The SCRIPTURES VINDICATION Against the Scotish Contradictors. By one JOHN STALHAM, and as he saith, Preacher of the Gospel at Edinburgh in Scotland. And the other tiled, A serious review of some Principles of the QUAKERS; wherein error is discovered, and truth defended; By P. E. and written with a pen at Edinburgh, Printed in the year 1655, and a written name, as if it were the Printer called Peter English, but no Printed name; and thus they shuffle, but laid open to their shame, and truth in this short answer is defended and cleared, and their error is discovered, and they ensnared. Who both have manifested their Contradictions both to the Scriptures, and their own writings, and so have not the people which they call Quakers. For the wisdom of this World is foolishness with God, and as it is written, the Lord taketh the wise in their own craftiness: And again, the Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise that they are vain, 1 Cor 3.19, 20. Published by a servant of the Lord Jesus, in Yorkshire in England, known to the world by the name of RICHARD FARNEWORTH. LONDON: Printed for Giles Calvert at the black spread Eagle at the West end of Paul's. 1655. To the honest Godly conscientious READER. READER, If thou would show thy diligence so far, as to take the pains to inquire and get the Books which John Stalham hath quoted in the margin of his Book, and in reading them, and his, and also this, it will let thee see how he hath wronged them, and taken here a word or two, and there a word or two, and mixed his deceit amongst them; but however the books of themselves are clear and clears themselves of his slanders; and this for the simple ones sake have I written, that they may beware of his deceits, and also that they may see and take notice how his imaginations, though the spirit of deceit, hath darkened his understanding, and misinformed his mind, and through the working of the spirit of deceit is his heart given over to lie, slander, and falsely accuse; and much stuff there in his Epistle, which is made use of as a slander, but it stands off from us, and that, with the rest of his lies, slanders, and false accusations, is back upon him returned: And where he saith, Light without Scripture (in his 8 page) is no light to them; It is but as the rest of his say, from that deceitful spirit that guides him; And if Light without Scripture or letter be no Light to them, than he knows not the Light that was before Scripture or letter was, and so is ignorant of Christ the true Light; and it is no marvel that he so much opposeth the truth, and the work of God, that would not have God to be God, and Christ to be Christ▪ without the letter of the Scripture, and if the Scriptures should be lost, he would have no God nor Christ, that would have none without them, to wit the Scriptures: And he saith, Christ teacheth them not to receive salvation, nor the word of life, without the letter of the Scripture; and because one said, he spoke the word of the Lord to them, as he says, and spoke not Scripture, (though he spoke not contrary to Scripture) as in Edward Burroughs Book to Underbarrow, yet they could not receive it, and saith, without Scripture the word of the Lord could not be spoken, or to that effect; here he would limit the spirit of God: And if Samuel and the rest of the Prophets might have spoken nothing to the people but what was in Moses writings before them, they might not many times have spoken the word of the Lord to the people, because they spoke that which Moses had not written; and if Christ and the Apostles might have spoken nothing but what they found written in Moses and the Prophet's writings, they might not have spoken much of what they did speak, besides much which is not recorded, neither in writing, much that they spoke, as the Scriptures witnesseth; and if John in the Revelation: might not have spoken any thing but what was written before, he might not have spoken much of what he did; but God was not to be limited, neither is he now so to be limited as vain men would have him; but he reveals the deep things by his spirit, and teaches by his spirit, and sends forth his messengers by his spirit, and guides by his spirit into all truth, such as obey his Light and follow him, which light is perfect in its least measure, according to the manifestation, and manifests the deceits of the heart, and is the condemnation of those that hate it and act contrary to it, and it the guide out of darkness into the Light of life, to such as follow and obey it, and the spirit and power of God is the saints ground of acting now, as it was both in the Prophets and Apostles, which the Scriptures declares of; and the Lord God, and his spirit sent them to witness his truth; and (not the letter) Isaiah said, The Lord God and his spirit sent him, and that was the ground of his acting, Isa. 48.16, 17. The spirit of Christ which was in the Prophets did teach them, and by it were they acted, and it did signify to them, and testified in them before hand of the sufferings of Christ and the glory that should follow 1 Pet. 10, 11. and Christ gave command to his Disciples before he ascended to wait at Jerusalem till they received power from on high, and then should they witness him to the ends of the earth; and they had the letter before, but the spirit was more sure, and the perfect rule in the Church, Acts 1. John 16 13. Rom. 8.14. And the holy Ghost sent forth workmen, so did not the letter, Acts 13. And the holy Ghost made ever seers in the Church of Christ, so did not the letter; though the letter declare of it, Acts 20.28. and they that preached the Gospel, preached it with the holy Ghost, sent down from heaven, 1 Pet. 1.14. and Christ Jesus was both the Saints ground of acting, and the foundation of the Prophets and Apostles, and not the letter, as they in Scotland affirm; yet the letter declares of it, and contradicts their affirmation, witnessed in Eph. 2.18, 19, 20. etc. and Christ is the true light, and lighteneth every one that comes into the world, and it not natural, as they in Scotland affirm; But the spiritual saving light to all that obey him, as the Scriptures witness, contrary to their affirmitive, witnessed in Joh. 1.9. Joh. 8.12. Heb. 5.8, 9 and the Scriptures in the letter only are not the true ground of the believers faith, as they in Scotland affirm; but Christ is the true ground of faith, as the Scriptures say, contrary to their affirmative, witnessed in Heb. 12.2. and they have faith in God, and are upheld by his power, that abide in the true faith; and the Spirit is not in the letter, nor given by it, as the Scots affirm, but the letter declares of the spirit, and it was before the letter was, and given by the Lord, it is his gift, and not the gift of the letter, yet the letter declares of it, but God is the giver, contrary to their affirmation, witnessed in John 14.16, 17. John 14.26. John 16.13. Acts 2. Gal. 4.6. 