedience which that Nation has from H. 2d's Time , pay d to the Laws of England , after they had been duly pubiished by Authority under the Great Seal of England , might have sufficiently taught them where the real Legislature is vested , and by them and their Forefathers acknowledged . And since he admits that till a Regular Legislature was established in Ireland by the Irish voluntary Submission to , and acceptance of the Laws and Government of England , we must repute them to have sub●itted themselves to the Statute Laws made under H. 2. King John , and H. 3. and their Predocessors ; If a Kingdom can have no Supreme within it self , and a Subordinate Parliament is no Parliament as he would infer ; he must thank himself for the Consequence , that therefore they have neither a Kingdom , nor a Parliament : and then by his own confession , they are as much to be govern'd by the Statutes now made in England , as their Predecessors were in the Times of King John , and H. 3. 3. As to the imagined Inconvenience to England , and almost threatned Defection from the Crown of the Kingdom , this Gentleman's Undertaking makes it evident , that the Authority ought the rather to be exerted , to help some Men's Understandings , least such a shew of Arguments , and popular Flourishes , should encourage them to act as if they were a compleat Kingdom within themselves , with a King at the Head of them , during whose Absence , or professing a Religion contrary to that which the generality of the People profess , they might assert the Right of a Free Kingd . subject to no Man's Laws , but what they had consented to immediately , or permitted to grow into a Custom . Since this Gentleman thinks he has silenced all the Patriots of Liberty and Property , by his warm Appeals to them ▪ and wheadling Notions of the inherent , and unalienable Rights of Mankind ; and , howevre that he , has engag'd the Crown of his side , by adorning it with a Prerogative to govern Ireland without any relation to the pu●lick good of that Kingdom ▪ the rightful Possession of which , ca●●ies Ireland as an Appendant to the Imperial Crown ; I must desire him to consider whether in this , as well as other Particulars before observed , the Charge of Inconsistency , will not fall upon him more justly than upon the Lord Coke . A little to qualifie this heat , upon the suppos'd Injury to Prerogative , or common Right , I shall recommend these Heads to his serious Consideration . 1. Whether he does not yield , that if there were a Submission and Consent , to such Laws for Government , as England should from time to time publish , to be obeyed in Ireland ; this would be no injury to the Common Rights of Mankind ? 2. Whether his Tragical Exclamations , against those who have acted contrary to what he takes to be the Right of the English Proprietors in Ireland , are not founded upon the Supposition ; that those Acts of Parliaments there , which have been made of late Days , with express intention of binding Ireland , are Innovations ? 3. Whether it being evident , that the Laws made here , have for so many Ages been enforced and submitted to ▪ as binding Ireland ; an English-man in Ireland has more reason to complain of a Law made here , than a Wealthy Merchant Free of no Corporation , or any English-man who●e Profit obliges him to a continuance in Foreign Parts ? 4. Whether all the English Treasure which has been spent , and Lives lost for the Reduction of Ireland , were absolutely at the Disposal of the Princes , or directed by any of their Parliaments ? 5. Whether a Law Book digested in the Time of H. 2. as 't is suppos'd , by Publick Authority , does not shew , that in the Notion of that very Time , when Mr. M. supposes that the Right of the Crown of England over Ireland , was first acquired , there was , or might be Treason against the Kingdom of England , as well as against the King ? 6. Whether the submitting to take the English Laws from the King , implyed the taking them from him alone ; unless he made Laws in England , without the Consent of the States of the Kingdom of England ? 