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A34020) Transcribed from: (Early English Books Online ; image set 66190) Images scanned from microfilm: (Early English books, 1641-1700 ; 958:25) Gospel order revived being an answer to a book lately set forth by ... Increase Mather ... entituled, The order of the gospel, &c ... / by sundry ministers of the gospel in New England. Colman, Benjamin, 1673-1747. Pemberton, Ebenezer, 1672-1717. Woodbridge, Timothy, 1656-1732. Bradstreet, Simon, 1671-1741. [9], 40 p. Printed [by William Bradford], [New York] : 1700. Collaboration on authorship has been ascribed at various times to Timothy Woolbridge, Benjamin Colman, Simon Bradstreet and Ebenezer Pemberton. Errata: p. [1] Reproduction of original in Huntington Library. Created by converting TCP files to TEI P5 using tcp2tei.xsl, TEI @ Oxford. Re-processed by University of Nebraska-Lincoln and Northwestern, with changes to facilitate morpho-syntactic tagging. 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THe Reader is desired to take Notice , that the Press in Boston is so much under the aw of the Reverend Author , whom we answer , and his Friends , that we could not obtain of the Printer there to print the following Sheets , which is the only true Reason why we have sent the Copy so far for its impression . GOSPEL ORDER Revived , Being an Answer to a Book lately set forth by the Reverend Mr Increase Mather , President of Harvard Colledge , &c. ENTITULED , The Order of the Gospel , &c. Dedicated to the Churches of Christ in New-England . By sundry Ministers of the Gospel in New-England . Prov. 18. 17. He that is first in his own Cause seemeth just , but his Neighbour cometh and searcheth him . Isa . 8. 20. To the Law and to the Testimony , if they speak not according to this Word , it is because there is no Light in them . Printed in the Year 1700. ERRATA . ADvert . l. ult . r. it is Printed . Ep. Ded. side 3 l. 29. r. ground . S. 4 l. 7 r. wills . l. 10. r. impose one . l. 19. r. Anti-Synodalia . S. 5 l. 3. r. voluminous . S. 6 l. 6 , r. banner . S. 7 l. 5. r. sell . l. 22 , r. inartificial . S. 8 l. 13. r. publickly Preached . Gosp . Ord. p. 9 l. 3 , r , that when . p. 9 l. 16. r. invention . p. 10 l. 9. r. notions . p. 15 l. 33. r. stumble . p. 17 l. 14. r , altogether . l. 32 that at p. 21 l. 11 , r. of their ways . p. 22 l. 14. r. Synodical . l. 33. r. we leave the Author to be chastized p. 23 l. 10. r. without this . p. 28 l. 27. r. Apostolical . l. 28. r. one only excepted . p. 29 l. 25. r. their persons . p. 32 l. ult . r. we 'l for once give our . p. 34 l. 14 , r. his book . l. 16. r. were greater . p. 37 l. antep . r. ferre . p. 40 l. 10. r. ●● Exemplary . The Epistle Dedicatory , To the Churches of Christ in N. England . IT can incur no just Censure that we address our selves to the Churches of Christ here in the following Sheets , inasmuch as they are but a Reply to a Book lately dedicated unto them . Nor does our zeal , ( we hope ) for Truth , the Honour of God , & the Safety , Peace & Flourishing of these Churches come short of what our Reverend Author may be inspired with in his performance We make the same glorious Pretence with him to maintain & defend the Order of the Gospel , altho' we cannot allow what is suggested in the Title page , That every Principle so strenuously contended for in that Treatise , is either professed or practised by the Churches of Christ in New-England . One part , at least , therefore of his Book the Reverend Author ought to have published in his own Name , and not have obtruded it on the Churches here , whose Practise never gave grounds to suspect them leavened with so gross thoughts , as particularly his Doctrine of the Ordination of Ministers is . We will not guess at the Authors secret aim , or whom in particular he raises his Batteries against We'd charitably hope he has no private Interest to bribe him in this Affair ; and we hope for a like favourable and candid Construction of this Reply . Indeed the Name prefix't to that faulty Treatise , may be presumed , with a multitude of prejudiced People , to weigh down all the Reasons and Arguments which can possibly be brought for their Conviction . And we have no such advantage to boast of ; yet are happy in this , that we are not over-awed by any Name , and the Truth we know is greater , and more venerable than all things . It s well known how liberal some men are of the odious brand of Apostates , for every one who cannot digest the late published Orders : but , without arrogance , 〈…〉 sume , as more due , the Title of Proficients , and doubt not to make it out , that our dissent from many of them is so far from a going back from any Gospel Truth or Order , that it is rather a making progress , and advancing in the Evangelical Discipline . It is a groundless Calumny which is suggested , That a latitude beyond what our Author contends for , is but a betraying the liberties and priviledges which our Lord Jesus Christ has given to his Church , or the Brethren of the Church . These we profess to prize and stand for , and would by no means lose . But wherein do they consist ? not in the Brethrens challenging any part of the Ministerial Work ! Not in imposing upon others any thing which Christ has not imposed ! which is but a debarring Christians of the Priviledges they have a right to . But they consist ( as we conceive ) in such things as these , That our Consciences be not imposed on by Men or their Traditions , Christ being the alone Lord of the Conscience , 1 Cor. 7. 23. That Believers are through Christ , freed from the guilt and dominion of Sin , from the curse of the Law , and from the sting and terror of Death . That we have the liberties of Gods House and Ordinances , & therein communion with God. That we may have the benefit of the gifts of his Ministers for edification , and such like , according to the Apostles Doctrine , 1 Cor. 3. 22. Nor is that Objection less frivolous , when if we appear less Rigid than others of the Reverend Authors severity , we are reflected on as casting dishonour on our Parents , & their pious design in the first settlement of this Land No , we reverence our Ancestors , and the Memory of their divine Zeal and Constancy , and would derive it as a Truth sacred to our Posterity , that it was a religious Interest which carried them through all the amazing Difficulties & Discouragements in that Undertaking . But yet , the particular design or end has been some-what differently conveyed unto us . Some have carried it as if the great end were the Conversion of the Heathen ; and there have been great Complaints by some of late , how this has been neglected and contradicted , and another course taken up , whereby instead of bringing the Heathen into the Church of God , many whose Fathers and themselves were once of the visible Church , are now strangely left out , scarce any face of Religion remaining among them . As for this , we bewail it , and look upon it as a Reproach to the Land , and would therefore countenance no such Principles or Practices as have any tendency to such Apostacy . Again , some have made this the great Design , to be freed from the Impositions of Men in the Worship of God , wherewith they were sometimes burthened ; and as they sought freedom for themselves , we cannot suppose they design'd to impose upon others In this we are risen up to make good their grounds . The Reverend Mr. Willard in his Sermon of the sinfulness of Worshipping God with Mens Institutions , p. 27. gives this as the errand of our fore-Fathers into this Wilderness , namely , to sequester themselves into a quiet corner of the World , where they might enjoy Christs unmixt Institutions , and leave them uncorrupted to Posterity ; and the gain-saying or counter working this , is , as he intimates , to cast dishonour upon them , or call them fools . This Charge falls heavy on those who are for imposing their will on others . We crave no more but to enjoy the Institutions of Christ unmix't . And it appears very strange that those who fl●d from an Act of Uniformity , should presently impose on themselves , on their Neighbours , and entail the Mischief on their Posterity . Some indeed would make the design of our first Planters to consist in some little Rites , Modes or Circumstances of Church Discipline , and those such as the Word of God no where requires These are the men who dishonour their Country , and their Fathers Memory , by making their great design to lie in so small matters . And it is notorious there has been no agreement in these points from the beginning . It s known there was Anti-Synodatia printed , and who had a hand in it , and how modest his Dissent was , and in what terms they contradicted what the Synod had established , tho' the like is criminal and insufferable in any other . These Principles in Church Discipline are also wrote against in English by the Assembly of Divines , by Mr. C●●dry , Mr. Ratherford , Mr. Ba●ly , &c. In a word , if it be the Truth , according to Gods Word , we stand for , it would not be grievous to any of our pious Ancestors , were they now on Earth ; neither will it be grievous to them now in Heaven : nor should it be grievous to any good Man to receive Conviction . We refer all therefore to the Word of God , to the Law and to the Testimony . In the Preface or Epistle to said Book , we find several things that might be justly excepted against , but designing neither to be contentious nor volumnious , we shall speak but to one or two . In pag. 8. the Reverend Author is pleased to number up seven or eight erronious Doctrines , as he apprehends them to be ; & the consequence from all is this , that if we espouse these Principles , we give away the whole Congregational Cause at once . Whence we perceive now the professed cause which the Author engages in ; tho' we hope it is not the Name or the Party , but the Truths they delend . We shall have occasion to examine these Principles hereafter ; it may su●ti●e here to say , they are craftily & unfairly worded , & in the Dress they are here clad , we do not espouse them ; yet according to their most fair & genuine construction there is a great deal of Truth in most of them . And this is but a block the Author politickly casts in the way , which at last we fear may but discourage some from embracing the Congregational way , seeing it must needs fight for its life against some Truths . It s hard kicking against the pricks , Acts 9. 5. Another thing Remarkable in the Preface is the Authors heat and 〈◊〉 , pag 9. Shall we then by Silence betray the Truth ? shall we re●ort , therefore we are bold to speak too . Who is on the Lord side ? Who ? shall we answer , we are , we trust ( through Gods Grace ) together with you ; and all other siding 〈◊〉 would have in contempt Is there no one that will stand up for the Churches of Christ ▪ God orbid but we should , had others declined it ! The good People in them then may well think their Watch-men are all either dead or a sleep : or if they talk light and heady , they may conclude them in a trance , or not quite awaked . 〈◊〉 which cause it is that I dedicate this ensuing Dissertation . And for the same cause we address you in the following answer . It is not my cause , but yours . Nor is it ours , but the Churches . and every good Christians in common . Did I say yours ? nay , it is Christ cause . We list under the same Banners , and would to God we were all as really , as we would seem to be divested wholly of carnal self ........ for truly our present Defence is become the peculiar concern of these Churches . But why all this heat ? we would not interpret too hard ; but these Expressions seem plainly to carry this sense , That every one who obeys not the late published Orders , is an opposer of Truth , not on the Lord side , Enemies to the cause of Christ , and the Churches of New-England . Whereupon the Reverend Author roules himself , and sounds an Alarm to the Churches , To put down all such If this be not involv'd in it , we would beg his Pardon , and be informed better . But truly , Sir , it is a mistaken Zeal , ●dly lavish'd away , and not kindled from above ; ●or we know no such conspiracy against the Truths of our Lord Jesus Christ , or against the good of the Churches in New-England , altho' we are not proselyted to some of your particular Opinions . It appears to us , that the Reverend Authors infirmity in this matter , is the same with the Apostle Johns , Mark 9. 38. Master , we saw one casting out Devils in thy Name , and he followeth not us ; and we forbad him , because he followed not us . Which too forward zeal ou● Lord checks , and reconciles the matter , Vers . 