THE HOLY SCRIPTURES From Scandals are cleared. OR An Answer to a Book set forth by the Baptizers; to wit, Henry Hagger and Thomas Pollard, Entitled, The Holy Scriptures clearing itself of Scandals: But is scandalled or perverted, and so scandalised by them, as in this Answer to theirs will further appear, so by them Entitled, or bearing the Title of an Answer to a Book written by Richard Farnsworth, called, Truth cleared, or Truth lifting up its head above Scandals: occasioned by a dispute at Harliston in Staffordshire, between Richard Farnsworth and Thomas Pallard, in the year, 1654. Also here is in this, the heads of an Order, or late Act made at Coventry, by the Baptised People there, subscribed with the names of seven Elders and Brethren, as they say, in the behalf of the rest, and set forth; from them sent to Shittington in Warwickshire, showing whom they denied to be Ministers and Members of Christ, &c, which is set down in this and several Considerations or Observations, and Answers thereunto. And something here is, in Answer to a false Prophet, called John Griffith, set out by him and several others, in a false Prophecy or Book, bearing the Title of True Gospel Faith, collected into 30 Articles: or in the middle part called, A Voice from the Word of the Lord, with at least an hundred lies numbered up out of the Books as aforesaid, being answered, such as are of concernment; and they are with the other sent to them back in a bundle or number, as herein will appear; and being cast out, now truth stands pure and clear.  Pror. 18.18. 
The lot causeth contentions to cease, and parteth between the mighty.  
Written by a Servant of the Lord, in the sixth Month, 1655. by R. F.  
London, Printed for Giles Calvert, at the Sign of the Black Spread-Eagle, at the West end of Paul's, 1655.   

To the Reader, and whom it may concern, etc.  
READER, instead of an Epistle I shall lay down a few of the particulars, or affirmatives in that act or law made by the water baptised people at Coventry, and sent to Shittington, signed or subscribed at the end with the names of Mannasses King an Elder and Jefford Youngbone an Elder, John Murdock, Francis Blabby, John Fairbrother, George Copson, and Thomas Hardway, Brethren, who from Coventrey say they subscribed it in the name of the rest, etc. And from them I shall lay down some observations, or answers thereunto.  
The second thing which in that Coventrey law or late Act, is that they say they deny any to be Ministers of (Christ and) the Gospel, or to speak in the Church, that say they speak from or by an internal light & prove it not by the visible rule of the Scriptures, etc.  
And by this rule and law though God be light, 1 Joh. 1.5. and dwell within in his people (2 Cor. 6.16. 1. Joh. 4.4.) yet he must be debarred or limited and not suffered to speak in the Church, except he confine himself to the letter of the Scriptures, and that is contrary to his former actings for to be limited, and who are you that dare presume or offer to seek to limit the holy one of Israel.  
As much as to say though Abraham, Isaac and jacob, were endued with the Spirit of God, yet except they could prove what they said by the words of Adam, Enoch and Noah they might not be permitted to speak from the Spirit of God, in the things of God revailed, and made known unto them thereby.  
Though Moses, Aaron, Caleb, and Joshuah might be guided by the Spirit of God, yet except they could prove by words from Abraham, Isaac, and jacob, what from the Spirit of God they had to declare, they might not speak of the things of God, but be denied to be any Ministers or Messengers of God.  
Though Samuel, and the rest of the Lords true established Prophets; that were by him called and sent, and could witness that the Lord God and his Spirit did call establish and send them; yet if they said so, and said they spoke from an internal light, or the Spirit of God within; and could not prove by Scripture or the writings of Moses and those before them, all that that they said, they might not be suffered to speak, but be denied to be the Ministers and Messengers of God.  
Though the Ministers of the new Covenant, had the light and the heavenly treasure within them; 2 Cor. 4.6.7, and were guided by the Spirit of God, Rom. 8.14. who made them able Ministers of the new Covenant not of the letter but of the Spirit: 2 Cor. 3.6. and they was not to serve in the oldness of the letter, but in the newness of the Spirit: Rom. 7.6, yet if they said they preached from an internal light, or the Spirit of God within them, etc. and denied (to prove all they said by the Scripture or) to serve in the oldness of the letter; and not Minister from the Letter, but from the Spirit in which their Ministry stood, they might not by these baptised people be suffered to speak but be denied to be any Ministers or messengers of Christ though his true Ambassadors, take notice you Baptizsts of your error herein, and acknowledge the same, and own your condemnation thereupon,  
And where you say you deny any to be members of Christ that either go themselves or suffer others to go hear them that preach from an internal light, etc.  
Here you are against Christ the true light, and against the Ministry of the Gospel, and against the Kingdom of Christ in the Spirit, against the new Covenant and the doctrine of the Apostles also, that were Ministers from the light, and the life of the Spirit within, which you deny, and they were Ministers of the Spirit and not of the letter, and said to others try all things and hold fast that which is good; 1 Thessa. 5.21. Here you are against the Scriptures also, that would deprive people of a Christian liberty, that so bind them by your law, contrary to the Gospel, and contrary to the doctrine of Christ and his Apostles; for the true Christ saith, Preach the Gospel to every Creature; but you would not have every Creature to hear it Preached, by the Spirit in the power of light, in the endless life, that so denies them liberty to hear those that are Ministers of the new Covenant, and not of the letter, but of the Spirit, 2 Cor. 3.6. so hereby your Spirits are discovered and made manifest to be Antichristian.  
Again, you say you deny liberty for any to object in the Churches either in the time of speaking or after, etc. In this you have denied the true Spirits order, who said, If any thing be reveiled (and that is not by the letter but by the Spirit, 1 Cor. 2.10) to him that sits or stands by; let the first hold his peace, and let the other speak: etc. 1 Cor. 14.30: But you say the contrary, and therefore you have crossed the Scripture; and denied the true Spirits order, to further make manifest your disorder and also your Spirit of delusion and error.  
And again you say God will judge the secrets of all hearts by the written word, or letter of the Scripture, when the Minister of Christ saith the contrary, who saith that, God will Judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ, Rom, 2.16: than not by the lettet of the Scripture, and the Son saith, All judgement is Committed unto him, and the Father hath given him authority to execute judgement also, because he is the Son, but he hath not given authority to the letter of the Scripture, to execute judgement, because it is the letter of the Scripture, and declareth or testifieth of the Son, but is not the Son, than the Scripture is not the judge of all hearts, but the Son is so, to wit, the judge of all hearts, as the Scripture declareth, Joh. 5.22, and Joh. 5,26.27. Act. 17 31. Take notice how you would deprive Christ of his Kingly office, and take the authority from him to put upon the letter: and hath again thereby further manifested your Spirit of error.   

THE HOLY SCRIPTURES Are cleared of Scandals; OR AN ANSWER TO A BOOK, Written by Thomas Pallord & Henry Hagger As they say, In Answer to a Book set ●orth by Richard Farnworth; wherein they pretend to clear the truth of Scandals, but are found Liars, and the Lies is sent them back in a bundle or number, that they may see their deceit, and Spirit or Lies, Errors and Slanders.  
THo: Pallord and Henry Hagger, who are mighty in the work of your Father, John 8.44. you pretend to clear the truth of Scandals, but of it are Liars and Scandallers, and evil Speakers, and false Accusers; and therefore that you may take notice of the fruit of your Father's Spirit, by which you are guided and taught to lie: I have viewed your work, or scandalous and deceitful Book, and gathered out of it, being numbered up, the sum of (60 and odd, or) Threescore Lies and more, besides many that I have passed by; these being sufficient for to manifest your Spirit and the deceit of your heart; as also several lies gathered out of a Paper, written or caused to be Printed under the name of John Griffith, oue of the water Baptizers with you, or in your number,; and I hare also sent them back amongst you into the liars Generation again: take them and keep them, for they are returned back upon you, and into the liars generation from whence they came, that Truth may be kept clear, and you appear in your lying colours, or be laid open who are such great deceivers, unto your shame, who hath taken upon you to slander and revile the Lotds' people (by you in disdain called Quakers) and also to Prophesy or publish your lies in pretence of the Lords Name: But to bo wort, I shall lay several of them down, & return them back upon you from whence they came,  
Tho: Pollard; Thou hast set down things which I neither spoke nor writ, and says, I affirmed them, when I did not; and therefore thy gronnds being lies, that which springs out of them is so, as well as thy Grounds or Heads; but I turn them under, and drive them back with the rest of thy Lies into the Serpent's seat ugain, & liars Generation from whence they came.  

E●…or or Lie the first  In thy third page, Thou says it is such a deceit, that they that say they have no sin the truth is not in them; but thou cannot prove thy saying therein, whose fallacy is laid down in that word [they] which includes any; when the Scripture says not so, as thou dost; and therefore, in that, thou hast lied of the truth and truths friends, as it appeareth. And here thou goes about to prove, that Christ, and such as are in him, hath no truth in them, and that is contradiction to the Scripture and the Spirits Doctrine; for thou fetbheth Christ in with them, and includes all in that word [they] saying, They that say they have no sin, the truth is not in thom: as much as to say, They that are without sin, are without truth, and have no truth in them, but Christ, and such as are in him are without sin: Therefore if they say they are without sin, there is no truth in them (as thou says) for that is contrary to thy proofless Argument: Pollard or Hagger, whether of you laid it down, take notice of your folly therein; here thou would [by that] have Christ, and such as are in him, to have no truth in them: see what a trick the deceit hath taught thee in that, for first it is said of Christ, That he sinned not, and so was without sin, for no guile was found in his month; and therefore he was without sin, and the truth was in him, contrary to thy lying of him; for he is both the way, the truth, and the life, Joh. 14.6. and is without sin, but full of truth, and such as abide in him they sin not, as saith the Scripture, 1 Joh. 3.5,6. than such as abide in Christ sin not, as the Scripture saith, they are without sin, 1 John 3.9. and the truth is in them; for such said, That as he was, so was they in this present world, 1 John 4.16,17. Pallard, take notice of thy Errors and Lies, and also of thy contradiction of the Scripture; For they that did abide in Christ, and sinned not, 1 John 3.6. they were so far trom being without truth, or having no truth in them, that they were full of grace and truth, for the Spirit of God was in them, which was truth and no lie, 1 John 3.24.  
And secondly, the word of God was in them, 1 John 2.14. and they were strong in the Lord and the power of his truth, for they had overcome the wicked one, and the word of God were abiding in them; and so the truth of God abode within them, for saith Christ to his Father, Sanctify them with thy word, thy word is truth, John 17.17. Then they that had overcome the wicked one, and were sanctified through the truth, and were without sin, having also the word of God abiding within, they were full of truth, and not without it, or no truth in them: take notice of thy absurdities and lies, for they had the holy Unction within them that were without sin, and that was truth and no lie, 1 John 2.20. and 27. and greater was he that was in them, than he that was in the World, 1 john 4.4. take notice of thy lie, and that trick of thy deceit.  

Error or Lie the second.  Thy second Lie] is that, thou says we boast of perfection: perfection in and by Christ we own, else we should deny the truth and the work of grace according to the working of the Spirit of God, as it is witnessed according to the Scripture, and by the Ministry of Christ in the new Covenant, Math. 5.48. and Eph. 4.11.12.13. 1 Cor. 2.6. Heb. 6.1. Heb. 12.22.23, but though we witness to the truth and the work of the Spirit of Grace, yet boasting of perfection, &c: that we deny and therefore thou hast acted Antichrists spirit, and told thy second Lie]  

Error or Lie the third  In thy third Lie] thou says that we make it our whole work to turn away poor souls from the truth, but art without proof for that Lie, for such as are guided by the Spirit of truth, to turn people from the darkness to the light, turns them to the truth, and not from it, (as thou says) Act. 26.16.17.18. and we being so guided are made instrumental to turn people, from the darkness to the light, and so from the power of Satan to the power of God, and many souls that art turned to the truth can witness for us, and against thee, and such thy disciples, who hast herein manifested thy third Lie] and so made it thy work to Lie, and business to sin and do evil, which is the work of thy Father the Devil.  

Lrror or Lie the fourth and fifth.  Thou says we turn people from the Scriptures: so didst thou say to me at Harliston, but could not prove it, and many reproved thee for it.  
And in thy fifth lie] thou sayest we turn them from the ordinances or Christ.  

