A Brieff discourse of the troubles begun at Frankford in Germany Anno Domini 1554. Abowt● the Book off off common prayer and Ceremonies/ and continued by the English men their/ to th'end of Q. Mary's Reign/ in the which discourse/ the gentle reader shall see the very originals and beginning off all the contention that hath been/ and what was the cause off the same.  Marc. 4. 
For there is nothing hid that shall not be opened neither is there a secret but that it shall come to light/ if any man have ears to hear/ let him hear.  
M.D.LXXIIII.   

The Preface. To the Christian readers/ grace/ mercy/ and peace in Christ jesus our Lord.  
such as do well observe the variety of men's judgements about these matters of controversy/ and the supposed causes of the same/ shall find it a thing more than wonderful to behold/ and passing strange to hear. But who so shall well way and consider/ what extreme calamities and miseries this broil hath brought with it to many godly persons which unfeignedly fear god: the same must off force/ as I think (if he have but one drop of humanity within him) draw forth deep and sorrowful sighs from the heart/ and tears from the eyes. To pass over sundry I will note but this one. where as in times passed (both at Paul's cross and other places) the sounds which were wont to be so sweet as might justly have moved the godly hearers to cry out with the Prophet Esay O how beautiful are the feet of them which bring glad tidings of peace/ etc. are now become (commonly so sour and unsavoury/ that in steed of sweetness/ is found little or nothing but wormwood and bitter gall. And yet I speak not of such/ whose cruel scoffing/ and unbridled natures/ are to well known so far to exceed/ as few/ (discreet and wise in deed) can be much moved with any thing almost they either speak or writ: but even off those I mean/ whose wisdoms gravity/ and learning/ as the same claimeth by good right/ dew reverence to the persons/ because off those good gifts which God hath bestowed upon them so should it also put them in mind (especially in such places) to use (me seems) some other vein. And for so much as some impute the cause off all these troubles to the ambitious heads off certain special persons/ 
By D. young in November. Anno, 1573.  who should (as hath been at Paul's cross both publicly and very furiously declared) stir up this strife in the church for that they could not attain to Bishopprikes when as other enioned them: Some also imputing it to the strange churches aswell beionde the seas as here among us remaining/ thereby to provoke the displeasures of the Magistrates against them:  

Such as D. Elbowrome.  And some supposing/ yea roaring out) that this hath happened by such fantastical heads as can abide no platform but of their own devising: I have for these and such like considerations▪ thought good by a short and brieff discourse to let your see the very original and beginning off all this miserable contention/ leaving nevertheless to your discreet iudgmenntes/ who (in these matters) are to be thought innocent/ and who most to blame.  
And as one both off credit/ learned/ 
M. Mullin● in October. An. 1573.  and of authority/ thought is not only meet and expedient openly at paul's cross (in presence of the honourable and worshipful there) to signify unto them that such a hot contention (about these matters had been/ but also/ noted the place where and the time when: So I in this discourse/ 
Frankford the place, in Q. mary's tyme.  thought it needful/ lest happily that honourable audience might mistake the matter) to set fourth by writing the very order/ manner/ and proceeding of the same: 
Platina, Paulus ●ouius. Slede in, Fox with many other.  following herein the steps of such/ whom god of his goodness hath raised up at all times and among all nations/ to commit things to memory/ which hath passed in commonweals/ who have with great freedom and liberty been suffered to make manifest to the whole world the ill dealings even of Pope's/ cardinals/ emperors/ kings and Princes/ where as (in this discourse) the highest that I touch (and that with great grieff of heart) are (to my knowledge) but certain bishops/ and therefore I hope the more to be borne withal/ besechinge almighty god that as by these my poor simple travails/ my meaning was not (either in contempt or seeking revenge) to provoke the farther displeasures of the meanest: that so if it be his blessed will/ the same may find favour in in the eyes off our soveragine L. the queen's most excellent majesty/ and the right honourable/ whom it hath pleased him to place in high authority/ for whose prosperity and welfare it becometh all true and faithful subjects (as they are dutifully bound) most earnestly to pray.   

The history.  
AFTer that it had pleased the lord God to take away for our sins that noble prince off famous memory/ king Edward the sixth/ and had placed/ Queen Marry in his room: Sundry godly men aswell strangers/ as of the English nation/ fled/ for the liberty of their consciences/ over the seas/ some into France/ some into Flanders/ and some in to the high countries off the Empire/ and in the year of our lord. 1554. and the 27. of june came Edmonde Sutton/ William William's/ William Whittingham/ and Thomas would/ with their companies/ to the city of Frankford in Germany the first English men/ that there arrived to remain and abide. The same night came one Master Valaren pullan Minister/ unto their lodging/ and declared how he had obtained a church there/ in the name of all such as should come out of England for the Gospel/ but Especially from Glassenbury which were all french men. Answer was made him/ that as god was to be praised/ who had moved the Magistrates hearts to show the french such favour: Euenso/ for so much as few of them understood the french tongue/ it would be small commodity to them/ or to such as should come afterward to join themselves to that church.  
The next day they communed with Master Morellio another Minister of the french church/ and also with master Castalio a Senior of the same/ (both of them godly and learned men) By their advise and counsel it was determined/ that a Supplication should be drawn out/ and offered to the Magigistrats/ to know/ first whither they would be contented/ that not only the parties before named/ but also all other English men that would repair thither for the like cause/ might through their favour be suffered safely to remain within their city. This supplication was subscribed aswell by the said Sutton/ whittingam/ and the rest of the English men/ as also by Morellio/ Castallio/ and one Adrian a Cittezen there/ with whom they lodged. And within three days after the offering up of their Supplication/ they obtained their requests.  
The 8. of july following/ labour was made (by the counsel and advice of Morellio and Castalio (who during their lives showed themselves fathers to all English men) to Master john Glawberge one of the chiefest Senators/ for a place or church/ wherein they and all their country men might have gods word truly preached/ and the Sacraments sincerely ministered in their natural tongue/ who ientlie promised his furtherance/ and that he also would move the whole Senate theroff/ the which he did accordingly. And the 14. day of the same month it was granted that they should have liberty to preach and minister the Sacraments/ in that church which the french men had/ the french one day and the English an other day and upon the Sunday/ to choose also then hours as they could agreed among themselves/ but it was with this commandment/ that the English should not descent from the frenchmen in doctrine/ or ceremonies/ lest they should thereby minister occasion of offence/ and willed farther/ that before they entered their church/ they should approve and subscribe the same confession of faith/ that the french men had then presented/ and about to put in print/ to the which all the afore named (and others which were by this time come thither) did subscribe.  
When the church was in this sort granted/ they consulted among themselves/ what order off service they should use (for they were not so stricly bound/ as was told them/ to the ceremonies of the french/ by the Magistrates/ but that if the one allowed off the other it was sufficient.) At length/ the english order was perused/ and this by general consent was concluded that the answering aloud after the Minister should not be used/ the tyranny/ surplice/ and many other things also omitted/ for that in those reformed churches/ such things would seem more than strange. It was farther agreed upon/ that the Minister (in place off the English Confession should use an other/ both off more effect/ and also framed according to the state and time. And the same ended/ the people to sing a psalm in metre in a plain tune as was/ and is accustomed in the french/ dutch/ Italian/ Spanish/ and Skottishe churches/ that done/ the minister to pray for ●hassistance of gods holy spirit and so to proceed to the sermon. After the sermon/ a general prayer for all estates and for our country of England was also devised/ at th'end of which prayer/ was joined the lords prayer and a rehearsal off thartic●es off our belieff/ which ended the people to sing and other psalm as afore. Then the minister pronouncing his blessing The peace of god/ etc. or some other off like effect/ the people to depart.  
And as touching the ministration of the Sacraments sundry things were also by common consent omitted/ as superstitious and superfluous. After that the congregation had thus concluded and agreed/ and had chosen their minister and Deacons to serve for a time: they entered their church the 29. of the same month. Then was it thought good among themselves that forthwith they should advertise their country men and betherens dispersed off this singular benefit/ the like whereof could nowhere else as yet be obtained/ and to persuade 'em (all worldly respects put apart) to repair thither/ that they might altogether with one mouth and one heart both lament their foremer wickedness and also be thankful to their merciful father that had given them such a church in a strange land wherein they might hear gods word truly preached/ the Sacraments rightly ministered/ and Discipline used/ which in their own country could never be obtained. And to this effect were letters directed to Strausburgh/ Zurick/ Densbrugh/ and Emden in the 2. of August. And for that it was thought the church could not long continue in good order without discipline/ there was also a brieff form devised/ declaring the necessity/ the causes/ and the order thereof/ whereunto all those that were present subscribed/ shewing thereby that they were ready and willing to submit themselves to the same/ according to the rule prescribed in gods holy word/ at which time it was determined by the congregation that all such as should come after/ should do the like/ before they were admitted as members of that church.  
Here followeth the general letter sent from the congregation of Franckforde/ to Strausbourge/ Zurick/ Wezeil/ Emden/ etc.  
Grace mercy and peace in Christ our Lord: etc.  
We doubt not (dearly beloved) but you have hard/ aswell by letter/ as by report/ off the excellent graces and mercy which our good god and heavenly father hath showed unto our little congregation in this city of Frankford/ for that he hath not only made the Magistrates and commons very favourable towards us and loving/ but also/ hath given them hearts/ with much compassion to tender us/ in so much that every man helpeth us/ no man is against us/ much love/ no grudge/ glad to please/ loath to annoy us/ yea/ and to declare this good will not to be off the mean sort/ nor so small as our brethren have felt otherwere/ they have granted that thing/ which among others and in other cities/ we could not obtain nor durst almost hope for. For what greater treasure or sweeter comfort can a Christian man desire/ then to have a church wherein he may serve god in purity of faith/ and integrity of life/ which thing if we wish for/ let us not refuse it/ seeing where we would/ we could not there obtain it. And here yet it is granted in so ample wise/ that being subject to no blemish/ no/ nor so much as the evil of suspicion (from the which few churches are free) we may preach/ minister/ and use Discipline/ to the true setting forth of god's glory and good ensample to others. And for our parts/ we have not been negligent as touching the execution of the said benefit granted. For the 29. of july/ we had (god be thanked) ●. sermons to our singular comfort/ and great joy of all godly men here. Wherefore brethren/ seeing your have endured the pain of persecution with us/ we thought it likewise our duties to make your partakers of our consolation/ that altogether we may give thanks to our loving father/ 
Cor. 10. Phil. 2.  who is more tender over us/ then the mother over her child/ neither suffereth us to be temped above that we may bear/ but even to the issue off the tentation/ giveth prosperous success/ trusting by gods grace/ that he which hath given you that gift/ not only to believe in Christ/ but also to suffer for his sake: will so direct your hearts/ that no respect of commodity there/ nor yet fear of burden here may once move you to shrink from your vocation/ which is/ in one faith/ one ministration/ one tongue and one consent/ to serve god in his church.  
What more manifest sign/ what plainer declaration/ what word more express and lively can we have off duty and vocation/ the● when god speaketh in our hearts by faith/ guidethe us out of peril through his grace/ and now last & of all offrethe us a resting place of his exceeding mercy. You remember that before/ we have reasoned together in hope to obtain a church/ and shall we now draw back as unmindful of god's providence/ which hath procured us one free from all dregs off superstitious ceremonies?  
What/ think you/ 
Psal. 4●.  if the Prophet David had had this offer who desired to be porter in the house of God/ and more esteemed one day so spent/ then a thousand otherways.  
Either what ment he when he said: one request I demand off the Lord/ Which I will seek after/ that is/ 
Psal. 27.  that I may devil in the house of the lord all the days of my life. Had David no experience? or felt he not what grieff it was to want the congregation? And surely we must grant that he was far more perfect than we be: For he being conversant in this world/ set his delight wholly in heavenly things. And many of us/ (we speak it to our shame) as if we had already forgotten the end of our creation/ are plunged in earthly affections/ and worldly respects/ so that through our infirmities/ this excellent benefit is like to be frustrate. For/ some doubt who shallbe preferred: others seek increase off learning▪ Many follow the commodity off living certain/ look for a new vocation/ so that it is a wonder to see the deformity of man's affection's. God grant/ 
Matth. 22.  we may learn at their ensamples which being called to the marriage came not/ what it is to esteem in time the worthenes of gods benefits/ least/ by the loss of the same we after fall unto unprofitable repentance/ seeking again our loss with tears as the reprobate Esau and yet never the near. 
Mich. 3. Heb. 11.  We charge no one man (brethren) nor yet mean all/ and on what considerations these excuses were pretended/ we suspend our judgements/ referring the same to our imperfection and infirmity/ whereby the adversary ceasethe not to batter daily the walls off God's temple.  
As touching the point off prefermente/ we are persuaded thoroughly that it hath this meaning/ that every man thought of himself modestly/ humbly submitting himself to all men unablinge no man/ for so much as your know that he which seeketh ambition/ glory/ advantage or such like/ is not moved with god's spirit as witness the instructions that Christ●●ur Master gave to his disciples/ who labouring of like dis●●●e were admonished that he which did excel among them/ should abase himself to his inferior which malady S. Paul perceiving to infect like a canker/ most diligently framethe his style/ 
Philip. 1. Col. 1.  that he might not seem to prefer him self to others in the course of his ministry. And as for learning/ as we wish to all men most abundantly: so we most earnestly require/ that comparing the congregations necessity with your own private commodity/ your would rather for Christ's sake chose the better: yea/ and we assure your one good advertisement/ that thorough/ god's grace/ when we shallbe assembled together/ such order willbe taken/ that/ beside those things which our nation shallbe able to furnish/ we have the city most forward to procure others. if any would pretend the hardness of the country and charges/ our experience ma●e sufficiently satisfy them/ who having traveiled through most places/ where the gospel is preached/ have not found so many commodities nor less charges.  
Resteth the time of calling/ which we refer to your consciences/ besechinge your for Christ's sake to descend into yourselves without all partiality/ weighing the gravity of the matter which is gods/ and the silly excuse which the flesh ministrethe. Consider what god would say/ I have prepared a plentiful and ripe harvest which standeth in a readiness and waitethe for the mower and I have appointed thee thy tax. I have given instruments/ and all things fit for the labour/ if thou foreslow it/ the crop is in danger: if thou look for often warning thou declarest great negligence.  
This speech (Dearly beloved) or very like/ god used to Noah. Abraham/ jeremiah/ etc. and they thought their vocation strong. But you through God's benefit/ do not only hear god thus persuading in your hearts/ but also have been by extern calling confirmed/ and according thereunto have walked to the great glory of God and profit off the congregation. We trust therefore (brethren) and in jesus Christ require it/ that your would hide your talon no longer but having new occasion to employ it/ your would put it forth for your Master his advantage and your own discharge. For if your feel in your hearts comfort as we do which are here assembled to hear the word of god preached and the Sacrament ministered/ we assure you/ you should sensibly perceive that which the Prophet speaketh in these terms: as the heart chased pantethe for greediness of waters: 
Psal. 42.  even so/ (oh lord) my soul seeketh after thee. My soul burnethe for thirst in seeking the Lord and saith: Alas when shall I be able to appear before the face off the living god? what thing then aught we to have in greater recommendation/ then the order and policy which god hath established in his church? that we may be taught by his word/ tha● we may worship him and call upon his name with one accord/ that we may have the true use off his Sacraments to help us to the same? For these be the means whereby we must be confirmed in the faith/ in the fear of God/ in holiness of conversation/ in the contempt of the world/ and in the love of life everlasting. And for this consideration S. 
Ephes. 4.  Paul saith not that this order which the Lord hath set in his church should only be for the rude and simple/ but maketh it common to all/ excepting no man. For he hath ordained (saith he) some to be Apostles/ some/ prophets/ some Evangelists/ others/ to be teachers and instructors/ to confirm the godly and to labour to finish the building of Christ's body till we be all brought to one consent in faith to the knowledge of the son of god/ to a perfect man/ and finally/ to the just measure off a ripe Christian age. Let us all mark/ that he saith not/ that god hath left the scriptures only/ that every one should read it/ but also/ that he hath erected a policy and order/ that their should be some to teach/ and not for one day/ but all the time of our life even to the death for that is the time of our perfection. Wherefore brethren/ let us submit ourselves/ and leave off farther to tempt God/ seeing/ that if we willbe of the body of Christ/ we must obey to this general rule. Let no respect off worldly policy stay us. Let no persuasion blind us. But let us fulfil in ourselves that which Esaias forwarnethe that god's children shallbe as pigeons/ which flee by flocks in to their dove-house/ which is the place where the word of god is preached/ the sacraments ministered/ and prayer used.  
To conclude therefore (dearly beloved) let every man call his conscience to counsel/ and besides these sweet allurements/ let us learn to prevent our adversaries/ who seeking ever to obscure god's glory/ may easily cavil at this dissipation. And would to god the slander were not already to our great grieff in sundry places scattered in so much/ that in England/ many take occasion to remain in their filth. And some think they may dissemble/ until a church o● confirmed/ perceiving that this our scattering/ augmentethe the grief of persecution/ and so through our negligence we lose them for whom Christ died. Consider brethren/ it is gods 'cause/ he requireth you/ it is your duty/ necessity urgethe/ time willeth/ your father speaketh/ children must obey/ our enemies are diligent and the adversary is at hand.  
Almighty god grant for his sons sake that we may rightly ponder the ma●ter/ follow our calling/ serve ●he turn/ hear the speaker/ walk in obedience and resist our enemies. We desire you all take this in good part/ seeing we have written nothing but what charity did indite and that which we trust/ and wish you would have done to us in case like.  
From Frankford this 2. of August. 1554. Your loving brethren. 

john Stanton.  
john Makebray  
William William's.  
William Wittingham.  
William Hammon.  
Thomas Wood  
Mighell Gill.    
Shortly after/ the learned men of Strausbrough answered to this general letter before mentioned in this sort: That they had considered the contents thereof and perceived that the effect was no other but to have one or two take the chief charge and governance of the congregation. And that in case they might get. D. poinet. Master Scory. D. Bale or D. Cox/ or two of them/ they should be well furnished/ if not/ they would appoint one at Strausbrough and an other should come from Zurick to serve the turn at which time master Grindall wrote to master Scory at Emden persuading him to be superintendant of this church of Frankf. who (in 2. several letters to his private friends/ offered his service to the congregation/ but before the receit thereof the congregation had written their letters to master Knox at Geneva to master Haddon at Strausb. and master Lever at Zurick/ whom they had elected for their ministers and advertised master Scory by a general letter of the same.  
Now/ when the answer that came from Strausbrough was read/ and compared with the letter written unto them/ it did not in any point answer it▪ For the congregation wrote not particularly for any certain number/ but generally wishing all men's presence/ neither did they require to have any superintendant to take the chief charge and government/ for the choice and election thereof (if such a one had been necessary) aught to have been reserved to the congregation/ which fully determined at that time to have the church governed by 2 or 3. grave/ godly and learned Ministers off like authority/ as is accustomed in the best reformed churches.  
The ●1. off October the Students of Zurick wrote also an answer to the general letters afore said in this wise.  
The grace and peace of God the Father and off our Lord jesus Christ be with your all Amen.  
AS God by his singular providence hath wonderfully blessed us aswell in moving the hearts of the Senators and ministers here/ to lament our state/ favour and aid us in our requests: as also in giving happy success for all kind of provision to our use and behoove: So he well knoweth/ that we no other wise esteem the same then may stand with his glory/ our profession/ and the comfort off his afflicted church/ but daily labour in the knowledge of his word to th'intent that when god our merciful father shall so think good/ we may be both faithful and skilful dispensers thereof.  
And as running in the sweet race off our vocation/ ye have earnestly written unto us for to repair thither/ burtheninge us so sore with your necessity/ that ye think our shrinking back in this behalf should argue want of charity/ keep many in England still which else would willingly come forth/ and show ourselves careless of that congregation wwhose edefyinge and winning to Christ we only pretend to seek. These are great causes/ but touching us neither so truly objected/ so firmly grounded/ nor yet so aptly applied/ but that as sound reasons on our parts might fully answer the same. Yet notwithstanding/ in as much as you appeal to our consciences which in the day of the Lord shall accuse or excuse us in this thing and all other/ we will not utterly deny your requests/ but show ourselves as ready to seek gods glory and the increase off his kingdom other there or elsewhere to the uttermost of our powers/ as ever we did pretend to do/ requiring you all in the name and fear off god/ that as we/ all respects set apart and unfeignedly traveling in the necessary knowledge of Christ to the profit off his church here after/ refuse not for your needy comfort to accomplish your desires. So ye will not interrupt our studies/ urge our removing/ and bring us thither/ feeling here already the exceeding goodness of god towards us/ unless ye think/ and that before god/ that our absence on th'one part should greatly hinder/ and our presence one the other side very much further your godly attempts already begun for the furnishing off that church so happily obtained to all our comforts/ for the which in our daily prayers we give god most hearty and humble thanks. if by this doing ye give occasion to break our godly fellowship/ to hurt our studies/ to dissolve our exercises/ and utterly to evert our godly purposes/ ye have to answer even unto him which is a faithful and a just judge/ and will give to every man according to his deeds. Wherefore/ dear brethren/ in consideration that we be all not only off one nation/ but also members of one mystical body in jesus Christ our head/ and aught therefore especially in this time of exile and most worthily deserved cross by all means possible/ one to aid and comfort an other/ besechinge god for his mercy's sake to assuage his wrath/ to give us repenting hearts and patiented continuance to our brethren at home with pity to behold his vineiarde there miserably spoiled and trodden under foot/ and to call us home after his fatherly chastisement eftsoons fruitfully to work in the same: we briefly make this answer. if upon the receit here off/ ye shall without cloak or forged pretence/ But only to seek Christ advertise us by your letters/ that our being there is so needful as ye have already signified/ and that we may altogether serve and praise god as freely and as uprightly/ (whereof private letters received lately from Franckf. make us much ●o doubt) as the order last taken in the church of England permittethe and perscribethe (for we are fully determined to admit and use no other) then/ about easter next (for afore we cannot) god prospering us/ and no just cause or occasion to the contrary growing in the mean time whereby our intent may be defeated with one consent we agreed to join ourselves unto you and moste willingly to do such service there/ as our poor condition and calling doth permit. In the mean space/ we shall most entirely beseech almighty God so to assist you with his holy spirit/ that your doings may help to confound papistry/ set forth gods glory/ and show such light in the face off the world/ that boothe the wicked may be ashamed/ having no just cause of reproach/ and also our weak brethren confirmed and won to the truth.  
From Zurick this 13. of October. ●554. Your loving friends. 

Robart Horn.  
Richard Chambers.  
Thomas Lever.  
Nicholas Karuile.  
john Mulling●.  
Thomas Spencer.  
Thomas Bentham.  
William Cole.  
john Parkhuste  
Roger Kelbe.  
Robart Beaumont.  
Laurence Humphrey.  
Henry Cockrafft.  
john Pretio.    
about this time Letters were received from master Haddon Wherein he desired for divers considerations to be excused/ for coming to take the charge upon him at Frankford.  
The 24. of October came master Whithea● to Frankford/ and at the request of the congregation/ he took the charge for a time/ and preached upon the Epistle to the Romans.  
about the 4. of November came Master Ch●mbres to Frankford with letters from Zurick which were partly an answer to an other letter written unto them from Franckforde the 26. of September/ which was as followithe.  
Grace mercy and peace, etc.  
AFter/ long hope off Your answer to our letter/ we thought it good to put you once again in remembraunc. And as we in our former/ so now in these also in gods behalff most earnestly require you deeply to way this matter off gods calling/ and the necessity of this congregation We ha●e thoroughly learned your estate and also made you privy to ours▪ and eftsonnes/ wish we might be together to bewail our sins passed/ to pray together for our poor brethren that are under Antechristes' captivity/ to comfort/ instruct/ and profit one an other. And finally to bestow the time of our persecution together and redeem these days which are so evil. And if any desire of knowledge stay you/ certainly/ it would not be so little increased here that you should justly repent. For as touching the company off learned men (as you cannot bear be without) so/ that thing which chief your can require of learned men's judgements and knowledge out of their works/ your may suck most plentifully whereof with us you can lake no store We need not/ brethren/ to make long discouse in reasoning▪ for we partly know that god's spirit/ which worketh in your hearts shall prevail with you more/ than disputing/ not dowtinge/ but the same holy spirit knocketh at the door of your consciences not only to move you of our behalffs/ but to admonish you/ to avoid the inconveniences of talks/ and the offences of our poor brethren of England/ whose marueilinge cannot otherwise be satisfied. Remember therefore (dearly beloved) that we write as brethren/ to our dear brethren/ who altogether seek our father's honour/ our own discharge and the comfort off our afflicted country men.  
The same sweet father grant for his Christ's sake that we may assemble together/ to the building off this his Temple/ to let the false workmen/ and underminers/ and diligently in our vocation to help to the furnishing off the same till it rise to perfection. F●● ye well in Christ.  
From Frankford this 16. of Septemb. 1●54. Your loving friends: as in the letter afore so under this subscribed.  
The answer to them off Frankford was/ as followeth.  
WE being placed here in quietness/ with many and great commodities for our studies tending all to edification of Christ's church/ have/ unto the earnest requests off your letters unto us/ answered in our letters v●to you/ that to discharge all duty in conscience/ and to increase and instruct your congregation at Frankford with our presence and diligence wilt no● deny to remove from hence unto you/ so that you charged off conscience do constantly affirm/ that ye have so great need of us as by letters was signified/ and certainly assure us that we with you may and shall use the same order of service concerning religion which was in England last set forth by king Edward. And now also for the better understanding off such requests and charitable performance of dewt●e/ upon both parts desired and procured Ma●ster Richard Chambers our best friend/ a man most charitable and careful for the Christian congregation/ to take pains to travel unto you and wi●he you for us: so that this matter as it is begun and moved in writings may be fully debated and concluded by his faithful means and diligence. For we be all agreed and do purpose to allow and perform what so ever he shall say and promise in our names unto you. Wherefore/ we beseech you in God's name conscionably to consider the estate and condition both of you and us/ and if there upon you conclude with the said master Chambers of our coming unto you/ then let him not lack your charitable help in necessary provision for our continuance with you. And thus besechinge god that your doings may tend to his glory/ and the speedy comfort off his afflicted church we wish you all health and increase off true knowledge in Christ our lord and saviour.  
From Zurick this ●7. off October. Anno 1554. Your loving friends as in the letters before  
When Master Chambers had conferred with the congregation and saw that they could not assure him the ●u●● use off the English book without the hazarding o●f their church/ he prepared to depart from whence he came/ and by this time was Master Knox come from Geneva/ (and chosen minister) upon the receit of a letter sent him from the congregation/ which letter was as followeth.  
WE have received letters from our brethren of Strausbrough/ but not in such sort and ample wise as we looked for/ whereupon we assembled together in the B. Goaste we hope/ and have with one voice and consent chosen you so particularly to be one of the Ministers of our congregation here/ to preach unto us the most lively word of God/ according to the gift that God hache given you for as much as we have here through the merciful goodness of God a church to be congregated together in the name off christ/ and be all of one body/ and also being of one nation/ tongue/ and country. And at this present/ having need off such a one as you/ 
Mark the calling of Knox to the pastorshipp.  we do desire you and also require you in the name of God not to deny us/ not to refuse these our requests/ but that you will aid/ help and assist us with your presence in this our Good and godly enterprise/ which we have take in hand to the glory of god and the profit off his congregation and the poor she●pe of Christ dispersed abroad/ who with your and like presences/ would come hither and be of one fold where as now they wander abroad as lost sheep without any guide. we mistrust not but that you will io●fully accept this calling.  
Far ye well from Frankford this 24. of September. Your loving brethren. 

john Bale  
Edmond Sutton.  
john Makebraie.  
William Whitingham  
Thomas Cole  
William William's  
George Chidley  
William Hammon.  
Thomas Steward  
Thomas wood.  
john Stanton  
William Walton  
jasper swift  
john Geofrie.  
john Grai●  
Mighell Gill.  
john Samford  
john Wood  
Thomas Sorby  
Anthony Ca●i●r  
Hugh Alforde.    
Now to ruturne to the tenor of the letter which the congregation of Frankford wrote by Master Chambers to the students of Zurick.  
WE have received your 2. several letters the one dated the 23. of October sent us from Strausbrough and the other the 27. of the same by the hands of your dear friend Master Chambers and have conferred with him at large/ touching the contents thereof. And when as after divers assemblies and long debatings the said Master Chambers perceived that we could not in all points warrant the full use off the book of service (which seemeth to be your full scope and mark) and also weighing in conscience the great benefit that God hath in this c●●e offered to our whole nation/ he not only re●oised at the same/ but also promised to travel in persuading you to the futheraunce thereof. As touching the effect of the book/ we desire the execution thereof as much as you/ (so far as God's word doth commend it) but as for the unprofitable ceremonies/ aswell by his consent as by ours/ are not to be used. And although they were tolerable (as some are not) yet being in a strange common wealth/ we could not be suffered to put them in ure/ and better it were they should never be practised/ then they should be the subversion of our church/ which should fall in great hazard by using them.  
The matter is not ours more than yours/ (except any excel others in godly zeele/ but both wish gods honour.  
Iff a larger gate be opened there/ to the same then to us/ upon your perswatione/ ye shall not find us to draw back. for this is that necessity/ brethren/ that may not be neglected/ if we wish the comfort and gathering together of our dispersed brethren. if any think that the not using off the book in all points should increase our godly father's/ and brethren's bands/ or else any thing deface the worthy ordinances and laws of our Sovereign Lord of most famous memory. K. Edward the 6. he seemeth either little to way the matter/ or else letted through ignorance knoweth not that even they themselves have upon considerations of circumstances/ altered heretofore many things as touching the same. And if god had not in these wicked days otherwise determined/ would here after have changed more/ yea and in our case we doubt not but that they would have done the like. These few lines concerning both our communications we have accordingly written unto you/ referring the rest to the discretion of our Good friend Master Chambers/ who knoweth that we have showed ourselves most conformable in all things that standeth in our powers and most desirous of your companies according to our former letters. The spirit of God move your hearts to do that which shallbe most to his glory and the comfort off your brethren.  
At Frankford. this 15. of November. Your loving friends, etc.  
The 28. of November Master Chambers came again to Frankford from S●rousbrough/ and with him Master Grindall with letters from the learned men there/ subscribed with 16. of their hands/ which letter was as followeth.  
WHen we do consider what inward comfort it were for ●he faithful people of England now dispersed for the gospel/ and wandering abroad in strange countries as sheep without pastor/ to be gathered together in to one congregation/ that with one mouth/ one mind/ and one spirit they might glorify God: we have at all times and do presently think it our duties/ not only in heart to wish that thing/ but also to labour by all means so much as in us lieth to bring the same to pass. And having now perfect intelligence of the Good minds/ which the magistrates of Frankford bear towards you and others our scattered country men/ and also understanding off the free grant off a church unto us wherein we may together serve god/ and not dowtinge off their farther frindshipp in permitting us frankly to use our religion according to that godly order set forth and received in England: We both give god thanks for so great a benefit/ and also think it not fit to refuse so friendly an offer/ or to let slip so good an occasion. Therefore/ neither dowtinge off their good furtherance hereunto/ not yet distrustinge your good conformity and ready desires in reducing the English church now begun there/ to it former perfection of the last/ had in England/ so far as possibly can be attained/ lest by much altering off the same we should seem to condemn the chief authors thereof/ who as they now suffer/ so ●re they most ready to confirm that fact with the price off their bloods and should also both give occasion to our adversaries/ to accuse our doctrine of imperfection/ and us of mutablitie/ and the godly to doubt in that truth wherein before they were persuaded/ and to hinder their coming hither which before they had purposed: For the avoiding off these/ and the obtaining off the other/ moved hereunto in conscience and provoked by your gentle letters/ we have thought it expedient to send over unto you/ our beloved brethren the bringers hereof to travel with the magistrates and you concerning the premises/ whose wisdoms learning and godly zeele/ as they be known unto you/ so their doings in this shall fully take place with us. And if they obtain that which we trust will not be denied at no hands: Then we intent (God willing) to be with you the first of February next/ there to help to set in order and stablish that church accordingly. And so long altogether to remain with you as shall be necessary/ or until just occasion shall call some of us away. And we doubt not but that our brethren of Zurick/ Emden Duesbrough etc. will do the same accordingly/ as we have prayed them by our letters trusting that you by yours will make like request.  
Far ye well from Strasbrough this 23. of November. Your loving friends, 

james Haddon  
Edwin Sands  
Edmond Grindall.  
john Huntingdon  
Guido Eaten.  
john Geoffrye  
john Pedder.  
Thomas Eaten.  
Mighell Reymuger  
Augustine Bradbridge.  
Arthur Saul.  
Thomas Steward.  
Christ. Goodman▪  
Humphrey Alcocson  
Tho. Lakin  
Tho. Crafton.    
THis letter was read to the congregation/ at which time master Grindall declared the occasion of their coming which (among other things) was chiefly for thestablishing of the book of England not that they ment/ (as he said) to have it so strictly observed but that such ceremonies/ and things which the country could not bear/ might well be omitted/ so that they might have the substance and effect theroff. Ma●ster Knox and whittingham a●ked them what they ment by the substance of the book/ It was answered by the other that they had no commission to dispute those matters/ but they requested that the congregation would answer to certain interogatories/ which were these First/ that they might know wha● parts off the book they would admit. The second was for a several church/ and the third what assurance they might have for their quiet habitation. To ●he first/ answer was made that what they could prove off that Book to stand wi●he gods word/ and the country permit/ that should be granted them. To the 2. which was for a church/ it was told them/ that they understood by the Magistrates/ the time served not to move any such matter till the counsel broke up at Ausburge. To the third it was said that a general grant was made at their first coming thither/ to the whole nation/ and the freedom of the city offered to all such as were desirous of it in as large and ample manner as they could require/ which was to them assurance sufficient.  
These 3. questions thus answered master Chambers and Master Grindall depart back again with a letter from the congregation which was as followeth.  
Grace mercy and peace, etc.  
AS it was ever most true/ so at this present we feel most sensibly/ that where so ever god layeth the foundation to build his glory there he continueth till he bring the same to a present work. All thanks and praise be unto him therefore/ that hath moved your hearts so as in no pointye seem to foreslow your diligence to the furtherance of the same. And as the work is off most excellency So the adversaries cease not most craftily to undermine it/ or at the least/ through false reports and defacing off the work begun/ to sta●e the labourers/ which should travail in the finishing thereof. But truth ever cleareth itselff/ and as the Son consumeth the clouds/ so misreports by trial are confounded. Our brethren sent from you can certify you at length touching the particulars of your letter/ to whom we have in all th●ngs agreed which seemed expedient for the state of this congation. As for certain Ceremonies which the order off the country will not bear: we necessarily omit with as little alteration as is possible (which in your letters ye require) so that no adversary is so impudent that dare either blame our doctrine of imperfection/ or us of mutability/ except he be altogether wilful ignorant/ rather seeking how to find faults/ then to amend them. Neither do we discente from them which lie at the ransom of their bloods for the doctrine whereof they have made a most worthy confession.  
And yet we think not that any godly man will stand to the death in the defence of ceremonies/ which (as the book specify the) upon just causes may be altered and changed.  
And if the not full using off the book cause the godly to doubt in that truth wherein before they were persuaded/ and to stay their coming hither/ according as they purposed: either it signifieth that they were very slenderly taught which for breach off a Ceremony will refuse such a singular benefit/ or else that you have hard them misreported by some false brethren/ who/ to hinder this worthy enterprise/ spare not to sow in every place/ store off such poor reasons. last of all it remaineth that ye writ/ that the first of February next you will come to help to set in order and establish this church accordingly/ which thing/ as we most wish for your companies sake and for that ye might see our godly orders already here observed: So we put you out of doubt that for to appoint a journey for the establishing off Ceremonies should be more to your charges then any general profit/ except ye were determined to remain with us longer than 2 months/ as ye writ to our countrymen at Densbrorow and Emden/ which letters notwithstanding are now stayed and as apearethe we never the near.  
We refer the rest to our brethren master Chambers and master Grindall/ who by their diligent inquisition have learned so far off our state as we wrote unto you in our former letters that is/ that we have a church freely granted to preach gods word purely/ to minister the Sacraments sincerely and to execute discipline truly. And as touching our book we will practise it so far as god's word doth assure it and the state of this country permit.  
Far ye well. At Franckf: this 3. of December. Your loving friends. 

Gorge Whetnall  
Thomas Whetnall  
john Knox.  
john Bale  
William Whitingham  
Edward Sutton.  
Thomas Wood  
William William's  
john Stanton  
john Samford  
john fox.  
William Kethe  
john Mak●braie  
William Walton  
Mighell Gill.  
Laurence Kert.  
john Hollingham.    
The answer to this letter from S●rausbrough was as followeth.  
Grace, mercy and peace, etc.  
WE have received your letters/ and also your answer in writing concerning certain Articles/ and do perceive aswell by the same as by master Chambers and Master Grindall your state. But for so much as your opinion is that the time doth not presently serve to move the magistrates in those requests the obteininge whereof was the principal cause of our sending unto you/ we cannot at this present condescend upon any general meeting/ at any certain time/ either to remain with you or otherwise. And therefore/ if you shall certainly perceive a time convenient/ that the Magistrates may be traveled with all aswell for the good and quiet habitation of the comers/ and especially Students/ as also a several church/ and to know whither the exercise off the book shall be used/ such we mean as no reasonable man shall justly reprove/ and that the certainty of these matters may be known at the magistrates hands:  
then/ (if you can let us have intelligence) we will farther consuete what is to be done on our party/ trusting/ god shall direct us to do so as may be most to his glory in the end/ how so ever the present time shall judge of it.  
From Strausbrough this 13. of December. Your loving friends, etc. as in the letteers before.  
WHen this letter was red to the congregation/ they requested that for so much as the learned men/ could not condescend upon any general and certain time of meeting as now appeared by their letters/ they might conclude upon some certain order by common consent still to continue and that wihowte farther delay/ and also to have the holy communion ministered/ which the most part earnestly desired. At length (it was agreed that the order of Geneva which then was already printed in English and some copies there among them) should take place as an order most godly and fardeste off from superstition. But Master knox being spoken unto/ aswell to put that order in practice/ as to minister the communion/ refused to do either the one or the other/ affirming/ that for many considerations he could not consent that the same order should be practised/ till the learned men of Strausbrough/ Zurik/ Emden/ etc. were made privy. Neither yet would he minister the communion by the book of England/ for that there were things in it placed (as he said) only by warrant of man's authority and no ground in gods word for the same/ and had also a long time very superstitiously in the mass been wickedly abused. But if he might not be suffered to minister the Sacraments according to his conscience/ he then requested that some other might minister the Sacraments/ and he would only preach. if neither could be admitted be besought them that he might be discharged. But to that the congregation would in no wise consent.  
While these things were thus in handling came master Lever (before elected) who/ assemblinge the congregation requested that he might with their consents appoint such an order/ as should be both Godly without respect of the Book of Geneva or any other/ requesting farther/ that for so much as that office was off so great importance/ and that he had not been in the like before/ that he might between that and Easter have a trial of them/ and they of him/ and so at the end off that term either take or refuse/ which time of trial/ as it was willingly granted him: so when they understood that the order which he would place and use was not altogether such as was fit for a right reformed church/ they would in nowise yield to the same.  
Knox/ whittingham/ and others/ perceiving that these beginnings would grow to some what/ if it were not stayed in time/ drew forth a platt of the whole book of England into the latin tongue/ sending the same to master Caluin of Geneva and requesting his judgement therein/ and shewing him that some of their country men went about to force them to the same and would admit no other/ saying/ that it was an order most absolute and that if ever they came in to their country they would do their best to establish it again. Now followeth the description.  

