An Answer to a Book WHICH SAMVEL ETON Put up to the PARLIAMENT: Which he saith he is a Teacher of the Church of Christ, heretofore meeting at Duckenfield, now at Stockport in Cheshire; And he calls the Title of his Book QUAKERS CONFUTED.  
Moses who was a Judge quaked and trembled, David a King in Israel quaked and trembled, and Solomon who was a King trembled, and Daniel a servant of the most high God trembled, and Jer. the Lords Prophet his bones shaked, and Habak. a Prophet of the Lord his lips quivered, and his belly shaken, and Paul a Minister made by the will of God trembled, and Job the servant of the most high God, who saw God trembled: And these saw God, and many other of our Witnesses we might bring.  
And these heard the voice of God, and thou that writest, thou mayest say thou hast confuted all them; for he that is against them, is against us, and he that is against us, is against them, for the same power is witnessed; b●t thou Eton, who saith thou art a Teacher of the Church at Duckenfield, who saith thou hast not heard the voice of the living God, and that such a voice as this, as comes immediately from God, you have not heard, and such an inspiration as this you have not received, nor do you wait for it.  
And Isaiah saith, Hear the Word of the Lord all ye that tremble at his Word; and this is the man that I do regard, saith the Lord, that is of a contrite heart, and trembleth at my Word; but such Eton and his Church doth not regard, but custs out friends of the Lord from them, whom the world calls QUAKERS.  
London: Printed for Giles Calvert, at the black Spread-Eagle, at the West end of Paul's, 1654.   

To the Reader.  
We hearing of a Paper which was sent to a Member of a Church, (as they call it) at Duckenfield, or that ways; of which one Eton is the Pastor; and in that Paper we find many slanderous speeches, and false accusations against us, whom the world scornfully calls Quakers. So the Paper being sent to us, we seeing many lies and false reports, we wrote some things to the paper, to clear ourselves from lies and slanders: And that generation which ever doth lie and slander, and sent it back to the Church, as they call it, and certain Queries to be answered: For had the Church, or the Pastor of it, as they call it, sent the Paper to us, it had been honest; but writing to others, not sending to us, we see the deceit that would slander the innocent privily; but to us it is none, because it doth not touch us: And the said Church, and Eton, which the Queries were sent to, have writ forth a Book, and sent to the Parliament, and so not sent it to us: Let all people take notice, if here be not pride and hypocrisy; Had they sent it to us, it had been honest: and in it we find much wresting of the Scripture, multitudes of conceivings, and consequences, and contradicting Christ's words, and Gods words, which were spoken forth by his Prophets, as hereafter shall be made appear.   

An Answer to a BOOK, Entitled, The QUAKERS CONFUTED.  
A Reply to the Answers of some Queries in a Book entitled the Quakers confuted, set forth by Samuel Eton, a Teacher of the Church of Christ, (as he saith) heretofore meeting at Duckenfield, now at Stopworth in Cheshire, which was directed to the Parliament of this Nation, sitting at Westminster: To them I find much flattering and crouching, but under whose tongue there is venom, under a colour, as contending for the faith, which he knows nothing of, and them that do, will trample his dirty stuff under their feet: and the said Eton under a colour would make people believe he appears for God and Christ, yet his intent is to persecute and incense, and provoke people to wrath against those people he calls Quakers: but the Lord is their defence, and heard such in all Ages, as in the days of Isaiah, David, and the rest, who were of a contrite and humble spirit, and trembled at his word, which the Lord would not despise, but regard; but the world would not, but despise, as Eton, and the world doth now.  
Object. O Eton, thou liar, Doth Paul, and Christ, compare them that trembled at the Word of the Lord, as wolves, and Satan transforming himself into an Angel of light, and so into Ministers of Righteousness.  
Reply. O thou liar, Doth Satan transform himself into Ministers of Righteousness? Here I charge thee in the Presence of the Lord to be a liar, and perverts the Apostles words, they may transform them as the Ministers of Righteousness, but not into Ministers of Righteousness, and this is thy Quakers confuted.  
Object. And thou sayest that John makes them all Antichrists.  
Reyly. This shall stand for thy own condition, who doth oppose Christ as thou declares in this Book, and as touching Satan's transforming himself into an Angel of light, this is thy own condition, and into the Ministers of righteousness, as thou sayest, here thou hast uttered forth thy lies: And on touching Christ's calling them wolves, that is thy own condition, who art making war against the Lambs of Christ, and be silent, and slander thou not the Church of Christ: he need not have an outward power to maintain it that is dispersed abroad in this Land, which doth torment thee; for its the pillar and ground of truth.  
Object. Which sows much corrupt seed.  
Reply. This is thy own condition, as thou hast showed in this Book, but that which thou calls corrupt is the Seed of God, and God will judge thee for thy blasphemy, who art in error. In this Book thou hast sown thy corrupt seed.  
Object. Doctrine of Seducers.  
Reply. This is thy own condition, for such practices we do abhor, and how fain wouldst thou raise a persecution, and show yourselves zealous of his glory in these things, and saith, the Lord will bless you henceforward: And the Magistrate is for praise to good works, and a terror to evil works, then will it take hold upon thee thou envious man, who art seeking after blood, as all thy generation did.  
Object. Whereof thou art accusing Apostasy from the true God, from the true faith, and from the true word.  
Reply. This is thy own condition.  
Object. And thou sayest. If there be sorcery, and familiarity with the Devil, to be found among a people who challenge propriety in God.  
Reply. This is thy own condition: for them whom thou calls Quakers, doth own the true faith, and true Christ, and true God, and denys all such filthy things.  
Object. First thou accusest them, and saith, That it is held forth much of their doctrine, and practices, concerning revelations, and immediate voices, and against the holy Scriptures, Christ's Ministers, Church, and Ordinances.  
Reply. And these are all lies; for Revelations we own according to the Scriptures, and immediate voices. Christ's Ministers, Church, and Ordinances, we own according to the Scriptures: And, O man, lay thy hand upon thy mouth, and blush, and be ashamed, for thy lies; thou mayest be set up with the world, which lieth in wickedness; but from God, thou liar art turned, and must into the lake that burns.  
And something in answer to the story or tale, which thou tells to the Christian Reader, and many reports, respecting a people called Quakers, concerning sorcery and witchcraft, being among them.  
Object. And thou sayest, Thou metst with a man, a Teacher to a people, about half a mile from Nottingam, and thou asked him, whether he did conceive that there was sorcery among them; and he said, Yea, that there was sorcery among them.  
Reply. The chief Priests, such as you did ever judge the Power of Christ to be of the Dev l, for it did ever overturn your Kingdom: O vain man, here thou hast printed forth what he did conceive; and in your mind of conceiving lodgeth the spirit of sorcery, and that which carries sorcery, hearing and telling of new things, as the Athens did, who shows thyself ignorant of the holy men of God, who were in trances, tremble, and quake.  
Object. And as thou speakest of a young man, which came twice or thrice to their meetings.  
Reply. Was he come to the trembling of Devils, and dost thou and he blaspheme that power, which made him to tremble? and this story thou gives to the Reader, that all may see thy folly, which story th●u receivedst from the Min star, as thou calls them.  
Object. And thou sayest, thou thoughtest to have nothing to do with that generation of men.  
Rep. Didst thou not utter forth thy lies and slanders in a paper? And dost not thou utter forth thy lies now, and so for the Truth's sake are we moved to write against thy lies, which thou hast printed in this paper?  
Ob. And whereas thou tell'st the Parliament and Reader of another story of a man and his Wife, and art troubled, because he titled the Ministers under the name of the Priests of the world, and Teachers of the world: Are you not such, which say, you have not heard a voice speak from Heaven, neither do you look for it, that such a voice as this, that comes immediately from God, you have not heard; nor such an inspiration as this you do not wait for?  
Rep. And here thou hast cleared thyself for being any Minister of God, and from having the Spirit of Inspiration; and here thou art a Teacher of the world, which teacheth deceit, which denies perfection.  
Ob. And thou art tormented, because the said Richard Waller affirmed, that he had his Teacher within him.  
Rep. And doth not the Scriptures witness the same? Ye need not that any man teach you, but as the anointing which is within. And doth not the Prophet exhort them to cease from man? and wouldst thou teach them to follow man? And doth not the Apostle bid them to take heed of the light within them, unt l the day dawn, and the Daystar arise in their hearts? Here dost not thou clear thyself from the Spirit of the Prophets, and Christ, and the Apostles; and cannot endure the Doctrine of Christ, the Prophets, and the Apostles, which is the sound Doctrine?  
Samuel Eton.  
And the answer to the paper which thou accused the Quakers of, thou shalt find to be true, though thou canst not own it with thy sottish and sensual mind.  
Ob. And thou sayest the Saints and the world may know what a people we are.  
Rep. Here thou puttest the Saints and the world both together; the world knows us not, but who are Saints witness us.  
Ob. And thou sayest, What little hope there is of any good to be wrought of any of them, what a people these are?  
Rep. Thy teachings we deny, and thy discoursing upon the Scriptures with corrupt mind we deny, but the Scriptures we own, they are ours; and so such busy minds, who are giving senses and meanings to the Scriptures we deny, for they are of no private interpretation.  
Ob. And thou sayest, they pretend to speak and act all by the Spirit, and if any one will try their Spirit that they speak by, their reply is, That they can neither witness Scripture nor Spirit.  
Rep. But what Scripture canst thou witness, who denies the immediate Voice from God, and immediate Inspiration? And thou sayest, they increase in number continually, and this torments thee, and now thou comest to prophecy.  
Ob. The time will come they shall proceed no further, but this is the false Prophet, The time is come that thou shalt proceed no further, for thy folly is made manifest already, which is to the glory of God, renting thy Kingdom, and setting up his own Kingdom; so that the power and effectual working of God, which turns the mind of so many unto himself, from the world by his Spirit, and to the uniting their hearts together from the world's Forms, Sects, and Opinions: And thou who denies the immediate Inspiration, and immediate Voice from God, which thou hast put up to the Magistrate, but God will dash all the earthly Bonds asunder with his immediate power and eternal Spirit, who denies the immediate voice, who lives in Error and Heresy, as thou hast made it manifest: And this is in answer to the stories thou gav'st to the Parliament, and to the Christian Reader.   

Samuel Eton, now something in Replication to thy answers of the Queries.  
Que. FRiend the first Query which was put to thee was, Whether thou hadst the eternal Spirit which gave forth the Scriptures, yea or no?  
Object. And in thy answer thou believes, that the Spirit of Christ dwells in Saints, yet thou asserts the Spirit of Christ to be distinct from the Saints, and the Saints from the Spirit.  
Rep. Here thou hast cleared thyself from the eternal Spirit that gave forth the Scriptures: The Query was put to thee, Whether thou hadst the eternal Spirit, who saith, The Spirit of Christ is distinct from the Saints. Let all people see if thy Spirit be not distinct from the Saints, and a lying Spirit, to say the Spirit of Christ is distinct from the Saints, when the Spirit that gave forth the Scriputre saith, which was in the Saints, they were led by the Spirit, and they had received the Spirit; and Christ said, the Spirit of the Father spoke in them; and the Apostle said, If you have not the same Spirit as raised up Christ, you are none of his.  
Obj. And thou sayest, The Spirit of Christ is distinct from the Saints.  
