A plain defence of the Protestant religion, fitted to the meanest capacity being a full confutation of the net for the fishers of men, published by two gentlemen lately gone over to the Church of Rome. Wherein is evidently made appear, that their departure from the Protestant religion was without cause of reason. Written for publick good by L. E. a son of the Church of England, as by law established.
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             A plain defence of the Protestant religion, fitted to the meanest capacity being a full confutation of the net for the fishers of men, published by two gentlemen lately gone over to the Church of Rome. Wherein is evidently made appear, that their departure from the Protestant religion was without cause of reason. Written for publick good by L. E. a son of the Church of England, as by law established.
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           IMPRIMATUR
           .
        
         
           
             Guil.
             Needham
             .
          
           
             Jan.
             26.
             1686
             
             /
             7.
             
          
        
      
       
         
         
           A
           Plain
           DEFENCE
           OF
           THE
           PROTESTANT
           RELIGION
           ,
           Fitted
           to
           the
           Meanest
           Capacity
           :
           Being
           a
           Full
           CONFUTATION
           OF
           THE
           NET
           FOR
           THE
           
             Fishers
             of
             Men
          
           ,
           Published
           by
           two
           Gentlemen
           lately
           gone
           over
           to
           the
           Church
           of
           Rome
           .
        
         
           Wherein
           is
           evidently
           made
           appear
           ,
           that
           their
           departure
           from
           the
           
             Protestant
             Religion
          
           was
           without
           Cause
           or
           Reason
           .
        
         
           Written
           for
           publick
           good
           by
           
             L.
             E.
          
           a
           Son
           of
           the
           Church
           of
           England
           ,
           as
           by
           Law
           Established
           .
        
         
           
             Be
             not
             tossed
             too
             and
             fro
             with
             every
             Wind
             of
             Doctrine
             ,
             by
             the
             sleight
             of
             Men
             ,
             and
             cunning
             Craftiness
             ,
             whereby
             they
             lie
             in
             wait
             to
             deceive
             .
          
           
             Eph.
             4.
             14.
             
          
        
         
           London
           ,
           Printed
           by
           
             S.
             L.
          
           and
           are
           to
           be
           sold
           by
           
             R.
             Taylor
          
           ,
           near
           Stationers-Hall
           ,
           1687.
           
        
         
         
         
         
      
       
         
         
         
           
             To
             Mr.
          
           J.
           C.
           
             and
             Mr.
          
           J.
           M.
           C.
           The
           Authors
           of
           the
           Net
           for
           the
           Fishers
           of
           Men.
           
        
         
           
             Gentlemen
             ,
          
        
         
           I
           Hope
           that
           your
           design
           in
           publishing
           your
           
             little
             Treatise
          
           ,
           was
           a
           
             zealous
             desire
          
           to
           bring
           others
           of
           your
           Country-men
           into
           the
           same
           Church
           which
           you
           have
           made
           your selves
           Members
           of
           ,
           out
           of
           pure
           Love
           to
           their
           Souls
           ,
           which
           you
           (
           I
           suppose
           )
           think
           cannot
           be
           safe
           out
           of
           its
           Communion
           :
           and
           I
           am
           the
           rather
           induced
           to
           believe
           it
           ,
           because
           you
           seem
           so
           confident
           of
           the
           strength
           of
           your
           Arguments
           ,
           that
           in
           the
           
             Epistle
             Dedicatory
          
           ,
           you
           reckon
           them
           unanswerable
           ,
           and
           in
           that
           to
           the
           Reader
           you
           express
           your
           Sence
           of
           them
           to
           be
           very
           high
           .
           This
           I
           take
           to
           be
           an
           effect
           of
           your
           Zeal
           ,
           for
           I
           am
           sure
           it
           
             is
             not
             of
             your
             Knowledg
          
           ,
           and
           I
           would
           charitably
           perswade
           my self
           ,
           that
           you
           love
           the
           Truth
           too
           well
           ,
           to
           pretend
           a
           defence
           of
           what
           you
           know
           is
           Erroneous
           ,
           or
           endeavour
           to
           promote
           the
           Progress
           
           of
           delusions
           ;
           but
           out
           of
           a
           sincere
           Heart
           offer
           the
           Reasons
           which
           prevailed
           with
           you
           to
           a
           Change
           ,
           not
           seeing
           their
           weakness
           ;
           which
           is
           indeed
           so
           
             very
             notorious
          
           ,
           that
           I
           never
           thought
           to
           have
           seen
           them
           published
           ,
           though
           I
           have
           often
           known
           them
           vigorously
           pressed
           in
           
             private
             Discourses
          
           ,
           where
           heat
           and
           unwariness
           may
           let
           them
           pass
           without
           discovering
           that
           there
           is
           
             nothing
             of
             Force
          
           in
           them
           ;
           it
           being
           generally
           the
           Practice
           of
           the
           Romanists
           ,
           but
           especially
           the
           Jesuits
           ,
           to
           have
           
             a
             Set
             of
             Arguments
          
           for
           private
           unstudied
           Adversaries
           ,
           with
           which
           they
           catch
           too
           many
           ,
           who
           because
           they
           carry
           a
           
             specious
             Shew
          
           at
           first
           ,
           examine
           but
           little
           farther
           ,
           
             and
             without
             consulting
             others
          
           ,
           suffer
           themselves
           to
           be
           led
           Captive
           .
        
         
           I
           have
           in
           the
           following
           Treatise
           ,
           according
           to
           your
           Desire
           in
           the
           
             Preface
             ,
             annexed
             my
             Answers
             to
             your
             Queries
          
           ;
           for
           which
           reason
           I
           have
           done
           it
           by
           way
           of
           Dialogue
           ,
           that
           so
           I
           might
           be
           the
           more
           brief
           ,
           and
           omit
           nothing
           of
           what
           you
           offered
           .
        
         
           I
           don't
           doubt
           but
           I
           have
           shewn
           the
           weakness
           of
           every
           particular
           Argument
           ;
           but
           to
           save
           you
           and
           my self
           a
           great
           deal
           of
           Trouble
           ,
           if
           you
           reply
           ,
           I
           
           shall
           here
           take
           notice
           of
           several
           
             gross
             faults
          
           in
           your
           Arguing
           ,
           which
           if
           they
           be
           not
           remedied
           ,
           will
           create
           endless
           difficulties
           .
        
         
           You
           never
           tell
           us
           what
           you
           mean
           by
           the
           word
           Church
           ;
           in
           some
           places
           you
           
           take
           it
           for
           
             the
             Congregation
             of
             the
             Faithful
          
           ,
           in
           others
           for
           a
           Council
           ,
           and
           
           in
           others
           for
           a
           
             particular
             Church
          
           .
        
         
           In
           your
           Allegations
           out
           of
           Scripture
           you
           bring
           many
           Texts
           ,
           which
           indeed
           prove
           nothing
           to
           your
           purpose
           .
           Thus
           in
           a
           question
           of
           the
           
             universal
             Church
          
           ,
           
           you
           bring
           a
           Text
           that
           speaks
           of
           
             a
             particular
             one
          
           ,
           or
           of
           
             every
             private
             Minister
          
           .
           And
           in
           the
           question
           about
           
             Confirmation
             ,
             in
             defence
             of
          
           Oyl
           ,
           and
           Balm
           ,
           you
           cite
           places
           which
           mention
           only
           
           
             Imposition
             of
             Hands
          
           .
        
         
           You
           suppose
           the
           
             Roman
             Church
          
           to
           
           be
           the
           only
           
             Church
             of
             Christ
          
           ,
           without
           any
           Proof
           ,
           which
           is
           plain
           
             begging
             the
             question
          
           ,
           and
           not
           arguing
           :
           So
           in
           other
           places
           you
           
             beg
             the
             question
          
           :
           And
           you
           take
           it
           for
           granted
           that
           Peter
           
             had
             the
             chief
             Charge
             over
             the
          
           
           
             Apostles
             committed
             to
             him
          
           ,
           that
           all
           
             oral
             Tradition
             is
             Apostolical
          
           ,
           that
           
           
             God
             hath
             commanded
             nothing
             concerning
             a
             Liturgy
             in
             an
             unknown
          
           
           Tongue
           :
           and
           that
           because
           Reliques
           
           have
           been
           the
           Instruments
           by
           which
           Miracles
           were
           wrought
           ,
           therefore
           
             they
             must
             be
             Worshipped
          
           .
           
        
         
           You
           
             mistake
             the
             Question
          
           ,
           and
           run
           on
           upon
           a
           Point
           not
           contested
           ;
           which
           is
           arguing
           
             to
             no
             purpose
          
           ,
           nothing
           but
           making
           a
           Puppet
           ,
           and
           knocking
           him
           down
           .
           Thus
           when
           the
           Question
           is
           about
           
             Praying
             in
             an
             unknown
             Tongue
          
           ,
           you
           argue
           for
           the
           lawfullness
           of
           speaking
           
           
             with
             Tongues
          
           ;
           in
           the
           point
           of
           
             Free
             Will
          
           you
           plead
           for
           
             Free
             Will
          
           in
           
             Moral
             actions
          
           ,
           which
           we
           acknowledge
           ,
           when
           the
           question
           is
           about
           those
           Actions
           
           
             that
             are
             Spiritual
          
           :
           again
           you
           argue
           against
           
             Faith
             without
             Works
          
           ,
           when
           the
           question
           is
           ,
           
             whether
             Faith
             alone
          
           
           justifies
           ,
           not
           whether
           Faith
           can
           be
           without
           Works
           ;
           for
           that
           we
           deny
           as
           well
           as
           you
           .
           So
           in
           the
           point
           of
           
             Religious
             Vows
          
           ,
           you
           argue
           for
           the
           lawfullness
           of
           
           Vows
           in
           general
           ,
           when
           the
           Controversy
           is
           about
           those
           
             particular
             Vows
          
           ,
           which
           we
           Condemn
           .
        
         
           You
           quote
           several
           Scriptures
           famous
           ,
           not
           only
           as
           to
           the
           
             particular
             references
          
           ,
           of
           which
           there
           are
           a
           Multitude
           ,
           so
           many
           that
           I
           am
           afraid
           you
           took
           them
           up
           upon
           Trust
           ;
           but
           also
           the
           very
           Texts
           .
           Thus
           you
           make
           St.
           Paul
           call
           Marriage
           a
           Sacrament
           ,
           when
           he
           calls
           it
           only
           
           
           
             a
             Mystery
          
           ;
           so
           you
           have
           falsified
           ,
           Heb.
           
           12
           11.
           and
           several
           
             other
             places
          
           ,
           as
           I
           have
           proved
           in
           the
           Book
           it self
           .
        
         
           I
           might
           add
           several
           Instances
           of
           these
           and
           other
           Particulars
           ,
           such
           as
           your
           taking
           the
           word
           Universal
           in
           three
           several
           Sences
           ,
           and
           yet
           applying
           all
           
           one
           way
           ,
           but
           these
           shall
           suffice
           ,
           and
           I
           am
           in
           hopes
           will
           let
           you
           see
           how
           wretchedly
           your
           
             Pretended
             Fathers
          
           have
           dealt
           with
           you
           ,
           by
           putting
           such
           Arguments
           upon
           you
           ,
           and
           founding
           your
           Faith
           upon
           such
           
             weak
             Grounds
          
           .
        
         
           I
           desire
           you
           would
           not
           take
           it
           ill
           that
           
             I
             attribute
          
           this
           work
           to
           
             some
             of
             them
          
           ,
           and
           do
           so
           
             freely
             tax
          
           you
           with
           not
           seeing
           the
           
             Vanity
             of
             it
          
           ;
           for
           I
           suppose
           you
           are
           Gentlemen
           ,
           whose
           Education
           hath
           engrossed
           your
           time
           to
           
             other
             Matters
          
           ,
           and
           cannot
           therefore
           be
           
             reasonably
             supposed
          
           to
           have
           
             sufficient
             Experience
          
           in
           these
           Points
           to
           make
           you
           able
           to
           discern
           their
           Sophisms
           ,
           and
           
             unconcluding
             Arguments
          
           ,
           which
           they
           have
           
             shamm'd
             upon
             you
          
           for
           convincing
           Reasons
           .
        
         
           If
           you
           are
           convinc'd
           by
           this
           answer
           ,
           I
           shall
           bless
           God
           for
           it
           ;
           if
           not
           ,
           I
           desire
           you
           would
           
             satisfy
             the
             World
          
           why
           you
           are
           not
           :
           But
           don
           't
           follow
           tht
           Methods
           
           of
           some
           
             late
             Writers
          
           ,
           who
           have
           wisely
           withdrawn
           from
           the
           main
           Business
           ,
           and
           only
           cavilled
           at
           a
           word
           or
           two
           ,
           as
           being
           .
           Improper
           ,
           or
           something
           of
           that
           Nature
           ,
           when
           they
           could
           not
           
             answer
             the
             Reasons
          
           of
           their
           Adversaries
           ,
           nor
           
             defend
             their
             own
          
           :
           I
           might
           easily
           have
           done
           so
           by
           you
           ,
           but
           as
           I
           have
           dealt
           
             seriously
             and
             plainly
          
           ,
           I
           expect
           the
           same
           ,
           and
           I
           pray
           God
           send
           us
           his
           
             Holy
             Spirit
          
           to
           lead
           us
           into
           all
           Truth
           .
           I
           am
           ,
        
         
           
             Gentlemen
             ,
          
           
             Your
             very
             humble
             Servant
             ,
             
               L.
               E.
            
             
          
        
      
       
         
         
           TO
           THE
           Reader
           ,
        
         
           
             Courteous
             Reader
             ,
          
        
         
           
             A
             Serious
             Enquiry
          
           and
           search
           after
           Truth
           is
           the
           Duty
           of
           every
           rational
           Creature
           ,
           and
           he
           that
           hath
           an
           
             unfeigned
             desire
          
           to
           find
           it
           ,
           and
           happiness
           in
           it
           ,
           will
           not
           neglect
           any
           
             lawful
             means
          
           to
           arrive
           at
           the
           knowledge
           of
           it
           ;
           seeing
           by
           it
           the
           Mind
           is
           enlightened
           ,
           our
           
             Faith
             regulated
          
           and
           fixed
           ,
           and
           our
           
             actions
             guided
          
           to
           that
           
             true
             felicity
          
           ,
           which
           Crowns
           the
           Soul
           with
           Peace
           here
           ,
           and
           Bliss
           hereafter
           .
           The
           Consideration
           of
           this
           ,
           when
           duly
           weighed
           ,
           can
           never
           fail
           of
           putting
           us
           on
           Enquiry
           ,
           how
           we
           shall
           attain
           it
           .
           The
           Jaylor
           was
           no
           sooner
           awakened
           ,
           but
           he
           puts
           the
           question
           ,
           
             what
             shall
             I
             do
          
           ?
           
           and
           we
           have
           this
           Enoouragement
           to
           prosecute
           the
           Search
           ,
           that
           if
           we
           seek
           ,
           we
           shall
           surely
           find
           ,
           and
           the
           
             Holy
             Spirit
          
           shall
           
             guide
             us
             into
             Truth
          
           .
        
         
         
           Of
           all
           the
           Papers
           lately
           published
           by
           the
           Gentlemen
           of
           the
           Romish
           Church
           ,
           I
           find
           none
           which
           seems
           more
           earnestly
           to
           seek
           Truth
           ,
           than
           this
           which
           I
           have
           here
           answered
           ,
           and
           I
           am
           not
           so
           uncharitable
           as
           to
           doubt
           at
           all
           of
           the
           Sincerity
           of
           the
           Authors
           Profession
           ,
           in
           the
           Epistle
           ;
           but
           I
           must
           say
           they
           have
           not
           taken
           the
           
             right
             Course
          
           ;
           these
           Queries
           should
           have
           been
           put
           before
           they
           turned
           ;
           which
           
             if
             they
             had
          
           ,
           I
           believe
           their
           now
           
             Ghostly
             Fathers
          
           had
           missed
           their
           Proselytes
           ;
           therefore
           I
           desire
           of
           thee
           ,
           Reader
           ,
           that
           if
           any
           Reply
           be
           made
           to
           this
           Treatise
           ,
           or
           if
           some
           Emissaries
           should
           attempt
           thee
           privately
           in
           defence
           of
           what
           I
           have
           here
           answered
           ,
           thou
           wouldest
           
             Suspend
             thy
             Judgment
          
           till
           I
           have
           time
           to
           Reply
           ,
           or
           else
           consult
           some
           
             learned
             Divine
          
           ,
           and
           then
           I
           am
           sure
           there
           is
           
             no
             danger
          
           of
           thy
           Perversion
           ,
           if
           thou
           
             retainest
             a
             sincere
             desire
          
           to
           find
           the
           Truth
           ;
           the
           want
           of
           that
           Caution
           hath
           perverted
           several
           ,
           within
           my
           Knowledge
           ;
           the
           Priests
           industriously
           keeping
           those
           ,
           whom
           they
           design
           upon
           ,
           from
           such
           Helps
           ,
           by
           urging
           the
           plainness
           of
           their
           Arguments
           ,
           which
           often
           catch
           unconsidering
           Persons
           .
        
         
         
           For
           thy
           Benefit
           I
           have
           answered
           
             every
             Argument
          
           ,
           which
           my
           Adversaries
           offer
           ,
           setting
           it
           first
           down
           in
           their
           
             own
             Words
          
           .
           So
           that
           all
           the
           Papist
           speaks
           ,
           is
           the
           words
           of
           their
           Book
           ,
           which
           I
           have
           therefore
           caused
           to
           be
           Printed
           in
           a
           different
           Letter
           ;
           I
           have
           been
           brief
           in
           my
           Answers
           ,
           yet
           plain
           and
           full
           ;
           if
           any
           reply
           be
           made
           ,
           I
           desire
           it
           may
           be
           done
           with
           the
           same
           Calmness
           I
           have
           used
           ,
           and
           without
           running
           from
           the
           question
           ;
           if
           any
           particular
           be
           
             proved
             Erroneous
          
           ,
           I
           here
           promise
           to
           recant
           it
           ,
           for
           I
           write
           
             not
             out
          
           of
           Prejudice
           or
           Passion
           ,
           God
           is
           Witness
           ;
           but
           a
           desire
           to
           find
           the
           Truth
           ;
           and
           I
           shall
           receive
           so
           much
           Satisfaction
           from
           being
           
             better
             informed
          
           ,
           that
           I
           shall
           not
           be
           ashamed
           to
           learn.
           My
           Adversaries
           profess
           the
           same
           .
           I
           beg
           of
           them
           ,
           they
           would
           keep
           to
           it
           ,
           I
           promise
           nothing
           but
           
             plain
             Evidence
          
           of
           Truth
           shall
           prevail
           with
           
             me
             ,
             I
             hope
          
           the
           same
           of
           them
           :
           that
           if
           they
           find
           the
           Motives
           of
           their
           Change
           weak
           and
           frivolous
           ,
           as
           I
           think
           I
           have
           made
           them
           appear
           to
           be
           ,
           they
           will
           not
           be
           ashamed
           to
           make
           
             ●●
             better
          
           .
        
         
           Since
           my
           Answer
           was
           finished
           ,
           there
           came
           forth
           a
           Treatise
           ,
           pretending
           
           to
           
             search
             into
             the
             Grounds
             of
          
           
           Religion
           ,
           which
           is
           much
           to
           the
           
             same
             purpose
          
           with
           that
           I
           have
           here
           answered
           ,
           and
           I
           don't
           know
           any
           
             Material
             passage
          
           in
           it
           but
           what
           thou
           wilt
           find
           resolved
           here
           :
           it
           is
           drest
           up
           with
           a
           little
           more
           Art
           than
           my
           Adversaries
           ,
           and
           consequently
           with
           
             less
             Sincerity
          
           .
        
         
           One
           of
           the
           great
           Charges
           which
           they
           draw
           up
           against
           us
           is
           ,
           That
           we
           follow
           the
           
             Private
             Spirit
          
           ;
           a
           word
           which
           they
           make
           much
           use
           of
           ,
           
           but
           
             I
             don't
             know
          
           what
           they
           mean
           by
           it
           ;
           if
           they
           intend
           to
           blame
           us
           for
           
             expecting
             the
             assistance
             of
             the
             Spirit
             of
             God
             ,
             in
             teaching
             ,
             and
             instructing
             us
          
           ;
           let
           them
           prove
           that
           God
           hath
           
             not
             promised
             it
          
           ,
           and
           we
           are
           
             not
             to
             expect
             it
          
           ,
           if
           they
           can
           :
           but
           
             if
             they
             mean
          
           (
           as
           I
           suppose
           )
           
             the
             believing
             nothing
             but
             what
             Sence
             and
             Reason
             tells
             us
             is
             from
             God
          
           ;
           if
           it
           be
           this
           they
           call
           the
           
             private
             Spirit
          
           ,
           at
           the
           same
           time
           they
           find
           fault
           with
           us
           ,
           they
           
             condemn
             themselves
          
           :
           for
           it
           is
           no
           more
           than
           what
           they
           must
           necessarily
           follow
           in
           Reading
           their
           
             Councils
             ,
             Catechisms
          
           ,
           and
           Fathers
           ,
           or
           in
           hearing
           their
           Preachers
           ;
           
             for
             we
             do
             not
             use
             our
             Reason
             in
             the
             
               examining
               the
               Truth
               of
               what
               God
               hath
               
               said
            
             ;
             but
             in
             examining
             what
             it
             is
             that
             he
             hath
             said
             ;
          
           and
           let
           them
           shew
           us
           another
           way
           to
           come
           to
           the
           
             knowledge
             of
             his
             Will
          
           ;
           and
           they
           will
           do
           more
           than
           their
           
             infallible
             Councils
          
           ever
           thought
           of
           .
        
         
           I
           would
           willingly
           take
           away
           all
           occasion
           of
           
             disputing
             about
             Words
          
           ,
           for
           which
           reason
           I
           desire
           thee
           to
           take
           notice
           ,
           that
           because
           I
           would
           
             not
             puzzle
          
           the
           
             unlearned
             Reader
             with
             hard
             Words
          
           .
           I
           have
           called
           
             several
             Passages
             ,
             METAPHORS
          
           in
           the
           
             61st
             .
             Query
          
           ,
           which
           are
           indeed
           METONYMIES
           ;
           but
           the
           other
           term
           being
           more
           generally
           
             understood
             ,
             I
             chose
          
           to
           use
           it
           ,
           which
           I
           hope
           my
           Adversaries
           will
           take
           notice
           of
           ,
           and
           
             not
             wrangle
          
           about
           the
           Propriety
           of
           the
           Expression
           ,
           when
           there
           is
           
             no
             need
          
           of
           it
           .
        
         
           I
           cannot
           but
           take
           notice
           what
           
             wonderful
             Reverence
          
           my
           Adversaries
           and
           their
           
             Church
             ,
             pretend
          
           to
           have
           for
           the
           Fathers
           ;
           and
           yet
           these
           
             Gentlemen
             ,
             Quer.
          
           73.
           
           
             Charge
             several
          
           of
           them
           with
           Blasphemy
           :
           for
           say
           they
           ,
           
             if
             you
             say
             ,
             Christ
             descended
             into
             the
             Hell
             of
             the
             Damned
             ,
             then
             you
             Blaspheme
             ,
          
           and
           yet
           
             St.
             Austin
             (
             Ser.
          
           120.
           
             de
             tempore
             :
             lib.
          
           12.
           
             de
             Genesi
             ad
             litteram
             c.
          
           33.
           
           
             &
             Epist
          
           .
           57.
           
             ad
             Dardan
             .
             &
             Epist.
          
           59.
           
             ad
             Euo-diam
             
             diam
          
           ,
           and
           
             St.
             Jerome
             (
             Commen
             .
             in
             Zachar.
             c.
             9.
             verse
          
           11.
           )
           teaches
           
             that
             he
             descended
             to
             the
             Hell
             of
             the
             Damned
             ,
          
           even
           to
           
             the
             Hell
             where
          
           Dives
           
             was
             punished
          
           .
           So
           that
           though
           the
           Author
           of
           
             Nubes
             Testium
          
           ,
           P.
           208
           ,
           209.
           censures
           the
           Protestants
           for
           
             rejecting
             the
             Fathers
          
           in
           
             some
             things
          
           ;
           yet
           we
           find
           they
           only
           are
           not
           to
           be
           blamed
           for
           it
           ;
           for
           these
           Gentlemen
           and
           the
           Jesuits
           who
           approved
           their
           Book
           ,
           charge
           them
           with
           Blasphemy
           ;
           which
           is
           a
           something
           bolder
           way
           of
           treating
           them
           ,
           than
           what
           that
           Author
           accuses
           them
           of
           ,
           but
           't
           is
           
             no
             unusual
          
           thing
           with
           them
           ;
           for
           I
           can
           
             make
             it
             appear
          
           ,
           that
           there
           is
           
             not
             one
          
           of
           the
           Fathers
           of
           the
           
             first
             five
             Ages
          
           ,
           nay
           
             scarce
             any
          
           of
           
             later
             Date
          
           ,
           but
           are
           censured
           and
           rejected
           ,
           and
           accused
           of
           Ignorance
           and
           Error
           ,
           by
           the
           greatest
           of
           the
           Romanists
           .
        
         
           I
           will
           trespass
           upon
           thy
           Patience
           no
           longer
           ,
           but
           with
           my
           
             Hearty
             Prayers
          
           to
           the
           
             God
             of
             Truth
          
           ,
           that
           he
           would
           
             remove
             Prejudice
          
           from
           thy
           Heart
           ,
           and
           
             clearly
             discover
          
           the
           
             Truth
             to
             thee
             ,
             as
             it
             is
             in
             Jesus
             .
          
