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That is, some seasonable thing begun, whereby the present breaches in churches may be repaired: future re Friend to the virgin daughter of Zion 1658 4887 7 0 0 0 0 0 14 C The rate of 14 defects per 10,000 words puts this text in the C category of texts with between 10 and 35 defects per 10,000 words. 2006-12 TCP Assigned for keying and markup 2006-12 Aptara Keyed and coded from ProQuest page images 2007-01 Robyn Anspach Sampled and proofread 2007-01 Robyn Anspach Text and markup reviewed and edited 2007-02 pfs Batch review (QC) and XML conversion HEALING QVERIES FOR SICK CHVRCHES . That is , Some seasonable thing begun , whereby the Present Breaches in Churches may be Repaired : Future Rents and Divisions prevented ; and so all the Lords People have Communion not in darknesse but LIGHT . PUBLISHED , By a FRIEND to the Virgin Daughter of Zion . Jer. 8. 22. Is there no Balm in Gilead ? Is there no Physitian there ? Why then is not the health of the daughter of my people recovered ? London , Printed in the Year , 1658. To all the GATHERED CHVRCHES in England , Scotland and Ireland , PEACE with HOLINES be wished . Men , Fathers and Brethren , I May say in Jacobs words : Why do ye look one upon another ? Behold I have heard that there is Corn in Aegypt , Gen. 42. 12. Parents as they are deeply affected with their Childrens afflictions : so they are carefull to use what means they can for their recovery . It is very pious and Christian , for the divisions of Reuben there be great thoughts of heart . Indeed our eyes cannot weep enough for the breaches among brethren : yet this is but part of our duty . Get thee up ( saith God to Joshua ) wherefore lyest thou upon thy face ? Josh. 7. 10. Not blaming him for his mourning , but telling him there was more work to be done . There are three Reasons ( which I shall name ) why I have published these Queries . First , that they may be of some use to Pastours and Teachers of Churches : who are most concerned in seeking to heale the breaches among them . Now I do not see away more probable for healing , than to look into the Cause of their differences . As for example , when some Brethren are not satisfied about the place of TRIERS ; cannot comfortably joyn in communion with Souldiers : Nor with such as have civill Offices under the present Government : think it a PUBLIKC SCANDALL to Religion , that Church-members should be Jaylors and Judges of the Saints ; and shew no cause why they persecute them : Here it is the Ministers duty in a speciall manner to appear , where such offences are taken . And by sound Doctrine prove ( if he can ) that these scruples and questions do arise through the ignorance , and weaknes of the Brethren , and that they are offences taken , but not given . Secondly , Of some use to such Brethren as desire to keep themselves pure , and not be partakers of other mens sins : I hope without any further enlargment , those who know what it is not to defile their garments , God will inable them to make a fruitfull improvement of these Queries . Thirdly , Because I do intend to prosecute this subject about Churches a little further ; These Queries concern Churches already constituted : But I have something to publish for their sakes , who are not yet in Church fellowship . Lift up your eyes and look on the fields ; for they are white already to Harvest , Joh. 4. 35. Here I shall shew ( so far as may be hinted by Queries : ) first , what things are necessary that Saints agree upon as uniting principles : secondly , what things ( as differences ) may be born with : thirdly , what Opinions and practises are destructive to the peace and growth of Churches , which hereafter shall be constituted . Because of the house of Jehovah our God , I will seek good for thee , Psal. 122. 9. But in the queries one thing I forgot ; Whereas some Church Officers a while since took great liberty and boldness to write against the misdemeanour of the late King , and in their Sermons , had often that Text , Judg. 5. 23. Curse ye Meroh , &c. What is the reason that Doctrine is now laid aside ? I move this question , to the end that such who are herein concerned may vindicate themselves : For it is generally said , if that which they wrote and preacht against the King , had been done sincerely , and in the fear of God , they would now by Preaching and Writing , as earnestly perswade people to lcome forth to the help of the Lord against the mighty , as they did then . The close is thus , so that I may be any way usefull for the overthrowing of Iniquity , in Church and State , and the advancement of righteousness in both , I have my end : With me it is a very small thing to be judged of mans judgment : my judgment is with the Lord , and my work with my God . Healing Queries for sick Churches . Question I. WHether in a Church rightly constituted , every member is not alike under the power of Christ , given to the Church ; that is , whosoever breaks the known laws of Christ , ought to be admonished and dealt with according to Mat. 18. 