Rep. And the Ministers of God said they were in the Spirit; and here openly thou show'st thyself to be rambling up and down with thy own Spirit, and not guided by the Spirit of Jesus, but by the Spirit of Error and confusion; and this is the Record, God hath given us his Spirit, but this was not spoken in thy Generation, and ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit; and thou sayest, they are distinct from it.  
Obj. And thou sayest the Spirit of Christ dwells in them, which Spirit is God, but thou dost not believe that there is any essential or personal unity between this eternal Spirit, and the Saints believers, for such unity would either make the Spirit and Believers some third things.  
Rep. Silence Flesh, who art in confusion, for thou hast nothing to do to talk of Unity, nor this eternal Spirit, which thou sayest is God, and yet there is no eternal Unity with the eternal Spirit.  
Query 2. Whether the Apostles did give a right meaning to the Scriptures, when they gave them forth, or left them to you to give the meaning of them, yea or no?  
Ans. And thy answer is, That in all the Scriptures they gave forth, had a meaning with those Scriptures which they gave forth, yet not always so plainly, that the meaning thereof might be rightly taken up by those that read them, unless compared with some other Scriptures, which they also have given out, which have plainer sense in them, and are helpful to expound them.  
Rep. And hear thou leaves Spirit, and thy confused stuff is issued out of thy Bottle, who would make the Apostle a liar, who used plainness of speech, and so the Scriptures were of no private interpretation, nor came not by the will of man, which thou in thy will art giving senses unto, who sayest, it is left to you to find out the sense and meaning, who saith, the letter contains contradictions; thou liar, there is no contradictions in it, but the contradictions is in thyself; for where the same Spirit is made manifest, as was in them that gave forth the Scriptures, it own it without any of thy senses and meanings, who art in the number of the Beast; here is wisdom, let him that hath understanding count the number.  
Obj. And whereas thou sayest Christ commands to search the Scriptures, because the meaning lieth deep in many places, yet by searching what Scriptures lay together speak, the sense may be gotten out.  
Rep. Here thou art a liar; Did Christ bid them search the Scriptures to find out the sense of the Scriptures? Here thou add'st, to make people believe that there was life in the Scriptures, when Christ saith not so, but saith, Ye will not come unto me that ye might have life: And though they had the letter of the Scripture, yet they knew not Christ, therefore they were to come to him, that they might have life, which opens the Scriptures without thy senses or meanings, for they had thought to have found life in the Scriptures, as thou dost.  
Object. Another Scripture thou brings of Christ destroying this Temple, and in three days raise it up again.  
Rep. And thou liar, thou sayest there is a sense in these words; did he not speak plainly? Here thou showest thyself to be among them that gave a sense upon his words, and could not understand his speech, and as they did, so dost thou, who canst not understand plainness, and hast cleared thyself from that Spirit that spoke forth these words; and if you had that Spirit that gave forth the Scriptures, you need not bring Scripture to interpret Scripture, for the same Spirit that gave them forth, will open all again; but from this Spirit thou hast cleared thyself, and thou art unlearned without the life in thy own sense and points.  
Object. And again thou sayest, they are not left to put your own sense upon them.  
Reply. What is it but thy own sense when thou sayest, God doth not intent to teach immediate, or if it be not immediate, it is carnal, and natural: And the carnal man knows not the things that are of God, who lives in thy own sense.  
Quer. 3. Whether plagues be not added to them who add to the Prophecies written in this Book, or whether his name be not to be diminished out of the Book of life who diminisheth, or whether you can witness this Name, yea, or no?  
Ans. And thy answer is nothing to purpose, or the Book of life, or the new name thou shows thyself ignorant of, therefore thou art unlearned, and must be silent, as thou art to it: and let the Prophets, Christ, and the Apostles alone; for they all spoke by one spirit, according to their growth, and the fulfilling of the Scriptures.  
Object. But thou speaks of an Interpretation that agrees to the spirit of the Scriptures.  
Reply. That Interpretation we deny; for you would have another Interpretator besides the Spirit: and here thou shows thyself to be in thy fancy, adding to whom the plagues of God are due, who adds another interpretation besides the Spirit, and thou art in the nature of all them who thou reckons up which art out of the truth.  
Object. Thou accusest the quakers for grand Impostures, which they beguile people, they bring the letter which serves for their purpose.  
Reply. This shall stand for thy own condition, for thy impostures we abhor, and here thou art a liar: I charge thee in the presence of the Lord, as to say, we bring the letter which serves for our purpose to deceive the people; for every tittle of the Scripture is ours, and we own them, and do not deceive the people from the truth, but such as you call Ministers, which make a trade upon the Scriptures, and lead people into darkness, with your senses upon the Scriptures, we deny: And so here thou a t found the adder, giving senses and meanings according to the Spirit, as thou sayest: and here thou makest it manifest, that it is thyself that interprets, and not the Spirit that gave forth the Scriptures, which Spirit opens them again.  
Object. And thou sayest the sufficiency of the Scriptures do build men up to salvation.  
Rep. Here thou settest the Scripture before God and Christ, who is the Saviour, and perverts it, hadst thou said they were able to make one wise to salvation through Faith in Christ Jesus, but there thou art diminishing, as to say the Scripture is sufficient to build men up to salvation.  
Que. 4. Whether you have an infallible judgement to judge of things eternal, yea or no?  
Ans. Thou sayest every man is darkness.  
Rep. And there thou art in thy first estate, who hath uttered forth many words to this Query out of thy confused mind.  
Obj. Thou sayest, them that the Apostles said knew all things, which was but an hyperbolical expression, and did import only much knowledge to be in them.  
Rep. Here I charge thee in the presence of the Lord to be a perverter of the Apostles words, and one that addeth: John speaks no such word as hyperbolical, therefore let thou John's words alone: Here all may see whether thou speakest by the spirit or no.  
Object. And thou sayest, they that had received the Unction, had not an infallible judgement.  
Rep. And here let all people take notice what thou speakest from, and yet thou sayest, though they had the Spirit, which if they have the Spirit to judge withal, the judgement is infallible, and thou belies them, and wrongs them, for they knew the truth, and that there was no lie of it, and then they had an infallible judgement; and the Apostles said, they knew all things.  
Obj. And thou sayest, it did but import much knowledge.  
Rep. And here thou wouldst make the Apostle a liar, and the Scripture false.  
Obj. And thou sayest, neither you, nor any other hath an infallible judgement in all things.  
Rep. Here thou hast cleared thyself from the spiritual man, who judgeth all things, and hath an infallible judgement.  
Obj. And again, Thou sayest in all things, and at all times, but you are subject to error in many things, you do not apprehend to speak right of God, of Christ, of the Spirit, of the Saints, and of yourselves, and of the Mystery of the Gospel.  
Rep. And here again thou hast cleared thyself, who doth not apprehend and speak aright of God, Christ, the Spirit, Saints, yourselves, and of the mystery of the Gospel: Let all people take notice whether thou hast not cleared thyself from God, Christ, the Spirit, the Saints, and the Mystery of the Gospel.  
Obj. And thou sayest, you do not apprehend yourselves.  
Rep. Let all people take notice, and see if you be a fit man to preach, who cannot apprehend to speak right of God, of Christ, of the Spirit, of the Saints, and of the mystery of the Gospel, and thou hast confessed it, and openly showed thyself to be a natural man that knows not the things of God, who cannot speak aright of God, as thou sayest, and that which is not right is wrong, and the Spirit of Error, which thou sayest ye are subject to.  
Obj. Thou sayest there may be an infallible judgement, which may be made from the Scripture without the Spirit.  
Rep. This is thy judgement, like unto the Jews, who had the Letter, but not the spirit, who judged Christ to be a devil, and so here are the fruits of thy manners and Doctrine, as thou call'st them, and thy pretending truth much confused stuff, here is in this answer, as thou call'st it, and yet thou confessest an infallible judgement, which cannot be made without the Spitit, but that Spirit is without them.  
Obj. And in some things thou sayest you have an infallibility, but this is the confusion, that the Scripture is the foundation of an infallible judgement concerning things contained in them, and not the Spirit.  
Rep. Here thou wouldst make people believe, that the Scripture was before the Spirit, and so shows thyself to be natural and carnal, and shows thyself ignorant of that Spirit that gave forth the Scriptures, which is the Judge of all Error, and such as shows forth the Spirit of Error.  
Que. 5. Whether you be above the Apostle, and able to judge his condition, because you say he was not perfect, who said, he spoke wisdom among them that were perfect.  
Ans. And in thy answer thou sayest, Paul denied perfection, and thou deniest perfection.  
Rep. Thou liar, where did Paul ever deny perfection, and here you sit as Judges, and when Paul spoke, Let us, as many as are perfect be true minded, he did not speak only of himself, neither did he speak of comparative perfection, which thou sayest some attained unto: And here I charge thee again to add to the Scriptures, and perverts the Apostles words, for he spoke plainly, Stand perfect and complete in all the will of God, and be perfect; but he doth not speak of a comparative perfection.  
Obj. And thou brings the words of the Apostle James, who saith, He that can bridle his tongue is a perfect man.  
Rep. He saith so, but thou saith not absolutely perfect: Here again thou perverts the Apostles words, and would make him a liar, and that Scripture false, but thou art the liar, and art for the Lake that burneth with fire and brimstone.  
Obj. And thou sayest, The heart may be unruly, though the tongue be restrained, and such thou sayest are comparatively perfect.  
Rep. Where there is no such thing mentioned in the Scripture as comparative perfection, but it is thy coined words added to the Scriptures, and the plagues will be added to thee.  
Obj. And thou sayest among such perfect ones Paul speaks wisdom, but not amongst absolute perfectists.  
Rep. Paul saith he spoke wisdom among them that were perfect, and thou sayest not amongst absolute perfectists: Here I charge thee in the presence of the Lord to be the liar, but thou wouldst make the Apostle a liar.  
Obj. And thou sayest it is a senseless foolish question, because we ask you whether you be above the Apostles condition.  
Rep. Seeing you sit as Judges of his condition, as you have made it appear, perverting his words, and would make him a liar.  
Que. 6. Whether you have the hidden wisdom which God ordained before the world was, which the Apostles speak of, yea or no?  
Some things in reply to thy answer of this Query: Now thou sayest, if Christ be this hidden wisdom, the question runs of Christ, whether you be or no, our answer runs to this.  
Ans. And here you have showed forth yourself, and cannot confess the hidden wisdom as the Apostles did with that they had, and so have given no answer to the Query, but hast given forth many words, and saith, we do imagine many things of Christ, and of God, and his flesh.  
Rep. But that is thy own condition, who art in thy imaginations, for we deny thee and them both, who hath put these lies upon us, for neither Christ, nor God, nor Scriptures are known by imaginations.  
Object. And thou speakest of Christ within them, teaching them.  
Rep. That is witnessed, and where he is, grace is, and strength and holiness, and the spiritual man need not any external thing to lead the spirit, and so all thy external Ordinances and external Teachings we utterly deny, but the Scriptures we own, and the Ordinances of Christ in their place, and here thou hast showed forth thy venom.  
Object. And thou sayest, Christ within them is sufficient for all things, and to have no teachers but Christ; this we assume not, nor dare, and we declare against it as a satanica delusion that these poor creatures are in, which confess Christ is sufficient for all things.  