39 , 40. And ●esus answered , forbid him not ; he that is not against ●● is on our part . But in this case , as in many others we ●ould instance in if need were , the Reverend Author , tho' very zealous for a time , yet is not very steady & constant ; for before he ends his Book , he comes about again , in pag , 139. where he proposeth his Brothers Essay for Union wherein he shows how inconsiderable the Differences are between those of the Presbyterian and Congregational judgment , that they need not set Truth to purchase Peace . And yet by the cry just now , you would have thought all the Truths of Christ trampeled under foot , the Cause of Religion deserted . and and a formidable War commenced by the Presbyterians against the order of the Gospel . It is observable , that the Reverend Author in the Dissertation of the following Questions , makes use of abundance of Quotations from several famous Persons in their Generations ; but in some the sence is perverted to a wrong end , beside the obvious intention of the Writers ; in some he brings them in contradicting at one time what they said at another , and sets some in opposition to others . And where he endeavours to confirm his Tenets by the Testimony of some he might , if he had pleased , have brought many others to contradict the same thing . But this is a good way to amuse the Reader , and to cloud his mind , and to terrifie him , by mustering a legion of 〈…〉 artifica● Arguments . We shall be sparing in Quotations , and pass by many cited by the Author , tho' we approve them not . Only we crave leave to present one Quotation , which may be of use to us all along , being we are unwilling to be imposed on to believe what God never spoke , or to do what God never requir'd . It is that of the Reverend Mr. Willa●a , in his fore-quoted Sermon , pag. 23. 24. Hence it follows , that there ●s nothing to be received by us on this account , but what has Gods Seal affixed to it . It s therefore enough to set us down resolved against any such thing , if we can say there is a silence about it in the Scripture , that God has no where commanded it in his word , either expresly , or by just and necessary consequence , it s no Order of his devising . Scripture silence about any Tradition gives a full condemnation , what ever ●leas men may bring for it , as , That it is profitable , many have been edified by it , it is a prudent way to secure the Interest of Religion ; many wise , holy learned Men have pleaded for it and practised it ; that there is much of decency in it and the thing it self is no waye : harm●u● . A●l this is fully answered with that one word , God has spoke nothing about it , Heb. 7. 4. It never entered into his h●art to enjoyn it . Jer. 7. 31. Thus he . This being publickly practised and printed so long a go by so eminent a Minister , and never since contradicted , we take it for granted , that none have any thing to say against it . And we are thankful to him for furnishing us with a Doctrine so fully laid down , to bear off the Institutions , Traditions and Impositions that men would lay upon us . But it is high time now to consider the Questions which the Reverend Author propounds , and the Answer he gives to each of them . In which attempt we shall offer no other Apology for our brevity , save that our Author himself 〈…〉 ight have been as brief , and yet full as clear and 〈…〉 iv● . Gospel Order Revived , &c. THe two first Questions might have been wholy spared , yet may serve as a good Introduction to others of a●● ill aspect . Quest . 1. Whether particular Churches ought to consist of Saints and true Believers in Christ ? It is granted that the matter of a particular Church ( for the Question is not stated with reference to the Catholick ) is visible Saints . And tho' the Answer is not given in the words , yet we would charitably hope his sense is the same , with the united Ministers in London . That none shall be admitted as members in order to Communion , in all the special Ordinances of the Gospel , but such as are knowing and sound in the fundamental Doctrines of the Christian Religion , without scandal in their Lives , and to a judgment regulated by the word of God , are Persons of visible Godliness and honesty , credibly professing cordial subjection to Jesus Christ . Had our Reverend Author only said thus much ( and indeed more is needless ) he had saved us the labour of any Reflections on this part of his Essay . But there is one passage in p. 15 which we cannot but except against . A Scripture , saith he , which has respect in the times of the Gospel , severely rebukes those Ministers , which shall bring men that are uncircumcised in bear● ( unregenerate persons ) into the sanctuary , into the Church of God , to eat the Bread and drink the Blood , which 〈…〉 y that are there , partake o● , Ezek. 44. 7 , 9. A hard saying , and w●o can ●ear it . The Text is here mangled , and the principal things left out . What God has joyned , our Reverend Author has seperated , to drive on his design . The Text saith Uncircumcised in heart , and uncircumcised in flesh : but here we have it only uncircumcise in hea●t , interpreted unregenerate persons . What a rebuke is this to the best of Ministers because ( forsooth ) they are not heart searchers , and dare not invade the prerogative of God. Did the Reverend Author or the Church with him , never admit any un 〈…〉 ●erate Person to communion with them ? He will not dare to pretend to it , and therefore the rebuke is to himself . We know our Lord Jesus Christ admitted Judas uncircumcised in heart , an unregenerate Person to holy things ; and in the purest Ages of the Church there were Hypocrites crept in , many of whom turned Apostates . Nay , our Author is so sensible of this , that p. 19. he quotes the opinion of the Reverend M. Co●ton , That its better to admit diverse Hypocrites than to keep out one sincere Child of God. It is obvious then that Hypocrites may be admitted , and yet the Minister incur neither the rebukes of Conscience , or of this Scripture : nay , he may be approved of God , as doing his Duty , though Hypocrisie may too well consist with sufficient Knowledge found belief , a blameless Life , a credible Profession , &c. To conclude , It s very observeable , the Reverend Author closes this first Enquiry , by saying , That the Churches here are free to admit those into their communion , who are thus qualified . We marvel then his Zeal is not stirred to rebuke them afresh . But what will the Reader think if we should make an Apology after all for the Reverend Author , and assure him he means no more , than that Ministers ought not to admit known Infidels or Prophane ; for , for his part , he pretends not to know mens hearts . We only can intreat the Reader not to rebuke the Author too severely for his inconsistency , for he may mean well , and all parties are agreed . Unless he should imagine himself attacqued by the Reverend Author of the Doctrine of instituted Churches . Q 2. Whether there ought not to be a Tryal of Persons concerning their qualifications and fitness for Church communion , before they are admitted thereunto ? We shall not here examine the force of the Authors arguments , whether they unresistably conclude , or not ; and whether the consequence is good from the tryal of the Apostles , the Porters at the Temple , or the 12 Angels at the Gates of the Mystical Jerusalem , to the tryal of Church Members . It suffices that the Reverend Author has modestly stated this Truth , and cited us to a merciful Bar , the judgment seat of a rational Charity , where the Judge avoids severity , and the tryal is managed with abundant tenderness : the bruised Reed is not broken , nor the smoaking flax quenched : the tender Lambs find the kind Shepherds Arms to fold them , and a gentle carriage in his bosom . This is indeed the part of the good shepherd , and we could now gladly commit our selves to the Reverend Authors Pastoral care . So many good words remove all jealousie of a rigid Tryal . But alas ! the Clouds return upon us , and a black doubt is started , as follows . Q 3 Whether are not the Brethren , and not the Elders of the Church only , to judge concerning the qualifications and fitness of those who art admitted into their Communion ? The Reverend Author allows there may be a difference of apprehension , as to this point , and yet no breach of Union . We think so too , and therefore as we continue to honour the Person , though we expose his opinion ; so we ●o●● the negative will not dele●ve the popular cry , Oh Apostacy ! Apostacy ! The difference , as the Reverend Author tells us , is between the Brethren of the Presbyterian and the Congregational way , the former giving this power only to the Eldership , the latter joyning the fraternity with them . He takes up for the latter ; but whether he proves it , the world may see when we have considered his Arguments . In the fore-going Chapter , when he would prove there ought to be a tryal of Persons , he tells us of the Porters that were set ut the gates of the Temple , 2 Chron. 23. 19 but those Porters were Officers 1 Coron . ●6 . 1. so he Instances in the Twelve Angels at the Gates of the Mystic 〈…〉 Jerusalem , which tho' it may imply that the G●●es were kept , yet not that the fraternity were the keepers . He instances also in Phillip and John the Baptist , which if it argues any thing , is applicable only to the Officers , and not in the Brother-hood . But to examine his strength in this Chapter what he calls argument , may more truly be stiled dogmatical affirming , or a more mean begging the Question . Till pag. 24 , 25. he quotes a cripture or two in proof of his assertions , ●●i● . 1 Corinth . 5. 12. 2 Cor. 2. 6. in both which places the Apostle is writing to the Church at Corinth , about excommunicating the l●cestuou● Person to h●●●●n , and the restoring him again upon his Repentance . And w 〈…〉 t the Reverend Author to the same holy Aposti● for an ●●swer . 〈…〉 t is that known place , 1 Corinth . 1● . chap. where he compares the Church to a mans Body , and shows the distinct offices and operations of the respective Members , as the Eye and Ear , the Hand and Foot. And to render the allusion the more intelligible , he names the Officers God had set over his Church , as more immediately referred to v. 28. God has set some in his Church , first , Apostles , secondarily , Prophets , thirdly , Teachers — and in the close of the 14. chap. he adds , Let all things be done decently and in order . The result of all is this . The Apostle would have every one to keep his proper place and sphere , and do his own work , soil in the Censure of the faulty Person , the Eldership were to do theirs , the Brotherhood not to usu 〈…〉 or arrogate any thing above their Province . For as the Apostle queries , v. 19 are all Apostles ? are all Prophets ? are all Teachers ? i. e. in a govern'd Body we cannot expect all should be Governors , vid. Pool's Annot. There is another Text also produced to prove the power of the Brethren , scil . Mat. 18. 17. and if he shall neglect to hear them , tell it to the Church . This Text has been often brought on this account , and sometimes on other accounts and as often answered , yet here brought again , but it will not answer the end . The Context supposes an Offender , and the wronged party proceeding against him ; and here are three steps the dissatisfied Person is directed to take , in order to heal the wound given , 1. ) To tell the Offender his fault in private . 2 ) To tell him before 2 or 3 witnesses , and if the end be not obtained ; 3. ) To tell it to the Church . Suppose now a Person acting according to this Rule ( as we could give instances if need were ) when the first step did not gain his Brother , nor the second answer the end , at last the dissatisfied Person carried the case to the Pastor , and now he reckened he had told it to the Church . The Pastor sending so the Offendor presently convinced him , brought him to Repentance , and to give satisfaction , and the thing was issued . Here the Rule was attended , the Church told , the offendor healed , the wronged Person satisfied , and the matter issued , when the Brotherhood all this while knew nothing of it . It is evident from the next verse , that by the Church must be meant those who had Power to bind and loose , which Power Christ had given to the Apostles . Moreover let the sense be that the Offence is to be told to the Rulers first , and then by then to the multitude ; not for the multitude to judge of it , but for their warning and example , for their prayers for the offendor , and their approbacion of the Elders Censure , and that they might take care to avoid the familiarity of such an insectious sinner , vid. Pools Annot. But if Scripture will not prove the Power of the Brethren , possibly some venerable Maxim may do the feat . Quod ●angie omnes debet ab omnibus approbari . But alas ! this Maxim gives so much to the Sisters , as to the Brethren . Surely it is no divine Oracle , it neither came from Heaven , nor is it according to the manners of men upon Earth . If a master of a family take in a so●ou●nor or a servant ; all are concerned , but their vote is not asked . If a Captain list a Souldier , all the Company is concerned , but it is done by his Authority , without asking their leave . And pray carry this m●x●m to the Colledge , and see if the President and fellows will stand by it in their admissions . If it be objected , that even in all these cases if there be any sufficient reasons presented by those concerned , a prudent Ruler will yield to it ; we easily grant it , and therefore it s not unfit that men be proposed to the Congregation , if there be any thing to object against their lives , &c. Another argument for the Brethrens Power in admission , is , lest the whole Power should sometimes reside in the hands of a single Minister , and that this is unreasonable we have a Speech quoted from the Presbiterian Ministers in London . But it is strangely perverted from their true meanning , as appears not only from the whole series and scope of the Book , but also from what is expressed in the page quoted ( p. 71. ) where they say , That the Power cannot be placed in the whole Church collectively taken . The Scripture makes an exact distinction between Rulers and ruled . They only plead that there should be more Rulers in a