The Romish chaine. By Edmund Gurnay, parson of Harpley Gurnay, Edmund, d. 1648. 1624 Approx. 88 KB of XML-encoded text transcribed from 56 1-bit group-IV TIFF page images. Text Creation Partnership, Ann Arbor, MI ; Oxford (UK) : 2009-03 (EEBO-TCP Phase 1). A02400 STC 12530 ESTC S121205 99856390 99856390 21933 This keyboarded and encoded edition of the work described above is co-owned by the institutions providing financial support to the Early English Books Online Text Creation Partnership. This Phase I text is available for reuse, according to the terms of Creative Commons 0 1.0 Universal . The text can be copied, modified, distributed and performed, even for commercial purposes, all without asking permission. Early English books online. (EEBO-TCP ; phase 1, no. A02400) Transcribed from: (Early English Books Online ; image set 21933) Images scanned from microfilm: (Early English books, 1475-1640 ; 1069:10) The Romish chaine. By Edmund Gurnay, parson of Harpley Gurnay, Edmund, d. 1648. [8], 101, [1] p. Printed by A[ugustine] M[athewes] for Mathew Law, and are to bee sold at his shop, neere Saint Austins Gate, London : 1624. Printer's name from STC. The first leaf is blank. Variant: with an added leaf, inserted after A4, containing a dedication to Sir Roger Townsend. Reproduction of the original in the Henry E. Huntington Library and Art Gallery. Created by converting TCP files to TEI P5 using tcp2tei.xsl, TEI @ Oxford. Re-processed by University of Nebraska-Lincoln and Northwestern, with changes to facilitate morpho-syntactic tagging. Gap elements of known extent have been transformed into placeholder characters or elements to simplify the filling in of gaps by user contributors. 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Copies of the texts have been issued variously as SGML (TCP schema; ASCII text with mnemonic sdata character entities); displayable XML (TCP schema; characters represented either as UTF-8 Unicode or text strings within braces); or lossless XML (TEI P5, characters represented either as UTF-8 Unicode or TEI g elements). Keying and markup guidelines are available at the Text Creation Partnership web site . eng Catholic Church -- Controversial literature -- Early works to 1800. Popes -- Primacy -- Early works to 1800. 2007-11 TCP Assigned for keying and markup 2008-01 SPi Global Keyed and coded from ProQuest page images 2008-02 Emma (Leeson) Huber Sampled and proofread 2008-02 Emma (Leeson) Huber Text and markup reviewed and edited 2008-09 pfs Batch review (QC) and XML conversion THE ROMISH CHAINE . BY EDMVND GVRNAY , Parson , of Harpley . LONDON , Printed by A. M. for Mathew Law , and are to bee sold at his Shop , neere Saint Austins Gate . 1624. TO THE RIGHT Honourable , the Lords , Knights , Burgesses , and what other Suffragans , in the high Court of Parliament . HIS Maiestie ( Right Honorable , if it please you to remember ) in his Epistle before the Remonstrance , does greatly magnifie the third Estate of France , for preferring an Article in their Parliament , against their Kings obnoxiousnesse vnto Papall Deposition : In the defence of whose iudgment therein , his Pen hath flourished out such a Defence of Kings Rights , as shall neuer wither vnto the end of the world . Now howsoeuer the Parliaments of England were neuer inferiour vnto those of France for zeale and vigilancie , toward the maintenance of their Kings Supremacie ; yet may it please you to suffer the words of exhortation , to perseuer in such vigilancy and fidelitie , toward the Lord and his immediate Deputie : And as oft as you shall heare any of the night birds , croaking for the Roman forraigner , so often to double your industry , toward the treading out those vermin and damming vp their puddles . And it may be , your Iudgment will take some incitation thereunto , if you shall at some vacant time vouchsafe a perusall of this treatise : the maine argument for the Romish Title consisting of diuers propositions linked together , whereof not one is of force ; as now God-willing ( my leaue first taken of your Honours ) I shall apply my selfe to declare . DEDICATED vnto Sir ROGER TOVVNSEND ; Knight-Baronet : FOr Vertue , sound Religion , Linage , Titles , Moderation , Chastity , Manhood , Bountie , Industry , and gouerning so large an estate , in so greene and vncuppled yeares ; without peere . THE ROMISH CHAINE , AS farr forth as vniuersall Supremacy is supposed to descend vnto him which now possesseth the Roman Papacy , by vertue of this Chayne-argument . 1 The Church militant must alwaies haue some praticular person for the vniuersall Head thereof . 2 The Apostle Saint Peter in his time , was that particular person . 3 Only the Successors of Peter must be the like in their times . 4 Onely the Bishops of Rome were the Successors of Peter in their times . 5 Only the Popes of Rome were the Successors of those Bishops in their times . 6 Only hee which now possesseth the Roman Papacy , is the Successor of those Popes . Ergo , Hee and only Hee , which now possesseth the Romane Papacy , is at this day vniuersal Head of the Church militant . So farre forth wee propound vnto the world , this answer following . Concerning therefore the first linke of the chaine , ( and so to the rest in order ) our protestation against it is this : that neither does any Scripture imply , nor strength of argument inforce , nor any writer for the space of fiue thousand yeeres from the beginning of the world , determine , that the Church militant must allwayes haue some one particular person for the vniuersall Head thereof . For first concerning Scriptures ; howsoeuer some particular text doe speake wonderous eminently of some particular persons ; as amongst others these following ; 1 I will giue thee the heathen for thine inheritance &c. 2 He shall iudge amongst the nations &c. 3 Kings shall be thy noursing fathers &c. 4 I will make thy name to be remembred &c. 5 Lord what is man that thou art so mindfull of him &c. 6 He shall build my City &c. 7 He will giue his Angels charge ouer thee &c. 6 Thou shalt tread vpon the Lyon and the Dragon &c. and the like we answer : that from the time that any Scripture was first giuen , vntill the last period thereof , and for fiue hundred yeeres after , ( not to say a thousand ) these kinde of texts were neuer expounded , but eyther of the Messias himselfe ( as the two first quoted : ) or of his Spouse the Church ( as the third and fourth : ) or of the condition of mankinde in generall ( as the fift and sixt : ) or of euery godly man in particular ( as the two last : ) but neuer of the pretended vniuersall Head. Secondly concerning strength of argument , that neither it can soe inforce , we proue ; Because there cannot be imagined any benefit ( vse and benefit carrying all the moment in morall necessities ) which may redownd to the church by meanes of such vniuersall Head : but such as may as well and farr better redownd there vnto , by the meanes of speciall and seuerall heads according as the seuerall Continents , languages , and quarters of the earth , by the Diuine prouidence are distributed . For though their may seeme to ensue great hope of vniuersall Peace and Vnity , whē all the strings of gouernment shall thus be setled in one onely hand ; yet such peace as is atteined onely by the extinguishment of plurall excellency , will proue little better then Anarchy , or Pedancy , and such as ignorant persons , (*) yea the very brute beasts are capable of . For they hauing all their wit confined vnto one onely head ( the head of their keeper , ) doe by that meanes the more quietly goe in and out vnto ther pasture : But as it is not good for man to bee alone , so neyther is it good for the Church to be so all-one as that one parson Cow-heard-like , may rule in all alone : for that beside peace and vnity there is requisite also difference and variety vnto the perfection of Christian Society : the very light of nature teaching vs that too much vnity dissolues a city ( as vnisons drowne harmony ) and makes it degenerate into a family ; much more , such a degree of vnity as shall reduce all Cityes as it were into one family vnder one pater patriae , So farr therefore may it be that this vniuersall Supremacy should produce any desirable peace and vnity , as that more lykely an vniuersall dullnesse and Lethargy would insue thereof ; and that as well in the pretended head himselfe , as in the body . For what condition of life can bee imagined , more tedious , vncouth and vncomfortable , then that which this vniuersall head must continually abide in , when there shall not be found vpon earth any peere or consort , or helper for him like himselfe ! whereas the very Deitie , which notwithstanding so infinitly excells for Simplicity and vnity does entertaine plurality and Society ; witnesse the Trinity : as also the Kings vpon earth are not without their brother-kings , ( some elder and some younger ) to consort with-all . Yea besides this desolation and solitude , what incumbrancy and seruitude will ensue therevpon . For first concerning the head himselfe ; how intollerable his burthen must neede be , who can imagine ? For if that renowned Moses was so tyred with the leading of only one people , and they of his owne language , into the earthly Canaan : how must he looke to be tyred , vexed , and perplexed which shall haue the leading of all people , nations and languages into the heauenly Canaan ? he being composed of flesh and bloud ( noe doubt ) as much as Moses was , and as much subiect vnto mortalitie , casualty , necessity , infirmity and Sinne ; yea incomparably coming short of Moses ( vnlesse it be in his owne particular conceit ) for all kind of graces and diuine assistance : It being expreslly said , that The Lord knew Moses face to face ; that his like was neuer knowne , that he was the friend of God ; that after sixe score yeeres his eye was neuer dim , nor his naturall force abated ; Moses also