7. Whether if the English modus tenendi Parliamenta , being , as Mr. M. thinks he has proved , transmitted to Ireland , by H. 2. stiling himself Conqueror of Ireland ; after that , a Parliament of Ireland , held in that form , should have Voted themselves independant upon the Parliament of England ; would not every Member have been liable to an Impeachment for Treason against the King and Kingdom of England ? 8. If by Municipal Laws , or the Provision of the Common Law of England , in Cases not particularly express'd , the Son may justly suffer in the Consequence of his Father's Forfeiture for Treason ; may not the same Reason hold for a dependent Nation ? 9. Whether Jurists , universally agreed to be well skill'd in the Law of Nations , and even such as hold the People or Community to be the common Subject of Power , do not maintain , that as well the Dominion or Power vested in the People , as that which was in the Prince , may be acquired by another Prince , or State ? 10. Whether they do not hold , that such acquisition made in one Age , and continued , lays an obligation upon Posterity to submit to it ? 11. Whether they do not generally hold , that Protection is a good foundation of Power ; and that this confirms the Submissions of Publick Societies anciently made , to the Nature of that Government which they had subjected themselves to , and to the governing Families ? 12. Whether the Protection which the stronger Kingdom has continued to give to a weaker , is not at least as forceable an Argument for Obedience , as that protection which any Nation does , or can receive from the Prince who is at the Head of it ? 13. Whether our Saviour's Observation upon the Roman penny , and St. Paul's Epîstle to the Romans , did not establish a general Rule of Subjection ? 14. Whether the Jews , and other Nations subject to the Roman Empire , had not much more plausible pretences for casting off the Roman Yoak , than the Irish have for disowning the English Legislature ? 15. Whether our Victorious and Heroical Kings , E. 3. and H. 5. thought it any diminution to the Prerogative of the Crown of England , for their Parliaments to be joyn'd with them , in giving Terms to those Parts of France , which were brought under the Crown of England , in Wars carried on at a National Expence ? 16. Whether , notwithstanding his Concession , that every King of England , is ipso facto King of Ireland ; the contrary does not follow from his Notion of Prerogative , of Irelands being a compleat Kingdom reg●●●●ed within it self ; and the Supposition that Acts of Parliament in England cannot bind Ireland , till confirmed by Parliament there ? 17. Whether therefore according to his way of arguing , the Subjects of Ireland , who fought under King William , before he was recognized by a Parliament in Ireland , then served their Lawful and Rightful King. 18. Whether to dedicate to His present Majesty , a Book of such consequences as the direct Answer to these Questions would manifest , argues a due Opinion of His Majesty's Judgment and Penetration ? FINIS . ERRATA . PAg. 5. Lin. 8. for have ' r. know , ib. l. 14. r. grievous , ib. p. 7. l. 9. for must r. might , ib. l. 18. r. you represent , p. 11. l. 26. r. and nature , p. 12. l. 23. r. first expedition , p. 29. l. 25. for will r. would , p. 41. l. ult . for none r. no Charter , p. 62. l. 18. r. and that , p. 63. l. 23. r. Jurisdiction which , p. 64. l. 25. r. from , p. 70. l. 5. r. would , p. 87. dele voluntary , p. 95. l. 11. r. H. 3. p. 104 ▪ l. 13. for the r. that , p. 108. l. 6. r. here , p. 112. l. 4. r. when , p. 115 ▪ l. 12. dele chief , ● . 122. l. 20. r. carta , p. 133. l. ● . r. be then , p. 134. ● . 