15 , 16 , 17 , 〈◊〉 . 16. 17. 1 Thess. 3. 14. Levit. 19. 17. Gal. 5. 12. 1 Tim. 1. 20. Quest . II. Whether such Church Members as know any of their Brethren ( in the same fellowship with them ) walk disorderly to the dishonour of God , the scandal of Religion , and hardning wicked men in their sins ; do not wrap themselves in the sin and guilt of their Brethren ; yea , and are murderers before God , if they seek not to reclaim them , according to the Rules of the Gospel , Lev. 19. 17. with 1 Joh. 3. 15. Ezec. 3. 18. Jam. 5. 19. 20. Gal. 6. 1. Quest . III. If a Brother or Brethren sin openly , and the same is known to the whol Church , but the Church useth not the means and way , which Christ hath appointed for the humbling and recovering of such scandalous members : The question is , whether the whole Church be not leavened , and her holy things polluted ? yea , further , it may be queried by what Gospel promise such a People can expect the presence of Christ in the midst of them , so long as they remain thus rebellious against the Lord , and the whol lump leavened : 1 Tim. 5. 20. Hag. 2. 12 , 13 , &c. 1 Cor. 5. 6. Isa. 1. 11. to 17. Josh. 7. 12. Hab. 1. 13. Jer. 7. 8 , 9. Gen 35. 2 , 3 , 4. Amos 3. 3. Quest . IV. Whether Churches are to take Cognizance of the Sins mentioned by Paul in 2 Tim. 3. 2 , 3 , &c. and more particularly , whether it be their duty to enquire and judge , who are the Traitours and Covenant breakers , there foretold to be in the last dayes ; briefly , whether Churches , ( as Churches ) ought to judge the Actions of their members in civill things , that is , about the lawfulness of mens Callings , Places , Offices , Administrations , Maintenance ? suppose it be State Affairs , ( as they call it ) what hath the Church to do with her members in such a case ? 1 Cor. 6. 2. 1 Thes. 4 6. Phil. 4. 8. 1 Cor. 10. 32. 33. 2 Tim. 4. 5. Rev. 2. 2. Heb. 10. 24. Quest . V. Whether such Church members walk not scandalously and bring a publick dishonour to the Name of God , who joyn and act with the open Enemies of the Gospel against the Saints ; that is , persecute their Brethren , apprehend them , and cast them into prison , will be their Judges and Jaylors , and yet have no matter of Crime to lay to their charge ? If so , whether then it be not a great sin and shame to that Church , who keeps in her bosom any open persecutors of the Lords people , Psal. 50. 18. Obe . v. 11 , 12 , 13 , &c. Mat. 24. 48 , 49 , 50. Act. 9. 4 , 5 , Mat. 25. 39 , 40 43 , 45. Ps , 93. 5 1 Pet. 2. 12 Quest . VI . In case the greater number of a Church shall tolerate and allow apparent sin , in some members , and not deal with them for the same ? what is the duty of the other part ( howsoever the lesser ) knowing the walking of such members to be very scandalous and sinfull ( and yet born with by the greater number ) that they may keep themselves pure , and not be partakers of others mens sin . 2 Cor. 6. 17. 2 Tim. 3. 2. 3. 5. Hos. 11. 12. 1. Tim. 5. 22. Hos. 2. 2. Rev. 3. 4. Or thus , If known scandalous persons are in a Church , and the Church is dealt with for suffering the same ? whether that Church may lawfully be left and separated from , by Brethren ( many or few , yet so as the lesser number ) who have used all due means and wayes ( so far as their duty is ) to have the Church purged of such defilements ? but the Major part will not heare , but rather abets the sinners and justifies the wicked ? Again , if the greater number in such a case may be left , the question is whether as a true Church , or a company of Rebels , and the visible Church . State remain with the better part , though fewer in number , Rev. 2. 5. Jer. 7. 11 , 12. Mat. 21. 13 Eccles. 9. 18. 2 Chro. 15. 2. Prov. 17. 15. Jer. 28. 16. Quest . VII . Whether a Church lying under the guilt of much sin should not please God far more to execute justice and judgement , that is , purge out the old leaven , and destroy the accursed from among them , than to pray , preach , fast , break bread , &c. Yea more , so long as judgment is neglected , and nothing done against scandalous walkers ? where is there any promise that the Lord will accept of their sacrifices , as Prayer , Preaching , Fasting , &c. Prov. 21. 3. 1 Sam. 15. 22. &c. Isa. 1. 11 Hos. 6. 