The burning bush not consumed wherein (either vnder all deepe sense of wrath; or hardnesse of heart, one may iudge, whether he be the childe of God, or not, &c. Chiefly receyuing satisfaction concerning the sinne against the Holy Ghost. Perused by I.D. and diuers other diuines. 1616 Approx. 228 KB of XML-encoded text transcribed from 97 1-bit group-IV TIFF page images. Text Creation Partnership, Ann Arbor, MI ; Oxford (UK) : 2009-10 (EEBO-TCP Phase 1). A02762 STC 12891 ESTC S103842 99839587 99839587 4021 This keyboarded and encoded edition of the work described above is co-owned by the institutions providing financial support to the Early English Books Online Text Creation Partnership. This Phase I text is available for reuse, according to the terms of Creative Commons 0 1.0 Universal . The text can be copied, modified, distributed and performed, even for commercial purposes, all without asking permission. Early English books online. (EEBO-TCP ; phase 1, no. A02762) Transcribed from: (Early English Books Online ; image set 4021) Images scanned from microfilm: (Early English books, 1475-1640 ; 961:08) The burning bush not consumed wherein (either vnder all deepe sense of wrath; or hardnesse of heart, one may iudge, whether he be the childe of God, or not, &c. Chiefly receyuing satisfaction concerning the sinne against the Holy Ghost. Perused by I.D. and diuers other diuines. Hart, John, D.D. Dyke, Jeremiah, 1584-1639, attributed name. [28], 158, [6] p. Printed by T[homas] C[reede] and B[ernard] A[lsop] for Roger Iackson, and are to be solde at his shoppe in Fleet-streete, ouer against the great Conduite, London : 1616. Editor's dedication signed "I. Hart" = John Hart. I.D. = Jeremiah Dyke?. A dialogue between a minister and a scholar. Printers' names from STC. "A prayer for the distressed", M6-8. Running title reads: A discouery of the child of God, vnder all sense of seeming wrath. The title page is a cancel. 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Keying and markup guidelines are available at the Text Creation Partnership web site . eng Spiritual life -- Modern period, 1500-. 2008-07 TCP Assigned for keying and markup 2008-09 SPi Global Keyed and coded from ProQuest page images 2008-10 John Pas Sampled and proofread 2008-10 John Pas Text and markup reviewed and edited 2009-02 pfs Batch review (QC) and XML conversion THE BVRNING BVSH , NOT CONSVMED Wherein ( eyther vnder all deepe sense of Wrath ; or hardnesse of Heart , one may iudge , whether he be the Childe of God , or not , &c. Chiefly receyuing satisfaction concerning the Sinne against the Holy Ghost . Perused by I. D. ond diuers other Diuines . Iudge nothing before the time . Secret things belong vnto God. 1. Thess . 5.9 . For God hath not appointed vs to Wrath , but to obtaine saluation by our Lord Iesus Christ , who died for vs , that whether we wake or sleep , we should liue together with him . LONDON , Printed by T. C. and B. A. for Roger Iackson , and are to be solde at his shoppe in Fleet-streete , ouer against the great Conduite . 1616. TO THE RIGHT WORSHIPFVLL , M. WILLIAM TOTHIL , and M. FRANCIS DRAKE , Esquiers , Iustices of the Peace , &c. and to the no lesse religious and vertuous Gentlewomen , Mrs. KATHERINE TOTHIL , and Mrs. IOAN DRAKE , their wiues , the increase and perpetuitie of all Happinesse , &c. Right Worshipfull , AS my wandering thoughtes were musing which way I might best acknowledge with perpetuall thankes , that duetie which my best loue oweth vnto your many vndeser-ued by-past kindenesses : this little Booke ( then readie for the Presse , ) did steppe foorth , proffering so to accomplish my desire , as that nothing ( saue timelesse Time in the generall dissolution ) should bee able quite to blotte out , and deface the memory of this my wish : which since it hath nowe so faithfully performed , I beseeche you to accept thereof : that like vnto PHILIPS little Boy ) it may put you in minde , not onely that there is a terrible endlesse wrath prepared for wilfull , finall , impenitent sinners : but also that ( if need bee ) it may helpe you how to shunne the same . Gladly it would haue singled foorth some one of you , but that the strict bonds both of Nature and grace , which in loue hath so vnited you ( as though you had but one soule ) did strictly forbid the same : wishing me rather , that ( since such a fast Gordian knotte had alreadie tyed your affections ) I should likewise doe my best to vnite you in a peece of Paper : Not that thereby I should any thing adde vnto your happinesse : ( whose Cuppe already runneth ouer with a plentifull measure , pressing downe of all blessings ) but that thereby I might shewe , how farre my fainte and weake wishes extend : that as already vppon Earth , GOD hath buylt you a sure House vppon a Rocke , so also that you would endeauour to buylde your selues vppon the Rocke CHRIST IESVS : that at last when ( at the all-shaking voyce of the Arch-Angell , and Trumpet of GOD , sounding ) downe-rayning Fire with floods of horrors , blowne with the tempestuous whyrlewinde of indignation , shall ouerwhelme the wicked , and seeme to dossolue the whole frame of Nature : You ( like his Doues ) may finde a sure shelter in the holes of this Rocke , vntill ( Iudgement finished , ) with all Saintes , you may mount with Him , to possesse for euer those infinite vnspeakeable Ioyes , the greatnesse whereof can not bee knowne , vntill possessed . Yours in duty , much and euer bound , I. HART . TO ALL THOSE WHO EIther ( for the present ) Thunder-beaten with the terror of the wrath of GOD , mourne in secret , vnder any sense of the same , or feele hardnes of heart , much Peace , Comfort , Softnesse , and speedy deliuerance . Deare Soules . THough I knowe assuredly that the plodding thoughts of both sortes of you , to whom I now write , vseth for the most part to be rapt vp ; the one , with the imagination of Wraths all-ouerturning deluge which you feare , presently to precipitate you , ( as I thinke ) in the eternall neuer dying furnace of all-deuouring flames : the other , with seeming substantiall thoughts ( grounded vpon former and present stony impenitent effects ) imagining your selues to be as sure of reprobation , as thogh already ( assured by some Angel of the Decree ) Caines marke had sealed you on the forehead , as sheep to the slaughter : which now so transporteth your hopelesse soules beyond all limits of moderation , that you can lende your eares to heare no voyce , which soundeth not of Desperation , because eyther you thinke it is too late , or in vaine , to vse the meanes : or that Wraths ouerpressing load so keepeth you down in the flouds of sorrowes , that you are not able to looke vp . Yet could I not chuse but send vnto your view this little Treatise , which by ( Gods prouidēce cōming into my hands ) onely for your sakes , did now see the light : wishing , that though ( of all others ) I was least able to comfort you ; yet , that therin you might finde a word in due time : which I know you shall , if you bannish Carnall reason , Sense , Curiositie in prying into Gods Decree before you vse the meanes ; and that fast rooted naturall Popery of the soule , which euer desireth to finde somewhat in nature , some sense , some feeling , some goodnes , wherewith to be worthy in some sort , to lay holde of Christ . I should exceede the limites of a short Epistle ( if I were able ) to reckon vp the free proclamations of the booke of God ; in all which , Christ in the Act of apprehending him , tyeth you vnto no condition , but freely to take and lay hold . It may be , you will obiect , that he calleth onely the weary and laden , and so you say you are not : but to leaue that question , whether you bee laden or not , and who must be iudge , ( since for the most part in temptation you belie your selues ) who knoweth not that Christ in that place rather incourageth such to come , then precisely sheweth , that onely those who feele such a burden , must , and can come and lay holde . O that you were not thus iniurious to the peace of your soules , so much to relye vpon Sense and feeling , so much debasing the strength and glorie of Faith , which many times without sense ( and beyond all reason ) apprehendeth CHRIST : thus offering violence vnto his Kingdome : who thus apprehended , there followeth the spirit of Mourning , and Compassion , Feeling , and other graces . I wonder if the Diuell can once fasten this temptation vpon you , that you must haue such and such a measure of faith , feeling , and repentance , to lay holde of Christ , what measure his vnmeasurable subtilty wil be contented with . Sure I am , if he may be vmpire , you may be dissolued in teares and despaire , before he say hoe . Your strongest let in laying hold of Christ ( as may be seene by most of all your Obiections ) ariseth from your prying into the Decree of God , to be assured of your election : which because you cannot finde , ( iudging of your selues , according to your former actions , & thinking God like vnto you ) you conclude all is in vaine , you knowe you are Reprobates : there is no hope : so entertaining all threatnings ; and reiecting the Promises . Of which pretended knowledge , if you should be examined by God ( as Adam was ) whence thus you knowe your selues to be naked Reprobates ? I imagine your answere ( with his ) must needes bee , that Sathan hath deceyued and deluded you so to thinke . And indeed the truth is , that the most part of you looke too much at the Decree of God ; your measure of sense and feeling , desiring the assurance of saluation , as it were , at your first entrie into Christianity : which is the glorious price and Crowne , wayting for you at the end of the race : If you so runne that you may obtaine . I knowe you would thinke him an vnreasonable Souldier , who should desire to bee a Colonnell or a Generall the first yeare , which is not obtained without long seruice , great valour , much watching , wayting , and often hazard of life : And that your seruant would much displease you , in demanding his yeeres wages before he had done a weekes worke . Iust so is your case , when at first you would bee assured of your Election and Saluation , before you haue done a quarter or half your work ; ( Nay somtimes scarse begun the same ) chiefly whē you refuse the way of life , which is , to walke in the meanes , whereby onely wee attaine the assurance of saluation . It may bee you thinke mee a miserable comforter , thus rather to crosse you , then powre balme into your wounds , or bewaile your hardnesse of Heart : but would to God you were not more iniurious then I , in robbing your selues of the strong Tower of your saluation : I meane , of the way to lay holde on Christ for your life : For indeede so doe I pittie all of you , that if my soule were able , and could dissolue it selfe in teares for you , your sorrowes would haue an ende : since I know , such and so great is the insupportable terrour of Gods wrath , chiefly , if hee ( leading the maine battell of his forces ) fight against you , as Ieremie speaketh ) in anger , in wrath , and in great indignation , that there is no creature but must sinke vnder the same : but it is the conclusions some of you draw from thence , which I ayme at , and would willingly cut downe by the roote : viz : I feele no faith , therefore I haue none : I neuer had faith , therefore I shall neuer haue any : My former actions haue bene hypocriticall , therefore I am damned : my Feeling is lost , therefore I shall neuer haue it againe : I neuer had feeling or sense of Gods loue , therefore I shall neuer haue any : God is angry , therefore hee will neuer be appeased : the Sunne shineth not , therefore it will neuer shine : It is night , therefore it will neuer bee day : the heart was neuer moued , therefore it shall , and neuer can bee mooued : I haue thus , and thus long heard the word , and it hath not renued nor moued mee no more then a stone , therefore it shall and cannot , for such a heart is immoueable : I am dead in sinne , therefore I can neuer be aliue : God is gone , therefore hee will neuer come againe : The meanes harden mee more and more , therefore I will neuer heare no more : I cannot bring my he●●● in temper to ioyne with my voyce in prayer , the 〈◊〉 it is vaine to bring words vnto God , offering outward submissiue obedience : I cannot pay vnto one ten thousand pounds which I owe him , therfore I will pay him neuer a penny : I cannot doe all I should , therefore I will doe nothing : God neuer loued mee , therefore hee will neuer loue mee : I cannot repent , nor euer could , therefore I neither can nor shall : God in the terror of wrath appeareth my enemy , therefore hee will neuer haue mercie , &c : with a number the like absurdities , the very naming whereof , may bee more then confutation sufficient to any reasonable creature not infected with the like follie . But speake now ( though I graunt vnto you all your grounds , many of which for the most parte , are false lyes ) Why may not you hope to escape , as well as others before you ? Who deliuered Dauid , Iob , Ioseph , Moses , Damell , &c. from daungers , terrors of soule , the Deuill , imprisonment , drowning , and Lyons den ? but you say , that you are in the Furnace of his wrath . And why ( with the three Children ) may you not bee deliuered from this fiery furnace ? GOD is the same still ( who as the Prophet speaketh ) euen in wrath remembers mercie : Therefore why may not your bush burne , or ( at least ) seeme to burne with fire , yet not be consumed : since his mercies are ouer all his works ? hee onely knowing what he hath decreed . And you , who are ( for the present ) bound vp in hardnesse of heart , in the Name of GOD I beseech you , let neuer this voyce of desperation come from you againe : ( All is in vaine , there remaineth no hope : ) What , is it possible , No hope ? Is God in heauen , who is wonderfull in all his works ? and doth abundantly aboue all that wee are able to thinke or speake ? and so long dare any little worme or piece of clay , ( a little moate ) nay not so much , in regard of him , who is all in all , to say there is no hope ? Oh! there remaneth alwaies hope so long as we breath . For you knowe as the Apostle speaketh : Hope that is seene is no hope : For how can a man hope for that which he seeth ? so that hope aboue hope , is hope indeede . O hope still to speed as well as any hard-hearted who euer were called , as all haue beene before calling . When then after effectuall calling , you looke vpon Dauids secure sleepe , and Salomons strange hard-hearted declining from the wayes of God , with the wonderfull and hard-harted impietie of Manasseh , and Nebuchadnezzar , before calling : and the exceeding mercies of God vnto them : and diuers in our age , with ( the good Thiefe ) called home at the last houre : O learne to haue a good conceit of God. It was you know , the first thing that encouraged the prodigall sonne to come home vnto his Father , because he had a good conceit of him . Therefore , thinke you with him , the Heauenly Father hath receiued such and such exceeding sinners into mercie . Though I haue run ryot , & straied , yet haue I not gon so farre as they , or if I haue , yet I will submit my selfe vnto him , it may bee , hee will also be mercifull vnto mee . But what shall I say ? It is God who must perswade Iaphet to dwell in the Tents of Sem. It is hee who must cast downe , perswade , inlighten , drawe , instruct , teach , conuert , and inlarge our hearts , that wee may bee lifted vp , consent , see , come , vnderstand , bee taught , conuerted , and runne the wayes of his commandements , which that he would hasten in his own good time to doe , my fainte , fewe , colde , and weake petitions shall euer ( to my power ) beg for you . Onely now ( for conclusion ) my earnest request vnto you is , that since it is the custom of most of you , either in reading the Scriptures , or anie other good booke ) to reade vntil you find somewhat ( in your iudgement ) against you , and then close the booke suddenly , as though nothing there did belong vnto you ; that you would not so vse this little ensuing Treatise : but rather before you Censure , to reade it quite through : reiecting whatsoeuer herein you find contrary either to the Word , or experience of the Faithfull : which if you shall doe , you shall bind me more then euer to remaine , Yours in the All-sufficent , not-changing , wonderfull , EMANVEL . I. H. The Booke to the Reader , chiefly if thou be a Nicodemite . THy thoughts I know will straight inquire My Fathers Name with great desire : Who if he please thee not , why then . The lines are rude , and nought the penne : But know thou must thy minde appease ; For though thou aske , I cannot ease Thy heart : therefore be thou content To feede on that which God hath sent . And if I iumpe not with thy mind , Call me not therefore now vnkind , Who proffer thus to ease thy load Of sorrow 's on my shoulders broad : And if my lines seeme strange and new , Remember how a learned lew Did wander , when Christ would him gaine , How any could be borne againe . Therefore though thou canst not conceiue These things , yet let me pray thee leaue , To say therefore no such things are , Which doe surmount thy reason farre : But rather like a little child , Who is not with such thoughts defil'd , Be thou content to passe that way Christ vs commaunds , though sense say nay ; And pray ( though now thy eyes be blind ) Him to enlighten yet thy mind And sight , that thou mayest clear'ly see , Things yet not thought or knowne of thee ; That with that mountaine-seeing man , Heau'ns Chariots thou may'st see and scan , And so confesse with others moe , Thus long , what blindnes kept thee so . But if thou be of gentle kind , With sorrow's tam'd , and now not blind , My sute is , though I stray and erre , ( As mortals ) yet thou would'st deferre Thy censure , to peruse me quite , When , though I seeme not full perfite , Beleeue no more then doth agree With sacred lore and veritie . Then this my paines shall counteruaile , If on my shame thou cast a vaile . To the Right Worshipfull , Maister William Tothil Esquire , &c. SON . IN peace men vse for to prouide for warre , Best Pylots doe waite for ensuing storm 's ; Yea , euen this wisedome is in sillie worm's ( Who though from reasons reach they stray so farre , ) In Summer still for winter to prepare , So though your Sunne , Sir , now doe shine so cleare , That storm 's appeare not either farre or neare ; Yet since experience hath found it so rare , To haue two heau'ns and in them both a stare : Long time without some crossing gloom tonight ; When Wraths heart gnawing fear's shall dim the sight Of former grace , filling the minde with Care. Though still I wish your mind free from such fear's : Let this yet neere ( if need be ) stanch such teares . To the right Worshipfull , Mistris Katherine Tothil , worthy of all respect . SON . HEau'n-shaking Wrath , pour'd out like flaming fire , Bending the rockes , tearing the hils asunder , Tossing the earth , and all things bringing vnder : Who would not from the same in haste retire ? Me thinkes I quake whil'st I the same admire ; No wonder then such wet their couch with teares , Who but in part conceiue these horride fear 's , Not knowing where to shrowd them from his ire . A Fortresse strong I know you wish to gaine , Whence sinne and Satan you may both defie : Looke then in this where you your state may trie , Freeing your selfe from feare of endlesse paine : Much could I wish , but all must rest in this , That euery thing may serue t' augment your blisse . To the Right Worshipfull , Maister Francis Drake Esquire , &c. SON . IF one Deuill loos'd so tortur-tosse the minde , If Princes ire so vexe with thousand cares : If crosses here , so fill men with despaires : If so with tooth-ach , stone gowt , they are pin'd , If here sterne conscience gnawing worme so grind , What sorrowes then in Wraths infernall caues , With matchlesse might shall wound all Satans slaues ? To blacknes , darknes , endlesse woe confi'd ? More , O! but when great iudgements voice shall sound That last retreat , neuer to meete againe . Me think's I heare what shout 's , what shrick's in vaine They bellow forth , to see the Saints so crown'd , Amongst the best , Sir , this shall be your crowne , To mount with these , when those shall be cast downe . To the Right Worshipfull , Mistris Ioane Drake , worthy with the worthiest . SON . WHilst thoughts of flam's & not consuming fire ( Where tortur'd soul's howle , yel , crie , neuer die ) Inflam'd with breath of Iah's deuouring ire , ( That rents the rockes , and makes the mountaines flie ) Did wound with feares my soule , yet you on hie , With Eagles wings I wish'd might mount away : Within the Vaile ( at last ) to dwell for aye : Such gnashing , lashing , howling , nere to trie , Whil'st Sunne-shine light your face doth yet array , And Bridegroomes comming hath not shut the gate , That restlesse cries , ( which neuer came too late , ) Might tempests stay , force heauen , and make you way . And ( if you will beleeue me ) heere I vow , My censer alwayes shall keepe Wrath from you . TO THE BOOKE . SON . HEnce , hence smal booke , thy foote steps see thou bend Vnto all such whom Sathan luls asleepe , Knocke hard rowze vp , tell them the day doth peepe Then vnto those whose hearts all sorrowes rend : That Wraths deluge hath measure , time and end , Tell them , and that though sterne deuouring ire , Like thunders lightning seeme to set a fire , Their torturd soules , yet wish them but attend A while , vntill cloud-vanishde Sunshine light Appeare with ioy to giue their foes the foile , Meane while their wounds bind vp with ba●●me and oyle Wait still , stay teares and feares with all thy might . And if for all this , yet thou canst not please them , Weepe still with them , for this perhaps may ease them . A Table of the Contents and summe of this Booke . 