CHRIST EXALTED, AND Alone worthy to open the Seals of the Book. And the Scriptures owned in their place. A True TESTIMONY of him, as is manifest, in Answer to a Book, Entitled, The Quakers Apostasy, from the perfect Rule of Scriptures. Given forth by John Timson, of Great Bowden in Leicestershire. And the Deceits and Blasphemies he charges upon the Quakers, is turned upon his own head, and he found guilty of what he reproaches them with, in what is written for the simples sake, and truth to clear from false accusations and lies cast upon it. And the Ten Queries he saith he vindicateth, and would Print but four of them, they are all published, with the Answers that he charges to be confused, dark and deceitful, that the Answers may witness for themselves against what is charged upon them. He that hath an understanding in the light, read and judge. WILLIAM DEWSBERRY. Search the Scriptures, for in them ye think ye have eternal life, and they are they which testify of me. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life. John 5. 39, 40. Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life, no man cometh unto the father, but by me, John 14. 6. London, Printed for Giles Calvert, at the west end of Paul's. 1656. Christ Exalted, AND Alone worthy to open the Seals of the Book, And the Scriptures owned in their place, etc. John Timson. THE Book thou hath Printed, is seen with the light that returned an Answer to thy first Queries; and for the truth's sake, and it to clear, from the lies, slanders, and aspersions cast upon it, in the light here is writ, to witness against the falsehood and untruth, which thou hast charged us withal, that answers thy Queries, which to that of God in all consciences, who it minds, will give them to discern, that what thou hast charged against the people, who in scorn are called Quakers, is false, and on thee is returned, as the lines following make manifest, wherein is writ what thou hast charged them withal, and to clear the truth, an answer thereunto is returned. In thy Preface as thou calls it, which thou presents to the Reader, thou hast not much of it expressed, before thou gins falsely to accuse us, charging us with drawing people aside, and entangling them with dark Diabolical snares, etc. And thou saith, The answers thou received to thy ten Queries, were so obscure, deceitful, and confused, that it constrained thee to Reply. To which thou saith, an Answer thou hast received, etc. and hath now undertaken to give the sense of what thou understands of what is writ to thee, and hath given it forth publicly to the world, that we have accused thee of slanders, in things that are too gross in plainness of speech, to publish to the world, etc. Reply: Dark diabolical snares we deny, the word of the Lord God we witness which was in the beginning, which word is life and the life is the light of men. John. 1. 1. 4. which word we preach to turn the minds of people from darkness to light; from the power of Satan to the living God, Acts. 26. 18. in the light of his living word, which discovers the thoughts and intents of the heart: Heb. 4. 12. to wait in his light, on him for power, to lead out of all the ways of darkness, into union with the father of life, in Christ the light, who in him walk, there is no occasion of stumbling; Jo. 2. 10▪ but who deny to be guided by his spirit is none of his; Ro. 8 ver. 9 but in darkness walk and stumble at noon day, and it is truth we declare, as it is recorded in the Scripture of truth, he that can receive it, let him, and for thy charging the answer to be obscure, deceitful, and confused, seeing the deceit in thee, hath published that they are deceitful, and could not publish them to make manifest what the deceit is and some of them which thou hast published thou hath both added and diminished, for the truth's sake, the queries with their answers is published, that the answer may witness for itself against the falsehood thou hast charged on it, he that hath an eye to see let him see; And for thy giving thy sense of what thou understands of our writing and saith we accuse thee of slandering etc. Reply Thy sense thou gives of our words with thy dark understanding we deny, and slandering we deny, it is thy own practice, proved to thy face, by thy own words, as followeth. Second false accusation. 2. Thou says, that we judge our novices, and all others besides ourselves uncapable to receive some of our principles, as yet, and therefore we study to darken the sense, by subtle glozing, equivocating expressions, and shuffles. Reply, Thy false accusation we deny, we do not judge Novices besides ourselves uncapable to receive our principles, we know Christ the true light hath lighted every one that comes into the world, and the Gospel we preach, is to turn the minds of people, from darkness to light, and who it minds it will give them an understanding the principle of pure religion to know, Christ the light in whom we stand clear of thy slanders, in his light we plainly speak as moved of him, and do not study to darken the sense of our words, as thou dost falsely accuse us, the Lord is Judge between thee and us. 3. The third accusation charging us with damnable heresies, etc. and further thou sayest, what thou hast charged us withal is upon such rational grounds, that thou art sure we are convinced in the secret of our hearts and Consciences that thou lies not; In the presence of God I charge thee to be a liar, in the slanders and lies before written, what followeth will make thee more manifest; thou sayest we frequently judge men by the light which gave forth the Scripture, even while we are opposing the authority of Scriptures, as they are the only rule of knowing God, and Jesus Christ whom he hath sent, etc. Reply. Thy charge is false, in saying we oppose the authority of Scriptures which Christ the light who gave forth the Scripture, who spoke as one having authority and not as the Scribes, Mat. 7. 29. and the Scripture is a true testimony of him who is the way to the father, none knows the father but the son and he to whom the son reveals him, Mat. 11. 27. so thou in the light art seen to be guilty of what thou chargest us withal, in denying Christ the light, within, to be the authority of Scriptures, and the perfect rule of faith and obedience, therefore let flesh be silent, and the lying mouth be stopped, for Christ we own, which was before the Scriptures, and is the authority of them, for when he spoke them forth he spoke as one having authority and according as Christ speaketh of the Scriptures, we them own in their place; a true testimony of him, Jo. 5. 39, 40. who is the way the truth and the life, and no man cometh to the father but by him. Jo. 14. 6. So none comes to the knowledge of the father by reading the Scriptures though they think to find life there, they shall not, if they come not to Christ, of whom they testify, and in whom the life is, who saith search the Scriptures for in them ye think to have eternal life, and they are they which testify of me, and he reproves all who will not come to him that they may have life. So what thou charges us withal, thou art the man that denys the authority of Scriptures, and found guilty of slandering the Children of light, as what is written makes manifest and what as followeth will make thee more manifest to all that have eyes to see the many falshhoods and lies thou hast begun the book withal, in that thou calls the preface to the reader, so out of thy own mouth thou art condemned. 4. The fourth false accusation, thou sayest we are so drunk with delusion and impudence, that we will rather charge the Scripture with deceit then question our own deceitful hearts. Reply. In the presence of God we witness against thee, we own the Scripture to be the Scripture of truth and do not charge the Scripture with deceit, but with the light of Christ that gave forth the Scriptures, and discovereth the deceit of the heart, with which light we judge the deceit of the heart, and witness against thee in the light, which makes known to us the Scripture in the truth as it is in Jesus Christ the light God is our witness. 