6. Mic. 6. 6 , 7 , 8. Isa. 33. 5. Mic. 3. 10 , 11 , 12. Jer. 7. 21. 23. Mat. 23. 23 , 24. Mat. 5. 23 , 2● . Rev. 2. 12. Jam. 4. 8. 1 Pet. 2. 1 , 2. Quest . VIII . Seeing it is well known how the Churches have been charged with Apostacy publickly to the world , and in them ( as it is asserted ) the second Apostacy is fulfilled , set down in 2 Tim. 3. 1 , 2 , &c. It is queried , why some thing is not published for their vindication ; Besides it is desired that they will declare , 1. What Apostacy that is of which Paul there speaks , 2. To what time it is to be applied , 3. How it doth appear that such Churches as are fallen in with the present Government , have not by it made that Apostacy . 4. What is meant by these words in the Text from such turn a side , 2 Pet. 3. 15. Josh. 22. 10 , 11. Tit. 1. 9. Act. 11. 2 , 3 , 4. &c. Quest . IX . Whether such Pastors and Teachers of Churches , as joyn with this present Government , and have much worldly advantage by it ; do not by their silence shew either great ingratitude to their Lord Protector , being as they say a nursing Father to them ( if they can justifie the Power and Government which he hath taken up : ) or otherwise , whether they give not just occasion unto People to think they cannot justifie him , by Law , Reason , Religion , &c. and so it is rather of coveteousness than Conscience , that they are faln in with him ; besides by their silence , whether they deal not the more unworthily with their Nursing father , ( if they can defend him ) considering they well know , how the most conscientious Christians in the Nation are altogether dissatisfied about the present Government . Prov. 27. 10. & 22. 1. Quest . X. Whereas that place Rom. 13. 1 , 2 , &c. is by our Brethren often brought against us ( as they know it was once the speciall objection of Royalists against them and us , ) Let every soule be subject to the higher powers , &c. Here we shall propose a few things , 1. If the higher powers must be submitted too , because they are ordained of God , and are Gods Ordnanceiv . whether it be not meant , so far as they are lawfully constituted , & do govern according to reason and just laws , preserve their peoples Liberties , Persons and Estates ; Again , when they prove Traitors to the Nation , and are the Devils Agents , whether they may not be severely punished for it . 2. Because these who resist lawfull authority and just commands receive to themselves condemnation ; it be not a non sequitur ; Ergo , Usurpers must be submitted too , and unjust commands obeyed . 3. Rulers must be obeyed , because they are not a terror to good works but to evill , v. 3. Whether this be a good consequence , when they are profest enemies to good works , and do evill continually with both hands ; therefore they must be obeyed . 4. Seeing the Magistrate is to be obeyed , because he bears not the sword in vain , he is the Minister of God , a revenger to execute wrath on him that doth evill , v. 4. Here the query may be , if he seek to ruin , spoil , and enslave the people , gives liberty to all manner of unrighteousnes , bears the sword not onely in vain , in reference to the publick good , but draws it forth upon those that are good , and because they are good , whither it be the intendment of this text , therefore he must be obeyed . 5. Whither that which is not the Ordinance of God , but rather of the Devill , and the meer sin , and presumption of men , is within the compasse of this Text . 6. Whether that which is no point or part of the Magistrates lawfull power ordained of God , but Diametrically repugnant to it , as Tyranny , Oppression , Violence , &c. is within the Verge of this Text , and to be obeyed for conscience fake . 7. Whether all the powers intended in the text , said to be ordained of God , are not circumscribed and bounded with certain rules of Law , Justice , and Honesty , within which they must contain themselves , and if they passe beyond those limits , they are none of Gods Ordinances ; Consider of it , take advise and speak your mindes . Judg. 19. 30. Prov. 22. 21. Quest . XI . Whereas one special cause of the present differences divisions , and rents in Churches , is this ; namely , That souldiers and others , who have places under the present Government ( being Church members ) are not called to an account as evill doers : The question is , whether it be not the duty of Churches , ( especially the Officers ) for the satisfaction of their offended Brethren , to give some reasons , that howsoever there is offence taken at Souldiers and other State Officers , yet they have the word of God to warrant their practise in holding communion with them , Isa. 8. 