Rep. All who are in light may see what utter darkness thou lives in, who would have Christ sufficient for all things, and all purposes; and the Scripture saith, he is all in all, and thou art in the estate of thy first parents, as thou calls it, and a servant to thy Master.  
Que. 7. Whether you have heard the voice of the living Lord God of heaven and earth, or whether you do not take the Prophet's words, Christ's words, and the Apostles words, and say it, when saith the Lord, I never spoke to you.  
Ans. Our answer is this, That such a Voice as this, as comes immediately from God, we have not heard, and such an inspiration as this we have not received, nor do we wait for it.  
Rep. Here thou showest thyself one that runs before thou art sent, and one that useth thy tongue, and no Minister of God, and thyself to be a Heathen not hearing his voice, who speaks from heaven, whose voice shakes the earth, so thou knows nothing of salvation but by hearsay; and here thou showest thyself to be a false Prophet, that takes the Saints words, and say, he saith, when saith the Lord I never spoke to them, and doth confess that the Jews said Moses heard his voice, and among the Jews thou art, who persecutes the truth.  
Object. And thou sayest, Such an inspiration which is immediately received from God, we have not received, neither do we wait for it.  
Rep. Here thou hast cleared thyself, that thou hast not received the Spirit of God, but art in the spirit of error, for the Scripture was given us by inspiration, and by immediate inspiration of the same Spirit are understood again, and from this thou hast cleared thyself, and from the life of all the holy men of God, and sayest, thou dost neither look nor wait to receive such an immediate voice, nor such an inspiration; and here thou showest thyself to be a natural man, and one of the dumb Prophets, that hath not a word from the Lord, but an imposture, thou accusest them thou call Quakers withal, and art a deceiver, but those words they deny, and Wonders, and Miracles, and Signs are amongst them, but your adulteress generation could never believe.  
Object. And thou sayest the Querie strikes at all preach, but what immediately proceeds from the suggestion of the Spirit, and this thou sayest is the ven●m and poison of the Query.  
Rep. And here again thou clearest thyself to be no Minister of the Spirit, but art in the suggestions of Satan, and counts that venom and poison the immediate preaching of the Spirit, to thee it is poison, but it must dash thee to pieces, and thou through many words would blind the people, who utters them forth without knowledge, and so a fool is known.  
Object. And thou sayest, the word of old, which was spoken by the Prophets, and this, is a more sure word than any immediate word.  
Rep. There thou hast cleared thyself from the immediate Word, who art built upon a rotten foundation, which is not immediate, and would clear the Prophets from this immediate word to make them like thyself, who says, and calls this a more sure word of Prophecy than any immediate word. Here thou goest about to make the word and Prophecy not an immediate word, and shows thyself to be a dreamer.  
Object. And thou sayest, consequently God did not intent immediate teaching, not to give out an immediate voice in after ages, which should airect and guide men in the ways of salvation.  
Rep. And here again I charge thee in the presence of the Lord to be a liar, and a blasphemer, who would limit God, and would be his Counsellor, and yet says, thou never waits to hear his voice, and not come so far●, as to be a Minister of the letter, who would have it kept in store, and saith, it is a precious treasure; God saith, he will power out his Spirit upon all fl●sh in the latter days, his sons and his daughters shall prophesy; and thou deniest immediate teaching, and so denies the spirit of the Lord which guides in the way of salvation, which thou denies, and thou hast denied, that thou last heard any Voice from God, neither dost thou wait for it: And here thou denies thyself to be taught of God, for all the children of the Lord are taught of the Lord, and they that are taught of him hears his voice, which thou denies, and shows thyself to be a stranger from God and Christ.  
Object. And thou sayest there must not be a waiting for a new immediate word.  
Rep. Here thou showest thyself that thou knowest not the immediate word, and this immediate word thou hast cleared thyself from, which gave forth the letter, and would keep others from waiting for the receiving of it, and speak of a word spoken to you, though not immediately, and if not immediately, it is carnal.  
Object. And thou bringest Paul, who said. Well spoke the Holy Ghost by Isaiah. He did not say, well spoke the Holy Ghost to me, but to Isaiah.  
Rep. Here thou wouldst make people believe, that the Apostle had not the Holy Ghost which opened to him all those words which Isaiah spoke, for without the Holy Ghost he could not understand his words, nor never shalt thou.  
Object. Thou sayest it was God's word to Isaiah, which he made use of against the people, to whom he spoke, though not God's word to him immediately.  
Rep. And here thou showest, that thou neither knows God's Word, nor his immediate teaching, who sits as a Judge upon Isaiah's condition, Silence flesh, for thou art for judgement and destruction; and would make people believe, that Isaiah was one of them that used his tongue.  
Query 8. Whether a man shall overcome the body of sin while he is upon the earth, yea or no?  
Ans● And in thy answer thou saidst no.  
〈◊〉 The Apostle said yea, they were not in the flesh, but 〈…〉, and he thanked God they were made free from sin, 〈…〉 put off the body of sin, and become servants of righteousness. And here thou showest thyself to have a lying Spirit 〈◊〉 to the Scripture, which thou boastest to be thy rule, and so thou brings the Saints weaknesses, as they passed the warture to maintain thy own Kingdom of Sin; and when John and the Apostle Paul speaks plainly of overcoming the world and Body of Sin, thou speakest of a sense of overcoming, as though they did not speak truth, and so art giving an interpretation to their words, who art in the lying Generation; and for the warfare which the Apostles speaks of, the Saints witnessed, and do witness it, and witnesses a Victory over the Body of Sin, and are not always in the warfare, for whilst ye are in the warfare there is no peace, but they that overcome witnesses peace and joy in the Holy Ghost, For he that is born of God doth not commit sin, neither can he sin, because his seed remains in him: And here the warfare is ended, who witness this, and the Victory over the Body of Sin, and are not si●ly women always learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth; but in that Generation thou art leading silly women captive, always learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth, keeping them always in their sins, and pleading for thy own Kingdom, which is the Kingdom of the Devil, for he that commits sin is of the Devil, which thou so plead'st for.  
Query 9 Whether you do preach no other Doctrine but what the Apostles did, that which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which w● have looked upon, and our hands have handled of the Word o● Life, for this Life is made manifest, and we have seen it, an● bear witness, and show it unto you.  
Ans. And in your answer to this Query, you say, That yo● aim at nothing but exalting Christ, and you should have a your preaching tend thither; and you say, you do not preac● that Christ which you have seen with your bodily eyes, for Christ is in heaven, and not in earth, not any other that lives upon earth hath heard of him, and seen him.  
Rep. O thou dark Sot, Does any see Christ with their carnal eyes, and know him? Was it not said to the Apostle, that flesh and blood had not revealed it unto him, w●en he said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God? and from this Revelation thou hast cleared thyself.  
Ob. And thou sayest, That Christ is in heaven, and not in earth.  
Rep. And here thou hast cleared thyself to be a Reprobate.  
Ob. And thou sayest, How shall they preach, except they be sent?  
Rep. And before thou denied'st as hearing any voice from heaven, and denied immediate inspiration, and how dost thou exalt Christ, and knows him not? and the framing of a Christ shall stand for thy own condition, who art without; and Saul seeing Samuel, indeed saw the Devil, and talked with him, and had fellowship with him, but saw not Samuel.  
Ob. And thou sayest, You do not give your assurance, but you conceive.  
Rep. Let all people see if thy preaching be not fancy, and no assurance, and to be scattered among the proud, who live in their imaginations and conceivings, and hast cleared thyself from the eternal Spirit, and canst give no testimony of that which was from the beginning.  
Ob. And thou sayest, Thou givest not thine own assurance, but you conceive and speak of the Apostles assurance.  
Rep. Let the Apostles assurance alone, for that we own, who wi●ness assurance, but deny thy conceivings.  
Query 10. Whether you have this word which was from the beginning, and this Life manifest unto you, which was to the Apostles, and if it be, why do you take a text from the Letter, and preach from it, and show the people that letter.  
Ans. And thy answer is, Th●s Word, and this Life, which is Christ made manifest in the flesh; and thou sayest, The design in this question is to draw all persons from all that is written, to depend upon an unwritten word, something within them, the word from the beginning, and is the Life, and is manifest, as they gave it out.  
Rep. This word is owned among them you call Quakers, which was from the beginning, which all the Apostles spoke from, which is immediate, which thou hast cleared thyself from, and shows, that thou hast nothing but the letter which is death, and feeds people with that.  
Object. And thou sayest, this sort of men which hath the immediate word, doth the devil show his spite, spleen, and malice against the holy Scriptures.  
Rep. Here I charge thee in the presence of the Lord to be a liar, and in that state thyself, for where the immediate word is, which was in the beginning, which gave forth the Scriptures, it owns every tittle of it again, and many Scriptures hast thou wrested for the taking of a Text, which Christ and the Apostles spoke of the fulfilling of the Scriptures, and shown the fulfilling of the Scriptures, and to bring men to Christ out of the letter into that thing the letter speaks of, that they might not live in the oldness of the letter, but in the newness of the spirit.  
Ob. And thou sayest, you take a text, because the whole w●ll of God, and mind of Christ, is left you in letters, which is now left us in words and letters in the Evangelists and Apostles writings, and so you take a text from the letter, and if the Gospel be hid, it is hid from you that are lost, whom the God of the world hath blinded the mind of them that believe not.  
Rep. Here thou speakest thou knowst not what, for if all should have been written which Christ spoke forth, the world could not contain the books that might have been written of him, and many could speak of his word, but had not his mind, therefore they persecuted him as thou dost, and there thou showest thyself to be him whom the God of the world hath blinded the mind who hath the letter of the Gospel, but not that which it speaks of the Gospel, the glad tidings, the Son that was given, but that is without thee, and the letters of it thou hast, but not the Gospel.  
Object. And thou sayest, Saints do not as yet see Christ, and yet Abraham saw his days.  
Rep. What confused stuff is this that comes out of thy bo●tle? these are thy Saints which do not see Christ, and how dost thou exalt him? The Saints witness Christ in them, the mystery, the hope of glory, but thou hast cleared thyself from this Christ, from this mystery, from this hope of glory, to be a Reprobate and an Anti-christ, and from the faith of Abraham.  
Query 11. And show me where the Prophets did take a text and preach from it, but only Christ read a place, and said it was fulfilled, who said, he was anointed to preach, and which of you can witness you are anointed to preach by the living God, yea or no?  
Ans. And in thy answer to this Query thou speakest, whom God calls out to be to the body in place of eyes to guide and direct them, and before you denied as hearing any such voice as from God.  
Reply. Here all people may see thy folly, and thou dost not say, that you are anointed to preach by the living God, or how canst thou who hast denied his voice, or immediate inspiration.  
Obj. And thou sayest, the Prophets did take no text, but laid the foundation.  
Reply. And here thou hast cleared thyself from the Prophets, Christ the Foundation; and though Christ did read, who fulfilled the Prophets, who prophesied of him, and Moses who wrote of him, for he was the substance and the end; and though they had Synagogues, and Temple, and Sabbath Day, to read Moses, the Law, and the Prophets. When Christ was come, and sacrificed up, and who believed, and received him, had received the end of the Law, the end of the Prophets, and the end of the Sabbath, and they went into the Synagogues, showing the people the substance of what they had read, and to bring them of the Temple the Sabbath days, and observing of times, which in all thy words thou clearest thyself from that life and doctrine, but would keep people in observing of days and times, and places; and so shows thyself in the dark generation, living long in a text, and not witnessing it fulfilled, as Christ did.  
