ONE Warning more TO THE BAPTISTS BEFORE Their Day be wholly spent and the Night cover them, in which no man can work for God, which the Lord moved me to write, or else I should have been silent for ever. With a short Answer to a Book of Matthew Caffin's one of their Teachers, in Horsham in Sussex, Entitled, Faith in Gods Promises the Saints best Weapons. With many Queries also for them to Answer. Also my desire is, that all that read it would send it to them that they may see how they are degenerated from their first Love, and are now fight against the Light of the Day, that did formerly shine more clear in their Hearts, than now it doth, being shadowed over with that which must perish and come to an end. Written by one that hath sat under those shadows with them, but hath now found the day, in which all shadows fly away. HUMPHREY WOLRICH. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God, then was there no shadow of death, or covering over the Life. LONDON, Printed for Robert Wilson, at the Sign of the Black-spread-Eagle and Windmill in martin's Le Grand, 1661. Where are the wise? LEt them be confounded for ever, and vexed by a foolish people; all the disputers of the world where are they? let their mouths be stopped for evermore, let Christ speak, and his Eternal Spirit, as in the days past, and him that spoke in all his Prophets, who is the same yesterday and for ever, let him speak; and all keep silence, even him whose words are Spirit and Life, which the fleshly mind and carnal mind (that can neither hear nor perceive the things that he speaks) be silent before the Lord for ever, and all blind guides that are setting up the shadow instead of the substance, and things that are seen with a carnal and visible eye above those things that are eternal, everlasting, and are not seen but with another eye, nor heard but only with the ear that can hear what the Spirit saith, let this be a warning and a charge from the Lord to you all, that ye stop your mouths in the dust for ever; let the wife be mad, and the disputer, and the contradictious blasphemer's tongue cleave to the roof of his mouth for ever, the eye is open that runs thorough the earth, and the hand is stretched out against you all, that is everlasting, and ye are weighed in an even balance, and found as light as a thing of nought; you and all your wisdom is comprehended as in a span, and your Mountain will the Lord thresh with the new threshing instrument, and lay it waste for ever. There is a way that the Vulturous eye hath not seen, and a path that the fierce Lion's whelp hath not trodden in, a way of Holiness is it for ever, it is the same that changeth not for ever, known is it to the righteous, and the redeemed walk in it for ever, and the ransomed of the Lord from generation to generation; Now are the Dogs angry for want of the children's bread, and the Swine that are feeding on the busks would devour the pearl, and are fight against them that have found it, and cannot feed them therewith, now are their mouths filled with lies and slanders, and their tongues set on fire of hell, the poison of Asps is in their hearts, the way of Truth they have not known, there is no fear of God before their eyes, therefore is the Lord God, the Almighty God risen against all fighters, swearers & liars, and he will dash to pieces their Idols, and all that rise up against him; the Lord hath spoken it, righteousness shall Reign, and Truth shall be established in the earth; and Christ the corner Stone (rejected of the Builders, abhored of the Nations and despised of men) will he set a top of all; he that hath been rejected, shall be exalted on high, and break down all Images, and confound all likenesses, the Mouth of the Lord hath spoken it; he will turn all but his own glory into shame, and take the Sons of Nimrod that hunted mightily before the Lord in their own net, and all the Children of Babylon, in the work of their own hands will he confound, he will exalt the Life and Power, and darken all shadows, and break the forms with the brightness of his rising, and rend the Veil, and destroy the Covering that hath covered the Mercy Seat; for I have seen the place of Righteousness and Transgression is there, and Satan is exalted, and the abomination sitteth as God in his Temple, where he ought not; also I have seen the place of Justice, and Iniquity hath been there, this have I seen in the everlasting day in which all shadows fly away, which is dawned in the Hearts of his Chosen, in whom he is become a Leader and an Instructor in all Righteousness, as in the days of old a Saviour and a Redeemer, as in the Generations past. This is the Lord who saith, I am the Lord, and besides me there is no Saviour, he is become a hiding place indeed, a shelter and a hiding place to the weary, a covering that is not too narrow is his Spirit become; therefore are the children of old Adam only with the Name of Christ, covering themselves with the shadow instead of the substance, and clothing themselves with their fig-leave forms, having lost the image of him who is the Substance, Life, Virtue and Goodness of all shadows, the end and the Finisher of them all, the first and the last, who was and is from everlasting to everlasting, the Substance of all Virtue, Life and Goodness of all to his people, in all ages was he the same and changed not, he was & is & is to come to all that know him, the Rock of Ages, and the Christ in the Wilderness which followed them, he is a Teacher, Leader and Guide to his People for ever, he is a Horn of Salvation for ever, he is the beginner and the end of all that is good, the Author and Finisher of the Faith of his people in all Generations, in this Generation is he the same, and in his people doth he fulfil the Righteousness of the Law, as in the Generations past, Rom. 8.4. Mark (in us) all ye that are speaking of Justification by a Christ a far off, who ye never saw, and of Faith in his Promises, whom ye never heard, but are yet dead in your sins; Now do ye rage's and fill your mouths with venom, because Babylon is falling and your kingdom departing; Now do you cast out your floods of wickedness to drowned the Manchild, that will rule you all and vex you in his