The Pride of JORDAN SPOILED. Which Magnified itself against the LORD AND HIS PEOPLE. A Living TESTIMONY against THOMAS HICKS, And his Confederates Damnable heresy, Folly, subtlety, and Deceit, noted in his Third Book touching the Light in Man, with an Epistle in brief to all the Baptist People, and others, that they may all tome to Repentance, and to the knowledge of the Truth, and be saved in this the day of Gods great Love. HAving Demonstrated in a Treatise Printed in the Year 1672. Thomas Hicks his damnable heresy in a Book entitled, Damnable heresy Discovered: To which Thomas Hicks replied by way of Dialogue, Fool-like, for it's their Nature when one do touch them to fall on another, he falls on the whole Body of Friends scornfully called Quakers; and myself amongst them, as his first Dialogue testifieth; and instead of confessing his Errors and Folly, proceeds, charging me for saying things in my Book which are not in my Book, perverting my sayings, as his manner is, by adding words of his own to them, as may appear by his Book, and mine compared together; and to cover himself in this deceit; saith, that the Scripture is his Rule in Faith and practise; upon this I replied, when I saw his Book to manifest his Folly in Print, in a Second small Treatise, Printed in the Year 1673, &c. And now reading a Third Book of his, set forth by him by way of Dialogue, entitled, The Quaker condemned out of his own Mouth: In reading of this Book, I understanding thereby the controversy about the Light in Man, by him again revived, and denied to be God, or Christ, &c. But by him affirmed to be Man's Spirit; upon this I was moved by the Lord, who is a Living Witness to manifest his Folly and damnable heresy in order hereto, for the help of the weak understanding I shall proceep by way of particulars, and touchbriefly on each particular; and first, to the first: 1. Tho Hicks saith, that the Light in every man is man's Spirit, a Croature; that Man's Spirit is a Creature, I do confess; because the Holy Scripture testifieth to it, Esay 47.16. But that mans Spirit is the Light that convinceth the World of sin, as Tho. Hicks hath affirmed, that I do deny; and this is my first particular. 2. Tho. Hicks hath affirmed in his Third Book, p. 8, 9. that it ought to be obeied; this second particular also I do deny upon this account of being man's Spirit; but before I give my reason, Reader, Not, Tho. Hicks for his affirmation touching this particular, brings no Holy Scripture for confirmation, but his own private sayings; nor indeed, mark! no Holy Scripture given by Divine inspiration is, as Tho. Hicks his sayings are, &c. therefore let Tho. Hicks his affirmation be tried by Holy Scripture: and first to the first particular. He affirms the Light in every man that convinces them of sin, is man's Spirit; and yet brings no holy Scripture for confirmation of it; for as I said before, nor can he, nor no holy mans sayings for it, but his own saying: and yet saith the Scripture is his Rule in Faith and practise; therefore according to holy Scripture shall he be tried: Tho. stand to thy trial: Mark! It was the promise of the Father in the last dayes to pour out of his Spirit upon all Flesh, and saith, Christ when he is come, he shall convince the World of sin; if so, why should not this Light in all men that convinceth them of sin, be the promise of the Father, seeing that it doth the work which Christ foretold it should do, viz. convince the World of sin, as Scripture witnesseth; besides many thousands of the Lords People, that testify according to holy Scripture, that this is that Spirit that convinceth of sin, the promise of the Father; to which I testify, and have within these 18. Years nine times in Print gave a testimony, besides many suffering for it: if so, then why should not that judgement be given on Tho. Hicks as it is written, every tongue that rises up in judgement against thee thou shalt condemn: for he saith that the light in every man, which convinceth them of sin, is mans spirit: one witness more I shall produce, that it is the breath of the power of God, the brightness of the everlasting Light entering into holy souls in all ages: Mark, in all ages, makes them friends of God, and holy Prophets, Wisd. 7. Now Tho. Hicks to me hath said, that the breath God breathed into Adam was mans spirit, the light in every man, &c. Mark, the breath God breathed into Adam, by which man came to be a living soul, my testimony is, was the Creating spirit; for it is written, by the breath of the Lord were the Heavens made, and all the host of them: therefore it cannot be mans spirit; because, as Scripture testifieth, mans spirit was a created spirit, and called a Candle; but the Creating spirit is the light that lights it, as Scripture witnesseth: therefore according to holy Scripture, Tho. Hicks, this is thy sentence: Thee and thy confederates are found liars, Deut. 33.29. Now I shall touch upon the second Particular: Thou hast affirmed that the Light within is mans Spirit, and that it ought to be obeied: that it ought to be obeied, is thy second Particular. Thou art to take notice of, on the trial; that thou hast so said, thy third Dialogue testifieth, page. 8, 9. this I do deny, for these Reasons following. 