TO THE POPE, And All His Cardinals, Bishops, Jesuits, Monks, and Friars, with all the rest of his People; Who are Reprobates concerning the Faith of Christ, Gospel-Order, and true Religion: And also the Papists proved to be a Seditious Sect. BEING Something in Answer to Aeneas Mach. Gilmury, and Mauritius Bern; who call themselves Students of Art. J. L. J. S. Evil Men and Seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived, 2 Tim. 3.13. As Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these resist the Truth, Men of corrupt Minds, Reprobates concerning the Faith, 2 Tim. 3.8. God shall send them strong Delusions, that they should believe a Lie, that they all might be damned, who believe not the Truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness, 2 Thes. 2.11, 12. Printed in the Year, 1671. To the POPE, and all his Cardinals, Bishops, Jesuits, Monks and Friars, with all the rest of his People. I Have received a Paper, subscribed by Aeneas M. Gillmury and Mauritius Bern, who call themselves Students of Arts, and both Professors of the Apostolical, and Roman Catholic Church; which is a pretended Answer to John Stubbs, and James Lancaster, their Queries and Challenges, they sent to the Papists, and the Pope, and his Cardinals and Jesuits, etc. But all people may see that this is not an Answer, but instead of answering, they beg the Question; and fall a railing, and sometimes Daub and Flatter, thinking by their daubing and flattering to put out the Eyes of their simple deluded people. And these two Papists seem to be much grieved, because our Challenge is directed to the Pope, and his Cardinals, and Jesuits: They find fault with our Long-windedness, or sounding a Trumpet as a Horn; which well we may do, to alarum the Pope, his Jesuits, and Cardinals: For we must tell them, that we have the Breath of the Almighty (which will reach to Rome) by which we come to be living Souls. And did not the Jesuits and Priests say in Ireland, that they had no Licence from the Pope to answer us; and now we have alarmed the Pope, and Cardinals, and Friars, and Jesuits; it is well that he doth confess this is Long-windedness, over their muddy breath. And now they tell us, that they can answer at Home, and that we need not send to the Pope; but no Answer to our Challenge, as the Reader of our Challenge and this Paper, may see that their Mouths are stopped, and that they cannot maintain their own corrupt Principle, nor seditious Sect. And as for your saying, that you are both Professors of the Roman-Catholique Church, this is false; for the Roman-Catholique Church, as it was in the Apostles days, you are degenerated from, and are come to be a Seditious Sect, and do spread your Heretical Opinions from your Heresies, which you have at Rome; and are a Schism and Schismatical, rend from the Catholic Church of Rome, as it was in the Apostles Days (for Catholic we do understand is Universal) and are erred from that Universal Power, and Faith, and Gospel, and Spirit, that the Apostles were in, you are erred from; as easy is to be proved. 1st, You the Church of Rome are a Seditious Sect, with all her company; and you are found in Herod, a Persecutor; you are found in Nebuchadnezar, a Burner, by your Fires; you are found in Judas, with your Swords and Staves against the Just; you are found in Cain, with your Envy against the second Birth Abel; you are found in Ishmael, Scoffing at Isaac; you are found to be the Beast and the Whore drinking of the Blood of the Saints, that receive not your Mark; So Killing, Burning, Hanging, Racking, Torturing, and Imprisoning; this hath been the work of the Church of Rome, who is a Seditious Sect, who are the Traitors, Heady, , Selfwilled, Lovers of Pleasures more than Lovers of God: For look upon your proud Prelates, Cardinals, Jesuits, Pope, with all his gorgeous Robes, these are the Wicked Arts, which you have invented, and are Masters of: So its clear, that all these Works be the Works of the flesh, and of the Devil, that bloody wicked Persecutor, and not of the Birth born of the Spirit. 2dly, So I say, Here it's clear you are a Seditious Sect, erred from the Faith that works by Love; for if you were in that Catholic Faith, which belongs to the Catholic Church, which is universal, you would not tell People of a Purgatory when they are dead, for which you have no Scripture; we Challenge you to bring a Scripture for it, out of your own Bibles, or Protestants either. And so it is clear here by the second Proof, you are erred from the Faith that works by Love, that purifies the heart, that gives Victory and Access to God, by which Faith men please God, which is the Faith of God's Elect; from this Faith, which is Catholic, from which the Church of Rome, with his Company are erred, and are found in the Enmity, Madness, Folly, and Persecution, who are Synagogues of Satan, that Murderer, whose works ye have done, and are void of the Faith that works by love, and purifies the heart; therefore you must have a Purgatery as you say. 3dly, You are a Seditious Sect; for you have transgressed the Command of Christ Jesus, who saith, Love one another, Love Enemies; and if any go from you, you will hate them, you will kill them; and if others will not join to you, you will burn them and destroy them; this is the work of a seditious Sect, and Hammon like, that informed against the Jews, that did not follow the National way; and like those that informed against Daniel: And so it is clear that you are a seditious Sect, erred from the Command of Christ Jesus, and cast it behind your Backs. 4thly, You are a Company of Liars, and a Seditious Sect; for how can you love God, whom you never see, and hate your Brethren, whom you see daily? 5thly, You are in the death of old Adam, and in the power of death the Serpent, who love not your Brother; he that hateth his Brother abideth in Death. 6thly, You are a Seditious Sect; for you have persecuted people about Meats, Drinks, , and outward Crosses, your Crucifixes, your Bread, and Wine, and Holidays, your eating of Flesh, and Fish, and Marriages, which the Kingdom of God stands not in; not Meats, nor Drinks, nor Days; but in Righteousness, in Peace, and Joy in the Holy Ghost; and so out of the Power of God, our of this Righteousness, are you all a sedititiou● Sect, and are found in those things the Kingdom of God stands not in, and Persecuting and Murdering such as will not observe your wills: like to the Beast spoken of in the Revelation, that with his Paw would pluck all under him; and like the Dragon, his Wrath is found in you against the true Woman, the Church; and they that have followed your Worship, have followed the Dragon's worship, and the Beast, and have not followed Christ Jesus, nor the true Catholique Church. 7thly, You are a Seditious Sect, that teach the Doctrine of Devils forbidding Meats, and to Marry, 1 Tim. 4. which the Spirit did say expressly should come in the last times; who speak Lies in Hypocrisy, having you Consciences seared, as with a hot-Iron, that you a●e hardened in your Wickedness, Seducing Spirits, Doctrine of Devils: For Moses was a Priest, and Aaron was a Priest, and were Married; and the Prophets and Apostles had Wives; and Marriage was Go●s Ordinance; and Christ established it in the new Covenant, wherein he saith, Whom God joins together let no man put asunder: So here it is clear, Christ the Highpriest, made higher than the Heavens, confirms God's Work, which is Marriage, being his joining; and therefore do not you give liberty to Brothel-Houses, and Baudy-Houses, and Uncleanness? And then you have need of a Purgatory. 8thly; You are a Seditious Sect; for you have erred from the Cross of Christ, which is the Power of God, and therefore have you set up Wooden Crosses, and Stone, and Brass, and Silver, and Gold: And how many Hundred Years after Christ were those outward Crosses invented? And where did ever Paul, or Peter, or any of the Apostles set up a Wooden Cross? And speak if you dare: Let us see your Antiquity: And how many Hundred Years after Christ, got up that Seditious Sect, forbidding Priests to Marry, and setting up places to put Women in, and vowed them, and swore them to Chastity? And how many Hundred Years after Christ was it before they made a God, and a Christ, of Bread and Wine? Come out of your Holes and Dens, and answer us in the Light, if you dare? And try your God and your Christ, that you have made of Bread and Wine: See if you will be as Bold as Baal's Priests; for they tried their god before the Prophet: Come, let us see what this seditious Sect can do with all their Arts; Can you make him Speak? Is he a Living God, that will not be found Asleep? And will not your Gods grow Corrupt, and Mouldy? And is it not a Work of man's hands, which you call people to Worship? Yea, your Fists of Wickedness, and Bloody Hands, which have been embrued and washed in the Blood of the Innocent; with those hands have you not made your God, and Christ, of your Bread and Wine? And therefore I say, come out and try them, & we will have a Bottle of Wine, and a Loaf of Bread, and it shall be cut in two pieces, and the Wine in two Basins; and let the Pope, and his Cardinals, and