sore displeasure, (mark) the Child is born, the Sun is known, that in the days of the Prophets was born, and given unto them, Abraham saw his day and rejoiced, and heard his voice and was glad, this is he and he doth not change, though to blind man he appears not the same; and all the Prophets and Righteous men heard his voice, and he wrought all their works in them & for them, and saved his people from their sins, & took away the shadowand destroyed death, and ransomed them from the power of the grave, and did such works in them & for them as never man ever did, is not this the very Christ? yea this is he, and besides him there is no Saviour, neither do I look for another; he opens the blind eye, and the deaf ear he causeth to hear, he makes the dumb to speak, and the lame to walk, he opens the heart to discipline, and commandeth man to departed from iniquity, he saith, and it cometh to pass, as ever; the Winds and the Sea doth he rebuke, and still the proud Waves thereof, as in the Generations past, this is the Lords doing, and in my eyes very marvellous, this is his Name and his Memorial (the Lord our Righteousness) throughout all Generations, this is he that saith, I am the Lord and change not, that is my Name, and besides me there is no Saviour; let all Disputers of this World be confounded before him whose way is everlasting, that sitteth upon the Floods, and walketh on the Sea as on dry land, and the waters sink not under him, that turneth the darkness into light, and the day light into the shadow of death; let all the wise to do evil and oppose him, be made mad for ever, and let them not find an arm to help them that cannot see the Arm of God's Salvation, but are comparing the Holy One of Israel (the Immanuel) to and with themselves, and likening the invisible and incorruptible Redeemer of the invisible and immortal soul unto corruptible man, that are setting up the letter instead of the eternal quickening Spirit that giveth life, that sees not a difference betwixt the flesh that profiteth not, and the flesh that is the life, and if I say the Saviour of the World, I lie not, between the word that doth wash, cleanse and purify the Hearts of the Saints, and was like a hammer and a fire in Jeremiah, and in all the Prophets, and is the same and changes not in all Generations, which word they heard and believed in it, and therefore spoke, and the Word that the Apostles did feel, taste, hear and handle, which was in the beginning with God, and was God, and this is the Saviour of the World, and besides him there is not another, but ye being blind cannot perceive him that took Flesh upon him, and had a Body prepared to do the will of him that set him; if thou hast an ear to hear or an eye to perceive, this is he that descended, and the same that ascended far above all Heavens into the bosom of the Father, and sitteth on the right hand on the Majesty on high, and is glorified with the same Glory that he had with the Father before the world began, this is a mystery, if thou canst receive it thou art happy. But may not I say as once was said to the men of Galilee, Why stand ye gazing? Why are you seeking the Living among the Dead? Is not he the Resurrection? And is there any life in any other? Is not this he that is the eternal and everlasting day in which ye ought to walk? And out of the Bosom of the Father did he not proceed, and was one with him, who saith, This is my beloved Son, hear Him? And the Holy Ghost did appear in the likeness of a Dove, yet was not a Dove; so say I, and my say are faithful and true, Christ the Saviour of the World came in the likeness of sinful flesh, and took upon him the form of a Servant, yet was he not sinful flesh, but the eternal Son of God, which was begotten of the Spirit and is Spirit; there is a Spiritual Body, and there is a natural Body, there is a corruptible and there is an incorruptible Body, but this is a mystery to the World; in a few words, time would fail me to declare his Generation to the uttermost, I may say that which I have seen of him; Oh the depth and height, length and breadth of his unsearchable riches and wisdom, and how in all generations he hath been to his people an infinite treasure, a boundless fountain, and an everlasting stream of goodness, life, virtue, peace, and pure satisfaction in all generations, who was before all, the Author, Creator, and Maker of all, in whom was Life, and he is not changed, but in him is life eternal, peace everlasting, and satisfaction eternally, and his life runs through all, discerns and beholds all, and shines in the darkness, and none can flee from him, neither is there any darkness nor shadow of death where the worker of iniquity can hid himself from his dreadful hand, that it should not find him out; though man being in the first birth, and born blind, and a transgressor from his mother's womb, doth not see nor comprehend the Light that hath enlightened him, though it shine in his heart, and doth convince all, and reprove all of their ungodly deeds, and hard speeches, that they have wickedly spoken against the Lord; yea, and it will condemn thee Matthew Caffin, for all thy ungod like and unchristianlike lies and slanders cast upon the people whom the Lord hath blessed, and chosen for his peculiar treasure, even thee in whom the Father of lies ruleth, and his works are wrought in thy wicked heart, out of which cometh slanders and lies abundantly, and them thou dost invent thyself, and call'st them the Quakers errors when thou hast done, whose foundation and principle thou knowest not, but speakest evil of that which thou art a stranger unto, & though thou talkest of faith, & of being a Christian indeed, which thou sayest few do attain unto, yet art thou one of the vain disputers of the world, & like Cain art wounding and shooting thy arrows against the innocent, and like Ishmael art scorning the Lord's people, saying, the Quakers saith, turn to the light within; this was Paul's Commission and the Quakers work, which in this world they have to do, this was the Prophet's work, and John's message, to turn people from darkness to the light, and from the Power of Satan to God, Act. 26.18. and 1 John 5. and Paul saith, it was the