1 John 3.24. There it no spirit and life in outward bread and wine, neither is Christ spiritually in it at the institution, as the Papists and Scots affirm; Therefore they contradicts the Scriptures, and the late Act of Abjuration, that so affirm; For Christ it the bread of life, John 6. 〈◊〉 such as eat that bread live in him, and he in them, Ver. 57, 58. A VINDICATION OF THE SCRIPTURES, In Answer to the Scottish Contradictors. I Received a Printed Paper that came out of Scotland into York and Yorkshire in England, published by one John Stalham (and as he calls himself) Preacher of the Gospel at Edinburgh in the said Scotland; but he hath manifested himself, and his subtle and serpentine spirit, by his lies and slanders, for all his glosses and covers, to be a Minister of deceit, and so of Antichrist, as hereafter will more appear, who falsely accuses the people of the Lord, and shows forth a bitter spirit of envy against them and the truth, which doth manifest his deceit, and though he be painted and decked with his notions, implications, and contra distinctions, and gilded, coloured, and borrowed, and formed up imagined expressions; yet with the Light, which is not common reason (as he calls it) but the true Light which discovereth error and deceit, and leads out of darkness into the light of life, John 8.12. such as obey it: with the Light (John. 1.9.) is he seen and known to be one that hates it, and also bears record of himself against Christ, and his Apostles; and therefore he must needs be an antichristian and a deceiver, and so to be denied and holden accursed, Gal. 1.8, 9 For he calls the true Light the light of nature, and the common light of reason, but cannot prove what he hath therein said; Therefore he is a liar, a false accuser; and liars and false accusers are antichristian, so is he; Therefore let him be an Anathema Maranatha, and all such as he is, 1 Cor. 16.22. To that which thou calls touching the Scriptures themselves. John Stalham, Thou calls thy Pamphlet (or Book of lies) The Quakers Contradictions; to the Scriptures, and to that which thou gins with, and calls it, Touching the Scriptures themselves. First thou says, They say the Scriptures are not the word of truth: I answer, That the Scriptures are words that proceeded from the spirit of truth, we do not deny but own, and so they are words of truth; and therefore thy saying is false, and in that thou art charged to be a liar, and false accuser of the truth; but that the Scriptures are the Word, God, and eternal Life, as thou wouldst have them, thou canst not prove, nor all the Magicians to help thee; and that thou wouldst have them to be, and thou art seen to be a liar of them and the truth; and such as witness to the word, and God's power, they witness against thee. And where thou Queries and says, How can the Scriptures be God's witness if not true? I answer, That the spirit of truth in the Prophets were Gods witness, and testified beforehand of the sufferings of Christ, and declared of in the Scriptures by words that proceeded from that spirit of Christ, that in them did signify those things, 1 Pet. 1. And the spirit of Christ, in the Apostles of Christ Gal. 4.6. did carry them forth after they had received power from on high to witness him forth, Acts 1. But the spirit is not in the letter, as thou in thy 22 page hath said, neither is the spirit giby the letter, but by God and Christ, of whom the letter doth declare, being words of truth that proceeded from the spirit of truth, Luke 11. 1 John 13. The letter proceeded from the spirit, but the spirit did not proceed from the letter; and therein thou hast erred, not knowing the spirit nor power of God, declared of in the Scriptures. Thou saith, Another saith the Scripture is not a standing rule, to you who cannot believe; contrary to Luke 16.29. They have Moses and the Prophets for a standing rule, thou says: Here let all the honest hearted judge of thy deceit, who hath perverted that Scripture for thy own ends, Luke 16.29. from it raising a false doctrine; saying, You have Moses and the Prophets for a standing rule, when the ver: saith not so; here I charge thee in the presence of the Lord to be a liar of the Scriptures, and so contradicts them, for if Moses and the Prophets had been left (to all and for ever) for a standing rule, as thou asserts, than Christ and the Apostles might not have been after Moses and the Prophets for following examples, or rules; and therein thou brings the old Covenant to contradict the new, and crosseth that Scripture, where it saith, Be ye followers of God as dear children, Eph. 5.1. And they that follow him in the Gospel, are led by his Spirit, and that is not the letter, though the letter declare of it, Rom. 8.14. etc. For God is that spirit, as saith the Scripture, 2 Cor. 3.17. But we follow God, who are guided by the Spirit, as such did; and that is our guide and rule, to wit, the Spirit of truth, as Christ hath (since he promised it) appointed it, to be the rule and guide into all truth, John 16.13. But thou that would have the letter to be the rule, and Moses and the Prophets only; then thou wouldst not have Christ and the Apostles followed after; and so contradicts the Scripture also, which was spoken after Moses and the Prophets, after the Law, under the Gospel, by a minister of the same, who in his godly exhortation said, Be ye followers of me, even as I am of Christ, 1 Cor. 11.1. And that was not Moses and the Prophets, but Christ and his Apostles there spoken of: Seeing than we are not under the Law, but under Grace, the spirit of Christ is our rule and guide; and even unto this day when Moses is read, the veil is upon their heart, as saith the Scripture, 2 Cor. 3.15. But thou art reading and pleading for Moses to be a standing rule, and so sets up the Law in stead of the Gospel, therefore the veil is upon thy heart; but we witness the glory that exceeds, for if the ministration of condemnation were glorious, much more the ministration of glory exceeds, but thou art ignorant of that; and where thou hast pleaded for Moses and the Prophets to be a standing rule, saying, they have Moses and the Prophets, let them heart them, Luke 16.31. Here