A LETTER FROM A DISSENTER TO THE DIVINES OF THE CHURCH OF ENGLAND IN ORDER TO AN UNION reprinted at Holy-Rood-House, 1687. THIS is to let you know, Reverend Sirs, how sensible I and our Brethren are of the great Change we perceive in your Pulpits: that whereas sometime since, nothing was heard from thence but Thunder against Dissenters, with the terrible Noise of their Spirit of Obstinacy and Disobedience, of Rebellion the Sin of Witchcraft, of their being Schismatics against the True Church; and that nothing was so proper to reduce them in a Christian Temper and within the Pale, as the severe Execution of the Laws, as Summoning to the Commons, Seizing and Imprisoning, etc. Now all the Storm is cleared up into a perfect Calm, and instead of Force and Rigour, we hear nothing now but of Fair Invitations, and most Obliging Calls to a Peaceable Union; there being now no Difference to be heard of betwixt us, but only of a Few Indifferant Cermonies, and that otherwise We are all Joint- Members with You of the same Church, This Change, I say; We are all very Sensible of, And as for a Union and a good Correspondence, you may be assured, we are so in love with Union and Peace, that we could hearty wish, to see all Christians at this day, as they were in the time of the Apostles, of One Spirit, and of One Mind. But you know what has hindered us hitherto from Joining with Your Church; We have always suspected You for Papists in Masquerade; The many Ceremonies You have retained, Your Crosses, and Altars, and Tapers, and Surplices, and Bowings; Your Confessions and Absolutions, and Mass Forms of Prayer, etc. have obliged us to these Thoughts; and that tho' you pretend to have left Babylon, yet by the Rags and Livery you brought along with you we could not but still suspect of her Retinue. Of late indeed you have given us some Reason to change our Opinion; whilst Popery making some approaches to you, and even standing at your Doors, you have given her such Sour Entertainment and treated with so much Severity, as if in reality you had no Kindness for her. This, I say, is some Motive to us, to change our former Opinion of you, And yet on the other hand, I see so many Deceits in Villainous Man, that I cannot tell how, but to be Jeallous still. I fear Your Religion, may, like the Wether, have its different Seasons and Returns. And as sometimes the Dissenters from the Influence of your Church, he under a severe and nipping Winter, and at other times again enjoy a warm and inviting Sunshine so you may be as changeable in respect of the Papists too, sometimes for 'em and sometimes against 'em; and yet be the same old Church of England still, like the Sun, which maketh different Seasons and Changes in the Year, yet never changes itself. And this Consideration does not leave me without some Fears and Jealousies. I apprehend you have a way of promoting Popery, and yet being against the Papists; and that if we join with you, we may be instructed in real Popery, whilst we are taught to hate the Papists; and if so, I do not see, but it would be the same thing to join with the Papists, as with you. This Jealousy of mine has been strengthened of late by some of your Writings, and most especially by one, which appeared lately, Entitled, An answer to the Compiler of the Nubes Testium, wherein the Author, whilst he severely lets fly against the Papists, does at the same time maintain and propagate such Doctrines, as I have ever looked upon, as the very Essence and Groundwork of Popery. You'll give me leave to make a short List of such as I have observed in the perusing that Book; and than if you will give me your Opinion and let me know, whether really they are conformable to the Doctrine of your Church, 'twill serve as a Light to direct us, what to do, whilst you invite us to join Communion with you. First then he says, (p. 8.) That he can grant, that the Bishop of Rome is the Successor of St. Peter. 2. That that See is the Centre of the Catholic Communion, while possessed by an Orthodox Bishop. 3. That whosoever Separates himself from it professing the true Faith, and possessed by a Catholic Bishop, is guilty of Schism, (p. 37.) 4. He doubts whether there be really any controversy about Tradition, betwixt the Church of Rome and the Church of England 5. That the Tradition of the Catholic Church is to be received. 6. That by Tradition we receive the Holy Scriptures. and know how to separate the Scriptures from Apocryphal or Suppositious Writings. 7. That he is willing and ready to receive any Doctrine not Written, that hath as perpetual, unanimous, and certain a Tradition as the Scripture; and that he only waits for the proving this, and then he is to embrace all the Doctrines of Popery, (p 38,) 8. That there is no necessity of express Scripture for the Constitutions and Practices, which his Church enjoins, in order to the more regular and decent service of God, (p. 41.) 9 That the Tradition of Antiquity is highly useful and necessary for the Interpretation of Points of Faith, (p. 48,) 10. That he honours the Saints, in observing Days in honour of them: And seems to grant all that is produced in Nubes Testium upon that Subject, viz. In visiting Churches in honour of the Saints, whose-Memory is there preserved; in assembling together in honour of the Saints, and Celebrating their Memory with a Religious Solemnity, so to be partakers of their Merits. 