Light that shone in the heart which must give them the knowledge of the glory of God; and John said, the anointing which was in them, that was truth and nolye, taught them all things, and with this anointing or unction they were to try the false Spirits; though thou scornest at the Quakers, because their message is to turn people to the light, and though it be true that the light within was sufficient (and it is the same and changeth not) to all the Fathers which died in the faith to save them from all sin, and redeem them out of all tribulation, and in which Light they walked with God, who is the Fountain and Father of Lights, and they were translated from death to life before ever the Scriptures were written, which thou sayest is the rule to walk by, though the Scriptures do not say any such thing, but another, that the Sons of God were both ruled and led by the Spirit of God, and though we do say and testify these things as the faithful and true say of God, and as John did bear witness of him so do we, that he is the true light that lighteth every man that cometh into the world, yet those things as thou hast wickedly and maliciously laid them down, as our principles were never spoken nor owned by us, neither do we slight the Scriptures at all, but own them as they are and aught to be owned, yet Christ the light the bright and the morning Star, that is the same and changes not, but spoke in all the Prophets, the eternal arm and power of the Father to Salvation we say is not changed, but is able to save now without the Scriptures, as before they were written; so this is not to make void the Scriptures at all, which do declare what was the Judge of the Spirits, and Saints rule in all ages, their guide, and what was the wisdom and power of God to the salvation of their souls, and as the Prophets and holy men found them to be in themselves, and as this Spirit did inspire them and gave them utterance, so they spoke of him as his People do in the same spirit in this age; now this is only to set Christ the Eternal Son of God above all visible things, and the chief corner stone in his place where it ought to be; and therefore the bvilders of Babylon and children of confusion, which are setting him at nought, and cannot see the hidden treasure which is bread indeed, nor look any further than the things that are earthly, in whom the treasure and life is hid, and are feeding upon the husks and shadows with the Swine, are now condemning them that have been in those carnal Ordinances and washings, but could never find the pearl in them, where it was not to be found, but now having found him that is living which is not among those dead things, but only to be found in Spirit, we leave those things behind us, and go on to perfection, and look no longer at the things that are seen which are temporal, but at those things that are not seen, but in that Light which is eternal, which whilst we look at and believe in, we have strong consolation and confidence in him that is our hope, and purifies our hearts; as he doth arise he doth also condemn fin in the heart, and destroy the Devils work where it hath been wrought, which is yet standing in thy heart, and in the hearts of all Liars, and false accusers, who are speaking evil of those things they understand not, but as a natural bruit beasts, wherein they defile themselves as thou hast done, it doth finish sin in us, and makes an end of transgression, and brings in, and us into his everlasting righteousness, which is by faith in his blood; but the blind will be blind still, and cannot see any blood but that which doth not wash the heart, nor sprinkle the Conscience from dead works, nor know any, nor believe in any Resurrection but that which doth not give the answer of a good Conscience towards God; I say, if thou canst receive it, and believe in him who is the Resurrection, thou mayest, but if otherwise, thou shouldst die in thy sins, and pine away in thy transgressions, and then Christ is not risen to thy advantage but condemnation, if thou art yet in thy sins. Therefore thou Hypocrite who art hipt from the Light, and climbed above the door of the sheep, who is the incorruptible and eternal Light, and he only it is that gives an entrance into the Kingdom that is incorruptible, eternal, and fadeth not away. But many have been setting up another Saviour than he that saves his people from their sins, and therefore have his Servants been imagining of a kingdom, power and glory that is of this fading world, and therefore instead of harkening to the light and innocent Lamb which faith, My Kingdom is not of this world, if it were my Servants would fight; therefore such who have rejected the word of the Lord (which word is Light) as thou dost, and scornest the Quakers for walking in it, they have betaken themselves to carnal weapons, and gone from the Spiritual weapon, which is the Light, and have sought for a Kingdom that is of this world, and so in their imaginations have set up both a visible Saviour and Kingdom. Therefore try thyself whether thou art in that faith which the just lives by, and purify the heart that comes to see the pure God, if not, thou art but a reprobate concerning the faith that is a mystery held in a pure Conscience, which was once delivered or given to the Saints, neither shalt thou ever have the witness in thyself of thy rejoicing, as many that have been in thy dark and blind condition never had, until they were turned to the Light in their Consciences, but now can through mercy and grace that is poured out upon his offspring testify (to his glory and praise everlastingly be it given to him alone who doth the work in us and for us) that in the same place where it hath been said unto us, ye are not my people, there are we called the Children of the living God; at this may the Serpent catch that is cursed of the Lord, but own it if thou canst, it is thy condemnation in that state thou art in, eternally thou shalt witness it true, except thou repentest. A little I shall reason with thee concerning thy principle, what some of thy brethren which thou and they have affirmed in dispute. First, thou say est the eternal Spirit is not the Saviour of the world, but the man Christ Jesus that died and was a body which the Apostles handled outwardly. Answ. Did not Christ say who is that Spiritual Rock who saved Abraham and the Fathers before that body was, into thy hands Father I commend my Spirit; and then did he not give up the Ghost and died? and when the eternal Spirit did ascend to the Father, was not the body dead without the Spirit, and lay in the Sepulchre until the same Spirit and power of the Father raised it again? is your confidence in the flesh or in the Spirit and power that quickened the dead? do ye believe the Scriptures are true, which say, he ever liveth, and is the same yesterday to day and for ever, I in the Father, and the Father in me? or do ye believe there was no Saviour before he was born in Bethlehem? who was it then in whom Abraham believed? or who did the Prophet speak of when he saith unto us a child is born, unto us a Son is given? or what dost thou in thy dark mind imagine the Prophet meaneth, when he saith, his name shall be called wonderful Counsellor, the mighty God, the everlasting Father, the Prince of peace? Isa. 9.6. and what was the Hypocrites and Pharisees angry with Christ for, as thou art with us? was it not because he said he was the son of God, and before Abraham Thou sayest Christ is not come the second time to you, or to any upon the earth. My answer is, Did not the Saints know Christ after the flesh some time, and said they desired to know him so no more? what dost thou imagine his second appearance to be? was it not without sin unto salvation? and did not they witness this, that he was in them, and they in him, which saved their souls from sin? and were they not kept perfect and pure by the anointing and power which thou wrangleft against, so that the wicked one touched them not? dost thou know what salvation is, or the image and state is in which man was created, which thou fightest against, and sayest none can come into in this life, if this be not it which the Saints did witness, in whom he was glorified with the same glory he had with the Father before the world began? and whether they were not come to it which said, as sin hath abounded, so grace and truth which came by Jesus Christ did much more abound? Also ye say Christ was never crucified but once. My answer is, Christ was crucified at Jerusalem; but what private interpretation wilt thou give to these Scriptures, Gal. 3.1. whether such fools as thou and the Galatians were who were gone from the Spirit? and doth not Paul say Jesus Christ was evidently crucified amongst them? were they not such as turned against the Light which had enlightened them who were become a spiritual Sodom? did not these crucify to themselves afresh, and put him to open shame, Heb 6.6. Though thou sayest the eternal Spirit hath no blood, I say it is because thou never sawst it, nor witnessed the blood of the everlasting Covenant to sprinkle thy Conscience, therefore dost thou thus deny it and tread it under thy feet. Again ye affirm, that neither Peter nor Paul, Abraham, Isaac, nor Jacob were redeemed out of the curse, neither were they in the Kingdom of God. My answer to you is, God is not the God of the dead but of the living, and such as were lively stones did say they sat in heavenly places in Christ Jesus, Eph. 1.3. Eph. 2.6. And Peter saith an entrance was ministered abundantly into the kingdom of Jesus Christ; and Paul saith he was wrapped up into the third heavens; but thou that art in the Kingdom of darkness wilt tread upon this, as thou sayest thou dost, upon the Quakers principle, for which cause thyself shall be trodden in the winepress of God's wrath. Again ye deny that Christ is a Spirit; To which I say, God is a Spirit, and that which is born of him is Spirit; and I query of thee what Christ thou ownest, whether he that enlighteneth every man, or another? and what body was that which thou sayest ascended, and now sitteth at the right hand on the Majesty on high? was it he that first descended, and came out from God, or another? seeing the Scripture saith, if thou wilt not deny it, or say in thy dark mind who art a Teacher, as Nicodemus who was a Ruler in Israel, concerning regeneration, and the way of the Spirit, how can these things be? when Christ told him a man must be born again; he was as blind, yet I dare not say so wicked as thou, for he came to Jesus by night, he said can a man that is old enter into his mother's womb and be born again? if this be not thy state send me an answer, and tell me if thou be able, who was that spoken of, John 1.10. He was in the world and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not, he came to his own and they received him not, but as many as did receive him received power to become the sons of God, which were born not of the corruptible but of the incorruptible seed, neither were they born of the will of the flesh, Mark, nor as thou art, but of God and the immortal seed which liveth and abideth for ever. Again, I ask thee who was that which descended, and what is it? seeing the Scripture saith Eph. 4.10. he that descended is the same that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things, dost thou believe that the Jews did not look upon Christ, who had eyes, and saw him not to be as very a blasphemer as thou judges the Quakers? John 3.13. no man hath ascended up to Heaven but he that came down from Heaven; mark, was not this a strange word to them, and will it not be as strange to thee? had not thy Father taught thee to wrest the words of truth to thy own destruction; even the Son of man which is in Heaven, was not the Saviour of the world without Father, without Mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days nor end of life? was not this the Son of God, who is King of Righteousness, and after that King of Peace, Heb. 6.3. and had not the body which the Jews nailed to the Cross a beginning, or was it from all eternity? and was that visible body and form which he took upon him, was that the form and image of the invisible God? and was that the first born in every Creature? and were all things made by that visible body? and was that body before all things? and do all things consist by it, or hath Christ two Bodies? seeing the Scripture