Friars, and Munks, with all their Bloody Fists make a God of part of the Wine, and part of the Bread, and when they have done, we will set them in a Cellar with part of the Wine and part of the Bread, which is not consecrated, and we shall try quickly whether their God will not Mould, and their Christ will not Die, that is consecrated; and their consecrated Wine grow sour and die: Come, shuffle us not off; for we will have them locked up in a Cellar with six or seven Locks, and have a Watch on our side, and another on yours, and try if your God and your Christ, that is made of Bread and Wine do not Corrupt, and do not grow Mouldy; and your Wine doth not grow Sower and Dye; then we will all turn to you, and say, that you have made a God and Christ by your Art; and than if your God and your Christ, you have made of your Bread and Wine▪ do grow Mouldy, and the Wine Dye and Sower; your Bread Mouldy that you have consecrated, you shall all turn to us, and acknowledge yourselves to be a seditious Sect, that have been Deceivers of the people this thousand Years. We do challenge you, & dare you, the Pope, & his Cardinals, and Jesuits, to come forth, and try, and bring your God out; all you God-makers', and Christ-makers' of the Pope's Crew and Company, the Lord calls for you to come out of your Holts, who have been a company of Bloodthirsty men, who have mingled your invented and idolatrous Sacrifices with the Blood of the Innocent, Pilate like; a seditious Sect, erred from the words of God, and from Christ Jesus the Head of the Church; and therefore you have invented a Head, a counterfeit Head of your own making, which is not a Catholic Head, but a Seditious Head, full of Sedition, which fills the Body to the brim; you are full of Hypocrisy to the very brim; and full of Envy and Blood-thirstiness to the brim; and full of Murder to the very brim; your Actions, your Do, your Works, your Fruits speak it, and declare it to all Nations about you. But Christ Jesus, he is the Head, the Cathelique Head, the Universal Head; the Catholic Church is Living Members made, and of Living Stones a spiritual Household sanctified by him, and washed, and purged, and cleansed by the Living Head, Christ Jesus, who is the same to day, yesterday, and forever. 9thly, You are a Seditious Sect; as erred from the Power, from the Spirit of the Apostles, and Christ Jesus; and from the Righteousness, the fine Linen, which is the Righteousness, of the Saints, and of Christ Jesus; and therefore you have set up your Surplices, and your white Coats, who have lost your fine Linen, which is the Righteousness of Christ Jesus, and are more like Actors of Stage-Plays, and M●un●ebancks, (than Preachers of the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ ●n all your Fools-Coats, and the Pope and his Cardinal's Fools-caps, Keys, and Crowns: Where do you read in the Scripture, or new Testament, of Master Paul, or Mr. Peter, or Mr. Timothy, or Mr. Titus, or Mr. Matthew, or Luke, etc. or my Lord Timothy, or my Lord Titus, or Peter, or my Lord Bishops; we challenge you to make this good out of your own Scripture; let us see some proof for your Ambition, and Pride, who are puffed up with Titles, and take the Titles that belong to God Almighty to yourselves, contrary to Elihu, who said, If I give flattering Titles to men my Maker would not regard me; and contrary to Christ Jesus, and in despite of Christ Jesus, who saith, You have one Master, and you are his Brethren. It is very clear that you are a Seditious Sect and Schism, and are rend from the Body and the Head both; and therefore you are a Seditious Body: It is you which make so many heads and christs, and then say, Lo christ is here, and lo he is there; and your Seditious people run to christ-makers', and god-makers', or your idol-makers'. Indeed the Heathen Priests made gods, which were no Gods; and therefore in Spain, and France, and Rome, and Ireland, and Portugal, and other places, how many gods have you. And how many christs have you made in all these parts, and christ-makers? And then he is here, and there, Lo here, and Lo there, Antichrist against Christ: We know that the Devil will rage's at this: And how much Blood have you shed (number up the Persons) because they will not eat your gods, and your christs, that you have made, and Worship it? And is not this worse than the Heathen? Did the Heathen eat their gods when they had made them? So it is clear, that you are erred from the Catholic Cross, which is the Power of God; from the Catholic Faith, that works by Love; from the Catholic Head, Christ Jesus: from the Catholic Church, the Body of Christ Jesus; and cannot maintain your rudiments, nor your christ that you have made, to the Apostles days; for did they set up any such thing? Your doctrine concerning Purgatory, Meats, Drinks, Holidays, Lent, nor your ; nor your Bell Book and Candle; nor your Pope's Head of the Church; none of these things can you maintain; nor your Persecuting about Religion, nor your Mass-mongrey-Stuff, nor your several Orders, nor your Triple-Crowns, nor your Nunneries, nor your Crucifixes, nor your forbidding to Marry, not your Schools of Arts to make Ministers; none of all these things can you make good, that they were acted or practised by the Apostles, or that they did persecute any people about outward things. 10thly, You are a Seditious Sect, and have left the Commands of Christ Jesus, who saith, Freely you have received, and Freely give, therefore you who have set up both Easter-reckoning, and Midsummer-Dues, and Tithes, are a Sect that serve yourselves, and not Christ Jesus; that mind Earthly things, and are Enemies to the Cross of Christ; and are gone in the way of Cain, to Envy; Gainsaying, Carah, against the true Church, and its practice, and run after the Error of Balaam for Gifts and Rewards, the Wages of Unrighteousness, Unrighteous Wages; and like to Flimas' the Sorcerer; who seek to turn People from the Catholic Faith, that works by Love, whose Eyes are blind, groping up and down in your Rudiments, and among your Idols, and Inventions of your Forefathers, who erred from the true Church: And as for the Pelagian-Heresie, look at home, you Papists: and as for the Arians, you may look at home; for we are none of that spirit: Whereas thou givest us a Catalogue of some that did succeed Peter at Rome, or Paul; but thou dost not tell us of Pope Joan, and make a Catalogue of her that had a Bastard; nor thou dost not tell us of the Bishop of Rome, whom thou callest Pope, that sacrificed to the Heathen gods, and denied Christ: What will you say that these were Rebellious Actions? And thou dost not tell us of Boniface the third, set up by Phocas, that murdered his Master Mauritius about six hundred years after Christ, then began your firs● general Pope: and you may say, if you should do so, Satan would be divided against Satan, and so could not stand. You are far from giving freely, who have set up so many Glebeland, and Tithes, and I aster-reckoning, and fat Parsonages, that you might live in the Glory of the World, not like a suffering Seed, but that you are Enemies to the suffering Seed. 11thly, You are a Seditious Sect, you have cast the Royal Law of God behind your backs, which teacheth to do unto others as you would others should do unto you; for would you have others to Burn you, to Hang you, to Imprison you, because that you do not conform to their Way or Religion: Would you have the Turks, and Tartars, and Protestants, and Jews, to Rack and Torture, and make Inquisitians for you, and Burn you, and Hang you, because that you do not conform to their Religion, Blind the Royal Law of God, To do to others as you would have them to do unto you: Speak plainly if you can or date; or is Ishmael that S●●ff●r, Cain the first Persecutor of his Brother, Nebuchadnezar, and Hammon, and the Murdering Jews and the Devil, the Dragon, become Christians? Are not you sound in this nature to the brim? And was this divine? Cain was a mighty man in Arts, as high as you; and so was Nimrod in his Building, but God confounded him, and his Works, and so he will do yours; it is all under the Chain together, with the Workmen: And are not you more like to the proud Pharisees, with their long Robes, that love to be called of men Master, and the Gentiles Gracious Lords, who loved the Praise of men, and Honour one of another; a Mark of no Believer: Is not this Ti●le, and these things, forbidden by Christ Jesus? See John 5. But I must tell you, in your Catalogue you say that many did succeed Peter: Where do you read, that in all his time he was called Gracious Lord, or Pope; or that Timothy, or Titus, or any other, that he was set up above another, by the Apostles: Did not Paul reprove Peter for some things: This makes nothing for the Pope (the Catalogue you have brought) neither doth it suit the matter; for your whole Church, as you call it, together with your Head the Pope, is judged by Christ, and the Apostles, and the primitive Church; and therefore because that you have lost the Key of David, and Tongue of the Learned, the Pope must have the outward Key, and you must have the Tongues that begin at Babel, which your Brother