A description of the Liturgy/ or book of service that is used in England.  
first of all/ morning prayer offereth itself. The minister having put on a white garment (which they call a surplice) beginning with some sentence off holy scripture/ as for example▪ if we shall say that we have no sin we deceive our selves/ etc. or some such of like sort. Then he taketh in hard the exhortat on/ which stirreth up to a confession of sins/ which the minister pronounceth with a loud voice/ the people saying after him. To this is added an absolution/ and when these things are done/ he rehearseth the lords prayer/ and afterward lord open thou my lips/ and my mouth shall show forth thy praise. O god be ready to be my help/ etc. Then/ come and let us sing unto th' Lord/ etc. By and by also there follow 3. Psalms together at th'end of every one. Then followeth the first lesson/ which conteinethe a whole chapter of the old Testament. After this lesson they say or sing we praise ●he/ lord/ or Blessed be the Lord/ etc. Then an other lesson out of the New testament/ unless peradventure the solemnisation of some high feast have other set and appointed lessons. Now in cathedral churches they utter their lessons in plain song and then afterwards is Benedictus added. This book warneth that they keep this order through out the whole year. Afterwards/ the crede is pronounced by the Minister/ (all the people in the mean time standing up) Afterwards falling down upon their knees/ the Minister saith/ The Lord be with you/ The answer/ And with thy spirit.  
Then/ Lord have mercy upon us/ christ have mercy upon us/ Lord have mercy upon us/ etc. our father/ etc. pronounced out aloud of all with all boldness. Then the Minister/ when he standeth up saith/ oh lord show us thy mercy The answer/ and give unto us thy saving health. O Lord save the king In the day wherein we shall call upon thee. Iudu● thy Ministers with righteousness. And make thy chosen people joyful. O Lord save thy people. And bless thine inheritance. give peace in our time oh Lord/ etc. At length. Collects are had ●n place off a conclusion/ the first/ for the day/ the second for peace/ the last is for the obteininge of Grace. Now/ the evening prayers are said 〈◊〉 manner as the other are/ saving/ that after the first lessen followeth my soul doth magnify the lord. After the 2. lessen Now Lord/ etc. and in steed of that collect/ God which art the Author of peace/ is used oh God from whom all holy desires/ etc. beside/ there is caution added that all Ministers shall exercise themselves continually aswell in morning prayers as evening prayers/ except perhapp by study in divinity or some other business/ they be greatly and necessarily let or hindred· Besides/ upon every Sabothe day/ wensdaie and friday there is yet in use certain suffrages devised off Pope Gregory which beginneth after this manner. O God the father of heaven have mercy upon us miserable sinners. O God the son redeemer of the world/ etc. only leaving out the invocation of saints/ otherwise we use a certain conjuring of God. By the mystery of his incarnation/ by his holy nativity and circumcision by his haptisme/ fasting and temptation/ by his agony and bloody sweat/ etc. yea/ it comprehendethe in plain words a prayer to be delivered from sudden death/ the people answering to the end off every clause/ either spare us good lord/ or else/ Good Lord deliver us/ or we beseech thee to hear us Good Lord. O Lamb of God that taketh away the sins of the world is thrice repeated. Then Lord have mercy upon us thrice/ and then the Lords prayer with this prayer also/ oh Lord deal not with us after our sins to the same adjoined/ passing over some things lest we should seem to sift all those drosses which remain still among us.  
Now the manner of the supper is thus. The number of three at the least is counted a fit number to communicate/ and yet it is permitted (the pestilence or some other common sickness being among the people) the Minister alone may communicate with the sick man in his house. First therefore/ the Minister must be prepared after this manner/ in a whit lynnin garment (as in saying the other service he is appointed (and must stand at the Northeside off the Table. Then is had the Lords prayer after the custom/ then he reciteth the collect/ and after follow in order the ten commandments (but so notwithstanding/ that every one of the people may answer lord have mercy upon us and incline our hearts to keep this law. After the rehearsal of the commandments/ the collect off the day (as it is called) and an other for the king is had. By and by the Epistle and Gospel followeth/ to wit/ such as the calendar apointethe for that day. And there in this place there is a note/ that every holy day hath his collect Epistle and Gospel (which fill 73. great leaves off the book ● when the rest fill scarce fifty. For all holy days are now in like use as were among the Papists/ only very few excepted.  
Then he goeth forwards to the creed and after that to the sermon (if there be any) Afterwards the parish priest biddeth the holy days and fasts on their eves/ if there be any that week. And here the book warneth that none defraud the parish priest of his due or right specially on those feast days/ that are dedicated to offerings. Then followeth a prayer for the state of the church militaunte/ and that not without a long heap and mixture of matters until they come (after a certain confession of sins) to lift up your hearts/ the people answering/ we give thanks to the lord. Let us give thanks to our Lord God/ the answer/ It is meet and right so to do. It is very meet/ right and our bownden duty/ etc. until they come to that clause: O Lord holy father/ etc. and so the preface according to the feast is added. Afterwards he saith: Therefore with Angels and archangels and so endeth with holy holy holy/ lord god/ till he come to hosianna in the highest. Now the priest bowethe his knee acknowledging our unworthiness in the name off all them that shall receiu●. And setting out gods mercy/ he beseech the God that our bodies may be made clean by his body and that our souls may be washed through his blood. And then he again standeth up and taketh in hand a fresh an other prayer appointed for this purpose/ in which are contained the words of the institution/ all which being done/ he first communicateth/ then/ by and by he saith to an other/ kneeling/ Take/ and eat this in remembrance that Christ died for thee and feed on him in thy heart by faith with thanksgevinge.  
Now about th'end the Lords prayer it used again/ the Minister saying it aloud and all the people following/ to conclude/ they have a giving off thanks in th'end/ with Glory to god in the highest/ as it was used among the Papists/ if it happen that there be no sermon/ only a few things are omitted/ but all other things are done in order aforesaid.  
In baptism the Godfathers are demanded in the name off the child/ whither they renounce the devil and all his works/ the lusts of the world/ etc. and they answer I renounce them. Then/ whither they believe the Artikles of the faith/ which being confessed/ wilt thou (saith he turning himself to both the witnesses/ be baptised into this faith? and they say yea/ I william. After afewe thing rehearsed/ he taketh the Child and dippeth it in/ but warily and discretely as it is in the book/ upon whose forehead also he shall make a cross in token forsooth that when he is old he shall not be ashamed to confess the faith of Christ Crucified. Afterwards/ sending away the Godfathers and Godmothers/ be chargeth them that they bring the child to be confirmed off the Bishop as soon as he can say the Articles of the faith/ the lords prayer/ and the ten Commandments. And seeing there be many causes/ as the book saith/ which should move them to the Confirmation of Children/ this/ forsooth/ off all others is the weightiest/ that by imposition of hands they may receive strength and defence against all temptations of sin/ and the assaults off the world and the devil/ because that when Children come to that age/ partly/ by the frailty of their own flesh/ partly/ by the assaults off the world and the devil they begin to be in danger: And left any should think any error to be in this Confirmation/ therefore they take a certain pamflett of a Catechism/ which consisteth off the Articles of the faith/ the lords prayer/ and ten commandments/ and all this is dispatched in less than two leaves.  
To these is joined their manner of Marriage of which that we may passover many petty ceremonies these follies who can suffer? The husband laithe down a ring upon the book/ which the minister taking/ he giveth it in his hand and biddeth him to put it on the fourthfinger of his wives left hand/ Then he useth this form off words: with this ring (saith he) I thee wed/ with my body I thee worship with all my worldly goods I thee endue. In the name off the father/ the son/ and the holy ghost.  
A little after the Minister saith to the new married persons kneeling before the lords table: Lord have mercy upon us Christ have mercy upon us/ Lord have mercy upon us. Our father which art/ etc. Lord save thy servant and thy handmaid/ etc. and so a few things being rehearsed they must be brought to the lords supper. The visitation of the sick is after this manner. Peace be to this house. The answer/ and to all that devil in the same. Lord have mercy upon us/ etc. our father/ etc. Lord save thy servant. Answer/ which trusteth in thee. Send forth thy help from thy holy hill/ and with speed save him/ etc. as in the other prefaces with questions and answers. of the Burial.  
The Priest meetethe the Corpse at the entrance of the churchyard either singing or softly pronouncing/ I am the Resurrection and the life/ etc. I know that my redeemer liveth job. 19 being come to the grave it is said. Man borne off a woman job. 9 When the earth is thrown in/ we commit (saith he) earth to earth/ dust to dust/ etc. The Lord hath given/ the Lord hath taken/ I hard a voice from heaven/ saying/ Blessed are the ●ead which die in the Lord. Lord have mercy upon us/ etc.  
The purification of women in childbed/ which they call giving off thanks/ is not only in all things with us almost common with the Papists but also with the Iewes/ because they are commanded in stead of a lamb or dove to offer money.  

Knox and Whittingham ashamed to open some things  Other things/ not so much shame itself/ as a certain kind of pity compelleth us to keep close/ in the mean season nothing diminishing the honour due to those reverend men/ who partly being hindered by those times/ and by the obstinacy and also multitude of adversaries (to whom nothing was ever delightful besides their own corruptions) being as it were overflown/ did always in their mind continually as much as they could strive to more perfect things.  
Note, that this description is very favourably put down, if ye confer it with the Book of order in all points, and the usage of the book in many churches of this realm you can confess no less. And hereof ye may gather what M. Caluin would have written, if they had noted all the abuses of the same.   

The answer and judgement of that famous and excellent learned man Master john Caluin the late Pastor of Geneva/ touching the Book of England after that he had perused the same faithfully translated out of Latin by master Whittingham.  
To the godly and learned men Master john Knox/ and Master William Whittingham/ his faithful brethren at Frankford etc.  
THis thing truly grieveth me very much/ and it is a great shame that contention should arise among brethren banished and driven out of their country for one faith/ and for that cause which only aught to have holden you bound together as it were with an holy band in this your dispersion. For what might you do better in this dolorous and miserable plague/ then (being pulled violently from your country) to procure yourselves a church/ which should receive and nourish you (being joined together in minds and languadge) in her motherly lap. But now for some men to strive as touching the form of prayer and for Ceremonies as though ye were at rest and prosperity/ and to suffer that to be an impediment that ye cannot there join in to one body of the church (as I think) it is to much out of season.  
Yet notwithstanding/ I allow their constancy which strive for a just cause being forced against their wills unto contention. I do worthily condemn frowardness/ which doth hinder and stay the holy carefulness of reforming the church.  
And as I behave myselff gentle and tractable in mean things (as external ceremonies) So do I not always judge it profitable/ to give place to their foolish stoutness/ which will forsake nothing of their old wonted custom. In the liturgy of England/ I see that there were many tolerable foolish things/ by these words I mean/ that there was not that purity which was to be desired. 
Many tolerable foolish things in the book by Caluins' judgement.  These vices/ though they could not at the first day be amended/ yet/ seeing there was no manifest impetie/ they were for a season to be tolerated. Therefore/ it was lawful to begin off such rudiments or absedaries/ but so/ that it behoved the learned/ grave/ and godly ministers of Christ to enterprise farther/ and to setfoorthe some thing more filled from rust/ and purer. If godly Religion had flourished till this day in England/ there aught to have been a thing better corrected and many things clean taken away Now/ when these principles be over thrown/ a church must be set up in an other place/ where ye may freely make an order again/ which shall be apparent to be most commoditious to the use and edification of the church. I cannot tell what they mean which so greatly delight in the leavings of Popish dregs. They love the things whereunto they are accustomed. first of all/ this is a thing both trifling and Childish. 
The book trifling and Childish by Caluins' judgement.  furthermore/ this new order far differeth from a change.  
Therefore/ as I would not have you feirse over them whose infirmity will not suffer to ascend an higher step: so would I advertise other/ that they please not themselves to much in their foolishness. Also/ that by their frowardness/ they do not let the course off the holy building. last of all/ lest that foolish vain glory steal them away. For what cause have they to contend/ except it be for that they are ashamed to give place to better things. But I speak in vain to them which perchance esteem me not so well/ as they will vouchsafe to admit the counsel that cometh from such an author. If they fear the evil rumour in England/ as though they had fallen from that Religion which was the cause off their banishment/ they are far deceived for this true and sincere Religion/ will rather compel them that their remain/ faithfully to consider in to what deep gulff they have fallen For there downfall shall more grievously wound them/ when they perceive your going forward beionde mid course/ from the which they are turned.  
Far ye well dearly beloved brethren/ and faithful servants of Christ. the Lord defend and govern you from Geneva this 20. of jan. Anno. 1555. Your john Caluin  
WHen this letter of Caluins was red to them of the congregation/ it so wrought in the hearts of many/ that they were not before so stout to maintain all the parts off the book of England as afterward they were bend against it. But now to return. While these things were in doing/ the congregation (as you have hard afore) could not agreed upon any certain order/ till after long debating to and fro/ it was concluded/ that master Knox/ master Whittingham/ Master Gilby/ Master Fox and Master T. Cole should draw forth some order meet for their state and time: which thing was by them accomplished and offered to the congregation (being the same order of Geneva which is now in print) This order was very well liked off many/ but such as were bend to the book of England could not abide it/ yea/ contention grew at length so hot/ and the one party which sought sincerity/ so sore charged/ with newfangledness and singularity and to be the stirrers of contention and unquietness/ 
The humbleness of Gilby and his godly zeal  that Master Gilby with a godly grieff (as well appeared) kneeled down before them and besought them (with tears) to reform their judgements/ solemelie protesting/ that (in this matter) they sought not themselves/ but only the glory of god/ as he was verily persuaded/ wishing farther that that hand which he then held up were stricken of if by that a godly peace and unity might ensue and follow. In th'end an otherwaie was taken by the congregation/ which was/ that master Knox and master whittingham/ Master parry and Master leaver should devise some order if it might be/ to end all striff and contention. 
The modesty of Knox   
these 4. assembled for that purpose. And first/ Master Knox spoke to the rest in this wise. For so much/ (saith he) as I perceive/ that no end of contention is to be hoped for/ unless the one part something relent/ this will I do for my part/ that quietness may ensue. I will show my judgement how (as I think) it may be best for the edification of this poor flock/ which if ye will not accept/ nor follow (after that I have discharged my conscience) I will cease and commit the whole matter to be ordered by you as you will answer before Christ jesus at the last day/ and to this his congregation in this life/ etc. Whereupon after some conference/ an order was agreed upon: some part taken forth of the English book and other things put to/ as the state of that church required.  
And this order by the consent of the congregation should continue to the last of April following. 
This order was taken the 6. of Feb.  if any contention should arise in the mean time/ the matter then to be determined by these S. notable learned men/ to wete/ Caluin/ Musculus Martyr/ Bullinger/ and Vyret. This agreement was put in writing. To that all gave their consents. This day was joyful. thanks were given to God/ brotherly reconciliation followed/ great familiarity used/ the former grudges seemed to be forgotten. Yea the holy communion was upon this happy agreement/ also ministered. And this frindshipp continued till the 13. 
D. Cox with others come to Frankf.  of March following/ at which time. D. Cox and others with him came to Frankford out of England/ who began to break that order which was agreed upon/ first in answering aloud after the minister/ contrary to the church's determination/ and being admonished thereof/ by the Seniors of the congregation/ he/ with the rest that came with him made answer/ that they would do as they had done in England/ and that they would have the face off an English church. And the sunday following/ one off his company without the consent and knowledge of the congregation gate up suddenly into the pulpit/ red the lettany/ and D. Cox with his company answered aloud/ whereby the determination of the church was broken. The same sunday at after noon it came to master Knox his turn to preach/ who having passed so far in Gen. that he was come to Noah as he lay open in his tent/ he spoke these words following.  

th'effect of Knox sermon.  As divers things (saith he) aught to be kept secret/ even so such things as end to the dishonour of God and disquieting of his church aught to be disclosed and openly reproved. And thereupon he showed/ how that after long trouble and contention among them/ a godly agreement was made/ and how that the same/ that day was ungodly broken/ which thing/ become not (as he said) the proudest of them all to have attempted/ alleging furthermore that like as by the word of God we must/ seek our warrant for the establishing off religion/ and without that to thrust nothing into any Christian congregation: so for as much as in the English book were things both superstitious/ unpure/ and unperfect (which he offered to prove before all men) he would not consent that off that church it should be received/ and that in case men would go about to burden that free congregation therewith/ so oft as he should come in that place (the text offering occasion) he would not fail to speak against it.  
He farther affirmed that among many things which provoked gods anger against England/ slackness to reform religion (when time and place was granted) was one. And therefore it become them to be circumspect/ how they laid their foundation. And where some men ashamed not to say/ that there was no let or stop in England/ but that Religion might be/ and was already brought to perfection/ he proved the contrary/ by the want of discipline. Also by the troubles which master Hooper Sustained/ for the Rochet and such like/ in the book commanded and allowed.  
And for that one man was permitted to have 3.4. or 5. benefices to the great slander off the gospel and defraudinge off the flock of Christ of their lively food and sustenance. These were the chief notes off his sermon/ which was so stomached off some/ especially off such as had many livings in England/ that he was very sharply charged/ and reproved so soon as he came out of the pulpit/ for the same.  
The twesdaie following/ 
D. Cox sharply rebuked him.  was appointed to talk off these things more at large. When all were assembled earnest request was made that D. Cox with his company might be admitted to have voices in the congregation. Answer was made by others that the matter yet in controversy among them/ ought first to be determined/ Secondly/ that they should subscribe to discipline as others had done before them/ 
But that they refused, and at length over threw it.  and farther it was greatly suspected that they had been (some of them) at mass in England/ and others had subscribed to wicked articles/ as one of them shortly after even in the pulpit sorrowfully confessed. For these considerations and such like/ The congregation withstood the admission off D. Cox and his company▪ Knox'at ●aste/ began to make entreaty that they might have their ●o●ces among the rest/ 
M. jewel.  to whose request when certain had yielded/ they then become the greater part and so were by them admitted as members of the church. They thus admitted/ by the most part. D. Cox forthwith forbade Knox to meddle any more in that congregation.  
The next day being wensdaie/ whittingham went to Master john Glauburge (who was the chief mean in obtaining the church) and broke the matter unto him/ 
Knox putowt by those which he brought in.  declaring/ how that certain/ now come out of England had forbidden their minister appointed/ to preach that day/ and intended to set up an other/ which he doubted would not be well taken. And therefore/ least any inconvenience should hap/ he thought good to make him privy thereto. Whereupon the said Magistrate sent immediately and gave commandment that there should be no sermon that day. afterward he sent for Valeran the french Minister/ commanding him that 2. learned men should be appointed off either part/ and that he and they should consult and agreed upon some good order/ and to make report unto him accordingly. Then were appointed D. Cox and lever of the one side and knox and whittingham on the otherside To decide the matter. Valeran was appointed to put down in writing what they should agreed upon. But when in this conference/ they came to the order off Matins and that D. Cox said/ Ego volo habere, there could be no agreement among them/ and so broke off/ whereupon the congregation drew up a supplication in latten and presented it to the said master Glauburge requesting him to be a mean that the same might be considered off among the Senators. The English whereof was as followeth.   

The supplication to the Senate.  
Let it not molest you (most grave and worthy Senators/ that your affairs are letted with a few words. And least we should trouble you with prolixity/ you shall understand the matter briefly. When your great and unspeakable humanity/ through the providence of god had granted us a church/ we undertook forthwith (as become us) to consult about the orders off the same/ and to set ow●● Liturgy. And because we saw that in the prolix and Ceremonious book of the liturgy of England/ be many things (that we may speak no worse of it) not moste perfect/ it seemed best to reduce it to the perfect rule off the scriptures and to accommodate ourselves to the ensamples off that church where in we teach/ and to whom we have subscribed But when this enterprise offended some of our countrymen (although the greatest number agreed unto us) for that we would decline from the decrees off our elders/ 
To weet, the french church.  here upon there grew to us for a few months no small trouble.  
At the length/ when there appeared no end/ for peace and concords sake we gave place to their will/ and suffered them at their pleasure to pike out. off their book the chiefest or best things upon this condition that the same should continue with out alteration/ at the least/ unto the last day of April/ at the which day (if there should any new contention arise (that then all the matter should be referred to these 5. notable men/ Calvin/ Musculus/ Martyr/ Bullinger/ vnd Viret. What needeth many words. This condition was willingly accepted/ and the covenant rated on both parts. A writing was also theroff to testify the promise made off the one to the other. Moreover thanks were given to god with great joy/ and common prayers were made/ for that men thought that day to be th'end of discord. Besides this/ they received/ the communion as the sure token/ or seal off their mutual agreement/ which was omitted before/ by the space off 3. months. Valaran also the french Minister was partaker of this communion and a furtherer of concord and a witness off these things. Now of late days/ certain of our country men/ came to us who have endeavoured by all means to obtrude that huge volume of ceremonies upon us to break the covenant and to overthrough the liberty of the Church granted by your benevolence. And no doubt/ this they enterprise and mind to do under the title and name off your defence/ Whereby they may abuse the authority of your name to satisfy their ●ust●. We are here compelled to omit many things which would make for our cause/ no less rightly then profitably/ but we remit these to our brethren for concords sake.  
You have here/ most honourable Sen. a brieff sum of our case/ and contention/ whereby you may easily understand/ what to judge off the whose matter.  
What manner of Book this ●s for the which they so cruelly contend/ 
The letter a little before.  ye may consider by the Epistle that Caluin lately wrote unto us/ in the which he hath signified his mind/ aswell plainly of the book/ as also of the uprightness of our cause. We could have pointed out unto you the foolish and fond things of the book/ but passing over an infinite number of things/ this one will we bring for many the which shallbe necessary well to be ma●●ed. within these three years arose a great conflict between the the bishops of the realm and the Bishop of Gloucester Master Hooper/ 
This controversy hath been si●hins king Edward his reign as ye see.  a man worthy of perpetual memory/ whom we hear to be burned off late. This man being made Bishop By king Edward/ there was obtruded by other B. of the same order (according to this book) a roche●●/ and and a bishop's rob this man being well learned and a long time nourished and brought up in Germany/ as soon as he refused these proud things that fools marve●l a●/ he was cast into prison and at length by their importunity overcome/ and relenting/ he was compelled to his shame to give place to their impudence with the common grieff and sorrow of all godly minds.  
But wherefore speak you off these things will you say/ that apperteneth nothing to us? yes verily/ we think it toucheth you very moche/ for if these men armed by your authority shall do what they list/ this evil shallbe in t●me established by you and never be redressed/ neither shall there for ever be any end off this controversy in England. But if it would please your honourable authority to decree this moderation between us/ that this whole matter may be referred to the judgements of the five above named not we alone that are here present/ but our whole posterity/ yea our whole english nation ● and all good men/ ●o the perpetual memory of your names/ shallbe bound unto you for this great benefit We might have used more words in this narration/ for we feared not/ that we should lake reason's/ but rather that time should fa●●e you/ letted with more serious business. Therefore/ we by these things/ leave the rest to the consideration of your wisdoms.  
The 22, off March ma●ster Glauburge came to the English Church and showed the congregation/ that it was commanded them/ by the magistrate's (when by his procurement the church was granted) that they should agreed with the french church both in Doctrine and ceremonies/ and that they understood how the falling from ●hat order had bred much dissension among them. Therefore/ ●e straight charged and commanded that from thenc forth they should not descent from that order/ if they did/ as he had opened the church door unto them/ so would he shut it again. And that such as would not obey thereunto should not tarry within that city/ willing them to consult together out of hand and to give him an answer before he departed. D. Cox/ then spoke to the congregation in this wise/ I have (saith he) red the french order and do think it to be both good and godly in all points/ and therefore wished them to obey the magistrates commandment whereupon the whole congregation gave consent/ so as before the Magistrate departed the church/ D. Cox/ lever/ and whittingham made report unto him accordingly. D. Cox also at that present requested that it would please him/ notwithstanding their ill behaviour) to show unto them his accustomed favour and goodness/ which he most gently and lovingly promised.  
At the next meeting off the congregation that order was put in practice/ to the comfort and rejoicing of the most part. Nevertheless/ such as would so feign have had the book of England/ left not the matter thus. And for that they saw Knox to be in such credit with many off the congregation/ they first of all assayed by a most cruel barbarous and bloody practice to dispatch him out of the way/ to th'end they might with more ease attain the thing which they so greedily sought/ which was the placing of their book. They had among them a book of his entitled an admonition to Christians written in the English tongue/ wherein by occasion he spoke off the Emperor/ off Philip his son/ and of Marie then Queen of England. This book cericine of them presented to the Magistrates/ who (upon receit of the same) sent for whittingham and asked him off Knox their Minister/ what manner of man he was: whittingham answered that such a one their was among them and to his knowledge both a learned/ wise/ grave and godly man. 
Knox accused off treason.  Then one of the Magistrates said unto him/ certain off your country men have accused him unto us Laesae Maiestatis Imperatoriae, that is off high treason against the Emperor/ his son/ 
The places in all were 8.  and the Queen of England/ here is the book/ and the places which they have noted/ the true and perfect sense whereof we command you (sub pena pacis) to bring unto us in the latin tongue at one of the clock in the after noon/ which thing he did accordingly/ at which time (after certain communication among themselves/ they commanded that Knox should preach no more till their pleasure were farther known. The words concerning the Emperor were these/ spoken in the pulpit in a Town of Buchingham sheer in the beginning off Queen Mary's reign/ as by the said book apearethe where it is said O England England/ if thou wilt obstinately return into Egipte/ that is/ if thou contract marriage/ confederacy/ or league with such princes as do maintain and advance idolatry/ such as the Emperor (who is no less enemy to Christ then was Nero) if for the pleasure and friendship (I say) of such princes thou return to thine old abominations before used under P●pistery: then assuredly (O England) thou shalt be plagued and brought to desolation by the means off those whose favour thou sekeste/ and by whom thou art procured to fall from Christ and serve antechriste. There were other 8. places/ but this was most noted/ in that it touched the Emperor. But it seemed the magistrates abhorred this bloudly/ cruel/ and outrageous attempt/ for that when as certain of Knox his enemies followed hardly the Magistrates to know what should be done with him/ they did not only show most evident signs of disliking their unnatural suit/ but also sent for master Williams and Whittingham/ willing them/ that master Knox should depart the City. 
The banishment of Knox.  For otherwise/ (as they said) they should be forced to deliver him/ if the Emperor his counsel (which then lay at Ausburge) should upon like information sand for him.  
The 25 of march master Knox the night before his departure made a most comfortable sermon at his lodging to 50. persons or there about/ then present/ which sermon was of the death and resurrection off christ/ and of the unspeakable joys which were prepared for Gods elect/ which in this life suffer trouble and persecution for the testimony of his blessed name. The next day he was brought 3. or 4. mile in his way by some off some of those unto whom the night before/ he had made that exhortation/ who with great heaviness of heart and plenty of tears committed him to the lord.  
The very same day being the 26. 
Many of the learned men were now come from all places.  of march one Adulphus Glauburge (A Doctor of law and nephew to Master john Glauburge the Senator) whom D. Cox and the rest had won unto them/ sent for wittingham/ and told him that there were presented to the Magistrates three Doctors/ 13. bachelors of divinity besides others/ and that the magistrates at their suits had granted them the full use off the English book commanding and charging him therefore not to meddle any more to the contrary. 
This Adulphus was before this time a great fartherrer of the church and the orders off the same how so ever he was turned.  for (as he said) it was fully concluded that so it should be. And supposing that Whittinghan would let it what he might/ the next day again he sent for him home to his house where he gave the like charge (D. Cox and other present by whose procurement the same was done) Whittingham answered/ that if it were so concluded/ he would willingly obey/ not dowtinge/ but that it might be lawful for him and others to join themselves to some other church. But D. Cox besought the lawyer that it might not so be suffered/ whereto whittingham answered that it would be to great cruelty to force men contrary to their consciences to obate all their disorderly doings/ offering/ that if it would please the Magistrates to give him and others the hearing/ they would dispute the matter against all the contrary part and prove that the order which they sought to establish/ aught not to take place in any reformed church. The D. of law made a plain answer that disputation there should be none/ using his former words off charging and commanding not to deal farther in that matter.  

Marck the placing off the English book and off the rejecting tother.  When as the congregation hard off the cruel and more than tyrannical dealings of this Doctor/ Master Gilby and others with him/ were sent to master john Glawburge (by whose commandment as ye hard/ they had received the french order) putting him in remembrance of the same and shewing him that certain lately come among them had sought (as they were credibly informed) to overthrow their church by placing the English book among them. To this master Glauburg made answer/ that he was informed how that both parts were full agreed and contented/ and that thereupon he had committed the whole matter to the lawyer his cousin. 
Marck this practice.  Then he asked for whittingham: it was answered that straight charge was given him that he should meddle no more in that matter. The magistrate asked again of whom he had that commandment/ and when it was told him that the Doctor his cousin had given him that charge/ he then began/ very gently to persuade with master Gilby and the rest that they should be contented/ and he would see that nothing should be used but that which should be tolerable/ and so master Gilby with the rest departed.  
The 28. of march D. Cox assembled all such as had been Priests and Ministers in England to his lodging and there declared how the Magistrates had granted them the use off the English book/ and that he thought requisite that they should consult together/ 
At length they agreed upon the name Pastor.  whom they thought most meet to be Bishop/ superintendant or Pastor with the rest off the officers/ as Seniors Ministers and Deacons. Whereunto master Christopher Goodman answered that his opinion was/ that they aught first to agreed upon some perfect an godly order for the church/ and thereto to have the consent of the congregation whereby it might appear/ that they contemned not the rest of their brethren: And farther/ to proceed to the election which he thought also aught not to be attempted without the consent off the whole church. To this was answered that for the order/ it was already determined/ and other order then the book of England they should no● have/ so that the persuasions of Goodman nothing at all prevailed neither in one thing or other/ yea/ the proceedings of sundry persons (which I could name) were such as if there had been neither orders/ officers/ or church there/ before their coming/ or any promise to be kept off their parts/ after they came/ as may more plainly apeere to the reader by this let following/ written by master Whittingham to a friend of his in England/ which letter is (of his own hand) to be seen.  
Grace, mercy and peace through Christ our lord.  
AS you require a brieff answer to your short letter/ 
An answer to a let sent him out of England.  so neither time permitteth/ nor I intent to trouble you farther than the very necessity of the matter asketh. And first/ for that ye seem to hang in such extreme perplexity/ partly/ because of sundry talks/ and divers letters of men off good credit which cause the you not a little to marvel/ and partly/ by reason off the Good opinion once conceived and yet retained off certain persons both godly and learned/ which maketh you to doubt▪ I think it best/ briefly and simply to open a few chief points upon the which the rest of the matter dependeth After certain months that we had here lived in great consolation and quietness it chanced that as our number did increase/ so some entered in/ which busily undermined our liberty and laboured to overthrow our discipline/ which troubles grew at length in so great quantity/ that by the greatest part it was concluded/ that no man should need here after to subscribe to any discipline for as much as they presupposed that none wou●d come hither which should have need thereof. Which done/ they altered our orders in prayers and others things/ thinking to bring in place the full use off the great English book/ which notwithstanding/ by reason off divers imperfections we could not admit/ so that to grow to a common concord it was agreed and the name of god invocated that the whole matter should be referred/ to master Caluin Master Musculus Master Martyr/ Master Bullinger and Master Viret that both parts should draw their orders and that to be received which by the judgements of these 5. excellent men should be thought most agreeable to a reformed church. In the/ mean time every man to stand content with that order which was then agreed upon and used. But within few days after/ this determination was broken▪ A stranger craftily brought in to preach/ who had both been at mass and also subscribed to blasphemous Articles▪ Many taunting bitter sermons were made (as they thought) to our defacing/ in so much/ as master Knox being desired thereunto off divers/ was enforced to purge himself in sundry points/ and spoke his mind freely in the pulpit/ aswell in reproving certain parts off the English book/ as declaring the punishment of God which partly had light upon our country for slackness in Religion/ so as they seemed to take the matter so to heart that by their false delation in accusing him before the Magistrates of treason against the Emperor and the Queen in a certain book of his written to our country men of England he was commanded to depart.  
And the Magistrates understanding their fetches/ and greedy cerchinge off their own glory (who seemed to spare no kind of contention to purchase the same) commanded that we should receive the french order (which is according to the order of Geneva the purest reformed church in Christendom (Whereupon all agreed and D. Cox with others commending the same to the congregation) gave thanks to the Magistrate in all our names. Here you may note their double faces/ who/ bearing the Magistrate in hand that they received his commandment joyfully/ privily practised/ and so laboured under hand/ that they made this Magistrate unsay/ and so obtained their book/ promising notwithstanding/ both to the Magistrate/ and certain off the congregation/ as well to prove by the word of God so much of the book as they would use/ as also to set forth the same in writing/ that they (before the foresaid order should be changed (might judge off the equity thereof. But preferring the joy of their unhoped victory before their promise/ did neither the one because they could not/ neither the other because they durst not. And yet have they not made an end off their triumph. For beginning in march not only to neglect all orders in the election of their Ministers and other officers/ but also to skoff and taunt others in their daily sermons/ do not yet cease as now appeareth by their slanderous and lying letters.  
But to th'end we might be delivered from this unsupportable yoke/ God off his mercy hath provided better for us/ and for this incommodity hath granted us a double benefit in so much that contrary to their hope he hath not only at Basill moved the Magistrates hearts towards us in granting us a church/ but also at Geneva/ where as God's word is truly preached manners best reformed and in earth the chiefest place off true comfort. Thus in few lines I have gone about to satisfy your request bearing with time which hasteth and also following mine own judgement/ which persuadeth me rather to give you a taste off things (which I moved in conscience write as most true) then to fill you with the whole discourse/ which/ if this may not suffice/ you may by continuance have at your commandment. Pray for us brother in this our banishment/ that the fruits of this uncorruptible seed may springe most abundantly/ as we pray continually that our heavenly father would so strengthen you with his spirit of boldness/ that you may not only resist/ but also triumph over all your enemies to the glory of God and the confusion of the adversaries. Know before you judge/ and believe not all fleinge tales/ keep one ear open and report the the best.  
Your William Whittingham.  
WHere as master whittingham in this his letter maketh mention off a church granted them both at Basill and Geneva/ it is to be noted that he himselff was the man which the oppressed congregation required to travel therein and through gods great mercy obtained it with great favour/ who (in his journey) passed by Zurik to know off Master Bullinger what he thought off the book of England for that he (who had raported to master Williams/ Whittingham. Gilbie and others/ that Cranmer Bishop off Canterbury had drawn up a book of prayer an hundredth times more perfect than this that we now have/ the same could not take place/ for that he was matched with such a wicked clergy and convocation/ with other enemies) Even he/ I say/ yet stood in this that master Bullinger did like well off thenglish order/ and had it in his study. But when Whittingham had demanded that question/ Bullinger told him/ that indeed Master H and Master C. asked his judgement concerning certain points off that book/ as Surples/ private baptism. Churchinge off women/ the ring in marriage/ with such like/ which/ (as he said) he allowed not/ and that he neither could if he would/ neither would if he might / use the same in his church/ what so ever had been reported.  
Whittingham passing from thence to Geneva/ master Caluin showed him a letter sent from D. Cox and from 14. more of Franck. in which letter/ they partly excused them selves that they put order in their church without his counsel asked/ and partly rejoicing for that they had (as they said) brought the most part that had withstand their doings to their opinion/ which not withstanding/ was far otherwise.  
They wrote also/ that they had elected a pastor/ 2. Ministers. 4. Seniors. and 2. Deacons/ etc. but how parciallie they proceeded in their elections (those that were in office/ neither discharged/ nor yet their consents required) I leave to the consciences of them which saw those disorders.  
To this letter of there's the contents whereof are above touched/ master Caluin answereth in this wise.  
To the worshippfull my loving brethren in the lord master Richard Cox and the rest off the englishmen which now remain at Frankford.  
Peradventure I answer your letter (worship. friends and brethren) more slowly than either ye hoped or looked for/ but for so much as ye know the ways for a time so to be beset with thenes that no messenger almost could pass from hence to you the excuse of my long delay towards you shallbe the easier.  
I expressed my mind frankly to our beloved brother Thomas Samson/ off that wheroff I was informed by the letters off certain men as touching the contention unluckelie stirred up among you. For certene off my friends found themselves grieved that you would so precisely urge the ceremonies of England/ whereby it might appear that ye are more given and addict to your country then reason would. I confess that I hard certain reasons alledgod on your behalf which would not suffer you to depart from the received order/ but they might be soon and easily confuted Now/ as I counseled mine own friends which dissented from you/ somewhat to yield/ if they might conveniently/ so●t offended me that there was nothing granted or relented on your parts. Because there was no man named unto me/ I durst not entr●prise to meddle with the matter/ least my credit should incur the suspect off ra●henes. Now that ye are more myleder and tractable in this controversy and that ye have (as ye say) stilled the matter with quietness/ I am very glad.  
Verily no man well instructed or off a sound judgement/ will deny (as I think that lights and crossings or such like trifles/ sprang or issued out of superstition/ whereupon I am persuaded that they which retain these ceremonies in a fre● choice/ or when they may otherwise do/ they are over greedy and desirous to drink off the dregs neither do I see to what purpose it is to but ●hen the church with tryfflinge and unprofitable ceremonies/ or as I ma●e term them with their proper name/ hurtful and offensible ceremonies/ when as there is liberty to have a simple and pure order. But I keep in and refrain myself least I should seem to begin to move a new contention of that ma●ter which as you report/ is well ended.  
All good men will allow the Pastors and other Ministers elections with common voices/ so that none complain that the other part of the church was oppressed fraudulently and with crafty practices. For it standeth your wisdoms in hand to consider/ that how much commodity the goodness of the Senate doth deserve/ so much envy shall you be guilty off/ or charged withal/ if you have abused their lenity or gentleness/ which were so well affected towards your nation. Yet/ I would not have this so taken/ that I go about to be prejudicial to any man but I had rather show plainly what may be said/ then to nourish an ill opinion by silence/ or in holding my peace. But certainly/ this one thing I cannot keep secret/ that Master Knox was in my iudgemen neither godly nor brotherly dealt withal/ if he were accused by the subtle suggestion of certain/ it had been better for them to have ●aried still in their own land then unjustly to have brought in to far countries the fierbrande of cruelty to set on fire those that would not be kindled.  
Notwistandinge/ because it grieveth me to speak slightly off these evells/ the remembrance whereof I would wish to be buried in perpetual forgetfulness: therefore/ I only counsel you (not without a cause) to be wounded/ that ye apply yourselves to make them amends for the fault committed.  
When I hard that the one part was minded to depart from thence. 
They begin prevely.  I earnestly admonished them (as it become me) that if they could not well remain there/ that the distance of place should not dissipate/ or rend in sunder their brotherly agreement/ for I feared much lest that some privy grudge off the former contention remained. And certainly/ nothing could more comfort my heart/ then to be delivered from this fear. For if any haply come to us/ it would grieve me that there should be (as it were) but a suspicion of any secret debate between you.  
Therefore as touching that ye have written off your agreement I desire that it may be firm and stable that though it chance the one part to go to an other place/ yet/ that you being so sundered by distance of places may keep sure the holy band off of amity/ for the fault already committed is to much/ although thorough discord it creep no further. Wherefore it shall well be seem your wisdoms (that ye may be friends) to purge diligently what so ever remaineth off this breach.  
Far ye well brethren/ the lord secure you with his aid/ and govern you with his spirit/ power his blessings upon you and mitigate the sorrow of your exile From Geneva this last of may. Anno 1555. Your john Caluin.  
Because that Master Caluin in his letter maketh mention off lights/ some might gather that he was untruly informed/ that in the English book lights were prescribed (the contrary whereof appeareth by the description before) where it is manifest to such as be learned that he useth the figure auxesis/ and that this is his argument/ a maiore ad minus/ for so much as lights and crossings be 2. of the most auncienstest ceremonies/ having continued in the church above 13 hundredth year/ are yet for such causes abolished. how much more aught all other/ that have no● had the like continuance/ and yet abused/ be utterly removed.  
And for that master Caluin in this letter earnestly wished that all strife should cease/ and that if any were minded to depart their departure might be such/ as all occasions of offence might be cut of and clean taken away: it was thought good to such as were determined to go away with in 3. weeks after/ to follow his counsel. And the rather for that some which took themselves/ to be learned/ had openly termed their departure a sisme/ whereupon/ they wrote to the pastor Ministers/ and whole congregation this letter following and delivered it in the open congregation.  
For so much as through the benefit of God/ we have obtained a church in an other place/ we thought it good to advertise you of the same. And to the intent that not only slanderous reports may cease/ but also/ if any offence be either taken or given/ the same may come to trial/ we desire that you for your part would appoint 2· Arbyters and we shall appoint other 2. Who hearing our matters thoroughly opened may witness where the fault resteth/ at which time/ we will undertake/ to defend our departure to be lawful contrary to the slanderous reports off some which unlearnedly term it a schism. Thus far brethren we thought good to signify unto you/ thinking this to be the only means of our mutual quietness whereof how desirous we are/ our tedious and chargeable journey may be a sufficient proof/ being thoroughly persuaded/ that hereby strife may be ended charity revived/ frindshipe continued/ God's glory advanced/ and our brethren edified.  
Far ye well this 27. of August. 