hauing his brother Aaron to share with him in the maine businesse , and the rulers ouer thousands , hundreds , and fifties , to saue him the labour of inferiour causes ; The Lord also most miraculusly , both raining dayly vnto the people a bread from heauen , and preseruing their clothing from waxing ould , therein sauing him the care for their temporal necessaryes : & yet not withstanding so groned Moses vnder his burthen as that somtime he brake forth into this wish , that God would rather kill him then continue him in such misery . And as for the bondage which the Body of the Church must likewise vndergoe , by meanes of this vniuersall Supreame , who can vtter it ? For the members of the Church being dispersed ouer the face of the whole earth ; some of them must of necessity be as farre in situation from their head as the very Antipodes ; and so by that meanes shall haue no principles of Faith , no determinations of controuersies , and ( in efect ) no executions of Iustice , but such as must bee appealeable , ane suspendable from , vntill a person dwelling in the furthest parts of the world be made acquainted therewith ▪ and shal haue ratified the same . Yea , ( yet further ) how scandalous must these courses needes be in the eyes of Iewes , and those which are without ; and what a stumbling block in their way ? for when the Iew shall read in his ( and our ) Prophets , that vnder the new couenant men shall so abound with knowledge as that they shall not need ( in comparison ) to goe to their next neighbour for it , it shall bee so written in their hearts : will hee euer be brought to beleeue , that the Gospell which the Christians imbrace can be that new couenant ; or that our Christ can bee that Messias , vnder whome knowledge is vniuersally confined ( at least for certainty and infallibilitie ) vnto the breast of only one particular person ? Or can he iustly be argued of obstinacie , if hee resolues rather still to continue vnder Moses Law , which neuer inioyned him to goe farther then the bounds of Canaan , ( which for quantitie exceeded not ours of England ) for any kinde of knowledges , sentences , resolutions , appeales , or determinations whatsoeuer ? And as for the Infidells which are wholy without ; can it bee marueiled if they likewise resolue , rather still to worship the Sunne and Moone in the Firmament , which once a day doe supervise them , then this onely Sonne of God ; if He hath but one immediate vessell of his grace for all his followers to draw at , and that vnder the locke and key of only one particular person , and he confined vnto one particular Angle of the earth ? yea , what course can be imagined , more apt to inforce and disperse contagion , Heresie , & Apostacie , through the whol body of the Church , when the poluting , or peruerting of only one particular person , shall be the corrupting and infecting of the vniuersall head thereof ? yea , finally what temptations or prouocations more forcible toward the erecting of a second Babell ; when all the world shall bee brought to obey onely one man , and consequently to learne onely one Language ( perhaps the Latine ) which God himselfe hath branded for the maine cause of attempting the building of the first Babell ? These kind of dangers , difficulties , scandalls , bondages , & abasements considered , and put in the ballance against all imaginable conueniences or benefits , which may redound vnto the Church , by meanes of this vniuersall Head ; if they shall ouerpoyze : we may thervpon cōclude , that no strength of argument can inforce the accepting thereof . Finally , whereas we thirdly protested , that no writer ( of what kinde soeuer ) for the first fiue thousand yeeres ( ab initio mundi ; ) did euer maintaine the necessitie of this vniuersall Head ; wee take , that to be sufficiently proued vntill instance be made to the contrary ▪ and that no kind of authour of reckoning whatsoeuer , did at any time so determine ; this alone may bee proofe sufficient . For that all the possible knowledge which writers can haue , being either from Scripture or from argument ( that which comes by reuelatiō being Scripture it self if ( as we haue proued ) neither of these two originall lights acknowledg it , what good writer can affirme it ? much lesse maintaine it for a principle of the faith ? especially considering how all the principles of the faith are so euident , as partly both these lights acknowledge them , witnesse the decalogue : and partly one of these lights ( namely Scripture ) does so abundantly acknowledge them , as that euer since the Apostles time , they haue beene agreed vpon , witnes the Articles of faith . How then shall those passe for tolerable writers , which will avouch , not onely for a truth , but also for a principle , that , which neither of these lights giue any lustre vnto ? yea and for such a principle , as rather should giue light vnto all other principles , then neede to borow light of any whatsoeuer . For it erecting a Head for euery soule vpon paine of damnation to looke vp vnto , and depend vpon ; what lesse degree of light can be requisite vnto it then that which may make it cleere enough euen for runners to read it , and the most weake sighted to find it euen as readily as sucklings find the pappe : whereas on the contrary it is not only destitute of such immediate , instinctiue and noone shine light , but also is as vtterly voyd and vncapable of light as darknesse it selfe . Iudge then reader of what validity the first linke of the chayne is ; which if it cannot hould ; the conclusion must of necessary fall to the ground : this being the condition of Soriticall and Chaine ▪ arguments that if but one of the propositions faile the conclusion cannot follow . So , as were this first proposition granted them , yet could it also be nothing for their purpose , vnlesse euery one following be made good , especially the next , which is this : The Apostle Peter in his time was this vniuersall Head. Against which position , our demonstration shall be this : The Kings and Gouernors which liued in the time of Peter , had more authoritie ouer their Christians which liued in their dominions , then Peter had : Peter therefore was not vniuersally the Christians Head. That those Kings and Gouernors had such authority more then Peter had ; wee proue : because they stood more deepely charged from God , to improoue those Christians vnto the glory of God then Peter did . For the only end why God giues authoritie vnto men ouer one another , being this ; that Mankinde may bee the more fully improued vnto his glory ; hee by that meanes hauing the honour , not onely of particular persons , but also of Societies , Families , Cities , Countreys and Kingdomes , it must of necessitie follow , that such as are more deepely charged to improoue a companie vnto Gods glory , must also haue the greater power and authoritie ouer that company which they so stand charged with . Now that those Kings were more deeply charged so to improue those Christians then Peter was , we thus proue ; by they had greater meanes so to doe : euery mans charge being answerable vnto his meanes , vnto whom much is giuen ( as our Sauiour tels vs ) there being much of him to bee required ; and , the more mighty ( as Salomon addes ) being to expect the sorer triall . Now that the meanes of these kings were greater then the meanes of Peter , we thus finally declare : first because it was in their power to protect those their Christian Subiects from persecutions , & so to open a doore vnto their preaching ; whereas Peter was not able so much as to protect himselfe noe not to saue his owne shoulders from the whipp . Secondly for that it was also in there powers to indow those their Christians with priviledges and Iurisdictions , whereby such as were otherwise vntractable vnto the gospell might by the meanes of such temporal hopes and feares ( which the carnall minded are onely sensible of ) be won or prepared therevnto . Thirdly , and principally , because rhey had at their dispose and command ( though only in the Lord wee grant , and no otherwise could Peter or any mortall man haue at command ) the gifts , abilities , and mysteries of those their Christian Subiects ; the Lord expresly charging euery soule ( amongst them ) to bee subiect vnto the higher powers ; and ( euen out of Peters owne mouth ) that they should submit themselues vnto euery ordinance of man , whether vnto the King as the Supreame , &c. So as though those Kings were not in their owne persons indewed with such gifts and graces as were necessary vnto Christian gouernment , at least not so abundantly indued as Peter ; yet as long as they had the dispose , and authoritie ouer such persons as were so indued ; it was as well in effect as if they had been actually so indued themselues ; and of the two , the better by the Phylosophers rule , who iudged mans condition in being borne naked , to be therein rather better then worse then the Beasts ; for that man might by that meanes turne his ( naked ) hand into a Speare , a Spade , a Sword , a Scepter , a Staffe , a Pen , or what hee list ; and shift his garments when he list : whereas the beast hath no shift but must alwayes sleepe in his cloathes and shooes , and with his weapons about him of necessity . The meanes therefore which those Kings had for the improouing of those Christians vnto the propagation ( yea plantation ) of the Gospel , must be acknowledged to bee farre greater then the meanes of Peter , and so consequently there charge to be greater . For though it is easily granted that those Heathen Kings did little regard or feele any such charge ▪ but rather abused and hated the meanes thereof ; yet is not that materiall ; our question being , not what there feeling or practice was , but what their duty and charge was : which if it was greater then Peters , then also by the proportion of common Iustice , their authoritie also must bee greater . And