Church then one ; or that , when there are more , then the Power belongs to the whole meaning , the ruling Elders as well as the Teaching . And what is that to the Power of the Brethren ? One officer has Power in plain cases to act in the Kings name . Indeed our Saviour did frequently send forth his Disciples two and two But yet Phillip was sent alone to baptize the Ethiopian Eunuc 〈…〉 It will not excuse a Minister in the neglect of Christs work , because he has no fellow labourers with him . But the strongest argument comes last . The way to keep Popery our of the World , saith our Author , is for the fraternity to assert and maintain that Power , which does of right belong to them . In answer to which , we need only blot out the word fraternity , and in its room write the word Ela●rship . An excellent argument that will equally prove either way ; and by the change of a word serve , also to answer Doctor Owens long Speech , which ends that Chapter . In short , all Power is firstly in Christs ●a●ds , and our Reverend Author produces no commission or order from Christ , for the ●rethren ●● ma 〈…〉 ge the affairs o● his House in his name ; for he has appointed Officers of his own to that end . Q. 4. Whether is it necessary t●at Persons at their admission into the Church should make a publick relation of the time and manner of their Conversion ? The Reverend Author answers in the Negative , and adds , that the Churches of N. E ▪ do not impose it , ●or ought it to be required or desired . He gives four substantial reasons why it ought not And had he stopt here , he had done well , or had he added more reasons to those four , as he could have done , it had been an acceptable performance . But about he wheels again , and seems to plead hard for it , or something like it , which he calls the Practice of the Churches of New England . This he would recommend from a story receiv'd from the Reverend Mr. Eliot , but we have heard another story from the same Reverend Person , how when one of the Brethren was highly commending his neighbours Relation , and prefer●●●g it to others , the said Mr. Eliot turned upon him , and said , A● Brother ! don 't be so much taken with fine words , but look to the mans conversation . The Author relates another story from the Reverend Mr. Ho● , of one who through importunity was brought to make a relation , and made the Congregation weep , when he did it ; but whether for joy or grief , we are left in the dark . The Author gives us his arguments , but they do not reach his end . He pleads for them in that they are edifying ; but we have known some that have been no ways so ; or granting they were always so , can that justifie the instituting and imposing them ? would it ●ot be edifying if every Sabbath day evening , some well disposed ( talkative ) Brethren should stand up and relate the experiences of the week past ? yet shall we make it a law or custom ? will not some people assure you , they have been wonderfully edified by a womans preaching in Publick ? and yet will our Reverend Author be induced to prostitute his Pulpit to them , or part with a Sallary to cherish their zeal . Again , the Relation of Experiences is pleaded for , in that God may be Honoured by them . But we have known some to Gods dishonour , being in●●pid , sensless things , to use our Authors own words , meer formalities , too scandalous and superstitious . He saith , they are a means to gain love with the Children of God. But we have known some that have lost love and credit by them . But the Question is , Whether they are an instituted means for any of these ends ? Whether appointed by God , to promote his glory , edisie the Congregation , or gain love ? If not , they are but the Institutions of men , and therefore to be rejected , as the before quoted Mr. Willard instructs us . God has appointed the preaching the Gospel , the Sacraments , &c. for edification , and the promoting Christian love among his people ; but we read nothing of these imposed relations , neither when Christ himself , nor when his Apostles after him , administred this holy Sacrament . Nor is there any appearance of such a Custom in the primitive Church . Indeed , there are some occasions , as our Author observes , on which a Person who has had a remarkable Conversion , may declare it : but there 's neither precept nor rule in the Word of God , that it should be done at this set time , and in publick . And with what sace can we impose it , when our Fathers fled from the impositions of men ? whether arbitrary Impositions are insufferable in themselves , or not ; yet certainly they are ●old and insolent in New-England , where the greatest out-cry is made against them in others . But it would make a man smile , were he never so serious or displeased , to read the Texts that are brought for this Custom ; as that Psal . ●0 10. I have not concealed thy Truth from the great Congregation . And indeed the Royal Prophet had been inexcusable if he had , as a Minister would now , that should not declare to his flock the whole counsel of God. Again , Psal . 66. 16. he says , Come and hear all you that fear God , and I will declare what he has done for my soul . We imagine the Reverend Author supposes the Psalmist thus calling aloud in some vast religious Concourse , and that in order to his partaking of the priviledges of the Jewish Church . But should we grant a supposal so ridiculous and extravagant , yet this makes nothing for imposing Relations , for then it should have been spoken and challenged by the People . Do you come , and stand forth , Sir , and tell us what God has done for your soul , and then we admit you to all the priviledges of the Temple . Another Text strangely perverted to scare some good people is , that , Mat. 10. 33. Whosoever denyeth me before men , him will I also deny before my father which is in Heaven . As if there were no confessing Christ , without making formal speeches in the Church . And as if a credible profession of our faith in Christ , the taking his Name upon us in Baptism , and the renewal of our Baptismal Vow , and a devout attendance on the Ordinances of the Gospel , were not the true confession our Lord expects ! Wo be to the world , if all were to be rated , denyers of Christ ; who whether from inability , modesty or a just indignation , refuse to make a quaint Speech in the Church . The last Scripture we shall name , which has been equally abused with the rest is that in 1 Pet. 3. 15. That Christians should be ready to give a reason of the hope that is in them , to everyone that asketh it , to wit , in a proper place and time , for a fit end , and on sufficient Reasons , where there is Authority to command , or it is desired with modesty . The sense indeed is , that we should be ready to defend our Faith against the scoffs and cavils of Infidels and Persecutors : and that it is a shame to Christians not to be able to argue for their Religion , and confute gain-sayers . So that if you would infer hence any publick Speech in the Church , it must be rather an Apology for the Christian Religion , or a Sermon to prove its reasonableness and evidence ; but neither is it in the least intimated that this should be made a stated term of Communion ; and we are sure the Church has no more power to debar the resuser from any Christian priviledge then to require Oaths , Subscriptions , and Conformity to a Thousand more Ceremonies . We have but one Remark more to make here , and that is , the Apostle requires this reason of our hope to be given with meekness & fear . The true sense whereof is , that which we are contending even with Infidels , yet we must not argue with an intemperate Passion or Zeal . Or if we construe it , as in opposition to Pride and Presumption of a mans own g●f●s and abilities ; It is a severe Rebuke to many of our bold and forward Zealots , who have been famed for their promptness to speak in the Church , and the first that have fallen under its deserved ●ash . We should indeed be better reconciled to this custom of Relations , were this prescribed meekness and fear more visible in them . But this is the misery , the more meek and fearful are hereby kept out of Gods House , while the more conceited and presum●tuous never boggle at this , o● any thing else . But it seems there is a gross Corruption of this laudable practice which the Author does well to cen●ure ; and that is , when some , who have no good intention of their own , get others to devise a Relation for them . The Author may be satisfied there is something of truth in such reports ; neither Charity nor Interest should make us too incredu●●us . But then he passes a severe sentence on such Lyars to the holy Ghost . Which they truly deserve , i● in their relations they pretended to tell the time and manner of their Conversion , or if they so much as suggested it to be their own devising ; but if it be only a profession of their Faith & Repentance , it is not material who composes it , if they can conscientiously subscribe to it . And indeed a general . form might be best of all in the case , if they must needs be made us . To sum up all , we not only believe ( with our Author ) that such as delude the Church , by bringing relations not of their own devising , do exceedingly provoke the Lord ; but also that the imposers of them as a term of Communion , do so too . Q● . 5. Hath t●● Church Covenant , as commonly practised in the Churches of New. England , any Scripture foundation ? In reference to this Question , the Reverend Author and others of his opinion , in their discourses about it , love much to keep in the dark . We confess our selves at a loss about those words ( as commonly practised ) and Solomon has long ago told us , that he that answers a matter before he understands it , it is a folly and shame to him . The Reverend Author knows we suppose , or if he don't , we do , that in some Churches of N. E. they have no Church Covenant at all , and that in other Churches it is differently p 〈…〉 ▪ Some understand by it only a Covenanting with God to perform by his Grace the Duties we owe to him , and our Christian B●e●●●en , & accordingly ●o propose it ; others mean by it a Covenant with a particular Church , whereby they are bound to walk in Communion therewith , till by their consent dismissed . Others will have it to be a necessary Qualification in order to a persons partaking of the Lords Supper , either there or else where ; And others have Notions of it quite different from all these . The Reverend Author first bears us down with a formidable Authority , telling us the Question was considered at a General Convention of the Ministers , May , 1●98 and that all the Ministers then present save one , did concur in the Affirmative , but we have heard q●●te otherwise , and that it was then proposed and urged to have the Church Covenant more distinctly opened , though it was not hearkened to . It is a good policy to hurry on a vote their cause depends on , and like a first Principle , it must not be deliberated or debated ; and such , as we hear , was the mannagement of that vote . And it is observeable the Reverend Author avoids ( whether indust●iousty or no , we shall not guess ) to state the nature of this Covenant , but confusedly saith , as it is practised by the Churches in N. E. In the Preface we have the Authors own description of this Covenant , where he calls it explic●t Covenanting with God and his Church , and sometimes with God and his People . But we renew our Complaint , that we are yet most miserably in the dark . It might be enquired here , whether it be two distinct Covenants , one with God and the other with his People ? i● so , which of them is the proper Church Covenant ? If but one , whether it binds the person that enters into it , to perform the same Duties to God , and to the Church ▪ and in case a person be dismissed , whether it is from his whole duty or from a part of it ? and whether God and his Church Promise ●he same thing to the party covenanting ? These Queries are offer'd only to provoke a clear state of the thing debated , which should be cleared to the understandings of people , before it s imposed on their Consciences , as a term of Communion . But before our Author ends this Chapter , he puts another disguise , and a more taking face on this matter . He would inf●●uate that the Church Covenant , as practised in New-England , is nothing more than the publick Profession of Faith , and promise of a holy L●●● ; for which he quotes both Synods and several private Reverend mens Names . But this unfair dealing may be stript of its disguise , by shewing in what sence we allow a Church Covenant , and in what sence we allow it not . 1 st . We own and plead for a Covenant with God , whereby a Person or People become his , and b●nd themselves to walk in all his ways . This was the Covenant that constituted Israel of old to be a Church and People of God , and which God made with Abraham and his Seed after him , by which ●● became , in a special manner , their God , and they his People ▪ This is the Covenant that Israel renewed with God in the Wilderness , ●●cut . 26. 17 , 18. To this God annexed his Seals , Circum●●sion in the days of old , and Baptism under the Gospel . It s by this Covenant that a Person or People are united to Christ the head , and do become Members of his Body . By this the Catholick Church is constituted , and we have an Interest in all those Priviledges that belong to believers , as such . This is the Covenant we own , and which we renew every time we attend the publick Wors●i● of God , Psal . 