5. The fifth false accusation, thou sayest we rite and speak the Language of Scripture as if we were for it, and is not, which is rank hypocrisy and done of purpose to deceive. Reply. We in the light speak as moved of the Lord 2 Pet. 1. 21. whose Language is according to Scripture, and doing any thing in hypocrisy we deny, as to deceive any the Lord is our witness, who will rebuke the lying spirit, and stop thy lying mouth. 6. The sixth false accusation, thou sayest we boast, that we are as perfect as Christ that died at Jerusalem. Reply. Thy charge is false, boasting we deny, or any perfection that is of self, our righteousness without Christ is as a filthy rag; and a menstruous cloth, Christ our righteousness, who is the true light, that lighteth every one that comes into the world, Jo. 1. 9 we witness him the same Christ, as was in that body that suffered at Jerusalem; and every one of the Children of light in the measure of growth in him, the same mind is in them, that was in Christ Jesus, Phil. 2. 5. who is the brightness of the father's glory, Heb. 1. 3. 7. The seventh false accusation, thou sayest we say, that he that trusts in Christ that died at Jerusalem, for Salvation, shall be deceived. Reply. This charge is false as the other, in the presence of God we witness against thee, no other Christ we bear testimony of to be the salvation of lost man and woman, but that Christ according to Scripture testimony, who was born of the virgin and bore a good confession before Pilate, and suffered at Jerusalem, and risen again the third day, and ascended into Heaven, and sitteth at the right hand of God, and this Christ we witness the true light, who lighteth every one that comes into the world, and saith I stand at the door and knock, who opens, I will come into him and sup with him, and he with me, Rev. 3. 20. and we witness him faithful: and as many as receives him, to them he gives power, to become the Sons of God, and this is the condemnation of all, because they believe not in him. Jo. 1. 12. 8. The eight false accusation, thou sayest we reproach Christ's institutions and holy ordinances, with the odium of men's tradiditions, outward observations inconsistent with God's Kingdom, and compares them to Nebuchadnezars great Idol, etc. Reply. Thy Charge is false, Christ's institutions, and holy ordinances, we own in the dispensation of time they were to be continued, and what is now in this dispensation of time known in the administration of his spirit, we own, but who upholds any Idolatry, in observing any thing by tradition, and not guided by the Spirit of Christ, and so walk contrary to the perfect Law of God in the Conscience; and though their words be never so glorious in outward appearance, in crying the Ordinances of Christ, while they deny to be guided by Christ, they are no Ordinances of Christ, but an Image, set up in the proud exalted nature, which Nebuchad nezzar set up his Image in which with the power of God shall be thrown down and thou with the rest of the Idol worshippers shall be broken to pieces and lies shall not save thee, for the Lord will exalt his name and his Children that observe his holy ordinances shall reign in his his spiritual power, that preserves them therein to observe the movings of his spirit, which doth lead to worship the father, in spirit and truth, according to testimony of Scripture, Joh. 4. 23, 24. And when thou John Timson hast presented thy false accusations and lies to the Reader, in the preface of thy Book, that they might receive the falsehoods, and lies that are written therein, and these lies and slanders, which are here laid before thee, and witnessed against, in the answer there to returned will sufficiently prove to thy face, and be manifest to that of God in every one's Conscience, that thou hast spoken unadvisedly with thy lips, when thou sayest thou lies not, and all these lies found in thy mouth, given forth publicly for all to read and thou declares to the Reader that the Lord knows, what diligence and tenderness of bowels, thou hast had to prepare it for them, etc. Reply. Blush for shame O vain man to appeal to the Lords knowledge of thy diligence and tenderness of bowels, to prepare so many lies and falsehoods for people to read thou shalt certainly know that the Lord takes notice of thee, and he will lay thee open, and make thee manifest, and lies shall not cover thee, nor be thy refuge; Isa. 28. 17. when our God will clear his truth, and thy tongue, and all others, that rise up against him, shall fall in judgement, the day shall declare it. Further thou goes on saying, as for those persons that have answered me who have charged me with bringing forth many lies and slanders, and have made a noise thereof, as if I were some carnal lying wretch, that matters not what I writ. Reply. To that of God in every one's conscience I appeal, that lies proceed from a Carnal wretched heart, and the Lord is making thee manifest, who would make lies thy refuge; which with the light thou art seen, and thy lies turned upon thee, that in the light thou mayst be read what thou art, and in the light our Books are known, and no such thing is in our Books as thou falsely charges us with, and would make people believe is written therein, in giving the sense of our words in thy dark mind, and for the Simples sake, an answer is returned, to clear the truth of God in what he hath given out by his spirit, both in word and writing, and whether thou wilt receive it yea, or nay, thou shalt know and all others, that Christ is the authority of the Scripture, and when he spoke them forth, he spoke as one having authority and not as a Scribe, & who in his light walk, cannot be persuaded to turn from him, by any lies and reproaches thou can cast upon them, who sayest we are wholly turned from the truth, which against thee witness it is not so, let God be judge, and in his day make manifest what we are in whose will we rest, as moved of him to witness against the falsehoods, thou hast further charged upon us in what followeth. Thou hast not done justly nor honestly in that thou hast not Printed the questions as given forth by thee, and answers as returned by us, and in an answer to what is of thee required, to prove the charge thou charges us withal, in thy reply to the answer to the first Question, and the false accusations, lies and slanders is not proved in all thou hast writ. The one baptism we own Eph. 4. 5. and the watch in the Church we own, in the spirit of life, which in order doth keep, in obedience to the pure God, who is the God of order, and not of confusion, but keeps his Children in himself purely to live, according to what is pro●est. Further thou goes on and queries, what proof would we have, is it not our own profane language, both in papers and conference, it is no ne●es to hear most of their way, dispute against water Baptism, the Lords Supper, a settled fixed Ministry over particular Churches, and queries, further, what Quakers administer water baptism, the Lords Supper▪ and constantly watches over a particular flock, or else for shame thou sayest we must own the charge, and confess our sin, in telling the world these are thy lying slanders. Reply. Profane Language we deny, and shadows and figures we witness done away, the substance being come, water baptism was in its time a figure of the substance, as John witnesses, to whom that dispensation was committed, Mat. 3. 11. I indeed baptise with water unto Repentance, but he that comes after me is mightier than I, whose sh●●es I am not worthy to bear, he shall baptise you with the Holy ghost▪ and with fire. And John's baptism we deny to be in force, he did decrease and Christ must increase whose baptism we own, according as is recorded in the Scripture of truth, and since he ascended, there is no Scripture doth witness his sending any to baptise with water, Paul who was sent after he ascended, what he did in the liberty given him, his liberty he knew, when he circumscised Timothy, and baptised Crispus, and Gaius, and the household of St●phanus▪ besides I know not th●t I baptised any other saith Paul, for Christ sent me not to baptise but to preach the Gospel, not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be of none effect, 1 Cor. 1. 