20. 2 Tim. 3. 16 , 17 Tit. 1. 9. 2 Tim. 2. 24 , 25. Acts 20 2● . 2 Cor. 1. ●4 . 1 Thess. 2. 7 , 8 , &c. Quest . XII . In like manner , where as it is well known that the place of Tryers . ( as it is commonly called ) hath given offence to many pretious Christians , and occasioned much trouble in some Churches , no lesse than division ; the query is , whether it be not the Duty of such TRIERS as are Church-members to prove ( if they can ) what they act in that particular business to be lawfull by the Word of God , 1 Cor. 10. 32 , 33. 1 Pet. 5. 2 , 3. 1 Cor. 8. 12 , 13. & 9. 22 , 23. 1 Thess. 5. 22. 1 Joh. 2. 10. Isa. 57. 14. 2 Cor. 8. 21 & 13. 7. Quest . XIII . Whereas in the dayes of the late King , many honest men for refusing to submit to an Arbitrary Power , and Illegall Taxes , and standing for the Rights and Liberties of the People , suffered very much in their Liberties and Estates , and were counted for it , Good Patriots to their Country : The question is , if in Churches there are some Persons , who shall promote an Arbitrary Power , and seek to destroy the civill Rights and Liberties of the People ? whether this be not a Scandall to Religion , and a matter which the Church is to take notice off , and to deal with such members as offenders , 1 Cor. 6. 8 , 9. 1 Tim. 1. 13. Job 24. 2. Psal. 50. 18. Deut. 19. 14. & 27 17. Prov. 22. 28. Phil. 4 8. 1 Thess , 4. 12. Quest . XIV . Whether in all Ages the Lord hath not had some glorious work proper to every Generation ; if so , what is the Work now , as most proper to the Saints of this Generation ; Acts 13. 36. 2 Tim. 3. 1. 5. Or thus , whether to bear witness to and for the glorious and visible Kingdome of Jesus Christ , and to hold forth a publick Testimony against the present Powers of the World , that they shall be all broken to pieces , and the Lord alone exalted as King of Saints and Nations ; be not now a Work more proper to the Churches and People of God than it was to Saints in former Ages ; Dan. 2. 44 & 7. 13 , 14. & 12. 8 , 9 , 10. Rev. 22. 10. Act. 1. 6 , 7. Isa. 35. 5. Quest . XV . Whereas Rev. 11. 16. There is mention made of the twenty foure Elders , but the foure living Creatures , are left out of the Text ; The question is , whether it may not probably be concluded from the place , ( comparing our present experience with it ) that neer or about the expiration of the Fourth Monarchy , when the Kingdoms of this world , are to become the kingdomes of our Lord and his Christ ; there will be a generall declining of Church-Officers from the work of that Generation , and the Brethren , ( not in Office ) more faithfull than their Pastors and Teachers , in holding forth a publick Testimony to the glorious Kingdom and and Reign of Christ , Psal. 8. 2. Isa. 26. 2. Jer. 50. 45. 1 Cor. 1. 26 , 27. Isa. 29. 9. 10 , 11 , 12. 18. & 43. 27. Rev. 12. 4. Joel 3. 15 , 16. Quest . XVI . Whereas the late divisions and rents in many Churches have risen from Souldiers and others , who have places under the present Government ; It be not necessary that all Churches ( as yet free from the occasion of such trouble ) do well consider what they do , before they admit Souldiers and others ( so much excepted against ) into Church Fellowship ? Again , for others who either intend to joyn to some Church already gathered , or to constitute themselves a Church ? Whether it do not likewise very much concern them to avoid that thing which others have been so much prejudiced by : As a wise man will not run his Ship upon that rock , on which he sees another Vessel is split before his eyes . Prov. 22. 3. Ezra 4. 1 , 2 , 3. 1 Cor. 5. 6. Quest . XVII . Whether Churches in such a day as this is , should not make diligent enquiry , what it is that hinders their glory and growth ? What it is that keeps the bad in , and the good out ? whence it is that they do not experience so much life , sweetnesse , and divine Presence in Church Ordinances as formerly they did ? Again , would they be conscientious , and sincere in searching for the cause ? then , whether it would not be found : First , Negligence in some Officers , who look more after the world than after the walking of their Flock , and seek to keep up state and pompe in their own Family , more than purity and holines in the house of God . Secondly , Arrogancy and Pride in some Members who being Statesmen , are like the Sons of Zerviah , too hard for the rest : For through fear some dare not speak to them of their scandalous walking ; others by gifts and preferment have their mouths stopt , though not their consciences , others care not for it , as if ( Caa●like ) they were not their brothers keeper , Thus though the wickednes of some Church members be like Gehazis leprosie upon the fore head of the Church ; and the world cryes shame on it ; yet the Church hath neither an ear to hear , nor an ey to see , Lam. 3. 