¶ The spectacle of lovers, ¶ Here after followeth a little contravers dialogue between love and council/ with many goodly arguments of good women and bad/ very compendious to all estates/ newly compiled by wyllyam walter servant unto sir Henry Marnaye knight chancellor of the duchy of Lancastre. Council. love. ¶ Here beginneth the prologue of the author. FOr as much as idleness is rote of all vices whom to eschew the wiseman doth us counsel I therefore intend with some manner of business Against the same that I might prevail Record of Phylosepher which maketh rehearsal Better it is to write and some thing for to say Than in sloth & idleness to spend the time away ¶ And thus thinking my mind for to apply To make some thing for my recreation It came to my remembrance to show and notyfy between a lover and me the great alteration Of his peteous complaint making demonstration The answers again there unto replyenge In manner of argument together disputing ¶ wherefore I require you with humble petition This my poor work to take agreeable And there as is amiss to make reformation From measure & good making which is so variable Let ignorance excuse my fault reprovable which made it not for any presumption But only for pastime and recreation ¶ Finis. IN a morning for my recreation In to the fields as I went walking To behold the ground I had delectation Arrayed with flowers fair and sweet smelling The trees budding and the birds singing Phoebus his beams shining like the gold Made my heart joy such pleasures to behold ¶ And as I was thus walking all alone By an herber I heard right suddenly A lover that piteously made his moan saying alas for sorrow I shall die Venus' dart hath wounded me so cruelly without I may my purpose soon attain For sorrow my heart will break in twain ¶ O goddess of love that hath the signory Of all creatures attend to my petition incline my lady that she do apply To my desire by thine instigation That love in her may have such operation That our two wills together may be knit For as a prisoner to her I me submit ¶ Alas how great sorrow it is and pain To live in dread alway imagining How her good grace that I might attain In thought and pensyfnesse alway desiring At a good end my purpose for to bring Thus do I live between hope and dread Sometime trusting/ and sometime not to speed ¶ when her noble person first I did behold The sovenance of her beauty my heart so embraced That my colour changed/ my blood waxed cold Love there my heart and will together interlaced So firmly that never it can be defaced But as her true lover to love her perdurable which for no chance shall be found variable ¶ Alas good lady hold me excused If I desire thee/ which I am unworthy Love had my heart so greatly abused Above all other to love you specially To my hard fortune I can no wise reply But to submit me unto your grace and will It is at your pleasure to save or to spill wherefore good lady Into your hands Love hath me brought Lose not his life In thought and care Alas sweet lady Mercy I ask with pity do intend As a prisoner Let love my care amend That loveth you so dear Ever I stand in fere Remember my great pain Do not my love disdain ¶ By her love my mind is solycyted That sleeping nor waking I am in quietness But in imaginations & thoughts greatly tormented My colour is faded/ my mind for heaviness Is greatly oppressed/ my body for weariness And lack of sustenance is so weak of nature That without her pity/ it may not long endure ¶ when that I do her beauty contemplayre Her noble virtue/ her goodly countenance who that dame nature/ hath made so passing fair Than am I surprised with her remembrance As a man that were all in a trance Inflamed with the hot brenning fire Of love/ that nothing may slake my great desire ¶ I would jesus she had the prerogative That she knew the thoughts of all creatures human Than should she know what a bitter life I lead for her/ to might she not refrain But for pity release me out of pain And by her love to comfort me restore For there is nothing that I desire so sore ¶ Alas how am I thus greatly abused That my mind to her dare not express For if she should once have me refused Alway in sorrow I should live comfortless Ones must she know my cause of heaviness Or of my purpose I shall nothing attain But thus still my fortune to complain ¶ O how great joy should my heart embrace If that my lady of her feminine pity would me accept in to her special grace That together in marriage unyed we might be Than were I brought