Mr. FULLER's ANSWER TO THE JACOBITES. LONDON: Printed for the Author; and to be Sold by Eliz. Harris, at the Harrow, in Little-Britain. 1700. Mr. Fuller's Answer TO THE JACOBITES. GENTLEMEN, THO' with good Reason you conceal your Names, and being not able to stand to what you falsely vent against me; yet this one time more I will prove you in the Wrong, of almost every thing that you urge, to invalidate my Testimony, with relation to that Impostor the Pretended Prince of Wales: And whereas in the very Beginning of your Letter to me, you say the Gentleman who chastised me lately, had foiled me; I do frankly leave that to the judgement of all impartial Persons, who have red his Book, and my Letter to the late Lord Mayor, which neither he nor you could possibly answer upon fair Terms: But having the Bookseller, Printer and Publisher, Zealots for your Cause, you'll say something, tho' to very little Purpose: And, in truth, I scorn such a Parcel of Rascals as you are, and are known to be to the Government; witness the several times your Cudgeller of Authors, Mr. A. Roper, and his Footman News-writer, the famous Jacobite Thomas, with honest Mr. Beardwell, that they have been in Custody of the Messengers, summoned before the Privy-Council, and the like, for printing Seditious News and Pamphlets against the Government: Therefore, I say, not to give you further occasion of coming into Custody again, but to deal plainly and truly with all True English Men,( whom you term Ignorant) because they cannot believe the Legitimacy of your Darling Sham-Prince, I sand this small Paper, which contains such a real Truth, that I am content for ever to be silent, if any Persons on Earth can prove the least Untruth contained in it. I shall not trouble myself with your Observations on my going to my Lord Mayor, only say, I was more than once with him, and used Civilly, and with Respect: And as for the Selling of my Books, I can honestly affirm, that in my whole Life, I never cleared 12 l. by all I have wrote; nor was my Design tending to my own Interest, but the Good of my Country, which is a Cause I am very proud to espouse, since I can honestly do it; and am not a whit discouraged by your Insolence, in saying,( His Majesty and his Subjects could have spared me the Tender of it) but I know better Things; and you'll soon, perhaps, to the Purpose, find my Writings will be valued, when you nor yours dare not appear for Fear or shane( if your Party have any of the latter) and the Gentleman I mentioned, and several other Witnesses for me, are arrived from Holland, and other Parts, ready when the Parliament meets, to prove you Rogues and liars. And as for what I averred concerning Mr. Settel's asking my Pardon, I can prove it, and both he and you shall find I will; and that the Book you vindicate, entitled, My Life, is a Bundle of Untruths, as I proved it long since in my Second Book, published by Mr. Baldwin; and by reason you affirmed, that Mr. Settel would give me a meeting, I called at Mr. Roper's Shop on Saturday Night, and left Word where he might sand to me, and that I desired a meeting speedily: But Mr. Settel is a Man very well known, and will say or unsay any thing for Half a Crown, or a lusty Dinner. But I can also prove against him, that he not only confessed that Book to be lies of his and Roper's Invention, but he added, that Roper had many Presents given him by the most considerable Jacobites, for his Zeal in abusing me as he did by that Book; and Settel owned, that he came in for a Share of the Presents also: Nor can there be any Reason to doubt, but the same Party is as kind now as ever, which makes my Antagonist so warm in the Matter. But I purpose not to dispute, but to come to the Matter, and tell you( which is one of your inquiries) How His present Majesty came to know the Management of this Supposititious Birth of the Pretended Prince of Wales, before I had, as you term it, hammered out the Story of Mrs. Mary Grey, viz. It was discovered to the King, when Prince of Orange, by several Persons of Quality in England and Ireland, who had been strict Observers of Mrs. Grey's being brought over big with Child, and the Method which was taken of disposing of her at St. James's, and her being carried to France; which was not so secretly managed, but that several of His Majesty's Friends had the Opportunity to prie into the Matter, as sufficiently appears by their Depositions and Informations, which were given, and are now in the Custody of the present King and His Ministers of State, which is by them apparently owned; and these said Informations were a plain Proof of that Imposture, in many of the most particular Circumstances of that Management: So that His Majesty, who bears the greatest Abhorrence to any thing that is false, was graciously pleased to express himself mildly in the Matter, when he terms his Knowledge of that false Birth, to be grounded on great and violent Presumptions: But His Majesty's Moderation and Goodness has been continually misconstru'd