1. Thou thyself confesseth that Mans Spirit is a Creature, as thy Books will testify; and now, according to thy own saying shall thy Sentence be: In a public Dispute with me before many witnesses, thou saist the Quakers were idolaters, and that thou wouldest prove; the way that then thou tookest to prove them was thus: The Light in Man is a Creature: the Quakers Worship the Light within: now to Worship a Creature, is Idolatry, saist thou, and breaking Gods Commandments. I confess, if the light within be a Creature, thou hast said right: but it's proved, according to holy Scripture, that it is a Creating Spirit, no Creature therefore, thou art found a liar according to thy own words, and a blasphemer of the Lords People, &c. and not only so, but also a private bringer in of Damnable heresy, as may appear, thus the holy Scriptures testify, that John bore witness to the Truth; the same John testifieth, that was the true Light which lighteth every man that cometh into the world, and Christ saith, I am the Light of the world; and the Spirit testifieth, that he which trieth the Reins and Hearts, is he that was dead, and is alive, pointing to, and speaking of Christ, who gave his Life a Ransom for all, in tasting Death for every man; by this means many came by Christ to be bought: Now, Tho. Hicks, thou art one that Christ bought, as is before noted, and thou art one that denies the Lord that bought thee, in denying the Light within to be Christ, &c. and this is the Reason why I have charged thee with damnable heresy, &c. thou sayest in thy book before noted, speaking of the Light within, upon the account of it to be mans spirit, that it ought to be obeied, which if on that account of being mans spirit, then according to thy own sayings, thou wouldst cause the People to be Idolaters, and not only so, as Scripture testifieth, thou wouldst led the People to be foolish, and see nothing, as may appear thus, mans spirit is but a Candle singly considered, which of itself so considered gives no light; if so, then they that follow it, as it is written, Ezek. 13.3. see nothing; such was the state of the foolish Prophets of Israel, and such is. and will be the state of all that follow thy Doctrine, to wit, foolish and see nothing; for thou hast said the Light within is mans spirit, and it ought to be obeied: again. this thy saying tends privately to bring out of order man, as Scripture witnesseth: for the God of Order, by virtue of himself, hath ordered man to have dominion over his own spirit: It is written, the spirit of the Prophets are subject to the Prophets, and the wise King saith, he that hath not power over his own spirit, is like a City without Walls, or broken down, Prov. 25.28. 1 Cor. 14.32. Again, mans spirit is the weak part, hence it is that the Prophet Malachi, Chap. 2. calls it she: Mark! He calls it she, and saith, take heed to your spirits and let none deal traitorously against the wise of his Youth: Mark! when men which have Dominion by virtue of the Lord over their spirits, lets in the motion of Satan into them, then it comes by the Devil, to be Imprisoned, through mans treacherous dealings with it, who had power over it, and then Death reigneth and hath Dominion over it, as it's written over them that sinneth, death hath dominion over both the man and his spirit because of disobedience to the Lord and man is under the dominion of sin, & Satan and would remain so it Christ did not now as in the dayes of old, preach to the spirits in prison to the bringing them out of the prison House by his power out of the pit wherein there is no water: of this I am a witness, Glory be to God for ever, Zach. 9.11. By what is written may appear through the manifestation of Gods spirit what a sad state Tho. Hicks would led men into by learning of them to obey the light within on the account of mans spirit: therefore as the wise King saith, cease to hear the instructions that causeth to err from the words of knowledge, Prov. 19.27. for Tho. Hicks denys the light in every man to be God or Christ, and affirms the light in every man is mans spirit: this privately ministereth occasion where it is Received to believe that there is but two spirits in all the world, viz. the Spirit of Man, which he calls the light in every man, and the spirit of the Devil, No God in them: for saith he in his first Book entitled A Dialogue between a Christian and a Quaker, p. 3. but if thou saist saith he, the light in every man is Christ and God, I do not only deny it, but charge it with Blasphemy. Mark! In this his saying, he hath belied himself as may appear thus, the