Error or Lies the 6. 7. etc.  And in thy sixth Lie] thou says that we are proud, presumptuous, and selfwilled, but art to prove thy lying slanders therein, and all that fears God, and knows our conversation, may witness against such thy absurdities or thy gross Lies.  
Lie the seventh] Thou says we strike at Jesus Christ, but such as are obedient to him, do not strike at him neither are they selfwilled nor proud and as thou-saies, but we obey him that walk in his statutes, and keep his ordinances as he hath delivered them unto us, therefore t●ou art charged with the Lies left behind, and they shall stand for thyself, and such in thy nature]  
And thy eight Lie] is where thou says that we are scorners: but scorning we deny, and also striking at Jesus, or doing as thou says, and therefore thou art charged with the Lies who makes lying thy refuge.  
In thy tench Lie] thou says we are turned with the dog to his vomit, and the sow that was washed to the wallowing in the mire: and that thou canst not prove, and therefore in it, art the Liar, as also in the other, accompanied with the tenth Lie, to and in thy sixth page.]  
The eleventh, Lie] is in page the seventh, where thou says we impudently boast of perfection: but impudence, and also boasting as I said before that we deny, and there in thou art charged with the eleventh Lie]  
And in Lie the twelfth] thou says we judge all to be in darkness that throws not away the rule of truth: But we judge all to be in the light, and not in darkness, that are led by the Spirit of God, the rule and guide into all truth, for they that are led by the Spirit of God are we Sons of God, Rom. 8.14, etc. Joh. 16.13. Gala. 4.6: and there again thou art charged with another Lie, which makes up the number a whole dozen, or twelve of thy Lies, left without proof, take notice thereof and be thou ashamed and Haggar also, who is thy backer or partaker therein, that hath either acted the same or joined with thee to carry on that deceit, wherein so many Lies are brought forth and more also, which may be for your shame.  
In the thirteenth Lie] Thou says we justify ourselves: but self-justification we do deny: and therefore thou art left charged with the thirteenth Lie.  
And thou says we judge rashly of all men that are not of our mind calling them Devils, etc. But that is as the rest of thy proofless Lies] though thou say thou can show it under some of our hands; I charge thee to do it, if thou canst, or else thou art left changed with the fourteenth Lie]  
And Lie the fifteenth sixteenth and seventeenth with the other in page the seventh; Thou says we glory in appearances appearances, having a kind of voluntary humility, and saith we go about to set up ourselves, and not the Lord: but self is by us denied, who walk in obedience to the commands and teachings of the Spirit of the Lord: and voluntary humility that we deny, and all false and fleshly appearances which is not the Lords, and therefore the fifteen sixteen and seventeenth Lies] are left for thee, and shall stand for thyself, take them in again, for they are returned back into the Liars generation from whence they come.  
And in thy 18 lie] Thou slandereth us with deluding tongues; and Lie the nineteenth, with outside holiness; and in Lie the twentieth, with and for throwing dirt in the face of truth.  
And in lie 21, Thou says we destroy men by our doctrine, etc.  
Lie the 22. Which had its rise from Hell as thou says, but these are but like the rest of thy lies who art so accustomed to it, and therefore goes on in it, to manifest thy deluding tongue, lying and hellish doctrine, etc. proceeding from an Erroneous and deceitful Spirit, for lying and deluding tongues is by us denied, who walk in obedience to the truth through the Spirit, as such did 2 Pet. 1.22.23. who were borne again and were of the incorruptible seed: and all outside holiness which is not the holiness of God, is by us denied, and throwing dirt in the face of truth, shall stand for thyself, who art such an abominable liar; which is by us denied, and also, all doctrine that is from darkness and Hell, arid thou canst not prove what thou hast said; thy witness is but from darkness, and the corruptions of thy evil heart, and so of thyself; and not true, therefore the 18. 19 20, 21. and 22 Lies with the rest of thy Antichristian work is charged upon thee, and left for thyself and such as with thee in it, hath taken thy part, take notice of thy errors or lies, and thy Antichristian work.  
And thy 23 lie] Is one of thy first heads or ground of thy book; where thou says, R.F. said, he was a man wholly free from sin and not subject to any one temptation, such words were not so spoken by me, though to the truth I did witness as I do still, against thy deceit, and such as thou art, neither canst thou produce them, so set down together, in that my book which thou pretends thine answer unto, therefore in that thou hast made a lie thy refuge, and grounds much upon it, but if thy first head, or that ground be a lie, than the rest is but that which the liar hath scraped together to guard it withal, seeking thereby to uphold his deceit, therefore be ashamed that thou shouldest so utter thy folly, to make thyself manifest as thou hast done; But such as are wholly free from sin, are sanctified by Christ and them, and their condition I truly love: 1 Cor. 6.11. Heb. 2.10.11. 1. Pet. 4.1.2. and they that have suffered in the flesh and seized from sin, though they may be tempted, yet if they be not subject to enter into temptations, they are upheld by the power of God, and united to Christ, who though he was tempted in all things like unto us, yet he were not subject to the tempter, neither did he enter into the temptation; And it is no sin to be tempted, but to obey the tempter, and enter into temptation that is a sin, and though Christ was tempted, yet he did not obey the tempter, and therefore did not sin, and such as are united to Christ, and abideth in him, they do not sin as saith the Scriptures 1 Joh. 3.6: then they enter not into temptation, that are so united, and abide with Christ in that true union, but as he is so are they in this present world, as the Scripture witnesseth, 1 Joh. 4.16.17: Rev. 14.3.4.5: and an't thou offended at that, if thou be, it is but to show thy dislike to the work of Christ, which is to take away sin, and thy contradiction to the Scripture, which also witnesseth the same.  
And thy 24 lie] Is one of thy grounds or second heads, by which thou labours to uphold thy deceit, in page the 8 which thou calls the second thing that Farnsworth as thou says affirmed, that is as thou says, when Paul spoke those words, in the seaventh of the Romans, where he cries out of a body of death, and of the warfare he had in himself, and to strengthen thy lies] thou says Farnsworth said he was not then converted: liar art thou not ashamed of such an abominable lie, let the wise hearted search the book written by me, and see if they can in it find such an affirmative: and thou pretends to write thine, in answer unto it; and in page the 22 thou says, these are his principles he saith he owns in his book: oh that a man professing godliness should no more regard what he says, burr it is good that fools utter their sollie, as thou hast done thine thereby to manifest that deceit which long hath lain hid within thee, but the book shall stand a witness against thee; And that lie thou hast laid as a ground to build upon, but the ground being false the building cannot stand, therefore thou art left with thy refuge of lies, and the burden thou must bear who art so acting Antichrists Spirit, and being accustomed to do evil how canst thou do well? be ashamed for ever of thy bundle, or number of lies] which are so prooflesse, and now are back upon thee returned, and in the liars generation are left to remain.  
And thy 25 lie] is in thy 8th page, which thou says is thy answer to that as aforesaid, where thou says thou answered and said O man, mind thy error, what Paul a messenger of the Gospel and so eminent Apostle of Christ and unconverted! here I charge thee with this lie also, for I neither said that Paul at that time were unconverted, nor thou made no such answer then unto me, and co say thou so answered when thou did not as many may wirnesse that is gross deceit and double hypocrisy: therefore Pollard, thou therein hast made thyself manifest by thy lying Spirit to be a wicked liar, a gross deceaver, and a double hypocrite: oh, man! see thy error lies and deceit, and blush, and also be ashamed for ever: thou pretended to write thy book in answer to mine but cannot prove such say therein, nor Hagger to help thee, yet you have bended your tongues like your bows for lies, and made them your refuge but truth sweeps them away or casts them out, turning them upon you, you liars again, and into the liars generation from whence they came, and all that which thou hast scraped together and Haggar to help thee, for the backing of your deceit and to manage your lies I pass over, and come to that which thou calls thy third thing Farnsworth affirmed as thou says, which is thy 26 lie] saying that where john spoke those words, if we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, etc. (saying, he said) john did not here speak of himself, but the people to whom he spoke those words were unconverted.  
That is but like unto the rest of thy lies, but thou canst not prove such a saying in my Book, and thou says, those was my principles which I stood by and owned in my book; and saying so, but cannot prove thy saying therein▪ I pass by the rest of thy stuff which thou hast scraped together to back or strengthen thy lie withal, and leave thee charged with that Lie also, which makes up the number 26.]  
And where thou says thou pleads not for a continuance in sin, thy lying also therein is seen, who art so accustomed to it, and it is hard for thee to leave it.  
And where thou art speaking about trying the Spirits, page 11. Liars hath nothing to do to try them; but thou art a Liar, and hath a number of lies charged upon thee, and therefore thine is tried & known thereby to be a lying, & so an erring spirit: But thou says, you may honestly argue that, If they and they only be the friends of God, that walk in obedience to the Commandments of God, than they must needs be enemies that oppose; but the first is true, thou says: Then it follows from thy own argument, about the trial of Spirits, that thou that opposeth the truth, art the enemy, and the only enemy and no friend; for he commands, That every one that names the Name of Christ, should departed from iniquity, and that they should not lie, etc. 2 Tim. 2.19. Eph. 4.22,23,24,25. but thou art strong in iniquity, and so pleading for it, that such as obeys the commands of God, in departing from it, and thereby comes to be freed from it, and be without it; thou would have such to be enemies that are Gods friends, saying, They have no truth in them (if they be departed from iniquity so as to have no sin in them) and thus thou crosseth the Scriptures, and obeyeth not the light, but acts in darkness and opposeth the truth, and art not subject to the commands of God, who art such a Liar, etc. who departs not from iniquity, but lives in opposition to the truth, and continues in lying, as is here manifest; therefore thy spirit is tried, and thou art found to be the enemy of God; and also according to thy own saying, and self confusion: therefore stop thy mouth, and be silent about speaking of the things of the Spirit of God, by a lying spirit of error and deceit; for darkness speaks in thee, and the Serpent's head who is yet unbruised in thee.  
And where thou art speaking to those thou calls dear friends, saying, Beware lest you be led away with the error of the wicked: Thou art led away with the error of the wicked thyself, who art so given over to lying, as thou hast made thyself manifest; and being guided by a lying spirit, thou art to be denied; but thou says, now is the hour of temptation: for if these be not wicked errors, I know not what is: Yes, thy many lies, which before with the rest that are set down are so) and the Scriptures which thou so much talks of, hath not kept thee for falling into them) but thou would put it off, and say they are those which are laid down to their view, which Farnsworth did stand by to vindicate, if his own testimony may stand.  
Here again I charge thee to be a liar and a false accuser, and that they was not so testified by Farnsworth, as thou hast set them down, thinking thereby to strengthen thy deceit; neither canst thou prove them to be so in his testimony or book, which thou hast written thine in answer unto; and there thou art proved the Liar in that as well as the rest, and therefore thou art left with them charged upon thee, and there they are to remain: clear thyself if thou can; for this book doth not clear thee, but lets thy filthiness more appear, neither doth it at all weaken the book thou pretendest it against, but it stands yet for the truth against thy deceit; as this doth stand to witness against thy lies, which in thine thou hast scraped together or heaped up, to manifest that thou art not builded upon the rock, and therefore thy building cannot stand, who makes lies thy refuge, being set upon the sand, as thy lies and confusion maketh it manifest; for the tree is known by its fruits, as thou art by thine, Matth. 7.15. And where thou sayest to the Reader, that we deny the rule of Trial to try the spirits withal, that is another of thy lies.  
For in thy 28. Lie, page the 14. thou sayest, The rule of trial to try the spirits withal, is thrown away by them.  
And in thy 29 Lie, Thou sayest, it is become of none use to those men, except it be for advantage: take notice of thy Lies, and also of thy own confusion within thy exception (for that which is for a good use and right advantage) is not thrown away, but made use of; but the trial or Tryer spirits is not by us thrown away, though thou say it is, but made use of, according to thy saying in thy self-confutation, and it is both advantageous and profitable for us, and also to try your deceits; withal take notice of that, and take heed how thou utterest thy folly as thou hast done.  
