Mr. William Fuller's THIRD NARRATIVE, CONTAINING New Matters of FACT, Proving the pretended Prince of WALES TO BE A Grand Cheat upon the Nation. WITH An Answer to some Reflections cast upon Him. The whole Written with his own Hand. LONDON, Printed in the Year 1696. THE PREFACE TO THE READER. Tunbridge-Wells August 30 96. COming on Saturday night last, to Bonds-Coffe-house, on the Walks, I met with some Letters, and a Book entitled The truest Account of Mr. Fuller's Discovery of the True Mother of the pretended Prince of Wales, Born June the 10th. 1688. By a Person of Quality. Upon my perusing it, I confess, I could not forbear to pity the vanity of the Author, who has made use of not so much as one true Argument, or substantial Evidence or Circumstance to disprove any particular of my Narrative, which is the business, he but indeed only seems to endeavour. But I neither fear or value what he or any of the late King's Party can say, or do in opposition of what I have writ on this Subject: Such snarling Impudent Liars I presume are no ways extremely serviceable to the late King or his pretended Son's Interest; for their Lies, Perjuries and sham's have been so often detected, from time to time, that they will hardly ever gain any credit from the most rational Men of this Kingdom, until they give us some strong proofs of their Reformation; which this Spark I am sure has not done; and may well be ashamed to discover his name: Certainly he thinks the bare name of Quality has a strong influence on the belief of the People of England; but the Cheat is grown as common with Authors, as Vizard-masks are endeavouring to pass under the same Notion, in a side Box, or middle Gallery. What I have writ in the following Treatise is my own, the Style is mean, which (I hope the Reader will pardon, since the matter is truth, I writ it in haste on Monday morning August the 30th. 1696. without any help, as I can prove by several at the Wells with me. Mr. FULLER'S THIRD NARRATIVE. THis Author first declares, that, whether the Birth of the pretended Prince of Wales were Legitimate, or supposititious, has not been questioned or thought worthy to be examined public by authority, and therefore seems to add, that the Birth must be Legitimate because the present Government has not exposed that vile Imposture: As, I am sure, they justly might; though the Clemency of our present King, and his late Royal Consort of Blessed Memory, (whose goodness, have always been equal to their Royal Births and Greatness) having in this as in many other Cases, been willing to pass by the Greatest Abuses, and Injuries, committed against them; for which their Majesties have been only abused by those they spared; which the Queen was very well assured of, and did once command Mrs. Labaddies Letters, and other Papers relating to this supposititious Birth to be Published: And how little soever this Quality, or rather Billingsgate Writer would make me appear, I shall prove him much in the wrong: and assure him, that this matter concerning Mrs. Mary Grey, has been examined before Great and Lawful Authority; as the Chief Ministers of State of this Kingdom; and the positive and corroborating Proofs of several Persons of Quality and others, have all agreed sufficiently to convince the World of the reality of this Impostor. And that I published it for filthy Lucre, is basely false; for my Printer and Publisher will Depose upon Oath, that I gave the Copy gratis, and would never accept of any Present: No, on the contrary I did it to serve my King and Country, and will maintain so just a Truth to my last breath. Next, he charges me with calling in the assistance of a Poet, to exert so much of his Wit and Eloquence, as might help me to entertain the Multitude with this so diverting a Tragy Comedy (as he calls it) as my Discovery of the Mother, and the Murder of the Mother of the pretended Prince of Wales. I cannot but stand amazed at his Frenzy, or Impudence, to charge me with such a notorious falsity, which is known to be so to the King himself, and several of the Ministers of State, to whom I gave the above mentioned Narrative of the True Mother of the pretended Prince of Wales, as is now Published; and I can produce a hundred Gentlemen to whom I showed the said Narrative, and gave them exact Copies: Soon after my lost coming from France, which was some years before I knew Mr. Settle. And as to the latter part of that Narrative, relating to my own unhappy credulity, occasioned by the immaturity of my Judgement, and the perfidy of Dalleval and Hays, for whose appearance I engaged to the House of Commons, with the relation of what I discovered to the King, concerning several former Designs against his Sacred Person and Government, was all writ by my own Hand at Canterbury; where I exposed it to several the same day I writ it, and I do Declare, that neither Mr. Settle, nor any other