Pilate set on the top of Christ when he Crucified him; and therefore must study Arts, and so Tubal Cain; and this proves you a Seditious Sect, and have lost the Crown of Life, and therefore he must set up 3. Crowns on his head, a Triple-crown; this becomes the old Fool, that is erred from the Spirit that maketh wise, and gives understanding he is far short of them that said, An outward Crown did not become a Preacher of the Gospel: Let him look the History, and see if he can sinned such a one in the Church-History, before the Pope was: But his Head must be beyond Nebuchadnezars' Head of Gold; for he sets a Tripple-crown upon h●s bead: But there is a Stone cut out of the Mountain without hands, that will dash his Head of Gold to pieces, with his Crown. So it is not the handy works of men's hands, make them never so strong, that will stand before this Stone: Glory to God in the highest forever. And this Stone will become a great Mountain, and fill the whole Earth; it is increasing, and in vain do the Pot-shreds of the Earth, and Briars, and Thorns, set themselves in Battle-array against it; for his Ensign and Flag of Defiance against all Idolatry, with their Idols, is hell forth: and his Truth spreads, and his Light shines, by which they all see the Foundation, and Rock of Ages: And this Stone is fallen upon your Head and Body, and will grind you to Powder; for when your Head is dead, you make another with a great deal of quarrel and strife, and many times Blood is shed, that some of your Members are killed about making of a head, when the body makes him like to frantic men that have lost their Brains: But for your Racks, & Fires, and Faggots, your rude Rabble would never be kept in order; for that noble Spirit and noble Mind of Christ Jesus, the Heavenly Man, the second Adam, that rebuked his Disciples, that would have had Fire to come down from Heaven to consume them, as the Prophets did, that would not receive them; and Christ told them, that they knew not what spirit they were of, that would have had men's lives taken away, and destroy them; and this was by way of Prayer, Shall we Pray that Fire come down, etc. Now if they did not know what spirit they were of the Disciples of Christ Jesus, who would have Fire to come down to consume the People, they would not do it by Inquisitians, and outward Burn, by Stacks of Faggots, nor Hang,ing of them, as you have done: Therefore have you known what spirit you are of? Have you known your own spirits, either Pope, or Cardinal, or Friars, etc. that have burned, and racked, and put to Death so many Thousands since the Apostles days, since you got up with your counterfeit Church and Heads. And so you that do not know what spirit you are of yourselves, do you think that any that know God or Christ will trust their bodies, or their souls, or spirits in your hands, that do not know what spirit you are of yourselves? Then they may say they have lost their Reason, and Understanding, like yourselves: But Christ's Prophecy is come upon you, & John's Revelation; and the Apostles, That the Man of sin and Son of perdition is exalted above all that is called God in you; and so there might be a ceparting away from Truth, and then the man of sin should be revealed and there must be a falling away; and so he is revealed now, Thes. 2.2, but the Lord will consume him with the Breath of his Mouth, and destroy him with the Brightness of his coming, that Satan, that hath been working in you, all those lying Signs and Wonders, with the deceivableness of Unrighteousness, in you that Perish, because you receive not the Love of the Truth, that you might be saved: For this cause God hath sent strong Delusions among you, that you should believe a Lie, that they might be damned who believe not the Truth, but have had pleasure in all your unrighteous do, and action's and bloodthirstiness: But we are bound to give God Thanks always through Jesus Christ who hath called us by his Gospel to obtain the Glory of our Lord Jesus Christ, who is the Head of our Church: But It's clear you are of them that have smitten your Fellow-Servants, and have eaten and drunken with the Drunkards: for what must you look for? but to be cut asunder, and appointed your Portion with Hypocrites, where is Weeping and Gnashing of Teeth, Mat. 24. And you have made self christs, and shown your Signs and Wonders, if it were possible, to deceive the very Elect; but it is not possible; the Elect was before the World was: And so you are the unprofitable Servants, that have hid your Talent (the fruit of which is Love) under your earthly Traditions, your earthly Idols and Rudiments, your own Inventions, and Works of your own hands: and the fear you teach your people, is by your own precepts, which you never had from God, Christ, nor his Apostles; and instead of Clothing the Naked, and Feeding the Hungry, and Receiving Strangers, and Visiting the Sick, you have made Naked, you have made Sick, you have made Strangers; and in as much as you have done it to these true Christians, you have done it to Christ the Head: And why? Because they will not own your Idolatrous Ways and Idols, your counterfeit Head, your counterfeit Church; and instead of Visiting in Prison, you have cast into Prison, and there let them Perish: Hear the Sentence of the Head of the Church for all your evil do and works, Depart from me; for you must go into everlasting Punishment; yea, depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting Fire, prepared for the Devil and his Angels. Then, what have you got here by all your Merits, by all your Works, your tinkling Cymbals, your founding Brass, who have not had love? Have you given your Goods to the Poor? Can you give your Bodies to be Burned? Have you Tongues, Hebrew, Greek, and Latin, and full of Envy and Blood-thirstiness, and void of Love? A seditious Sect, degenerated: Have you Faith? It's but a dead one, one that doth not work by Love; for Love is the fulfilling of the Law: Is not the Birth of the Flesh sound amongst you, of Hagar, that persecutes him that is born of the Spirit, the Free-woman's Children: And so are not you the dishonourable Birth, that must be cast out? And are not the works of the Flesh manifest amongst you, as, Adultery, Fornication, Uncleanness, Lasciviousness, Idolatry, Witchcraft, Hatred, Variance, Emulations, Wrath, Strife Sedition, Heresy, Envy, Murder, Drunkenness, Revilling, & such like? Look upon your church, are not all these found? Look over Ireland on your Holidays; what Drunkeness; I never saw so many people drunk, as I do of your people, on that you call Peter's-day; but the fruits of the spirit it is Love, Joy, Peace, Gentleness, Patience, Meekness, Goodness, Long suffering, Faith, Temperance; but these are wanting among you, and the other Fruits plentifully may be gathered of your corrupt Trees, that cannot bring forth good Fruit; who are Strangers to the Covenant of Promise, without the Hope that purisies as he is pure; therefore you must have a Purgatory when you are dead: and so are like a Company of Heathen Priests, raging for your Images, and your Idols, and your gods, you have made of Bread and Wine, and christs; and are ignorant of them that preach the true Doctrine of the Apostles, who preached the Word in the Heart and Mouth; and Christ was in people, except they were Reprobates, though they have had Bread and Wine: The Apostles tell people no where that Bread and Wine was Christ, after they had blessed it; the Apostle tells them of an Anointing within them, that should teach them, and as it doth teach them, they should continue in the Son and in the Father, and as he was, so were they in the present evil World: So they need not have a Purgatory, but you are all in your Purgatories already, Head and Tail, and Body, already separated from God, and the true Church, and Head; And so as Christ said, False Prophets should come, Mat. 7.2., and Antichrists; and bid the Disciples not to go after them, for they should be inwardly ravening Wolves, having Sheepsclothing: And so its clear that you have the Sheepsclothing, that you are inwardly ravening Wolves, that have worried so many Sheep and Lambs; but you have preyed upon them, and made War with the Remnant of the Seed of the Woman, and have drunk the Blood of the Saints and Martyrs of Jesus So as Christ said they should come, and John said they were come, and it was the last time then, and they went forth into the World, and the World went after them; and so you were the Foremen of the World, that led into Error, as you may read in John, and Mat. 7.21. A dread Timothy, where the spirit speaks expressly in the latter days of forbidding Marriage, and of 〈◊〉, the doctrine of Devils: And read Judas, such as should go in Cain's way, and Balaam's way, and Corah's way, gainsaying the Gospel, persecuting for Gifts and Rewards; and here your Fruits are clearly seen, the Son of Righteousness shines over your heads amongst his People; and so here you went from the Apostles Head, Christ; if you had been of them, no doubt but you would have continued with them; Christ saw you inwardly ravening from the Spirit of God, from the Spirit of Truth, the Word of God in the