Obj. And thou sayest, Christ might have discoursed of a subject many months, who came to fulfil what was written of him.  
Reply. Here you would make Christ like thyself, who art unlearned, discoursing with thy carnal mind upon that which was given forth by an Eternal Spirit, who art for death and destruction.  
Quer. 12. Tell me, why you sing David's Conditions and Experiences in Moeter, and when you read them, hats you put on, and when you sing them, hats you put off.  
Ans. And thy answer is, David's Conditions and Experien●e● are many times your own.  
Reply. And before thou denies as hearing God's voice, and how canst thou know David's conditions, who heard the voice of God in the holy Temple, and thou denies hearing of God's voice; but abundance of words thou hast heaped up together, and wouldst make the Saints singing like thine, who sung with the spirit, and with understanding.  
Obj. And again thou sayest, God would have you in your meetings to rejoice.  
Reply. Thou liar, How knowest thou the mind of God, and never heardst his voice, who hist openly showed thyself to be a Heathen, who knows not God, who knows nothing of the rejoicing, and singing in spirit; and what hast thou to do to talk of the Church of God, which is the pillar and ground of truth, who denies the voice of God, and immediate inspiration which is both in the Church of God.  
Obj. And as concerning putting on hats, when you read, and putting them off when you sing: Then sayest you shall not much contest.  
Reply. Then you must confess it to be a tradition, and that you worship the works of your own hands, and yet thou goest about to justify it who art mudled in thy confused generation, who would have the hat put off, when thou prayest with a part of the scripture, and when thou readest part of the scripture to put thy hat on. See if this be not thy own tradition.  
Obj. And as for singing David's Psalms in meeter, thou sayest, the Hebrews had their Poetry, and it is suitable for every Nation to have their own Poet, and particular Poetry to themselves to praise God, and Meeter is congruous, as thou sayest, to our English Poetry.  
Reply. And this is all thy conjured stuff, and likenesses, who give● every Nation liberty, who art in the Nations, and stands up for thy own, who hast cleared thyself from the spirit which the Saints sung withal in understanding, who comes to be redeemed from Nations which yet thou art in, and languages in the customs of the Nations, which who sing praises to God, are redeemed from, and so thou maintains thy own customs and traditions: but the Church of God slander not; for they deny your Customs, and your Ordinances, which God never commanded, and there is no difference between your postures, and the worlds, nor your singing, and the worlds; but there is a difference between your singing and the Saints, which knew God, and heard his voice, and sung with the spirit, but thou hast denied the immediate inspiration of the spirit, and so thou caused not sing with that spirit the Saints sung withal.  
Quer. 13. Whether you do know the voice of Christ, from the voice of a stranger: My sheep know my voice, saith Christ, seeing you are so forward to judge, and sit as Judges of the Saints conditions.  
Ans. And thy answer is, That which Christ preached, and the Prophets, and Apostles, which is left upon record, which, you have in the Scriptures, that is, that voice of Christ, and with it you are able to distinguish from the voice of a stranger.  
Reply. Here you show yourselves that you have the form, but not the power; for many come to speak the Prophet's words, and use their tongues, and say, he saith, when saith the Lord, I never spoke to them: and this is your condition, who hath the letter, as the Jews had, which knew not the voice of Christ, nor with the letter can you know his voice, and there you are.  
Obj. And thou sayest, this immediate voice you have not heard, neither do you know it within yourselves experimentally, neither do you wait for it; for you know it is not the voice of Christ.  
Reply. Here you have cleared yourselves from the voice of Christ, and to be strangers, which never heard the voice of Christ, which is immediate; for you deny hearing this immediate voice within, and so denies Christ to be within, and show yourselves to be reprobates. And you show yourselves to be in the state of the Jews, which knew not the voice of Christ which was immediate, but judged it to be of the Devil, as you do.  
Obj. And this immediate voice you bless yourselves from, and say, It is the voice of the Devil, and say you have never heard the Devil's voice, nor seen his shape, and yet you plead for sin as long as you are here.  
Reply. And is not sin the shape of the Devil? and you that plead for sin, that is, the voice of the Devil in you, and not the voice of Christ; for the voice of Christ testifies against all sin, and here you show that you never heard the voice of Christ, which is immediate, but only hath the letter, as the devil hath to bring, and the form, and calls that the Voice of Christ, and here you show yourselves to be natural men, not knowing any thing of the immediate Voice of Christ, but judgeth it of the devil.  
Query 14. Whether that within you which judgeth, be eternal and infallible, yea or no?  
Ans. And thy answer is, That that Spirit which we profess to be the Spirit of Christ, is that Spirit of delusion, which doth all things in us.  
Rep. O thou deceiver, who knows not the letter, doth not the Scriptures say they, were led by the Spirit, and the fruits of the Spirit, and the Comforter which was to come should lead them into all truth, and they denied themselves with the Spirit for doing any thing; and here thou hast cleared thyself from the Spirit of Christ, and art in thy own Spirit of Error.  
Object. Thou sayest, though the Spirit of Christ, which i● eternal and infallible dwell in the Saints, yet it must not judge of persons and things after an infallible manner, that they should neither say, nor do, nor judge any thing by any understanding of their own, but this Spirit, this we do deny, for the Apostle speaks of himself, When he would do good, evil is present.  
Rep. Here I charge thee in the presence of the Lord to be pleading for the Devil and self, and denies the Spirit of Christ, and shows thyself to be in the state of the Wolves which Christ speaks of, which should come in sheep's clothing, who hath showed forth thy fruit to be of the corrupt tree, who hath cleared thyself from the spiritual man which judgeth all things.  
Object. And thou speakest of Antichrists denying the Father and the Son, and false Teachers, bringing in damnable heresies, denying the Lord that bought them.  
Rep. These words shall stand for thyself, which thou accusest others withal, for thou hast denied, as hearing any immediate Voice from God, from heaven, or any immediate inspiration of the Spirit; and here thou hast denied both the Father and the Son, for his voice is immediate, and he that hath the Son hath the Father also, and he that hath not the Son of God, hath not life (He that hath an ear to hear, let him hear) and in thy answer to this Query thou showest thyself to be carnal, who hath nothing but the letter to judge withal, and hast denied the eternal spirit which judgeth all things.  
Query 15. What are the Ordinances which are ordained of God, that those which you call Quakers deny, or when did God command you to observe them, as to sprinkle infants, to pray before and after Sermons as you call them, or to set times, and days, and hours, which was in the Generation wh●●h was enemies to Christ, who observed such things.  
Query 16. Where these Ordinances of God be, which you speak of, and where God commanded them, and to whom, which you say, them you call Quakers deny, mention them in particular, and declare them openly in writing, and give our accusing.  
Ans. In thy answer to these two Queries, thou sayest, we are against ●ll outward teaching.  
Reply. We are against a public prayer, which is in the state of the Pharisees, which Christ forbids, but the praying with the Spirit we own, and we are against sprinkling Infants, for there is no Scripture for it, but the Baptism of the Spirit we own, and we are against all your singing David's quakings, tremble, prayers praises, and prophecies in M●eter, but the singing with the Spirit we own, and all your performing Religion in your set hours, days, and times, we are against, for that which is pure performs Religion, and this is the pure Religion which keeps unspotted from the world, therefore we do declare against your Traditions, not to be Ordinances of Christ, but the Ordinances of Christ we own.  
Object. And something in answer to your own practice, concerning sprinkling of Infants, is this: First for the act of sprinkling, thou sayest, something may be held forth, though you use it not.  
Reply. And here thou art confused, you would go to hold up something for your own practice, and yet thou sayest, you do not use it.  
Object. And thou bringest the blood of Christ which is called the blood of sprinkling, and thou sayest, seeing water in Baptism be sprinkled, and the subject types of Christ's blood.  
Reply. Here thou hast made this type, Christ made it not, neither is there any such types made in the Scripture, neither any such seal as sprinkling infants,  
Object. And thou sayest, as for sprinkling Infants, something may be held forth for it, the blood of Christ called the blood of sprinkling.  
Rep. Here thou wouldst set the sprinkling of Infants above the Blood of Christ, and make the blood of Christ of none effect, and make the blood of Christ a figure of sprinkling Infants, but the blood of Christ we own, and deny thee and thy holdings forth, who would make the substance a figure or a type sprinkling Infants, and many Scriptures you bring, but not a word to justify sprinkling Infants, and fain you would bring some Scriptures to cover thee, but there is not one will witness thee in the Scriptures for sprinkling Infants.  
Object. And whereas thou bring'st Gen. 17. ver. 7. as concerning God establishing his promise to his seed.  
Rep. Thou liar, here I charge thee in the presence of the Lord to pervert the Scriptures; doth that Scripture speak of sprinkling Infants, there is not such a word in it, who makes people blind like thyself, and wouldst make them, but God hath raised up a light in the hearts of his people that doth discover thee.  
Object. And thou bring'st Exod. 12.48. which there is not a word in it to justify sprinkling Infants, and thou bring'st Deut. 19.10.11. Jer. 31.34.  
Rep. I charge thee in the presence of the Lord to be a liar, for in all these Scriptures there is not a word that speaks of sprinkling Infants, but thou liar and Sorcerer goes about to bewitch people with thy Enchantments, but thy Whoredoms are discovered, and Acts 22.16. thou pervertest, there is not a word in it of sprinkling Infants, and Acts 2.38. which thou wouldst pervert: And here again I charge thee to be a liar, for those Scriptures do not speak of sprinkling Infants, and to the state of Simon Magns thou art not yet come, to witness that Baptism, as he did, but art in thy Sorcery, and so as thou made a type, thou art now making Seals and Covenants, and thy sprinkling Infants is a Seal of thy Covenants, which there is not a word in Scripture for. Again, Gen. 17.7. thou perverts the Scriptures to maintain sprinkling Infants, which there is not a word in Scripture to justify it; and Rom. 4.11. thou bring'st to justify sprinkling Infants, which there is not one word for it; and Heb. 10.16. thou bring'st to justify sprinkling Infants, which there is not one word for it; and Jer. 33.33. thou bring'st to justify it, where there is not so many verses in it, not 33. Col. 2.11. thou bring'st also to justify sprinkling Infants, which speaks not one word for it; and Exod. 12.48. over again, once would have served thee to prove thyself a liar; and Deut. 9.10.11. thou bring'st over again to prove thyself a liar withal, for there is not one word to justify it; and thou bring'st Mat. 7.4. for the application of Water; and here I charge thee in the presence of the Lord to be a liar, and a wrester, and a perverter of the Scriptures, for not one word in all these Scriptures doth speak of sprinkling infants, who would have a cloak, but canst get none, and calls these the Ordinances of Christ, which are none, for the Ordinances of Christ we own, and Baptism we own, but thy Traditions we deny.  
Object. And in thy answer concerning praying afore and after Sermon.  