1 PRoofes that there is a God , pag. 6. 2 Proofes that the Scriptures are the Word of God. 10 3 Definition of God. 13 4 The Obiect of His Iustice and Mercy , ibidem . 5 The causes of the proceeding of the wrath of God 14 6 How God is saide to be angrie . 16 7 How to discerne when wrath is at hand . 19 8 How God bringeth about his wrath . ibidem . 9 That Hardnes of Heart ( though the meanes both past and present , haue not beene effectuall ) cannot argue Reprobation . 21 10 Signes of temptation . 25 11 The conditions of such who are , and who are not vnder wrath , described . 27 12 Who they are who feele wrath , and yet are far from the same . 27 13 The seuerall conditions of his Estate . 28 14 What a troubled soule in this estate tossed with diuers tempests of wrath , must doe . 29 15 Who they are , who haue not a deepe sense of wrath , and yet are farre from wrath . 29 16 The seuerall conditions of this estate . 30 17 How to know whether in hardnesse of heart , we are vnder wrath or not . 32 18 Comforts for such , who are not able to serue God , as they thinke , in spirit and truth . 33 19 Why God at first will not be found in the meanes . 35 20 Who they are who feele no wrath , and yet remaine vnder the wrath of God. 36 21 The seuerall conditions of this Estate . 37 22 How farre a Professor maybee vnder this wrath . 38 23 Description of a sauing knowledge . 43 24 How to know whether or not Christ hath beene laid hold vpon . 45 25 Triall of true sorrow . 47 26 The triall of spirituall desires . 49 27 Trials whether or not one hath had feeling . 51 28 Difference of restrayning and renuing vertue of the holy spirit . 52 29 Comforts in this estate vnder hardnes of heart . 53 30 Essentiall markes of the renuing spirit . 54 31 Who they be , who feeling wrath , shall perish in the same . 55 32 What sense Reprobates haue being wakened with horror . 56 33 Degrees how this horror commeth vnto them . 58 34 Difference betwixt the Elect and them in the sense of wrath . ibid. 35 Behauiour of the childe of God vnder the sense of wrath . 59 36 How neere the child of God may come vnto the wicked , in feeling of the wrath of God. 60 37 How to iudge of Gods secret fauour in such an estate . 61 38 Faith must not be measured by the fruits thereof , and feeling in the time of desertion . 62 39 Why and how for the present , one may walke in the meanes with small or no comfort , and yet God be true in all his promises . 63 40 Why Nouices in Christianity haue much feeling . ibid. 41 Why aged Christians haue lesse feeling then at first , yet stronger consolation . 65 42 Why Gods children so mourne for the want of feeling . 67 43 Why Gods children so much rely vpon feeling . 68 44 Wherefore God giueth vnto his children such a measure of feeling at first . 69 45 Why God delayeth to giue comfort vnto such for so long a time . 71 46 The Rocke of refuge in such desertions . 73 47 A Tentation rising from thence refuted . p. 75 48 How God reuealeth himselfe vnto the soule . p. 81 49 Triall of rue light . p. 82 50 Triall to know , whether the sight of Miserie come by the right Spirit . p. 83 51 Consolations in Hardnes of heart , one as yet not hauing perceiued a change . p. 87 52 Consolations against desperation , though all ones life-time he hath had no feeling . p. 91 53 The greatest and least measure of feeling , the Saints haue in this life . p. 95 54 What the disposition of the child of God is , in the least measure of feeling , either vnder terror or security . p. 96 55 Why God will haue his children to feele stings of conscience , and hardnesse of heart . p. 99 56 Effects of former feeling in desertion . p. 102 57 How fearefully the child of God , after effectuall calling may fall . p. 105 58 How farre the child of God may be oppressed with the sense of wrath , yet remaining in a safe estate . p. 107 59 How farre hee may stray in his affections : with the causes of this disorder . p. 109 60 Degrees , how sinne groweth vpon the Elect. p. 110 61 Whether the child of God may fall into such grosse sinnes , as wicked men doe . p. 112 62 A discouerie of the sin against the holy Ghost . p. 113 1. What it is . 2. Why it is so diuersly named . 3. Where the chiefe residence thereof is . 4. How there it may be iudged of . 5. His principall qualitie who committeth the same . 6. How many sorts of men may commit it . 7. Definition of this apostasie . 8. Why thus it is punished ? 9. By what steps it mounts to the height of all impietie . 10. How farre one chosen in the decree of God , may seeme to wade in this sinne , and yet be called backe . 11. Consolation for poore soules : who imagine they committed this sinne . 63 Why Gods children fall into grosse sinnes like vnto wickedmen . p. 133 64 The state and disposition of the child of God , whilest he sleepeth in impenitency , with the causes thereof . p. 135 65 In this estate , the actions of the renewed and vnrenewed part . p. 138 66 How God raiseth such after their falles . p. 140 67 How God worketh in a more speciall manner , when he lifteth them vp . p. 144 68. That in some sort , the childe of God may fall into the same sinne againe after true repentance . p. 147 69. Why the tempter doth thus beset Gods children . p. 149 70. The meanes to withstand this temptation . p. 150 71. Why God suffereth his children to fall againe and againe in the same sinne . p. 154 72. What must comfort and support the child of God , falling into the same sinne againe and againe . p. 155 A DISCOVERIE OF THE CHILD OF GOD , vnder all sense of Gods most terrible seeming Anger . Scholler . I Reioyce Sir now at length in so good a time to meete with you , whom I haue of a long season so earnestly desired to conferre with : because of some doubts which doe much disquiet me . Minister . So doe I also reioyce Sir to see my old friend ; wishing that it would please God of his infinite mercy to make me an vnworthy instrument of any comfort to you , or any of his children . Schol. What speake you ? Comfort Sir ? I am so farre from being troubled , that I doubt of the foundation of Religion : and whether there be any neede of Comfort , or any thing to be troubled for ? Minist . This is most strange , that any reasonable creature should doubt of that which the whole world hath vniuersally taken as granted : what meane you in so saying , that you doubt of the foundation of all ? Schol. The truth is , my tortured soule is much perplexed whether there be a God or not . Minist . Whence ariseth this tentation ? Schol. First , from great and strong perswasions that there is none . Next , in that I see most part of the world to liue as though there were neither heauen nor hell . Lastly , in that I see such a strange seeming confusion , the good being oppressed , and the wicked scaping vnpunished . Minist . The strength of tentation , and carnall reason ( which I perceiue to bee the ground of all you alledge ) can be no sufficient reasons to proue such dreams . And wheras you say , the wicked in this life escape for the most part vnpunished : It rather proues ( as the Scripture speaketh ) that ( like fatted oxen ) they are reserued to the day of slaughter and wrath . Yet , imagine your false foolish reasons were true . What is this then which so troubles you ? why complaine you ? why doe you not then liue in peace , if there be no Deitie ? Schol. I cannot , for I feele within me perpetuall terrors and vexations , which bereaue me of all manner of rest : yea sometimes thoughts , that I am deceiued ; that my Atheisticall opinions are damnable ; that there is certainly somewhat ( I know not what ) both to be loued , honoured , and feared . Minist . Then striue against your tentations . Schol. I am not able . Minst . Did not your parents traine you vp in the foundation and knowledge of Religion ? Sc. They did , at which time me thought I abounded in knowledge , Faith , Loue Practise of all graces , thinking euery thing to be plaine and easie . But now ( like a ship which hath beene a long time tossed in the Seas without al sight of land ) I doubt whether there be any such things I formerly imagined : all my former feelings , faith , repentance , loue , ( in my sense ) are gone : In place whereof , I remaine full of all manner of doubtings , with which , though I be not strucke with any extraordinary terror , yet haue I extreame discontentments , not reioycing in any thing . Minist . Certainly there must bee some causes of your discontentment ; you must banish doubting and carnall reason : beleeue in God , and you shall find ease . Sch. If there be a God , this is my infidelity , that I cannot beleeue in him , and then is my estate a great deale more feare full in this , that all my actions haue bin hypocriticall ; that now I finde my selfe to be giuen ouer to a hardhart , with a reprobate sense ; ioyned with an impossibilitie to fight or striue for grace , or ( which is more fearful ) to haue no desire to striue for the same . Minister . Before wee passe any further , let vs lay this infallible foundation ; that most certainly there is a God. Schol. My infidelity and doubting is such , that I shall neuer bee fully of your minde , vnlesse by reason I be conuinced of the same . Minist . There must bee no disputing , against receiued grounds and principles : chiefely against this the ground of all . Schol. Yet as you remember , I beseech you shew me some reasons , prouing a Deitie , or that there is a God. Minist . Nature it selfe fully prooueth the same . 1. From the Creation , for if the world be without beginning so is it also without ending , and so it and all therein is God , hauing made it selfe , which were most absurd to thinke : but since it shal haue an ending ( all the creatures thereof tending to corruption ) hence it followeth , that it must needes haue a beginning , the Creator whereof , is God. 2. The excellencie of all the creatures shew the same : so infinite in formes , shapes , colours , & diuers dispositions : chiefly the supernaturall spirit of man , not satiate with any thing in Nature . 3. Man himselfe , sheweth that there is a God , for one man leadeth vs to another , vntill by degrees we come vp to the first . Here I aske , where he had his beginning ? Eternall he was not , which his miserable nature so subiect to alteration & change , well sheweth , chiefly his dissolutiō ; ( Eternitie & change , like light and darknes , being so directly contrary . ) If it be said , this change came by his fall ; then , I ask , whence he fell ? So still , all we can thinke , it must leade vs vnto God the Creator of all . 4. The wel ordered gouernment in the worlde : things inferiour seruing still things superiour ; vntil all things ioyne in mans seruice ; shewe that there is also some supreame power , vnto which he must obey . 5. The harmony of contrarie Elements , whereof all bodies do consist , so farre from destroying one another , that they preserue all and agree : prooueth a superiour causing power . 6. The naturall instinct of all nations , ( rather adoring stockes , stones , and beastes , then no Deitie at all ) proueth the same . 7. The conscience of all , being as it were a law against vs , in giuing both testimony , and iudgment , is a most strong proofe : for it testifieth , neither to men nor Angels : neither feareth them . Therefore it must bee God himselfe . Further , would not our reason tell vs by and by , if wee were in some faire built ruinous countrey or citie , that there had some people dwelt : that some hands had built the same ? So may we say of this world , when we see it so replenished with so many goodly creatures , that some great power did make the same , & that must needs be God. Moreouer , the place of God , proueth that there is a God : for ( as one saith ) euery place is in regard of somwhat contained in the place . So the Earth is full of wormes , and such like things ; the sea containeth fishes ; faire houses containe men & women ; Hell it is the place for diuels . Heauen likewise must not bee emptie , it being the goodliest of all the rest : when wee looke vpon the same we must needes say , that there dwelles the Lord of the countrey , there dwelles God himselfe . Lastly ( but it were too tedious ) I might adde how abundantly the Scriptures shewe the same : as also the euent of things contrary to reason : Miracles , Prophecyings , continuall mercies of fruitfull seasons , &c. Which Paul mentioneth : punishments in this life , with strange iudgements on diuers wicked men ; as Herod , &c. with the wonderfull power of the spirit in the experience of the faithfull . Further , ( as one obserues ) that no volume hath euer bin written directly in confutation of the same . Sch. My mind is no lesse perplexed cōcerning the authoritie of the Scriptures whether they be the word of God or not . Minist . The insufficiencie of these doubts may soone bee shewed vnto you . Because , admit once that there is a God : then of necessitie it will followe that hee is King of kings ; and that as subordinate temporarie Princes haue Lawes and statutes , whereby they rule their states : so must needes the supreame Lord of all , much more haue lawes and statutes wherby to gouerne the whole world . And these must needs be the holy Scriptures . Scholler . Perswasions are no proofes , therfore shew vnto me how I may rest assured that the Scriptures are the word of God. Min. There bee many reasons to proue ; yet none are powerfull to perswade : vnlesse God ioyne with the same by the effectuall working of his blessed Spirit . Schol. So farre as you can remember , I intreate you giue me satisfaction . Minist . The Antiquitie , Harmony , Consent , Sinceritie , Miracles , and Martyrs , testimony of the Scriptures , might be sufficient proofes to satisfie any indifferent person : But if vnto them we adde , 1. That great generall inward change which suddenly it makes in men , when but some plaine sentences thereof are dropped into their hearts , filling them with horrors , so that when the heart is thus wounded , no other medicine can comfort or cure the same ; saue the same word : when all mens eloquence will not serue the turne . 2. That great power it hath to cast down all the strong holds of sinne and Sathan : when they ioyne for destruction of the soule . 3. That humble and rich pouertie thereof , that in a sober , yet loftie stile , it farre surpasseth ( in excellencie of Eloquence ) all the best Orators of the world , containing therein the foundation of all sciences : wee may rest fully assured thereof . Further , our owne doubtings ( when Satan and our owne corruptions would perswade vs , that it is not Scripture ) strongly proue the truth thereof : for Satan is a liar , and the father of lies : therefore , if it were forged , he would contend for maintenance thereof . As also wee may see those who most study and practise the same , most holy and wise . Contrarily , the others most prophane . It were tedious to reckon vp all , how miraculously it hath euer beene preserued in all ages : how truely all the Prophecies therof haue bene and are accomplished , both in the reiected wandering of the Iewes , the calling of the Gentiles , Incarnation of Christ , comming of Antichrist , &c. How though it were written many hundred yeeres agoe , it meeteth with all new sinnes . How powerfully being alledged in prayer , It wrastleth with God , Offereth violence to the kingdome , quieteth the soule , keepeth off iudgements , and obtaineth mercies , &c. How of all other writings , this onely is written in the heart : so that at the houre of death when other knowledge ( wholly , or in great part ) vanisheth , this is most fresh in our memories , both for our owne comfort , and the instruction of others , as in Iacob , Dauid , &c. So that most certainly , the word is not from men ( for our nature is contrary to it ) nor from Sathan ( seeing he raiseth vp his instruments against it ) therefore from God himselfe . Schol. What is God ? Minist . God is a Spirit , Eternall , Infinite , Omnipotent , most Holy , one in Essence , but three in Persons ; the Father , Sonne , and holy Ghost . Schol. What is the Essence of God ? Minist . The Nature of God , whereby indeed , God is and doth consist . Schol. What is chiefly to be considered in the nature of God ? Min. The Attributes of God. Schol. What properties are chiefly to be considered in the nature of God concerning his creatures ? Min. Two principally . Schol. Which be they ? Min. 1. His mercy . 2. His iustice . Schol. What is the obiect of his mercy ? Min. Mans miserie . Schol. What is the obiect of his iustice ? Min. Sinne. Schol. What is sinne ? Min. The transgression of the law . Schol. What is the reward of sinne ? Minst . Death , temporarie and eternall , both in soule and body . Schol. But how commeth it to passe , that sinne is thus rewarded ? Min. By reason of the Anger or Wrath of God against all manner of sinne , in all manner of persons . Schol. Is Anger in God a passion , as it is in man ? or may we thinke there is Anger in God ? Min. No. Schol. How then must we consider of the wrath of God ? Minist . 1. His most iust will , and most assured and holy decree in punishing sinne , must be considered . 2. His threatnings against sinne . 3. The punishment of sinne it selfe . Schol. What kindleth the wrath of God ? Minist . Sinne. Schol. But doe you thinke God to be in this sort angry with all mens sinne ? Minist . Yea verily , both against the sinnes of the Elect and Reprobate . Schol. Why so ? Minist . Because all sinne , in all persons , is directly against the holinesse of his Nature . Schol. Doe you therefore thinke that the wrath of God is kindled against all sinne , in all men alike ? Minist . No. Schol. How can that agree with the former : that God is angry with all sinnes , and is not angry yet alike against all sinnes in all mens persons ? Minist . Because that Christ Iesus hath taken away that anger from the Elect , suffering himselfe that which was due vnto them . Schol. Shew me then , how God is angry against the Elect , and how against the Reprobrate ? Minist . God is said to be angry with his Elect. First , when he decreeth to chastise his Sinne. Secondly , when he threatneth his sinne . And lastly , when hee indeed ( in mercy for a while ) chastiseth them for their further saluation . Schol. How is God said to be angry with the reprobate ? Minist . When in this life ( according to his former decree ) hee punisheth them with perpetuall hardnesse of heart , or any kind of iudgement : And in the life to come , powreth out the vials of his wrath and indignation vpon them for euermore . Schol. What necessitie is there that the wicked should be punished for euer ? Minist . Because they do beare their owne sinnes , and the punishment due vnto them : not hauing Christ to free them . Schol. But cannot the wicked releeue themselues ? Minist . No. Schol. How so ? Minist . Because not being able to satisfie the Maiesty whom they haue offended , they must of necessity endure his wrath for euer . Schol. What is the reason that their sufferings cannot satisfie ? Minist . Because they are but finite creatures , not being able to satisfie that infinite offended Maiesty : therefore they must suffer for euermore . Schol. What may wee learne from hence ? Minist . That it is a terrible thing to fall into the hands of the liuing God. Schol. What lesson of comfort may we learne from it ? Minst . That wee are exceedingly bound to Iesus Christ , who hath suffered this wrath for vs. Scho. How may we learne to discerne and iudge of the greatnesse of this wrath ? Min. Looke first vpon the destruction of the Angels . 2. The curse which came vpon Adam and his posterity for sinne . 3. The destruction which came vpon the first world , by the floud . 4. The burning of Sodome with fire . Next to the sending of Christ into the world , and the wrath of God powred out vpon him for our sinnes ; the euerlasting fire prepared for Reprobate men and Angels . Schol. What should wee learne from hence ? Minist . Three things . 1. To consider seriously of the greatnesse of the wrath of God. 2. Not to presume of mercy . 3. Warily to fly to and eschew sinne by all meanes , least we fall into the hands of the liuing God. Schol. How may wee know when the wrath of the liuing God is comming ? Minist . First , when the word of God wakeneth not . Next , when sinne aboundeth in the aboundance of the word . 3. When God changeth the order and constitution of his Creatures . 4. When God to ( waken ) sendeth light iudgements , and men are neuer a whit the better . Scho. Which way doth God vse to bring about his wrath ? Minist . First , hee plagueth mens soules with hardnesse of heart and senslesnesse . Next hee plagueth the creatures which should be for Comforts vnto man. Then hee commeth vpon the body plaguing it with some sensible iudgement , often in this life . Further , powring out a sensible wrath vppon the soule vnto destruction . Lastly hee reiecteth and casteth both body and soule into torments for euer . Schol. Who then is in the most dangerous estate ? Min. Such who lie vnder the wrath of God , yet being senslesse of the same . Schol. What if they be not wakened in time ? Min. Then they must perish in the seuere wrath of God. Schol. Now , as euer you meane to see the face of God , and liue in heauen for euer , speake from your conscience . May one who hath a long time liued vnder the meanes , for the present shut vp in hardnes of heart , which hee knowes and in part feeles : neither being able to helpe or striue against it , so being and liuing vnder the wrath of God ; conclude therefore that he is a reprobate , which shall at no time , either repent or haue a soft heart , and must we beleeue the words of such a praty ? Minist . No. Schol. For what reasons ? Min. First , because let the party be what he can , howsoeuer hard harted or sinfull ; vntill he be called , hee is but dead , and in the state of nature , like vnto others of the Saints , Peter , Paul , Dauid , &c. And therefore since all of vs were dead in sinnes and trespasses Beares , Lyons , Wolus , Leopards , before we were tamed , haters of God , despitefull , proud , disobedient to parents , without naturall affection , vnmercifull by nature , and yet haue bin raised from the dead ; so may such a one be in Gods owne time . 