           I
           commend
           thee
           
             to
             God
          
           ,
           and
           rest
           ,
        
         
           
             Thy
             Servant
             ,
             
               L.
               E.
            
             
          
        
      
    
     
       
         
         
           INTRODUCTION
           .
        
         
           IF
           you
           had
           not
           left
           the
           
             State
             of
             the
             Question
          
           wholly
           untouched
           ,
           and
           made
           use
           of
           
             general
             Terms
          
           ,
           without
           explaining
           in
           what
           Sence
           you
           intended
           to
           have
           them
           understood
           ,
           when
           the
           whole
           Controversy
           depended
           upon
           the
           right
           acceptation
           ,
           you
           would
           have
           proceeded
           with
           greater
           Candor
           than
           I
           could
           ever
           yet
           find
           any
           of
           your
           Authors
           shewed
           .
        
         
           Thus
           you
           make
           serveral
           
           Dilemma's
           upon
           the
           Church
           ,
           the
           Visibility
           and
           Unity
           of
           it
           ,
           but
           never
           tell
           us
           what
           you
           mean
           by
           the
           Church
           :
           But
           seing
           you
           speak
           of
           the
           
             Church
             of
             Christ
             in
             general
          
           ,
           in
           your
           
             first
             Dilemma
          
           ,
           I
           suppose
           you
           inténded
           that
           Church
           ,
           which
           is
           thus
           defin'd
           by
           the
           
             Catechism
             ad
             Parochos
          
           out
           of
           St.
           Austin
           ,
           (
           Par.
           1.
           
           Pag.
           77.
           
           Edit
           .
           Lug.
           ann
           .
           1676
           )
           
             The
             Church
             is
             the
             faithful
             People
             dispersed
             throughout
             the
             whole
             World.
             
          
        
         
           Now
           in
           this
           Sence
           ,
           I
           answer
           to
           your
           
           DILEMMA's
           by
           way
           of
           DIALOGUE
           .
        
         
           
             PA.
             
          
           
             1.
             
             God
             hath
             a
             Church
             in
             the
             World
             ,
             or
             he
             hath
             not
             .
          
        
         
           
             Pro.
             
          
           
             He
             hath
             .
          
        
         
           
             Pa.
             
          
           
             Then
             yours
             is
             the
             true
             Church
             ,
             or
             it
             is
             not
             .
          
        
         
           
             Pro.
             
          
           
             If
             by
             
               our
               Church
            
             you
             mean
             those
             who
             in
             opposition
             to
             the
             Roman
             are
             termed
             the
             Reformed
             ;
             I
             answer
             that
             it
             
               doth
               not
            
             follow
             that
             they
             are
             either
             the
             
               true
               Church
            
             ,
             or
             not
             :
             for
             they
             may
             be
             and
             are
             
               a
               part
               of
               it
            
             ,
             and
             thus
             in
             the
             name
             of
             all
             Protestants
             ,
             I
             affirm
             we
             are
             
               a
               part
               of
               the
               true
               Church
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             Pa.
             
          
           
             If
             yours
             is
             the
             true
             Christian
             Church
             ,
             then
             it
             must
             have
             these
             following
             Marks
             ,
             
               Visibility
               ,
               Unity
               ,
               Universality
               ,
               Sanctity
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             Pro.
             
          
           
             I
             told
             you
             before
             we
             are
             not
             the
             whole
             ,
             but
             
               a
               part
            
             of
             the
             true
             Church
             ,
             for
             we
             dare
             not
             ,
             as
             
               you
               do
               ,
               exclude
            
             all
             from
             Salvation
             ,
             who
             are
             not
             in
             
               all
               things
            
             of
             our
             Profession
             :
             and
             therefore
             to
             find
             whether
             we
             be
             
               a
               part
               of
               it
            
             or
             no
             ,
             we
             are
             not
             to
             look
             for
             
               these
               Marks
            
             ,
             but
             for
             the
             Conformity
             of
             our
             Doctrines
             with
             the
             
               Word
               of
               God
            
             ;
             
             or
             if
             we
             should
             allow
             these
             for
             Marks
             of
             the
             
               true
               Church
            
             ,
             the
             way
             to
             know
             whether
             we
             be
             
               part
               of
               the
               true
               Church
            
             or
             no
             ,
             is
             to
             enquire
             whether
             we
             teach
             the
             same
             Doctrine
             ,
             which
             we
             are
             to
             prove
             by
             the
             
               Holy
               Scriptures
            
             ,
             according
             to
             that
             of
             St.
             Austin
             ,
             (
             De
             Unit.
             Eccl.
             c.
             16.
             )
             
               Let
               them
               shew
               whether
               they
               have
               the
               Church
               only
               by
               the
               Canonical
               Books
               of
               the
               divine
               Scriptures
               .
            
             But
             we
             deny
             these
             to
             be
             the
             Marks
             of
             the
             
               true
               Church
            
             .
          
        
         
           
             Of
             Visibility
             ,
             a
             Mark
             of
             the
             Church
             .
          
           
             
               PA.
               
            
             
               2.
               
               The
               House
               of
               our
               Lord
               shall
               be
               prepared
               on
               the
               top
               of
               Mountains
               ,
               or
               it
               shall
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               It
               shall
               ,
               Isa.
               2.
               2.
               
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Why
               then
               do
               you
               deny
               that
               the
               Church
               shall
               be
               always
               visible
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               Because
               that
               Text
               
                 (
                 Isai.
              
               2.
               2.
               
               )
               is
               no
               Promise
               of
               a
               
                 Perpetual
                 visibility
              
               ,
               but
               only
               of
               a
               time
               when
               it
               
                 shall
                 be
                 so
              
               ,
               and
               so
               it
               was
               in
               the
               
                 Primitive
                 times
              
               ,
               but
               it
               
                 doth
                 not
                 say
              
               ,
               it
               shall
               
                 never
                 cease
              
               to
               
                 be
                 so
                 visible
              
               .
               Where
               by
               visible
               I
               mean
               ,
               that
               
                 the
                 true
                 Church
                 shall
                 be
                 always
                 in
                 sight
                 ,
                 so
                 as
                 by
                 its
                 external
                 Glory
                 to
                 be
                 known
                 to
                 be
                 the
                 true
                 Church
                 :
              
               and
               this
               that
               Text
               doth
               
                 not
                 promise
              
               ;
               for
               it
               will
               not
               follow
               ,
               that
               because
               the
               Church
               shall
               be
               so
               ,
               therefore
               it
               shall
               be
               always
               so
               ;
               and
               if
               it
               be
               not
               
                 always
                 so
              
               ,
               it
               can
               be
               
                 no
                 mark
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               3.
               
               A
               City
               seated
               on
               an
               Hill
               can
               be
               hid
               ,
               or
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               It
               cannot
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Then
               the
               Church
               cannot
               be
               invisible
               .
               Mat.
               5.
               14.
               
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               That
               doth
               not
               follow
               :
               for
               in
               the
               Judgment
               of
               
                 divers
                 Fathers
              
               ,
               this
               place
               is
               not
               spoken
               
                 of
                 the
                 Church
              
               ,
               but
               
                 the
                 Apostles
              
               ,
               or
               the
               
                 good
                 Works
              
               of
               Christians
               .
               But
               if
               it
               be
               understood
               of
               the
               Church
               ,
               all
               that
               it
               proves
               is
               ,
               that
               it
               
                 cannot
                 be
                 hid
              
               ,
               as
               long
               as
               it
               is
               seated
               upon
               
                 an
                 Hill
              
               ;
               but
               it
               doth
               not
               follow
               that
               it
               shall
               be
               
                 always
                 seated
                 there
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               4.
               
               Christ
               either
               founded
               a
               Church
               on
               Earth
               that
               all
               Nations
               may
               be
               edified
               therein
               ,
               or
               he
               did
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               He
               did
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Why
               then
               do
               you
               say
               the
               Church
               may
               be
               invisible
               ,
               since
               all
               Nations
               cannot
               be
               edified
               in
               a
               Church
               unseen
               ?
               Isai.
               2.
               2.
               
               All
               Nations
               shall
               flow
               unto
               her
               ,
               Psal.
               86.
               9.
               
               All
               
               Nations
               whatsoever
               thou
               hast
               made
               ,
               shall
               come
               and
               adore
               before
               thee
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               Because
               there
               is
               
                 no
                 Promise
              
               that
               the
               Church
               shall
               be
               
                 evident
                 to
                 all
                 Nations
              
               at
               
                 all
                 times
              
               ,
               but
               that
               there
               
                 shall
                 come
                 a
                 time
              
               when
               it
               
                 shall
                 be
                 so
              
               :
               but
               it
               doth
               
                 not
                 say
              
               it
               shall
               be
               so
               always
               ;
               but
               it
               shall
               be
               evident
               so
               as
               to
               
                 edify
                 all
                 Nations
              
               in
               
                 God's
                 time
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               5.
               
               A
               Man
               for
               not
               hearing
               the
               Church
               ,
               is
               termed
               in
               Scripture
               an
               Heathen
               ,
               and
               a
               Publican
               or
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               
                 He
                 is
              
               .
               Mat.
               18.
               18.
               
               He
               that
               will
               not
               hear
               the
               Church
               ,
               let
               him
               be
               to
               thee
               as
               an
               Heathen
               or
               Publican
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               How
               then
               shall
               a
               Man
               be
               termed
               an
               Heathen
               or
               Publican
               for
               not
               hearing
               a
               Church
               ,
               that
               was
               not
               visible
               ,
               or
               yet
               extant
               in
               the
               World
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               This
               Text
               is
               
                 nothing
                 to
                 the
                 purpose
              
               ,
               and
               that
               upon
               two
               accounts
               .
            
          
           
             1.
             
             
               Because
               the
            
             question
             is
             ,
             Whether
             the
             true
             Church
             be
             always
             visible
             to
             those
             who
             are
             not
             Members
             of
             it
             ,
             as
             Heathens
             ,
             Infidels
             ,
             
               &c.
               
               Now
            
             this
             Text
             
               speaks
               only
               of
            
             those
             who
             are
             Members
             of
             it
             ;
             
               to
               these
            
             it
             is
             always
             visible
             ,
             but
             not
             to
             those
             .
          
           
             2.
             
             Because
             the
             question
             is
             ,
             whether
             the
             
               Universal
               Church
               be
               always
               visible
            
             ;
             but
             
               this
               Text
            
             speaks
             of
             
               a
               particular
               Congregation
            
             :
             and
             therefore
             is
             
               not
               to
               the
               purpose
            
             ;
             seeing
             if
             it
             proves
             
               any
               Church
               always
               visible
            
             ,
             it
             proves
             
               every
               particular
               Congregation
            
             to
             be
             so
             :
             but
             as
             it
             is
             plain
             that
             
               these
               Arguments
            
             do
             
               not
               prove
            
             that
             the
             Church
             is
             to
             be
             
               always
               visible
            
             ;
             so
             neither
             do
             you
             
               at
               all
               prove
            
             that
             
               if
               it
               were
               so
            
             ,
             it
             would
             be
             
               a
               Mark
            
             of
             the
             
               true
               Church
            
             ,
             seeing
             Pagan
             and
             Jewish
             Churches
             can
             plead
             Visibility
             ,
             and
             yet
             it
             doth
             
               not
               follow
            
             they
             are
             
               the
               true
               Church
            
             ,
             because
             
               they
               have
               it
            
             .
          
        
         
           
             Of
             Unity
             ,
             as
             a
             Mark
             of
             the
             true
             Church
             .
          
           
             
               PA.
               
            
             
               6.
               
               A
               natural
               Unity
               and
               Connection
               of
               the
               parts
               among
               themselves
               ,
               and
               to
               the
               Head
               is
               necessary
               for
               the
               Conservation
               of
               the
               Body
               ,
               or
               it
               is
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               It
               is
               .
            
          
           
             
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               If
               it
               be
               ,
               Why
               is
               that
               natural
               Connection
               proper
               to
               a
               natural
               Body
               ,
               and
               not
               a
               Spiritual
               Connection
               proper
               to
               a
               Spiritual
               Body
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               A
               Spiritual
               Connection
               is
               proper
               to
               a
               Spiritual
               Body
               :
               
                 but
                 this
                 is
              
               nothing
               to
               the
               Purpose
               ,
               
                 as
                 a
              
               proof
               that
               Unity
               
                 is
                 a
              
               Mark
               
                 of
                 the
              
               true
               Church
               :
               for
               this
               Connection
               
                 of
                 the
              
               Spiritual
               Body
               
                 must
                 be
                 an
              
               Union
               and
               Connection
               of
               each
               part
               in
               sound
               Doctrine
               ;
               
                 now
                 we
                 must
              
               know
               what
               Doctrine
               is
               sound
               ,
               
                 before
                 we
              
               can
               know
               whether
               the
               Parts
               be
               united
               
                 in
                 it
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               7.
               
               Christ
               promised
               that
               there
               should
               be
               Unity
               in
               his
               Church
               ,
               John
               10.
               16.
               or
               he
               did
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               He
               did
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               If
               he
               did
               ,
               why
               do
               you
               deny
               Unity
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               We
               do
               not
               deny
               it
               ,
               we
               maintain
               it
               :
               but
               we
               
                 deny
                 it
              
               to
               be
               
                 a
                 Mark
              
               of
               the
               Church
               :
               which
               
                 it
                 cannot
                 be
              
               ,
               seeing
               
                 this
                 Unity
              
               must
               be
               either
               
                 in
                 true
                 Doctrine
              
               or
               
                 in
                 false
              
               ;
               it
               
                 cannot
                 be
                 in
                 false
              
               :
               if
               it
               be
               in
               true
               ,
               we
               must
               
                 first
                 know
              
               which
               
                 is
                 true
              
               ,
               before
               we
               
                 can
                 know
              
               whether
               it
               be
               
                 the
                 Unity
                 Christ
                 promised
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               8.
               
               Unity
               is
               either
               requisite
               in
               Gods
               Church
               ,
               or
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               It
               is
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Why
               do
               you
               then
               deny
               the
               necessity
               of
               Unity
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               
                 We
                 do
              
               not
               deny
               
                 it
                 to
                 be
              
               necessary
               ,
               we
               maintain
               
                 that
                 without
              
               Unity
               ,
               in
               all
               points
               of
               Faith
               ,
               
                 there
                 can
                 be
              
               no
               Church
               ;
               
                 but
                 it
                 will
                 not
              
               follow
               ,
               that
               because
               
                 it
                 is
              
               necessary
               ,
               
                 it
                 is
                 a
              
               Mark
               whereby
               Heathens
               may
               know
               the
               Church
               ;
               
                 seeing
                 other
              
               pretended
               Churches
               have
               Unity
               
                 as
                 well
                 as
                 the
              
               Christian
               :
               and
               nothing
               
                 can
                 be
              
               a
               Mark
               
                 which
                 is
              
               not
               proper
               to
               it
               alone
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               9.
               
               Christ
               when
               he
               Prayed
               ,
               his
               Prayer
               took
               effect
               ,
               or
               it
               did
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               It
               did
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               If
               it
               did
               ,
               then
               Christs
               People
               are
               one
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               
                 They
                 are
                 so
              
               .
               What
               then
               ?
               
                 but
                 it
                 doth
              
               not
               thence
               follow
               that
               Unity
               is
               or
               can
               be
               a
               Mark
               
                 to
                 know
              
               the
               Church
               
                 by
                 .
                 Where
                 pray
              
               remember
               
                 I
                 speak
                 of
              
               such
               a
               Mark
               ,
               whereby
               those
               who
               are
               not
               of
               the
               Church
               may
               know
               her
               ,
               
                 to
                 be
                 the
              
               true
               Church
               .
            
          
        
         
           
           
             Of
             Universality
             ,
             as
             a
             Mark
             of
             the
             true
             Church
             .
          
           
             
               PA.
               
            
             
               10.
               
               To
               be
               Universal
               or
               Coexstent
               with
               Time
               and
               Place
               ,
               is
               a
               Mark
               of
               the
               true
               Church
               ,
               or
               it
               is
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               
                 I
                 could
                 wish
                 you
                 would
                 a
              
               little
               explain
               
                 what
                 you
              
               mean
               by
               those
               Terms
               ;
               
                 if
                 you
              
               mean
               as
               Bellarmine
               
                 and
                 the
              
               Catechism
               ad
               Parochos
               ,
               
                 that
                 to
                 be
              
               called
               Universal
               ,
               
                 is
                 a
              
               Mark
               
                 of
                 the
              
               True
               Church
               ;
               
                 or
                 if
                 you
              
               intend
               that
               to
               be
               existent
               every
               where
               ,
               
                 be
                 a
              
               Mark
               
                 of
                 it
                 ,
                 I
                 answer
                 it
                 is
                 not
                 .
              
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Why
               then
               does
               the
               Scripture
               say
               ,
               Matth.
               28.
               20.
               
               Go
               ye
               teach
               all
               Nations
               ,
               
                 &c.
                 
                 And
              
               behold
               I
               am
               with
               you
               even
               to
               the
               Consummation
               of
               the
               World.
               
                 And
                 again
                 ,
                 Ephes.
              
               4.
               12.
               
               He
               gave
               some
               Apostles
               ,
               &c.
               to
               the
               Consummation
               of
               the
               Saints
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               The
               Scripture
               
                 says
                 so
                 ,
                 because
              
               under
               the
               Gospel
               the
               Church
               
                 was
                 not
              
               limited
               
                 to
                 the
              
               Nation
               of
               the
               Jews
               ,
               but
               all
               Nations
               
                 might
                 be
              
               Members
               
                 of
                 it
                 :
                 and
                 there
                 should
                 be
                 a
              
               Church
               
                 to
                 the
              
               end
               of
               the
               World
               ;
               
                 but
                 it
              
               doth
               not
               
                 therefore
                 say
              
               this
               Church
               
                 should
                 be
              
               in
               all
               Nations
               ,
               at
               all
               times
               ,
               much
               less
               doth
               it
               
                 say
                 that
              
               its
               being
               so
               is
               a
               Mark
               
                 that
                 it
                 is
                 the
              
               True
               Church
               .
               
                 Besides
                 that
              
               Text
               
                 of
                 St.
              
               Paul
               ,
               
                 Ephes.
                 4.
                 12
                 ,
                 13.
                 is
                 spoken
                 of
                 the
              
               perfection
               of
               the
               Saints
               in
               Holiness
               ,
               
                 not
                 of
                 the
              
               consummating
               their
               Number
               ,
               tho'
               if
               it
               were
               ,
               
                 it
                 says
              
               nothing
               
                 of
                 the
              
               Name
               Universal
               ,
               
                 or
                 the
              
               Churches
               existing
               every
               where
               ,
               
                 being
                 a
              
               Mark
               to
               know
               it
               by
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               11.
               
               The
               Church
               of
               God
               is
               either
               Universal
               ,
               or
               coexistent
               with
               all
               time
               ,
               or
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               
                 It
                 is
                 .
                 John
              
               14
               ,
               15
               ,
               16.
               
               The
               Comforter
               shall
               abide
               with
               you
               for
               ever
               .
               Luke
               1.
               33.
               
               He
               shall
               Reign
               in
               the
               House
               of
               Jacob
               for
               ever
               ,
               and
               of
               his
               Kingdom
               there
               shall
               be
               no
               end
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               If
               it
               be
               ,
               why
               do
               you
               deny
               Universality
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               
                 Before
                 you
                 took
              
               Universality
               in
               one
               Sense
               ,
               
                 now
                 in
              
               another
               ,
               That
               the
               Church
               shall
               abide
               for
               ever
               ;
               
                 and
                 this
              
               Universality
               we
               do
               not
               deny
               ;
               
                 but
                 we
              
               deny
               
                 it
                 to
                 be
                 a
              
               Mark
               
                 of
                 the
              
               true
               Church
               ,
               
                 and
                 that
                 for
              
               this
               Reason
               ,
               
                 because
                 it
              
               cannot
               be
               known
               what
               Church
               shall
               endure
               for
               ever
               ,
               
                 till
                 the
              
               end
               of
               all
               things
               ;
               
                 matter
                 of
              
               Future
               Duration
               being
               impossible
               to
               be
               known
               ,
               
                 till
                 the
              
               time
               is
               finished
               ;
               
                 for
                 how
                 can
                 you
                 know
              
               before-hand
               
                 what
                 will
              
               endure
               for
               ever
               ?
               the
               true
               Church
               will
               endure
               for
               ever
               ;
               
                 but
                 you
                 must
                 first
              
               
               know
               
                 which
                 of
                 all
                 the
              
               Pretenders
               to
               it
               is
               the
               true
               ,
               
                 before
                 you
              
               can
               know
               which
               shall
               endure
               for
               ever
               .
               
                 This
                 therefore
              
               cannot
               be
               a
               Mark
               of
               the
               true
               Church
               .
               
                 For
                 the
              
               Marks
               
                 of
                 a
                 thing
                 are
              
               always
               present
               ,
               
                 but
                 this
              
               Duration
               is
               not
               present
               ,
               but
               to
               come
               ,
               
                 and
                 therefore
              
               cannot
               be
               a
               Mark.
               
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               12.
               
               Christ's
               Church
               is
               Universal
               or
               co-existent
               with
               all
               places
               ,
               or
               it
               is
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               You
               seem
               
                 here
                 to
              
               mean
               that
               Christ's
               Church
               is
               dispersed
               over
               all
               the
               World
               ,
               in
               all
               places
               ;
               
                 and
                 if
                 so
                 ,
                 I
                 say
                 it
                 is
                 not
                 .
              
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               How
               then
               can
               it
               be
               true
               ,
               that
               their
               sound
               went
               over
               all
               the
               Earth
               ,
               or
               kow
               can
               all
               Nations
               be
               taught
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               All
               Nations
               shall
               be
               taught
               ;
               
                 but
                 there
                 is
                 no
              
               necessity
               
                 that
                 they
                 should
                 be
                 so
                 at
              
               all
               times
               ;
               
                 or
                 that
                 the
              
               Church
               
                 should
                 be
                 always
              
               dispersed
               in
               all
               Nations
               ;
               
                 So
                 that
                 this
                 can
                 be
              
               no
               Mark
               ,
               
                 because
                 a
              
               Mark
               must
               be
               always
               evident
               ,
               but
               
                 it
                 was
              
               not
               evident
               
                 in
                 the
              
               beginning
               of
               Christianity
               ,
               
                 nor
                 is
                 not
              
               now
               in
               many
               places
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               13.
               
               The
               Church
               of
               Christ
               is
               either
               Universal
               or
               Catholick
               ,
               or
               it
               is
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               
                 What
                 mean
                 you
                 by
                 its
                 being
              
               Universal
               ,
               or
               Catholick
               ?
               
                 If
                 you
              
               mean
               as
               we
               do
               in
               the
               Creed
               ,
               that
               it
               comprehends
               all
               the
               true
               Professors
               of
               the
               Gospel
               ,
               
                 I
                 say
                 it
                 is
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Why
               then
               do
               you
               renounce
               Universality
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               
                 We
                 do
                 not
                 renounce
                 it
                 ,
                 we
                 only
                 say
                 it
                 is
              
               no
               Mark
               :
               
                 for
                 seeing
                 the
              
               Catholick
               Church
               ,
               
                 is
                 that
              
               Church
               which
               comprehends
               all
               true
               Christians
               ,
               
                 we
                 must
              
               first
               know
               
                 who
                 are
              
               true
               Christians
               ,
               
                 before
                 we
                 can
              
               know
               ,
               what
               Church
               comprehends
               them
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             Of
             Sanctity
             ,
             as
             a
             Mark
             of
             the
             true
             Church
             .
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               14.
               
               The
               Church
               of
               Christ
               is
               eminent
               for
               Sanctity
               of
               Discipline
               and
               Dectrine
               ,
               or
               it
               is
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               It
               is
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Why
               then
               do
               you
               deny
               Sanctity
               in
               the
               Church
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               
                 We
                 do
                 not
              
               deny
               it
               ,
               we
               affirm
               
                 it
                 ,
                 that
                 is
              
               ,
               Holiness
               and
               Purity
               of
               Doctrine
               ,
               
                 to
                 be
              
               the
               mark
               of
               the
               true
               Church
               :
               
                 and
                 we
              
               desire
               
                 it
                 may
                 be
              
               tryed
               
                 whether
                 we
                 are
                 not
              
               of
               the
               true
               Church
               
                 by
                 that
              
               Rule
               .
            
          
           
             
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               15.
               
               The
               Church
               of
               Christ
               is
               either
               Sanctified
               ,
               or
               She
               is
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               The
               Church
               of
               the
               Elect
               is
               Sanctified
               ,
               
                 but
                 the
              
               Church
               of
               visible
               Professors
               is
               
                 not
                 ;
                 yet
                 the
              
               Doctrine
               of
               
                 it
                 is
                 indeed
              
               Holy
               ,
               
                 as
                 to
                 the
                 Foundation
                 ,
                 in
                 which
                 respect
                 ,
                 we
                 do
                 not
                 deny
              
               Sanctity
               
                 in
                 the
              
               Church
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               16.
               
               The
               Church
               of
               Christ
               is
               manifested
               to
               be
               Holy
               by
               the
               Grace
               of
               Miracles
               ,
               or
               she
               is
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               The
               Grace
               of
               Miracles
               
                 is
                 a
              
               new
               Grace
               ,
               which
               I
               understand
               not
               :
               
                 and
                 I
                 believe
              
               ,
               neither
               do
               you
               ;
               
                 but
                 for
                 the
              
               gift
               of
               Miracles
               ,
               
                 I
                 say
                 that
                 is
              
               not
               a
               Mark
               
                 of
                 the
              
               Sanctity
               
                 of
                 the
              
               Church
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Why
               then
               did
               Christ
               say
               ,
               
                 Joh.
                 14.
                 12.
                 
