A CONFERENCE Between The Pope, the Emperor, and the King of Spain. Holden in the Castle of St. Angelo in ROME, Upon the entertainment of some great persons after mentioned, touching the subverting of the Protestant Profession in England, and other parts of Christendom. And concerning the present distractions here in England between the King and Parliament. London, Printed for A. Coe, and T. A. july 14. 1642. A Conference holden at the Castle of St. Angelo in Rome, betwixt the Pope, Emperor, and the King of Spain. Pope. WElcome dear Sons unto our Court of Rome, Apostolic and holy blessings shield all the house of Austria from evil, and advance both your fortunes and your Crowns. Emperor. Thy feet most (holy Father) I do kiss, if I miss thy blessing, the Imperial Crown from Austria will be lost which heavens forbidden, for than we are undone; Bohemia Rebels do join with Sweden, the Heretics from Danawe to the Rhyne; they combine both heads, arms and forces against Rome and Austria to help the Palatine that cursed Calvinist with his partakers, those damned Schismatics and Heretics, who upon our ruins seek to build their fortune, which makes me thus to move you Holiness, and crave your help now in this extremity, for if we fall, the worse it will be for you. Pope The keys of Peter, and the sword of Paul shall shut, open, and cut in pieces the gates of Heaven, Nations, Laws, and Rights, and turn the darkest nights into clear days; and those lands which have denied our dignities, I'll make a Keldoma and field of blood: I'll thunder out my Bulls against Heretics, and make their land a place of dead men's sculls, I will implore the Saints, and Hell, and Purgatory, both shall roar, ere any Calvin or of Luther's Sect with Roman bays shall insult on our territories. Emp. Your threats and curses are now despised by those vile Heretics, they hold your blessings of no more force than is the skipping of a fox's tail; in brief, they are all so disobedient, that whether you bless or curse they do not care, they fear not what your Holiness can say, there is nothing that can drive them from their Heresy, help by your counsel therefore holy Father, and show us means to quiet all this stir. Pope. Thou mayst by reasons and Ambassages, by questions, answers, and the like, win time a while, but these be out of date now, now swords, not words,, do arbitrate Kingdoms, and we have still used delays, and shifts so oft, that all our enemies perceive our craftiness; send unto thy neighbours, friends & subjects, that thou mayst thyself defend from surprise my Legates and my Nuntios, I will hast to hatch more forces amongst the Catholics, Mentz, Cullen, Triers, Catholic B. , thou hast with others in Germany, from Flaunders, Brabant and the Popish King, thy true friends will quickly bring thee secure; and though myself, with Florence may not send our arms so soon, we will lend our money: the Cantons and the Swissers shall be hired, who do hold themselves engaged to our See, I'll send to Urbino and to Martina, to Ferar, and to Genoa, to Savoy, and to Venice, and to Piemount, to France our eldest son, and to Saint Dennis, I'll fetch the Saints from heaven, the fiends from hell, but I'll quell those drunken German Traitors: Is not thy Spanish Cousin here with thee? Who do fear Europe, and the new found world, the Churches Atlas, and the Empire's prop? We hope to stop by strength, wit or gold those proud attempts and daring of the Dutch, and break their forces cost it never so dear. King of Spain. If Caesar, and your Holiness have ended, observe the answer of the Spanish son, no German Prelates, nor Bavaria can do it, nor King of Pole, yourself, nor any man, nor Florence Duke, nor Brabant joined with Flaunders, nor Cantons, Swissers, nor the greatest Catholic if all were joined in one, yet could they not with all their force that can be got by them bring timely succour against the combination those Almains, Graves, have in every land, expect no help from Venetia or Savoy, who deadly hate and fear the house of Austria, I look for no help from my brother France, for if he see us down he'll sing and joy: and Caesar if thou look'st at home for aid, thy state is tottering, and thy strength perisheth. Thy Austrian subjects are infected also with Luther's heresy, and have forsaken the Papal dignity, and may combine with their fellow Lutherans, and if thou dost send to Thracia for succour, the faithless Turk (thou knowest) will not from Asia, Spain, thou must help, or what will Caesar do, and how can Rome help Spain, and Caesar