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WE have for a long time been deeply sensible of the great hurt that many , professing the same Truth with us , ( called in scorn Quakers ) have received , and do remain under in these Parts , as to their Souls inward state in the growth and prosperity of Truth , and the work and effect of it upon them , so that to our certain Observation divers are come to a great loss and decay thereby , as to their inward state in the Truth , by their medling with Worldly Government , in the several parts of it , and respective Offices thereunto belonging ; as some being Judges , wherein they are or may be concerned to pass Sentence of Corporal Punishment upon some , as not only of an Eye for an Eye , but of Life for Life ; the which , although proper and necessary to be executed by Worldly Rulers and Judges , yet seeing Christ hath forbid it unto his Followers , Mat. 5.38 , 39. it is not proper for such as profess to follow Christ , according to the most perfect and clear Gospel Dispensations and Ministration professed by us ; and as it doth not become any of our Profession to receive or undertake the Office of a Worldly Judge , to judge in a matter of Life and Death , or any degree of corporal Punishment , so it is our Judgment and Perswasion , that those of our Profession of the faithful People ( called in scorn Quakers ) should not meddle or be concerned with any other part or office of any worldly Rule or Government , as to be Justice , Sheriff or Constable , or Jury-man in any Criminal Causes , or to chuse or be chosen so to sit in an Assembly or Provincial Council to make Laws against Criminal Offenders , extending either to the taking away of Life or any other corporal punishment . And for this our Perswasion , we give these following Reasons . 1st . Because Christ hath expresly forbid it to his Followers , To take an Eye for an Eye , or a Tooth for a Tooth , nor to resist Evil ; for the same Reason , not to take Life for Life , or Limb for Limb , or to use any Corporal Punishment towards any . 2dly . Because Paul said , in behalf of himself and all good Christians , according to that clear Gospel Dispensation that they were come unto , 2 Cor. 10.4 . The Weapons of our Warfare are not Carnal . Ephes . 2.12 . And we wrestle not against Flesh and Blood. 3dly . Because Christ our Leader and Example said , He came not to destroy mens Lives , but to save them , Luke 9.56 . And when the Woman taken in Adultery was brought before him , though by the Law she deserved Death , yet he did not condemn her , but said , to her , Go , sin no more , John 8.11 . And when some of his Disciples asked him , Wilt thou that we command Fire to come down from Heaven to consume them ? Luke 9.54 . he turned , and rebuked them , and said , Ye know not what manner of Spirit ye are of ; and these concerning whom some of the Disciples spake , were Samaritains , that belonged to a Village , who would not receive Christ into their Village , which was a great breach of Humanity and humane Society , and by his words it appeareth , that to call for fire from Heaven to destroy the Life of Man , or kindle a fire upon Earth to do it , belongeth not to the perfect Gospel Spirit or State , but is of the Law. 4thly . Because Christ has expresly forbidden his Disciples To exercise Lordship , or to lord it over their Brethren , Luke 22.25 , 26. And he said unto them , The Kings of the Gentiles exercise Lordship over them , and they that exercise Authority upon them are called Benefactors ; but ye shall not be so , &c. And since Christ hath allowed and appointed in his Church a spiritual Rule and Authority , that some are to have over others , by the Power of his Spirit in them , that place Luke 22.25 . cannot be understood to forbid amongst his Disciples & Followers , a spiritual Government and Rule in his Church ; and therefore what he forbids is Worldly Government among his Followers , according to the World , 1 Tim. 3.5 . & 5.17 . Heb. 13.7.17 . 2 Cor. 10.8 . 5thly . From these & other places of Scripture , our Friends from the beginning have solemnly declared against all use of the carnal Sword , or of any carnal Weapon to hurt the Body of any man , or take away the Life of any man or men in any ease , whether offensive or defensive ; and for our part we do see it very clearly and plainly , that the use of the Sword , or o● some carnal or bodily Weapons , is so necessary to the Worldly Magistrate to punish such as deserve it , as the executive part of his Office cannot in an ordinary way ( and without Miracles ) be done without it ; and Practice doth sufficiently confirm it in this part of the World , where some professing the same Principle with us against the use of the carnal Sword , or other carnal Weapons , yet because of their Office ( some being Judges , &c. ) have passed Sentence of Death , and other corporal Punishment upon Offenders ; and they could do no less to answer the Trust of the Office they had taken unto them ; and all rational men will judge , that a pair of Stocks , Whipping Post and Gallows , are carnal Weapons , as really as Sword or Gun , and so is a Constables Staff , when used , as hath been by some , to beat and knock down the Bodies of some obstinate Persons & c. ●nd if Bodily Violence may be used by a Constable with his Staff against one , if that one get Ten to rescue him from the Constable and his Assistance , this doth necessarily engage into a carnal way of Fighting in the pursuance of Justice against Offenders ; for it is not the number being great or small that makes a thing to be right or wrong : If it be a transgression of Christs Command to raise 1000 men with Clubs , Swords and Guns to subdue & bring under 1000 men that are unjust Pursuers and Invaders of other mens Properties and Liberties , it is by the same Reason to raise ten or five . And if any Invasion by Gods permission , should happen by French or Indians against the Inhabitants in these parts , if any of us be Magistrates at that time , they cannot discharge the trust and duty that belongeth to them , as such , without raising force of Arms against them ; which would be a plain contradiction to the former Testimony of our Friends ; and to use any Violence to the Body of man , by any Bodily Force , is a Contradiction to that great and Gospel Promise , They shall beat their Swords into Plo● Shares , and their Spears into Pruning Hooks , Isa . 2.4 . Mich. 4.3 . And , as for those Reasons we judge it altogether improper for any who are sincere to their Profession , ( who are in scorn called Quakers ) to be any manner of way concerned in any part of Office-bearing in worldly Government or Execution of Justice , that toucheth the Body or Life of Man , by any corporal Punishment , so more especially to such it is most improper and unbecoming , and and hurtful , who profess to be Ministers of the p●●…ect Jesus , who became our Example to suffer all thing patiently , and not to do violence to any man , to have a hand or part in the inflicting any corporal Punishment upon any for any Offence or Crime whatsoever ; for how improper and unsavoury is it for one and the same man to day to sit on the Beach , bearing the Office of a Judge , and to pass sentence on an Offender , to take an Eye for an Eye , and a Tooth for a Tooth , Limb for Limb , Life for Life , &c. and to morrow to stand up and preach Christs words , Mat. 5.38 , 39. Ye have heard that it hath been said , an Eye for an Eye , and a Tooth for a Tooth , but I say unto you , Resist not Evil ? for scarcely in any other Protestant Profession of Christianity is it allowed for Ministers of the Gospel to be Judges in secular matters . But to prevent all occasion of mistakes or offence , we do solemnly declare our perswasion , That we really believe , and are perswaded , that Magistracy and Worldly Government is an Ordinance of God , and every Magistrate , lawfully called to his Office , is the Minister of God , a Revenger to execute Wrath upon him that doth evil , and that he beareth not the Sword in vain , the which Sword is the Sword of Justice , that ought to be drawn to punish Offenders with corporal Punishment , greater or smaller , according to the nature of the Offence , Knowing ( Tim. 1.9 . ) that the Law is not made for a Righteous Man , but for the Lawless and Disobedient , &c. And also , we●d sincerely believe and declare , according to our sincere Faith and Perswasion , That every one professing Christianity ought to be subject to all lawfull Commands of the Magistrate , as all such are that neither contradict any of the Laws of God , testified and recorded in the holy Scriptures , nor incroach upon the true Liberty of Conscience in things pertaining to the Worship of God ; and that this Subjection to the Magistrate , and his Commands ought to be given by all Christians , from the highest to the lowest degree in the Truth , not only for Wrath , but for Conscience sake ; and that it is well consistent with the highest degree and growth in Christianty , to give all due subjection to the Magistrate in all lawful things , whether the Magistrate be Heathen or Christian , so called , or by any other Name . Yet notwithstanding , we judge that the bearing Office in any Worldly Government of Magistracy , doth not belong to the perfect and clear Dispensation and Ministration of the Spirit , under the clear Gospel Day of Christ that is dawned amongst us , after the long dark Night of Apostacy . And before the dark Night of Apostacy began , the clear Gospel and perfect Day of Christ , and clear Gospel Dispensation and Ministration of the S●i●… of Christ did shine in great Glory from the time immediately after Christs Ascention and giving the holy Ghost , during which time of the clear Gospel and perfect Day of Christ , we find not that any sincere Christians did bear the Office of a Magistrate under Kings or Princes of this World , until the Night of Apostacy came upon the generality of Professors of Christianity , the which Night came gradually upon them , and not all at once ; and in this Night of Darkness there hath been a great Mixture of Truth and Error , as well as of Law and Gospel , that hath had place among the general sort of Professors , and many or most that have been called Christians , that have had a measure of sincerity & integrity , have been more of a legal or Law Spirit than of a Gospel Spirit , and have been rather under the first Ministration of the Spirit than under the second , in great part . And Wars , even in case of Defence , and Worldly Government belong to the first Ministration of the Spirit , that is of the Law , common to pious Gentiles , and many called Christians , but are not proper , nor belonging to the second Ministration of the Spirit , that brings to perfection in the Christian Life and Vertues ; Therefore we caution and exhort all , who have the perfect Life and State of Christianity , and the Virtues ●●… , as their mark & aim before them , not to meddle with Worldly Government or Magistracy , or to act in it by way of Force and Rule , but rather to leave it to others , to whom it is more proper ; and yet to be subject to all lawful Commands of all Magistrates actively ; and if they command unlawful things , to be passive , and not to resist , but patiently to suffer whatever may be inflicted upon them , and pray for all men , for Kings , and all that are in Authority , that we may live a godly and quiet Life under them . Object . 