saith, Christ is not divided, and though there be many Members and Branches, yet is there but one Body or Vine. Again you Baptists say, Its Blasphemy to say all that which was spoken by Christ, Mat. 2.24. was fulfilled in that Generation; might not thou as well and as truly call Christ a Blasphemer, as thy Brethren the unbelieving Jews did, as to charge the Quakers with Blasphemy for speaking the very same thing and witnessing it to be true which he did speak, Mat. 24.34. Verily, verily, I say unto you, this Generation shall not pass until all these things be fulfilled, Heaven and Earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away; can thy earthly heart believe this? nay, nay, the world by wisdom knows not it, no nor the Angels of Heaven, but he to whom the Angels must bow knoweth it right well; our God is risen of a certain Truth, he will do a work in this Generation, a marvellous work and a Wonder, even the God of the despised Quakers shall work; and who shall let him? he will triumph over Palestine, & over Edom and Amaleck will he cast his shoe, Moab shall be his wash-pot, the humble shall hear thereof and be glad, Kings shall melt away, Princes shall be as a thing of naught, he will exalt his horn, his strength is as the strength of a Unicorn, in the house of David is his Sceptre known, and his dwelling place is become great in Israel, eternal God, King of Kings, and Lord of Lords is his Name thoughout all Generations, Kings shall hear of him and submit themselves, Princes shall be turned aside by the brightness of his rising, who is the Resurrection and the life, who comprehends the Heavens and the Earth with a span, and lays up the Sea as in store houses, this is our God, the living and true God which you Baptists are fight against. What was Paul's & the Saints Weapons, I query of you Baptists? and what was his Armour which he and the Saints put on? was it not the Lord Jesus Christ the Light, who is called a Helmet of Salvation and the Sword of the Spirit? Is it not the Word of God which is Light, unto which word Paul did commit the Saints, and told them it was able to keep them from falling? Or do you imagine the Letter to be the Armour of Righteousness, which I say doth but only declare of them? Is your faith begotten by the Preaching of the dead letter, which the Jews thought to have eternal Life in, or by the Preaching of the Gospel which is the eternal Word of God, which was Preached to Abraham, and which was and is and is to come, a Preacher of Righteousness in all Generations, and which the Apostle saith Was Preached to every Creature under Heaven where the Scripture is not known nor heard of? but this light which you Baptists trample on, I say all have so heard, so as to be convinced thereby though not saved, because they have not obeyed; but as the Apostle saith, so say I, by the same Spirit and Faith, Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by this Word of God; the Jews had not this Word and Faith, and therefore fought against the Life as ye do, but the Light within they could not endure no more than you, but hated it; Therefore said Christ, Ye shall die in your sins, except ye believe that I am he; the Light is the eye, in which Abraham saw his day, and by which I will guide my people, saith the Lord; What is that eye that must be made blind, and that hand that must be cut off? Is it not the eye that sees not the Son, and therefore is not satisfied? And was not this eye in Herod, which is the eye of the adulterer, and hunteth for the precious Life? And was not this life in Esau who miss the Blessing, and in Nimrod, and in all the Children of confusion who are hunting mightily before the Lord without the Spirit, who is the Lord and should lead you by the Fountains of living Water, and feed you with the Living Bread of Heaven, which Living Bread you are seeking among the Graves and Tombs, dead forms, & carnal Ordinances, which I say with J. Fuce, makes nothing perfect, but Christ the better Hope, who doth thoroughly walk and reform, change and translate out of death into Life, out of darkness into Light, out of Satan's power and kingdom into God's Power and Kingdom as the Saints were; and is not this the same state that Adam was created in, who was the Son of God, before either Types, Shadows, Vails, Cover, Death or Grave, Hell or the Bottomless Pit were? What is your Water Baptism? Is it not a figure which gives not the answer of a good Conscience? What is your Bread, Wine and Ordinances which ye like the Jews so much cry up, having lost the Spirit which the true Jew, & they that had the one Baptism into the one spirit, and the new wine in the Father's Kingdom, and the living Bread which came down from Heaven had. MATTHEW CAFFIN, For the Truth's sake and sim●●●● an open enemy to it, and hatest the Light, and canst not abide that it should be so much Preached. I shall answer to those things charged against us in thy book, so far as they are our words and not thy own, with wicked inventions cast upon us by thy venomous tongue. And as for our Principle, it is the Way, the Truth and the Life, and it is clear and innocent in itself, though its image and beauty hath been more mared by such as thou (who like the Jews are crying up the Ordinances of the Lord, which makes the comers thereunto no more perfect than theirs did) then by any Professors besides in the Nation, and it will clear itself should we be silent, and spew such as thou art out of its mouth. 