1. r. there then , ib. l. 9. for me r. him , p. 139. l. 9. for 1st . r. 17th . p. 144. l. 1. for that r. tho' , p. 165. l. 15. r. Precedent , p. 173. l. 21. r. Marchers , p. 174. l. ult . dele we , p. 184. l. 24. r. consider only , p. 195. l. 19. r. express , p. 200. l. 4. ● . Poyning's , p. 201. l. 21. and 22. r. 1. As &c. p. 202. l. ult . r. who , with his States , p. 204. l. 23. for did r. does , p. 212. l. 9. for there r. here . Notes, typically marginal, from the original text Notes for div A26170-e160 a Anciently there was but one House and sometimes one undivided Body sub dio . Thus one of K. Edgar 's Charters An. 970. Non clam in angulo , sed sub Divo , palam evidentissimè scientibus toti●s regni mei Primatibus . d Dr. Brady's Answer to Mr. Petty l. p. 1 , 2 . ●o rescue these sacred things from groundless and designing i●●e●pretations : I follow his own Method , and do affirm , 1. Tha● the Commo s of England represented by Knights , Citizens , and Burgesses in parliament were not introduced , not were one of the three Estates in Parliament before the 49th of H. 3. 2. That before that time the body of the Commons of England , or Freem●n as now understood or as we n●w frequently call them collectively taken , had not any share or votes iu making of Laws for the government of the Kingdom , nor had any com●unication in Affairs of State , unless they w●re represented by the Tex nts in Capite . a Vid Jani Anglor . faciem nov . ed. An. 1680. b Vid. Dr. Brady 's Append . to his Co●pleat History cited in f. c Dr. Brady's Introtuct . f. 3●6 Spe●àing of Seditious Pieces defign'd , as he says , to overturn the Government , and publish'd on purpose to usher in Anarchy and Confusion , ( leaving a Blank for Mr. P●tyt's Name , whom be sufficiently describes ) these and other such stuff , says , he did mightily contribute to the Sedition and Rebellious Practices of a Great Man who laid violent Hands upon himself to prevent the Hand ●nd Stroak of Justice , And like to this Piece are J●ni Anglor ▪ ●acies nova , Jus Anglorum ab antiquo , Reflections upon Antidptum Brit. &c. All written and timed to promote Sedition and in expectation of Rebellion and the destruction of the Establish'd Government . d Jus Anglorum ab antiq . Votes , Lunae , 27 Junii 1698. Vid. Mat. Par. Addit . f. 281. De foris facturâ regni per Johannem , & regni vacatione per ejusdem demissionem in manus Papae . Notes for div A26170-e1290 * Mr. Molineux his Book ▪ p. 3. I venture to expose my own weakness , rather than be wanting at this time to my Country , I might say indeed to mankind ; for 't is the Cause of the whole Race of Adam that I argue , &c. Pag. 3. Vid. Plin. Pan. Quàm nunc juvat , provincias omnes in fidem nostram deditionemque venisse . Postquam contigit Princeps terrarum , &c. Pag. 25. * 'T is only damage sustain'd that gives title to another man's goods . * Mr. Molineux his complaint against the Parliament of England . Vid. Dedication . Pag. 3. P. 64 , & 66. P. 68 , 99. P. 105. P. 107. Nay but one Throne , the two Kingdoms ▪ P. 108. P. 111. Pag. 114. a P. 128. b P. 129 , 133 , 139. c P. 147. d P. 163. e P. 154. f P. 157. g P. 161. h P. 166. i P. 168. Vid. e Cont. sup . p. 64 , & 66. k P. 170. l Ibid. m P. 171. n Ibid. o P. 172. Pag. 3. The true Foundation and Nature of the Right of England over Ireland . Vid. p. 3. P. 14. Pag. 6. of the first annexation of the Land of Ireland to the Crown of England . Lambard's Archainomia , f. 148. de Jure & Appendiciis Coronae Regni Britanniae . a Bibli●●h . Cot. sub effigie Julii . B. 11. b Claudius . D. 2. Na. c Guernsey , 〈◊〉 I take it . Circa 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 . Rot. Cart. 5. E. 2. m. 12. n. 25. & 3 E. 3. m. 10. n. 23. Pro Priore & Conventu Wigorn . per inspeximus . An. 964. regni sui 6. Rot ▪ Pat. 12. E. 2. m. 13. n. 42. Rot. Cart. 2 ▪ E. 3. m. 23. n. 78. An. 970. & Cart. Antiq. in Turr. Loud . B. n. 11. a Rot. Car● ▪ 5. E. 2. m. 12 ▪ n. 25. b Rot. Cart. 5. E. 3. m. 1● ▪ n. 17. per Prior & Convent . sanctae Frischeswide ▪ Oxon. An. 1084. re●●i● 25. a Rot. Cart. 5. E. 3. m. 32. n. 85. A. 979. b Rot. Cart. 36. E. 3. m. 7. n. 3. A. 964. c In Bib. Cot. An. 1001. d Monast . 1. vol. f. 94. a. A. 983. a Rot. Cart. 5. E. 3. m. 32. n. 85. pars unica . A. 987. b Hist . Elyens . in Bib. Cotton . c Vid. Rot. Cart. 2. R. 2. m. 13. n. 5. Bib. Cot. sub . effig . Claudil c. 9. Hist . Eccles . Abind . Cart. Antiq. B. n. 4. K. n. 22. d Cartae Antiquae in Turri Lond. D. n. 12. Coenob . de Salebi● . e Cart. An ▪ tiq . Q. n. 2 ▪ An. 1081. * Bib. Cot. sub Effigie Claudii 9 Regist . Abind . dehund . de Hormmere . † P. 129. If our Church be free and absolute within it self , our State must be so too . Of the Superiority and Authority of the Church of England over the Church of Ireland . * Parker 's A●tiq . Brit. Et quique Nobiles cum Clero . * Petitioni ●orum Armuit . † Fo. 23. Ann. 1151. Ibid. 