thou says the Scriptures are asserted by our Lord to be a more standing rule then Visions and Revelations; thou hast here raised a falls assertion, of the Lord, saying, he asserts it, and the assertion is thine, and not the Lords, therefore thou art a liar and false accuser of the Lord; for he saith in Matthew 11.27. that no man knoweth the Son but the Father, neither knoweth any man the Father save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son (not the Scripture, but the Son) will reveal him; here Revelation is the surer rule of knowing God, witnessed also Luke 10.22. And visions are a way of God making known himself by, as was witnessed after Moses and the Prophets, and thou contradicts the Scriptures, for the Lord spoke to Ananias his messenger in a vision, and gave him commission to go with his message, Acts 9.10, 11. and that was a more sure knowledge to him then the words of Moses and the Prophets, and a rule that stood firmer to him then words of other men: And Paul, he saw in a vision the man named Ananias come unto him, ver: 12. and that was more certain than the words of others, as Moses and the Prophets: And Peter saw in a vision thing; cleared to him, which was not cleared by the writings of Moses and the Prophets, Acts 10.15, 16, 17. and while Peter thought on the vision, the spirit spoke unto him, and gave him commission to go to the Gentiles, ver: 19, 20, etc. but so did not the Scriptures, than the Scriptures are not a more sure or standing rule, than visions and revelations by the spirit of truth are, as thou says, therefore thou art a liar and false accuser therein; for Paul knew Christ by revelation, and received the Gospel by revelation, as he hath certified to the brethren, Ga. 1.11, 12. and when Christ was revealed within him, he went to preach him, Gal. 1.15, 16. and that was a sure rule unto him, and more sure than the Scriptures, for he knew much of the writings of Moses, and the Prophets, and letter of the Scriptures, whilst he were a persecutor, but then he knew not Christ revealed in him, which after he did, and went up to Jerusalem fourteen years after by revelation, Gal. 2. and not by the Scriptures; therefore the Scriptures are not so sure a rule as visions and revelations by the spirit of truth are; and the Apostle knew how sure revelatitions by the spirit of truth were, so he exhorted others to wait for the grace that was to be brought to them at the revelatition of Jesus Christ, 1 Pet. 1.13. and the deep things of God are revealed (not by the letter, but) by the spirit, 1 Cor. 2.10. Therefore Revelations by the spirit of truth are more sure than the Letter; for the righteousness of God is revealed from faith unto faith, as faith the Scripture, Rom. 1. through the Gospel and power of God unto salvation, ver. 16, 17. Thou says that one saith, the Scriptures are other men's words, contrary to 1 Tim. 3.16. the Scripture is given by inspiration; And then by a piece of logic thou wouldst raise a falls accusation against Francis howgil, and makes a false conclusion to wrest the Scriptures to serve thy own turn, but cannot; as for Francis howgil saying the Scriptures are other men's words; thou sets down truth defended, page 6. Let the wise hearted read that Book, and it clears him from thy slander which by thy logic thou wouldst cast upon him, because he says the Scriptures are other men's words, that spoke them freely (and not for set wages, or hundreds a year, etc.) And further I answer, Holy men of God spoke as they were moved, so saith the Scripture, 2 Pet. 1. and it doth not contradict the 1 Tim. 3.16. where it says, the Scriptures are given by inspiration of God, than the Scripture was inspired, and that was by the spirit, and spiritual men spoke forth those words; Therefore they were words spoken by the men of God, and so words from the spirit of truth, spoken by the holy men of God, (other men) that were holy and spoke freely, and not by you that are sinful and pleads for it, and Preaches for hire the words of others, as the false Prophets did; therefore the Lord is against you hireling Priests in Scotland, as he was against such in your nature spoken of in Scripture: Read those Scriptures to be witness against all those Scottish Priests, that Preach for hire, and seeks for the fleece etc. and makes a prey upon the people, and seeks for their gain from their quarter, Jerem. 5.30, 31. Ezek. 34. Micah 3.11. Isa. 56.10, 11.2 Pet. 2. Judas 11. That the Scriptures are the words of other men, and not yours: Read the words of the Preacher, the son of David, King in Israel, Eccl. 1. Read the words also of King Lemuel and he was a man; read the Prophecy that his mother taught him and she was a woman, Prov. 31. The song of songs which is Solomens, and he was a man, Cant. 1. There is the words of Jeremiah the son of Hilkiah, Jer. 1.1. To whom the word of the Lord came in the days of Josiah King of Judah in the 18 year of his Reign; but a Printed Bible did not come unto him; neither did he nor any Prophet or Apostle that thou canst prove ever stand with a Printed Bible in his hand and say, hear the word of the Lord: Then the word of the Lord was declared and spoken without Printed Bibles, and before Printing was invented; But if Printing had not been invented, what would you have Preached by that knows not the word of life, which was before writing or Printing was? And where thou says (they say) you have nothing to try men's Doctrine and spirit by, but the letter, and that your tryer is a chapter or a verse of the Scriptures; no more you Scotish Priests have: for thou says the letter is spirit, or the spirit is in the letter, and given by it; By this thou hast manifested thy Scottish tryer, and as for that saying, to the Law, and to the Testimony, if they speak not according to it, it is because there is no light in them; but we speak according to it, and therefore there is Light in us; For God who commanded the Light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, etc. 2. Cor. 4.6, 7. And where thou accusest James Nayler for saying, the Law of the new Covenant is written in the heart, it is but to manifest thy ignorance of it, and that thou art offended at James for witnessing what the Scriptures do witness, and that the Law of the new Covenant is written in the heart, Jer. 31.31, etc. Heb. 8 10, 11. And where thou says for any to call the written word, which is the letter of the Scripture, carnal is blasphemy; Here again thou hast showed that thou regardest not what thou says, and art ignorant of what the Scripture itself faith