from care to felicity well might I say my love were not in vain Sith her goodly person that I did obtain ¶ Often times I have been purposed My piteous sorrow to 〈◊〉 declare But when my love I should have disclosed Despair biddeth me for to beware Lest by disdain I were brought in care Desire my mind than greatly doth advance Of my fortune to know the final chance ¶ Thus have I lived alway languishing In variance between love/ hope and dread with pensive thoughts alway imagining Of my purpose how that I might speed And if I should be unreguardoned For the love that I to her do bear Thus am I alway put in thought and fere ¶ O cruel love O love insatiable what have I offended to be thus troubled By the cruel darts of desire intolerable which hath my heart so greatly abused with continual care to be thus tormented That at no time I am in any rest But by desire and fere alway oppressed ¶ Cursed be ye my cruel eyes twain which have perfyxed my mind so desirous That my heart in no wise can refrain But of my lady for to be amorous Ye have me wounded with pains dolorous Of sorrow and care that pierced hath my heart without her comfort my life will soon depart ¶ Consultor. ¶ when that I heard him thus piteously complain My heart for pity sorrowed inwardly And for to cause him his sorrow to refrain with words of comfort I did my mind apply For in trouble there is no better remedy Than to a friend for to disclose his sore For sorrow close kept engendereth more and more ¶ wherefore these words to him did I say why do ye thus piteously lament comfort yourself if that ye may Or else right soon ye will repent For where as sorrow on sorrow doth augment In process of time think it as no wonder But that it will pierce your heart asunder ¶ Amator. ¶ He looked on me with face pale and wan His face discovered his woeful heaviness Alas he said I am a woeful man That by love am brought in to distress I love and dare not my love to her express That hath my heart wholly in her cure Marvel it is that I may this woe endure ¶ I love a lady whose beauty doth excel Like as aurora all other stars in light Of her noble virtue the truth I can not tell Nature and fortune hath given her that might Her noble beauty hath pierced so my sight inflaming my heart by desire continual That unto love I am made bond and thrall. ¶ Consultor. ¶ Such dysordynat love/ proceedeth of idleness To behold women/ having delectation which by continuance/ doth more & more increase Encensing their minds/ by busy imagination To find the craft/ and operation To bring poor women/ in to such dotage In their love/ that they might mad and rage ¶ Some to their lovers/ tokens do send Other delight them/ in goodly apparel Some other in writing/ their lovers do commend And by false promises procure them to do ill Other lewd tales/ of ribaldry to tell And to hot meats and drinks women desire By such provocation/ to set them on a fire ¶ Thus do they daily/ and study in their mind How foolish women/ that they might abuse And if by chance/ any such they find Than for a time/ they will them haunt and use And for an other/ soon after them refuse They do not care/ how many they beguile For such mad love lasteth but a while ¶ Amator. ¶ what man is he/ that would himself abstain From beholding of so noble a creature Or what is he that would not take great pain If that he might/ to purchase such a treasure which might be most/ to his singular pleasure God never created thing/ under the firmament So noble as woman/ nor to man more convenient ¶ And where as ye say men have great delectation To disdain women by some subtle train And to be mutable of their disposition Truth it is/ true love will never stain But to be steadfast/ true/ faithful and plain Though some intend to women to do shame All true lovers of them are not to blame ¶ Consultor. ¶ True love/ nay nay/ mad love men may it call A fool is he/ he can it not deny Where he is free to make him bond and thrall In loving a woman with heart so steadfastly Which by his love in no mean can apply Yet from her love he can him not refrain Though that he knew his love spe●● in vain ¶ Such is the condition of lovers impatient That do desire/ that they may not attain Which to their degrees is not equivalent Yet by reason they can not them refrain But of their possibility to complain Of the difficulty they seek no remedy Both counsel and shame they utterly deny ¶ Amator. ¶ Why should not men love women in their mind Sith that brute beasts do love their semblable All thing is governed