His Majesty's MESSAGE TO The House of COMMONS: CONCERNING An Order made by them for the borrowing of One hundred thousand pounds of the Adventurers Money FOR IRELAND.  
Together with the ANSWER OF The House of Commons in Parliament thereunto.  

ORdered by the Commons in Parliament, That this Message and Answer be forthwith Printed and published:  
H. Elsing, Cler. Parl. D. Com.   
London, Printed by LUKE NORTON and JOHN FIELD, for E. Husband and J. Frank, and are to be sold at their shops in the Middle-Temple, and next door to the Kings-head in Fleetstreet. September 6. 1642.   


C R  HONI SOIT QVI MAL Y PENS DIEV ET MON DROIT  royal English blazon or coat of arms HIS MAJESTY'S MESSAGE To the House of Commons.  
HIs Majesty taking notice of an Order lately made by the House of Commons, whereby that house hath unduly assumed to themselves Authority to order, direct, and dispose of One hundred thousand pounds, part of those Moneys which the Adventurers for the redressing of the Rebels of Ireland have paid to that end only to that purpose, To other uses and intents, contrary to the express words of the Act of Parliament concerning the same; Wherein it is enacted, That no part of the Money which should be paid in according to that Act, shall be employed to any other purpose, than the reducing of those Rebels, until they shall be declared to be subdued, out of His piety and Princely care for the confirming and re-establishment of God's true Religion in that His Kingdom of Ireland; For, the relief of His distressed Subjects there, for the suppressing of that horrid and bloody Rebellion, for the supply and payment of His Armies there, now in great want and necessity; Doth strictly require the House of Commons, as they will answer the contrary to Almighty God, His Majesty, and those that have trusted them, That they immediately retract that mischievous, Illegal and unjust Order, wherein His Majesty expecteth their speedy Answer and Obedience; And the rather that he may thereby be secured, that such part of the Four hundred thousand pounds as is or shall be collected from His good Subjects of England, by virtue of the late Act of Parliament, whereby the same is granted, may not likewise (under false pretences) be diverted from its proper use, for which it was intended, and misemployed to the disturbance of the Peace of this Kingdom in a War against His Sacred Majesty.   

THE ANSWER OF The House of Commons TO HIS MAJESTY'S MESSAGE.  
THe House of Commons having received a Message from His Majesty of the 13th of August last, whereby they are required to retract an Order made by them for the borrowing of One hundred thousand pounds of the Adventurers Money for IRELAND, supposing that Order very prejudicial to the affairs of Ireland, and contrary to an Act of Parliament made this present Session; Do in the first place Declare, That these directions given by His Majesty for the retracting of this Order, is an high breach of Privilege of Parliament; And that they cannot without a deep sense of sorrow, call to mind how Popish and Prelatical Counsels did so far prevail with His Majesty, that two Armies were brought within the bowels of this Kingdom, and two Protestant Nations ready to welter in each others blood; That when both those Armies had been a long time defrayed at the charge of the poor Commons of England, and at length by God's blessing upon the endeavours of the Parliament quietly disbanded, the same wicked Counsels (prevented of that design) did soon after raise this bloody and barbarous Rebellion in Ireland: The suppressing whereof (for the better-colour) was recommended to the care of the Parliament, who, out of a fellow-feeling of the unspeakable miseries of their Protestant Brethren there (not suspecting this horrid Plot, now too apparent) did cheerfully undertake that great work, and do really intent and endeavour to settle the Protestant Religion, and a permanent Peace in that Realm, to the glory of God, and the great honour and profit of His Majesty, and security of His three Kingdoms: But how they have been discouraged, retarded, and diverted in and from this pious and glorious work, by those Traitorous Counsels about His Majesty, will appear by many particulars, some whereof they shall upon this just occasion call to remembrance.  
That when the Lords and Commons had upon the first breaking out of the Rebellion, immediately provided & sent over Twenty thousand pounds, & engaged themselves and the whole Kingdom for the reducing of the Rebels: Yet His Majesty after His return from Scotland to London, was not either pleased by Word or Message to take notice of it, until after some in the House of Commons had truly observed how forward those mischievous Counselors were to incite His Majesty against His Protestant Subjects of Scotland, and how slow to recent the proceeding of His Papist Traitors in Ireland.  