also having so many places to supply which stands in need? wherefore doubtless, if I shall cause India Armies to be recalled from thence, and our Italian forces march from us, leave Milan, Naples, and our silver fountains unguarded, naked, and march over the hills through grisons Country, leave the strength of Spain, or venture our Armado once more to narrow seas, and so lose more at once then we have got in threescore years before, than thou at Vienna, I at Arragon may shave our heads & turn Monks, you count your friends but do not count your foes, whose strength, whose numbers you cannot quell, the Northern tract of Europe from Britain, tending to last as fare as Transilvania, save Holland and some other of their own trifles (Oh me) in fourscore years how they are grown you see, three Kingdoms, England, Scotland, Ireland be, with Denmark, Norway, Sweden, six besides those two which they have won being eight in all, and our Kings are but three, the number of their Princes, Dukes and Earls, with their free Lords and States are a great number, besides their many Palsgraves', and their Mootgraves, with all their Landgraves, and their Burgraves; and as their numbers, so their spirits are made great with hopes of their prodigious star which blazed over Germany the last December, portending change of State, and their expositions and their combinations of situations, times and Sceptres; and of Rome, of Babel, and of hills and dales, of beasts of Dragons, and such fearful things wherewith they cheer themselves, and triumph as though they would give us all the overthrow: the eleventh and twelfth of Esdras they apply against the Imperial Monarchy, and that the Lion coming from the wood is understood of the King of Sweden, and that the Lion should the Eagle foil, and in triumphant sort divide the spoil. The Rebels thus interpreteth this, whereby the Catholics are vexed greatly; therefore they say that as the Eagles they do spread themselves o'er many Catholic Kings, even so the Lion in the Arms of Sweed, will sure protect those Heretics from fear, and Sued (they say) turned Anagram, is the Christian Macchabeus; they further say Gustavus is his name. The fame of this man's fortune doth so much them cherish, that their good success makes me now to stand in fear to be put down, wherefore I pray you see now if any means be left to set me free. Pope. An uncouth shivering makes my blood to i'll, and strange amazement doth fill my sinews; I wonder much that they are so skilful against us, thus to apply this Prophecy: I also do admire how they would frame such Anagrams on Swede; but though those hopes do cheer their froward minds, yet let our Emperor's thoughts contemn all fear, for it is not Fortune turning of her wheel can make our noble resolutions stagger: I wonder much those blind Heretics cannot remember in their hardened mind, how I am on Saint Peter's Chair so placed that they can neither waste nor ruinated the place which is within my grave protection, though (for a time) they put them to perplexity, for I will so trouble them with my band of Jesuits, they shall not withstand them; doubt not but I will find a Stratagem to save Rome's Caesars, and the Diadem of Spain. King of Sp. But holy Father I am certified that they deride your Council and Policy, and how of you they make an Anagram, can frame the best and betterest of their wits: as thus, Supremus Pontifex Romanus. ANAGRAMMA. O non sum supra Petram fixus. Most sacred Pastor of the flock of Christ. They say thou art not fixed on the Rock, but I suspect that they are all inclined, that they do believe in mind what they say, alas for Rome, alas for Ferdinando, alas for Philip, must I be forced to withstand my own, the Emperors, and the Church's enemies, and so lose both myself, the Church, and Empire all at once! Pope. And they find out such strange prodigies to fill the Cathliques with fear and doubt; I'll make them know that I am fixed firm upon Saint Peter, and shall never be cast down, my benediction, or my malediction can raise a State, or ruin a Nation: The Heretics on Saint Peter's do build their faith, and I am upheld as from his person, and from him all power is given unto me, to bind and lose, to shut and open heaven: And whilst I keep the Keys none shall come in that have been in those mad rebellious wars. Emp. All you can say, and all you can devise, they value not, but despise it utterly: the Duke of Saxon is gone from our side, and joined with the King of Sweden, and why should we expect for more from him then Charles my