concerning the same, which speaketh of a carnal commandment; but that is all one with thy other, that says the spirit is in the letter, and the letter is the word, but cannot with all that thou hast scraped together prove that it is the word which is eternal life; and so the word that was in the beginning with God, and was God, John 1.1. Thou accusest them for saying the saints ground of acting is not the outward Letter, but the Spirit which gave forth the letter; and saith, here they set the word at distance from the spirit, and sets figurative glosses upon the Scriptures; Here thou art blinded and knows not the Saints ground, and art accusing them falsely that witness to it; and says, they set the word at distance from the spirit: The word and spirit cannot be set at (difference nor) distance except God could be divided, and that cannot be, for God is the word, John 1.1. and God is that spirit, 2 Cor 3.17. Therefore the word and the spirit are inseparable, but the Letter is not God, nor the letter is not the spirit; therefore not that word which liveth and abideth for ever, 1 Pet. 1.23. by which word the World was framed, Heb. 11.3. and made, Heb. 1.2. In which word is the life and the Light of men, which the Letter doth declare of, but is not the life and Light of men, neither were all things made by the letter that were made, but by the word they were, John 1.1, 2, 3, etc. This is plain Scripture without figurative gloss; the glosses are thy own, that with thy logic and magic art would make the Scriptures God and Christ, but cannot; and would make them the ground of the Saints actings, when they are not, but the Lord God and his spirit is; for the Lord God and his spirit sent me saith the servant of the Lord, Isa 48. and the Lord teacheth his that he so sends to profit, v. 16, 17. and the manifestation of the spirit is given to profit withal, 1 Cor. 12.7. and saith God, I will pour out of my spirit and your sons and daughters shall prophesy, and such may speak of the things of God: Thy meanings I deny, and the fancy is thy own, and the sure word of Prophecy we witness to, and do not to it say no; therefore in that thou hast further uttered thy lies, and manifested thy deceitful spirit; as in page 7. Thou says, they say there is no Scripture for the Trinity, contrary to John 5.7. which expressly saith, There are three that bear witness in Heaven, the Father the Word and the Spirit, and these three are all one, here is Trinity thou says; here thou hast perverted the Scripture, saying here is Trinity, when it expresseth no such word in that nor any other Scripture as Trinity, but the Father Son and Spirit which are one, that we witness; and as Christ hath said, At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and you in me, and I in you, Joh. 14.20. The Father Son and holy Ghost are one, but it doth not speak of distinct persons three, therefore thou art yet to prove a Trinity: The Holy Ghost is no person, but dwelleth in persons or bodies of Saints, and he that abideth in the doctrine of Christ hath both the Father and the Son, as saith the Scripture in the 2 Epistle of John 9— Concerning the Light, and Christ the way to the Father. That Christ is the way to the Father is set down in Edward Burroughs Book to Vnderbarrow, p. 4. and that the Scriptures witness and do not contradict, John 14.6. but thou hast wrested Edward Burroughs words, and therefore thou art a liar; there is not such a word as [purchased] in that page, and there lieth the weight of thy matter; but that Christ is the true Light that enlighteneth every man that cometh into the World, the Scriptures witness, John 1.9. Therefore if thou say the contrary, the Scriptures thou therein contradicttest, (and not he) take notice of that; and withal that Christ is the Light of the World, and a saving Light to all that obey him as saith the Scriptures; and such as follow him the true Light are by him led out of darkness into the light of life, as he hath said, John 8.12. Heb 5.8, 9 and that word, magnify the Light thou puts in; but if we do and as Mary did, we magnify the Lord (1 John 1.5.) and art thou offended at that? therein thou contradicts the Scripture; where it saith, My soul doth magnify the Lord, Luke 1.26. Luke 2.29, 30, 31, 32. and thou also contradicts thyself, and lies against Christ the true Light, calling him natural, and common, and lies of such as witness Christ, and the Light of his spirit and according to the declaration of the Scriptures: And where thou art offended at George Fox for saying the light of Christ is life, it is but to manifest thy envy against the truth, and thy contradictions to the Scriptures, for the Scripture saith, Christ is the Light, John 1.9. and he is life even the way the truth and the life, John. 14. and such as follow him the true Light are led out of darkness (error and deceit) into the Light of Life, John 8.12. And again thou accusest George Fox for saying the light is the word, but it is but to manifest thy further contradictions to the Scriptures, for the Scripture says God is the Light, John 1.5. and God is the Word, John 1.1, etc. Therefore in that thou hast manifested thy ignorance of the Scriptures, and knows not the Light and the word; for as God is the Light and the Word so also is Christ, John 8.12. Rev. 19.13. and the Father and Son are one, and such as abide in the doctrine of Christ have the Light and the Word of God abiding in them, 1 John 2.12, 13, 14. and they may speak from it that have fellowship with it: And thou says, they would send you to read the Scriptures in the creatures, quoting the Book of parables; That Book shall witness for the truth against thee and thy generation; and also let the wise hearted take notice that he that is in Christ is a new creature, 2 Cor. 5.16, 17. and that they are Epistles written in one another's hearts, seen and read in one another that are such creatures, 2 Cor. 3. And there again thou hast showed thy ignorance of those Epistles, and lied of the truth with thy deceitful spirit, by twisting and winding about; but thou may well lie of us that lies of the Apostle Paul, and wrists not our words only but his also; for where thou speaks his words, where he says, It pleased God by the foolishness of Preaching (and as thou says a Text a Doctrine a Reason an Use out of the Word) to save them that believe; when there is not any such words of his there as Text Doctrine Reason Use to save them that believe; and here thou hast lied of him, and thou wouldst make the Letter a Saviour, for thou calls that the Word; and so thou wouldst have a salvation without Christ (except thou make the letter of the Scripture Christ) and there again thou hast contradicted the Scripture, which calls Christ the alone Saviour, or perfect Saviour, being able to save all that come unto God by him, (not by the Scripture) but by Christ the alone and perfect Saviour of such, Acts 4.11, 12. Heb. 7.25. which the Scripture declareth of; and he that hath the Son hath life, 1 John 5.12. (if he have not the letter) but he that hath not the Son hath not life (though he may have all the Letter:) And where thou says that Edward Burrough calls the common light the corner stone, etc. Thou lies of Edward Burrough, and his Book to Vnderbarrow, p. 7. for there is not such a word as a common Light there, stop thy mouth liar, for thou art taken with the lie in thy mouth, and liars are for the Lake, Rev. 21.8 But the Scripture saith, Christ is the Light, and Christ is the chief corner stone, Act 4.11. 