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LONDON , Printed for Iohn Astwood , at his Printing-House behind St. Christopher's Church , in Thread-needle-street , the backside of the Royal Exchange . 1699. THE REPLY TO Some Reflections , &c. SIR , IF I may be intrusted to make an Abstract of my own Essay , it is To Assert and Prove , 1. That Free-hold Lands in England may be incumbered in divers manners , and in divers places , which renders the Titles thereunto incertain , and therefore is a Deficiency in the Law. 2. That the Conveyances by Lease and Release , lately invented upon the Statute of Uses , being Clandestine Conveyances , and now become the common Conveyances of the Kingdom , doth occasion a Necessity of a Registry to prevent them . And Page 11. I have Challenged the Inns of Court to shew , That either the Common Law , or Parliaments of England , ever directed any Incumbrances to affect Lands but by solemn Livery and Seisin , or Matter of Record , and that therefore these Clandestine Conveyances are crept in , contrary to the true Intent and Meaning of Parliaments , and all the avowed Laws and Customs of the Kingdom . And this ( I know ) it was , that gave you Confidence to single your self out , as the Goliah of the Law , to answer me : In which ( Bully like ) you Lugg out with a Threat in your Mouth . Promising , 1. To shew that my Arguments are advanced on Suppositions and Opinions in the Law , which are in themselves either false or mistaken , or at least very broken and imperfect . 2. However they may be just in themselves , they conclude nothing to the purpose , viz. The Necessity of a Registry . And to Charge me with Falshood in the Matter of my Challenge , you say , Page 22. That Lands were otherwise to be incumbered than by Livery and Seisin , or matter on Record : And for this you instance , 1. By a Lease for Years . 2. A Devise by Will. 3. A Grant of a Rent Charge . 4. A Release to a Disseizor . 5. A Surrender . For Reply to which , in affirmance of my Essay , I say , 1. That to a Lease for Years at Common Law , the Transferr of the Possession by Entry was Necessary to perfect the Conveyance , so as to make the Lessee capable of taking a Release , which is directly contrary to a Bargain and Sale for Years by the Statute , of which I have Complained , as being perfectly executed to this intent without any Entry . 2. That to a Grant of a Rent there must be an Attornment , which is the Seisin of the Rent , and all the Possession that a Rent is capable of , and by this the Tenant hath the same Notice to know to whom to pay his Rent , as he hath by a Feofment of the Land. Tho' I Confess , that in both these Cases of a Lease for Years , and Grant of a Rent , the Deeds themselves , without any Entry , are the initiating of a Title , so as to give the Grantees a Right to have their Title perfected ; for the Lessee by Virtue of his Lease may enter , and the Grantee of the Rent may Compel an Attornment ; and so may a Man by Articles and a Suit in Chancery compel the making of a Deed : But , 'till these things be done , the Title is not perfect . But indeed in your Discourse of the Nature of a Bargain and Sale , before the Statute , you seem to value a Title to a Suit in Chancery , as much as a Title to an Estate . 3. As to a Release to a Disseizor . There is an actual Transfer of the Possession by Entry , before the Release can operate , and the Entry is as an Essential Part of the Conveyance as the Release ; for they both make but one Conveyance . And because I Observe , that whereas I have in my Essay used these Words , Livery and Seisin , and some other Words , as Records , Titles , Notices , &c. in their large sense , according to common intent , you wou'd take Advantage of me , by Commenting upon them , according to their strict Signification in Terms of Law. I 'le endeavour to explain this Controversie about Livery and Seisin . When a Deed is made first , and the Possession is taken afterwards , this the Lawyers call a Feofment . And when the Possession is taken first , and the Deed made afterwards , this they call a Release . Now because I won't contradict the Lawyers in their Terms of Art , I neither did nor do say , that both these are Feofments , or that both of them are Releases . But I did and do say , that according to common Sense , they are both the same sort of Conveyances , and are both executed by Livery and Seisin , because there is an actual and visible Transfer of the Possession , in the one as well as the other ; without which neither of them can be executed . But as in the first , the Deed being already made , there needs nothing more but Possession ; so in the latter , the Possession being already had , there