Heart; from the true Faith, that works by Love; from the true Doctrine, and so are up to the very brim in false doctrine, and Idols, and Images of your own making, and Inventions; and so you may see in the Revelation, how the Beasts got up; the first out of the Sea, the second out of the Earth; and how the Dragon gave his Power to the Beast, and how his Worship was set up; and how the Whore the false Church got up, and there are the Names of the Beast, which we leave you to interpret; and how long the Beast must be worshipped: and how long the true Church was to be in the Wilderness, and to be fed of God, and the Manchild taken up to God, and he should be brought forth again, and to rule all Nations with a Rod of Iron; and the Bride should come forth again, and the Marriage of the Lamb should be known again, and the Lamb and the Saints should have the Victory: So read your Antiquity, and how that all that would not receive the Beast's Mark, and drink the Whore's Cup; the false-church she drunk the Blood of the Saints: What, hath she been as a Queen, and hath she seen no sorrow? But now is she losing her Children; and the Scripture is fulfilling, Glory be to the Lord God forever. But you shall cry, Alas, Alas, What have we had a Golden Cup, that is full of Abomination? What have your Kings drunk it, and do some begin to hate her? Oh! You must drink the Cup of the fierceness of the Wrath of God Almighty, before this cup of Abomination be purged out of you: The Angels begin to sound their Trumpets; and the Everlasting Gospel is preached a●ain, and that makes you to roar; it sounds to Rome, and to the Turks, and to the Maguls, the Jews, and Gentiles: the Everlasting Power of God, before the Devil was, will awaken you: The Gospel-Bell gins to Ring, it is beyond Aaron's Bells; Christ, the Highpriest, is entering into his Temple. For, had you been of the Apostles, no doubt but you would have continued with them; for your doctrine is forbid by Christ and his Apostles; for Christ bid, F●ed my Lambs. And you Wolves worry them, and have got the Sheep. Clothing in three or four Languages, you have learned naturally; and they that had the gift of Tongues were but tinkling Cymbals and sounding Brass, who had not love; and therefore all your Sounds, it hath been but in comparison the sound of Brass, and your tinkling but as Cymbals, and your own Inventions: And so your head is false, not being found of that Catholic Faith, that works by Love: And the Word of the Lord God is kindling, that Fire that will burn the Whore's Flesh, and will take her, together with the Beast, and the Dragon, and cast her and them alive into the Lake of Fire. What, you to profess Christ Jesus in words, and Murder and Persecute the true Christians to death! What is this but Ishmael, and Cain, and Sodom, and Egypt, and the Jews, and the Heathens spirit and nature; and the Whore, and the Beast, and the Dragon, and the Devil, and false Prophets, and false Apostles, and Antichrist against the true Apostle and Christ Jesus, who saith, Love Enemies, Love one another. Oh Seditious Sect! For when the second Beast risen out of the Earth, than all your earthly Idols were established, earthly Inventions, earthly Images; and then got your Whore on the top of the Beast, your false Church, Mystery Babylon, arrayed in Purple and Scarlet, decked with Gold and Precious-Stones, and Pearls; do you see how she is decked? a Golden Cup in her hand, full of Abomination, of Filthiness, of Fornication; and upon her head written, Mystery Babylon the great, the Mother of Harlots: Yea, of all the Harlots from God, from Christ, from the Apostles, from the Spirit, from the Faith, from the Truth, from the Power of God, the Cross of Christ, from the Righteousness, and from Christ the true Head, and from the true Church: And this Whore thus decked, has drunk the Blood of the Saints, and Jesus his Martyrs: Who cannot but wonder to see such a Monster! And from whence came he, that this Whore, this Woman, this false Church sits upon, but from the Bottomless-pit; and thither must they return again, with his Horns. And now is the Cry is, Come out of her my People; signifying that God hath a People to come out there, lest they be Partakers of her Plagues, This is the day that the Lord is calling, Come out of her my People; we have heard his Voice, and can rejoice over her; for God will be avenged on her, and she shall be cast down like a mighty Millstone, read Rev. 17. For mark, Here is the Devil, the Dragon, and the Whore, and the false Prophet as Companions, that came out of the Beast like Froges. These go altogether; to wit, the Beast, and the Dragon, and the Whore on the top of the Beast, the Dragon's Power, and his worship hath been set up, and she is riding on the Devil's power, killing and murdering the Lord Jesus his Martyrs, and Prophets. What! Hath your Church lived deliciously, and been as a Queen, and no Widow? Doth she profess to be a Married Wife, and a Queen? She hath made many of her Merchants rich, and is not she become the Habitation of Devils, and Hold of every foul spirit, and Cage of every hateful Bird? And hath not the Beast had two Horns, like a Lamb, and exercised the power of the first Beast; and all that will not worship, and receive h●s Image, and drink the Whore's Cup, must be made war against, and their Blood drunk? The Son of Righteousness is risen, that shines, that shows his Horns, his Marks, his Names, & what is written upon the Whore's Forehead: and so against them that have kept the Testimony of Jesus (the Spirit of Prophecy) by which they have seen you, you have made War against them, and against them that have kept the Commands of God, the Remnant of her Seed, which is the Seed of the Woman, whom the Dragon was wrath withal, and was fled into the Wilderness, there to be fed of God one thousand two hundred sixty days; and this Dragon gave his power to your Beast, that the Whore sits upon; and so by the Dragon's power she rules: And out of this Beasts power have your false Prophet gone crooking up and down the Nations, and creeping under the Mountain like Frogs, the unclean spirits; and these spirits are Devils, that came out of the Mouth of the Beast and false Prophet that should work Miracles, and deceive the World. But a day of Famine will come, and Plague and Death to this Life that you live in, and flaming Fire; for strong is the Lord God that judgeth her, the great Whore, and false Church, her smoke is seen, and we know that you will begin to knaw your tongues for Pain; for your Kingdom is full of Darkness: For the Angel hath Power over your Thrones, and your Rivers will be dried up, which is muddy Water. For hath not your City been divided into three parts, and the Turk got one part, and the Protestants another? And all your noisome Smells begin to smell, who have the Beasts Mark in your Foreheads, and have worshipped his Image, that have been out of the Image of Christ; and so the Lord is True and Righteous in his Judgements; for he hath judged the great Whore, which hath corrupted the Earth with her Forhication and will avenge the blood of his Servants at your hands: she hath corrupted the Earth with her Idols, and Idolatries, and Inventions, and Fables; and so we are come through the Light of Christ Jesus, above her, by which we see the Heavenly Jerusalem, the true Spouse, the Lambs Wise, Christ the Head, the true Church, and the new Earth, wherein dwells Righteousness; and your old Earth, which the Devil compasseth, wherein dwells Unrighteousness, filled with Idolatry and Corruption, and filthiness of flesh and spirit, that which cumbers the Ground, fruitless Trees that have born no Fruit to God. The Gates of our City, Heavenly Jerusalem, are not shut neither by Night nor Day; but any that come to the Light of Christ Jesus, they may enter through the Light into our City, which is far above your Mystery Babylon, false City, false Church, Whore, Dragon, false Prophet, which hath been the Drinker of the Blood of the Righteous; Persecutors and Murderers by the Devil's power and authority, which Christ, who is our Head comes to destroy, who was before the Devil was, and will be when the Devil is gone; who was First and Last; the Beginning, and End; the Top and Cornerstone, who is our Rock, which our House is built upon; and our Foundation, upon which we are built: Glory to God in the Highest for evermore. And now to something further. Whereas you tell us a long Tale of Anaxagoras, a Philosopher; you have just hit your own Condition, for it suits your present Condition, and it is a very fit Comparison for you, who would make People believe you can make a god and christ, and make a head for your Body, the POPE; and so deceive people; as he makes people believe, That the Snow was Black, and the Sun was a broad Plate of Nettal: And so you are so perverse in Nature, though you are confuted, and convinced in your Consciences, you will not be brought from your Error, as before mentioned, and out of your Seditious and Erroneous ways; and so you have gone about to confound Truth, but it is too hard for you; for the Devil is out of it. And as for your profane Impiety, you say we draw people to, that is