16, 17. And John who bare record, of the word of the word of God, and testimony of Jesus Christ, Rev. 14. 6. saith I saw an Angel in the midst of Heaven, having the everlasting Gospel to preach to them that dwell in the earth, and to every Nation, and Kindred, tongue and People, John did not say, he did fly through the midst of heaven preaching the everlasting Gospel, and baptising with water, we know John faithful in his testimony of Jesus Christ, who is now revealed, and the Angel is come, and the Gospel preached and the shadows done away. And Bread and Wine were the Supper of the Lord, in the dispensation of time, a figure of his death, which were fulfilled, when he had suffered and risen again, and now he is known to stand at the door and knock, if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in and Sup with him, and he with me, saith Christ, Rev. 3. 20. And we being many are one bread, and one body, etc. 1 Cor. 10. 17. and knows the wine renewed in our father's Kingdom, Christ the substance we now witness, shadows and figures done away, he that can receive it let him. And the Churches set up by the will of man, we deny, and the fixed ministry set up over them by the will of man, that watch for the fleece, bear rule by their means, and seeks their gain from their quarter, these we deny; Jer. 5. 31. Isa. 56. 11. And those in scorn called Quakers, doth watch over the flock of God, every one as the Lord them calls, and not for filthy lucre, as the Priests that bear rule by their means do, neither by constraint, but of a ready mind 1 Pet. 5. 2. in obedience to the spirit of the Lord, as he them moves, and thy slanders thou hast not yet proved, our conscience doth witness it, that what thou hast accused us with is a lie, and not the truth. And thou further says that Will. Deusberry in a lying paper, as thou calls it, which is entitled A true prophecy of the mighty day of the Lord already risen in the North of England, etc. in which paper he makes it his work, to slander the Ordinances of Gospel worship, under the notion of outward observations, which Christ's Kingdom comes not in, Luke 17. 20. and thus he accounts of all the ordinances and institutions, prescribed by Christ himself, in the Apostolical Churches, and accounts all the strict observing of outward forms of worship, is but imitating the Saints practices, in their Babilonish and heathenish wisdom, all these outward forms, is the outward Court without the temple, Pa. 1. 2. Reply. The lie will be found in thy own mouth, in calling that a lying paper, a true prophecy it is of the mighty day of the Lord, and for thy saying, William Deusberry makes it his work etc. as before written thy charge is false, and the truth is witnessed against vain man, who in his dark mind seeks the Kingdom of God in observations where it comes not Luke 17. 20. neither shall men say lo here or lo there, he called by name as before written doth witness they are not the Ordinances of Christ, according as is declared of them, they will be found and made manifest to the shame and confusion of their face, who in their own wisdom imitates the Saints practices in form, which they did practice in life and power in the dispensation of time they served their generation, in the manifestation of the spirit, according to the will of God. And whereas thou sayest in the 4 Pa. it is more clear, that he profanely compares the holy ordinances and institutions of the Lord to that great Image set up by Nebuchadnezars proud nature, spoken of by Daniel, and that that Image was but a type and figure of this which now shines gloriously in forms and observations. And thou sayest, that in his speaking to the Anabaptists and Independents, he tells them they have set up a finer Image in the Gospel's ordinances (as they call them) and what other ordinances (thou sayest) doth these or you set up, but what was practised in the Apostolical Churches, thus you may see how this Impostor, doth reproach the holy things of God. Reply. Blush for shame who sayest William Dewsberry compares the holy ordinances and institutions of our Lord to that great Image, etc. Holy Ordinances, and Institutions of the Lord is not there expressed by him, where thou sayest he them so compares; he witnesses against the Image you have set up in your minds, of the truth as you conceive where you are in confusion that doth you divide into forms and observations as before written to look for the Kingdom of God to come, and though you call them the Ordinances of Christ you denying Christ the light you to guide in the daily cross, you are in the same nature, wherein Nebuchadnazzar cast the Lords servants into the fiery furnace, because they witnessed against his Image so do you who walk in your imaginations and deny Christ the light, cause the servants of the Lord that walks in the life, and cannot bow to your Image but witness against it, to be haled out of your meeting places, beaten, stoned, whipped, stocked, imprisoned, which are the fruits of Nebuchadnezars nature as is manifest this day amongst those, against whom he witnesseth and who is the Impostor and reproaches the holy things of God, the fruit makes manifest, he that hath an eye to see let him see. And further thou sayest that he in the height of his insolent rashness and madness, saith thus the word of the Lord came unto me saying, I will gather my people out of all forms and observations, and out of all Kindred's, Tongues and Nations, and I will power out my spirit upon them. And this thou sayest he writes in a different Character, as if it were all Scripture, by this you may see it proved what I have accused them with, in denying the Ordinances, and Administrations of the Gospel Churches true, and yet this impudent liar tells me it's a lying slander they would render me a liar, for telling them the truth, but it seems they can rather, and with more ease deny the accusation then prove themselves Saints, and stand to it, thus when they are pinched they will say and un say, and any thing to evade. Rashness and madness is thy own, in speaking evil of that thou knowest not, the day will declare, the Lord will gather his people together according as is declared, Rev. 5. 9 And the lie and false accusation will still rest on thee, for charging W. D. as before written, and the impudent liar he will not be found, when the Lord will separate between the precious and the vile then shall it be known, who walk in outward forms and deny Christ the light and those that live in the light, life and power of Christ, them to lead in the daily cross, which keeps them in a pure life, and holy conversation, and thy false accusations doth not us pinch, neither do we any thing to evade, but witness the truth, against thy false accusations, and in patience do finish our testimony in sufferings, and all with us that in the light walk, are in the ordinances of the Gospel Church and witness the everlasting Gospel where all types shadows and figures are done away, which thou so much cries up and the Lord will throw thee and all down and a day of tribulation shall come upon thee, and thou shalt not escape except thou repent. And whereas thou reviles us for saying that the spirit is the only rule of faith and life, Joh. 16. 13. which thou sayest that promise was made directly to the twelve. Reply. Who art thou that limits the holy one, the promise of his spirit is to all who wait on him in the manifestation of his spirit, according to the Testimony of Scripture, 1 Cor. 12. 7, 8, 9 the manifestation of his Spirit is given to every one to profit withal, for to one is given by the spirit the word of wisdom to another the word of knowledge by the same spirit, to another faith by the same spirit, to another the gifts of healing, by the same spirit, etc. And for thy unsavoury words which in reproach calls us proud worms that vilify and diminish from the Scripture, etc. Reply. Pride is thy own, we do not vilify nor diminish the Scriptures, we witness them a true testimony of Christ the life, and who in his light walk knows the truth of the Scriptures as it is in Jesus, Eph. 4. 