And where thou sayest many poor souls have been misled, as to say that which men call sin doth as highly honour God, as that which men call Prayers, and holy performances, and faith; these things thou hast heard uttered by mouth, and seen in print, and hath, as it were, cast it as a slander upon upon us; and doth accuse us with it, where thou sayest this is their principle; and how doth it open a door of looseness, pag. 14. Such Principles we do deny, and thy slander also, and all that knows our Principles and practice may witness against thee in thy filthy Slanders: And I charge thee in the presence of the Lord, and also Haggar thy partaker, to prove that ever such things were ever spoken or printed by us, or else be ashamed for ever, and own condemnation upon your wicked lies and gross errors, who are so far misled, as to act Antichrists part; making lies your refuge, seeking thereby to hold up your deceir.  
And to thy fourth, That thou says Farnsworth affirmed that Christ had not a visible Church in the world; for thou says they are his principles set down in his book, that the Church was in God the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ is in his books: that he affirmeth, and the Scriptures witnesseth the same, 1 Thessalon. 1.1. 2 Thessalo. 1.1. and that the Church is made of living stones elect and precious, a spiritual house for God to dwell in by the Spirit, and officers and overseers were made by the Holy-Ghost, and he is not visible for the world seethe him not, neither knoweth him and that is in his book; and the Scriptures witnesseth the same, at which thou art offended, 1 Pet. 2.5.6. John 14 17. Ephes. 2.20.21.22. Acts 20.28. And God is a Spirit and his Church is spiritual, and they endured as seeing him who is invisible, which thou appears to be ignorant of, and thou saith to manifest thy darkness and ignorance therein, because Farnsworth, tells of an invisible or spiritual Church he thou says is no member nor officer in that Church because he is a visible man: as much as to say, Paul that eminent Apostle, because he was a visible man (as to the outward body) his visible or bodily absence did exclude his invisible or spiritual presence from the Church; and that is contrary to the Scriptures, and Crosseth his experience, and spiritual doctrine also, who himself said that though he was absent in body, yet he was present in Spirit beholding their order, Col. 2.5. than it was a spiritual order, and rule or government in the Church, and the visible and bodily absence of Paul did not exclude his invisible or spiritual presence, but that thou art blind in the things of God, the Spirit of God, as the Serpent's seed ever was, and (according to that former saying of thine) because Christ was visiblely ascended, far beyond all Heavens, Acts. 1.11. Jesus of Nazareth could not be invisibly persecuted by the contrary Spirits invisible men, etc. And that is cross to the Scriptures, for after Christ was so visiblely ascended, he spoke to Saul that persecuted his seed, and he said Saul, Saul why persecutest thou me: he said Lord who art thou that I persecute? he said I am Jesus of Nazareth, and he were ascended far beyond all Heavens, Acts 9.4.5.  
When he were invisible by a contrary Spirit in a visible man, so persecuted, or his seed in his Saints, and such as were his Church that was chosen out of the world, Joh. 15.18.19: which Church thou hast showed thy ignorance of, and thy blindness in.  
That Farnsworth should say or affirm that all ordinances ceased when Christ ascended and gave the Spirit; was never so spoken by him, neither canst thou find such a saying in that book which thou pretends to write thine in answer unto: therefore thy ground or fifth head being false, so is thy scraped up stuff, and turned under by which thou seeks to make a cover, and thou art also left charged, with that thy 30 Lie]  
And where thou hast gathered many Scriptures in thy book, about the Spirits teaching and Baptism, &c: thou says when thou instanced those Scriptures before, which thou hast set down, thou says Farnsworth said that was not water Baptism: here thou hast lied again, and that is thy 31 Lie] saying thou did before mention those Scriptures when thou did not then mention them, and thou says many can witness it, but than it must be against thee and thy lies as I have done.  
That one Scripture thou didst mention, of Ananias going to Saul, and saying, Arise brother Saul and be Baptised and wash away thy sins: whereupon I asked thee if your water Baptism did or could wash away sins, and thou stood and gave little or no answer therein, as many can witness; And if nothing can wash away sins but the blood of Christ or the water of regeneration, than it must needs be that the Baptism which washeth away sins, is either by one Spirit into one body, 1 Cor. 12.13. and so into Christ, Gal. 3.27: and into the blood or life of the Covenant, or else into the holy unction and water of regeneration, where there is but one faith, one Lord, one God and Father of all them that are borne of the Spirit, and so Baptised into that one Baptism, Eph. 4.4.5.6. But thou couldst not witness that your outward water Baptism did or could wash away sins, than it is not that Baptism which doth: and being confounded in thyself, thou would have gone forth of the doors, but that I took thee by the arm, and stayed thee awhile, and spoke to thee till thou could not tell what to say for thyself, but said the letter (which thou called the written word) and the Spirit were inseparable, and then said, the letter was a History: And I told thee if I should have called it a History, than others would have been ready to have called that blasphemy: and being put to prove thy say thou could not, but to thy shame got from me, and went away, and they of thy own company spoke to thee of it and were grieved to see thy folly so made manifest, as many can witness; but in that I cease, and let the other book witnese in that thing and the rest, further to, and for the truth, against thy deceit.  
And in thy 32 lie] Being so accustomed to it, thou says we wickedly speak against Christ and his ordinances; But wickedness and wicked speaking we deny, who own, honour and dearly love the Lord Jesus Christ and his ordinances: & speaking wickedly against them shall stand for thyself and such liars and false accusers as thou art, and that is thy 32 lie]  
And in thy 33 lie] Thou saith, that when I asked thee, whether thy water Baptism did or could wash away sins, in thy book to make a cover and manifest thy lying Spirit the more, (in that as well as in the rest of thy lies thou hast done) thou says thou told me such words as is expressed in thy 17. page, when there was then no such thing by thee done, and therefore in that thou hast lied of thyself, but lying is thy work, and that Spirit which guides thee is accustomed to it; And in page 19, thou says, we have a spirit of delusion (that is thy 34th lie) coming from Hell and darkness; but cannot prove it; yet that spirit by which thou art taught, of old Antichrist to delude, which hath caused thee to utter these lies, is such a one; and therefore what thou art guilty of, thou would cast upon us; but we deny thy spirit of delusion and lies, and testify against it and thee, and such hellish darkness as thou art possessed withal, that regards not what falsely against us and the truth thou ventest but it toucheth us not; and therefore turns back upon thee again and is to be cast into the bottomless pit from whence it came.  
Lie the 35] that spits out such venom against the ordinances of Jesus Christ: that is thy own, and turns back upon thee again, for Christ Jesus and his ordinances and worship in Spirit, and spiritualI ordination, we honour and own; but spitting of venom comes out of thy breast, take it into thy old bottle, from whence it came.  
And for thy 6th thing or head, is another of thy lies, and makes thy number 36] such words as are there set down, was not set down in my book, which thou pretends to write this in answer unto, therefore the absurdities spoken of and also the lies, is turned back upon thee again, pag. 20. 21. For the Scriptures I own, and that holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Ghost: 2 Pet. 20.21. but liars like thee I deny and against testify, Eph. 5.11. and the Scriptures serves to be a witness against such as profess them in words and walk contrary to them in life and conversation, but liars slanderers and false accusers do so, as thou & Haggar and Griffith and such like doth; and therefore the Scriptures doth witness against you, and your generation and seed of evil doers; And such hath the benefit and comfort of the Scriptures, as are guided by the holy Spirit into the life and power from whence good Scripture words proceeded, yet the letter is not the life, Joh. 5.39.40. and power of God to salvation, but Christ and the Gospel is, which the letter or Scriptures declares and testifies of: Joh. 14.6. 1 Joh. 5.12: Act. 4.12. Hebr. 5.8,9. Rom. 1.16.  
But thou seems as if thou would have a letter God, a letter Christ, a letter Spirit, and a letter power to salvation, or set the letter (or Scripture) up as God and Christ and power of God to salvation, for thou says faith comes by hearing (the Scriptures preached) which thou calls the Gospel; and if by it, thou says, than not without it: and so according to that, no Scripture, no faith, no salvation: for without faith it is impossible to please God (and be saved) but according tothy saying or false doctrine; no Scripture no faith; and so making Scripture the moving cause of men's salvation: for if there can be no saith without the Scripture, than Christ might not be the author of it, neither upon that account could he give faith if the Scripture were wanting, and if there an be no faith without the Scripture, thou would not have Christ to be the author and finisher of it, but the letter, and so sets the Scripture in the room of Christ, saying, take away the Scripture, which thou calls the cause, and then the effect thou says ceaseth: so, no Scripture, no sautation upon thy account, as much as to say the Scripture is the cause of man's salvation, (and not Christ) and rake away the Scripture, the cause and the effect ceaseth; 
mind your Error or Lies herein  Christ cannot give faith nor save without them, and by that means or according to that saying or false doctrine (of Haggars and thine, for he hath backed thee in it) no faith without the Scripture, though Christ be the way to faith and the moving cause of it; and so both the beginning and ending, or author and finisher of it, as the Scripture saith, and saith Christ, without me you can do nothing, than not believe without him, for he is the way to the Father: Joh. 14.6. and so to faith who is both the author and finisher of it: Hebr. 12.2, and here thou hast showed thy ignorance of the Gospel, and moving cause of faith and salvation, and thou hast contradicted the Scriptures and preferred them before Christ; and without them thou would have no salvation, and so would not have Christ to be (a perfect Saviour without them nor to be) perfectly able to save to the uttermost, all those that come unto God by him, though he be as the Scripture witnesseth Hebr 7.27. neither is there any salvation, without him, Act. 4.12. and as he is the author of faith so he is the author of eternal salvation to all that obey him, Hebr. 5.8.9. And thou says, to destroy the ordinances of preaching the Scriptures (for that is thy drift) by which faith comes, must needs tend to destroy faith, thou says, and then please God who can? That is thy saying, but thy design (instead of these men) is weighed, that goes about to give the Scripture all the pre-eminence, and set it up as God and Christ, and no salvation without it, but thou art contradicted by it, who saith also that the Scripture brings to Christ: than it must needs be the ground and cause of faith and salvation if so: but thou hast therein erred, and lied, of Christ and the Scriptures in that thy 37th lie] for Christ and the Scriptures will both contradict thee in thy lies and errors, for Christ brings to understand the Scriptures: Luke 14.32: and saith, without me ye can do nothing: then he is the ground of faith, and knowing God, who giveth an understanding to know him that is true, etc. as the Scripture witnesseth: 1 Joh. .20; and the Spirit revealeth even the deep things of God: but thou says if they can once bring a poor soul into this condition to disowne the Scriptures, when he stands most in need of it, to bring him to Christ, and show him how he ought to walk so as to please God, &c: Here thou hast confirmed thy former saying and strengthened thy deceit with thy lies, and set the letter of the Scripture, in the room of the Spirit, for the Spirit doth guide into all truth, Joh. 14.16. Joh. 16.13. and show things to come, and so how to walk to please God, for they that are guided by the Spirit of God are the Sons of God: Rom. 8.14. etc. and walk in the Spirit, whereby they please God Rom. 8.1. for God hath sent the Spirit of his Son, into the hearts of his Children, Gal. 4.6. to teach and guide them, 1 Joh. 3.1. Rom. 8: and show them how to walk to please him: Gal. 5.22.23.24. &c: which Spirit of God and his teachings thou hast showed thy ignorance [in, and] of, now as well as before, that said the letter (which thou called'st the written word) and the Spirit were inseparable, and said the scripture were a History; and that book which thy lies hath not weakened, stands still with this to witness against thee and thy deceit, and such as thou art.  

the 37. Error or Lie  The Scripture thou says is a perfect rule to walk by: that confirms thy other lies also, page 22. Here thou contradicts the promise and doctrine of Christ: Joh. 14.15.16,17. who promised and gave his Spirit to be a perfect rule to walk by and guide into all truth, Joh, 16,13, Gal. 4.6. Rom. 8. and here thou hast manifested another error, or thy 37 lie]  
Again thou says, the Scriptures is the guide into the way of truth and peace, & so hath put the letter to guide instead of the Spirit, which Spirit Christ calls a guide, to guide into all truth: John 16.13. and so into the way of truth & peace, Joh. 14.20.26. & here thou hast lied of Christ & the Spirit which is the true guide, & hath set the letter of the Scriptures to guide into the way of truth & peace: but they have not guided thee out of error, lying and deceit, nor into the way of truth & peace that art charged here, with thy 37. or 38 lies] besides what followeth after: & therefore thy Spirit is tried & known to be the Spirit of error; who hath made lies thy refuge, which thou art found in, & so out of the way of truth & peace; And where thou says thou hast given them his principles, thou might have said, thou hast laid them down thy own errors, to wit the lies & slanders, which I have left charged upon thee in several particulars.  