by nature and by kind And sith that nature in beasts is so stable Why should not a man a creature reasonable Love a woman sith nature doth him bind Would ye have men err against their kind Specta. of lo. ¶ We lovers have always such hard chance Some for to love far under their degree Or themself more greatly do advance We never be at our own liberty To have respect unto the quality Nature hath us in such subjection There to love/ where we ought not of reason ¶ Love her I will while my life shall last What so ever thereof/ here after shall ensue My heart and will shall ever be steadfast Her only to love/ as a lover true Reason nor counsel/ my mind can not subdue No shame it is to love in honest Though that she pass far above my degree ¶ Consultor. ¶ What man is so mad to love his enemy Which daily putteth him to such encumbrance That at no time he can rest quietly Nor many times take bodily sustenance But loseth his colour/ and mysspendeth his substance His credence/ his virtue and all his good name For such mad love/ wise men will him diffame ¶ such vices ensue mad lovers commonly They are suspicious and them do deadly hate That with their lovers use to company And with them often fight/ chide and debate Moche mischief ensueth/ they be infortunate Now in/ now out/ this is their condition Some lose their life/ some their wit and reason ¶ Amator. ¶ Of a noble heart proceedeth gentleness would ye have me my lover to disdain Though she be part of my great heaviness I am chief ground of my mortal pain Though I her love she can me not refrain why should I her for my misfortune blame Sith I myself am chief cause of the same ¶ It was never my purpose will nor mind By such misgovernance myself to abuse No false suspections in me shall she find For by good cause my love she might refuse If that therein I might me not excuse Though I her love/ yet will I not go mad Nor lose my life/ my wit is not so bad ¶ I marvel that ye love so despise which of heartily kindness is engendered Nature a man there unto doth entice Of mirth and pleasure it doth also proceed Friendship and charity there with all agreed rancour and malice it destroyeth utterly All thing by it doth grow and multiply ¶ Love doth quicken every man's heart It provoketh the mind to pleasure and lustiness sloth and sadness it causeth to depart Strength and manhood by it doth increase It haieth penury/ it loveth largesse Love causeth a man to have delight and pleasure with a woman to do the course of nature ¶ Consultor. ¶ For asmuch as ye he taken in the snare Therefore ye do love more greatly advance But in love there is sorrow and care It consumeth a man by space and continuance The longer ye love the more is your grievance Love brenneth them so with her cruel fire The more they take the more they do desire ¶ Their laughters been short their mournings are long Full little joy but sighs many and great In plenty of sorrow small pleasure is among Anger and trouble their hearts doth oft frete Sleeping nor waking they be in quiet In thought and desire they bren fervently Such doleful pain they suffer wilfully ¶ Amator. ¶ Love is not so as ye have made report women to men are most profitable Their words and beauty doth men great comfort Their kisses and looks are much delectable To mirth and joy they be agreeable where that woman be/ there is great solace Happy is he that may attain their grace ¶ We wilful lovers do live pleasantly To us by kind it is appropried Sometime to suffer sorrow patiently And in joy again to be exalted A thing hard won shall better be loved He that will not suffer such little pain Is not worthy such pleasure to attain ¶ Consultor. ¶ O foolish lover/ false is thy sentence To think thy pain/ to be to the pleasure For well thou dost know/ by experience That love thy reason hath made dull and obscure That will thou or not/ this pain thou must endure Love hath the made/ for to be aghast That wisdom and virtue/ is clearly from the past ¶ The lovers delight/ in sloth and sadness In stead of mirth/ ye sigh continually Despare doth oft increase your heaviness Ye be also troubled by jalousy By such means/ ye be brought in frenzy In idle thoughts/ and slombres of the night such is to you/ great pleasure and delight ¶ Amator. ¶ To see you continue in error I marvel what man is so constant/ in his living But love and nature/ shall him oft assail with womento have/ their bodily liking In age/ wisdom/ and beauty flourishing I trow none can be found in any place But that love hath/ or shall