William William's  
William Whittingham  
Anthony Gilby  
Christopher Goodman.  
Thomas Cole.  
john Fox.  
Thomas Wood  
William Kethe.  
john Kelke.  
john Hilton.  
Christ. Soothous  
Nicholas Purfote  
john Escot  
Thomas Crofton  
William Walton  
Laurence Kent  
john Hollingham  
Anthony Carier.    
WHen the Pastor had red this letter openly to the congregation and was desired to know when they should have an answer/ he said unto them that so far as he perceived/ it required none but that which might presently be made/ which was/ that they might depart seeing they were so minded. It was replied that for so much as it was manifest that they had been slandered not only by letters into divers parts/ but also/ by some that then were present/ who had affirmed their departure to be a schism/ and farther/ that they could find no indifferency at their hands: it was thought necessary to commit the hearing off that controversy to learned and indifferent judges/ by both parts to be chosen whereby the fault might appear where it was in deed/ and so they either excused or found guilty.  
D. Cox/ at length/ told them that their letter should be considered off/ and an answer should be given them the friday after. On friday the 30, off August both parts met: The Pastor (accompanied with the Ministers and elders) spoke this unto them. It seemeth very fond that arbytrers should be appointed to take up strife that may come hereafter/ as your letter signifieth. And furthermore/ ye writ/ if any offence be taken or given/ which seemeth as strange/ for this word (if) importethe a doubt/ so that if ye doubt it is but folly to appoint arbiters. finally/ to excuse your departure/ you call them unlearned which judge it a schism but (saith) he) term it as you lift yet can you not let men to think. And if arbiters should pronounce it to be none/ yet men's opinions will be di●●●s.  
Now ●he●fore/ your answer shall be/ that if any man be offended either with any private man/ or publicly/ let him or them complain to us/ or if they refuse us/ to the Magistrate.  
As for Arbitres/ we will appoint none. Then spoke whittingham and said that it was to him no small wonder that men of such learning and wisdom should so shrink in a most equal request/ and so/ without all reason to cavil where no matter was offered. For/ as concerning (saith he) the first point/ it was not unknown to them that at that time/ through their occasion/ their was no small contention/ and that seeing they had given such offence it could not be but that men's minds were moved.  
And therefore/ to th'end that contention should grow no farther/ Arbytres were very necessary/ who needed not to deliberate (as he said) of things to come which were uncertain▪ but as the letter truly purporteth/ off injuries long ago begun/ yet continued/ and here after not like to be ended except some good mean were used to stay their slanderous letters and false reports/ to the utter perishing and loose off men's Good names. 
Wittinghan here interrupted.  And where ye seem to be ofended that the letter should call them unlearned/ which term our departure a schism (you omit said D. Cox the 2. point/ which is off no small importance) to whom he answered that he thought he did them a pleasure in omitting things of so small value/ notwithstanding/ he would obey his will but (saith he) as touching this word unlearnedly/ it was not unadvisedly placed. For either they be without learning/ and therefore may be so called in deed/ or if they bear the name off learning/ yet in this they showed their unskilfulness for as much as every departure from a congregation was not a schism/ neither were any that departed for just causes schismatics as we (saith he) will prove unto you/ if you will take our reasonable and most equal offer. Nay/ saith the pastor/ arbiters in this point can little avail for be it they judged it none/ yet men's thoughts are free/ and we know that all men be not of one mind in sacraments and predestination/ should men therefore take arbiters? Also saith he master Caluin and Bullinger/ be against you. To this was answered/ that thoughts/ if they were not ground upon God's word/ were evil/ neither was this controversy off like force with the matter off the Sacraments and predestination/ notwithstanding/ would to God that not only the difference in those articles but also in all other which be off weight and importance might be decided by the authority of God's word and arbitrement off godly learned men. But men may justly suspect your cause to be naught which refuse the judgements of the wise and godly.  
And where you say that Caluin and Bullinger are against us/ you abuse yourself and there names/ for we know both what they and other write as touching this matter.  
Then the Pastor asked what schisma was but a cutting off from the body/ and that it was Caluins definition. To this Whittingham answered that he would undertake first/ to prove that definition to be false/ and secondly to be nonone of Caluins' definition for if every cutting off from the body should be a schism/ then you and all other which once had sworn to the pope and now have refused him are schismatics. Then the pastor added/ from a church well reformed. Answer was made that a church well reformed must be builded upon the doctrine of the Prophets and Apostles/ the unity whereof S. Paul comprehendeth in these words: one god/ one faith/ one baptism/ not beggarly ceremomies and obscurations/ although that sundry causes beside moved them to depart. Then Master Treherren/ asked whither the donatists were not schismatics.  
Yes/ saith Whittingham and also heretics/ but you are deceived if you think that they separated themselves for ceremonies. It is manifest said Treherren/ that the churches of Asia were excommunicate as schismatics for that they kept not Easter at the same time that the Roman church did. And it is no less evident said Whitthingham that Ireneus and other godly men aswell off that time/ as sithence have sharply reproved and condemned Pope Victor for the same.  
Here D. Cox put Whittingham in remembrance that he had not answered to the faults off the letter. Whittingham told him/ that as touching that poor word (if) he marveled how it could Minister any cavillation/ seeing/ the text joining thereto was so plain/ which declareth both the offences by you given and by us taken. And also your consciences bear you witness/ the thing to be most true except a man will be wilfully blind/ and find a knot in a rush/ so that that word (if) ment not that we do/ doubt who were oppressed with infinite wrongs/ but if they would dissemble so far that they m●ght seem to doubt thereof/ yet/ at the least/ they would abide the trial thereof before these arbiters. But here the disputation broke up with this plain and final answer that arbiters they should have none/ and that if they found themselves grieved/ they should seek remedy where they thought Good and he the Pastor with the rest of the congregation would answer them.  
The next day the Pastor/ D. Cox/ master parry and master Asheley sent for Whittingham/ Thomas Cole john Fox/ William Kethe/ Roger heart/ john Hilton with certain other/ demandinge off them what should be the cause off their departure. Whittingham made answer that the day before they had declared sufficiently/ and yet would farther show reasons/ if they would permit the controversy to arbitrement. And to the intent they should not counterfeit ignorance (among other) these were some causes first/ their breach off promise/ established with invocation of god's name: 2. Their ordreles thrusting themselves in to the church. 3. Taking away the order of discipline established before their coming and placing no other. 4. The accusasion of master Knox their godly Minister of Treason and seeking his blood 5. Their overthrowing off the common order/ taken and commanded by the Magistrate 6. The displacinge of officers without any cause alleged. 7. The bringing in off Papistical superstitions and unprofitable Ceremonies which were burdens yokes and clogs/ beside other things/ which/ if they would abide the trial they should hear at large. When he and some of the rest had rendered their reasons for their departure to this effect/ certain warm words passed to and fro from the one to the other/ and so in some heat departed.  
Not many days after the oppressed church departed from Franck. to Basill and Geneva/ some staying at Basill as master Fox with other. The rest came to Geneva where they were received with great favour and much courtesy/ both off the magistrates Ministers and people. So soon as they entered their church/ they chose Knox and Goodman for their Pastor/ and Gilby requested to suplie the room till Knox returned out of france.  
The learned men which came from all places to Frank. about this matter (when they had done that which they came for/ they returned again from whence they came/ and some to other places/ where they might save charges/ and not to be either burdened or bound to the exercises of the congregation/ so that/ the exile which was to many a poor man full bitter/ grievous and painful/ was (to some of the greatest persecutors of their poor brethetn (as it were/ a pleasant progress or recreation.  
But now it shall be necessary to declare what order was taken in this new erected congregation for the prosperous continuance of the same/ which thing to do/ I cannot by a better mean then placing here this letter following which master coal (late deane of Sarum) wrote to a friend of his/ whiles yet he stayed (behind his company) in Franck. among them, his letter is yet to be seen.  
The holy spirit of God that guideth the children of God in truth and godliness be your comfort through our mercy's seat jesus christ/ now and for ever Amen.  
THe tempest off the swelling seas which in times passed threatened shipwreck to every vessel that sailed with a fair wind and full sails to the port off blessed truth/ which of herself is strong enough/ with out any bar or wall of man's inventions/ are somewhat (the lord be praised) calmed to me ward/ so that without farther reasoning they permit me to my conscience as touching their ceremonies.  
The cause I judge is not for that they bear less love to them then in times past/ but that they perceive the sturdy defending of them/ to work them that they look not for/ or rather/ that which they are loath to see/ namely/ the decreasinge off their company▪ yet they labour with policy what they may or can/ to prevent this danger but yet that which they fear/ I suppose will fall upon them/ unless god give them to repent their old faults and humble them more to know themselves.  
They have set up an university to repair again their estimation by maintenance of learning (which surely is well done) that was fond brought in decay by wilful ignorance/ in defending off ceremonies/ to the which Master horn is chosen to be the reader of the Hebrew lecture/ Master Mullings of the Greek/ and Master Treherren when he is strong/ shall take the divinity lecture in hand. Master Whitthead was appointed thereunto but because he would escape the labour off the lecture (for just causes as he said) he forsook the pastoral office also/ stoutly (as you know) denying to be in office any longer. Great hold there was about this matter in the congregation/ in so much as they hasted to a new election/ and very few (as it seemed) were off a contrary mind/ no/ not his own friends saving Master makebray and Master Sorby/ who desired him to take respite/ and the congregation to give it. But some looking for the office themselves would not in such a matter suffer delay/ but again Demanded off Master Whithead whither he would keep his office or no supposing that he which had so stoutly denied it in word/ would not soon be flexible to the contrary. But he perceiving that some would have had him out one the one side/ and by leaving of it/ his estimation was like to decay on the other side/ (for many rough words were given him) when occasion off entreaty was offered/ non respuit conditionem by that means bringing to himself wittily/ a triple commodity/ one/ the preventing of them which looked for the office/ an other/ the refusal of the divinity lecture/ Thirdly/ a faster growndinge himselff in that office/ which he left in mouth/ but as it seemed/ not in heart. Thus ended that comedy.  
But shortly after (notwithstanding a vehement sermon made for the purgation from man's inventions) the seas begin again to swell (so fickle an element is water) for Master Kent having a child to christian purposing to have it done simply/ without the bewtifinge off men's traditions/ came with his child according to the french order which we once received/ and one to hold it there to profess his faith if it were required/ but the pastor denied the Christening/ unless 2. Godmothers were had after the order off the book/ as concerning the Godfather/ Master Makebray (who is now come to that office) supplied it. A lucky matter is attained at weasel in Westphalia/ a open church for our English men/ to which because of nighness) they fear many will go from hence/ but more will come out of England to it. I pray you commend me to M. Tell him that Master wisdom railed on them that were gone to G. Calling them mad heads with many pretty names/ I will not say unwisely/ But I may well say uncharitably/ in which Sermon/ he showed himself an Antagonist for the book of England/ etc.  
Your Thomas Cole.  
SHortly after these things to weet/ the 6. of jan. When as master Whithead gave up of his own good will/ as he said/ the pastoral office/ Master horn was in the election to succeed him/ who protested that he would not meddle therewith/ till he were cleared off certain suspicions which some had bruited to the discredit off his ministery/ and obtaining his request/ he with the Seniors entered the church the first of march Anno Domini 1556. were they received all such persons (as members of that church) which were contented to subscribe and submit themselves to the orders off the same. From which time forward the troubles and contious were so sore among them/ that who so shall well way it with due consideration/ I ween/ he shall think it to be the just judgement of our righteous God that fell upon them/ for supplanting a church there before them in great quietness and off much sincerity.    

The history of that stir and strife which was in in the English church at Frankford from the 13. day off jan. Anno Domini 1557. forward.  
THere fell a certain controversy the xiii. day off jan. at supper between Master Horn the Pastor and Master Asheley which controversy was handled/ with somewhat more sharp words than was meet/ but yet they so departed/ by the industry and labour off some certain persons/ that they drank wine one to an other/ and all that strife and contention was thought to be wholly taken away. Afterwards/ to wit/ the 16. day off jan. at one of the clock in the after noon/ three of th'elders sent for Master Asheley in to an house off one of the Elders and they began to debate the matter with him touching an injury done/ not to the pastor alone/ but to all the Elders (as they affirmed) and to their ministry which thing/ Master Asheley denied that he ever did at any tyme.  
The next day being the 17. of jan. After that public prayers were ended/ Master Asheley was by the Pastor and all the Elders called into the church/ and there/ in the name of them all it was objected unto him/ that he had spoken upon the 13. day off jan. in supper while/ certain words tending to the slander of them and their ministry.  
Ashely answered that he perceived and understood that they all were offended as in their own matter/ and that therefore he wou●de n●t answer before them as competent judges of the cause/ but would refer the cause/ that he had against the Pastor and them (seeing they showed themselves an adversary part to him) to the whole church and Ecclesiastical discipline. Then the Pastor exhorted him that he would not so proceed/ for if he so did/ that then they were minded to seek and demand help off the magistrate against him A●ter that the 24. of jan. Asheley himselff handled his own cause in his own name before the pastor and elders/ and then in the afternoon/ he sent 2. men of the church who/ in his name require the pastors and elders that they would not proceed against him in that cause/ wherein they themselves were a part/ and therefore not f●tt or competent judges/ but to give over the whole ma●ter to 8. or 10. men upright in conscience and inclining to neither part/ by whose judgements/ if he were found in fault/ he would willingly submit himself to all Ecclesiastical discipline. Answer was made him by the Pastor in the name of them all/ that they had received their authority from the whole church and would retain and keep the same till such time as they from whom they had received it would again demand it. And in the mean while/ they purposed to proceed thereafter against all such as had offended and so much the more severely and sharply against Master Asheley/ by how much it might be more profitable for the whole church/ to make him being a wors●hipfull man/ a ensample to others to take heed and beware by asheley (that answer being received the 26. of jan. Which was a day off solemn prayer) fearing those things which Horn had said before/ theateninge him with the Magistrate/ when common prayer was ended declared the whole ma●ter to the church and desired that the church would understand off the whole matter between the pastor and elders/ as the one party and himself as tother.  
Whereupon certain men did in the name off the whole church demand off the pastor and elders whither they were a part against Asheley. The pastor answered in all their names that they were not a part against him/ but that Asheley had slandered them all. Again/ it was demanded in the name off the church who were his accusers/ to which/ when the pastor answered nothing/ neither in his own name/ nor in the name of the seniors: Asheley was commanded by the church publicly and openly to read those things which he had comprehended in writing concerning his cause. Afterwards the pastor and elders were asked whither those things which Asheley had red were true. The pastor answered in all their names that they would not answer either more largely or any otherwise/ to any questions than they had erwhile answered and so the congregation was dismissed without answer/ yet not with out contempt as was thought. The same day at afternoon/ Master Hales/ who was absent when these things were done) understanding that this matter tended to more grievous strife and contention/ did write his letters to some certain persons that seemed desirous of the peace of the church/ and desired/ that they would come together the next day after to the church/ to consult/ and deliberate what were the best way to pacify this trouble and turmoil before it waxed more strong/ or should be more published abroad and made better known to the senate or magistrates.  
The very drift and purpose of the letters/ together with them that were called/ as them also which came to the place appointed/ doth appear by the letters themselves/ the copy whereof insewethe.  
The superscription. To his brethren of the English church. 

Master Crawley  
Master Railton  
Master warcope.  
Master Falconer  
Master Nowell  
Master Carell.  
Master Kent  
Master Kelke  
Master Davies  
Master Benthame  
Master Brikbeke.  
Maistee Sutton.  
Master Christ. Hales.   john Hales sendeth greeting in the lord.  
I Hear brethren/ that which is to me grievous to hear/ to wit/ that striffes' are arisen in our church/ which tend either to the dissolution of the church/ or to the hurt and destruction of the poor/ wherefore I pray you whose names are in the subscription of the letters/ that (if you shall so think good) we may meet to morrow in the morning in our church/ there to consult and take advise what may be the best way to quiet this stir/ to the glory of God and our own quietness. god give us his peace.  
This 26. of jan. 1557. Your loving brother john Hales.  
I pray you/ that so many of you as will met at the time and place appointed to put down your names/ jest some parhap may come in vain.  
Now all those whose names are before rehearsed came except master warcope.  
After consultation and advise taken/ it seemed best to all them that were called together and met there/ that the next day after/ one off them in all their names should deal with the Pastor and elders/ that sith Ashley complained that they were adversary part unto him/ they would suffer the church/ or some such certain persons as the church should appoint/ to take knowledge of the cause/ and to hear first whither they were an adversary part to Ashley which though they were not found to be/ then the knowledge of the matter should be put back again to them and that with the ignominy and shame of him that had appealed from them. But if they were found to be adversary part/ that than it should seem unjust/ that they should sit in their own cause as judges/ but more meet and upright it would be/ that then the church should know and understand off the whole matter/ whereupon the next day after/ that is to say/ the 18 of jan. when prayers were ended/ the matter was proposed to the pastor and Elders/ by one appointed for that purpose. When this counsel was once known/ the minister by the consent off the Elders drew out of his bosom a decree which the magistrate of that city had made/ and red it with a loud voice before the whole church. The decree being red he added in grave words/ that these our assemblies and meetings would be very dangerous no● to us only but to all the congregations of strangers. for it was greatly to be feared lest the magistrate being offended with such meetings/ did not shut up the gates of our church alone/ but also of all the strange churches And therefore that he (to th'end he might in good season provide for such dangers) would surely by Ecclesiastical discipline handle according to his desert/ master Halee (who then by occasion of sickness was absent) the author of that assembly/ and that he would pronounce of us generally/ that if it were not schismatical/ yet/ that it did without doubt tend to schism/ how so ever we excused our minds and purposes. moreover he affirmed/ that we had done very ill/ in that we had excluded/ and shut out certain which came in to the church in the time of our consultation and meetinge· Answer was made in the names of the church/ that that decree off the magistrate was by them before both read over thoroughly/ vnd also very diligently weighed/ and that they judged that decree to be most upright and justly to be feared off wicked and lewd men/ such as were sectaries and factious persons and that they did assuredly know that the threats of that decree did nothing at all concern them who were met together to make peace and unity/ and that they for this deed did so little fear the anger and displeasure of the magistrates that they trusted the magistrate would praise them for this matter/ if perhaps he knew off the thing itself and that therefore they were assembled and come together that the whole matter might be quietly ended among themselves and not brought before the magistrate. for where we (say they) were banished men/ and had by the means off a very good magistrate/ received that singular and most excellent benefit of rest and quietness/ we should do that which should be most unfit and unseemly for us/ if we should by occasion of our striffes' and hurley burlies/ trouble the magistrate/ and to tender unto that very good Magistrate unquietness/ troubles and stirs which should be very evil thanks/ for so great a benefit of quietness and rest as we have received. And we affirmed that we so much the more dililigentlie and willingly laboured in pacifiing and ending this controversy because there were amongst us certain/ who rashly and with out advise/ brought unto the Magistrate all light and small controversies/ which might easily have been determined and ended among ourselves/ herein deserving no favour at all either at the the hands off so Good a Magistrate/ whom they oft-times without cause troubled/ or of their country men whom they by these their privy complaints and accusations did among stranger's slander as unquiet and troublesome men/ and that they had done no less displeasure to the gospel we profess/ (which by occasion off such accusations/ is commonly evil spoken off among the adversaries) then to that so good a magistrate and to their own country men. And that we therefore (to th'end the Magistrate might not be troubled/ nor our nation slandered as unquiet and troublesome/ nor the word of God through us evil spoken off) met together to take counsel and avise how all the matter might be peaceably ended and for no other cause or purpose. And where it was objected that in that decree off the Magistrate there was no mention at all made/ either off the whole church/ or off the authority off whole church: We answer (say they) that we do not so interpret the Magistrates decree/ as though it were the Magistrates mind and pleasure to take from the church the right and authority due to the Church and make the whole Church subject to some certain persons. For we both well enough know by the example of the french church in a like controversy/ and we have tried that so very good a Magistrate hath very great care off the church. And as concerning Ma●ster Hales/ it was answered/ that he was then absent/ by reason off his sickness/ and not for fear/ or that he was guilty to himself off any ill.  
And concerning our whole purpose and business/ because it was said though our minds perhaps were upright/ yet the deed itself was/ if not schismatical/ yet verily tending to schism/ answer was made in all our names that we would tender account aswell of our minds and purpose before God/ as of our deed before the whole church/ and that under peril and pain off the last punishment that Ecclesiastical discipline can appoint/ or if the matter so r●qui●e/ before the civil Magistrate in pain off our life. And as touching them that were not admitted in to the church/ to our consultation/ it was answered that we were unjustly accused/ for that it was not a public and common assembly of the whole church. But a meeting of some certain persons to consult of that which might be profitable/ and that therefore they had no greater injury done than in not being at the consultation to which they were not called or sent for/ then if had not been admitted in to some certain private stone or house. for as touching the church/ seeing it was then empty and void of people/ it was/ as it were/ a private house. Neither is every assembly met there to be counted the church. For when the pastor or some other readeth there a lecture/ or moderateth the disputations/ it is not then a church but a school. And therefore/ not the place/ but the company off men gathered together did make a church or congregation. Afterwards/ it was scarcely by many words obtained off the pastor and Seniors/ that the church might without their favour and good will meet together for the finishing and taking up of this controversy/ and uprightly determine whether the said pastor and elders were an adversary part to ashley yea or not which thing yet at the length the pastor and elders granted to the church. And the pastor and Elders being required and desired that they would together be present with us in the congregation/ they answered that there was no such need/ neither that they would at any hand● hinder us. The next day after/ to wit/ the 29. of jan. the pastor and Elders agreeing thereto/ as is said before/ when the whole church was met together/ master hales/ who then was somewhat better/ and was present when they began to take advise and counsel/ rose up and spoke to this purpose. My brethren (saith he) seeing I am accused of the pastor before the whole church/ as the author of schism or of a schismatical fact/ or at the lest rending to schism/ if you also judge of me in like sort I will depart out of this company/ as one being unmeet to tarry among you in this assembly. This being said/ he addressed himself to depart/ Afterwards/ he was called back by all the men there assembled and entreated to abide amongst them. afterward he drew forth those letters by which he had called certain men together to make peace and end the stir/ as is before said/ and preferred them to the church to be openly red. Which letter being red/ that/ his deed was judged off all them that were present/ both honest and most meet for a Christian man neither that any man that had called either others to make peace by their meeting/ was for such a fact to be accounted a schismatic. Then they were all desired/ that seeing they had so judged and determined/ they would appoint this their sentence to be registered and put down in writing/ that it might stand in steed of a record and testimony/ not for Master Hales only but for all other in the like case/ and with all/ that this new and present upstartinge matter might by their judgements be decided and ended lest it might bring forth and stir w new contentions among them. Whereupon it was put down in writing to this effect. though two/ four/ eight/ twelve or more or less/ meet in the church when it was void off people/ prayer and other exercises/ or else in private houses to make peace between some members of the church/ or to consult off any other thing profitable for the church that that their deed and act should not in any case be judged or esteemed unorderly/ seditious/ schismatical/ or tending to schism.  
Neither that he which either by writing or word of mouth had so called them together should be thought to be the author off any schism or a schismatical fact or tending to schism and division. And because now no place of speaking in the congregation without offence did seem any more to be left to any man/ it was ordained the said 29. of jan. that it should be lawful for any man having before desired/ off the pastor/ elders/ and whole church licence and liberty to speak/ to show his judgement and opinion in the church without any reproach of a disordered deed therefore/ so it be/ that he did it godly quietly and soberly▪ if he should speak any ungodly thing that then it was lawful for the pastor and Seniors/ or any of them forthwith to command him to hold his tongue. The last day of jan. being the Sabath day after morning prayer was ended/ pardon was offered of all private offences/ by the pastor in his own name and the name off the elders to all the people of the church and in like sort the people were desired to pardon them yet in such sort this was done that the Pastor and Elders would reserve to themselves such causes as concerned their ministery/ to be pursued and followed of them. It was answered again in our names off the church that we in like sort did pardon all men/ all private grudges/ yet/ that the church did according to their example reserve unto itself public causes belonging to the church and the liberty thereof quietly and Christianly to be pursued and followed/ which answer although it were measured by the rule off that pardon and forgiveness which the pastor had before offered/ yet/ it did no white at all please him which thing also I warrant you he did not dissemble. Afterwards/ the pastor and elders suffered that the same day in the afternoon/ the church should again meet/ and should try out and know the matter between them and Asheley/ to wit/ whither they were an adversary part/ to Ashley yea or not/ But the Pastor and Elders being desired that they also would be present/ they would not thereto agreed. Wherefore the church being gathered together in the afternoon/ it was judged by the testimony of some meet men and by this also/ that in the whole church there could no other be found that would accuse Ashley but the pastor and elders (for it was 3. times very diligently inquired of and published among the people/ that if their were any in the whole church which either would or could accuse master Ashley/ he should then uter it) It was I say judged and determined that the Pastor and Elders/ were an adversary part to Master Ashley and that therefore they were not fit and competent judges in that matter. Furthermore/ it was fully decreed that the Pastor and elders in such causes as in which they were an adversary part were not fit arbiters or judges/ but that such causes did appertain and belong/ either to the knowledge of the congregation or off such as the congregation would appoint to that purpose. And because the pastor and elders have been oftentimes desired to be present with us and yet would not (notwithstanding that they themselves suffered the congregation to meet together) least parhapp some deceit might be among many of the congregation as though it were not off itself lawful/ or to small purpose to appoint any thing with out the pastor and elders (which thing afterward tried) it was decreed that though the pastor and elders were required to be present at an assembly and would not come/ that the assembly was lawful notwithstanding their absence/ and that those things which they decreed should be had and esteemed as a lawful decree. These Ecclesiastical decrees and ordinances/ which even now we rehearsed were subscribed unto with the names off 33. persons which is a great deal the bigger part of the church/ and the 2. of February were offered up to the pastor and Elders in the name off the whole church with this protestation following. 
Master Not well was the mouth for the rest.  We present unto you these our decrees and ordinances agreeing with right and reason and not contrary to the holy scriptures/ desiring to have you know them and further requiring that you would with us consent/ yield and subscribe to the same. Or if ye will not so do/ show we pray you upright reasons and good causes why ye refuse. For we are ready to correct and amend our faults if they be showed us/ at the monition of any private person/ but much more at yours the pastor and Elders. For as we desire their wisdoms to come to perfect truth: so we will not through stubbornness defend any error/ being showed unto us to be an error in deed. Yet notwithstanding/ afterward upon in the aforesaie day of February/ the Pastor did in his own name and in the name off the Elders/ openly read certain written letters to which he and the Seniors had before in the presence of the church subscribed their names. The sum thereof was this. seeing the church had left unto them a vain shadow only of authority without any other matter/ that therefore they did in our presence shake off from themselves and utterly forsake all Ecclesiastical ministery and service to the church.  
Among other things they added this that we had given them a cause to complain of us to the magistrates/ but that for our sakes they world not do it. Afterwards some of them departed and sat down in private men's places/ neither would they suffer so much as to be called by the name off pastors and Elders. Then one in the name off the whole/ having fully showed before/ that there was no just cause given them by the church/ so to forsake their ministery/ did afterward in the name of the whole church very earnestly desire them that they would not in such manner forsake and leave the church that had deserved no such thing at their hands.  
This was with most e●rneste and effectual words required of them/ three or four times in the name off the whole church/ but they remained wilful and obstinate in their purpose/ not so much as once suffering themselves to be called by the name off pastors and elders. Then at the length/ it was showed unto them in the name off the whole church/ that the church would not admit that their forsaking of their ministery/ but would still take and esteem them for their pastor and Elders. And when one in the name off the church did accuse the pastor and Chambers to be such as had abused the church/ leaving it and forsaking it in such manner without any cause or reason showed/ and did in the name off the church desire them to make answer unto him concerning this their deed/ they utterly refused the same. But horn who then was Pastor/ hastily taking a pen/ wrote to this purpose in a piece of paper in his own name and in the name off the elders. Where as we are urged and pressed by one in the name off the church to make answer/ we generally answer/ that when so ever we shall be ordinarily demanded before the church or them which the church shall appoint/ we will then answer/ or if we shall be called before the civil magistrate we will there answer. other answer then this they would give none/ to any of the questions which we had proposed in all our names of the church. (and they assigned this writing by putting to their names) where as in deed this was not only to answer nothing at all/ but also to pretend a cloaked cause of answering nothing at all. Moreover/ they were desired in the name of the church that they would deliver to the church the letters signed with their own hands/ by which they had showed their renounsall and denying of the ministery: or if they would not do that/ that then against a certain day they would grant and give to the church a copy thereof. But neither would they give them the letters which they had in their bosom neither would promiss any copy to the church/ who most earnestly required the same of them. At the last/ the pastor and elders departed/ some certain few following them/ but the multitude remained and so farrforthe as they could remember/ committed to writing the acts off that day and the sum of those letters (by which the Pastor and Elders had willingly put themselves from the ministery) and for witness subscribed thereto with thirty and there names. The next day after/ that is/ the 3. of February the Pastor and Elders being called off the church by the Deacon/ to entreat off making peace/ they came together and met. But the Pastor and elders set them down in private places. Afterwards/ the pastor (because one speaking in the congregation did not by and by so soon as he bade him hold his peace) feigned that he would depart. But when he perceived that very few followed him/ and by some consailed/ he returned/ and suddanly placed himself in the pastors place/ and called the elders to him/ which thing/ before he had refused to do although he were by the whole church very instantly and earnestly required thereto. Then/ he spoke to this effect: we in deed (saith he) did displace ourselves from the ministery/ not withstanding/ absolutely and fully we did it not/ but under this condition only/ if you should proceed to deal in such sort as you have done against the old and received discipline. Now than/ if ye go forward as you have appointed and purposed/ then will we wholly and altogether displace ourselves from our ministries/ but if you will obey the old discipline than will we continue pastor and elders as we are. Answer was made that there was nothing at all contained in the old discipline/ whereby they might meddle with/ or proceed against the pastor and elders/ if parhapps they were found faulty and in some offence. Moreover/ that there was nothing put down concerning such causes/ as in which the pastor and elders were an adversary part/ and therefore it was desired that they would suffer the discipline in that behalf to be amended and to be made more perfect. Now the pastor being offended as it should seem/ with so free speech would imediatlie again have been gone/ and ran even to the church door/ but yet seeing but few following him/ by the counsel and advise off certain persons he returned/ and sat himself down in the pastors place with the seniors.  
And in like sort/ by and by again upon the sudden/ he ran for the third time/ but within a little while after here turned and planted himself in the pastors accustomed place. Afterwards entreaty was made with the pastor and elders in the name off the church/ that they would suffer Ashleis' cause (in which matter they themselves were found at the length to be an adversary part) and the hearing thereof to come before the church/ And that the church would (if Ashley were found faulty) very sharply and severely punish him/ and in this behalf abundantly satisfy the pastor and Elders and all good men. But the pastor and Elders would at no hand suffer that. And as concerning the amending off the discipline/ the pastor said that he and the elders with certain others by the authority of the church being joined unto them would (if the church so thought good▪ amend the discipline. But answer was made unto both/ in the name off the church. First that it was very unjust that/ the church should not be suffered to have judgement and determination. For thereby the authority and right of church was wholly as it were/ taken from the church. To the second it was answered that sith such ordinances and decrees were to be made/ as by which the Pastor and Elders should be hereafter detained in duty (some of them also being already accused) it should be unjust dealing to admit them to the framing and making off such decrees. And when they affirmed they would answer no other thing/ and they were desired to suffer those things to be committed to writing which were done already/ they would not agreed/ but the pastor saying he was a cold made himself ready to depart/ and going his way a few following him/ he pronounced/ that he dissolved the assembly. But the company that tarried in the church and wrote the doings of that day by their decree/ and appointed 8. men to amend the discipline/ and Afterwards to offer it the church to be seen of them/ did also appoint other. 8. men (of which 8. three/ always stuck the pastor) arbitres and judges to decide the cause between the pastor and elders/ and Ashley. These are their names. master Railton/ master Warcope/ M. Kelke M. falconer/ M. Bentham M. Cockroft/ M. Carell and M. Wison. Three of these were addicted the to pastor but M. Bentham and M. Kelke always showed themselves indifferent and equal to both sides. From that time forward the pastor and elders and certain others being often times called of the church/ by the Deacons and certain other to entreat of making peace and agreement/ would never apeere or be present.  
moreover the pastor and the Deacons/ and certain painful poor men/ ceased both from preaching and also the Ecclesiastical lectures and other ordinary functions and charges which they aught to have executed/ neither would they come to solemn and public prayers in the church. notwithstanding the church yet through God's favour observed both public prayers/ sermons and Ecclesiastical lectures/ and all other things accustomed and minded to keep them so long as the godly Magistrates should suffer and grant the same. And no other matter did so much spread abroad throughowt the city as the fame and report off our striffes' and as the deed of master Horn and Master Chambers. For when they off themselves had forsaken the church and had by their example stirred up some other with their families to do the like/ and some off these now frequented and went/ partly to the french church/ and partly to the Germany churches/ the matter now could not any longer be hid and in secret seeing it was published and known not thorough the city alone/ but the fame thereof ran to other strangers also▪ which matter and business with their brethren/ would to God they had chosen rather to have had it ended quietly and peaceably in their own church/ then in such troublesome sort to have consulted so greatly/ both to their own dishonesty and ours. The fourth day of February which was Thursdaie and appointed for public prayer/ the pastor who that day should have preached/ and all the Elders were absent. Now the pastor being before by the Deacon desired in the name off the church that either he himselff would preach or appoint some other in his place/ made answer/ that neither would he preach himself nor appoint any other. For that matter did nothing at all belong unto him. After prayers were ended some there were that disputed and reasoned in the pastors behalf and said/ that that assembly which remained after the pastors departure (in as much as he had authority to call together the church and to break up the assembly and he going his way said/ that he broke up that assembly) was no lawful assembly. To whom it was (in the name off the church) answered/ that Master Horn had put out himself from his pastoral duty/ and therefore/ both for that matter and many other recited before among the Act. of the 2. day of Feb. he had not any authority/ or any manner of right either to gather together or to break up the assembly. And although it were granted that he were their lawful pastor/ yet/ it was affirmed that the church was above the pastor and not the pastor above the church and that therefore though the pastor departed/ before the acts off that day were confirmed/ and pronounced that he broke up the assembly yet was the assembly which remained and tarried behind a lawful assembly/ and had authority to make effectual decrees/ by which they might bind all and every member of the church with out exception. And that this question (whither the pope was above the church or the church above the pope) was stirred up in the councils of constance and Basill/ and was decided also by the authority of the school off paris joined thereto. Now they which reasoned in the pastors behalf did seem by the space off certain days after/ to approve these 2. councils/ for they placed the pastor above the church. They brought forth openly all the old store and household stuff of Pighius and Eckius of the primacy of the pope under the name off the Pastoral authority and for the proof thereof. The acts and disputations of that day were in testimony/ signed and confirmed with two and thirty names. The 5. of Februa. Master horn and the seniors being required off the congregation by a deacon to come and treat off reconciliation would not appear. After this there were 3. Messengers sent from the congregation unto them/ off whom/ one was to be specially reverenced off all that be off the congregation both for his age and gravity/ the other● specially well learned/ to the intent they should be moved by these so honest a company off Messengers sent by the congregation. These men/ when they had in the church's name instantly desired/ and prayed them that they would come to the congregation and there common brotherly among themselves for a quiet agreement to be had/ so as the matter might not come to the magistrates ears/ nor be bruited any farther abroad to the great infamy of our nation/ could do no good with them at all. for they said they would not come unless they were ordinarily called. As for other answer at that present they would make none. When this answer was declared to the congregation/ it was determined that for asmuch as R Horn had openly put himself out off his pastorshipp by writing subscribed with his own hand/ and confirmed the same by words and deeds in long abstaining from preaching and other pastoral functions/ and affirming that such matters were no point off his charge. In as much as now being called of the church/ he will not appear/ and so absteinethe all together from public prayers and all Ecclesiastical meetings: And for asmuch also as the Seniors come not at the meetings of the church/ least the congregation through the forwardness of the said Robart Horn and absence of the Seniors/ being void and destitute of common prayer/ preaching/ and reading the scriptures should be utterly dissolved/ that certain men should take charge off the church and for all things to be done in the congregation as it hath by God's goodness been yet hitherto done.  
other decrees also which are specified in the Acts off the ●. day of Februa. they established: all which every one that was present confirmed by his name subscribed with his own hand/ as they were wont to do in other acts and decrees. And to the decrees off that day subscribed 33. hands. But in this beha●ff both master Horn and master Chambers and other in their behalf did find very much fault with us/ for that we had proceeded unordinarilie/ that is (you must understand) contrary to the old discipline. For where they could not justly find fault with those things that the church had done/ they made cavillation at the manner off doing off things as an unordinary manner. And we answered as well many other things grew now by occasion off that matter/ as this chief: in case Master Chambers or any other man/ either would or could show any ordinary way in the old discipline whereby the congregation/ or any other might com● mence matter/ and proceed against him or against a Senior or Seniors being accused: or how we might proceed ordinarily according to the old discipline in causes/ wherein he and the seniors were the one part as they now were proved to be: And if Master Horn/ or any other man either would or could show the title or words in the old Discipline/ wherein this ordinary way is set forth and contained: Then we would confess thut we had gone amiss out of the ordinary way and old discipline. But if neither he nor any other would or could show in deed/ that they would not be discontent at us that reduced the congregation to their right authority and amended that old discipline as athinge amiss/ or filled it up as a thing unperfect and brought the matter to the hearing off the church as it aught to be: And that they would at length give over to vaunt them selves so of the order which they never had/ or to blame us hereafter for proceeding unordinarely. The sum of this answer/ we divided in to certain Articles/ and sent them privately to Master Horn to peruse/ requiring his answer to the same vnd also we sticked them upon the pulpit in the church where they remained a great many days. And where it was required in that same writing that Master Horn/ or the Seniors or some other man should make answer unto these matters/ there is no man yet hitherto that hather made any answer/ either by word or by writing/ saving that Master Horn falling to his old general answer/ said/ he would make answer when he were ordinarily called or questioned with for by this shift he thinketh he undoth all doubts at once/ where as in deed/ to answer after that sort/ is to answer nothing at all/ but to pretend false causes to hold his tongue when he is able to show no reason for himself. For this was his meaning that he is not ordinarily called nor questioned with all/ nor accused ordinarily/ saving only before himself/ and the Seniors as judges/ Where as they both in their giving over off their ministry/ and in the principal cause against master Ashley were the adversary part so that by his judgement there is no ordinary way to meddle against the pastor and Seniors except they call themselves to be hearers of their own cause and their own judges themselves. For other ordinary way against the pastor and Seniors in that old discipline of theirs/ neither he nor any other shall be able to show.  
After this/ when those 8. Persons which were appointed by the Church to hear the variance between Master Horn and Master Chambers one thoneside/ and Master Asley one the other side/ should proceed in the hearing off that matter/ Master Horn and Master Chambers which had absented themselves now 11. days from the church were commanded by the Magistrate the 12. of February (for that day/ they and certain others were seen with the Magistrate) that they should in no wise come at our church. when we hard off it/ we had marvel/ first that the matter was come to the Magistrates ear (for Master Horn and the rest testified the 2. of February by their own hand writing/ that they would never open it to the Magistrate) and secondarily/ seeing Master Horn and Master Chambers could by no means be entreated to come to the church it seemed awonder that it was commanded by the Magistrates that they should not come/ as though they had been desirous to come/ which in deed needed not.  
Therefore/ the most part thought that that commandment was obtained by their own suit/ at the Magistrates hands/ both that such persons as knew not the matter/ should be persuaded that it was long off the Magistrates commandment that they did not their offices in the Church. Where as before this Commandment was given they had off a purposed frowardness absented themselves now already more than ten days from the congregation. And also beside/ that the congregation might not proceed against them seeing the Magistrate commanded them that they should not appear. And this was the very let in deed why the congregation proceeded not in hearing and determining off the variance between Master Horn and Chambers of the one party and Ashley on the other.  
And in this they burden us maliciously with out cause/ As though we would have Ashley rid from judgement of that matter/ and as though that were the only thing which was sought in our contention/ where as in deed it was long of them that his cause was not determined. Wetherfore/ having knowledge of this matter/ for fear lest we should be falsely accused/ as though we had uttered it to the Magistrate/ and had seemed/ first to have accused our brethren unto the Magistrate/ which we might not abide to do/ assembled together in the church the 13. of Februar. and there was openly recited in writing this that followeth. Forasmuch as our contention is already bruited abroad not only through this city but also come to the Magistrates ear (for we hear say that master Horn and master Chamber were commanded by the magistrate yester day that is the 12. of Febr. that they should in no wise come at the congregation till the magistrate had fuller knowledge of the ma●ter) we profess that neither Master Horn nor Master Chamber nor no man else was complained upon to the magistrate by us or any of us/ or by our means/ but that we sought rather by all diligent endeavour/ that the matter should not come abroad/ but that all matters might have been secretly agreed among our selves and that we would all men should understand by this our writing. This done/ those that knew themselves to be of an upright conscience in this behalf were required to set their hands to that writing/ and so there were 37 hands subscribed as appeareth in the acts off the 13. of Febru. And were Master Horn and Master Chamber being so often desired by all instant means off the congregation that they would be content to have all ma●ters pacified among ●e by brotherly communication/ did never suffer themselves to be ●alked with all off any matter/ least they should afterward allege to such as knew not the matter/ that they did it off force because off the magistraies commandment/ which forbade them to come to the congregation. All the time wherein they absented themselves/ and contemned so many desires and intreties of the church to have met upon agreement making/ before any commandment was given them off the magistrate (which commandment notwithstanding may seem that they at length for the causes before mentioned procured themselves) was recorded among the Acts off that 13. of Febru and confirmed by the testimonies of 37. names subscribed as in the act app●arethe more at large.  
The 14 of Febru. those 8. which were appointed the ●. off Febru: by the congregation to amend the discipline/ presented the book of the Discipline to the congregation again and the congregation allowed it. And those matters that were altered or augmented in the discipline were such as specially pertained to those causes/ wherein the pastor and seniors were the one part/ and how it must be proceeded against the pastor and seniors/ in case any of them were accused. For concerning these things there was never a word in the old discipline. And where in the old discipline there was no certain mention/ how the church should be governed/ and seeing master Horn and other had now utterly forsaken the congregation/ who in leaving there offices had driven away with them the most part of them that were appointed preachers/ and disposing off the church money/ were more largely and more truly set forth and expressed.  
For where master Chamber had authority to gather all godly men's almese for the poor of the congregation confirmed unto him (as he himself required) in writing/ signed by the pastor and seniors and certain other of the chief men of the church with their own hands/ and had exercised the same gathering now a year/ and half/ that he alone/ should receive all/ he alone distribute/ and be accountable to no man and he alone to be privy to the money/ that matter) were he never so faithful a man) seemeth very suspicious to him and hurtful to the church/ if he should die suddanly as the state of man is casual: And the example also should seem pernicious to the church lest parhapp an other man off small fidelity should by the same reason draw all the church money in to his own only hands.  
And for as much as the Deacons (unto whom the charge off the church money seemeth to appertain by the word of God/ and by the example of all rightly instituted churches) in our congregation had not a mite to bestow: for their were made Deacons honest men in deed/ but yet such as for their poveritie seemed not fit men to whom the common money should be committed: and by that colour Master Chamber thought he might with out controlinge receive all the common money in his own hands alone. The congregation thought good to have a deaconshipp appointed more uprightly according to the rule described in the Acts of the Apostles/ and the example of other Godly instituted churches/ and to the intent the Church money might be meddled with all by the Deacons with out all suspicion it is provided in the amending off the discipline that such men should be chosen Deacons/ as be not only off a most approved Good fidelity/ but also such as were able handsomely to live off their own without any need off the Church's Alms. And in deed this seemed to be now so much the more necessary/ for that many complained: some that the alms which they received before privately off private friends was taken up by the way/ sithence Master Chamber began to gather/ as in deed Master Horn then Pastor threatened openly out of the pulpit in his Sermon saying that he would stop all men's vents (as he termed it) and receipts. Again/ some complain that they could have naught at Master Chambers hand/ but after beseeching and unreasonable long delais/ some that they could have nothing with out bitter upbraids and some/ that they could obtain nothing of gift but only of loan/ and other some that they could get naught at all. So that now it seemed requisite of necessity to seek some remedy for these misheves. All which complaints we shall be constrained off extreme necessity to put in to one several piece of work touching the whole matter and communicating it to good men. And concerning the Discipline/ seeing there was no certain express way in the old discipline how the congregation should be governed/ neither could any long quietness endure so long as Master Horn had the government by that discipline. And seeing now Master Horn and Master Chambers have utterly forsaken the Church/ not only themselves/ but also have drawn away with them many other/ and of them/ the most part such as were appointed preachers and readers of the Scriptures: so as they might plainly appear to seek nothing else but that the congregation being destitute of preaching and reading (as though it could not stand with out those men) should be utterly broken up/ the congregation was off necessity enforced to devise and provide for some certain way for the governing off the church/ whereby the congregation might be set at a firm and a constant quietness.  
After this 14. of Februar. preachers off the french and Flemishe Churches and Master Valeran pullain came to the congregation with the Magistrates edict. The meaning of the edict was/ that Ma●ster Horn/ Master Chambers/ Master Isaac and the rest of the Seniors should be restored into their former full authority and that Master Horn should do the office of pastor/ and they off Seniors in our church till the Magistrates might have the hearing and determining off the matter more at large. And it was commanded/ that all such men as had any thing to say against Master Horn and the rest should exhibit the same to the Magistrate in writing. Master Horn/ the decree being read consulting first with some of his complices/ as in a new matter that he never knew before/ said to this effect: that he was ready to obey the honourable Magistrate/ as con●cerninge other functions belonging to the Pastor/ that is to say consultations with the Seniors and administration of discipline/ but he would not meddle with preaching/ because his ministery was infamed by some men/ he could not do it with out the offence of himself and off many. Answer was made in the Church's name for that the honourable Magistrate had sent the Seniors again to the Church/ the church was glad of it. For they were all sorry for their departure and now were very joyous of their coming again. Concerning Master Horn for so much as he refused the chief part of the Pastor's office wherein he hath behaved himself well (if in any thing well) that is/ in the office of preaching. Again/ where he would take upon him that part wherein he is justly reprehended/ as wanting discretion/ and soberness therein/ that is/ the administration off Ecclesiastical discipline with the Seniors/ he over shooteth himself in both these points.  
Therefore in as much as he exempteth himself from that office wherein he might profit the congregation: the congregagation in like case will not admit him to that office wherein he both ill behaved himself before/ as the congregation (if need be) shall declare unto the Magistrates: wherein likewise the congregation cannot admit Master Chambers to the office of Senior for certain Causes. And for the rest off the Seniors/ We (say they) give unto the Magistrates right humble thanks.  
This done/ those 3. men which came unto them with the Magistrates edict/ did earnestly exhort/ first in the magistrates name and eftsoons in their own/ to fall to a quiet agreement among themselves/ for that were more honesty then to accuse one an other unto the congregation: Which thing/ as it is most unworthily of Christian men/ so is it unto us specially that profess ourselves banished for the gospel sake. Answer was made in the name off the church as followeth. We wish for a brotherly peace from the bottom of our hearts praying Master Horn and Master Chambers instantly to bend their minds unto quietness/ and most heartily beseeching these 3 men our brethren/ and banished for the same gospel that we are/ that they will help with their authority to set a quietness among us/ so as the matter should come no more to the Magistrates ear. These 3. answered that they would hear what answer Master Horn and Master Chambers would make/ hereto Master Horn answered/ seeing the matter is already before the M the magistrate shall have the hearing and determining of it. Iff any had aught against him let them put it up in writing before the magistrate/ for he was ready to answer all men and either he would try his innocency or (being found faulty) suffer punishment for the same. Master Chambers made like answer for himself.  
Then/ for as much as there could be no other end the congregation requested those 3. grave and learned preacher●● to make report to the magistrate of their desire And readiness to have agreement. And so they (as soon as these things were put in writing) departed. And the church also made an act off that day subscribing with their hands to the same. The same day at after noon the Magistrates having more plain intelligence of the matter/ commanded by their edict/ subscribed with their hands/ that Master Horn and Master Chambers should meddle no more the one with the pastorshipp and the other with the Seniorshipp till all the controversies were thoroughly hard and decided. And commandment was given/ that the eight day after (which was the 3. off march/ such as had to say off any part should be present This matter was grievous to the church (as ma●e be thought) that things should grow to such extremity.  
When they had gathered certain matter/ they exhibited it to the Magistrates when as they came to the English church where all the company were assembled before them which was the last of February. Where the Magistrates made an end (by their own authority) of the controversy as shall be said here after.  
The last of Feb. the Magistrate came to our Temple a little before ten of the clock and there off his authority reconcilied certain of the congregation that were at variance among themselves/ and took order that all former offences should be utterly extinct and buried in the grave of forgetfulness. whereupon at the commandment/ and in the presence of this Magistrate/ the parties joined hands together in token that they were reconcilied and were Good friends and lovers. afterward/ the pastor/ Elders and Deacons/ were put from their Ecclesiastical functions by an Edict signed and subscribed with three of the Magistrates hands and were all made private men/ as the rest off the congregation: And by the same edict of the Magistrates it was decreed that that congregation might freely/ when they would choose either them or other ministers. likewise/ it was permitted and granted/ that according to the ability of the congregation they might choose one/ or many ministers off the word or doctors. Moreover/ order was taken by the same edict/ that the treasure or common money of the congregation should be kept and distributed by the Deacons. And that the Deacons should at certain appointed times give up an account of it before the Ministers of the word and Seniors.  
We were licensed by the same edict of the magistrates. to draw out an Ecclesiastical Discipline whereby the congregation should be governed. Afterwards/ there was thanks given to the magistrate in the name off the whole congregation for his singular good will and affection to the congregation. And the magistrate depar●●●/ wishing well in like sort to the company. But by wh●●e means the magistrate came thus unto us and took such order/ or whither the Magistrate of himself wrought this devise we cannot certainly say. But that we off the church were not the cause/ that any such thing was done/ we take God and our consciences/ and the magistrate to witness/ who knoweth the whole matter.  
The morrow after/ which was the first of march the Magistrate gave us Counsel by a few lines that he wrote unto us to draw forth the Ecclesiastical Discipline out of hand/ whiles we were as yet all private men and therefore might best take counsel/ for that that should be most behovable for the whole company: lest/ that if we differred the doing of it until the Ministers were chosen and appointed/ our consultation should be more troublesome/ whiles the ministers on the one side and the congregation on the other/ might pluck and force more unto themselves then off right they aught. This most wholesome and profitable counsel off the Magistrate was the next day after/ which was the 2. of march proposed in the congregation/ and it liked and pleased the whole company, notwithstanding because Master Horn made some matter/ for that some were absent the matter was differred unto the next day.  
The third of march/ by the advise off that Good and godly magistrate/ eight and thirty of the congregation chose by voices 15. men to writ Ecclesiastical laws. Master Horn and Master Chambers and almost to the number off 14 more sa● by and would give no voices/ notwithstanstandinge that we requested and entreated them: But they required they might have leave to put down there minds in writing. So then being requested to writ down their minds Master Horn rose up and wrote in the paper in these words following. My mind is that the old discipline be kep●e still and not mended. Master Chambers and Master Isaac and other to the number off 14. wrote down their minds to the self same purpose. Now when we saw far● beyounde our expectation and otherwise then we looked for that there was a new dissension arising between us/ being set at one and reconciled one to the o●her/ not scarce 3. days before and in witness thereof had given hands each to other (we could not otherwise do but be grieved and sorrow greatly/ to see the growndworke of more troubles and dissensions laid.  
And because those. 14. gave to understand by their hands put down unto it in writing that they thought it no● Good to altar their old discipline/ to the end that it might evidently appear/ how many we were that had consented upon the choice of 1●. men which should set down in writing a form of discipline according as the magistrate had commanded/ we on the otherside trusted/ that we thought it for the behouff and profit off the congregation that a form of discipline should be made and put down as the magistrate had commanded. And to this determination and sentence being put in writing/ we in number eight and thirty subscribe dour names/ with protestation that we did nothing but that was Good and lawful and according to the magistrates will and mind requesting them to give their consent and to agreed with us.  
But they/ after much debating and many words to and fro for their old discipline/ that it needed not to be displaced or altered/ 
The simple subtlety off ●. factious head.  came to this pass at the length/ that they said (we had to consult off correcting but not off making a discipline and very instantly vnd earnestly urged the same upon the words of that advice and council which the magistrate had given touching the speedy dispatch off the discipline of the church before the election of the ministers. we therefore which thought it not much material whither it were termed a new made/ or a corrected discipline to have no occasion of dissension/ changed/ our copy and put in in stead of the is words/ discipline should be made/ should be corrected. And so those 14. which made ashewe before as though they would not suffer any one jot of the old discipline to be altered/ and changed/ calling to mind (I suppose/ either their fewness of their number or the odds of the matter because ●hat old discipline was utterly taken away by the Magistrate's edict/ the last of Februa. as the chiefest cause of our controversies: or else foreseeing/ that the magistrate would be offended with that their dissension: they all jointly together Master Horn and Master Chambers beginning the dance put their hands to ours/ for the correction of the discipline.  

Horn and his company subscribs to the other part.  Then did Master Horn request that seeing now they had consented unto us/ for the writing down off the discipline/ he and the residue for that fourteen might freely give their voices for the choosing of those fourteen which they had already appointed or some such other as they would. But we because we had before requested them to give their voices and three refused/ considering that those fourteen drew all one line and were fully bend in all points to do one as the other/ being all like affected and by that means/ might off purpose wholly bestow their voices upon some certain/ and so overthrow our election which they knew already/ denied to grant and suffer them and yet we said/ that if they would we would not refuse to appoint an o●her day/ to choose the said 14. men or other. yet giving Master Horn in the mean while to wit/ that that matter which might have been quietly dispatched in three hours/ would scarcely by his means be finished in three days.  
At the length Master Horn/ after consultation had with certain/ spoke aloud in the name off the fourteen in this wise.  
Although (said he) it were meet that we all severally give our voices/ yet that we may be no longer an hindrance/ I pronounce in all their names/ that we all do by our voices choose those 14. men Whom you have already appointed. When the residue were asked whither they consented to this or no▪ Master Isaac/ answered that all agreed: otherwise/ if any were contrary minded he would speak. And thus by a general consent off all not one man except fifteen men were chosen to writ Ecclesiastical laws the third of march.  
The 15. 
M. Horn came not till two.  Elected agreed between themselves to assemble and come together the fourth of march at one of the cloak at afternoon. When they came together there was much a do a great while whither the old discipline should be corrected or a new made. We (of the church) alleged that all occasions off old controversies (whereof the old disciple but unperfect and nought was one) were utterly taken away by the magistrates edict. some urged this word corrected/ or amended which was in the advise and counsel that the Magistrate gave us for the speedy dispatch off discipline. For/ said they/ that is not corrected which is clean taken way. 
The book of discipline brought forth and read.  At length/ the book of the old discipline and an other of the new discipline/ which was corrected in the absence of master Horn and others were read/ and so they departed for that day appointing to meet again the 8. of march the same hour.  
The 8. of march the 15. men assembled again and there agreed upon articles for making off discipline/ 
M. Horn came at 3.  which were set down in a paper and subscribed all unto them/ saving that master Horn/ Master Chambers and Master Isaac and Master Bentham would not subscribe to that Article concerning the having off two ministers off the word/ and yet notwithstanding they all agreed upon this that is was a matter indifferent whither there should be one or many ministers off the word. for it is not defined in the scriptures but left free. Afterwards Master Hales gave to Master Chambers a book of discipline (which was written in the absence of master Horn and others/ and was off the same Articles as the congregation had made and agreed upon) that master Horn/ and he/ and master Isaac might read it over/ and if they allowed aught therein that it might be annexed to the discipline that was in hand. But afterward/ when master Horn through occasion off talk about the correcting off the discipline/ said that there had been no other discipline in the church/ but that old discipline/ and that therefore the magistrate/ spoke off correcting off that no● of the v●ter abolishing thereof and that it was answered/ that that same other book of discipline being written when he was absent might as well be understood to be meant/ as that same old discipline▪ both for that there was more equity in it and also was suscribed unto off so many as well as that old discipline which he so extolled: Then master Horn broke out in to most spiteful words against all his country men that had agreed to that discipline which were at the least 36. persons/ affirming that all they that had thus conspired together for the establishing off those articles (according to the shortness of the time wherein they met) that they were in a certain degree/ guilty off treason against the magistrate/ against the Senate/ and (to be short) against the whole city.  
Then master Hales understanding by master Horns words that nothing was sought but new trouble/ and being put in mind also off master Bentham) rehearseth again that book of discipline which a little before was offered to master Chambers affirming that he understood/ they went about to seek rather an occasion off chalinginge at the book by reading of it/ then a way of making a new discipline.  
The eleventh of march the fifteen men meet again upon certain Articles to which (except one which master Horn and M. Chambers would not subscribe) they all subscribed.  
A little before our departure it was thought profitable that those things which we had collected and agreed upon should be brought in to a certain form of a book/ adding either out of the old discipline/ or by occasion/ as we were gathering these things together such things as might seem profitable. Master horn/ and master Chambers being entreated/ that they would gather those things in such sort/ or else be present to confer with other that read: Master Horn answereth that he would not/ neither that there was any such need. The 16. day of march they met again in the church and there a certain bill (in which were written certain articles tending to discipline) is exhibited unto them that among the fourteen it might be deliberated upon and debated. master Isaac spoke many things very sharply against one Article as very dangerous and perilous against those good men through whose liberality the poor of the church were sustained/ and making wise as though he would know the matter better/ he requested the bill/ which/ being reached unto him/ he putteth it up in his bosom/ neither would he give it again. And so by this means/ he took away the matter for us to work upon sith that we had no other copy.  
afterward/ the book in which those things were written that were agreed upon among the 15. and certain things out of the old discipline/ and other also were gathered in to some order was brought out among them to be consulted upon/ and being red/ master Horn and Master Chambers first of all complained/ that book was gathered they not witting thereof/ and had been long beaten upon among certain of them/ and therefore that it was reason that a copy should be given to them/ and to master Isaac and a farther time also to delyberate/ master Isaac affirmed that he needed 2. months/ or one at the least to consider off that book. It was answered that although Master Horn and Chambers complained that they were not admitted to the collecting off the book) in that they did us wrong/ for being of us thereunto required they refused it and left it to others. In that they required a copy/ it seemed unjust/ (seeing that the church had decreed/ that we the 15. should debate together as concerning the writing of the discipline) for that thing tended again to a new dissension. Again/ that they required so long a time to deliberate/ and especially Master Isaac/ it was most unjust. For seeing the mart was now at hand/ it was profitable or rather necessary that our church should with speed be established and our ministers elected least/ to our great infamy/ men coming h●ther out of all Europe/ they might also see the broils off our church and so spread them far abroad amoge all nations: more over: that it would fall out to the great hurt off the poor/ if godly men being offended/ with our dissensions/ (being before beneficial to the poor) withdraw now their liberality/ and that ●herforee there was need off speedy help in pacifiing and quieting the church before the mar●e being now at hand. Master Horn answereth/ that he requireth not to much time 2. or 3. days should be enough for him to deliberate/ notwithstanding that the copy aught to be granted for no less time/ seeing many things were contained in that book/ and some also dark and doubtful things and to him before that time unheard off/ or/ at the lest/ unknown: and that therefore he requested that all should be asked man by man whither they thought not this reasonable and just that he required. For if to the most it should seem reasonable he would at any hand havie a copy of that book Every man therefore was asked/ beginning at Master Bentham: he/ aswell forth causes before alleged as also that no occasion of wrangling might arise off the book/ and least the book should come to the hands of any other before it were brought to the congregation/ and for certain other causes/ thought it not meet that any copy should be given to any/ but that the book should be brought forth among them/ and all they hearing it that were appointed off the congregation/ it should be after read and that time enough should be given to stand upon every decree and sentence and more exactly to examine them: and that this seemed to him very just and reasonable. And this judgement is condescended to off all the rest/ and so Master Horn leaveth off from requesting the copy. Afterwards/ the book is begun to be red/ from the beginnige/ and in examining off every off the decrees long time is spent/ and off some articles in the beginning much disputation and debating is had. But Master Horn/ Master Chambers and Isaac being asked their judgements would not answer/ no/ not in the most plainness matters/ and known of all men/ either to allow or disallow/ as for example: There was one article: we profess the self-same doctrine which is contained in the Canonical books of all the holy scripture/ to wit/ 
if master Horn took such deliberatton before he would subscribe to that article: what meaneth this that poor ignorant men and women must thus subscribe upon the sudden or else to newgate.  in the books of the old and new Testament/ in which is contained fully all doctrine necessary for our salvation. To this and such other being most plain and manifest master Horn answered as to all tother that he would answer nothing with out great deliberation. By which his doings/ he gave occasion to all men to wonder. And so/ some other decrees off that book being examined a meeting off the 15. was appointed against the next day/ and so they departed. The next day being the 17. of march and again the day following being 18. twelve of the 15. met. For Master Isaac/ Master Horn and Chambers came not. Upon both days the discipline was more diligently read and examined/ and off eleven of them which were appointed/ allowed and subscribed unto. Upon the 20. day off march the discipline was offered to the whole congregation/ that it might of them either in the whole or in part be allowed or disallowed/ and the same day was it twice read over.  
After the reading Master Horn and Master Chambers require a copy of the discipline/ that at their leisure they might farther deliberate upon it. It was answered that it was to be openly read and read again/ both to them and others / as often as they would/ with time enough given to every man more diligently to examine every Artikle/ but seeing the Magistrate had commanded that we should exhibit to them a copy of the discipline turned in to latin/ so soon as possible might be/ Therefore we durst not scatter any copice before the Magistrate had seen it. Besides that we feared least Master Horn and Master Chambers (Who were among the 15. (appointed) of the church for the writing of the discipline who might also when they would not only he are the discipline but also examine the same diligently/ and yet would not meet with the others at the appointed time) would request a copy not so much to know the discipline as to stir up new broils. Nevertheless when the Magistrate had once seen it/ leave to be given to any man that would to see it. With this answer they and some others being offended/ at the second reading of the discipline they departed a way and abstained again with their whole howsoldes from the church/ from public prayers and sermons which thing blue up and increased the report off our disagrements and striffes'. Neither would they from that time forward unless they were commanded by the magistrate come to the church when as notwithstanding they could not show us any just cause to be given them why they should so depart from the church and refrain the public prayers and godly sermons/ as if we had been Ethnics or publicannes.  
The 25. day our discipline was read the 3. time/ and the 26. day it was read the forth time by the commandment of the Magistrate at the reading whereof all English men that were off the church were commanded to be present. The 30. of march it was read the fift time and so at divers times there subscribed 42. in the good allowance thereof which was the greater part by a great deal off the church. For the whole church at that present had not above: 62. And because now the mart was at hand/ that there might be some better form off a well ordered church: five were appointed off the church the 20. of march to nominate certain from among whom/ according to the Magistrates decree should be chosen/ the Ministers of the word/ Seniors and Deacons. The 21. of march the names off twenty men or there about were proponed to those five appointed off the church and therewithal declared that if any would or could reprove any of them that were named/ either in doctrine or manners/ they should show it the 23. day after. Upon the 2●. day/ none finding any fault in any of those whose names were propounded/ it was again decreed that yet/ if they had any thing to say against any man they should declare that the 21. day following.  
The 25 of march Master Chambers/ master Binkes Master Ade/ Master Brikbek master Ben●ham/ who were among them that were named/ told the church/ that if peradventure they should be chosen/ for certain causes they could not serve the church/ and that they signified this to the church in time least the election were frustrate. But when no man could object any fault in these or other that were named: the election of the Ministers was made the 29. of march/ and the ordeininge of them that were chosen was appointed of the church the day following. In the mean season Master Horn and Master Chambers and certain other left not off to sue to the Magistrates that both our election might be hindered/ and also that it might be lawful for them to be off our church/ and yet not to subscribe to our Dysciplyne/ the thing that they them selves notwithstanding would never grant to any others.  
The 2●. off March after dmner it began to be muttered off certain that the Magistrate had forbidden that we should go forward in the election/ the which thing surely grieved us: for by that means we saw that we should have no form of a Church before the mart and that therefore we should become a reproach to all men/ which seemed should be spread among all nations. But this rumour was altogether vain/ for the 29. of march which was the day before the election should be/ after the sermon/ the decree of the Magistrate was openly read in the church/ wherein it was commanded that we should take in hand and perform the election of the Ministers in the same order and upon the same day that we had appointed/ and that all English men that were off our church should be present the same day/ at the election/ and give their voices.  
The 29. day of March after prayers/ the sermon and public fast/ a little before twelve/ the election of the Ministers began to be made and when we were in the midst off the election▪ Master Horn Master Chambers/ and others to the number off 18. men/ (who before were neither with us at the sermon/ nor at prayers/ but had kept themselves in some houses not far from the church/ being warned of their side that had watched us in the church) came in suddanlie on a troop together in to the church and there each one strivethe who shall cast in his bill first/ upon the table standing in the midst off the church/ all which bills contained one matter and written almost with like words/ to wit/ that they could not give their voices in the same election/ because they could not off their consciences allow that discipline by which the election was made. And that they might enlarge their number/ they brought with them 2. bills of those that were absent and off some others which never were accounted off the church. And so after they had troubled our election/ and after Master Horn also/ walking with an other a little while overthwart in the midst of the church/ all in a manner departed again.  
Afterwards the election was fully ended/ at one of the clock at afternoon/ there were chosen 2. Ministers of the word .6. Seniors and 4. Deacons. Now the Deacons were (besides the wonted custom of our church) of the number of those that could live of their own/ for that the common treasure might seem without all suspicion to be committed to such rather then to the poorer sort▪ Now/ in that master Horn neither any of the other that were before in the ministery (except only master Willforde) were chosen again to the ministery/ was specially through their own fault. For Master Horn never almost ceased for certain days to profess openly that he would never exercise again any Ecclesiastical ministery in that church/ and being before appointed by the magistrate to preach in our church he would never so much as once preach. And master Chambers/ when his name among the rest to be chosen/ was propounded/ the 25. of march he professed openly in the church/ (all men hearing it) before the election/ that though he were chosen of us to some ministery/ yet that he would never use it: And therefore that we should not in any case choose him unless we would have our election to be frustrate.  
Wherefore/ it is no marvel/ if they were not chosen/ who/ least they should be chosen did themselves openly denounce it. And therefore/ in this they do us great wrong/ that would seem to bear men in hand/ that they were at the first thrust out of their ministery by us/ or long of us they were not chosen in again.  
Master Isaac in like manner/ Master Binks Master Brickbek and Master Escote openly professed that they would in nowise use any public ministery in our church. And here upon it came specially to pass that only Master willford/ (who had not made any such exception) was from among them/ which were before in the ministry chosen again.  
The third of April the Magistrate/ who desired that these church dissensions of ours might be pacified and quieted/ and he now because of the mart had no leisure to do the same/ writeth his letters to D. Cox/ D: Sands and master Bartue in which he exhorteh them/ that they/ if they could by any convenient means/ as arbiters of some estimation end this strife among us.  
Now when either side was come before them and all we in the name off the church (for all had granted our controversies to be hard and determined with out any exception at all to them and to other arbytres/ what so ever/ whom they should call unto them) and had offered this thing to the arbytres written and all our names subscribed unto it: Master Horn/ Master Chambers and others first requested that master Horn might be restored to his office of pastorshippe/ Master Isaac Master Chambers and others/ into their offices of Seniors and the old discipline into his former place and authority/ so as they were in the beginning off these controversies. For then (said they) will we leave all controversies to the arbiters. When we had refused this as most unjust and unreasonable/ then they requested that seeing we would not restore the old discipline/ and them to their former authority/ that then we would suffer our discipline and ministers to be none otherwise then their old without all authority and no minister at all nor discipline to be in our church but that the matter should remain in that state and condition that it was in the last of February/ when the Magistrate having put all the ministers from their offices departed from us/ and so should the matter be left to arbiters  
When we remembered what and how great traveles that discipline election of Ministers had cost us and saw that by this means our church should be made destitute of Ministers and a large window to be opened for new contentions/ and had also denied that thing/ Master Horn requested that it might be lawful for him to go a little a side and to consult with some of his side about the whole matter. A little after returning again and saying/ that they would leave no way unsought after/ whereby peace might be gotten/ although they yielded much from their right. Then he readeth a certain bill to those 3. (appointed off the magistrate) and to us written in his own name and the names of others which I have added under here written word for word/ lest any man should think that any thing of purpose were altered by us.  
The Bill of master Horn and Others.  
WE offer and permit with most willing minds (having the licence of the magistrate as it may well be for this purpose) that all our controversies and contentions/ what so ever/ which have been sow and brought in among us sithence the beginnige of this breach/ and since the first day we began to strive/ until this present time and hour: to be debated decided and determined by Arbytres/ being none of this our congregation/ and yet from among the brethren/ our country men/ equally and indifferently/ by the parties disagreeing/ to be chosen upon this condition/ that not only the election of ministers and besides all others things done by the order off the said discipline/ stand in suspense/ to be allowed or disallowed by the determination and judgement of the arbytres to be chosen as is aforesaid written the 5. of April. Anno 1557.  
And that the indifferent reader/ may/ by comparing their offer and ours/ se which is most reasonable/ we have added ours also/ written out word for word as we offered it up before the foresaid Master Bartue/ D. Cox and D. Sands and to the dissenting brethren.  
The copy whereof is this.  
WE submit ourselves and are contented to commit all manner of controversies that have here tofore risen amongst us in the church/ to such arbiters as the magistrate hath appointed and to all such as they call unto them to the hearing and determining thereof/ according to god's word and good reason. And thus simply and plainly without any manner of exception or condition.  
In witness whereof we have subscribed our names the 5. of April/ Anno 1557.  
Thou mayst see here/ gentle reader/ that albeit we had our Discipline written and allowed off a 11. of the 15. men whom the congregation by the Magistrate's authority had appointed/ to wit/ the discipline/ and thereupon confirmed with the hands of 42. men which was the greatest part of our church by a great deal: Albeit we had also/ all eccleasticall ministers/ by the magistrates decree/ and the authority of the congregation lawfully elected/ yet for quietness sake/ we put all to the arbiters wholly/ either to be allowed or disallowed with out any manner of exception. But master Horn and master Chambers/ and others/ seeking more their own will then any quiet agreement/ would not at the first admit those three arbiters appointed off the magistrates. For Master Horn made exception against some of them. And afterwards would abide no order or offer/ unless we would with our subscriptions suffer and commit our discipline/ the election of ministers/ and all other matters of our church to stand in suspense (as they call it) so that by their drift we should have had no discipline/ no certain ministry/ no order and so consequently no church They would that these Arbiters should be chosen indifferently from among such as were our country men/ But not of our congregation/ so that it should be lawful for them to choose where they list and whom they list. 
These three arbytres had their being out from the English churches.  Now consider with me/ who so ever thou art (indiffent reader) if we/ first having given and sealed our writing in the name off the whole church had granted our discipline/ ministers/ and all other orders off our church to stand in suspense/ until they should either be allowed or disallowed of the arbiters chosen in such sort/ and till master Horn and Master Chambers according to their canuasinge craftiness/ now enough and more then enough known unto us/ had chosen arbiters for their part out off far places/ who either could not or else would not meet together about this matter/ or (which was most certain to come to pass) if Master Horn/ and Master Chambers wheresoever at length they had chosen arbiters/ had not for all that chosen such for their side/ who unless things were done according to their own mind/ would decree nothing at all. But the arbiters disagreeing on both sides/ the matter should be left undone; what then should have become off our church/ with these their suspensyve ministers/ and witherhe discipline and all other things? For the condition offered up of Master Horn and Master Chambers was declared to be this/ that so long all should remain in suspense till they should be allowed or disallowed by the arbytres: so that if the arbyters should have been divided equally (as many times it cometh to pass) the Ministers of the church might determine nothing/ but the Discipline and all other things must continually hang in suspense. Again/ the church (though it were in great peril and danger/ yet/ lest it should leave any way unproved for the obtaining off peace (because they thought that some of those three were not meet whom the magistrates had appointed for Arbitres/ offered up an other bill containing altogether the self same matter/ and writ with the same words/ that they would stand to the judgement of any other arbiters who so ever being chosen indifferently by the other party from among our country men/ and leave all things to them plainly and simply without any exception or condition to be determined and decided. But they would allow no condition offered of us unless we would first/ by the subscribing off our names allow that most unjust and unreasonable condition of there's/ and by our prejudice condemn our ministers/ our Discipline and all other things that we had done. And so by this means had opened a gap to them to overthrow our church. And when they had thus behaved themselves before Master Bartue D. Cox and D. Sands/ yet certain of them (when now the mart was in the chief flower) reported through out the whole city that we had rejected their most just and paeceable requests and that we were altogether troublesome men/ and plainly bend to suffer no peace nor quietness/ howbeit/ we had rather that they should show these things that are false of us to others/ then that they together with others should openly deride our folly (if we had yielded to such requests) as they that with our great ●oile and travel had (to the quiet of the church) established some church/ and now upon a sudden by the subscribing off one bill through headiness and foolish facility should have overthrown the whole. But they/ when they could not obtain this/ went about this very buselie/ that the whole church might then be dissolved and broken up. For Master Chambers for halff a month space and more would give nothing to any man that remained in the church/ and followed not master Horn and him departing from the church.  
To certain other also he would give nothing at all which were in the public ministery/ to preach the word and read lectures/ and also in the exercise of disputing by his own appointment and the order taken by Master Horn always from the time sithence they came to our church/ when now they were for their board in debt to their hostesses for 4. months/ neither had done any other fault/ unless it were because they remained in their functions of preaching and reading lectures in which they were placed by Master Horn and Master Chambers/ least the church should altogether be destitute both of sermons and lectures: Only because in this dissension they agreed not with them and took their parts/ and had with them withdrawn themselves from the church that it might be utterly scattered/ when as notwithstanding (which is most unhonest) they had promised to give 3. months warning before they would forsake them: which/ notwithstanding Master Chambers affirmed they would never do unless it were that they were constained by extreme necessity. about the midst of the mart or a little after there began a rumour to be spread off the departure of master Horn and master Chambers from this city/ but whither they would go/ or whither they would at all depart/ it was yet uncertain. For neither was it likely that master Chambers having gathered so much common money/ and that by the authority and in the name off the church seeing he had been here so long with out making off any account to the church/ would go away in such sor●e. Neither was it credible that M. Horn/ who had governed in his pastoral office and charge so long (no reconciliation nor pacification being made for so great offences) would so depart/ yea/ not so much as have taken his leave of the church. In the mean time it is incredible to be spoken/ but more shameful to be heard/ what reports certain had spread that mart time secretly and especially among the richer sort that were able to help the poor of our church/ forsooth/ that there were certain traitors among us. That we desired to know the names off those persons that were liberal towards the poor of our church/ to the end to betray them and undo them: That we had cast our Pastor and Ministers out headlong from their ministries and offices. In all which things/ they went about nothing else but to stir up new brawls and contentions. And that they may alienate the hearts of the wealthy sort from us/ and so bring the poor of our church/ first to famine and then us into deadly hatred of them/ as though they were by us thrown in to these miseries/ But foras much as all these things are vain and untrue/ and feigned by the secret sleights of those privy whisperers/ who dare speak nothing openly: we have thought them rather to be contemned than to be answered: hoping that at last when they are weary of lying/ they will be quiet. But if they go forward still to bely us so impudently and outrageously/ surely we will not neglect our fame and honest estimation: but we will diligently wipe away all their slanders with one sponge/ and there with all will open to the world/ their wicked endeavours against our church. In the mean time nothing distrustinge the lords mercy (how soever the deceits of men would let it) hoping/ that neither living nor food shall ever want to our poor congregation/ who also feedeth the ravens/ and that he will always be present by his spirit to us and to our whole church continually which thing that it may please him to bring to pass/ we beseech the good reader (who so ever thou art) pray unto god together with us/ and farewell.   