2. Because as when a King doth imprison any one for some offences . As it were folly for any man to presume to say : The king will neuer free such a one , nor he shall neuer bee sorry for his faults . Much more so , were it a fit of extreame madnesse , in such a hard-hearted party ; to presume to know Gods counsell ; or what in time he will work in the heart , loosing the fetters wherewith hee is bound . Since it is the Lords promise and couenant , to take away our stony hearts and giue vs fleshy ones : as also the end of Christs comming , to open the eyes of the blind to bring out prisoners from the prison : and them that sit in darknes out of the prison house . 3. Because God hath neither appointed any certaine manner or time of calling , some being brought home , at the 6.9.11 . houre : therefore though one haue not in effectuall calling obtained a soft heart , at 20.30.40 . or 50. yeeres of age , he may not thence conclude reprobation . 4. None but God knowes things to come , seeing hee challenges this super excellencie , as a proofe ; proper onely to the Deitie . 5. There is a kind of softnes in that heart , which knowes and feeles the hardnesse of the same , though the party deny it , yet sure corruption discouers not corruption : nor nature , nature , and therefore hope remaines . 6. Because , where there is discontent , trouble in minde , there is hope by Gods grace , repentance may come : in which estate ( though the party plead contentation ) yet when we see former delights vanish , sometimes beloued company displeasing , temptations to appeare , vnnaturall wishes , vnreasonable mad desires in them : Who will not confesse that heere is muddy water ; which ( when the stormes are past ) may cleare againe ? 7. The omnipotency and goodnes of God , to other most miserable sinners , in pulling them spite of their hearts from their sins , without any cause in them : as Manasses , Nebuchadnezzar , Saint Paul , Marie Magdalen . &c. May giue hope of recouerie , since many others in the like estate haue found Gods mercies exceeding great in their conuersion . Lastly , most certaine it is , we must not beleeue or giue credit to any who so affirme : for , distempered men are not able to iudge of diseases : no more can the distressed minde of the estate of the soule , especially ioyned with a blacke diuellish melancholly humour , which the diuell doth oftentimes abuse , to breede causelesse feares in the heart of man. Schol. Were it possible to perswade any in such an estate , that they are tempted ? Minister . It is impossible ; while the violence of the tentation remaineth . Schol. Wherefore ? Minst . Because of the strength of tentation and carnall reason , which for that present hath dominion in them : for then the field is neere wonne , when the diuell is of the party discouered for a diuell , the temptation being layd open to reason and iudgement . Schol. Yet shew vnto me I beseech you , how may we iudge when one is thus tempted or not ? Minist . There be many signes ; but to be briefe , three principally ; by their seruice , language , and vnnaturalnesse . Schol. Explaine your meaning . Minist . First , for seruice ; It is most certaine , when they are so ready to obey the diuell in all things , and disobey God : to serue Sathan with pleasure , and God by compulsion , pulled to good duties viollently , as by the haire of the head ; leauing them off quickly ; in that their actions shewe them to be tempted . 2. By their Shiboleth , we may iudge them to be in a strong tentation , when in some certaine fittes some of them dare to affirme , That they know their hearts shal neuer be moued ; that it is impossible that euer they should be soft hearted : that because their hearts in time past could not be moued by any thing , therefore they shall and can neuer be moued . And ( which is more fearefull blasphemie ) that God cannot moue their heart , which for all the world ( free from temptation ) they durst not affirme . 3. By their vnnaturalnesse , Nature doth seeke by all meanes the preseruation of Nature . Nowe when they become so vnnaturall , as to auoide humane societie : to thinke their best friends their foes , to scoffe at Religion , because they haue no hope to disturbe and let by all meanes good duties ; like vnto that Maide who disturbed Paul and Silas as they were about to pray in Lydias house , to seeke out wittie arguments for the diuell against themselues ; to laugh at , and reiect all Gods arguments from his word : bringing nothing against them but carnall , foolish , blinde , reasons from the diuell , to be desperate in aggrauating sinne beyond the mercies of God , to reiect prayer , affirming , it is to no purpose , to request not to be prayed for , &c. If these be not infallible signes of tentation , then neuer creature was tempted . Schol. What if the hardnesse of heart , come after a precedent softnesse ? Minist . Then there is good hope ( yea assurance ) that in Gods good time the heart may bee softer then euer : the party so escaping from vnder this wrath , because the gifts and calling of God are without repentance . Schol. In howe many conditions doe you include men in respect of this wrath ? Minist . In foure . Schol. Which are they ? Minist . First , those who feele deepe wrath , and yet are farre from wrath . 2. Those who haue not the deepe sense of wrath , and yet are farre from wrath . 3. Those who feele no wrath , and yet are vnder the wrath of God. 4. Those who feele the wrath of God , and indeede shall perish in the same wrath . Scholler . Who are those who feele wrath , and yet are farre from the same ? Minister . Those who haue their conscience wakened to see their sinne , and to feele the wrath of God for the same ; which they hate , because it hath offended God. They mourne for sinne likewise , not so much for feare of torments , as that they should haue offended so good a God. They desire for reconciliation , to be at peace with God through Christ . They thirst also for the Spirit , to cause their hearts to loue that God , hungring for the grace of sanctification . And lastly , although they feele nothing to comfort them , yet aboue hope , vnder hope they waite still . Schol. What should the exercise of the soule be , vnder this sort of feeling ? Minist . First , it must haue recourse to God by strong cries in prayer . 2. Practise repentance , by powring out bitter teares vnto God. 3. Exercise faith in resting vppon the promises of life euerlasting through Christ . 4. Cleaue stedfastly to the loue of God in his mercie , grace , and goodnesse . 5. Draw it selfe away from the wrath , as fast as may bee , least it bee deuoured thereof . 6. Feede and meditate continually vpon the promise of life . And lastly , hold euer the eye of the soule vpon Christ . Schol. Who are they who haue not a deepe sense of wrath ; and yet are farre from the wrath of God ? Minist . 1. Those who neuer haue felt wrath , but alwayes peace . 2. Those who haue felt the tentations of despaire and doubting ; yet afterwards haue obtained peace . 3. Such who feele a hardnesse of heart , and can haue no present reliefe . Schol. Who bee they who haue neuer felt wrath but alwayes peace ? Minister . Those whom God at their first conuersion hath called with much sweetnesse , in melting their hearts by little and little for their sinnes . Next , such on whom God hath powred out a sense of his loue , working in them a perswasion of mercy , with ioy , renuing the minde : working a study of holinesse , a hatred of sinne , and a loue of righteousnesse . Schol. Who be they who haue found the tentations of despaire and doubting ; and yet thereafter haue found peace ? Minist . Those whom God hath inlightned to see their sinnes , and the wrath of God for them , and haue bin terrified , doubting of their saluation and election : yet God afterwards shineth vpon their soules , touching them with a sense of remission of sinnes , election and glorie , whereupon ariseth that peace of God which passeth all vnderstanding , and that ioy of the holy Ghost vnspeakeable and glorious . Schol. Who are those who feele the hardnesse of their heart , yet are not able to shake off the same ? Minist . Those who haue once felt that mollifying power of the Spirit , that light which draweth the soule to see it selfe , and it owne wildnesse ; to see also God in the face of Iesus Christ , and yet in the present finde a kind of deadnesse within . Scholler . How may it be knowne that one is not vnder the wrath of God in such a disposition ? Minist . First , such a one must looke backe vnto his former experience remembring the dayes of old , and the yeeres of ancient time : and next againe vnto his present disposition . Schol. What must the present disposition be ? Minister . A sense of hardnesse , deadnesse and blindnesse . A sad heart for the absence of God ; with a longing for his blessed presence . Schol. What must be the exercise of one in this estate ? Minst . A labouring and striuing with the heart to attaine feeling . Schol. Wherein must this strife consist ? Minist . In a wrastling with God , against the hardnesse of the heart , in Prayer and Mourning . Schol. But what if one be neither able to wrastle nor striue ? Minist . Yet must hee speake vnto God , and shew him the disposition of the soule ; intreating him to helpe it for his Christs sake . Schol. What if one be not able to speake for burden and trouble of soule ? Minist . Hee must grone vnto God , hold vp the hands and eyes vnto him , desire to desire ; vse the outward meanes ( though vnwillingly and with torment ) for , when we are not able to vse our feeling , the outward meanes may ease . Schol. What comfort can this afford to any one , since God will be worshipped in Spirit and Trueth , which he in such a case is not able to doe ? Minister . It affoordeth singular consolation : 1. In that wee haue a feeling of our selues , and our great miserie : Next , in that such a disposition is vnpleasing vnto vs. 3. In that we would gladly haue it made better . 4. In that we feele , there is no comfort in heauen or earth for vs , vntill God come . Schol. How should the soule rest in such a hard estate ? Min. 1. Rest in hope . 2. Waite . 3. Say vnto God , Giue mee such a heart as thou desirest Lord , and then require thou of me such a heart , and such a worship as thou desirest . Schol. Wherefore doth the Lord suffer his cildren to haue and feele hardnesse of heart ? Minst . First , that so much the better they may vnderstand how miserable ( by nature ) they are . 2. That they may see where only helpe is to be found . 3. That being humbled , they may not bee lifted vp with spirituall pride . Lastly , that they may much esteeme and cherish the fauour of God , when he commeth in the power of the meanes . Schol. In such extremities , at what times commeth God to the soule ? Minist . Vnlooked for , when we are at the brinke of despaire ; or else when we haue yeelded as ouercome , and almost left desiring : or then when hee giueth an earnest and violent desire , which neither can nor will be satiate vntill he come . Schol. Yet why suffereth the Lord his children ( many times ) to vse all the meanes ; and yet not to finde him in the meanes , before hee come thus vnlooked for ? Minst . That wee may know he onely commeth when hee will , nothing mouing him , but his owne good pleasure . Schol. What should wee learne heereof ? Minist . 1. Not to conclude reprobation , because to our feeling wee find desertion . 2. Not to measure mercy by our present feeling . 3. To waite vntill he come ( though we cannot feele his presence ) if it were vntill the last gaspe . Schol. What if in the meane time there be no other sense but of stinging torments and Wrath ? Minist . Yet must wee make claime vnto his promises . In wrath beseech him to remember mercie ; saying vnto him with Iob : Lord , although thou wouldest slay vs , yet will wee trust in thee : thus waiting vntill hee come , not being hastie , and then in his owne good time , he will appeare to our comfort . Schol. Who be they who feele no wrath : yet remaining vnder the heauie wrath of God ? Minist . First , such as haue no effectuall calling from God : 2. Such as haue neuer had any true sense of the bitternesse and grieuousnesse of sinne . 3. Such as are not mooued with the loue of the trueth , neither doe loue God , or haue had any sense of his loue , or the earnest of the Spirit . Lastly , all such who make a shewe of godlinesse , but haue denied the power thereof . Schol. How diuide you those who are in this estate ? Minist . They are partly out of the Church , and partly in the Church . Schol. Who be they that are out of the Church ? Min. Those who haue not amongst them the profession of the true God , as hee hath reuealed himselfe in his word . Schol. Who be they in the Church , that lye vnder the wrath , yet feele it not ? Minister . First , those who professe without knowledge : 2. Those who haue conscience without knowledge and holinesse . 3. Those who haue attained light , yet fight against their enlightning . Lastly , those who through the custome of sinne , are hardned so , as with greedinesse they runne forward in all outward and inward impieties : God ( for the present ) hauing giuen them ouer to a reprobate sense . Schol. How farre may one proceede in shewe of true profession , and yet be vnder the wrath of God ? Minist . First , hee may haue a litterall knowledge . 2. A temporall and Historicall faith ; yea , and the faith of miracles . 3. He may haue a sorrow for sinne . 4. He may haue a desire of heauen . 5. He may taste of the good word of God , and of the powers of the world to come . Last of all , hee may haue an inward restraining power to curbe sinne with an outward holinesse . Schol. What knowledge is that which a wicked man may haue ? Minist . A knowledge of sinne , of hell , of heauen , of mercie , of wrath , and of Christ , and of his meritorious death , buriall , resurrection , and second comming , with all the points of Religion . Schol. What is the reason that this knowledge keepeth them not from this wrath ? Minister . Because it is not applyed close vnto the heart , to renue the Spirit of the minde , to change the will and affections vnto the loue and obedience of Gods trueth . Schol. What kind of knowledge call you this then ? Minist . A litterall knowledge which puffeth vp , but neither humbleth nor sanctifieth . Scholer . Who hath this knowledge ? Minist . The diuels and reprobates , and such who are not truely called by Gods holy Spirit . Schol. What is the cause that their faith saueth them not ? Minist . Because it is not wrought by the Spirit to apply Christ and all his benefits vnto iustification and sanctification . Schol. What manner of sorrow is this which wicked men may haue ? Minist . A worldly sorrow which causeth death . Scholler . Wherefore is this sorrowe ? Minist . Not for the right cause , but for the terrours of conscience , and the punishment of sinne . Scholler . What kinde of desire is this which wicked men may haue of heauen ? Minist . A naturall desire , but not spirituall . Scholler . Why call you it a naturall desire ? Min. Because wicked men would be in heauen , for their owne ease , that therby they might escape punishment onely . Schol. Wherefore is such a desire naturall ? Minist . Because therein , nature onely seeketh the preseruation of Nature ; and those who wish to be in heauen , onely for their owne ease , to bee freed of paine , doe onely seeke the preseruation of Nature . Schol. What kind of feeling is this which wicked men may haue of the good word of God , and the powers of the world to come ? Minister . Onely fretting motions , wrought by the Maiesty of the word which ouer shadoweth their soules . Schol. What is the cause that this feeling is not the true feeling ? Minist . First , because it is not wrought by the Spirit of adoption , after that speciall manner , whereby he worketh in the elect . Next , because it bringeth no sure perswasion of election and glory . As also because it neither feeleth the loue of God : nor is bound close vnto God by a secret loue . Lastly , because that kind of feeling neither satisfieth nor setleth the soule to repose in peace vpon Christ Iesus . Schol. What call you this restraining power which the wicked may haue to controule sinne ? Minister . A secret generall working of God , repressing the force of nature , but withholding his sanctifying grace and the renuing vertu of his holy Spirit . Schol. What call you this outward holinesse in men wicked and peruerse . Min. An outward conformitie with the law of God , without the inward change of minde , wil , and affection . Schol. Since then wicked men may be vnder the wrath of God , haueing so many properties of christian professors : Shew vnto me , how in this narrow pinch of affinitie , one may rest assured that he is the child of God. Minst . What is the speciall thing wherin you would haue me to resolue you of . Schol. First , I would know how to discerne when our knowledge may be called a sauing knowledge ? Minist . If our knowledge be spirituall , it is sauing . Schol. What doe you meane by that ? Minister . First , we must trie if our mindes bee rightly informed according to the trueth of Gods word . Next , whether our hearts loue that which wee know . Lastly , wee must looke whether wee practise that which we know and loue , mourning because we are not able to obey , and striuing against our rebellion , that wee may obey that light of God which is in our minde : this is spirituall knowledge . Schol. But if a man neither know , loue , nor obey , what can he then say of himselfe , saue this ; that God is greater then his conscience ; and therefore iustly may condemne him ? Min. Yet if there bee a desire to loue and yeeld obedience vnto that which one knowes ; sometimes groning in the Spirit vnto God , sometimes mourning and constantly waiting with a heauy heart , vntill such time as the Lord shall powre forth his renuing grace : all is yet safe . Schol. VVhat warrant haue wee so to doe ? Min. His owne promises . Schol. Shew them I intreate you . Minist . Blessed are they which hunger and thirst for righteousnes , for they shall bee filled ; whosoeuer waiteth on mee shall neuer bee ashamed : I will poure water vpon the dry ground ; and flouds vpon the thirsty ground . Schol. Seeing that the wicked haue a certaine faith which iustifieth not ; what manner of faith is that which bringeth saluation . Minist . That faith which is a iustifying before God. Schol. who worketh this faith . Minist . The holy Spirit . Schol. VVhat thing is that which the soule apprehendeth by faith ? Minist . Iesus Christ , God and man , blessed for euermore , Our Mediator who was humbled vnto the death of the Crosse for our fakes , now sitting at the right hand of God the Father , with all the rich benefits which he hath purchased to be powred out vpon vs in this life , and in the life to come . Schol. How shall wee know whether as yet wee haue so layed sure hould of Christ as to make him our owne . Minist . First , we must marke , if our soules haue perceiued all sufficiencie of grace to bee in him , and the God-head bodily dwelling in him . Next , wee must looke if wee betake our selues onely vnto Christ Iesus , to repose vpon him , looking for righteousnesse and life only in him . Then must wee behould what loue we haue vnto our Redeemer : and try whether or not wee would gladly loue him better then all the pleasures in heauen or earth . Further we must marke if euer our soules , haue found ioy in beleeuing in the death and resurrection of the Lord Iesus . Lastly , looke if our hearts be allured with a louing languor to desire for that sense and feeling we once had of him ; resoluing to obey him if wee were able . Sc. Seeing that you say the wicked haue a sorrow for sinn , how should the Elect know that their sorow is not the sorrow of wicked men ? Minist . The sorrow of the elect is a godly sorrow vnto life . Sch. VVhy call you it a godly sorrow ? Min. Because it is wrought by God himselfe . 