50. 5. and this Covenant ought to be explicit , openly professed and published to the World. It is a false and abusive in nu●tion ( but frequently made in an awful Desk ) that People are against all explicit Covenanting , or the open renewal of it ; for there is no pretence for such a C●lumny , that we can hear of : It must therefore arise either from idle Fears , or some mischievous Policy . 2 ●ly . We also highly approve of a Covenant of Reformation . A great 〈…〉 uty in times of Apostacy , and gross corruption of Manners ; to covenant to put away these and those reigning sins , to return to the Lord , and perform such particular Duties as have been visibly neglected . O● this we have frequent instances in Scripture , Ezra 10 3 5. 3dly . We may also allow a Covenant between Minister & People , whereby they ●i●● themselves to th●se respective Duties , that the Word of God has made incumbent on them , on account of that Relation . But we altogether deny a Church Covenant in the following sense , and say , Our Lord Jesus Christ has no where appointed in his Word , that there should be a Covenant ent●●'d into by some Persons of a Christian Society , exclusive of the rest , whereby they being in Covenant one with another , should thereby call themselves a Church of Christ , making the Ordinances of Christ , or any of them to depend on this Covenant , so that those who scruple it , or refuse to joyn in it , shall on that account , not enjoy them . And that those who are thus covenanted , or the major part of them , have power to make or unmake Officers , to admit or reject Church Members , to mannage Discipline , to order the affairs of Christs House in his Name , as if they had warrant and commission from him so to do . Of such a Church Covenant neither Moses , nor Christ himself , the Prophets nor the Aposties have spoke any thing . None of the Scriptures , Arguments or Quotations of our Reverend Author prove any thing of it . We will take leave therefore to call it Mans Covenant , and no● Gods , for it has nor Gods Seal affixed to it ; & though good , wise or learned men may endeavour to obtrude it , and plead , its harmless , ●●ifying , or for the Interest of Religion , yet according to the afore-quoted Rule of the reverend Mr. Willard , we are to reject it , and shall do so , till it comes with a divine Stamp . But possibly this may be called a Misrepresentation . You will say , Who owns it , or will plead for it in this Dress ? We Answer , by querying , Whether there be not several that own and plead for the things contained in it ? We wish there were a less Number . But to evince it , let us take it into the several parts . Are there none that plead for a seperate Covenant , which some ( and generally the lesser part ) must enter into ? and if it be good , and for good ends , why must so many be excluded ? If it be to reform Manners , if to maintain the Ministry and Worship of God , if to lay stricter Bonds of Duty , if to bring men more effectually to submit to Discipline , why then are not the whole brought in ? for the whole Congregation are oblig'd to these Duties , and why must the Covenant be seperate ? Again , do not some plead , it is requisit , in order to a Persons partaking of the Lords Supper ? But did our Lord Jesus Christ require any such thing when he first instituted that holy Sacrament ? Did the Apostles when they administred it ? Was it the term of Communion in the primitive Church ? or where i● the Scripture that commands it ? and why should Gods holy Ordinances be annexed to Mens Covenant ? Again , do not some plead , that those who thus covenant , have the Power to make and unmake Officers ? The Reverend Author will not scape here , whose Opinion in this matter we shall see hereafter . And , finally , do not some pretend , ●●at these are the Persons commissioned by Christ , for the admitting and rejecting of Church Members ? This the Reverend Author defends with all his Might , under the third Question , tho' , as we showed , he could find no Proof . And so much for the Church Covenant , which is a stranger to the Scripture , and has no foundation in the Word of God. Q. 6. Is publick Reading of the Scriptures , without explication or exhortation there-with , part of the Work incumbent on a Minister of the Gospel ? The Author does not mean , ( as we suppose , ) if there be no explication or exhortation throughout the whole time of exercise . If he doth , he fights with the air , for we know no Sect of Men but have some explication , tho' many among us neglect reading . We therefore take his sense to be this , If no explication follow immediately without the interposition of Prayer , or any other part of divine Worship . For we conceive that the ordinary preaching the Word may very properly be call'd exposition , explication & exhortation , and that in every Sermon there is a competent portion of Scripture for one time explicated and applyed . No● can we imagine , the Reverend Author means that every clause a Minister reads in publick should be in a formal manner explicated : Methinks it should satisfie , if after one or more Chapters read , some select clause , verse o● paragraph be insisted on and expounded , i. e. chosen as a Text , and preached on . We are obliged to the Author , if but for quoting the Text in Timothy , where it is given him in charge , as his Ministerial Work , To give attendance to Reading , as well as to Doctrine & Exhortation That the Jews were wont to read the Scriptures in their Synagogue , saith the Reverend Author , we all know ; and that it was their Duty to read the Scripture at some set and solemn Times , we also know ; for so it was appointed , Deut. 31. 11. Again , he grants that in Just in Martyrs time the Scriptures were read , and thereupon followed a Sermon . We should have been thankful if he had added more Proofs , by way of Encouragement ( as he could easily have done ) and thereby confirmed some that are apt to stagger . He could have to●d how the Assembly of Divines at West minster , do order and advise to i● : He could have quoted the many famous Churches that do practise it at this day : He could have named several famous Ministers in England , and some in New-England , that plead for it , and practise it . He could have told of more than the Bishop of Derry that complain of the neglect of it , and that ( to use the wo●ds of a most eminent Divine not far from us ) as the most just Reproach that the Churches of New-England labour under . He could have told , for encouragement , that it is a clause in our publick Confession of Faith in New-England , chap. 22. which treats of Religious Worship , and the Sabbath day , Sect. 5 ▪ The reading the Scriptures , Preaching and hearing the Word of God , singing of Psalms , as also the Administration of Baptism and the Lords Supper , are all parts of the Religious Worship of God , to be performed in Obedience to God with Vnderstanding , Faith , Reverence and godly ●ear . Finally , He could have told us ( had he searched all our New-England Antiquities on this head ) how in the Preface to our Version of the Psalms , the reading of David's Psalms as other Scriptures ) in Churches , is taught to be one end of them , as well as singing of them , which is another end . It is ridiculous to say , that reading , with exposition is here meant ; for then why was it not so said ? However , it looks very oddly , that they who neither read nor exp●u●d , should talk so much , and quote so many Name● , as our Author has done , for a Practice which they never intended to come up unto . We have heard what our Author has said , and much more that he could have said to encourage this good Practice : His Discouragements follow : And first , he brands it with a hard uncouth Name , and twice tells us , that som● call it Dumb Reading ▪ We wish he had named those that so term it . There is so much Venom in the Epithite , and so complicated a Mali●nity in the Phrase , that we fear its infectious , and may propagate a Spirit of Pride , & contempt of his Neighbours , and irreverence to his Maker . The Author well thought , so odious a Mark on the Front , would give all honest People a disgust to ●● villanous and stigmatiz'd a Practice . But his Policy has failed him , for it raises a just Indignation in all sensible and ●n●enuous Christians . We will for once inform the Reverend Author , that the Scriptures are read in Churches audibly and intelligibly . Nor can we guess what Dumb reading should mean , unless when men sleep over their Books ; and in charity to the Author , we wish he had been a sleep when this unlucky word dro●t from his Pen. We are further beholden to the Author for his judgment , that the reading of one Chapter , with a brief explication , wi●● edifie the Congregation more than the bare reading of twenty Chapters . But this is only his single Opinion , and as it will not weigh against the daily experience of thousands of People , who must judge for themselves ; so neither does it favour of modesty , to think any one of his Sermons o● short Comments , can edifie more than the reading of twenty Chapters . We would not charge on the Reverend Author all the hard consequences of his own words , or we should say , that it is audacious so vilely to disparage the Inspirations of God. Alas ! Sir , the Scripture wants nothing of ours to make it Perfect . We have the Confessions of many who have come to hear the Word read with prejudice , that God gives it authority from the lips of the Minister ▪ And we know , that as all Scripture is given by Inspiration of God , so it is in it self profitable ( without any help or advantage from us ) for Doctrine , for Reproof , for Correction , for Instruction in Righteousness — ●o perfect the Man of God , the Minister as well as his People ; and if it were not so in it self , it could not be so by being explained . Here let our Confession of Faith speak for us , chap. 1. Sect. 7. All things in Scripture are not alike plain in themselues , nor alike clear unto all ; yet those things w 〈…〉 are necessary to be known , believed and observed for Salvation , are so clearly propounded & opened in some place o● Scripture or other , that not only the learned , but the unlearned , in a due use of the ordinary means , may attain unto a sufficient understanding of them . There is one Argument in pag● 47 , 48 ▪ brought by the Reverend Author against this Dumb Reading , but so picious a stu●●ble , so miserable an incon●equence , that we are loath to name i● . To issue this Head , we are more and more confirmed , that the reading Gods Word in the great Congregation , is so far from being offensive to God , that it is the greatest Reverence and Honour we can do it , and the most suitable acknowledgment we can make to him , who in mercy has given us his Word , and will judge the World by it at the great Day . Qu. 7. Is Baptism to be administred to all Children , whom any professing Christians shall engage to see educated in the Christian Religion ? The Reverend Author , according to his wonted Bounty , a● first dash concedes to us , that he will not oppose the adoptive right . We then declare our selves satisfied , and crave no more ; for we do not conceive that any man can engage or undertake for the Education of a Child in the Christian Religion , unless he has the Authority of a Parent devolved on him , for the government of the Child . Nor would any conscientious Minister accept the engagement of one who has no power or ability to perform his Vows . So that this engagement necessarily implyes the care and authority of a Father , and consequently there is an adoptive Right to Baptism . But the Author stumbles at the phrase , professed Christians , and seems to think that the Question , if carried in the Affirmative , would conclude for Papists , Socinians , and the groslest Hereticks , as also for the most notorious Prostigates , and prophane Persons ; as if it ever entered into the heart of a Protestant Divine to accept the Engagement of some lewd Debauchce or professed Papist to institute his Child for the Devil or Popery . Our complaint here is the same that the Reverend Mr. How once made of his Adversaries , That ●e gravely falls a combating with his own Man of Straw , and so we are to be tortured in Effigie . But to pacific him , we would inform him what a charitable Man would understand by a professed Christian , vi● . the s●me that our Catechism does , when it instructs us , That Baptism is not to be administred to any till they profess their Faith in Christ , and obedience to him . We leave our Author therefore to fight it out with that Reverend Assembly , for truly his Argument is form●dable against them , in as much as Papists , Socinians , Heretick ; the Prophane , &c. do all profess their Faith in Christ , and Obedience to him . Such is the Power of Interest , Faction , Passion and personal Opposition , that it blinds a Man on a suddain to fight with those Truths which he has learned and reverenced from his Infancy . Qu. 8. Is Baptism in a private House , where there is no Church Assembly , allowable ? The Question seems to grant , there may be a Church Assembly in a private House ( as we read , Rom. 16. 