𝄁 Ib. F. 23. Nihilominus Cant. Primatem in omnibus agnoscunt . * Antiq. Brit. ] sup . Inter decem script . Gerv. Dorob . Actus Pontif. Cant. F. 1633. Ann. 605. Nec non & Scothorū qui Hiberniam insulam Britanniae proximam incolunt , pastoralem impendere sollicitudinem curabat . Brompton , F. 970 , 971. de An. 1071. * Not that the whole History need have been read in the Council , but the chief Passages produced by them who had read it . P. 8. An. 1172. P. 6 , 7 , 8. Of H. 2d 's landing in Ireland . P. 144. The justification of 2d's Expedition . Lambard's Archaionomia , F. 138. De Regis Officio , &c. Vid. Leges St. Edw. Tit. Greve . Ryley's Placita Parl. 29 E. 1. Vid. In● . Anglia sacra , Giraldus Cambrensis de rebus a se gestis , Pars 2. c. 14. Angl. sac . sup . pars 2. F. 485. speaking of King John , Pater ipsius intrandi Hiberniam , sibique subjugandi , ab ecclesia Roman● licentiam impetravit . Pro dilatandis Ecclesiae ter●inis , &c. V. p. 129. Holy Church shall be free , &c. If our Church be free and absolute within it self , our State must be so likewise . P. 10 , & 11. P. 28. Of the Submission of the Irish to H. 2. V. p. 10. Cited by him . P. 28. Mat. Par. ib. Urbes & Castella quae Rex in sua receperat , sub fideli custodia deputavit . P. 29 ▪ Hoveden . f. 323. F. 324. Int. Decem script . Bromton de eod . An. Vid. Inf. In truth he was but Viceroy . V. p. 10. Jurantes ei & haeredibus suis P. 154. a Hoveden . t. 312. Sicut tenuit antequam dominus Rex intravit Hib. b A● . 1175. c Gir. Cambr . expug . Hib. c. 34. de An. 1177. Anno primo quo illustrissimus Anglor . R. & Hib. triumph●tor , ipsam insulam acquisivit . d Benedict . Abbas , p. 69. ●ited in Dr. Bradey's Append . f. 39. Rot. Claus . 7. Jo. m. 5. Nomine Baroniae . Davis Rep. f. 38. Of the Antiquity of the Right of the Crown of England to the Land of Ireland , recognized by Parliaments there . Stat. 11 Eliz. Ses . 3. c. 1. f. 273. Graston de an . ante Christum 375. De eod . an . Irish Stat. f. 493. P. 4. Of the comparison bètween W. 1. and H. 2. and of the stile and notion of Conquest . Davis 's Rep. ● . 41. Case de Tanistry . P. 12 , & 13. a Vid. Mr. Petyt's Pref. to the Rights of the Kingdom . Mic. 2. Jo. The same transcribed more at large in Hales's Collect. in Bib. Hospit●● Lincoln . b Glanvil . de legibus , lib. 7. c. 1. Vid. ib. aut habet haereditatem tantum , aut questum tantum . c P. 14. d Vid. Pref ▪ to Davis's Rep. The first after the Norman Conquest that was stiled Lord of Ireland . Girald . Camb. Hibern . expugnat . Vid. Reflections upon a treasonable Opinion against signing the voluntary Association . F. 14. Puff . de Jure Gentium . VII . 7. 3. Pictav . gesta W. Ducis Norm . & Regis Anglor . f. 181. Ord. Vital . f. 492. * Non expectabat vesanus Anglus quid publica electio statueret . Pictav . ut memini , vel Ordir . Vital . † Flor. Wig. Fidelitat . juraverunt , quibus & ipse foedus pepigit . S. Dunelm . F. 195. Hoveden . F. 258. Rad. de Diceto Col. 480. Bromton Col. 958. 𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁 Ordir . Vital . F. 503. Bib. Cotton . sub Effigie Claudii , A. 3. * Bib. Cot. sup . Volumus & concedimus . Vid. Selden . Dissert . ad Fletam de confirmatione , 4º Regni sui Ekal . vid. etiam Mat. Par. Addit . de Fretherico Ab. Sancti Albani , extorquente cautionem juratoriam . Vid. God's ways of disposing of Kingdoms . P. 20. The sense of Parliaments in Ireland , in relation to Conquest . Stat. Hib. 28 H. 8. c. 3. F. 64. F. 65. Stat. 11. Eliz. Ses . 3. c. 1. F. 37. 11 J. c. 1. * 12 , 13 , 14 , J. 1. c. 5. * Act for Subsidies , 11 C. 1. 10 C. 1. Ses . 1. c. 3. and Ses . 3. c. 3. Nota , But one Imperial Crown . 