2. Because the heart breaketh not so much for shame and paine as for hauing offended so louing & so mercifull a Father , the piercing of so louing a Redemer , and for grieuing of the holy Spirit our Comforter . Schol. VVhat kind of sorrow is the sorrow of Gods children ? Minist . A bitter sorrow mingled with sweetnesse . Sch. Are the children of God euer affected with this griefe when they are sorrowfull ? M. No. Sch. VVhat other disposition then haue Gods children in their sorrow ? Miniis . Bitternesse and a terror . Sch. VVhence proceedeth this fearfull estate to their sense ? Minist . Partly from a feeling of the absence of God , and hardnesse of their hearts , and partly in feeling the stings of a guiltie conscience . Schol. How may one know himselfe to be in a good estate vnder such a disposition ? Minister . First , by his former experience that once hee did feele the sweetnesse of Gods fauour . Next , if in some measure ( how small soeuer ) he desire aboue all things in the earth , the wonted presence of God. Lastly , if he waite and hope aboue hope ; that hee who hath once begunne will neuer repent him , resoluing that though God should slay him , yet he would trust in him . Schol. What may we learne from this sort of disposition ? Minister . First , that by nature wee are separate from God : and God from vs. Next , that all Gods children ( vntill grace make a difference ) are as hard harted as any reprobats . Schol. Seeing the wicked ( you say ) may haue a desire of heauen : what difference is there betwixt the desire of the Elect and Reprobate ? Minist . The desire of the Reprobat , or of those in the state of reprobation before calling , is meerely naturall , such as was Esaws desire of the birth right , and Balaams desire of the death of the righteous : but the desire of the Elect , is spirituall and heauenly . Schol. How may we know when our desires are spirituall ? Min. First , by the acknowledging of that which we chiefly desire . Next of the end wherefore we desire it . Schol. What is that which chiefely we must desire ? Minister . God in Christ to dwell in our soules heere by his Spirit , to sanctifie and quicken vs , to raise vs vp againe in the great day , transforming and making our vile bodies like vnto Christs glorious body , to reigne with him for euer . Schol. For what end should we desire this ? Minist . Euen for God himselfe the end of all . Schol. In desiring heauen , what should we chiefely respect ? Minister . Not so much our owne ease , as that being freed from sinne in holinesse and ioy with vnspeakeable loue ( as a vessell full of glory ) wee may prayse and magnifie God for euermore . Schol. Seeing the reprobate may haue a certaine sort of feeling , how may we discerne , whether our feeling be that sense which is peculiar to the Child of God or not ? Minist . By the Spirit of adoption . Schol. Which be the sure markes and fruits of Adoption in vs ? Min. Perswasion of the loue of God towards vs , of our Election , Redemption , and Glorification : ioy flowing from this feeling , with increase of perswasion , and peace which passeth all vnderstanding . Schol. Yet what if the soule haue no such disposition ? Minist . Yet must wee looke backe vnto what wee haue felt . Next , wee must see what wee desire to feele , and further , what wee hope to feele . Scho. How may one know whether as yet he hath euer had any feeling ? Minist . Hee must looke , if euer , in laying sure holde of Christ , his soule hath beene filled with a spirituall sweetenesse aboue all the pleasures of Nature , which in some measure hath left a seale and stampe of heauen in the soule , that hath thus inabled him to discerne betwixt an absence and a presence of God ; so that hee is alwayes ioyfull , when hee hath any feeling of Gods loue ; by the contrary euer sad , and heauy for his absence . Schol. Yet seeing the wicked may haue an inward restraining vertue to curbe sinne , and an outward conformitie with the law of God , how may it be knowne whether one hath a restrayning vertue onely , or the renuing vertue of the holy Spirit ? Min. This is most easie to discerne . Scho. Explaine your meaning . Minist . The first internall worke of the Spirit , is a sight of sinne which offends the Maiesty of God ; a sight also of God who hath beene offended . Next , a secret sorrow proceeding from a hatred to sinne , with a loue of that glorious offended Maiestie prouoked ; then a true desire to be freed of sinne , with a louing heart , and earnest desire to loue God for himselfe . Further also , a purpose and resolution to consecrate our secret thoughts , will , and affections vnto his holinesse as a liuing sacrifice . A strife also against all the pleasures and occasions of sinne , with an indeauour to keepe our thoughts and affections stedfastly vpon God and his will. Lastly , as the minde naturally strais from God , the will being peruerse , and the affections disordered : if there be then a sting in the conscience bringing true remorse , these be signes of the operation of the true Spirit by his renuing grace . Schol. Seeing the worke of the spirit is a thing sensible , which is felt in his renuing vertues , in the slaughter of sinne , and reformation vnto newnesse of life : what if ( all this while ) one feele nothing but the growth of sinne , hardnesse of heart , and blindnes of minde ? Min. First , he must see if he be able to discerne his sinne , blindnesse and hardnesse of heart . 2. Looke if hee secretly mislike the same . 3. Marke if he would willingly wish it remoued . 4. Consider if he haue desire to vse , or any way wish he might vse the means , though to his feeling he is no way able to vse the same . 5. Looke backe if at any time God formerly did euer giue him grace to beleeue in him : ( for that present ) without any sense or feeling , euen when not being able to pray : in languor , patience and hope hee waited for Gods presence . 6. Consider if after earnest prayer and sorrow for sinne , at any time hee hath found light , ioy , peace , a perswasion of mercy with some softnesse of heart , the power of sinne abated . Lastly , if hee find this continually before his eyes . The good which I would , I doe not , but the euill which I would not , that doe I. Scholler . Declare vnto me then some markes of the renuing Spirit ? Min. A loue of God and his image for his owne cause , being goodnesse and loue it selfe . Then an vnfained hatred of that which offendeth God. Lastly , a misliking of our owne euill heart , with a true thirst and hunger to haue it made better . Sc. Can a Reprobat haue these markes ? Minist . No. Scholler . How so ? Minist . Because they be the markes of Election , and are wrought by the Spirit of Adoption ; which a Reprobate cannot receiue . Schol. Who are they who feele the wrath of God , and shall also perish in the same wrath ? Minist . Those whom God in his iudgement wakens , giuing the conscience ouer to find the deluge of torments : the sting of reprobation ; withdrawing from them his Spirit , either to seeke mercy truly , or to beleeue that there is any mercy for them , so despairing . Schol. When doth the Lord waken such wicked men to feele these horrors of conscience ? Minist . Some sooner , some later , some longer before their death , as Cain ; some againe immediatly before their death , as Iudas . Scho. What kind of sense hath a Reprobate when he is thus wakened ? Minist . Light , feeling , & perswasion . Schol. What light seeth he ? Minist . First , all his sinnes , accusing , conuicting , condemning , and tormenting him . 2. The great God a consuming fire to deuoure him . 3. Eternitie of paine prepared for him , and to be giuen ouer by the iudge to be tormented for euer , with the diuell and his Angels . Schol. What feeleth the Reprobate being thus wakened ? Minister . First , that sinne is bitter . 2. That there is an euerlasting wrath prepared for impenitent sinners . 3. That the conscience ( howsoeuer for a while asleepe in hardnesse of heart ) is capable of wrath . 4. That it is a fearefull thing to fall into the hands of the liuing God. And lastly , that hell-torments doe take away all peace and comforts , bringing nothing but sorrow and vnquietnes , yea , that a little looke of hell for one euill thought , is more fearefull and terrible then all the torments in the earth . Schol. Whereof is the Reprobate perswaded when he is thus wakened ? Minister . First , that God neuer elected him , nor yet Iesus Christ hath redeemed him , and that hee was neuer renued by the Spirit of grace . 2. That hee shall neuer haue comfort in heauen or earth . 3. That there is an euerlasting wrath prepared for him , and that hee shall neuer come foorth of that prison and torment . Lastly , that GOD and his creatures , visiible and inuisible , Elect and Reprobate , shall all bee his enemies , helping to aggrauate his torments . Schol. What be the degrees , by which a Reprobate is brought vnto this torment ? Minist . First , Prophanenesse . 2. Impenitencie . 3. Infidelity . 4. Senselesnesse and dead security . 5. A wakening by a sensible wrath . Lastly , a reiection of him into euerlasting torments . Scholler . What difference is there betwixt the Elect and the Reprobate , in the sense and feeling of the wrath of GOD ? Minister . First , the Reprobate hee feeleth and fretteth , at the same ; Next , his torment paineth him so , that hee would gladly bee rid of the paine , but neuer truely repenteth him of the sinne . 3. The waight of his torment ( proceeding from a guilty conscience , and the sight of God the Iudge ) maketh him to despaire , cast off mercy , turne his backe vpon God , and his free promises in Christ Iesus ; so plunging himselfe ( without recouerie ) in the wrath of God. Schol. How doth the childe of God behaue himselfe in the feeling of the wrath of God ? Min. Being wakened out of the dead sleepe of sinfull security ; First , torment maketh him to lament , and sorrowe that hee should haue prouoked his GOD , thus to deale with him . Next , he thirsteth for reconciliation with God through Iesus Christ . Further , he draweth neere , laying sure hold vpon the promises of the word of GOD , desiring to feele them by experience . Yea , more ; hee seeth no saluation for him out of Christ crucified , and therefore renounceth himselfe and all that is in him , cleauing onely to Gods free mercie and loue in the Lord Iesus . Lastly , hee giueth not ouer , but constantly waiteth , hanging still on Gods free loue , and the trueth of his promises reuealed in his word . Schol. Yet shew vnto me further , how neere the childe of God may come vnto the wicked in the sense and feeling of the wrath of God. Minister . First , Gods childe will feele all his impediments standing vp betwixt God and him . 2. He may haue no kind of feeling , either of the loue of God , or of his mercie , election , redemption , or of the Spirit of sanctification . 3. Gods childe will feele for his sinnes ( in Gods absence ) in his conscience , burning wrath , vnquietnesse and torment . 4. When hee thinketh of God , hee may be troubled : Eternitie will dash him , the conscience of him also ( at that time ) may beare such witnesse against him , that altogether hee may doubt of his saluation , easily then hee may be perswaded to despaire : and if at such a time it were giuen vnto the sense of his owne conscience to iudge , hee would willingly subscribe his owne condemnation . Scholler . Declare then , what is that manner of working , by which God vseth to heale a soule being thus diseased ? Minist . Hee hath a secret working for that present vnfelt by the Patient , yet afterwards fully reuealed . Scholler . But , in such a narrow pinch , howe may wee iudge of that secret working ? Minister . First , by that griefe wee haue for grieuing of our God. 2. By that desire wee haue to bee reconciled with God ( for still the more grieuous that the torment is , so much the greater will desire of reconciliation bee , and the hatred to sinne : ) 3. By that hope wee haue aboue hope , against our feeling , looking vnto Gods free promises , with assurance that hee will come , with this resolution , that though hee delayed his comming vntill our last breath yet for all this , that wee would waite for him . Schol. When Gods children cannot feele , should they measure their estate according to their feeling , beleeuing that God so accounteth of them , as for the present their conscience witnesseth ? Minist . No. Schol. Why so ? Minister . Because none may measure the fauour of God by their present tentations : seeing , feeling is a false Iudge ? Scholler . Yet when one hauing sufficient knowledge , walketh in all the means so much as may be , and can for all this haue no assurance or feeling of remission of sinnes : is not this lamentable ? Minister . It may bee so for a while , but it is with such , as with those who haue a bad stomacke : who though they cannot make vse of their prouisions of knowledge for the present , yet when their appetites returne , they find better vse of it then euer before . Schol. God ( we know ) promiseth to giue those who delight in him their hearts desire . Yet we see , they haue it not alwaies in spirituall things , as true ioy ; feeling assurance of his loue . &c. How doth he then fulfill his promise ? Minister . It is most certaine , the breach is alwayes on our part ; for such looke aside on other worldly matters , and not directly vppon GOD , making him their sole delight , suffering their corruptions beare sway : and then it is iust with God , to take away for a time their feeling ; for hee seeth , if such had not sometimes a dead heart , they would haue a proud heart ( which is worst of all ) therefore hee leaueth them for a time . Schol. But they gladly would be freed from both . Minist . Our hearts yet are so deceitfull , that God sees we could not escape the latter , but by vndergoing the former . Schol. What then should such thinke of themselues ; who for some yeeres together , find lesse feeling in prayer , ioy in all good duties . &c. Then in the former times , although they vse the meanes ? Minister . Such thinke too hardly of themselues , oftentimes without cause razing the ground-worke of their Election : And calling all the pledges of Gods former fauours into question : which indeede they should not doe , but rather gather so many more as they can . For , though they thinke that they had better feelings at their first conuersion , yet it is not so : ( if for the present they stick close vnto all Gods meanes ) for their first feelings were in a great part , rather suddaine passions then grounded comforts : but after they come to haue any true conflicts with their soules , the mud of the flesh is more purged away , and all things are more sound then at the first . Scholler . Yet you know it is written , that the righteous in their olde age shall be fat and flourishing , bringing forth fruit : what shall some say then , or thinke of themselues , when they find a decay in their memories , &c. Deadnesse in their affections ? &c. Though they may not call their election in question ; may they not feare some strange iudgement ? Min. No surely : for ( perhaps ) then they may flourish most of all in humility , holinesse , patience , experience , and such like graces , when they want those stirring and hote affections . Neither ought we to looke for such strength of memory and liuely operatiue actions of grace , in age , in sicknesse , in great sorrowes and tentations ; as at other times in yong yeeres free from such assaults . Neuerthelesse , in such times God giues graces most fit for those times ; as in age , grauity , ability to giue good counsell , to speake from experience , &c. So that though the aged Christians haue not alwayes most life and feeling , and stirring grace : yet are they better seasoned then young souldiers : ( as the Prophet speaketh . ) Giue thy strength vnto day seruant : so haue they a great deale more of Gods strength to walke with : yea , the greatest measure thereof at their most neede : which if wee should attaine vnto too soone , it would make vs proud and secure to say with the rich man , Soule take thy rest , thou hast enough for many yeeres . And therefore as Hounds doe hunt best when they followe the sent , not the sight ( for then they runne a madding , ready like to breake their neckes , ) so aged Christians , though they follow by faith , and haue lesse feeling in sense , yet doe they goe on more strongly to heauen , then such who runne all vpon their sense . Schol. How commeth it then to passe that Gods children are so addicted vnto feeling ? so mourning when they haue lost the same ? yea , so troubled , that they imagine all is gone for euer ? Minister . Iust as a pricke of a pin , or some other distemper in one part of the body , doth so vexe vs , that wee for the present are so grieued with the same , that wee forget that strength and health which is in the rest of the body : so the feeling and sense of Gods loue , being for a while lost , doth so dampe with the sorrowe thereof all other graces in the soule , that for the present wee can discerne none , and so imagine all to bee lost for euer . Schol. What maketh Gods children so to relye vpon feeling ? Minister . Certainly ( as I thinke ) because they remember not that it is written , we walke by faith and not by sight : and so their faith being weake , by reason they are not well clothed with their spirituall armour , hauing forgot their consolation , no maruaile they stagger and reele to and fro , hauing lost the touch of that hand which had wont to guide them . So that I say , it must bee want of faith ; the strength whereof appeareth most in the least measure of feeling . Schol. Wherefore then doth God giue vnto his children , such a measure of feeling at their first conuersion , yet afterwards withdraweth the same ? Minist . Euen as we see we may lead a little child when he is young whither we will , with apples and such like toyes : so are wee ( being babes in Christ ) led by feeling at our first conuersion ; then we are altogether for rewards : at which time if GOD made vs not better offers then the world , we would forsake him , and cleaue vnto the same . But ( with the woman of Canaan ) to hold out in repulses , without feeling to gather strong arguments to mooue GOD , againe and againe , argues a strong Faith. Againe , Christians haue ordinarily more feeling at first , because then euery thing is new vnto them , receiuing more from God then they looked for . Neither are our prayers then so much vnderpropt with arguments as with feelings , then we come with simple sutes , thinking God loues me , and therefore hee will heare me . ( As little children vse to come to their Parents : they bring no forcible reasons ; but I pray you Father . &c. Giue me such a thing ; neither doe their Parents expect any , but are well content ( yea glad ) to heare them aske at first . But when processe of time makes those feelings ( by vse ) not to seeme so new , and so not so sensible : God hiding his face ; and feeling decaying ; then doe they beginne to lay about them with their knowledge , to labour for strong reasons in their prayers , to seeke how to mooue God best : by his nature , promises , and former mercies . And then indeede ( whatsoeuer wee thinke ) is the best growth in faith and al goodnes , which after the storme is past , Gods children can see and reioyce at , yea , and liue vpon the store a good while after , hauing those prayers which they made in their deepest anguish , as the best pillars of their assurance of Gods loue . Schol. Why doth God for the most part so long delay to giue comfort and feeling vnto his children ? Minister . Not like vnto some Physicians and Surgeons , who with needlesse delayes put their Patients to extraordinarie paines : but for their good , to make them spend prayers , whereby they are alway gayners : the paines whereof is but the crossing of the flesh , which the more it is tamed , the better it is for them . Schol. What then should one doe when hee hath long attended without any comfort or feeling ? Mini. When the soule would most willingly despaire ( because of the sense of sinne , terrour of conscience , and Gods absence ) then beleeue most , lay surer hold then euer vpon the promises of the mercy of God in Christ . Schol. How can one say that he beleeueth , not finding in him the fruits of Faith , which are prayer , comfort , peace , and holinesse . Minister . Faith and lacke of feeling may well stand together ; yea , and great doubting : and hee who beleeueth most , and feeleth least , is hee who glorifieth God most : for , when we feele , wee possesse ( as it were ) a beginning of that which shall be in heauen : we liue now by faith and hope , not by sight and feeling . Schol. But how should the conscience in the meane time rest , since feeling is no competent Iudge ? Mini. Build vpon that rocke , against which the gates of hell cannot preuaile . Schol. What is that ? Minist . To sticke close vnto Christ , and vnto the vertue of his death and resurrection , remembring the iustifying blood of Christ , the satisfying blood of Christ , the meritorious blood of Christ ; the comfortable resurrection of Christ Iesus : And that hee came not to call the righteous but the sinners vnto repentance ; that he came for the sicke and not for the whole ; that he biddeth all laden and weary sinners come vnto him ; yea and all such who are a thirst , to come vnto the waters and drinke freely : assuring them that though their sinnes were red as scarlet , yet that hee will make them white as the Snow : as also he himselfe hath sworne , that as he liueth , hee desires not the death of a sinner ; but rather that hee should turne from his wickednesse and liue : promising , that he will neither breake the bruised reed , nor quench the smoking flaxe , but will bind vp that which is broken , with the comforts of his Spirit ; will make whole that which is wounded , with the plaister of his precious blood ; and bring home the lost sheepe , reioycing also at the returne of the forlorne sonne . His loue also couers both the multitude of sinnes , and the sinner , with his owne shining righteousnesse ; he also quickneth and raiseth vp the dead soule that is stinking in the graue of sinne . And ( to be short ) he saith ; He who beleeueth shall neuer be ashamed , but shall be raised in that great day , with a glorious body , like vnto the most beautifull body of Christ Iesus , and shall neuer be condemned , but haue euerlasting life . This is the rocke I spake of , and on this rocke must the soule anchor , when it is tossed betwixt the strong winds and deepe waues of sinne and euerlasting wrath . For blessed is he who beleeueth , though he neuer saw Iesus with his eyes . Yea suppose one neuer had any feeling of him , still waiting in hope and languor , and resting vpon the loue and mercy of Christ Iesus reuealed in the word ; this is a sure ground to rely vpon ; that as God is trueth it selfe , so he will most certainly performe all his promises in his owne good time : being both mercifull and powerfull to performe whatsoeuer he promiseth . Scholler . Yet , why may not one , who doubteth of his Election , reply ? It is certaine , God is mercifull , true ; and powerfull , but what is that vnto me , seeing that I cannot perceiue in particular , that hee hath made a promise vnto me ? Minist . First , I would haue such