20, 21. And whereas thou sayest in confession to what was declared to thee that Abel, Enoch, and Noah had saith before the Scriptures was written, to which thou quotes Heb. 1. 1. God who at sundry times, and in divers manners spoke in times p hast unto the fathers by the Prophets, hath in these last days spoken to us by his son, and thou sayest before there was any thing commit to writing the Lord did more visibly reveal his will by voice, vision, Angels, etc. But since he hath committed his whole will unto writing by the Prophets and Apostles, these former manners are ceased, and thou sayest to look for the same discoveries, still by voice, vision or inspiration, is madness we run into. Reply. Thou vain man, who dare to say the Lord hath ceased making himself known to his people, by voice vision or inspiration, holy men of God did speak, and doth speak, as inspired by the spirit of God, and moved by the Holy Ghost, 2 Pet. 1. 21. An● the Lord hath promised in the latter days I will power out my spirit upon all flesh, Joel. 2. 28, 29. Acts 2. 17, 18. Jer. 31. 33, 34. Heb. 8. 9, 10, 11. Isa. 54. 13. All the Children of the Lord, who are led by his spirit, doth witness these Scriptures fulfilled and knoweth the Lord is fatithfull according to his promise, who will recompense into thy bosom thy just reward, for speaking evil of his truth, and whiles thou denys the manifestation of his spirit, which the Lord manifests to his people as is recorded in the Scripture of truth, thy pride and confusion thou hast made manifest, and neither knows Moses ministry nor the Apostles, which thou in a buisy mind speaks of, in thy dark understanding, which leads thee to fill thy Book with false accusations, as in thy 10th Pa; where thou sayest we do not make any clear difference, between the outward declaration and the word of faith. Reply. For the Simples sake as we have declared the truth, we do declare it, which is witnessed with all the Children of light, the word of faith is in the heart and in the mouth, and who are guided by it their hearts are kept pure, faith purifyes the heart Act. 15. 9 whether they have the outward declaration yea, or nay, and they that have the outward declaration, and though they read it, if they mind not the word which is life and light, which gave forth the Scripture, they do not live according to the Scripture, for they are without faith, who are not guided by the word, faith comes not by reading, the outward declaration, faith is the gift of God, Eph. 2. 8 given to his Children, who diligently hearken to his word, which is life, and the life is the light of men. And for thy chargeing us with contradictions, confused nonsense, bitter censures and shuffles, and how notorious false it is wherein we say, that not any doth know the Scriptures by the outward declaration. Reply. To the light of Christ in all Consciences we appeal, let the righteous judge, a natural man knows not the things that are of God (though he read the outward declaration) for they are spiritually discerned, 1 Cor. 2. 14. and none is found worthy to open the seals of the Book, but the Lion of the Tribe of Juda, etc. Rev. 5. 3. 5. and then thou denys Gods speaking to his people, by voice vision or inspiration, and sayest they run into madness that expect any such thing, here thou art found in the Contradictions confused nonsense, bitter censures and shuffles, and notorious falsehoods, which thou hast falsely charged us withal, and it's turned upon thy own head, and proved out of thy own mouth, that while thou art making a show in words to maintain the Scripture authority, thou denies both the dispensation of the spirit of God in Christ, the light, and the Scriptures which bear testimony of him, as is manifest in the reply to what thou hast writ in the 6. and 8. Pa. And whereas thou in the 11 Pa. calls us deceivers and saith to those thou calls thy friends, we have them abused by the deceit and cheats of our own hearts, etc. Reply. Deceit and cheats thou art proved to be in, and what thou endeavours to do in the deceit of thy heart against the truth, thou wilt see thy hope fail thee, and not a blessing but a curse upon thy endeavours; which to thy face is proved, in what is before written to be contrary to the dispensation of the spirit, and Scripture, for which the terror of the Lord shall take hold on thee, for thy uttering words without knowledge, and speaking evil of the things thou knowest not, as in the 12. Pa. And whereas thou appeals to them thou calls thy friends how their hearts have been heated, and warmed by the power of the word and Sacraments etc. Which is now in contempt and reproach, by those that seduce you: Which thou charges upon us, and sayest thou hast clearly discovered our slanders, shifts, and shuffles, and our reproaching the Ordinances, and Ins●tutions of our Lord as Heathenish by compareing them to that great Image of that heathen King, Dan. 3. 3. and how we deny the Scripture to be a perfect rule of knowing God believing in him, and living unto him, and reproach thee to be a lying slander for chargeing us with that which is an apparent truth, as thou sayest thou hast proved by our lying papers, and that we have reproached they falsely, and the lies are returned upon our own heads, whilst thou sayest we witness ourselves perfect and without sin, and have entered the new Jerusalem into which none shall enter that makes a lie, etc. Reply. Them thou calls thy friends, who are in the light, with all the Children of light, do witness, that their hearts were never warmed in Sacraments, no such words is found in Scripture, and thou that art pleading for the authority of Scripture, is with the light of Christ in all his Saints denied and thy Sacraments, which is not found in Scripture, and in the light thou art clearly seen the slanders shifts and shuffles is thy own, as is manifest in the answer to the same reproach and accusations, in the 2. and 3. Page of thy Book and what we witness is according to Scripture, which we own, and in many things thou hast writ, as before is manifest by thy own words, the Scripture thou denies, so on whose head the falsehood remains, to the Children of light is made manifest and the day will further declare it, wherein Christ our King shall be exalted over all, in whom our perfection and cleansing from sin is, and lead us into new Jerusalem, into which nothing enters that works abomination or makes a lie, but who enter therein are led by the spirit of Christ in whose mouth is found no guile, he that hath an ear to hear let him hear. And whereas thou sayest to some of them thou calls thy friends, some of you have heard W. Dewsberry say of himself, that he, was as perfect as that Christ hat died at Jerusalem, this is witnessed by one of credit and fidelity amongst yourselves. I forbear his name. In Dewesberry new birth he thus witnesseth of himself. Reply. Thy spirit in the light is seen, who hath published what thou hath received from a nameless Author, and thy acusation is false, which thou hast published to the world, there were never any heard W. Dewesberry say of himself that he was as perfect as that Christ that died at Jerusalem, and that thou calls his new birth will be a witness against thee, There is no such word expressed by him, as thou sayest this nameless Author hath related of him. In the presence of God He (called W. Dewesberry.) doth witness that self is imperfect, and self righteousness as a filthy rag and a menstruous cloth, etc. Isa. 64. 6. And he doth witness Christ Jesus the true light which lighteth everyone that comes into the world, Joh. 1. 9 which discovers the imperfection and filthiness of self, with all its righteousness, and his perfection is in Christ, the light, which he doth witness, the same Christ and no other, but he which suffered at Jerusalem, who is the brightness of his father's glory, etc. Heb. 1. 3. 13. 8. which he thou falsely accuses, as before written, which all the Children of light doth witness, the Righteousness of God in Christ the light, 2 Cor. 5. 