needs nothing but the Deed : For the Law hates to do any thing twice by Circuity of Action . When a Man is in Custody of the Sheriff by any one Writ executed upon him , he is in his Custody upon all other Writs then delivered , or otherwise the Sheriff must let him go as fast as he takes him , in order to take him again . And as Littleton , Sect. 460. saith , It is in vain to make an Estate by Livery and Seisin to another , where he hath the possession of the same Land by the Lease of the same Man before . And therefore did not you and your Admirers value your selves , more upon Knowledge of Terms of Art , than the Reason of doing Business , you would not vaunt so much of your Victory over me in this Point . 4. As to a Surrender , I say , that a Surrender is not an Incumbrance on Land , but a Discharge of an Incumbrance ; and what I have said in my Essay , is of the Manner of creating Incumbrances , and not of discharging them . For a Judgment , which is an Incumbrance upon Record , may be discharged by a Release which is not recorded , and so several other Rights may be released without Livery o● Record ; and therefore , you might as well have instanced in any of them as in a Surrender . 5. As to a Devise by Will , I say , That tho' the Makers of the Law , 32 H. 8. by which Lands are deviseable , did not thereby particularly direct such Devises to be registred , yet they knew that long before the making that Statute , Wills were usually registred , whereby all the Devises therein might appear . And as to what you say , That Lands being by the Custom of several Boroughs , deviseable before the making this Statute , is a sufficient Answer to what I have said of the Custom of the Kingdom to the contrary , is ( by your leave ) taking a Point of Law without asking : For the Custom of the Kingdom is the Common Law of England , but the Custom of an Hundred particular Boroughs is not , and therefore nothing that you say of them , can be an Answer to what I say of that . I think these are all the Opinions in Law , in which you would seem to charge me with Falshood . Now to follow you in your next Task , which is to shew my Notions mistaken , broken and imperfect . Page 3. You say , I have not enumerated all the ways , by which Lands may be incumbered . Reply . Truly Sir , nor you neither , and ( tho' I own you much more Law and Memory than I have ) I 'le give you 'till the Publication of your next Reflections , to make an Inventory of these Incumbrances ; for there 's as many several ways of incumbring Lands , as there are several species of Profits belonging to them , as Herbage , Pannage and Estovers above Ground , and Mines under , all which may be particularly granted , and every such Grant is an Incumbrance : However , I thank you , for strengthning my Argument : For if the multiplied ways of Incumbrances , are the cause of the incertainty of Titles , the more ways the more incertain . Page 3. You say , my word Incumbrance doth not comprehend Conveyances of Land. Reply . For this I 'le put you a Case , ( which when you have answered , I 'le answer the two you have put me ) A. conveys his Land to B. and then makes a Deed of it to C. and Covenants with C. that he hath not incumber'd it ; Query , Whether the Conveyance to B. be a Breach of the Covenant with C ? But I find this Word Incumbrance is unlucky to Registries . Major Gen. Ludlow in his Memoirs takes Notice , That upon a Bill for a Registry then brought into the House of Commons , the Lawyers kept them three Months upon the Word Incumbrances . I remember indeed ( amongst the School-Boys ) we had a nice Distinction in Magick , between ( two Compounds of Cumbo ) Incubus and Succubus ; both which we had learnt to be the Possession of the Devil : But Incubus ( it seems ) is the Devil within a Man ; and Succubus the Devil lying upon him ; which the Country People call a Night-Mare . Page 7. You expose my Ignorance of the Nature and Operation of a Bargain and Sale before the Statute . Reply , To this I can only say , that I never saw any Author so much Contradict himself in four Pages , as you have done to this Point in your 7 th , 8 th , 9 th , & 10 th . or else I can't understand them . I own ( indeed ) that ( for Contradiction-sake I suppose ) you have slatly denyed my Assertion in three words : But coming to argue upon it , you have Confessed all I have said . Like Felons who plead Not Guilty ( for Form-sake ) tho' , they know the Evidence will be against them . Page 11. You Reprove me for saying , that the Device of Conveyancing by Lease and Release , is an Abuse of the Statute of Uses : Whereas , say you , the Statute hath ( notwithstanding ) its full Operation . Reply . So say I , and more too ; for the Parliament have given an Inch , and the Lawyers have taken an Ell● ; and I always understood too much use of any thing to be an abuse of it . Page 13. You Correct me again , for saying that the Statute for Inrollments is Eluded ; whereas ( say you ) page 15. 