a party to assure himselfe , that this is but a iugling deluding Sophistrie of the diuell , to make any to prie into the decree of God , to see whether his name be written there or not , before he vse the meanes : for then this followeth , that because I cannot see Gods decree , therefore I will vse no meanes , all are in vaine : which temptation , if the Deuill can once settle , keeping such parties from the meanes , then he knoweth they be sure his owne . Next , I would wish them to remember , that the Lord is so aboundantly mercifull in making of his promises , that hee excludeth no sorts of persons , neither Iewe nor Grecian , bonde , or free , high nor low , rich or poore , but the righteousnesse of God through Iesus Christ is in all and vpon all who beleeue : That there is no exception of persons , for all haue sinned , and are depriued of the glory of God , and are iustified freely by his grace , through the redemption made in Christ Iesus ; yea , that Christ Iesus came into the world to saue sinners , whosoeuer they bee , excluding no sort , nor degree , from laying holde on life , much lesse any particular person . Rather ( then ) must one gather the quite contrary arguments against the Deuill and carnall reason : And thus returne their arguments : All Gods children ( for the most part ) who in former times haue beene called and enlightned ( when they were dead in sinnes and trespasses ) at their departure from Sodom , were not so curious as at first to prie into Gods decree , to knowe whether their names were written in the booke of life ; before they would vse the meanes : but they reiecting sense and carnall reason , did by degrees vse the meanes to their power ; and so by the constant vse of the same , and Gods blessing therewith , by little and little at length , found their eyes opened , their hearts softned , the whole man in part sanctified ; so attaining vnto the knowledge of his decree : therefore I will also vse the meanes ( rather obeying God then the diuell ) which though by and by they proue not effectually , yet I will waite Gods good time , & who knoweth but at length I may speed as well as others ? And so againe , though I find not my name in the free Couenant of mercy , yet since it excludeth none by name , I will hope still , though I bee most sinfull ; yet Christ , he came into the world to saue sinners , he iustifieth all those who beleeue in him , how miserable soeuer they be , yet his righteousnes apprehended couers all their infirmities . But so it is , I am a vile sinner , laden and burdened with iniquities . Therefore I will beleeue , and my Lord will iustifie me ; and I will draw neere vnto God , and he will ease me ; I will apprehend and cleaue close vnto his righteousnesse , how vile and naked soeuer I be of my selfe : and thus I shall escape in the middest of all tempests . For God ( if I be penitent ) is more powerfull to foregiue and heale my rebellions , then I am able to prouoke his anger . Now the ground of this consolation is the reuealed trueth of God , which is as sure as if we did see him in an extraordinary manner , both feeling and hearing him speake vnto the heart and eare , or rauishing vs in visions , as he did to Adam , Abraham , Isaack , Iaacob , Moses , the Prophets and Apostles , or as vnto Paul out of heauen : for heauen and earth shall passe away , before any title of his word shall fall vnto the ground . And hee who resteth vpon this word , out and beyond his feeling , he resteth vpon the arme of God ; and as God is true , shall vndoubtedly find deliuerance : but he who measures the promises of God by his feeling , and thinkes that hee beleeueth not but when he feeleth , he sinneth grieuously ; for hee compareth all vndoubted veritie grounded vpon God ( which shall be performed in Gods good time , as certainly as God is truth it selfe ) with an vncertaine and vanishing feeling , which may faile vs , but the promises of God cannot . Hee therefore who measureth his faith by his feeling , deceiueth himselfe ; because , neither is it permanent , neither haue we any warrant of the measure , time , or continuance thereof : seeing the Lord commeth when hee will , and as he will , as he seeth to be most for his glory and our good , euen in our most need . And as for the chiefe grounds of faith , there is no neede to goe vp vnto heauen to seeke for them , neither to digge downe vnto hell to find them out : for ( as Moses speaketh ) the word of truth is neere into vs , our eyes see it continually , our hands handle it , our eyes see it , our eares haue the same read and preached vnto vs. And hee that beleeueth in his heart ( as the Scripture speaketh ) that Iesus Christ is dead and risen againe , confessing him also with his mouth , shall be saued . Schol. What maner of working is that which the Lord worketh with the soule , when he reuealeth himselfe vnto it ? Mini. First , he remoueth darknesse , terror , and that which presseth downe , and doubting . Next , hee powreth forth vpon the soule . 1. A sensible light 2. A perswading light . 3. A comfortable light . Schol. Explaine your meaning in so saying . Minister . I meane this , that when God worketh with the soule , hee will powre out the light of his Spirit vpon the same , shewing clearely vnto the party , that he loueth him , and through loue hath chosen , redeemed , and in heauen will crowne him . This light bringeth ioy vnspeakeable and glorious . This light bringeth that peace of God , which passeth all vnderstanding : And during this light wee feele that which the eye neuer saw , the eare heard , neither can enter into the heart of man to thinke of . Schol. How should we trie in such an experience , whether that light we feele be the true light or not ? Minister . First , we must trie how the soule was disposed before that light came . Next , try what sort of feeling we haue in that light . Lastly , wee must marke what stampe it leaueth in the heart , and how we are disposed after feeling . Schol. What maner of disposition should be in the soule before that light came ? Minist . A darkenesse , deadnes , and senslesnes , with torment , at sometimes , doubting and terror : a sensible absence of the power of the holy Ghost , either to comfort or sanctifie . Schol. Doth euery man feele this estate ? Minist . No. Schol. Who then are they who feele this miserable estate of the soule ? Minist . None in a manner but the children of God. Schol. How may one know when the sight of his miserie is wrought by the Spirit of God ? Minist . Because it is an effect of his working . Schol. Shew me that . Mini. It is a light which must shew vnto vs our darkenesse , and it is a presence which maketh vs to feele and see an absence . Scholler . Yet goe on , perswade me I intreat a you more fully thereof . Minist . Looke then first into the experience of the Saints of God. Saint Paul saw not himselfe , vntill God called him , yea he thought himselfe without reproofe . Next , let any one who is called looked vnto his owne experience ; and he shall see there was a time when he had no feeling of that miserable estate . Now when wee shall find a change , nature cannot be the worker therof : for Nature hath not that light to discouer vnto vs our misery : we are dead in sinne by nature , and blinde also : howe is it then possible for a dead man to see or feele ? so that it must needs be a light , surpassing a naturall light , which sheweth vnto vs our miserie . Againe , if it were onely nature which discouereth vnto vs our misery ( seeing Nature retaineth still her owne naturall operations ) what is the cause that there was a time when wee did neither see our selues nor our misery ? for if the sight of our miserie were naturall ; wee euer would haue seene the same . So because it is of Grace , blind Nature could neuer shewe the same : therefore the sight of our misery is by the speciall working of the holy Spirit . Scholller . But Cain and diners other wicked men did feele their owne miserie : howe may wee discerne betwixt their sight and that of Gods children ? Minister . The sight which wicked men haue of themselues , and their miserie , it commeth after some euill deede done , being guilty and thus conuicted of the crime by their naturall conscience . Next , they see the punishment and only therefore tremble . Further , their feare is for the punishment onely , as Cains was : as also they feele not with any continuance the miserable state of their soule to striue against it , to subdue it vnto true remorse : neither can they see the wickednesse of their heart , or truly desire to haue it renewed or brought vnder a heauenly sense of Gods loue and fauour . Scho. Shew vnto me also , how seeth the child of God his miserable heart ? Minister . The chiefe thing the child of God lookes into , is the heart . Next , he feeleth the euill disposition thereof . Further , he is grieued with the sense of the same . Then he thirsteth to haue it made better , rather then to obtaine the whole world , and all the pleasures thereof . There will also be still a strife ( at the least ) in his desire and will. Lastly , at sometimes Gods child will feele his heart made better then vsuall ; that is , hee will feele the hardnesse , blindnesse , vnquietnesse thereof somewhat abated : and light , softnesse , and peace , in place thereof . So that , when the presence of God is in the heart . Gods childe feeleth it ; when it is remooued , he discerneth it . For the truely wicked feele not a hard heart , neither know they what a soft heart meaneth . It is therfore onely peculiar to the Childe of God , to bee able to discerne rightly of his owne misery and Gods mercy . Schol. But what if one doe still feele nothing but hardnes of heart and blindnesse of minde : as yet not being able to perceiue a change ? Minister . First , he must trie whether that sense of hardnes he feeles be the worke of God , seeing there was a time , when hee had not this sense : Next , marke if hee bee pleased with that estate , or rather gladly would haue it made better ( if possibly it might bee ) though it were but like vnto smoaking flaxe : Remembring that promise ; Blessed are they who hunger and thirst for righteousnes , for they shall be filled . Further , hee must warily marke , whether at any time he is able ( how weakely soeuer ) to speake , intreat , and pray vnto God , for mercy to haue the heart softened , &c. None can make vs to pray in any measure , saue the Spirit : yea although there be but a sigh vnto God , it is surely wrought by the Spirit . Then see , if after prayer , or in prayer , hee hath euer obtained any ease or rest . Lastly though he obtaine no ease , yet let him looke if hee would gladly haue a soft heart in some measure ( howsoeuer weakely relying vpon the word ) hoping that God in his owne good time will come ; therefore waiting in patience . Schol. What learne we hence ? Minist . First , that the sight of our selues commeth not of our selues , but of God. 2. That we are in a blessed and happy estate , when we haue a sense and feeling of our miserie , being displeased therewith , and desiring from our heart to haue it remooued . 3. That in such an estate , wee are those with whom GOD is now a working , if wee be able to discerne betwixt a soft and a hard heart : betwixt the light of the Spirit and the darknesse of nature . 4. That when wee obtaine but some piece of desire , and sometimes some little grace to pray , with a little hope , reposing vpon the word of God , that albeit to our feeling God is not neere vnto vs , yet that in his owne good time hee will come againe : so that as truely as I feele an absence , desiring his presence , hee will as surely satisfie our desires , letting vs feele his blessed presence . Lastly , though wee bee but as bruised reedes and smoking flaxe , hauing nothing to boast of either of holines or feeling , as the least of all Saints ; yet that God will neither breake off our longing , nor quench out desire . And so that finally we are in the state of grace , notwithstanding all hellish tentations . Scholler . How should wee trie whether that be the true light or not , which in the time of feeling is felt ? Minister . If wee marke in the time of feeling , wherewith the soule is filled . Schol. What then filleth the soule ? Minister . An vnspeakable power which transformeth the minde , with a sensible presence of that great light , making the soule to exult and rise vp in ioy , rest in peace , and triumph in perswasion . Schol. Whereof is the soule thus perswaded ? Minister . Of the loue of God vnto vs in Iesus Christ , in our election and redemption ; that he hath loued and giuen himselfe for vs : so that by him being saued from condemnation , we shal be crowned with him in glory for euermore . Schol. Who worketh this perswasion ? Minist . The Spirit of God , which searcheth the deepe things of God. Schol. Haue not Gods children that sense at all times of this perswasion ? Mini. No. Schol. When is it felt then ? Minist . At sometimes onely , or when it pleaseth him to reueale himselfe , for his owne glory and our comfort , according to his owne good will. Schol. Haue not all the children God a like measure of feeling ? Minist . No. Scholler . What if all ones life time he neuer haue felt any such sense as you speake off ; may bee therefore conclude that hee is one of those , in whom the holy Spirit dwelleth not ? Minister . That followeth not that hee should reason thus : I feele not , nor euer felt the ioyes of the Spirit , therefore hee is not within mee ; and I shall neuer feele the same . This is a false conclusion . The holy Spirit may be in one ( as it was in a whole Church ) euen then when hee feeleth handnesse of heart , terrours , and doubting . Was not the Spirit of GOD in those Saints , who doe complaine , and demaund of GOD thus . O Lord , why hast thou made vs to erre from thy wayes , and hardened our heart from thy feare ? Was not the holy Spirit also in the Prophet Dauid : who suffered the terrours of God from his youth , with doubting of his life ? Schol. Yet declare what that stay is , which should vphold one in such a tentation ? Minist . First , to looke vnto God , next vnto our owne heart . Schol. What is to be considered , concerning Gods part ? Minist . First , that all things ( as the Scripture speaketh ) worke togegether for the best , vnto those who loue God : Next , that GOD commeth when he will , chiefely in our most neede . 3. That God hath all the haires of our head numbred , so as nothing commeth to passe , without his gracious prouidence : and thus must we assure our selues , that it is his blessed will to hide himselfe from vs for a little . 4. Wee must remember , that GOD is mercie and wisedome it selfe ; and that mercie moueth his Maiestie to giue his presence : but wisedome directeth that presence , as hee thinketh most expedient to his glory and thy good . So that he is but foolish , who fretteth in impatiency , because God commeth not vnto him at his pleasure , seeing hee ( who is wisedome it selfe ) knoweth best his owne time . Lastly , we must remember , that Gods will in thus leauing vs , is to try whether without feeling we can in faith beleeue his promises , resting and waiting patiently vpon him in humility vntill he come . Schol. What should bee considered concerning our owne heart ? Minister . First , to marke if we find a want of Gods presence , discerning an absence . 2. We must marke whether this absence doe grieue vs. 3. Marke whether wee hunger and thirst for his presence . 4. Wee must be sure that either we vse the meanes of the word and prayer , or at least , haue a desire to the same ; suffering others to doe for vs , that we are not able to doe . Last of all , we must trie whether we haue resolued to waite in hope , resting vpon his promises in patience , with a constant desire vntill he come . Schol. But seeing the Saints of God haue not still a like measure of feeling , shew ( as neere as you are able ) what is the greatest measure of feeling they find in this life , and the least measure they attaine vnto . Minister . The greatest measure is , when one is rauished with an vnspeakeable presence of God , so that the senses of the body are not felt , but ouercome with that fulnesse , which then the soule receiueth , as Paul was rauished : or by an extasie of reuelation and visions , as befell vnto Peter and the Prophets : or when the presence of God is felt in the word , either read or preached , or in prayer , that it filleth the soule with an vnspeakable ioy , and a wonderfull peace of conscience , which none can vnderstand , but hee who feeleth the same . Againe , the least measure which the Saints feele , is either vnder terrour , or in the times of peace . Schol. What is the least sense which the soule attaineth to vnder terrour ? Minister . The estate of the party must be considered , if he hath beene effectually called or not . Schol. What is the disposition of the child of God vnder terrour , who hath neuer beene called , but for the present is a Patient in the act of calling ? Minist . Bitternesse , doubting , terrour in the feeling of sinne & wrath ; yet there is a kinde of weake desire , with a hope ( although weake ) raised by the holy Spirit to wait for better . Scholler . In such an estate how is the soule supported ? Minist . By a secret and powerfull presence of God , although for the present it be not felt . Schol. What is that which maintaineth this presence ? Minist . Grace to seeke grace , grace to languish for grace , and grace to waite in hope vntill God come . Schol. If the child of God haue beene called , and haue tasted how gracious the Lord is ; what is his disposition vnder terrour ? Minist . He is possessed either with a blinde terrour , or with a terrour proceeding of guiltinesse . Schol. What doe you call a blind terrour ? Minist . When one is smitten with a confused feare , not knowing the cause , nor wherefore . Schol. What is the disposition of the child of God , in such an estate ? Minist . The soule is stupified , dashed , and amazed ; almost deuoured and swallowed vp with the feare . Next , there remaineth a certaine memorie of the presence of GOD once felt . Lastly , the soule is secretly supported by the Spirit of God to waite ; so that for all this it despaireth not finally . Schol. But what if the feare proceed of guiltinesse ? Minist . First , God giueth grace to pray for remission of sinnes . 2. Hee melteth the heart for offending of him . 3. When we cannot sorrowe with teares , there will be languishing sighes . 4. The remembrance of by-past experience , yeeldeth some comfort . Lastly , ( though at some times scarce there be any hope felt ) yet the soule will waite for comfort . Schol. Shew then , what is the least measure of feeling , which the childe of God hath in the times of his peace . Minist . A sense of the hardnesse of his heart , which hee cannot possibly get softened : a sense of impenitencie , infidelity , blindnesse of minde , deadnesse of Spirit ; an inhabillity to striue against the heart , and the euill disposition thereof , with any spirituall battell ; onely there may remaine some weake desire of a better disposition : a small kinde of discontentment , with the present estate of the soule : with nowe and then some heauy faint stollen sighes , looking vp vnto GOD for some helpe . Sch. What is the cause that God will haue his Saints to feele such terrors and stings of conscience ? Minist . First , that they may know that sinne is bitter and fearefull . 2. That they may vnderstand that God is angry against all sinne , and hath treasures of euerlasting wrath , ready to bee powred out vpon impenitent sinners . 3. That thereby the Saints may learne to hate and detest sinne so much the more . 4. That they may resolue to followe after holinesse , striuing to eschew the garment spotted with the flesh . 5. That so much the more deerely they may loue Christ Iesus , who hath washed and redeemed them from their sins , and that most terrible wrath which burneth for euermore . Scholler . What is the cause that God will haue his Saints to feele hardnesse of heart , and the miserable estate of their soules ? Minister . First , to make them vnderstand , howe barren , dead , filthy Lepers they are by Nature , through the corruption of sinne . 2. That in this feeling of themselues they may be humbled , and truely acknowledge their miserie in shaming and condemning themselues ; that God in such a sensible confession may be glorified . 3 To make them the more gladly and ioyfully long for the comming of Christ . 4. That when they doe feele , they may learne to discerne how precious a heauenly presence is : so euer thereafter , so much the more carefull to entertaine the same , and more thankfull for all manner of comforts . 5. That the Saints may knowe and vnderstand , that albeit they finde sometimes GOD working within them , as indeede they doe : yet that the strength of corruption is so great , that it quencheth these sweete and holy feelings ; as also that wee may know our weakenesse and infirmities to bee such , ●●ilest wee walke in this Tabernacle of clay , that wee are not able to retaine a constant spirituall presence . Last of all , that we may afterwards pitty and be so much the more merciful vnto others in the like estate . Scholler . What may we learne heereof ? Min. First , that one sense and feeling is not enough , but God in mercie must multiply feeling after feeling , and grace after grace . Next , that wee should long to bee freed of this body of sinne and death , to bee cloathed with our heauenly husband in glory : there immediatly to see the face of God , there to feele an euerlasting presence without any absence . Scho. Is it possible , that God can be in the heart , when we feele the hardnesse of our hearts ? Min. It may be so . Scho. How may that be knowne ? Minist . First , by the feeling of the euill : 2. By the extreame sorrowe , heauinesse , and discontentment for that euill disposition . 