5. Phil. 2. ) so there may be a publick place , and no Assembly ▪ We agree with the Reverend Author , that Baptism is a part of the publick Ministry , nor may it be administred by one who is not called to the publick Ministry ; neither should it usually and o●●ina●●ly be administred but in a full Congregation , and in the most publick manner , nor would we drop a word to discourage so pious a Practice . Yet , let the Congregation be never so great , if the Administrator be not a publick Minister , commissioned by our Lord Jesus Christ , it may be called private Baptism , and altogether unallowable ; and if the number of people be small , and the place otherwise private , yet if the Administrator be a publick Officer and Minister of Christ , the Baptism may in a sense be called Publick , and in some cases ( as that of dangerous sickness ) not only allowable but necessary , and a duty . When a Justice of the Peace acts in his Office , though but few are present , yet they are acts of publick Authority , as truly as those done in higher Courts , and with greater solemnity . Altho among us , where Churches are orderly settled , there is little occasion either for private preaching or Baptism , it being certain the more publick both are , the more God and his Ordinances are honoured , & th● general profit of his people consulted . But yet ( as was hinted before ) there are some cases of necessity , wherein it s ones duty to seek a more private Baptism ; the providence of God not permitting a more publick attendance , and no Minister ought to refuse their desire . As for instance , in apparent danger of death , it would be cruelty to deny such a request , if privacy be the only Objection . We need not suggest , that all what we call private Baptism there may be a competent number of people present ; the neighbourhood being called in , and notice given to some of the Brethren of the Church . We observe a good Medium herein between the two dangerous extreams . We avoid all unnecessary & common Baptizing in private , for which our Brethren in England are so very faulty ; and we would correct our own defects here at home , in refusing to Baptise in private , be the extremity never so great , or life never so ●azardous . Not that we are at all ti●ged with the error of St. Austin , namely , a pe●swasion of the absolute necessity of Baptism to Salvation : ●ut we ●●●eem i● the most publick owning of God which the state of the person admits of or the providence of God a● present allows , and 〈…〉 good to ●e found in the way of blessing , and we may expect that 〈…〉 his own Instit●tions . 〈…〉 the lawfulness of private Baptism , in cases of necessity , abundantly appears from that One instance of the Goaler , Acts 15. 33. To ●●●ch our Author answers , St. Paul was an extraordinary Officer . But by his leave , that is nothing to the purpose ; for the ordinary Ministers of the Gospel succeed the Apostles in those thing in ta●e of an ordinary and standing nature in the Church , as baptism i● ▪ ●ndeed , his other reason is good , that it was difficult , if no● impossible to get a Congregation of Christians ; and therefore necessity was put upon the Apostle to Baptize the Goaler and family in private ; which plainly holds forth thus much , that in like cases of necessity , as in times of persecution , danger of Death &c. the same practice is allowable and a duty ; wherein we have the promise of Christs gracious Presence with us , as well as when it i● administred in a larger Congregation Mat. 18. 20. For where two o● th●●e are gathered together in any Name , there a● I in the midst of them . Q. 9 O●ght all that contribute towards the maintenance to have the privileage of voting in the Election of a Pastor ? The Reverand Author in the very first line of his answer to this question , t●r●sts in a most ●●kind in●●nuation , and not altogether free from Calumny , as if the affirmative could not be maintained , but the change of Simony must be incurred . We therefore once for al profess , that we abhor as much as he pretend to do , the thought that Money should purchase us Church priviledges ; but this is so wide a Ramble that it is not worth while to say more to it . All the Authors arguments under this head infer only that it is the Churches priviledge to chuse their own Minister . And ●●der his 4th argument he tells us , that nothing is more evident , then that in the first Ages of the Church , Pastors were chosen by all and only their flocks . Which we verily believe , no● could he have expressed the truth in more apt words . For long since he has caught us , I ●as adult baptized Persons are of the Church , and 〈◊〉 proved it in his Treatise annixed to the first Principles of New England , under which denomination they claim the priviledge of voting in the election of a Minister . Indeed there is one argument at first blush seems pretty plausible , p. 68. for them who have no rig●● to the Lord● Supper themselves , ●o ap●on●t ●●● shall be the Dispencer o● that Ordinance to others , is ●ig●ly irrational . We Answer ; The administration of the Lords Supper is but one part of a Ministers work , and but a little part , compared with all the rest . Let us turn the argument then , and say , For some few to appoint who shall be the Preacher to the whole Congregation , is as highly irrational . Suppose we what is frequent in this Country ) thirty or forty Communicants , and it may be two hundred to be admitted in convenient time ; is it not every whi● as absurd , that not one of these who are to be examined , prepared and admitted to this holy Ordinance , shall have liberty to chuse the Person who shall do this Work for t●em ; but the Person must be altogether chose by others , wh●● he has not this Work to do for . A hopeful argument that will help both sides ! The Reverend Author calls it A priviledge purchased for the Communicants Only by the Blood of Christ ; but he gives no proof a● all of any such Appropriation , and leaves ●● yet in the firm belief , that the Priviledge is purchased for the whole Flock , who had need stand for their own . We might here borrow of the Author the Maxim he gave us in another case , Quod tangit omnes ●●b●t a● o●●●b●s app 〈…〉 ar● It was exploded in the other case , but if he will give u● leave to put in Aequaliter ( Quod tangit omne● aequaliter , &c. ) then ●t would suit the cas● , and afford him some conviction . The Reverend Author also gives us another Maxim in pag. 87. with this Elogium , That it has its foundation in Nature and Reason , though we are sure it makes strongly against him here , namely ▪ That which Pertains to all is not valid , if some of all sorts have not a consent in it ; for some places have no Communicants , and there all grant this Right and Priviledge belongs to the whole : if afterwards they come to have some Communicants , by what Rule or Reason do they take away that Priviledge which belonged to others before ? In short , let our Author find one Text that limits or confines it to the Communicants alone , and then deprive the Majority . But since Scripture fails him , he has another Refuge , viz. the Authority of the Synod , and the Law of the Land. The last of these we think excepts Boston , and of both we need only say , that as they were done by men , so they may be altered and undone by the same men , when they please . It is also hinted , That this may prove fatal to the Churches . But there is no danger , Truth does no harm ; and we rather think it may be retorted on the Author and his Practice . There was lately a grievous Complaint made by a principal Man of Swanzy , before some Ministers and others , That the Law which gives the Power to the Communicants only to call a Minister , is like to ruin them and their Posterity forever , by excluding them from an able and orthodox Ministry , and the Ordinances ; for the Baptists taking advantage thereby , have set up a gifted Brother , and spoil the place of the publick Ministry . Qu. 10. Is it expedient that Churches should enter into a Cons●ciation or Agreement that matters of more than ordinary ●●●ortance , such as the gathering a new Church , the Ordination , Deposition , or Translation of a Pastor , be done with common consent ? The Reverend Author answers , That it is both expedient and necessary ; though he had answered as well , had he said , It is altogether needless . But le●t we be mis-understood in this matter , let the Reader carefully observe , We do not mean that the Communion , or Fellowship , or Prayer , or Assistance , or Duties that the Church or People of God owe to one another , are needless . But for particular Churches , that are parts , and result from the Catholick , and are united to the Head , and in Covenant with him , and bound to perform all Duties both to the Head & to all the Members respectively ; for such to talk of entering into an agreement on this account , seems very idle and needless . To i●●ustrate the matter ; if a Servant has bound himself to a Master , he need not go to make new Covenants to carry it dutifully to the Mistress , lovingly to the Children , faithfully to the fellow Servants , this being all contained in the Masters Covenant . So , if a Person marry a Husband , she has no need to make a new Covenant with his Father , that he shall be her Father , or that his Brothers , Sisters or other Relations shall become hers , this being all ●mplyed in the M●●●i●g● Covenant : The respective Duties must be performed , but there is no need of new agreements or covenants to be entered into Mr. Burroughs , as quoted by the Reverend Author , expresses this well . They are bound in Consc●ince to give an account of the wayes to Churches about them , or to any other who shall req●ir● it ; and this not in an A●bitra●● way , ●●t as a Duty they owe to God and Man. The united B●eth●e● in London speak yet more fully in the Chapter of Communion o● C●ur●●es , ● . 1. We agree that particular Churches ought not to walk so dist●●ct and seperate from each other , as o● to have care and tenderness to one another . But their Pastors ought to have frequent Meeting together , that by mutual advice , support , encouragement and b●ot●●●ly intercourse , they may strengthen the ●earts and hands of each other in the ways of the Lord. We may add here the whole Chapter of occasional Meetings of Ministers , and so dismiss this Question . Qu. 11. May the Brethren in Churches , and not the Pastors only , be sent unto , and have their Voice in Ecclesiastical Councils ? It is to be observed , that by this means the Brethren in a Synod will surpass the Elders in Number , and by a Cabal may easily out vote them ▪ Wherefore we can never believe that our Lord Jesus Christ has left every private Brother an equal Vote with any of his Officers , in ruling o●●●●●agi●g his Church . It will be granted that the advantage is of the Elders side , as to Learning , Prudence , Par●● , Piety , Zeal and Devotion , at least , taking the whole Synod together ; yet that men of mean Parts , no Education , nor under the awe of an Office that obliges to the care of Souls peculiarly , should be equalled to the former in all Decisions , tho' not Debates , whereof they are uncapable , is very unaccountable . Indeed , had our Lord in his Word positively required this , we might expect that his Spirit of Counsel would more abundantly reside on the weaker Vessels ; but otherwise , to fill a Council from the Plough , and the ●●all , is a tempting Christ , and betraying the Church . Neither are we ignorant what Tools they are in the hands of any one designing Man of a Reverend and August Name , let his Opinions be what they will ; these are Bigg●●s , and the Man is himself a Synod . We co●s●ss such a Man would be tempted to stand up for the Brethrens Authority , which is his own support , and the mean while the Church is like to be well govern'd . But what is a further Outrage to the sacred Office , the Author will not let Ministers fit as Officers of Christ , or as Persons authorized by him ; for thus he expresses himself , pag. 80 It s not their Office , but the Churches Delegation , that g●v●●● Power to th 〈…〉 Members of Sy●●●● ▪ the specificating Act in which Synod all Power , and so the rig●● o● a decisive Vote ●●●o●nded , is t●e Churches Delegation . And to prove this , he instancet● i● the first Synod that ever sate , as ●e terms that Acts 15. a Copy and Samplar left to all succeding Generations . But how Comical is this ? as if that was so constituted , or its Members delegated by particular Churches . Or , how long had this inspired Synod sat before that case was brought before them ? or were they summoned upon this single occasion ? Truly the Author beg● the whole , and proves nothing of it . Indeed , the Reverend Author tells us in the same page , That of these Delegates from the Churches , the ●l●ers o●g●t to be the principal , or principally concerned . A mighty grace ineed ! yet even this cannot be allowed , and he consistent with himself ; for in the next page he tells us , There are some Brethren in the Churches , whose Gifts and Abilities are beyond their Pastors , and some again are more Noble and Honourable . Now if they are alike delegated , and those can act no more in the Name of Christ than the other , pray why should they be the principal ? Why may not a ●rother of equal Authority as●ume and arrogate the first place to himself , which if he chance to do , we leave the Author to be catechized by him , and to do Pennance patiently by his own Principles . Qu. 12. Doth the Essence of a Ministers Call consist in his being Ordained with the imposition of hands by other Ministers ? Qu. 13. May a Men be ordained a Pastor , except to a particular 〈…〉 , ana in the presence o● that Church ? We joyn these two together , partly because they are of near affinity , and partly because some things the Reverend Author asserts under one of them , may indifferently be referred to the other . Our chief Exceptions may be reduced to these five . 