't is only Avoided . Reply . For this saying , Sir , and this only , I heartily begg your Pardon , and Knock under Table . Page 15. You fetch me about again , for saying that this Statute is avoided by the Lease and Release , whereas ( say you ) the first Avoidance was by the Covenant to stand seized , and that the Lease and Release was since invented , instead of the Covenant to stand seized . Reply . But Sir , they say in our Country , That the Receiver is as bad as the Thief , and the Truth is , ( as you say ) that because the Lawyers found , that this Covenant to stand seized would not do all manner of Business , they invented the Lease and Release , which hath done it effectually . But then you say , It had been more proper for me , to have instanced in this Covenant to stand seized , which was the first Evasion of the Statute , and is now out of use ; than in the Lease and Release , which was invented afterwards , and is now in use . Reply . By this , Sir , I perceive , if you were to Lampoon the Fashions , you would fall foul upon Ruffs and high Collars , short Boots and long Spurs , and let the Fopperies of the present Age go free . Page 28. You find fault with my definition of Title , as different from my Lord Coke ' s. Reply . Now only to show Captious you are , ( for this signifies nothing to our purpose ) my Definition is , That to make a Title , is to take the Property of a thing from one Man , and put it into another ; and Lord Coke's is , Titulus est justa causa possidendi quod nostrum est , viz. The means whereby a Man comes to Land. And pray Sir , can any Man have a better means to come to Land , than by a Conveyance from him that had it before ? page 28. In the same page you contradict me , for saying that some Notice is necessary to all Title , whereas say you , by a Gift of Goods they are vested without Notice to the Donee , and so is the Duty upon a Bond without Notice to the Obligee . Reply . Very good . But suppose the Donor or Obligor deny the Execution of the Deed , must there not be some Witness to prove it ? and this is what I have said , that there ought to be Notice to other Persons besides the Parties , to evidence the Deed , least the Seller deny it . And now Sir , I thank you for giving me my Quietus from any more of your Animadversions upon my false or mistaken Notions in the Law. But , page 30. You come to the second part of your Task , that my Arguments don't prove my Conclusion , viz. the Necessity of a Registry . And this you would prove by Logick . For , say you if Conveyances by Lease or Release be the only Grievances in the incertainty of Titles , and that these were made by Elusion of the Statute for Inrollments ; therefore if a Provision were made for inrolling all Bargains and Sales , as well for Years as Free-holds , it would remedy the Mischief , without registring all . Reply . By this you would confine my Argument to make good your own : For tho' I lay the blame more particularly upon Leases and Releases , ( as being most us'd ) I don 't by that quit my other Arguments , or say there is no other Mischief : Nor will any Inrollment remedy the Mischiefs , without giving a preference to Deeds so inrolled , to Deeds not inrolled , which is all the Registry offered : And whether it be called Registry or Inrollment , doth not alter the Case . But pray Sir , by the way , give me leave to intrude a little upon your Trade of Reflections , for I dare say , no one that has read them , but thinks either that you are concerned in some Office , or Fees for Inrollments , or write for some one else that is . And for what you hint against new Officers and new Fees , I only say , that I can make no Comparison between old and new Officers , unless I know their Names . But for Fees , I 'le undertake , that Deeds may be registred for half the Money they are now inrolled ; not that I am underbidding you , but I observe you are concerned for the Subject . Pag. 48. You tell us , you have gone through the two Branches of your Design ; with what success the World may judge . Reply . Yes ! very great ! Jamque opus exegi . Welcome to the Butts Gentlemen . And now you are at leisure to Divert your self with me . And to begin , page 28. You are pleased to mention two considerable parts of my Essay to be Wit and Malice . Reply . To this I can't return you a less Complement than , That your Reflections seem to be written with as much Wit , and as little Malice as you could . page 