3. By that remaining desire , to haue the soule truely touched with a sensible presence of Gods holy Spirit : with a desire to striue , when we are not able to striue . Schol. What manner of stampe leaueth this light in the heart ( being nowe departed ) in the time of hardnesse of heart ? Minist . First , it confirmeth and setleth the soule to rest vpon that God whose presence was once felt . Next , it maketh the soule still bolde to draw neere vnto God. Further , the memorie of that former presence , bringeth comfort in tentation , because wee haue felt such light , as hath sanctified and renewed the minde , will , and affections . Againe , it maketh a man meruailous humble , to hate sinne , to loue holinesse and righteousnesse ; to make choice of God , to bee his sole pleasure and delight , as possibly he may : to loath this present life , and the pleasures thereof : to long to bee dissolued to bee with Christ : To walke as a stranger in this world : to haue his conuersation in heauen , by faith and hope , as the heire and Sonne of God. The remaining stampe of this light also , maketh the childe of God reioyce when he seeeth God honored ; and contrarily , exceeding sorrowfull , when he seeth him dishonored . Scholler . What is the cause that this small remaining light hath or can haue such a stampe and effectuall working ? Minister . Because this light once shining in the soule , draweth it so neere vnto God , and God vnto it , letting it see and feele clearely in that light , that it is beloued of God : which when the soule once by a strong apprehension feeleth , it answereth God with a sweete loue againe : so that this sense of the loue of GOD once shed abroad in the heart , perswading , comforting , and sanctifying the same , acquainteth the soule with God : so that neither can he forsake the same , or it finally forsake him : remaining alwayes sad ( at least ) when he is grieued : ioyful when he is glorified , either in mercy or iustice . Schol. Is it possible for the childe of God to fall into such hainous presumptuous sinnes , as wicked sinners doe ? Minist . It is possible . Schol. What is the cause thereof ? Minist . Because that the same vilenesse is in the Nature of the Childe of God , which is in the prophanest Reprobate . Scholler . I grant the Child of God before hee be called effectually , may goe on for a while in as euill a course as any Reprobate . But can the Child of God who hath beene effectually called , fall from his feeling and holinesse , in such sinnes as maketh the Reprobate damned for euer ? Minist . Most certainly he may . Schol. How are you able to confirme your iudgement ? Minist . In place of light , hee may be couered with darkenes : In place of feeling and perswasion , there may come deadnes & doubting ; in place of ioy , terror : for softnesse of heart hardnesse ; in place of holines , much prophanenesse . Schol. Explaine your meaning in so saying . Minist . It is plaine , that there was in Iob terror and doubting . And in the Prophet Dauid , sense of wrath , and grieuous feares of wrath . And in Salomon a strange and fearefull declining from good , and a wonderfull practise of euill . Schol. Can the child of God altogether loose the comfort of feeling , and be oppressed with terror ? Minist . Yea truly , and that so farre , that the sense of sinne and the wrath of God , will ouer-burden the soule : as Dauid testifieth , when hee saith : Thy hand was heauy vpon mee day and night , & my moisture is turned into the drought of Sommer . And againe , There is nothing sound in my flesh , because of thine anger , neither is there rest in my bones because of my sinne ; for mine iniquities are gone ouer my head , and as a mighty burden are too heauy for me . My wounds are putrified and corrupt , because of my foolishnes . My reines are full of burning , and there is nothing sound in my flesh : yea hee further testifieth that the indignation of God lay vpon him . Againe he saith , Thy indignation goeth ouer me ; and thy feare hath cut me off . Schol. Yet declare further , how far may the Childe of God be cast downe ( feeling of Gods absence ) being in continuall vexation by the apprehension of his anger , yet continuing the Child of God ? Min. First , the Child of God may be driuen to such an extremity and narrow pinch , that ( to his feeling ) God hideth his face from him ; the Lord reiecteth his soule , and when he roareth , crying out , that he shutteth foorth his prayer . Next , to his sense & feeling , he will feele the God of heauen to be his enemies , pulling him in pieces , causing the arrowes of his quiuer to enter into his reines , filling him with bitternesse , and causing his soule to be farre from peace . Againe , the Childe of God , to his feeling , may through the affliction of his soule , be at the brinke of despaire , and at the point of death : yea and from his youth suffer terrors , doubting of his life . Lastly , the Child of God through the manifold tentations of his soule ; will be so deiected , that when he prayeth , his spirit will be full of anguish and vexation , and agony , thinking that God hath either forgotten to bee mercifull , or that hee hath shut vp his tender mercies in displeasure : that hee hath ouerthrowne and destroyed him on euery side : that being gone , God hath kindled his wrath against him . Schol. Can the Childe of God after he hath felt terror become so senselesse , that he will bee hardened from the feare and awe of the maiestie of God ? Minist . He may , as the Prophet Isaiah testifieth , when hee saith , Why hast thou made vs to erre from thy waies : & hardned our hearts from thy feare ? as also experience of the Saints of God in all ages witnes the same . Schol. How farre may the Childe of God after his effectuall calling runne riotously in prophane loosenesse ? Min. First he may stray and fall away in his affections of loue and hatred . Secondly , hee may loose the reines in outward actions . Schol. How may the Child of God degenerate in his affections ? Minist . First his loue and obedience may grow cooler vnto Christ Iesus , his hatred likewise of sinne may be diminished : & the loue of righteousnes be remoued a little ; and yet remaine the Childe of God. As we see in Dauid , a man after Gods owne heart , and Peter , Christs deare Apostle , who thus for a while did fall away in their affections . Schol. What are the degrees by which the Child of God commeth vnto this disordered riot and loosenesse in his affectiones ? Min. First , he suffereth the presence of God to goe foorth of his heart ; and the minde to be blinded . 2. Hee leaueth off seriously either to seeke God , or to mourne for his absence . 3. The vaile and snares of hardnesse of heart , thus commeth vpon him . 4. The heart becommeth senselesse and dead . 5. The party thus lying open vnto tentation vnarmed , sinne deceiueth , with the enticements thereof defiling the affections , perswading them to fulfill the lusts of the flesh . 6. The sense of heauen and of hell become strangely decayed . And lastly , there may well abide a light to conuince and conuict the conscience thus defiled , but no power to resist sinne in the act . Schol. What should wee learne from hence ? Minist . First , to beware we loose not our peace and communion with God. 2. To shun hardnesse of heart , and blindnesse of minde . 3. Not to suffer the conscience to be senselesse without feeling , but euer to retaine a sight and sense of sinne , and the terror of Gods wrath for the same : with some measure of remorse and godly sorrow . 4. To be watchfull , that the vile bewitching pleasures of sin , benumme not the conscience , making it consent vnto such abhominations : for if we so doe , the strength of sinne will ouercome vs ; and by the righteous iudgement of God we shall fall into some great danger , which although it bring vs not to hell , shall be a staine in the conscience , and as a thorne in our side all our life long . Schol. Is it possible for the Childe of God to fall into such grosse sinnes ; as those who are ordained vnto destruction ? the sinne against the holy Ghost excepted ? Mi. Nothing more certain : he may fall into the same sins , and yet be no cast away . Esau a Reprobate was a fornicator : Dauid an Elect did commit adultery . Lot an Elect was ouertaken with drunkennes & incest : so also was Noah with wine , Peter an elect denied Christ , and Ioseph did sweare by the life of Pharaoh : so that he hath no freedome ( if Gods spirit be absent ) more then these , not to fal into such grosse sins : the sinne against the holy Ghost excepted . Schol. What is the sinne against the holy Ghost ? Min. There are sixe names giuen vnto this great sinne . 1. It is called , a sinne against the holy Ghost . 2. A blasphemy , an impious blasphemy , extreamely impious . 3. A sinne that neuer shall be forgiuen . 4. A falling away , an Apostasie . 5. A sinne against knowledge and conscience , in great light , in despite of the spirit of grace . 6. A sinne vnto death . Schol. Why is it so diuersly named ? Mi. Because God in his word hath beene pleased so to expresse the same vnto vs : yet , if we list to looke more neerely into the same , we shall finde sundry causes . 1. It is called , A sinne against the holy Ghost . Not in respect of the substance of the holy Ghost , for the essence of the three persons is all in one and the same God : nor yet in respect of the Person of the holy Ghost , for whatsoeuer is done against any one of the persons , is done against all three : but it is sayd to be done against the holy Spirit , because done against the immediate effect , worke , and office of the holy Spirit , to wit , against the shining light of the said spirit : this light is indeed an effect of the Father and of the Son , as well as of the holy spirit : yet it is said to be against the holy Ghost onely , because it fighteth against a speciall immediate worke of his , against that light and worke of grace kindled by him . 2. It is called a blasphemy , an impious blasphemy , extreamly wicked . There be diuers blasphemies , a blasphemy of men , a blasphemie directly against the Sonne of man ; a blasphemy impious , wicked , such as was Pauls blasphemy , which because ( as he testifieth ) it was not done wittingly , he was receiued into mercy , because hee did it ignorantly . But this sinne against the holy Ghost , is a blasphemy exceeding wicked ; surpassing his , because it is done with extreame despite against a manifest conuincing light . 3. It is called a sinne which neuer shall be forgiuen not from the nature of the sinne , as if there could bee any surpassing Gods mercy ( for a finite creature is not able to commit that sinne , which an infinit God in mercy is not more able to pardon ) but it is saide to be irremissible , because there is no mercy appointed for it , because there is to repentance to be giuen to such a one , and such a one shall neuer beg for mercy . Yea I may further adde , that the fury of such a one who committeth this sinne , is so great against Christ , that suppose he might haue mercy by repentance , yet hee would not haue it . 4. It is called a falling away or an apostasie ; because it is not only a simple Apostasie , of a part , or for a time , nor yet an Epilepsie , or a Spirit of slumber , but also a totall , finall Apostasie . 5. It is called , a sin against conscience and knowledge , with great despight against the spirit of grace : there is no man but hee sinneth against knowledge , & conscience . So these Pillars of the Church , Peter and Dauid ( before him ) sinned , with many more . Yet all without despight : therefore take away despight , malice , and extreame despight , and so long , there will be no sinne against the holy Ghost . Lastly , it is called a sinne vnto death , because all sorts of death doe follow it , corporall and spirituall , first and second , temporall and eternall . Schol. Where doth this greatest sinne chiefely make residence , in these who commit the same ? Minist . In the heart and minde . Sch. How may it be iudged of there ? Minist . By sixe properties or effects , three in the minde , and three in the heart . Schol. Declare which be they ? Minist . In the minde it is done against all sorts of light , 1. Against the generall light of all the powers of the mind . 2. Against the particular speciall light of the conscience . 3. Against the spirituall light , that light of the spirit , word and grace . Secondly , in the heart . 1. It must bee done willingly , with a full consent ( as the Apostle speaketh . ) For if wee sinne willingly , &c. 2. There must be malice in it : as ver . 29. where such a one is brought in despiting the spirit of grace , &c. 3. There must be the extreamitie of malice in the same ; because such a one treadeth vnder foot the Son of God , and trampleth vnder , the blood of the New Testament , as if it were dogs blood : crucifying Christ vnto himselfe , and making a mock of him ; all which are actions of despite , and extreame desperate malice . Schol. What principall qualitie must he needs be endowed with , who can commit this sinne ? Mini. He must haue a great light and knowledge : for then it is properly said to be committed , when a mans illumination is so great , that hee cannot bee ignorant ( though he would ) what he doth , and yet for all this , will wittingly and willingly of a desperate malice , oppugne , impugne , Christ and his Truth more and more , persecuting the same with finall obstinacy , to that end onely to withstand & despit him : so that then they become of a diuellish nature , or rather very diuels : for still the further one wadeth into this sinne , ( vntill the consummation thereof ) the more hee partakes both of the knowledge and malice of the diuell : As the Pharises . &c. Of all others the worst : for some there were who knew Christ in his cratch , some sucking his mother very yong , some nailed on the crosse : others againe , could not know him , no not in the greatest light and glory of his miracles . A 3. sort he had to doe with ; who knew him clearely by the light of the spirit , and of his wonderful works : & yet malitiously spake and did against their knowledge , blaspheme , scoffe , and mocke the Sonne of God ; and these were the Pharises , whom falling into this blasphemy against the holy Spirit , Christ reprooueth and threatneth . Schol. To how many sorts of people is it incident to commit this sinne ? Minister . As I take it , to two sorts onely . Schol. Which be they ? Minister . First , such who hauing giuen their names vnto Christ , taking vpon them a profession of him and his truth , yet in the time of tentation doe make defection , continuing in the same , vntill they fall into an vniuersall Apostasie , so perfecting this sinne . 2. There hath beene an other sort , who knewe the Truth clearly , by a generall , speciall , spirituall , conuincing light , nor taking vppon them the profession therof , nor the names of Christians : who not-withstanding that they were indued with a great light of the Truth ; yet did with all theyr might in great malice impugne the same , persecuting with great obstinacie Christ and his members : such were the Pharisies . Of the first sort , who made defection , wee read of Alexander the coppersmith , Iultan the Apostate , Porphyrie , &c. Of the other as I haue saide were the Pharisies . For they knew that an vncleane spirit coulde not worke a true Miracle : seeing euery true Miracle must bee wrought by an infinite not bounded power ( the whole power of Hell beeing limited ) which is onely of God : therefore to ascribe such Miraculous works to Belzebub an vncleane spirit ( derogating the glory of the Sonne of God , and taking away the fruites and efficacy of the Spirit ) was in them as vilde and pernicious a blasphemie as could bee : Since all the diuels in hell ( their power beeing ioyned ) are not able to worke one true miracle : for by them Christ was declared to bee the Almighty God manifested in our flesh . Iustly then were they condemned of blasphemy against the holy Spirit , because their sinne had in it no infirmity : but was altogether of obstinate , setled , well-aduised malice : whence from them this sinne hath the name of blasphemie ; as from the first sort of Professours ( who haue made defection ) it is called Apostasie . Schol. What doe you call , or how doe you define this Apostasie from the trueth ? Min. It is not an Apostasie from a naturall , morall , or ciuill trueth , from a trueth in these outward things , ( for which men so striue ) but it is an Apostasie from a supernaturall trueth , from a trueth concerning our euerlasting saluation , and the liuely faith in Christ Iesus . 2. It is not onely a particular Apostasie , from any piece or parcell of this Diuine trueth , but it is a generall Apostasie , from the whole word of his trueth , which wee call the Gospell , and consequently , a manifest defection from the liuing God , who in Christ Iesus was manifested in our nature . Neither is it a partiall defection with a part of the soule onely : with the minde or heart onely : but it is a totall defection of the whole soule : yea , not only of the whole soule , but also of the whole man , both soule and body . 3. It is a finall defection , a defection without recouerie , such an Apostasie as Heb. 6. is called a falling away : so that whosoeuer falleth truly into this sin , falleth away without recouery : yet men doe not come vnto this vniuersall Apostasie all at once , but by little and little , and processe of time : for first , they chase away and banish their whole light ; they waft & make shipwracke of conscience ; they desperately harden their whole hearts , vntill they become as it were incarnate diuels , Sathanized in a wonderfull manner , vntill they match Beelzebub himselfe in their desperate despite and malice : so that there is no sinne which maketh a man so spitefully to detest Christ , as this sinne ; yea , with such extreame hatred , that although he might , hee will receiue no benefit of his Propitiatorie and Expiatorie sacrifice . Scho. What is the cause that this sinne is so seuerely punished ? Mini. Amongst other causes , because it is so free of infirmity & suddaine fits and passions ( which other sins are not free of ) and so full of desperate malitious well-aduised malice , scraping forth all light , banishing all conscience , fighting against the heauens so farre , that because it cannot attaine vnto Christ ( who now in Heauen sitteth at the right hand of the Father , in all glory ) it vndertaketh to bee reuenged vppon his true members , the militant Church vpon earth : which ( so farre as it can , it persecuteth , oppresseth , and by all meanes rooteth out : so that it is iust with God in his righteous iudgement , to haue decreed , neuer to giue repentance vnto the same . Schol. By what steppes or degrees doeth this sinne ascend to the height of impiety ? Min. By foure steps it ascendes , or rather descends towards Hell. 1. It maketh a man doe actions against knowledge and conscience ( and that without infirmity , vsuall in other sinnes ) falling from the Faith of Christ . Next , it maketh them to goe on forward in the same continually , vntill they make their partiall defection a Totall , their particular a generall , and their generall , a finall Apostasie . Then , further , it maketh a man diuellish , malicious , despitefull , to grow in malice against Christ and his members , more and more . Lastly , if ( neere finished ) it bee the sinne against the Holy-Ghost indeede : It maketh a man violently breake foorth in all sorts or fearefull and terrible persecutions : in all kinde of blasphemies , and grosse visible actuall sinnes : all murthers , burnings , oppressions , Witcherafts , Sorceries , Exterpations , finally , and what not ? to that end onely that it may resist , oppose , and despight , and fight against the power , effect , graces , and conuincing light of the Spirit . Scholler . May not one who in GODS sight and decree is chosen vnto life , seeme to beginne to fall into this sinne , and yet bee called backe both from preceeding therein , and finishing the same ? Minister . As I take it , he may : for wee know Manasseh , the Sonne of good Hezekiah King of Iuday , ruling in Ierusalem , the place of Gods glory and worship , in the midst of a glorious Priesthood , many hundred yeeres olde : ( whereof he could not be ignorant ) did notwithstanding abhominably sinne , and seeme to goe on in the finishing of this sinne for a long time ; ouerturning and extinguishing ( to his power ) Gods worship , building againe those high places which his Father had cast downe and abolished ; making a Groue , and worshipping the whole hoast of heauen , building Altars ( contrarie to Gods commandement ) in the house of the Lord , and in the two vtter Courts thereof , for the whole hoast of heauen ; causing his Sonnes to passe through the fire , giuing himselfe to witchcraft and sorcerie , to vse familiar Spirits and Southsayers : setting vp the Image of his Groue in the house of the Lord : filling and causing Ierusalem to swimme from corner to corner with innocent blood : finally , exceeding those exceedings sinnes of the Amorites , yet no cast-away , but at length proued to be the child of GOD for all this . Iosephus also thus writeth of him . Hee was so impudent , that hee spared not to pollute the very Temple of God , the Citie and the whole Countrey : for making his entry in despite of God , he slew afterwards all those who were vertuous men amongst the Hebrewes , and though hee had no want of Prophets : yet so it is that he killed euery day some : so that Ierusalem was ouerflowne with blood , &c. Thus farre wee see one went , and was by the mercy of GOD called backe againe . Wherefore no poore Christian ( howsoeuer sinfull ) not comming neere the sinnes of Manasseh ought not to thinke hee