your own Condition, and Jewish Fables, and Heathens also, you may find enough of them at home in your own Houses and Fields; nay worse than the jews. It seems you cry out, That we Disturb the Tranquillity of the Christian Religion: Nay, it is your false Religion, which you have made, who are a Seditious Sect, who are erred from the Pure Religion that is above, that keeps from the Spots of the World, which is to visit the Fatherless, Widows, and Strangers; and you instead of this cast into Prison, and let your Poor go Begging up and down your Streets, and Fatherless, and Widows; as look into France, and other Parts: And if you were in this Religion, which you, as a Seditious Sect, are erred from, which would keep you from the Spots of the World, which is pure from above, and undefiled before God, you would not tell people of a Purgatory: And so the pure Religion we stand for, against all your false Ones; and every one among us may Minister as they have received the Grace, as good Stewards; and they may all Prophesy one by one: And God hath poured out his Spirit upon his Sons, and Daughters, and Handmaids, and Youngmen, and Old men, that every one hath somewhat to offer to God; but this is a Strange Paradox to your false Church and seditious Sect, that are erred from the Apostles, who limit your Preaching to such as have got the Natural tongues; and so, Nebuchadnezar like, whom you please you set up, and whom you please you pull down: and whom you please you open their Mouths, and whom you please you stop them; and they that would not Bow at the sound of your PIPE and ORGAN, you cast into the Fire, Nebuchadnezar like: But this is a Strange Paradox; you can make Ministers, as you can make a Christ and a god, one like the other, out of Truth; an● so, in so doing deny the true Ministers, and the true Christ, and God, who is to be worshipped in the Spirit and in the Truth, which Christ set up above 1600 years since; and since you have forsaken Christ, that is worshipped in the Spirit and in the Truth, you compel others; do not you so? who is the same to day, yesterday, and forever. But from this Infallible Worship, that Christ s●t up in the Spirit and in the Truth (which the Devil is out of) are you erred from the Spirit and Truth, & become a Seditious Sect, an Erroneous and Schismatical Sect and Persecuting the true Worshippers of the living God in Spirit and Truth, which Truth and Spirit is within, by which Spirit the God of Truth is known. It seems John Stubbs, and James Lancaster, have sorely angered that Seditious Sect of Rome. And whereas thou tellest us of Fanatic Assertions, which we are clear of; but thou mayst look at home for that, and take in thy old father's Puddles of Errors and Blasphemies, which we deny: And as for Fanatic, is there a People more like them in the World than you, in Rage, and Fury, and Madness against the Righteous, for your god you have made, and your Images, and Idols, and Fables? And have you not tewed yourselves about them, as much as ever Tubal did about the gods they made? For the Spirit of God is Gentle and Meek, and so your Fanatic Humours have sufficiently spoken forth themselves to the Nations. And whereas thou speakest, That we have rightly tituled the Mother Church of Rome the Old-Woman: ☞ Though thou hast got some Glory in it, which seems to paint thee off a little, but thou shouldst have taken all our words, The Mother Church of Rome, with all her Old-womans' Fables; this thou termest to be a Scoff: But is it not a Scoff in thee to call us the Young Woman, for calling that the Mother Church of Rome, the Old Woman, with her Fables, that Harlot who hath drunk the Blood of the Saints and Martyrs of Jesus; she hath 〈◊〉 ●onour from God, nor her saints; and her Reward will be the Flames, and all that hold her up, the Flames of Hell; read in the Revelation her Portion: And there is no comparison between your Mystery Babylon, and the Old Woman of Rome, that you cry up so; and Christ Jesus, the Saviour, and the true Church; but it manifests your Ignorance and Darkness, and as them that call Darkness Light, and Light Darkness; Good Evil, and Evil Good: And your Mother Rome doth begin to be out of date, and is out of date with many that are come to Christ Jesus, their Head, the true Church; and do lay her aside like an old Almanac. Thou sayest, because we call her the Old Woman of Rome, this was enough to convince us of our Arguments. Nay, nay, she is a Harlot, and not the Spouse of Christ; you speak as men that have lost your brains: For though we do say the Old Woman, with all her Fables; yet we deny her to be the Spouse of Christ Jesus, for she hath shed the Blood of the Martyrs and is brim full of Idolatry, and her Cup is full of Abominations, which corrupt the Earth; and to the Brim she must have a Cup of Indignation of the Wrath of the Lord God Almighty. And as for the Weathercocks, blown about with every rue and false doctrine, look into your own Fields, and look at Rome: How many false Doctrines have blown you about, and false Ways, and several Images, and Orders, have you set up since the Apostles days by that persecuting murdering spirit? Do not you call your old Mass-house, your Church? Do not you Worship there? And when you come into them, do not you put off your Hats? And do not you worship when your Host is carried, and fall upon your knees, and worship your Image? Is not here your Church, founded upon Idolatry? And did not the Apostles speak of your Antiquity, and worshipping of Angels, and that were Intruders into those things that they did not see, that did not hold the Head, and neglect the Body; and so you are Worshippers of Angels, and neglect the Head, and have set up a Head of your own making. And have not the Gates of Hell prevailed against your outward House, which you call a Church, and your People. Now you seem to shuffle, and call the People your Church, and say, The Gates of Hell hath not prevailed against your Church, that is, against your People: The Reason, you say, is. The Spirit of Truth, Christ saith, shall lead his Church into a●●●●th, which he would send to them: And Christ's saying to Peter, Upon this Rock will I build my Church: And therefore because Christ said these words to his Disciples, therefore the Gates of Hell hath not prevailed against your Church, and your Church hath stood without Interruption to this present day, neither Fails nor Corrupts. Mark People, how impudent these Men are! What without blushing they can speak such words: Is not all their Brothel-house, and Stew-houses, and Fornication, and Adultery, is not this Uncleanness? And all their Idols, and Images, from their false Church, filled to the brim with that? And all their bloody Persecutions, is not this from an unclean spirit? But he saith, Their Church hath stood without the least Interruption: And now people, you know that since Boniface the third, the first Universal Pope, was set up by a Murderer, one Phocas, who Murdered his Master; and since their Church hath been held up by Murder; he saith, That their Church hath stood without the least Interruption: Now since the Pope got up, did not the Turk get up? And did not the Turk get from the Pope, Jerusalem, Constantinople, Egypt, Greece, and many other Parts of the World, that might be mentioned? How can these men be so audations, as to say, Their Church hath stood without Interruption; And if the Turk be the Gates of Hell, he hath prevailed against you: And are there not Protestants in France? Yea, at Rome; Protestant's in Switzerland, Protestants in Germany; and many Princes, as King of Denmark, King of Sweedeland, and Low-Countries, and Ireland, Scotland, and England, and other places which have forsaken the Pope and his Church, in words. Now have not the Gates of Hell prevailed against this People? Have not these Papists lost their Reason and Understanding, as men? What, hath not the god of the World blinded you, that you cannot see? Oh that men should be so blind, and so bold, to utter such Falsehood, as to say, That it hath been without the least Interruption; the Pope and false Church! Nay, it is their City that hath been divided: what I yars are these I that love to Lie, to Flatter, and Dissemble on this manner, and to Deceive the Simple; they are simple indeed that will be deceived. Alas, alas, You are driven up into a narrow scantling, over you were at first. Did not you Burn with Fire and Faggot in England, in Bonner's time? If these be the Gates of Hell, they have prevailed against you, and your counterfeit Church too, and your Head also: And it hath been the unclean Ghost that came from the Dragon, that hath led you into all these Images, and Idolatry, and Sedition, and Blackness, and Darkness, which is over you. We know that Christ did pray to the Father, and he hath sent the Spirit of Truth, that leads the true Church into all Truth, of which Church Christ is the Head. And whereas thou speakest, Of Peter's Feeding his Lambs and Sheep; you have torn the Sheep in pieces, and Lambs also, and ruled by Force and Cruelty, and said the Wolves; and Peter having Power to Bind (and so did the rest of the Apostles) and to Lose: What is this to your counterfeit