                 &c.
              
               He
               that
               believes
               in
               me
               ,
               the
               Works
               that
               I
               do
               he
               shall
               do
               ,
               and
               greater
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               Christ
               
                 said
                 so
                 ,
                 because
                 he
              
               gave
               the
               Holy
               Spirit
               
                 to
                 his
              
               Followers
               ,
               
                 and
                 a
              
               power
               
                 of
                 working
              
               Miracles
               as
               long
               
                 as
                 it
                 was
              
               necessary
               ;
               
                 but
                 it
                 doth
              
               not
               follow
               ,
               
                 that
                 it
                 is
              
               so
               always
               ,
               much
               less
               
                 doth
                 it
              
               follow
               ,
               
                 that
                 they
                 are
              
               a
               Mark
               
                 to
                 know
                 the
              
               Holiness
               
                 of
                 the
              
               Church
               
                 by
                 ;
                 seeing
              
               Antichrist
               
                 is
                 to
                 do
              
               miracles
               ,
               
                 and
                 the
              
               Holy
               Fathers
               
                 tell
                 us
              
               ,
               Hereticks
               did
               many
               ,
               
                 yet
                 their
              
               miracles
               
                 will
                 not
                 prove
                 the
              
               Sanctity
               
                 of
                 their
              
               Church
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               17.
               
               Christ
               either
               granted
               true
               Believers
               the
               Grace
               of
               Casting
               out
               Devils
               ,
               or
               he
               did
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               Christ
               did
               not
               grant
               that
               Power
               to
               all
               true
               Believers
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Why
               then
               do
               you
               belye
               the
               Scriptures
               ?
               Mar.
               16
               ,
               17.
               
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               We
               do
               not
               belye
               them
               :
               that
               Text
               is
               
                 not
                 spoken
              
               of
               all
               ,
               at
               all
               times
               ,
               that
               do
               believe
               :
               and
               this
               you
               
                 must
                 grant
              
               ,
               or
               else
               affirm
               ,
               that
               
                 none
                 are
                 saved
              
               ,
               but
               them
               who
               
                 work
                 Miracles
              
               :
               which
               is
               absurd
               and
               false
               .
               That
               Power
               was
               given
               in
               the
               Beginning
               of
               the
               Church
               ,
               because
               it
               was
               necessary
               ,
               but
               you
               cannot
               prove
               it
               so
               now
               :
               However
               we
               do
               not
               deny
               that
               God
               can
               
                 work
                 miracles
              
               by
               the
               Hands
               of
               his
               
                 Faithful
                 Servants
              
               ,
               when
               he
               pleases
               ,
               but
               we
               do
               deny
               that
               they
               either
               are
               ,
               or
               
                 can
                 be
              
               a
               mark
               to
               find
               the
               
                 true
                 Church
              
               ,
               or
               its
               Holiness
               by
               :
               and
               you
               cannot
               prove
               that
               God
               ever
               intended
               or
               promised
               that
               they
               should
               
                 be
                 so
              
               .
               The
               
                 true
                 way
              
               ,
               to
               find
               the
               Church
               ,
               is
               to
               examine
               the
               Holyness
               ,
               
               and
               Purity
               of
               its
               Doctrine
               ,
               and
               
                 on
                 this
              
               we
               rest
               our
               Cause
               ,
               that
               ours
               is
               Pure
               and
               Holy
               ,
               and
               therefore
               we
               are
               
                 of
                 the
                 true
                 Church
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               18.
               
               Your
               Church
               hath
               these
               abovementioned
               Marks
               ,
               or
               she
               hath
               not
               :
               and
               if
               not
               ,
               she
               is
               false
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               That
               doth
               not
               follow
               ,
               for
               they
               are
               not
               the
               marks
               of
               the
               
                 true
                 Church
              
               ,
               as
               I
               have
               
                 proved
                 ;
                 Holiness
              
               indeed
               is
               
                 a
                 mark
              
               of
               the
               
                 true
                 Church
              
               ,
               that
               is
               ,
               
                 Holiness
                 of
                 Doctrine
              
               ,
               and
               that
               we
               affirm
               we
               have
               ,
               which
               is
               a
               
                 sufficient
                 Answer
              
               to
               the
               rest
               of
               your
               Queries
               ;
               however
               let
               us
               hear
               them
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               19.
               
               Your
               Church
               hath
               been
               apparent
               or
               visible
               ,
               ever
               since
               Christ
               ,
               or
               it
               hath
               not
               ;
               and
               if
               not
               ,
               she
               is
               false
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               Our
               Church
               
                 hath
                 been
              
               always
               visible
               to
               its
               Members
               :
               
                 though
                 as
                 a
                 distinct
                 Congregation
              
               ,
               not
               to
               those
               who
               were
               not
               Members
               of
               her
               ,
               
                 but
                 it
                 is
                 not
              
               therefore
               true
               ,
               
                 that
                 it
                 is
              
               false
               :
               for
               visibility
               ,
               
                 I
                 have
              
               proved
               not
               
                 to
                 be
                 a
              
               mark
               
                 of
                 the
              
               true
               Church
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               20.
               
               Your
               Church
               either
               did
               appear
               before
               Luther
               and
               Calvin
               ,
               or
               it
               did
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               It
               did
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               If
               she
               did
               ,
               in
               what
               Kingdom
               or
               Nation
               was
               your
               Doctrine
               Preached
               ,
               or
               by
               whom
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               Our
               Doctrine
               was
               Preached
               by
               Christ
               and
               his
               Apostles
               ,
               
                 and
                 by
                 the
              
               ancient
               Fathers
               ,
               in
               all
               Nations
               ,
               where-ever
               the
               Gospel
               came
               ,
               
                 and
                 this
                 we
                 are
              
               ready
               
                 to
                 prove
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               21.
               
               
                 Martin
                 Luther
              
               and
               
                 John
                 Calvin
              
               were
               the
               first
               Founders
               of
               your
               Church
               ,
               or
               they
               were
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               They
               were
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               If
               not
               ;
               produce
               any
               that
               ever
               professed
               '
               the
               same
               Articles
               with
               you
               before
               them
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               
                 We
                 do
              
               produce
               Christ
               and
               his
               Apostles
               
                 with
                 the
              
               general
               Consent
               
                 of
                 the
              
               Fathers
               
                 for
                 the
              
               first
               five
               Hundred
               Years
               after
               Christ
               ;
               
                 and
                 even
                 when
                 the
              
               Church
               was
               hid
               
                 in
                 Babylon
                 ,
                 and
              
               fled
               into
               the
               Wilderness
               ,
               
                 from
                 the
              
               Tyranny
               of
               Antichrist
               ,
               
                 there
                 were
              
               Multiiudes
               who
               professed
               the
               same
               as
               we
               do
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               22.
               
               Luther
               and
               Calvin
               either
               separated
               themselves
               from
               the
               World
               ,
               or
               they
               did
               not
               ;
               if
               they
               did
               ,
               then
               they
               departed
               from
               the
               visible
               Christiàn
               Religion
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               I
               never
               heard
               before
               ,
               that
               
                 to
                 depart
                 from
                 the
                 
                 World
                 ,
              
               which
               is
               the
               Duty
               of
               every
               
                 good
                 Christian
              
               ,
               was
               
                 to
                 depart
                 from
                 the
                 Christian
                 Religion
                 :
              
               it
               was
               always
               accounted
               a
               
                 Cleaving
                 to
                 it
              
               ;
               but
               I
               suppose
               you
               mean
               ,
               
                 they
                 departed
                 from
                 the
                 Church
                 ,
                 or
                 they
                 did
                 not
                 ,
                 and
              
               then
               
                 I
                 answer
              
               ,
               they
               did
               not
               ;
               they
               departed
               not
               from
               the
               
                 Christian
                 Church
              
               ,
               nay
               ,
               not
               from
               the
               
                 Roman
                 Church
              
               ;
               but
               only
               from
               the
               
                 errors
                 of
                 it
              
               :
               for
               we
               still
               profess
               a
               Communion
               with
               all
               the
               Orthodox
               ,
               living
               in
               the
               Communion
               of
               that
               Church
               ;
               nay
               at
               
                 that
                 time
              
               the
               Church
               was
               visible
               in
               the
               Waldenses
               ,
               &c.
               from
               whom
               they
               
                 separated
                 not
              
               :
               so
               that
               they
               
                 departed
                 not
              
               from
               the
               
                 visible
                 Church
              
               ,
               though
               if
               they
               had
               ,
               they
               had
               done
               no
               more
               than
               what
               the
               
                 People
                 of
                 God
                 are
                 commanded
              
               to
               do
               ,
               in
               obedience
               to
               that
               Call
               ,
               Rev.
               18.
               4.
               
               
                 Come
                 out
                 of
              
               Babylon
               ,
               
                 my
                 People
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               If
               they
               did
               not
               ,
               who
               joyned
               with
               them
               ,
               or
               to
               whom
               did
               they
               adhere
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               All
               who
               obeyed
               that
               
                 Call
                 of
                 God
              
               ,
               whose
               
                 Eyes
                 God
              
               opened
               to
               see
               ,
               and
               whose
               Hearts
               he
               encouraged
               to
               leave
               those
               Corruptions
               they
               lived
               under
               :
               
                 all
                 these
              
               joined
               
                 with
                 them
              
               :
               and
               for
               the
               
                 other
                 question
                 ,
                 To
                 whom
                 did
                 they
                 adhere
                 ?
              
               I
               answer
               ,
               they
               adhered
               to
               Christ
               and
               
                 his
                 Apostles
              
               ,
               and
               the
               
                 triumphant
                 Church
                 in
                 Heaven
              
               ,
               to
               the
               
                 Doctrine
                 of
                 the
                 ancient
                 Fathers
                 ,
                 and
                 to
                 all
                 those
              
               who
               had
               shaken
               off
               the
               Corruptions
               of
               Rome
               :
               Who
               were
               at
               
                 that
                 time
              
               in
               Bohemia
               ,
               Germany
               ,
               Piedmont
               ,
               France
               ,
               England
               ,
               &c.
               many
               Thousands
               ;
               they
               adhered
               likewise
               to
               the
               
                 Eastern
                 Churches
              
               who
               never
               acknowledged
               
                 the
                 Pope
              
               ,
               nor
               were
               polluted
               with
               the
               
                 Corruptions
                 of
                 Rome
                 .
                 Lastly
              
               ,
               they
               adhered
               to
               all
               who
               lived
               in
               the
               
                 Communion
                 of
              
               Rome
               ,
               and
               were
               
                 not
                 tainted
              
               with
               the
               Corruptions
               of
               it
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               23.
               
               Your
               Church
               either
               hath
               Unity
               ,
               or
               it
               hath
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               It
               hath
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Why
               then
               are
               there
               so
               many
               Sects
               and
               Schisms
               
                 among
                 you
              
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               
                 There
                 are
                 none
                 who
              
               differ
               in
               essential
               Points
               :
               
                 In
                 which
              
               Unity
               of
               Doctrine
               
                 consists
                 :
                 as
                 for
                 those
              
               Sects
               who
               do
               differ
               in
               essentials
               ,
               
                 they
                 are
              
               none
               of
               our
               Church
               ,
               
                 but
                 the
              
               Spawn
               of
               Yours
               ,
               
                 as
                 we
                 can
              
               prove
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               24.
               
               All
               your
               Reformers
               did
               either
               agree
               in
               matters
               of
               Faith
               ,
               or
               they
               did
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               They
               did
               :
               All
               those
               who
               
                 we
                 own
              
               to
               be
               of
               
                 our
                 Church
                 ,
                 did
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Why
               did
               they
               so
               much
               differ
               in
               essential
               Points
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               They
               did
               not
               differ
               in
               any
               
                 Essential
                 Points
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               25.
               
               Luther
               and
               Calvin
               were
               either
               true
               Reformers
               ,
               or
               they
               were
               not
               :
               If
               not
               ,
               then
               you
               follow
               false
               Reformers
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               They
               were
               
                 true
                 Reformers
              
               .
               But
               
                 if
                 they
                 were
                 not
              
               ,
               you
               can
               bring
               
                 no
                 Argument
              
               against
               us
               ,
               for
               we
               follow
               them
               
                 no
                 f●●●ther
              
               than
               they
               followed
               Christ.
               
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               If
               they
               were
               ,
               why
               did
               they
               differ
               in
               the
               most
               essential
               Point
               of
               the
               Holy
               Sacrament
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               They
               do
               not
               differ
               in
               an
               
                 essential
                 Point
                 ;
                 their
                 difference
              
               there
               ,
               is
               
                 not
                 Essential
              
               ,
               they
               both
               agree
               that
               
                 Christ
                 is
                 Present
              
               ,
               but
               for
               the
               
                 manner
                 of
                 his
                 Presence
              
               ,
               it
               is
               
                 no
                 essential
              
               Point
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               But
               they
               differ
               in
               the
               Government
               of
               the
               Church
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               
                 They
                 do
              
               not
               differ
               
                 in
                 any
              
               essential
               Matter
               in
               that
               Point
               ,
               even
               according
               
                 to
                 your
              
               own
               Principles
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               26.
               
               All
               your
               Reformations
               either
               do
               agree
               ,
               or
               they
               do
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               All
               our
               Reformations
               do
               agree
               in
               
                 essential
                 Points
              
               ;
               as
               for
               others
               ,
               who
               
                 call
                 themselves
              
               Reformers
               ,
               but
               
                 are
                 not
              
               ,
               we
               have
               nothing
               to
               say
               to
               them
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               If
               they
               do
               produce
               any
               two
               that
               agree
               in
               all
               Points
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               
                 All
                 of
                 them
              
               agree
               in
               
                 all
                 necessary
              
               Points
               ,
               and
               I
               challenge
               you
               to
               produce
               
                 any
                 differences
              
               in
               
                 such
                 Points
              
               among
               us
               ;
               the
               difference
               we
               have
               about
               
                 lesser
                 questions
              
               ,
               are
               greater
               among
               you
               than
               us
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               27.
               
               Your
               Church
               either
               is
               Universal
               ,
               or
               it
               is
               not
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               I
               have
               proved
               that
               Universality
               is
               
                 no
                 mark
              
               of
               the
               
                 true
                 Church
              
               ;
               and
               therefore
               the
               question
               is
               impertinent
               :
               we
               do
               not
               say
               we
               are
               
                 the
                 Catholick
                 Church
              
               ,
               but
               
                 a
                 part
                 of
                 it
              
               ,
               and
               this
               we
               are
               ready
               to
               prove
               ;
               but
               it
               is
               not
               necessary
               to
               shew
               any
               of
               
                 our
                 Preachers
              
               in
               Japonia
               ,
               &c.
               
               For
               the
               
                 same
                 question
              
               might
               be
               put
               to
               the
               
                 Christian
                 Church
              
               in
               the
               
                 ancient
                 times
              
               ,
               before
               
                 many
                 Nations
              
               were
               converted
               :
               and
               to
               
                 your
                 Church
              
               it self
               ,
               at
               the
               
                 first
                 discovery
                 of
              
               America
               ;
               shew
               one
               of
               your
               Preachers
               in
               those
               Countries
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               28.
               
               Your
               Church
               hath
               either
               converted
               Nations
               ,
               or
               she
               hath
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               She
               hath
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               If
               she
               hath
               ,
               shew
               one
               Nation
               that
               she
               hath
               ever
               converted
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               All
               Nations
               converted
               by
               the
               Apostles
               ,
               and
               Primitive
               Christians
               ,
               
                 or
                 by
                 the
              
               true
               Church
               in
               any
               Age
               ,
               were
               converted
               
                 by
                 that
              
               Church
               ,
               of
               which
               we
               are
               a
               part
               :
               New-England
               ,
               and
               many
               other
               Parts
               
                 of
                 the
                 West-Indies
                 ,
                 with
                 several
              
               Places
               
                 in
                 the
              
               East
               ,
               
                 have
                 in
              
               particular
               been
               Converted
               
                 by
                 the
              
               Protestants
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               29.
               
               Your
               Church
               either
               hath
               been
               Universal
               ,
               or
               it
               hath
               not
               :
               If
               not
               ,
               She
               is
               not
               the
               true
               Church
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               I
               told
               you
               before
               ,
               we
               are
               
                 only
                 a
                 part
              
               of
               the
               
                 true
                 Church
              
               ;
               and
               for
               the
               question
               ,
               
                 Whether
                 it
                 be
                 Universal
                 or
                 not
                 :
              
               it
               hath
               been
               
                 as
                 Universal
              
               as
               the
               
                 true
                 Church
              
               hath
               been
               ;
               but
               I
               would
               willingly
               know
               what
               you
               mean
               by
               Universal
               ;
               for
               if
               you
               mean
               in
               
                 all
                 places
              
               ,
               we
               deny
               it
               to
               be
               a
               Mark
               of
               the
               
                 true
                 Church
              
               ,
               as
               I
               proved
               before
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               What
               time
               hath
               your
               Church
               been
               coexistent
               before
               Luther
               and
               Calvin
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               I
               told
               you
               just
               now
               ,
               our
               Church
               was
               existent
               in
               the
               Apostles
               ,
               and
               
                 Primitive
                 times
              
               ,
               and
               
                 ever
                 since
              
               ,
               though
               
                 not
                 so
                 visible
              
               as
               then
               .
               If
               you
               mean
               any
               thing
               else
               by
               the
               term
               Coexistent
               ,
               when
               you
               
                 explain
                 it
              
               ,
               I
               will
               give
               you
               a
               farther
               Answer
               ;
               which
               is
               a
               
                 clear
                 Answer
              
               to
               the
               next
               Query
               ,
               30.
               
               
                 In
                 whatever
                 Place
                 the
                 Apostles
                 and
                 Primitive
                 ,
                 and
                 Orthodox
                 Christians
                 were
                 ,
                 there
                 was
                 our
                 Church
                 ,
              
               and
               this
               we
               are
               ready
               to
               prove
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               31.
               
               Your
               Church
               hath
               Sanctity
               ,
               or
               it
               hath
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               It
               hath
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               If
               she
               hath
               shew
               one
               of
               yours
               that
               ever
               was
               Canoniz'd
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               That
               is
               an
               impertinent
               question
               :
               How
               comes
               Canonization
               to
               be
               a
               note
               of
               the
               
                 Churches
                 Sanctity
              
               ?
               and
               where
               did
               ever
               God
               command
               it
               ?
               So
               that
               it
               cannot
               be
               an
               Evidence
               of
               the
               
                 Churches
                 Sanctity
              
               ,
               but
               is
               indeed
               a
               
                 meer
                 ,
                 invention
                 of
                 Men
              
               ;
               but
               our
               
                 Sanctity
                 we
                 will
                 prove
              
               by
               the
               
                 Word
                 of
                 God
              
               ,
               because
               we
               teach
               the
               same
               Doctrine
               which
               that
               contains
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               32.
               
               Luther
               and
               Calvin
               ,
               and
               the
               rest
               of
               your
               Reformers
               ,
               confirmed
               their
               Doctrine
               with
               Miracles
               ,
               or
               they
               did
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               What
               if
               they
               did
               not
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               If
               they
               did
               not
               ,
               they
               were
               not
               true
               Apostles
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               The
               Doctrine
               they
               Preached
               was
               not
               theirs
               ,
               
                 but
                 that
                 which
              
               Christ
               and
               his
               Apostles
               taught
               ,
               and
               confirm'd
               by
               Miracles
               ;
               
                 so
                 that
                 it
              
               needed
               no
               more
               Confirmation
               :
               except
               
                 we
                 had
              
               received
               it
               upon
               their
               Authority
               ,
               
                 which
                 we
              
               did
               not
               :
               
                 We
                 acknowledge
                 they
                 were
              
               not
               Apostles
               ,
               
                 as
                 the
              
               twelve
               
                 were
                 ;
                 and
              
               therefore
               no
               need
               
                 of
                 their
                 working
              
               Miracles
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               33.
               
               The
               Signs
               which
               Christ
               said
               in
               Scripture
               ,
               followed
               your
               pretended
               Reformers
               ,
               or
               they
               did
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               
                 All
                 the
              
               Signs
               which
               Christ
               said
               ,
               should
               always
               accompany
               the
               true
               Preachers
               
                 of
                 the
              
               Gospel
               ,
               
                 did
                 follow
                 them
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               If
               they
               did
               ,
               shew
               one
               Man
               they
               dispossessed
               ,
               or
               one
               sick
               that
               they
               restored
               to
               Health
               :
               for
               if
               these
               Signs
               did
               not
               follow
               them
               ,
               they
               are
               not
               true
               Believers
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               That
               doth
               not
               follow
               ,
               for
               Christ
               never
               made
               that
               a
               Sign
               of
               
                 True
                 Believers
              
               ;
               nay
               ,
               you
               
                 must
                 confess
                 that
                 many
                 never
              
               worked
               any
               of
               these
               Miracles
               ,
               who
               are
               yet
               
                 true
                 Believers
              
               .
               If
               indeed
               they
               
                 had
                 Preached
              
               any
               
                 new
                 Doctrine
              
               ,
               you
               
                 might
                 call
              
               for
               Miracles
               ,
               but
               seeing
               they
               
                 Preached
                 none
                 new
              
               ,
               but
               the
               Doctrine
               that
               was
               taught
               by
               Christ
               ,
               his
               Apostles
               ,
               and
               the
               
                 Ancient
                 Fathers
              
               ,
               there
               is
               
                 no
                 need
              
               to
               confirm
               that
               by
               Miracles
               ,
               seeing
               all
               the
               
                 Miracles
                 Christ
              
               ,
               and
               
                 his
                 Apostles
              
               wrought
               ,
               were
               for
               
                 that
                 end
              
               .
               However
               we
               
                 can
                 shew
              
               many
               certain
               instances
               of
               Mens
               being
               dispossessed
               ,
               by
               the
               Prayers
               of
               the
               Faithful
               in
               our
               Church
               ;
               and
               many
               among
               us
               who
               have
               had
               their
               
                 Health
                 restored
              
               them
               in
               answer
               to
               their
               own
               and
               the
               Churches
               Prayers
               :
               but
               for
               all
               that
               we
               have
               
                 better
                 grounds
              
               for
               our
               Faith
               ,
               which
               we
               rest
               upon
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               34.
               
               Your
               Reformers
               were
               either
               famous
               for
               their
               virtuous
               Lives
               ,
               or
               they
               were
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               They
               were
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               If
               they
               were
               ;
               why
               did
               they
               break
               their
               Vows
               made
               to
               God
               ,
               and
               teach
               Men
               so
               to
               do
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               The
               Vows
               which
               they
               broke
               ,
               were
               
                 unlawful
                 Vows
              
               ,
               and
               your
               own
               Canons
               expresly
               say
               ,
               
                 that
                 an
                 unlawful
                 Vow
                 ought
                 to
                 be
                 broken
                 :
              
               (
               C.
               22.
               qu.
               4.
               c.
               in
               
               malis
               .
               )
               by
               breaking
               then
               their
               
                 Vow
                 of
                 single
                 Life
              
               ,
               that
               is
               ,
               by
               repenting
               of
               it
               ,
               and
               
                 not
                 observing
              
               it
               ,
               they
               did
               
                 no
                 more
              
               than
               what
               they
               were
               in
               
                 duty
                 bound
              
               to
               do
               :
               and
               therefore
               were
               
                 holy
                 Men
              
               for
               
                 all
                 that
              
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               35.
               
               The
               Catholick
               Roman
               Church
               and
               no
               other
               stands
               firm
               and
               infallible
               ,
               against
               all
               the
               Tempests
               of
               Apostasie
               ,
               Heresy
               and
               Schism
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               The
               Roman
               Church
               is
               not
               firm
               nor
               infallible
               ,
               
                 but
                 as
                 to
                 the
              
               visible
               part
               of
               it
               ,
               is
               fallen
               
                 both
                 by
              
               Apostasie
               ,
               Heresy
               ,
               and
               Schism
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               36.
               
               The
               Romans
               had
               once
               the
               true
               Church
               ,
               or
               they
               had
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               The
               question
               is
               Ambiguous
               ;
               
                 if
                 you
              
               mean
               
                 by
                 it
                 that
                 the
              
               Roman
               Church
               was
               the
               true
               Church
               ,
               as
               the
               Mother
               of
               all
               other
               ,
               
                 I
                 deny
                 it
                 :
                 if
                 you
              
               mean
               that
               the
               Roman
               Church
               was
               a
               true
               Church
               ,
               and
               had
               the
               true
               Faith
               ;
               
                 I
                 answer
                 that
                 she
              
               had
               the
               true
               Faith.
               
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               If
               the
               Romans
               had
               the
               true
               Faith
               ,
               they
               retain
               the
               same
               still
               infallibly
               ,
               or
               do
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               They
               do
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               37.
               
               If
               they
               do
               not
               ,
               then
               they
               must
               have
               their
               fall
               ,
               either
               by
               Apostasie
               ,
               Heresie
               ,
               or
               Schism
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               She
               hath
               fallen
               by
               them
               all
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               The
               Ancient
               ,
               Apostolick
               ,
               Catholick
               ,
               Roman
               Church
               ,
               fell
               by
               Apostasie
               ,
               or
               it
               did
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               The
               Ancient
               ,
               Apostolick
               ,
               Catholick
               Church
               ,
               fell
               not
               
                 at
                 all
                 :
                 Nay
                 the
              
               Ancient
               Roman
               Church
               fell
               not
               :
               
                 but
                 the
              
               present
               Roman
               Church
               is
               fallen
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               If
               she
               is
               fallen
               by
               Apostasie
               ,
               what
               prudent
               man
               will
               say
               that
               she
               ever
               renounced
               the
               sweet
               Name
               of
               Jesus
               ,
               which
               she
               ever
               hath
               in
               so
               great
               Veneration
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               She
               may
               have
               fallen
               by
               Apostasie
               ,
               and
               yet
               not
               ,
               have
               renounced
               the
               Name
               of
               Jesus
               ,
               so
               that
               her
               having
               it
               in
               so
               
                 great
                 Veneration
              
               ,
               is
               
                 no
                 Argument
              
               that
               she
               is
               
                 not
                 fallen
              
               by
               Apostasie
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               38.
               