14 & 15 C. 2. Non hic habent Milites Parliamenti . P. 117. P. 117. P. 118. Of Mr. M's comparison between Scotland and Ireland ; and of the Annexation of Ireland to the Crown of Engl nd . P. 147. Vid. Moor's Rep. Vid. Ben. Ab. in Bib. Cot. de Homagio Regis Scot. H. 2. a Vid. Answ . to C. J. Herbert on the dispensing Power ; and particularly the Sherivalty of the County of N. for which some have supposed that the Statute in that case was dissensed with . A Comparison between Ireland and Wales . b Mr. M. M. 165. c 34 H. 8. c. 13. D●●●s 's Rep. f. 41. b. Should be in the plural number . Davis f. 67. le Case del County Palatine . F. 67. Comparison between Ireland and the County Palatine of Chester . Rot. Pat. 9. H. 3. m. 9. d. Rot. Pat. 44. H. 3. m. 1. d. Pat. 6. E. 1. m. 6. de 1 5ma in Com. Cestr . Pat. 20. E. 1. m. 6. de 1 5ma Regi , &c. P. 148. Some object , that Ireland is to be look'd upon only as a Colony from England . Year-book of E. 2. f. 613. * 19 H. 6. F. 12. b. 4. Inst . F. 212. † Vaughan's Rep ▪ * Of the Jurisdiction of the King's Bench of England●ver ●ver that of Ireland . P. 13. Vib. ib. the Lord Coke , seems to infer from the subordination , &c. P. 13. Of the ordinary Jurisdiction of the K's Bench of England over that of Ireland . * P. 164 , 165. Interesse judiciis Curiae Regis . * Rot. Claus . 37 H. 3. m. 4 ▪ d. Hibn. Et mandatum est Justiciariis Hib●rniae quod rec●rda cum omnibus adm●iculis coram ●o venire faciant . Rot. Claus . 37 H. 3. m. 15 ▪ Recorda penes Remem . in scaccar . Placita coram Rege 20 E. 1. Vid. inf . of Petitions in Parl. Temp. E. 1. P. 133. P. 132. P. 133. The ordinary Jurisdiction of the Lords , and the King's Bench , an incident to the Superiority of the Crown of England . * P. 3. P. 125 , 126. Ro● . Parl. 8 H. 6. Of the Annexation of Ireland to the Crown of England . P. 41 , 42. P. 44. P. 127. P. 149. Vid. Davis Rep. f. 61. citing 28 H. 8. c. 2. La corone d' engleterre en plusors auters Acts de Parl. est appel . Imperial Crown , & la corone de Ireland est appendant , a ceo 28 H. 8. c. 20. & unite & knit al. Imperial corone D' engleterre , 33 H. 1. c. 1. 33 H. 8. c. 1. a 2 Eliz. c. 1 , & ● . 2. 28 H. 8. c. 2. 28 H. 8. c. 5. P. 166. 11 Jac. 1. c. 1. 10 C. 1. Sess . 3. c. 3. Q. Whether of England or Ireland , neither being named . P. 55. P. 127. P. 157. P. 127. P. 128. Vid. the printed Statute-Book ending with R. 3. and Reflections upon a treasonable Opinion against signing the Association . In the beginning of the Statutes of H. 7. in French. P. 127. P. 128. Stat. 34 & 35 H. 8. c. 3. 1 Eliz. c. 1. P. 83. The Power of England not departed from , but duly exercised . P. 57 & 58. P. 62. P. 63. P. 40. * Vid. Bened. Ab. in Bib. Cott. & al. Author . Davis Rep. F. 64. b. P. 148. * Vid. leges W. 1. de ●ide ▪ &c. Regi domino ●uo . * Sandford's Genealogical Hist . referring to a Charter in the Cotton Library . Sigillum Johannis filii Regis , domini Hiberniae . P. 41. Vid. Sandford , sup . * Polidore Virg. f. 255. Habito concilio , &c. de concilii sententia honoribus atque fortunis privatus . Thorn. in t . decem . script . col . 1868. Fuit citatus , accusatus , & judicio coram paribus suis per eos legitimè tanquam proditor condemnatus . Mat. Par. Addit . f. 281. b Ib. F. 236. Oxoniam profectus , &c. Johannem fil . totius Hiberniae regulum facit . c P. 41 , 42. a Rot. ●●t . 9. J. p. 1. m. 2. n. 8. Ad voluntatem & consilium dilector . & fidelium nostror . Com. W. Maresc . & Walt. de Lacey & al. Bar ▪ nostrorum Hiberniae , qui nobiscum fuerunt in Angl. & per consilium fidelium nostrorum in Angl. Quod latrones Hibern ▪ expellantur de terra nostrâ Hibern ▪ &c. b Annales de Margan . Ann. 1210. Jo. 11. f. 14. Hostibus ex voto subactis . c Vid. ib. de Lacy Com. ultorum W. de Breusa Walt. de Lacy , &c. Fecit con●isca●i omnia bona proscriptorum Principium quae multa fuerunt in Angl. in Wal. & Hibernia . * Pat. 30. H. 3. m. 1. Quod omnes leges & con●uetudines quae in Regno Angl. tenentur , in Hibern . teneantur , & ●adem ter . eisdem legibus subjaceat , & per easdem regatur , sicut dominus R. J. cum ultimo esse● in Hibern . statuit & fieri mandavit . † P. 58. * P. 54. † Vid. Rot. Car● ▪ 16. Johannis . Rex Angliae , Dominus Hibern . Dux Norm . & Aquitaniae , Comes Audegav . Rot. claus . 18 H. 3. m. 27. 𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁 Regni nostri Angl. † Rot. Pat. 21 H. 3. m. 10. * Ad tractandum nobiscum ibidem super his & aliis statum nostrum , & terrae nostrae Hibern . tangentibus . † Rot. Claus . 