11. That it is generally piously believed, that the glorified Saints do Intercede for the Church Militant, (p. 49.) 12. That the honour which in the Primative Times was paid to the Memories of Saints, and nothing but what was highly just, and that herein they are Imitated by us, says he, as well as by any other Christians, (p. 50.) 13. That the Fathers kept the Relics of Saints with Respect and Veneration, and believed that God often wrought Miracles by them and they might do it too, says this Author, (p. 51.) 14. That the Fathers practised praying for the Dead; and owned it as as advantageous to the Souls departed: Every word of which we freely grant, says this Author, (p. 53.) That the Fathers in the first Ages used Oblations and Prayers for the Dead, no body denies, says he, We do confess withal, that these Prayers were offered up also for pardon of Sins, (p. 65.) 15. That it is the Opinion of his Church, that Christ's Body is really present in the Eucharist, (p. 66.) 16. That that consecrated Food is the Flesh and Blood of Jesus Christ. These are some of the Points, which I observed in reading that Book; and here for a better understanding, I desire to know of you, Whether these are truly and really your Doctrine. The Book I see, has the Standard Mark; 'tis Licenced by the Archbishop of Canterbury's Chaplain; and so must be supposed to contain nothing, but what is agreeable to your Church. And if so, how can we choose but be Jealous of your Calls to Union, and fair Invitations, whilst we see you holding our Reformation in one Hand, and so much Popery in the other? What means your so good Opinion of the Pope, of Tradition, of honouring the Saints; of their Intercession for us; of honouring their Memories or Monuments; of owing a Respect and Veneration due to the Relics; of allowing Prayers for the Souls departed, as advantageous to them, and for the Pardon of their Sins; of believing Christ's Body to be really present in the Sacrament, and that it is his Flesh and Blood? What means, I say, all this? is this the Doctrine of your Church, to which you invite us to join? If it be, I must tell you plainly, You are the Men, I always took you to be, if not Papists altogether; at the best, but like those imperfect Animals of Egypt, which beginning to leave out of Mother-dirt, are left unfinished, and in Colour, and Scent and the greatest part are nothing but Mother-dirt still; and into it do naturally return. For my part if I could come so near Popery as this; I should make no difficulty of taking tother Step. For 'tis thither all this does naturally tend. What we desire therefore is, That in all your Exhortations to Union, you would suppose us to be rational Men, and not willing to do any thing; till we see and know what it is we are to do, If you would have us Unite, let us know, to what we are to unite; give us a Scheme of your Doctrines, of your Practices, to which you expect our Submission and Assent. And when we have this before us, upon Consideration, we shall be better able to know what to do. And particularly, as to the points above, if they be according to your Church, tell us so: if they be not, be plain with us, and condemn them. Who knows but the Author of these Positions may be some Jesuit in Disguise, who under a Feigned Show of defeating Popery, designs nothing more than to promote it? One other Point I desire you to add to these, which is that mentioned by Dr. Tillot son, in his Sermon at Whitehal, April 4. 1679. p. 17. Where he says, That Private Persons in understanding obscure Texts of Scripture, and the more difficult points in Religion, must rely upon their Guides: Because in these Cases, says he, every Man is not capable of judging himself, and therefore he must necessarily trust others: and likewise submit to what is determined and established by public consent and Authority, unless upon clear Evidence of the Falsehood or Unlawfulness of it: And in Case Men be perverse and Disobedient, Authority is Judge, and may restrain and punish them. To this Point I desire you to speak clear and plain, that so if we come to you, we may know, whether in any Points of Religion, we must necessarily go blindfold, and rely upon others And that if we cannot submit to all that is determined by your Authority, we must be unavoidably restrained and punished. This point is of some concern, because this trusting to others Judgement in Matters of Doctrine, joined with that of Tradition , which authorises Constitutions and Practices without any Authority of the written Word; we can easily foresee, whither they lead; what is there that may not be imposed upon us, upon these Principles; Whilst we in the mean time, must be obliged either to submit, or else be punished as perverse and disobedient? Be positive in laying open these things to us: Let us know, which are the Difficult Points, which we must necessarily trust to others, and how many they are; that so we may know the End of our Belief. We desire Satisfaction in these Particulars, and when that is done, we shall know better how to follow your Calls. You'll pardon this Importunity, and in a Friendly Answer consider our Circumstances; make things as favourable as you can; and above all things remember, That to hear little of Trusting, and less of Punishing, will be most acceptable to, Reverend Sirs, Yours. FINIS.