〈…〉 . That he asserts , she essence of a Ministers Call consists in a mutual election between him and his People , pag 91. If we under●tand the Author , he means , that a person cannot be a Minister without his mutual Election , and that with it he may , and is . He had just before no●ed , that some think the essence of the Ministry to he in Orai 〈…〉 on ; others , in its being done by a Bishop ; Which last No●●o●●●ts off ( saith ●● ) m●st of the Ministers in France , Switzerland , Denmark , 〈…〉 d , Scotland , &c. But , to retort you words , Sir , we think that your assertion cuts off more both for Number and for Eminence . It cuts off the Prophets , the Apostles and Evangelists ! It cuts off all the Bishops that are and have been . And though these in general , may signifie l●●tie with our Reverend Author , yet some of them he mentions as great and eminent Lights . He cuts off Thousands of Presbyters , famous Ministers , who apprehending the Essence of their Ministerial Call to ●ie in their being ordained and sent of God , do who●y wave this mutual Election , as a little thing . The Scipture speaks ●ery highly and honourably of the Ministerial Calling . They are ●a●ed Ministers of God , of Christ , of the New Testament , of the Gospe● : Ministers in the Lord , Ambassadors for Christ ; Angels , Lights , Stewards of the Mysteries of God , &c. All whi●● th●ws , that not only the ●●●enc● , but the Excellency of the Ministry con●●sts in their Relation to God and our Lord Jesus Christ , and to that seperate and sacred Work that the holy Ghost has called them unto , Acts ●3 2. But what scripture in●i●●tes to us , That their Essence or Emmency lies in their Relation to this or that particular People ? The Prophets of old never pleaded their Election by Man , but that they were called , sent , ordained and commissioned by God. The Authors chief Argument here is a Supposition of Shipwrack upon some desolate Island : and we easily grant , that one of the Company being elected , may become a Minster of God unto them , but it is more from the Providence and Call of God , than their Election . It s God must furnish 〈…〉 It● God must incline him to undertake it : Its God that ●●i●s up the People to receive and entertain him as a Minister : God gives success to his Ministry , &c. But besides this , it is to be considered , that God does not tye himself to those means which he has tyed us unto in ordinary cases ; according to that usual saying , Jus divinum p●s●tivum cedit juri divino Natural● . The case is who●●y extraordinary , and God that makes the Necessity wi●● also dispence with our unavoidable Complyance . Were our Author in the right , the sinful Will of Man , whereon the Election does depend , might frustrate the whole Ministry that Christ has instituted . But , alas ! whether men will hear , o● whether they will for bear , our Lord will send his Ministers ; and whether Men will call them or no , they shall beforced to confess , Verily , we had Prophets among us , Ezek. 33 ▪ 33. We wonder also , that they ●●o insist upon it , That it is Christs peculiar Prerogative to state his own Worship , should s●oil him of another part of it , to make his own Officers . If the People may do one , why not the other ? And it increases our Wonder , that the Reverend Author should revive this Assertion at this ti 〈…〉 of day , Forty six years after it has been so learnedly and so fully refu●ed in Jus Divinum Ministerij Eva g●li●i , published by the Provincial Assembly of London , chap. 9. without taking Notice of their Answers and Arguments . 2dly . We shall p●ss by several things in these Chapters , which in a severe Disquisition , we might justly except against . Our second Charge is , That he makes imposition of hands a little unnecessary Ceremony . Though we can distinguish between Ordination and I ●position of Hands , and approve what the afore-mentioned Assembly says , pag. 157. We must distinguish between the Substance , Essence and formal Act of Ordination , and the Rite used therein . The Essential Act of Ordination is the constit●ting or appointing a man to be a Minister , or the sending him with Power and Authority to preach the Gospel ▪ The Rit● is Imposition of hands . Yet we can see no reason why this Rit● , being of divine Institution , 1 T●m . 5. 22. used by the Apostles , the primitive Church , and generally since the Reformation , should now be run down as so triffling a Ceremony ▪ We know the Reyerend Author could have quoted a whole L●af of famous Authors , who speak highly for it . If the Provincial Assembly at London displease him , the New-England Plat-form may satisfie him , That Church Officers are not only to be ●●o●●n by the Church , but ab●● ordained by Imposition of hands , and Prayer ; or the Answer to the 32 Questions , that says expresly , Ordination is necessary by divine Institution . But , i● the Author indeed disquieted it the imposition of hands , because but a Ceremony ? It is out looking back to pag 80 and we shall see he as much magnifies and contends for as meer a Rite , to be sure , s●●l . the right hand of fellowship . The Reverend Author not only speaks meanly of the laying on of hands of the Presbytery , but ●● too ●●ch countenances the Imposition of hands by Brethren , or Persons out of Office. His Text of Scripture , Numb . 8 , 9 , 10. respecting the Children of Israel ▪ s putting their hands on the Levites , is so fully and punctually answered by the Provincial Assembly of London , pag. 188. that we remit the Reader thither , for ●● love ●ot to transeribe . In the New Testament he owns there is no instance of Persons out of Office imposing hands . And notwithstanding all his instances , the Apostles assertion stands good , Heb. 7. 7. and without all contradiction , the less is blessed of the greater . The Authors next Essay is , to remove the weighty Objection , That none can give what himself hath not . And this he does by some Simili●udes . To touch upon one , pag. 99. A Woman ( saith he ) by giving her ●el● in Marriage , causeth the Man , to ●●o●● she giveth her self , ●● have the power of a Husband ; but no man will be so absurd ●● to say , that a Woman has formally the power of an ●●●sh●●d . A poor Return ind●●d , to so weighty an Objection ! An unmarri●d Woman has power over her self , to rule and govern her self and her Actions , as fully as the Husband has , when she is married : though a particular Church , without any Officer , has not power to ●eed , teach , govern themselves , and ad 〈…〉 Ordinances . Here ●● a plain Disparity ! Moreover , it is gro●● , ●●●u●d to affirm , that the Wife gives the Power to the Husband . Indeed , she gives her self , but it is the Institution and Command of God , that gives the Power ; and could we suppose that to be laid aside , they would be equal . To be sure , it Women once get this Notion by the end , that they give the Power to their Husbands , we should soon have them indenting , limiting and reserving in part to themselves , by a Marriage Contract , as well their Power and Authority , as their Estates . 4ly . The Author asserts , That no man ought to be ordained a Pastor , except unto a particular Church , pag. 101. Which kind of Doctrine doth indeed startle us , because it manifests the Reverend 〈◊〉 to be very u●stable in his Judgment . It is credibly reported , That at a general Convention of Ministers at Boston , May 26. 1698. ( and there are enough yet living , who knew the truth of ●t , to whom we appeal ) this Question was discussed , Whether a Minister might be ordained , though he had , as yet , no particular Church , in order to 〈◊〉 Administration of Baptism , and the gathering & settling a Church ? This , as we are told , had a more peculiar reference to Mr. Clap's Nation at Rhode Island , and it was voted and carried in the Affirmative ; and what is yet stranger , was lead on and put to the Vote by the Author himself , he being the Moderator of the Assembly . Upon this conclusion Mr. Williams was ordained in the Colledge Hall , in order to his Voyage to Barbadoes . Now it is wonderful to us , how the contrary to that which was a truth two years ago , should obtain now . Possibly the Reverend Author'● modesty won't suffer him to think the Ballance equal , or we would put the late Vote of May , 98 in the Scale against the Council of Calcedon , p 105. 5ly , We crave the Readers patience , and will offer but one Remark upon these two Chapters . In pag. 102 ▪ its said , Pastar and Flock are Relates , and therefore one cannot be without the other . It is contrary to the Rules of Reason ( as Logicians know ) that the Relate should be without its Correlate . To say , that a wandering Levite , who has no Flock , is a Pastor , is as good sence as to say , to the who has no Children is a Father , and the Man who has no Wife , is a Husband This is worn thred-bare , and answered long ago by the Assembly at London , and others , and sometimes by the Author himself . A Minister may be considered under a double Notion , as a Minister of C 〈…〉 t , or of this or that particular Church . In this latter sence they are Relate & Correlate , and no otherwise . Hence , if he leaves them , he ceases to be their Minister and they cease to be his Flock ▪ but still he may be a Minister of Christ , and they a Church of Christ . And thus in that little Book that is en●it●led , The judgment of several Divines of the Congregational way , concerning a Pastors Power occasionally to exe●t Ministerial acts in another Church , besides that which is his particular Flock ; the Reverend Author expresses himself after this manner , pag. 1. The Ministerial Power which a Pastor has received from the Lord Jesus Christ , ●● not so ●o●fined to his particular Flock , as that he shall cease to be a Minister when he shall act in the Name of the Lord else where . And a little after , I am , as to this particular , fully of the same judgment with the learned Dr. J. Owen in 〈◊〉 judicious Treatise concerning a Gospel Church , Pag. 100 , 101 where he has these words , Although we have no concer●●●us in the sig●ent of an indelible Character accompanying sacred Orders , yet we do not think the Pastoral Office is such a thing as a man must leave be●●nd him every time he goes from home ; for my own part , ● I did not think my self b●●nd to preach as a Minister authorized , in all places , and ●● all occasions when I am called thereunto , I think I should never preach more in this World. Thus Dr. Owen . We see then , that our Reverend Author and the famous Dr. Owen plainly hold , that though there be a Relation to a particular flock , yet a Minister is so au●hro●zed by Jesus Christ , that he is capable in his Name to perform Ministerial Acts in other places , and upon all occasions . And were not our Author sincerely of this Opinion , we cannot but think he would highly condemn any Minister that should be absent from his Flock four years together , upon any service whatsoever . ●ure , if he be no way capable to act as a Minister of Jesus Christ , he is all that while but as a stray Bird , idly wandering from its Nest . Yet at this time , our Author would bear the World in hand , that a Minister has no power to act as such , but to his particular Flock ▪ and therefore quotes the words of the Plat-form , chap. 9. sect . 7. He that is clearly loosed from his Office Relation to that Church whereof he was . a Minister , cannot be looked on as an Officer , nor perform any act of O 〈…〉 e in any other Church , unless he be again called unto Office. But a more eminent Assembly of Divines at London , have quoted this very Paragraph , pag 1●5 and severely , but justly answered it as a great ●bs●rdity , and contrary to sound Doctrine . The answer to the other part of the Question , Whether a Minister should be ordained only in the presence of that Church where he is ●●serve ● Will result from what has been already laid down . The presence of Christ must be supposed , when ever a person is seperated to his Ministry ; but seeing our Lord Commissions none immediately , such must be present as have Power to authorize , Commission and give the charge in his Name . When ever a Call is given , received and accepted , whether it be by Words , Message or letter , both Minister and People are conceived , as present face to face . But the Circumstances of Times , Places , Persons , Distance , &c. must determine this matter ; which as they m●● fall out , may sometimes render it both prodent , regular and necessar● , ( & then its the Voice of Providence ) for a Min 〈…〉 to be ordained on one Land , and to serve in another . Q. 14. Is the Practice of the Churches of New-England in granting Letters of Dismission or Recommendation from one Church to another , according to Scripture , and the Example of other Churches ? The Reverend Author refers to many Scriptures to prove the Affirmative , but not one of them reaches the Question , or proves ●● dismission for this end , soil to take a person off from being a Member of one Church , to be made a Member of another . The Epistles or Letters he refers to , are all Apo●ta●●cal or Ministerial ; not the Letters of one Church to another , some only excepted , which is mentioned as writ by the Brethren ; but Apol●● , on whole behalf they wrote , was not a Member of their Church ; nor do they write to those in Achaia to receive him as a Member , but rather as