Rep. Thou bring'st the Saint's conditions, the Apostles praying, and the Saints to justify thy own, who a●t in the state of the Pharisees, and so puts no difference between the holy and profane, betwixt the precious and the vile, and so shows thyself to be a false Prophet among the false Prophets, for as thou confesses, thou never heard the Voice of God, and denies immediate inspiration: And what hast thou to do to pray or talk of the Church of Christ, the Apostles conditions, who hast showed thyself to be an hypocrite, for God hears not hypocrites, and we do believe and know, that you never heard his Voice, and here thou showest thy prayers are abomination to him; therefore I charge thee in the presence of the Lord to let the Saints conditions and prayers alone, for God heareth the righteous, but accepts not the prayers of the wicked, who art not come so far as Balaam, for he heard the Voice of God; therefore because the Saints prayed, which you would bring their conditions for thy praying afore and after Sermon, and there is no Scripture will cloak you.  
Object. And whereas thou sayest women are not suffered to teach.  
Rep. And did not Christ send a woman to teach, and did he not say his Daughters shall Prophecy, thou art the woman that art forbidden to teach, who confesses you never heard God's Voice, nor immediate inspiration, therefore silence flesh before the Lord, but the Apostles and Saints praying we own.  
Object. And whereas thou sayest we are against that which the Saints used.  
Rep. Here I charge thee to be a liar, for the Saints practices we own, but thy performances we deny.  
Object. And thou sayest, we might be convinced that you are not in the condition of the Jews hours and prayers.  
Rep. We find you in the same nature, though under another colour, and enemies to Christ.  
Object. And thou brings Acts 3.  
Rep. That will fit and maintain thee in the Jews estate, all people take notice, the Apostles did not go up to uphold the Jews hours and prayers, but to bring them off those things; and here thou hast uttered forth thy folly.  
Object. And thou sayest, They strike at godliness.  
Rep. Here I charge thee in the presence of God to be a liar.  
Object. And whereas thou sayest, If they can but destroy all forms, the power will fall with it.  
Rep. And here thou hast uttered forth thy folly indeed, and blasphemy, as though the form was before the power, and here thou hast showed thou hast no power, but the form, as the Apostles speaks of, so thou plead'st for days, and hours, and months, which the Apostles speaks against: And here thou hast cleared thyself from the Doctrine of the Apostles, and the Lords day we own, f●r all is the Lords, and the Saints meeting we own, but thine we do deny, who denies immediate inspiration: And what hast thou to do to talk of the Apostles meeting the first day of the week, and worship of God, who denies immediate inspiration, and hearing God's voice, and denies immediate teaching, for God is a Spirit, and they that worship him, must worship him in spirit and truth, and that thou canst not, who denies immediate teaching, thou hast got a likeness of a Church, and so imitates the Apostles meetings, the first day of the week, and so hast got the form, and not the power; and because the Saints meet on the first day, from their words thou gathers likeness, which is forbidden, and what Scriptures hast thou, that it is named the Lords day, when the Supper is nominated the Supper of the Lord we own, and the day of the Lord, but thou knowest nothing of the Supper of the Lord, nor the day.  
Obj. And in thy answer, thou wouldst make people believe we deny prayer.  
Rep. And in that thou art a liar, and what hast thou to do to talk of Abraham, and holy men of God, who denies hearing the Voice of God, and denies immediate Inspiration, which the holy men of God witnessed.  
Object. And thou talk'st of Jacob purging away the Idols, and reforming his family.  
Rep. O man! look at home, and pu●ge away the Idols from thyself, for David and Jacob we own; and do witness, and the Saints will not deny prayers but such as thine, who prayest and never heard the Voice of God, nor immediate inspiration, as thou hast confessed it, and dost not look for it, and what good will all thy prayers do thee evening and morning? we witness the Apostles words, pray always, and praise with the spirit and understanding: Here thou hast showed thyself, as the Priests of Baal, who cut themselves, who fasts; and yet thou sayest, let us seek God's face in prayer, and denies hearing Gods Voice.  
Query 17. Whether do you not seduce the people, to draw them from the anointing within them, when John saith, They need no man to teach them, but as the anointing, and the promise was eternal life to him that did abide in the anointing.  
Ans. In thy answer to this Query, thou sayest, the word that Christ preached was outward.  
Rep. And here I charge thee in the presence of the Lord to be a liar; for he said the word which he spoke, was spirit and life, and here thou draws people from the anointing to the Satanical delusion, as thou calls it, and publishes lies.  
Obj. And thou sayest, John's Ministry was outward, and yet he came in the spirit, and power.  
Reply. What confused stuff is this? Here I charge thee again to be a liar: John's teaching we witness, and Christ's teaching we witness, and deny thine which is outward, and thou must needs be there; for thou denies immediate inspiration, who draws people from the inward to the outward; Here thou shows what thou art, if there had been no reply, and who puts no difference betwixt ears; for there are ears, and hears not, and there are ears which hear: and here thou shows thyself to be a false prophet, who saith they are seduced, which are drawn from the external means which is earthly, let all people see, if you be not that wi●ch that the Scripture speaks of that bewithed the Galatians, in drawing them from the spirit within to observe circumcision without them who draws to the external, who saith to wait for the receiving of the Spirit without any word, is delusion; Here thou goes about to make the Word and the Spirit two.  
Obj. And thou sayest, One was newly redeemed out of the hellish captivity.  
Reply. He is fit to be Ambassador of thy Church, a drunkard, one of thy redeemed one's: There was a Warrant granted out against him; for drunkenness fence he was redeemed, as thou calls it.  
Obj. And thou pleads much for man's teaching.  
Reply. Here thou shows plainly, that thou art a Minister made by the will of man, when Paul declares that he was not made a Minister by the will of man, but by the will of God: and here thou hast cleared thyself plainly from being a Minister made by the Will of God, or taught of him.  
Obj. And thirdly, thou sayest, The words, You need not any man teach you, but as the anointing teacheth you, is an byperbolycal expression.  
Reply. Here I charge thee again to pervert the Apostles words.  
Obj. And thou sayest, the Apostle tells them, they knew all things, and thou sayest, is is an excessive speech.  
Reply. And so thou goes about to make the Apostle a liar, and are giving a meaning to his words, and wouldst give a comparative sense, as thou callest it to it, and here thou showest openly, that thou dost both add, wrist, and pervert the Apostles words, who shows thyself openly to be deceived, who art giving private interpretations to the Scripture, when the Scripture saith, there is none, and thou art perverting the Lords words, who saith, they shall all know him from the greatest to the least, they shall not need to teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother; for they shall all know me from the greatest to the least of them, saith the Lord.  
Obj. And thou sayest, there is no such measure of the spirit that can thrust out outward teaching, while we are here.  
Reply. Here thou high blasphemer, hast denied the everlasting Covenant of God, and while thou art there, thou shalt never know it.  
Obj. And thou sayest there is no such Scripture as to abide in the anointing, that the Promise was Eternal life to him that did.  
Reply. And here thou dost neither understand the anointing, nor the Scripture.  
Quer. 18. Whether you do not bewitch the people, and draw them from the Spirit of God within you, to observe those things which God never commanded, to tell the people of a Sacrament, and following your outward teaching, who stands praying in the Synagogues, and art called of men Master, which Christ did forbid, Mat. 23. And have the chiefest places in the Assemblies. Whether these be not Antichrists which act contrary to the Commands of Christ, yea or no.  
Ans. In thy Answer to this Query, thou sayest, They strike at Pastors, and Elders.  
Reply. Here thou art a liar; for the Query doth not mention Pastors, or Elders.  
Obj. And why dost thou say, they speak of the Synagogues in a derisive way, and that the title of Masters, and assuming the chiefest places in the Assemblies, to be ambition.  
Reply. And this thou seeks to clear and justify, which Christ cried woe against, and shows thyself to be in the state of the Scribes and Pharisees, as you may read, Mat. 23. Let the letter judge thee, if thou wilt own the Scripture. And doth not Christ cry woe against them that are called of men Master, and have the chiefest place in the Assemblies, stand praying in the Synagogues: H●re ●hou shows thyself to be an opposer of Christ's words, who would justify the world's practice, which he cried woe against, and so thou art a friend to the world, and an enemy to Christ.  
Obj. And thou sayest concerning the Sacrament, there is no Ordinance a foot amongst us which we call by that name, though there might be a defence for it.  
Reply. Here thou shows thyself where thou was b●fore, in making a defence for that which is not, which ●here is no Scripture for: And what hast thou to do to talk of Ordinances, the Blood of Christ, and the Seals, and the Faith, and the Covenant of God, who denies his voice, and all who are taught of God, hear his voice, and who are sealed, are sealed with the Spirit, but thou denies the immediate inspiration; and here thou clearest thyself from the Seals, from the Covenant, who saith men must be taught; for all who are brought into the Covenant, are taught of God, and hear his voice, and need no man teach them, which you deny: Oh Lucifer like, who talks of these things, and cannot witness any of them but ar● justifying Synagogues, standing p●aying there, which the Pharisees did: O thou Fox, thou are found out in all thy holes; we who witness the B●ood of Christ, the Covenant, the Seals, and the Supper of the Lord, deny all these things which you and the Pharisees held up which Christ cried woe against, and here thou art reckoned, and found amongst those despisers of the grace of God, which never heard ●●s voice, as thou sayest, amongst the greatest sinners whichever blasphemed Christ, though they pro●ess●d him in words, ●o dost thou, the world may justify th●●e, but that Christ which the Scripture speaks of, if you w●ll own the Scriptures, do●h condemn thee, who holds up, and pleads for these things, which he cries woe against.  
Obj. Secondly, And for thy justification of outward teaching, thou sayest, it is the power of God to salvation.  
Reply. Here I charge thee in the presence of the Lord to be a liar, and knows not what thou speaks; is the power of God outward, and salvation, which is a Mystery? and here thou hast shut thyself out from the Mystery, and art in thy will, and a Minister made by the will of man, which is outward. Paul who was a Minister of the Spirit, which was not outward, made by the will of God: here thou hast shut thyself from the Minister of the Spirit, which ministers to the Spirit in prison, and art a Minister of the Letter made by the will of man, and holden up by man, and thou wrists many Scriptures for to justify the outward teaching, as Mat. 4.13, 14. Acts 26.16, 17, 18. and many other Scriptures, and so pu●s no difference betwixt the Ministers of the world, which is outward, and Christ's Ministers, and the Apostles, which is immediate, and inward by the Spirit, and shows thou art not yet come to repentance, to discern the right hand from the left, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear what the Spirit saith, and that's not outward; And what hast thou to do to talk of the Apostles preaching? Let the Apostles preaching alone; for they denied the Pharisees teaching, I command thee in the presence of the Lord.  
Obj. And thou sayest, the Apostle saith, He rejoiced though some preach Christ from an envious spirit.  
Reply. Here thou adds to the Apostles words; all people read Psal. 1.18. though the Apostle did say then, Some preach Christ of envy, some of strife, some of contention: yet that was a time when few did believe, that that was the Christ, so his Name was spread abroad, he rejoiced in it; but when his Name was spread abroad, and covetous men, and proud men, as thou art, and heady men, and men that followed pleasures, had got the form, but had not the power: which led silly women captive, always learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth, which thou shows thyself to be one of them; and the Apostle exhorts from such to turn away, 2 Tim. 3.1. And what hast thou to do to talk of Christ, and his Disciples, and Moses, these had the immediate inspiration which thou denies, who hast gotten the outward form and words of Christ, and the Disciples, as the Pharisees had gotten the form of Moses, and the Prophets; and there thou art judged withal, who hath the Eternal Spirit, the life of them that gave forth the Scriptures.  