Predecessor did before, who gave them all and more than I can tell, yet shortly after in that great contention twixt him and Luther's Rebels, he forsook his benefactors and turned against them; and by these Civil Wars what is our gain, more than millions of our people have been slain, Dampiere, Bucqu●y, and valiant men, whose like we have no hope again to enjoy, our subjects with great taxes are compelled, our Provinces laid waste, our Cities sacked, our fruitful fields untild, and unmanured, past hope to be recured, maids, wives, and widows, deflowered, ravished, our Lands with spoil and ruin all destroyed, fire, sword, and famine, hath these twelve years reigned o'er mine Empire in every place, our friends fall off, our treasure is racked, and all we have well near consumed and wasted, and all the mischiefs that can fall, we and our people by war have endured, whilst many thousands that were wont to give, do beg or starve or live miserably; and late that most unlucky overthrow, my trusty Tilleys loss and deadly stroke, Prague and Bohemia Kingdoms, all is lost, our Towns of Frankford, and of Enough won, Hall, Hervested, and Hurst, with mighty Mentz, out chief Elector Bishop, fled away, my General W●lstan and Don Balthasar fled to Polonia from the Sword's fury; This makes our foes to swell with victory, and all is worse than tongue or pen can tell. King of Sparke No Prince can compare with my losses, for I have had more than a double share; great damage have I had in Asia, in Brasill, and in Farnambuck, the furious Rebels have caused me to feel with places of importance, their civil hatred to our State and Realm, by foiling, spoiling, and ruinating them, my India is surprised and taken by them, wherein subsisted all the hope of Spain; besides at Belgia, I have had misfortune, my Town of Weazell's taken in a trap, the Buss, a place of great importance lost, long time defended, with exceeding charge, and late that unrecoverable blow in Zealand, where our forces all were broke, Sloopes, Puicks and Lighters, 78. perished, 6000. men, ta'en prisoners, many wounded, 4000 hand Granades, and of Brass 430. pieces was taken, eleven harrells of good money likewise taken, and many hundreds of our soldiers slain, with store of Ammunition, shot, and powder, all lost in that unlucky expedition; all this past the last September, for which our foes rejoice, our friends are grieved, whilst only Dunkirk are rude Rennegadoes, have made bravadoes against mine enemies, they only have done things of special moment, taken from Merchants and small fisher boats, and now and then a Collier, or a Catch of Oysters, seldom meeting with their equals, for which rare acts their fame abroad is spread, as though they had subdued and won the world, when every wise man knows their Towns and Ships to be but dens of Thiefs. Have all my Ancestors to six descents, by conquest, wedlock, and such like other Ligaments, tied fast Earldoms, Dakedomes' Crown and Empire, hoping for Western Monarchy at last, and is the period of our greatness, hope, and our declining now begin to haste? Nassaw, Nassaw, you hateful Father and Sons, cursed be your name and house, you first did gather the fearful Rebels into warlike bonds, which now do State it in the Netherlands; there where you writ nil ultra once more, and set stern pillars bars to Spain. Emp. Thus holy Father have you briefly heard the cause of all our anger and our grief, by reason of those dangers now related, which so perplexed our minds and hearts, by these so many losses, and we fear ere long will befall us; wherefore if Rome have any sercret wisdom laid up in store for evil times, or evil did make wicked Heretics feel the power of the Church; then Father now is the time and hour: Remember how Frederick heretofore frighted thy Predecessors, this may hazard thy fortune more, utterly suppress thyself, the Roman Church, and us, except by some prime stratagem fetched from beneath, thou mayest thyself and friends from danger keep, for if these Heretics be once our masters, then farewell Pope and Papal dignity. Pope. And are our friends so few and false? and be our foes so many and so lusty? Once Innocent of Rome in former ages, hath used three Kings for Lackeys, and dare they now make wars against Caesar without our leave? Then our furies wake, help me to store of Pistols, poisoned knives, to fire, and powder, and Manacles, bid Raviliack, and Clement high them hither, let Guido Faux, and Garuet, all come, all those that do excel in policy, are Sons of Iskariet, and Achitephel. FINIS.