1 Pet. 2.6, 7. and so saith Edward Burrough; therefore he agrees with the Scripture, and his saying (as thou says) is not contrary to Eph. 2 20. but agree therewith; there again thou art taken with another lie in thy mouth, liar be ashamed and blush: And where thou wouldst slander Richard Farneworth for saying, the Light is pure standing out of corruption; thy slander hath no weight nor doth not harm, for God is Light, 1 John 1.5. and he is pure, and discovers corruptions, and hath no union with them; therefore his Light is pure and stands out of them, and what communion hath Light with darkness, as saith the Scripture, 2 Cor. 6.14. And thou brings that Scripture and says, if you beleivers say you have no sin, you deceive yourselves and the truth is not in you, 1 John 1.8. But I say, and so doth the Scripture, that he that abideth in Christ sinneth not, 1 John 3.6. But you Scotchmen abide not in Christ (that thou calls beleivers) who plead for the Devil, and therefore are sinners; and such as commit sin, are of the Devil, take notice of that, 1 John 3.6, 7, 8, 9, 10. but thou commits sin and so art a servant of the Devil; for thou goes on with thy lies and says, James Nayler saith that the common Light of every man (which thou calls natural Light) being followed and obeyed will lead out of the fall; I charge thee here in the presence of the Lord to be a liar of James Nayler and his Book; for the words in it are not as thou says, thou liar and false accuser be ashamed of thy lies; but James Nayler witnesseth with Christ who is the true Light, and such as obey the Light and follow Christ they are led thereby out of the fall and are saved by him and that is not contrary to Scripture but witnessed with it, which thou contradicts, and so sins against Scripture and against Christ that calls him a natural Light: and to manifest thy blindness and ignorance of the Scriptures, thou says, Where is there any Promise in Scripture, of spiritual saving Light, to lead man out of the fall and out of his natural estate? but a threatening thou says there is, etc. I answer, If there were no Promise of spiritual saving Light to lead out of the fall, man might continue in it, and under the curse; but there is Promises of saving Light and saving grace annexed to it, and such as follow and obey the same are saved by it, and led out of the fall; for by grace are we saved through faith, and not of ourselves, it is the gift of God, as saith the Scripture, Eph. 2. Not of works lest any man should boast, Eph. 2.8, 9 That there is promises of saving Light in Scripture; as God hath said, I will give thee for a Covenant of the people, for a Light to the Gentiles, and this Light hath grace annexed, that is a covenanting Light, and salvation to the ends of the earth, the Light of the Gentiles, and the glory of the people Israel, Isa. 42.6, 7. Isa. 49.6. Isa. 60.19, 20. Luke 2.22, 23. Eph. 2. Concerning the Law. To that touching the Law and first Covenant of works, that the Mosaical and levitical Law was under that Covenant of works, and all thy twisting and wresting cannot disprove it; and for thy saying Adam was under a Covenant of works (and the same) thou canst not prove it, nor Peter English to help thee, but manifests your confusion therein; for Peter English in his serious reveiw, saith that God made Adam upright, p. 7. and in a state of perfection; for he saith, Adam was made in a state of perfection without sin; and yet to contradict himself, and show his confusion, in p. 10 he saith, that through covetousness the root of all evil, a breach of the 10 commandedement, he fell (or broke) and transgressing died; see here how Peter English hath befooled himself; first saith he, man was perfect and without sin; then saith he, he was covetous and in the root of all evil, what contradictions is here to himself, and to the Scripture, that saith, before he so fell he knew no evil: and the said Peter English (a Scotchman) saith further to confute himself and the rest with him, that it cannot be said that Adam in a state of innocency was under a covenant of works, p. 9 for where there is no Law there is no transgression, Rom. 4.15. and the Law is not for the righteous but for the rebellions, 1 Tim. 1.9. and so he saith in a sense Nayler spoke true; but Peter English going about to accuse Nayler, and after when he hath cleared him, he confutes himself, saying Adam was not under a covenant of works, as under a Law, and yet saith through a breach of the 10 commandment he broke the covenant, and transgressing of which he died: here he hath comed poorly off, and lied of himself, and of the Scriptures, and of Adam also; for he said, where no Law was there was no trasgression: but Adam had not the Law in which the 10 commandments were given, therefore he did not transgress the 10th and die for that; for it were written (the Law with the 10 commandments) several hundred years after Adam, and not given to him in the Paradise, therefore he was not under that Law and Covenant of works; Liars stop your mouths. Concerning Sinne. That all the children of Light are called to judge them Priests, and such as you that say the children of God are found groaning under the burden of sin all their life time, those are the words, though thou wrist them, (that is warranted and not arroganted) for groaning under sin whilst it is working out, that may be, but to say that the children of God they groan under it all their life time, it contradicts the Scriptures, and the arrogant assertion is thy own, contrary to Rom. 8. etc. 1 John 3. Rev. 14. for thou says Paul all along in Rom. 7. from