21. which for the Simples sake the truth is witnessed forth in the presence of God, which the Lord will clear, from the lies and slanders cast upon it, and he shall be known what he is, whom you call a proud polluted worm, that dare exalt himself to a perfection equal with God, which are thy own words and what thou hast gathered up from other who falsely accuse as thou dost, which words were not spoken by him, thou calls a proud polluted worm, who can bear thy revilings, but for the truth's sake, that the Simple do not stumble, at the way of truth, doth witness against thy false accusations and revilings, which thou hast filled thy Book withal. As in the 14. and 15. Pa, Speaking to them thou calls friends whom thou sayest is seduced, and thou declares that those whom thou charges with seducing them doth teach them to cease from all religious duties of commanded worship, without scruple or check of Conscience, before they can enjoy God, or be taught immediately what to do, first put out the true light, and power of Conscience to do his office, by despising the means of enlightening, and convincing it to act in the soul, and then resolves to follow the immediate commands of Conscience, without questioning the Author of those Laws at all. Reply. Thy accusation is falls, we do not teach any to cease from all religious duties of commanded worship, neither put out the true light, we teach all to be obedient to the commands of God, who saith this is my beloved Son in whom I am wel-pleased, hear him, Mat. 17. 5. And we bear testimony of him that he is the true light that lighteth every one that comes into the world, Joh. 1. 9 and convinces the world of sin, Righteousness and Judgement, Joh. 16. 8. and he alone commands in the Conscience for God, and is the Author of the perfect Law, handed in the hand of a mediator, to whom we exhort all to be subject, and in whom all the Children of light walk, Col. 2. 6. And for thy expressing, a depth of deceit and delusion, which thou charges upon us, which is found in thyself who hath made lies thy refuge to slander the innocent which is further manifest in thy 16. Pa. Thou sayest we take no notice of Scripture authority, as if they were altogether out of date, which false accusation is witnessed against in what is returned in answer to the preface of thy Book. And in the 17. and 18. Pa. thou charges us with impudent foreheads to make a show of one thing, and intent another, purposely minded to deceive, and yet they tell us often that as they writ so they mean, and speak the truth in plainness, most horrible hypocrisy and deceit, which nothing but a lying and a knavish head, dare go about to excuse, etc. And all those unsavoury words as before written, wherein thou sayest we have discovered to purpose the deceit of our answer, in saying the revelations of Christ are according to Scripture, and where the new Covenant is witnessed, the law is written in the heart, and the witness and testimony of Jesus within bearing witness with our spirits, that we are the Sons of God. Reply. Doing any thing of purpose to deceive, through hypocrisy or knavish heads, we deny, and in the presence of God we speak the truth in plainness, and do witness there is no deceit in saying the revelations of Christ are according to Scripture and all in the new Covenant do know, the law of God written in their hearts, and the witness or testimony of Jesus, within, 1 Jo. 5. 10. bearing witness with their spirits that they are the Children of God. Ro. 8. 16. and this declared is neither deceitful nor knavish, which is the unsavoury words thou charges on us, let the truth of God in all Consciences judge, to whom they belong, the Scriptures we are not against, they bear testimony of Christ the light whom we witness the way to the father. Mat. 1. 27. None knows the father but the Son, and he to whom the Son will reveal him, by the revelation of the Spirit of God, is the things of God known to his people, 1 Cor. 2. 9 10. 13. Ro. 8. 11. 16. according as is recorded we witness the Scriptures, fulfilled in Christ the light who is our life, Col. 3. 3. 4. And whereas thou queries, did ever any read of the law and testimony in the heart, and that the law and testimony in the heart, is the law of the new Covenant. Reply. Who hath read the Scripture in the fear of God, hath read what the Lord hath promised as declared, Isa. 8. 16. Bind up the testimony, seal the law, among my Disciples, and Jer. 31. 33. This shall be the Covenant. I will make with the house of Israel, in those days saith the Lord, I will put my Laws in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts, Heb. 8. 10 11, 12. and the law written in the heart we witness, and the Lord faithful in performing according to his Promise in the new Covenant. And thou goes on in the 19 and 20. Pa, calling us impostors and pervertors of the new Covenant, and to be in Idle proud fancies, and itching humours of our own brains in our Apostate Condition. Reply. We in the light can bear thy reproach, and have witnessed the truth that it may stand a witness against thy revilings, and in the Lord we rest, who will make manifest, whether thou or we be the perverters of the new Covenant, and guilty of what thou charges us with. And whereas thou in the 22. Pa. says that W. Dewesberry. tells us that the mighty day of the Lord is appeared in the North of England, and is rising towards the South, and shall overspread this Nation, and all the Natious of the world, etc. what the man's fancy and design is in bruiting and making such a noise of the appearance of the mighty day of the Lord judge ye, I am sure he hath sufficiently discovered his own folly in blazing abroad such dreams of his own lying heart, etc. Reply. In thy 2. Pa. thou hath enlarged thyself concerning that Book calling it a lying paper, etc. and the truth is witnessed in answer to thy charge, and this in answer to what is here written, fancies, brutishness, folly dreams, and lies, W. Deusberry denys the truth he hath declared, as the Lord hath him moved, in faithfulness to the souls of all people, that they be not found the slothful servants, putting the day of the Lord a far off, in this his day wherein the hour of his righteous judgement is come, (Rev. 14. 7.) to all that wait on him, the truth is declared, that all men may prepare in the light the Lord to meet, and no longer in slothfulness remain, lest he come upon them as a thief in the night, and if the day of the Lord do not arise over all the world, and the kingdoms of the world, become the kingdoms of our Lord and his Christ, and the Lord, perform not as is declared, then say the Lord hath not spoken by me who is known to the world by name William Dewsberry. And in the 22. Pa. thou says we have set ourselves in the Throne of Christ judging the whole world. Reply. Thy accusation is false, self we deny, to Christ we are snbject who sits on his Throne, and is come and coming in his Saints to judge the world, Judas 14, 15. 1 Cor. 6. 2. and 2. 5. And in the 23. Pa. thou sayest, why do not we command the dead to rise, and appear before us, and many other unsavoury words are there expressed. Reply. A wicked and adulterous generation, shall seek after a sign, and there shall no sign be given it, but the sign of the Prophet Jona, Mat. 16. 4. And whereas thou charges howgil, and Burrough (as thou calls them) with pernicious blasphemous opinions. Reply. Thy accusation is false, they are faithful men, serveing their generation in the light, Ministers of Christ, in whom is witnessed the God head dwelling bodily, Coll. 2. 9 and in him were one in God, they that join to the Lord are one spirit, 1 Cor. 6. 