48. You say the Clergy think their best Answer to me , is a silent Scorn and Contempt . Reply . Why then ( I say that for 'em ) they have more Command of their Passion than you have . page 42. You say , I might have quoted Precedents more to my purpose , than out of the Old and New Testament . Reply . By this I Conjecture , these are the two last places you ever look for any thing in . page 49. You say , That I deserve to be admired for no other Reason , but for daring to write what a wiser Man would tremble to hear . Reply . Why this may be ! and yet Paul's Sermon was never the worse , nor Felix ever the wiser for trembling at it : They who never think of these things by themselves , are subject to such Quaums when they hear them from others . Hi sunt qui trepidant & ad omnia fulgura pallent . page 50. You would be very severe on those words in my Preface , I hope I have such a Warrant to search for Truth , that will justifie me in breaking through all Crafts ond Sciences to find it ; as Hunger justified David and his Men , for entring the Priest's House , and eating the Shew-Bread : Because ( say you ) David was a King , and Kings have Prerogatives , and therefore might be justifyed in that which ( perhaps ) might intitle a Man of Mr. Asgill 's Station to another Reward , ( Anglicé , to be Hang'd . ) Reply . Why then it seems 't is but perhaps , and so you are not positive , but have made a Prerogative Case of it , Whether a King 's breaking a Priests House be Burglary ? As to that , Sir , tho' I don't Care to shew my self a Volunteer in Cases of Prerogative , yet I dare give my Opinion in this Case , That if David had had no Men with him , nor any that would have come when he called 'em , the Priests would have made this action Burglary : But his addition of Men ( which I have inserted in my Preface , and you have left out of your Paraphrase ) is very Material in this Point , ( as I humbly conceive ) and quite alters the Case : Tho' after all , David , was no King at the time of this Fact committed . page 44. You say I have made no provision for the Ignorance and Dishonesty of those who Transact Matters in Title . Reply . The whole Design of the Registry is to prevent Dishonesty : But for Cure of Ignorance , I hope you don't expect it from me , whom you have so often Charged with it ; and that you have Stiled me Gentleman in one Line , and called me Impudent in the next , puts me in Mind of the Civility of the Coif given by one Serjeant at Law to another , at Salisbury ▪ Assizes , Brother ! you are a Rascal . page 49. You say , I should not have Disclosed the Mysteries of my Trade . Reply . And yet in page 4. You hint ▪ that all I have said of the Priests and Lawyers , is but a Transcript from Lord Coke . page 52. You say , That the Proposals of Registries , having been still rejected by the Wisdom of our Fore-fathers , is some Argument against it . Reply . There is no more a Species of a Registry , than ( Selden saith ) there is of Kings , who in some Countries are Hereditary , some Elective , some Annual , and some for Life , and all these invested with different Powers . I have seen some Proposals for Registries calculated for Rebellion . To burn all the Records , Fore-close Men of their Rights for Non claim upon blowing a Horn , levelling all Titles , and beginning the World anew . And therefore the Rejection of such a Registry as this , is no Argument against another otherwise calculated . And for those Gentlemen , who are so complacent as to declare for a Registry in General , and yet find fault with all that are proposed , 'till they shall please to define the Nature of what they would have , I presume they must be thought to be against all . But as to rejection of Laws by precedent Parliaments , we have several Examples of receiving them afterwards , as the taking away the Court of Wards , the Grant of the sole Trade to the Indies , the Tax upon Paper , &c. which last I especially mention , because your old Friend , Fabian Phillips , writing against a Registry about fifty years since , puts the Proposal for that and Stampt-Paper together , as Badges of Spanish Slavery , and you have resembled it to Thraldom and base Tenure , and against the Freedom of Freeholders , ( Not to be at liberty to cheat Men of their Money ! ) Then , In page 43. You give another Political Hint against a Registry , by which I know you mean that old Bugg-Bear . That a Registry under a Monarchy is dangerous , by discovering Estates and Settlements to the Crown , whereby to make them liable to Attainders . Reply . Why pray , as the Case now stands ; Suppose a Man is attainted of Treason , shall not the King have an Office found for his Land , upon Evidence only that