Here followeth the exhortation of the Magistrate for the amending and establishing off the Discipline.  
The English Thus.  
WE think it Good and profitable for the establishing off peace and tranquillity of your church/ that you altogether consult and determine/ as concerning the amending off discipline/ now/ whiles ye all be yet private men and without any Ecclesiastical ministery. For whiles none of you doth yet know/ whither he shall be a private person or else shall have any authority Ecclesiastical/ every man man will apply his mind/ and study to that which shall seem most reasonable and profitable aswell for the congregation as for the ministers. But after that the ministers be once elected/ it is to be feared least they will draw some what more than reason to themselves/ and in likewise the congregation to itself. And so/ your consolation may chance to be somewhat troublous which we would not should happen. Wherefore that all things may proceed aswell as may be to to the establishing off sure peace we exhort you that with all speed ye take in hand this consultation about the amending off your Discipline w●th minds and means most aplyable to tranquillity/ which almighty God grant/ ye may happily bring to pass.  
The first of march. 1●57. john Glauburg.  

Now/ followeth the discipline both the old/ and that which was by the Magistrates appointment/ corrected.  

The order off the old discipline in the City of Frankford.  
THere be 2. 
The old Discipline▪  parts off the order of Discipline in the church. The one perteininge to the whole church. The other pertaining to the ministers and Elders alone.  

of the first part.  
In the Discipline pertaining to the whole church/ is first to be appointed the order off receiving men in to the congregation which is this.  

The manner of receiving off all sorts of persons into the said congregation.  
first/ every one aswell man as woman which desireth ●o be received shall make a declaration or Confession of their faith/ before the pastor and Seniors shewing himselff fully to consent and agreed with doctrine of the church and submitting themselves to the discipline of the same.  
Iff any person/ so desirous to be received into the congregation/ be notoriously defamed or noted off any corrupt or evil opinion in doctrine or slanderous behaviour in life/ the same may not by the pastor and Elders be admitted till he have either purged himself thereof/ or else have declared himself ●o the pastor and Elders penitent for the same.   

The good behaviour and godly conversation required off such as are received.  
secondarily all the members of the church so admitted and received shall diligently observe and keep all such godly discipline and orders apoointed with in the church which tend to the increase of knowledge and godliness off life/ as the appointed times of prayer/ preaching/ and hearing god's word/ the administration of the Sacraments/ with submission to all godly discipline of the church.  

This article I find razed in the copy, what they meant by it▪ I know not.  Thirdly/ such also as being in England after knowledge received/ have communicated with the popish mass contrary to their consciences by reason of fear/ weakness/ or otherwise/ may not be received till they have confessed their fall before the pastor and seniors/ and have showed themselves penitent for the same.   

How the youth shallbe catechized.  
Also for the increase off godly knowledge and virtue/ all the youth shal● resort to the church every satterdaie at 2. of the clock at afternoon/ and when we have a several church/ at one of the clock on the sunday at afternoon/ there/ to be instructed in the Catechism/ and not to be admitted to the communion till they be able to make profession of their faith before the whole congregation. And also to have an honest testimony of towardness in godly conversation/ and that every member of the church do not refuse to read a declaration of their faith before the pastor and Elders when so ever they shall be thereto required   

th'rder of correction/ for private and privy offences.  
Fourthly/ for as much as no charge is so perfect but offences may arise/ for godly charitable redressinge and reforming off such/ this order is to be observed.  
first/ if any of the congregation be offensive in manners or doctrine to any of the brethren/ so that offence be private and not publicly known/ there can be no better order devised then that which Christ himself hath appointed/ which is/ first brotherly to admonish him alone/ if that do no prevail/ call/ one or 2. Witnesses/ if that also do not profit/ then to declare it to the pastor and elders/ to whom the church hath given authority to take order in such cases according to the quality and grievousness of the offence and crime.   

of the order of correction for public and open crimes.  
But if any person shallbe a notorious known offender so as he is offensive to the whole church/ then shall the pastor and elders immediately call the offender before them and travel with him to reduce him to true repentance and satisfying off the congregation which/ if ●e obstinately refuse to do: then▪ the pastor shall signify his offence and contempt to the whole congregation desiring them to pray for him/ and further to assign him a day to be denownced excommunicate before the church/ except in the mean time the offender submit himself before the pastor and seniors to the order of discipline  
Finally/ in case any person of this congregation be known to be an hinderer or a defacer of any of the godly usages now exercised in the same congregation/ either privily or apertly by word/ letter/ or deed: the same shall acknowledge his offence with satisfaction to the church/ according to the true order of Discipline.    

The 2. part of discipline toncerninge the ministers and elders/ and their elections.  
first for the election of ministers and Elders/ the qualities of the same are to be examined and considered according to the rule off S. Paul 1 Tim. 3. Wheroff this is the sum That no man be elected whose doctrine or life can justly be reproved and condemned. As concerning the order and form of Electing/ the same is to be observed which hath already been practised and is here unto annexed.  

of their offices and functions.  
The pastor/ according to the commandment of the holy ghost in the scriptures/ aught with all pastoral care diligently to attend to his flock/ in preaching gods word/ in ministering the Sacraments/ in example off Good life/ in exhorting/ admonishing/ rebuking/ and as the chief mouth of the church/ to open and declare all orders taken by him and the elders which are to be opened and published: to whom no man may in the face off the congregation reply. But if any think himselff to have cause to speak let him come before the elders in the place appointed for their meeting and thereto open his mind and to be hard with all charity indifferently.   

The office of preachers and such as are learned in the congregation.  
The office of preachers and such as are learned in the church is to assist the pastor in preaching the word/ ministering the Sacraments and in all consultations and meetings of him and the Elders especially in causes off Doctrine/ and also at other times when they shall be required.   

The office of Elders.  
The office of Elders is to be (as it were) censors/ overseers off manners and disorders. And to be with the pastor in all consultations/ for the public order off the church/ and that all corrections and exercises off discipline be done with their common counsel.   

Deacons.  
Considering also the present state of the church/ it is thought requisite that the Deacons besides the special office appointed in the Acts off the apostles in caring and providing for the poor/ do also visit the sick and be assistant in catechizing the youth if they shall be thereunto required.  
The same order and form is to be used for reformation of offences and crimes in ministers and Elders which is described for other offenders/ and to be done towards them rather with more severity.     

Now followeth the Discipline reformed and confirmed by the authority of the church and magistrate.  
IT is most comely and godly/ that Christian people resort together in place and time/ 
The new discipline.  thereunto by common consent appointed (if the persecution of the ungodly will suffer the same and they themselves have no urgent cause to the contrary) there to hear the pure doctrine of God's word taught/ and themselves openly with their presence and voice to declare the consent off their hearts to the same/ and to confess with their mouth agreablely their belieff and faith upon god and his holy word according to the scriptures.  
The congregation thus assembled is a particular visible church such as may be in divers places off the world very many. And all these particular churches joined together not in place (for that is not possible) but by the conjunction off true doctrine and faith in the same/ do make one whole church in this world. And the elect off God that be in this whole church and every part thereof with all the elect that hath been from the beginning off the world and shall be to the end thereof do altogether make that holy catholic and Apostolic church/ the spouse of our saviour christ wchiche he hath purified to himself in his blood wheroff mention is made in the creed. I believe one holy Catholic and Apostolic church. But at this present our consideration must be off the visible and particular church.  
The signs and notes off a visible church are these. first / true and goldly doctrine. Secondly/ the right ministration and use off the Sacraments and common prayer: Thirdly: honest and godly life/ if not in the whole multitude/ yet in many of them: fourthly/ discipline/ that is/ the correction of vices/ but the 2. first notes are such as without the which no form off any godly visible church can possibly be. Wherefore/ they be the principal and chief notes. And therefore we define a particular church visible/ to be the congregation of Christian men whither they be few or many assemblinge together in place and time convenient to hear Christ's true Doctrine taught/ to use his holy Sacraments rightly and to make their common prayer together/ in the which their appeareth a study off honest and godly life/ and which hath in it a godly discipline/ that is to say/ ordinances and decrees Ecclesiastical for the preservation off comely order and for the correction of vices.  

of the doctrine of the church which is the first note.  
The Doctrine which we hold and profess in our church is the same that is taught in the canonical books of the holy bible/ containing the old testament and the new in the which is contained the true and lively word of god and the doctrine of health both as concerning faith and godly life/ at full/ sufficient for the salvation of all the faithful that unfeignedly believe therein The sum of the which as concerning faith is briefly and truly comprehended in the 3. creeds/ the common creed commonly called the creed of the apostles/ the Nicene creed and the creed of Athanasius: And as concerning godly life/ in the ten commandments/ written in the xx chapter of Exodus.   

of the Sacraments/ and common prayer the second note.  
We observe and keep the form and order off the ministraon of the sacraments and common prayer/ as it is set foorh by the authority of the blessed king Edward of famous memory/ in the last book of the English service: Wheroff notwithstanding in the respect of times and places and other circumstances certain rites and ceremonies appointed in the said book/ as things in different/ may be left out// as we at this present do.  
The times and hours for the teaching and hearing off god's word and the ministration of the sacraments/ and and saying and hearing of the common prayer/ such as be now used/ or shall hear after by common consent be thought most meet to be used/ are to be kept and observed off all men not having lawful cause to the contrary.   

of the Ministers of the word/ Sacra/ ments and common prayer.  
It is thought expedient for the church at this present/ to have 2. Ministers or teachers of the word elected/ off dotrine and godly life/ such as the rule off the scripture doth require as much as may be/ And that the said 2. Ministers and teachers of the word shall in all things and points be off like authority and neither of them superior or inferior to other.  
Item that the said/ 2. Ministers shall by themselves/ or fit persons by them and the Seniors in the name off the whole congregation to be appointed/ when necessary cause shall so require/ preach the ordinary Sermons on wensdays/ thursdays and sundays before noon/ and after noon instruct and Hear the examination of the youth in the Catechism/ on sondaye in the after noon at the hour accustomed/ and shall by themselves or other appointed persons as is afore said Minister the Sacraments duly/ say the common prayers distinctly viset and comfort the sick specially at their last time and hour of death/ bury the dead comely/ and observe all other comely rites and uges in the church directing all their behaviour acts and life according to the rule off off their vocation/ set forth in the holy scriptures.  
Item that six/ either fewer or more/ (as the ability of the church wil● bear) such as be godly and have need off the help off the church/ be appointed by the Ministers and Seniors in the name off the whole congregation: Wheroff 4. to be well learned/ who shall read and expound the chapters/ and shall help the two ministers off the word/ when need shall require in the doctrine of the word/ Catechisinge off youth/ ministering off the Sacraments/ sainge off common prayer and the other two or more/ shall aid also the said ministers Seniors and Deacons in visiting off the sick and seeing to strangers and in calling of the congregation when need shall be/ and in all other necessary and comely things and rites to be done in the church. Notwithstanding/ any other godly and learned men which live of them selves/ and be not burthenus to the church may help the Ministers of the word in the above named Ecclesiastical functions/ if they themselves so will/ and be there unto called by the said ministers and Seniors.  
Item/ for the further instruction of youth and servants it is thought good/ that beside the examination of children in the Catechism ordinarily used/ the said children and servants with the whole congregation/ should be all present at our ordinary sermon/ to be made purposely for them on sundays at afternoon/ so learnedly that it be yet for their capacity most plain and with all possible perspecu●tie/ and that one tenor of Christian doctrine from the beginning to the end be observed and kept in the said sermon/ off the which no better form in our judgement can be then calvin's Catechism/ received in so many churches and translated into so many languages▪ it is thought good therefore that the preacher of the said catechizing sermon follow the good order off that Catechism in his sermons and confirm t●e god●y doctrine of the same by the scriptures/ and after the same sermon the common prayer/ and service to be exercised and finished as at other times.  
Item/ that the one preacher being sick the other shall do or see done by other fit persons/ as is before said all the duty and duties to the other so sick belonging.  
Item/ that a lecture of divinity and disputations for the exercise off students/ if it may be/ be maintained/ or else that prophesy be used every fortnight in the English tongue/ for the exercise off the said students and edifinge of the congregation/ or both disputations and Prophesy also/ if it so shall seem good unto the ministers and Seniors.  
Item/ that such as shall thereunto seem most meet off the congregation shall be appointed to translate into English some such books/ as shall be profitable either for the instruction or for the comfort off our country in this our exile and affliction of our country.  
Item that the common books or library of the church / be a● the appointment of the minister and the seniors in such place as all the students may moste conveniently come unto.   

The third note/ that is Christian life/ and Good works the fruits off godly doctrine.  
Item/ we teach that such goods works are to be done as are commanded by God's word in the scriptures/ such evil deeds to be avoided as are forbidden by the same.  
And where as concerning the fruits off godly doctrine none is more commanded in the scriptures than the relieving off the poor which either is done privately by every person or else by the common treasury of the church/ for the good and right use and order off the same: it apearethe aswell by God's word as by the examples of churches rightly reformed/ that both the keeping vnd also the distribution of the treasure of the church appertaineth to the Deacons: who be so necessary Ministers in the church of Christ that without them it cannot well be. For Christ saith you shall have always poor men among you. Wherefore they aught to be honoured of all men/ and they themselves aught to have this opinion/ that they highly please god in that ministry.  
Wherefore we think it expedient for the church that 4. men of special gravity/ authority/ and credit/ in the church/ such as off themselves be able to live and will do this godly office rather for Christ's sake and the love they bear to him and his poor flock/ then for any there own necessity or worldly reward/ be chosen to be Deacons/ which 4. Deacons shall have the custody of the treasure and distribution of the same/ and other alms of the church remaining in their hands and keeping/ in such sort as it shall s●me good to the ministers/ seniors and Deacons for the most safety of the said treasure.  
Item/ that although the Deacons have in their custody the treasure off the church/ yet the ministers and seniors shall have knowledge of the whole sum of the said treasure. Provided always that neither the said 4. Deacons ministers / Seniors/ or any of them shall have any knowledge or make any inquisition of the giver or givers of any Alms to the poor of the said church/ otherwise then the messenger or bringer of the said Alms shall of himself declare/ to whom and as he hath commission from the givers so to do/ but that the gift be received and known and the giver and givers names unknown and kept close with all possible secrecy.  
Item/ that the said Deacons once in a month/ that is the last day of every moaneths shall make there accounts be fore the ministers and seniors/ how the said treasures be bestowed/ and that all the said company/ so appointed to make the account shall note the remains of the said treasure at the day and year in the which every account shall be taken.  
Item/ we think good and do decree/ that there being a school in the said church (seeing the said school is a member of the said church/ as of the whole body) the treasure for the maintenance and for the maintenance of the other poor also be all one and joined together: that neither in the procuring off the said trea/ sure or in the distribution thereof/ any occasion of division/ emulation/ or contention do happen among them/ who aught to live together like brethren/ and members of one body in all concord/ conjunction and unity: otherwise/ the school which is of itself so worthy a member of the body/ may by abuse/ cause/ not only the hindrance/ but also the destruction of the whole body.  
Item/ that in the distribution of the said treasure a special regard be had of the said students that be poor. first/ for that they be poor/ and again/ for that they be destinate to be workmen in the lords vinearde/ and so worthy members in the body. And that as they be studious of the scriptures specially/ and yet with all of other liberal arts also/ as ministers and handemaides to the setting forth of god's word/ so they may be liberally handled and receive god's blessing/ which is the liberality of the godly without the shame and abashment as the gift of god/ who giveth to all men and upraideth no man.  
Item/ it is decreed and also the whole congregation desirethe the Deacons monthly to visit/ and speak privately with the said students/ that be poor/ and other poor also: and to examine their states friendly and charitably and according to every man's necessity/ as the treasure of the church will bear/ to offer to every one of them with obtestation to them/ that if they have no need thereof they receive it not. For that were nothing else but to rob the needy. for so shall both the shamefastness of the honest/ and liberal natures be saved and the treasure of the church willingly spared. For he that upon such obtestation will not refrain to receive that is offered/ when he hath no need: will not be ashamed to beg and crave when he hath no need/ and that not only lying/ but also with perjury if need be.  
Item/ if any by evident profess/ such as cannot be gain said be found to have taken or used the treasure of the church / having no need thereof that then/ not only he be exempted from any more partaking of the said treasure till it appear that he have evident need but also that he do make therefore public satisfaction/ before he be admitted to the communion.  
Item/ that the Seniors and Deacons see that the poor of the congregation be not idle but diligent in well doing.  
Item/ that if there be any of the poor/ sick/ that then forthwith one of the Deacons resort to them and presently succour their necessity/ and the needy strangers of our nation be holpen towards their travail and journey/ if the treasure off the church will bear it.  
Item/ that in case the treasure off the church do fail or wax thin/ that then such as be off the welthey sort of the congregation/ shall quarterly contribute according to their ability and godly devotion for the maintenance of the ministery/ poor/ and students of the congregation. And the same at every quarter day to be delivered into the hands of the Deacons.  
Item/ we think Good that declaration be made by the preachers of God's word divers times as just occasion will serve/ how comely and profitable for Christ's church/ that all men's liberality towards the poor/ do come to the hands of the said 4. Deacons/ by them publicly in the name off the whole church to be ministered to the poor: for by this rule/ let not thy left hand know what they right hand doth/ may best be observed: And the blowing of the trumpet before the alms giver/ and all worldly reward off vain commendation may best be avoided: and so our heavenly father/ who seeth in secret/ will reward every man more abundantly in the day of the revelation of the thoughts off all men.  
Item we think good that certain letters in the same sense be written with an exhortation and hearty prayer to all such as will relieve the poor of our congregation with their godly liberality/ that they will deliver or sand their charitable reliffe to the said 4. Deacons/ commonly to be bestowed of them upon all the poor/ whither they be students or other according to every man's necessity: which the said Deacons and the church here present can best know and judge/ rather than to commit the allmes to any one persons hand/ to any private use/ for the avoiding off sundry suspicions/ and many other inconveniences/ that may both presently and here after arise and ensue off the same: And the said letters subscribed with as many hands of the congregation as shall seem good/ with a general superscription to all such as will charitably relieve the poor of our congregation with out any naming of any persons/ to be sent where the Ministers Seniors and Deacons/ or the more of them shall think good by a most faithful and discreet messenger/ to all places where such good men/ by whose liberality the church is relieved/ do or may resort/ that the said letters may by the said messenger be showed as a testimony of credit to the said godly men in places and at times most convenient.   

This article following 29. I also find in the Copy.  
Item/ as concerning the relief to be had at strangers hands/ who be not off our church: such order is to be taken as shall seem most expedient to the ministers of the word and Sacraments. It seemeth that this article was put in/ in place off the former which they could not agreed upon.  
Item we think it expedient that the said 4. Deacons be charged neither with the helping off the Ministers in the preaching off the word neither in the catechizing off the youth/ neither in ministering of Sacraments/ or saying off common prayer: or specially the visiting off the sick/ other than the poor for the releyving of their necessity/ as with things pertaining to the office of deaconshipp nor with any other offices other than is expressedly declared in god's word appertain to the Deacons: according to the rule off the which/ they shall by all means possible direct their doings: The sum whereof is/ diligently to receive and keep all/ and all manner off public and private alms/ and the same faithfully to bestow upon the poor of Christ's church according as every man's necessity shall require; and by all means possible/ as well by word as by writing/ to procure the maintenance of the said treasure off the church/ so to their credit committed. Notwithstanding/ it is not meant hereby/ but that any of the said Deacons/ being learned/ when good occasion shall thereto serve/ may preach or instruct the youth in the Catechism/ or do any other godly function whereunto they shall be called.  
Item/ that where there is no godlier act then to succour such as be both sick and poor for that their burden is most heavy/ we think good/ if the ability of the church will extend thereunto that there be 4. grave and honest women either widows or wives (such as have need of the help of the church) appointed and chosen with the consent off their husbands/ to keep the poor/ when they be sick/ and to watch with them by course one after an other: and that they have therefore cut off the treasure off the church a certain stipend quarterly paid unto them.   

of the Discipline of the church which is the 4. and last note.  
first/ in all matters touching conscience/ gods word/ is the perfect rule/ as well for those things which Christian men aught to do/ as for such things as they are bound to abstain from.  
Item/ in all controversies civil/ the civil or municipal law of the country or city where the church is/ is a sufficient rule to be obeyed.  
Item/ all matters touching the congregation/ or the members of the same directly appertaining to neither of the two former parts/ Ecclesiastical ordinance and discipline of the said church/ aught by all members of the same to be obeyed.  
Item/ although this word Discipline generally do●● contain all Ecclesiastical orders and ordinances/ yet in this place it is properly taken for the rule off outward honest orders and manners and off the punishiment and correction of vices.  
Item/ for the execution of the which discipline to the maintaining of all comely order and virtue in the church/ and correction of disorder and vice/ it is agreed/ that 6. men off special gravity/ authority/ and wisdom/ such as the rule off the holy scriptures doth set forth as much as may be shall be chosen to be seniors/ which 6. seniors with the two Ministers of the word shall have the execution of the Discipline and government of the church/ and shall be reverenced/ and in all things godly and reasonable obeyed and reverenced of all persons in the congregation under pain of most sharp discipline.  
Provided always that the said Ministers and seniors severally and jointly/ shall have no authority to make any manner of decrees/ or ordinances to bind the congregation or any member thereof: but shall execute such ordinances and decrees as shall be made by the congregation and to them delivered   

of the election of all Ministers.  
Item it is agreed that all seniors/ Deacons and all other ministers (what so ever they be) the 2. teachers and ministers off the word only excepted/ shall ones a year that is the first day off march take an end off their ministery/ what so ever it be: And they from that day/ till a new election be made/ which shallbe within one fortnight after the said first day off march (unless some great causes incident do let the same) shall be all private persons/ as other members of the congregation and so continue still/ till they be new elected/ to the same/ or other ministery or office: every one of them yet notwithstanding in the mean time/ from the said first day off march/ till new ministers be elected/ doing the duty and duties to your office belonging.  
I●em that public prayer and fast be made before/ and at the election of all ministers/ in time and continuance/ as to the congregation shall seem good.  
Item/ that before the election of the ministers/ Seniors and Deacons the places off the scriptures for that purpose most fit be openly red/ and a sermon to be made upon the same/ As for the present purpose shall be most convenient.  
Item/ that election be made by bills/ every man bringing a little bill rolled up/ the names off such persons appointed/ as they shall think most meet for the office whereunto the election is then made.  
Item/ that imposition of hands with prayer be used at the institution of the said ministers/ seniors/ and Deacons/ according to the doctrine and examples of the scriptures.   

of the calling and assembling off the congregation.  
Item that the ministers and seniors thus elect/ have now authority as the principal members of the congregation/ to govern the said congregation according to god's word/ and the discipline of the church as is aforsaied: And also/ to call together and assemble the said congregation for causes and at times/ as shall to them seem expedient.  
Provided always that if any dissension shall happen between the ministers and the seniors/ or the more part of them and the body of the congregation or the more part of it: and that the said ministers and Seniors in such controversy/ being desired thereto/ will not assemble the congregation/ that then the congregation may of itself cum together/ and consult and determine as concerning the said controversy or controversies and the said assembly to be a lawful congregation/ and that which they the more part of them so assembling shall judge or decree/ the same to b● a lawful decre● and ordinance of sufficient force to bind the whole congregation and every member of the same.  
Item/ that no man being summoned or warned either by the ministers and Seniors or in the name off the congregation so as afore is said assembled/ to appear in the congregation shall absent himselff but upon a lawful cause/ under pain of discipline: And that none shall depart out of the said congregation so assembled till it be broken up/ with ow● licence off the whole or the more part remaining/ upon pain of discipline before the whole congregation therefore.  
Item in case some do depart/ that yet notwithstanding those which still remain (if they be the greater part) to be a lawful congregation: and that which they or the more part of them shall decree/ to be a lawful decree/ off force to bind the whole body/ ministers/ seniors/ Deacons and every other member or members thereof without exception.  
Item/ that no checking or taunting be used in the said congregation/ by any persons/ under pain of Discipline/ and that in speaking/ all other shall hold their peace and keep silence: abstaining also from private talk that all things may be done comely and in order.  
Item/ that it shall be lawful that every member of the congregation/ making protestation of licence before/ to the ministers/ seniors/ and the whole congregation/ may speak his mind in the congregation/ so he speak quietly and not against god's truth/ for in case he speak ungodly/ that than it shall be lawful for the ministers/ seniors/ or any of them to command him silence by and by.   

The manner or receiving all sorts of persons into the said congregation.  
first/ for the avoiding off all heresies and sects in our churches every one aswell men as women which desire to be received shall make a declaration/ or confession of their faith before the ministers and elders/ shewing him s●●ff●ully to consent and agreed w●th the doctrine of the church and submi●tinge themselves to the Discipline of the same/ and the same to testify by subscribing thefts if they can write.  
Item if any person so desirous to be received into the congregation be notoriously defamed/ or noted off any corrupt behaviour/ or evil opinion in doctrine/ or slanderous behaviour in life/ the same may not by the Ministers and Elders be admitted ● till he have either purged himselff thereof or else have declared himself to the ministers and elder● penitent for the same.   

of admission to the holy communion.  
Item/ that none of the youth be admitted to the communion till they be able to make profession of their fa●the before the whole congregation/ and also to have an honest testimony of towardness in godly conversation.  
Item/ that none openly noted as an heretic/ sectary Idolater or other notorious offender/ shall be admitted to the communion/ before he either purge or reconcile himself publicly before the whole congregation/ And that every member of the congregation do not refuse to tender a declaration of their faith/ before the Ministers and Elders/ when so ever they shall by them be thereunto required.   

th'rder of proceeding to the execution of the Discipline and correction of offences.  
For as much as no church is so perfect/ but offences may rise/ for godly and charitable redressing and reforming off such/ this order is to be observed: first/ if any of the congregation be offensive in manners or doctrine/ to any of the brethren/ so that the offence be private and not publicly known/ there can be no better order devised then that which Christ himself hath appointed: which is first brotherly to admonish him alone. if that do not prevail/ to call one or two witnesses: if that also do not profit: Then to declare it to the Ministers and Elders: To whom the congregation hath given authority to take order in such cases according to the Discipline of the church.  
Item/ that it may be the better known/ what is meant by this word discipline/ or correction of vice/ we think that there be 3. degrees off Ecclesiastical discipline: The first/ that the offender/ acknowledge his fault/ and show himself penitent before the Ministers and the Seniors: The second/ that if he will not so do/ as well his original crime as also his contempt of the Ministers and Elderss who have the authority of the church/ be openly declared by one of the Ministers/ before the whole congregation/ and that he therefore make satisfaction/ both for his original crime and also for his contempt of the Ministers before the whole congregation and that he be not admitted to the communion before he have satisfied. The third/ that if he remain still obstinate before the whole congregation after a time to him by the whole congregation limited to repent in/ he then shall be openly denounced excommunicate which excommunication/ seeing it is the uttermost penalty off Ecclesiastical power/ shall not therefore be executed/ until the matter be hard by the whole church or such as it shall specially appoint thereunto.  
Item/ if any person shall be a notorious known offender so as he is offensive to the whole congregation/ then shall the Ministers and elders ●mmediatly call the offender before them and travel with him to reduce him to true repentance and satisfying off the congregation. Which/ if he obstinately refuse ●o do then one off the Ministers shall signify his offence and contempt to the whole congregation/ desiring them to pray for him: and further to assign him a day to be denownced excommunicate before the congregation: except in the mean time the offender submit himself before the whole congregation to the order off the discipline.  
Item/ that neither the Seniors and Ministers/ nor the whole congregation shall meddle in any civil matters/ as judges or determiners of the same/ but only as arbiters For peace making/ that the magistrates be troubled as little as may be with our controversies: but in case the Seniors and first/ and afterwards the congregation/ or such as the congregation shall appoint/ can make no peaceable end/ by way of arbitrement/ then the judgement of the said matters to be referred to the Magistrates of the city and there to be ended.  
Item/ we think good for our quietness sake and for the conseruinge off the good report of our nation/ that all matters and controversies among ourselves/ if they cannot privately be pacified (which first aught to be attempted) be brought before the Seniors and Ministers and there to be hard: And in case they cannot end them/ then afterward to be referred to the whole congregation or such as the congregation shall appoint to the hearing and determining thereof if they can: and that no matter be brought unto the magistrate or senate/ to hinder/ derogate/ or let the authority of the church or the discipline thereof/ before these ways be proved under pain of discipline before the congregation/ unless the thing appeteine directly to the state of the city/ or offence against the laws/ Senate/ or magistrate/ off the same. In which cases every man may and aught forthwith to complain to the magistrates.  
Item/ where as the best way of Christian reconciliation is/ that the parties privately between themselves agreed: and the next/ that agreement be made by mediation of some paceable and godly men: We decree that in case 2.4.6. more or less do consult among themselves/ or travel with the parties/ for peace making quietly and charitably/ then the said parties/ in so doing/ do nothing against good order of discipline / but according to the duty and office of Christian and peaceable men.  
Item that the ministers and Seniors shall have authotie t● hear and determine/ on the behalf off the whole church all offences (determinable by the congregation) committed by any person in the congregation: unless the party called before them have just occasion to take exceptions to the said ministers and Seniors: or to appeal from them as not competent judges.  
Item/ if any have just occasion to take exception to some of the Ministers and Seniors/ and not to the more part: that then those of the Ministers and Seniors/ to whom the exception is made/ in this case shall not be judges/ but in this case for the time removed/ from the ministry and that the rest off the Ministers and Seniors to whom no exception shall be made/ with as main of the congregation joined to them/ as they be in number which shall be excepted/ shallbe arbitres and judges in the said causes: and that the said persons so to be joined to the Ministers and Seniors/ shallbe appointed by the congregation/ the Ministers and seniors not excepted/ giving their voices as others of the congregation.  
Item/ if exception be taken/ to the more part of the ministers and Seniors/ that then the church shall appoint 6. more to be judges wirh the rest of the ministers/ against whom exception is not made: the same rest of the ministers having their voices in the election of the 6. as other members of the church.  
Item if all the ministers and Seniors be suspected or sound parties/ or if any appeal be made from them/ that then such appeal be made to the body of the congregation. The ministers/ seniors/ and parties excepted. And that the body of the congregation may appoint so many of the congregation to hear and determine the said matter or matters as it shall seem good to the congregation.  
Item/ if any person do unjustly take exceptions to any of the Ministers or appeal from the whole ministry: that then such persons/ beside the punishment for the principal cause shall also be punished as a contemner of the ministery and a disturber of the church.  
Item/ if all the ministers and seniors from whom it shall be appealed/ as is aforesaid/ shall say and challenge the more part of the congregation as not indifferent judges/ that then they may appeal from the congregation to the magistrate. provided that though any minister or signior aopeale to the Magistrate and be found to have done it with out just cause that then/ by that fact/ he shall be removed from his ministery and shall never after be admitted in the ministry before he hath made public satisfaction for the same.  
Item/ that the Ministers and Seniors and every of them be subject to Ecclesiastical Discipline and correction/ as other private members of the church be. And that in case any person or persons accuse any of the Ministers or elders or the more part of them/ or them all/ of any crime or crimes the same order off proceeding in all points be used as it is heretofore particularly expressed in the making off the exception/ to sum/ or the more part/ or all/ the said Ministers and Seniors/ as parties/ or otherwise incompent arbiters.  
Item/ that no accusation against any of the Ministers and Seniore be admitted under 2. Witnesses at the least. And that if any do unjustly accuse the Ministers and Seniors or any of them/ that he or they shall therefore be most sharply disciplined as a contemner and defacer of the ministery and a disturber of the whole church.  
Item/ if any controversy be upon the doubtful meaning off any word or words in the discipline that first it be referred to the ministers and Seniors. And if they cannot agreed thereupon/ then the thing to be brought and referred to the whole congregation.  
Item/ for the avoiding off occasion of contention hereafter that books of discipline concerning this church heretofore made be of no effect hereafter/ but void and Canceled.  
Item/ that all books and writings of record concerning acts and orders in this church/ be delivered/ and remain in the custody of the ministers and elders for the time being.  
Item/ that a Register book be kept by the ministers and Seniors of all such names as be in the congregation and such as shall be here after admitted to be wri●ten/ in the same.  
Item/ that marriages Christenings and burials with the day and year thereof be registered in the same book.  
Item/ for the avoiding all controversies/ that hereafter may happen/ it is ordained/ that all testaments and wills made/ by any of our nation/ dying in this congregation / shall be brought forth and exhibited to the Seniors of this congregation for the time being/ for a perpetual testimony of the truth in that behalf.  
Item/ that because all men's doings be uncertain and changeable/ the discipline and orders off the church shallbe read openly once every quarter/ and warning thereof before/ shall be given to the whole congregation both/ that every member thereof may know their duty/ and that every man may with librrtie/ quietly speak his mind for the changing and amending of it or any part thereof/ according to god's word/ and the same exhibited in writing with the arguments and reasons off that his request.    

The names off such as subscribed to this discipline/ and were off the church.  

THomas Crawley  
Christopher Hales.  
Thomas Ashley  
Edmond Oldsworth  
Edmonde Sutton  
Thomas Acworth  
Richard Alvaie.  
Walter Frank  
Richard Le●ler.  
Richard Mason  
Richard Be●sley.  
Richard Nago●●  
Robart best.  
Henry Reignoldes  
Percival Harrington.  
Richard Porter.  
Magnus Elyot.  
Henry Perryus  
john Browne  
David Whitthead  
john Mullins.  
john Pedder.  
john Hales  
Gre. Railton  
Alexander nowell  
john Wilford  
john Fauconer  
Thomas Serbis  
Thomas Wilso●  
john Bedell  
john Old  
james Peers  
Thomas Sands  
Edward Parpoint  
Thomas Walker.  
john Kelke  
Thomas Watts.  
Leonarde parry  
Robarte Crowley.  
William Master  
Laurance Kent.  
Thomas Knolle  
Peter fade  
john Vates  
William Raulinges.  
Thomas Water  
Thomas Willobie  
Edmond Tomson  
Richard Luddington.  
Thomas oldsworthe.  
Edmond Harry's.  
Philipp Adishe.  
Gavin dixson.  
john Geoffrie.  
Anthony Donning●  
Edward Colton.  
john Turpin.   

The 21. of December 1557. these were added to the church.  

Sir Frances Knolls  
Edward Boys.  
john Browne.  
Frances Wilforde.  
Thomas Knot.  
Thomas donnel  
Arthure Saul  
Richard Sandell  
Robart joiner  
Henry Wood  
Richard Lynbro●ghe  
Ralph silly.  
Henry Knolls  
Thomas Wilford.  
William Davage  
Reignolde Baker.  
Robarte Hodgston  
john Penteny  
Mighell Coke  
Thomas Tod Chamber  
Alaxender Nowell  
john Ade  
Thomas Bagster.  
Daniel Rogers.   
Now that you have hard both the old discipline/ and that which was by the authority of the magistrate devised order requireth that I place here the reasons which Master Horn and the rest off his side brought against the new discipline established.  
And to the end this volume should not exceed measure in greatness/ I think it expedient to do here/ as I have done already/ and mind to do through out the whole story/ which is/ off a leaf●/ to take/ (as I might say) a ly●e or two/ as one loath too weary you sigh a taste may suffice.     

To the 7. Article off the new. 
VII.  Discipline.  
To the Article off 2. 
13. Sept. Horn. Isaac. Chambers. Wilford. with divers others.  Minister's of like charge and authority we think we have good ●easons to require that there be no more in the special burden and charge pastoral then one/ to whom the others joined with him for preaching off the word and ministering the Sacraments shall not in cure and charge/ government and pre-eminence/ be in all respects coequal.  

The Reasons.  
first/ the scripture speaking or treating of the office of a Bishop or minister/ so speaketh as it were to be presupposed and as an order received/ that one should in cure and charge be burdened above other/ and in government/ for order sake/ in pre-eminence.  
Item the expositions of all ancient Authors and Writers upon the scriptures that toucheth that matter do altogether as they secure/ to gather out of the text/ conclude/ declare/ and teach one Minister or pastor in respects aforesaid preferred and charged above other and thus doth the new also.  
Item this order off one in cure/ charge/ and government preferred/ have all the churches to be read off/ planted by the apostles and all others in the primative church observed/ whose examples of us are not to be neglected.  
Item/ like as good reason of itself forceth and concludeth: so all good authors both new and old do freely teach that for conservation of unity and concord and for avoiding off schisms and discord/ it is requisite and necessary that a prerogative and pre-eminence for cure/ charge/ and government be committed and given to some one/ to be (as it is afore said) charged above others.  
Item/ all the reformed churches of Germany for the most part/ be off that judgement/ and therefore observe that order.  
Item/ if Nicene council decreed and ordered/ for good order sake/ that one Bishop/ and not many should be appointed to every one city/ how more is it off necessity for order sake that one little flock should be content with one.  
Item/ who is ignorant of this/ that for the most part where not one but rather two must have the especial cure and charge) there commonly things be most negligently done and not so much regarded and cared for as otherwise they would be.    