his heart embrace ¶ To behold women/ so fair and sweet of visage Their colour shining/ their membres well formed Their pretty countenance/ with hands fair & large Their eyes twynkeling/ their words well uttered Their behaviour & courtesy of kindness doth proceed What heart is so hard/ that could himself refrain To eschew their company/ or at them to disdain ¶ Consultor. ¶ O cruel youth/ fulfil thou art abused To suffer so quietly/ thy pain intolerable The flames of love/ with cold thought increased saying the pleasure/ so short and abominable Moche sorrow for small joy/ is not commendable Pondre thy pain/ and pleasure in thy mind For small joy/ soon moche sorrow thou shalt find ¶ What is beauty/ but a flower vanishing The carnal felicity/ the infection of the eye The dysceyving of the mind of men so coveting A frail pleasure full of treachery There as it is taken/ it deceiveth kindly beauty and wisdom/ seldom doth agree It causeth them unstable/ and inconstant for to be ¶ In youth their colour/ is fair and flourishing By age and sickness/ it is soon faded Where they were ruddy/ they be pale and louring Their skin in all places/ swart and wrynkeled There is nothing ought more to be mistrusted For it blindeth the eye/ with such voluptuousity That from their danger/ none escapeth free ¶ Full hard it is/ to find a woman steadfast For if one eye weep/ the other doth contrary Their troth and faith/ but a small while doth last Their pleasure and lust/ is hard to satisfy In wrath and malice/ they be continually truth/ shame/ ne love/ can not them refrain Their singular pleasure/ but that they will obtain ¶ What woman is so steadfast/ chaste and sure But for prayer/ lust or meed she will be agreeable That thou of her should have thy will and pleasure Scant one among a thousand shall be so stable Yet dread/ shame/ or wrath that one shall able Or else she is such/ the which that lacketh beauty Whom that no man desireth to company ¶ If she be a maiden that hath the in favour Will not she for small lust lose her virginity If she be a wife/ consider her error How by her craft men deceived be If she be a widow/ thou mayst plainly see How soon their husbands death that they do forget Wherefore he is not wise/ that in them trust doth set ¶ If she be an harlot/ she maketh no question Of thy manner/ wisdom/ beauty or alliance But for her reward first she maketh motion Or that thou of her shall have any dalliance Thus doth she love thee/ only for thy substance As long as ye have/ so long their love doth last Where poverty is/ all love is clearly passed ¶ Love is convenient/ to a man of sad discretion For mad lovers set little by their friends Their hearts be so take by loves provocation To dream and sigh/ and behold their seemliness To the praise of their lovers all things they do express They have eyen and see not/ and wit without reason Thus be they brought to shame and confusion ¶ Amator. ¶ If fortune be to us/ sometime contrary And that love hath put us/ to annoyance Fortune will turn/ and love will apply To them that seek it/ in space and continuance Love healeth quickly/ all sorrow and grievance All thing is pleasure/ that we lovers covet Love causeth us/ our sorrow to forget ¶ Against age/ none can make assistance If beauty fail/ should love be minished kindness and love/ would them recompense For that they have had/ for to be cherished Love seldom decayeth/ but sooner is increased The bond of wedlock/ them also doth combined Unto their death/ to be steadfast and kind ¶ Man's reason to nature doth apply For no man can have greater delectation Than with women to converse and company And with them to have carnal copulat you To sow their sweet seed of generation what better pleasure may a man covet Than children of his own seed to beget ¶ God created woman for man's pleasure without them the world could not multiply Arystotell saith/ it is the greatest pleasure Unto a man/ the thing most necessary To have a wife/ of excellent beauty courteous/ gracious/ steadfast/ wife/ and sad Were not a man happy/ that such a lover had ¶ such there be/ and many in the number If some be light/ and unstable of condition Ye ought not/ on all other for to wondre Let every for themself/ make declaration And as they have deserved/ so regard the person Full many in trouble/ steadfast proved be Suffering for their husbands/ both pain & poverty ¶ Like as the daughter/ will morn and bewail without of the mother/ she be comforted In likewise love/ can no time prevail without of gladness/ it be nourished There is no lover/ but that he is advanced Sometime in mirth/ to have delight and pleasure Or else their sorrow/ they might no while endure ¶ What causeth a man/ to love sooner apply Than a quick wit/ gentleness and good living Unto a wise man/ it is most necessary That can keep counsel/ and is sad of governing Their right and honest/ alway dyffending unkindness and shames/ they utterly defy wherefore in true love/ all nobleness dothelye ¶ Consultor. ¶ For asmuch as these words can not refrain your heart Take ensample by them/ that have been deceived And in thy mind/ prudently advert first of king david be it remembered For all his holiness/ adultery he committed with one Barsabe/ wife unto Vrye And after for her sake/ caused him to die Specta. of lo. ¶ King Solomon that all men in wisdom did excel By women was inclined unto idolatry The wife of king Acab/ called jesabel. The prophets of god caused for do die Progne's her son/ roasted full truly And gave him to Tereo/ her husband to eat Because her sister Phylomine/ with child he beget ¶ Samson the strong/ Was also betrayed By balida his leman/ in whom he had confidence Vyrgyll by a woman/ in a basket was hanged A woman road on aristotell/ with shame and violence Thus were they vanquished/ for all their science Medea/ slew her child/ like a cruel mother And gave jason one part/ and took herself the other ¶ The cities of troy/ and also of Thebes By woman's trespass/ was brought to destruction The wife of king Minos/ called Pasyphe Made a Cow of wood/ like in proportion Covered with a skin/ by which deception To fulfil her lust/ with a Bull she meddled Of whom Mynotawre/ the monster she conceived ¶ Of many other/ I could rehearse the living But for my purpose/ these do no we suffice what availed their holiness/ wisdom & cunning Or strength/ sith women can them so entice To do that thing/ that men should them despise Is not he mad/ saying the experience That will have in them/ trust or confidence ¶ Amator. ¶ I marvel that ye could speak or think the same For the trespass of few/ on all other for to rail Pretending by your words them utterly to diffame How be it your saying/ shall nothing prevail For of as many good women I shall make rehearsal The merits of whom/ are asmuch to be praised As the vices of the other/ should be dyscommended ¶ Mynerua of Athenes/ was called the gods Of her wisdom/ for her cunning and policy Carmenta of latin/ found first the letters Nycostrates also/ the letters of Italy what say you to the sybylles/ with their great prophecy Aregenes found also/ first the craft of giving Thus did they excel men/ by their wit & cunning ¶ What man can give them praising convenient which studied so busily/ to get fruitful science To provoke man's heart/ to study to be diligent who can express/ the wifely patience Of Grysell/ or of Penolype the prudence The steadfastness of Lucre's/ against her will ravished which slew herself/ after the deed published ¶ Who will not praise the faithful and true Orestyll which when she same Mercus prolancus to ship go That was her husband/ against her mind and will For his love fell down there deed for woe Elyssa/ after the death of her husband Dydo For sorrow ran/ unto the funeral fire Her body with her lords/ to burn was her desire ¶ Of Arthemesya/ Porcya/ and also Tysbe Judith/ julia/ Valerya/ and Hester Read the histories/ there shall ye plainly see from steadfast love/ they never did dissever For length of time/ their stories I differ And for their virtues/ I affirm certainly That men ought them to praise and magnify ¶ Consultor. ¶ If men considered/ the trouble and the pain That they should suffer when they be married I think they would themself soon refrain In eschewing the dannger/ that after should proceed For an heavy life/ many of them do lead which for to treat of/ in every circumstance It would ask/ a long continuance ¶ Some of them do wake/ when that they should sleep Some for their livings/ labour continually Other adventure them/ in to perils deep where they lose life/ and substance suddenly Thus do they live in dread and jeopardy Some steel or borrow/ to bear their importune charge Some hanged/ some in prison and dare not go at large ¶ Some to bring up their children/ are intentive And greatly troubled/ for their untowardness Some with their wives/ continue an heavy life As in chiding/ fighting/ and other frowardness Some by jalousy/ are put in heaviness In care/ trouble/ sorrow/ and seldom in tranquillity such is their