               The
               Roman
               Church
               fell
               by
               Heresie
               ,
               or
               she
               did
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               She
               did
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               If
               she
               did
               ,
               by
               what
               General
               Council
               was
               she
               ever
               Condemn'd
               ?
               which
               of
               the
               Fathers
               ever
               wrote
               against
               her
               ?
               Or
               by
               what
               Authority
               was
               she
               otherwise
               reprov'd
               ?
            
          
           
             
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               If
               nothing
               be
               an
               Heresy
               but
               what
               
                 a
                 General
                 Council
              
               condemns
               ,
               then
               those
               Heresies
               which
               sprang
               up
               in
               the
               
                 first
                 three
                 hundred
                 years
              
               ,
               were
               wrongfully
               esteemed
               such
               in
               
                 those
                 times
              
               ,
               seeing
               there
               was
               then
               
                 no
                 General
                 Council
              
               :
               If
               
                 a
                 Doctrine
              
               may
               be
               Heretical
               which
               was
               never
               Condemned
               by
               a
               
                 general
                 Council
              
               ,
               then
               the
               
                 Dostrines
                 of
                 the
                 Church
                 of
              
               Rome
               may
               be
               Heretical
               ,
               though
               
                 never
                 Condemned
              
               by
               a
               
                 General
                 Council
              
               ,
               so
               
                 that
                 question
              
               doth
               not
               vindicate
               her
               from
               being
               
                 guilty
                 of
                 Heresie
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               But
               ,
               which
               of
               the
               Fathers
               ever
               wrote
               against
               her
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               
                 All
                 the
              
               Ancient
               Fathers
               disclaim
               those
               Doctrines
               
                 which
                 the
              
               Roman
               Church
               now
               holds
               :
               
                 but
                 they
              
               could
               not
               write
               purposely
               
                 against
                 her
              
               ,
               because
               she
               
                 did
                 not
              
               then
               
                 profess
                 those
              
               Doctrines
               .
               
                 But
                 if
                 it
                 be
                 a
              
               good
               Argument
               ,
               the
               Church
               of
               Rome
               fell
               not
               into
               Heresy
               ,
               because
               no
               Father
               wrote
               purposely
               against
               her
               ;
               
                 then
                 the
              
               same
               Argument
               will
               vindicate
               
                 us
                 ,
                 seeing
              
               no
               Father
               hath
               writ
               against
               us
               :
               
                 but
                 if
              
               no
               Father
               had
               writ
               
                 against
                 the
              
               Church
               of
               
                 Rome
                 ,
                 she
              
               might
               be
               Heretical
               
                 for
                 all
              
               that
               ,
               
                 so
                 that
                 this
              
               question
               
                 and
                 the
              
               former
               
                 are
                 both
              
               impertinent
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               But
               by
               what
               Authority
               was
               she
               reproved
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               By
               the
               Authority
               of
               the
               Scriptures
               ,
               by
               the
               Authority
               of
               the
               Testimony
               of
               the
               
                 Antient
                 Church
              
               ,
               and
               the
               Authority
               of
               
                 right
                 Reason
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               39.
               
               The
               Ancient
               Roman
               Church
               fell
               by
               Schism
               ,
               and
               by
               dividing
               herself
               from
               some
               other
               Church
               ,
               or
               she
               did
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               She
               did
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               If
               she
               did
               ,
               whose
               company
               did
               she
               leave
               ?
               from
               what
               Body
               did
               she
               go
               forth
               ?
               Where
               was
               the
               true
               Church
               she
               forsook
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               She
               forsook
               the
               Primitive
               Church
               ,
               the
               Eastern
               Church
               ,
               
                 and
                 all
              
               those
               Christians
               who
               always
               
                 maintained
                 their
              
               Freedom
               
                 from
                 the
              
               Roman
               Yoke
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               40.
               
               The
               true
               Holy
               Apostolick
               Catholick
               Church
               is
               fallible
               ,
               and
               can
               err
               ,
               or
               it
               cannot
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               
                 Remember
                 by
              
               the
               Church
               I
               mean
               the
               Faithful
               throughout
               the
               World
               ,
               and
               of
               these
               
                 I
                 say
                 ,
                 they
              
               all
               cannot
               err
               in
               any
               point
               of
               Faith.
               
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Why
               do
               you
               then
               falsly
               condemn
               her
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               
                 We
                 do
                 not
                 condemn
                 her
                 ,
                 we
              
               are
               part
               of
               her
               ,
               
                 but
                 for
                 the
              
               Roman
               Church
               ,
               we
               condemn
               her
               .
            
          
           
             
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               41.
               
               The
               Church
               of
               God
               is
               infallible
               in
               all
               her
               Proposals
               ,
               and
               Definitions
               of
               Faith
               ,
               or
               she
               is
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               All
               Definitions
               
                 made
                 by
              
               the
               whole
               Church
               of
               Christ
               ,
               are
               infallibly
               true
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               If
               she
               be
               ,
               why
               do
               you
               deny
               infallibility
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               The
               Infallibility
               we
               deny
               ,
               is
               that
               of
               
                 a
                 Pope
              
               or
               Council
               ;
               and
               this
               we
               deny
               ,
               because
               they
               
                 are
                 not
                 the
                 whole
                 Church
              
               ,
               and
               therefore
               though
               the
               
                 Church
                 of
                 Christ
              
               be
               infallible
               ,
               yet
               they
               
                 are
                 not
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               42.
               
               Christ
               being
               the
               Head
               of
               the
               Church
               ,
               and
               the
               Holy
               Ghost
               the
               Soul
               of
               the
               Church
               ,
               guiding
               and
               directing
               the
               Church
               in
               all
               Truth
               ;
               she
               can
               err
               ,
               or
               she
               cannot
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               She
               cannot
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Then
               she
               is
               not
               fallible
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               The
               Church
               of
               Christ
               is
               not
               fallible
               ;
               
                 but
                 the
              
               Roman
               Church
               is
               .
            
             
               43.
               
               Christ
               is
               either
               a
               true
               Prophet
               ,
               or
               he
               is
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               He
               is
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               If
               he
               be
               ,
               how
               then
               can
               the
               Gates
               of
               Hell
               prevail
               against
               the
               Church
               ?
               Seeing
               he
               prophesied
               in
               St.
               Matt.
               16.
               18.
               
               The
               Gates
               of
               Hell
               shall
               not
               prevail
               against
               her
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               The
               Gates
               of
               Hell
               cannot
               prevail
               against
               the
               Church
               ,
               nor
               never
               shall
               ;
               
                 that
                 is
              
               ,
               they
               shall
               not
               prevail
               against
               the
               whole
               Church
               ,
               
                 but
                 against
              
               any
               particular
               Church
               ,
               
                 as
                 the
              
               Church
               of
               
                 Rome
                 ,
                 they
              
               may
               and
               have
               prevailed
               .
               But
               here
               ,
               
                 as
                 in
              
               the
               rest
               
                 of
                 your
              
               Queries
               ,
               you
               beg
               the
               question
               ,
               supposing
               the
               Church
               of
               
                 Rome
                 to
                 be
              
               the
               only
               Church
               of
               Christ.
               
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               44.
               
               The
               Holy
               Ghost
               suggesteth
               all
               truth
               to
               the
               Church
               ,
               or
               it
               doth
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               It
               doth
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               If
               it
               doth
               ,
               then
               it
               will
               suggest
               no
               Errors
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               
                 It
                 will
                 not
                 :
                 But
              
               that
               doth
               not
               hinder
               ,
               but
               it
               may
               permit
               Satan
               to
               suggest
               Errors
               to
               a
               particular
               Church
               :
               
                 this
                 you
              
               will
               allow
               ;
               and
               therefore
               to
               the
               Church
               of
               
                 Rome
                 ,
                 which
              
               is
               
                 but
                 a
              
               particular
               Church
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               45.
               
               Christ
               was
               a
               wise
               Man
               ,
               or
               he
               was
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               He
               was
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Why
               then
               did
               he
               build
               his
               House
               upon
               the
               Sand
               ,
               and
               make
               it
               subject
               to
               the
               infernal
               Tempests
               .
            
          
           
             
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               He
               did
               
                 not
                 build
              
               his
               House
               
                 upon
                 the
                 Sand
              
               ,
               nor
               did
               he
               make
               it
               subject
               ,
               that
               is
               ,
               
                 he
                 did
                 not
                 subject
                 it
                 to
                 the
                 infernal
                 Tempests
              
               ;
               but
               he
               
                 made
                 it
                 liable
              
               to
               them
               ,
               yet
               still
               he
               defeats
               their
               force
               :
               and
               though
               he
               suffers
               them
               to
               overthrow
               some
               
                 outer
                 parts
                 of
              
               it
               ,
               yet
               the
               
                 House
                 it self
              
               shall
               never
               be
               overthrown
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               46.
               
               A
               Congregation
               of
               People
               in
               dispising
               Christ
               ,
               are
               guilty
               of
               Apostasie
               ,
               or
               they
               are
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               If
               they
               were
               People
               that
               
                 professed
                 Christ
                 before
              
               ,
               then
               they
               
                 are
                 guilty
                 of
                 Apostasie
                 in
              
               despising
               him
               ;
               but
               
                 not
                 else
              
               :
               if
               they
               
                 never
                 Professed
                 Christ
              
               ,
               they
               are
               
                 guilty
                 of
                 horrible
                 Sin
              
               ,
               but
               
                 not
                 of
                 Apostasie
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               If
               they
               be
               ,
               how
               can
               you
               clear
               your selves
               of
               Apostasie
               in
               despising
               his
               Church
               ?
               seeing
               it
               is
               said
               in
               Scripture
               ,
               Luke
               10.
               16.
               
               He
               that
               heareth
               you
               ,
               heareth
               me
               ,
               &c.
               
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               We
               do
               not
               despise
               
                 the
                 Church
              
               :
               it
               is
               
                 you
                 despise
                 her
              
               ,
               by
               
                 teaching
                 so
                 many
                 things
                 contrary
                 to
                 her
                 Doctrine
                 ,
              
               as
               we
               are
               ready
               to
               prove
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               47.
               
               Your
               Church
               is
               guilty
               of
               Heresie
               ,
               or
               she
               is
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               She
               is
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               If
               not
               ,
               how
               doth
               the
               Definition
               of
               Heresie
               agree
               with
               you
               ,
               in
               adhering
               to
               so
               many
               singular
               and
               private
               Opinions
               ,
               and
               Errors
               of
               Faith
               ,
               contrary
               to
               the
               general
               approved
               Doctrine
               of
               the
               Catholick
               Church
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               It
               doth
               
                 not
                 agree
              
               at
               all
               
                 to
                 us
              
               ;
               we
               teach
               
                 no
                 such
                 private
              
               and
               singular
               Opinions
               ;
               the
               Doctrines
               we
               teach
               ,
               are
               
                 the
                 received
                 Doctrines
              
               of
               the
               
                 Catholick
                 Church
              
               ;
               but
               it
               agrees
               very
               well
               to
               you
               ,
               whose
               Doctrines
               wherein
               
                 we
                 dissent
              
               from
               you
               ,
               are
               such
               private
               and
               
                 singular
                 Opinions
              
               ,
               and
               contrary
               to
               the
               
                 received
                 Doctrine
              
               of
               the
               
                 Catholick
                 Church
              
               ;
               and
               this
               we
               will
               at
               
                 any
                 time
                 prove
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               48.
               
               Your
               Church
               is
               guilty
               of
               Schism
               ,
               or
               it
               is
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               It
               is
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               How
               then
               doth
               the
               Definition
               of
               Schism
               agree
               with
               you
               ,
               in
               dividing
               your selves
               from
               the
               Body
               of
               all
               Faithful
               Christians
               ,
               and
               in
               breaking
               Communion
               with
               the
               Antient
               ,
               Apostolick
               ,
               Catholick
               ,
               Roman
               Church
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               It
               doth
               not
               agree
               to
               us
               :
               we
               made
               
                 no
                 such
              
               Division
               ,
               we
               indeed
               divided
               our selves
               from
               the
               
                 corrupt
                 Roman
                 Church
              
               ,
               but
               we
               
                 never
                 divided
              
               from
               the
               
                 Ancient
                 Apostolick
                 
                 Church
              
               ,
               but
               
                 you
                 did
              
               ,
               and
               this
               I
               am
               ready
               to
               
                 make
                 good
              
               ;
               See
               here
               again
               you
               
                 beg
                 the
                 question
              
               ,
               and
               suppose
               the
               
                 Roman
                 Church
                 the
                 only
                 Church
              
               of
               Christ
               ,
               which
               is
               the
               point
               in
               Controversie
               ,
               and
               you
               can
               
                 never
                 prove
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               49.
               
               That
               Church
               to
               which
               Apostasie
               ,
               Heresy
               ,
               and
               Schism
               agree
               ,
               is
               a
               false
               Church
               ,
               or
               she
               is
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               She
               is
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Then
               your
               Church
               is
               a
               false
               Church
               ,
               seeing
               they
               so
               aptly
               agree
               with
               her
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               They
               do
               not
               agree
               with
               her
               ,
               but
               rather
               with
               you
               ,
               as
               I
               have
               proved
               .
               Therefore
               she
               is
               
                 no
                 false
                 Church
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               50.
               
               All
               that
               which
               the
               Ancient
               holy
               Catholick
               Roman
               Church
               holds
               as
               Articles
               of
               Faith
               ,
               is
               pious
               ,
               good
               ,
               and
               lawful
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               All
               that
               the
               
                 Ancient
                 holy
                 Catholick
                 Church
                 held
                 ,
                 is
                 pious
                 ,
                 good
                 ,
                 and
                 lawful
                 ,
              
               and
               so
               is
               all
               that
               
                 the
                 Ancient
                 holy
                 Roman
                 Church
              
               held
               ,
               for
               she
               
                 held
                 nothing
              
               but
               what
               the
               
                 Catholick
                 Church
              
               held
               ,
               but
               all
               that
               the
               
                 present
                 Roman
                 Church
                 holds
              
               ,
               is
               
                 not
                 pious
                 ,
                 good
              
               ,
               and
               lawful
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               I
               prove
               it
               is
               out
               of
               holy
               Writ
               ;
               and
               by
               common
               Sense
               and
               Reason
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               Both
               
                 holy
                 Writ
              
               ,
               and
               
                 common
                 Sense
              
               and
               Reason
               are
               
                 against
                 you
              
               ,
               but
               go
               on
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             Of
             the
             Popes
             Supremacy
             .
          
           
             
               PA.
               
            
             
               51.
               
               The
               Foundation
               of
               the
               Church
               of
               God
               ,
               next
               after
               Christ
               was
               builded
               upon
               St.
               Peter
               ,
               or
               it
               was
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               It
               was
               
                 no
                 more
              
               builded
               on
               St.
               Peter
               ,
               than
               upon
               the
               other
               Apostles
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Why
               then
               doth
               the
               Scripture
               say
               ,
               Mat.
               16.
               18.
               
               Thou
               art
               Peter
               ,
               and
               upon
               this
               Rock
               will
               I
               build
               my
               Church
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               Christ
               says
               not
               there
               ,
               that
               
                 he
                 will
                 build
                 his
                 Church
              
               upon
               the
               
                 Person
                 of
              
               Peter
               ,
               but
               upon
               the
               Confession
               that
               
                 he
                 had
                 before
                 made
              
               ,
               vers
               .
               16.
               
               
                 Thou
                 art
                 Christ
                 the
                 Son
                 of
                 the
                 Living
                 God
                 ,
                 which
                 is
                 the
                 Foundation
                 of
              
               the
               
                 Christian
                 Religion
              
               ;
               so
               St.
               Austin
               explains
               it
               (
               Aug.
               trac
               .
               10.
               in
               1
               John
               )
               
                 What
                 means
                 this
              
               (
               saith
               he
               )
               
                 vpon
                 this
                 Rock
                 will
                 I
                 build
                 my
                 Church
                 ?
                 Upon
                 that
                 Faith
                 ,
                 upon
                 that
                 which
                 is
                 said
                 ,
                 Thou
                 
                 art
                 the
                 Christ
                 :
              
               seeing
               then
               Christ
               did
               not
               build
               his
               Church
               on
               Peter
               more
               than
               the
               
                 other
                 Apostles
              
               ,
               we
               with
               
                 good
                 reason
                 deny
              
               his
               Supremacy
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               52.
               
               Christ
               did
               prefer
               Peter
               before
               the
               other
               Apostles
               ,
               or
               he
               did
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               He
               did
               not
               give
               Peter
               any
               
                 Preference
                 of
                 Order
              
               ,
               or
               Power
               more
               than
               to
               the
               other
               Apostles
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               If
               he
               did
               not
               ,
               why
               did
               he
               say
               to
               Peter
               only
               ,
               John
               21.
               16
               ,
               17
               ,
               18
               ,
               feed
               my
               Lambs
               ,
               feed
               my
               Sheep
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               He
               did
               not
               say
               it
               to
               Peter
               only
               ,
               St.
               Austin
               tells
               us
               ,
               (
               Aug.
               de
               ago
               .
               Christ.
               c.
               30.
               )
               
                 when
                 it
                 is
                 said
                 unto
              
               Peter
               ,
               
                 Feed
                 my
                 Sheep
                 ,
                 it
                 is
                 said
                 unto
                 all
                 ,
              
               and
               St.
               Amb.
               (
               Lib.
               de
               Sacerd.
               )
               
                 which
                 Sheep
                 ,
                 and
                 Flock
                 ,
                 St.
              
               Peter
               
                 did
                 not
                 receive
                 alone
                 ,
                 but
                 we
                 all
                 received
                 them
                 with
                 him
                 .
              
               Seeing
               then
               here
               was
               
                 no
                 Prerogative
              
               given
               to
               Peter
               ,
               but
               what
               the
               
                 rest
                 of
                 the
                 Apostles
              
               ,
               and
               
                 all
                 Pastors
              
               received
               ,
               we
               have
               
                 good
                 reason
              
               to
               deny
               his
               Supremacy
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               53.
               
               The
               Apostles
               were
               of
               equal
               Authority
               ,
               or
               they
               were
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               They
               were
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               If
               they
               were
               ,
               why
               have
               you
               Primates
               ,
               Archbishops
               ,
               Bishops
               ,
               and
               no
               equal
               Authority
               as
               they
               had
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               The
               Question
               is
               impertinent
               ,
               all
               Archbishops
               are
               of
               
                 equal
                 Authority
              
               in
               their
               
                 own
                 Provinces
              
               ?
               All
               Bishops
               are
               of
               
                 equal
                 Authority
              
               in
               their
               
                 respective
                 Dioceses
              
               :
               So
               that
               we
               have
               an
               
                 equal
                 Authority
              
               .
               But
               as
               Bishops
               were
               under
               the
               Apostles
               ,
               and
               Presbyters
               under
               them
               ,
               so
               we
               have
               the
               
                 same
                 degrees
              
               ,
               but
               for
               the
               
                 Office
                 of
                 an
                 Apostle
              
               ,
               that
               is
               ;
               
                 no
                 longer
              
               in
               the
               Church
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               54.
               
               To
               whom
               the
               chief
               Charge
               of
               feeding
               Christs
               Sheep
               was
               given
               ,
               he
               was
               chief
               of
               the
               Apostles
               ,
               or
               he
               was
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               He
               was
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Why
               then
               do
               you
               deny
               Peter's
               Supremacy
               ,
               to
               whom
               the
               chief
               charge
               was
               committed
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               The
               
                 chief
                 Charge
              
               was
               not
               committed
               
                 to
                 him
              
               ,
               therefore
               we
               deny
               his
               Supremacy
               .
               And
               although
               I
               acknowledged
               that
               ,
               
                 if
                 the
                 chief
                 Charge
                 had
                 been
                 given
                 to
                 any
                 ,
                 he
                 had
                 been
                 Chief
              
               ;
               yet
               seeing
               it
               was
               given
               
                 to
                 none
                 ,
                 as
                 I
                 proved
              
               before
               ,
               there
               was
               
                 no
                 chief
              
               over
               the
               rest
               .
            
          
        
         
           
           
             
               Of
               Oral
            
             Tradition
             .
          
           
             
               PA.
               
            
             
               55.
               
               Oral
               and
               Apostolical
               Tradition
               ,
               without
               written
               Books
               ,
               either
               was
               the
               means
               of
               Planting
               and
               Conserving
               the
               Christian
               Religion
               ,
               or
               it
               was
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               It
               was
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               If
               not
               ,
               how
               did
               the
               Apostles
               propagate
               the
               Faith
               of
               Christ
               ,
               without
               written
               Books
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               They
               did
               not
               ,
               but
               in
               propagating
               the
               Faith
               they
               
                 always
                 appealed
              
               to
               the
               Scriptures
               of
               the
               
                 Old
                 Testament
              
               ;
               they
               indeed
               taught
               the
               
                 Christian
                 Doctrine
              
               by
               
                 word
                 of
                 Mouth
              
               ,
               before
               they
               committed
               it
               to
               Writing
               ,
               but
               that
               was
               
                 no
                 Tradition
              
               handed
               from
               Father
               to
               Son
               ,
               which
               is
               the
               Tradition
               you
               
                 plead
                 for
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               56.
               
               The
               number
               of
               the
               Canonical
               Books
               are
               mentioned
               in
               Scripture
               ,
               or
               they
               are
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               They
               are
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               If
               not
               ,
               how
               do
               you
               know
               the
               Canonical
               Books
               ,
               but
               by
               Oral
               Tradition
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               By
               written
               Tradition
               ,
               the
               Testimony
               of
               all
               Ages
               ,
               
                 in
                 their
              
               Writings
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               57.
               
               The
               Christians
               of
               the
               Primitive
               Age
               ,
               on
               pain
               of
               Damnation
               ,
               held
               nothing
               for
               Faith
               ,
               but
               what
               they
               had
               received
               from
               Christ
               and
               his
               Apostles
               for
               such
               ,
               or
               they
               did
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               They
               did
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Why
               then
               do
               you
               deny
               Tradition
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               We
               do
               not
               deny
               
                 all
                 Tradition
              
               :
               but
               we
               affirm
               that
               Tradition
               is
               not
               as
               the
               
                 Council
                 of
              
               Trent
               affirms
               ,
               
                 of
                 equal
                 Authority
                 with
                 the
                 written
                 Word
              
               ;
               but
               the
               
                 Primitive
                 Christians
              
               received
               their
               Faith
               from
               Christ
               ,
               and
               
                 his
                 Apostles
              
               ,
               by
               means
               of
               the
               
                 Scriptures
                 ,
                 not
              
               by
               means
               of
               
                 unwritten
                 Tradition
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               58.
               
               Apostolical
               Tradition
               is
               the
               Rule
               by
               which
               we
               may
               be
               infallibly
               assured
               ;
               both
               what
               Doctrine
               Christ
               and
               his
               Apostles
               taught
               ,
               and
               what
               Books
               they
               wrote
               ,
               or
               else
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               If
               you
               can
               shew
               us
               any
               
                 Apostolical
                 Tradition
              
               ,
               and
               prove
               it
               to
               be
               such
               ,
               we
               will
               
                 own
                 it
              
               ;
               but
               for
               
                 unwritten
                 Tradition
              
               ,
               it
               is
               not
               the
               Rule
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               If
               not
               ,
               how
               otherwise
               can
               we
               be
               assured
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               What
               
                 Doctrine
                 Christ
              
               taught
               ,
               we
               can
               be
               assured
               by
               the
               Scriptures
               ;
               what
               Books
               the
               Apostles
               wrote
               we
               can
               be
               assured
               by
               
                 Universal
                 written
                 Tradition
                 ,
                 the
                 greatest
                 Historical
                 Evidence
              
               ;
               but
               not
               by
               unwritten
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             Of
             the
             Eucharist
             .
          
           
             
               PA.
               
            
             
               59.
               
               That
               natural
               Body
               and
               Blood
               ,
               which
               Christ
               offered
               upon
               the
               Cross
               ,
               for
               the
               remission
               of
               Sins
               ,
               it
               was
               the
               same
               which
               Christ
               gave
               to
               his
               Apostles
               ,
               or
               it
               was
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               If
               you
               mean
               that
               
                 material
                 Body
                 and
                 Blood
              
               ,
               it
               was
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Why
               do
               you
               then
               deny
               that
               Scripture
               of
               St.
               
                 Luke
                 22.
                 19.
              
               
               This
               is
               my
               Body
               which
               shall
               be
               given
               for
               you
               ?
               and
               that
               
                 Matt.
                 26.
                 20.
              
               
               This
               is
               the
               Blood
               of
               the
               New
               Testament
               ,
               which
               shall
               be
               shed
               for
               many
               ,
               for
               the
               Remission
               of
               Sins
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               
                 Why
                 do
                 you
              
               falsify
               
                 the
                 words
                 of
                 St.
                 Luke
              
               ,
               and
               St.
               