v. 14. speaks in the name of the regenerate to the end of the chapter, and groans and sighs it out, Oh wretched man that I am, who shall deliver me from this body of death? here though Paul did cry out of the body of death, he did not always groan and sigh as dissemblers [and Scots] do, neither did he do it in the name of all the regenerate, as thou says, but spoke his own condition there: therefore thou hast lied grossly therein, and so art an impudent liar: And Paul did not always groan under that body of sin and Law in his members, but witnessed a redemption from it, for which he thanked God that made him more than a conqueror, and others as well as he, and such did not commit sin, 1 John 3.9. and then not always groaning under, that were delivered from it, 1 John 3.1, 5, 6— And to manifest thy confusion thou says, the children of God from their new birth puts of the body of sin, as to guilt and reigning power, and yet sin easily besets them and presseth down by the remnants of filth (thou says) and that is thy condition; where it so easily besets and presseth down it reigns, but it easily besets and presseth thee and you Scotchmen, down that are in the filth of it; and therefore you let it reign in your mortal bodies, contrary to Rom. 6. and the new birth you are ignorant of, and the hope that purifieth, even as he is pure, as such witnessed that witnessed and witness that birth, and are Sons, 1 John. 3.1, 2, 3— Concerning Justification, and the end of the Righteous and wicked, or unrighteous. They deny that God Justifieth a believing sinner, (thou says.) I answer, That such as are born of God do truly believe, and faith in God purifieth their hearts and giveth them victory over the World, and so frees them from sin 1 John 5. And such beleivers are Justified from sin and ungodliness, and not in sin and ungodliness; for by Christ such as are so born and believe, are Justified from all sins, and such like things, from which they could not be Justified by the Law of Moses; and so Christ is their Justification, who are Sanctified and from sin by him redeemed; which sin thou art pleading for, and so art an unbeleiver, and not redeemed, that says, It cannot be routed out till body and soul part, and faith, then is sin plucked up by the roots; as the root of a wild Figtree rooted in the joints of a stone wall, is rooted our when the wall is taken down; but hath no proof for thy saying but thy policy and that is contrary to Scripture; for it is said, Mark the perfect man, and behold the upright, for the end of that man is peace, Psal. 37.37. But the wicked shall be cut off, and the transgressors shall be destroyed together at their end, Psal. 37.38. And you that plead for sin till your latter end, continueth in wickedness, and so are unregenerated, and the end of the wicked shall be cut off; you that continue in sin to your end, are wicked transgressors, and such shall be cut off & destroyed together; as their works are, so will their end be: But such as are sinners and transgressors to their end their deeds are evil so will their end be, and the wicked and such like shall be turned into hell, Psal. 9.17. and the unclean and unrighteous shall hot inherit the Kingdom of Heaven, ye unrighteous Scots look to it and read 1 Cor. 6 9.10 Rev. 21.27— And for that saying of the Priests of Newcastle that said Peter when he denied Christ was in a state of Justification and that a man denying Christ is in a state of Justification: both thy blindness and theirs is there seen, and that Scripture which thou brings to prove Peter's being in a state of Justification when he denied Christ is Luke 22.33. which speaks no such thing, but of the Descipies enquirery among themselves who it should be that should betray Christ: see how blind thou art, was Judas in a state of Justification when he denied Christ and betrayed him no more than Peter was when Christ called him Satan; but after Peter had repent of his denial of Christ and wept bitterly, upon his return, and after he were united to the Faith, than Christ prayed for him: And where James Nayler in the discovery of the man of sin, page 29 where he asks the Priests of Newcastle; if pleading for sin be a discovering of the man of sin to strengthen the Devil's Kingdom, and plead for an upholding of sin, and seeking to make a cover for thy sins and theirs; Thou wiests James words in thy 12 page and art ignorant also of that which discovers the man of sin, that art making covers for him, and by thy policy thou goest about to make Christ a sinner, but in that thy folly is seen, and contradiction to the Scripture, that saith, He was make unto us; (sin excepted) and such as are in him, are redeemed out of sin, and abiding in him, they sinne not, whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him, 1 Joh. 3.4.5.6. and sin cannot be reconciled to God, nor any such imperfect thing, and that doth not contradict the Scripture, Revel: 21.27. And as for our meaning thou speaks of, thou art without our mind, and so knowest not our meaning, by thy Imagining; therein thou shows a spirit of error; And where thou sayest, they say, he that beleiveth is borne of God without Scripture, and yet witnessed in Scripture is contrary to James. 1.17. where it saith, Of his own will begot he us by the word of Truth; and to Peter, where it says, Being borne again by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever, 1 Pet. 1.22, 23. But if thou was not blind, thou would see that thou Contradicts the Scripture, and not them; that attributes the work of regeneration and the new birth to the Letter, which thou calls the word, and so therein denies God; who begets by his own will, by that word which liveth and abideth for ever; which was in the beginning with God, and was God; And where thou says they say, sin dwelleth not in act where Christ reigneth; that is true; for where Christ reigns, the body is dead to the acts of unrighteousness, because of sin being destroyed, and the Spirit is Life because of righteousness, Living and ruling; and here thou art contradicting the Scriptures, and opposing the work of Christ, which is to take away sin, and such as abides in him sins not, than sin acts not, he that acts sin commits sin, and there Christ reigns not but Antichrist, under whose Dominion thou art, that pleads for him and his work; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not; and he that acteth and doth righteousness is of God, but he that acteth and doth unrighteousness is not of God, as saith the Scripture; And where thou says they say perfection