so finally if their Authoritie ouer those Christians was greater then Peters ; Peter could not be their Head ( and so not vniuersally the Christians Head ) vnlesse it should be supposed , either that Peter was a subordinate head ( which is indeede no head but a subiect ) or that those Christians were vnder two seuerall and vndependant heads , which both the law of Nature , and also the law of Grace abhors : it being as well a prouerbe as a text , that no man canserue two Masters . For whereas it vse to bee pleaded that though those Kings had a Soueraignty ouer those Christians in Temporall Affaires , yet might Peter haue it in matters Spirituall : Such distinction does deale no better with the Subiect , then that * false Mother did , which was content that the Infant should bee diuided : the thus diuiding Soueraignetie being not only a cleauing of the Head ▪ but also a renting of the subiect in twaine . For admitte that hee which hath Supremacy in Spiritualls , should haue neuer so little command , were it but of the least finger of the hand , or the least digit of the foote , yet might hee by meanes of it , either draw the seruice of the whole body , or so crampe and torment the whole body , as that he which should haue the command of all the rest , should haue no ioy , nor seruice thereof : much more then if he hath so great a share as the signification of Spirituals may be extēded vnto ; & that not only in lawfull sense , but also in a proper and necessary sense : there being no gift , indowment or capacitie in man , but which both may and also ought to bee an instrument of the Spirit , ( then the which what can bee more properly called Spirituall ) wee being bound to serue the Lord , not only with heart and soule , but with all our might ; euen our very eating and drinking ( the most common act that is ) being charged to intend the glory of God ; which not only is a Spirituall end , but also the end of all Spiritualls whatsoeuer . If Peter therefore must haue any Supreamacy at all ( especially in spiritualls ) he must of necessity haue all : Souerainty ( like punctum or vnitas Mathematica ) being vndiuidable . For though Souerainty may be seated in diuers persons , as namely in a State ( as it is seated in but one in a Monarchy ) yet must the Authority in euery mandate goe together ; as likewise euery person must obey it , not at halues , but with his whole man ; and * whatsoeuer thine hand shall find to doe thou must doe it with all thy power . This then being beaten out for a ground , that Peter either must haue all the Soueraigntie or none ; come wee vp cheerely ( gentle Reader ) close to the point , and see what euidence can be brought for Peters absolute and sole Supremacie . And ( not to say what is aleadged for this purpose but to say more then so ) all that can be aleadged must tend to the making good this Argument . Hee which in his time surpassed all men for Spirituall gifts and holinesse , good reason hee should ouerrule . But Peter so surpassed all men in his time : Peter therefore must bee the supreame . Wherevnto we answer ; that neither of the grounds are found . For as we acknowledge no cause why Peters gifts should bee esteemed of a more infallible and diuine element then others of the time ( as by and by we shall more fully answer ) so neither is the proposition to be granted which presumeth , that the more spirituall a man is , the more he should be possessed with Authoritie . For as the wife oftentimes may be more holy then the Husband , and excell him in vertue , both for wisedome , gouernment , sobriety ; yea euen for courage and bodily strength , ( especially in his sicknesse and decrepite age ) and yet stands charged in conscience to giue him the preheminence : So may a Subiect excell his Prince for personall vertues and spirituall mysteries , and yet still remaine charged to be a Subiect ; the maine reason hereof being this ; for that the vertues of a Subiect are habitually in his Prince , and so more properly his Princes then his owne ; as the vertues of the Wife are more her Husbands then her owne ; the Woman being made for the Man , and being the glory of the Man : and so a dignitie and reputation vnto the man. When therefore it is vrged for the preheminence of the spirituall men ( by Spirituall men whether we meane euery member of Christ , or only the Ministers of Christ it is not materiall ) that in Scripture they bee vsually tearmed the Shepheards and Pastors of the Church , the Lights of the World , &c. we answer , that our question is not concerning the excellency , but concerning the dependancie of their gifts ; wee maintayning that the pastorall skill is subordinate vnto that power which layes out the Pastures , and assigneth the Foulds , and keepes off the Wolues ; which being the proper offices of Kings and Gouernors , they are to be reputed ( as in writers both Diuine & Humane they be ordinarily tearmed ) the principall Shepheards . Though truly and properly the Lord only is the Shepheard , in respect of whom all Kings , Gouernors , and Pastors whatsoeuer are but as sheepe before Him ; though of his grace and for his purposes , He will haue them amongst men reputed as Shepheards ; some of them to bee as his Pages , and some only as Bell-weathers ; whereof these haue power to leade the flocks , so far as they haue eares to heare , and list to follow the tingling of their Bell : and the Pages , to leade and driue them whether they haue list or noe . So likewise when Spirituall men are called Lights ; though the Scripture expounds them to bee but Candlesticks of such Lights , yet may they bee inferiour vnto those which follow their light , as much as the Lantherne-bearer is inferiour vnto his following Master ; or as the vnderstanding is inferiour to the Will ; whereunto though it be a guide , yet is it also a Subiect ; the Will hauing power to in force both obiects and principles vppon it . As therefore the Moone and not the Sunne , is said to rule the Night , though all the light wherewith the Moone rules , shee receiues of the Sunne : So hee which possesseth the Throne must be esteemed the ruler of the people , and not hee which is possessor of the Light ; though it must bee confessed that all good rule is by the direction of the light . And as the Sunne beeing beneath the Moone , and vnder the Earth , can doe nothing in the time of the night , but so farre foorth as it can cast his beames into the lappe and capacitie of the Moone , which by vertue of her conspicuous eminency hath onely the power to disperse light vnto all that are vnder it : so the Spirituall man during his being ( as it were vnder the earth ) in an earthen vessell , and in a priuate condition ▪ can doe nothing with authority , but in the vertue and power of him that sits in the Throne : the maine reason heereof being this ; for that the rude and ignorant ( for whose only ordering and gouernment Authority is imparted vnto men ) can incomparably better deserne who is a possessour of the Throne , then who is a possessor of the Spirit ▪ and so by that meanes more certainely know whom they are to obey . For as in Wedlocke , had the Lord ordained that the holier or the wiser of the two should be the Head , there must needs insue continuall discord and vncertainty in the Family , who should bee the Head : the woman often times being ( seeming at least ) the holier , wiser &c. whereas hee expresly determining that the man shall be Head ( which with the least turne of the eye is discerned ) so all controuersie is ended , and the weakest of the Family easily resolued , who ( in case of difference about things indifferent ) ought to be obeyed . So in greater societies , had the Lord ordained that the most holy , or the most spirituall should bee head , there must needs haue insued the like vncertainty and discord who hee should be : hee that is holy or spirituall to day , being apt to be otherwise ( at least in appearance ) to morrow ; and such as be most vnholy , being as apt to carry an appearance of the holiest ; whereas he expresly setting it downe , that hee which weares the Crowne , or sits in the Throne , or beares the the Sword should be Head , all such strife is soone at at end ; the weakest that is being able with ease to discerne who such persons bee . For , though oftentimes Vsurpers may get posession of the Crowne or the Sword ; yet is that nothing so hard to discerne , as who is a false Professor of the Spirit : Time , place , person , discent , records , and titles ( which carnall men can iudge of , and lay together ) being of sufficient force to detect who is an Vsurper : all which though they bee but circumstances , yet are they such , as a man can haue no better for the discerning his owne father , whom notwithstanding he stands charged in conscience to obey . Better therefore that authority bee tyed to the Crown , then to the Spirit ; and that not only in regard of mans necessities , but also more especially for the effecting the Lords owne purposes ; who by this meanes can correct or scourge a whole Nation , and yet smite onely one particular person : namely by suffering their Prince or Head to becom a Tyrant or a Babe : whereupon ( as himselfe hath taught vs ) a woe must befall the whole Land : whereas were the Crowne continually kept and possessed by the Spirit , such a kind of Rod should finde no place . For as concerning those which thinke there is no necessity for this consequence , because in case a Babe or a Tyrant supplies the Throne , the whole Nation neede not be obnoxious vnto any smart thereby , for that it is thought lawfull , yea necessarie to cut off such Babes and Tyrants . We answer , that such opinion is not only most impious and presumptuous against God , but also most preposterous , monstrous , vniust , and ridiculous before men . First , most impious it is ; because it is the common Ordinance of God that wee should obey and honour Princes ; yea that wee should