                 Matthew
                 ?
                 their
              
               Words
               are
               ,
               This
               is
               my
               Body
               which
               is
               given
               for
               you
               ;
               and
               This
               is
               my
               Blood
               which
               is
               shed
               for
               many
               ,
               not
               which
               shall
               be
               ,
               
                 and
                 we
              
               deny
               not
               the
               Words
               
                 of
                 the
              
               Evangelists
               ,
               
                 but
                 we
              
               deny
               the
               real
               Presence
               you
               assert
               ,
               because
               Christ
               spake
               here
               of
               his
               real
               figurative
               Sacramental
               Body
               ,
               
                 not
                 of
                 his
              
               real
               natural
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               60.
               
               Christ
               either
               gave
               his
               Body
               and
               Blood
               to
               his
               Apostles
               at
               his
               last
               Supper
               ,
               or
               he
               did
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               He
               did
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Why
               then
               do
               you
               deny
               the
               real
               Presence
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               We
               do
               not
               deny
               a
               
                 real
                 Presence
              
               ;
               but
               a
               
                 natural
                 Corporal
                 Presence
              
               we
               do
               ;
               we
               affirm
               
                 Christ
                 to
                 be
                 present
                 really
                 and
                 sacramentally
              
               ;
               but
               not
               naturally
               ,
               in
               the
               Body
               and
               Blood
               ,
               on
               which
               he
               hung
               upon
               the
               Cross
               ,
               according
               to
               that
               of
               St.
               Austin
               (
               in
               Psal.
               98.
               )
               You
               shall
               not
               eat
               that
               Body
               which
               was
               Crucified
               ,
               nor
               drink
               the
               Blood
               which
               was
               shed
               upon
               the
               Cross.
               
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               61.
               
               When
               Christ
               said
               ,
               This
               is
               my
               Body
               ,
               did
               he
               speak
               Metaphorically
               or
               not
               ?
            
          
           
             
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               He
               did
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               If
               he
               did
               ,
               prove
               the
               Metaphor
               out
               of
               Scripture
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               So
               we
               do
               ,
               both
               from
               the
               
                 words
                 of
                 the
                 Institution
              
               ,
               and
               the
               
                 parallel
                 places
                 of
                 Scripture
              
               .
            
             
               1.
               
               From
               the
               Words
               of
               the
               
                 Institution
                 ,
                 This
                 is
                 my
                 Body
                 ,
              
               either
               
                 those
                 words
              
               are
               to
               be
               understood
               in
               a
               
                 Metaphorical
                 Sense
              
               ,
               or
               they
               are
               not
               ;
               if
               not
               ,
               then
               they
               are
               to
               be
               understood
               in
               a
               litteral
               ;
               if
               they
               are
               ,
               then
               they
               
                 are
                 a
                 Metaphor
              
               .
            
             
               If
               they
               are
               to
               be
               understood
               in
               a
               
                 litteral
                 Sense
              
               then
               they
               are
               either
               true
               in
               
                 that
                 Sense
              
               or
               they
               are
               not
               :
               If
               they
               
                 are
                 not
              
               ,
               then
               Christ
               was
               a
               Lyar
               ,
               which
               is
               Blasphemy
               ;
               if
               they
               
                 are
                 true
                 in
                 a
                 litteral
                 Sense
                 ,
              
               then
               the
               
                 Bread
                 is
                 Christs
                 Body
              
               ,
               or
               it
               
                 is
                 not
              
               ;
               if
               it
               is
               not
               ,
               then
               those
               words
               ,
               
                 This
                 is
                 my
                 Body
              
               ,
               are
               false
               ;
               if
               
                 it
                 be
              
               ,
               then
               an
               Impossibility
               is
               true
               ,
               for
               
                 your
                 own
                 Authors
              
               confess
               that
               it
               is
               
                 impossible
                 that
                 the
                 Bread
                 should
                 be
                 the
                 Body
                 of
                 Christ
                 litterally
              
               ;
               (
               Gra.
               de
               Consec
               .
               dist
               .
               2.
               c.
               55
               )
               But
               an
               Impossibility
               cannot
               be
               true
               ,
               therefore
               the
               Bread
               is
               
                 not
                 Christs
                 real
                 Body
              
               .
               If
               it
               be
               
                 not
                 Christs
                 real
                 Body
              
               ,
               they
               cannot
               be
               taken
               in
               
                 a
                 litteral
                 Sense
              
               therefore
               they
               must
               be
               taken
               in
               a
               Metaphorical
               .
            
             
               2.
               
               From
               the
               
                 Parallel
                 places
                 of
                 Scripture
              
               ,
               when
               Christ
               ,
               says
               ,
               
                 I
                 am
                 a
                 Vine
              
               ,
               it
               is
               a
               Metaphor
               ;
               when
               he
               says
               ,
               
                 I
                 am
                 a
                 Door
              
               ,
               it
               is
               a
               Metaphor
               ;
               when
               he
               says
               ,
               
                 I
                 am
                 a
                 way
              
               ,
               it
               is
               a
               Metaphor
               ,
               when
               he
               says
               ,
               
                 this
                 is
                 the
                 Cup
                 of
                 the
                 New
                 Testament
                 ,
              
               it
               is
               a
               Metaphor
               :
               These
               are
               
                 parallel
                 Places
                 of
                 Scripture
              
               ,
               all
               Metaphors
               ;
               therefore
               
                 This
                 is
                 my
                 Body
              
               ,
               is
               
                 a
                 Metaphor
                 too
              
               .
               According
               to
               Theodoret.
               (
               Dial.
               immutab
               .
               )
               
                 he
                 who
                 called
                 himself
                 a
                 Viae
                 ,
                 called
              
               the
               
                 Sign
                 his
                 Blood.
              
               
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               62.
               
               The
               blessed
               Body
               of
               Christ
               not
               being
               contained
               in
               the
               Bread
               ,
               can
               be
               eaten
               ,
               or
               it
               cannot
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               That
               Body
               ,
               which
               is
               
                 not
                 contained
              
               there
               ,
               
                 viz.
                 His
                 Natural
                 Body
              
               ,
               cannot
               be
               eaten
               ;
               but
               his
               Sacramental
               Body
               which
               is
               Spiritually
               there
               ,
               may
               ;
               therefore
               we
               do
               
                 not
                 maintain
              
               that
               we
               eat
               the
               Body
               which
               is
               not
               contained
               
                 in
                 the
                 Bread
              
               ;
               but
               that
               which
               is
               therewith
               given
               to
               the
               Faithful
               we
               do
               eat
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Doth
               it
               not
               imply
               a
               great
               contradiction
               ,
               seeing
               you
               hold
               ,
               the
               Body
               is
               eaten
               in
               the
               Eucharist
               ,
               and
               not
               eaten
               in
               the
               Eucharist
               .
            
          
           
             
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               No.
               We
               do
               not
               say
               
                 his
                 Body
                 is
                 not
                 eaten
                 :
                 we
                 affirm
              
               it
               is
               ,
               but
               
                 not
                 Carnally
              
               ,
               but
               Spiritually
               ;
               so
               that
               it
               
                 is
                 eaten
              
               by
               the
               
                 Faithful
                 ,
                 not
                 eaten
              
               by
               the
               
                 unworthy
                 receiver
              
               ;
               to
               maintain
               (
               as
               you
               do
               )
               
                 that
                 it
                 is
                 eaten
              
               and
               
                 not
                 eaten
              
               ,
               at
               the
               
                 same
                 time
              
               by
               the
               
                 same
                 person
              
               ,
               would
               be
               a
               contradiction
               ;
               but
               it
               is
               none
               to
               affirm
               that
               it
               
                 is
                 eaten
              
               by
               the
               worthy
               ,
               and
               
                 not
                 eaten
              
               by
               the
               unworthy
               receiver
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             Of
             Liturgy
             in
             an
             unknown
             Tongue
             .
          
           
             
               PA.
               
            
             
               63.
               
               That
               which
               the
               Apostles
               practised
               ,
               is
               either
               lawful
               for
               us
               to
               practise
               ,
               or
               it
               is
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               Every
               thing
               they
               practised
               is
               
                 not
                 lawful
                 for
                 us
              
               to
               practise
               ,
               for
               
                 some
                 things
              
               they
               did
               ,
               which
               their
               
                 Extraordinary
                 Office
              
               warranted
               ,
               which
               is
               
                 not
                 Lawful
              
               for
               
                 us
                 to
                 do
              
               ;
               but
               every
               thing
               they
               practised
               as
               
                 private
                 Christians
              
               ,
               is
               lawful
               for
               us
               to
               practise
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               If
               it
               be
               ,
               why
               do
               you
               deny
               the
               Lawfulness
               of
               the
               Liturgy
               in
               an
               unknown
               Tongue
               ,
               seeing
               the
               Apostles
               had
               their
               publick
               Liturgies
               ,
               in
               
                 Greek
                 ,
                 Syriack
              
               ,
               and
               Latin.
               
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               We
               do
               not
               deny
               the
               Lawfulness
               of
               Liturgies
               in
               
                 any
                 Tongue
              
               ,
               but
               we
               deny
               the
               
                 Lawfulness
                 of
                 using
                 them
                 among
                 ,
                 and
                 imposing
                 them
                 upon
                 a
                 People
                 ,
              
               who
               
                 understand
                 not
              
               the
               Language
               they
               
                 are
                 in
              
               .
               And
               though
               I
               deny
               the
               Liturgies
               you
               speak
               of
               ,
               to
               have
               been
               extant
               in
               the
               times
               of
               the
               Apostles
               ;
               yet
               if
               they
               were
               ,
               they
               
                 never
                 used
              
               a
               
                 Greek
                 Liturcy
              
               among
               
                 the
                 Latins
                 ,
                 but
              
               among
               
                 the
                 Greeks
              
               ,
               these
               several
               Liturgies
               being
               for
               the
               several
               Nations
               whose
               Language
               they
               were
               
                 pen'd
                 in
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               64.
               
               Seeing
               God
               hath
               commanded
               nothing
               concerning
               the
               Language
               of
               the
               publick
               Liturgy
               ,
               we
               ought
               either
               to
               follow
               the
               Commands
               of
               the
               Church
               ,
               or
               we
               ought
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               God
               hath
               commanded
               already
               ,
               that
               the
               
                 publick
                 Service
              
               should
               be
               in
               a
               
                 known
                 Tongue
              
               ,
               and
               not
               in
               an
               unknown
               ;
               so
               that
               you
               suppose
               what
               is
               
                 not
                 true
              
               ;
               the
               whole
               
                 fourteenth
                 Chapter
              
               of
               1
               Cor.
               forbids
               Prayer
               ,
               or
               Preaching
               in
               an
               
                 unknown
                 Tongue
              
               ?
            
          
           
             
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Why
               do
               you
               deny
               the
               Liturgy
               in
               an
               unknown
               Tongue
               ,
               seeing
               the
               Church
               commands
               it
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               The
               Church
               doth
               not
               command
               it
               :
               the
               
                 Roman
                 Church
              
               indeed
               doth
               ,
               but
               that
               is
               
                 not
                 the
                 Church
              
               ;
               we
               deny
               it
               therefore
               ,
               because
               
                 it
                 crosses
              
               the
               ends
               of
               Prayer
               ,
               which
               is
               Edification
               ,
               and
               because
               God
               hath
               forbid
               it
               in
               the
               
                 forecited
                 place
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               65.
               
               The
               Man
               that
               prays
               and
               gives
               thanks
               in
               an
               unknown
               Tongue
               ,
               either
               doth
               well
               ,
               or
               he
               doth
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               He
               that
               gives
               thanks
               or
               prays
               in
               
                 a
                 Tongue
                 unknown
                 to
                 himself
              
               ,
               doth
               
                 not
                 well
              
               :
               and
               he
               that
               
                 publickly
                 prays
              
               ,
               and
               
                 gives
                 thanks
              
               in
               
                 a
                 Tongue
                 unknown
              
               to
               his
               Auditors
               ,
               doth
               
                 not
                 well
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Why
               do
               you
               condemn
               that
               place
               of
               Scripture
               ,
               
                 1
                 Cor.
                 14.
                 17.
              
               
               Thou
               indeed
               givest
               thanks
               well
               ,
               but
               the
               other
               is
               not
               edified
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               We
               do
               not
               condemn
               that
               place
               .
               The
               Apostle
               there
               speaks
               of
               
                 the
                 matter
              
               of
               such
               a
               person's
               Thanksgiving
               ,
               which
               
                 he
                 says
                 may
                 be
                 good
              
               ;
               but
               at
               the
               same
               time
               
                 he
                 condemns
              
               the
               manner
               ,
               the
               doing
               it
               in
               an
               
                 unknown
                 Tongue
              
               ,
               because
               others
               are
               
                 not
                 edified
              
               ;
               and
               he
               commands
               ,
               vers
               .
               26.
               that
               
                 all
                 things
                 be
                 done
                 to
                 edifying
                 .
              
               This
               then
               being
               a
               Breach
               of
               that
               Command
               ,
               is
               
                 not
                 lawful
              
               ;
               the
               
                 Apostle
                 says
              
               ,
               he
               
                 may
                 give
                 thanks
                 well
              
               for
               the
               matter
               ,
               but
               not
               in
               a
               
                 right
                 manner
              
               ,
               seeing
               the
               
                 other
                 is
                 not
                 edified
              
               :
               For
               which
               reason
               we
               condemn
               the
               use
               of
               a
               Liturgy
               in
               an
               
                 unknown
                 Tongue
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               66.
               
               That
               which
               is
               praised
               in
               Scripture
               ,
               and
               proved
               to
               be
               pleasing
               unto
               God
               ,
               is
               either
               lawful
               and
               expedient
               for
               us
               to
               prastise
               ,
               or
               it
               is
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               That
               which
               is
               proved
               to
               be
               
                 pleasing
                 to
              
               God
               for
               us
               to
               do
               ,
               is
               lawful
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Why
               then
               do
               you
               deny
               the
               Liturgy
               in
               an
               unknown
               Tongue
               ?
               seeing
               the
               Apostle
               says
               ,
               
                 1
                 Cor.
                 14.
                 2.
              
               
               He
               that
               speaketh
               with
               Tongues
               ,
               speaketh
               not
               to
               men
               ,
               but
               God
               ;
               and
               
                 vers
                 .
                 14.
              
               
               If
               I
               pray
               with
               Tongues
               ,
               my
               Spirit
               prayeth
               ,
               but
               my
               Understanding
               is
               unfruitful
               ;
               and
               
                 vers
                 .
                 30.
              
               to
               speak
               with
               Tongues
               forbid
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               For
               God's
               sake
               ,
               Sir
               ,
               consider
               how
               strangely
               you
               argue
               ,
               this
               is
               the
               
                 very
                 reason
              
               why
               we
               
                 Condemn
                 publick
                 
                 Prayer
              
               in
               an
               
                 unknown
                 Tongue
              
               ,
               because
               it
               is
               
                 not
                 to
                 Edification
              
               ;
               and
               because
               the
               Understanding
               is
               unfruitful
               ,
               and
               we
               ought
               to
               pray
               with
               Understanding
               ,
               1
               Cor.
               14.
               15.
               the
               Apostle
               here
               in
               
                 vers
                 .
                 30.
                 commends
                 speaking
                 with
                 Tongues
                 ,
              
               and
               so
               do
               we
               ,
               but
               it
               is
               one
               thing
               to
               
                 speak
                 with
                 Tongues
              
               ,
               and
               another
               to
               speak
               in
               an
               
                 unknown
                 Tongue
              
               ;
               it
               is
               not
               unlawful
               to
               speak
               to
               ,
               or
               Pray
               with
               the
               People
               in
               Greek
               and
               Hebrew
               ,
               if
               they
               understand
               it
               ,
               or
               I
               ,
               or
               any
               other
               ,
               interpret
               it
               to
               them
               .
               But
               to
               speak
               or
               pray
               in
               a
               Tongue
               ,
               they
               do
               
                 not
                 understand
              
               ,
               without
               interpreting
               what
               I
               say
               ;
               is
               
                 expresly
                 forbid
              
               by
               the
               Apostle
               ,
               1
               Cor.
               14.
               27
               ,
               28.
               
               
                 If
                 any
                 Man
                 speak
                 in
                 an
                 unknown
                 Tongue
                 ,
                 let
                 one
                 interpret
                 ;
                 but
                 if
                 there
                 be
                 no
                 Interpreter
                 ,
                 let
                 him
                 keep
                 silence
                 in
                 the
                 Church
                 .
              
               Thus
               Prayers
               in
               an
               
                 unknown
                 Tongue
              
               ,
               are
               so
               far
               from
               being
               recommended
               ,
               that
               they
               are
               
                 expresly
                 forbidden
              
               ;
               therefore
               we
               reject
               them
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             Of
             Confession
             and
             Absolution
             .
          
           
             
               PA.
               
            
             
               67.
               
               
                 The
                 Apostles
                 being
                 made
                 Spiritual
                 Judges
                 by
                 our
                 Lord
                 ,
                 had
                 power
                 from
                 him
                 ,
                 to
                 bind
                 and
                 loose
                 from
                 Sin
                 ,
                 or
                 they
                 had
                 not
                 .
              
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               They
               had
               
                 no
                 power
              
               to
               bind
               and
               loose
               from
               the
               Guilt
               of
               Sin
               ;
               but
               a
               power
               of
               binding
               and
               loosing
               they
               had
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               
                 Why
                 then
                 do
                 you
                 reject
                 Absolution
                 ?
              
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               We
               do
               not
               reject
               it
               ,
               but
               the
               Absolution
               of
               the
               
                 Church
                 of
                 Rome
              
               we
               do
               ,
               which
               pretends
               to
               more
               than
               Christ
               ever
               gave
               :
               and
               we
               also
               deny
               that
               it
               is
               a
               Sacrament
               as
               Baptism
               ,
               and
               the
               
                 Lord's
                 Supper
                 are
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               68.
               
               
                 The
                 Laity
                 are
                 obliged
                 to
                 disclose
                 their
                 Faults
                 to
                 their
                 Judges
                 ,
                 or
                 they
                 are
                 not
                 .
              
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               If
               by
               their
               Judges
               you
               mean
               
                 their
                 Ministers
              
               ,
               they
               are
               not
               their
               Judges
               :
               and
               they
               are
               not
               obliged
               to
               
                 disclose
                 all
              
               their
               faults
               to
               them
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               
                 If
                 not
                 ,
                 how
                 can
                 they
                 absolve
                 them
                 from
                 what
                 they
                 know
                 not
                 .
              
            
          
           
             
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               Absolution
               is
               either
               general
               or
               particular
               ;
               the
               general
               is
               sufficient
               ,
               except
               in
               
                 particular
                 grievous
                 Sins
              
               which
               trouble
               the
               Conscience
               ,
               for
               these
               we
               enjoyn
               a
               
                 particular
                 Absolution
              
               :
               but
               for
               the
               general
               ,
               it
               is
               sufficient
               for
               the
               Ministers
               to
               know
               in
               general
               that
               they
               
                 are
                 Sinners
              
               ,
               and
               see
               that
               they
               profess
               to
               be
               Penitent
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               69.
               
               
                 Christ
                 in
                 speaking
                 these
                 words
                 ,
                 whose
                 Sins
                 ye
                 forgive
                 ,
              
               &c.
               John
               20.
               24.
               
                 spoke
                 true
                 or
                 false
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               He
               spoke
               true
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               
                 Why
                 then
                 do
                 you
                 deny
                 the
                 power
                 of
                 Absolution
                 ?
              
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               We
               do
               not
               deny
               the
               power
               :
               but
               we
               condemn
               your
               abuse
               of
               it
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               70.
               
               
                 That
                 which
                 the
                 Scripture
                 commands
                 ,
                 either
                 is
                 necessary
                 ,
                 or
                 it
                 is
                 not
                 .
              
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               Whatever
               the
               Scripture
               commands
               as
               
                 our
                 Duty
              
               ,
               is
               necessary
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               
                 Why
                 then
                 do
                 you
                 deny
                 that
                 of
                 St.
              
               James
               5.
               16.
               
               
                 Confess
                 your
                 faults
                 one
                 to
                 another
                 .
              
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               We
               do
               not
               deny
               it
               ,
               but
               we
               say
               it
               doth
               
                 not
                 prove
                 the
                 necessity
              
               of
               Confession
               to
               a
               Priest
               ,
               it
               speaks
               of
               confessing
               one
               to
               another
               ,
               to
               our
               Brethren
               ;
               therefore
               by
               no
               means
               proves
               Confession
               of
               all
               our
               Sins
               to
               a
               Priest
               ,
               necessary
               to
               Salvation
               .
               We
               condemn
               not
               the
               use
               of
               Confession
               ,
               but
               the
               making
               it
               necessary
               to
               Salvation
               ,
               and
               part
               of
               a
               Sacrament
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             Of
             Purgatory
             .
          
           
             
               PA.
               
            
             
               71.
               
               
                 There
                 either
                 is
                 a
                 Penal
                 Prison
                 or
                 Place
                 of
                 temporal
                 Punishment
                 and
                 Payment
                 after
                 this
                 Life
                 ,
                 or
                 there
                 is
                 not
                 ?
              
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               There
               is
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               
                 Why
                 then
                 do
                 you
                 falsify
                 that
                 Scripture
                 ,
              
               Zach.
               9.
               11.
               
               
                 Thou
                 also
                 in
                 the
                 Blood
                 of
                 thy
                 Covenant
                 ;
                 hast
                 set
                 forth
                 thy
                 Prisoners
                 out
                 of
                 the
                 Pit
                 ,
                 wherein
                 there
                 is
                 no
                 Water
                 ?
              
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               We
               do
               not
               falsify
               it
               ;
               but
               
                 you
                 do
              
               ;
               it
               is
               not
               
                 Thou
                 in
                 the
                 Blood
                 of
                 thy
                 Covenant
                 ,
              
               but
               
                 as
                 for
                 thee
                 in
                 the
                 Blood
                 of
                 thy
                 Covenant
                 ,
              
               (
               or
               
                 whose
                 Covenant
                 is
                 by
                 Blood
                 )
                 I
                 have
                 sent
                 forth
                 thy
                 Prisoners
                 out
                 of
                 the
                 Pit
                 ,
                 wherein
                 
                 there
                 was
                 no
                 Water
                 :
              
               and
               it
               speaks
               not
               a
               word
               
                 of
                 Purgatory
              
               ,
               but
               of
               the
               Deliverance
               of
               the
               Israelites
               ,
               and
               the
               Redemption
               by
               the
               Messiah
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               
                 Why
                 do
                 you
                 falsify
                 that
                 Text.
              
               Mal.
               3.
               3.
               
               
                 He
                 shall
                 purify
                 the
                 Sons
                 of
              
               Levi.
               
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               We
               do
               not
               falsify
               it
               ,
               but
               we
               affirm
               it
               
                 proves
                 nothing
                 of
                 Purgatory
              
               ,
               but
               of
               the
               Conversion
               ,
               even
               of
               the
               Priests
               ,
               by
               the
               
                 Gospel
                 of
                 Christ
              
               ,
               which
               we
               find
               was
               fulfilled
               ,
               Acts
               6.
               7.
               
               Or
               if
               it
               did
               speak
               of
               a
               Purgatory
               it
               speaks
               only
               of
               one
               ,
               for
               the
               
                 Sons
                 of
                 Levi
              
               ;
               and
               therefore
               says
               nothing
               of
               such
               ,
               
                 a
                 third
                 Place
              
               as
               you
               maintain
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               
                 But
                 you
                 falsify
                 that
                 Text
              
               ,
               1
               Cor.
               3.
               15.
               
               
                 The
                 work
                 of
                 every
                 Man
                 shall
                 be
                 manifest
                 ,
                 and
                 yet
                 he
                 himself
                 shall
                 be
                 saved
                 ,
                 yet
                 so
                 as
                 by
                 Fire
                 .
              
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               We
               do
               not
               ;
               but
               we
               say
               it
               is
               evident
               that
               this
               
                 whole
                 Text
              
               is
               an
               allusion
               to
               the
               
                 tryal
                 of
                 Metals
              
               by
               the
               Fire
               ,
               and
               all
               it
               says
               ,
               is
               
                 this
                 ,
                 That
                 he
                 who
                 hath
                 held
                 firm
                 the
                 Foundation
                 ,
                 if
                 he
                 hath
                 taught
                 any
                 vain
                 ungrounded
                 Doctrins
                 ;
                 yet
                 ,
                 if
                 in
                 the
                 main
                 he
                 be
                 found
                 sincere
                 ,
                 he
                 shall
                 be
                 saved
                 ,
                 but
                 as
                 one
                 that
                 scapeth
                 out
                 of
                 the
                 Fire
                 :
              
               and
               therefore
               speaks
               nothing
               of
               a
               
                 Place
                 of
                 Purification
              
               ,
               after
               this
               Life
               ,
               much
               less
               of
               
                 a
                 place
              
               of
               
                 temporal
                 Punishment
              
               ;
               for
               the
               Apostle
               doth
               not
               say
               
                 he
                 shall
                 be
                 saved
                 by
                 Fire
                 ,
              
               but
               
                 so
                 as
                 by
                 Fire
              
               ,
               that
               is
               ,
               
                 as
                 one
                 that
                 hath
                 escaped
                 the
                 Fire
                 ,
              
               with
               much
               Difficulty
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               
                 But
                 why
                 do
                 you
                 falsify
                 that
                 Text.
              
               Mat.
               5.
               25.
               
               
                 Be
                 at
                 an
                 agreement
                 with
                 the
                 Adversary
                 quickly
                 ,
              
               &c.
               