And where thou seems to be offended, because I said that thou came on purpose to the meeting at Harleston to cavil: that thou did, as thy fruits and lies made thee manifest, and many may witness the same.  
Secondly, thou says, I say thou told of a visible Church in the world: that is not denied but witnessed unto as it stands in my book.  
Thirdly, thou says, I say in my book that thou said the letter &c the Spirit was inseparable. And that the officers & overseers in that Church which Christ had purchased with his blood, were made by the holy Ghost; I do not deny, but witness unto: Act. 20.28 & thy shuffles, doth not prove what thou would compass by thy reason, to have a temporal or carnal Church & temporal, or carnal officers therein for that which is seen is temporal, but that which is not seen is eternal & they looked not carnally at things which were visible and seen, as thou dost, as they do witness, 2 Cor. 4.17 18. who said, For our light affliction which is but for a moment, worketh for us, a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory, while we look not at the things which are visible, or seen, but at the things which are invisible and not seen: and 2 Cor. 4.17. and 18: for we walk by faith and not by outward and visible sight in the things of the Spirit of God, &c: 1 Cor. 5.7, which are spiritually enjoyed, and the holy Ghost who is invisible dwelleth within; Joh. 14.17. and is invisible where the world seethe him not, to guide into all truth, such as obey and follow the same, and though Paul and the rest (as to the outward) were visible men, yet their knowledge were not after the flesh as thine is, neither did they look carnally at the things of God as thou dost, who argues so carnally, for they knew no man after the flesh, 2 Cor. 5.16.17. and as their knowledge stood in the Spirit and spiritual things about the worship of God, (Joh. 4.23) Phi. 3.3. in the Spirit, so their offices were in the Spirit & overseers made by the holy Ghost, and they preached by the Spirit Act. 2.4. and 2 Cor. 3.6. and prayed with the Spirit, 1 Cor. 14.15 and went forth to preach by the Spirit, in the power of the holy Ghost, Acts 1.8. Act. 2.4. Act. 6.10, Acts 7.54.55. Acts 6.3. and Act. 13.4. Gal. 1.11.12. and 15 16: and the Spirit had the rule and government, in the Church: and the spiritual man, but not the natural, because the things of the Spirit of God are & were spiritually discerned & reveiled, 1 Cor. 2.10. and where thou says Farnsworth, folly is discovered in thy 24 page, instead of his it is thine, that art so ignorant of the work of the spirit, and the hidden man of the heart, and knows not the office of the holy Ghost, that would ascribe his work to the outward man, when such as were endued with it, said that though their outward man did decay, yet their inward man were renewed day by day, and as the worship of God stood in the spirit, so the offices & government in the Church were by the Spirit & spiritual, and he that was spiritual Judged all things, 1 Cor. 12.15. and not he that was natural and carnal as thou art, and would have it, who wants salt to savour withal, and therefore art good for nothing but to be cast out and trodden under, &c: And that saying shall stand thyself: where thou calls me a Child of the Devil, in pag. 24] who thyself art the liar in such a measure, and so of thy Father the Devil: Joh. 8.44. and thou continues doubling thy lies, saying, I should say all ordinances ceased when Christ ascended: that is but one of thy former lies renewed over, who may see plainly (as thou says) from whence thou art sent, and whose errand thou art going on, not of Christ's; who art such a liar, &c: but of Antichrists: and it is plain that thou art of thy Father the Devil, who was a liar from the beginning, and he hath taught thee thy gradations in his Antichristian school, and made thee his Nuntio, or publisher of lies, and in lying he hath taught thee to be cunning and deceitful in the work of that sort, as thy book of lies errors and standers maketh it appear.  
Thou demands of me, where ever any of the words of Christ, or his Apostles are called letter, and to answer thy own demand by thy busy mind, and show thy folly or self confutation in the same, page 25] where thou speaks of the sufficiency of the Ministers of Christ in the new Covenant, thou says God made them able Ministers of the same covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit: there is thy own answer, and words called letter by Christ's Apostles: 2 Cor. 3.6. which serves for thy confutation, and saith Paul, an Apostle of Christ, to the Galatians, Ye see how large a letter, I have written unto you: etc. Gal. 6.11.  
And what are writings but letters? Paul wrote to the Corinthians, but not without letters: 1 Cor. 5.9. and 11. and John wrote not a new commandment; when he wrote with Paper and Ink, such a letter; 2 Epistle of John, 5. and 12 verses, and the writings are Printed and set down in letters: but that the fool must needs utter his folly, in that foolish demand which a wise man would not have done, but it is good that presumptuous proud fools utter their folly and the deceit of their heart, that others who truly fears God may learn to be wise lest they do, as in this filthy standerous book, Thomas Pollard and Henry Hagger hath done.  
And where thou says page 25] thou art sure if Paul and the other Apostles were alive, you would call them Pharises, etc.  
But in that, thy assurance is false and thy imaginations hath misinformed thy mind, and taught thee to lie and speak falsely, in that as well as the rest: to manifest thy number or 41th lie] in thy book of slanders.  
And in thy 26 page] Thou utters more of thy lies saying we reject the holy Commandment and ordinances of Christ; (because we submit not to your will worship) but the holy Commandments and ordinances of Christ we do not refuse nor reject who are subject to his power, and obey his commands, and the truth through the spirit, whereby our souls comes to be purified, as such, that were subjects to Christ, was, 1 Pet. 1.23.23. therefore the slander shall stand for thyself, which is thy 42 lie] And where thou says, O you scorners how long will ye delight in scorning, to call the holy scriptures deaa letter, and carnal as you do: but scorning and delighting in it, that we deny, and therefore thou hast added thy 43 lie] And the Scriptures calls themselves, letter, and speaks of a carnal Commandment, and if thou be offended at that, thou seems to be offended at the penmen and writers of them for calling them so in their writings: Gal. 6.11. 2 Cor. 3.6. who served not in the oldness of the letter, but in the newness of the Spirit, Rom. 7.6. Rom. 2.29. in the new Covenant, which Christ did establish Heb. 10.9. who was made the Saints high Priest, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life: Hebrew 7.16.  
And in thy 44 lie] thou says we speak reproach fully against the Gospel of Christ: but all such as obey the Gospel of Christ, which is to them the power of God to salvation, Rom. 1.16. and are sufferers for it, such do nor reproach it, but are reproached as we are by thee and such like, as the Saints were, but we are called, not only to believe but also to suffer, for his namessake, Philip 1.29. which is our joy in that he hath counted us worthy: And where thou says that I said, thou called the Bible a History, so thou did as many can witness, and how thou would put it off with a lie, saying thou said, what will you call it, a History History? when thou did not so say, except it were after, and there thou hast told thy 45 lie)  
And then thou says, if there be a mystery in the Scripture, there must be a History, and thou goes about to prove a mystery and so a History, to uphold thy deceit withal; but thy covers are too narrow for thee, they will not hid thee, but leaves thee bare: for when thou hast laboured to prove a mystery, in thy conclusion thou finds it in man, for thou says, great is the mystery of godliness Christ in you the hope of glory, citing Col, 1.27: then Christ in man is the mystery, and man is the History in which he is kept according to thy saying, take notice of that: but yet thou art left with thy saying, and hath not yet cleared thyself with thy shuffle, but goes on in lying, saying, dear friends, these men destroys not the ordinances of Christ only, but Gospel order also. But Gospel order we own, and honour the ordinances of Jesus Christ in our souls, and they are kept by that power that preserves them for being destroyed, and therefore thou hast in thy slanders told other 2 lies which makes thy number amount to the sum of 47 lies) to and in thy 27 page)  
And where thou art speaking of Christ's coming to John to be Baptised of him, saying it became them to fulfil all righteousness, etc. If John and Christ fulfilled all righteousness in that administration and dispensation, what was there left behind for you to fulfil in it? But passing by that, I come to thy 48 lie) page the 29. passing by many in the 28 page, saying we go about, to destroy order, and that we will not come into the prophetical office, &c: but these and the rest of thy lies proceeds from the same spirit of thy Father, John. 8.44. who says thou dare be bold to say we are Ministers of Antichrist, &c: so art thou bold to go on in lies as thou hast done, being led by a lying spirit, as the Jews were bold to call the master of the house Belzebub, but it was not so, because a lying spirit led them to say so, neither are we so (as thou says) because thou liar that hath uttered so many lies art by a lying spirit led to say so, and hath no proof for the same, but instead of proving proving what thou hast falsely affirmed, thou goes on boldly to lie, without proof still, saying, without question if Peter were now alive, you would say he were an hypocrite, and one that rested in the letter: but in that (as well as the rest) thy imaginations, hath taught thee lie without question; and so added one more to thy number of lies] And Peter when he went to preach to the Gentiles did not rest in the letter, for the Spirit bade him go, and gave him commission which thou art a stranger unto, and continueth in lying, which both the letter and the Spirit forbids, if thou had any regard unto either thou would not do as thou dost and herein hast done, but the lying Spirit hath possessed thee and thou art without a bit or bridle for thy tongue, and so thy religion must needs be vain; And (being given over to lie) thou asketh where our pity and tenderness is, towards any that are not (as thou says) blackmouthed as you are, to rail against the Scriptures and ordinances as you do, page 29. That stands for thyself where thou hast added 2 lies more which makes thy number 49. lies] which is by us denied and against testified, because we can have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness but rather reprove them: Eph. 5.11.; And to that, where thou says thou art slandered, in saying that Christ had not judgement committed to him whilst he were on the earth, that was so spoken and also pleaded for by thee, as many can witness, and therefore no slander is cast upon thee, but the same that came from thee in that, which is left upon thee the slanderer, there to remain; who would be unburdened, but thy burden thou must bear, that would cast it off, but cannot: and there is added thy 50th lie]  
And the 51 is in page the 32] which shall stand for yourselves that make it your work to slander, falsely accuse and so to lie, who (as thou says) make it (instead of theirs) your work to draw away souls from the word and ordinance of Christ, (in the Spirit, &c) but what will you do at that day (as thou says) when he comes to render vengeance upon the ungodly, and all liars falls accusers and such like that obey not his Gospel, who still continues in thy lying, saying we say we are passed the eternal judgement, and justify ourselves, but cannot prove it, and self justification we deny and own the eternal judgement, as such did Hebr. 6. but saying we are passed; it, that is a wicked lie, whereby the lying Spirit hath taught thee to add 2 more, which makes up thy number 53]  
And where thou says my ignorance is seen, in judging all without making a difference, (which I do not) and that is thy folly and ignorance, to speak so rashly and unadvisedly, and cannot prove thy saying, therefore thou art left charged with the 54 lie]  
And where thou says, thou gives all men to understand that thou ownest not the word of God for thy rule, that shall stand for thee, for liars and false-accusers must needs, disown the word of God for their rule, because it testifies against them and judgeth them, but thou art a liar &c fals-accuser, and charged here with 55 lies] besides what followeth and therefore the word of God is not thy rule, to guide into such deceit, but with it thou art reproved, and with the light of God and his word, art thou liar and fals-accuser judged and to be condemned, and in that saying of thine and denying the word of God for thy rule in condemning all that follow the ordinances or Christ, equally with those that observe traditions of men in the worship of God, as Pope, prelate, and other sprinklers do, I set thy lie aside and turn it into the number of thy 56 lies] and Pope, prelate, and the sprinklers shall stand for thyself, that art in the nature and deceit of that wicked seed, as those are that denies ordinances of Christ in the Spirit, and observe traditions, &c: take notice of that, whose lying Spirit hath led thee to utter thy folly and lay open the wickedness of thy heart, in venting so many of thy mischievous lies and envious slanders, which are turned back upon thee again, for here is no room for them with us: truth casts them out, because it delighteth to be kept pure and clear.  