honour our particular Fathers , much more the Fathers of the whole Country : so farre must wee bee from abasing them , especially in case of their imbecillity . How impious then must they needs be , which will handle their Princes no better then caityfes , and most desperate members ? Secondly , most presumptuous it is , both for that it puts him by , whom the Lord will haue raigne , namely that Babe , or that Tyrant for the purpose aforesaid ; and also for that it does interpose a Iudgement seate betwixt the Lord , and him whom the Lord will haue his most immediate , his very next , his owne Annointed . And as for the monstrousnesse of it , it appeares in this : both for that it supposeth a power in the Body aboue the Head ; namely that power which must cut the Head off ; in the roome of which head , in case another head should grow vp ; yet must it still bee vnder that power of the Body ; which is most preposterous ; and also ( in case no such head growes vp ) for that either the Body must remaine without a head ( which will still be monstrous ) or some other member must supply the heads place which will be miserably ridiculous : For when the inferiour members which cannot discerne a Head from a Hand or a Foote , but only by the outward shape and figure therof , shall see ( suppose ) a hand or at least that which is like a hand to be in the place of the head ; they must needs a great while take it for but a fellow member , and so not doe it that respect and obedience which to the Head is due ; and then when at length after many admonitions they haue learned to see the power of an Head vnder the shape of an hand ; yet withall when they shall also learne how that hand came there ; namely by cutting off the vnsound or foolish Head : what remaines but that they thinke it necessary , ( at least lawfull ) for them to obserue whether that Hand be found , or whether some fit of a Chyragra be not growing vpon it : which if they finde ; what else but that some other member be thought of for the place ? and then who perhaps so likely to put forward as the Foote ? which if it attaines to the place of the Head ; as it must needs be a miserable shame and confusion to the Domesticke members , so how can it bee otherwise then a most horrible scorne vnto the forraigne enemies ? and as good sport as the walking of men with their heeles vpwards , is to idle beholders . Yea what more vniust euen in the eies of common Sense , then that the Master-builder should bee at this passe , either to giue account of the soundnesse of his worke vnto those which are beneath him ; or else to be at their mercie to haue the Stage pulled from vnder him ? But , Christian Reader , I feare mee you thinke I haue committed an excursion ; and yet I pray suffer mee to answer one Obiection more , which is thought to be of Demonstratiue force for the Intitling the Spirituall man to the Throne before any : and it is this . The first Adam vpon his fall did forfeit all the domini - and titles which the Lord vpon his Creation had set him in : Such therefore as haue no other birth but from the first Adam , can haue no title to dominions or authorities whatsoeuer : and therefore they which are borne of the second Adam ( vnto whom the first Adams inheritance must lapse vnto ) must be the only true Heires thereof ; and consequently as men are more or lesse borne of the second Adam ( that is , as they are more or lesse Spirituall ) they shall more or lesse haue titles to Kingdomes , Lordships , properties or capacities whatsoeuer , and no otherwise . Wherevnto wee answer ; first , that though Adam vpon his fall did loose the sweetnesse of his dominions ( the curse of God inuading it ) yet does it not follow but that he might still retaine the state and title thereof ; euen as a rich man when hee falls into some tormenting desease , and so hath no ioy of all his riches , yet still remaines seazed and possessed of his riches neuerthelesse . Secondly , the estate and dominion which God gaue vnto Adam , though it might be a ioy & dignitie vnto him , yet was it principally to bee taken in the nature of a charge ; which charge it was not in Adams power to auoid or forfeit vpon his trespasse and fall , but rather to double and increase it thereupon : a mans voluntary dashing his abilities , being no dispensation for his duties ; negligence being of no more force to discharge vs , then voluntary ignorance is to excuse vs. Thirdly , that the Lord did make vnto the first Adam , a generall grant of vniuersall propriety and dominion , we expresly find ( Gen. 1.28 . &c. ) but that hee did reuoke the same we finde not . Paradise indeed , both the heauenly ( the fruition of God ) and also the earthly ( the Garden of Eden ) we find expresly that it was taken from him : but wee also finde as expresly , that it was giuen him only vpon condition of his obedience : whereas the donation of vniuersall dominion had no such condition annexed vnto it . Fourthly , had Adam apprehended that superiority and dominion should vpon his Fall , be conueyed vnto men by the course of Grace , and not by the course of Nature : hee would neuer haue intitled his vngracious first borne vnto all his possessions , as the name Cain signifies , and left nothing for his best-borne , but ( the younger brothers portion ) vanitie , as the name Abel signifies . Fiftly , the Lord euery where so establishing the Hethen Princes in their States and Kingdomes ; as Pharaoh , Nabuchadnezar , Cyrus , Ahashuerosh , Darius , Caesar , &c. who had no kind of right therunto , but by the Law of Nations , which hath his originall only from ( consecrated reason ) the Law of the first Adam , of whom only they were discended ( the second Adam being to them vnknowne ; ) it may sufficiently teach that no reuocation of originall Dominions did follow vpon the fall . But finally and principally , and in stead of all , may be this ; for that the second Adam and his line ( vnto whom only such supposed forfeiture was to extend ) did neuer make the least title or claime thereunto : either when he was first promised , or when he was first made manifest in the flesh . For as concerning the time when hee was first promised , so farre was hee then from taking any vantage of the Fall ; as that the first mention of him did promise a Succour against our Enemie that gaue the Fall ; in these words : The seede of the Woman , shall bruise the Serpents head . Likewise his first-borne Abel ( who by faith in him offered the the good Sacrifice ) was so farre from attayning any superiority by vertue of his being borne of him , as that it proued the only cause of his earthly ruine : his Brother therefore hating him because his works were good ; and his works ( wee know ) being therefore only good , because he was borne of him . So also the Patriarkes and holy men in their times ; did they not alwaies account themselues rather loosers then gainers by this second birth ? they euery where vndergoing tributes and bondages more willingly and more faithfully then any . And as for the time of the second Adams manifesting himselfe in the flesh ; so farre was he then also from claiming any of the first Adams rights , as that vpon all occasions , hee professeth the maine intent of his comming , to be for the restoring of his losses , euen though it were with the losse of his owne life : euery where styling himselfe no better then The Sonne of Man ; which the meanest of Adams Race might assume as well as hee : and finally , as often telling vs that his Kingdome was not of this world ; that he came not to be ministred vnto , but to minister ; that he had not whereon to lay his head , and refusing so much as to arbitrate a matter betwixt two brethren ( which the most priuate persons that are may be allowed to doe ) least he should seeme to take vpon him the Office of a Iudge , and so leaue a conceit in his followers that some degree of Authority might bee deriued from him : euery where finally prescribing such courses , and aduising all that desired to grow great in him , to exceed only in humilitie , preferring therefore a child before them all , when they stroue who should be the greatest : and telling them ( in effect ) that authority and greatnesse was to bee deriued only from the Kings of the Nations . For whereas after his ascention hee tells vs that All power was giuen him both in Heauen and in Earth , His meaning therein is only this ; that now all power both in Heauen and Earth should be vnder his humanitie , as before it was vnder his Deity ; and that as all men , euen Adam himselfe and all his race were formerly vnder him as he was the Sonne of God : so now they should likewise bee vnder him as hee was the Sonne of man. For the effecting thereof there needed no alteration of States , or new conueyances ▪ for that as all other creatures both in Heauen and in Earth ; whether Angels , Beasts , Wormes , Plants , Stones , or whatsoeuer ; are likewise become subiect vnto this manhood , and yet still retaine their orders , natures , and properties as before : Angels remaining Angels ; Beasts remaining Beasts ; Lyons , Lyons ; Stones ▪ Stones , &c. so does it no otherwise follow but that mankind may likewise become subiect vnto the manhood of God ; and yet all men still to continue in their former properties : Kings , remaining Kings ; Princes , Princes ; Fathers , Masters , Husbands , Wiues , Subiects , Sonnes , Seruants , in their former condition ; and ( as the Apostles tell vs ) Euery man in the same calling wherin he was called , as well after his birth in the Second Adam as in the first . For as the second Adam did not thinke good to be the Father of a new generation by the course of Nature ; wherewith to propagate his Church , but made choise of the old Adams issue to new graft vpō . So may we conceiue it to be a course most answerable thereunto , that when he meanes to adorne and bespangle his Church with Scepters , Crownes and Authorities , He will not make new Crowns or new Scepters , or take away Crownes and Scepters from the old possessors , to adorne his followers withall : but only new graft vpon those old Crownes and Potentates ; and so most sweetely bring it to passe , that though hee does not make his followers Kings , yet does hee make Kings his followers . Which as it is all one for the outward glory and countenance of the Gospell , so it is farre more agreeing with the propertie and profession of the Gospel ; namely in winning Kings vnto the grace of God , by gentle , easie , weake , and peaceable meanes ; making choice of Sheepe , and not Wolues or Lyons for his Ambassadors , and that when hee sends to Wolues and Lyons and worse then Tygers : that so those Rebells in the day of visitation when they see how the Lord hath dealt with them , and how in stead of sheepe hee could haue sent wolues and Lyons in their owne kinde , to haue worried and destroyed them ; then as ouercome with the coales of fire which his long suffering had cast vpon them , they with all their hearts and soules , present him and his Gospell with their Scepters , Crownes , Dignities , and Possessions : yea they thus breake forth into most vehement and sincere protestations ( as our so Christian Soueraigne hath taught them ) vnto his Maiestie alone I haue deuoted my Scepter , my Sword , my Penne , my whole industry ; my whole selfe with all that is mine in whole and in part : I doe it , I doe it , in all humble acknowledgement of his vnspeakable fauour , &c. * to whose seruice as a most humble homager and vassall , I consecrate all the glory , honour , lustre and splendor of my earthly Kingdomes . Wee conclude then , that neither diuine ordinance , nor Church benefit , does inforce or perswade this ground ( without which Saint Peter cannot be intitled vnto Soueraignty ; ) that the more spirituall men are , the more they ought to bee possessors of Authority : which conclusion also were it granted , yet would not Peters Supremacy thereupon insue , vnlesse it bee also proued , that in Spirituall gifts and graces Peter must of necessity bee acknowledged to surmount all persons : which we grant not . For as concerning the Text and collections which vse to bee alleadged for that purpose ; as namely that Peter is ordinarily first named when the Apostles are rehearsed . 2. That our Sauiour three seuerall times gaue him charge to feede his sheepe . 3. That our Sauiour particularly told him that he had prayed for him . 4. That our Sauiour payed the tribute for him . 5. Did more ordinarily discourse with him , then any of the rest . 6. Gaue him a new name . 7. Tearmed him a Rocke , and promised to builde his Church vpon him . 8. Gaue him the Keyes of heauen . 9. And finally , wrought especially by him in the Primitiue Church affayres . We thus shortly answer them in order . And first concerning his nominall priority , we answer , that it is not of force to intitle him vnto any principality ; it being not auoydable amōgst the most equals , but that there must bee such kind of precedency ; as for example in the Trinity : though neither is Peter euery where first named ; both a Iames and b Andrew being sometime named before him . 2. And as for our Sauiours triple charging him to feed his sheepe : wee answere , That it is rather a checke then a grace , to bee often called vpon to doe a dutie : and in that it is said that Peter was sory when it was said vnto him the third time , &c. it may seem that Peter took it no otherwise ; as perhaps conceiting such tripling of his charge , to bee in the way of a glance at his triple denial . 3. Frō the like consideration of Peters weaknesse ( wee answere to the third ) might proceed our Sauiours telling him , that He had praied for him . For no doubt our Sauiours praier was as frequent & effectuall for the rest , though he saw not the like cause to tell them so much . 4. And as for our Sauiours paying the tribute for him ; we answer , that it may rather argue Peters pouerty and subiection , then any kind of excellency and dominion : the rest also perhaps not being lyable to the tribute which was then demanded ; either because they were no dwellers at Capernaum , as Peter was ; and so it might bee if it were the Emperors tribute ; or for that they were not the first borne in their Families , of whome onely the other tribute ( toward the Temple ) was demanded . 5. And as for our Sauiours so ordinary discoursing with Peter ; wee answere , that it is ordinary with natural Fathers , to make choice rather of their little ones to oppose and discourse withall , then their men growne sonnes ; especially when their intent therein is to teach standers by ; the most ready answerers rather then the more wary being fittest for such purposes . 6. And as for the new naming of Peter ; wee answere , that diuers of the rest also had new names giuen thē ; as Leui being new-named Matthew ; Saul , Paul ; Iames and Iohn Boanerges ; which name being by interpretation the sonnes of thunder , may farre better resemble persons of Authoritie , then Peters new name of Cephas or Petros ; for that a Stone , as those names signifie , is more fit to make a Subiect then a Head , if names should bee regarded . 7. Now as for our Sauiours tearming Peter a Rock , and promising to build His Church vpon him ; we answer , that neither doth that Text giue Peter any higher preheminence , for that the rest of the Apostles were styled by higher termes then so ; euen no lesse then absolute and seuerall foundations of the Church ; the wall of new Ierusalem being said ( Reuel . 21.14 . ) to haue twelue foundations , and in them the names of the twelue Apostles : Another Text also ( Ephes . 2.20 . ) making not onely the rest of the Apostles , but also the Prophets as deepe in the foundation as he ; when it saith , that the Church was founded vpon the Prophets and Apostles ; in which Text also it being further added , that Iesus Christ is the Head Corner Stone ; If Peter should so be esteemed a Rock , as to bee the Rocke alone , hee should so not onely surmount his fellowes ( contrary to those Texts ) but also our Sauiour himselfe . 8. Nor againe does our Sauiours giuing Peter the Keyes of heauen , any whit aduance Peter aboue the rest of the Apostles , vnto whom these heauenly Keyes , whether the keyes of knowledge , the keyes of binding and loosing , the keyes of remitting and retayning , or the Keyes of Dauid ( if there be any odds or difference amongst these keyes ) were as expressely giuen . For first , as touching the keyes of Knowledge ; those we find , euen the Scribes and Pharisees and common Lawyers not to bee destitute of : and as for the keyes of remitting and retaining sinne ; those also our Sauiour does plurally giue , when hee sayeth ; Whose sinnes yee remit , they are remitted , &c. though to speake truely and properly , neither Peter , nor any mortall man euer had power to remit sinne , but onely as the Priests in the Old Law had power to cleanse Leprosie ; which was only by pronouncing according vnto the Leuiticall Rules , who were cleane , and who not ; the cognizance of Leprosie being confined onely vnto them , and none in the Congregation beeing reputable for cleane , ( after presumptions to the contrary ) but onely whom they so pronounced . Thirdly , the keyes of binding and loosing ( if they must differ from the former ) are likewise found giuen to the rest , when our Sauiour saith , Whatsoeuer yee binde on earth , shall bee bound in heauen ; where the Relatiue ( yee ) is thought to extend ( in the iudgement of * good Expositors ) not onely to the rest of the Apostles , but also ( in case there spoken of ) to euery member of Christ . Finally , concerning the keyes of David , which ( our Sauiour in his glory professing himselfe to be the keeper of ) may seeme to haue the preheminence ; wee finde long before Peters time to haue been committed vnto the Prophet Ieremie ( vnder the name of Eliachim ) in these words : I will lay the key of Dauid vpon his shoulders ; hee shall shut , and none shall open ; hee shall open , and none shall shut : Wherein then consists the peculiaritie of Peters Keyes ? For though when our Sauiour promised him them , hee tearmed them the Keyes of Heauen ; yet for as much as the Keyes of binding , loosing , opening , shutting , remitting &c. doe concerne no other gates then the gates of Heauen ; such nominall explications annexed vnto Peters Keyes , can giue no reall Specialty vnto them . Especially considering how the Key of Faith which euery beleeuer must haue as well as Peter , is also the Key of Heauen ; yea and such a Key , as without it , none of the other Keyes can , and yet , it , without all the rest , is able , to open Heauen Gates alone . Though truly and properly we must alwaies remember , that he only is able to open the heauens , which hath made the heauens ; His precious blood being the only true Key indeed ; and his Word reuealing so much , being the handle of that Key ; and the faith of man beeing the hand , which by meanes of that handle , His Word , does turne that Key his bloud , vpon the maine boult , sinne ; which only hath shut Heauen gates against the Sonnes of Men. 9. Finally concerning Peters agencye and imployment in the Church affaires more then others , we answer : that the principall Agents and Speakers are not alwaies of necessity the principall persons : Aduocates and pleaders , exceeding Iudges and Presidents in such Offices ; the High Priest Aaron being as a mouth vnto Moses , though Moses was as God vnto him : and the men of Lystra esteeming Paul to be therefore inferiour vnto Barnabas ( as much as Mercurie was vnto Iupiter ) because Paul was the chiefe speaker . Secondly , though wee find Peter in the Acts of the Apostles , to take vp the occasions of Speech very often and abundantly ; yet may we obserue diuerse tokens of more eminency in others ; especially in Paul , Iohn , and both the Iameses : the