1. The first thing thou chargest the Quakers with is, That they say the eternal Spirit of Light and Power is the Saviour of the world. Ans. This is owned and not denied, but that I or any of the Quakers deny the man Christ Jesus, is not our Principle, but thy own lie cast upon us, and my words do not agree with thine, but with the Scripture and Christ's words, John 5. where he saith, Ye have neither heard his voice, nor seen his shape at any time; Now if thou sayest this was not spoken of Christ but the Father, I say it was spoken of both, for they are one, if thou couldst but believe the Scripture, or own the Light, John 14. I am in the Father, and the Father in me, the words that I speak, I speak not of myself, but the Father that dwelleth in me he doth the work, blessed is the eye that sees him, it is satisfied, vers. 8. Philip said unto him, Lord show us the Father and it sufficeth (mark) Philip a hearer with the outward ear, but being dull of hearing, and dim sighted, at the present he was unsatisfied, though he had seen and heard with the outward ear, vers. 9 Jesus said unto him, have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip, he that hath seen me hath seen the Father also; but thou sayest, the eyes of all in the Synagogue saw him, and were fastened on him, and thou supposest the Quakers have no show of Scripture to prove that they which crucified him had any other eyes; here thy malice hath transported thee beyond thy own rule, the Scripture saith expressly, The Veil was over their Hearts, and they had outward eyes and saw him, and said, he was the Carpenter's Son, but Christ said, they were blind leaders of the blind (mark the Light which he bids them believe in whilst they had it is the eye) and that they had eyes and saw not, ears and heard not, and hearts but understood not, Mark 8.18. Ezek. 12.2. Jer. 5.21. Therefore what eye did Paul open, or what ear was he sent to unstop? and what prisoner was that which he was sent to proclaim liberty unto? and what was that house and prison he was to bring him out of? what did he minister, and what did he minister to? was he not a Minister of Christ, after his own eye was opened, and Christ revealed which before was vailed in him? did he not minister to the Spirit in prison? (Answer if thou canst) and sow the seed of eternal life, read John 8 47. was not this the cause they could not hear Christ, because they were of the Devil, for saith Jesus, He that is of God heareth God's words, ye therefore hear them not because ye are not of God; then said the Jews, say we not well, thou art a Samaritane and hast a Devil? is not this thy mind concerning my words in my Book, because I say the carnal eye and ear did never see nor hear the voice of the Son of God, vers. 43. why do ye not understand my speech? even because they cannot hear my words. 2. Thou sayest George Fox said the flesh of Christ is a figure, and Joseph Fuce saith, the Baptists make flesh their arm. Answ. The words of George Fox as thou sayest is in his Book, I never read them there, nor ever heard him speak the words; but this I say, there is a flesh that profiteth not, yea and a vail too, which was a figure of him that was to come, as saith the Scripture, Rom. 5.14. and I witness the words of Joseph Fuce true, who hath been a Teacher amongst you myself, that all such as thou art make flesh their arm, who art an enemy to the light, which is the arm and power of God to Salvation. 3. Thou sayest Humphrey Smith in his Book saith, Christ is come, and this by thee is counted a great error; I say the same, and much more, the Kingdom is come and the Righteousness thereof, glory is come and we are come into it, Righteousness is reigned down from Heaven, Truth is sprung up in the earth, Salvation is come, and we sit in Heaven with Christ; yet do not I say or deny but there is a further weight of glory, and the increase of this kingdom and glory hath no end; neither do I deny but Christ is yet to come the second time, the Kingdom and the Righteousness thereof is yet to come to all such dark sots as thou art, although the seed the light is come into thee already, to thy condemnation. 4. Thou goes on slandering Humphrey Smiths Book, entitled The everlasting Rule, and sayest in the face of men and Devils he affirms, that there is no other rule, way, means or name by which man shall ever come to walk with God, but by that which is manifest of God in him. My heart is one with Humphrey Smith in these words, and in the face of the Devil, and against him and all such men as take his part, I affirm the same, that he which was the Light in whom all the Patriarches and Fathers walked with God (before the Scriptures (which is thou sayest thy rule and guide) was written) is the Saviour of the world, and changes not, his Spirit a perfect guide and instructor in all the ways of Righteousness, and besides him I do not look for another, yet the Scriptures I own, which are things too high for thee who art an enemy to him that giveth life. Now I shall come a little to take notice of the form of thy own words, which gins in the 59 page of thy Book, where thou hast drawn up scornfully many words in thy own form, and replies an answer thyself, and sayest, Turn to the Light within, saith the Quaker; this thou dost not speak so as to own it for Truth, or the Light and its teaching sufficient, but as if it were a doctrine contrary to what God, Angels, Prophets, and Apostles taught; therefore I shall prove thee exceeding blind concerning the Scriptures, to all who are not filled with envy, as thou art; thou sayest God spoke by the Prophets, and all should hear the words that were cried by the words of the former Prophets, and not to the Light within, as saith the Quaker. Again thou sayest john sent two of his Disciples unto Jesus, saying, Art thou he that shall come, or do we look for another; but thou sayest the true Light turned him to outward means for his satisfaction, which outward means neither I nor any of the Quakers deny, if the Light within lead thereunto. Again thou speaks of john, and the people and Soldiers that came unto him, saying, Master what shall we do? and thou mocking sayest turn to the Light within says the Quaker; but sayest thou john who had another Spirit than the Light within, saith, let him that hath two coats impart to him that hath none; exact no more than that which is appointed, do violence to no man, neither accuse any man falsely, but be content with your wages, and so thou wouldst make a great difference, and divide between the Light of Christ in the Quakers, and the Light and Spirit that spoke in all the Prophets, or as if the Light of Christ within the Prophets now adays did teach to deny the words that were spoken by the same Christ and Light in the former Prophets; doth not the Light within, I appeal to the simple amongst the Baptists, which convinceth you of sin in your bedchambers, whether it doth not teach to do righteously, and