That although the Rebels had most impudently styled themselves, The Queen's Army; and professed that the cause of their rising was, to maintain the King's Prerogative, and the Queen's Religion, against the Puritan Parliament of England. And that thereupon both Houses of Parliament ●●d humbly and earnestly advice His Majesty to wipe away this dangerous scandal, by proclaiming them Rebels and Traitors to His Majesty, and the Crown of England, which then would have mated and weakened the Conspirators in the beginning; and have encouraged both the Parliament here, and good people there, the more vigorously to have opposed their proceed: Yet such was the power of those Counsels, that no Proclamation was set forth to that purpose, till almost three Months after the breaking out of this Rebellion, and then command given, that but 40 should be printed, nor they published till further directions should be given by His Majesty.  
That after both Houses of Parliament had found out a probable way to reduce the Kingdom of Ireland, by the Adventure of private men, without any charge to the Subject in general, and which they are very confident would have brought in a Million of Money (had His Majesty continued in or near London) those malicious Whisperers, that durst not hinder the passing of the Bill, which was so specious in itself, and so generally approved: Yet have by practice, by drawing His Majesty from His Parliament, by keeping Him at this distance, and advising Him to make war upon His people, so intimidated and discouraged the Adventurers and others that would have adventured, that they have rendered that good Bill in a manner ineffectual.  
That the Parliament and Adventurers had long since designed five thousand Foot, and five hundred Horse for the relief of Munster, to be sent as a Brigade, under the command of the Lord Wharton; had made choice and listed all the Commanders, and prepared Money, Arms, and other Provision for that Expedition, and all to be at the charge of the Adventurers: And when nothing was wanting but a Commission to the Lord Wharton, to enable him for that service, such was the power of those Counsels, that no Commission could be obtained from His Majesty; by reason whereof Lymrick was wholly lost, & the Province of Munster is now in very great distress.  
That when divers pious and well affected persons had prepared twelve Ships, and six Pinnaces, with a thousand or more Land-forces, at their own charge, by way of Adventure for the service of Ireland, and desired nothing but a Commission from His Majesty to enable them thereunto, that Commission, after twice sending to York for the same, and the Ships lying ready to set Sail for three weeks together, at the charge of near three hundred pound a day, was likewise denied; and those Adventurers (rather then to lose their Expedition) were constrained to go by virtue of an Ordinance of both houses of Parliament.  
That although the Lords Justices of Ireland have three months since earnestly desired to have two Pieces of Battery sent over, as very necessary for that service, yet such commands are given to the Ofcers of the Tower, that none of His Majesty's Ordnance must be sent to save His Majesty's Kingdom.  
That although whilst the Earl of Leicester stayed here in the Service of the Parliament, and in providing for his long-expected Voyage into Ireland, a Message was sent to the Parliament from His Majesty to hasten him away, and Letters were written to the said Earl from His Majesty, that he should make no stay at York for his dispatch, but that his Instructions should be ready for him against he came: And although it is notoriously known, That the Affairs of Ireland do exceedingly suffer by wanting the personal assistance of a Commander in chief, to give both life and motion to the Army there; yet the said Earl hath been stayed with His Majesty in the North a month and more, and as yet can get no dispatch.  
That notwithstanding the bleeding condition of Ireland, yet divers Commanders and Officers in pay, and in actual employment there against the Rebels, have been called away from that important Service, by the express Command of His Majesty, as Charles Floyd Engineer and Quartermaster General of the Army in Ireland, and divers others.  
That Captain Green controller of the Artillery, a man in pay, and principally employed and trusted here by the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, for the providing and ordering the Train of Artillery which was to be sent to Dublin, and who had received great Sums of money for that purpose, was commanded from that employment and trust, to serve His Majesty in this most unnatural War against His loyal and best-affected people.  
That the Parliament having made great provision of clothes for the poor Soldiers in Ireland for their present succour, and sending six hundred suits, part thereof towards Chester the last week, the man that undertook the carriage of them, one William Whitaker by name, was assaulted by His Majesty's Cavaliers, then lying about Coventry, who took away these six hundred suits of clothes, and the Wagon and horses of the poor man, although they were told that the six hundred suits of clothes were for the Soldiers in Ireland; and notwithstanding the poor Catryer was five times with the Earl● of Northampton, to beg a Release of his Wagon.  