one of these being graced with no meaner tearme then the Lords brother ; & the other being named of Paul ( and before Peter ) amongst those which were accounted pillars : mention also being made of him with more authoritie then of any the rest : as when Iames did but say ( Act. 15.19 . ) my sentence is &c. presently without more ado the Text addeth ( v. 22. ) It seemed good vnto the Apostles to send , &c. Iames also being only named when Paul was dispensed withal for his cōdescēding vnto the Iewish rites . And as cōcerning Iohn , we find ; first that he is vsually called the Disciple whom Iesus loued ; that our Sauiour permitted him to leane on his breast at his last Supper : made him the Son of his owne Mother , & as a gardian vnto her : gaue him the grace to write his Gospell in the diuinest manner ; with answerable Canonicall Epistles : as also made him the immediate pen-man of his special Epistles to the seauen Churches : & finally reuealed vnto him the future estate of the whol Church vnto the end of the world . And as touching Paul ; these peculiar excellencies we find concerning him . First , that his calling was by the Lords immediate voice frō heauen ; was seperated by the appointmēt of the holy Ghost ; was reckoned amonst the Prophets of his time ; abounded in vnwritten reuelations , as Iohn did in the written ; foretold the immediate blindnes of Elimas ( which was answerable vnto Peters like prediction of the death of Ananias ) Tooke the care of all the Churches ; Labored more thē they all ; would not build on anothers foundation ; had the largest Prouince , namly ouer al the Gētiles ; wrot most canonicall Epistles ; most magnified his Office ; stood most vpon his Authority , affirming that who so despised his Doctrine despised God ; commending his owne example , and citing his owne authority ( behold I Paul , I say vnto you &c. ) and finally rebuking Peter to the face . Whereas cōcerning Peter , as he is not any where noted for spirituall excellency and infallibilitie more then others , so on the contrary he is more expresly touched for infirmities and failes then any . Witnesse both his ouerweaning of his owne strength , and boasting that hee would neuer forsake his Master , when before the next morning hee denyed him and forsware him . Witnesse his ignorance of the maine intent of our Sauiours comming ( in disswading him from suffering ) whereupon he was called Satan . Witnesse his ignorance of the Catholike extention of the Gospell ; ( in refusing to admit the Gentiles thereunto . ) And witnesse finally his timorousnesse in vsing Christian libertie for feare of angring the Iewes : with other fayles . For though wee reuerence the memory of Saint Peter as a choise vessell of Gods Grace ; yet when wee see him so aduanced aboue his fellows , & that only for the exalting his pretended Successours so incōparably aboue their fellows no man can iustly bee offended if we note that Peter was left-handed no lesse then his Fellowes . But for a finall answer , thus we conclude ; that neither : Peter nor Paul , nor Iames nor Iohn , did sway the affaires of the Primatiue Church , but iointly the Twelue together . For both the choosing the new Apostle , the ordaining the seauen Deacons ▪ the deciding controuersies , the disposing Prouinces , the sending Barnabas to Antioch , Peter & Iohn into Samaria , the taking account of Peters going to the Gentiles ( notwithstāding his Diuine warrant therfore ) were all the ioynt Acts of the whole Twelue . The decrees finally going forth in no other name but in the name of the Twelue . So as cōcerning any soueraintie , supremacye , primacy , or superexcellency ( of necessity to be granted ) in the person of Peter ; we may finally conclude ; that neither did our Sauiour ordaine it , nor the Apostles acknowledg it , or inuest him with it , ( as there was no cause why they should , his cōmon infirmities considered ) nor did Peter himselfe take it vpon him , but rather exceeded them all in subiection ; as both his long iourney into Samaria , when the Twelue sent Iohn & him ; his giuing account of his actions when they were ( though vniustly ) excepted against ; & his suffring a publike rebuke at the hands of one which was none of the Twelue , may testifie ; as also his so expresse teaching submissiō whether vnto Kings as the Supremes , or vnto gouernors , &c. admonishing those of his owne sort , not to carry themselues as Lords ouer Gods heritage , & neuer in his Epistles intitling himselfe otherwise thē a Seruant of Iesus Christ , or an elder , or an Apostle at the most . Whereas had hee taken himselfe to bee in that Supereminencie as should make him Head of the Church ( yea such an Head , as should be the originall vnto a succession of Heads vnto the end of the world ) not only without arrogance hee might haue inserted it into his style , but also without wrong to posterity he could not haue omitted so to doe : euen by the same discretion wherewith S. Paul does more often tearme himselfe an Apostle , then any of the Twelue vsed to doe ; because else his Apostleship might haue beene doubted of : so there being doubt ( at least ) of Peters being such an head , had it not farre more concerned him euery where ( at least once in his life ) to haue prefixed his title ? yea when there was a strife amongst the Apostles who shold bee the chiefe ; was it not then hie time for Peter to aduance himselfe ? or had our Sauiour euer meant any such principality vnto Peter , and that of such perpetuall necessity , would hee haue omitted so faire an occasion , to stablish a matter of that moment , which both with a word he might haue done ; and also when the time was , either then or neuer ( in a manner ) to bee done , his departure and death being so instant ? yea , would hee so on the contrary haue generally forbidden them the vse of any Authority , when he told them that though the Kings of the Nations did exercise authority , yet with them it should not be so ? For , as for those which expound those words ( with you it shall not be so ) to restraine the Disciples only from ruling so tyrannically , or so vniustly as the heathen ; they therein make our Sauiours words to bee nothing to the Disciples question : for they might haue answered againe , that there strife was not who should rule tyrannically or vniustly , but only who should bee chiefe ; whereas some one , or diuers of them might be cheefe , and yet not only no Tyrants , but not so much as lawfull Gouernours . But to conclude ; for as much as wee can finde no necessity for the acknowledging such Supereminencie of Peters Spirituall gifts ; nor ( were that granted ) any step to Authoritie thereupon ; nor that the Kings and Gouerners in Peters time did loose there Soueraignty ouer their Christian Subiects ; it cannot therefore be , that Peter was vniuersally the Head of all Christians in his time : and so the second Linke of the maine Chaine proues of no force . The next is this : Only the Successors of Peter must be these vniuersall Heads in their times : whereunto wee answer ; first , that the Founder of the Church , Iesus Christ , did neuer ordaine that any Principality , gifts , or capacities whatsoeuer should bee conueyed to any of his members by succession : Secondly , that hee neuer disabled or excepted against any Line , Tribe , Nation , Language , or Continent whatsoeuer , from taking as high place in his Church , as his Church afforded : Thirdly , when his will was in the time of the Old Law , to haue the Priesthood goe by Succession ; He did both specifie the Line wherein it should passe , namely the Line of Aaron ; ( confirming also the same by the miraculous budding of Aarons Rod ) and also expresly set downe all the rites and ceremonies , which should be stricty obserued at euery seuerall consecration ; yea , the very garments wherwith euery Successor at his annointing , should be inuested , were determined . Since therefore in the new Law , no such Line or Tribe is mentioned , no rites appointed , no garments or manner of consecration inioyned ; it must be a forcible argument to conclude that in the new Law no such Succession was euer intended ; for that the new Law being made , not vnto one People , but vnto all people , not for a time but for euer ; had much more needed specifications of persons , places , ceremonies and circumstances then that which was but for one particular People and in continuall expectation to vanish away . Fourthly , when in processe of time the Church shall attaine vnto such an amplitude , as shall reach vnto all the corners of the Earth ; If none must then be head therof but the Successour of Peter , it must follow that Peters Successour shall bee intollerably surcharged : For either he must haue more gifts then Peter had , or no more ; if more , then is he more then Peters Successour . But if no more ; there is no equitie nor proportion in it , that he whose charge is a thousand fold greater then Peters , yet shall haue no greater measure of gifts to discharge it then Peter had . Finally , for as much as the Lord hath told vs , that many shall come from the East , and from the West , and sit with Abraham Isaac and Iacob , and the children of the Kingdome shall bee cast out ; as also , that whosoeuer heareth his Word and keepeth it , the same is his Brother , and Sister , and Mother : and that it should not profit the Iewes for that they had Abraham to their Father : Hee telling vs also in the Old Testament by his Prophet , that an vngodly Sonne should fare neuer the better for his godly Father , nor a godly Sonne any thing the worse for his vngodly Father : the course also of the times declaring vnto vs , how holy Kings had vnholy Sonns to succeede them : and on the contrary ; as good King Iotham hauing a wicked Sonne Ahaz for his Successour , and he a good Son Hezechia for his Successour ; and hee a wicked Son Manasses for his Successour , and hee a good grand-child Iosiah for his