Persons gave me any assistance in either of my Books; only the Dedication, which I confess he did; I having not been acquainted with things of that kind: nor should I indeed pretend to Publish any thing but This, which is matter of Fact, and a Truth, which I defy the World to Disprove. As for my Birth, I gave an account of it in my last Book. And if it were not so, certainly this Great Zealot for this shame Prince's Cause, might easily disprove me: Those of his Stamp seldom want Witnesses to Swear at Pleasure: But it is evidently known, that I have had all opportunities of an ingenuous Education; and had once the great Sabran (now Tutor to the pretended Prince) for my Schoolmaster, or Governor. And as for what he mentions pag. 3. of a Plot upon a Worthy and Reverend Prelate of this Kingdom, I cannot imagine; and especially, since he says, And how shamefully and visibly his (meaning myself) veracity came by the Lee, and the lie too, in the Affair: This assurance of his, I look on but as a pure piece of Popish Principles, by which they would yet endeavour, by palpable lies, to support a bad Cause; for I do declare, I never gave any information against any Bishop, but the late Bishop of Ely; only it was my misfortune, to read a Copy of a pretended Address to the French King, which Mr. Hayes carried to the late Queen at St. Germains; to which there was fixed the names of several Bishops and others, whom I always believed knew nothing of it: which I declared to the House, when I presented it, as it was my Duty so to do. Therefore I may justly affirm this Charge as false as his others Next, He tells you, that my Secretary seems to Envy for my sake, that Mr. Pendergrass, Mr. Porter, and Mr. De la Rue, with their Companions, should go away with the whole Glory of the late Discovery, etc. But, for this Conjecture, he can have no more ground, then for the former; but resolves, if possible, to banter such truths, as no honest or Conscientious man can deny: Such were my discoveries, which have been evidently confirmed by the Lord Preston, Mr. Crowe, and others; which, I think, do in no wise lessen the services of the above said Gentlemen, in their Discoveries of the Conspiracies against the King's sacred Person and Government▪ as this Spark would Insinuate, Confidently affirming, That his Majesty, nor the Government, would hardly take notice of my Informations. I think▪ I have in my former sufficiently set forth the Endeavours made use of, to Invallidate me to the King and Parliament, which the World has now found, by experience, was the only means to secure the late King's Friends, and cover their bloody Designs; which from the Year 1689. They have been contriving against the present Government. He now begins to bring together the Testimonies, of several upon Oaths, who, he tells you, unanimously declare the Late Queen to be the true Mother, etc. Which Depositions are already Printed. By these you may see, what pains this Gentleman has taken, to Collect those Depositions; and after a serious view of them, I presume, most will allow his time but wasted: For I cannot find, that any one but the Midwife does affirm, That they saw the Child come from the Queen's Body. But on this subject I will not dispute for modesty sake; Besides, the weakness of those feeble Allegations is a subject that has been often publicly exposed, and that lately too, which this Quality-writer, wisely takes notice of, as being unable to Answer. I shall therefore quit that needless Argument, and proceed to inform you, what I know concerning Mrs. Mary Grey, and which hath already, and will be sufficiently proved, by a great number of Witnesses. First, that the said Mary Grey, with another Gentlewoman, came over from Ireland, both big with Child, with the Lady Tyconel, some short time before the late Queen pretended to be delivered of the supposed Prince of Wales, which was on the tenth of June, near ten in the Morning. Mrs. Marry Grey being several days before Lodged privately in St. James, in the narrow Gallery, which was near the Queen's apartment; It is certain, that on Saturday the 9th of the same June, Mrs. Grey was taken Ill; upon which the Queen came suddenly to St. James; and one Sunday, when her Majesty pretended to be in Labour, Mrs. Grey, until nine the same morning, was heard to Groan, and make faint screeks; and at her ceasing, the Prince was soon Born. After which she continued three weeks at St. James, and was then sent to France, and there Cloistered up in a Convent of the Be●n●dict●●…-Nuns in Paris; where there was a breach in the Garden Walls in Febuary 1689/90. At which time she made her escape; which Alarmed the French King, and the late Queen, and occasioned my being sent in order to embark for England to get her dispatched, at her Landing there; and that she was carried to St. Germains to the late Queen, after her being taken in Paris, and