17. he that can receive it let him. And whereas thou in the 29. Pa. saith that the Revelations of Christ that are according to Scripture, are either texts of Scripture, expressed, or rational deductions consequences and conclusions; that naturally flow from particular passages of Scriptures, and not any other revelations can be pleaded for as rule. Reply. Thy dark mind is shut out from knowing the revelations of Christ, and though thou say that answer that was returned to these words was not to purpose, it stands a witness against thee, and will be found to purpose in the light, when thy reward thou shalt have, for all thy unsavoury words expressed in thy Book. And in the 33. Pa. where thou falsely accuses us, that we will allow of no Laws of God nor Scripture, but the Revelations and edicts of our own bewitched hearts, etc. And when thou hast reviled us with false accusation as before written, thou beseeches those thou call, thy dear friends to be serious in their thoughts of what thou hast written, in discovering our deceits and blasphemies denying the rule that all things are to be tried by, and make themselves the absolute rule, and we must not question what they say though it be never so insolent, and to be abhorred of all sober Christians etc. Reply. Thou hath brazned thy face to slander the truth of God, with lies and blasphemies, which is the foundation of all heresy, and there thou art found and thy accusation is false, Christ the rule that all things is to be tried by, we own and ourselves deny, and to the light of Christ in all Consciences, we appeal, whether thou or we deny the rule, thou that sayest the revelations of Christ, are either texts of Scripture expressed, or rational deductions consequences, etc. as before written, or we who witness Christ the true light, revealed by the father, and none knows the father but the Son and he to whom the Son will reveal him, Mat. 11. 27. Luke 10. 22, Let all that are in Christ with sobriety in the light judge. And for the rest of thy slanders in the 37. and 38. Pa. where thou says, these miserable worms uncovenant themselves and un-Christ themselves, as if they cared not for grace and mercy in standing before God, denying the Scripture, etc. and in the 40. Pa. thou sayest of those in scorn called Quakers, thou can safely say they deny the benefit that comes to the Church, by Christ suffering in that flesh, ●hat he received from the Virgin Mary, or else deny it to be are all body of flesh and so make it but a type and a figure of Christ in the Saints who are his true real body, which he now suffers in, and by his suffering makes satisfaction, for them making the death of the Cross of none effect. Reply. The miserable worms that uncovenant themselves and un-Christ, themselves, who denys Christ the light thou art found to be one, whom thy dark mind art working abomination, and making lies, which thou hast published to the world, in thy Books, and thy place thou may read as is recorded, Rev. 21. 27. and the rest of thy accusations, recorded in 40. Pa. we witness against, and for the Simple sake declare as followeth that benefit came to the Church by Christ suffering, in that body God gave which was born of the Virgin Mary, and with one offering hath Christ perfected for ever, them that are sanctified, Heb. 10. 14. and these are his Saints in whom he is now revealed, who are his body, Eph. 1. 23. which now suffered by thee, and all that are of the murdering generation, who bore false witness against Christ, when he was in that body which they crucified at Jerusalem, and thou hast manifest thyself to be of the same murdering generation, who hath published to the world the false witness against the innocent, to perfect thy evil intent, towards the body of Christ, if the Lord prevent thee not, but thou shalt know the Lord faithful, that thou and all that forms your tongues against him shall fall in judgement, Isa. 54. 17. And what is charged upon thee in answer to thy reply to the answer to the third question, that thou sets at nought the corner stone, and prefers the testimony of him before him, limiting the eternal son of God as thou hath in what is Printed in the 55. Pa. where thou speaks of the Scripture that they are designed of God, to be the only instrument and vessel of his spirit, to convey the knowledge of Christ as Redeemer to lost man, and without them Christ is not known at all to any saveing ends. Reply. Who art thou that dare thus utter words without knowledge, Christ is known where the Father reveals him to be the souls life, whether they have the Scripture yea, or nay, according to the will of God▪ he makes known his mind of his people, who wait upon him in his fear, and the secrets of the Lord are with those that fear him, Psal. 25. 14. And the spirit of the Lord is witness with our spirits that we are the children of God, O man repent, lest the Lord cut thee off, and thou perish in thy gainsayings. And further what thou hath written in Reply, to what was returned in answer to the question before mentioned, the most of the false accusations is answered, in what was returned to the former part of the Book and all thy false accusations and reproaches denied with the light, and for the Simples sake there is returned in answer to thy questions which thou hast propounded. 1. Qu. Where we read of a perfect law of God in the heart, and where it is made the Rule and Ground of the Saints obedience. Ans. The Law of God is perfect, Psal. 19 7. and is the rule to which the Saints are to walk in obedience to, and to be guided by, Psal. 119. 12. and the Law to be in the heart is proved, Psal. 40. 8. I delight to do thy will O God, yea thy law is within my heart. 2. Qu. Whether the law in the heart be under another Covenant, distinct from, the perfect law of God declared in Scripture. 3. Qu. What were to understand by the law of God i n the heart, which is the same with Scripture, whether the 10. Commandments written in Tables of stone only, or all those positive Precepts of Gospel worship and obedience conjoined with them also. Ans. To thy 2. and 3. Question in the old Covenant the Law was written in Tables of stone, which Law having a shadow of good things to come and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect. Heb. 10. 1. And when he came who saith, Lo I come to do thy will O God, he taketh away the first that he may establish the second, ver. 9 by which will we are sanctified thorough the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all, ver. 10. and by one offering he hath perfected for ever them, that are sanctified, whereof the holy Ghost is a witness to us, as he said before, this is the covenant that I will make with them, saith the Lord, I will put my Laws in their hearts, and in their minds will I write them, ver. 14, 15, 16. Jer. 31. 33. 4 Qu. Whether the Law in the heart, without the use of Scriptures make any Evangelical discoveries of the person, natures, and Offices of Christ, as he is Redeemer of lost man? Ans. Thy feigned words we wave, the truth we witness, the Law in the heart witnessed in the New Covenant, Christ is known to be King of Kings, and Lord of Lords, 1 Tim. 6. 15. And the faithful High Priest, Heb. 2. 17. 3. 1. 4. 15. 5. 6 7. 26. 10. 2●. who hath made us Kings and Priests to God and his Father, etc. Rev. 1. 6. 5 Qu. Whether all shall be saved, that have the Law of God written in their hearts, by virtue of the New Covenant, or any be saved that live to years of discretion, that know not Christ, as the Scriptures testify of him, in order to his coming to the world to save sinners? Ans. All are saved, who are guided by the righteous Law of the Spirit of life in Christ, which sets them free from the Law of sin and death, Rom. 8. 2. And what years soever any live unto, they have no discretion to know Christ, as the Scriptures testify of him, but they who in his light waits upon him, to be guided by him; for who hath not the Spirit of Christ, is none of his, Rom, 8. 9 And for the rest of thy aspersions, and revile thou hast writ, calling us deceivers that fear the Authority of man, or else we would deny Christ himself. Reply. Christ we do not deny, but him we own, who respects no man's person, Rom. 2. 11. and in him no fear of man is, and we in him Reigns over thee, and all the authority of the power of darkness, that stands in opposition to Christ, the Son of God, to whom every knee must bow, Phil. 2. 