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               We
               do
               not
               falsify
               it
               ;
               our
               Saviour
               speaks
               there
               of
               the
               Prison
               of
               Hell
               ,
               and
               of
               no
               other
               ;
               therefore
               we
               say
               there
               is
               
                 no
                 ground
              
               for
               
                 Purgatory
                 in
              
               this
               Place
               ,
               therefore
               
                 we
                 deny
              
               it
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               72.
               
               
                 Those
                 Souls
                 which
                 our
                 Blessed
                 Saviour
                 and
                 his
                 Apostles
                 ,
                 raised
                 from
                 Death
                 ,
                 were
                 either
                 in
                 Heaven
                 or
                 Hell
                 ,
                 or
                 they
                 were
                 not
                 :
                 If
                 not
                 ,
                 why
                 then
                 do
                 you
                 deny
                 a
                 third
                 Place
                 .
              
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               
                 I
                 might
                 very
                 well
              
               except
               against
               this
               loose
               and
               idle
               way
               of
               arguing
               ,
               from
               such
               unknown
               Points
               ;
               but
               I
               wave
               it
               ,
               and
               tell
               you
               it
               was
               not
               necessary
               they
               should
               
                 be
                 either
              
               in
               Heaven
               or
               Hell.
               
            
          
           
             
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               
                 Then
                 they
                 must
                 be
                 in
                 a
                 third
                 Place
                 .
              
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               'T
               is
               true
               ,
               but
               you
               cannot
               argue
               that
               because
               on
               such
               an
               extraordinary
               occasion
               
                 God
                 kept
              
               them
               in
               a
               
                 third
                 Place
              
               for
               a
               time
               ;
               therefore
               there
               is
               
                 a
                 third
                 Place
              
               for
               all
               to
               go
               to
               ;
               but
               if
               we
               should
               grant
               that
               ,
               there
               is
               
                 no
                 Consequence
              
               from
               hence
               that
               will
               
                 prove
                 that
                 place
              
               a
               place
               
                 of
                 Punishment
                 and
                 Purification
              
               ,
               if
               there
               were
               
                 a
                 third
                 Place
              
               destined
               to
               Souls
               ,
               (
               which
               we
               deny
               )
               yet
               it
               doth
               not
               thence
               follow
               ,
               it
               must
               be
               a
               Purgatory
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               73.
               
               
                 Christ's
                 descensiou
                 either
                 was
                 into
                 the
                 Hell
                 of
                 the
                 Damned
                 ,
                 or
                 it
                 was
                 not
                 .
              
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               What
               if
               it
               was
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               
                 Then
                 you
                 Blaspheme
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               I
               deny
               that
               Christ
               might
               
                 go
                 down
              
               there
               to
               
                 triumph
                 over
                 the
                 Powers
                 of
                 Darkness
                 upon
                 their
                 own
                 Ground
              
               ;
               or
               for
               several
               other
               reasons
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               
                 But
                 if
                 it
                 was
                 not
                 into
                 the
                 Hell
                 of
                 the
                 Damned
                 ,
                 it
                 was
                 into
                 a
                 third
                 Place
                 .
              
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               What
               then
               ?
               was
               it
               therefore
               into
               Purgatory
               :
               suppose
               that
               
                 Expression
                 ,
                 he
                 descended
                 into
                 Hell
              
               be
               meant
               only
               of
               the
               grave
               ,
               or
               the
               
                 State
                 of
                 the
                 Dead
              
               ,
               as
               
                 Sheol
                 in
                 Hebrew
              
               ,
               and
               Hades
               in
               Greek
               signify
               :
               what
               is
               that
               to
               Purgatory
               ?
               I
               still
               affirm
               therefore
               with
               St.
               Austin
               (
               Ser.
               232.
               )
               
                 Let
                 no
                 Man
                 deceive
                 himself
                 ,
                 for
                 there
                 are
                 two
                 Places
                 ,
                 and
                 there
                 is
                 no
                 third
                 ;
                 he
                 that
                 deserves
                 not
                 to
                 reign
                 with
                 Christ
                 ,
                 shall
                 without
                 doubt
                 perish
                 with
                 the
                 Devil
                 .
              
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               74.
               
               
                 When
                 Christ
                 Preached
                 to
                 the
                 Souls
                 in
                 Prison
              
               1
               Pet.
               3.
               19.
               
               
                 It
                 was
                 either
                 to
                 the
                 damned
                 ,
                 or
                 it
                 was
                 not
                 .
              
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               We
               are
               no
               where
               told
               that
               Christ
               went
               and
               Preached
               unto
               the
               Damned
               in
               Hell
               ,
               or
               any
               Spirits
               in
               a
               
                 separate
                 State.
              
               That
               which
               the
               Apostle
               says
               ,
               is
               ,
               
                 That
                 there
                 are
                 many
                 Spirits
                 now
                 in
                 Prison
                 ,
                 to
                 whom
                 Christ
                 once
                 Preached
                 by
                 his
                 Spirit
                 in
                 the
                 Ministry
                 of
              
               Noah
               :
               So
               this
               speaking
               nothing
               ,
               as
               appears
               from
               v.
               20.
               of
               
                 Christ's
                 Preaching
                 to
                 Spirits
                 already
                 in
                 Prison
                 ,
              
               you
               can
               draw
               no
               Argument
               from
               thence
               .
            
          
        
         
           
           
             Of
             Venial
             and
             Mortal
             Sins
             .
          
           
             
               PA.
               
            
             
               75.
               
               All
               kinds
               of
               Sin
               ,
               either
               rob
               the
               Soul
               of
               Justice
               ,
               and
               make
               her
               guilty
               of
               Damnation
               ,
               or
               they
               do
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               Guilty
               of
               Damnation
               
                 is
                 an
              
               odd
               Phrase
               ,
               but
               all
               kinds
               of
               Sin
               
                 do
                 make
                 a
              
               Soul
               deserve
               Damnation
               ,
               though
               every
               Sin
               
                 doth
                 not
              
               rob
               it
               of
               Justice
               ,
               or
               Righteousness
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               If
               they
               do
               ,
               why
               then
               doth
               Christ
               make
               three
               different
               sorts
               of
               Sin
               ,
               of
               which
               the
               least
               makes
               a
               Man
               guilty
               of
               Damnation
               ?
               Mat.
               5.
               23.
               
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               If
               the
               least
               of
               them
               
                 makes
                 a
                 Man
                 guilty
                 of
                 Damnation
                 ,
              
               (
               as
               you
               Phrase
               it
               )
               then
               
                 every
                 Sin
              
               does
               so
               :
               and
               this
               
                 overthrows
                 you
              
               ;
               but
               I
               believe
               you
               mistake
               your
               
                 own
                 meaning
              
               .
               However
               you
               
                 beg
                 the
              
               question
               ,
               for
               Christ
               doth
               not
               there
               make
               
                 three
                 different
                 kinds
              
               of
               Sin
               ,
               but
               speaks
               
                 of
                 the
                 different
                 degrees
              
               of
               Punishments
               ,
               alluding
               to
               the
               Punishments
               among
               the
               Jews
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               76.
               
               All
               Sins
               are
               either
               Mortal
               ,
               and
               sufficient
               to
               break
               Charity
               betwixt
               God
               and
               Man
               ,
               or
               they
               are
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               In
               their
               
                 own
                 Nature
              
               all
               Sins
               are
               Mortal
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               If
               they
               be
               ,
               then
               the
               Apostles
               themselves
               are
               not
               in
               the
               Charity
               of
               God
               ,
               seeing
               it
               is
               said
               in
               St.
               James
               3.
               2.
               
               We
               all
               offend
               in
               many
               things
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               'T
               is
               true
               ,
               the
               Apostles
               themselves
               had
               not
               been
               in
               the
               Charity
               of
               God
               upon
               that
               account
               ,
               if
               the
               Grace
               of
               Christ
               had
               not
               been
               stronger
               than
               the
               guilt
               of
               those
               Sins
               :
               so
               that
               we
               do
               not
               deny
               ,
               but
               there
               
                 are
                 Sins
              
               ,
               which
               we
               call
               Sins
               
                 of
                 humane
                 Infirmity
              
               ,
               which
               in
               a
               regenerate
               Person
               are
               but
               venial
               ,
               because
               the
               Grace
               of
               Christ
               forgives
               them
               ,
               though
               in
               their
               
                 own
                 Nature
              
               they
               are
               mortal
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               77.
               
               All
               idle
               Words
               either
               are
               mortal
               Sins
               ,
               or
               they
               are
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               All
               idle
               sinful
               
                 Words
                 are
                 in
              
               their
               own
               Nature
               mortal
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               If
               they
               be
               ,
               how
               can
               any
               one
               hope
               for
               Salvation
               ,
               seeing
               
               Man
               (
               morally
               speaking
               )
               can
               avoid
               idle
               Words
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               By
               the
               grace
               of
               Christ
               ,
               pardoning
               those
               
                 unabidable
                 Imperfections
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               78.
               
               All
               Sins
               are
               even
               unto
               Death
               ,
               or
               they
               are
               ●ot
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               If
               by
               that
               Expression
               you
               mean
               
                 deserving
                 Death
              
               ,
               ●hey
               are
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Then
               you
               make
               Christ
               a
               Lyar
               ,
               who
               said
               ,
               There
               is
               Sin
               unto
               Death
               ,
               and
               a
               Sin
               not
               unto
               Death
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               
                 It
                 was
              
               not
               Christ
               but
               St.
               
                 John
                 who
                 said
                 so
              
               ,
               1
               Jo.
               16.
               
               But
               he
               there
               speaks
               not
               of
               a
               Sin
               which
               barely
               deserves
               ●eath
               ,
               but
               of
               that
               Sin
               ,
               which
               ,
               whosoever
               commits
               it
               ,
               shall
               ●ertainly
               dye
               Eternally
               ,
               
                 that
                 is
              
               ,
               the
               Sin
               against
               the
               Holy
               Ghost
               ;
               
                 he
                 doth
              
               not
               say
               there
               is
               a
               Sin
               not
               deserving
               Death
               ,
               ●ut
               there
               is
               a
               Sin
               ,
               not
               unto
               Death
               ,
               
                 by
                 which
                 as
                 appears
                 by
                 v.
                 18.
                 ;
                 he
                 means
              
               those
               Sins
               of
               daily
               Incursion
               in
               the
               Regenerate
               ,
               which
               though
               they
               deserve
               Death
               ,
               yet
               they
               do
               not
               bring
               it
               ;
               
                 because
                 the
              
               Grace
               of
               Christ
               covers
               and
               forgives
               them
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             Of
             Invocation
             of
             Angels
             and
             Saints
             .
          
           
             
               PA.
               
            
             
               79.
               
               The
               Enjoyment
               of
               God
               ,
               Angels
               ,
               Saints
               ,
               and
               the
               Glory
               of
               Heaven
               ,
               either
               robs
               Men
               of
               their
               Knowledge
               ,
               or
               it
               doth
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               It
               doth
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               If
               not
               ,
               why
               do
               you
               deny
               the
               Prophets
               now
               in
               Heaven
               can
               know
               things
               at
               a
               distance
               ,
               as
               well
               as
               they
               did
               on
               Earth
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               We
               deny
               not
               but
               God
               may
               reveal
               things
               to
               them
               in
               an
               
                 extraordinary
                 manner
              
               ,
               as
               well
               as
               when
               they
               were
               
                 on
                 Earth
              
               ;
               but
               as
               his
               
                 revealing
                 some
              
               things
               to
               them
               
                 on
                 Earth
              
               ,
               did
               not
               prove
               they
               knew
               
                 all
                 things
                 ;
                 so
              
               neither
               will
               it
               prove
               they
               
                 know
                 all
                 things
              
               now
               :
               that
               Knowledge
               then
               ,
               while
               here
               ,
               being
               
                 only
                 particular
              
               and
               extraordinary
               ,
               they
               are
               not
               rob'd
               of
               ,
               if
               they
               
                 have
                 it
                 not
              
               ;
               but
               if
               they
               
                 have
                 it
              
               ,
               what
               is
               that
               to
               praying
               to
               them
               ?
            
          
           
             
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               80.
               
               The
               damned
               Spirits
               of
               Hell
               either
               know
               mor●
               than
               the
               Blessed
               Souls
               ,
               in
               the
               Glory
               of
               the
               Father
               ,
               or
               they
               do
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               They
               do
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               If
               not
               ,
               why
               do
               you
               acknowledge
               the
               Devils
               to
               understand
               our
               most
               secret
               Thoughts
               and
               Prayers
               ,
               and
               not
               th●
               Saints
               and
               Angels
               also
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               We
               do
               not
               acknowledge
               that
               the
               Devils
               understand
               our
               thoughts
               ,
               we
               say
               ,
               it
               is
               Blasphemy
               ,
               to
               assert
               it
               .
               For
               
                 God
                 only
              
               knows
               the
               Thoughts
               :
               but
               we
               do
               affirm
               the
               Devils
               who
               are
               
                 always
                 about
                 us
              
               ,
               do
               know
               what
               
                 we
                 speak
              
               and
               act
               ;
               but
               the
               Saints
               are
               at
               
                 a
                 distance
              
               from
               us
               ,
               and
               therefore
               cannot
               ;
               and
               the
               Angels
               (
               if
               the
               Opinion
               of
               every
               Persons
               ,
               having
               one
               for
               a
               Guardian
               ,
               be
               true
               )
               may
               
                 possibly
                 know
              
               the
               actions
               of
               those
               whom
               they
               are
               Guardians
               to
               ,
               but
               this
               proves
               no
               knowledge
               of
               the
               Thoughts
               ,
               nor
               ,
               if
               they
               did
               know
               them
               ,
               is
               there
               any
               Reason
               we
               should
               pray
               to
               them
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               81.
               
               The
               Angels
               of
               God
               have
               prayed
               for
               those
               on
               Earth
               ,
               or
               they
               have
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               They
               have
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Why
               then
               do
               you
               not
               agree
               with
               us
               ,
               that
               Angels
               pray
               for
               us
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               We
               do
               agree
               with
               you
               that
               they
               pray
               for
               us
               ,
               but
               what
               is
               that
               to
               our
               
                 Praying
                 to
                 them
              
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               82.
               
               It
               is
               either
               Lawful
               to
               pray
               to
               the
               Angels
               ,
               or
               it
               is
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               It
               is
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               If
               not
               ,
               why
               do
               you
               accuse
               Jacob
               of
               an
               Error
               ,
               in
               invocating
               the
               Angel
               to
               bless
               his
               Children
               ?
               Gen.
               48
               16.
               
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               Jacob
               did
               not
               there
               invocate
               any
               created
               Angel
               ,
               
                 but
                 the
              
               Angel
               
                 of
                 the
              
               Covenant
               ,
               the
               Lord
               Jesus
               Christ.
               
                 So
                 saith
              
               St.
               
                 Athanasius
                 ,
                 (
                 orat
                 .
                 4.
                 in
                 Arrian
                 .
                 )
              
               the
               Patriarch
               Jacob
               in
               his
               Prayer
               joined
               none
               with
               God
               ,
               but
               him
               only
               who
               is
               the
               Word
               ,
               whom
               he
               calls
               Angel
               ;
               
                 so
                 that
                 we
                 do
                 not
                 condemn
                 him
                 of
                 an
                 Error
                 .
              
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Why
               do
               you
               condemn
               this
               Text
               ,
               Job
               .
               5.
               1.
               
               Call
               therefore
               ,
               and
               turn
               to
               thee
               some
               of
               the
               Saints
               .
            
          
           
             
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               
                 We
                 do
              
               not
               
                 condemn
                 that
              
               Text
               ,
               
                 but
                 we
                 may
              
               justly
               condemn
               you
               for
               alledging
               it
               
                 after
                 such
                 a
              
               manner
               ,
               
                 and
                 to
                 such
                 a
              
               purpose
               :
               
                 the
                 Words
                 are
              
               ,
               Call
               now
               if
               there
               be
               any
               that
               will
               answer
               thee
               ,
               and
               to
               which
               of
               the
               Saints
               wilt
               thou
               turn
               ?
               
                 whereby
                 Eliphaz
              
               upbraids
               Job
               ,
               as
               unworthy
               of
               such
               a
               Privilege
               as
               he
               had
               enjoyed
               in
               
                 Chap.
                 4.
                 v.
              
               16.
               of
               a
               Vision
               to
               instruct
               him
               ,
               
                 but
                 says
              
               nothing
               of
               Prayer
               to
               Saints
               ,
               or
               any
               thing
               like
               it
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Why
               do
               you
               condemn
               that
               
                 Hos.
                 12.
                 4.
                 
                 Jacob
              
               prevailed
               against
               the
               Angel
               ,
               and
               wept
               ,
               and
               prayed
               to
               him
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               
                 We
                 do
              
               not
               
                 condemn
                 it
                 :
                 the
              
               Prophet
               there
               speaks
               of
               the
               Angel
               which
               he
               met
               
                 in
                 Bethel
                 ,
                 Gen.
              
               23.
               24.
               
               Which
               Angel
               was
               no
               created
               Angel
               ,
               but
               Christ
               ;
               for
               
                 Gen.
                 32.
                 30.
                 
                 Jacob
              
               calls
               him
               God
               :
               
                 now
                 will
                 it
              
               follow
               ,
               
                 that
                 because
              
               Jacob
               worshipped
               God
               ,
               
                 therefore
                 we
                 must
              
               invocate
               a
               Created
               Angel
               ?
               
                 Are
                 these
              
               Arguments
               for
               Men
               of
               Reason
               
                 to
                 use
              
               ?
            
          
        
         
           
             Of
             the
             Worshipping
             of
             Angels
             ,
             and
             Images
             .
          
           
             
               PA.
               
            
             
               83.
               
               When
               St.
               John
               in
               the
               Apocalypse
               22.
               8.
               fell
               down
               to
               adore
               before
               the
               Feet
               of
               the
               Angel
               ,
               be
               knew
               it
               either
               to
               be
               lawful
               ,
               or
               it
               was
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               It
               was
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Then
               you
               accuse
               the
               most
               Wise
               and
               Excellent
               Apostles
               of
               gross
               Ignorance
               ,
               and
               wilful
               Idolatry
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               We
               do
               not
               accuse
               them
               of
               
                 gross
                 Ignorance
              
               ,
               it
               was
               no
               
                 invincible
                 Ignorance
              
               ;
               for
               it
               is
               
                 plain
                 ,
                 St.
              
               John
               
                 took
                 him
                 for
                 Christ
              
               ,
               in
               that
               the
               Argument
               he
               uses
               to
               
                 withhold
                 him
              
               is
               ,
               
                 that
                 he
                 was
                 a
                 Created
                 Spirit
                 ,
              
               and
               such
               an
               Ignorance
               St.
               John
               was
               
                 guilty
                 of
              
               ;
               but
               for
               
                 wilful
                 Idolatry
              
               We
               do
               not
               accuse
               him
               ,
               he
               did
               not
               ,
               as
               
                 you
                 do
                 ,
                 worship
                 that
                 which
                 he
                 knew
                 not
                 to
                 be
                 God
                 ,
              
               but
               he
               was
               about
               to
               worship
               that
               which
               
                 he
                 took
                 for
                 God.
              
               I
               wonder
               how
               you
               can
               alledge
               this
               Text
               in
               your
               Favour
               ,
               which
               is
               so
               
                 clearly
                 against
                 you
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Again
               ,
               when
               Lot
               ador'd
               the
               Angels
               ,
               Gen.
               19.
               1.
               with
               his
               Face
               bowed
               towards
               the
               Earth
               ,
               he
               either
               committed
               Idolatry
               ,
               or
               he
               did
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               You
               beg
               the
               question
               ,
               Lot
               
                 did
                 not
                 adore
                 the
                 Angels
                 ,
                 the
                 Scripture
              
               tells
               us
               ,
               
                 he
                 rose
                 np
                 to
                 meet
                 them
                 ,
                 and
                 bowed
                 himself
                 with
                 his
                 Face
                 towards
                 the
                 Ground
              
               ;
               which
               was
               only
               a
               
                 civil
                 Salutation
              
               ,
               for
               he
               
                 took
                 them
                 only
                 for
                 Men
              
               ,
               and
               therefore
               could
               
                 not
                 adore
              
               them
               :
               So
               that
               there
               is
               
                 no
                 Argument
                 to
              
               be
               drawn
               from
               hence
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               84.
               
               All
               that
               which
               is
               recorded
               in
               Holy
               Writ
               ,
               to
               have
               been
               done
               by
               the
               known
               Saints
               of
               God
               without
               reproof
               ,
               either
               is
               Lawful
               or
               it
               is
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               
                 All
                 that
                 they
              
               so
               did
               without
               an
               extraordinary
               Call
               
                 to
                 it
                 ,
                 is
              
               Lawful
               ;
               
                 but
                 there
                 were
              
               some
               things
               
                 which
                 were
              
               peculiarly
               lawful
               to
               them
               ,
               
                 which
                 is
              
               not
               so
               to
               us
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               If
               all
               things
               they
               did
               
                 (
                 as
                 their
                 ordinary
                 Duty
              
               )
               be
               Lawful
               ,
               then
               why
               do
               you
               call
               it
               Idolatry
               to
               worship
               Images
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               Because
               the
               
                 Saints
                 of
                 God
              
               never
               worshipped
               them
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Did
               not
               John
               the
               Baptist
               ,
               the
               great
               Precursor
               of
               Christ
               ,
               worship
               the
               very
               Latchets
               of
               our
               Saviours
               Shooes
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               This
               is
               a
               pleàsant
               question
               ,
               where
               do
               you
               find
               he
               ever
               did
               ?
               The
               Scripture
               saith
               
                 no
                 such
                 thing
              
               ;
               he
               said
               indeed
               ,
               
                 he
                 was
                 not
                 worthy
                 to
                 bear
                 them
                 ,
              
               but
               he
               
                 never
                 worshipped
                 them
              
               .
               Prove
               it
               if
               you
               can
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Why
               did
               Jacob
               worship
               the
               top
               of
               Joseph's
               Rod
               ,
               Heb.
               11.
               21.
               
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               
                 He
                 did
                 not
                 ;
                 there
                 is
              
               no
               text
               of
               Scripture
               that
               says
               
                 he
                 did
                 ;
                 that
              
               place
               
                 which
                 you
              
               quote
               ,
               is
               plainly
               perverted
               ;
               
                 for
                 the
              
               words
               are
               ,
               He
               worshipped
               upon
               the
               top
               of
               his
               Staff
               ;
               
                 that
                 is
              
               ,
               leaning
               on
               it
               ;
               
                 or
                 that
              
               he
               worshipped
               leaning
               towards
               the
               Beds
               Head
               ;
               
                 and
                 therefore
              
               St.
               Jerome
               ,
               whose
               Translation
               you
               profess
               to
               follow
               ,
               (
               in
               his
               questions
               upon
               
                 Genesis
                 ,
              
               )
               rejecteth
               that
               Version
               ,
               which
               yet
               you
               retain
               :
               
                 we
                 affirm
                 then
                 still
                 that
                 the
              
               Saints
               of
               God
               did
               not
               worship
               Images
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               85.
               
               The
               holy
               Veneration
               and
               Worship
               of
               Images
               have
               either
               profited
               the
               Jews
               and
               Christians
               ,
               or
               they
               have
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               They
               have
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               How
               then
               were
               the
               Israelites
               healed
               of
               the
               biting
               of
               the
               Serpents
               in
               the
               Desarts
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               
                 Not
                 by
              
               worshipping
               any
               Image
               ,
               
                 no
                 not
                 the
              
               Brazen
               Serpent
               ;
               
                 but
                 by
              
               looking
               
                 on
                 it
                 ,
                 thereby
              
               exercising
               their
               Faith
               on
               Christ
               whom
               it
               
                 was
                 a
              
               Type
               of
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               How
               then
               did
               the
               Primitive
               Christians
               receive
               special
               benefit
               by
               venerating
               the
               Shadow
               of
               St.
               Peter
               ,
               and
               St.
               
                 Paul
                 ?
                 Acts
                 5.
                 15.
                 and
              
               19.
               11.
               
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               Here
               again
               you
               suppose
               what
               is
               not
               ;
               the
               Shadow
               of
               St.
               Peter
               healed
               many
               ,
               and
               so
               did
               St.
               Paul
               ,
               but
               they
               did
               
                 not
                 venerate
              
               or
               worship
               either
               their
               shadow
               or
               their
               Persons
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               86.
               
               It
               is
               lawful
               to
               bow
               the
               Knee
               to
               Images
               ,
               or
               it
               is
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               It
               is
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               If
               not
               ,
               why
               doth
               the
               Apostle
               say
               ,
               at
               the
               Name
               of
               Jesus
               every
               Knee
               shall
               bow
               ?
               Phil.
               2.
               8.
               
               Which
               Name
               is
               nothing
               else
               but
               an
               Image
               of
               the
               Hearing
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               
                 This
                 is
                 as
              
               impertinent
               an
               Argument
               
                 as
                 ever
                 I
              
               heard
               ;
               
                 the
                 question
                 is
              
               about
               graven
               visible
               material
               Images
               ;
               not
               about
               Images
               in
               the
               Hearing
               ;
               
                 but
                 pray
                 remember
                 St.
              
               Paul
               doth
               not
               say
               ,
               Every
               Body
               shall
               worship
               that
               Name
               :
               
                 So
                 that
                 it
                 is
              
               nothing
               to
               your
               purpose
               ,
               about
               visible
               material
               Images
               ,
               or
               worshipping
               them
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             Of
             the
             Veneration
             of
             Reliques
             .
          
           
             
               PA.
               
            
             
               87.
               