he received the Profits , ( and I hope a Registry don't furnish out that Evidence ) and this puts the Heirs or Purchasers to plead and show their Deeds , and sure those Deeds would not be less , but rather more valid ( in this Case ) for being registred . And yet whoever hath a Mind to keep any Settlement secret , need not register it , for nothing can defeat it but another Deed register'd , which can't be done , but by the Grantor himself . And as to discovering the Monies of Mortgagees , whereby to tax 'em , I should not be sorry to see that effected any way in ease of Lands , tho' they may effectually register their Mortgages , without discovering the Summs secured . And I believe , there are not many Examples of forfeiting Monies at Interest by Attainders , for Usurers are generally Old Men or Young Women , who seldom are caught in Plots against the State , or else such others who being easie in their Fortunes , won't venture ( upon any Revolution ) to meet a new King so far as Brentford , 'till they have several Affidavits of the former being safely landed on the other side the Water . But , page 48. You have desired the Reader to take Notice , That what you have said is only in Answer to Mr. Asgill . Reply . Why then ! if the Reader finds more Jest than Earnest in my Reply , I desire him to take Notice , That it is to make it more suitable to your Reflections . And by this and your other Grave Sentences , and General Cautions , I suppose you would be understood , that you could have wrote better on this Subject if you had a Mind to it . And therefore , to give you a further Opportunity of shewing that Faculty , I shall add something more to my former Assertions , as Matter for your further Reflections . I. Assertion . That the want of a General Registry , hath been the Occasion of multiplying Laws to prevent Frauds in the Titles of Lands . Proved . THat this was the Occasion of making this Statute of Vses , 27 H. 8. the several Statutes against Fraudulent Conveyances , several Clauses in the Act 29. Car. 2. to prevent Frauds and Perjuries , and all the late Acts against Clandestine Mortgages , and to secure Purchasers , appears by the Preambles of the several Acts , which recite abuses by Secret Deeds , Uses , &c. which might have been prevented by a Registry ; for all Frauds in Titles came by Concealments , and when they are Registred , they can't be Concealed . II. Assertion . That besides other Inconveniencies which may and do arise in the Construction and Use of New Laws when they are known , the very Multiplication of them is a Burden to the People by rendring them difficult , if not impossible , to be known by them . Proved . I may venture to hint at other Inconveniencies in New Laws , when the Author of these Reflections , Page 53. saith , We are not without Experience of some Laws in force , whose Design ( 't is true ) was the Prevention of Fraud , and yet have furnished out more Business for Westminster Hall than the Mistakes they have prevented would perhaps have occasioned . Witness the Statute of Vses and Wills. Out of which these Clandestine Conveyances have been formed . And how many Debates have arisen in the Courts of Law , about Deeds fraudulent or not fraudulent , and in the Courts of Equity about Notices of Incumbrances , Rights of Redemption , &c. before they come to be settled and known as Judgments or Rules of Courts by the Lawyers themselves ? But for the meer Layity , they can never come to know 'em , by reason of the multitude of the particulars , and the distance of time between one Act and another , and the comparing them together , in order to understand them , and so they run into the Breach of them without knowing it ; and therefore if that Question in Twyne's Case Quaeritur , ut crescunt tot magna volumina Legum ? In promptu Causa est , Crescit in orbe dolus . had been inverted , the Answer might have been inverted too Quaeris ? ut orbis habet tot multae exempla dolorum , In promptu , Causa est , jura volumen habent . The difficulty of the Knowledge of the Law , is not so much from the abstruseness of the Matter , whereby to puzzle the Judgment , but from the number of the Particulars , which burdens the Memory ; for all Cases of Common Use are known as well to the Clients , as to the Lawyers . There is not a greater Article in the Laws of England , than The Descent of Lands to the Eldest Son as Heir , and yet this being a common Case , every Man is his own Lawyer in it . And were a Registry settled , the Use of it would become so common , that the Knowledge of the Law , and Practice of it , would become universal . Whereas the Law of Titles now lying dispersed in several Volumes , which must be compared with one