and abused, by such absurd and insolent Fellows as our Authors, and their Companions are, who take upon them by all the basest Means imaginable, even to dare the Justice of the Government, to whom I leave them for their deserved Reward. And forasmuch as the Author in the Letter to me has the Assurance to say, that the Number of Witnesses which I offer to produce( to prove what I assert) he durst be sworn, should they be called for, would be return'd non sunt inventi, like Col. Dalleval and Mr. Hays; I do aver again, that their Depositions are taken already by the Ministers of State; and because he would insinuate, that the Author of the Plain Proof labours under such an Immaturity of judgement, that K. James and his Adherents had so little to fear from him, that they could not but see he would entangle himself, and work his own ruin, without their being at the Trouble of sending 2 Gentlemen over to draw him into the Noose: To this I shall reply, and be glad of his Answer, That if K. James, his Queen, and Adherents had not feared my Discoveries, how came it to pass, that 12 Months after I left their Service, and had revealed all I knew of their Intrigues to His present Majesty, that King James should sand me( unasked) his Pardon, under his Hand and Seal; which was brought and left at my Lodgings in the Pall-mall, with a Letter from the Earl of Melford, then Secretary at St. germans, assuring me of all imaginable Favour, and Orders where to receive 500 l. immediately, provided I would return to France; this Pardon I carried with the Letter instantly to His present Majesty, who sent me to the Right Honourable the Lord Chief Justice Holt, for his Lordship's Advice in the Matter several times: And to counterfeit the Hand and Great Seal of the late King, and my Lord Milford's Hand, is a thing impossible certainly for any Man to do. And however strange this may seem, I do aver, that it is Truth, and the Pardon and Letter is ready to be produced. And yet further, if K. James, &c. had no Apprehensions of my being a material Witness in some Cases that nearly concerned them, how came they to hire Mr. James White to poison me, by giving him a Reward of 1000 l. in Hand, and as much more to be paid as soon as I was dead; as the said Mr. White not only confessed, but has given on Oath before the Secretary of State; and that I were poisoned, is sufficiently attested by several Doctors, Surgeons, &c. and known to many that saw me in that miserable Condition, lying near 12 Weeks without speaking or stirring, but as I was moved by others, and for 7 Weeks together my Life was not expected one Hour, and the continual Racks the poison gave me, were such Torments as no Tongue nor Pen can express; nor did their Malice end here, for I can easily prove that I have been often laid in wait for, by such of K. James's Friends as have sworn to have my Life: I have also been assassinated by them, and dangerously wounded. And pray, Gentlemen, why all this, if my Testimony were not feared? Have I not been continually barbarously treated, even by my Friends, who by the cunning Devices of my Enemies, have been wrought upon to be my mortal Enemies? Have I not to the uttermost shared the common hard Fate which attends every one that serves the public honestly? Are not all the Priests, Jesuits, Jacobites, and Devils incarnate, jointly sworn my mortal Enemies? And what wonder then if one simplo Fellow, as I own myself to be, should be overcome by them, my Life they may have, as they swear they will, but from the Truth I will never swerve,( as in public Matters I defy all Mankind to prove I ever have.) And in my private concerns, all the Crimes they can fairly charge me with, is my being in Debt, which I hope suddenly to remove: And I may truly say, most of those Debts were contracted in the Nation's Service, but I shall forbear to reflect on the unkind Usage I have met with. There remains Two Questions which this last Author of the Letter to me desires me to answer, which I readily comply with: The First is, Did not Mr. John Salisbury, Bookseller, at the Rising Sun, in Cornhill, buy the very Letters which are inserted in the Plain Proof of Mr. William Fuller, for a Parcel of Guinea's, 3 or 4 Years since, and after Enquiry at Court about the Truth of them, rather choose to sit down with the Loss of his Copy-money, than print such horrid Falshoods? To this I answer, That about 4 Years since, Mr. Salisbury did agree with me for the Copy of a Book, which was begun by me, and had 13 Letters in it, to prove that the late King James and his Ministers had from time to time been privy to all the Conspiracies in England since the Revolution, and that it had been by K. James's immediate Order, that Persons had several times formed Designs of assassinating his present Majesty: And all the Letters Mr. Salisbury had were only relating to that Matter, and not to the Birth of the Pretended Prince of Wales, as our Author would make the World believe, which may be seen by the said Copies, in the