of holiness is not reserved till after death, nothing is added after death; and sets down James nailers book, called, The Discovery of the man of sin, Pag: 28. Let all that reads that book see if there be such words so expressed by James in that Page, and if not, as they are not so set down by him, then let them take notice of thy deceitful spirit; And as thou hast lied of James, who witnesseth purity as the Saints did; so also hast thou lied of the Apostle, and those spoken of in Hebr: 12. and contradicted his words, where thou sets down Hebr: 12.23. saying from that, in contradiction to James, that he contradicts that Scripture, when he witnesseth with it, but thou contradicts it that says, that the Spirits, that is, souls separated (as thou says) from the bodies of Just men made perfect, in holiness: which is at death, or at an Instant when the Spirit is separated from the Body; sin is as the wild figtree thou says, rooted in the Joints of a Stonewall, and when the wall is taken down, the stones cast asunder, body and soul separated, then is sin (thou says) plucked up by the roots, as the roots of a figtree, and not before; Thou subtle Serpent, and Scotch Politician, how hast thou wrested the Scripture? The Apostle saith that the word of the Lord is quick and powerful, (so is not the Letter of the Scripture,) to divide asunder soul and spirit, Joints and Marrow, and is A descerner of the thoughts and Intents of the heart; Heb: 4.12. Here soul and spirit is divided by the Living word, and the Ground of sin shaken at the roots and rooted out of such, before their souls and bodies part asunder; for those that thou speaks of in Heb: 12.22. did not say it should be at an Instant of death, when their bodies and soul parted, that they should be perfected; but they witnessed that then they was come to Mount Zion, and to the City of the Living God, to the Innumerable company of Angels, and to the spirits of Just men made perfect; and in the present Tense they there spoke, and not in the future; and doth it say, they was then parting body and soul asunder, or that sin was rooted in them, as the wild figtree is rooted in the Joints of a stone-wall, and did they say, when the wall is taken down, the stones cast asunder, body and soul parted, then should sin be rooted out, and not before; or then they was in that state of perfection they spoke of; but by this thou hast manifested thy Scottish policy, and Antichristian deceitful Spirit, and to be one that would uphold the Kingdom of the Devil in people, and so art an enemy to Christ, and his work, which is to take away sin here; and to sanctify by his Spirit, 1 Cor: 6.11. 1 Joh: 3, 4, 5. and so art against purity and holiness here; and therefore against the Scripture, which saith, As he that hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation; But thou denies the holy call also, as well as the holy conversation, that pleads for sin, to act, and press down, and make you all your Lift time to sigh it our, and under it groan, but that is one of your Scottish tricks of deceit, take notice of that. And where thou hast showed forth another piece of thy policy and serpentine subtlety, from the words as thou says, in the short Answer, Pag: 1. They are not so set down there, and therefore thy policy hath manifested subtlety, and thy particular lies; But all thy pleading is against purity, yet Christ hath said, Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God, Math: 5.8. then there was and are pure in heart, as Christ said, and they are blessed, but thou sees it not, that art of a corrupt heart, and pleading against Christ and his doctrine, and so accursed; and thy witchcraft and deceit; that Loves not purity in heart, nor the Lord Jesus Christ, and what he hath therein said: And where thou says thou art sure that the least degree of purity makes a soul sensible of continual Impurities mixed therewith, That is thy own condition, confirmed by thy assurance, and so thou Judges others by thy Continual Impurities, and therefore thy Judgement must needs be false, and not true, and that is thy Contradiction to the Scriptures, for such as witnessed the word of God which endureth for ever, and were begotten by it, they had purified their souls through their obedience to the Truth, through the Spirit, which thou denies, and so denies their doctrine, who said, Seeing ye have purified your souls, (have purified in the present Tense) in obeying the Truth, through the Spirit; See that ye Love one another with a pure heart, fervently; but thou art against a pure heart also, and so against the Scripture, 1 Pet: 1.22. And where thou says, one in Answer to M: Eton, P. 14. saith; Did ever Paul deny perfection: Thou in Reply saith, what thinks he or others of that, Phil: 3.12. I Answer, he is so far from denying it, that he pressed hard after it, and said to such as had attained to it, press others on after it, and they did; Heb: 6.1. and such obtained as so pressed after it; Heb: 12.22, 23. And Paul obtained it, and preached wisdom amongst them that were perfect, 1 Cor: 2.6, 7. and said, Finally my Brethren, Farewell, and be perfect, but thou denies it, and so contradicts the Scripture, and crosseth the Apostles doctrine, therefore thou and such are to be holden accursed, Gal: 1.8. Thou says, The question asked of one G: Fox was, Have ye no sin? and his Answer was no; I Answer, If it were, it was not contrary to such as were in the eternal Life, and did abide in Christ; but he is in the Life of Truth, and abides in Christ, and therefore his Answer did not contradict the Scripture in the 1 Joh: 3.6. but agree therewith; and for that of the 1 Joh: 4.16.17. it witnesseth the same, though thou would wrest it, yet thy twist is not sufficient grounds, to overthrow the truth, for it will stand a witness against all Gainsayers like thee, when thou art wearied with making opposition against it; to manifest thy folly as thou hast done. And thou says in Answer to Samuel Eton; Pag: 19 They deny Saints to be always in the warfare; if they do, they deny not the Scripture, but agrees with it; for such as have overcome are more than Conquerors, and thou brings that of Paul in the warfare, to contradict it, saying, (Rom. 7.23.) I see a Law in my members warring &c. but thou brings not his after Experience, where he says, the Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ, hath made me free; Rom: 8. And where he, with the rest in that union with him saith, they are more than Conquerors through him that Loved them, ver: 37 and such as are carnally minded, as