1. But if any say , It is better for honest good vertuous men ( called Quakers ) to rule over their Brethren and others , who may be expected , that they will rule well , and administer Justice impartially , and mix Mercy with Justice in cases that may allow , than by their refusing to bear the Office in Worldly Government , to give up the Government to others , that may do very unjust things , and persecute , yea , exercise great Cruelty over the People . To this we answer , first , Men ought not to do evil that good may come of it , seeing Christ hath commanded his Disciples , Not to exercise Lordship or Worldly Authority over men ; they must regard his Commandment , hoping that all will be turned unto good to them that fear and love God. 2dly , There may be found men that are more fitted and qualified for Worldly Government , to administer Justice in partially , than the People called Quakers , because they may be more knowing and expert in the Laws , and may be men of a just Principle , in whom the just Principle of Truth may in good measure rule , though they be not of our Profession , nor of our Faith or Perswasion in many things ; for there are just men that may be found , and have been found amongst those called Heathens or Gentiles , and why not much rather amongst the lower Professions in Christendom , who though they are not come clearly to the second Ministration of the Spirit , yet may be under the first Ministration thereof , and may be both just men , and better skilled in the Laws than them called Quakers , and therefore more qualified for bearing Office in Worldly Government . And as concerning Persecution and Cruelty , there is a hand of God in suffering those things , when they come , either for the sins of the People , or to try their Faith and Patience , and for the exercise of their Christian Virtues ; and if Persecution and Cruelty be used or Injustice done to any , it is more tolerable that others be the Instruments of it , than any called Quakers ; for if any called Quakers do any unjust thing , it is a great Reflection upon the whole Profession ; but if none of them have any Office in the Government , and any thing be done amiss therein , they will not be chargeable with it . But we hope none will construe our sence or intention , as if we desired Persecution to come either upon us , or any others ; for we do judge and esteem , that outward peace , quiet and freedom from Persecution is a great mercy and blessing of God , which we desire to bless God for , and all his other Mercies ; and our Prayer to God is that none may abuse their outward Liberty , but that it may be blessed to them , and that they may use it to Gods Glory , and their Souls peace and prosperity in the Truth . Object . 2. And if any further Objections be made against this Position , we may conclude they are such as can be made against that position , That under the pure Gospel Dispensation we are not to war nor fight with carnal Weapons ; which our Friends have plainly witnessed against ; nor will this position give any just cause of Offence to superiour Magistrates , but rather it will give them great Satisfaction , to find us a people that are no wise ambitious of Worldly Government , and wholly principled to be subject to their Authority in all things , either actively or passively : By this means all occasions of jealousie or distrust will be removed from them , after they have good tryal of us , by finding us constant to our Principle , that they can be in no danger by us , of being guilty of any Plots or Conspiracies against the Government ; and it can give as little cause of offence to inferiour Magistrates , because men commonly desire places of Office in Magistracy and Government , and if all of our Profession refuse such Places and Offices , this will the more oblige them , by their having the more ready opportunity to have their minds answered . Object . 3. But if any further object , What if one that is a Magistrate be convinced and perswaded to be of our Way , must he leave off being a Magistrate ? To this it is easily answered , If he be really convinced and perswaded by the Spirit of God to be of our way , the same . Spirit that hath convinced him of the Truth of our Way in other things , will convince him of the Truth of it in that also ; and if so , he will freely and willingly desire to lay down his former Power as a Magistrate , to receive greater Power and Honour to be a Disciple and Follower of Christ , who said , My Kingdom is not of this World ; and as his Kingdom is not of this World , so nor will ours be , if we be faithful Followers of him . Nor is this to unchristian all others who are Magistrates , or may not be of our mind in this case ; for we distinguish betwixt the first and second Ministration