another , 't is a Discouragement to the Students of the Law themselves , to enquire after them . The Multiplication ( and consequently the Ignorance ) of Laws , is a secret Curse fallen upon Man , which insensibly consumes his Estate , without his taking any Account of it . The first Law delivered to Man was terminated in one single Point , and that but a Negative ; Only of that Tree thou shalt not eat , which being so short and plain , could neither burden his Memory , nor puzzle his Judgment . But Man refusing to hold his Life by so easie a Tenure , he had ( for his Punishment ) delivered him a Law of a Thousand Commandments , which neither we nor our Fathers were able to bear ; not from the difficulty of any one Precept ; ( for they were all trivial Performances ) but from the multitude of the Particulars , and this very thing of it self ( without any more ) cost the People one 5 th . of their Estates , ( for so is the Value of Tithes computed ) to maintain an Order of Preisthood , who should apply themselves to that Science only , and thereof upon all Occasions inform the People , ( who were otherwise employed . ) And as this Law of Ceremonies and diverse Commandments was delivered for a Curse , so the taking away the former , and the Abridgment of the latter , was the beginning of the Redemption of the World ; for the Ceremonies of the Levitical Law being taken away by the Death of Christ , and the Commandments of the Moral Law being by him abridged into one Precept , Do unto all men , as you would they should do unto you ; for this is the Law and the Prophets : Every Man's Conscience became his own Lawyer . And thereby the Order of Priesthood became ipso facto dissolved , as being useless to the World , 'till by degrees they rallyed again , and getting into Synods and general Councils , with Canons , Creeds , Articles , &c. they at length split the Gospel into as many Items as the Law was before , and thereby regained a pretence to the Tithes , which however they could not get settled 'till the 12 th . Century after Christ ; when the Decree of the Council at Lateran , An. 1179. or ( as my Lord Coke saith ) a decretal Epistle of Pope Innocent the Third , An. 1200. procured Tithes to be first appropriated to the Parish Priests . And if the Fees certain now payable by the People , for the Knowledge of the Laws Ecclesiastick , together with the accidental Fees paid for the Knowledge of the Municipal Laws of the Kingdom , ( as they come to have Occasion for them ) were annually sumed up together , their Total would strike deep in the Revenues of the Kingdom . Not that I propose to lower the Fees of the Church or the Law , as far as there is Occasion for them : But could the Occasions of them be reduced , I presume , the Honourable Professors of either Science would not expect to be paid for nothing . III. Assertion . That as the Delay of a General Registry hath hitherto occasioned the Multiplying of Laws to prevent Frauds in Titles , so the longer it is delayed , the more Laws must be multiplyed for that purpose . Proved . They say a Registry signifies nothing 'till forty or fifty Years after 't is made , and so they said fifty Years ago : But if instead of that , it had been then settled , we had now received the Benefit of it : And should that Objection prevail in other Cases , we must neither plant Oaks nor Orchards , but leave off Generation , because our issue arrive not to Manhood 'till One and Twenty . It is expected that Frauds in Titles will increase , and consequently Laws must be multiplyed to prevent 'em ; and when all 's done , it must come to a Registry at last , after some more Cheats have inforced it ; and therefore in the mean time we are at double Charge , in mending an Old House , which must be New Built at last . IV. Assertion . That the Apprehension of Frauds in Titles draws a Suspition upon good Titles as well as bad , and consequently doth depreciate the Value of Lands in general . Proved . One of the first Objections against a Registry is , That Frauds in Titles are not so considerable as they are made to be . Suppose that true , yet from the present impossibility of making Titles certain , they are all suspected to be false . It may be said , that Robberies and Burglaries are not so common , as that Men should always ride armed , or keep their Doors shut , and yet they do think themselves obliged to be on their defence , because they know not when the Thieves will come . Suppose there were the like Hazard in the Titles of Stock in the Bank , &c. as in the Titles of Lands , viz. That this Stock were transferrable at large out of a Registry , and that every such particular Transferr , together with general Incumbrances of Judgments , Statutes , &c. were to affect it , as they do Lands , and that the Conveyances of it were to be made by Lawyers , with recitals , And whereas's , &c. shewing all the mean Assignments through which they came , and a Set of Covenants afterwards for being lawfully seized , &c. whether this very alteration of the Title , without any thing else , would not of it self depreciate the Value of Stock 20 l. per Cent. and yet perhaps there might not be one false Title in a hundred Transferrs . Why then if it be supposed , that the Changing the Title of Lands to the Title of Stock , would depriciate it so much , I can't think but the changing the Title of Stock to the Title of Lands , would much advance the Value of them , and this Title to Stock is nothing but a Registry , which doth take away the use of First , All Recitals of main Assignments , because in the very Accounts of the Registry it appears , by whom all Transferrs were made . Secondly , All Covenants for a good Title ; because the Registry it self shows it is a good Title ; and therefore in all Conveyances of Coppy holds , and Fen-Lands in their Registry , there 's no Recital of things past , nor Covenants against them , because it always appears upon the Roll , and this makes the Conveyances of those Lands so short , being only the Words of Grant , Parcels and Habendum , and consequently the Titles are easier perused , and less hazardous : For the very Length of Deeds doth of it self hazard the Titles , by causing Mistakes in perusing them . Indeed I can't pretend , that a Marriage Settlement , whereby Lands are to be entailed on the Issue Male , with provision for raising Monies on several Contingencies , should be as short as a bare Transfer of Stock without any such Settlement of it , nor can such a Settlement made of Stock , be as short as a bare Transferr of Lands . But why all the Words of Grant and Habendum , may not be as short in a Transferr of Land as of Stock , I can't apprehend , and then there can be no difference in the Length of them , but in the Nameing of the Parcels . And therefore to say , that a Registry of Lands may not be made as perfect , and the Title thereof as readily transferrable as Stock , is to say , that the same thing can't be done within an Inns of Court , as is at Grocers-Hall , or the East-India House . To me the Transferr of Titles seems to resemble the Carriage of Commodities , which is to be considered in the Price , as well as any thing else . And if this be doubted , and the Registry be rejected , I could only wish , that an Experiment were made , to change the Titles of Stock , Tallies , Bills , &c. ( or at least of one Branch of them ) into the Titles of Lands , to see whether this Clogg on their Transferr would not make them as dead Commodities as Land is now . V. Assertion . That the Establishing a Registry in the Metropolis , will be as convenient , and less chargeable , than to settle it in each County . Proved . That all Men should have Justice brought home to their Doors , and their Business done near Home , sounds popular . But tho' the Soil of the Lands lyes in the proper Counties , yet the Transferrs of the Title follow the Lawyers , and the Lawyers follow the Terms , which are in the Metropolis , and therefore the Transferrs of Titles ●●e generally made there . However this Registry don't alter the Execution of Deeds , but leaves that to be done by the Parties , any where , as it was before . So that the additional trouble by the Registry , is only the Transmitting the Deeds from the Place where they are executed , to the Place of Registry ; and were there a Registry in every County , they must be transmitted to the Place where that Registry is kept , and the Party need carry them no further , in order to register them in London : Because the Registers in London will find it their Interest to settle Deputies in every County , who shall transmit and receive back all Deeds , without trouble to the Parties . So that the Registry in London will be as convenient as the Registry in each County . And as it will be as convenient , so it will be less chargeable . For should Registries be settled in each County , there must be a General Registry in London , to which the Entries of all the County Registries must be transmitted , or else they would be of no use for Searches : And therefore , all great Incumbrances which affect Lands , are recorded in the Courts at Westminster . And 't is Observable , that the Office of Registry for Transferring Fen-Lands , is kept in London . But as this Registry is calculated , it may be first settled in any one place , and from thence be extended , or else suppressed , according to the Experience and Success of it . FINIS .