And where thou says, thou shalt answer briefly to that saying of Paul, Christ sent me not to Baptism but to preach: the weight of thy answer is in thy 2 argument, where thou says, it Paul was fit to be employed in the greater than I am sure this lesser is required. But Paul was employed in the greater, that is to say to preach the Gospel, than Baptism which is the lesser is of him required: that is thy answer and proof, which stands upon thy own witness, where thou says, thou art sure of it, but doth not prove it by that: for if I argue in the contrary it, will overturn that, if such as (be and) were not sent by Christ for to Baptism with outward water, were (and are) not by Christ required so to do, than they that are not sent by Christ for to Baptism with outward water, are not required so to do; but Paul was not sent by Christ for to baptise with outward water, or required so to do: & where is thy self-assurance, once? For Paul hath confessed and said, that Christ sent him not (than required him not) to baptise; but to preach: 1 Cor. 1.17.  
But thy brief answer is not to the ground of the question by me propounded, saying in my other book, where was Paul sent by commission to baptise, and why was there a necessity laid upon him for to preach, and not to baptise, seeing the care of the Church was committed to him, and he knew the whole counsel of God: 1 Cor. 9.16.17.18. 1 Cor. 1.17. Acts 20.28.29.  
And where did he, in declareing the whole Counsel of God, preach up water baptism, as the door by which all must enter; and the foundation upon which all must build, or else no Church fellowship, nor salvation without it? as some water-baptists (and they at Soylby) did ignorantly affirm; but could not prove their saying therein, and yet is to prove, and the question to answer in the ground and true meaning, which thou hast but made a poor shuffle in.  

Error or Lies 58. 59 60.  But to come on to turn thee thy lies back upon thee again in page, the 38. there is thy 58. 59 and 60 lies] where thou says, as the Pharisees were without mercy, so are you: but thy testimony is false therein, and where thou says, you look for justification by the law, and by following the imaginations of an evil heart in you.  
And thy 60 lie] is where thou says, you are now through unbelief departed from the pure way of the Lord; those lies shall stand for thyself, for the pure way of the Lord, which is Christ the true light, we are not departed from, but walk in, Joh. 1.9. Joh. 14.6. Joh. 8.12: And such as say we are departed from the pure way, when we walk in it, they must needs be guided by a lying and an erring Spirits, as thou art: and as we walk and so abide in him, he keepeth us, and teacheth us also to show mercy to the objects of it, and being merciful, we obtain mercy and are blessed, as to such Christ in his doctrine hath said, Mat. 5. verse the 7th] but we are taught also to reprove the deceit and to have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, Eph. 5,11. at which thou and the Serpent's seed are offended, as they were at Christ our example [in mercy and way to the Father] who called them a generation of vipers, and said, how shall you escape the damnation of hell Mat. 23.33] And he who is our peace and way to the Father [to wit, Christ Jesus] is our justification, and sanctification also, for by his blood are we justified and by his life are we saved (Rom. 5.8.9.10,11. 1 Cor. 1.30) and not as thou falsely says: therefore thou art left charged with those three lies that I have here answered, which makes thy number 60)  
And being given over to lie, thou art doubling or trebling them, where thou art slandering and accuseing us falsely, for thou says; As the Pharisees boasted more of themselves, than any other people (that shall stand for yourselves, that stick in the shadows, as they did after the substance was come) but thou says, so are these men boasting of perfection; But, boasting we deny: yet we witness to the truth as before is said, and therefore thou art here charged with another lie, so making thy number 61) and thou says, we boast of perfection, as the book declares: but the book doth not say or declare that we boast of perfection, perfection, and therefore thou hast belied the book as the wise hearted may see, and that shall stand for thy 62 lie)  
And going on to lie, (making it thy work so to do) thou says they make it their whole work to overthrow the rule of the Scripture, and all the ordinances thereof; but we do not as thou says, and therefore thou art left charged with other 2 lies which makes thy number 64) The Rule or ground of the Scriptures, is that from which they did proceed; but the holy Scriptures and ordinances thereof, proceeded from God and his Spirit, and to say that God and his Spirit, and so the rule of the Scriptures, &c: can be overthrown, that is absurdity (or mere blasphemy) and we do not seek to do it, neither is it any part of our work to do as thou says, therefore take notice, and be for ever ashamed of such thy absurdities (or blasphemy) and lies, that makes it thy business to lie and-goes on in it; saying, they throw aside all the Laws and Ordinances of the Lord Jesus, that is but to fill up thy number of lies and makes it amount to 66) and many more which I pass by, which is not here mentioned, but these may serve to let thee see thy folly: and that others may see by what a lying and erring Spirit thou art guided and led, that makes it thy business to lie, and so to sin and serve thy Father the Devil, Joh. 8.44. Rom. 6.16. and see thy portion for thy Father's work: and remember that liars are for the lake, Rev. 21.8. And where thou would raise several lies upon me, from what is written in the beginning of my book, about the worships of God, &c: it is but as the rest of thy lies and deceitful work, and therefore lies having no force in them to weaken the truth, the book shall and doth clear it silly of thee: And this shall be a witness or further testimony against thy lying refuge, which truth sweeps away, or turns back upon thee and thy partakers again: and keeps itself pure and clean, so for to remain.  
Take notice of another trick which the deceit and that lying Spirit hath taught thee, where thou art speaking against the plain and proper language (of thee and thou) which thou says is a proper language to any single person, and afterwards saith it is not binding or to be performed. If the wicked used it as well as the godly, in former ages, what a poor shift is that, for thou says if in all ages we find the Lords people useing this term (and proper language of thee and thou to a single person, etc.) and they only useing of it, than (thou says) it is granted that you err, in that thing (if you do it not): but if the worst of men used it as well as the best of men, than it is not binding, or to be performed, thou says.  
As much as to say; though truth be truth, and right and proper, and aught to be obeyed and walked in, yet because wicked men and enemies to it profess it, as well as the godly and upright (that in obedience to the Lord do practise it) than it is not binding and to be walked in, etc. Oh horrible delusion!  
And as much as to say, because the Devil and his disciples made use of the Scriptures (for their own ends) as well as the godly did, for the truth's defence, yet according to thy argument they are not binding to be walked in, etc. because the Devil and wicked men made use of them; as Christ and his disciples and the best of men did, &c: And so thou says the term thee and thou, is the proper (or true and right) speech to any single person, yet because the Devil and the worst of men used it, as Christ and the best of men did, therefore it is not binding, to be performed and practised (thou says): oh, horrible deceit!  
Though I pass by many of thy lies, yet I cannot but put thee in mind of some more of them, and turn them back upon thee again, in page 29) first thou art Quering and says Quisitively, is not your mercy and pity, turned into bitterness and hatred? &c: here thou shows thou knows not, but art quiering by thy dark mind into the things: then presently after in the same page thou adds 4 lies as thy proof after thou have falsely affirmed the same; which makes thy number of lies (70 or threescore and ten) Thou in thy false affirmative, raised from thy dubious dark quisitive, saith that our mercy and pity is turned into hatred and bitterness, that is one lie] and as appears by your words calling the Church of Christ, Antichrist, that is a third lie & calling Saints deceivers, that is two lies] and thirdly your calling the Gospel letter, that is a fourth lie] and calling thy Ordinances Carnal, that is thy fifth lie) which increaseth thy number, to one more: here thou brings four lies to back thy false affirmative from thy dubious dark qui●…tive before mentioned, and so thou all along hath made lies thy refuge, as in this book appeareth: but where thou hast out of dubiousness and darkness asked the question in saying, is not your mercy, &c: turned into bitterness towards all men, &c: instead of letting us have answered therein, thou affirms falsely in thy slander, or answer to thyself: saying your mercy is turned into bitterness &c: and thy proof for the same is four lies as aforesaid; But we call not the Church of Christ Antichrist as thou hast said, for we call it the body of which Christ is head as the Scripture witnesseth: Eph, 1.22.23: and therefore that lie turns of from us and back upon you again: secondly we call not Saints deceivers, but we call them the beloved of God: 1 Joh. 3.1. and the friends and brethren of Christ; as the Scripture witnesseth even the faithful in Christ Jesus: Eph. 1. Colos. 1. Joh. 17.16.17, Joh. 15.15: and Hebrew 2.11] Thirdly we call not the Gospel letter; but we call it glad tidings: and also the power of God to salvation as the Scripture witnesseth, Rom. 1.15.16: and fourthly, we call not the ordinances of Christ carnal, but spiritual; therefore Hagger and Pollard, and such deceivers, your lies are turned back upon you again and they shall stand for yourselves and such as you are, and being turned back into the liars generation: that they may there remain and tarry with you and the Serpent's seed from whence they came, and so your lies doth not prove our mercy and pity, to be turned into hatred and bitterness, for hatred and bitterness we do deny, but mercy and pity we own, and therefore the hatred and bitterness shall stand for yourselves, and liars such as you are; and where thou says, so by your words, page the 39 we may easily see what your hearts be full of instead of mercy, malice, that stands for yourselves and makes your number of lies 71] and instead of pity persecution, that is 72] and that also stands upon you, for instead of persecuting, we are (for our love and faithfulness to the Lord Jesus) by such as you persecuted, and therefore malice and persecution turns off from us, and runs into your ground, and into the Serpent's seat where it is found; And where thou tells of persecuting with the tongue, saying it is a weapon that strikes deep; that shall stand for thee Pollard, and Hagger, and for liars and fals-accusers like you, who bend your tongues like your bows for lies, to shoot your slanders and arrows of reproaches, at the innocent, and Children of light (which you in scorn call Quakers) and such hands thou says thou shalt suspect would persecute with weapons as thy words implies, page 39] if they had power, out that slander turns off from us, take it in again, and keep it with thee whose heart is seen (and as thou says) ●…led with malice, but there is thy deceit hatched and brought forth out of thy malicious heart, and thy ground of judgement, is false suspicion, who hast made a lie thy proof and grounded it upon deceit, thereby to manifest the malice and wickedness of thy heart, and thy judgement: and slanders being false, turns back upon thee again, from whence they came, with the rest of thy lies, which I do not here name, but those that searches thy book and Haggens may meet with the same, therefore passing by much of thy filthiness and deceit that: it may remain from whence it came, I shall come on after a while to Henry Haggers considerations and Queries, or rather lies, fals-accusations, and wicked slanders, and I shall speak something in answer to them.   

AN Answer in short to Henry Haggers consideration, and Queries as he calls them, with a reproof to his lies and slanders, also: and for joining with the liar and slanderer in his deceitful book, which this is in Answer unto.  
HEnry Hagger, that pretends his Queries to search and try Spirits, and shows his deceiptfullnesse, and forwardness therein, before he had propounded them, he might have answered us those that Pollard hath left: unanswered, and also the Queries that we sent to the baptised people, at Loughborrow side, Earlshilton, and Coventry side, to his Brethren there which they never yet sent us an answer of; though we answered theirs, by or from Fairbrother, that were sent unto us, that so by the answer to them, and those sent in the end of the book to Coventry side, his Spirit might have been a little more manifest and tried, as theirs was that subscribed their late act, with the names of six or seven Elders and brethren in that Coventry law, in which the baptised people said that they denied any to be Ministers of Christ, that preached from an internal light, &c: and so denied the Ministers and ministry of Christ in the new Covenant therein, and shut themselves out as in the answer I shown them, & there error therein.  
And secondly, in that late Coventry law, the baptised people there said that they denied any to be members of Christ, that either went themselves or suffered others to go hear them that preached from internal light, &c: and so shown their darkness and Crossed the Scriptures and ministry of the new Covenant therein: but that was in the same book answered, wherein their Spirit was tried, who in that Coventry act did also, deny liberty in the Churches for any to object in the time of preaching or after, etc.  