of the Spirit , and betwixt the present Christianity that many have , as it is partly Legal and partly Evangelical . And to such who aim to arrive to this degree , it may be said , If thou wilt be perfect leave the Worldly Government , and follow Christ , in order to attain the desired Perfection ; for as there are higher and lower degrees in Christianity , so it may be more tolerable or excusable to one in his lower degree , that Teeth no further , and is not convinced of any further discovery , than to another that seeth further , and hath a further and clearer Discovery . And far be it from us to judge men no Christians , that see nor equally into all things pertaining either to the Christian Faith or Practice , provided they hold the Head , and build on the true Foundation , which is Christ Jesus , and have Faith in him , by the help of his Spirit in us , as he dyed for our Sins and rose again for our Justification , who is at the right Hand of God , and also maketh Intercession for us , and hold the most necessary and Fundamental Principles of Christian Doctrine , and obey the Commands of Christ in so far as they are convinced of them , we ought in Charity to allow them to be our Christian Brethren in general , ( yet not of our particular Fellowship or Society ) tho' in some things we differ from them , having further discoveries of Light into spiritual things and mysteries , as particularly in the case of Swearing , and Fighting , or using the outward Weapon in Self-defence , and in the case of Paying Tythes to uphold a Worldly Ministry . It is generally confessed by the People called Quakers , that to Swear or pay Tythes are short of Christian Perfection , and ought not to be done , and yet they are more Charitable than to judge , that no man is in any degree a Christian that doth Swear or pay Tythes , or contribute to a Worldly Ministry , because there are many yet see not the evil of those things , and yet in other things are conscientious , and endeavour to walk in faithfulness to what they know . And as Charity ought to be extended unto them who Swear and pay Tythes , if they see no further , and do not willfully shut their Eyes against a further discovery , so the like Charity may be extended to them who may be concerned in Wars or Government , if they do not see into it , that it belongeth not to the Perfect Dispensation of Christianity . Given forth at the Monethly Meeting of the Christian People , called Quakers , at the House of Phillip James , the 28th of the 12th Month , 1692. And ordered to go forth in the Name and by the Appointment of the said Meeting . Postscript . IT is well known that the despised People of God , called Quakers , have been great Sufferers for their Testimony against Swearing in any case , some by long and close Imprisonments , and others by incurring the Sentence of Praemunire , to the loosing their Estates , and remaining Prisoners during Life , and others have sustained great losses and damages for want of taking of Oathes in Courts of Judicature , &c. whereby they could not clear the Titles of their Lands , nor prove their Debts , and thereby have lost them ; and many Books have been writ and published by the said People against Swearing in any case , particularly that called , A Treatise of Oathes , containing several weighty Reasons why the People called Quakers refuse to Swear , and those confirmed by numerous Testimonies out of Gentiles , Jews and Christians , both Fathers , Doctors and Martyrs . Presented to the King and Parliament in the Year 1675. and subscribed on the behalf of the rest of our Friends , by George Whitehead , and twelve more . Now we being , and desiring to remain in Unity with our faithful Friends , and with their living & faithful Christian Testimony against Swearing in any case , do hold ourselves obliged to maintain and stand up for the said Testimony , according to Mat. 5.54 . But I say unto you , Swear not at all . and James 5.22 . Above all things , my Brethren , Swear not . Therefore we declare unto all People , that we cannot for Conscience fake take an Oath , or tender it to any other , neither in the form as used in England , by kissing the Bible , nor are we free in our Conscience to take that manner of Attestation as used here in Pennsilvania , when administred in their Courts , &c. viz. Thou shalt solemnly declare in the Presence of God and this Court , &c. because to say , I do solemnly declare in the Presence of God , is a calling upon God to be Witness to the truth of the Testimony given , which we look upon to be no less than a presumptuous Tempting of God to summon him as a Witness , not only to our Terrene , but Trivial Businesses , as W.P. &c. hath expresly said in that before-cited Treatise , pag. 17. with which we do cordially agree . But to the grief of our Souls we may say , such Darkness , Ignorance and Apostacy possesseth the hearts of many of those called Quakers here in Pennsilvania , that they are frequently found in the aforesaid Practices , and do frequently use Arguments in the defence thereof ; therefore we can do no less than to give forth this our Christian Testimony against Swearing and Fighting in any case , as above , hoping the Lord will be with us , and preserve us , and enable us to stand faithful in the aforesaid Testimony , whatever Tryals , Sufferings , Losses and Temptations may attend us for the same . Thomas Budd . John Hart. THE END .