also to the French King at Merli, I do affirm to be truth; nor could the French Court at this time so cunningly disguise the Consternation they were under, but it took breath: And would our Malcontents, who are lately come from France, speak truth; I am sure they cannot but Remember part of what I relate: However I don't question, but this matter will be plainly made out, to the satisfaction of all Europe, very suddenly, by a sufficient Number of Witnesses. Now, to return to the other objections against me, alleged by this malicious Gentleman, who tells you, I have been confessed guilty of Ingratitude to my best Friends and pretended Relations, and have been openly Convinced of most Villainous and Malicious Forgery, against a Reverend Bishop; and of a wicked design against the whole Church of England. To these I Answer, and appeal to any moderate Judicious, and Christian tempered Reader, that my Duty to my Country ought to be valued above any private Interest, or Friend. And I must confess, I have always had the greatest value and respect for the Persons of my Friends at St. Germains: But the Barbarity of the Intrigues they had employed me in, gave me sufficient cause to leave their service, in order to prevent the effusion of my Countries blood, and the Ruin of the Liberties of England, by bringing it under a French power; which looked very dangerously at the time of my coming over: For the full Relation of which, I refer my Reader to my other Books; only I beg leave to inform you, that I did not leave the late King and Queen's terms, without sufficient cause, and a serious consideration; I mean, in regard to the public good for which I have suffered, and glory in my wrongs. But as for any Forgery committed by me against a Bishop, I stand amazed that a Person of Quality should persist in so known a Lye. I have heard, I confess, of some such Villainy committed against the Bishop of Ro●chester; but sure I am, that his Lordship, had never any Reason in the least to suspect me concerned; besides the Persons were convicted; and I never till now was charged with such a crime. And he would insinuate, that I designed against the whole Church of England, etc. Certainly this Author knows me not; for I presume most that do, can answer, That I profess myself, though unworthy, a Member of that Church; To which I was brought over, and convinced of the Errors of the Church of Rome, by the late Lord Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr. Tillotson. He continues to repeat my misfortune before the House of Commons, and is hardly put to his shifts for Arguments against me, to invalidate my Testimony, and cover the cunning management of the Impostor-Prince, which will be made Good by no less Number of prevailing Witnesses than his mighty Troop of Thirty Seven: For Truth, though oppressed and stifled for a time, Will at last break forth, and maintain its Property against all such scribbling lying Opposers, as this Gentleman has exposed himself to be. He would reflect on the Papers and Letters which I purpose suddenly to Publish; but neither himself nor Party will have much cause; for they shall have them as soon as the Parliament sits, and which had e'er this been published; only the extraordinary consequence of them will, I hope, at that time, be more serviceable to the true Interest of the present Government. I must confess, I cannot positively affirm, that Mrs. Mary Grey was murdered; but after what I had seen and heard from the late Queens, Mrs. Grey and Fa. Sabran's own mouths, and missing her from the time of Conveying her from the French King's back stairs, I had sufficient reasons, and did really believe she was murdered. He adds, That any Man, that has not a very strong Faith, would Hardly believe (without very good proof) the escape of such a poor Woman should so mightily Alarm the French King and late Queen; when her escape could have done them little harm; since it had been more Innocent for them to pretend, that whatever the woman, when in England, declared, she was hired, and words put into her mouth, by King William and his Agents, etc. To this I answer, and it is known to most in Europe; that the French King is the most unfit person to impose such an untruth on the World: For his gallic Majesty very well knows▪ that had Mrs. Grey come over to England, and declared this matter, all his Declarations, or charges against her, would have signified but little: For the many false Impositions of the French King, and his abdicated Brother, are too well known, for any to trust, or believe them for the future, without good security. And on the other hand, all must allow King William never gave encouragement to Villainies, nor false Imputations, to support his cause or Interest in any kind; His Throne is Established on the Basis, of true Justice and Virtue. This Author adds, There was no need of the French Kings