37 H. 3. m. 15. Firmiter ad fidem & servitium nost . & praedecessor . nostrorum Regum Angl. ad conquestum una cum Anglicis faciend . super Hibernienses . a Vid. Sir John Davis de Tanistry . b 41 H. 3. m. 11. c Dudum . d Multis retroactis temporibus , which Mr. Pryn by mistake has omnibus . c Omnibus Anglicis terrae Hibern . Rot. Pat. 18 H. 3. sup . Rex vult ut de communi consilio Regis provisum est quod omnes leges , &c. g Annales Monast . Burton . f. 411. a Rot. Claus . 34 H. 3. m. 7. d. b Annales Burton , sup . In eod . Parl. apud Oxon. xxiv . electi , viz. xii . ex parte domini Regis , & totidem ex parte communitat●s . Rot. Claus . 44 H. 3. m. 18. do●so . c Rot. Claus . 44 H. 3. dors . m. 18. d Ibid. Object . P. 45. a P. 58. b P. 47. Pat. 1. H. 3. m. 13. intus . Ans●● . a Regno nostro Angl. concessis . b P. 45. c P. 46. d Vid. Inf. temp . E. 1. & deinceps . P. 45. Brady's Append . to his compleat History f. 131. And shall have the Common Advice of the Kingdom concerning the Assessment of their Aids . F. 52 , 53. Claus . H. 3. m. 8. a De Majori consilio . b Vid. Rot. Claus . 12. H. 3. 8. De legibus & consuetud . observandis in Hib. Cited p. 52 , 53. Grot. de Jure belli & pacis . a Quas distincte in Scriptum reductas . ( b ) Quz omnes tangunt ab omnibus tractari debent . ( c ) P. 50 , 51. 3. H. 3. Rot. Pat. 37. H. 3. pars 2. m. 10. P. 58. Of the Authority of the parliaments of England , exercised over Ireland in the time of E. 1. a Rot. Claus . 1. E. 1. m. 20. De conservatione pacis in Hibern . b Haereditario judicio . c Claus . 1. E. 1. m. 11. Quia defuncto jam celeb●is memoriae Dom. H. Patre nostro ad nos reg●i gubernacu●um successione haereditariâ ac P●ocerum regni volu●tate & ●idelitate nobis p●aestit● sit de volutum . a P. 96. b P. 95. a P. 58. a P. 63. b P. 64. d P : 99 Before the Year 1641. there was no Statute made in England Introductory of a New Law , &c. a P●yns Animad . f. 256. 13. E. 1. m. 5. ●e Statutis liberatis . Et Rot. Stat. Prynn omits Regis which is in the Record . ( b ) In Hiberniam deferenda & ibidem proclamanda & observands . a En tout ●on Royaume . b Ou de auter bon ville . c Per tout ●on Royaume D'Engleterre & D'Irland . a Prvnn's Animad . f. 254. 30 H. 3. m. 1. Quia pro communi utilitate terrae Hiberniae & unitate terrarum Regis Rex vult ut de communi consilio Regis provisum est . b Vid. 28 E. 3. & 43 E. 3. c. 1. P. 99 , 103 , 105 a Stat. of Gloster 6. E. 1. ( b ) Habet Rex consil . suum in Parl. suis . c Some Statutes made by the King , the Prelates , Earls , Barons , and his Council . a 3. Inst . & Rot. Stat. de temp . E. 1. E. 2. E. 3. Appellez les plus discres de son regne , ausibien des g●eindrescome des meindres . b per sonconseil , & per assentement des tout la Commonalty . c Vid. Regi●● . Brev. ed. An. 1531. f. 17. Quod siat coram nobis & consilio nostro in Parl. nostro un . Rot. Claus . 17. E. 1. pars m. 8. Ad prox . Parl. post festum Paschae , ut tunc inde Rex f●ci●t quod de consilio suo duxe●it ordinandum . a Rot. Parl. 20. E. 3. m. 11. ( b ) Rot. Parl. 21 , E. 3 m. 9. s●avisera ove les Grants . c Rot. Stat. temps E 1. E. 2. E. 3. Pur le amendment , de son Royaume & pour plenere exhibitionde droit , si come le profit de office regal demand . d Vid. the Stat. 3. Inst . a West . 2. 13. E. 1. Ann● 1285. Printed Stat. ( b ) Stat. ed. An. 1529 Quaedam statuta ● opulo ●uo valde ▪ necessaria ucilia edidit , per quae populus ●uus Anglicus & Hybernicus suo regimine gubernatus . c Ad supletionem dict . Stat. Et Statuta edidit . Vid. Regist . Writs f. 13. Quando uxor admittitur ad jus suum defendend . & f. 16. De communi consilio Regni no●tri . P. 81. a Priyn's Animad . on Lord Coke Pat. 8 E. 1. m. 13. Hib. Omnibus Anglicis terrae . Quod nobis & consilio n●to ro videbiturexpedire . a Davis Rep. f. 21. h. Issint 29 E. 1. quand per special ordinance del Roy , &c. Rot. Stat. de temp . E. 1. E. 2. E. 3. Johan Wogan , Justice D●rland , ou a son Lieutenant . Printed Stat. 21 E. 1. c. ● . Record 22 E. 1. Note a Stat. made in the 21 or 22 was not sent to Ireland till the 27th . a Ryley's Placit● Parl. f. 379. 