               The
               Honour
               and
               Veneration
               of
               the
               Reliques
               of
               Saints
               ,
               which
               God
               himself
               hath
               approved
               by
               many
               famous
               Miracles
               is
               good
               ,
               or
               it
               is
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               It
               is
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Why
               then
               do
               you
               condemn
               the
               Veneration
               of
               Reliques
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               Because
               God
               hath
               
                 never
                 approved
              
               it
               either
               by
               Miracles
               or
               any
               other
               way
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               88.
               
               That
               Woman
               which
               was
               miraculously
               cured
               of
               the
               Bloody-Flux
               ,
               by
               only
               touching
               the
               Hem
               of
               Christ's
               Garment
               ,
               was
               Cured
               ,
               either
               for
               venerating
               the
               Reliques
               ,
               ●●
               she
               was
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               She
               was
               not
               ,
               but
               for
               her
               Faith.
               
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Why
               then
               was
               not
               she
               Cured
               afar
               off
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               
                 That
                 is
              
               nothing
               to
               us
               ;
               
                 it
                 is
              
               sufficient
               
                 that
                 it
                 was
              
               Christs
               Pleasure
               to
               have
               it
               as
               it
               was
               ,
               
                 and
                 that
                 he
              
               tells
               
                 us
                 it
                 was
                 by
              
               Faith
               
                 she
                 was
                 Cured
                 ,
                 Matt.
              
               9.
               22.
               
               Daughter
               
                 (
                 saith
                 our
                 Saviour
              
               )
               be
               of
               good
               Comfort
               ,
               thy
               Faith
               hath
               made
               thee
               whole
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               89.
               
               The
               virtue
               of
               casting
               out
               Devils
               ,
               and
               curing
               the
               Diseases
               ,
               consisted
               in
               the
               Napkins
               and
               Handkerchiefs
               ,
               that
               had
               but
               touched
               the
               Body
               of
               
                 St.
                 Paul
              
               ,
               or
               it
               did
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               I
               cannot
               say
               that
               it
               consisted
               in
               them
               :
               but
               it
               was
               
                 conveighed
                 by
                 them
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               If
               it
               was
               why
               do
               you
               deny
               the
               veneration
               of
               Reliques
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               If
               I
               should
               allow
               that
               the
               virtue
               of
               doing
               those
               Miracles
               did
               really
               consist
               in
               those
               Napkins
               ,
               and
               Handkerchiefs
               ,
               yet
               cannot
               an
               Argument
               be
               deduc'd
               from
               hence
               that
               we
               must
               
                 worship
                 Reliques
              
               ;
               for
               those
               Napkins
               and
               Handkerchiefs
               were
               
                 never
                 Worshipped
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               90.
               
               The
               Bodies
               of
               dead
               Saints
               have
               either
               restored
               Men
               to
               Life
               ,
               or
               they
               have
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               The
               Bodies
               have
               not
               ;
               but
               God
               by
               the
               Bodies
               hath
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               If
               so
               ,
               then
               the
               Reliques
               of
               Saints
               are
               worthy
               to
               be
               Venerated
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               I
               deny
               that
               ;
               by
               
                 Moses's
                 Rod
              
               ,
               by
               
                 Elizeus's
                 Mantle
              
               ,
               and
               
                 his
                 Bones
                 ,
                 Miracles
              
               were
               wrought
               ,
               yet
               those
               
                 Reliques
                 were
                 never
                 worshipped
              
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             Of
             Free
             Will.
             
          
           
             
               PA.
               
            
             
               91.
               
               God
               either
               left
               Man
               to
               his
               own
               Free
               Wil●…
               or
               he
               did
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               If
               you
               speak
               of
               the
               
                 state
                 of
                 Man
                 before
                 the
                 Fal●…
              
               I
               answer
               ,
               God
               did
               leave
               him
               to
               his
               own
               Freewill
               ;
               but
               
                 since
                 the
                 Fall
              
               ,
               I
               affirm
               
                 God
                 hath
                 left
                 Man
                 to
                 his
                 own
                 Fre●…
                 Will
                 ,
                 as
                 to
                 moral
                 Actions
                 ,
              
               but
               
                 as
                 to
                 Spiritual
                 ,
                 he
                 hath
                 no●…
              
               So
               that
               we
               do
               not
               deny
               
                 all
                 Free
                 Will
              
               ,
               but
               only
               in
               
                 Spiritu●…
                 things
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Why
               do
               you
               falsify
               that
               Scripture
               ,
               Eccl.
               15.
               14.
               
               G●…
               from
               the
               Beginning
               made
               Man
               ,
               and
               left
               him
               in
               the
               hand
               ●●
               his
               own
               Counsel
               .
            
          
           
             
             
               Prot.
               
            
             
               That
               Passage
               is
               in
               Ecclesiasticus
               ,
               not
               in
               the
               
                 Canonical
                 Scripture
              
               ,
               and
               therefore
               of
               
                 no
                 Authority
              
               in
               this
               Case
               ;
               but
               if
               it
               were
               ,
               it
               speaks
               nothing
               of
               
                 Free
                 Will
              
               to
               
                 Spiritual
                 actions
              
               in
               Men
               since
               the
               Fall
               ;
               but
               of
               the
               Power
               which
               Adam
               had
               in
               the
               Beginning
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa
               ,
            
             
               92.
               
               The
               choice
               of
               Good
               and
               Evil
               is
               either
               left
               in
               Mans
               Free
               Will
               ,
               or
               it
               is
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               The
               whole
               choice
               of
               Moral
               goed
               and
               evil
               
                 is
                 ;
                 but
                 the
              
               right
               acceptable
               choice
               of
               Spiritual
               good
               is
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Why
               then
               do
               you
               deny
               that
               of
               Josh.
               24.
               
               Choose
               you
               this
               Day
               ,
               whom
               you
               will
               serve
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               We
               do
               not
               deny
               it
               ;
               but
               we
               say
               that
               it
               is
               nothing
               to
               your
               purpose
               :
               Seeing
               to
               chuse
               
                 Spiritual
                 good
                 or
                 evil
              
               is
               in
               Man's
               Power
               ;
               but
               to
               chuse
               it
               aright
               is
               not
               ;
               that
               is
               ,
               
                 to
                 chuse
                 it
                 from
                 a
                 right
                 Principle
                 ,
                 and
                 to
                 a
                 right
                 End.
                 
              
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Why
               do
               you
               deny
               that
               ,
               Joh.
               1.
               12.
               
               As
               many
               as
               received
               Christ
               ,
               to
               them
               he
               gave
               Power
               to
               become
               the
               Sons
               of
               God.
               
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               We
               do
               not
               deny
               it
               ;
               but
               we
               say
               that
               
                 a
                 right
                 choice
              
               of
               
                 Spiritual
                 good
              
               is
               not
               in
               Mans
               Power
               ,
               and
               this
               is
               clear
               from
               this
               very
               Text
               ;
               for
               
                 receiving
                 Christ
              
               ,
               follows
               choosing
               of
               him
               ;
               but
               till
               he
               gave
               them
               
                 more
                 Power
              
               than
               they
               had
               before
               ,
               they
               
                 could
                 not
                 chuse
                 him
                 so
              
               as
               to
               
                 become
                 the
                 Sons
              
               of
               God
               ;
               therefore
               they
               had
               
                 no
                 Power
                 Naturally
              
               to
               chuse
               him
               aright
               :
               So
               that
               this
               Text
               overthows
               your
               selves
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               93.
               
               Man
               hath
               Power
               either
               to
               keep
               his
               Virgin
               ,
               or
               he
               hath
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               If
               you
               mean
               by
               that
               Expression
               what
               the
               Apostle
               intends
               1
               Cor.
               7.
               37.
               
               I
               answer
               ,
               he
               hath
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Why
               then
               do
               you
               deny
               Free
               Will
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               We
               do
               not
               deny
               
                 Free
                 Will
              
               in
               
                 moral
                 actions
              
               ,
               such
               as
               this
               is
               ,
               where
               the
               Apostle
               is
               only
               treating
               of
               the
               Power
               of
               Guaraians
               ,
               or
               Parents
               over
               the
               Virgins
               under
               their
               Care
               ;
               but
               that
               which
               we
               deny
               it
               in
               ,
               is
               
                 Spiritual
                 Actions
              
               ,
               of
               which
               ,
               this
               is
               
                 no
                 Instance
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               94.
               
               All
               that
               God
               commands
               ,
               is
               either
               in
               Man's
               free
               Power
               ,
               or
               it
               is
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               All
               that
               God
               commands
               
                 Man
                 to
                 do
              
               by
               his
               own
               Power
               is
               ;
               but
               all
               that
               he
               commands
               ,
               such
               as
               that
               
                 Precept
                 ,
                 Thou
                 shalt
                 love
                 the
                 Lord
                 thy
                 God
                 with
                 all
                 thy
                 Heart
                 ,
              
               is
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Then
               you
               condemn
               God
               of
               Tyranny
               ,
               in
               commanding
               that
               which
               is
               not
               in
               Mans
               Free
               Power
               to
               do
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               That
               doth
               not
               follow
               ;
               as
               long
               as
               God
               will
               enable
               him
               to
               do
               that
               ,
               for
               which
               his
               own
               
                 free
                 Power
              
               is
               
                 not
                 sufficient
              
               ,
               as
               in
               the
               Text
               you
               cited
               just
               now
               ,
               
                 Joh.
                 1.
                 12.
                 
                 To
                 those
                 ,
                 whose
                 own
                 Power
                 was
                 not
                 sufficient
                 ,
                 he
                 gave
                 Power
                 to
                 become
                 the
                 Sons
                 of
                 God.
                 
              
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               But
               is
               not
               this
               as
               if
               I
               should
               threaten
               my
               Servant
               with
               horrible
               Death
               ,
               for
               not
               bringing
               me
               the
               Man
               in
               the
               Moon
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               No
               ,
               for
               if
               you
               did
               so
               ,
               you
               would
               be
               unjust
               and
               Tyrannical
               ,
               seeing
               your
               Servant
               could
               not
               do
               it
               ;
               neither
               could
               you
               
                 enable
                 him
              
               :
               but
               God
               requires
               nothing
               but
               what
               either
               
                 Man
                 can
                 do
              
               ,
               or
               God
               will
               enable
               him
               to
               perform
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             Of
             Faith
             without
             Works
             .
          
           
             
               PA.
               
            
             
               95.
               
               Faith
               working
               by
               Charity
               ,
               either
               justifies
               ,
               or
               it
               doth
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               Faith
               ,
               
                 properly
                 speaking
              
               ,
               doth
               
                 not
                 justify
              
               ;
               but
               by
               such
               a
               Faith
               we
               are
               justified
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               If
               so
               ,
               then
               your
               justifying
               Faith
               flies
               without
               Wings
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               I
               deny
               that
               ;
               for
               there
               is
               no
               such
               a
               thing
               as
               
                 a
                 Justifying
                 Faith
                 without
                 Works
              
               :
               we
               affirm
               ,
               that
               
                 no
                 Faith
              
               is
               true
               ,
               but
               that
               which
               
                 worketh
                 by
                 Love.
              
               
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               96.
               
               A
               Man
               only
               saying
               ,
               Lord
               ,
               Lord
               ,
               either
               may
               be
               Saved
               ,
               or
               he
               may
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               He
               may
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               If
               not
               ,
               then
               where
               is
               your
               justifying
               Faith
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               In
               the
               
                 word
                 of
                 God
              
               ,
               and
               the
               
                 Heart
                 of
                 every
                 true
                 Believer
              
               ,
               who
               shews
               his
               
                 Faith
                 by
              
               his
               Works
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               97.
               
               You
               either
               hope
               to
               be
               saved
               by
               believing
               in
               God
               only
               without
               Works
               ,
               or
               you
               do
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               We
               do
               hope
               to
               be
               justified
               ,
               and
               consequently
               Saved
               ,
               by
               
                 Faith
                 in
                 Christ
                 only
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Then
               the
               damned
               Spirits
               may
               expect
               Salvation
               ,
               seeing
               they
               believe
               and
               tremble
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               That
               doth
               not
               follow
               :
               that
               Faith
               which
               the
               
                 Damned
                 have
              
               is
               but
               an
               
                 Historical
                 Faith
              
               ;
               but
               the
               Faith
               by
               which
               we
               are
               justifyed
               ,
               is
               a
               Faith
               which
               
                 purifies
                 the
                 
                 Soul
              
               ,
               and
               is
               productive
               of
               
                 good
                 Works
              
               ,
               which
               the
               
                 Damned
                 cannot
                 have
              
               .
               We
               do
               
                 not
                 then
                 hope
              
               to
               be
               saved
               by
               Faith
               without
               Works
               ,
               but
               by
               Faith
               ,
               and
               not
               by
               Works
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             Of
             the
             Merit
             of
             Works
             .
          
           
             
               PA.
               
            
             
               98.
               
               Every
               Man
               will
               be
               rewarded
               at
               the
               last
               Day
               according
               to
               his
               Works
               or
               he
               will
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               He
               will
               ,
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               If
               he
               will
               ,
               then
               good
               Works
               will
               be
               meritorious
               ,
               and
               receive
               a
               good
               Reward
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               They
               will
               receive
               a
               Reward
               ,
               which
               they
               never
               deserved
               ,
               but
               which
               by
               the
               Grace
               of
               Christ
               is
               purchased
               for
               and
               given
               to
               them
               ,
               but
               not
               
                 for
                 any
                 Merit
                 in
                 them
              
               ;
               but
               by
               Virtue
               of
               his
               
                 Promise
                 and
                 free
                 Love
                 ,
                 not
              
               by
               way
               ,
               of
               Debt
               due
               to
               the
               Works
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               99.
               
               Christ
               either
               encouraged
               his
               Apostles
               to
               suffer
               Afflictions
               patiently
               in
               expectation
               of
               a
               Reward
               ,
               or
               he
               did
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               He
               did
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Why
               then
               were
               not
               their
               Persecutions
               meritorious
               and
               consequently
               our
               good
               Works
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               Because
               the
               reward
               is
               not
               given
               to
               the
               desert
               of
               their
               Works
               ,
               which
               bear
               Proportion
               with
               the
               greatness
               of
               the
               Reward
               ;
               but
               it
               comes
               only
               from
               the
               
                 pure
                 Mercy
                 and
                 Grace
                 of
                 God
                 ,
              
               and
               if
               our
               good
               Works
               give
               us
               
                 any
                 Title
              
               to
               that
               Reward
               ,
               it
               is
               not
               from
               themselves
               but
               the
               Promise
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               100.
               
               That
               Crown
               of
               Justice
               which
               St.
               Paul
               said
               was
               laid
               up
               for
               himself
               ,
               was
               either
               the
               Reward
               of
               his
               good
               Fight
               ,
               or
               it
               was
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               It
               was
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               If
               it
               was
               ,
               how
               can
               you
               deny
               the
               Merit
               of
               good
               Works
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               Because
               that
               Reward
               was
               
                 not
                 merited
              
               by
               his
               
                 good
                 Fight
              
               ,
               but
               purely
               given
               to
               him
               ,
               out
               of
               Grace
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               101.
               
               A
               Cup
               of
               cold
               Water
               given
               in
               the
               Name
               of
               a
               Disciple
               ,
               is
               either
               Meritorious
               ,
               or
               it
               is
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               It
               is
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Why
               is
               it
               said
               then
               ,
               Mat.
               10.
               42.
               
               That
               he
               who
               gives
               it
               ,
               shall
               in
               no
               wise
               lose
               his
               Reward
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               He
               shall
               not
               lose
               the
               
                 promised
                 Reward
              
               :
               but
               who
               at
               
               is
               this
               to
               deserving
               that
               
                 which
                 free
                 Grace
              
               had
               promised
               ?
            
          
        
         
           
             Of
             Holy
             and
             Religious
             Vows
             .
          
           
             
               PA.
               
            
             
               102.
               
               The
               sacred
               Vows
               which
               are
               taught
               us
               in
               the
               Holy
               Scripture
               are
               lawful
               ,
               or
               they
               are
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               They
               are
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Why
               then
               is
               not
               a
               vow
               lawful
               to
               us
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               A
               Vow
               is
               Lawful
               to
               us
               ;
               we
               do
               not
               deny
               it
               ,
               but
               the
               
                 question
                 is
              
               about
               
                 some
                 particular
                 Vows
              
               ,
               which
               we
               say
               are
               unlawful
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               103.
               
               The
               greatest
               Perfection
               of
               a
               Christian
               Life
               consists
               in
               Evangelical
               Poverty
               ,
               or
               it
               doth
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               It
               doth
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Why
               then
               do
               you
               reject
               the
               vow
               of
               Poverty
               as
               an
               humane
               Invention
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               Because
               God
               hath
               no
               where
               warranted
               it
               ,
               the
               
                 Evangelical
                 Poverty
              
               ,
               which
               so
               much
               perfects
               a
               Christian
               is
               not
               to
               renounce
               all
               
                 Worldly
                 goods
              
               ,
               but
               to
               be
               poor
               in
               Spirit
               ,
               and
               to
               be
               able
               in
               the
               
                 midst
                 of
                 Plenty
              
               to
               despise
               the
               World
               ,
               and
               its
               Riches
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               If
               it
               be
               not
               the
               greatest
               Perfection
               to
               renounce
               the
               World
               wholly
               ,
               then
               why
               did
               our
               Saviour
               say
               to
               the
               Young-Man
               ,
               Mat.
               19.
               21.
               
               Sell
               all
               that
               thou
               hast
               ,
               and
               give
               it
               to
               the
               Poor
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               Our
               Saviour
               did
               not
               there
               give
               a
               Precept
               ,
               so
               to
               do
               ,
               only
               to
               the
               Youngman
               of
               whom
               he
               required
               it
               by
               
                 way
                 of
                 Trial
              
               ,
               because
               he
               knew
               his
               Heart
               was
               set
               upon
               his
               Riches
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               104.
               
               It
               either
               was
               a
               vertue
               in
               Eunuchs
               ,
               who
               gelded
               themselves
               for
               the
               Kingdom
               of
               Heaven
               ,
               or
               it
               was
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               That
               is
               according
               as
               you
               take
               the
               
                 last
                 Words
                 for
                 the
                 Kingdom
                 of
                 Heavens
                 sake
              
               ;
               if
               to
               
                 avoid
                 a
                 present
                 violent
                 Temptation
              
               it
               be
               done
               ,
               we
               must
               commend
               it
               ;
               but
               if
               upon
               
                 mature
                 deliberation
              
               it
               be
               done
               ,
               when
               they
               might
               
                 have
                 recourse
                 to
                 Marriage
              
               ,
               it
               is
               not
               well
               done
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Why
               do
               you
               condemn
               that
               of
               St.
               Matt.
               19.
               12.
               
               There
               are
               some
               who
               have
               made
               themselves
               Eunuchs
               for
               the
               Kingdom
               of
               Heavens
               sake
               ?
            
          
           
             
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               VVe
               do
               not
               condemn
               the
               Text
               ;
               but
               
                 your
                 Exposition
              
               of
               it
               ;
               for
               it
               is
               doubtful
               on
               
                 what
                 account
              
               those
               our
               Saviour
               speaks
               of
               there
               ,
               were
               Eunuchs
               ,
               or
               whether
               they
               were
               so
               actually
               ,
               or
               only
               in
               design
               ;
               but
               take
               it
               in
               which
               Sence
               you
               will
               ,
               we
               do
               not
               find
               our
               
                 Saviour
                 commends
                 it
              
               ;
               and
               it
               is
               nothing
               to
               that
               
                 slavish
                 Vow
              
               which
               you
               require
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               He
               who
               resolves
               in
               his
               Heart
               to
               keep
               his
               Virgin
               ,
               either
               doth
               well
               ,
               or
               not
               .
               1
               Cor.
               7.
               37.
               
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               He
               doth
               well
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Why
               then
               do
               you
               deny
               the
               holy
               Vow
               of
               Continency
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               VVe
               condemn
               that
               vow
               which
               you
               call
               Holy
               ,
               because
               it
               is
               
                 no
                 where
                 warranted
                 in
                 the
                 word
                 of
                 God
                 ,
              
               that
               place
               of
               the
               Apostle
               speaks
               not
               of
               
                 any
                 Vow
              
               ,
               but
               if
               it
               did
               ,
               it
               speaks
               not
               of
               
                 Personal
                 Continency
              
               ,
               but
               of
               the
               Power
               of
               a
               Guardian
               or
               Father
               ,
               in
               Marrying
               or
               
                 not
                 Marrying
              
               the
               Virgins
               under
               their
               Care.
               
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               105.
               
               We
               ought
               either
               to
               obey
               our
               Prelates
               and
               Superiours
               ,
               or
               we
               ought
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               We
               ought
               in
               all
               lawful
               things
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Why
               then
               do
               you
               reject
               the
               vow
               of
               Obedience
               ,
               as
               a
               Popish
               Fiction
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               We
               do
               not
               
                 reject
                 all
                 vows
                 of
                 Obedience
              
               ,
               but
               such
               as
               are
               
                 purely
                 Popish
              
               ;
               and
               these
               we
               condemn
               because
               the
               matter
               of
               them
               is
               unlawful
               ,
               not
               because
               all
               Vows
               of
               Obedience
               are
               so
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Our
               Saviour
               in
               obedience
               to
               
                 St.
                 Joseph
              
               and
               the
               Blessed
               Virgin
               ,
               either
               gave
               us
               an
               Example
               of
               Obedience
               ,
               or
               he
               did
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               He
               did
               ,
               Of
               
                 Obedience
                 to
                 our
                 Parents
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               If
               he
               did
               ,
               then
               the
               vow
               of
               Obedience
               is
               evident
               to
               be
               a
               pious
               action
               by
               Christs
               own
               Example
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               We
               do
               not
               condemn
               
                 all
                 vows
                 of
                 Obedience
              
               in
               general
               ,
               (
               though
               if
               we
               had
               no
               other
               reason
               to
               allow
               them
               ,
               but
               this
               Example
               ,
               we
               should
               reject
               them
               ;
               for
               Christ
               here
               made
               no
               Vow
               ,
               and
               his
               Obedience
               was
               
                 to
                 his
                 Parents
              
               ,
               not
               to
               
                 superiour
                 degrees
              
               in
               the
               Church
               )
               but
               yours
               we
               do
               because
               of
               the
               matter
               of
               it
               ,
               which
               you
               must
               prove
               to
               be
               good
               ,
               by
               examining
               the
               
                 particulars
                 ;
                 not
                 by
                 such
                 general
                 Arguments
                 as
                 these
                 .
              
            
          
        
         
           
           
             Of
             the
             Possibility
             of
             keeping
             the
             Commandments
             .
          
           
             
               PA.
               
            
             
               106.
               
               A
               Man
               being
               assisted
               by
               the
               special
               Grace
               of
               God
               ,
               can
               either
               keep
               the
               Commandments
               of
               God
               ,
               or
               he
               cannot
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               He
               can
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Why
               do
               you
               then
               deny
               the
               possibility
               of
               keeping
               the
               Commandments
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               
                 We
                 do
              
               not
               
                 deny
                 it
                 ,
                 we
                 say
                 it
                 is
              
               not
               only
               possible
               ;
               but
               necessary
               
                 that
                 we
                 should
              
               keep
               all
               the
               Commandments
               of
               God
               ;
               
                 but
                 we
              
               deny
               
                 that
                 we
              
               can
               keep
               them
               perfectly
               ,
               
                 that
                 is
                 ,
                 that
                 we
              
               can
               arrive
               to
               that
               Degree
               of
               Perfection
               ,
               as
               to
               observe
               them
               to
               the
               highest
               Pitch
               ,
               without
               any
               defect
               in
               the
               manner
               of
               the
               Observation
               :
               
                 this
                 we
                 say
              
               ,
               None
               on
               this
               side
               Heaven
               
                 can
                 do
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               107.
               
               It
               is
               either
               impossible
               with
               Man
               to
               keep
               the
               Commandments
               or
               it
               is
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               
                 To
                 keep
                 them
              
               perfectly
               
                 with
                 a
              
               perfection
               of
               Degrees
               is
               impossible
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Why
               do
               you
               then
               accuse
               God
               of
               commanding
               Impossibilities
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               We
               do
               not
               :
               God
               commands
               nothing
               but
               what
               we
               
                 must
                 perform
              
               ,
               we
               must
               
                 keep
                 the
                 Commandments
                 perfectly
              
               ,
               as
               to
               all
               the
               parts
               of
               them
               ;
               but
               as
               to
               the
               Degrees
               ,
               by
               reason
               of
               our
               
                 natural
                 Corruption
              
               we
               cannot
               do
               it
               ,
               but
               Christ
               our
               Surety
               hath
               
                 done
                 it
              
               for
               us
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Hearers
               of
               the
               Law
               only
               are
               justified
               ,
               or
               they
               are
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               Bare
               Hearers
               are
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               If
               not
               ,
               then
               the
               fulfilling
               of
               the
               Law
               is
               necessary
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               That
               doth
               not
               follow
               :
               The
               doing
               of
               it
               
                 is
                 necessary
              
               ,
               Rom.
               2.
               13.
               
               But
               for
               the
               fulfilling
               it
               as
               to
               the
               
                 degrees
                 of
                 it
              
               that
               is
               
                 no
                 where
              
               required
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               108.
               
               God
               according
               to
               his
               Promise
               ,
               either
               enabled
               Man
               to
               keep
               his
               Commandments
               ,
               or
               he
               did
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               God
               enables
               a
               Man
               to
               
                 do
                 whatever
              
               he
               promises
               to
               assist
               him
               to
               do
               .
            
          
           
             
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Why
               then
               do
               you
               deny
               in
               Man
               the
               Possibility
               of
               keeping
               the
               Commandments
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               We
               only
               deny
               the
               possibility
               of
               keeping
               them
               perfectly
               with
               a
               
                 Perfection
                 of
                 Degrees
              
               ,
               and
               God
               hath
               
                 never
                 promised
              
               to
               enable
               Man
               to
               do
               it
               .
            