a Minister , or as a Christian of eminence and singular goodness . Indeed there may be a good use of Letters of Recommendation , and especially among strangers and where a Member removes from one Church to another , a mutual satisfaction may be laboured after . But we cannot but think such Letters frivilous , when in the same Town , and at two streets distance , a Person known over all the Town for an exemplary Conversation , prefers anothers Ministry . Civility will constrain such persons to acquaint then Ministers of their purposes , and the same Christian Civility obliges such a Minister to acquaint the other Pastor ( if need be ) to whose Ministry they repair , that they have carried themselves well in his Communion , and that he hopes they may prove blessings in all other . But as for the Brethren , We need not go to them , to make a second Speech , now to ask leave to with-draw , and to render an account to every impertinent Talker who thinks the man Married to him , and that his bed is broke into , or that there 's no just reason for a divorce . Moreover , some people are forever dissatisfied ; neither conveniencies of Habitation , liking the others Ministry , profiting under it , or dislike of some Customs and Practices which he would willingly be rid of the light of , can satisfy . And what must the grieved person do further in this case ? Why , truly he has done his duty , and may hear and communicate , where God and his own sober Conscience directs him . No● ought any Minister of Christ , to reject his claim to the Lords Table with him . To say no more , our Reverend Author having in a former Treatise proved that persons baptized are thereby subjects of Discipline , We think they all ought to be accountable to the Society where they are ; there persons being dismissed by the Providence of God , whether they have letters of dismission or not . Else by their principles , an ordained Minister in London , formerly of Communion with a Church in Boston , being called to Office in a particular Church , and having accepted the Pastoral Care thereof , must first send over a Pacquet to New-England for a Letter of dismission . And don't you think he would be well imployed ? Qu. 15 Is not the asserting that a Pastor may administer the Sacrament to another Church besides his own particular Church , at the a●fire of that other Church , a declension from the first principles of New-England , and of the Congregational way ? The Reverend Author Answers , No , not at all . Had the Question been , whether this be a deci●●sion from the Tru●● , we had fully joyned with him in the Answer . It being true Doctrine , that a Minister upon desire , may as well Minister to another Church , as to ●●● own : both being Churches of Christ , and he a Minister of Christ , there being but one Faith , one Body , one Baptism . But had we been of the Authors Principles , which he pleads for in this Book , we must have answered , that ●● is a great A●●stacy and Declension . And when the Reverend Author first put out this in the year 1693 ▪ some of the old men and women did express themselves after this Rate — That it was not thus from the beginning , and that he had pull'a such a Pin out of the good ole ●ay , as would in a little w●ile bring the whole abri●k to the ground . No● was this complaint without reason , for if particular Churches are specifically distin●● ▪ if Pastor and Flock are Relate ●●● Correlate , that give being to one another , as Husband and Wife ; if the ●ssence of a Ministers Call lie in a mu●●●l Election between the Church and him ; then we can by no means allow the Authors assertion , That a Pastor may administer , &c T●● in vain to plead , I were may be at well commu●●●● of Officers , as of Members ; for these Principles will not allow so much as a Member of one Church to communicate in another . Hence the ac●●e Mr. Hooker ( ●● the Author 〈…〉 iles him ) could never get over that difficulty , but looks upon it as unwarrantable or private Members to communicate in another Church . Neither can Dr. Oven or Dr. Goodwin ( whom he 〈…〉 pillars among the Congregational ) though they twist and squeze and strain hard , maintain this 〈…〉 on these Principles , no● satisfy a ●ational mind about it . Tho' they plead they are transient Members for that time , yet this no more excuses it , than if an A●ult●●●s ●o hi 〈…〉 ●●● shame and folly , should excuse it by saying — She made the Man her Husband for that turn and act . For if we run it to the narrow , the Administrator must deliver the Sacrament as an Officer , or not , there is no Medium : If as an Officer , then he his Power from Christ , as such , to administer the Sacrament where he i● occasionally called . And then down go the Authors Principles at once , of the Churches being specifically distinct , of the Essence of the Ministerial Call lying in the mutual Election of Minister and People , of Pastor and Flock being Relate and Correlate , so as to give being to each other , as such ; or else on the other hand , it must be said , That a Minister , when he administers to another Flock , acts not as an Officer , but as a private Man ; and this lays all in common , and destroys the Ministerial Power at once . And to attempt to reconcile it with our New-England Platform , will be but ( as Mr. Hooker has the expression ) to make the Plat-form to speak Daggers and Contradictions . Neither can it be pretended , that the generality of the Ministers in New-England were of that mind in the beginning . In the Answer of the Elders of several Churches in N. England , unto the Nine Positions , it is said , Position 8. If you mean by a Ministerial Act , such an act of Authority and Power in dispensing Gods Ordinances , as a Minister does perform to the Church whereunto ●● is called to be a Minister , then we a●ny that he can perform any Ministerial Act to any other Church but his own , because his Office extends no farther t●a● his Call. And now we appeal to the Reader , if the Reverend Author must not either Renounce these his darling Principles , or own himself guilty of that Declension from the first Principles of New-England , which in another he would call Apostacy . And indeed , we know well enough , that a few years ago , no young man could have escaped that odious Brand , that durst have printed such a Principle . But all is well that we do our selves , and every other Congregational Tenet had been laudably rejected , had some men the doing of it . Let another presume , he is a Back●●i●er , an Apos●a●● , ●●●u● , ●a●b , Contemptuous , and Despis●● of his Fathers . The same thing ▪ ( to a●ude to the Authors words , pag. 71. ) in one man , is a modest inoffensive Dissent in another , a daring Contradiction to Synods . Qu. 16. Is it a Duty for Christians in their Prayers , to make use of the words of that which is commonly called the Lords Prayer ? Though the Authors answer hereto be very large , yet we shall say very little to it , or against it . He yeilds and allows , it may be lawfully used , as well as other Prayers and Passages in Scripture , in our Addresses to Heaven : That it has been used in antient Times , he does not deny ; and we know that it is most frequently used by the most famous Divines in these days . And he gives us an instance of Mr. Je● . Burroughs , which we thank him for , having never heard it before . That it has been abused to Superstition , and the Tryal of Witch-craft , we also know ; but the abuse of a thing does not take away the proper lawful Use of it ; nor is it fit so far to gratifie those that made it a Charm , as ●o●●h●t reason to ●●●rain to use it . But verily the Author would have us more superstitious that we are willing to be ; for he quarrels ●● the varying but of one word or clause in this excellent form of Prayer : If instead of Debts or Sin● we say Trespasses , it is a fearful Crime . For why ? says the Author , It smells rank of the Li●●●gy , its le●●n'd ●●● of the Common-Prayer Book . He might have said rather , That we learn first to read ●● so in our Horn-Books , and are mis-taught from our infancy . But truly , we account this difference of Translation a petty thing . And if instead of Hallowed , the Author would say sanctified ; and instead of daily Bread , he would chuse to say convenient Food , we should not full foul on him . No , says the Author , pag. 123. why then you give up the Cause . In truth , then the Author has no adversary in the world , where the Lords Prayer is used in any Language beside the Greek ; for who bind● himself to a Translation , as to an Original ? but the Author's meaning is apparent , he would insinuate into the heedless Reader , That whoever useth the Lords Prayer , ought not to vary one word from the words Christ gave it in ▪ and truly , then they must , like Barbarians to the People , tone it in the Original Greek . We would offer here one Query more . Does the Author mean , in stating this Question , to enquire whether it be an indispensible Duty to use the words of the Lords Prayer in all our Addresses to God , so that as often as we bow our Knees in Prayer , we should think it necessary to repeat this Form ? Here again he would have no Adversary under Heaven Yet the Question may be strained to all this , and he has taken no care to bound it . But to detain the Reader no longer , 't is enough and enough that the Reverend Author justifies it as lawful ; for then doubtless it may be sometimes proper : for that would be a strange thing indeed , that is always lawful , and never ( in no Circumstances , not in that of Mr. Burroughs himself I can be proper . But since 't is lawful , I' 〈…〉 or once give my sence when it is proper , s●il , When People have been long taught and made to believe , that the Use of it is Superstitious , To place a great part of their Religion in the dislike of it ; To think this a principal ground of Non-conformity , and a distinguishing Badge of a Dissenter ; or , that it is too vain a Formality to comport w●●h the Spirit of Devotion . Then , if ever , it is high time to correct such a Prejudice , and to show the People it may be used without Superstition , and that neither the Spirit of Religion , nor yet the Arguments for Episcopacy , Presbyteria●●sm nor Independency are any ways concerned in this affair . Here we would crave the Readers patience for one Quotation , and the rather inasmuch as the N●●● of Mr. Philip Henry may be of more Authority with the Reverend Author , than many arguments , when barely offered by us . It is said in the 97th page of Mr Henry's Life , That he looked upon the Lords Prayer to be not only a Directory or Pattern for Prayer , but ( according to the advice of the Assembly of Divines ) proper to be used as a Form. He thought it was an Error on the o●e hand to lay so much stress upon it , as some do , who think no solemn Prayer accepted , nor ●o solemn administration of Worship compleat without it ; and he thought it an Error on the other hand not to use it at all , since it is a Prayer , a compendious comprehensive Prayer , and may be of Use to us , at least , as other Scripture Prayers ; but he thought it a much greater Error to be angry at those who do use i● , to judge and censure them , and for no other reason to conceive Prejudices against them and their Ministry . A great strait ( faith he ) poor Ministers are in , when some will not hear them , if they do not use the Lords Prayer , and others will no● hear them it they do ! What is to be done in this case ? We must walk according to the light we have , and approve our selves to God , either in using or no● using it , and wait for the day when God will mend the matter , which I 〈…〉 he will do in his own due time . — — Thus spake the holy and heavenly Mr Henry , and with ●i● the late Reverend Dr. Bates , who writ●s the Dedication of his Life , and as h● hath fully expressed our sense in this matter , so we would wait and pray with him , for the Happy Day . Well , but if the case be so circumstanced , says the Author , pag. 135. that it cannot be done without Offence , it is rather a Duty , and will be most pleasing to Christ , not to use it as a ●orm . But then such Offence must be manifested , and appear to be conscientious . This confirms what I before suggested , That there is a riv●●ed Prejudice people are educated in against this Practice , that they start at it as a thing in it self sinful and scandalous . But to show we are in Charity with the Author , and all those who omit the Use of this excellent Form of Prayer , we shall close this Chapter in the words of St. Paul , Rom 14. 