life/ never at no certainty ¶ For if she be fair/ she shall have great resort And for her beauty she shall be much desired Few men will have pleasure or comfort To take a wife which that is dyfformed A fair wife to keep a man doth stand in great dread A foul wife to him is but little pleasure Thus is their mind neither stable nor sure ¶ Amator. ¶ Hold your peace/ your words are frustrate To allege in marriage such importunity For many men are so fortunate That never were married/ nor never shall be No man can continue always in felicity For man is predestinate by fortune's operation To live in this world in trouble and vexation ¶ If men should follow their natural disposition between beasts and them there were no difference. Wherefore for to have nature's operation By wedlock it is suffered to be without offence Otherwise to do/ is shame and inconvenience Both gods law & man's/ he offendeth grievously Wherefore no man can say/ but wedlock is necessary ¶ Better than chaste love/ what thing is to be loved Which is grounded in holiness and also in honest Friendship and affinity is thereby increased In one body together joined be Children borne in wedlock be lawful and free They be combined with bond so chartable That nothing but death can make them separable ¶ Love must be first/ or they be married For by the bond of love marriage is consecrate There ought nothing/ more to be commended Than love that with charity/ and peace is confyderate For there as is love/ there seldom is debate And if among lovers/ happen any variance Seldom it is seen of any long continuance ¶ It is long of their husbands/ if they do not well wherefore ye do now/ accuse them wrongfully To follow their minds/ men may them compel But women can not to theirs apply what cause hath a man to be than in jealousy For if any trouble be/ anger or variance women bear the brunt/ and suffer the penance ¶ What pleasure it is for a man to take a foul wife without her virtue be the more acceptable Full often he shall be weary of his life A fair wife to him/ shall be more agreeable As good and as kind/ and as much profitable Folly it is/ to have them mistrusted For ill they may be/ if they be so disposed ¶ Consultor. ¶ When broom bear apples/ or homlockes' honey Than trust the words of women/ and steadfastness That nature hath given them/ no man can deny It is their proprytees/ to be full of dysceytfulnes To weep and spin/ and hide no secretness To lie and flatter/ such conditions they have Few other good propryte●s/ god unto them gave ¶ Beware of women/ for they be fraudulent Their words are venom/ mingled with honey Thou knowest her saying/ thou knowest not her intent A fool is he/ that in them doth affy Tell them thy council/ and they will it dyscrye imperfect/ deceitful/ and full of mutability such is their kind/ nature and property ¶ Women can look on men/ with face double For in their hearts/ they be full variable Their feigned love/ hath put many men to trouble Which have supposed them/ to be farm and stable By blandishing words/ their bait detestable Like the scorpion/ that showeth the face smiling And with the tail/ suddenly doth sting. ¶ Amator. ¶ Fie fie for shame/ ye do rail in your sentence them so to dispraise/ it is not commendable Sith they bebounde/ by virtue of obedience To obey their husbands/ & to them to be serviceable Not as a servant/ but by love chartable And as a friend/ to be to them steadfast In word and deed/ while that their lives last ¶ Why do ye despise women/ so shamefully Sith that in these offence/ that men be more infect what is he that justly can deny In none of them/ that he may be detect Some women in wisdom/ have better circumspect Than some have/ with wisdom and providence To eschew such shame/ and inconvenience ¶ To have a friend/ it is a singular pleasure who can have a better/ than his wedded wife For she can do to him no displeasure Sith she is partner/ of all his sorrow and strife with him she must continue all her life And to her power to help them at their need For of their husbands they stand in fere and dread ¶ Women be full of pity and compassion Their merits can not be to much praised Love is in them/ by nature and complexion Of heartily kindness/ to men so perfyxed In wealth and woe it is not minished All pain and trouble/ they take agreeable That might for us be good and profitable ¶ Consultor. ¶ Now adays old women/ and young go strangely Like comen women/ their apparel is disguised To provoke young hearts/ their desires to apply Their here