381 , 382. a Pro Statu Co●onae Regiae nec non terrarum ipsius Regis Scotiae Walliae & Hiberniae . b Ex assensu Dom. Regis ac toto consilio Parliamenti . c Non permitterentur in Regno . Et mandatum est Principi Wallia & Com. Ce●t . & Cu●todi Scotiae & Justic . Hib. In ei●dem terris firmiter & inviolabiliter observari . Ordinatio pro Statu Hib. ●alsly supposed to have been 17 E. 1. P. 88. Stat. ed An. 1529. P. 88. P. 89. Vid. Rot. Claus . 18 ▪ E ▪ 1. m. 8. Thes ▪ & ●arsuis de siccio Dublin . Pro Othone de Grandison . a P. 148. b P. 155. P●t . 18. E. 1. m. 13. De muraglo Dublin . Ordin . pro Statu Hib. c. 2. P●t . 18 E. 1. M. 2. Nisi tempore gu●riae necessitas hoc deposcit . Has literas nost●as fieri fecimus patentes quamdiu nobis placue●it duratur ' a Claus . 17. E. 1. M. 4. Intus . Nota Oct. Martini , is but 2 Days after . b P. 89. c Claus . 17. E. 1. M. 8. Usque ad proximum Parl. post Pasc●a ut tune inde Rex faciat quod de concilio suo duxerit ordinandum . Teste Edm. Com. Corn. Cons . Regis apud . West . 5 M●r●ii● a Claus . 17. E. 1. M. 2. dorso Nobis ea in proxim . Parl. nostro referant b Quod veniant apud Westm . in Craft . instantis Festi Sancti Martini . That 't is to be believed a parliament was holden 17 E. 1. tho no Summons to it found . a Dugdale's Summons to the Nobility . That which be cites 5 E. 1. i● a Summons to the Army . b Vid. Stat. e● . An. 1529 ▪ p. 21. Of A Summons to parliament 18 E. 1. a Rot. Claus . 18. E 1. M. 10. dorso . That ●it d by Dr. Brady is to the Sheriff of Westmorland . Dr. Bradie 's Answ . p 230. Dr. Bradie's Introduction to his Compleat History . a Ad instantiam Magnatum . b Et sci●●d●m est quod istud statutum ten●t lo●um deterris venditis tenend . in seodo simplici tantum . Quia emp●ores terrar . &c. There us'd to be Manucaptors for this purpose . Why so few Writs of Summons in those Times now to be found . a Vid. Lamb's Archaionom Leges St. Edw ▪ b Rot. Claus . 17. E. 1. sup . Rot. Claus 3. E. 1. M. 9. dorso in Prl. Quod circ● octobas R●su●●ectionis Domini celebra●● in Angliâ consuev●● . Commons included under Magnates . a Rot. Pat. 1 E. 3. M. 10. b Rot. Claus. 2 E. 3. M. 20. Walsingham , F. 126. c Tota regni nobilitas citata per prius ad Parl semend . b Rot Claus . 4. H. 4. n. ●9 . Pur Monsieur Thomas Pomercy Chivalier . Tres honourables & Tressages Communes . ( e ) Rot. Parl. 8. H. 6. n. 51. Tressages & Tres honourables . From the Mayor , Aldermen and Commons of the City of London . Rot. Patl. 3. H. 5. pars 1. n. ● Vid. Sup. of Cities and Boroughs . Vide sup . a Rot. Pat. 17. E. 3. p. 1. m. 20. dorso . Liberè & honorificè . a Pat. 15. Jo. p●● . 1. M. 11 Reddidimus He● de Tracy Baroniam de Bardestaple . ●b . Dotum honorem de Bardestaple . a Vid. Doom●-day de Norwic. a Not● , What a small proportion this new Plantation of French bore to the 1320 Burgesses , and yet some English were mix'd even among the French. Besides the French seem to have had but 11 added to their number from the Confessors time to the 20th . of W. 1. a Doomsday-Book TRE reddebat , &c. ( b ) Rot. Cart. 2. Jo. m. 17. n. 51. Rot. Pat. 1● . E. 2. m. 5. Rot. Cl●us . 14. Jo. m. 8. d. Rot. Pat. 15. Jo. m. 3. n. 8. Bundela P●t . Parl. de temp . E. 1. a Coram to●o coasilio . a Vid. Davis Rep. le Case del County Pal. ●f . 64. Cart. H. 2. Hugoni de Lacy Com. pro serv . suo & terram in Midea cum omnibus p●●●in ' per serv . 50. militum sibi & haer . suis tenend . de me & haer . meis . Rot. de superioritate Maris 26. E. 1. Les Roys du dit Royaume du temps dount il n'a memore du contraire eussent este en paisible poss . de la Soveraign Seignorie , de la meer Dengleterre , & des●sles este●nts en y cel & q. l'Admiral ad jurisd . avec la con●uisance & justice & touts aut●es appe●tenant● , &c. Of Ireland's being bound by the Parliaments of England in the time of E. 2. Prynn 's Animad . on Lord Coke f. 262. 10. E. 2. Quod semel in Anno teneatur Parl. Stat. of York 12 E. 2. Cap. 6. Rot. Sat. de temp . E. 1. E. 2. E. 3. Statuta missa fuerunt in Hib. ut in brevi subseq . continetur , & liberata fuerunt Godf. filio Rog. una cum dict . brev . deferend . Pag. 130. Pag. 129. Rot. Stat. temp . E. 1 ▪ E. 2. E. 3. M. 30. Answer to Sir Richard Bolton's Marginal Note . P. 63. 