And they said also that the secrets of all hearts should be judged at the latter day by the written word, or the letter of the Scripture; so taking the ministry and judgement, from Christ and the Spirit to put upon it the Scripture: but therein their weakness and error was seen, and their spirit was tried; and the written book in answer to those particulars will manifest the same; as did and doth to their shame, in so much that some of them denied or were ashamed; of what therein by them was done though he had subscribed it as the rest did, with his own name: and the Queries about that and the rest, were never answered and sent yet unto us, to manifest the more what therein they had done or brought forth by them. And seeing they have not answered them, let Henry Hagger ask for them all, and return us an answer if he please: But however, Godwilling, I shall to stop his boasting return in short an answer to his, only spareing the labour of setting most of his down, but those that would compare the answers and Queries may take his book and see them, and in this see an answer to them: for the boaster Henry Hagger, in his proud challenge, faith thus much by Henry Hagger and as he says a setvant of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the congregations of the Saints, which a desire of an answer, by any who will or can. But this I say, that liars, slanderers and false accusers, and such as joins and partakes with them, helping Antichrist to carry on his design in such an evil work of falsehood and deceit, and by a number of lies, (70. and odd) makes opposition against the truth; they are no Servants of Jesus; for he doth not employ his in such an evil work, neither are they sanctified, and so of the Congregation of Saints, but enemies to them, and the work of sanctification, etc. Yet such a one is Henry Haggar, who hath joined himself with Pollard, and backed his number of lies, slanders, & false accusations; and therefore he is no Servant of Christ, but of Antichrist; and the Congregations of Saints (are ashamed of him, and denies him and Pollard, and) also denies the works of their hands proceeded from their evil hearts, which long hath lain hid; but now is brought to light, which manifests their Antichristian spirit, in their book of slanders, with the number of lies, as it doth appear, and is left to the view, that others may thereby take warning and fear.  
And further, it is considered and known, that false Apostles were, and are deceitful workers in that work of iniquity, etc. so are liars, slanderers, and false accusers, etc. But such are Thomas Pollard, and Henry Hagger, and deceitful workers, etc. as it is manifest by their book of lies and wicked deceitful mischievous slanders: therefore they are false Apostles, that so acts Antichrists part under a refined subtlety, and are such false accusers, and deceitful workers, 1 Cor. 11.13. etc. Rom. 1.29. etc. 2 Thes. 2.7 etc.  
2. Consideration; I answer, that it is considered and known, that the false Prophets that come to deceive did as you do, preach the words of others, and say, thus faith the Lord, when he never spoke to them, Jer. 23. and they preached the Letter as you do, and their brain imaginations: but knew not the spirit and word that were as a fire and a hammer, Jer. 23.29. etc. which were within in the true Prophets, and were as a fire in the bones, Jer. 20.9. which words within, you being ignorant of, you preach the Letter of the Scripture, and others words, with your brain Imaginations added thereunto, and are not guided by the same spirit from which it did proceed, as your lies maketh it manifest: and therefore you eaten like the false Prophets also, that as thou says, pretended to come in the name of the Lord to preach their lies, as you have done yours; and therefore in that you are considered, and known to be as the false Prophets were, that said, thus saith the Lord, when he never spoke to them.  
And as John Griffith in that Book, called the Gospel-faith, collected into 30 Articles, and subscribed with the names of Thomas Lover, John Foxwell, John Parrot, Francis Smith, John Griffith, who in that Book called (the Baptised Believers Faith, or) a Voice from the word of the Lord etc. hath taken upon him to prophesy lies in the name of the Lord; and the ground of his Prophecy is from the imaginations and corruptions of his own heart, who speaks from that, and from the Letter, and the words of others, and not from the voice of the Lord unto him; and where did any of the true Prophets take upon them to go and prophecy to a people from another's writings, when they were not called by the Lord, and sent so to say by his spirit and word within; for they spoke as they were moved by the Holy Ghost, and that was from the spirit and word within, 2 Pet. 1.21. and the spirit of Christ was within them. 1 Pet. 1.11. and they were not sent by a printed Book to preach and prophesy; but by the Lord God and his spirit, Isay 48.16.17. and therefore they spoke and prophesied truly, that were so taught, called and sent by the Lord God, and his spirit moving in them; but the false Prophets took the words of others without them, and spoke from them a divination of their own brain, as John Griffith hath done: and spoke not from the word and voice of the Lord God, and his spirit within; and therefore they prophesied lies in the name of the Lord, and were reproved for it, etc. as this John Griffith the false Prophet is: that speaks the brain imaginations and divinations of his own heart, from others words, and not from the mouth of the Lord, as the false Prophets did; and therefore the said John Griffith is a false Prophet as such was, which the Lord was against: therefore he is against him that hath prophesied lies in his name as they did, Jer. 23.21. & 30. 31, 32. verses.  
The beginning of John Griffith's false Prophecy, where he prophesieth lies in the name of the Lord; saying, thus saith the Lord to thee, Oh Quaker, thou art fleshly minded: John Griffith, that is thy lying spirit that hath told thee so; and thou that pretends to speak so from the Scriptures without thee, and calls thy saying a word from the voice of the Lord: I charge thee in the presence of the Lord, to show that Scripture, that faith, O Quaker, thou art fleshly minded; or else I charge thee here to be a liar, both of the Scripture, and of the Lord; for such as walk in obedience to the word and spirit of the Lord, are not fleshly and carnally, but spiritually and peaceably minded, Rom. 8.6. Phil. 2.5. 1 Cor. 2.15.16. But they that walk in obedience to the word and spirit of the Lord, and are born again, not of corruptible seed, but incorruptible by the word of God which liveth and abideth for ever, 1 Pet. 1.22.23. and are in Covenant with God, though reproached (by the name of Quakers, etc.) 1 Pet. 4.14. for the name of Christ, etc. are spiritually and peaceably minded, and not as John Griffith hath said: therefore he hath taken upon him to prophesy or publish a lie in the name of the Lord; And the said John Griffith in his second lie and false Prophecy page 2. saith, Oh fleshly minded men, whom the God of this world hath blinded, that is a third lie, because you believe not, that is a fourth lie; for such as walk in the light of the Gospel, 2 Cor. 4.4,5,6,7. and are born of God, and in the faith which purifies the heart, and overcomes the world, as such was, Act 15.9.1 John 5.4.5. etc. they eaten not as John Griffith falsely saith; and these Scriptures and the faith and birth spoken of in them, and the light we also own, who walk in it, and are not as John Griffith saith: therefore he hath prophesied or spoken other three lies, and more also in the name of the Lord, and hath manifest thereby his false Prophecy: and himself to be a false Prophet, as it is considered of, and known.  
And he goes on with his lies, and speaks them in pretence of the name of the Lord, saying (and saith falsely) thus saith the Lord, ye have said it is in vain to serve God, and what Profit is it that we have kept his Ordinances; etc. John Griffith, when didst thou hear us say so? here thou false Prophet, that art without proof for thy lies: I testify unto thee from the witness for God, that the Lord never so said unto thee, nor sent thee to prophesy those lies in his name, neither didst thou ever hear us (and the righteous seed) say as thou falsely hath done; and therefore thou art one that prophecies lies in pretence of the Lord, who never said, that he would fire root and branch of the righteous seed, though reproached by the name of (Nazerens, or) Quakers, etc. as thou says; and so thy lies and false Prophecies hath laid thee open, and made thee manifest to be a false Prophet.  
And we who fear the living God, and serve him, that keep his Ordinances, and walk humbly or mournfully before him, do testify against thy lies and false Prophecies, whom thou and the Serpent's seed revilest and reproachest under the nickname of Quakers; And since we knew God and his word, Oracle, Worship, and Ordinances, never said that it was in vain to serve him, and therefore thou hast added thy fifth lie.  
Neither did we say, that are in Covenant with God, that it was in vain to keep his Ordinances, since they were delivered unto us: God is our witness, which witness is greater than the witness of men. 1 John 5.9.10. etc. therefore in that thou hast prophesied falsely, and added thy sixth lie.)  
Neither did we say, (nor ever declare it to thee) that it was in vain to walk humbly, or mournfully before the Lord, in that, as well as the other, God is our witness before whom we appeal; and to the truth of it his spirit doth witness with ours that obey him, and walk humbly before him, Rom. 8.14,15,16. And therefore John Griffith, thy prophecy is false, and in that thou hast added thy seventh lie, in thy false Prophecy.  
And therefore from the spirit of the Lord, in obedience to the word of the Lord: this do I declare and testify, which shall stand a witness against thee and thy lying, and false Prophecy, wherein thou says, we are spiritually proud, when we are not; for that is by us denied as well as all other pride; and therefore in that thou hast prophesied falsely, and added thereunto thy eighth lie.  
Wherein thou goes on in lying, saying, that we are proud Pharisees and Hypocrites, etc. but hath not so proved it: therefore thou hast added thy ninth lie.  
Thou says that we boast of our light within; but boasting we deny, and all Pharisaicallism and Hypocrisy, and that is thy tenth lie.  
Yet the light we own and follow, else we should deny Christ, who is the light of the world, that lighteth every man that cometh into the world, John 1.9. and such as follow him, as he hath said, are by the light led out of darkness into the light of life, as the Scripture declareth, which we witness with Col. 1.27. John 8.12.  
Thou says in thy false Prophecy, that we neglect the weightier matters of the Law, that is thy eleventh lie.  
And the Law itself: that is thy twelveth lie, p. 3. For righteousness, mercy, and true judgement, etc. is the weighty matters of the Law; for he hath showed it unto us, and therefore walking humbly before him, and doing justly, loving mercy, etc. Mica 6.8. we do not neglect: neither the weightier matters of the Law, nor the Law itself, Rom. 8. for the righreousness of the Law is fulfilled in us, that walk not after darkness and the flesh; but after the spirit and spiritual light, and Law within, which doth condemn unrighteousness and sin, Rom. 8.2,3,4. as the Scripture witnesseth.  
And thou says, amongst the rest of thy lies, that the Scriptures is the Rule of faith and conversation; when Christ and his Spirit is both the way and guide into all truth, John 14.6. John 16.13. and so into faith, Heb. 12.2. and a holy Converstion; for without me, saith he, ye can do nothing, than not believe without him, and he is both the Author and finisher of faith, that calleth also into an holy Conversation; for saith the Apostle, as he that hath called you is holy, so be you holy in all manner of conversation, 1 Pet. 1.13,14,15. Take notice of thy contradiction to Scripture, and thy error in that; who hath thereby added thy thirteenth lie.  
Thou says, we err, not knowing the Scriptures, nor power of God, that shall stand for thyself; which is also thy fourteenth lie.  
For the Scriptures are they that testify of Christ, and that we know, as they also witness of themselves, where Christ saith, search them; but he is the life, and ye will not come to him, that ye might have life, that are such enemies to him, like their example, that were liars and false accusers, like you. And as the Scriptures testify of Christ, John 5.39.40. so do they also testify of the power of God unto salvation, Rom. 1.16. which power we know, and witness unto, and in, with the Scriptures, that testify of it, and therefore thou John Griffith, hath told that fourteenth lie.  
And thou says, we are they that perish, page 3. but such as are kept by the power of God, and are thereby saved, do not perish; which power and salvation (by and in it) through the Lord Jesus we witness, and so do not perish, as thou falsely saith, and therefore thou art charged with that lie, which makes the number fifteen.  
Thou says, that the Scriptures, without faith in Christ; (for thou leaves that out) is able to make a man wise to salvation, and to furnish him thoroughly to every good work, page 3. when it is Christ that doth it, and thou hast belied the Scriptures; for thou hast left out the chief and moving cause, to wit, Christ, and faith in him, and says, the Scriptures are able to do it: when the Apostle tells Tymothy, that the holy Scriptures were able to make him wise to salvation etc. Through faith in Christ Jesus, 2 Tim. 3.15,16,17. and he saith, that Christ is the giver, and so both the Author and finisher of faith, Heb. 12.2. and the Apostle prayed, that the Colossians might be strengthened, and so furnished, according to the working of his glorious power, giving thanks unto the Father, which made them meet to be partakers of the Inheritance of the Saints in light; for they were complete, and furnished in and by Christ, the head of all principality and power; for in him (and not in the letter of the Scripture) dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily, Colos. 1.9.10,11,12. & 29. Col. 2.9.10. and here again take notice, how thou hast lied of the Scripture, and shown thy spirit of error, in this thy sixteenth error or lie.  
Thou ●aith, we are perverters of the word; but that is by us denied, and stands for thyself, who art a wrester, and so a perverter of the Scripture, which thou calls the word, and thou art there taken in thy own snare, where thou hast added thy seventeenth lie.  