The answer off the church/ touching this 7. Article. to the reasons off the dissenting brethren.  

To ●he 1.  We see not by the scriptures/ that any authority is given to any one above other's/ but rather to the contrary.  
As concerning old writers/ 
To the 2● 3.4. Hales. Whithead Nowell Mullins. Wattes Crowley Boetley Pedder. Parry Wilson▪ Sorby. Bedell. Fauconer. Railton Crawley Ashley Sutton Rauling Best and divers others. To the 5.  we know that Jerome expressly declareth that in the beginning the church was ruled equally by many. But after when schisms began to springe the chief authority was given to one for authorities sake/ and by man's ordinance rather than by divine authority/ wherefore we conclude that as for schisms the first order of many was left and one chief appointed: So now for the avoiding of tyranny a worse evil in the church than schisms/ which/ as appeareth by the Bishop of Rome is ground upon one/ we think it good to return to the first order off two or more equal ministers according to the institution of the apostles as Saint Jerome teacheth. And that those learned men who do most earnestly maintain the government off one/ confess that until the time of Dionysius/ who was after Christ 300. years and more/ the Regiment was equally committed to many. And as for the new/ there be examples of the best church to the contrary. And Master Caluin in the 8. Chap. of his Institutions the 42. and 52. dyvisions declareth expressly that there were From the beginning more Ministers of the word and that it is but of man's ordinance that one was afterward made chief.  
That is alleged off the reformed churches in Germany the multitude aught to serve no more for one/ then the best reformed churches/ for two ministers off the word.  
As concerning Nicene council it is before answered/ 
To the 6.  and in that they decreed there should be but one/ it consequenquently followeth that before the said decree there were many.  
And if those godly fathers were now living and did see how antichrist is established upon one/ they would more gladly return to the first order off many equal for the avoiding off that most horrible mischieff. As they then did for the avoiding off Schisms appoint every city one.  
Negligence is no more in two then one. ability off welldoinge things is more in two then in one. 
To the 7. Yea, but though he did so then he will not do so now I warrant you.  And sickness being so riff in this city/ it is as much as 2. can well do/ and one may be sick. And one may will fully and suddenly leave his flock  
Wherefore/ two be necessary/ else/ in the sudden sickness of one only Minister/ when many other be sick also/ dew visitation of the sick is not well seen to and preaching omitted/ as it hath chanced in our church/ yea/ and although we have many. And therefore reason telleth us that it is expedient to have two rather than one.   

Horn/ etc. Upon the 8. Artic.  
Item/ where it is provided that the Ministers shall by themselves or their deputies disharge the sermons and other their duties when necessary case shall so require: we say it is superfluous. for a necessary cause needeth not to be provided for by law: besides that the alowinge off deputies by law made for that purpose openeth a window of negligence to the ministers in the executing off their office.   

Whitthead/ etc.  
A law doth well provide that such may be in a readiness which shall serve in necessity/ It is provided in many cities/ by a law that in dread of fire every man have a bucket of water at his door/ which is a thing necessary. And universally the multitude off good laws be ground upon causes necessary. Wherefore/ we think that position/ that necessary causes need not to be provided for by a law/ aught to be taken for no law: and where it is alleged that it openeth a window of negligence to the Ministers/ it is not so/ for the appointment of those deputies apperteinethe more to the Seniors them to the Ministers by our discipline.   

Horn etc. Artic. 10.  
Item/ in the Article of Catechism/ we think it is superfluous and tedious to have 2. Catechisms in one after noon And also think that Master Caluins' Catechism aught to be used no otherwise with us than it is in Caluins' church that alloweth and useth the same.   

Whithead etc.  
The first Catechism is only ordered for the children and is but an examination and apposinge of them. The other is not only for children but for all the congregation/ etc.  
Now/ for so much as the reasons and answers are very long and yet some of them repeated/ in Master Horns objections to the discipline which he offered up to the Magistrate/ I will here pass them over and come to the said objections/ and the answers off the church to the same.   

Horn and the rest off his side to the Magistrate.  
WE come to that now (right honourable S.) which we were charged to do by your commandment and appointment: that for as much as for the apeasinge and final putting away of the contention between us and our brethren/ we should show why we dissent from them/ and cannot proceed in the same passage and way that they do: We shall so open unto you our defence and cause even as we desire to be justified both in our consciences and before god. Howbeit/ we are very sorry that your H. Hath limited us so short time/ so as in a cause which (for the weightiness and difficulty of it) aught to be debated upon with more leisure/ and very many things to be weighed to and fro/ we must off force in a manner hold our peace and say nothing.  
But our trust is that your. H. will hereafter/ remedy this displeasure/ in granting us longer time that we may more amply hereafter confirm our cause/ which we are forced to set forth naked and with out any defence at all which we will most gladly do and desire that we may freely be permitted to do. This is the thing that we often sought for when we consulted among our brethren for the correcting and amending off our discipline/ that/ as long as the matter and cause was in consultation/ we might so long polished and finish more at large that was alleged/ to add unto all our sentences/ before the sentences brought in/ and to strike out and take away from them if ought seemed worthy to be taken away/ albeit any thing were put in/ as firm and established by our subscription: Which thing we now eftsonnes' desire most earnestly at your H. Hands. that for as much as nothing is yet concluded and determined by your H. there be no such prejudice objected unto our cause/ but that we may confirm all our allegations with firm and available arguments.  
And in deed/ seeing we must now entreat in order off those things which we reprehend and condemn in our brethren's made Discipline: This we first reprehend universally/ that any other alteration or innovation of things should be in our affairs then such as serve only to the correcting and amending off that Discipline which hath been heretofore received and used in our church. Wherein/ we will seem also somewhat to satisfy our brethren's curious minds. This we say/ because there is almost nothing that we think is to be innovated with such post haste and in deed/ there are many and weighty causes which do altogether pull us back from these innovations/ and bid us stick still to our old discipline/ and not for the pleasure off some men/ and contrary also to your commandment (given for the amending and not for the making off any new Discipline) to contemn and cast away that which so many have allowed.   

Whithead and the rest off that side anwere in this wise.  
We had purposed (right honourable and righteous Magistrates) as we also signified unto your honours) to have made no answer at all unto these unbrotherly reproaches of Master Horn and Master Chambers (for they are the only Authors thereof) in as much as they be unworthy to be answered unto/ seeing they have no sure grounds/ but ba●e assertions only/ which are as easily denied as affirmed. And besides that Master Horn said openly in the hearing off all his complices/ before Master Bartue D. Cox and D. Sands/ arbytres appointed by your authority/ that he was not desirous that we should answer/ wherein indeed/ he was not altogether a fool. For he knew well enough how fond gear he had written/ and would bear away this brag the while/ not as though we would not/ but could not answer so light accusations. Which petit brag (Wherein he so much delighteth) we would have been content to have spared him/ had not your authority (who thought it meet for us in any wise to make answer) come between: And in case Master Horn and Master Chambers shall read some things here in our answer that they would not/ let them remember that they have driven us to it/ in that they have blustered out in writing so unworthy matters (and that so falsely) of such a multitude of their banished country men. for they (forgetting all humanity and Good manner)/ object before the Magistrate (and that often) provertie to a great many of ours now in exile as a most high reproach. What then? Are they banished and poor willingly or parforce? Were they not and might they not (if they set more by goods than godliness/ be richer? And whence have they this poverty which ye Master Horn and master Chambers cast so tauntingly in their teeth? And whence have ye this plenty whereby ye look so high against your brethren? Surely you aught to have advised yourself/ seeing ye carry the common purse/ before ye had so rashly and so undiscreetly published these words unto the right honourable Magistrate/ with the reproach of yourself and off your country men. In deed we would have suffered these (as common reproaches) to be buried in perpetual silence though it seemed not otherwise meet to the right honourable magistrate/ (whose authority we obeying as if becometh us) shall answer particularly unto all the particular chapters of your assertions.  

To the preface.  
WHere Master Horn and Master Chambers desire licence to say and unsay/ to put too and take fro/ to subscribe/ and revoke/ to d●o/ and undo all/ as they think good themselves▪ they seem to require their own right: for they desire no other then that they have been used hitherto to do/ as it is most evidently known almost to all the whole congregation▪ notwithstanding this (albeit) it is against SAINT Paul's rule/ who denieth it to be his property to say yea and nay/ neither have we any more marvel/ that the same Master Horn and Master Chambers think the old Discipline is to be retained still as a thing that both hath permitted them free liberty to do ye● hitherto what they would at their own pleasure/ and showeth no way how to amend those matters that they have done a m●sse a great while. And yet because we have provided by the author●tie both of the magistrate and off the congregation that the like shall not happen hereafter/ they accuse us off innovation forsooth. Where they make cavillation about discipline to be amended and not to be new made/ and accuse us as though we have done against the magistrates commandment: We answer that all occasions of our old controversies were taken away by the magistrates commandment the last of February▪ but the old Discipline/ as a thing not perfect nor indifferent hath been the special cause off our controversies in deed: Therefore we affirm that it was taken away by that commandment/ and power given to the congregation to make an other/ as it is declared in the plain words of the same commandment: Furthermore/ for as much as we have kept still the greatest part of the old discipline which seemed indifferent as it appeareth evidently in the book of our discipline/ let them call it (seeing it so pleaseth them) the amending off the old discipline/ in asmuch as to amend/ is nothing else than to correct that which is amiss/ to put out that is evil and to put in that is wanting.  
Therefore/ whither they call it our new made discipline or the old amended/ we will not strive with them about that matter/ seeing/ we give them leave to speak at their pleasure. Only we declare that we have done nothing against the magistrates commandment in that behalf.    

Objection to the title of the Discipline.  
IN the title and entrance unto their Discipline we reprove this as plain false in tha● they say the book of their discipline was collected by 15. 
Horn.  
Yet old blind father lidford being an alms man, was forced by the B. of L. to subscribe to the book of prayer, among others, more blind than he.  men appointed do do the same by the congregation and the authority of the Magistrate/ and so exhibited afterward unto our congregation by the same ●5. men. For it was both collected before the matter was committed unto them and confirmed before hand by many men's hands subscribed.  
touching the 42. Which approved this discipline and confirmed it by subscribing/ this we may allege there are 24. of them which live off other men's liberality and alms/ so as they may seem rather to follow other men's wills/ and to be inclined to their pleasures: specially/ seeing so large and ample promises aswell to live at liberty as to have their slender living relieved/ have been made to this intent.   

Master Horn and Master Chambers deny the book of discipline to be collected by the 15 men/ because they being 
Whithead.  appointed off the 15. have laboured by all means that nothing should be done for the setting off the congregation at a quiet stay. And when they perceived that they could not hinder it/ they came not with the rest/ the 2. last days according to appointment so as by that means/ some of the just number of 15. men should be wanting. was not the book therefore both Lawfully collected and lawfully exhibited to the congregation because 2. or 3. of the appointed men withdrew themselves against right and equity? What should be determined in any affairs/ if the matter should tarry/ till altogether (not one except) should agreed thoroughly in all points? Where they say the book was collected before this matter was committed to the 15. men is it a plain slander. Master Horn and Master Chambers might be justly ashamed to cast poverty in our brethren's teeth now in exile (and that before the Magistrate) and to lie so openly/ that 24. of our company that subscribed live off other men's alms. And if so many poor men have forsaken Master purse bearer Chambers is it not a plain matter that they have been evil entreated at Chambers hand before time? But where they gather that the poor men seem to have followed other men's minds in subscribing to the Discipline/ rather than their own: it is fond gathered: in asmuch as on the contrary part it is most true that they which (were they poor men) followed not Chambers when he ran a Way with the bag/ regarded their conscience more than the living forsomuch as both they and all other might be certainly assured that they should most grievously offend not only the purse bearer Chambers but also two or there other off the richer sort of our congregation. But how much more justly might we return this accusation (which they falsely bend against ours) upon M. Horn and M. Chamb. and many other of their number which have followed Chamb. in running away from the congregation/ because he carried and showed them a well stuffed pouch/ as it were a standard to follow▪ for neither Master Chambers nor Master Horn durst ever have departed from the congregation as they have done but upon trust off the pouch/ which the one hath always borne/ and the other hath been ever an unseparable waiter upon/ where so ever it were carried: and and yet in the mean while/ this gay fellow Horn/ from aloft contemneth so great a company off his country men/ as beggars and caitiffs' in comparison of himself.  
But in case there be so many among us that live off other men's alms/ as Master Horn and Master Chambers do reason. And seeing Master Chambers took upon him especially at the entreaty of Master Horn/ the charge off gathering godly men's alms publicly in the name of the church/ for the relieff the off poor of our congregation as it is already known unto many and shall hereafter by the whole matter severally setforth/ be most evidently known to more: what mercy and pity is this of there's towards their brethren to leave so many miserable people behind them/ contrary to their promise made to the congregation/ and to run away not only from the congregation/ but also out of the city snapping away the bag with them (which conteinethe many men's alms gathered for the poor in the name off the congregation/ and to leave them all destitute/ and also to leave certain preachers appointed by them (which have served the church a year and moor/ and to whom they promised that they should lack nothing) in a great deal off de●t to other men for their necessary board▪  
And where they play such pranks/ they cast o●●● brethren in the teeth still with poverty/ by the way of reproach/ before the Magistrate. Let them go too therefore/ seeing their pleasure is such and number their own company and leave out their servants/ their boy's/ and such as depend upon Chambers purse (for he hath made it his own/ and dedicated it to his own property) and let them tell us then/ how many there be left on their part/ if they be not ashamed to tell how many they be: Where we did comfort our poor brethren to our power whom Chambers running away with the bag Had made astonished/ and would have had them utterly discouraged/ they lay it to our charge as evil done: what is there manifest declaration else but that the poor of our congregation should be utterly destitute not only of relieff but also of all hope of relief which hath ever been the uttermost comfort off such as be in misery.   

In the Discipline itself an objection.  

Horn.  The next thing now where in we agreed not/ is/ that which is spoken off the 2. new Ministers. This they treat upon in the 7. Article. Th●s we defend/ that the scripture doth lean and incline rather unto one/ than unto 2. which one/ as he must not be above the rest by lordeshipp/ so yet aught he to be above other in charge and in burden/ in as much as he must needs give a greater account/ then the rest for the flock committed unto him and to his charge. These we are able to prove. first/ by the circumstances of the places of scriptures considered/ secondly/ by the interpretations off ancient father's/ and the best learned men of our time or latter days. Thirdly/ in the examples of the churches instituted by the apostles/ and most holy men after their time/ foorthly/ this new order off 2. Ministers or more/ hath been (as all the wisest men have always reasoned) the seeds and fountains of all dissensions and contentions. And like as for order sake and for conservation of the churches in peace/ our elders thought/ that one should necessarily be above the rest: so also in this our remembrance/ the greatest learned men as Caluin/ Brentius/ and many other do think. of these matters the best instituted and reformed churches in Germany can also be the best witnesses. These/ we profess that we both can and will more largely show as farther occasion shall hereafter serve/ which we cannot do now for that we be limited to so short a time.   

The answer.  

Whithead.  As concerning the two Ministers of the word. We affirm that it is lawful by the word of God to have either 2. or more.  
Where these men say the scriptures do lean rather to one that is to affirm only/ and to prove nothing/ where as Paul almost in all his Epistles writeth always as unto more off equal authority in every church and not as unto one principal. Where they allege the ancient Doctor's/ Jerome which is the most diligent in history matters/ reporteth most plainly that in the beginning there were many/ and afterward for the avoiding of dissensions/ the chief authority was committed unto one as the chief. But yet saith he/ that was done rather by the statute of men then by the authority off God. Where they speak so much of the misch●ffe of contention in the church/ we confess it is a great evil/ But that tyranny ●s a more pestiferous destruction to the church/ and that tyranny crept into the church by one/ the Bishop of Rome/ may teach us at large. Therefore/ for as much as both ways/ either by one or by more/ evils may happen/ we thought good to beware more diligently of the greater evil. Where they bring in Caluin for one/ we marvel with what face they can do that seeing it is out of all doubt/ that he upon one day and in one hour instituted two Ministers off equal authority in all things in the English congregation which is at Geneva. And also seeing that in the 8. chapter and 42. and 52. divisions of his Christian Institution/ he declareth openly that there were from the beginning more ministers off the word off equal authority in the church of Christ. Where they allege the examples of the churches of Germany we also want not examples of the dutch church at Emden wherein their be 3. Ministers of the word off equal authority. And off the french church of this City/ and off the English church of Geneva/ yea and Caluin himself is counted superior to his fellows not by authority of office/ but in respect off his learning and me rites. Therefore in asmuch as it is also permitted unto us by the magistrates app●intement/ to choose one or more: let them leave their wrangling for a thing indifferent/ as though i● it were for life and land. Where they profess that they will make large proof of this matter at leisure/ let them profess these gay glorious promises so long as they will/ so they know the longer they labour in this matter/ so much less shall they both show and bring to pass   

The objection to the 8. Article.  

Horn.  In the 8. Article Ministers commit and assign the burden and cure (wherewith they are charged) unto others with over much facility: We demand also this/ which appeareth not plainly enough in their Discipline/ to whom pertaineth it to allow their allegations and excuses/ when they will leave their charges unto others.   

The answer.  

Whithead.  What inhumanity is it/ not to be content/ that the ministers off the word (upon weighty causes/ as sickness or urgent business of importance) should be eased off their burdens? as though they that find fault at this now/ permitted not the same to themselves before/ rough against other/ and over favourable to themselves.  
And where they demand unto whom it perteinethe to allow their lawful causes/ we wonder/ that they/ nother red jointly in the same place the name off Seniors/ to whom the matter is committed/ nor remember that general point in the 36. article/ that the government of the whole church is committed to the ministers and Seniors.   

The objection to the 13. Article.  

Horn.  We allow the translating off books. But that so open a law should be made for that matter/ that is the thing we find fault with. For it both containeth that which is a pestilent matter to our congregation/ by means off danger of such as are wont to travail as strangers up hither unto us out of England/ as also it may be reprehended in that it seemeth to smell and tend openly to the private commodity of some men.   

The answer.  
Where it is signified that certain books godly and fit either to instruct/ 
Whithead.  or comfort our country men in this calamity of ours and of our country/ should be translated in to our tongue then the which there can be nothing more profitable or necessary/ they say it is a pestilent matter forsooth/ because it is so openly mentioned: as though by speaking nothing/ it might be persuaded that we do nothing here but sleep for where they add touching the private commodity of some in so common a profit/ we cannot guess what that meaneth in as much as all men that have in these miserable days/ yet hitherto caused books to be set forth in our tongue have rather lost then won by them.   

The objection to the 16. Article.  
In the 16. 
Horn.  Article the custody of the treasure off the church pertaineth not necessarily to the Deacons by the word off God. And at this day many reformed churches do not observe it and moreover it seemeth more profitable unto our congregation to have it otherwise. four the most part of the auntientest churches keep a plain other custom.   

The answer.  
if they be able to show so plain a place in all the whole Scripture for any other that aught to have the custody of the treasure off the church as is in the 6. 
Whithead.  of the Acts of the apostles/ for the Deacones/ we yield unto them. Yea/ and Caluin shall yield also (whose name they oftentimes wondrous confidently and falsely allege) who/ in the ●. Chapter off the Institution of a Christian man in the 55. division/ thinketh plainly as we do/ aswell concerning the custody/ as the distribution of all church money and utterethe the same in plain words. In the primative church/ saith he/ the Deacons received (even as it was under the apostles) faithful peoples daily oblations and the yearly revenues of the church/ to th'intent they should bestow them upon true uses. We desire them now to show us more plainly/ unto what other men that charge doth rather belong then to the deacons/ etc. But they say many reformed churches observe not this/ and that it will be more profitable for our congregation to have it otherwise And that the most part of the ancientest churches keep still an other custom This (as we said before) is only to affirm/ and prove nothing. But thus they do almost always. But where they speak off the auntientest churches/ we believe/ they mean the popish churches/ but would not for shame utter it: or else let them show us what ancient churches those be/ yet this we may not overpass how that they affirm that it will be profitable for our church to have it otherwise: that is/ that one/ as it is now/ have the custody alone/ know alone/ and distribute the church money alone and make account alone/ and to himself alone. But we are ready to prove either to the magistrate/ or to the world (in case the Magistrate so permit it) both by testimonies/ reasons/ and matters in deed/ that this is not only not profitable/ but also it hath and is utterly pernicious/ and to the plain undoing of our church.   

The objection to the 17. Article.  

Horn.  We find fault/ that the election of the Deacons is not free enough. For the rich men must be always taken. Also in that they aught to depend upon the will and council of the elders/ where now a great part of the elders both live and depend upon the Deacons purse. There mouth therefore seemeth to be stopped/ so as they dare never reprove and oversore correct the Deacons when they offend.   

The answer.  
There was never man that was in his right wit which denied i● to be most profitable for the church/ 
Whithead  to have such men chosen to be Deacons/ as the lest suspicion can be had in. Where Horn and Chambers affirm that a great part of the Elders live and depend upon the Deacons purse/ it is a plain slanderous report.  
But admit there be one or two among them off the poorer sort that shall perhaps have need now and then off some relieff of the church money. Do not you (Horn and Chambers) know that they have been richer in times passed/ and except they preferred Religion to riches) may be richer when they will? And now as they are become willingly banished men/ so are they willingly poor men for the same Religion's sake that ye will seem to profess? Wherefore then had ye rather enviously to reprehend poverty in such a one then gently to commend so great a virtue/ but that ye are driven hereto by grief of your stomachs through malice. What? Doth Paul require wealth in Elders (as ye do) or virtue? Go too/ and show us out of Paul that this your purse wealth/ is so necessary in an elder: We dare affirm that such a one should have been off more authority with Paul as also with all men that be godly/ and more worthy to be an elder by reason off his poverty/ for the which he is so contemned at your hand. But poor elders dare not (ye must understand) reprove offending Deacons: Do not you Horn and Chambers know that in the primative church/ bishops themselves/ had their appointed living out of the treasure off the church/ which was in the Deacons hands: and yet the Deacons (in case they did amiss) were never the less sharply corrected of them? And yet these men that require such ruffling rich elders/ would have Deacons of the poorer sort. But by what example/ and by what reason? why cannot ye being Christians be content in exile aswell with poor Elders as with poor Deacons? we remember that one of you said openly in our hearing/ and in the hearing of many other that you could not with your conscience be under such ministers and such Seniors as our church hath now chosen. If ye can find no other fault in them then wilful poverty/ the congregation also can not repent them yet of the ministers and Seniors whom they have chosen: and as for this pure conscience of yours we pass not for it. But we think/ if wealth be to respected in any that is in Ecclesiastical Ministry it is to be be respected chiefly in Deacons/ that they meddle with the church money with out sinister suspicion. In deed about 4. months past/ ye had Deacons/ surely honest men we say not nay/ but yet such as for their slender ability ye made such underlings/ that ye brought not only the honest Good men but also the ministery of Deacons (to the great injury of the apostells' ordinance) into very much contempt. And in case we have thought Good to be ware (by all means) of that evil/ ye aught not to have been grieved at it/ but rather to have rejoiced in the church's behalf. But herein there is one great sin/ that this is not done by you/ but rather against your minds seeing ye think nothing to be right/ nor any thing to stand in force unless it proceed off you.   

The Objection against the 18. Article.  

Horn.  The ministers shall be privy how much money there is/ but not how it is bestowed. This is against the custom of the ancientest and best instituted churches/ 
if Caluin be so in your judgement I hope you will allow his 2. letters befor●.  and contrary to the judgement and mind of the greatest learned men that be in these days as Caluin and others/ which as they permit the distribution unto the Deacons/ even so/ will they have it done at the arbitrement and apoointment of the Elders.   

The answer.  

Whithead.  The Ministers (say they) shall be privy how much money there is/ but not how it is bestowed. Where found you in our book these words: (but not how it is bestowed?) And yet when he hath added it/ off his own/ lord/ how he triumpheth here off the custom of the most ancientest churches/ off the minds off the greatest learned men/ namely Master Caluin/ etc. In this matter the man truly seemeth not to have wanted space and time whereof he had to much to writ so fond vanities/ but that he lacked his eye sight and some what else beside.   

The objection against the 19 Article.  
Albeit they would cover the matter/ 
Horn.  yet by making off laws/ they make all openly known: For they disclose thus much/ that we send out our gatherers to bring other men's liberality unto us: which thing shall bring great danger to many in as much as the enemies of our religion will easily conjecture from whom this so great libiralitie cometh.   

The answer.  
There is a great fore sight in these men that they can reprehend that thing in us which they themselves have done now already these 3. 
Whithead.  years but it is well known that they sand out their gatherers/ no more than it is/ that we be at Frankford. And then be addeth that the enemies may easily conjecture from whom this so great liberality cometh. We wonder what he meaneth or how much it is that he calleth so great. Doth Chambers at uwares mean the greatness of his purse? for as for us we have yet hitherto sent out no body to gather/ much less have we received any thing by any gatherer.   

The objection against the 21. Article.  
We w●●e not what they mean by the school. 
Horn.  but how so ever the matter is/ it shall annoy us very much/ if they build up so many things with so solemn a profession/ and shall bring our adversaries into such a suspicion/ that we receive much more of other men than cometh to our hands in deed. And this shall come off it that very many shall for our sakes be most straightly handled and examined.   

The answer.  
What if 〈◊〉 or 3 Papists list to lie/ that we receive many thousands/ 
Whithead  shall this breed great danger to us and others/ and shall many be most straightly handled and examined therefore? They may feign dangers out of every thing though they william. But he thinketh it would not be known that here are students/ lectures/ and Disputations/ if we had spoken nothing of the school in our discipline. For it was not known that there was a college of students at Zurick before. It is a world to see how circumspect these men be in words/ when they are minded to speak any thing against this our foolish simplicity. For what madness is it/ to think that those things which be every day open before men's eyes are the more known/ by one sentence written in a book which very few shall look in.   

The objection to the 22.23. and 24. Article.  

Horn.  The shamefastness of many/ is unshamefast enough/ and to be often diligently examined. And we think it necessary that nothing be done in this behalff without consent off the elders/ who as they best know the state of every man so they can and aught to make an exhortation at the distributing apt and fit for every man's disposition.   

The answer.  

Whithead  The shamefastness of some is almost so far attempted off some shameless men that their heart is clean cast down. For these discreet disposers of other men's alms/ have by passing to much on money utterly cast away men/ yea/ both together the money and men. And yet in the mean while/ these that without all shame/ reason of shamefastness forsooth/ whom rather than those that have any spark off honest shamefastness left/ would go unto/ they had rather almost die/ yea/ these ge●●le and shamfaste disposers have with their odious behaviour d●●●en many men off notable good wits and towardness/ some to the printing house/ some to be serving men/ and to run into England again/ with the peril both of body and soul. But off this case off evil handling/ we shall commence matter against these men (if god will) and the magistrate give us leave/ to th'intent that good men may be the more ware hensfoorthe that they commit not their liberal alms so easily to any one man's fidelity hereafter.   

The objection against the 26. Article.  
The law ordained for those that travel by the way shall call unto us all such as be the most idle persons and the veriest unthrifts/ 
Horn.  and also Papists which will fame themselves to be Religious that they may be holpen as we have learned by experience.   

The answer.  
The travelour of our nation having need by the way to be holpen on his journey (if the treasure off the church will bear it) please not these men. They say/ 
Whithead.  they have learned by experience that idle persons and unthrifts and also papists are called hither by this means. By what experience/ we beseech you? before this law was made or sithence? if they were called hither before this law was made/ they were no● called by occasion off this law. Let them cease therefore to impute unto a law/ that provideth only for those that be godly and needy/ those things that naugtie packs have ever hitherto done and will do still hereafter.   

The objection to the 27. Article.  

Horn.  It is not an alms/ but a compulsion. Besides this/ off these that are found to be the setters forth of these laws their are not passed 17. or 18. Which have competent enough to live upon and to sustain themselves. And of them there would not only five give heretofore/ when collections were made/ and the sum of all their distributions came never to 1●. Dallers'/ they gave so sparingly and so slenderly. And perhaps their is some what herein to keep back and and fray away all such as be off the richer sort from us that they came not hither/ when they shall see so few rich devil among so many poor/ which nevertheless shallbe compelled to sustain and bear very great charges at sundry contributions.   

The answer.  

Whithead.  It is not a compulsion/ but an alms. For no man is constrained otherwise then his own good will and ability is/ and that that is off good will/ is no compulsion. And there shall no man off the richer sort (that is godly) be frayed away from us by this mean/ in as much as such as be godly seek off there own accord/ whom they may do good unto. And where they object unto us again the small number of ours/ which have competent enough to live upon themselves/ these should be some men off mighty ability that would have the magistrate persuaded/ that other are but beggars in comparison of them. peradventure Horn/ which is the deviser here off/ is admitted under hand into the fellowship of the purse with Chambers and thereof it cometh his so great swelling/ such loftiness and contempt of others: And where he addeth that there were but fine that gave at the collections before time/ and the sum off that they gave/ came scarce to 13. Dallers'/ it is a matter worthy to be known For about an halff year paste and more when Horn and Chambers had given warning openly for certain things that they were offended at/ we wot not what/ that they would give over their Ecclesiastical ministries/ which is no novelty for them to do now/ afterward they went about to gather every man's alms to the intent they might seem at their departure from their ministries like good husbands of other men's liberality to have left something unto the church. But seeing they gathered to this end/ and it was perfectly known to all men that their gathering was for this cause/ certainly/ we marvel that there was so much as one that would gave any thing/ or that the sum which they gave/ growed to so much as 13. not Dalers but hallers or phenninges. But Chambers and Horn were not so evil known at that time: now if they list to assay/ they shall proceive/ that there is not one/ that will pu● them in trust with so much as a mite. And yet sins they departed from the congregation/ there hath been more given (by the grace of god) unto the poor/ then Horn and Chambers have given off their own/ all the days of their life.   

The objection against the 29. Article.  
This law hath these discommodities: that first/ 
Horn.  it discloseth the thing overmuch/ that those which were wont to be liberal unto us/ are most desirous to keep close/ secondly/ it is prejudicial to private men which have felt many men's private beneficence. Thirdly it nippeth and thwitethe away a great deal off that liberality/ which might come to us/ in that we so appoint a strange collector/ and unknown to the givers. Fourthelie it doth wondrous suspiciously import the infamy off certain that have used these labours. fiftly/ it shall strike a fear and a terror unto the giver when he must see so many hands subscribed to public letters and by this reason they shall be eloigned from us that would gladly succour the poor.  
Sixthly/ it shallbe exceeding hurtful to other congregations/ and a loss to all other banished men/ wheresoever they are dispersed. Finally/ these so openly ordained laws shall signify unto our Queen that we nourish and sustain our congregation by her subjects. And that shall off necessity cause/ that they which were wont to give us some what shallbe moste diligently sought out to their undoing and our most pestilent plague.   

The answer.  

Whithead  Here is maniefolde finding off fault as in a matter of most weighty importance/ and wherewith Master Horn and Master Chambers are wonderfully rubbed on the gall. But passing over the first member as vain/ and mingled with others/ we will first speak of the second. if this be to the prejudice off private men/ what have you Master Horn and Master Chambers done/ which now a great while have by your messengers and letters stopped all the private almoses off all men/ and drawn them into your own hands? And that you/ Master Horn/ threatened out of the pulpit that you would do/ and that you would make poor miserable men to eat hay. Where they speak off an unknown collector/ we answer/ that the less he shallbe commonly known/ the less danger shall he 'cause to them/ that he shall have to do with all. For those collectors of yours/ are now by this your diligence in gathering (would to god ye were as liberal in distributing) and by these your close and most discreet means/ so known/ that no man dare bid them god speed/ much less talk with them.  
Therefore it is wondrous fine/ that Master Horn hath forged here concerning an unknown colectour▪ where he saith that a fear and a terror shall be stricken into such as shall see many names subscribed/ we understand not how that can be. It seemeth he would say/ that our messengers will show not our names but the messengers names subscribed. Furthermore/ we demanded off Chambers and Horn/ why they have done the same now these 3 years/ and compelled men ●o subscribe against their wills. 
A small fault in these days.  In them this is a godly matter in us an horrible abomination.  
Where he saith/ that this will be exceeding Hurtful to h●r congregations/ certainly/ it hath been a most an undoing both to our congregation and others tha● M Horn and M. Chambers have in this behalf done yet hitherto/ For one while they say/ they have gathered alonely for this congregation: When any body of an other church (ye must understand) crave aught of them An other while they boast that they have a great deal for other congregations/ that is when they be offended with us as they are now most grievously. For now (we believe) they will say plainly they have nothing for our poor/ therefore though they speak it not/ yet/ they show openly by their deeds that they have all to themselves/ and keep all to themselves. Where he saith/ the Queen shall understand by this means that our congregations are nourished by her subjects▪ how so? Do we name English men? or universally all good men by whose liberality the poor of our congregation be nourished? But the Queen will suspect some thing of her subjects. O fine witt●e men: She suspected nothing forsooth before we wrote this discipline. That/ that he hath in the fourth place set as i● were/ in the middle rank in safety/ we saw not▪ therefore/ we will speak off it last But this is the grievous matter off all/ and that which alone tormenteth these men in deed. for other causes are pretended/ but this is the very thing whence (as the man saith) cometh all this anguish and anger too/ forsooth it willbe suspected (saith he) if some other collect in the name off the congregation/ that we like not Chambers collection/ nor Horns and his distribution. Hereoff will all these weighty discommodities grow/ that they two (ye must understand) may not be in so great authority with all men/ nor be such buggarddes to the poor if they may not bear the bag alone. O grievous and intolerable evils that will grow off these suspicions. In deed they make an end off all this place with plain tragical terms: this gear (saith he) shall 'cause undoing and a most pestilent plague unto the congregation.  
We wonder that he cried not out also▪ oh heaven/ oh earth/ oh neptunes seas/ but where they fear themselves so much of suspicions/ we believe/ they may be out off peradventure in a while. For all men will with in a short time (as far as we see) give over to suspect what manner of men Horn and Chambers be. Finally what fault so ever they find with us in all this ado touching the messenger to be sent/ they themselves have utterly forced us by extremity and violence to attempt it. For seeing Chambers wou●d give nothing being present/ but unto certain of his own/ and is now run away with the purse/ we are utterly constrained to take this way/ that our poor perish not for famine.   

The objection against the 30. Article.  

Horn.  This is amiss/ that the Deacons are bounden to visit the poor only/ to know if they need: seeing it is chiefly required that they may exhort/ that they may comfort/ that they may relieve such consciences as be sick and burdened with sins. A man may ask them where it appeareth by plain words of the scriptures/ that it is the Deacons office to receive and keep the treasures of the church/ and that they alone aught to excecute and accomplish this office.   

The Answer.  

Whithead.  Let the Deacons visit all sick folk vn●uersallie if they will and exhort them and comfort them/ we forbidden them not. Only we show that they are bounden by reason off their office peculiary to have charge off the poor. 
Whithead  Where they say it is chief required that deacons should exhort and comfort the sick consciences of them that are diseased: if they say they be bound to do that by reason off their office/ let them prove it/ that they do not only say all things. But if they respect Christian pity towards their brethren/ neither do we exempt from the Deacons/ that which is the common duty of all Christians. But for as much as they have burdened the Deacons before/ with unnecessary charges as concerning the office of Deacons/ by reason whereof they frayed many from that right godly office of Deacons/ we have thought good to declare what things they be which properly appertain to the Deaconshipp/ and what be the common duties of all Christians. And least these men might justly complain as touching the lake off exhorting and comforting the sick/ that matter is sufficiently provided for by the ministers off the word unto whom that charge doth chief appertain and by other learned men also. And to that question that they harp upon again/ it is thoroughly answered in the 4. Article In that they require plain words of scripture of us we cannot marvel enough/ seeing they neither prove or show any thing/ either by plain words or obscure words: but as though we were scollere and they scoolemasters of Pythagoras rule/ they only say and affirm all things and confirm nothing. But they promise they will do it at leisure and god before. And that is enough we trow.   

The objection against the 38. Article.  
The time is ill appointed. 
Horn.  it were a great deal better after the mart/ for the avoiding off rumour and blowing of dissensions which may arise as it is now in example.   

The answer.  
The time is appointed well enough. 
Whithead  For these dissensions are not to be imputed to times/ but to men. And we trust that we shall by the grace of God have hensfoorthe goodmen that shall quietly geverne the church in the tru● fear off god and love to their brethren.   

The objection against the 44. Article.  

Horn.  The 44. Article speaketh manifestly against the edict of the Senate. For there it is specified by these clear and manifest words. Furthermore the Senate of this honourable city hath decreed/ that if their arise any dissension or contentions among the strangers/ concerning Religion or their Discipline/ they be set at one with all diligence by the ministers and Seniors specially for this cause/ least those which profess themselves to be banished men out of their country for true Religion's sake/ utter an evil token what their mind is by reason off such controversies and debates. And in case the matter cannot be appeased before the ministers and elders let them know that the Senate of this city will take order therein/ who as reason is/ will look most sharply upon the Authors of such troubles.   

The answer.  

Whithead.  It is not against the meaning of the edict/ as it was declared by the Magistrates themselves in our church before all the congregation the last of February/ by the mouth of Master Valeran polaine/ and the said Magistrates/ (seeing the sentence pronounced by the said Master Valeran and written out by us/ allowed it/ according whereunto/ this decree is all together set forth.   

The objection against the 46. Article.  
This law doth not sufficiently foresee and provide for the quietness of the congregation/ 
Horn.  vnle● in this greater part/ the pastor and seniors be included/ whose authority men aught not to bring into such contempt that we would so easily reject them. The multitude is off their own disposition/ overmuch licentious and grudging at every superior power and this law is also against the edict of the Senate.   

The answer.  
Iff the ministers and Elders willbe present no man warneth them: if they will not/ 
Whithead.  who will force them against their wills? It is impertinent that he saith/ they be easily reject/ which will not come when they be desired/ or when they be present depart upon their own william. Where he saith/ that this decree is also contrary to the edict of the Senate/ it is not enough/ except he prove it.   

The objection against the 49. Article.  
The subscribing is over hardly and constrainedly done specially in so often alteration and innovation of laws as as they speak off. 
Horn.    

The answere·  
The subscribing is not over hadly nor constrainedly done but so much the less hardly and constainedly/ 
Whithead.  in that there is an easy way showed to redress If any thing be done amiss: Where these men would have their decrees to be reputed for holy sacred camnons which may not be moved. And as for this subscribing/ which they say is so constrained and hard/ beside that it is provided for by the edict of the Senate/ it is required also in their old discipline and institution.   

The objection against the 54. Article.  
The authority of the pastor and Seniors is all wiped away. 
Horn.  For every thing is referred to the confused multitude of the congregation.   