being there at the personal Examination, of Mrs. Grey; and says, It was below him; nay it was none of his concern; but the late King and Queens, etc. But in this, as in other cases, he shows his Vanity, in opposing truths; and sure he must wilfully forget, that King James was at this time in Ireland, which almost every one knows: And the late Queen never did any business of concern, without consulting the French King; to whom, at this time, she was in a more special manner obliged to apply herself for his assistance; fearing without it, it might prove Impossible for her to be any longer secured from being exposed, in this her Masterpiece of Intriegue on which all her hopes, and even those of the late King's success depended. As for their confining Mrs. Grey in some remote Convent, as tHat of Oublies, etc. If ever the late Queen or French King had any such thoughts, it must needs be stifled by the late Queens extraordinary Consternation, which she had not then recovered: But, as in the case of the Duke of Monmouth, nothing but blood could satisfy her: besides as their might happen a breach in those Garden Walls too, or some other Contrivance, which might afford Mrs. Grey a second opportunity of Leaving them, her Death was therefore undoubtedly thought most secure, and might easily be practised where 'tis not thought so great a sin, but may be absolved, especially in so important a Cause. This Gentleman now falls hard on Mr. Settle, for assisting me; which, God knows, he did not; for I have no need of help in a Relation of a Matter, where I was so nearly concerned; And as for his Advice, When he writs next for me, etc. I do tell him, That, as in the two former Treatises, so in This, I have writ nothing but what is true, and what I will maintain against all Opposers whatever; of which I will give the World a further Proof, as soon as my business will permit me: And, by reason I never heard of any Bishop, that writ against me, I have no occasion to trouble my Self with the matter: And, as for that of the House of Commons, I hope to have a just Hearing; and am contented, that my Life should lie at stake, in case I prove not what I have writ, or said in This, or Others, in my just Defence. Having thus answered all the Objections of this malicious Author against me, I now proceed to solve some other Queries, which have been spread abroad by other Malcontents; who knowing their Instability, only Mole-like, work under Ground, and try all Shifts and Arts to Trap me: One of these is Mr. S—, a Zealous Roman Catholi●k, who was in France sometime, though now obliged to return for Bread, and sets up for an Opposer of my Narrative; laying hold of an Error in my first Book, committed by the Printer, viz. in these words, I Embarked with the late Queen, her pretended Son, etc. from White-Hall; whereas, in my Original, the words were, That I Embarked in the same Barge which carried the Queen; and the next Day following, we arrived at Callais, in a Yatch: I confess, I should at first have enlarged on the full Account of this Matter; but that I thought it might be too tedious for to trouble my Reader with, by reason so many have writ formerly on the same Subject Next, it is alleged by some, who are either wilfully ignorant, or malicious in their Reports, That I never was Page of Honour to the late Queen, etc. I confess, it was in France: But if the Testimony, or Confession of one upon his Trial, for his Life and Death, may be credited▪ I hope, Mr. Crone's words may; which were on his Trial these, viz. I confess, I was in France, and introduced to the Queen by Mr. Fuller, her Majesty's Page, that was in waiting, when I came to St. Germains: To which he adds, (and just before his Condemnation) That, had he but known on what Account I was in France, when he was with me, he would have used me as I had done him. Thus far his Irish Assurance prompted him to Express his Zeal for King James' Cause, even when he was found Guilty of High Treason; for which he was Condemned at the Old Bailie, and Reprieved from time to time, which he obtained by repeated Promises of making a full and ingenuous Confession of what he knew to the Government; which he performed, after having had Twenty Four Reprieves from the King and Queen; upon which he was Pardoned, and set at Liberty; and Orders were given for the Indictments to be drawn up against such as the said Crone, in his Confession, had Discovered; as also, against those, to whom, with him, I brought Commissions, and Instructions from the late King and Queen, and the French King, for the furthering the Designs, then on Foot, to Kill King William, and His Royal Consort Queen Mary, and to seize them Dead or Alive; with private Instructions, to secure, in the like manner, Alive or Dead, all Lords and Others, which should oppose King James' Interest, or the Authority of those to whom he had given Commission, under