Obj. Whereof thou art giving senses of the end of the world.  
Reply. Silence sense and consequence; for that proceeds from the world in thy heart, for there it is set, for thou confesses thou dost not know the voice of God, who art lost in thy senses, nor never shall in that nature who denies immediate inspiration, and so denies the life of the Scripture, and shuts thyself out; For Christ is the same yesterday, to day, and for ever. And his teachers are the same, with the same Spirit, and all thy whole intent is as to keep people from the voice of G●d, and immediate inspiration, and to keep the Letter, and to make Ministers, with it, which is outward as thou calls it.  
Obj. And whereas thou sayest, Christ ascended on high, and hath given gifts unto men.  
Reply. These words will condemn thee; are these gifts outward? thou art talking of an outward, these words Pastors and Teachers, are the Saints words, and ours, we own th●m but we deny thee, and all thy filthy stuff of consequences, and senses of the Saints conditions.  
Obj. And whereas thou sayest, Till the Saints come to the state of perfection.  
Reply. And again thou denies it, and saith, None can attain to it in this world; and here the Scripture will judge thee to be a liar, which thou sayest, is thy rule; for the Scripture saith, As he is, so are we in this present world.  
Obj. And thou sayest, but Ministerial gifts are not to be found in the world which the Ministers of the Gospel had.  
Rep. Here to the view of all people thou hast brought thyself un-the curse, for if it be not the same M●n●stery and the same gifts, it is another; therefore silence flesh, let the Apostles alone, command and charge thee in the presence of the Lord, who sayest, the gifts are not now to be found in the world, which the Ministers of the Go●pel had; here thou hast cleared thyself, and thy generation from them, if it be not the same, it is another, which is contrary; and here thou showest thyself to be the w●●ch that bewitches people.  
Object. Which saith, there is now no such gifts as they had, which were Ministers of the Spirit, nor any such Pastors, Officers and Teachers now as was then.  
Rep. Here again I charge thee in the presence of the Lord to be a liar, who hath shut thyself in the state of the Pharisees, hath cleared thyself from the Church of God, Pastors, Officers, and Teachers, for the Officers, Pastors, and Teachers are the same now which ever was, we witness it, and witness thee to be a liar, and all that are not the same Officers, Pastors, Teachers, and Ministers of the Spirit, are accused, which thou and all thy Generation are guilty of, who are not the same Officers, Pastors, Teachers, and Ministers as was then and if not the same, than they are contrary to Scriptures, and here let the Scriptures condemn thee and them, and here thou deniest your self; to be any Pastors, Teachers of the Church of Christ, who saith there is none such now as was then, and we witness the Church of Christ the Pillar and ground of truth, to be the same now as ever was, and the same Officers, Pastors, Ministers, and Teachers of the Spirit as ever was, and yours thou sayest is not the same, therefore they are all false, contrary to the Scriptures, contrary to the Gospel, therefore the curse is upon thee, who sayest, they are not the same now as was then, we witness Christ the same yesterday, to day, and for ever, and what hast thou to do to talk of establishing truth, which says, Officers are not the same now as was then, than the truth is not the same, nor the Gospel; there thou showest thyself to be a gainsayer, and what hast thou to do to talk of qualifications, who would make truth changeable, truth changes not.  
Obj. And as thou sayest, you reason there is no believers in these latter ages, because thou sayest, they shall cast out devils, and speak with new tongues.  
Reply. In thy generation there is not, but they which believe now speak with new tongues, and cast out devils, that makes thee to vent forth thy blasphemy against them that doth, and here thou showest thyself to be an unbeliever, let the Scriptures judge thee.  
Object. And thou sayest, The Apostle requires a waiting upon an outward teaching and exhorting.  
Reply. Here thou wouldst judge the Apostles teaching, which is immediate, to be like thyself which are carnal, and without, who denies ●here is any such Officers, Pastors, and Teachers now as was then: Here thou provest thyself to be a Witch, who draws people into another thing, as thou declarest in the 47. page of thy book, in thy answer to the eighteenth Query.  
Obj. And thou talk'st of waiting upon the office, and living upon the Gospel, a temporary and transitory Gospel, and yet thou deniest the same Officers and Teachers as was then.  
Reply. There thou art without in another temporary and transitory Gospel, as thou call'st it.  
Obj. And whereas thou sayest, In these day's th●y shall heap up to themselves Teachers.  
Rep. This is thyself, O yourselves, who saith, Teachers are not the same now as was then, and here thou comest under the Prophecy that Paul speaks to Timothy, 1 Tim. 2.4. for thou confesses they are not such as was then.  
Object. Whereas thou sayest, Can any rational person conceive, how preaching is like to be kept up?  
Rep. The preaching of Christ is kept up without thy conceiving, for it is not any rational person that keeps up preaching, who lives in the conceivings: And again, thou clearest thyself from the Ministers of Christ, who were made Ministers by the will of God, and thou who deniest the same teachings to be now as was then, art one amongst those Teachers that follows their own lusts, fancies, and fables, and cannot endure sound Doctrine, having itching ears, turning to fables from the truth, thou hast confessed there is no such Teachers now as was then, therefore thou and thy company art another in your own w●lls, out of the will of God, distant from truth, and to be them that Peter and the Apostle prophesied of, which should come in the last time, following your fancies, senses, and consequences, which the eternal Spirit that gave forth the Scriptures ever judged and condemned such.  
Object. And whereas thou sayest, Thou wouldst have them first proved before approved, and thou allegest 1 Tim. 3.10.  
Rep. And thou deniest that Office that was then, that there is none such now, and here thou art disapproved with the Scriptures, for it disapproves thee, 1 Tim. 3.10. and in the 47. page of thy book.  
Object. And in the third particular thou art justifying, standing, praying in the Synagogues, and thou bring'st Solomon's examples, who pray●● in the behalf of Israel.  
Reply. Here thou showest thyself plainly to be a false Prophet indeed, who puts no difference between Solomon's praying, and the Pharisees, who stood praying in the Synagogues.  
Object. And whereas thou accusest us, that we are against praying.  
Reply. Here thou dost lie, thy praying we deny, who puts no difference between the Heathen and the Saints, but the Saints pravers we own, and solomon's praying we own.  
Object And thou sayest, Your places cannot hardly be called as the Jews Synagogues was, for it was not erected for any spiritual use.  
Rep. No more is yours, for thou deniest immediate inspiration, and they that did witness immediate inspiration, was persecuted in the Jews Synagogues; the Saints which meet together in the eternal word denied all the Jews practices, which met together in such a man's ●ouse.  
Object. Fourth particular, and thou dost lie, in saying we would have no meetings.  
Rep. Because we do deny such Teachers as thou art, and such practices as thou practiseth, and such meetings, who confesses, that you are not the same Pastors and Teachers now as then, so than your meetings are not the same; but the Teachers as was then we own, and the meetings as was then we own, for truth changes not: But here thou showest, that thou art changed from it, who hath confessed, that your Teachers is not the same.  
Object. F●fth particular, thou sayest, we are cavilling at places, and strikes at persons.  
Reply. Thou may'st as well say Christ cavelled at persons; do not speak Christ's words, who art thou, that thou carest oppose him, who said, they was called of men Master, have the chiefest places in the Assemblies, stand praying in the Synagogues, and thus he shows to the multitude how they may be known, and here thou art known, and seen, who would justify that which Christ cried against in thy ambition, and saith, you have not cause to reject those things he cried woe against, as to be called of men Master, and have the chiefest places in the Assemblies, those things spoke Jesus to the multitude, and the multitude seeing his word, as thou may'st read in Mat. 23. if you will own the Scriptures to be truth, and thou bring'st Philip, and the Goalor came to Paul and Silas, and said Sirs, and these words thou bring'st to oppose Christ's words, who said, be ye not called of men Masters: And here thou declarest rhy self to be an open Antichrist, who opposes Christ: I charge thee in the presence of the Lord, for Christ saith, be not ye called of men Master, for ye have one Master, even Christ, and all ye are Brethren, and thou bring'st the Goalors' words to oppose Christ, Acts 16.30. Christ's Doctrine denied to be called of men Master.  
Object. And thou sayest, That in Mat. 23. those words will stand us in no steed, which were Christ's words.  
Rep. Here thou dost say Christ's words will stand us in no stead, thou deniest his Doctrine, and teacheth for Doctrine the Traditions of men, and there thou showest another Doctrine which is damnable and cursed.  
Object. And thou sayest, The title of Mastery is a civil respect, and importts a civil honour.  
Rep. Here thou showest the Master thou serves, who denies the Doctrine of Christ, and how canst thou believe, which seeks honour of another.  
Object. And whereas thou sayest, It is a mere slander to speak against them who have the chiefest places in the Assemblies, and art called of men Master.  
Rep. Here thou mightst as well call Christ a slanderer, who spoke against all those things which thou seekest to justify in the sight of the world, but in the sight of God is condemned, and of all who are of God, and by them thou art judged.  
Object. And whereas thou sayest, The Apostle saith, giving honour, go one before another.  
Rep. What hast thou to do to talk of the Apostle, who denies the same teaching to be now as was then, for the condition we own, which must be honoured? But thou hast declared thou never heard'st God's voice, nor waits for it, and so declares thyself to be a Heathen that knows not God, to whom he will render vengeance in flames of fire, and that is not honoured of God, nor none of his, but we honour all men in the Lord.  
Obj. And whereof thou accusest us of destroying relation.  
Reply. All such relations as is contrary to Christ, and his Doctrine, we deny; And who would take the ●itle from Christ to be called of men Master, and layest thou wilt not reject it; h●re thou shows forth thy presumption to be called of m●n Master, let all people see if you own that Christ which the Scripture speaks of, who forbade it, Mat 23. Bu● you would take the title from him who art for destruction, who shows that Christ never sent thee, for if he had, you would abide in his Doctrine, which thou dost deny, and who takes the Apostles words to justify that to oppose Christ's words, who spoke to them that were in the state of servants and Masters. Earth makes Masters, but the time will come as with the Master, so with the servant; he that can receive it, let him, as Philemon, Paul's doctrine to him, who can receive it, may.  
Quer. 19 Whether a man shall ●v●r grow up that he need no man teach him under your Ministry yea, or no, seeing the Apostle saith, You need no man teach you, and you which have been long teachers, how many have you brought up in this condition?  
Ans. And in thy answer to this Query, thou sayest, Such opposition as excludes all humane helps, you do confess, That no man is ever like to grow up so high.  
Reply. Here thou art not so far as some of thy fellows; for they deny humane helps, though they be in the same nature that t●ou art in; and he that grows up in perfection, grows out of ignorance and humane helps; the Apostles said, they knew all things, but this thou hast denied, and calls it an hyperbolyc●l expression.  
Obj. And thou sayest, they may grow in a sense under teaching of Ministers among you, to know all the truths of the Gospel, and yet thou denies immediate inspiration, and the same teaching ●ow as was then; and yet thou sayest in a comparative sense, they may not need teachers.  
Reply. This is thy sense who hast denied the Doctrine of C●●●●nd thy confused stuff which comes out of thy bottle, and Peter's Ex●ortation▪ and Paul's, thou hast chared thyself from, for thou sayest, the same t●●chings are not now ●s w●re 〈◊〉 and th● Church of Christ we d●●●●itness to be he p●liar and ground 〈◊〉 truth, which you ha●e c●ared yourselves from, and ●●om the Teachers, Past●●s, and Elders of it, who s●i●●, there is none such now, as were th●●, wh● would mak● truth changeable, and 〈◊〉 thou art a 〈◊〉 in thy own g●n●ra●ion, who knows not God manifested in flesh, justified inspirit, seen of Angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world.  