The answer.  

Whithead.  Except the matter be used as we have provided in the Discipline/ both the authority and liberty of the congregation is wiped away/ and a mere tyranny estblished. Where he saith all thing is referred to the confused multitude/ it is manifestly false. For it is always added by such as the congregation shall appoint thereto: as it is also in the 54. article added/ in plain words.   

The objection against the 57 Article.  

Horn.  This Law is also contrary to edict of the Senate.   

The answer.  

Whithead.  This should not be said but showed.   

The objection against the 58. Article.  

Horn.  The assembly of 4. 6. 8. or 10. is troublously done and without order/ and will stir up new tumults daily in the congregation. Such laws as this condemn the authority and counsel off the Elders.   

The answer.  
Horn and Chambers condemn the assembly off 4. 6. 8. 
Whithead.  or ●●. men for peace making: Where they have almost every day these 3. months gathered corner creeping assemblies to disturb the peace of the church.   

The objection against the 59 Article.  

Horn.  The 59 article is manifestly repugnant against the 56. Article.   

The answer.  
The 59 is not repugnant against the 56. article for there is entreated off civil controversies and here off others. 
Whithead    

The objection against the 63. Article.  
This law also is against the edict of the Senate. 
Horn.    

The answer.  
It is not against the meaning of the edict/ 
Whithead.  as it is declared in the answer to the 15. Article. For it was declared by the right honourable and godly Magistrates openly in our church/ that they thought nothing less than to impeach the lawful authority of the congregation. And except the congregation which giveth authority to ministers be superior to the ministers/ they are not now ministers/ but lords of the congregation/ as to add no further.   

The objection to the 68 article.  
In this place we desire that our old discipline may be looked upon/ that we may see whither it be/ 
Horn.  to be so lightly cast away/ seeing it proceeded off so learned men/ and shall with a mean amending be far perfecter than this new Discipline.   

The answer.  
Where they desire that the old Discipline may be looked upon/ we answer/ the more they shall look upon it/ 
Whithead.  the more evidently shall the naughtiness and imperfection of it appear/ And it shall also more plainly appear how much the congregation hath been beholding to them that have retained such an unperfit discipline so long in the church/ only/ by 'cause it permitteth all to the pastor. Where they say that the Discipline proceeded off so learned men/ yet/ the same that wrote it/ (were they never so well learned) confess themselves both that it was gathered in haste/ and given to the congregation as imperfect/ only for a time. Where ●hey speak off the amending off that Discipline/ we marueille that it never came into their mind before.   

The objection against the 72. Article.  

Horn.  That concerning testaments in this dangerous world is a pernicious Law.   

The answer.  

Whithead.  We cannot tell what serpent the law concerning Testaments hath lurking under the herb. They say it is a pernicious law/ and they only say so/ But we say it is very wholesome/ and profitable against the fraud of falsaries and to the succours of the fatherless and widows.   

The objection the 73. Article.  

Horn.  Quietness is not sufficiently provided for by this means/ in asmuch as it is commanded (as it were) that every one should look and study for an innovation.   

The answer.  

Whithead.  Quietness/ is provided for sufficiently/ in as much as the matter must pass quietly and peaceably/ and also by writings men's consciences/ are also necessarily provided for/ that in case any thing be found in the Ecclesiastical ordinances ungodly or disagreeing/ or else unprofitable for the church it may be changed strait ways/ so as men's pleasures be not holden for holy/ sacred/ and unmovable as the papists would.   

The obiectours conclusion.  
In all this a do/ we say this for a conclusion/ 
Horn.  that there be three things/ which they only seek/ the innovation of ministers/ a purse and treasure/ I wot not what/ and the purging off their own offences before committed  
Now have we alleged as much as we handsomely could bring/ considering the time. We would also have alleged very many other things/ so as it should plainly appear/ that our brethren have in ordaining their Discipline respected neither so great weighty reasons/ nor so great commodities of our congregation But have in the mean while given that/ that shall be offensive and slanderous to all good men/ and to our adversaries and gods enemies the papists high rejoicing and pleasure. The book of the olde-discipline with a very little and small correction and amending would 'cause many more plentiful fruits of Christian hearts to be brought forth/ and would settle a great deal more constant and more durable quietness among us.   

The answer to the conclusion.  
In all this ado/ Master Horn and Master Chambers go about nothing else but to disquiet the congregation/ 
Whithead  that Horn might rule the roast over all: Chambers bear the bag alone/ and they 2. together exercise a most unworthy lordship over the poor/ and by them all other/ and that they might have no certain discipline/ but that their pleasures might be holden for laws/ and that nothing should be thought right or stand in force but what they do/ yet hitherto/ and the same they go about now: And it seemeth they have utterly determined either to establish a tyranny/ or to leave no common wealth at all in the congregation. Where Horn and Chambers make rehearsal here off the purging off offences committed by us/ they aught justly to have been ashamed to make mention off offences seeing they have never left for these 3. or 4. Months to lad themselves with wicked doings And as for occasion of offence and slander given to good and godly men and to our adversaries and gods enemies the papists high reioicinge and pleasure/ they accuse us theroff so falsely/ as they themselves have given the occasion in deed.  
For they could never abide to have any thing amended nor themselves to be admonished off any thing/ or to be commoned withal in any wise. But for the most light/ yea/ no causes in deed/ they forsook their ministery strait ways/ the pastor forsook the flock/ the Treasurer the poor and both forsook the church and moved others by their example to do the same.  
Neither was it enough for them to give over their own functions but they must draw other preachers and readers with them also/ to the intent the congregation should by this means be destitute of God's word/ and utterly scattered as though it cold not possibly stand without them. And when they had forsaken their own church/ they haunted/ partly the french church and partly/ the dewtche churches and so raised rumours abroad and spread our dissensions/ first/ though this city and then through other cities of Germany. And last of all/ when they would not come to the church in the mart time/ but by the Magistrate's commandment/ neither could they then be quiet they spreed the like rumours almost throughowt all Europe.  

Then I hope, it may be now spread again without offence, all things well weighed.  And when they have played these pranks themselves/ they charge us with their own faults and go about to lay the infamy upon us which they themselves have stirred up. if you shall cry out that old matters are rehearsed by this means/ you aught to have abstained from provoking us hereunto: neither to have mentioned offences committed/ old subscriptions/ ne yet to have called us us back thus to the old discipline the fountain of all contentions.   

The names subscribed to the objections with a postscript.  

Robart Horn  
Edward Isaac  
Richard Chambers  
Christopher Brickbeck  
Anthony Mahewe  
Richard David's  
Cuthbert warcope  
Robart Harrington  
john Binkes  
john Escot.  
Nicholas caru●●●  
john Machet.   
The rest of our consenting brethren we could not call together unto this subscribing/ 
Horn.  by reason of shortness of time/ whose names shall be put afterward having your H. licences thereto.   

The answer to the postscript.  
Where they complain off shortness of time in the end as they did in the beginning/ 
Whithead  and that they could not by reasen thereof call their consenting brethren together to the subscribing: What meaneth that? For where they have set to the names of them which devil most far asunder and have left out almost none but the names off their own servants whom they have always at a beck/ yet they could not call the rest off their brethren together forsooth/ to the intent they might by this shift make a show to such as know not the matter/ off some multitude of men of some estimation which are lest out. And they desire also as in a matter of weight that they may set too the names off the others afterwards. And as here in the end/ they vaunt a certain show of some great multitude that will subscribe: Even so/ in the beginning and in many other places of their book they make a great brag as though they would exhibit some notable matter to the magistrate/ so they may have time enough given them to bethink themselves. But master Horn and master Chambers shall with these their mighty and great promises both of subscriptions declarations and confirmations brings to pass as good as nothing. But yet this they are desirous to bring to pass in the mean time/ that whiles these gay glorious promises of there's be looked for/ they may a long time hinder the peace and quietness of the church which their only desire is to have disquieted. And if it be possible that they may recover a most intolerable lordeshipp over the congregation or in case they cannot obtain the chief state in the congregation/ that they may leave the church in worst/ or in no state at all/ but that they may renden it and all to scatter it. These be the devices off Horn and Chambers. These be therfetches/ right honourable and most righteous Magistrates. And yet we have no distrust but almighty god for his mercy's sake towards our most afflicted church/ and that your authority for your equity's sake and singular benevolence towards us/ will withstand the same.  
And for as much as we have proved that one of these things which they have reprehended in our discipline/ be other against god's word/ or against good reason: and for as much also as we are ready to prove/ that all things contained in our Discipline/ are taken out either of Goods word or off the edict of the Senate and Magistrate/ either out of their own old discipline which they stick so fast unto/ either else of the judgement off good reason/ we humbly beseech the right honourable and righteous magistrates that they will vouchsafe to confirm it with their authority.  
Where as both parts gave consent that certain others/ very worshippfull/ should also deal in this controversy between them/ to appease (if it might be) the same I have here following placed the order which they took for their quietness.   

To the ministery and body of the congregation of the English Church of Frankford.  
FOr as much as at the request off all our brethren and country men of this church of Frankford/ we have undertaken to endeavour ourselves to make an end of this sorrowful controversy which so grievously/ so long time hath vexed this congregation/ slandered Religion/ and infamed the name off all englishmen we thought we could neither satisfy the duty of Christian charity/ nor the office of loving country men/ if we did omit any thing/ which/ by any probable conjecture might seem to bring to effect our honest enterprise in this behalf. whereupon we have thought good to offer unto you our brethren on both parties such a form of agreement touching certain points off your discipline as had seemed unto us upon conference between certain chosen persons/ on both sides before us most convenient/ so to satisfy all men/ that every man might willingly and cheerfully submit himself unto the the obedience thereof. Desiring you all as ye hope to have favour at god's hands in the blood of jesus christ/ so to apply your favourable minds each to other that all striff and contention se● apart/ you may join together in a blessed Christian and happy society/ peace and concord/ and the thing whereunto we wish both the parties should agreed is as folowithe.  
The form of reconciliation.  
first/ where as in this whole treaty of reconciliation and alteration of discipline/ some things might hap to seem to rend to the condemnation of some party or parson: we do all freely pronounce and testify each part of other/ that neither of us do condemn either party/ or any person as those which have done any thing contrary to god's word/ or probalitie of reason in this matter of discipline/ but friendly and lovingly every man doth embrace all men omitting all rehearsal and disputation of things passed with common and hearty prayer unto god/ that from hens forth we may remain/ and live together in brotherly love to the glory of god and comfort of us all.  
Concerning the article for exercise off learning/ that there be no mention made off the same in the book of discipline but that for so much as learned men remain in the congregation/ that the ministery shall for the furtherance off learning/ labour to put in ure such exercise off learning as the learned can perform and the ability of the church bear.  
Concerning the receiving and distributing off the treasure off the churche· The receiving and distributing thereof doth appertain to the Deacons/ yet not so that they do it without the knowledge and consent off the Ministers and Seniors. concerning the keeping off the said treasure/ it may very well appertain to the Deacons/ yet is it not off such necessity out that the rest of the ministery may otherwise set order for the custody thereof/ as time and occasion shall serve.  
Concerning the Article of contribution/ when the treasure off the church faileth/ it pertaineth to the ministers and Deacons to travel by the way of exhortation with the rich to help in that need without any further compulsion.  
Concerning the Article off sending off common letters for the relieff of the congregation: That there be no mention made off any part thereof in the book of discipline but that the ministery with all possible secrecy use such policies and means as may best serve to the relieff and maintenance of the congregation.  
Concerning the Article off making off laws/ that they be made by the ministery and body of the congregation being called together for that purpose. And if the ministery/ or any of them refuse to be present being by the body of the congregation required thereunto/ whithowte just cause by them or him alleged/ that then/ after a dew time given for the hearing off the cause/ if they bring not in good reason and just cause off such refusal: Then to be deprived by the same from their or his ministery and new to be chosen.  
Concerning the article of the election of Ministers That a scrutiny/ be had every year at the time of election for the examination of the Ministers of the word/ wherein shallbe by the appointment of the congregation six or eight grave and wise men which shall hear what faults be alleged against the same Minister/ And if the faults be weighty and worthy of open correction/ to signify the same to th● congregation that the offenders or offender may be corrected or deprived accordingly. if the offences be lesser than that they aught to be published/ then the said ministers or minister offending/ to be monished off his fault according to the discretion of the Scrutiners.  
Concerning the Article of Testaments. That no man by order in this congregation shall be forced to Register his Testament/ but that their be eight or 10. grave wise/ substantial and honest men chosen by the congregation out of which number the Testator shall have his choice/ or if he omit the thing/ his executors shall have the choice to take 2. of the said 8. or 10. besides such as are made witnesses/ whom the executors within a month after the death of the Testator shall make privy to the Testament/ and that the same two/ being required thereunto/ shall faithfully declare unto every party comprehended in the will/ so much of the will as shall particularly appertain to every of them/ and shall keep secret all the rest of the will or Testament as they shall protest before God and the congregation upon there consciences/ at the time of their election.  
And now in case it shall seem good unto all your wisdoms as well off the ministery and body of the congregation of the one part as off the dissenting brethren of the other part That we shall by our mediation proceed any further according unto this form of reconciliation/ which is here described: We do heartily require you/ that signifinge your minds unto us with as convenient speed as ye may/ ye will also appoint out on either part/ 2. Discreet and sober persons/ lovers off peace and concord/ which by conference with other two of us/ whom we shall appoint/ may draw these Articles afore written into such a form as they may be conveniently annexed to the rest of your Discipline.  
The 29. September 1557. Your loving b●ethern and country. 

Thomas wroth.  
Frances Knollys  
Roger Parker.  
john Abel.  
Henry Knollys.  
john Browne  
Fran. willforde  
john Turner.  
Edwin Sands.  
Thomas Eton.  
Ricard Springham.    
The answer off the church to this offer/ or the effect off the same.  
We cannot allow this way of reconciliation offered to our church by our country men for as much as we should condemn ourselves as evil doers/ and our doings ungodly and unreasonable/ but we are assured we have not done in our discipline any thing contrary to god's word and good reason.  
The last of Septemb. 

David Whithead.  
john Hales.  
Thomas Sorby  
john Pedder  
Vhomas Ashley  
Henry Parry.  
Richard Beesley  
Robart Crowley  
Thomas wattes  
Richard Rogers.  
William Rawlinges  
Robart Beste  
Richart Luddington.  
Edmond Harry's.    
The copy of the letters of request sentfoorth for relieff of the poor by Master Sutton  
25. july 1557. To all them that bear an unfeigned Reverence and zeal unto the eternal Testament of jesus christ/ joined with the charitable and sincere bowels of mercy towards the poor. Grace/ mercy and Peace from God the Father by the same our Lord jesus Christ his son the common and only Saviour of the world.  
IT is not like that the brute of the controversy/ which hath now at the end off six months continued in this Enshe church at Frankford/ is unknown to strangers: it is more like that so many being privy thereto/ it is carried and spread to far abroad: and moste like by the fruits springing thereof/ that it hath been untruly reported by the wilful authors and stubborn maintainers of it/ not only to the infamy/ reproach/ and discredit off the body of this church and to the intent to stop all relieff from the poor members of the same/ but also/ that their uncharitable and lewd behaviours should not come to light. For it is well known that diverse charitable men (albeit their persons and names be neither known nor desired to be known) were/ before the beginning off this controversy very liberal in sending their charity to the use off this whole congregation universally/ and some were beneficial to sundry members of the same particulerlie/ which sith that time to our knowledge they have left undone utterly. We the Ministers of the church/ hoping that these men the authors and mainteners' off this controversy would in time have known their faults and made satisfaction to the church as it becometh christian men to do/ did not only with patience suffer their slanderous talk and unquiet demeanour/ but also bear with their unjust dealing/ and as much as in us say studied to cover their faulty doings. Nevertheless/ seeing no likelihood of their amendment/ but most manifest proofs of their malice/ this poor congregation/ rather daily increasing then in any part abatinge/ and thereby the poverty thereof continually augmenting/ we thought it our bownden duty in conscience/ no longer to hide the matter/ but thus of necessity constrained/ to disclose it/ so as seeing they will not be as they aught to be/ they may at least be known as they be. And thus we do not for any malice that we bear to any man's person (as god the searcher of all hearts knoweth) but that the truth being known/ such good people as through untrue report/ have been persuaded to withdraw their good minds and favour from this poor congregation might understand that without just cause they have so long done it/ and hereafter be the more willing to renew their charity in the relieving off this poor church of Christ. And to come to the matter/ ye shall understand that after master Horn late pastor/ and the Seniors that were joined in the ministery with him had by a writing subscribed with their own hands/ openly before the congregation surrendered and given over their offices/ reteininge nevertheless the writing of their surrender in their own hands/ and yet being desired by the congregation not to leave their ministries/ but still to exercise the same: they in no wise would do it/ whereby the church was divers days destitute of the preaching of god's word. whereupon/ the more part off the congregation/ minding to have the church kept in good order and to redress those things that were a great occasion off the former contention/ so that after there might be a perpetual quietness and concord among us/ went earnestly about the ●ame. But it happened contrary to our expectation/ the former grudges continuing/ and new business daily increasing/ which at length came to the Magistrates eare/ contrary to our minds and determination. For when we thought that it should without any further brute/ amongst ourselves have been pacified and ended as we would to god it had been. whereupon the godly magistrates lamenting much our dissension/ ad desiring our quietness came into our church and there/ first made us to promise one to an other/ that from thence forth no mention should be made off any former grudge or contention between us but that all things paste should be clean forgotten. afterward/ for the better continuance of love among us and good order in the church/ with the consent of Master Horn the pastor and the Seniors discharged him and them off their offices and willed the church to choose new ministers and to make a new discipline (for by reason off the unperfectness of the old Discipline a great part of the former controversy was) as if there had been never any church here before. whereupon the church divers times assemblinge/ at length/ the most part of the church thought most reasonable that among other an order should be in this church like as it was in the primative church and is now in all well reformed churches/ that the treasure should be in the custody of all the Deacons and not of any one man alone. Master Horn with certain of the Seniors and a few others would in no wise agreed unto it/ but to their uttermost resist it/ which gave us occasion off farther just suspicion/ that the treasure off the church in time paste had not been Christianly used.  
And where as also we had devised an other order/ that for so much as the magistrate doth permit us to use the customs and manners off making off wills that be used in England/ that for the more surety of our friends that were here or else where/ if we were disposed by our wills to give unto them any off that little substance that god hath lest us/ (if we should die here) hour wills should be seen and exemplyfied by the Seniors/ and so to be out of all danger of country faitinge at any time: Horn/ and chambers only upon fond will without any just consideration/ or good reason cavilled against the same order/ only affirming it to be pernicious. These things we find manifestly at length/ not to proceed off any good mind or purpose but off contentious frowardness ground upon selff love and gain that under a colour of the church they might gather good men's devotions/ and never distribute any penny thereof or at the least/ to none (had they never so great need) unless they would/ either faun/ and hang on them/ or else sustain uncharitable taunts and reproaches at their hands.  
For where Chambers above 13. months paste had off master Whithead then Pastor and the Seniors than a letter to receive of one special man 20. pounds and besides/ through Horns procurement/ a general proxy to Chambers/ and his deputy/ to gather the devotion off good men for the relieff of this poor congregation/ which by their own proceedings here before the Magistrates (their own hands writing testifinge the same) and otherwise by our knowledge we are certain/ they did put in practice/ and received much thereby/ yet Chambers upon the account here left behind him/ neither confesseth that he received the said 20. pounds nor yet any other sum/ neither hath he distributed (during all the time he was in office yet to this day) in this congregation/ to any one person (saving to 3. scholars that came with him) one penny/ that he did not receive here in this congregation and city.  
And yet/ at his departure hence/ he left 2. of the said scholars (unto whom nevertheless he promised sufficient provision and finding/ and never warned them to the contrary) in debt for their board and for other necessaries almost 20. guilderns which this poor congregation was forced to pay. Finally/ where good Mistress Wilkinson off blessed memory/ put Horn and Chambers in trust with the devising and making of her will/ whereby she gave to this and other poor congregations of the poor banished English men a Christian liberal relief: Albeit they have caused some of the said congregations to be paid of the same bequest/ yet hitherto would they not make this poor congregation privy to the sum bequeathed unto it/ much less pay it/ nor yet (according to the order of our church's discipline aforesaid) let the will be seen/ so as the frindles young gentle woman her daughter should not be defrauded off her right nor her mother's will altered to her loss. Furthermore/ Master Chambers understanding that we were minded (according to our duties) to require an account of him/ for the use off his proxy/ getteth him suddenly hence (accompanied with Master Horn) early in a morning/ without the consent or leave taking off the congregation or the ministery thereof/ and contrary to his one openly made promise/ that he would not depart/ till he had answered all that any man could charge him with.  
And at his going away/ he left behind him an account/ which by cutting out the leaves/ and new written/ se●●ethe not to be now at the last as it was at the first/ albeit it was never so perfect as Christian fidelity would have required it to be. And moreover/ albeit we have twice written unto him charitably exhorting and requiring him to come hither/ and discharge himself of those things that shall be said unto him in the behalf off this congregation/ and to the inthent he should restore unto it the proxy he received/ and no longer by himself or his deputy exercise it in the name off this poor church/ as we are informed he doth: he neither cometh nor yet maketh answer to our letters/ whereby we cannot but think that he meaneth not only craft and subtlety (much unworthy the integrity and fidelity that he pretendeth) but also/ to hinder/ and as much as in him lieth/ to undo this poor congregation/ not only off that he hath already received and carried away/ (as he hath heretofore dealt with the company off poor students at Zurick) but also/ through untrue reports off all good men's devotions and liberality that hereafter would else be bestowed. Their reports (which among many other untruths to hinder this poor congregation they slanderously brute abroad) are chief these: first/ that the poor of this church be so well provided for/ that the worst hath after the rate of 2. shillings by the week. Secondly/ that some of the poor here/ be so stout tha● they disdain t● ask relieff in their need/ so that our poor seem either not to need or not to be worthy of help. And thirdly/ that men here seek to know the names off the givers to this congregation to their great peril and utter undoing/ which reports be all utterly untrue/ but the truth is that for lack/ many poor men have been driven both to departed hence/ to seek their living in other places and some forced to go for relieff into England. These speciallties (besides much more that we have thought good and very necessary/ that good godly men should know/ both that they should not conceive any evil opinion of this congregation by false report/ and also/ that minding to relieff the poor and miserably afflicted members of Christ their brethren in this church/ they should when god shall move them to depart with any thing to that use/ so deliver it/ as it may sauffly come/ and justly be distributed/ where they would have it bestowed. And therefore we/ (considering the state of our fellow exiles living here with us in need and poverty/ and fed by the only good providence of god) desire all Christian men for the love off our saviour jesus Christ to consider/ how pleasant a sacrifice how sweet a savour the relieving off the poor for his sake is before the face off our heavenly father. A good man's life/ is almost nothing else then a continual exercise of mercy. All the day long he hath mercy and pity/ saith the prophet David.  
give alms of thy goods (saith the holy man Tobiah) and turn never thy face from the poor: and so shall it come to pass/ that the face off the lord shall not be turned away from the. Be merciful after they power if thou hast● much/ give plenteously: if thou haste little/ do thy diligence gladly to give of that little/ for so gatherest thou thyself a good reward in the day of necessity. for alms delivereth from death and suffereth not the soul to come in darkness. A great comfort is alms before the high God/ unto all them that do it.  
Blessed is he that consideth the poor (saith the Prophet David (the lord shall deliver him in the time off trouble/ etc. The good man (saith David) hath distributed abroad and given to the poor/ his righteousness remaineth for ever: his horn shallbe exalted with honour/ he that giveth to the poor shall not lack/ saith the wise man in the proverbs. As water/ quencheth burning fire/ so doth mercy reconcile sins: which god shall reward and not forget/ and the doer shall find a stay to keep him up when he falleth/ saith jesus the son of Sirach. Break unto the Hungry thy bread saith the Prophet Esaie and bring the poor fatherless into they house/ when thou seest the naked/ cover him/ and hide not they face from thine own flesh. Then shall thy light break forth/ as the morning/ and thy health flourish right shortly/ thy righteousness shall go before thee/ and the glory of the lord shall embrace thee. Then if thou callest/ the lord shall answer thee: if thou criest/ he shall say/ here I am. Lay ye not up treasures in earth/ where the rust and the moth may destroy it/ and thieves may dig it out and steal it/ saith christ/ but lay up your treasures in heaven.  
give alms off that ye have and behold/ (saith Christ) all is clean unto you. What ye give to one of these little ones (saith he) ye give it unto me. And also he saith: blessed are the merciful for they shall find mercy▪ when the ydolatrus King Nabuca●nezer should be converted unto god what said the Prophet Daniel unto him? redeem they sins with alms/ and thy wickedness with mercy on the poor/ so perhaps god will pardon they sins. Think ye that god forgot abdias that preserved the hundredth Prophets in caves and fed them there? Paul and the other apostles diligently both with words and writing did labour for the relieff of the poor brethren that were at jerusalem and else where/  
And we hope that god will open your hearts and minds to consider our state and by these sayings and examples move you to have pity on your poor brethren/ which if it shall please his mercy to grant you cheerfully to do/ it is not to be doubted/ but albeit he suffer you to slide and fall for a time/ yet will he heave you up (when it shallbe his good pleasure) and preserve you/ so as at the length ye may be partakers of the joyful kingdom of god which our saviour je-christ hath purchased for his elect with the price of hi● blood The holy spirit of god be always with you amen.  
This controversy which you have now hard from the ●3. off january hitherto. I find written by the hands of such as are both learned and off credit/ but yet/ I must needs say/ by those that were parties in this broil. And for so much as Master Chambers in this controversy is very sore charged among the rest: who yet/ was thought off many wise and godlymen/ to be very godly/ upright/ and honest/ and so no doubt he took his leave of this life: I have therefore here thought good to place a letter which is yet of his own hand to be seen/ writing the same in his own defence touching these matters so as the reader weighing both the one and the other/ may use his judgement with discretion▪  
The copy of the letter.  
To the worship. Master john Hales/ M. Thomas Crawley. Master john Willford/ and to Master Whitthead/ Thomas/ Sorsby/ William Master and john old at Frankford.  
Immanuell.  
I wish unto you the peace of god with my commendations. The tenor of your demand hath caused me to differr answering to your letters until this time not of purpose/ to give no answer/ but that I then upon the sudden wanted sure knowledge in that thing whereby you chief charge me. At my coming from Zurick to Frankford I was entreated by certain men to continue my travels/ in gathering the Alms and liberalities off godly men/ to relieve therewith such poor dispersed English brethren/ As I should think most meet to be relieved even as before time I had done. This request put in writing/ subscribed by certain/ was delivered unto me/ not as letters testimonial of authority/ which as I needed not/ or I required them not/ neither yet that I should by force of them gather for the church of Frankford only/ or specially/ which I purposed not/ but that I might be the rather moved to do as before I had done. And they than required (which was after promise made to further my doings with all faithful secrecy/ in such sort as I should from time to time devise an require) to bestow such sums off money as should hereafter come to my hands to such uses and purposes as I thought good. Therefore/ as by force off those letters I gathered not: So the gathering for Frankford church hath not been nor is in my hands/ nor off any other at my appointment as ye do writ.  
Wherefore as I might/ so I did/ and that by the advise off many honest/ grave/ and godly men/ depart from thence without making that account/ to which I am not bound/ nor leaving for the relieff of the poor/ off whom such have had their portion in this blessing for the time as I thought meet to be relieved. Unto the Students whom I never placed there/ I have performed whar so ever I promised. The account of receipts/ payments and remains which ye require/ I intend not to make unto you. But I shall be ready at all times and in all places to make a just account of my whole dealings in this behalf unto them which have authority to demand it off me. In the mean time/ as I shall by gods help truly do my endeavour/ to relieve the poor as I shall have wherwithe and find them meet to receive it: So shall I keep the names and sums secret as I am bound/ till by them which have just authority to loose me I be otherwise appointed.  
Thus I commit you to the grace off almighty god from Strasbrough this 20. of june/ Anno. 1557. Richard Chambers.  
AFter I had written this answer to your first letters retaining them in my hands until I might have a convenient Carior: I received your second letters the principal matters therein are answered before. To the rest that be any thing material/ thus I say. As touching the delay off mine answer you call contempt more uncharitably then truly as unto godly wise men is well known. As my departure was not/ so my return to Franckfurt may not be at your appointment. Your general accusations of misbehaviours and contempts in the which you say I am faulty/ I admit no● though you can justly charge me with particulars/ I shall make answer to the contentation of all godly minds.  
Where the discipline of Christ is used in just causes/ it is to be regarded but your unorderly abusing of it/ and against me that am not off your church/ I esteem not. if you use civil proofs against me/ I sha●be as ready to answer the cause as you to enter the suit. As for your displaying off me to our dispersed brethren to my undeserved dispraise in this matter cannot be such but that I shall easily purge myself. As god knoweth who with his holy spirit mollify your hearts and give you the unfeigned true sight off yourselves amen.  
From Strasbrough the 30. of june 1557. Richard Chambers.  
Delivered the 20. of july to M. john Hales by john Escot.  
Now/ While these sharp and grievous contentions grew more and more at Franckf. (as ye have hard) many things happened in other places which may in this place be shortly touched/ to the glory of god (I hope) and also/ to the great comfort off the godly/ who may by the same/ behold most evidently the marvelous providence of God toward his poor afflicted and dispersed church.  
After that M. Bartue and the duchess of Sulff. were safely arrived at weasel in Westphalia/ the brute thereof was the cause that more English people in short time resorted thither. 
M. coverdale sent by the duke of bipont.  It pleased god also/ that M Coverdale (after that he had been with the king of Denmark) should come to the same Town/ who preached there no long time/ till he was sent for by woulgange duke off bypont/ to take the pastoral charge of Bargzaber/ one off his Towns of Germany at whose coming to the duke/ he made it known/ both to himself and to other noble men about him of M.B. and the duchess being in the low countries. They understanding/ the danger that might come unto them in those parts/ as also calling to remembrance/ what great curteisie strangers had found in England at the duchess hands: made offer that though they were forced to remove or otherwise if it pleased them/ 
The courtesy of the noble men of Germany to M. Bartuc & the D. o● Sulff.  they should have the Castle of Winchaim by Hedleberge within the liberties of Otto Henricus then Palsgrave and a godly Prince/ who most gladly (as well appeared) gave consent to the same. M. Bartuc and the Duchess accepting this offer/ left Wezeli and came up to the said Castle/ and there continued/ till leaving Germany they traveled towards the land off Pole. The congregation that was at weasel wanting among them/ partly the comfort which many of them had/ by M. B. and my L. being there/ and partly also other reasonable considerations moving them they left Wezel and followed after: But passing by Franckf. and perceiving the contention to be among them so boilinge hot/ that it ran over on both sides/ and yet no fire quenched: many had small pleasure to tarry there/ but went to Basil and other places/ whiles M. Leaver made suit to the lords of Berna for a church with in their dominions/ whose letters he obtained with great favour to all their subjects for the friendly entertainment of the English nation. These letters obtained/ M. Leaver/ M. Boyes/ M. Wilforde/ M. Pownall and T. Vpchaier/ came to Geneva to have the advice of that church what was best to be done touching the erection of a new church. They of Geneva/ gave god thanks for that it had pleased him so to incline the hearts of the lords of Berna towards them and gave encouragement that they should not let slip so good an occasion. M. I Bodliegh (who was no small stay as well to that church as to others) and W Ke. he travailed with them. And passing through many parts of the L. of B. dominion in Savoy and Switzerland/ they found such favour in all places where they came/ as verily may be to the great condemnation of all such English men as use the godly stranger (I mean those who come for religion) so uncourteously.  
M. Leaver and the company at length chose Arrow for their resting place/ 
English men placed at Arrow.  where the congregation lived together in godly quietness among themselves with great favour of the people among whom for a time they were planted.  

Horn and Chambers come to geneva.  Not long after this/ Master Horn and master Chambers came by Arrow to Geneva/ seeming at that time to like very well off those congregations/ (as the church of Frank. also then did as apearethe by their letters afore) in so much as the said Master Horn and Chambers/ did distribute largely to the necessity of those churches. So that it appeared that the old grudge which had been between the church off Franck. and Geneva had been clean forgotten.  
It came to pass not many days after/ that the lord began to show mercy unto England in removing Queen Mary be death/ and placing the queen's majesty that now is (whom god long preserve) in the seat/ the news whereof/ as it was joyful to all such as were in exile/ So it appeared that the church of Geneva was not behind the rest/ who/ (after that they had given to god hearty thanks for his great goodness) consulted among themselves and concluded/ that (for so much as there had been jars between them and other churches/ about the Book off common prayer and ceremonies) it was now expedient and necessary not only that unfeigned reconciliation should be between them but also that they might so join together in matters of religion and Ceremonies/ that no Papist or other enemy should take hold or advantage by a farther dissension in their own country/ 
Kethe sent into Germany and Hel●●ia.  which might arise in time to come/ if it were not in time foreseen and prevented. To this end was William kethe/ one off the congregation chosen to do this message/ to them off Arrow/ Basill/ Strasbrough/ worms/ Frankford etc. And to them off Arrow and Francford this letter was written which followeth and subscribed by the ministery in the name off the whole congregation.  
The Copy of the letter written the 15. of December.  
The Father of mercies and god of all consolation confirm and increase you in the love off his son jesus Christ/ that being in the conduit of the lion of the tribe of juda/ ye may be victorious/ against Satan and antichrist to the overthrowing off Papistry and error/ and establishing of Christ's glorious kingdom.  
AFter that we heard (dearly beloved) of the joyful tidings of God's favour and grace restored unto us by the preferment of the most virtuous and gracious Queen elizabeth: We lifted up our hearts and voices to our heavenly father/ who hath not only by his dew providence nourished us in our banishment/ preserved us/ and as it were/ carried us in his wings/ but also hard our prayers granted our requests/ pitied our country and restored his word. So that the greatness of this marvelous benefit overcomethe our judgements and thoughts how to be able worthily to receive it and to give thanks for the same. And when we had with great comfort weighed the matter/ to the intent that we might at the least show ourselves mindful of this most wonderful and undeserved grace/ we thought among other things how we might best serve to gods glory in this work and Vocation off fartheringe the gospel of our saviour jesus Christ. And because/ all impediments and cavillations of adversaries might be removed/ it seemed good to have your godly counsel and brotherly conference herein/ which we desire to learn by this bearer our loving brother kethe/ that we might all join hearts and hands together in this great work/ wherein no doubt we shall find many adversaries and stays. Yet/ if we (whose sufferance and persecutions are certain signs of our sound doctrine) hold fast together it is most certain/ that the enemies shall have less power/ offences shall sooner be taken away/ and religion best proceed and flourish.  
For what can the papist wish more than that we should descent one from an other/ and in steed of preaching jesus Christ and profitable doctrine/ to contend one against an other/ either for superfluous Ceremonies or other like trifles from the which god of his mercy hath delivered us. Therefore / bear brethren/ we beseech you (as we doughty not but your godly judgements will think it so best) that what so ever offence hath been heretofore either taken or given: it may so cease and be forgotten that hereafter god lay it not to our charges if thereby his blessed word should be any thing hindered. And as we for our parts freely remit all offences and most entirely embrace you our dear brethren/ So we beseech you in the lord that unfeignedly you will do the like on your behalff whereof albeit/ we assure ourselves/ as both by▪ good experience we have proved/ and also have received by your letters: yet ● to cut off all occasions from Papists and other cavillors/ we thought it best to renew the same amity/ and to confirm it by these our letters. Most earnestly desiring you that we may altogether teach and practise that true knowledge of God's word/ which we have learned in this our banishment and by gods merciful providence/ seen in the best reformed churches: That considering our negligence in times past and god's punishment for the same/ we may with zeal and diligence endeavour to recompense it/ that god in all our doings may be glorified/ our consciences discharged and the members of jesus Christ relieved and comforted. The which thing the lord god who hath mercifully visited and restored us grant and perform. To whom be all honour/ praise/ and glory for ever and ever.  
Your loving friends, and in the name of whole church. 

Christopher Goodman  
Miles Coverdale  
john Knox  
john Bodliegh.  
William William's  
Usum Gilby  
Frances Withers.  
William Fuller.  
john Pullain  
William Bevoyes  
William Whi●tingham    
The Answer returned from Franck. by W. Kethe.  
The grace of god and the assistance of the holy ghost lighten and strengthen you to the understanding and constant retaining of his truth/ to the fartheraunce of his honour and glory and to the edifinge and maintenance of his church in Christ jesus our lord.  
dearly beloved/ as your letters were most welcome unto us/ both for that ye rejoice at the preferment of our godly queen/ and also tha● y● study how to promote the glory of god: So are w● right sorry that they came not afore the departure of such as ye seek a charitable reconciliation with all. For where as ye require that all such offences as have been given and taken between you and us may be forgotten hereafter: there be not here passed four left/ which were then present when ye dwelled here and not one of the learned ● sort saving M. Beesley. Yet/ we doubt not/ but as they promised in their former letters/ to forget all displeasures afore conceived/ so they will perform the same and esteem you as their brethren. And for our parts/ as we have had no contention with you at all afore time: so we purpose not (as we trust there shall be no cause) to enter into contention with you hereafter. For ceremonies to contend (where it shall lie neither in your hands or ours to appoint what they shall be but in such men's wisdoms as shall be appointed to the devising off the same and which shall be received by common consent off the parliament) it shallbe to small purpose. But we trust that both true religion shall be restored/ and that we shall not be burdened with unprofitable ceremonies. And therefore/ as we purpose to submit ourselves to such orders as shall be established by authority/ being not of themselves wicked/ so we would wish you willingly to do the same. For where as all the reformed churches differ among themselves in divers ceremonies/ and yet agreed in the unity of doctrine: we see no in convenience if we use some ceremonies divers from them/ so that we agreed in the chief points of our religion▪ notwithstanding/ if any shallbe intruded/ that shallbe offensive/ we/ upon just conference and deliberation upon the same at our meeting with you in England (which we trust by god's grace will be shortly) will brotherly join with you to be suitors for the reformation and abolishing of the same. In the mean season/ let us with one heart and mind call to the almighty god that off his infinite mercy/ he will finish and establish that work that he hath begun in our country/ and that we may all lovingly consent together in the earnest setting forth of his truth/ that god may be known and exalted/ and his church perfectly builded up through Christ our lord.  
From Frankford this 3. of januarie 1559. Your loving friends in the name off the rest off the church. 

james Pilk●ngton  
john Mullings  
Henry Carowe  
Edmond Isaac  
john Browne  
Henry Knolls  
Frances Wilford  
Alexander nowell  
Richard Beesley  
john Gray  
Christopher Brickbate.    
An Answer brought from the congregation of Arrow by W. Kethe.  
The Father of mercies and God of all consolation confirm increase and continue you always in the love off his son jesus Christ our lord.  
PRaised be God through our lord jesus Christ which pulled down marry that did persecute/ and hath set up the godly lady Elizabeth Queen of England/ to restore and maintain there/ the pure preaching of his word. And for that it hath pleased god to move your good hearts/ for the furtherance of the same/ with godly zeal and charitable desire by your letters/ to show unto us your advise and purpose and also to require ours to be returned and sent unto you by our brother Kethe: We do with most hearty thanks unfeignedly afore god certify you/ that to your counsel and conference with us/ we do consent willingly concerning your most godly request/ for that we acknowledge/ that the same shall be to the advancement of his glory and quietness of his church. Also/ we desire you that as oft as we may find hereafter any occasion to consult and confer by word or writing/ that then both you and we so take and seek the same as may be most to our unity in minds/ and diligence to do good in the lords work. And furthermore for the forgetting and putting away all occasions of offences we do likewise consent unto your good ensample and request/ And so finally for the preaching or professing off sincere doctrine so as we have seen and learned in the best reformed churches we do gladly hear your advise to be so agreeable to our purpose that we beseech you to pray with us/ that you and all we together that be faithful may continue/ proceed/ and prospero in godly zeele/ charitable concord and earnest diligence to honour and serve god and to comfort and edify his elect all times and in every place and especially now in England. O lord not unto us but unto they name be honour and praise for ever.  
From Arrow/ this 16. of jan. 1559. Your loving friends of the ministry in the in the name and by the consent of the whole church. 