40. Josh. 7. 5 , 6. 2 Cor. 7. 9 , 10 , 11. Ezec. 3. 4 , 5 , &c. Mat. 18 7. Quest . XVIII . Whether unfaithfulness among Churches in neglecting their Christian Duty each to other , that is , not admonishing one another of the great corruption , which they see crept into Churches ( especially the deceitfull walking of some Church-Officers , who were winked at , when they openly sought by LETTERS and other wayes to corrupt the Churches ) hath not ( by the just hand of God ) brought many troubles and divisions upon them : Again , if a Church be corrupted by suffering scandalous persons in it , what is the Duty of a Sister Church knowing the same to , be true ? And how far , and how long may a Church hold communion with any Church , which keeps scandalous persons in communion howsoever admonished of it . Quest . XIX . Whether the stop , that hath been put to the Lords work , and the good old Cause once famous in the three Nations , with what present oppression and persecution is amongst us : hath not been raised and continued in a speciall manner , by some Church-members ; And whether such Church members have not been more false to the Interest of Christ and his People , then any other people , and betrayed the most glorious Cause that ever was in the world . Jer. 11. 15. Quest . XX . Whether Pride and Covetousness ( so much condemned in holy Scripture ) are sins to be born with in Churches ? If not , what is the reason that few ( if any ) Church members , though never so apparently proud and Coveteous are called to an account for such sins . Besides , whether for Pride and Coveteousnesse , some WITHIN do not far exceed most WITHOVT ; Prov. 8. 13 Hos. 5. 5. 1 Joh. 2. 16. Isa. 2. 12. Mal. 3. 15. 2 Tim. 3. 2. Jam. 4. 6. Psal. 10. 3. 1 Cor. 6 10. Ephes 5. 5. Luk. 12. 15. Col 3. 5. Isa. 5● . 11. Ezec. 16. 48. 51. 1 Cor. 5. 4 Thou canst not bear them that do evill , Rev. 2. 2. Quest . XXI . Whereas the Name of God and Religion , lies under so much reproach everywhere , by reason of the Apostacy , Hypo - ●●●●hood of Professors ; for many hereby are hindred from joyning to Churches : Others hardned in errour and sin ; yea , many by this occasion are become Libertines , Blasphemers , Atheists , and what not ? Query is , How far it is the duty of Churches , publickly to appear in vindicating the great name of God , and wiping off that scandal and reproach which lies upon the truth & them too . Exo. 32. 32. Josh. 7. 9. & Psa. 122. 9. & 137. 5 , 6. Numb. 25. 13. Joh. 2. 17. Neh. 2. 3. Prov. 22. 1. Quest . XXII . That some Brethren at this time not holding forth a faithfull Testimony , against the corruptions crept into the Churches , and shewing the Churches their evill and sin : so far as their light and duty is : whether this be not one great cause , that the abuses and corruptions now in Churches are not reformed ? Further the Query is , In what souldanger that member is , who hath made a solemn Covenant before the Lord with his Brethren to practise all known Gospel order , Christian 〈◊〉 & duties , both to the Church and every individuall member , shall notwithstanding ( contrary to the light of his own conscience ) break that Covenant so solemnly made in the principall part of it . Prov. 14. 25. Ezek. 2. 7. Isa. 58. 1. Jer. 23. 22. Ephe. 17. 15 , 16 , 17 , 18. Rom. 1. 31. Psal. 15. 4. Rom. 21. 27. and 22. 15. 1 Joh. 3. 20. Ruth . 3. 18. Isa. 30. 9. and 63. 8. Quest . XXIII . Our last Query shall be ; first , Whether there be not good ground to think , when the Lord shall bring forth his judgements against the Nations of the world , he will begin at his own house ; Jer. 25. 18. 29. Eze. 9. 6. Amo. 3. 2. 1 Pet. 4. 17. Secondly , Whether the Lords controversie at this time against Churches , be not their neglect of judgement ? Isa. 59. 4. 9. 14 , 15. Thirdly , Whether there be any way ( following the Word of God ) for Churches to escape publique judgments , than to purge out unclean persons and things ? Josh. 7. 13. 26. 2 Sam. 21. 14. Rev. 2. 5. 16. J●●. 1. 15. FINIS . Notes, typically marginal, from the original text Notes for div A43196e-550 * Whereas Mr. William Bridge , preaching lately at the Charterhouse , May 23. 1658. Told his Hearers , That there is now a Generation work , a generation Truth , and generation Sins . Whether it be not the duty of all Pastors and Teachers , clearly to declare unto their people , when the proper Work , Truth & Sins are of this generation . Psal. 40. 10. Jer. 23. 28. Rom. 1. 18.