Successour ; and hee a wicked Sonne Iehoahaz for his Successour : It may sufficiently resolue a Christian mind how farre it is from the purpose of God , that his gifts and graces should goe by succession . For though often times a good and godly Father had a good and godly Son to succeed him , yet was not that by vertue of Succession , but by vertue of Gods grace immediately directing the Son , as well as the Father : euen as to day may be as faire a day as yesterday , and yet not because it succeeds yesterday , but because the Sunn shines as immediately vpon it , as it did vpon yesterday . Finally , ( for a conclusion ) whosoeuer challengeth Supremacy in the Church by vertue of Succession , does plead no lesse then flat contradiction : For whosoeuer is Supreame Head of the Church , must bee immediate vnto God himselfe ; But whosoeuer claimeth any thing by vertue of Succession , does of necessity imply , that there is a person betwixt him and the Lord ; namely his predecessor from whom his vertue is deriued . The next Linke of the Chaine is this : that Only the Bishops of Rome were the Successours of Peter in their times . Whereunto we answer ; First , that no diuine record does auouch so much , or so much as mention any by the name of Bishop of Rome : and therefore the knowledge of any rites concerning that Sea , can not bee materiall vnto a point of faith . Secondly , as it is not certainely agreed vpon , who that Bishop was which immediately Succeded Peter , ( some affirming Liuius , some Clemens , and some Clitus to bee the man ) so can there be no cause shewne , why som Bishop of Rome must needs be he . For first , if holinesse of life were sufficient to make a Successour ; so euery Christian might be Peters successor as wel as any Bishop of Rome . Secondly , if besides holinesse of life there must also concurre soundnesse of Doctrine ; yet so also any Pastor may as well be his successour . Or if yet further such a quantitie of charge as Peter had , bee requisite vnto the constitution of his Successour ; yet so also euery ordinary Diocesan is able to be his successor . Or if yet further , the foure fold qualifications Apostolicall , namely Immediate calling , Generalitie of commission , Infallibility of Iudgement , and Vniuersality of Languages must concurre to make such a Successour : yet , as the first Bishops of Rome are no where avouched to bee thus qualified more then others , if so much ; especially if they knew no Language but the Latin , and came to their places by Election , which is no immediate Calling ; So neither will such quallification make a Successor vnto Peter more peculiar , then vnto the rest of the Apostles vnto whom such foure-fold qualification was common : wherein then shall consist the marrow and quiddity which makes the Roman Bishops the peculiar Successours of Peter ? For , should it be supposed that some peculiar imposition of hands did passe from Peter vpon the first Bishop of Rome ( wherewith the Holy Ghost was giuen in the time of the Apostles ) or some portion of Peters spirit was giuen to that first Bishop ( as the spirit of Moses was vnto the Seauenty ) or that Peters garments were put vpon him ( as the garments of Aaron were vpon his Successours ) or some such like Rite of conueyance ; yet for as much as those kinde of ceremonies , when they were vsed had no vertue in themselues but were diuised by the wisedome of God , for the shaddowing and concealing his owne miraculous and immediate operations ( as our Sauiour and the Apostles vsed Spitle , and Clay , and Hemmes of garments , Napkins , Partlets , & Shaddowes ) the intitling any Bishop of Rome vnto Peters vertue , spirit , or priuiledge , by means of any such outward passage which hath no diuine record to specifie it , is no lesse presumptuous then superstitious and ridiculous . Finally concerning their argumēt from Peters being the first Bishop of Rome ( their cardinall argument in this point ) that therfore only the Bishops of Rome are his Locall , and so consequently his most proper Successours : wee answer ; that neither is locall succession of force to attaine to the vertue of the predecessour ; there being no kinde of place , whether natural , ciuill , or mysticall , but which is capable euen of contrarieties ; euen the Soule of man ( the purest vessell and continent that is ) being a receptacle of Sinne as well as grace , and the Temple of God being destinated for the Seate of Antichrist as well as for Iesus Christ . Nor againe can the Bishops of Rome be proued ( at least in any peculiar manner ) so much as his Locall successours ; both for that other Bishops , as namely of Ierusalem and Antioch had Peter for their Predecessour ( & that euen by Scripture inference ) as also for that no diuine ( or approued ) writer does auouch , either that Peter euer was the Bishop of Rome , or that hee was personally present at Rome . For whereas vpon Peters dating one of his Epistles from Babylon , it is argued that he was then at Rome ; for that mystically hee might account that City Babylon , yet considering how there were three Locall Babylons , namely in Syria , Caldea , and Egypt ; which were farre more neerly situate vnto Peters Prouince then Rome was , there coniecture that Peter meant Rome by Babylon in that Text hath three to one against it . But if coniectures and good probabilities may be allowed to carry any sway in this businesse , it is easie to produce them abundantly , and that out of Scriptures , that Peter neuer was ( but as euery Apostle was ) any Bishop of Rome . For first it is apparant that Peter by the speciall appointment of the Spirit was confined vnto them of the Circumcision , whereof Rome was no part : Secondly , it was well nigh twenty or thirty yeeres after our Sauiour gaue Peter the charge of feeding his Sheepe , that Peter aboad about Ierusalem , Antioch , Ioppa , and those quarters . Thirdly , Paul in his Epistle to the Romans , does tell them that hee alwayes had a speciall care , not to build on anothers foundation ; then the which Text , what more faire argument can bee framed , that Paul neuer esteemed the Church of Rome to haue any other founder then himselfe : as also his speciall Commission ouer the Gentiles ( whereof Rome was the chiefe City ) his large Epistle to the Romans ( conteyning the foundation of the Christian Faith in all the dimensiōs ) his being free borne of the Romans , his appealing to Rome in his persecutions , his abiding there diuers yeares , and that with fauour for prisoner ; his inditing most of his Epistles there , and neuer making mention of Peter in any of them , but alwaies complayning how destitute he was , how all had forsaken him , how all sought their owne ; how he had none was with him but Luke ; how he had none like minded vnto Timothy ( euen when his death was instant ) and such like circumstances may inferre . Vnles it were to be supposed , that after the death of Paul , Peter came out of Asia into Europe , to keepe consistory at Rome ( and that 25. yeares by the rule of their owne stories ) there to beginne an vniuersall Church-gouernment ( which in his best yeares hee neuer medled with ) and in that City which hee is supposed to esteeme Mysticall Babylon ? To this we may finally adde that no writers , liuing in the time of the first Bishops , do any where auouch that those first Bishops did euer challenge any such Soueraigntie , but rather they auouch the contrary . For why does Clement , ( who is supposed to bee the first Bishop of Rome ) in his Epistle to Iames , style Iames , Episcopum Episcoporum regentem Ecclesiam Hebraeorum Hierosolymis & c ? why does a Father tearme Antioch , Caput Orbis ? which , in that the Disciples did there first begin to be called Christians ; ( Act. 11.26 . ) it might farre better be so tearmed then any other ; a Councell also hauing these words Apostolici throni Antiochenae magnae ciuitatis . Or why was the Bishop of Alexandria intitled Iudex Orbis ? Or why did the Councell of Affrick forbid appeales ad transmarina Concilia ? A Father also affirming non esse congruum — that it is not meete for them that are in Egypt to Iudge them that are in Thracia : or why did the Councell of Carthage forbid that any should be called the highest Bishop ? or why does a Pope of late times affirme that vntill the Councell of Nyce , there was but parvus respectus ad Romanos Episcopos ? In which Councell also ( if hee meant Nyceum primum ) why was it decreed ( An. Dom. 323. ) vt honor cuique suus servetur Ecclesiae ? wherein also it is expresly prouided that the Bishop of Ierusalem should haue his auncient honour : and why in the primitiue Councells had the Roman Bishops sometime the fourth place , sometime the fift place , and sometime the sixt assined them ? yea finally , why did Gregory ( himselfe a Bishop and Pope of Rome ) liuing about 500. yeeres after Peter , notwithstanding avouch , that none of his Predecessours did euer take vpon him to vse the vngodly name of Episcopus vniuersalis ? yea & so deeply to challēge the Patriarch of Constantinople for assuming it , as that he tearmed him therein , the fore-runner of Antichrist : euery where not sparing in his Epistles to brand that title with all the reproaches and execrations hee could deuise ; calling it tiphuum superbiae vocabulum temerarium , pompaticum , scelestum , superstitiosum , profanum , nomen erroris , nomen singularitatis , nomen vanitatis , nomen hypocrysios , nomen blasphemiae . Surely ( a little by the way Reader let me speake it ) If Gregory so thought him to be defied which would be called Episcopus vniuersalis , what would he haue thought of that person who ordinarily aduanceth him selfe in these manner of titles , properties , and conditions : 1. In Papa est omnis potestas , supra omnes potestates tam coeli quam terrae . 2. Papa et Christus faciunt vnum tribunal . 3. Papa potest dispensare contra ius diuinum . 