An additional Answer to a Pamphlet called A Remonstrance, written by Mr. George Lilburne, or to so much of it as concerns Thomas Saunders; Esquire.  
AND to so much of the Remonstrance of George Lilburne (styling himself Esquire, though it would puzzle a Herald to make it appear) as concerns Thomas Saunders, who (being Familiae Equestris on both sides for descents not a few, but Genus & proavos & quae non fecimus ipsi vix ea nostra voco-) may challenge to the like. I the said Thomas affirm and say▪ That Mr Lilburne hath not dealt with me as a Gentleman, who being by my late employment his equal, and he by his iterated professions my friend, confirmed again by a late visit at my house, where eating of my broth he (to borrow an old homely, but true proverb) now pisseth many dish, and asperseth me, (as maliciously, so untruly) for confederating with Mr Blaxton and Mr Colston (both whom it is not unknown he mortally loves) to cheat the State of above one thousand pounds. And (to that end) the hand of one Mr. John Duncalfe (saith her) was counter feited (to challenge me in person, he neither can nor dares, and therefore Dolose versatur in generalibus) to a three-handed Certificate, to make the Act valid. But to the particulars (or to so much as concerns me) I might say and answer, as once Sr John Salisbury did, to a voluminous and scandalous Bill in Star-chamber, That there was nothing therein to be found true, saving only his Defendants name. I say, it is true, that Mr Lilburne, myself, and others, sum veyed the mentioned Lands and Woods of Frankland. As true that we called (and impaneled too if he please) a Jury (some of them perhaps wiser than ourselves) of 15 men for our Assistants. But that they with us, surveyed the same upon Oath, who at any one time were never together with us on the said grounds, or examined all Writing and Records concerning the Manor, (as he affirms) is nothing true. And Mr Lilburne forgets that it is the part of Surveyors (of which every man so caded is not capable) to examine Writings and Records, and make Returns (proper) and not of Jurors, who are usually men of an inferior understanding and alloy To Mistress Blaxtons (as follows in his paper) coming to Mr Lilburn in her hasbands' name, and that by his means (desiring his favour) (observe only his, and that here was a particular application though not a confederacy) that a Right for Howsboot, Freeboot (he means Fireboot surely) might be returned as belonging to the Manor of Newton, for which no Evidence or Writing was (for the present) produced, and his answer thereto in the plural, that we (meaning the Surveyors) could do no such unjust act. Mr Lilburne may remember, that ●…aches were then made, and examinations taken, and that some of the July did aver they had lately seen such a Deed, and whereof use and fruit had been made and taken, for many years, to their own knowledge. And I believe Mr Lilburne would be loath to lose his rights, because he may (possibly since these times) have lost his evidences. And he may further remember, that some be then refused, for his rigidity in this and some other particulars (Mr Lilburnes old love to the parties whom it concerned) to set his hand to the whole Survey, although he might not untruly say, Hos ego versiculos feci, tulit alter honores. That Mistress Blaxton gave many upbraiding speeches to the rest of the Surveyors, is nothing so (there was no cause) or to Mr Lilburne himself that I remember. But this I remember, (and blushed for his sake) that he then shown himself to be rather the more woman of the two. As to the cheating of the State of above one thousand pounds by confederacy with Mr Colston and Mr Blaxton, with the last of whom to my knowledge) I had never exchanged syllable till long after the said Survey was returned, and till after the re-survey and the quarrelled defalcations were like wise returned; I say (and Mr Lilburne knows but wilfully suppresses it) that orders were sent to the Surveyors, commanding them to make and return whatsoever reprisals were due and issuing forth the saidlands, and to make up and return with all speed, surveys of other lands not formerly perfected. And he knows it will be proved to his face, That he was earnestly invited by Mr Colston and myself, further to act in and by the same Commission with us taken, in discharge of his duty to the public, as a Surveyor, which he utterly refused to do, for very fear, the Country then being full of troubles, and he not daring openly to adventure his so much (without any rival) beloved person. As to the Defalcations themselves, I willingly refer me to the Records, where it will appear that Mr Lilburne himself was guilty in returning of about 60. l. per annum Estates due by two several patents for life, issuing forth of the said lands (whereof one indeed of 42. l. 17. s. per annum, is his very friends. Others doubtless were returned on as solid grounds, viz. the late Bishop's Covenant per Indenture, to allow timber and wood for the repair and upholding of several Collieries & Mills during their leases. And these being all but for short continuance (though most justly to be allowed) will not amount to near the pretended sum. For the residue, allowed to the repairs of highways, and of several bridges upon two navigable rivers', it amounts to 35. l. per annum, which at 10. years' purchase is easily computed. Neither is there aught of this allowed, but upon proofs made by oaths, or custom known to all. And all this upon supposition. viz. if these allowances are to be made out of Frankland wood (as we know none other woods of the late Bishops now remaining and being fit for the said uses in all that part of the Country) but I refer, as I said, to the Records themselves, and am confident (and not without good grounds which I suppose by this time are well known) that Mr Blaxton, though the Defalcations be allowed to him, will willingly quit his Contract, & be contented that Mr Lilburn shall have the bargain; provided he will prove a better chapman for the State. See then the confederacy and cheat (by which sure I am, I am nothing enriched) of above ●000, l. and that malice seldom, if ever, speaks truth. But my charity compels me to hope (though some men doubt) that Mr George Lilburne will in no wise cheat the State of greater sums, which he as a Sequestrator (or Farmer to sequestrations by himself of his instruments) is thought to be accountant for. As to the counterfeiting or putting to Mr. Duncalfes' hand to a Certificate, (although it concerns not me who did it not, yet) I shall unfold that Riddle also for truth's sake; It is true that Mr. Duncalfe was not then present, but 50. miles distant upon other business of the State, when that Certificate was returned, but that his hand or name was thereto put by the command of one of his fellow-surveyors, to whom he gave power so to do, that the return might be made valid by having three hands thereto: Mr. Duncalfe hath often since averred, and approved of the return made, and hath (I think) lately given under his own hand, thereof an attestation. But if to set his brother-Surveyors hand being absent, (and not without his consent) to a Survey to make the same valid, be a crime, Mr Lilburn hath in his own knowledge (and others too) been shamefully abused (but I hope no cheat to the State) that hath had his hand and seal put to whole Surveys at which he never was, or at the most and best for a day or two, and that principally, to adorn a charge 
Chair . And I will be bold to aver and prove, that Mr. Lilburne hath not for an 120. l. received of the State, done them the service of 40 days (I may well abate ten of the number) upon all their surveys of Lands or Collieries, in which latter only, (and not without his own end) he is suspected to have good skill; and good reason, for once he was a Cole-filler himself, but now a Cole-owner. But I hope this is not in him to cheat (absit) but to do very good and dear service to the State. You see Longiori opus est morâ questionem ut solvas quam ut proponas. And that had it not been to answer M. Lilburn in his— (lest he should grow wise in his own conceit) I should hardly have been induced to be as himself is, a— in print.