Thomas Leaver.  
Robart Pownall.  
Richard Laughorne.  
Thomas Turpin.    
Now when as W Kethe was returned to Geneva with answer from the congregations and companies/ that were dispersed in sundry places of Germany and Helvetia/ the congregation (after that they had rendered their humble thanks to the magistrates for their great goodness towards them prepared themselves to departed saving certain which remained behind the rest/ to wit to finish the bible/ and the psalms both in meeter and prose/ which were already begun/ at the charges off such as were off most ability in that congregation. And with what success those works were finished/ (especially the Bible) I must leave it to the judgements of the godly learned/ who should best judge off the same.  
But if that Bible be such/ as no enemy of god could justly find fault with: then may men marvel that such a work/ (being so profitable) should find so small favour/ as not to be printed again. if it be not faithfully translated/ then let it still find as little favour as it doth because off the inconveniences that a false translation brings with it. The Ministers of Geneva in an Epliste which they wrote/ before the new Testament have these words.  
There is nothing more requisite to attain the right and absolute knowledge of the doctrine of salvation/ whereby to resist all heresy and falsehood/ then to have the text of the Scriptures faithfully and truly translated/ the consideration whereof moved them with one assent (as they say in that Epistle to request 2. of their brethren/ to wit/ Caluin and Beza/ efsonnes to peruse the same notwithstanding their former travels. Beza also in his Epistle to the prince off condy and nobles of France hath these words. seeing then all these controversies must be discussed by God's word/ I suppose that this thing aught chief to be provided for/ that seeing all cannot have the knowledge to understand the word of God in these peculiar languages/ the Hebrew and the greek (which were to be wished) that there should be some true and apt translation of the old and new testament made the which divers have already laboured to bring to pass/ but yet no man hath hitherto sufficiently performed it. For the old translation (whose so ever it is) although it aught not to be condemned/ yet is it found both obscure unperfect and superfluous and also false in many places/ to speak nothing of an infinite variety of the copies. The which text therefore many learned and godly men have laboured to amend/ but not with like success. And yet how necessary a thing this is/ who so ever shall read those most learned writers of the grecians/ and shall compare their interpretations (which are many times far from the purpose) with the Hebrew verity/ he shall confess it with great sorrow.  
And the same evil was not only hurtful among the latin writers/ but also the ignorance of the greek tongue wherewith many of them were troubled/ whiles they did depend off the common translation/ they oft-times seek a knot in a rush (according to the old proverb) and fell into most fowl errors. This cause therefore hath moved me to compare most diligently the diversity of copies/ and to way the sentences and judgements of the most part of the learned men specially of them that this age hath brought forth/ skilful in the languages/ who are more in number dowteles and better learned than the church hath had sithence the time of the Apostles/ and so ease them some what that desire a more pure interpretation.  
And that it might be done with more profit I have also added annotations/ in the which I have also compared together the diversity of interpetations and as much as I could I have laboured to make plain and evident the sense and meaning of all the dark places/ etc.  
Thus far Beza/ by whose judgement and the rest ye see/ that to have the holy Scriptures truly and faithfully translated is a matter of no small importance. Here might I touch a thing parhapp worth the hearing if hope were off redress/ which is/ that if the learned were but one halff so earnest zealous/ and careful/ to see that the holy Scriptures in this Realm might be faithfully translated and truly corrected/ as they are many times about matters nothing so necessary: I would not doubt to say that they should do unto god an excellent piece of service. For the most part of our English Bibles are so ill translated (as the learned report) and so falsely printed (as the simple may find) that such had need to be very well acquainted with scripture/ as in many places should get out the true meaning and sense. And it is high time to look unto this/ considering/ that in most parts off this Realm preachers ye have none/ nor any that can or will preach (very few excepted) saving certain wanderers/ amongst whom (and specially in some shears) are such ruffenly ●ak●helles/ and common conseners permitted and suffered/ by whose preachings ● the word of truth is become odious/ in the eyes off the people. seeing then (I say) that in most places/ the ministry doth stand and consist of old popish priests/ tolerated readers and many new made ministers/ whose readinge are such/ that the people cannot be edified/ especially/ where one is tolerated to serve 2. or 3. churches and turning their backs to the people. I leave to the consideration of such (who have to deal in this matter) what great and intolerable mischiefs may come more and more/ (by suffering such corrupted Bibles in churches and else where) to the poor simple flock of Christ. But now to draw to an end. ye see (brethren) by this brieff and short discourse/ that the grudge whereupon this dissension hangeth is passed the age off a child/ and therefore may (without offence I hope) be called an old grudge/ which/ as it seemeth/ was never yet thoroughly healed/ as will more and more appear/ as this discourse shall be from time to time continued/ till it be brought even to this present time/ which time verily/ is so extreme as the like hath rarely been hard off. For it is come to pass/ that if any should but with a godly grief bewail the imperfections that remain and crave for redress: yea/ but suspected/ or should but by malice off an Atheist/ a Papist/ or Epicure be presented: such are not only reviled and taunted/ skoffed at and termed by these odious names of precisian/ puritain/ contentious/ seditious/ rebel/ traitor and what not: but also if he come once in presence of the bishops/ and subscribe not to what so ever they will/ then/ (if he have living) to be deprived/ or whither he have living or not/ be he learned or unlearned/ be he man or woman/ halt or blind/ to prison he must/ without all redemption.  
I will not say that (in the mean time) such as are turn coats and can change with all seasons/ subscribing to what so ever/ and can cap it can cope it an cury for advantage/ that such/ I say/ how ignorant/ how vicious/ and ungodly so ever they be/ live at their ease in all pleasure and in some place are thought to be most meet men for the ministery. But this I may be bold to affirm/ that/ (although in very deed I neither do nor dare condemn certain godly persons/ who of infirmity/ but yet with most sorrowful and heavy hearts (as hath well appeared by their most lamentable protestations with plenty of tears to their congregations) have yielded to more than expedient it were they should/ (praying the lord to let them see it in time) yet/ it may not only be said/ but proved too I trust/ that neither is subscribing always a sure note off good subject nor yet the refusal dew proofs of a rebel.  
The greatest Traitors and rebels that godly King Edward had in the west parts/ were priests/ and such as had subscribed to the book or what so ever by law was then in force/ but for all their subscribings/ there was no skirmish/ where some off those subscibers left nor their karkaises in the filled against god and their prince. Plumtree and his fellow priests of the north/ I doubt not but they were conformable and appliable to all orders and never staggered at subscriptions. But for all that/ time tried their traitorous hearts.  
But in all the stirs which have happened either sithence the Queen's majesty came to the crown or before I have not hard off so m●che as one (minister or other) that hath lifted up his hand against her majesty or state/ whom it pleaseth the envious and malicious man/ to term precision/ and puritain in great despite and contempt. In deed/ this have I found out and learned/ that even such as must be content and patiently bear those odious names of puritan precisian/ traitor/ and rebel/ have yet been the men/ who most faithfully (in their calling) have served the queen's majesty and their country both with in the realm and with out the realm in Garnison and in filled/ hazarding their bodies against hargabuze and cannon/ when as those who now so furiously charge them both out of pulpits and other places durst not or at lest would not in any such service off the prince and country be seen. For proof hereof/ if you call to remembrance/ who hazardid his life with that old/ Honourable Earl of Bedford when as he was sent to subdue the popish rebels of the west/ you shall find that none of the clergy were hasty to take that service in hand/ but only old father Coverdale. When most likelode was off danger between the Sko●●s and us/ the preacher to the soldiers was first Master Samson/ and afterward Master Greshopp when as the right honourable Earl of Bedford that now is had there the charge. The Earl of warwick at his being in Newhaven/ had in deed with him certain Ministers for a time/ but after that the Cannon came and began to roar/ and the plague of pestilence so terribly to rage's/ then (I ween) not a Minister there left/ but Master Kethe alone. And when as means were made to have more Ministers over/ to aid the said Kethe (who had so much to do/ what with preaching/ and visiting the poor sick Soldiers which were in no small numbers) there could not be found (as that right noble Earl can upon his honour testify so much as one which could be brought to somuch comformitie/ as to subscribe to any such service off the Queen's Majesty.  
When SAINT▪ Henry Sidney had to do with the Popish rebels pff Ireland. Master Christop. Goodman showed his faithful diligence in that service. When the Earl of warwick was sent to subdue the popish rebels in the north-partes/ the preachers of the Queen's majesties Army were Kethe/ Thames/ and standon who offered themselves in that service voluntarily with out all constraint. And thus it is evident/ that these with a number more who are now so ill thought off/ as if they were traitors and rebels/ have yet been so far off from bring seditious/ that they have at all times adventured their lives against seditious persons and rebels/ when as such as now so hardly charge them both by word and writing/ have been right heartily well content/ to take their ease and rest at home.  
Considering then/ how many ways we are unjustly burdened and brought into hatred without just cause/ I supposed/ that no godly man would be offended/ if by such lawful means as I might/ I sought both to purge myself and the rest off my brethren/ from such heinous and odious crimes as some would seem to charge us. And that could I not do so well any way/ as by the gathering together of this discourse/ wherein the indifferent reader shall find/ that the religion which we hold and profess/ is not only the true and sincere religion of Christ/ and the self same with all the reformed churches in Christendom/ but also that which this Realm hath established/ touching the true doctrine commonly taught therein. By this discourse also/ it may be seen/ both when/ where/ how/ and by whom this controversy first began/ who continued it/ who was on the suffering side and who readiest to forget and forgive/ that godly peace and concord might be had. Now/ if any shall seem to be offended with this that I had done/ I do most humbly beseech them/ to way well and expend with themselves/ first/ whither I have given them any such cause/ if it be for that I have in this discourse brought to light some thing that might have been kept secret/ (the contention being among brethren) to the end the common enemy should not have cause to triumph; let this satisfy them: first/ that the wicked and common enemy cannot (for his heart) more triumph over the Godly than he doth already and that through out this whole realm. Again/ the cruelty of Cain to Abel/ off Ishmael to Isaac/ off Esau to jacob/ off the patriarchs to their brother joseph/ the hot contention between Paul and Barnabas and Paul and Peter etc. all these being known/ to the world hath turned notwithstanding to the great glory of God/ as my assured hope is that even this will also in the end.  
And therefore/ as the lord of heaven knoweth that the keeping off these things almost by the space off these twenty years in secret/ might suffice to witness with me that I had now no great pleasure to utter it/ so I wot not how it cometh to pass that even in the midst off great striving/ and struglinge with myself what to do/ I could not be by any means resolved/ or see just cause/ why I should any longer conceal it.  
if any should think that I have not with indifferency/ penned the story: I refer me (to satisfy such) to the judgements and consciences of those persons/ who were the players of this tragedy/ (off both parts many yet living) assuring myself that neither part shall be able justly to charge me/ except it be for that in very deed I have sought rather how to cover many things/ then to lay them wide open to the world/ as I nothing doubt to prove though I might be but hard indifferently/ in so much as in this discourse I have (asmuch as I could) passed over the names off all where credit might seem to have been impaired thereby (saving only of such as were off very necessity to be noted for the better understanding off the history.  
To conclude: against the offences which some may take at these my travels/ I have set the great profit that this may bring to god's church and to the posterity/ who being taught by other men's harms (if they be happy) will learn to beware the hope whereof had greater force to push my pen forward to the finishing off this work/ then the displeasures off certain (arising so far as I see off no ground) could be to withdraw me from the same. beseeching almighty god so strengthen me with his holy spirit/ that what troubles or trials so ever shall by the lords good providence happen to me hereby/ he will vouchsafe to give me a contented mind quietly and with patience to bear it/ before whom I protest/ that in writing this discourse I have had respect to his glory/ the defence of his sacred truth/ the cleeringe/ so far as I might/ off so many excellent learned men (on whose necks this stir is laid as authors of the same) and not that I have willingly sought the hurt/ hindrance/ or discredit off any man.  And this I/ 
Phi●  pray that your love may abound yet more and more in knowledge and in all judgement that ye may discern things that differ one from another/ that ye may be pure and without offence until the day of Christ Keep the true pattern of the wholesome words which thou haste hard of me in faith and love which is in Christ jesus. 
●. Tim. ●.  Study to show thyself approved unto god a workman that needeth not to be ashamed dividing the word of truth aright. 
2. Tim. ●.   

The answer off the ministers of Geneva to certain brethren of the church of England concerning some controversy in the Ecclesiastical policy.  
Being right earnestly and often required by certain dear brethren of the church of England that we would in their miserable state give them some kind of counsel whereon their consciences might be stayed/ the judgement of many being therein divers: we did long differre the satisfinge of their requests upon weighty causes. And we assure the reader that even now also we most gladly would hold our peace/ were it not a matter of conscience to reject the suit of the brethren so often enforced and with most grievous groanings renewed. of which stiffened silence of ours these were the causes/ first/ as on the one part we doubt not off the credit off the brethren/ as though they had not sincerely described the state of the cause unto us/ so on the other side it is most hard for to suspect such things/ so clean besides all office of bishops much less persuade ourselves the same by such personages done.  
And farther/ what men are we that we should determine upon such causes. Also/ if it were lawful for us either by authority/ or else by consent or request of either parties/ to give sentence here upon/ yet were it a matter most wrongful either party not hard or not present to determine. last of all fear mistrusted least so great a mischieff should by this our counsel (how simple so ever it is) rather become raw than skined: it being a sore of so desperate a nature/ as that it seemeth to be/ that prayers and patience can only salve the same.  
seeing then/ that by the sundry requests off the brethren/ we are so hardly persuaded/ that off force we aught to give them some kind of advise: We do openly protest/ that we so give to same herein as those that will not in any wise prejudice the other party/ much less chalinge to us a iusticiers room over any. And all those men (into whose hands these do come) we do in the lord desire/ that they be not herewith offended/ but do persuade themselves that these contents are both simply and faithfully written of us as upon a questioned cause granted/ that the consciences of the brethren which desire it/ might some way be better appeased/ which to set altogether at naught were a deed wholly void off charity.  
Therefore/ the cause standing as we ar● informed/ we profess plainly and in Good faith that our judgements over these questions are thus.  
It is demanded/ whither we can approve this disorder in calling of men to the function of the Ministry/ which is/ that the multitude of those which sue for order shallbe enroled in the ministery both without the voices of elders and also no certain cure appointed them but lightly examined off their lives and behaviour/ to whom also/ at the lust of the Bishop shall liberty be given afterwards to preach the word of god for a time prescribed/ otherwise to rehearse only the church service.  
We answer/ that such callings of Ministers/ whither we answer them by the rule off Gods express word● or else by force off Cannons that are best tried and allowed are holden and esteemed of us/ altogether unlawful/ abeit we know that it is better to have half a loffe then no bread. But we beseech god with our whole hearts that it also will please him to bestow upon the kingdom of England also the same (that is) a lawful and ordinary calling of men to the ministery of the word and Sacraments. For it being either kept out or hindered/ the benefit of the doctrine of truth must of force by and by vanish away or else be hold up by some means that is strange/ yea/ altogether ghostly and supernatural.  
Furthermore/ we do in Gods most holy name most humbly sue to the princes sovereign majesty/ that with the whole force off her mind/ she endeavour the correction of this point wherein the whole ground and stay of the church of England and therefore of the Realm also/ doth stand and persist.  
And thirdly we do with tears beseech both those high personages that are of her majesties honourable counsel/ and those which have succeeded in the place off the popish bishops/ (undoubtedly through the special mercy off the high and Good god) that they out of the self same place where overthrow and destruction did issue/ they should utterly destroy that tyranny which hath thus cast down headlong the very Christian church and we crave of them in the dreadful name of god before whose redoubted throne of judgement we all shall be arrested that with all consideration and mindfullnes of the years paste and conscience of their duty and charge/ they will not slack to vow and betrothe the●r whole diligence/ aswell in ordering the means that may accomplish this thing as in persuading the Queen's majesty thereto/ and that they cease not at all this thing being unacheved/ cheflie/ seeing god hath bestowed upon them/ the princely majesty off so singular a Mistress as from whose hands they can not but hope for all princely and excellent things/ unless they list in their own case to fail themselves. But some will ask/ how shall we do in this point/ until then: verily if the case were ours we would not receive this ministery upon these conditions iff it were proffered: a great deal less would we sue for it. Notwithstanding/ we exhort these men to whom god hath by this way made entrance to the enlarging of the glory off his kingdom that in the fear of god they do courageously abide therein/ yet with the condition that it may be lawful for them holily and regiliously to exercise all their whole ministery. And therefore may also propound/ and urge those things in their cures which do always appertain to the advancement of the better estate therein. For otherwise/ if they be forced of this liberty and so willed to wink at manifest abuses/ that they should also approve these things which dowtlesse aught to be redressed: what thing else can we persuade them then that they should retire from this/ to their private life rather than without conscience to nourish that mischief which doth off force draw whith it the whole wasting and decay of all the congregation? Yet we hope that the Queen's highness and so many honourable and good men will in such sort plant their diligence that rather privilege off liberty may be granted to the consciences of so many godly and learned brethren then that these horrible eue●●s should follow: To were/ that the pastors of the flocks should be constrained either against the soundness of their consciences to do that which is evil (and so to be chained in other men's sins/ or else to resign their ministery/ for that third necessity that will ensue this which is/ that against the princes and Bishops wills they shou●● excercise their office) we do so much the more tremble at/ because of those reasons which of themselves are plain enough/ albe●t we do not utter them.  
It is also desired of us to answer plainly and truly whither we do allow t●e distinction ordained in the wearing off copes and garments aswell for the common use/ as for the ministery.  
We therefore do flattlie answer the cause standing as we do understand/ that those men that are authors hereof do deserve most evil of the church and shall answer at the dreadful bar of Christ his judgement For although that we think that that politic order whereby not citizens alone/ but also the degrees of functions are marked and noted is not to be discommended wholly at all: yet we are off opinion that not every mark and note is strait way to be used. For put the case that the ministers were commanded to wear the pied coat of a fool or the garment of a vice in a play/ were it not manifest skorninge of the ministery so to do? And those that use these other garments and apparel commanded/ do seem verily to us to trespass somewhat worse than so/ because that the lord hath not only reared and set us this priestlike apparel as a toy to be laugh at even of many off the Papists themselves: But it is also certain/ that the same is polluted and defiled with infinite superstition. But some men will plead the antiquity thereof. Surely they are old/ and yet the Apostolic simplicity wherein the church did flourish/ is a great deal more ancient than this. Also/ if it please him to wade yet further to search about these matters/ it shall be easy enough to show that these things/ which after that/ did serve for the note and mark off the ministery were first usual among the people and common. And therefore whence cometh it/ things being altered after so long a season/ that this foreign and strange guise should be retained.  
Doth it not come off a zeal both evil and unprofitable▪ But some man will say: These things for all that are things of the middle sort and indifferent. We grant in deed that they are such if your will consider them simply and in their own nature/ and apart from all circumstances▪ but who are they that will so way and consider them For these m●n that are yet Papists/ what purpose so ever this civil law doth pretend/ are surely by these means established deeper in this superstition which hath so overgrown them. And these men that began so earnestly to abhor superstition/ that they now did detest monimentes and relics thereof: How much are they offended and wounded herein. As for those which are further/ and better learned/ what fruit reap they thereof. And farther is this difference and mark off the functions of such importance/ that therefore the consciences off so many should be troubled▪ especially seeing the reason and purpose thereof newly set abroach is but drawn even from those that are themselves the manifest sworn enemies to sound doctrine? What meaneth it also/ that off those also that are termed to be Ecclesiastically brought up and are in the ministery not the smalllest part/ are said to have their papistry in their breasts about with them? Is this the good hour wherein they shall better profit by restoring off this attire? or shall they not rather vaunt their crests as in hope to have popery restored again? Iff any shall object the circumsinge of Timothy and other like examples: we right earnestly pray him to consider what Paul would have said if any man should have made this law/ that every man that is in the ministery of the gospel shallbe constrained to wear the garments of the pharisees/ or that they in the apparel off profane priests should preach the gospel and administer the Sacraments/ and not only circumcise their children/ nowithstandinge that under some colour of reason/ this civil commandment might setfoorthe the same. yea to what end are these things brought in. for how so ever they might at the first be tolerated till that by little and little they might be taken away/ yet being once removed out of the churches/ we see not with what commodity they can be restored to their possession again. Therefore we do eftsonnes repeat that we before said/ that we can not allow this devise nor yet hope for any good to ensue thereof Notwithstanding/ we will gladly give over this opinion if we shall learn better reason therefore. What then (will the brethren say on whom these things are so thrown (judge you what we aught to do herein? we answer/ that there needeth in this answer a distinction. For the case off the ministers and the case of the people are not all one herein. Furthermore: Many things may/ yea/ and aught to be borne and tolerated which are notwithstanding not justly commanded. first therefore/ we answer/ that albeit these things (as we judge) are not rightly restored to their possession in the congregations/ yet/ seeing that they are not off those kind of things which are of their own nature impious and ungodly/ they seem to us not to be off such weight that the shepherds should rather give over their functions then receive the apparel/ or that the flock should refuse the public food of the soul rather than to receive the same from the shepherds/ that is apparelled herein: only/ that as well the sheaphardes as their flocks may not sin against there consciences (so that the purity of doctrine itself remain untouched) we do persuade the ministers/ after they have both before the queen's highness and also before the bishops. set their consciences at liberty by modest protestation (as doth appertain to such Christians as seek not sedition and tumult) and yet grave according to the importance of the cause/ that they do in deed openly in their parish/ still beat upon those things/ that may serve to the utter taking away of the stumbling block. And that as God shall give occasion they will wholly give themselves both wisely and meekly to correct all those abuses/ but yet to bear those things which they cannot straight way change/ rather then forsaking their congregation they should give occasion to Satan/ that seeketh nothing else to stir up greater and more perilous mischiefs than these. As for the people (the doctrine remaining unhurt) we do exhort them that for all these things they will diligently hear the same/ to use the Sacraments Religiously/ and so long to groan to God with earnest amendment off life until they obtain of them that which doth appertain to the full redress and amendment of the church.  
But again if that the Ministers be commanded not only to tolerate these things/ but also that they shall with their subscriptions allow them as lawful/ or else by their stillness foster them: what can we else persuade them to do but that having witnessed their innocency and in the fear off the lord tried all means/ they should give over their functions to open wrong. But our hearts betid us off England much better things than these extremities.  
Y● is demanded of us what we do judge off the trollinge and descanting off the Psalms/ crossing off those babes that shallbe baptised/ and off the demands in baptism/ also off the round unleavened waffercake and knelinge in the lords supper.  
We answer/ that kind of singing seemeth to be the corruption of the pure ancient church service and glorifinge of God therein. And as for crossing off babes/ whatsoever practise there hath been thereof in time of old/ yet is it most certain that it is truly in these days through so late greenness of the superstition so most abominable/ as that we judge those men to have done assuredly well that have once driven this rite out of the congregation whereof also we see not what the profit is. And we doubt not but the demands in baptism have crept into the church upon this occasion/ because that through the negligence of the bishops the same form of baptizing of children was retained which at the first rearing of the primative church/ was to be used at the baptizing off those that being off years did entre the profession of Christ. This thing also we may perceive by many the like yet in use in the popish baptism. Wherefore even as the cream and charm used in baptism are by god's law abolished although they were ancient/ so wish we also these demaundinge/ being not only vain but foolish should be also passed over albeit that S. Augustine himself doth seem in an Epistle of his to sustain it by certain devised construction.  
The bread whither it aught to be made with leaven or without we think it not greatly to be striven for/ although we judge it more fit and consonant with Christ's institution to have the bread at the communion/ which is used at the common table: for why did the lord use unleavened bread/ because that in that hour wherein he thought good to institute his holy supper/ not one man in all jewrie used any other. Therefore/ it behoveth us to restore the jewish feast of unleavened bread or else must it be granted that is better to use the common and accustomed bread of all tables according to the example off christ/ notwithstanding that the bread that he then took was unleavened: For of the practice off the primative church which the Greek church doth yet in this behalf retain we over pass to writ off.  
Furthermore kneeling at the very receipt of the sacrament hath in it a show off Oodly and Christian reverence and might therefore in times paste be used with profit/ yet for all that because out of this fountain the detestable use of bread worship did follow/ and doth yet in these days stick in many minds/ it seemeth to us that it was justly abolished out from the congregations. Therefore/ we do beseech the most Good and great God that it would please him to instruct both the Queen's majesties highness and also the bishops with such devise as shall be most needful for the perfect doing out of these filthes'/ and that at once. In the mean time/ because these things/ also are not such as are in their own nature Idolatrous we do judge that they aught so to be dealt with/ as we have advised in the things going next before.  
It is demanded of us whether we allow that baptism which is administered by midwives.  
We answer that not only we dissalowe that baptism as the rest off things before spoken off/ but that we do judge it also intolerable. For it is a thing that hath risen aswell of ignorance of the very use of baptism/ as the public ministery of the church. We judge therefore that the ministers are bound sharply to rebuke this abuse/ much less aught they to hold this false baptism/ for good and firm. The reason why/ the leened on our side have often declared. And we are also ready when it shallbe needful to declare.  
It is also reported unto us that the keys off binding and losing are practised in certain courts of the Bishops/ neither by the sentences and judgements of elders/ which office that church hath not yet received/ nor according to the word of God: but the authority off certain lawyers and other like/ which is more/ often times by the authority of some one man/ and that also for such kind of actions as are pure money matters even as the misuse off the same was in popery.  
Whereto we answer that it seemeth to us almost incredible that any such customs and examples (being most perverse) should be used in that kingdom/ where as purity and soundness of doctrine is. For the right of excommunication and binding off the offender shallbe found never to have been before the time of the Papists in the power and hand of on● sole person/ but did appertain to all the whole eldership/ from which also the people themselves were not rashly shut out. Because this also the lawierlike hearing off suits that appertain to livings did fall to the Bishops charge altogether through abuse. For that place wherein the Apostle talketh off days men umpires at Corinth is to no purpose where as the magistrate is a Christian: nor did the apostle ever think to burden the eldership with the hearing off such mere civil causes. And it is most certain/ that the bishops of the elder age off the church/ have had the determining off such controversies not for any authority that they had therein but through the importunity of suitors/ and that as howsolders umpires and days men Also/ notwithstanding among those men where this were showed unto/ those did most wisely govern themselves which chose rather to follow the example of Christ our Saviour/ who refused to be the umpire in dividing off the patrimony/ or else judge in the matter of adultery/ when both the same were preferred unto him.  
Therefore/ if in England any thing be done contrary to this/ surely we aught to think that by such sentences and judgements/ there is not any man before god any more bound then by the popish excommunications. And we wische that this torment house of consciences and loathsome profanation of the Ecclesiastical and mere spiritual jurisdiction might by the authority of the Queen's Majesty out of hand be abolished no otherwise then the marring of the very doctrine itself. And that Eldership and Deacons may be restored and set up according to the word of God and cannons of the pure church/ which thing/ if it be not done/ verily/ we are sore afraid that this only thing will be the beginning off many calamities/ which we would god/ would turn away from us. For it is most certain that the son of god will one day from heaven roughly revenge these manifest abuses/ wherewith the consciences of our brethren are troubled/ except speedily/ redress be had therein.  
In the mean whiles/ the things which are not well done by the one party/ may be well enough tolerated (as we think) by those men which bear the thing which they can not change. Yet thus far: as that they allow not the thing itself for good/ but do only redeem their unjust disquieting by patience. But if so be that they shallbe forced/ not only to tolerate this fashion but also to approve this excommunication as lawful and be constrained to ask unlawful absolution to assent to this manifest abuse/ we then exhort them that they will rather suffer any kind of trouble then to do herein against their consciences. But to what end is all this: For verily/ we do promise ourselves much better things than these/ yea/ off all things the best even at this pinch/ especially off that Realm in which/ the restoring of Christian Religion hath been sealed and confirmed with the blood of so many excellent martyrs also. Only/ we fear this/ least that which hath befallen so many countries should hap to England/ to wit/ least/ because the due fruits of repentance are not brought forth/ the angry god should double our darkness/ the light of his gospel being first taken from us. of this content are our daily preachings in our congregations/ and verily/ we think the same aught to be done off a●● Ministers of God's word especially in these our days. That they chiesty set forwards this principle of the gospel which doth appertain to earnest amendment of life. For this point achieved/ undowtedly the lord shall give both counsel and zeal and all things else which do necessarily appertain to the accompishement of the reparation of the church/ already begun. And before all we do require and with tears humbly crave that our good and right worshipful in the lord the brethren of the English churches/ all bitterness of mind set apart/ which we surely fear/ after what sort it hath on either side forced this evil/ would patiently bear and suffer each other/ so long as purity of Christian doctrine itself and soundness of conscience doth remain: Willingly to obey the Queen's Majesty who is full of compassion: And all other prelate's. And finally/ that with all concord minds in the lord/ of they manly set against Satan/ who seeketh all occasion of tumult and infinite calamities: yea/ although they have not like judgement of all sort of prealaets at the first. for this our writing/ god is our witness/ doth not tend to this purpose/ that either part should use it against other as that we should sand it to you as an apple of contention: Although we have concerning these matters declared our judgements/ even simply/ as upon a supposed case/ (god is our witness) being overcome with the continual suit off our brethren. And we join our daily prayers to the groanings of all the godly on that side the seas/ that it may please the most merciful god having compassion on man's frailty/ to direct the Queen's highness/ and all the nobles of the realm of England. Also every prelate/ and finally/ each workman of this spiritual building with his holy spirit most effectuously/ so as the work off the lord so often begun and so often stayed may luckily be set forward to the great quietness and concord of all men not only the old stains in the doctrine itself and Ecclesiastical discipline also/ being at length utterly done out/ but also all monstrousness of errors and which Satan newly seeketh to bring into the church again driven away. Which vouchesaffe to bring to pass through his holy spirit/ the most kind father in jesus christ/ his very son eternal and consubstantial with him/ in which persons/ we profess one god/ and not divers/ aught to he worshipped for ever.  
Amen at Geneva the 24. October. 1547. Your brethren in Christ to all your godliness most assured. 

Theodor●s Beza, etc.  
Remundus Caluetus  
Nicolaus Coladonu●  
Io. Gai●g●aeziu●  
Io. Tremlerus  
johan ●inaldus.  
Goe Favergius  
Car. P.  
●gid. Ca●seu●:  
Io. Parnilius.  
Kuds Faverius  
Vrb. Calue●us  
Slm. Golerlius  
Pet. Carpenteru●.  
Fransc. Portu●  
Cor. Barlierd●●  
Hen. S.  
Ab●●n. Dup●eu●    
A Copy of the letter sent to the bishops and Pastors of England/ who haith renunced the Roman antichrist and profess the lord jesus in sincerity.  
The superintendant Ministers/ and commissionars of charges within the Realm of Skotland: To their brethren the bishops and Pastors of England/ who haith renunced the Roman antichrist/ and do profess with them the lord jesus in sincerity/ desire the perpetual increase off the holy spirit.  
BY word and writ it is come to our knowledge (reverend Pastors that divers of our dearest brethren) amongst whom are some of the best learned within that Realm/ are depriu●● from Ecclesiastical function and forbidden to preach/ and so by you that they are staie● to promote the kingdom of jesus christ/ bicaus their consciences will not suffer to take upon them (at the commandment of the authority) such garments as idolaters in time off blinds have vse● in their Idolatry/ which brute cannot be but most dolorous to our hearts/ mindful off that sentence off the apostle/ sainge/ if ye bit and devour one an other/ take head least ye be consumit one of an other. We purpose not at this present to enter into the ground of that question whil●e we hear off/ ●ither part to be agitate with gre●●er vehemency than well liketh us to wit. Whidder that such apparel is to be counted amongs things that are simply indifferint or not/ but in the bowels of lord jesus we crave the Christian charity may so prevail in you/ in you we say/ the pastoris and leaders of the flock within that Realm.  
That ye do not to others that/ which you would not others should do to you. You cannot be ignorant how ●ende● a thing the conscience of man is. All that have knowledge are not a like perswadet. your consciences reclaims not a● wearing of such garments/ but many thousants both godly and lernet are otherwise perswadet whose consciences are continually stricken with these sentences: what haveth Christ jesus to do with belial? what feloshipp is their betwixt darkness and lic●t? if surplese/ corner cap/ and tippet have been badges off idolaters in the very act off their idolatry/ what haht the preachers of Christian liberty and the open rebuker off all superstition to do with the dregs of the romish beast? Our brothern that off conscience refusse that unprofitable apparel/ do neither damn your nor molest you that use such vain trifles. if ye shall do the like to thaim/ we doubt not but thairin ye ●all pleese god and comfort the hearts of many whilk are wounded with extremity/ which is used against those godly and our beloved brethren. Colour off rethorik or manly persuasion will we use none/ but charitably we desire you to call that sentence of pity to mind: feed the flock of God which which is committed to your charge caring for them not by constranit but willingly not as though ye were lords over God's heritage/ but that ye may be examples to ye flock. And farther also/ we desire you ●o meditate that sentence off the Apostle/ saying: give none offence/ neither to the jews nor to the Grecians nor to the church of God? In what condition of time ye and we both trauiel● in the promoting of Christ's kingdomm we suppose you not to be ignorant. And therefore/ we are more bold to exhort you to walk more circumspectly/ then that for such vanities/ the godly should be troubled. For all things that may seem lawful/ edify not. if the commandment of authority urge the conscience of yours and our brethren more than they can beer: we unfenedlye crave off you/ that ye remember that ye are callit the licht off the world and the earth.  
All civil authority hath not the licht of God always schin●●ge before their eyes in the statutes and commandments/ but their affections of times savour to much of the earth and off worldly wisdom.  
And therefore/ we think that ye should baldly oppone yourself to all power that will or dare extol the self not only against/ God but also against all such as do burden the consciences of the faithful farther than god hes burthenit them/ by his own word. But here in/ we confess our offence in that we have entered farther in reasoning then we we purposet/ a promiset at the beginning. And therefore/ we shortly return to our former humble supplication/ which is/ that our brethren who amongs you refuse the romish rags/ may find off you the prelatis such favours as our heid and master commandis every one of his members to show one to an other/ whilk we luck to receive of your gentleness/ not only for that ye seer to offend God's majesty/ in troubling off your brethren for such vane trifles. But also/ because ye will not refuse the humble requests of us your brethren and fellow preachers of Christ's jesus/ in whom/ albeit their appear no great worldly pomp/ yet we suppose you will not so far despise us/ but that ye will esteem us to be off the number of those that fight against that Roman antichrist/ and traveil that the kingdomme off Christ jesus universally may be mainteened and auanced. The days are evil. Iniquity abownds. Christian charity (alas) is waxin cold. And therefore we aught the more diligently to watch. For the hour is uncertain when the lord jesus shall appear/ before whom we your brethren and ye may give an account of our administration.  
And thus in conclusion/ we once again crave favour to our brothern which granted/ ye in the lord shall command us in things off double more importance. The lord jesus rule your hearts in his true fear to the end. And give unto you and unto us victory over that conjured enemy of all true Religion▪ To wit/ over that Roman antichrist/ whose wounded he●d Satan by all man's lab●ris to cure again/ but to destruction shall he and his maintainers go/ by the power off the lord jesus. To whose mighty power and protection we heartily commit you.  
Subscribet by the hands of Superintendentes' one part of Ministers/ and scribet in our general assemblies and fourth session thereof.  
Ad Edenbroug the 28. day of December 1566. Your loving brethren and fellow preachers in Christ jesus. 

Io. Craig.  
jaco. Mailuil.  
Rob. Pont.  
Guil. Gislisonus  
Nic. Spittall.  
Io. Row  
Da. Lyndesay  
Io. Erskin.  
Io. Wiram.  
Io. Spottiswoood.    
THus have yond hard in these .2. letters/ the judgements of those excellent churches of the french and the Skottishe touching the things in controversy. Now/ if to these I should add all other which are off the same judgement and of their opinion: the number of churches would be so many/ that the adversaries should evidently see and perceive what small cause they have to charge us thus with singularity/ as though we were post alone/ and none to be off our opinion. And it may here also be noted/ that the most ancientest fathers of this our own country/ as master Coverdale/ master D. Turner/ master Whithead/ and many others some dead some yet living from whose mouths and pens/ the urgers of these received first the light off the gospel (could never be brought to yield or consent unto such things as are now forced with so great extremity.  
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Correction off those faults which might somewhat stay the reader the first number showing the page/ the second the line.  
PAge 2. line 18. enioned, read enjoyed. pag. 3. lin. 5. is. Re. it. pag. 10. li. 22. your, R. you. pag. 25. li. 12. descent. R. dissent. pag. 27. li. 4. parie R. party. pag. 38. lin. 24. end, R. tend. pa. 44· li. 9 ceri●ine, R. certain. pa. 47. li. 20. let, R. letter. pa. 65. li. 17. subscription, R. superscription. pa. 72. l.. 36. world. R. would. pa. 76. li. 10. stuck the pastor, R. stuck to the pastor. Lively 15. wison, R. wilson. pag. 82. lin. 19 were, R. where. pag. 86. li. 5. congregagation, R. congregation. pag. 97. lin. 30. dinner, R. dinner. pag. 123. lin. 7. the, R. then Pa. 132. lin. 22. incompent, R. incompetent, pa. 179. l. 23. td, R. to. pag. 194. lin. 8. cons●ners, R. cozeners, pag. 200. lin. 22. to R. the.