That three hundred suits of clothes, with a Surgeon's Chest of Medicaments, being likewise sent for Ireland by one Richard Owesi●●ds, who was employed by the Parliament to carry them to Chester, a troop of His Majesty's Cavaliers, under command of one Captain Middleton, ●●me● with them upon the Road, and took away the clothes, and Surgeon's Chest, together with the poor Carrier's horses and Wagon, for His Majesty's pretended service here.  
That a great number of draught horses prepared by the Parliament for the Artillery and Baggage of the Irish Army, were sent to Chester for that purpose; and being there, attending a Passage, are now required by His Majesty, for His said present service in England.  
That His Majesty's Forces are so Quartered in and about the common Roads to Ireland, that neither Money, Clothes, Victuals, or other Provision, can pass thither by Land with any safety.  
That Captain Ketleby the Admiral, and Sir Henry straddling the Vice-admiral of the Ships which were directly to lie upon the Coast of Ireland to annoy the Rebels, and to prevent the bringing to them Ammunition and relief from Foreign Parts, are both called away from that employment by His Majesty's command, and by reason of their departure from the coast of Munster, to which they were designed, the Rebels there have received Powder, Ammunition, and other relief from foreign parts; by which, and many other particulars too long to relate, it may seem, as if those Barbarous Irish-Rebells are kept on foot and countenanced there, of design to assist the Northern Cavaliers, and according to the Earl of strafford's unheard of advice, to have an Army in Ireland with which His Majesty may reduce this Kingdom, especially considering those confident Rebels have presumed, very lately, to send a Petition to His Majesty, intituling themselves His Majesty's Catholic Subjects of Ireland, and complaining of the Puritan. Parliament of England, and desiring, that since His Majesty comes not thither according to their expectation, that they may come into England to His Majesty; Which Petition we may justly fear, is but a Prologue to that Tragedy they have designed to act here, in case their coming over be not prevented by the care and vigilancy of the Parliament and good people of England. But lest the House of Commons might seem to excuse the making of this Order by a way of Recrimination, They, for satisfaction to the world, do protest before Almighty God (the searcher of all hearts) That they have as great compassion and sorrow for the present sufferings of their distressed brethren in Ireland, as if themselves were in their case (into which they are confident those horrid Traitors, those Monsters of men about His Majesty do labour to bring this Kingdom) That they have, and shall ever really endeavour by all means possible (with a due regard to the present estate of this Kingdom) to supply & support them in this their great affliction, notwithstanding the malice and obstructions of all opposers.  
That the House of Commons lively apprehending the imminent danger of this Kingdom, and finding that whilst they were active here to subdue the Rebels of Ireland, there were Papists, Traitors and Delinquents more active in the North, to conquer and destroy the Parliament and good people of England, Thought it necessary to provide for the safety of both, by preparing a competent Army for the defence of King and Kingdom. And although multitudes of well-affected persons had cheerfully brought in great store of Plate for that purpose, yet in regard the Plate could not be coined with such expedition as the Importance of the service did require, and well knowing that One hundred thousand pounds might for a short time be borrowed out of the Adventurers Money for Ireland, without any prejudice to the Affairs of that Kingdom, whose subsistence depends upon the welfare of this, and resolving to make a real and speedy re-payment of what Money should be so borrowed, did make this Order; which, that it may appear to all the world to be neither mischievous, illegal nor unjust (as His Majesty by the instigation of those malignant whisperers is pleased to term it) the House of Commons thought fit to recite it in haec verba; and in stead of retracting the Order, to re-p●y the Money with all possible speed.  

The 30 of July, 1642  
IT is this day Ordered by the Commons House of Parliament, That the Treasurers appointed to receive the moneys come in upon the Subscriptions for Ireland, do forthwith furnish by way of Loan, unto the Committee of the Lords and Commons, for the defence of the Kingdom, the sum of one hundred thousand pounds, for the supply of the public necessity, for the defence of the King, Parliament, and Kingdom, upon the public Faith, to be repaid duly and carefully within so short a time, that it shall not be diverted from the purpose for which it was intended, or any way frustrate the Acts already made in the behalf of that Adventure.  
BY which Order, and that which hath been here truly set down, it will easily appear to all the indifferent people of His Majesties three Kingdoms, whether the King and His Cavaliers, or the King and His Parliament do most effect and endeavour the settling of true Religion, and a firm and constant peace within that bleeding and distressed Kingdom.   
FINIS.