4. Persuaserunt Pōtificibus quòd omnia possent , et sic quòd facerent quicquid liberet , etiam illicita et quod sint plùs quàm Deus . 5. Credere dominum nostrum Deum Papam non po tuisse provt statuit , hereticum esse censetur . 6. Papa praecipit Angelis , et habet potestatem in mortuos . 7. Nec Deus es nec homo , quasi neuter es inter vtrumque . 8. Hic est ille Melchisedeck , hic est caput omnium pontificum , de cuius plenitudine omnes accipiunt . 9. Dicimus , definimus , pronunciamus , omnino esse de necessitate salutis omni humanae creaturae subesse Romano Pontifici . Papa lux venit in mundum sed dilexerunt tenebras magis quam lucem . 11. Tibi data est omnis potestas tam in coelo quàm in terra . 12. Papa potest omnia quae Christus potest . 13. Authoritate Scripturae licet non innotuere nobis indulgentiae , at Authoritate Romanae Ecclesiae Romanorumque Pontificum quae maior est . 14. Nedum circa Coelestia , Terrestria et Infernalia Papa gerit vicariatum Christi , sed etiam supra Angelos bonos et malos . 15. Tu es omnia et supra omnia . 16. Sacerdos est creator creatoris sui ; — qui creauit vos absque vobis , creatur a vobis mediantibus vobis . And if euen a Priest can create his Creator ; what then can hee not doe which makes that Bishop who makes that Priest that so makes his Maker ? O feruent Gregory that thou wert but so long awake as to heare these manaer of voices of thy Successors ! for if thy zeale grew so hot against one for being tearmed Episcopus vniuersalis ; how would it burne vp those , who with their Babylonian Tops haue surmounted euen Lucifer himselfe ? For Lucifers only sicknesse being this because he was not ( sicut altissimus ) peere with the highest . These most glorious birds of his , first making all mankind their footestoole , haue found the Highest to be their inferiour , yea their very creature : and all this for the fulfilling that Scripture . He shall exalt himselfe aboue all that is called God. The fift Linke of the Chaine is this : Only the Popes of Rome were the Successours of those Bishops . Whereunto we answer ; that for as much as the Popes did differ from the Bishops , both in name ( the word Papa not being knowne amongst the ancient Latines or those Bishops ) and also in the forme of Election , ( the most substantiall difference that States can haue ) and thirdly in the qualitie of the persons both electing and to be elected ; only Cardinalls ( a Colledge vnknowne vntill of late ) being both electores and eligibiles ; and finally in the quantity and specialty of their charge ; it must of necessity follow , that those Popes were of a diuers kinde and originall from those Bishops , and so consequently more or lesse then Successours vnto those Bishops , and so finally more or lesse then Heads of the Church . The last Linke of the Chaine is this : Only Hee which now possesseth the Roman Papacy is the Successour of those Popes . Wherevnto wee answer ; first , that is not only void of diuine proofe , but also that it is vncapable thereof : namely because it is grounded vpon matters of fact which hapned long since the time when those proofes had their last period . Secondly , as it is vncapable of diuine proofe , so also is it vncapable of the better kind of humane proofe ; namely that kinde of proofe which is by operation of iudgement ; matters of fact hauing only Sense and eye-witnesse to beare them out . Thirdly , wheras other matters of fact are ordinarily prooued with two or three witnesses at the most ; this proposition must haue no lesse lesse then two or three hundred ; euery seuerall Successour ( whereof there haue beene aboue an hundred ) needing no lesse then two witnesses ( a Register being a double witnesse ) to auouch the canonicall validitie of his choice . To these exceptions we might adde how sundry times and waies the Succession from the first Pope to the now present , hath beene interrupted . As first , for that the Papacie diuers times by the space of an whole yeare , and sometimes seauen yeares hath beene vnsupplyed ; secondly , that diuers times againe , ( no lesse then thirty seuerall times ) there haue beene two or three Popes at once : thirdly , for that diuers times , the Successour hath contraryed , the Predecessour , and that so mortally , as that the dead corps of the Predecessour hath capitally been proceeded against . Fourthly , for that diuers haue beene elected and installed incompetently , indirectly , fraudulently , & violently ; in which cases the so elected are by the Locall Decrees pronounced Apostaticall , and not Apostolicall . Fiftly , for that diuers haue supplyed the place which in their liues were most vile , Licencious , Monstrous , Homicidious , Incestuous , Scismaticall , Hereticall , Magicall , and Diabolicall : in so much as a Writer of their owne Nation hath not spared to say that the goodnesse of a Pope is commended when it exceedes not the wickednesse of other men . And finally for that their doctrine hath continually beene protested against , especially this last hundred yeares and that maugre all kind of torturings , murtherings , and massacrings that could bee deuised . These kind of allegatiōs though we might insist vpon , against the tenour of this pretended Succession ; yet because it cannot be done , but by the aide of humane writers , which for that they bee subiect both to errour & falsifications , when we haue done neuer so much it will not be of force to either satisfie or conuince the conscience , which is the only thing wee aime at . To say therefore no more then we meane to make the conscience a Iudge of , and yet as much as conditionally ( particulars not being capable of any other but conditionall demonstrations ) shall fasten vpon the Conscience ; thus wee pronounce ; that if at any time since first the Papacie began , any of the Popes did euer inioyne vpon Capitall penaltie blasphemous or Idolatrus Doctrine ; or ( to make our instance more speciall ) if they did euer at any time capitally inioyne either the worshipping of any kinde of Image , or the bowing downe thereto ; or that men should attribute more reuerence vnto any kinde of Image ( whether of God or man , Christ or his Crosse so supposed to be ) then vnto the meanest member of Christ vpon the face of the earth ( yea the vilest man that is , hauing a deeper Character and impression of God , then the colourings , caruings , or works of any mortall man whatsoeuer ) : or finally , if euer they did capitally inioyne , that men should esteeme , that to be the very true and proper person or manhood of Christ , which before the speaking afew words they cōfesse was no better then Bakers bread . In any of these cases wee pronounce and challenge their Successiō to be extinguished & as vtterly dead as euer Corps was whē the soul was departed . And that euery such Successor was no better the Successour of Peter , then darkenes is the Successour of the light , death the Successour of life , and Antichrist the Successor of Iesus Christ . But admit none of these Doctrines were euer taught in that Chaire from the first to the last , ( which that is might bee true , no doubt all that euer writ or reported to the contrary would gladly be found lyars ) yet will not the maine conclusion follow therevpon , vpon , vnlesse all the former Linkes of the Chaine bee firme and inviolable : which if ( Christian Reader ) you find farre otherwise ; then iudge how it concernes you to beware how you venter the waight of your saluation thereupon : least as the people of Israel leaning on the Staffe of Egypt did find it to bee but Reed ; so you bearing your selfe vpon this Chaine , doo in the end , when it is too late , find it to bee made of Rushes : and while out of an hope to bee thereby haled vp to Heauen , you suffer your selfe to bee hoysted out of that protection which God hath lent you vpon earth , you fall in the mid-way without recouery . Which Iudgement , God of his goodnesse keepe you and me from : and so Christian Reader commending these my paines vnto your seruice in the Lord : in him I leaue you . FINIS . Notes, typically marginal, from the original text Notes for div A02400-e190 1 Psalme ●● 2 Esay . ● . 3 Esay . 49. 4 Psal 45. 5 Psal : 5. 6 Esay . 45.13 . 7 Psal 90 . 1● . 6 Psal . 90.13 . (*) wisd . 14.22 . Arist . pol. 2.2 . Deut. 34.7.10 . Exod. 18. ●1 Deut. 8. ● . 4 ▪ Numb . 11.15 . Ier. 31.31 . &c. Gen. 11● Luk. 12. Wisd ▪ 6.8 . Rom. 1● . 1 1 Pet. ● . 13 . Arist . depor● . an . 4 10. Math. 6. * 1 Kings 3.26 . 1 Cor. 10.13 . * Eccles . 9.10 . 1 Cor. 11.7.9 . Reuel . 1. & . 2. Axioma Theolog. Esay . 3.4 . Hebr. 11. 1 Ioh. 3.12 . Mat. 20.25 . Mat. 28.18 . 1 Cor. 7.24 . Remonstr . Anglice . pag. 249. * Pag. vlt. a Gal. 2. b Ioh. 1.40 Ioh. 20.23 . Leuit. 13. * Theophilact : in Mat. 18.18 . non solum quae solvunt sacerdotes — sed quae et nas — sunt soluta et lig . Reu. 3.7 . Esa . 22.22 . Exod. 4.16 . Act. 14. Gal. 1 . 1● . Gal. 2. Act. 21.18 . Ioh. 19.26 . Reu. 2. Act. ● . Act 13.2 . 2 Cor. 11.28 . Rom. 15. 1 Thes . 4. ● Galat. 5. ● . Act. 15.22 . & 16.4 . Act. 8.4 . Act. 11.2 . 1 Pet. 2.13 . 1 Pet. 5. Leu. 22.24 . Num. 17. Exo. 29.29 . Mat. 12. vlt. Ezch. 18. Num. 11 : 15 Exod. 20.26 . Thes . 2.4 . 1 Pet. 5.13 . Galat. 2.7 . Rom. 15.20 Epist . 1. Chrysost . ad pop . Antioch . Concil . constan . 5. Act. 1. Nyceph . canon . 92. Chrysost . ad Inno. Aeneas Sylu. Coun. Nic. 1 Can. 6. Can. 7. Sozomen . Hist trip . 2.1 . Greg. 1. Lib. 4. epist . 32. 1. Concil . Lat sub . Leon. 10.2 . Hostiensis . 3. Ius Canon . S. 16.1 . q. in gl . 4. Fran. Zabarel : 5. Extrav . Ioh. 22. in glos . 6. Camotensis . 7. Clem. in proem . in glos . 8. Durand . l. 2.9 . Bonif. 8. de maiorat . et ob . 10. Cornel. episc . in orat . ad . Synod in conc . Tryd . 11. Step. Episcop . Petracens . 12. Host : de sentent . excom . 13. Sylv. prier ; contr . Luth. 14. Felinus extrav de constitut . Stat. con . 15 In Conc. Lat. dictū ad pap . Iul. 16. Stella clericorū serm . 111. Esay . 14.13 2 Thes . 2.4 . Decret . 78. Siquis . Guiceardi . Lib. 16.