             
               All
               his
               Promises
               are
               ,
               that
               he
               will
               
                 enable
                 him
              
               to
               keep
               them
               so
               ,
               as
               shall
               
                 please
                 him
              
               ;
               but
               here
               is
               nothing
               of
               
                 keeping
                 them
                 perfectly
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               109.
               
               It
               is
               evident
               in
               holy
               Writ
               ,
               that
               some
               either
               keep
               the
               Commandments
               ,
               or
               they
               do
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               None
               
                 keep
                 them
              
               with
               
                 such
                 a
                 Perfection
              
               as
               I
               mentioned
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Why
               do
               you
               belye
               that
               of
               St.
               
                 John
                 1.
                 6.
                 
                 Zacharias
              
               and
               Elizabeth
               were
               both
               just
               before
               God
               ,
               walking
               in
               all
               the
               Commandments
               ,
               and
               were
               justified
               without
               Blame
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               That
               Text
               is
               not
               in
               St.
               
                 John
                 ,
                 but
                 in
                 St.
              
               Luke
               ,
               1.
               6.
               
                 and
                 is
              
               not
               as
               you
               
                 read
                 it
              
               ,
               they
               were
               justified
               without
               Blame
               ,
               but
               they
               walked
               in
               all
               the
               Commandments
               and
               Ordinances
               of
               the
               Lord
               ,
               blameless
               ,
               or
               without
               Blame
               :
               Now
               this
               Text
               
                 we
                 do
              
               not
               bely
               ,
               
                 but
                 we
              
               desire
               
                 you
                 to
              
               consider
               that
               St.
               
                 Luke
                 only
                 says
              
               ,
               they
               were
               blameless
               ,
               
                 not
                 perfect
                 ,
                 they
                 were
              
               blameless
               ,
               
                 that
                 is
              
               ,
               they
               were
               so
               Holy
               ,
               that
               no
               Person
               could
               find
               fault
               with
               them
               .
               
                 He
                 had
              
               spoken
               
                 of
                 their
              
               Holiness
               with
               reference
               to
               God
               
                 before
                 ,
                 and
                 he
                 speaks
                 now
                 of
                 their
              
               Reputation
               among
               Men
               ;
               
                 but
                 this
                 is
              
               nothing
               
                 to
                 the
              
               keeping
               the
               Commandments
               perfectly
               ,
               with
               such
               a
               Perfection
               
                 as
                 we
                 deny
              
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             Of
             the
             Seven
             Sacraments
             .
          
           
             
               PA.
               
            
             
               110.
               
               Christ
               for
               the
               Sanctification
               of
               Mankind
               ,
               either
               instituted
               seven
               visible
               Signs
               of
               invisible
               Graces
               or
               he
               did
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               He
               did
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               If
               he
               did
               not
               ,
               answer
               me
               to
               these
               following
               Prepositions
               ,
               viz.
               
            
             
               Baptism
               is
               either
               a
               Sacrament
               ,
               or
               it
               is
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               It
               is
               .
            
          
           
             
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               111.
               
               Then
               we
               are
               agreed
               in
               that
               Point
               ;
               but
               Confirmation
               is
               either
               a
               Sacrament
               ,
               or
               it
               is
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               It
               is
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               If
               not
               ,
               Why
               hath
               it
               the
               Visible
               Sign
               ,
               viz.
               Oyl
               and
               Balm
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               It
               hath
               no
               
                 such
                 Sign
              
               of
               
                 Christs
                 Institution
              
               ,
               which
               is
               requisite
               in
               a
               Sacrament
               ,
               but
               only
               of
               
                 your
                 own
                 Invention
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               
                 See
                 Act.
              
               19.
               5
               ,
               6.
               
               And
               when
               Paul
               had
               imposed
               his
               Hands
               upon
               them
               ,
               the
               Holy
               Ghost
               came
               upon
               them
               .
               And
               Acts
               8.
               14
               ,
               15
               ,
               16.
               
               St.
               Peter
               and
               St.
               John
               did
               impose
               their
               Hands
               upon
               them
               ,
               and
               they
               received
               the
               Holy
               Ghost
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               These
               Texts
               speak
               
                 not
                 a
                 word
              
               of
               Oyl
               ,
               or
               Balm
               ,
               practised
               by
               
                 the
                 Apostles
              
               ,
               but
               of
               the
               
                 laying
                 on
                 of
                 Hands
              
               .
               Your
               Confirmation
               therefore
               is
               no
               Sacrament
               ,
               seeing
               there
               is
               no
               Warrant
               of
               Christ
               for
               the
               
                 outward
                 Sign
              
               ,
               nor
               any
               
                 Divine
                 Promise
              
               to
               annex
               an
               
                 invisible
                 Grace
              
               to
               it
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               112.
               
               The
               Eucharist
               either
               is
               a
               Sacrament
               ,
               or
               it
               is
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               It
               is
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Then
               the
               Controversy
               in
               this
               Point
               is
               ended
               .
               But
               to
               go
               on
               ,
            
             
               113.
               
               Penance
               either
               is
               a
               Sacrament
               ,
               or
               it
               is
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               It
               is
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               If
               not
               ,
               why
               hath
               it
               the
               visible
               Sign
               ,
               viz.
               The
               Penitent's
               Confession
               ,
               and
               the
               Priest's
               Absolution
               ,
               of
               an
               invisible
               Grace
               ,
               which
               is
               the
               remission
               of
               Sins
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               There
               are
               no
               
                 such
                 Signs
              
               instituted
               
                 by
                 Christ
              
               ,
               for
               Confession
               to
               
                 a
                 Priest
              
               is
               
                 no
                 where
              
               commanded
               as
               I
               shew'd
               before
               :
               and
               Absolution
               is
               only
               a
               
                 part
                 of
                 Discipline
              
               ,
               and
               therefore
               can
               be
               
                 no
                 part
                 of
                 a
                 Sacrament
              
               :
               besides
               ,
               here
               is
               
                 no
                 outward
              
               and
               
                 visible
                 Sign
              
               ,
               which
               
                 must
                 be
              
               in
               
                 a
                 Sacrament
              
               ,
               for
               the
               
                 words
                 of
                 Absolution
              
               are
               the
               form
               of
               the
               Sacrament
               ,
               according
               to
               the
               
                 Council
                 of
                 Trent
              
               ,
               now
               the
               
                 outward
                 Sign
              
               is
               never
               the
               form
               of
               a
               Sacrament
               :
               The
               matter
               of
               this
               
                 pretended
                 Sacrament
              
               being
               as
               I
               shewed
               
                 no
                 where
              
               commanded
               
                 by
                 Christ
              
               ,
               it
               can
               be
               
                 no
                 Sacrament
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               115.
               
               Extream
               Unction
               either
               is
               a
               Sacrament
               ,
               or
               it
               is
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               It
               is
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Why
               then
               hath
               it
               the
               visible
               Sign
               ,
               the
               Priests
               Prayer
               ,
               
               ●nd
               the
               anointing
               with
               Oyl
               ,
               of
               an
               invisible
               Grace
               ,
               James
               13
               ,
               14
               ,
               15
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               It
               hath
               
                 no
                 Sign
              
               of
               an
               
                 invisible
                 Grace
                 ,
                 St.
              
               James
               ●n
               
                 that
                 place
              
               speaks
               of
               it
               as
               a
               means
               to
               
                 heal
                 the
                 Sick
              
               ,
               but
               ●hat
               is
               
                 no
                 invisible
                 Grace
              
               ;
               therefore
               it
               is
               
                 no
                 Sacrament
              
               :
               Whether
               that
               rite
               be
               still
               to
               be
               retained
               is
               
                 another
                 question
              
               ,
               and
               not
               to
               
                 our
                 purpose
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               116.
               
               Holy
               Order
               either
               is
               a
               Sacrament
               ,
               or
               it
               is
               not
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               It
               is
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Why
               then
               hath
               it
               the
               visible
               Sign
               ,
               the
               words
               of
               the
               Bishop
               ,
               and
               the
               things
               given
               to
               him
               that
               is
               ordained
               ,
               of
               an
               invisible
               Grace
               ?
               according
               to
               that
               ,
               1
               Tim.
               4.
               14.
               neglect
               not
               the
               grace
               that
               is
               in
               thee
               by
               Prophecy
               with
               imposition
               of
               hands
               of
               the
               Priesthood
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               It
               hath
               
                 no
                 such
                 visible
                 Sign
                 instituted
                 by
                 Christ
                 ,
              
               which
               we
               
                 challenge
                 you
                 to
                 prove
              
               ;
               therefore
               't
               is
               
                 no
                 Sacrament
              
               ,
               and
               neither
               is
               there
               
                 any
                 Grace
              
               given
               
                 by
                 it
              
               ,
               though
               Gifts
               are
               indeed
               bestowed
               :
               So
               that
               you
               have
               falsifyed
               that
               Text
               of
               St.
               Paul
               ,
               which
               is
               
                 not
                 ,
                 neglect
                 not
                 the
                 Grace
                 that
                 is
                 in
                 thee
                 ,
              
               but
               
                 neglect
                 not
                 the
                 Gift
              
               :
               
                 〈◊〉
                 〈◊〉
                 〈◊〉
                 〈◊〉
                 〈◊〉
              
               ,
               now
               there
               is
               a
               
                 great
                 difference
              
               between
               a
               Gift
               and
               
                 a
                 Grace
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               117.
               
               Matrimony
               either
               is
               a
               Sacrament
               ,
               or
               it
               is
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               It
               is
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               If
               not
               ,
               why
               hath
               it
               a
               visible
               Sign
               ,
               the
               mutual
               consent
               of
               both
               parties
               ,
               an
               invisible
               Grace
               and
               Supernatural
               Conjunction
               made
               by
               Almighty
               God
               ?
               
                 Matt.
                 19.
                 6.
                 
                 Eph.
              
               5.
               31
               ,
               32.
               
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               The
               mutual
               consent
               is
               no
               visible
               Sign
               ,
               
                 but
                 an
              
               invisible
               Action
               ;
               
                 neither
                 is
                 there
                 any
              
               Supernatural
               Grace
               
                 given
                 by
                 it
                 ,
                 for
              
               none
               of
               those
               Texts
               you
               cite
               ,
               mentions
               any
               such
               thing
               :
               
                 that
                 of
              
               Eph.
               5.
               
                 you
                 have
              
               fassified
               ,
               St.
               
                 Paul
                 says
              
               not
               ,
               
                 it
                 is
              
               a
               Sacrament
               ,
               
                 but
                 a
              
               Mystery
               ,
               
                 〈◊〉
                 〈◊〉
                 〈◊〉
                 〈◊〉
                 〈◊〉
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               118.
               
               A
               visible
               Sign
               of
               an
               invisible
               Grace
               ,
               Divinely
               instituted
               by
               Christ
               ,
               either
               is
               the
               true
               Definition
               of
               a
               Sacrament
               ,
               or
               it
               is
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               It
               is
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               Then
               you
               deny
               the
               Definition
               which
               your selves
               attribute
               to
               a
               Sacrament
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               You
               are
               Mistaken
               ,
               for
               that
               is
               
                 only
                 a
                 part
              
               of
               the
               
               Definition
               ;
               we
               say
               that
               a
               Sacrament
               must
               be
               not
               only
               
                 an
                 outward
                 and
                 visible
                 Sign
                 of
                 an
                 inward
                 and
                 Spritual
                 Grace
                 ,
                 Ordained
                 by
                 Christ
              
               ;
               but
               it
               must
               also
               be
               
                 a
                 means
                 whereby
                 we
                 receive
                 the
                 same
                 ,
                 and
                 a
                 pledge
                 to
                 assure
                 us
                 of
                 it
                 :
              
               now
               seeing
               your
               
                 pretended
                 Sacraments
              
               have
               
                 neither
                 outward
                 Signs
              
               instituted
               
                 by
                 Christ
              
               ,
               nor
               
                 invisible
                 Graces
              
               annexed
               
                 to
                 them
              
               ,
               and
               conveyed
               
                 by
                 them
              
               ,
               we
               reject
               them
               and
               assert
               they
               are
               
                 no
                 Sacraments
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pa.
               
            
             
               119.
               
               Baptism
               and
               the
               Lords
               Supper
               is
               either
               more
               evidently
               said
               in
               Scripture
               ,
               than
               any
               of
               the
               other
               five
               to
               be
               Sacraments
               ,
               or
               they
               are
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Pro.
               
            
             
               The
               word
               Sacrament
               is
               
                 no
                 where
              
               used
               
                 in
                 Scripture
              
               ,
               and
               therefore
               Baptism
               is
               
                 no
                 where
              
               called
               
                 a
                 Sacrament
              
               ,
               nor
               the
               
                 Lords
                 Supper
              
               :
               But
               
                 in
                 Scripture
              
               we
               find
               
                 the
                 outward
              
               and
               
                 visible
                 Sign
              
               of
               Baptism
               ordained
               
                 by
                 Christ
              
               ;
               and
               the
               
                 invisible
                 Grace
              
               annexed
               
                 to
                 it
              
               ,
               and
               conveyed
               
                 by
                 it
              
               ,
               and
               so
               of
               the
               
                 Lords
                 Supper
              
               ;
               but
               we
               
                 find
                 no
                 such
                 thing
              
               of
               the
               
                 other
                 five
              
               :
               now
               seeing
               nothing
               can
               be
               
                 a
                 Sacrament
              
               but
               what
               hath
               
                 such
                 a
                 Sign
              
               with
               a
               Grace
               annexed
               ,
               and
               Baptism
               and
               
                 the
                 Lords
                 Supper
              
               have
               them
               ;
               we
               say
               
                 they
                 are
                 Sacraments
              
               ,
               and
               when
               you
               
                 shew
                 us
              
               the
               
                 same
                 in
                 Scripture
              
               of
               
                 the
                 rest
              
               ,
               we
               
                 will
                 receive
              
               them
               for
               such
               :
               It
               is
               therefore
               
                 impertinent
                 to
              
               ask
               us
               
                 where
                 Baptism
                 is
                 called
                 a
                 Sacrament
                 ,
              
               for
               we
               
                 don't
                 contend
                 about
                 a
                 word
              
               ;
               but
               the
               question
               is
               
                 whether
                 Confirmation
                 ,
                 Pennance
                 ,
                 Extream
                 Unction
                 ,
                 Orders
                 and
                 Marriage
                 be
                 Ordinances
                 of
                 the
                 same
                 Nature
                 with
                 Baptism
                 and
                 the
                 Eucharist
                 :
              
               this
               
                 we
                 deny
              
               ,
               and
               we
               
                 are
                 sure
              
               you
               
                 cannot
                 prove
              
               .
            
          
        
      
       
         
           APPENDIX
           .
        
         
           
             Pa.
             
          
           
             120.
             
             YOur
             Church
             either
             hath
             her
             succession
             from
             the
             Waldenses
             ,
             &c.
             or
             she
             hath
             not
             .
          
        
         
           
             Pro.
             
          
           
             If
             you
             mean
             her
             
               Succession
               of
               Pastors
            
             ,
             She
             hath
             not
             .
          
        
         
           
             Pa.
             
          
           
             If
             not
             ,
             then
             you
             must
             have
             no
             Succession
             ,
             unless
             it
             be
             from
             the
             Roman
             Church
             .
          
        
         
           
             Pro.
             
          
           
             That
             
               part
               of
               our
               Church
            
             which
             
               in
               opposition
            
             to
             Rome
             is
             termed
             the
             Reformed
             ,
             had
             
               its
               Immediate
               Succession
            
             from
             the
             Church
             in
             communion
             with
             Rome
             .
          
        
         
           
           
             Pa.
             
          
           
             121.
             
             Luther
             and
             Calvin
             either
             had
             their
             Mission
             from
             the
             Roman
             Church
             ,
             or
             they
             had
             not
             ?
          
        
         
           
             Pro.
             
          
           
             They
             had
             .
          
        
         
           
             Pa.
             
          
           
             If
             they
             had
             ,
             the
             Roman
             Church
             either
             had
             the
             Spirit
             of
             God
             when
             they
             gave
             them
             that
             Mission
             ,
             or
             she
             had
             not
             .
          
        
         
           
             Pro.
             
          
           
             She
             had
             
               the
               Spirit
               of
               God
            
             ,
             as
             much
             as
             
               was
               necessary
            
             for
             
               that
               power
            
             of
             giving
             them
             their
             Mission
             .
          
        
         
           
             Pa.
             
          
           
             If
             they
             had
             ,
             how
             could
             she
             fall
             into
             Errors
             ?
             and
             why
             did
             they
             depart
             from
             the
             Spirit
             of
             God
             ?
          
        
         
           
             Pro.
             
          
           
             They
             did
             
               not
               depart
            
             from
             the
             
               Spirit
               of
               God
            
             :
             and
             that
             
               portion
               of
               the
               Spirit
            
             which
             
               she
               for
               that
               end
               had
            
             in
             Ordination
             ,
             is
             only
             a
             power
             given
             
               by
               the
               Spirit
            
             ,
             and
             therefore
             
               no
               security
            
             from
             Error
             ,
             seeing
             all
             Hereticks
             have
             
               so
               much
            
             of
             
               the
               Spirit
            
             .
          
        
         
           
             Pa.
             
          
           
             Either
             they
             had
             their
             Mission
             from
             God
             ,
             or
             they
             had
             not
             .
          
        
         
           
             Pro.
             
          
           
             They
             had
             .
          
        
         
           
             Pa.
             
          
           
             If
             they
             had
             ,
             why
             did
             not
             they
             confirm
             their
             Doctrine
             by
             Miracles
             ?
          
        
         
           
             Pro.
             
          
           
             Because
             Christ
             and
             
               his
               Apostles
            
             had
             
               done
               it
               before
            
             and
             seeing
             
               they
               preached
               no
               new
               Doctrine
            
             ,
             there
             
               was
               no
               need
            
             of
             them
             .
          
        
         
           
             Pa.
             
          
           
             122.
             
             Luther
             and
             Calvins
             Doctrine
             either
             was
             manifested
             to
             be
             true
             by
             Miracles
             ,
             or
             it
             was
             not
             .
          
        
         
           
             Pro.
             
          
           
             It
             was
             not
             by
             
               any
               Miracles
            
             wrought
             by
             them
             :
             but
             
               by
               the
               Miracles
               of
               Christ
            
             and
             
               his
               Apostles
            
             it
             was
             .
          
        
         
           
             Pa.
             
          
           
             If
             they
             did
             no
             Miracles
             ,
             then
             seeing
             you
             cannot
             alledge
             any
             Text
             of
             sacred
             Writ
             to
             vindicate
             their
             Tenets
             ,
             you
             must
             of
             necessity
             have
             recourse
             to
             the
             private
             Spirit
             .
          
        
         
           
             Pro.
             
          
           
             Are
             not
             you
             ashamed
             of
             such
             an
             Argument
             ?
             when
             you
             know
             
               we
               produce
               Texts
            
             ,
             plain
             Texts
             
               of
               Scripture
            
             for
             
               every
               one
            
             of
             our
             Doctrines
             ,
             and
             we
             
               found
               them
            
             upon
             
               nothing
               else
            
             ;
             and
             for
             the
             
               private
               Spirit
            
             ,
             it
             is
             a
             thing
             we
             know
             not
             ,
             neither
             do
             
               you
               know
            
             what
             you
             mean
             by
             it
             ,
             we
             renounce
             any
             
               such
               thing
            
             :
             but
             the
             
               Assistance
               of
               the
               Spirit
               of
               God
            
             we
             own
             and
             
               pray
               for
            
             .
          
        
         
           
             Pa.
             
          
           
             123.
             
             The
             Apostles
             either
             had
             the
             private
             Spirit
             ,
             or
             they
             had
             not
             .
          
        
         
           
             Pro.
             
          
           
             What
             you
             mean
             by
             the
             
               private
               Spirit
            
             ,
             is
             
               best
               known
            
             to
             your self
             :
             But
             that
             Assistance
             of
             the
             
               holy
               Spirit
            
             which
             
               we
               hope
            
             for
             ,
             
               and
               God
               hath
               promised
            
             ,
             they
             had
             .
          
        
         
           
           
             Pa.
             
          
           
             If
             they
             had
             ,
             why
             then
             did
             they
             call
             a
             Council
             ?
             Acts
             19.
             
          
        
         
           
             Pro.
             
          
           
             I
             appeal
             to
             your self
             ,
             whether
             that
             is
             an
             Argument
             that
             they
             
               had
               not
            
             even
             a
             greater
             ,
             viz.
             
               An
               infallible
               Assistance
            
             of
             the
             Spirit
             attending
             
               every
               one
            
             in
             particular
             ,
             which
             if
             they
             had
             ,
             you
             
               cannot
               deny
            
             them
             the
             Assistance
             we
             plead
             for
             .
          
        
         
           
             Pa.
             
          
           
             24.
             
             Your
             private
             Spirit
             either
             is
             of
             God
             ,
             or
             it
             is
             not
             .
          
        
         
           
             Pro.
             
          
           
             The
             Assistance
             of
             the
             
               holy
               Spirit
            
             promised
             an●
             given
             to
             every
             
               private
               Man
            
             ,
             who
             seeks
             it
             with
             Humility
             and
             Prayers
             ,
             is
             of
             God.
             
          
        
         
           
             Pa.
             
          
           
             Why
             then
             are
             there
             so
             many
             disagreeing
             Sects
             among
             you
             ?
          
        
         
           
             Pro.
             
          
           
             There
             are
             
               no
               disagreeing
               Sects
            
             among
             
               us
               in
               matters
               of
               Faith
            
             ,
             in
             which
             alone
             the
             Assistance
             of
             the
             
               Holy
               Spirit
            
             is
             given
             .
          
        
         
           
             Pa.
             
          
           
             125.
             
             A
             Man
             endowed
             with
             your
             private
             Spirit
             either
             can
             interpret
             Scripture
             ,
             or
             he
             cannot
             .
          
        
         
           
             Pro.
             
          
           
             
               A
               Man
            
             endowed
             
               with
               the
            
             Spirit
             of
             God
             (
             which
             in
             the
             only
             assisting
             Spirit
             )
             can
             interpret
             Scripture
             aright
             .
          
        
         
           
             Pa.
             
          
           
             If
             they
             can
             ,
             what
             need
             have
             you
             of
             Preachers
             ?
          
        
         
           
             Pro.
             
          
           
             To
             instruct
             the
             ignorant
             ,
             to
             convince
             the
             erroneous
             ,
             to
             
               stir
               up
            
             the
             negligent
             ,
             to
             excite
             the
             slothful
             ,
             to
             comfort
             the
             Broken-hearted
             ,
             and
             Administer
             the
             holy
             Sacraments
             .
          
        
         
           
             Pa.
             
          
           
             But
             after
             all
             ,
             no
             Man
             will
             believe
             any
             thing
             but
             what
             his
             Spirit
             suggests
             unto
             him
             .
          
        
         
           
             Pro.
             
          
           
             No
             Man
             ought
             to
             believe
             any
             thing
             
               but
               what
            
             the
             
               Spirit
               of
               God
            
             suggests
             
               unto
               him
            
             ,
             either
             
               by
               the
               Scriptures
            
             ,
             the
             
               Law
               of
               Nature
            
             ,
             or
             
               internal
               Convictions
            
             ;
             for
             which
             he
             makes
             use
             of
             Ministers
             as
             the
             Means
             .
          
        
         
           FINIS
           .
        
      
    
     
       
         
         
           POSTSCRIPT
           .
        
         
           I
           Desire
           the
           Gentlemen
           against
           whom
           I
           write
           ,
           would
           
             deal
             so
             fairly
          
           with
           me
           ;
           as
           to
           let
           me
           and
           
             the
             World
          
           know
           what
           Scandals
           and
           Calumnies
           they
           
             aim
             at
          
           in
           their
           Caution
           to
           their
           Adversaries
           ,
           and
           who
           
             they
             are
          
           ,
           who
           
             they
             say
             could
             never
             learn
             to
             speak
             or
             write
             Truth
             ,
          
           and
           what
           those
           
             sores
             are
          
           which
           they
           
             threaten
             to
             rip
             up
          
           ;
           a
           
             few
             words
          
           will
           explain
           their
           meaning
           ,
           which
           is
           there
           a
           
             little
             dark
          
           .
        
      
       
         Notes, typically marginal, from the original text
         
           Notes for div A66243-e300
           
             Qu.
             1.
             
          
           
             41
             5.
             
          
           
             Qu.
             5.
             41.
             46.
             
          
           
             111.
             
          
           
             Qu.
             37
             ,
             40
             ,
             46
             ,
             47
             ,
             50
             ,
             &c.
             
          
           
             Qu.
             54.
             
          
           
             55.
             
          
           
             64.
             
          
           
             89.
             
          
           
             Qu.
             66.
             
          
           
             93.
             
          
           
             95.
             96.
             97.
             
          
           
             102.
             103.
             104.
             
          
           
             117.
             
          
           
             84.
             
          
           
             Qu.
             11.
             
             You
             take
             Universal
             for
             being
             in
             all
             Places
             .
             Qu.
             12.
             
             You
             take
             it
             for
             being
             existent
             at
             all
             times
             ,
             
               &c.
               Qu.
            
             13.
             
             You
             take
             it
             for
             being
             called
             Universal
             .
          
        
         
           Notes for div A66243-e2050
           
             Acts
             16.
             
          
           
             Seek
             and
             ye
             shall
             find
             .
          
           
             Epist.
             Ded.