dysplayed/ their faces painted Their gowns low collered/ their breasts enhanced such venom they proffer/ though it be not acceptable yet is their intent/ approved damnable ¶ Thus few of them/ do regard their honest And follow their pleasure/ and sensual delectation For at feasts and esbatementes there will they be where young people resort/ for their recreation which are disposed/ by natural inclination To talk and dally/ and busily to procure To provoke them to apply to their disordynat pleasure ¶ All thing that youth and courage can delight At such feasts as is prepared commonly Their minds to solace and pleasure to excite As good meats & drinks/ merry talking & mynstralsy Dancing and singing/ and jests of ribaldry Which bringeth women to such perplexity That they forget both shame and honest ¶ O what great mischief ensued and adversity For that queen Helyn by coloured devotion Went to Venus' temple there Paris was for to see And the other trojans making their oblation To see the experience she had delectation If his beauty were as it was reported Where by her argument after she was ravished Under such colour they used their haunts damnable To be new fangled it is their property And blasyngly to show their beauty delectable And to be prompt in speaking such is their felicity By such means they break their wedlock & chastity For the ship should never by tempest spill If in the haven it continued still ¶ When ye have a wife keep her from liberty▪ On her do not dote nor be not to tender For by such means she will have such felicity That of the she will not stand in any fere To moche famylyaryte/ disdain doth engender Without dread be/ love they soon forget Love and dread together ill purpose doth let Specta. of lo. ¶ Amator ¶ Why should not women unto feasts resort One friend with another I think ordinate To pass the time with honest game and sport For to be solitary▪ the mind is fatigate To be in company/ the mind is recreate Ill thoughts and humours/ engendereth of idleness It shorteth the life with sloth and heaviness ¶ Too were such apparel/ it is the guise compnly From the comen usage they may them not refrain Their husbands pleasures for to satisfy To were new fations they must be glad and fain Or as an abject they will at them disdain And as unworldly they shall be else reprobate Not regarding their honest and estate ¶ To go on pilgrimage it is meritorious For god would be worshipped in many a sundry place Both to body and soul it is commodious For by it the soul purchaseth pardon and grace It feebleth the body by continuance and space Their hearts to more devotion doth incline Wherefore at their doing men ought not to repine ¶ To keep their wedlock they have great diligence If they break wedlock they live in worldly shame To god they make an heavy offence Their husbands honesty they utterly diffame Wrong heirs inherit by their importune blame With peaaunce they may their sins purify But the trespass and slander they can never remedy ¶ Full little a man/ regardeth his honest If he keep his wife/ in such subjection That seldom she should have any liberty with her friends to have recreation To keep them to strait/ it is a provocation To cause a good woman/ her husband for to hate For if she be ill/ nothing can her abate ¶ Consultor. ¶ women be likened/ to the Chymer of Thesayle Having the similitude/ or heed of a lion The body of a Goat/ the last part or tail Unto a Chure/ a venomous Dragon To this monster/ by their disposition They be likened/ by the poets feigning For. iij. principal vices in them most reigning ¶ first they do look/ with a lions countenance To have pre-eminence/ they desire utterly And that men should them/ in every place advance And to them do service/ pleasure or courtesy They frete in their hearts/ for dysdaynt and envy If they see any better/ than they be appareled Or better taken/ or more to be commended ¶ The second to a Goat/ for sin & vycyousnesse They be likened/ and to the see swallowing A man shall never find them out of readiness How moche he will do/ he shall have no denying But alway more and more/ they be coveting And for as much/ as one cannot suffice their appetite To have help of many/ some of them delight ¶ The. iij. they be likened/ to a dragon venomous For their beys tongues/ that alway talk and clatter If they be disposed/ than be they so fumous That they care not what they say or who they slander Moche grudge and quareling mischief and danger Ensueth by their tongues serpentine which are so double that