Obj. And you say you have answered our questions agreeable to the Scriptures.  
Reply. There is another lie, let the reader read them, and prove whether thou hast not spoken contrary to the Scriptures, and all thy consequences and senses are contradicted with us, and den●●d and trampled upon with all knowing Christians, who are in Christ; and thou art he whose desire is to destroy the Scriptures, who would subvert the faith of the Gospel, who leads people captive after thy own delusions, who hast denied Pastors, teachers, and Officers now, as in the time of the Aposti●s, and here you have cleared yourselves to be no Pastors, no E●●●rs, no Officers, but a likeness or an imag●, which Go● forbids; for thou sayest, there is not any suc● Officers P●stor, and teachers, as was then, than you are 〈◊〉 ●alse, and to b● denied, who are contrary to the Scriptures, for with it you are proved, and with the life judged: and your prayers we deny, for God hath opened our eyes, by which 〈…〉 you del●●ed poor creatures, who are thus sold under d●●usion, as thou 〈…〉, and God's E●ection thou knows nothing of, but are s●a●●d and ●●p 〈◊〉 by the Devil, who art led captive for the present after his will, this all who are in the Eternal light there will thee see.  
ANd Eton, thou saith, these things thou hast presented for this end and purpose, to obstruct their way, and stop their further proceed, that their imposture might prevail no longer.  
Here thou hast digged a pit, and art fallen into it, and laid a snare, and art taken; I take all the children of light to record, and with the light do judge thee, and to see if thou be not in the imposture, and an high imposture, and in the witchcraft.  
First, Thou dost assert, and thy company, that the Spirit of Christ is distinct from the Saints, and the Saints from the Spirit.  
Here thou hast cleared thyself from the Saints, who were in the Spirit, and to be an imposture; and this is in thy answer to the first Query.  
Secondly, Thou and you saith, That you do not apprehend, and speak right of God, and Christ, nor the Spirit, nor of yourselves, nor of the Ministry of the Gospel.  
Thou hast delared it, who saith that the Spirit is distinct from the Saints, and the Saints distinct from it, and thou not apprehending aright of God, and Christ, nor the Saints, and taking thyself to be a Pastor, thou haft openly deceived thyself to be an imposture, which art stopped, and shall proceed no further; and you not apprehending aright of yourselves, as thou saith you do not, declare yourselves to be blind guides, and not fit to teach others, that doth not know yourselves, but we know it is so, that you do not know yourselves, and this is in thy answer to the fourth Query.  
And thirdly, you say, That such a voice as comes immediately from God, you have not heard of, such an inspiration as this, you have not received.  
Thou that hast not received an immediate inspiration, and hast not heard the voice of the living God; here thou hast raked thyself from all that did hear the voice of God, and them that had received the immediate inspiration; here you have turned yourselves among the Impostures. Witches, and Sorcerers, which have not heard a word from the Lord, as thou thyself faith; Let all the children of the light judge thee, if thou be not an imposture, and a deceiver, but thou art made manifest to the children of light, praises be to our God, the living God, for ever. And this is in answer to the seventh Query.  
Fourthly, Thou sayest, there are no such Pastors now, no such Officers now, no such Teachers now, no such Miinisters of the Spirit now, nor no such gifts now, as was then.  
Here thou, and all thy Teachers, and Officers, and Pastors, are under the Prophecy, as Peter speaks of, and Paul speaks to Timothy, heaps of Teachers; and here thou thyself hast made them all Impostures, and Enchanters, and Sorcerers, and Charmers; if the Pastors be not now as was then, and the Teachers now as was then, and the Officers now as was then, they are not in the truth, for we do witness the same spirit, now as was then, and the Pastors and the Teachers the same now as was then, made by the same Spirit.  
But thou saith, There is none such, and we do believe it, and know it, that there is none such in thy generation, so thou hast cleared thyself, and all thy company out of the truth, and here thou wouldst make people believe, that the truth is changeable, and here thou showest that thou hast not the Spirit that the Apostles had, but the spirit of error, and guided by it, and impostures, and given over to fables; and this is in thy answer to the eighteenth Query.  
And for the Act of sprinkling Infants, thou sayest, Something may be held forth for it, the Blood of Christ.  
Here th●u makes the Blood of Christ a figure of sprinkling Infants, and the sprinkling of Infants must then be the substance, according to thy words; and yet thou com●s after, and speaks of Water, Baptism, Types of Christ's Blood; for there is no Scripture that speaks of sprinkling infants; and here thou art rasced out, and that which thou holds forth, which thou wouldst bring to justify sprinkling infant's: For the Blood of Christ is the Substance: this is in thy answer to the sixteenth Query.  
And thou sayest, Consequently God did not intent immediate teaching, nor to give out in after-ages an immediate voice, which should lead and guide men in the way of Salvation.  
O thou vain man, God will stop thy mouth, and thou must be confounded, who denies the everlasting Covenant of God, who saith he will teach his people, and make with them a new Covenant, that all shall know God: and he●e again before the Lord and all the children of God I charge thee, to be an imposture, and there all the children of the light may see thee, who are taught of God immediately, and directed, and guided in the way of salvation.  
Thou sayest, thou never heard the voice of God from Heaven, nor received the immediate inspiration, nor doth not wait for it.  
Let all the children of the light see if thou be not an imposture, who hath not heard a word from the Lord, and one of them that ●●ns before thou art sent, which the true Prophet cried against.  
And many Scriptures thou hast gathered out of the Letter, which wa● sent to thee in answer to thy Letter, which thou calls mire and dirt, which thou calls Annotations.  
Thou high blasphemer, who hath cleared thyself from the life which gave for h ●he Scriptures, which life reacheth over thee, and doth comprehend thee, and judge thee eternally; Let all the children of the l●ght, who are led by the E ernal Spirit of Go●, and dwell; Se● if thou be not in a pre●ence of Spirit, who denies the immediate inspiration of the Spirit, and hearing the vo●ce of God; Her● t●y spe●ch bewrays thee, and thy language is known with th● Eternal Spirit of God, where it is made manifest, and what sp●●●● it is that dwells in thee, and acts in thee, and rules thee, and t● be in the first birth, so in the snare thou art taken, and into the pit thou art turned, who saith these persons alone pretend the Spirit. That is false; for we do not pretend we have it, we witness it, and thy pretences we do deny.  
A●d another thing thou brings to fill up thy Book, and make it large; the confession of one Joh● Gilpin (a Quaker) Was John Gilpin come to the trembling of the Devil's? which power of God m●de ●●m to confess his f●rmer conversation, as in his paper he declares it, and to see the deceit of the Priests, and to forsake his drunkenness, and was he bewitched with such as thou art? who now follow drunkenness, and was drunk; that there was a warrant granted out against him, and this is one of thy converts, and one of thy sacrifices, that thou puts up to the supreme Authority, which the Authority strikes down all such things.  
And another Sacrifice thou offers up against them whom the world calls Quakers; a discovery of myst●cal Antichrist, displaying Christ's Banners, but attempting to lay waste Scripture, Gospel, Christ, Fa th', Hope, and concerning an Examination of the doctrine, and way of the Quakers in Yorkshire, written by John Pomroy, Paul Glissen, Joseph Kellet.  
We are acquainted with your generation, and your reproaches to us are riches, and your slanders; for them you will be rewarded, and your portion for your lies is the lake, and it's well they have set their names to these lies, John Pomroy, Paul Glissen, Joseph Kellet, that they may be known: For with the children of light they are, and their Spirit tried, had they not uttered forth their names, and their voice discerned, and the Eternal Light of God sees them, which shall be their eternal condemnation, and the Judgement of God will fall upon him for th' it lies, and slanders, for them that they call Quakers; ●usking we own, else we should lay waste the Scriptures, as you do: For David quaked, Moses quaked, and Paul trembled, and Habbakuk quivered, and Jeremy shaked, and these were in the faith, and hope, and these had the life of the Scriptures, according to their measure. Now let all people see, if John Pomroy, Paul Glissen, and Joseph Kellet, which have digged a p●t for others, see if they be not fallen into it themselves▪ who are laying waste the Scriptures; for the Gospel of Christ we own, and the Scriptures are ours, and the Doctrine of Christ we live in, and Faith, and Hope, and not laying waste the Scripture, but all such as make trades on the Scripture, such we would have laid waste.  
And thou Eton, and the rest, who saith there are no such Officers now, no such Teachers now, no such Pastors now, as was then: Dost not thou here lay waste the Scripture, and hast showed thyself to be one of them, and can imposture that what thou knows, thou knows naturally, which were ordained of old for condemnation, as Judas speaks of, for thou denies immediate inspiration, and thou denies hearing the voice of God, when Christ is the same to day, yesterday, and for ever; and they that are of God hear his word, and they that hear his word he●r his voice; and here thou hast showed thyself that thou art not of God, and the Gospel is the same, which is the pillar and ground of truth.  
And another thing, thou Eton, sets as a witness against them, whom thou calls Quakers, which word thou spoke in thy letter to Richard Walter, and thou saidst Satan had filled his heart with such fogs and mists, and darkness▪ and this is in thy page 56. and this is in thy own letter, which thou would●st slander us with thy own words, which came out of thy own bottle.  
But, O thou Enemy of good, thy door is set open, and what is in thy house is seen, and wh●● is in thy bottle pours out, and so for the truth's sake, because an evil report and slander should not rest upon ●t; and for the simple ones, and deluded ones, that are subject to catch at his histories and reports. So for the truth's sake have I given forth this, not to be justified of man, nor to b● known outwardly, but to be known to the Lord God, and of him to be justified, and not to stir up strife or war, but that truth might be set up, and all deceit confounded, and the simple ones directed, and their minds guided to God to hear his voice, and to wait upon him, that they might come into the life of the Scriptures, that they were in, that gave them forth, which thou hast declared that thou hast not, neither dost thou wait for it, so shows thyself to be an imposture, and keeps all in the pit, and from hearing the voice of the living God.  
And as for railing, such we deny, and all such as lay waste Scripture, and live not the life of it, and Christ, and saith, and hope, but in their places we own all as it was given forth; and here be thou Samuel Eton, and John Pomroy, and Paul Glissen, and Joseph Kellet, to that in your consciences I speak, that it may witness against you, that you are witnesses against the truth of God, and ●hem that live in it, who hath published forth your lies and slanders, who are for the Lake. And thou Samuel Eton, who makes a colour of answering the Queries, thou hast made many Queries, and hath answered thy own, let the Reader of thy Book but take notice, and see thy deceit, and imposture, which thou so often accuses them, that thou calls Quakers with, which therein thou art comprehended thyself with the children of light, and I leave thee to be judged with them all, because thou hast published thy Book openly, let all the children of the light judge thee what spirit thou art guided by, who denies immediate inspiration.  