10. the day shall declare it. And in what thou hast replied, to the Answer to the fourth Question, which thou charges to be untrue, to say That man in the fall, as he stands in the state of corrupt nature, hath not therein any light without Christ, to do any thing acceptable to God, etc. Which thou goes about to prove the contrary, and saith there is the light and use of reason, and understanding faculties, though corrupted. And further thou says, This light of corrupt reason, as before expressed, presents to the conscience good and evil, etc. Reply. In the light thou art seen to be in the corrupt Fountain, from whence all these corrupt words hath come, which thou hast Printed in thy Book, and thy words are not true. Corrupt reason of man doth not present to the conscience, things good and evil, a corrupt Tree cannot bring forth good fruit, Mat. 7, 18. There is nothing makes manifest darkness, but light, Ephes. 5. 15. which all men in the Fall is gone from, out of the way, and there is none that doth good, no not one, Rom. 3. 9, 10, 11, etc. And the natural man receives not the things that are of God, nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned, 1 Cor. 12. 14. And all the righteousness of man in this state, is as a filthy rag, and a menstruous cloth, Isa. 64. 6. And this is the state of man in corrupt nature: And the light that convinces man of this dark and corrupt estate he is in, is the light of Christ that convinces the World of sin, righteousness, and judgement, John 16. 8. So we that were sometimes darkness, are now light in the Lord, Ephes. 5. 8. And who walk in the light, there is no occasion of stumbling, 1 John 2. 10. And whereas thou sayest, Thou knows we will lie, as thou hast made it manifest. Reply. It is not so, thou hath not made yet manifest any lie that we have spoken, by any truth thou hath declared. And thou goes on, as in thy 89 Page thou says, The rational soul of man corrupted, is called the candle of the Lord, which we invent to be Christ; which is false, we deny that the corrupt soul of man is the candle of the Lord, or Christ. And further thou says, It was thy intended work to go thorough all the Answers to the ten Questions, but for want of thy paper, which thou sa●es we detained from thee, contrary to our Promise. In which thou says not true, for the promise was to thee thou should have a copy of thy paper which thou sent to us when it was ready for thee, which was not then written, neither was any time set down of thy having it, and as way was made, a copy according to our promise, came to thy hands. And in the close of thy Book, thou goes on as thou begun, saying we deny Scriptures as to the end they were intended, and reproach the Ordinances of the Lord Jesus, which the Scriptures teach, under the notion of heathenish worships, etc. which is answered to in the truth declared, a witness to stand against all the reproaches, that thou hast cast upon the truth of the living God, and the God thou art pleading for cannot crown thee with honour, in the day wherein the living God will exalt his son, and clear the innocency of his people, then shall the God whose worship thou art defending, be confounded, and confusion and shame shall stop thy mouth, and if this come not to pass as declared, then say the Lord hath not spoken by me. And in that thou calls thy Postscript in the end of thy Book, the things therein thou falsely accuses us with, and calls them the Rocks which we are to manifest how we shall escape, which is clearly made manifest in what is written in answer to thy Book. Only this, where thou says we make no difference between the visible professing Church, and the Pagan world, all may be saved alike if they will, etc. Reply. They that make a visible Profession of Christ, and deny to walk in the light of his Spirit, are of the world that lies in wickedness, 1 John 5. 19 Mat. 7. 21. as well as them thou calls the Pagan world; and not any can be saved by what they do in their own wills, all that is done in that nature is abomination to God, as is plain in the Answer to what thou hast writ in the 70 Page. It is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that shows mercy, Rom. 9 16. which he makes manifest in the riches of his grace, in Christ the light, who leads all that obey him, in the straight way of self-denial, and the daily cross, in obedience to the will of God, which is our sanctification: And he that sanctifieth, and they that are sanctified are one, Heb. 2. 4. 1 Thess. 4. 31. He that can receive it, let him. For the truth's sake, that the simple be not turned out of the way, by the false accusations, reproaches, and aspersions thou hast cast upon it, what is before written in Answer to thee, the truth doth clear, and the Answer to thy ten Questions, which thou charges to be deceitful, that they may witness for themselves against what thou hast cast upon them, that all that desire to know the truth may them read. The Questions and Answers are as followeth. 1 Qu. Whether the writings of the Scriptures are a declaration of the Holy will and mind of God, that necessarily oblige the servants of God that profess them, to believe and observe whatever is revealed therein, to be believed and done; and whether the Scripture alone be a perfect Rule of faith and life, unto all of years amongst us▪ yea or nay? Ans. The Scriptures is a true declaration of the things believed amongst the Saints, and a true testimony of Jesus Christ, but not any doth them know, neither can believe what is written therein, by the outward declaration and testimony of Scripture, but by the word of Faith, which is in the heart, and in the mouth, which is the word of Faith which we Preach, Rom. 10. 7, 8. 2 Qu. Whether any other Revelations and Observations, not to be found in the Scripture, be binding to the consciences of those persons that have the benefit of the Scripture, or whether such revelations or dictates within a man's heart and soul, be as binding to the conscience, and to be urged to a man's self, or others, as the Scriptures are. Ans. The revelations of Jesus Christ, is according to Scripture, which Revelations binds up the Testimony, and seals the Law in the hearts of his Disciples; and what dictates is in the conscience or heart of man, contrary to the Law and Testimony, is not to be regarded, but disowned and judged with the light which comes from Christ, the Saints life, who guides them in a pure life, and holy conversation, according to Scripture, Isa. 8. 20. 3 Qu. Whether any thing besides the Scripture, is constituted of the blessed God to reveal Christ as Redeemer and Saviour, to the spirit of miserable lost man, to bring man unto happiness, or whether corrupt man without the knowledge of Scripture, may ordinarily attain unto salvation, yea or nay? Ans. No man can come to the Son any other way, but whom the Father draweth by the power of his unlimited Spirit, and never any shall know the Father, but he to whom the Son reveals him; and he that thinks to attain the way to eternal life, by reading the letter of the Scripture, and regards not the light that comes from Christ, that witnesseth for God in the secret of the heart and conscience, he deceives himself, for the mystery of eternal life is sealed up in the sealed Book, from all the Sons and Daughters of men; and none shall ever know it by the outward testimony of Scripture, but by the inspiration of the Spirit of Jesus Christ, the Lion of the Tribe of Judah, who is found worthy to open the seals of the Book, and is the way, the truth, and the life, to all that in his light wait, his power them to guide, in faithful obedience to the righteous and perfect Law of God, written in the heart, for the exercise of the conscience, which keeps them void of offence towards God, and towards men, according to testimony of Scripture, Acts 24. 16. 23. 1. 4 Qu. Whether that light of conscience which is more or less in all since the fall, be the remains or some relics left of the first Adam, in reference to the Covenant of works, or whether common to all, from the redemption of the second Adam, as flowing from the Covenant of grace, or how else? I desire you would clearly express your thoughts in this. Ans. Man in the fallen estate hath not any light remains in him, to guide him to do any thing well pleasing to God, as he stands in the state of corrupt nature; for all his righteousness is as filthy rags, and as a menstruous cloth, the light that convinceth man and woman of the evil of their hearts, and discovers the filthiness of all their own righteousness, is the light that comes from Christ, the true light that lighteth every man that comes into the world, John 1. 