And after thou hast given the pre-eminence to the Scripture, so taking it from Christ, and contradicting it therein, Col. 1.18. saying, the Scriptures are the rule of faith, (when Christ is the rule and Author of faith, Heb. 12.2.) and saying, the Scriptures are both the rule of faith; and also, able to make the man of God wise to salvation, and furnish him throughly to every good work, page 3. (without Christ and faith in him, the moving cause, both of faith and salvation etc.) for thou hast left faith in Christ, and that, out; and so there in that page, thou hast been labouring to set the Scripture up in the room of Christ, and belied it also; and to confute and contradict thyself in thy confusion, and self-contradiction: that it may appear, thou hast made it manifest: except thou would make the Scriptures Christ; and Christ the Scriptures: and if thou would do so, that would be contradiction upon contradiction, and more make manifest thy self-confutation.  
In page 12. where thou art writing or speaking to those thou calls Saints: thou therein saith, that Christ is God's treasury; and if Christ be God's treasury, than fullness is not in the letter, or Scripture, but in him; for in him thou also says, (to wit Christ) are hid the treasures of wisdom and knowledge, if in him, than not in the Scriptures, except thou make the Scriptures Christ; and here thy own words serves to be thy own confutation, which is manifest in thy self-contradiction; for thou says, it hath pleased the Father, that in him should all fullness dwell, (to wit Christ) and if all fullness dwell in Christ, than not in the Scripture, take notice of that; and how doth it also cross thy third page, where thou hast manifested thy error.  
And after thou hast confessed, and said, that all fullness dwells in Christ; thou says, where then shall we go for wisdom and knowledge, but to Christ? page 12.  
If all fullness dwell in Christ, and there be not whereto go for true wisdom and knowledge, but to him: than it is he that furnisheth thoroughly to every good work, and also makes wise to salvation; and then how doth it cross thy other say, where thou says, the Scriptures are the rule of faith, and the Scriptures are able to make wise to salvation, and able to furnish thoroughly to every good work; and here thou hast contradicted all that; except thou would have the Scriptures to be Christ, and Christ to be the Scriptures; and then thou again contradicts that▪ for thou saith, life is in the Son; but the Scriptures is not the Son: therefore the life is not in them; for thou says, that Christ is the life of Saints, than the Scripture is not their life, because the Scripture is not the Son; and thou tells those thou calls Saints, if they forsake Christ, they forsake the life, page 12. and then thou goes from the Son, and so from Christ to the letter; and therefore from the life, according to thy own saying in thy confusion, and contradicts those say of thy twelfth page, in page 13. For there again thou art run from Christ to the Letter, and saith, the Scriptures are able to make wise to salvation, and must be the rule in point of faith and conversation, and if they must be so, then by that necessity, thou would not have Christ to be so.  
yea thou says, the Scriptures they will furnish unto every good work: And if they must do it, and will do it, than Christ must not, and doth not, except the Scriptures be Christ, and that is not so; for they do but testify of him▪ Joh. 5.39.40: and thy 13 page doth cross and contradict thy 12: and thy 12 page doth confute thy 3 page: therefore after thou have prophesied many lies take notice how thou have run upon two rocks, even self contradiction and self confutation, and here it is to be observed that it is thee that errs, not knowing the Scripture and power of God, and not the Quakers, as in thy false Prophecy thou did affirm, and there thou hast even split thyself upon such Rocks; [even] self contraction, and self confutation-  
Here take notice of your folly, and remember what you have done, for it is considered and known; That such as say they write and speak from the word of the Lord, and Prophecy falsely, and writes, and so speaks lies and self contradictions, must needs be false Prophets; But john Griffith in that book, called, A Voice from the word of the Lord, he hath so done, therefore john Griffith he is a false Prophet, as it is considered and known, as well as Thomas Pollard, and Henry Hanger, are false Apostles, as before is proved; And by their books of lies and slanders is further against them made manifest; Oh liar, thus saith the Lord, the lake is prepared for thee, and all liars take notice of that and read, Rev. 21.8: to witness here, with me in the same, and thither must the false Prophets and liars be cast as it is written, Rev. 22.15. and Rev. 21.8.27. Rev. 20.10. to be tormented day and night, &c: And thine Henry Hagger (as well as John Griffiths) is considered and you are found to be those, that refuse the light of Christ; and walks after the jmaginations of your own hearts, and not the light within, who despise the light and word of the Lord, that are such liars and false accusers, doing such deceitful works and so are works of iniquity, (under a refined subtlety) which Christ saith he knows not, according to thy saying or third consideration and Math, 7.22.23.  
And you are they that preach and publish lies, (as your number makes it manifest) and not the word of God, for it witnesseth against liars like you, who are such as those in thy 4th consideration, and the deceivers shall stand for yourselves, that are such liars, and therefore deceivers as in thy 5th consideration.  
And where thou in contempt to the light (and so to the truth) thou says Paul did not commit them to the light within them, to the which I answer that lie did commit them to God, & he is light, 1 Joh. 1.5. & was within them, for greater was he that was in them, than he that was in the world, 1 joh. 4.4. 2 Cor. 6.16. and as God who was light, was within them, so was his word nigh them, for the word of faith and so of grace was within; in their hearts, Rom. 10.8. and 1 Joh. 2.14: And Paul committed them to God and the word of his grace, which was able to build them up, and give them an inheritance amongst them that were sanctified, even by the Spirit of their God, 1 Cor. 6.11. and that was also within them, Gal. 4.6. 1 Joh. 3.24. and therefore Paul did commit them to the power of God, and his light and word also within them, for saith he, the word is nigh thee, in thy heart, even the same word of faith, and so of grace, which we preach, and God hath said, that he will dwell in you and walk in you saith Paul to the Corinthians, as in the Scriptures above mentioned; And saith john in his Epistle to the friends of God, let that, saith he, abide in you which ye have heard from the beginning, if that which ye have heard from the beginning, shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son and in the Father, 1 Joh. 2.24, and the light was in them: which thou so much despiseth, so was the holy unction, which thou shows thyself to be ignorant of: 1 Joh. 2.27: that art such an enemy to the light as by thy book doth appear, who art so blind in the things of the Spirit of God, as the Serpent's seed ever were, that maketh lies thy refuge as they do & did.  
To thy 6th, thou says thou observes, that they, that pretend to walk by the light within them, were in the greatest darkness, to the which I answer that they that did but pretend so to do, and did not, they were in darkness as thou art, but such saith Christ as follow me, and so the light in them, Colos. 1.27. they shall not walk in darkness, but have the light of life, Joh. 8.12: and such as did, and now do obey, and so follow the true light that lighteth every man that cometh into the world, Joh. 1.9. they are led into the light of life: and so are called out of darkness into the marvellous light, 1 Pet. 2.7.8.9.  
And in thy 7th, thou says, God hath sent forth his light and truth to guide men to his holy hill, and then saith in the latter end of it, the light is not able to lead unto happiness: see thy confusion, that light, which leads to the holy hill, leads unto happiness, which light is Christ, and thou says after, to confute thyself, that Ghrist the true light: Joh. 1.9. who is in man, Colos. 1.27. is not able to lead into happiness; But therein thy darkness is seen, who would put the letter for the light, and take the authority from Christ, and his Spirit, saying the light in man is not able to lead to happiness; but the Scriptures, which thou calls the word, is able to save your souls, thou says, if you receive it with meekness, citing, Jam. 1.21. and if thou knew the word, that James there speaks of, thou would know it within, to be an engrafted word, not in Paper and Ink: but deviding asunder betwixt Spirit and soul, Heb. 4.12: but thou that says, the light in man (it he obey and follow it) is not able to lead to happiness, thou art a contrary witness and messenger to the former witnesses, and messengers of God, if Christ and his Spirit be light and not darkness, and be in man, then according to thy saying, though Christ and his Spirit, which is light, and not darkness, be in man, yet they are not able to lead out of darkness and into the light of life and true happiness; but Christ saith such as follow him the true light, shall not walk in darkness, but have the light of life, and so true happiness: for he is the author of eternal salvation to all that obey him, Heb. 5.8.9. but so is not the letter though it declare of it, therefore take notice of thy deceit, and be ashamed of it.  
And to thy 8th, the Commandments of God that are pure enlightening the eyes of the understanding, are (pure and) spiritual, and was in them before they proceeded forth, and the same Spirit doth now enlighten our understanding, and the entrance of the word of life that divides betwixt soul and Spirit, give light and understanding, which word is not the letter, though the letter declare of it, yet witnessed unto by it, which word giveth us an understanding, dwelling within us as it did them, that witnessed the same: Heb. 4.12. Rom. 10.8. 1 Joh. 2.14. and 1 joh. 4.4. 1 joh. 5.20: And therefore we being enlightened with it, having an understanding given thereby, we do not speak against the law, and testimony, 1 joh. 3.4. Rom. 8.2.3.4. Rev. 19.10: but according to them, because there is light within us: Isa. 8.20. 2 Cor. 4.6,7, as in thy 8th consederation.  
Consideration the 9th, that the true Prophets did not follow the imaginations of their own hearts, yet the light and Spirit of God with them they did follow, as those people doth that thou in thy 9th seeks to cast thy slander upon, but it turns off from them and stands for thyself who forsakes the light within to follow the imaginations of thy heart which makes thee to accuse falsely, and slander, and so speaks not according to the law and testimony therein, because darkness hath blinded thy mind; And where thou says in thy 10th, that the false Prophets was eminent in that work, and saith it is an evident mark of the false Prophets so to do, (to lie and speak falsely as you do) but not to follow the light as thou would have it, except thou would make false Prophets of the true: for they was eminent in following the light and Spirit of God within, and said, To the law and testimony, if any man speak not according to them, it is because there is no light in him: Then they that spoke and now speak according to the law and testimony, there is light in them, so was there in the true Prophets, and they was eminent in following the light within them, but so did not the false Prophets, thou art to prove that, for such as did not follow the light and Gunsaile of God, they were false Prophets, and false teachers, as thou art, and all liars, slanderers, and false-accusers.  
And to thy 11th: That all those teachers now, that come after God hath sent the light of the Gospel, and his Spirit to guide into all truth such as obey and follow the same, Luke 2.32: joh. 8.12: joh. 16.13. Rom. 8.14: Gal. 4.6: and all people from the light and the teachings of the Spirit, to follow carnal inventions, and despise and undervalue the true light, and spiritual teachings, and stick in Paper and Ink, and are Ministers of their brain-imaginations, from the letter, and are not of the new Covenant, and light and Spirit, 2 Cor. 3.6. 2 Cor. 4.4.5.6.7: they are false Apostles and false teachers that are such liars, slanderers and false-accusers: as Thomas Pollard, Henry Hagger, and john Griffith are; though they may have a form of godliness from the letter, yet denying the light and life or power of godliness in the Spirit they are to be turned away from, and denied.  
Thy Queries and considerations, differs something in the name yet little in the nature, or matter, but to them I shall return this answer, as followeth.  
To thy first that the light which is of the Spirit of God in man which doth convince him of sin, the transgression of the law, 1 Joh. 3.4. if it be obeyed and followed, it will lead (as it doth us) him out of darkness and sin; into the light of life, Joh. 8.12: and so into the life of the law, and not from it, (which is the end of thy Queries for the righteousness of the law is fulfilled in such as walk not after (darkness and the flesh) but after [the light and so after] the Spirit, Rom. 8.3,4. or in short, and to thy Question, in brief, that the light of God in man, doth not lead him, contrary to his law and testmony in the Spirit. But according to it, and so through the law into the Gospel, so that there is no condemnation to them that are in Christ Jesus who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit, Rom. 8.1. and therefore thy lie and slander in thy first Querie turns back upon thee again, and also those in thy second, who art given over to lie and speak falsely as thou hast done.  
And to thy second, such as despise the light of the Spirit and the living truth, and undervalue the light of life, Joh. 8.12: preferring the letter before it, and set the letter above the Spirit, they must needs be in darkness and so the God of this world hath blinded their minds [as he hath done thine, and such liars and false-accusers of the light and the truth] least the light of the glorious Gospel of Christ which is the image of God, should shine unto [you and unto] them, 2 Cor. 4.3.4. But the Scriptures we do not undervalue as thou says, nor despise: these are two of thy lies] neither do we walk in darkness no more than such did that preferred the light of the Gospel above the letter, and were Ministers of the light and Spirit within, and not of the letter; 2 Cor. 3.6: and they preached not themselves but the light and the Lord Jesus as we do, and said God who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, did shine within them, even in their hearts, as it doth in ours, to give us the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ, and this treasure have we in earthen vessels that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us; And they that preached the light, and the Lord Jesus, they had the same light, &c: within them, which thou being in darkness stumbleth at, 2 Cor. 4.5.6,7: Colos. 1.27.28.29.  