impart a coat to him that hath none, or if thou hast bread to feed the hungry, and to do to thy neighbour, yea and unto all men as thou wouldst have them to do unto thee, and whether the whole Law and the Prophets be not contained in these things? and whether they which were without the Scripture and outward Law, had not the Law which is Light, as Solomon saith Prov 6.23. written in their hearts, by which nature they did the things spoken of in the outward Law? and whether this be to deny the Scripture, or contrary to the words of the former Prophets, or the Apostles, to turn people to the Light of Christ within, which doth fulfil the Scriptures, and is the end of both the Law and the Prophets, answer these things or confess them true. Again thou goest on in thy former manner, saying, a certain young man came to Christ and said, what shall I do that I may have eternal life? and the Jews came and demanded what shall we do that we might work the works of God? and then again mocking sayest, turn to the Light within says the Quaker; but sayest thou as if Christ were of another mind, then that they should turn to the Light within, keep the Commandments, and sell that which thou hast and give to the poor; and also to the Jews he said, this is the work of God, that ye believe in him whom the Father hath sent, that thou sayest waste Christ himself that talked with them, but was not in them. Answ. My answer is, nay, Christ was not in them so as he was in the Saints, to justify them, but the Devil and darkness was in them, which had blinded the pure eye, which did convince them in their Consciences many times, as thou thyself hast been convinced, that never man spoke as he spoke, neither were the words which he spoke the words of one that had a Devil, as they said he had. And further I say, that Christ's whole Doctrine, and the Apostles and Prophets did proceed from the Light within, for there is a Spirit in man, and the inspiration of the Almighty giveth him an understanding how to speak, and their very end was to turn them to the Light within; and they testified God was a Spirit, and dwelled in the Light, and they that walked in the Light had fellowship with him, and his Son Jesus Christ, and in which both them and their worship was accepted with the Lord, and all the rest worshipped they knew not what, as Christ saith, john 8.4.24. and what if Christ had said as the Quakers say in thy own words, turn to the Commandment within; I say, and the Spirit of Christ in Solomon saith the same, Prov. 6. thy Commandment is Light, and what if he had said this is the work of God, that ye believe in him who is the Commandment, and given for a Commander, & for a Covenant of Light, wouldst thou not have scorned him as thy Brethren the Jews did, and as thou dost the Quakers? did not David say I believe in thy word and it hath quickened me? and did he not say it is a Light to my feet, and a lantern to my paths? and that it kept him from sin, and was the way for a young man to have his way cleansed, if he took heed thereunto; and doth not Paul say this word in which David believed, and is the Author and begetter of the true faith in all that harken to it, which faith I know thou art a reprobate concerning, though the Title of thy Book is Faith in the promises is the Saints best weapon, yet thyself hast another weapon; and as for thy hiding place, slanders and lies is thy refuge, Rom. 10.8. is not this word nigh in the heart? and did not Christ say to the unbelievers who rejected the word and Law which is Light, While ye have the Light walk in the Light that you may be Children? and hath not this enlightened every one that cometh into the world? and doth not Christ say john 8. He that follows me shall not abide in darkness, but shall receive the Light of Life? but I say and the Lord hath said it, the Life is the Light of man, and shineth in the darkness, though such blind guides and sottish Children as thou art comprehend it not, john 1. vers. 1. to the 10. Thou bidst thy Brethren take the shield of faith, and so concludes thy Book. The Lord hath said thy faith is false, and let thy Brethren be warned, lest they believe as thou dost; but as thou sayest in scorn, I say in the integrity of my heart, let the simple among thy Brethren or elsewhere turn to the Light within, and word which is nigh them in their hearts, and if thy own day of visitation be not over, do thou hear and fear; but consider for the time to come, the Jews had thy word, the Letter, and the unbelievers and Apostates had thy rule, guide, and leader, but were reprobates concerning this faith which was once given to the Saints, and came by hearing of the eternal word in their hearts; but how canst thou believe on him thou hast not heard, but art vexing thyself because the Quakers cry turn to the word within; Thou likest such a word and rule well, and the Children of thy Father ever did, which thou canst wrest and turn as thou dost the Letter, to fight against the Life; but that which is a more sure word and foundation, a tried stone and a perfect rule from generation to generation of them that seek the Lord, this thou canst not endure; but it is my Crown and the Ornament of the Righteousness in which I rejoice, and tread upon the Serpent's head; and should I never speak more, this I say, the eye is open that sees thee and comprehends thy muddy mind, thou art weighed in an even balance, the Lord will bruise thee with the stone thou art lifting at, and the sword and weapon which thou fightest with shall be a perpetual pain and terror in thy own bowels. And in the 59 page of thy Book thou goest on in a scoffng way to oppose the Light within, which is to give the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Christ Jesus, and thou brings the Prophet's words, and John Baptists words, and Christ and the Apostles words, and Paul and Silas their words, that speaks of Repentance, and concerning the gifts of the holy Ghost, and these thou brings to oppose the Light within. Now to all sober people this needs no answer, but that thou shouldst not exalt thyself among the ignorant, these Queries are sent unto thee. Can any repent or have their minds changed, but they must have the