Church, whom the Gates of Hell hath prevailed against? And a great stir you make to hold up the Pope, your counterfeit Head: And you cavel at that in the Acts, of Peter's being sent by the Disciples to Preach, Acts 8. for you would fain have Peter a Pope, that you may hold up your Pope; and this clearly proves that Peter was not above his Brethren: but they were all Brethren, as Christ said, they were his Brethren; you abuse Christ's words in saying that he made him the greatest, and Head; for Christ tells his Disciples all his True Church are Brethren: But doth thy Christ, that is made of Bread and Wine, tell thee that Peter was Head? And so you will make a Head of the Pope, and your Pope and you will be Pead of your christ, that you have made; and Christ said to his Disciples, when they were at Strife who should be counted greatest, Christ tells them, The Kings of the Gentiles exercise Lordship over them, and Authority over them, and are called Gracious Lords; it must not be so amongst you. Here you slight Christ's words, in making a Head, and setting up your Gracious Lords, your Popes, to exercise Lordship over the People, in despite against Christ's Command; and so plainly manifest an Antichrist, a Schismatic, and a Sect degenerated from the true Brotherhood, and true Head; and he that will be the Greatest must be as the Least, he that is Chiefest as he that Serveth, etc. and so he brings to an even rule: And in many places it is plain that Peter never took the Headship to himself, as your counterfeit Head hath done in opposition to the True Church, and true Christ, in despite against him; and this makes no Contradiction; for the Chiefest must be as he that Serveth, and the Greatest as the Least; this cuts off your Lordship; for the Scribes and Pharisees were reproved for that: And thou bringest an Argument to prove that Peter was Head of the Apostles, though the Apostles sent him. Thou sayest, Though the Father sent the Son, yet to say that the Father hath greater Power than the Son, thou sayest, is Blasphemy. Christ saith of Him, That his Father is Greater than He, John 14.28. and that was no Blasphemy in Christ: And how was he Greater, was it not in Power? Yet we tell thee again, that the Father and Son is one according to his Divinity; he is God, and God was in Christ; and according to the Flesh he Suffered, it was not God that Suffered, that Died, the Eternal God, but Christ Suffered according to the Flesh, as the Scripture declares: for what God was, that Christ prayed to, and said, Father, if it be possible, let this Cup pass from me; but not my Will but they Will: But these things are a Mystery to you, and your dark spirits, who it seems are ignorant of the Scriptures, neither are the Holy Men of God's words fit to come into your Mouths. And whereas thou sayest, Christ would have I relates to be humble People. Look over the Pope's Church, and what Humility do you see? Are not your Women full of Spots, and the Pope with his Tripple-Crown, and their Gorgeous Attire? Was this like Mary the Mother of Jesus, who was brought to Bed in a Stable, and laid Jesus in the Manger? Now we shall hardly have room in your Stable, but in your Fires and Inquisitions; for the Devil would Destroy True Christianity throughout the Earth, who is become a false Christian in you; but Christ will broke the ●e●d of hi●. And if Peter was at Rome yet he was not Pope over all the Churches, nor any of his Disciples, nor none of Peter's Follower; all these things will not cover your Seditious Head, nor this Catalogue of Bishops, that were set up, not for the first Six Hundred Years after Christ, there was no Universal Pope all that time, till, as I said before, Boniface the third was set up by Phocas the Murderer; and after came in the Turk; and then came in the Devil, that hath filled your Cup to the brim with a Raging spirit, and a Murdering spirit And thou sayest the truth of this Succession is gathered out of Matthew, which proves nothing at all of this to you; for your counterfeit Church hath been prevailed against by them which worship Mahomet: Christ was with Peter to the end of his days, and with all them that be in his Spirit, the Spirit of Christ Jesus. But what is this to you who have erred from Peter's Spirit, and are got into a Murderous spirit, who Persecute People to Death for your Rudiments; Peter did not Persecute People for not owning Christ, nor for not following Idols, or images, the Works of men's hands. Another false Cover these Papists have, which they daub People with, concerning Peter's being Head of the Church, where it is said in Matth. 16. where Christ asked his Disciples, Whom do men say that I am? And their Answer was, That he was John Baptist, some say; and others Elias; and others, Jeremiah, or one of the Prophets: But he said, Whom do you say that I am? Peter said. Thou art Christ the Son of the Living God: And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou Simon Barjona: for Flesh and Blood hath not revealed this to thee: I s●y unto thee, th●u art Peter; and upon this Rock I will build my Church, and the Gates of H●ll shall not prevail against it. Now if this Church had been built upon Peter, as he was a man of Flesh and Blood, as you say; then when Peter was put to Death, the Gates of Hell had prevai'ed then; and here the Papists would give Christ the Lie; but Christ saith, That Flesh and Blood had not revealed this to thee; and thou art Peter; and upon this Rock will I build my Church: That his Flesh and Blood had not revealed unto him; thou art Peter: And what signifies Peter? If Peter signifies a Rock; and if Christ built his Church upon the signification of Peter's Surname, which signifies but an outward Rock, which outward Rock may be brought as a Figure of Christ, or a Parable, or Comparison; if it be built upon the Parable, it is not built upon the thing itself: Must not then all your Pope's names be called Peter, if they be the Rocks of your Church; and so your Church must be built upon their Sur-names: Now if it be built upon Peter as a man, and your Popes as men, as you say it is, as Flesh, and Blood, etc. then it is built upon the signification of the word Man, which is not the signification of Peter's Surname; but the signification of Man, is Adam; for Son of Man is Son of Adam, as Been Adam, Ben Elohim and Adam signifies Red Earth, does it not? And so the Interpretation of the Pope's Rock is, That he built his Church upon Red Earth; and Red Earth is not a Rock. And what is that which Flesh and Blood hath not revealed? Thou art Christ the Son of the Living God, and upon this Rock is Christ's Church built, that his Flesh and Blood had not revealed, and the Gates of Hell shall not prevail against this Rock, Christ Jesus; it destroys the Devil, and his works, and his Power is over Hell and Death; and they are Living Stones that be Members of his Body. What is all this to the Pope's counterfeit Head and Church, which the Gates of Hell have prevailed against, their fleshly Foundation, their fleshly Church, and their carnal Head, which is devilish: And thus they have erred and degenerated from the Foundation of the Prophets, and Apostles, and Christ Jesus, being the Top and Cornerstone; for Christ was their Rock the Apostles confessed; and the Rock that followed the Jews was Christ: And so it is clear, that you are the Foolish Builders, that have built your House on the Sand, the Sea shore, and many of your Houses are walled down; for they that built up●n the Rock Christ Jesus, which Flesh and Blood hath not revealed, but the Father hath revealed that Rock which his Church is built upon; by his Power and by his Spirit they stand sure: Glory be to God forever. And whereas you bring Matt. 26. vers. 26, 27, 28. and compare it to John 6.5. This you do bring to prove your Sacrament of the Altar, and your christ and god, that is made of Bread and Wine, which is to no purpose at all; for that of John 6. where Christ saith, Your Fathers did eat Manna in the Wilderness, but are dead: So you have eaten your god that you have made with Bread and Wine, and are dead: But Christ is the true Bread, which comes down from Heaven; for Bread comes from the Corn and Wine from the Grape, and that comes from below; but he that eateth this Bread, that comes dow from Heaven, shall live for ever, etc. he that doth eat Christ's Flesh and drink his Blood, doth not eat it Figuratively, but they eat it Really, if they have life in him: And Christ's Flesh is not Wafers, nor his Blood is not outward Wine, that comes from the Grape; but Christ saith, His words are Spirit and Life, & the Flesh profitteth nothing; for it is the Spirit that quickeneth: Therefore you are darker than the Jews, and cannot receive Christ's words, but judge them carnally, as they did: And for your old Fathers Talk or Story, that proves nothing to us, but is like your own Fables. And as for that 1 Cor. 11.28. proves nothing as for you, that make a christ and a god of Bread and Wine, for they wrote, That they were to take it in Remembrance of Christ: and if a Remembrance of him, than it was not he: Have you lost your Reason? If thou dost any thing in Remembrance of a man, if it