Hands, I presume, of Mr. Salisbury's Executors, &c. For they are writ by my own Hand, as I took them from the Originals, now in the Hands of the Ministers of State; and as for Mr Salisbury's Enquiry after the Truth of them, it is notoriously false, that any thing was said of their being not true; and the Reason they were not printed, was occasioned by a Dispute betwixt Salisbury and Mr. Baldwin, concerning some Right the latter claimed in the Printing of them; so I did not finish the said Book, being desirous first to adjust the Matter betwixt them, and offered Salisbury to return him his 3 Guinea's, he had paid in Earnest for them, provided he would have return'd the Letters to me, and afterwards have come in equal Sharer with Mr. Baldwin and Partners: But Salisbury would not comply on any Terms; so that I going presently after into the Country, the said Letters were not published, and before my return Salisbury was dead: But I have obtained leave to take these Copies again from the Originals, which, with near 200 more goes this Week to the Press; which will demonstrate, that I have honestly answered this Enquiry. And as for the next: Has not William Fuller, Gent. been down at his Country Seat in Southampton Goal this Summer, instead of venturing beyond the Seas, and holding Disputes with Priests at liege and Antwerp? To these I answer, That I was in Prison there for Debts I contracted, in endeavouring to serve the Government, by detecting two Persons that are outlawed for High-Treason, and came over into England, and were returning from France by Vessels that go to Jersey; but I being known to some notorious Jacobites in that Place, they presently gave the Alarm, and by a cunning Stratagem, too tedious here to relate, they got me Arrested for Debt, and then maliciously aspersed me at their Pleasure; but I came out of that Prison in May, and went to Holland when the King went over; and after I had been a Fortnight with His Majesty at the Hague and Loo, I went for Antwerp, and stayed there conversing every Day with Father Hunter, and all the English Priests and Nuns there, who treated me several times( a practise not very common) nor had I enjoyed it, if they had known me. I was also there in Company of some English Noblemen that reside in that Country; and brought over with me a Copy of the Earl of A— g's Renounciation of the Protestant Religion, which was writ by Father Hunter's own Hand; and several Presents I had given me, which I dare say the Priests will not deny, tho' our insolent Author questions my being there: From Antwerp I went for liege, but stayed there with Father Sabran, who knew me only 3 Days; and tho' his Reverence thought I was return'd to the Church of Rome again, I convinced him to the contrary, accoring to what I told him plainly was 2 hours before I left that Place. From whence I return'd to Holland, and at the latter end of August I came over for England in the Bridgman Sloop, Capt. Price Commander, who was my former Acquaintance, by the same Token I have not seen him since to pay him for my Passage, in Company of Sir Tho. Smith, Lieutenant Colonel of one of His Majesty's Troops of Horse Guards, the Honourable Col. stanley, one of the Grooms of His Majesty's Bed-Chamber, and the Gentleman who carried over the sad News of the Death of his Highness the Duke of Gloucester; and in the Vessel there was several other Gentlemen that knew me: So I hope this 2d Enquiry is sufficiently answered; and I shall shortly publish the History of my Voyage into Holland and Flanders. And this may serve for the present. Leaving our late Author, I beg leave to inform the Reader, that whereas it is by many confidently affirmed and believed, that I was concerned with one Ro. Young and Blackhead, in a most wicked Design against the Lives and Honours of the Right Reverend the Lord Bishop of Rochester, and other Persons of Quality, I do here affirm, that I never saw the said Young to my knowledge, until after he was committed to the King's-Bench, for that horrid Crime; nor did I ever to my knowledge see Blackhead his Companion: And forasmuch as this Report has been very prejudicial to me, and is groundless and false, I do humbly appeal to the Lord Bishop of Rochester, who I am sure is so just, as to clear me from that Aspersion. And further I offer, that if his Lordship does accuse me of being directly or indirectly concerned with the said Young and Blackhead in their abominable Practices against his Lordship, I will then be content never to speak, or writ more in my own Defence. To conclude all, I am very ready to answer any Objection against me that is reasonable; but I hope it will not diminish the Validity of what I have published, if I for the future stick close to the Matter, and endeavour to bring it to a fair Decision in Parliament, instead of regarding the falsehood and Nonsense of a Parcel of Head-strong Jacobites, ushered abroad by Mr. Roper, to whom as the Law affords, I shall prove a very humble Servant, W. Fuller. Nov. 4. 1700. FINIS.