hath committed this sinne : yet is it good for all to flye all sinnes : chiefely , those done with deliberation , against light , knowledge , and conscience : for wee know , the further that euen Peter himselfe went in Caiaphas Hall , hee swore and forswore , denying Christ so much the more : but it was a great mercy to be called backe againe : for which , let all in their feares wish and pray . Schol. What in the meane time must comfort & vphold poore fearefull soules ; who imagine to haue committed this sin , therefore forsaking all meanes ? Minist . In my iudgement , a better information of their iudgements is of great consequence to helpe to sustaine them ; for though wee yeeld for a while to all they affirme , yet if they say , that they could wish that they had not so sinned , certainely then , they haue not thus sinned ; or if they feare to bee , or fall into this sinne , they shall surely neuer commit this sinne . Further , such persons must bee demaunded of ; whether they be come vnto that despite against Christ , that they would trample vpon his blood vs vpon the blood of a dogge ? whether their impious blasphemie be such , that ( with the Pharisies ) they doe call him Belzebub ? whether those forgoing propertie , of this sinne haue beene in them : viz. a touched heart , a taste of the powers of the word of trueth , a taste of the powers of the world to come , to bee partaker of the Spirit ( whence all such who affirme that their former actions , and seeming graces , haue onely bin hypocriticall lip-labor , are excluded from possibility to haue committed this sinne ) whether they haue fallen quite away from their religion ? whether they haue renounced their faith in Christ ? Whether they haue impugned & oppressed the knowne trueth ; yet persisting therein with resolution still to goe on therein ? Whether they haue fallen against knowledge and conscience ? whether there bee no infirmitie in their falls ? what long time it is since they haue so sinned ? whether or not as yet they may bee reclaimed ? Whether now they obstinately persecute Christ in all his members , so farre as they are able ? Whether they runne not with a high hand , in all manner of grosse actuall sinnes and rebellions ? Whether their wickednes be such , that ( vnto their power ) they draw others into the same excesse of riot with them ? Whether their disease hath bin , and is , onely in blasphemies of the minde , and then , it is not , nor so long can bee this great sinne , which bursteth forth ( as is prooued ) in store of all manner of grosse abominable actions ? whether if Christ were now amongst vs visibly ; they would set to their hands , and help to crucifie him again ? Whether their temporall be turned into a final Apostasie ? ( which is only a time for the whole Church to iudge thereof . ) Finally , whether they be transformed ( in a manner ) into the very diuell ? So partaking of his light knowledge , malice , and diuellish nature : all which properties to bee in them , none but by aduice of the diuell ( in the furie of a strong tentation ) will dare to affirme , so that by tha time these questions haue beene pressed ; and their contrarie , lying , shifting , Sophisticall answeres , obiections , and euasions refuted and discouered , it is likely by the grace of God and the other meanes , that the fury of the temptation will diminish , and their iudgements be somewhat enlightened : Since it is a trick of the diuell in temptation ( chiefely when he is ayded by melancholly ) to make our least sins our greatest , and our indifferent sins , the sin against the holy Spirit . Therefore now to conclude this point , all such poore sinners , who either feare to haue committed , or to commit this sin , not hauing the fore-named properties ( for some , or a fewe of them will proue nothing ) may cheere vp their faint-ding spirits , and lift vp their feeble falling hands & weake knees , making straight steps vnto their feete ( as the Apostle speaketh ) least that which is halting be turned out of the way . For their sin is farre , farre , farre : and not neere this most fearefull extreamely impious blasphemy , vnto which repentance is denied : farre from this finall Apostasie and wilfull malicious sin , against knowledge , and the conuincing , coole , well-aduised light of conscience : Farre , farre , & not neere this sinne vnto death , called , The sinne against the holy Ghost : and therefore may , and ought boldly to vse all the holy meanes , appointed of God to attaine the assurance of saluation . Schol. But to returne to our former purpose , how commeth it to passe that the children of God fall into such grieuous sinnes ; grace by the holy Ghost being begun in them ? Mi. Because they nourish not the grace of God , but suffer the power of sinne to ouer-rule them . Schol. After what manner doe the degrees of sinne growe vpon the Elect ? Minist . First , the minde is blinded the will peruerted , and the affections corrupted with the desire of the pleasures of sinne . 2. The graces of the holy Spirit are quenched by the entertaining of worldly lusts . 3. The inward restrayning grace being away , and so the heart defiled with vncleannesse , the members of the body ( which are now become the weapons of vnrighteousnesse ) hauing no power to resist , doe yeeld and fulfill the will of the flesh . Scholler . What may wee learne from hence ? Minist . First , to take good heede , and beware of the first motions of sinne . Next , warily to entertaine grace , both in flying all occasions of wickednesse , and entertaining all holy exercises ; thereby preuenting hardnesse of heart , blindnesse of minde , and deadnesse of Spirit . Further , to haue a continuall battell against the vildnesse of our inward lusts . Lastly , although the flesh refuse to fight : yet to be constant , and neuer giue ouer striuing if it were but with one sigh vnto God , from the sense and burden of corruption . Schol. What is the disposition and state of the childe of God , when he sinneth in the afore-said manner ? Mini. He is senselesse either of the ioyes which he once felt , or of the terrours wherewith his soule once was pierced , because hee hath quenched the Spirit . Next , the loue of sinne preuaileth against that loue which formerly he had of God. Then the heart is hardened ; in which , although there abide a memorie of wrath , yet there remaineth no terrour to be as a bridle to curbe and restraine sinne . Further , there is a sluggish vnwilling carelesnesse , in performance of all spirituall excercises : he hath then no pleasure in prayer , reading or hearing of the word , &c. Last of all , those small sinnes which before hee made conscience of , he will neither account so much of them , nor of greater sinnes , as before hee did of euill thoughts . Schol. What is the cause heereof ? Minist . First , an inward desertion of the Spirit : Next , the tyrannie of the flesh in the lusts of it . Scho. What causeth the Spirit of God to withdraw himselfe ? Min. Sinne and impenitencie . Scho. What maketh the affections to be thus vile ? Minister . First , a distaste of the meanes of Grace . 2. Pleasure in vnrighteousnes . Schol. Doeth the childe of God sinne as freely , and as senselesly , as the wicked and reprobate ? Min. Before he be called , he may . Sc. But after effectuall calling , will he sinne as freely and loosely without conscience as the wicked ? Minist . As concerning the vnrenewed part . Sch. How is it possible that the childe of God being effectually called , can fall , seeing he hath the Spirit of God. Minist . By reason of the weakenes of grace , and strength of corruption . Then because the child of God suffereth the heart to goe loose , without laying any imposition and burden vpon the same , either of terror or inward strife , by holy exercises of the minde , or outward lawfull imployments of an ordinary calling . Scho. What necessitie is there of this burdening the heart . Min. Because the heart is neuer idle , but in continuall motion : therefore when we ouercome it not with good things ( it being now bent vnto all euill ) or when in striuing wee are not equall vnto it : It ouercommeth vs , making vs to fall shamefully . Schol. Doth the childe of God for all this sinne so freely , that he escapeth in the meane time vnchallenged ? Mini. No , for in the time of his sinning , hee hath a reprouing accuser within him . Schol. What in this doth the renewed part ? Minist . It will not suffer him to take his full swinge in him , but hee is displeased with it : It admonisheth , but is not hard : It opposeth it selfe , but hath no force to controle , command or restraine , but is ouercome by the olde flouds of filthinesse of the vnrenewed part : And thus it lyeth as it were smoothered , drowned , & quenched : and so the Spirit commeth to be grieued . Scholler . Now tell me if the child of God can fall after that hee hath receiued great comfort ? Minist . He may , for Peter after that he was ouershadowed on the Mount did fall grieuously , denying and forswearing Christ . And also afterwards , when hee had receiued a farre greater measure of the Spirit , did not only dissemble himselfe , but also drew Barnabas in the same hypocrisie . Scholler . Can the childe of God after that hee hath beene heauily cast downe with terror fall againe ? Minist . He may : so Ezechias , after he had bin greatly terrified , did fall ; so did Dauid in numbring the people . Scholler . Why suffereth the Lords his Saints to fall thus ? Mini. First , to teach him that standeth to take heed least he fall . Secondly , to shew vnto the Saints their owne weaknesse . 3. To teach them to entertaine and cherish God carefully in their hearts . 4. To make his children earnest in begging the grace of sanctification ( yea aboue the grace of feeling ) that their election may bee confirmed so much the surer vnto them thereby . Scho. Doth the Lord suffer his Saints after they haue fallen , to sleepe in sinne ? Minist . Not alwaies , but in the end he wakeneth them . Schol. What is the first thing which God worketh in them at their wakening ? Minist . He worketh in them , first a sight : secondly , a sense of sinne : lastly , a feare of punishment . Sc. What maner of sight worketh he ? Minist . First , he letteth them see the hainousnesse of their sinnes in hauing offended so glorious , dreadfull and terrible a Maiestie . Then hee aggrauateth their sinnes so much the more , in that it was against the light of conscience and feeling , after their effectuall calling : therefore the wrath of God to be so much the more incensed against their sinne . Lastly , he sheweth them to be guiltie , and by their owne confessions , iudge and condemne them to be worthy of hell fire . Schl. What manner of sense is that the child of God hath being thus wakened ? Min. First a sensible torment : Next , an absence of the holy Spirit , and his sinne standing vp betwixt him , and the mercy of God. Scho. What maner of torment is that which he feeleth ? Min. The torture-racking conscience drawing him before Gods tribunal , accusing , conuicting , and condemning him , beginning to be a terrible executioner , in vexing and tossing the soule , with the intollerable sting of an vnspeakeable wrath . Schol. What in the meane time doth the soule in such an estate ? Minist . It suffereth vnder intollerable weights and burdens , doubtings , heauy and conflicting battels , not being able to find any issue . Schol. What manner of feare is that which the Child of God hath being wakened ? Minist . A feare of eternall reiection from God. Next , a feare that his effectuall calling ( which he once imagined to be good ) was but counterfet . Further , a feare that the holy Spirite will neuer come againe either to comfort or sanctifie him , in that measure he formerly enioyed it . Lastly , a feare that either his sinne will not be forgiuen him : or at least will bring some great shame and punishment vpon him . Scho. In this estate what is the disposition of the Child of God towards sinne ? Minist . He wisheth from the bottome of his heart hee had not so sinned . Next , hee hath indignation at sinne , not so much for the torment he feeleth , as that he hath offended so good and gracious a God. Yea , hee abhorreth himselfe for his sinne . Sch. What learne we from this manner of wakening of Gods Saints ? Minist . First , that God will not suffer his children to sleepe for euer in their sinnes . Next , that sinne hath a most terrible , fearefull countenance . Lastly , that though sinne lurke for a while , and seeme pleasant to the taste , yet it bringeth with it the extreamest sorrow in the world : yea , if God but waken any for an euill thought , it prooueth more fearefull , then all the torments in the earth . Schol. Which be the sinnes that trouble the child of God most ? Min. Those sinnes which he committeth after his effectuall calling . Schol. But , will the Lord suffer his children to lye still thus vnder terror and doubting ? Minist . No. Schol. What , and how worketh he in his Saints , after that in this manner hee hath beaten them downe ? Minist . First , he softneth the heart in a bitter sorrow , in the abundance of the Spirit of prayer and mourning , to poure out the heart before him with many teares and strong cries . Next , by degrees in processe of time , he poureth out , first a hope , then a sense and perswasion of the remission of sinnes : clensing the soule from guiltinesse , through his most pretious blood , all-sufficient merites and satisfaction , being apprehended and applyed by faith , which he then increaseth and strengthneth to see and lay hold vpon the promises of life . Then , hereupon he bringeth comfort , and more assured perswasion vnto the soule , confirming and setling the weary and troubled heart with the spirit of peace . Lastly , he giueth the trembling soule a free accesse vnto his countenance , with boldnesse to draw neere vnto the Throne of Grace ; and crie Abba , Father . So that marke how fearefull it was before of his dreadfull Maiestie , and how it was perplexed in doubting of his loue , it will now find him a thousand times more comfortable and more sweete in powring out of his loue ; and the sense thereof , by the Spirit of adoption , and ioy of the holy Ghost . Sch. What fruits bringeth this foorth . Mini. In respect of God , the child of God will loue him better then euer hee did before . The Lord will also bee most pretious in his eyes : and the promise will bee as meate and drinke vnto the soule . Next , in regard of sinne hee will hate and abhorre it more then euer hee did , and will bee very warie of the deceitfulnesse thereof , that it snare and entice him not in the like manner againe . Further hee will abhorre himselfe in regard of sinne , accounting of himselfe as of the most base and miserable wretch in the world . Lastly , he will labour instantly , in season and out of season , to make a couenant with the eyes , the tongue , and all the members of the body , watching also diligently ouer the heart and affections that , as in former times , they riot not in licentiousnesse . Schol. Yet , I would know , whether one feeling the bitternesse of his sin and mourning for the same , & hauing a sense of the forgiuenesse thereof , with a full purpose neuer to do so anymore by Gods grace : if yet for all this , hee can fall into the same sinne againe . Minist . Yea certainly in some sort . Schol How so . Minist . First , because in men there is a predominant sinne of naturall inclination , which hath more power ouer a man , then any other sinne : which cleaueth as close vnto him , as the skinne of his body . This sinne for the most part leadeth , and ouer-ruleth a man : well it may be that with much strife , sorrow , mourning , and with many teares hee may obtaine grace to see , hate , striue against it , and in part to slay it , but doe what he can , hee will hardly get it altogether abolished . Againe , because Sathan the cruell enemie of our saluation , still prouoketh the childe of God chiefely with the inticements of that ouer-ruling sinne , working after this manner . First , he watcheth diligently for an opportunitie to catch vs , when we are not vpon our guard , or when ( being carelesse ) we thinke and footh our selues that we haue sufficiently ouercome and maistered such a sinne , and that we shall not be troubled therewith any more . Then , hauing thus at vnawares surprised vs ( wee being vnarmed and not able to resist ) his inticements ( ayded by our inward foes ) reenter into vs againe by degrees : so causing vs to fall by little and little . For , first hee casteth a faire smooth vaile ouer the predominant sinne of naturall inclination , making it either ( if it be possible ) to appeare no sinne at all , or at least to be but a small , light , trifling thing and not out of measure sinnefull as indeede it is : after which ( frailty not being able to resist ) the affections are defiled , inflamed and set a fire , with a loue to the inticing obiect of seeming delight : which being done ( the flesh and carnal reason now bearing sway ) hee neuer leaueth vntill he cause the Childe of God to fall into the same sinne againe ; vnlesse the Lord by speciall Grace sustaine him . Schol. What mooueth that cruell enemy to assault Gods children in that terrible manner ? Minist . The hatred which he hath , first , against God , and then against man because of God. Next , because aboue all things hee would gladliest haue one to fall away , who hath obtained Grace : for this he thinketh is his glory , to disgrace the worke of the holy Spirit in vs ; and to cause the name and holy religion of God to be blasphemed : As also that hee may bragge ( if it were possible ) of his victory ouer the power and grace of God. And further , because there is rooted in him an vnsatiable desire of the destruction of all the creatures of God , but especially of his Elect children . Sc. What lesson ariseth from hence ? Minist . First , to take no truce with sinne , because this cruell enemie entreth vnto the soule thereby : for dallying with sinne is as it were a doore for him to enter in vs : the soule then being the place of his residence . 2. To labour diligently and narrowly to finde out all our sinnes : chiefely that predominant of naturall inclination . 3. We must labour to be in a continuall battell alwayes with all our sinnes , giuing them no rest , nay not so much as suffering an euill thought to enter into our minde with peace , but to suppresse , pursue and crucifie it presently , by lifting vp the heart vnto Christ , & striuing against it Fourthly , to be sure that we repent vs of all our sinnes , truely , as often , and so many as possibly wee can remember , crauing for those wee cannot call to minde ; and as our eyes are opened , by which we see more and more , to be sure we purge all out , conceale nothing from God : so making a cleane conscience . 5. To be at a continuall battell with all our euill affections , pressing them downe with a continuall remorse and sorrow , with faith in the obedience , merits , death and resurrection of Christ Iesus . 6. To watch continually and beware that the strength of sinne on a sodaine inflame not so the powers of the soule , that they breake out like fire in the whole man. 7. To be sure aboue all things we continue a most earnest constant fight against our predominant sinne , being warie as we loue our life and peace , that we suffer not the least motion thereof to enter in our soules , because this ( aboue all other sinnes ) is the traytour that will soonest deceiue vs , vnder shew of friendship . For if we suffer the thoughts thereof to encroach vpon vs , it will passe our power to restraine the same ; vntill ( to our extreame sorrow ) it haue burst forth in action . Further , to labour to fill the heart , both with the word , and with a sense of our continuall guiltinesse , because we drinke iniquite continually , like vnto water : endeauouring therefore to let the feare of God so possesse the soule , as to terrifie it from euery little sinne whatsoeuer , remembring also continually the excellencie of that euer-glorious Crowne prepared for all those , who with a true ( though weake ) endeauour ( according to grace giuen ) striue for the same , with patience , running that race which is set before them , least with the damned they burne in hell-fire for euer . Then , to labour with all our might to keepe a broken and contrite heart , soft and humbled , not only for the euill we do , but also for that good wee should haue and doe . Further , to bee familiar with God in prayer , labouring so to settle the heart , that we may be more and more acquainted with him . In which we must marke what our disposition is before wee pray , what comfort wee haue in prayer , and how wee are disposed after prayer : when if we find no comfortable presence or sense of his loue ; wee must looke backe vnto our former actions since last we receiued comfort , viewing what Ionas causeth this tempest : which found , wee then must neuer giue ouer , vntill by a sound repentance we haue purged the heart therof . Lastly , to endeuour ( whatsoeuer the world thinke ) still to keepe a sorrowfull and lowly heart , longing for his blessed Maiestie vntill he come : when we feele him present , blessing him for the same , and diligently retayning him by faith and a good conscience . Scholler . Seeing the Lord hath all grace in his owne hand , and both biddeth vs be holy as hee is holy , and hath power to make vs holy : What is the cause that hee suffereth his deare Saints to fall sometimes againe and againe into the same sinnes which they hate , being sorrowfull for them , and desiring earnestly to leaue them ? Minist . To exercise their faith and repentance , and humble them least they should grow proud . To make them loath this present life ( in regard of sinne ) when they behold and feele themselues thus snared against their wills , to long for that life where they shall neuer sinne any more : but serue their God willingly , perfectly , and constantly for euer and euer . Schol. May any one then conclude that he is vnder the eternall terrour of Gods wrath reprobated , when he feeleth an absence of God , a presence of sinne after remorse and true for sorrow falling into the same sinne againe ? Minist . No. Schol. In such an extreamity , what must then vphold ? Minist . Three things . 