be the man, what, dost thou it in Rememembrance of him? He saith, As often as you do this, do it in Remembrance of Christ; as often as you eat this Bread: And so both the Bread and the Cup was left unto them as Often, not Always; for they were to enjoy Christ Jesus: And he said he would come and dwell in them; and so had it been he. Christ, it had been Nonsense and Ridiculous to say, in Remembrance of him, when it was he: What silly reasoning is this? And you do show forth his Death till he come; so saith he, Till he come; Mark, than it is not he, it is not Christ; for if he is to come, it is not the same Christ as was offered up upon the Cross, if he be risen, and he is to come; So you have been all the unworthy Eaters and Drinkers, and not discern Christ nor his Body, who have put your Bread and Wine for the Body of Christ; and so have eaten and drunk your own Damnation, not discerning the Lords Body; and therefore you are Sick, and Weak, and asleep in your Sins: That which is done in a Show, is it not a Figure, or a Shadow? And a Shadow mu●t be done away when the Substance is come: And people must come to die with Christ, and be buried with him, if they live with him, and not always eating (1 Cor. 11.) and drinking in Remembrance of him Bread and Wine; and they must Suffer with him, and Dye with him, and be Buried with him and Rise with him; now if you be risen with Christ, you seek those things that come from above; for Bread, Water, and Wine is from be●ow: For Christ saith, I am the Door, doth not be? And he is the Way, he is the Vine, and he is a Rock, and a Stone: And is Christ an outward Stone, an outward Vine, outward Bread, and outward Water, an outward Door, an outward Rock? If thou interpretest the one, interpret the other, and confute thyself, which is enough to confute all your whole counterfeit Church. People may eat and drink natural bread and natural wine without Damnation to themselves: But surely the Bread and the Wine, which you say is Christ, and his Blood, and his Flesh, and the whole christ, a Wafer, or sup of Wine, or a piece of Bread, any Drunkard or Profane Man or Woman, that is, can see it with their outward Eyes; but to say that to be Christ, his Flesh, and his Blood, that came down from Heaven, which came from the Grape, and from the Corn; thou wouldst make people believe, as the Philosopher, That Snow is Black, and the Sun abroad Plate of Metal. And your Confecrations makes your Wafers and Bread no more Christ, than it was before, nor God; for it is Blasphemy in you to say, That Wafers, or a little Bread or Wine is God: You have made many gods, and eaten them, and drunk them; but except your simple people had been enchanted, and so you make them believe it to be God; but we are over your Enchantments, and in that which will Grind you to Powder; and we know that Christ hath given his Flesh for the Life of the World, that is a Mystery to you, that make Christ's of Bread and Wine. Moreover, you say, That the Body of Christ was given for to redeem our Sins upon the Cross, which Body he gave to his Disciples at his Last Supper, etc. Answ. People, did you ever hear the like? What silly Logic or Rhetoric is this? It seems the Apostles eat Christ's Body, and drunk his Blood; then what Body had Christ to offer upon the Cross? Had he two Bodies; for he saith, He redeemed their Sins with his Body upon the Cross; and before he saith, He had given his Body to his Disciples, and they did eat it after Supper? What Nonsense and Confusion is this! It may well be called Mystery Babylon, the Mother of Harlots, that taught him such a Lesson: After the Disciples had eaten his Body, and drunk his Blood, when he went to be offered up upon the Cross, which he saith, His Body was offered up upon the Cross, for the redeeming of their sins: Did you ever hear such Doctrine? Did Christ come to redeem the Sins of people? You read of the true Doctrine, that the Apostles came to turn people from Darkness to Light; but you never heard of such a Doctrine; Sin is of the Devil: Did Christ come to Redeem the Devil? Nay: He came to destroy the Works of the Devil, and to Redeem People from Sin: See what gross Delusion and blind Ignorance appears here from this Seditious Sect of Papists, and these that stile themselves Masters of Arts: The Papists say, The same Body that suffered upon the Cross, the Apostles eat; and upon this their Salvation hangs: Now if the Apostles had eaten it, and drunk his Blood, than what Body had he to offer? Or see what Salvation these people have, which hang upon the Bread and Wine after Consecrated, to be Christ, and have no Christ but that which they make; And that is it which suffered upon the Cross: Then how came he to rise again, if they had eaten him, that very Body after Supper, that very Body of Christ Jesus? And how came he to be laid in the Grave, and yet came after to show the Apostles his Hands and Sides, seeing they had eaten him, and his Body was whole? And the Apostle saith, As often as you do eat this Bread, and drink this Cup; Was it an outward Cup they drunk, or was there somewhat in the Cup? Did they swallow an outward Cup? Come, interpret this, and confute yourselves. And whereas thou bringest Faustus and Augustine, and speakest scoffingly of the People of God (called Quakers) and call'st them Humming Speakers, and showest thyself to be of Ishmaels' brood: And you bring St. John Damascenus, and a many such like Fathers of the Church, which is nothing to the purpose, but only to blind People (that are ignorant) withal, to make them believe that your Bread and Wine is Christ after you have blessed it, to keep your poor deceived people in ignorance: But the Lord is taking off your Covers, that your filthy Rags may be seen, and your ugly Images and Idols, which have been set up by the Unclean spirit, and spirit of Persecution. And whereas thou layest down a Charge, To know who was our first grand Speaker, after Peter, of our Religion? I Answer, He that was of Peter's Spirit, which was of the Spirit of Christ Jesus, which was the Seed of the Woman, whom the Beast, and your false Church, the Whore, hath drunk their Flood, and made War against them that have kept the Testimony of ●es●●s, that have seen all your works and actions, and testify against them, with all the whole Train of Idolatry, and Idols, and Images, that you have made an Idol of, Bread and Wine; and now the Seed is rising, and the Witness, that will make your earth to quake; and Christ says, Learn of Me; he was the first Speaker to us, called Quakers; This is my beloved Son, hear ye him, saith God: So I tell thee, he was our first Speaker, and he hath given us his Spirit, that leads into all Truth, that hath taught us the Way to life and Salvation; and he is the Rock of Ages, and not Peter, and the Foundation of many Generations; and is the same to day as he was yesterday, and so forever; and he hath been our Leader, our Prophet, our Shepherd, our Priest, our Bishop, our Councillor, our Minister, our Preacher, whom God hath anointed to Preach, that Preacheth Life, Light, and Salvation: So we come to obey his Doctrine, and do his Will, and we shall know his Doctrine; if in doing the same, you will know our first Preacher, you must come to the Light, to see him, which will condemn all the Images and Idols, and condemn your christ and god, that you make of bread and wine; and condemn your head and church too. And whereas thou speakest Scoffingly, Of the Church of God being Smothered under a Cloud? We say, to these Mockers, and to this Seditious Sect, That the Church hath been in the Wilderness, there fed of God Forty and Two Months, One Thousand Two Hundred and Threescore Days, which is a Time, and Times, and half a Time; so count you a day for a year, and then you may reckon yourselves how long your false church the Mother of Harlots, hath been on the back of the Beast, whom the Devil the Dragon gives power to and the year when the Woman, the true Church, is coming-out of the Wilderness, who hath been fed of God: God hath been her Feeder, which indeed you with the Dragon's power would have smothered Her, as under a Cloud or a Tub, but the Earth helped Her; and she was preserved in the Wilderness, where you could not find her, though you went with Judas his Swords, Staves and Lanterns, & your band of Soulaiers from your counterfeit Head: But I tell you, She was fed of God in the Wilderness Ferty two Months; and reckon this, and then you may see how long the false church, and the whore and the beast hath reigned, and when she comes out of the Wilderness again. Then we Challenge you, To tell us how many Martyrs, Prophets, and Saints, the beast, and whore, the false church, that sat upon the Beast, in the Dragon's power; how much of their Flood have they drunk, to wit, the Blood of the Saints and Martyrs of Jesus? And so by this time thou wilt see the coming in of the False church the where; and the going into the Wilderness of the true Church; the Down-fall of the Beast, and of the Whore; for if thou canst count the number of the true Church, that comes out of the Wilderness, thou wilt know the number of your false. The Scriptures we own; we do contend against