Scripture is his rule in Faith and Practise, as he saith, and yet upon so high concernment as the mystery of God in man is, to whom the Prophets give their testimony to, he hath denied; and not only so, but blasphemously chargeth the Faith of Gods Elect, with blasphemy without bringing any Scripture as a reason for it: therefore I say, in saying the Scripture is his Rule in Faith and Practise, he hath belied himself. By what is written may appear, that on him and his Confederates is come what is noted in the Scriptures, Of truth the enemies of the Lord shall be found liars, Deut. 33.29. the portion of liars you may red Rev. 21.8. I testify from the Lord in the joy of my soul, that the time is come, and coming, that Saviours are upon Mount Sion, to judge the mount of Esau, and the Kingdoms shall be the Lords, as he hath spoken by Obadiah. Amen. A few words in love to the Congregration of the baptized People in the devices, whom I love in the Truth, when met together to be red and confiderd amongst them, and also by all sorts of people, to satisfy them that do question whether the Light, who is the Lord, is in men before they do believe. Friends, In my old years I have this love for you all, I beseech you consider these three Particulars following. 1. Whether you are Converted unto the Lord, yea, or no. 2. If you think that you are Converted to God, whether that the Lord was in you before you were Converted, and that he was the Author of that work. 3. If he was, what was that Spirit that wrought that work in you, if not the Light. God and Christ is Light and Spirit, as Scripture witnesseth; and as in days of old he did, so now in us he hath, and doth work all our works in us, Isa. 26.12. and we by him only make mention of his name, v. 13. before Conversion he was within us, calling to us, for the gifts, and calling of God are without Repentance, Rom. 11.29. and it was in order to it; therefore Repentance is said to be the gift of God, Acts 5.31. 2 Tim. 2.7, &c. The cause why I have thus written to you is, I am jealous over you with a godly jealousy that you are not Converted, or you have forgotten the Lord that did Convert you, if ever you were Converted; for we that are Converted unto God, do know of a truth that the Gift and Covenant of God, Christ Jesus, the Light of the World, according to Gods Promise, as Scripture witnesseth, was in us, enlightening of us before we did believe, in order to our Repentance toward God and Faith towards our Lord Jesus Christ, &c. so that now we are Witnesses that the Lord was in us before Conversion, but we knew him not at that time; and now being Converted to that which may be known of God in us doth testify, that that which may be known of God is now, as in times past, manifested within, Rom. 1.19. Luke 17.21. even the eternal Power and God-head. And this Treasure we have now in earthen Vessels, as they had in times past: as it is written, 2 Cor. 4.7. consider of it, for my prayer to God is that you may all come to Repentance, and to the knowledge of the Truth, that so you may be saved by the Lord, and not always resist his holy Spirit, and tread under foot the blood of Gods Covenant, which is the Life of Jesus, wherewith we are sanctified. I say again, consider of it, and the great God, who is Light, give you all understanding in this the day of his love; for the Lords Spirit will not always strive with men, nor stir in me to writ to you, &c. Friends, take heed of being in Confederacy with Tho. Hicks, and his Party; lest whilst you are pursuing the Quakers to prove them no Christians, you yourselves are found to be no true Converts. Farewell. Notations to considered. An unconverted state is a perishing state, Luke 13.3. Not to know Christ in one is reprobate state, 2 Cor. 13.5. To deny Christ come in the flesh is an Antichristian state, 2 John v. 7. To deny the Lord that bought one is damnable heresy, &c. 2 Pet. 2.1. I have marveled that Professors should be against perfection, attained in this life, until the Lord declared to me, that they that deny the light within to be Christ, should die in their sins, as it is written, and although a hundred years old should be accursed, Isa. 65.20. Now if any Reader should think, touching so weighty a matter, that this is but a short Treatise, know, the time is come that a short work will the Lord make in righteousness in the earth. Written by Robert West in the Devizes on the 23d day of the 4th Month 1674 Postscript. Notations. 1. Tho Hicks hath belied the Lord, in saying the light in every man is not Christ, contrary to Johns witness, and the Testimony of Jesus, John P. 9. oh. 8.12. 2. He hath belied the Spirit of Promise, in saying the spirit that convinceth the world of sin is mans spirit, contrary to the witness of Christ, John 6.14. 3. He hath belied mans Spirit, in saying the light in every man that Convinceth them of sin is mans spirit, for mans spirit is but the Candle, and they that follow it see nothing, Prov. 20. 