1. To looke vnto that which God worketh in vs : 2. To looke diligently into the nature of God. 3. Vnto the examples of the Saints . Schol. What should be obserued , concerning GODS working in vs ? Minister . First , that seeing we consist of diuers contrarie parts , renewed and vnrenewed ; that there may bee in the renewed a misliking of the euill , that we may say with Saint Paul : It is no more we , but sinne , which reigneth in vs doing the euill . So againe , The thing which I hate , that doe I , and the good thing which I would , that doe I not . Next , we must be sure , that so often as we fall , wee must immediatly flye vnto GOD by repentance , to obtaine new remission and pardon , not delaying the time , least ere wee be aware , deadnesse and hardnesse of heart steale vpon vs , seeing he who is vnfit to day , shall be lesse fit to morrow ; remembring there-withall , least Sathan ( who warcheth but an opportunity to drowne the soule in perpetuall sorrow ) ( suggest some lye or slaunder vpon the trueth of GOD : That the iust man ( as it is written ) falleth seuen times a day and riseth againe : and that when a sinner repenteth him of his sinnes , from the bottome of his heart , God will put away all his iniquities out of his sight . And further , that since hee himselfe ( the Law-maker ) in the Gospell hath commanded vs , to forgiue our brother not onely seauen times ; but also seauenty times , a day ; not to doubt ( seeing hee is the perfect patterne and fountaine of mercie ) but that hee will put in practise his owne commaundement . Further , we must obserue , whether the falling into sinne , bringeth with it a new and more mortall hatred vnto the same sinne , with new exercises of faith ; so that looke how fast and often sinne assaileth vs , we be as busie labouring and thinking of new engines , with which wee may resist , destroy , and expell the same ; resoluing by the grace of God neuer to giue ouer , vntill wee obtaine victory ouer it : with a resolution to fight constantly against it , though GOD should humble vs with such a crosse vntill our last breath ; heere trying whether yet in this extreame sorrowfull estate ( we haue a secret hope ) with heauie , low , drowned , stollen sighes , that God will one day in his owne good time releeue vs ; we in the meane time retaining a holy humble iealousie ouer our selues : altogether relying vpon GOD , and mourning as oft as wee are able for strength against it : chiefely then , when we imagine all peace , the power and rage therof being quite subdued . Then also , we must marke , if our loue vnto God maketh also our loue vnto Christ Iesus to grow bold and violent ; so that we run vnto him with all our might , laying hold of him and his righteousnes for our life , with a vehement loue ( grounded vpon his nature ) which will not be put backe with whatsoeuer euer checkes : thus crying vnto him continually for a sense and feeling of the remission of our sinnes ( for those , vnto whom much is forgiuen , they loue much ) it being vnto vs a most sure token of forgiuenesse , when our soules are bound vp with a secret sweete loue vnto Christ Iesus . Lastly , we must take heede , and be sure , that we haue this disposition in vs , that because we haue so often found God so exceeding good and mercifull in forgiuing vs againe and againe , that ( if it were possible ) although there were no hell , yet for the loue of God onely , we would abstaine from sinne and the occasions thereof . Schol. What should we looke to in the nature of God ? Min. That he is mercy and loue it selfe , and through loue hath sent Christ to redeeme vs : and that hee looketh not vnto our vnworthinesse , but vnto his owne mercies . That as the pittifull Parents tender the good of their children in all chastisements : so doth God in all these crosses , procure the good of his Saints . That there be more mercies in God , then sinnes in vs. That as he is able to forgiue vs one sinne , so is he able to forgiue vs many hundred thousand sinnes , euen so often as he giueth vnto vs faith and repentance . For the Lord neuer bestoweth these graces vpon any , whom hee also therewith forgiueth not . Schol. What should we haue regard vnto , in the examples of the Saints ? Minist . First , looke how they haue fallen after grace obtained . 2. Consider how God hath freely forgiuen them . 3. Consider that they not onely obtained mercy for themselues , but that they also might be the examples of the mercy of God vnto others . Paul , he obtained mercie , that Iesus Christ might shewe vpon him all long-suffering , for an example vnto all such who should in time to come beleeue vnto eternall life . And Abraham , his faith was counted vnto him for righteousnes ; & it is written , not for him onely , but also for vs who beleeue in him , who raised vp Iesus our Lord from the dead . FINIS . A Prayer for the Distressed . O Most mighty , most glorious , eternall , iust , holy , omnipotent , all-seeing , and euer-liuing God , who art full of terrible Maiestie in all thy workes , iust in all thy iudgements , yet most of all wonderfull in thy Christ : Since now it hath beene thy blessed will to send vnto thy poore distressed seruants this weake helpe , how to know , shunne , and iudge of thy wrath : Be graciously pleased also by the bowels of all thy tender mercies in thy Christ , to giue a blessing vnto the same , accompanying it with the powerfull working of thy meruailous Spirit : that thereby it may bee able to minister a word in due time to their wearie soules , effecting that for which thou hast sent it . And for the glory of thy Names sake , so remoue thou the darkenesse , blindnesse , ignorance , obstinacie and terrours of their minde , eyes , vnderstanding , will , and conscience ; that the abused powers of their soules , may no more bee stayed by any deluding fancies , from effecting their proper functions : To effect which , O be pleased thou boundlesse bottomlesse Ocean of mercie , for Iesus sake to remoue from before them that vaile which is drawne before , and spread ouer all flesh , that they may see and iudge of things inuisible : thus attaining to haue a good conceite of thee their most gracious and louing God. O , since all Nations are as nothing before thee , and in that they are , it is because thou callest things that are not , as though they were , ( thus causing them to be ) therfore but cal thou them , which in their owne eyes and feeling are not , and they shall presently be somewhat : for so long as their abused fancies present thee vnto them as their enemie , perswading themselues not to belong vnto thy decree , what can they doe but runne away from thee ? Therefore for thy mercies sake in redemption , passe thou by all their transgressions , onely looking through the all-sufficient merits of thy well-beloued Sonne vpon them , that thus their sins may not stay thy mercies . And giue them willing hearts to come vnto the place where thy honor dwelleth : that in thy good time the means may so soften their hard hearts ( by thy mighty assisting power ) that they may attaine vnto the Spirit of mourning and compassion , thus teaching them to lay hold vpon Christ ( that Altar of refuge ) for their life . And since Faith and Repentance are thy gift ; giue vnto them these graces for thy Christs sake , that so confessing their sinnes , they may call vnto thee for mercie , thy mercie by repentance ; thus giuing them assurance of remission of sinnes , that so remission of sinnes may giue them assurance of saluation . And for those who lye now as thunder-beaten vnder the terrour of thy wrath : O looke vpon them also in the multitude of tender compassion : heare them now speedily , when their spirit faileth , put their teares in thy bottle , and secretly comfort them with thy choice consolations , giuing them a liuely hope in expectation of their ioyfull deliuerance . In the meane time perswade their soules that they are thine , that furie is not in thee , that all these things shall worke together for the best vnto them . And , good Lord , so temper thou the seueritie of thy iustice and terrors of their consciences , that as thou castest them downe with the one hand , so thou wouldest raise & hold them vp by the other : as thou shewest vnto them the threatnings due vnto their sinnes ( and thereby the exacting rigour of thy iustice ) so open their eyes to see thy manifold free promises in Christ Iesus ; that they may apply the merits and vertue of his obedience , death , passion and blood , vnto their trembling soules . Oh , as thou art mighty to saue , so shew thy mighty power in confounding all their enemies ; in wrath remembring mercie . And grant vnto them for thy Christs sake , grace to be truely humbled vnder thy mighty hand , and draw neere vnto thee , that thou mayest raise them vp in thy good time : Vntill which time , giue them patience , hope , faith in thy promises , the Spirit of prayer , many comforters ; and in the multitude of thy exceeding mercies , accept of their faint and weake grones , sighes , desires , wishes and prayers , giuing a blessing vnto all their endeauours . And good Lord , of thy most exceeding rich mercies , for Christs sake , confound Sathan and all his suggestions in any of these thy children , by thy mighty and vnresistable power : & though thou suffer him to tempt , yet let him neuer ouercome them . But discouer thou the Tempter in his colours , that so ( discerning him to be the Father of liars ) they may no more beleeue his suggestions . And teach them all so to beleeue thee in thy word ( vsing the meanes of their saluation ) that in thy goodtime , they may finde peace of conscience , and ioy in the holy Ghost . And good Lord , because , if thou present thy selfe vnto them as a consuming fire , no creature dare approach the mount of thy Holinesse : O put off thy glittering sword for a while , and arme thee with all thy attributes of mercie , that so these poore soules may with boldnesse drawe neere vnto thy Throne , so confessing their miserie , and giuing thee praise of thy glorie , that thou mayest restore vnto them their peace . And blessed Lord , although thou come not vntill the fourth watch , yet come at last , and suffer them neuer to depart this life , vntill thou say vnto their soules , that thou art their euerlasting saluation . And in the meane time , although thou come not so soone as they call : yet vntill thou come , ( least Sathan deceiue them ) ouerthrow , aiminish , and delay all his fiery temptations , that euen by this they may know thou fauourest them , because this their enemy doth not triumph against them . And when thy good ti●● shall bee , though now ( in their sight sense and feeling ) thou seeme to teare and rend the mountaines before thee , in such terror , as though thou eyther wert bent to destroy , or hadst neuer loued them : yet appeare thou ( for thy Christs sake ) at last in that still and soft voyce , wherein thou vsest to speake peace vnto thy children : so comforting them according to the dayes , wherein thou had afflicted them : that thus both the one and the other ( yea all of them ) may glorifie thy great name much more , by their conuersion and consolation , then euer formerly they dishonored thee , in the time of their sinnes , temptations , and former ignorance ; And that onely for Iesus Christs sake thy deare Sonne , in whom alone thou art well pleased : To whom with thee and thy blessed spirit , be all honour , glory , power , prayse , might , and dominion , world without end , for euer and euer , Amen . Notes, typically marginal, from the original text Notes for div A02762-e4490 Psal . 14.1 Isa . 28.15 Isa . 59.15 . psal . 73.12.13.14 . 1. Cor. 2.14 . 1. Cor. 2.14 . Iob. 15. &c. Iob. 20.5.6 . Iob. 21.16 . &c. 30. Rom. 1.4 . 2. Cor. 5.3 . Ioh. 5.44 . Ioh. 15.5 . Rom. 1.28 2. Cor. 3.5 Psal . 58.11 . Heb. 11.6 Gen. 1.1 . psal . 1.24 . Psal . 119 69.101.103 . Psal . 107.20 . Psal . 119.50 . Ierem. 23.29 . 2. Cor. 10 4. Heb. 4.12 Psal . 19.7.8 . Ioh. 8.44 . Psal . 119.99 . Pro. 1.23.24.25 . &c. Deut. 28 64.65.66 67. Isa . 49.6 . Isa . 7. and 11. and 5● 2. Thes . 7.8 . &c. Mat. 11.13 . Ezek. 36.26 . Ier. 32.40 . Gen. 48.3 . 1. King. 2.2.3 . &c. Ioh. 4.24 . Rom. 1.20 Psa . 139.6 Isay . 66.1 Gen. 15.1 Leui. 19.2 Deut. 6.4 Matt. 28.19 . Gal. 4.8 . Exo. 3.14 Reuel . 1.8 Rom. 9.22 23. Eph. 2.4 . 5. Tit. 33.4.5 . &c. Gen. 2.18 . Ezek. 18.4 . Rom. 4.15 . 1. Ioh. 5.4 Rom. 6.23 Gen. 2.17 Rom 1.18 . & 2.8.9 . Isa . 27.4 . Ioh. 3.36 Rom. 1.18 Hos . 11.9 Isa . 64.5 Ephes . 2.3 Rom. 3.23 Psal . 5.4 . 2. Sam. 14 15. 1. Thes . 1.10 . Isa . 53. 1. Cor. 11.31 . Deut. 9.19 . Deu. 3.26 Mic. 7.9 . Rom. 9.14 Psa . 78.49 . Reuel . 14.10.11 . Psal . 2.12 Psa . 49.7.8 . Psa . 49.7 . and 15. 1. Iohn 3.16 . Reu. 19.15 . Reu. 5.9 . Psal . 110.12 . 2. Pet. 2.4 Iud. 6. Gen. 3.17 18.19 . Gen. 6. 16. Gen. 19.24 . Isa . 53.5.6 . Mat. 25.4 . Nah. 2.3.4.5.6 . Deut. 32.39.40 . Deut. 29.19.20 . Heb. 3.12 13. Heb. 10.31 . Ier. 10.11 Zec. 7.11.12.13 . Leuit. 26 19.20 . & 26. Hag. 1.6 . psa . 78.32.33 . Rom. 1.28 . Deut. 28.23.24 . Deut. 28.22.26.27 Ibid. 66.67 . Matt. 10.18 . Hos . 7.9 Ier. 5.3 . 2. The. 1.9 Eph. 2.1 . Isa . 11.6 . 2. Tim. 3.1.2 . Re. 1.30 . Deut. 9.29 . Ier. 32.39 . Ezec. 36.26.27 . Isa . 43.9.11.12 . Matth. 20 5.6 . Isa . 43.9.11.12 . Eph. 5.13 Mic. 7.8.9 . 2. Chr. 33 Da. 4.34 . Act. 9.3.5 6. Mar. 16.9 . Rom. 6.16 . 2. Tim. 2.26 . Iudg. 12.6 . Isa . 58.10 11.12 . Psal . 116 11. Act. 16.16 . Mat. 9.24 . Rom. 11.29 . Diuision . Psal . 38.2 and 77.2.3 . &c. Psal . 51.4 . Ibid. v. 11 Ibid. v. 12. Io. ca. 2.4 . Psal . 77.2 & 38.17 21. Psal . 32.5 . and 66. Psal . 6.9 . Psal . 94.18.19 . Pro. 22.3 . Psal . 7.119.49.50 . Iohn 3.14 15. Hos . 2.14 . Act. 16.14.15 . Act. 8.39 . Act. 2.37.38 . &c. Act. 9.9.19 . 1. Pet. 1.8 . Isa . 63.17 Psa . 31.22 . Psal 77.5 6.10 . Psal . 42.1.2.3 . Psal . 30.7 Psa . 42.11 . Psal . 42.9 . Rom. 8.26 . Consolation for such , who ( as they think ) are not able to serue God in Spirit and Trueth . Rom. 7.21 Psa . 73.25 . Isa 8.17 . Psal . 16.9 and 40.1 . Lam. 3.26 . Cant. 1.3 . Psal . 121.1.2 . Cant. 3.4 . Cant. 3.4 . Psal . 142.3.4 . Psal . 143.6.7 . Why God at first , will not be found in the means . Psa . 77.7 . Isa . 38.27 Ezek. 36.22 . 1. Sam. 1.10.11.19 Iob. 42.7 . Lam. 2.31 32. Iere. 3.12 Psa 42.11 . Mic. 7.8.9 . Psal . 37. Psal . 27.13.14 . Hab. 3.2 . Iob. 13.15 . Isa . 28.16 . Isa . 54.7 . Ier. 31.37 3. Who they are who feele no Wrath , yet remaine vnder the Wrath of God. Rom. 7 9. Iud. 10. 2. Tim. 3.5 The seuerall conditions of this estate . Eph. 2.12 1. Cor. 15 34. 2. Thes . 1.8 . Heb. 6.4 5 , 6. Eph. 4.18 19. Rom. 1.28 . How farre a Professor may be vnder this Wrath. 2. Pet. 2.21 . Luc. 8 13. and 1. Cor. 13.2.13.2 . Math. 27 4. Numb . 23 ●0 . Matt. 19. ●6 . Heb. 6.4 . Mar. 6.20 . Rom. 2.15 . & 3.20 . 1. Cor. 13.2 . Isa . 29.13 1. Cor. 8.1 Iam. 2.19 Gal. 2.20 . 2. Cor. 7.10 . Gen. 4.13 . Numb . 23 10. Ioh. 5.35 . Iud. 19. 2. Tim. 3.55 . Ioh. 4.16.17 . 1. Tim. 3.5 . Mark. 6.29 . Mar. 7.6.7.8.9 . 1 Cor. 1.4 37. Psal . 119.97 . Psa . 40.8 . Rom. 7.15.22.23.24 Psal . 119.5 . Isa . 1.9 . Ion. 2.4 . Pro. 1.23 . Matth. 5.6 . Isa . 30.18 . Isa . 4.3 . Rom 5.1 . Eph. 2.8 . Act. 20. ●1 . ● . Tit. 2 5. and 2 8. Heb. 10. ● Rom. 4.25 Col. 2.3.9 Act. 15.11 . Io. 21.19 . 1. pet . 1.8 . Psal . 42.1 2. Psal . 51.12 . 2. Cor. 7.10 . Phil. 2.13 . Psal . 31.4 Zach. 12.10 . Psa . 31.11 . Psa . 30.10 . Psa . 31.7.8 . Psa . 38.4.5.6 . Psa . 88.31 . Psa . 22.1.2 . Psal . 51.3 Psa . 32.3 . Psal . 77.5 Psa . 42.5 . Ps . 66.10.11.12 . Ps . 42.1.2 . Psa . 84.2 . Psa . 63.1.2 . Rom. 4 18 Psal . 119.1.147 . Numb . 23 19. Lam. 3.21 Phil. 1.6 . Eph. 2.1.2.3 . Rom. 3.21 23.24 . Gen. 25.32 . Num. 23.10 . Psal . 63.6 . Eph. 3.16.17 . Phil. 3.21 . Psal . 73.25 . Psal . 116.1 . Rom. 7.24 . Phil. 1.21 23. Rom. 8.16 Rom. 14.7 . 1. Cor. 2.0 . Psa . 13.24.25 . Psa . 31.19 . Psa 36.7.8.9 . Psa . 52.35 . Psa . 63.3 . Psa . 88.14 . Ezek 30.31 . Act. 2.37 . Zech. 12.10 . Ier. 31.9 . Eze. ibid. Eze. 20.43 . Psa . 51.1.2 . Rom. 7.24 . Psa . 42.1 . Psa . 116.1 . Isa . 29.9 . Heb. 2.1 Psal . 119.37 . Psal . 39.1 Gen. 6.5 . Ier. 17.9 . Psal . 32.3.4 . 2. Cor. 7.11 . Ier. 14.30 . Rom. 7.14 Psal . 51.22 . Ibid. ver 9 Cant. 1.4 . Ier. 14.22 Mic. 7.8.9 . Psa . 77.9.10 . Isa . 8.47 . Psa . 44.17.18.19 . La. 3.26.32.33 . Rom. 7.19 Psa . 116.1 . Psal . 139.21 . Psa . 51.19 . 1. Thes . 2.16 . Gen. 4.4.13 . Mat. 27.4 . Isa . 48.22 . Heb. 12.29 . Mat. 25.41 . Gen. 4.13 Isa . 30.33 1. King. 21 27. Heb. 10.31 . Mar. 9.45.46 . Luke 16.24 . Matt. 27.5 . 1. Sam. 28 15. Gen. 4.14 Pro. 28.1 . Heb. 12.16 . Rom. 2.5 . Heb. 3.12 Eph. 4.19 Gen. 4.13 Mat. 22.13 . Reuel . ● . 10 . Gen. 4.24 Matt. 27.5 . Psal . 38.3 Psal . 31.4 . Psal . 51.7 Psa . 119.49 . Gal. 6.14 Phil. 3.8 . Psal . 71.14.15 . Rom. 7.18.23.24 . Psal . 22.1 . Psal . 88.4 5. Ps . 40.2 . Psa 38.4 . Psa 55.4.5 . Psal . 88.15 . Ioh. 3.5 . Psal . 51. Luc. 15.18 . 2. Cor. 7.11 . Rom. 4.18 Isa . 8.17 . Psa . 119. ●2 . Psal . 37.4 Psal . 51.4 Psal . 104 29. Psal . 119.71 . Why nouices in Christianitie haue much feeling . Psa . 77.7 , 8 , 9. Psal . 92.13.14 . Psal . 44.17.18.19 20. Psa . 86 . 1● . Luke 12.19 . Cant. 5.6 . 2. Cor. 5.7 Heb. 12.5 Heb. 5.13 Matth. 15 22. Psa . 116.1 . Heb. 5.14 Exod 32.11.12 . & 32.12 . Psal . 40.10.11.12 . Psa . 31.22 . Mat. 9. & 15.23 . 1. Cor. 9.27 . Psa . 71.14 . Iob 13.15 Iob 19.23 24.25 . 2. Cor. 5.7 Psa . 36.3 . Rom. 8.24 25. Math. 16 18. Iob 29.24 . Mat. 9.13 . Mat. 11.28 . Reu. 22.17 . Isa . 1.18 . Ezek. 33.11 . Matt. 12.20 . Isa . 61.1 . Mat. 10.20 . Isa . 61.1 . Luk. 15.4.23 . Phil. 3.9 . Eph. 2.1 . Rom. 9.33 . Rom. 8.1 . Psa . 61.2 . Psa . 27.5 . Psal . 32.7 Ioh. 20.29 L● . 3.24.25.26.27 31.32 . Ioh. 3.33 . and 14.6 . Iosh . 23.4 . 2. Tim. 1.12 . Isa . 43.10 11.12 . Isa . 40.13 25.26.27 28. Ier. 3.31.32 . Gal. 3.28 . Rom. 3.23 24. 1. Tim. 1.15 . Eph. 2.1 . Isa . 40.31 Psa . 1 38.7 . 1. Tim. 1.13 . Matt. 9.13 . ●am . 4.5 and 5.8.2 . Is . 53.4.5 Mat. 11.28 . Phil. 3.9 . Isa . 55.8.9.1 Psa 8.47.8.9 . Eph. 3.20 Act. 9.3 . Mat. 5.18 . Luk ● . 54 Ioh. 3.33 . Rom. 3.4 . Heb. 10.23 . Isa . 33.6.7.8.11 . Isa . 59.16.7 . Isa . 63.5 . Rom. 10.9 Eph. 5.8 . Act. 26.18 . Act. 2.37 &c. Rom. 5.5 . 1. Pet. 1.8 . Phil. 4.7 . 1. Cor. 2.9.10 . Eph. 21. and 5.8 . Act. 2.37 Deut. 28.65.66 . Act. 2.37 . Eph. 5.13 . Phil. 3.6 . Rom. 7.9 . Eph. 2.1 . Rom. 1. Rom. 8.26 Isa . 33.14 Gen. 4.13.14 . Isa . 63.17 Psa . 51.10 . Gal. 3.17 . Isa . 61.10 Isa . 42.3 . Mat. 5.6 Isa . 38.14 Rom. 8.28 phil . 4.07 . ps . 40.1.2 . 1. Cor. 11.12 . Math. 5.3 Mat. 13.16 . Luc. 10.24 . Mic. 7.9 . Hes . 14.8 . Isa . 42.3 . Rom. 8.36 Iohn 3.16 Eph. 2.4 . Rom. 8.1 . and 17. 1. Cor 2.19 . Isay . 54.7.8 . Lam. 3.18 Isa 63.17 . 1. Sam. 27 1. Psa . 31.22 . Rom. 8.28 Mat. 10.30 . Isa . 54.7.8 . Exod. 34.6 . 2. King. 6.33 . Deut. 8.3 16. Iam. 1.2 Psal . 40.19 . Cant. 3.1.2 . Psal . 10.1 Psal . 42 Psa . 84. ● . Isa . 8.17 . Isa . 25.9 . Hab. 2.3 . 2. Cor. 12 1.2 . Reu. 1.10 . Act. 10.3 . Act. 4.31 . Act. 16.29.30 . 2. Cor. 12.9 . Ier. 17.7 . Mic. 7.8.9 . Psal . 77.3 Lam. 3.15 . Psal . 77.5 1. Sam. 7.6 . Hos . 6.1.2 . Lam. 1.22 . Psal . 4.1 . Isa . 63.17 Lam. 1.18 . Lam. 1.13 . Ibid. 1.16 . and 5.17.18.19 . Psa . 51.3 Lam. 3.39 . Heb. 12.1 Iud. 23. Psa . 116.1 . Psa . 51.5 Ezek. 36.31 . & 20.43 . Cant. 3.4 . 1. Cor. 13.14 . Psal . 51.13 . Phil. 1.23 2. Cor. 5. 1. Cor. 13.126 . Psal . 32.3 Psa . 38.3 . Psa . 63.17 Psa . 61.20 . Psal . 77.5 6. Psal . 51.10 . Phil. 1.23 Psal . 119.136 . Psa . 27.8 . 1. Ioh 4.19 . Rom. 5.5 . Ier. 32.40 1. Cor. 6.10.11 . Eph. 2.3 . Tit. 3.3 . 2. Chr. 33 9.10 . &c. Psal . 51.10.11 . Iob 3.11.12 . Iob 6.4.9 . psa . 40.12 . 1. Kin. 11.4.5.6.7.8 Psa . 32.4 . Psa . 38.3.4.5 . Psa . 88.7.16 . Lam 3.8 . Psa . 88.15 . Psa . 77.8.9 . Iob. 16 . 7.8.9.10.1● 12. &c. Isa . 63.17 Reu. 2.4 . Reu. 3.15 . Reu. 2.4.5 Mat. 26.7 . Iam. 1.14 . Psal . 32.3 4. Heb. 4.12 13. Heb. 3.12 Heb. 3.12 15. hs . 32.9 . Heb. 5.13 . 2. Sam. 12.11 . 2. Sam. 11.11.4 . Ge. 19.23 Gen. 9.21 Matt. 26.70 . Gen. 4● . 15 . A discouery of the sin against the holy Ghost . Matt. 12.31 . Marke . 3.29 . Lu. 12.10 Heb. 6.4 . Heb. 10.20 . 1. Ioh. 3.16 . Matt. 11.31 . Ma. 3.23 Mat. 9.3 . Mat. 12.32 . 1. Tim. 1.13 . Luk. 12.10 . Heb. 6.4 . Hb. 20.6 Note . 1. Ioh. 5.16 . Heb. 10.28.29 . Note . Iob. 6.70 . 2. Tim. 1. 2. Thess . 2. Note . Heb. 6. Note . 2. King. 21.1 . Ios . Ant. lib. 10. cap 1. Eph. 4.29 30. Rom. 7.22.23 . Rom. 7.7 . 1. Thes . 5.22 . Iude. 23. Gen. 3.3 . & 39.10 . Rom. 7.24.25 . Psal . 51 . 10.11.1● . Reu. 3.1.2.3.4 . Reu. 3.15 16.19 . Ep. 4.30 . Gal. 5.17 Pro. 4.23 . Matt. 15.19 . Gen. 6 5. Rom. 2.15 Esa . 30.21 . Gal. 2.13 Isa . 39. ● 6. 1. Chr. 2 1. 1. Cor. 10 12. Gen. 42.21.22 . 2. Chr. 34 27.28 . Ier. 31.18 19. Ezek. 36.31 . Psal . 88.2 3.4.5.6.7 8. Psal 88.15.16 . Psal . 3.4 . Psa 71.9 . Psal . 143.7 . Psal . 51.11 . Iob. 39.37.38 . and 42.6 . Gen. 42.22 . Ier. 31.18 19. Ezek. 36.31 . Za. 12.10 11.12 . Psal . 143.8.9.10.11 . Heb. 4.16 . Rom. 8.15 . Gal. 4.5.6 Psa . 116.1.2.3.4.5 6. &c. Iob. 42.6 . Iob. 31.1 . Heb. 12.1 Rom. 7.25 . Lu. 22.31 2. Co. 2.11 Rom. 7.13 2. Pet. 5.8 Psal . 97.10 . Psal . 30.22 . La. 3.40 . Psa . 32.5 . 1. Cor. 16 13. 1. Cor. 16.13 . Rom. 7.11 Col. 3.17 . Heb. 12.1 Ps . 51.17 Rom. 7.18 19. Ion. 1.8 . Tit. 2.13 . Tit. 2.13 . Iob. 42.6 . Phil. 1.23 Rom. 7.15 Vers . 20. Vers . 19. Pro. 24.16 . Ezek. 133. Ezek. 18.21 . Luk. 17.3 Mat. 15.27 . Cant. 8 1.2 . Psal . 26.3 1. Ioh. 4.16 . Ioh. 3.16 . Ezek. 36.22 . Psal . 103.13 . Heb. 12.10 . Psal . 145.8.9 . Isa . 1.18 . Luk. 17.3.4 . 1. Tim. 1.16 . Rom. 4.23 24.