3. That true light which is of God, in man, the Scriptures declareth of and according to Psal. 119: 130: where it saith, The entrance of thy words giveth light, which words had entrance, in David before he spoke or writ them: then the words that giveth light or the teachings of the Spirit of God that giveth an understanding is within, as David witnessed, who said, Light was sown for the righteous and gladness for the upright in heart, Psal. 97.11. and the law of his God was within him, even in his heart, Psal. 37.31. and the word were hid in David's heart, Psal. 119.11. which word were as a lamp, and so a light to him, even the word of God in his heart, but thou would have the letter to be the word and the light, and there thy design and also deceit is seen; And in thy 5th, thou asketh what that light, which is in any man, teacheth him more than the Scriptures teacheth him? I answer, that the Scriptures witnesseth with the light and the teachings thereof, yet the light teacheth such as obey it, when they have not the Scriptures or Printed Bible to look on, and teacheth such as obey, if they be not book learned, and teacheth them more than the Scriptures yet hath taught thee, that art given over to lie, as in thy latter part of that Querie also, where thou says thou hast seen an end of all perfection; then an end thou says of that light that these men pretend, &c: The light that we do not pretend only, but witness also, is that light which is without end, and was in the beginning with God, Joh. 1.1.2,3,4,5, which light darkness cannot comprehend, therefore take notice of thy slander and lie, if thou have seen an end of that light, hast thou not seen an end of God, who is light: 1 Joh. 1,5. and also of his work; When thou hast considered of it, acknowledge thy rashness and folly, for the light which is our witness will witness against thee for it, and reprove thee in secret, for acting and speaking so contrary to it, which light is the condemnation of such as hate it: which light doth reprove and forbidden thee for doing evil; which light the Scriptures witnesseth with, as in thy 5th, yet the letter is not the light as thou would therein have it, and though the Scripture be profitable for doctrine for reproof for correction for instruction in righteousness that the man of God may be perfect and thoroughly furnished unto all good works: it is through faith in Christ Jesus: and so through the light, Joh. 1.9. Joh. 8.12. as the first and chief or moving cause: and therefore the light is more than the letter, take notice of that: for the light and Spirit, is the convincer, and guides such as obeyeth it into all truth and showeth things to come, revealing also the deep things of God, so doth not the letter do, that which is the work of the light and Spirit of God, though it declare of it, and witness unto it, john. 16. 1 Cor. 2.9.10.  
Thy sixth is; whether there was not a greater light in the Lord jesus, then ever was in any man else, or ever shall be; and thy seventh is, whether he did not declare it, and make it known by his words and actions, more than ever any man else could do.  
I answer, that jesus was the true light, and is, according to those two Scriptures which thou hast cited, John 1.9. and John. 8.12. And as he is called the light of the world, so did he call them that saw with his light, and were in it, the light of the world also; as in Mat. 5.14. and for manifesting it, more by actions, &c, he said, that it was the Father which was in him, that wrought the works, John 14.10. and he said also, that what he did, some should do, and greater works also, John 14.12. and there was great works done by others, from the same light and power, or working of the Father in them; and for words, there was such spoken, after he had sent them the Holy Ghost, that the adversaries were not able to resist the spirit by which they were spoken, as the Scripture witnesseth; and behold the Tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, Rev.. 21.3. and the Lord God and the Lamb is the light, and the Nations which are saved shall walk in it, Rev. 21.23,24. so the light, according to the manifestation of it, is the form that it was, and as Christ hath said, At that day, ye shall know that I am in my Father, and you in me, and I in you. John 14.20. but thy drift is to set up the letter of the Scripture, instead of the light; and here thou says, in thy 8th, did not the Apostles of our Lord jesus, declare and testify the same things to others, that they hear and say, who shunned not to declare to others the whole Counsel of God: yes, & in that the Apostle John said, that the Message which they had to declare, was the light, 1 John 1.5. which thou seems to be so much offended at; and Paul that Apostle declared and said, that God (which John called light) would dwell and walk in his people, 2 Cor. 6.16. and he also declared of the light, and the glory of God, and the heavenly treasure within, 2 Cor. 4.6,7. and of the life of Christ, to be manifest in mortal flesh, (verse 10. 11.) and and the mystery of Godliness, he said, was great, and also within, Col. 1.27.  
But thou being blind, and ignorant of the things and workings of the light, and the spirit of God; thou would have all without, in the letter of the Scripture, which doth but declare of them; for in the 9th, thou asks, whether you can know the things which Christ and his Apostles did; but by the Scriptures? If thou know not, thou knows not the Father dwelling in thee, that so wrought by his power and spirit in them, John 14.10.11,12. Gal. 1. Col. 1.29. And so if thou be in doubt, and question the thing out of ignorance and darkness: thou shows, that thou knows not the same spirit of Christ within, Gal. 4.6. to bring to remembrance what Christ hath said, John 14.26. which is the guide into all truth, and shows things to come, John 16.13. And being without the life of the spirit of Christ, and of God to rule and guide in thee, Gal. 4.6. Rom. 8.14. which spirit searcheth and revealeth the deep things of God 1 Cor. 2.10. which in the Prophets did also testify before hand of the sufferings of Christ, and doth now witness with them, 1 Pet. 1.11,12. and thou that knows not the spirit to guide thee, and reveal the things of God now, as they did then; thou art not of the spiritual, but carnal minded men, and so knows not the glorious light of the Gospel of Christ, that shineth within, as such did, and do; that witness the power of God to salvation, Rom. 1.16. and the holy unction within, whereby they knew all things, 1 John 2.20. But thou would have the Scripture to be the same which thou queries of and about, in thy tenth and eleventh Queries, and therein thy design is seen, who thyself, that followeth not the light, walks after the dictates, or (evil) sayings of thy own heart, which is (as thou says) deceitful and desperately wicked: yet it is known, and with the light reproved, which thou art offended at.  
And it is no better than folly and madness in thee, and such like that would put the letter of the Scripture for the light and Gospel which is the power of God to salvation: which light thou says, is not sufficient to lead to happiness, etc. And so denies Christ the true light, to be sufficient to lead unto happiness, and denying the true light, thou denies the true guide, that leads into true comfort such as do follow the Counsel of it; and that light which leads the obedient into true comfort, it therefore leads them into true happiness; and such did witness the consolation, and so the happiness within, that said, As the sufferings of Christ did abound in them, so their consolation also abounded by him, 2 Cor. 2.5. and the light which shined in the face of jesus, through the new Covenant, did shine within them; and the glory and heavenly Treasure as well as the light, which the Scripture declareth of therein, was revealed within them; and so the true comfort and comforter was within them, who did experience the sufferings before, Rom. 8.18. John 14.26. 2 Thes. 1.10. 2 Cor. 3.17,18. and 2 Cor. 4.5,6,7.  
But the Letter is not that light, etc. as thou would have it, though it declare of it, etc. which light of the glorious Gospel thou art a stranger unto; for thy dark reason cannot comprehend it, who art in those (and so thy) brain expectations (thou speaks of) and art out of that Covenant which thou out of darkness art quering after; and about; that art such a liar, and false accuser; and with the liars and false accusers, art a partaker, as this Book maketh manifest, which stands a witness against thee and them, etc. Henry Hagger, that refuseth the glorious light of the Gospel of Christ, and would set the Letter up instead of the light, spoken of, or queried about in thy 11th, refusing it to follow, or walk by (as thou says, instead of his) thy own imaginations, or dictates and say of thy evil heart, which is so deceitful, and desperately wicked, the heart thou speaks of in thy Query.  
And now according to thy 12th, such as thou art (being, found out after query or search) that hath so lied and sought as thy Brethren hath done, to set up the letter of the Scripture, instead of the light and spirit, or power of God unto salvation, which is the Gospel of Christ, and refusing, the light within, also; and that which Paul and the Gospel-Ministers witnessed in them, who called it the glorious light of the Gospel of Christ in the face of Jesus, which was in them, and shined within, in their hearts, 2 Cor. 4,4,5,6,7. in which light the Nations that are saved, shall walk, Rev. 21.23,24. which light we choose to walk by and in, as Paul and the faithful in Christ did, giving thanks unto the Father of lights, James 1.17. who of his own will begot us with the word of truth, James 1.18. who hath made us meet to be partakers (of what the Saints doth inherit) of the Inheritance of the Saints in light, Col. 1.12. And so we are required to hold such accursed, as denies Christ within, which Paul preached, and said to the Colossians, great is the mystery of godliness, Christ in you, whom we preach, &c: Col. 1.27.28.29: and such we are to deny as denies the light within, which the Gospel preachers witnessed in them, 2 Cor. 4.6.7. which thou opposeth and stumbleth or art offended at; as the Serpent's seed ever was; But the light and the Spirit of truth we own, to be within us: which is not darkness as thou would have it, but being obeyed, leadeth out of darkness error and deceit into the light of life, joh. 8.12. joh. 16.13: and so into the truth of the Gospel, spoken of in thy last Querie, and that slander of the undervaluing of the words of Christ shall stand for thyself &c: that speaks against and undervalved the inward spiritual and true light which leadeth into true happiness happiness such as follow and obey it, and so it leadeth out of darkness error and deceit into the light of life, though thou liar say it do not, therein thy testimony is false and not true, and thou art found to be a false witness of the light and the truth: and thy testimony is denied, and against testified as is required, Eph. 5.11.  
And thou that would have the words as they are printed in the Bible there, to be Spirit and life, as in thy last Querie. But thou shows by that, that thou art ignorant of the eternal word: and so of the word of life, and knows not the true spiritual life, that would put the letter for the life; And where thou says, how can ye know that the dead shall rise and come to Judgement, but by the Scriptures: page 54.] I answer, even as they knew the things declared of in the Scriptures, by that Spirit of God that revealeth the deep things of God, 1 Cor. 2.10. and also showeth things to come, as the Scripture witnesseth, Joh. 16.13.  
That the dead shall rise and come to Judgement, is one of the deep things of God; And also a thing to come; But the Spirit of God revealeth and searcheth or maketh known the deep things of God, (without the letter, as the letter witnesseth,) which Spirit also showeth things to come, as the Scripture declareth; Therefore the Spirit of God, so revealing and making known even the deep things of God, could make known the day of judgement and things to come, as the Scripture witnesseth, but the blind like thee, sees it not, who stumbles at the light, and knows not the eternal word, not yet the work of the Spirit of God, as thy book of slander maketh manifest.  
Where did any true Prophet or Apostle of the Lord Jesus, go either to prophecy or preach with a printed Bible in their hand? and from that say, Thus saith the Lord etc. And if printing had not of late been invented, what would you have preached here in England, who knows not within you, the eternal life and word of God.  
Therefore they being out of the truth, and false accusers, they must needs be also cut of Gospel-order; And in that thou hast told another lie: and Thomas Pollard, when thou had accused Richard Farnsworth falsely, at the meeting at Harliston, Hugh Read said unto thee, why would thou stand charging things upon him which thou could not prove and Humphyry Beeland, who had been a teacher to the Baptised people, he said to thee Thomas Pollard, Instance any one particular and prove against him, which thou taxeth him withal, &c: but thou than made no answer as to prove any one thing which thou had falsely charged upon him, and accused him withal: and therefore art a false accuser of him and the truth; and thy lies, heads of deceit, and false accusations are witnessed against, by some that were present at the meeting at Harliston that time by name Hugh Reed, Anthony Briklay, Humphrey, Beeland, and John Smith.  
If there want any of thy number of lies, it is but for want of setting them down: for I have as many numbered up in writing out of john Griffiths and thine, as amounts to the number of one hundred fifty and four lies, etc. Which fruits may cause you to blush, if you consider thereof and serve to be a shame to your profession, that are attended with such a company of lies: cover your faces with shame, and learn to amend: bring forth better fruits, even such as are meet for amendment of life, and make not lies your refuge as you have done, for it maketh you manifest that you are not yet come into John's doctrine; and, so instead of fulfilling all righteousness, you are adding one lie to another, and sin unto sin, being fulfilling deceit or filled with all unrighteousness, &c: Rom. 1.28.29.   
THE END.