your filthy Rags of your Heresy, which we deny, and will not put on; for we have a better Garment, which is the Fine Linen, which is the Righteousness of the Saints. THe Ingenious Reader hath read your Paper, and here is somewhat in Answer to it; and finds it a confused piece of Nonsense, and Toutologies, and Contradictions; and if all the Forefathers, and these that thou hast quoted, be as dark as you are, they are in that which is Darkness itself, and ignorant of the Scripture, and of Christ, and the Apostles Doctrine, and Spirit and, Power, and Faith, and are separated and degenerated from it (to wit) the Spirit of God: You are all judged, you and your Forefathers, together with your Works, your Images; and are in the spirit of Persecution, the first birth of the Flesh; of Hagar, that is cast out, and and not the Bride of the Lamb's Wife, nor the true Spouse of Christ Jesus, which is coming forth of the Wilderness. hallelujah. Postscript. IN Matt. 26: Christ said, Take the Cup, and said, Drink ye all of it: Now was it an outward Cup that the Dissciples did drink, or something in the Cup? Then you do interpret this wrong; for it was not the Cup they did drink. And then you must interpret that Scripture [This is my Body, and Christ broke the outward Bread] then did Christ break his own Body, and give it to his Disciples before he suffered: and did they eat it then? What Body had Christ to offer upon the Cross for the Sins of the People, if that the Apopostles had eaten it? And Christ doth not say, The Wine which was called the Blood of the New Testament, was the New Testament. And Mark 14. and Luke 22. Christ broke the Bread, and gave it to his Disciples: And did he break his Body that suffered upon the Cross for Mankind? No: His Body was whole then: And he took the Bread and broke it, and gave it to the Disciples, and they did eat it: For if that outward Wine was his Blood, and the Bread his Body, than his Blood and Body was eaten and drunk before he suffered; and if his Disciples had eaten his Body, and drunk his Blood, than they had eaten Christ; and then there had been no Offering on the Cross for the Sins of Mankind, according to your Assertion. And in M●tt. 26. Mark 14. Christ saith, For I say unto you, I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the Kingdom of God. Lule 22. For I say unto you, I will not drink of the Fruit of the Vine, until the Kingdom of God shall come. Mark 14. Verily I say unto you, I will drink no more of the of the Fruit of the Vine, until that day that I drink it new in the Kingdom of God. And Matt. 26. Christ saith, But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this Fruit of the Vine, until that day when I drink it new in the Father's Kingdom. What! Will Christ drink his own Blood with his Disciples new in his Father's Kingdom, and eat of the Bread, his own Body, in the Kingdom of God? And did Christ eat his own body, and drink his own Blood while he was on the Earth with his Disciples? for he saith, I will no more drink, & I will not any more eat, until it be fulfilled in the Kingdom of God; and I will no more drink until that day (said he) that I drink it new in my Father's Kingdom. And what doth NO MORE signify? Doth it not signify that he had eaten and drunk it before? And what then do you say, or affirm, that he had eaten his own Body, and drunk his own Blood? Come, let us see what sense you will make of this, with all your Keys? And what did the Pascal-Lamb typify forth, your outward Bread and Wine? And what did one outward thing Type forth another outward thing? And what did Christ eat himself, and drink himself? and did the Apostles eat Christ before he suffered? Is this your Doctrine? Did not the Paschal Lamb Typify our Paschal Lamb, CHRIST, our Passover? And what did it type forth your Bread, and Wine, christ, which you made, which is outward, and from the ground? And there your Heads go downward, and the one outward thing types forth another outward thing; and this is your Doctrine; is it not? and so that one Natural Types forth another. But we tell you, That Christ, our Pascal-Lamb, endeth the Jews Pascal-Lamb, and their Passover; for he is the Substance of them, which were Types of him, who is the spiritual Man, who endeth them all, that were Types and Figures of him. And the Apostle saith, 1 Cor. 10. For we being many are one Bread and one Body, etc. and what was this, the outward bread? and were the Apostles and Saints Bodies, outward bread? Or were the Saints the Body of Christ, and he their Head; and so one Body, and one Head. Or hath Christ ever a Body, but what you do make of Bread and Wine? Answer. And the Apostle saith, 1 Cor. 10. That the Bread, and the Cup, was the Communion of the Body of Christ. And he doth not say, That the Bread is the Body of Christ; nor doth he say, That the Cup is Christ's Blood. And wherein doth your Cup and Table differ from the Cup and Table of Devils? Answer: And come let us see what sense you will make of this, you Corrupters and Destroyer's of Scriptures, the Masters of all Corruptions, Theft, and Plunder; the Devils Espouse, and a Help meet; who with his Sparks setteth Princes together by the Ears; this usurped Dragon would have brought the Earth to desolation, who with his fiery Sparks, which he hath thrown amongst the Nations, hath set the Nations on fire, and would have all bow to him, and Persecutes them that bows to God. And are not you offering up your christ (in every Nation and Country where you have power) which you make of your Bread and Wine? And without blushing falsely call yourselves Ministers of the True Christ, but you are the Ministers of that christ you make of Bread and Wine: So you make your Lord, your Christ, and your Host; and than you do offer him in every Country or Nation; and so you make many Thousands of gods and christs, and many thousand god and christ Host-makers you are, & many thousand Offerings ye offer up Yearly. But the True Christ is offered up Once for All, and not yearly: And this was the true Ministers of Christ's Doctrine, who denied the Yearly Sacrifices amongst the Jews, which Offerings Christ, the True Offering ends; and so Christ put away sin by the offering of himself; and so our Highpriest was not made by man, but he was begotten of God, who is made higher than the Heavens, and whom God did prepare a Body. And you make your body and blood of your Antichrist, and offer him up Yearly to deceive the People, and keep them in their sin, and then tell them of a Purgatory when they are Dead; GREAT DECEIVERS; and so you do the will of Devil, your god. But he that did the Will of the Living God (to wit, Jesus Christ) did it through the Offering up of his Body Once for All; and so there is an end of the Offerings, and your false ones, together with your christs, the workmanship of your own hands, which you have caused people to worship, both Small and Great; a Mark of the great Whore, see Rev. and Heb. 10. And you Papists, who say, you make the body and blood of your christ; and when that you have made it you say, people must not have the blood, but the body of your christ, you have made. If that this was the True Christ, as it is the False, than you keep all your Deceived People in Death, and from Life, and Faith, and Justification; For except they eat Christ's Flesh, and drink his Blood, they have no Life in them; and this comes down from above, and is not from below; as your blood and flesh, which you make of Bread and Wine; and so they must drink the Blood, as well as eat the Flesh of Christ, if they have Life: and they that do not drink his Blood, have not Life in Christ; for all the true Christians do drink his Blood, and have Life, and they are justified and cleansed with his Blood, and their Faith is in the Blood of Christ; and so all that have Life, Commune in both kinds; that is, They eat the Flesh of Christ, and drink his Blood, which no man can make, but it comes down from above. But you that are dead, and in Death, who have gotten the Name of Christians, and pretend to make a christ of flesh and blood, of bread and wine, which is but a Lie, yet you will not give your people your blood, which you have made of wine; and so according to your own doctrine your people are dead, if you do profess the Scripture; for Christ doth not separate the flesh from the blood, but the one must be received as the other; and Christ doth not limit it from any one, but did shed his Blood for all men; but this is your Cheat of Pope, Cardinals, and Priests, who love the Wine to drink it; and thus you do deceive your people. And also when you have made your lord, and host, and christ, you do adore him, and worship him, and reverence him and cause the people to do the same; and then when you have done, you do EAT up your GOD, HOST, LORD, and CHRIST, which you have adored, reverenced, and worshipped. Oh Deceit! This is worse than the Heathen; for never do you read in any Chronicle, that the Heathen did so Eat any of the Gods that they had made with their hands, as you have done; and thus you despise the true Christ, and confine him in the Creatures of Bread and Wine; all which (of your works) are for Judgement. G. THE END.