his Broad Seal, bearing Date at Dublin, to Act for him as Deputies, or Lords Justices of England. Concerning this, I cannot forbear to acquaint my Reader; That these Lords, trusted in so great a Concern, were appointed by the French King: For a Commission of this kind, was sent over from Dublin to St. Germains in January, 1690. But the French King, being displeased with some Persons that King James had Authorized, sent it immediately back to him by an Express, to notify his dislike; wh●ch King James did not Dispute; but instantly dispatched the Lord Thomas Howard to the French King, upon the adjusting of that Matter: And, on his Voyage, that unhappy and ingenious Lord had the misfortune to be Cast away; and his Fate not being known in some time, occasioned a tedious delay, in this Matter: But the French King, recommending such Persons as he thought fit for this weighty Affair, sent his Opinion, or rather Command, to King James; and so instantly passed a new Commission, as the French King Nominated. To this Affair I was Privy, as being sent by Monsieur Lovie, (recommended by the Queen) to King James in Ireland; where I stayed until the News was Confirmed of my Lord Thomas Howard's hard Fate: Upon which I returned from King James at Dublin, to France, with a Gentleman, who brought the last Commission to the French Court; with which Mr. Crone, and myself, was dispatched for England, with several other Commissions, as soon as the French Court had News, that their Fleet was ready to Sail, in the Year 1690. being the time King James' Party had procured so great an Interest and Provision, in England, in order to assist a French Army: The Services I performed for the present Government, on this occasion, I need not mention; since the King, in part, was Graciously pleased to declare it to the Parliament; immediately after my Coming from France. I having writ this former Narrative at Tunbridge-Wells, and coming Post to Town the Day following, in order to Publish it, a Friend of mine brought me a few Lines, which he tells me, were writ by an Eminent Citizen, and one of the Gentlemen, that was of Mr. Crone's Jury: The words as I have them fairly written, are as followeth, viz. SIR, WHat I Urged relating to Mr. Fuller, was this viz. That Mr. Crone, in his own Defence Alleged, That he was employed by the late Queen to raise such Sums of Money, as Mr. Fuller charged upon him; but not for carrying on the War, only for the Queen's Debts, and a Natural Child of the Abdicated King 's, etc. To support the Allegation, be earnestly desired a Lady might be called, who produced a Letter in Court, importing, that Mr. Crone was entrusted to raise such Sums, etc. One of the Judges ask, Who wrote the Letter? Mr. Crone answered, My Solicitor, my Lord; which startled the Solicitor, who said to Crone, Plague Damn you, and so with drew himself. Crone's Answer was pretermitted by another Judge's ask the Lady, How long long she had had the Letter? etc. SIR, Myself, with several others of the Jury, heard Mr. Crone's Answer, which absolutely Establishes the whole Truth of what Mr. Fuller charged Mr. Crone withal, ab Origine; because Mr. Crone, on his Trial, Defended himself by a Fictitious Allegation; and proved it to be such, by the prementioned Forged Letter, which Demonstrates to impartial Persons, that Mr. Crone offered nothing towards invalidating Mr. Fuller's Evidence, but Fiction and Forgery. I shall Conclude this Narrative with the Observations this Gentleman makes, That Crone endeavoured to invalidate me, by the basest and vilest means, which the Devil or Malice could invent; and such has been the restless Endeavours of the late King's party, ever since; and particularly, the practice of this late Author; whom I advise, in return of his Kindness to Me, to be better informed, before he pretends to write again FINIS. Advertisement. THese Two Books following, were Written and Published by Mr. WILLIAM FULLER, (Page of Honour to the late Queen in France) Author of this Book, viz. I. A Brief Discovery of the True Mother of the Pretended Prince of Wales, known by the Name of Mary Grey. To which is Added, A further Discovery of the late Conspiracy against His Majesty's Sacred Person, and Government, etc. As laid before the King etc. and Deposed to a Committee of Parliament. By WILLIAM FULLER, Gent. sometimes Page of Honour to the late Queen in France. Price, Six Pence. II. A Further Confirmation, That Mary Grey was the True Mother of the Pretended Prince of Wales. Together, with an Account of the Private Messages, and Letters, sent by the French King, King James, the late Queen, and other Persons of Quality, to their Agents in England. Published by WILLIAM FULLER, Gent. who was privy to whole Management. To which is added, the Author's Vindication of Himself, from the Malcontents of this Kingdom. 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