Light within and be turned to it? can any receive the gift of the Holy Ghost, but they must be turned to the Light within? Is not the gift received within? And further thou goes on and sayest, Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ: And then thou scoffest and sayest, The Quakers say turn to the Light within. Now can any believe, but such who are turned to the Light within, which gives the Light of the knowledge of the Glory of God in the Face of Christ Jesus? as Cor. 24. And do not they that believe, come to the Witness in themselves and are passed from death to life? And is not that Witness within? What hast thou Preached all this while that sets such things upon Record, that Generations to come may see thy Ignorance? This shows that thou art not as the Churches was in the Primative times, that canst not endure the anointing within, nor light within; the anointing within must needs be light, and how many of the Baptists Teachers has brought people to the anointing within them, that they need no man to teach them, but as the same anointing teacheth them? And how many have they brought to the Light within which shines in the heart, to give the knowledge of the Glory of God in the Face of Christ Jesus? And how many have the Baptist Teachers brought to the New Covenant, the Law written in their hearts and put in their minds, that they need not teach every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord, for they shall all know him, from the least to the greatest? How have you Baptists Apostatised from this practice & Doctrine, who now appear as Antichrist in opposition to it, which was in the Apostles days, who now look upon Christ, and see him as the Pharisees did, who with the same eye that looks steadfastly upon him, runs upon him and rages at him; and these are them that stops the pure eye within, that denies the Light as the Pharisees did; so you are like to see with no other eyes then the Pharisees did, who know him no further than the Pharisees did, which flesh and blood does not reveal him to be the Son of God, and Christ is the substance of all Figures; yet to the world he is a sign, see if thou canst read that figure, and he is an example, and wilt thou look for another Christ than he that died at Jerusalem? because Humphrey Smith says, He looks for no other, are you Baptists angry at this? he that looks for another, I must tell you it is that Antichrist. 1. Query, Whether that was not the Light within, that the Pharisees stop their ears to, and closed their eyes; if it was not, what was it? 2. Are not all eyes stopped, and all ears closed till they come to the Light within, and all in the ungenerate and impenitent state, till they come to the Light within? 3. Is not the Light within, the eye that beholds God and Christ? 4. And can any see God or Christ without the Light within? or can they see him with a Natural eye, who is a Spirit? 5. And is it not the Spiritual eye by which Christ is beheld, and is not that within? Or is there any fellowship or Unity amongst any people that is of God, but they must c me to the Light within? Answer these-Queries all you Baptists who oppose the Light within, or else for ever let your mouths be stopped. 6. Can any one ever hear God, Christ, Prophets, Apostles or Angels, if it was not with the Light within, which gave to understand their words? 7. Or can any come to the knowledge of the Truth or to Repentance, Faith, or the Gifts of God, or come to Worship God in the Spirit and Truth, if they do not come to the Light within. 8. Or can any know Christ to be the Son of God and the Saviour, and know his Resurrection and his Blood, and him to be the offering who remains in the Heavens and restors all things, and by what he does restore, if it be not by the Light of Christ within? 9 And do not the Baptists stick in Bread, Water and Wine instead of the substance? 10. Is this a time for you to brawl, and to jangle, and wrangle about outward things? could the prodigal fill his belly with the husks? Did not he leave the husks when he came to the Father's house? Was not this parable spoken to the Jews who lived in outward things? And may not this be spoken to you who live in outward things, warnglers and fighters about them in the field, and comes not to the Father's House? Did not Cain k ll his brother in the field, and is not the field the World? Friend, in the fourtieth page of thy book, thou charges the Quakers to be in a very great error, because they say, The Eternal Spirit in man is the Saviour of the World, and to contradict this, thou puts a difference between Christ and the Comforter in this sense; I have said there is a difference as in his several Administrations, and as he oppe●●ts in one to condemnation, and is near in another to justification, in this sense there is a difference, when he Minister's wrath, and his everlasting burn against the wicked, and when he Minister's Peace, Joy, and everlasting assurance to those that love his Light and have followed it in the way of its Righteous Judgements; so I say there is a difference, when God who is pure Love, pure Peace in himself, hath to do and deal with man, who is joined to the Seed of Esau and Cain, which is reprobated; this was always hated by the Lord, and to the froward and perverse Gene●●●●on, God did always show himself froward, though God changes not neither is he froward, though he show himself so, and stands with his Right arm as an Adversary to the wicked, Psal. 18.26. With the Pure thou wilt show thyself Pure, with the Merciful thou wilt show thyself Merciful, with an upright man thou wilt show thyself upright, but with the froward thou wilt show thyself froward; verse. 25. and so though there be diversities of administrations, yet is there but one Lord, who is the same and changeth not. Thou sayest also, The eternal Spirit which dwelled in the Man Christ Jesus, which after the Apostles received in them, is called another Comforter, and that by Christ himself, which would not come unto the Apostles, unless as thou sayest, the true Christ went away, and so thou wouldst fain prove that the Comforters which afterware dwelled in the Apostles, was not the true Christ; and for proof her of, thou 〈…〉