9 And this light is not common to man by nature, it is the great gift of God, his grace that hath appeared, and teacheth all that are guided by it, to deny all ungodliness▪ and worldly lusts, and to live godily and soberly in this present evil world; and all that walk contrary to the light, this is their condemnation, the light, John 3. 19 5 Qu. Whether the end of God in giving and continuing this kind of light to all men in the world, was not to be a restraint and curb to the exorbitant lusts of so corrupt a creature as man, and so made subservant to God in the Government of the world, in order to the peace and continuance of the same, and to leave all without excuse, Or what besides this the end of God was, that this kind of light should be minded and improved according to the power of man by what he is from creation or universal grace or redemption, in order to eternal happiness; and the not heeding this light in all men, shall be the only condemnation of the world. Or whether this light be the Gospel, or Christ, or his Spirit, or whether it be a light either equal with, or inferior to, or of a different kind with the Scriptures? Ans. The light which comes from Christ is given of God, to guide the creature out of its own strength and power, to Christ the mighty power and wisdom of God, the creature to guide with moderation, in the use of all creatures, and to order and govern the creation to the praise and glory of God: And this light is of the pure nature of God, and leads to Christ the everlasting Gospel. And this is the condemnation of the world, that hates the light which comes from Christ, because they believe not in him, John 3. 18. 6. Qu. Whether the light of Conscience the light of Scripture, the light of providence, the light of grace, ought not to be pressed upon all, to reform them, and draw them up to a higher pitch of Christian obedience, according to the written word of the Lord. Ans. Thou with all who are in the light is seen to be in thy wisdom, querying after many lights, but as is formerly written, in answer to thy 4. Quest. the●e is but one true light, Christ who lighteth every one that comes into the world, and all his ministers turns the minds of people from darkness to Christ the true light, in it to wait on him for his power to destroy the power of Satan, and to lead in the straight narrow way of self denial and the daily Cross, which is the way into the Kingdom of God, who ever will be my Disciple, (saith Christ) he must deny himself, and take up his Cross daily, and follow me, Luke 19 23. 7. Qu. Whether a sinner condemned by the Law, is made just before God, unto eternal life, by an inherent power within, or work of Sanctification, or whether by the satisfaction, and suffering of Christ in man's nature, and behalf,, rested on by faith. Ans. The Creature whose Conscience is awakened by the light, the righteous Law of God in the heart, which shows it, its sinful state, and stands condemned before the Throne of God for disobeying the light, shall never be justified by any self righteousness, for it is uncleanness in the sight of God, for justification is through faith in the Lord Jesus, but this faith which lays hold on Christ for justification, is not attained by any power the creature hath of its self, neither can any know it, who receive honour one of another, Joh. 5. 44. How can ye believe who receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that comes from God only, faith is the gift of God, given to the Children of light, who waits in the light on the Lord, in the way of his judgements, Isa. 26. 8. till judgement be brought forth into victory, that the creature be brought into true poverty, of spirit, for ever to perish, without free redemption in the Lord Jesus, which the father in his appointed time, reveals the son to the soul, that stands condemned before him, and by the arm of his mighty power, creates it to a lively hope, and he that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure, so whom he justifieth he sanctifieth, and he that saith he is justified and liveth in sin deceiveth himself, for faith purifieth the heart, and purgeth the Conscience from dead works to serve the living God, which is witnessed in the Children of light, according to testimony of Scripture. Heb. 9 14. 8. Qu. Whether the person or essence of Christ, or his spirit dwell in any upon earth, or whether by his gifts and graces only, or whether all those that have Christ in them, must forsake all outward teaching of men, and whether the Scripture be but a dead letter, and of no use, otherways than Christ within doth witness unto them. Ans. He that knows not Christ to be in him is a reprobate, for he that hath not the Spirit of Christ is none of his, and he that is guided by the spirit of Christ, needs not any teaching of man, (for you shall not need to teach one another, for all my Children shall be taught of me, saith the Lord God,) and the Scripture is but a kill letter, but of use in its place, d testimony of Christ, but not any knows Christ by it, for Christ is known by the light of his spirit, which gave forth the Scriptures, and all that are guided by his spirit knows the Scripture in the truth as it is in Jesus, ●ph. 4. 21. 9 Qu. Whether the conversion that was wrought upon the souls of many, under the ordinary outward ministry of the word, in our public assembles, turning men from darkness to light, from profaneness to true Godliness, be true unto salvation, and whether those that have been thus converted were in the state of salvation, before they joined themselves unto your society, or whether can none be converted, and saved, that never came under, nor gave their assent to the dispensation of your way, and how you will justifye yours to be in the true and good old way, that all have and shall be saved in, you may do well to make it out by some evident demonstration. Ans. Who can witness a true conversion by the power of the spirit of God, in turning their minds from darkness to light, that comes from Christ, and in his light wait to receive the sentence of death in themselves, to destroy all self confidence in any thing below Christ, and in the state of death to wait till that they hear the voice of the Son of God, and by his power was raised up to a living hope in Christ to walk, who throw his blood do witness their garments washed and made white, to reign Kings and Priests upon the earth for ever, to worship the father in spirit and truth, and who ever can witness this conversion whether it were wrought when they frequented your public assemblies, or absented from them, this conversion we own who it can witness, and of our way they are, and will to us come, and all shall know the truth we witness is the good old way, that all souls that came to God walked in, Christ the way the truth and the life, the ancient of days, which was before time, but manifest in time in all the Children of light, who doth them lead in the narrow way of self denial, and the daily Cross, with him to enter, thorough the straight gate, into the holy City, new Jerusalem, where the soul hath union which the father of light, and beholds his face, and his name is written in their foreheads, and there is no night there, neither need of Candle, nor light of the Sun, for the Lord God giveth them light, and they shall reign for ever and ever, Rev. 22. 5. 10. Whether any of your way attain unto perfection in this life, that they can truly say that they do all that God commands, without failing, either in matter or in manner of obedience, no not in thought, word and deed, and whether the persons of any stand just before God, that are not thus perfect. Ans. All that are in the way we are in, which is Christ the way to the Father, in whom all in their measure are pressing on to the fullness of stature in Christ the perfect man, and who in him is grown to the fullness of stature, in his power doth stand, which doth them guide, that in their mouths is found no guile, for they are without fault before the Throne of God, Rev. 14. 5. FINIS.