they can bite and whine ¶ Amator. ¶ To dispraise women it can not you prevail Their good names by you can not be impaired It becometh no man on them so to rail Though some have done amiss all have not offended For one woman's trespass should all be dyscommended No man will repute your saying reasonable To allege on them such vices detestable ¶ Men give them pre-eminence by custom & courtesy Though that women would they can it not refrain Their duties they must use and occupy Not by no pride such custom they do use They are not so ignorant themself so to abuse Nor to disdain any that them doth excel In beauty substance or good apparel ¶ The Philosopher saith it is expedient The gentle to be of greater strength and virtue The patient in nature more feeble and impotent For if they were equal than might they not subdue The one the other nor no fruit should ensue wherefore the oldest man is of more hotter kind Than the hottest woman that ●ny man can find ¶ Why should not women/ of their tongues be rise To plead their causes/ their truth to veryfy They have none other armour dyffensyfe Their power is to feeble/ their wrongs to iustyfy To speak nor to do/ none can live so patiently Though that they chide/ their anger is soon past Their words of wind/ is lyckened to ablast ¶ Ten months/ women with their children go And of their bodies/ that time be they nourished with pangs and stitches/ they suffer pain and woe In peril of death/ when they be delivered with their milk after/ a season they be fed Moche pain and trouble/ our mothers for us take wherefore all women/ we aught to love for their sake ¶ To make of women men should be glad and fain Sith they to us/ be so tender with diligence One man for another/ would not take the pain Their kindness we can not duly recompense To love them we have good cause/ by experience They are so much our friends in sickness & in health He that them hateth/ loveth not his wealth ¶ Consultor. ¶ We will no longer/ in these matters debate Follow my counsel/ his company eschew If ye intend your sorrow to mitigate In secret places/ do not ye continue imaginations & thoughts/ your mind will subdue wherefore such haunts/ if ye do not cease Love will in you/ more and more increase ¶ Experience by fire/ which is nigh quenched with brimstone it will be kindled soon again In likewise love/ if it be frequented wherefore from her love/ do yourself refrain find some occasion/ at her to disdain To desire her love/ be not ye to mad Except of yours/ that she would be as glad ¶ Amator. ¶ To give me such counsel/ me think ye be not wise Your sugared lips can not me beguile For if I should follow your advise My life would continue/ but a small while From her company/ I can not me exile To leave that thing/ which that I love best No reasonable man/ will make no such request ¶ Wherefore of this talking/ now let us cease Eusamples I have/ right many and excellent Their wisdom and nobleness/ for to increase But at this time/ these shall be competent Wherefore from henceforth/ leave your false argument And of women speak not so reprovable For shame it is to you/ and nothing commendable ¶ Consultor. ¶ Thus did we finish/ our communication desiring the assistance to take this agreeable And in that is amiss/ to make reformation And also all women/ I humbly them supply At this poor treatise/ for to have none envy I have nothing said/ that is to their dispraise But I have made answer/ their honour more to raise ¶ But for asmuch as some men have delectation To rail upon women and them to dyscommende I therefore intend to make demonstration Of their opprobrious words/ wherein they do offend By reasonable answers to induce them to amend Whereby they may have perfitly knowledge That women be not gyite in that they do allege ¶ Wherefore I require you consider mine intent Which made it not for malice or any despytefulnesse For if I should so do/ I were right negligent And worthy to be rebuked of shame and ungentleness Both praise and dispraise herein I do express If I deserve blame in speaking so largely I trust to have thank for replyenge the contrary ¶ lenvoy of Robert Coplande. endeavour thyself thou little book I pray To thine author and unto each degree Excusing thine impression always If to their mind it fortune not to be And where miss is/ that they will pardon me And to correct after their good intent With less or more as it is convenient. ¶ Finis. ¶ Imprinted at London in Fleetstreet at the sign of the Son by me Wynkynde word▪ W C mynhyg the word