3. Let u●● h●m that ca●●th de●p●●● him that ●a●e●● no● ; and let not ●●m that ●a●eth no● , judge him that ●ateth . Qu. 17. May the Churches under the Presbyterian and Congregational Discipline maintain Communion with one another , notwithstanding their different Sentiments , as 〈◊〉 Church Government ? The Author answers , That they may and ought to do so . And truly , had this Book contained only this one Question and Answer , it might have turned to more Edification than the whole . He tells us , There was greater Differences than these in the Apostolick Churches 〈◊〉 thinks then we of latter Days may the better ●ear with one another ▪ the effusions of the Spirit of Peace and Truth being since much restrained The Reverend Author observes further , That both Perswasions have been Confessors and fellow Sufferers , and he thinks this should endear them . We think so too , but to our sorrow , some of us have heard ho●● it hath been in England , & now , alas ! we see it verified in our ●uthor ▪ that when their own Persecution ceases , they carry on the Tragedy on others ▪ We do not wonder at what the Author saith Mr. Baxter told him , That if all Independants were like N. England Independants , he would soon be 〈◊〉 ▪ For we can easily guess what deceived that excellent Person ( whose Moderation s●ited his Pie●y & Devotion ) into so endearing an Expression . He form'd his Idea of New-England Independency by the Authors Plausible carriage when in London , which though for that time might be very sincere , yet either the difference of the Climate , or that his Dominion here is more rightful , quite a●e●● him . We are assured , the Author is esteemed more a Presbyterian than a Cengregational Man , by scores of his Friends in London ▪ 〈◊〉 is lov'd and reverenced for a moderate Spirit , a peaceable Disposition , and a Temper so widely different from his late Brothers in Lo●don . He was most conversant at the Presbyterian Board , and of●●●est in their Pulpits , and professed the greatest Reverence for their Persons . And no wonder Mr. Baxter should be so e●amoured of such Independents ! Did our Reverend Author appear the same here , we should be his 〈◊〉 P●oselites too . But we are loath to say how he forfeits that venerable Character , which might have consecrated his Name to Posterity , more than his Learning , or other honorary Titles can . To confirm what we have here said , the Author deelar●s how Instrumental he was to promote the Union betwixt the United Brethren in London . We only wish he would be as cordial and active to keep it , as he was to make it ; or else the World will think his Zeal 〈◊〉 it was , because far enough from home , where Interest was not touched . As for the three Articles of Vnion , which the Author transcribes , we would endeavour to maintain them , and all the rest . But there are some Cases and Times , when Ministers of some particular Opinions will not bear to be consulted with . Or if there is a necessity of disobeying their Opinions for once , it is best not to consult them , meerly to do their Counsels the more Despight . We think this modest and ingenuous . Nor can it be reasonably expected that a Congregational Classis ( if such there be ) should be consulted in those things which are properly Presbyterian , their Prejudice , in favour of their own Opinions , rendering them unfit to advise with in that matter ; and the more serious the application to such is , the more severely would they think themselves ●antered . As to his Query , Whether the embodying into a Church state be not a mighty matter ? We must needs profess , we want some better account what that is , before we can so esteem it . We read nothing in Scripture of gathering a Church , or embodying it into a Church state , unless it refers to the converting and baptizing of Heathen , and then administring the Ordinances of the Gospel in a stated way to competent Numbers , whose convenience will permit them to meet constantly at one and the same place of Worship . All further Solemnity in this matter is ex abundant● , and therefore the matter seems not so very weighty . VVE now humbly take leave of the Author and his Book , wishing there had been no occasion for these Reflections , and accounting it a sufficient Apology , that we have been contending for what we apprehend to be the Truth ; and it became the more necessary to vindicate it , lest it should suffer more by the Reverend Author's Name and Authority , than by 〈◊〉 arguments . So far is the Presidency of the Colledge from being a Protection , that it is the lo 〈…〉 est argument in on 〈◊〉 for a zealous us Con●u●●tion . Not can the Reverend Author much resent this our search after Truth , if he remembers the liberty that the humble and ho●y Mr. Baxter once Pray'd him to take , in 〈◊〉 and re●uting any Errors he should find in his Books , or should the Author 〈◊〉 angry , it would but cause us to suspect ( what a bundance of people have 〈◊〉 obstinately believed ) that the contest for his part is more for Lordship and Dominion than for Truth . 'T is possible some good people may blame us , for carrying on the C●●t●●tion , wherein , as one saith , though there be but little Truth gain'd yet a great deal of Charity may be 〈◊〉 . We hope the best , as to both these ; but however it happens , we are willing to promise the Reader , that scarce any thing shall provoke us further to concern our selves in these disputes : no , not so much as to make any Return , should a Thousand pretended Answers be published ; for we love not to be contentions , b 〈…〉 s the Reverend Author is wont to say in like cases ▪ it suffices that 〈◊〉 have born our Testimony . And here we must do justice also to those who have first openly asserted and practised those Truths among us . They deserve well of the Churches of Christ , and though at present decryed as Apostates and back●●●ders , the generations to come will bless them . So a score of years or more p●st , the Enlargement of Baptism was cryed out upon , as a woful declension ▪ but the present generation feels the happy effects of it , and rising up at the Reformers names , do call them blessed . To concluds all it is the Answerers sincere desire and design , if it be possible , and as far as in them is , to live peaceably with all men . 〈…〉 is then prayer , that God would grant peace and Truth in our dayes , rebuke the evil Spirit of pride , uncharitableness , co 〈…〉 on and contempt of others , and pour forth on us all his Spirit of Grace and Love. And now the God of Peace , that brought again from the Dead our Lord Jesus Christ , the great Shepherd of the Sheep , through the Blood of the everlasting Covenant , make us perfect in every good Work to do his Will , working in us that which is well pleasing in his sight , through Jesus Christ , to whom be glory forever . Amen . Postscript . IT is strange that our Review should be assaulted before it can be P 〈…〉 . Yet so it happens in a late Pam 〈…〉 , en 〈…〉 , A ●o●t Answer to the Do 〈…〉 o instituted Churches . Let them can it soft who have lo●● their feeling ! For th● ' t is confessed there are no very ●●rd Arguments , yet Jealousie , Censures , Contempts there are , which greate hard enough . In pag. 12. the Reverend Authors seem jealous of some Injurious Treatment in this our Review ; whereas their soft Treatise is in 〈…〉 ▪ us not to us only , but to whole Synods and Nations of Presbyterians . They dare to say , that their Gospel Order , which is here answered , is vindicated in every point , from the Concessions of the Reforming Presbyterians beyond Sea ; and that not only from particular Authors of great fame among them , but W 〈…〉 le Synods , Whole Nations of them . O injury to Truth and Modesty ! Tell us ( Sirs ) we beseech you , what Synods , what Nations of Presbyterians do oppose reading Gods Word in publick Worship , ●o● the using the Lords Prayer , that excellent , perfect and most comprehensive Fo●m ? That limit the Right of chusing a Minister to a particular Church Covenant ? That say , the ●ssence of the Ministerial Ca● co●fist● not in the imposition of the hands of the Presbytery , or that the Brethren may lay on hands , or that there shou'd be no Ordination but to a particular Church . You reasonably add , Optimus ille qui ●urre novit injurias plarim●● — , Though the best men in the world 〈◊〉 hard bear all this Could 〈◊〉 Authors perswade us to believe , this we would obey him , and name our selv●● no more Presbyterians . We appeal ( in our Authors words , pag. 16. ) To all the Presbyterians in the World , say , O ye Men of God , and of Order ! What Reparation can our Authors make you for this Wrong ▪ in making your Name the Vmbrage of these their Errors . We are , moreover oblig'd to the Reverend Authors for their Ci 〈…〉 ies , pag 7 ' 〈◊〉 a g●●ding , unstudyed , unstable Generation , full of ●●vity , bleating ▪ and lo●i●g An●i●a●● , Raw ●out● , pag. 15. They me 〈…〉 ( fo●●o●th ! ) this contempt for calling themselves Presbyterians ▪ but even let the Calf be known by its bleating . Too late that 〈◊〉 came to mind , pag. 50. Being reviled , we bless , being defamed , we entreat . In pag. 14. the Authors complain ▪ That we pay not due Deference to the Classis of the Pastors in the Vicinity , and yet they assume not any Power of a Classis , any further than to forbid us to be Presbyterians . We highly approve of many particulars in pag. 17. That the Proponant for the Lords ●able be examined of his Baptismal Vow , his sense of spiritual Wants ▪ Sinfulness and Wretchedness , his Hope , Faith , Experiences , Resolutions through the Grace of God But then come two words , Covenant and Brethren , in Capital Letters , as a Lyon Rampant , insulting a couching Classis , a bleeding Presbytery . But if we look over the Answer to the last Question in The young Mans claim to the Sacrament ( whereto these words in our Author do refer ) we shall find , that the Proponant promises nothing more than to be subject to the censures administred unto him by the Poster of the Church and its Officers . So , Sirs , the Brethren are dropt , wittingly , no doubt , by the quick-sighted Author . And indeed , for the Brethren to be named in the Question , and neglected in the Answer , is a fair Negative on them . The Proponant promises no subjection to them , and the Reverend Authors sagacity is wonderful in that Answer , for the Question takes the Congregational Brother , the Answer satisfies a Presbyterian . It seems also that the Adversaries of this Gospel Order multiply a pace ; for in pag. 22. They are meerly a few gentlemen at Boston and New-York . But by that time you come to pag 30. our Brethren of Connecticut exceed all the rest of New-England in proclaiming their Indisposition to it . And by the following Exclamation , O Tim●● and Manners ! ●t seems that Cicero must be called from the Grave to i●●●●gh against these Raw-Yo●●●s , th●se licentious Ca●al●es . We can't pass over pag. 61. without a Remark . The Apostacy of our Young Men ( say our Authors ▪ ) is great before the Lord. The Apostacy ( it seem ) respects the Examination and Qualifications of Comm●●●●●nts at the Lords Table , which is suggested to be in d●●●ying the Necessity of mens coming to the holy Table with Repentance , Fait and Love. God forbid we should so accuse , or not vindicate our Brethren . This is to a●ledg a Crime abhorred by the Generation 〈◊〉 . — Well , but they zealously disperse unhappy Pamphlets . If the Doctrine of Instituted Churches ●● referred to , that is but one ; and what other the Reverend Authors mean , we cannot guess ; and that Tr●ati●● in most parts is a Mine of Gold , and a rich Treasury of right Thoughts . The next Surmize is a meer Defamation , That Go●ge , Roberts , Dolittles Books must be h●●s'd back to Europe again . A pre●●● device to praise the Gentlemen beyond Sea , and at the same time condemn those here that conform to their constant Practice . Had the Attestation in pag 63 ▪ been only to recommend the following Treatise of the excellent Mr. Quick's to our perusal and Practice , no Minister in New England , that c●●●s himself a Presbyterian , but would chearfully subscribe it ; but we believe few would confederate in its Reflections on the Reverend Mr. S●●ddard , or favour that worse Report , That under the Vmbrage of the Name of Presbyterians some would bring in Innovations , ruinous to our Churches , and contrary to the Doctrine and Spirit of Mr. Quick'● Book . And to add one Guess h●re , It s twenty to one if any one of the Attestators knew what a soft Answer was to be prefixed to their Attestation . For this would not be the first time that men have subscribed a Paper , which had they known would have been placed to such advantage , as to the less discerning R●ad●● to seem an Attestation to the whole Book , they would have refused their Names with Indignation . What remains is to Recommend that Treatise , The Young Man's Claim to the Sacrament , to the serious and diligent perusal of our Youth . A Performance , for its kind , very perfect , and highly profitable . But the Reverend Author and his Treatise are both abused in this impression ▪ Mr. Quick is here betrayed in a specious show of Reverence and Friendship ; while his Name is used to Combate those very men and their Principles , which he most values and honours . And were Mr. Quick here among us , and should continue what is his stated Practice in the Worship of God , he would be decryed among the Presbyterian Formalists , in pag 9. as much as he is now magnified for a Reformer . For our parts , we do sincerely believe him to be our Exemplary Reformer , and wi●h our Reverend Authors would credit their Character of him , and follow his Example ; for he is conscientious to have the Scriptures reed ●very Sabbath in the publick Worship of God , together with 〈◊〉 Ten Commandments , and he as often uses the Lords Prayer . Nay 〈…〉 few years since this Reverend and holy Person took leave of a reverend Minister , returning to us , in words to this effect , Sir , 〈◊〉 our Reverend Brethren in New-England that they must come over to the Presbyteri●● ▪ Government , if they would perserve their Churches . And would it not now provoke a just Indignation to see People so deluded , and a Gentlemans Name ( so dear and venerable as it is with us ) advanced against his own Principles ? And will it not turn unto us for a Testimony to use the Authors words ▪ pag 5●● ) not only that we have endeavoured to vindicate the Truth , but also to do 〈◊〉 ▪ Quick justice ? FINIS .