And in thy Answer to the seventeenth Query, thou slanders the Apostle, and saith it was a hyperb●lycal Speech, when the Apostle said, they knew all things, and needed no man to teach them, but as the anointing, and this thou sayest was an hyperbolycal expression, O vain man; where did the Apostle give ●orth any such expressions? thou wouldst make him a liar like ●hy self, who cannot own his words, therefore do we own the Apostle, who spoke plainly, and deny thee, with thy hyperbolycal expressions, who art in the wisdom of words, and slanders the Power of God, which makes the earth to tremble, in wh●ch power stood the Saint's faith, and wisdom, as the Apostle spoke to the Corinthians, in which Spirit and Power of the living God stands our saith and wisdom, and not in the wisdom of the world, which wisdom we see all comes to nothing, which wisdom thou lives in, and so with the world thou mayest be justified, for it loves its own, and in it thou mayest have many witnesses; but thou dost not know, as thou hast confessed, and with him no liar nor slanderer, nor with them who are Gods.  
Thou sayest, The Church of Christ, is the pillar and ground of truth, and doth witness the truth contained in the Scripture.  
But this is another's, and not thine; for thou canst not witness it to be the pillar and ground of truth, but art an enemy to it, and denies the immediate inspiration, and hearing the voice of the living God.  
And thou asserts that the Mystery of Godliness is great.  
Thou mayest assert it, for godliness is a mystery to thee, thou knowest it not, but he that spoke these words, God manifested in the flesh, justified in the spirit, witnessed these words as he spoke them, and to such as thee it is a mystery without any consequences, or ●ences, thou mayest very well assert it, for thou art without God i● the world.  
And as for El ction thou knows nothing of; For his secrets are with them that fear him: and thou denies ever hearing his voice, therefore how should th●u know his Secrets, and there let thy mo●th be stepped, for thou knows not what is elected, whic● art pleading for sin, and for the Devil, and denie● perfection and pu●i●y, so thou art without among the dogs, and the Whoremongers, and the Adulterers, and there we leave thee.  
And thou who sayest, thou never heardst God's voice, (nor dost not wait for it) nor never shalt in the state thou art in, though thou sayest, thou hast confuted the Quakers, but it is with that nature which is for utter confusion and destruction, and that which thou sayest thou hast confu●ed, shall confound thee, and thy generation, and all who are in the l●ght may see thy pride, and hypocrisy.  
And as thou sayest, Our speech bewrayeth us, but it is made manifest to all, who is in any measu e enlightened, that thy speech bewrayeth thee, what generation then, and art of which never heard the voice o● God, that thou knows not the Spirit of God, where it is mad● man fest, neither art thou guided by the light of thy conscience; but art warring for the Devil against the Lamb, and ●he Saints; but the Lamb shal● get the victory over such beasts, and false prophets as thou art: Praises be to our God, the living God, for evermore. And so grace and peace be multiplied among all those that love the Lord Jesus Christ.   

A Reply to a Book which is full of lies, and slanders, set forth by Higgison, a Priest in Westmoreland, which he writ against the Northern Quakers, as he calls them.  
FIrst, Thou gives an Epistle to the CHRISTIAN READER.  
Reply. O how darest thou mention Christians, who appears so openly to be an enemy to them! For when one Thomas Holme came to thee, to speak to thee in the Steeplehouse, he was cruelly beat, and his clothes rend and torn, and set in the stocks; and this was by thy Church, as thou calls it, and is this thy conferring with Christians?  
And thou sayest in thy Epistle, Thou wouldst not have the Government of this Nation to read thy Book, not as lying lines.  
And how hast thou proved thyself to be a liar in thy own Congregation? who saith, you do not persecute, and besides hundred of places more I might mention, where they have been, and are daily imprisoned, and stocked.  
And in thy seventh Page to thy Book, thou gives to the Reader a story of one Fox, as going to a Gentleman's house in Cumberland, with one or two more men, and one of the house came to them, and asked to know their business, and they asked if the Gentleman of the house was within, and called him by name.  
O Higgison, thou liar, and slanderer, I charge thee to mention that man's name, which him, which thou calls Fox, as thou sayest, went to in Cumberland; him that thou calls Fox had not been in Cumberland then; And here I charge thee ●n the presence of the living God to be a liar, who art a publish r of lies, who art impudent, and brazen, and hardened in thy deceit.  
And thou sayest, the Gentleman took them aside, and they told him they were sent to him from God.  
Reply. And as for the Gentleman's taking him that thou calls Fox aside, it is a lie, and a slander, there was never no such thing.  
And as for saying, that he heard a voice, that is ano her of thy lies, and slanders.  
And as he whom thou calls Fox, calling for a little water at the Gentleman's house.  
Thou liar, here I charge thee to be a liar again, he was never there. And as for him thou calls Fox, going to an Alehouse, and desiring the host to provide meat, O thou slanderer and liar, here I charge thee in the presence of the living God to be no Minister of Christ, but in iniquity. And let the Gentleman in Cumb●rland witness against thee.  
And le● th● Reader of thy Book, read with a single eye, and he will see it is come out of the generation of liars, a●d will be ashamed that ever such as thou should be mentioned to be a Min stir of Jesus Christ, who sued one of thy hearers for twopence. And Higgison, who art for destruction in the lake that burns, where the portion of all liars is, to that in thy conscience I speak, which shall be a witness against thee, and condemn thee.  
Here are more of thy lies and slanders that thou casts upon him whom thou calls Fox, And th' u P●iest Higgison saith, that he cr●pt into the Country, whom thou calls Fox.  
O thou liar, and slanderer, thy Book is nothing but lies, and slanders, and flatteries, let all the Country witness against thee to be a liar, who art the envious man, that art sowing thy seed, but thy seed is seen, and known.  
And, O thou Higgison, thou filthy liar, and slanderer of him whom thou calls Fox, in the eighteenth Page that thou gives to the Reader, as a filthy lying slander which shall turn upon thyself, the earth may open and swallow thee up quick.  
Thou sayest, that some Person of quality, brought this thy lying story to Kendal, which thou hast caused to be put in print, and told what disorder he had caused in the Country, and here thou envious man art sowing thy wicked seed, lies, and slanders, who art one of the Devils servants, but thou art discovered, and shalt proceed no further, as in thy Book thou hast declared thyself, to be more openly known than thou was before, though thou was known to the children of light before.  
And thou Higgison saith, He was in a certain house, together with many of his Disciples, thou slanderer who makes disturbance in the Country, and so this shall return upon thyself. And another lying story thou tells of the Devils discovering him to be of his Vessel and Agent, and which caused many of his followers to desert him, as he was speaking in a certain house, procured Foxes apprehension, and imprisonment in Nottingham Castle, till he ran away with his Keeper.  
O thou slanderer, and liar, who art of the Devil, and for the Lake, they in Nottingham Town, and Shire, will witness against thee, he that was with his Keeper, whom thou calls George Fox, was the Sheriff. He was kept at his house. And of saying he was taken at a house, and carried to prison to Nottingham. Castle; these are slanders and lies, and they in Nottingham will witness thee to be a Minister of the Devil, who ministers lies.  
Thou Priest Higgisson, O thou impudent, Him that thou calls George Fox, as saying, he run away with his Keeper from Nottingam Castle, they all in Nottingam Town, will witness again thee to be a liar, and slanderer: And him that thou calls George Fox, was hailed out of a Steeplehouse to prison, for speaking to a Priest of thy generation, who spoke lies as thou dost; And here thou Higgisson, I charge thee in the presence of the living God to be a liar, who art a vessel for Satan to dwell in.  
And thou liar and slanderer, who saith he was accused for sorcery, but sorcery is thy own, for he is of God, and in him is no gu●le, but upright, godly, and a just man, and innocent.  
And thou Higgisson, hast written forth many lies, and stories, and fables, and so shows thyself to be one of those that the Prophet prophesies of, who art given up to follow fables and lies, who hath uttered forth thy lying stories; but thou and a●l thy lies are for the lake that burns, and the fi e and the pit eternally, and the snare, whose mouth must be stopped, and thou shalt proceed no further, for the whole Country will  
His lies and slanders are these: First, That Benet should prison him for saying, That that Christ that died at Jerusalem was a togue. 2. That a woman a follower of him, went up and down to get some to kiss her. We Robert Withers of Kellet, and James Taylior of Neuton, both in the County of Lancaster, being moved of the Lord for the truth's sake to go to Derby, and the Country thereabouts, to search out the lies, and slanders, and reproaches, which Benet a Member of the House of Parliament, and Justice of Peace in Derby, cast upon the truth; and the innocent by which all the innocent suffer: we did not go, because we did not know the truth and falseness of these things before; for the truth that is made manifest amongst us doth testify against all these things, but that an evil report should not rest upon it, that they who be in simplicity, should not stumble; and when we came into the Town of Derby, and Country thereabouts, we did with much diligence search and inquire of his life and conversation, and doctrine: and then they cried out in the Town of Derby, and thereabouts, against Benet's filthy lies, and scandals; and said, than they must needs witness against him: the contrary; and that George Fox did always declare against that, and all other such filthy practices, and never such a word came out of his mouth, as to say, That that Christ that died at Jerusalem was a rogue; and they in Derby, and the Country thereabouts could tell the words which he imprisoned him for almost a whole year: which was no breach of any Law; so when he had put him in the House of Correction, put him in the Dangeon, and kept him in four prisons, almost a whole year; and then when he would not satisfy his will, and that no Law could take hold on him; then Benet struck him, and commanded the under-Goaler to put him out of the Town, half a mile, or a mile: and this many in Derby, and the Country thereabouts, w●ll witness: so we being willing that the thing should be known openly, as we declared it openly: We have got the Copy of the Mitimus of the Master of the House of Correction, whither he sent him; & a Copy of the Heads of the words which he spoke, when they examined him: and this we bear witness to in the presence of God.  


James Telor.  
Robert Widder.     

The Heads of the words that George spoke, when they examined him.  
1. THey asked why they came thither: We said, God momoved us; so saith Peter, And God doth not dwell in Temples made with men's hands, as saith Stephen. We said, Look at Christ in you, and not at men. We said, Christ is in us, and hath sanctified us; so saith the Apostle: To the Saints ye were unclean, but now are ye washed. They asked us, Had we no sin? I said, No: and in Christ was no sin. They said, Where is Christ? And we said, In us: and he hath taken away our sin; so saith John, We abiding in him, sinneth not. They asked us, How we knew that Christ did abide in us? And we said, By his Spirit, that he hath given us. They said, Was we Christ? And we said, We were nothing, Christ was all. And they said, If a man steal is it no sin? And we said, All unrighteousness is sin; and they stumbled at it: and many other words were spoken, but these are the Heads.   

A Copy of the MITTIMUS. To the Master of the House of of Correction in Derby, Greeting,  
We have sent you here the Bodies of George Fox, late of Munsfield, in the County of Nottingham, Cordwinder, and John Fretwel, late of Stainsby, in the County of Derby, Husbandman, brought before us this present day, and charged with the avowed uttering, and broaching of divers blasphemous opinions, contrary to a late Act of Parliament, which upon their examination before us, they have confessed: these are therefore to require you forthwith upon sight hereof to receive them, the said George Fox, and John Fretwel, into your custody, and them therein safely to keep during the space of six months, without bail, or mainprize; or until they shall find sufficient Sureties to be of good behaviour, or be there delivered by Order from ourselves hereof you are not to sail: given under our hands and seals this thirtieth Day of October, 1650.  


Jeremy Benet.  
Nathaniel Barton.    
FINIS.