64. Vid. Sup ▪ Stat. Merton c. 7. De Narratione in br●vi de recto ab antecessore a tempore Hen. Regis senioris . Vid. Sup. Mr. M. p. 52. and 53. Rot. Claus . 12. H. 3. De legibus & cons . observandis in Hib. Rot. Claus . 20. H. 3. m. 13. Of Ireland's being bound by Parliaments of England , in the Reign of E. 3. a In forma Patenti . Vid. Rastals Collect. ed. Anno 1572. a Rot. Stat. Mem. quod istud Stat. cum Stat. precedentibus temp . Regis E. ●3 . Post conquestum missa sunt in Hiber . in formâ Patenti cum brevi seq . b Et quantum ad vos & populum nostrum illar . ter . attinet firmiter tene●i & observari fac . c Stat. 11. E. 3. c. 2. P. 68. a Rot. Parl. 20. E. ● . Ut memini , parte transcripti circa idem tempus amissâ . b N. 33. c N. 34. Note , This was a disposing of Property . d N. 37. e Resp . N. 39. Stat. Stap. 27. E. 3. c. 1. & . 3. Note , The Wisdom of that Law. 27. E. 3. c. 7. Stat. 25. E. 3. Rot. Stat. M. 15. For the Honour of God and of Holy Church , and the Amendment of his Realm . a Rot. Stat. de temp . E. 1. E. 2. E. 3. M. 15. De Proclamatione Statuti . b Consimiles literae diriguntur Justic . Hib. mutatis mutandis sub eâdem datâ . P. 161. Rot. Pat. 17. R. 2. p. 1. m. 34. The suppos'd Magna Charta for Parliaments in Ireland . Rot. Stat. ordinatione pro Statu . Hibn. ( a ) per Justiciar & Conciliumnostrum Hiberniae . b Statut. & artic . per nos in Parliamentis & aliis magnis consiliis ad utilitatem populi nri editor . & factor . * Juxta tenorem cujusdam Statuti per nos & consilium nostrum Angliae edit . & missi ad Hiberniam observand . b Sub gravi foris facturâ Prelati , magnates communitates aut quivis alii ▪ c Sub sigillo Cancellar . protempore existentis ad Justic . Cancel . & The● . nostris Hibern . transmittantur . d Vocatis ad se Cancel . & Thes . nris Hiberniae cum quibusdam Prel . & Comitibus quos evocandos noverit . e Ex certa causa sub sigil . Justic . & sibi associator . a P. 161. b P. 150. P. 161. a V●d . R●t . 〈◊〉 t●mp . 〈◊〉 E. 2. 〈◊〉 m. 12. 〈◊〉 S●●t . ● . m. ● . 〈◊〉 36 ▪ E. 1. 〈…〉 a In 〈◊〉 Parl. 〈◊〉 Westm . b P●r 〈◊〉 Regem & 〈◊〉 silium . c Eodem medo 〈◊〉 est 〈◊〉 vicecom ▪ per Angl. 〈◊〉 Dunelm 〈◊〉 Pr. Wal●● Com. Ce●●● Rob. de 〈◊〉 Constab . 〈◊〉 Dover & 〈◊〉 stod . 5 〈◊〉 Justic . 〈◊〉 d P. 68. Of the fancy that the 〈◊〉 had representatives 〈◊〉 in Ireland , 〈◊〉 sent from the 〈◊〉 to be 〈◊〉 of Parliament here . * P. 95. † P. 97. 𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁𝄁 P. 98. Vid. Rot. Parl. de temp . E. 3. * Vid. Rot. Pat. 5. R. 2. part 2. m. 19. Their Parliament required to send Nuncios . P. 97. a Rot. claus . 32 H. 3. m. 6. d. Rex Baronibus Hiberniae . ( c ) Nuntil ex parte vestr● . b De nostrorum consilio . Ut eisdem articulis vobis diligenter expositis , &c. Et nos praed . negotium ad nostrum & v●strum honorem effectui mancipare curabimus sine ex heredatione vestrâ . P. 96. P. 85 , 98. Of the Statute of the Staple , 2 H. 6. and the Resolution of the Judges upon it . Pais du Roialm . P. 90. Salve la Prerogative le Roy. 3 H. 6. c. 4. P. 90. P. 91. 1 H. 7. Note . Ireland not named , yet the Courts in Ireland certainly included . 1 H. 7. f. 3. Come bill . fait en temps le Roy que ore est . P. 92 , 93. Vid. Brook. tit . Parl. sec . 90. P. 118. Is Ireland's being named in an English Act of Parliament , the least step towards the obtaining the consent of the people of Ireland ? P. 157. P. 155. a P. 105. b From 33 H. 8. An. 1542. at soonest . * P. 105. P. 65 , 66. P. 68. Object . P. 79. P. 63 , 64. Vid. sup . Davis f. 21. b. An. 1172. His politicks and seeming popular notions wrong , and ●isapplyed . P. 4. P. 150 , 151. P. 152. Hooker l. 1. sec . 10. He adds , P. 24. P. 20. P. 21. Vid ▪ P. 143. The People of England ought to be fully repay'd . Prerog . P. 166. P. 166 , 167. 3. C. 4. P. M. Vid. etiam Mr. M. p. 160. of the Sta● . 10. H. 7. P. 160. P. 170. P. 171. Pag. 172. Of the Consequence in relation to Taxes . Pag. 88 , 89. Pag. 105. Of the uncertainty what Authority to obey . Pag. 58. Pag. 16● . Of the supposed Inconvenience to England ▪ Vid. Glanvil de Seditione Regis vel Regni inter crimina lesae Majestatis . Vid. Rot. Parl. temp . E. 3. & H. 5.