27. Job 21.17. Ezek. 13.3. 4. He hath belied the breath God breathed into Man, by which Man became a Living soul, in that he hath said it's mans spirit, for the breath God breathed into man, as the wise King saith, is his wisdom, the brightness of the everlasting Light, as before is noted, and shall consume the man of sin, Wisd. 7.25. Isa. 11.4. 2 Thes. 2.8. Lam. 4.20. Gen. 2.7. 5. He hath belied the Lords People, whom the World in scorn calls Quakers, in saying they are Idolaters, and breakers of Gods Commands, because they worship the Light within, as they were, saith he, that worshipped the Sun, Dialogue 1. p. 46. 6. He hath belied himself, in saying the Scripture is his Rule in Faith and practise, for he hath denied the Light within that trieth the Reins and Heart to be God and Christ, to which the Scripture witnesseth, Col. 1.27. Rev. 2.23. Now they that are ruled by the power of God, believes, and are ruled according to holy Scripture in Faith, and practise, &c. 7. He hath belied me in giving a false Relation, touching what I said in my book, as may appear by his first Dialogue, pag. 5. compared to that Book he alludes to of mine: saith, R. W. a Quaker published a Pamphlet entitled Damnable heresy discovered; wherein he arreigneth, and condemneth as guilty of damnable heresy, viz. the denying to worship the measure of light in every man: this saying is false: it was because he denied the light in every man which convinceth them of sin to be the Lord, &c. 8. I charge him for a supected lie, he saith many Quakers that red this particular in my book condemns it, and censures the Person that asserted it: this I suspect to be a lie, because there is no such Particular in that book to red, viz to worship the measure of light in every man, the word measure of Light is not in all the Book, &c. Mark! Tho. Hicks saith in his first Dialogue, pag. 53. He that shall give a false relation of another mans assertion, such a man is false and deceitful. Again, in his first book page. 74. he hath belied me in saying, that I say, it is damnable heresy to say Christ was not actually exhibited in the time of Moses: these are his sayings, not mine, upon his affirming that whilst Christ was figured out in Types, he was not actually in being. I said he was Antichrist, because, as Scripture witnesseth, Christ by his Spirit Preached in the days of Noah to the spirits that sometimes were disobedient, and was in the Church in the Wilderness, &c. It is written, a heretic is condemned of himself, Titus 3.11. Finally, what is written may appear that Tho. Hicks, according to his own saying, is a heretic, and hath mortally wounded his own design, which was to make voided the light in every man, by his denying it to be the true light which John bore witness to, and to prove the Quakers to be idolaters, and to be no Christians. This was by him designed as, by all his three Books, may appear; and to this his design: he hath, I say again, given a Mortal wound in saying the Light in every man is a Creature, and ought to be obeied, Dialogue 3. p. 8, 9. So on him is come, as is noted in Scriptures of truth: I say again this note an heretic condemns himself, Tit. 3.11. who is after the first and second admonition to be rejected, by what is written may appear is come upon him and his Confederates the wicked are ensnared in the works of his own hands, the Heathen is sunk down in the pit they made, in the Net they hide is their own Foot taken, Psal. 9. Glory be to God for ever, and for ever, who hath manifested it, and let all Gods People say Amen. Selah. One thing more I will desire the Reader to take notice of; One of Tho. Hicks his Confederates a teaching man, on his understanding I coming for London to give a Testimony against the afore said heresy, said, Now the Maggot moveth, because I said I was moved of the Lord to manifest his folly, thus he speaks evil of the Lord and his People, for his words are against others besides myself; surely as it's written, the pride of Jordan is spoyled, Zach. 11.3. I say again, the pride of Jordan is spoiled, who thought to make voided the Light in man to be of God or Christ, by denying of it. 2. To make voided the Faith of Gods Elect by charging of it with Blasphemy. 3. To bring in contempt the Children of the Light, by saying that they which worship the Light within are idolaters, and breakers of Gods Command, and that they were no Christians: by what is written may appear, that Tho. Hicks, and his Confederates are but water Christians, no true Converts, for they that were converted unto God, were baptized into Christ, who was in them the hope of Glory, a quickening spirit; he that hath an ear to hear let him hear. Thus I have born my testimony for the Lord, and against deceit, and in so doing I have cleared my Conscience, and am free from the Blood of all men. Written by Robert West in the Year 1674. FINIS.