thou art, are in death, but such as are spiritually minded are in life and peace; and greater is he that is in them then he that is in the world 1 Joh: 4.4. and such as have overcome the wicked one knows the father, and are strong, because they have overcome, and are in union with him that giveth them victory; and the word of God abideth in them▪ that have so overcome; 1 Joh: 2.13 14. which thou art ignorant of and knowest not that pleads for sin and so for the Devil; therefore his servant thou art expect his reward, for doing his work. Concerning Repentance. They Question that Implieth a denial of Repentance in such as make a trade of sin; take heed and look to thyself, that art so hardened in thy sins and pleads so strongly for them, lest thou be given over to hardness of heart and Repentance be hid from thee as from Esau it was, for we know that the goodness of God leadeth to repentance and the Scripture witnesseth the same with us, therefore we contradict it not, but agree therewith and witness the gift from the Goodness, Rom: 2.4. But take heed that thou harden not thine heart, and treasure up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath, and revelation of the righteous Judgement of God, ver: 5. And where thou says, we disclaim a Godly sorrow, which thou calls remorse▪ there thou hast uttered another lie, but thou art accustomed to it, and it is hard for thee to leave it. Concerning Reading, Sing and Prayer, Baptism and the Lords Suffer etc. Thou would raise a slander, and cast it upon us from some words which thou hast wrested in the Book called the Standard of the Lord; by C: Athinson; Pag: 22. as if we should deny the way and the means that God useth to reveal himself to his people by, and through, but that is but further to manifest thy lying and deceitful Spirit of error and deceit for Christ is the Light, to lead out of error, and deceit such as follow him into the Light of Life Joh: 8.2. And he is the way to the Father and that we own, and none can come to the Father without him and he reveals his secrets by his Spirit, even the deep things of God 1 Cor: 2.10 and no man knows the father but the son, and he to whosoever the son will reveal him; And this doth not contradict the Scriptures but are witnessed by them, Math: 11.27. Luke 10.22. But the Scriptures are not Christ, than they are not the Spirit that reveals the deep things of God; But God hath sent the Spirit of his son into our hearts, whereby we cry, Abba father, Gal: 4.6. and by his Spirit he tcacheth us to profit, 1 Cor: 12.7. and to understand, 1 Joh: 5.20. and teacheth us how to read with an understanding, and how to pray as we ought, Rom: 8.26. 1 Cor: 14.15. and that doth not contradict the 2 Tim: 3.15, nor Rom: 10.17. nor Luke 11.13. nor James 1 6. for we know that faith is Given by the ministry of Christ in the Spirit, and that God giveth us his holy Spirit, 1 John 3: 24. and the wisdom which is pure, peaceable, Gentle, and easy to be entreated, James, 3.17. and the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace, of them that make peace, James 3.18. for which we praise God, and own hearing, reading and prayer, and the teachings of God, according to his promises; Therefore thy slander and accusation harmeth us not; But your brain Imaginations we deny, and sprinkling Infants with water, which thou calls Sacramental water; but canst thou prove it; yet the Baptism by one Spirit we own (1 Cor: 12.12, 13.) into one body, where there is one faith, one Lord, one Baptism, Ephes: 4.4, 5. and such as are baptised into Christ, have put on Christ; and that we witness, as doth the Scripture, which is not Contradiction, Gal: 3.27. But sprinkling Infants is an Invention, and none of Christ's Institution; But thou perverts the Scripture, Act. 2.38, 39 saying, Be baptised every one of you; you and your Children; Here thou art a liar, It doth not Command Children to be baptised with water, neither did they ever so baptise them that thou canst prove, by one plain Scripture, and where thou says that one of them says, The Lords Supper is a carnal Invention; I charge thee in that to be a gross liar, I said that your Imagination was a carnal Invention, but the Lords Supper I own, and witness that he is come in to sup with me, Rev: 3.20. And the bread which we break, it is the communion of the body of Christ, and the Cup which we drink, it is the communion of the blood of Christ; and as Paul said so say I; Let those that are spiritual Judge▪ what is said; but thou canst not prove that Paul broke outward bread and drunk outward wine, with the Corinthians, nor the manner how; and therefore it is thy reason that is so weak; that saith The bread which you break, although it be bread in the nature and substance, yet it is Spirit in the Institution, etc. What blasphemy is this, to say that the Spirit is in the bread, which is natural in the substance, here is a Papistical trick indeed, and thy reason is very weak to carry thee out to utter thy shallowness and emptiness, of the body and blood of Christ; that would make that bread which is natural in the substance, as thou says, the Spirit and Life of Christ and so substantial in the Institution by yond deceivers; oh, Horrible delusion! The Kingdom of God consists not in meat and drink, but righteousness, peace & Joy in the holy Ghost; and in that kingdom wheat bread, and red wine is not soul's food; but the precious blood of Christ, & such as eat him they live on hum and dwells in him, he is my meat and drink and food for my soul to feed on, and for such as are in him John 6. Who is the bread of Life. And where thou sayest we are against public prayer these thou says are their very express words in Answer to Samuel Eton, P: 26. contrary to the order 1 Cor: 14 14. Here thou hast manifested thy deceitful spirit, and wronged the words in that Book by turning them into a wrong sense, by thy filthy mind, to manifest thy mischief against the Truth▪ that is harboured in thy deceitful heart; for the words in that page thou hast cited is that we are against a public prayer which is in the state of the Pharisee, which Christ forbids, and that doth not contradict Scripture, nor the counsel of Christ, but agree therewith, Math: 6.5. but the praying with the Spirit we own, and those are the following words in that book, & agrees with the saying of Christ in Math: 6.6. and with the order of the Spirit, in the 1 Cor: 14. which is to pray with the spirit and the understanding, ver: 15. Therefore thy lies and slanders harms us not; And thou says, we are against all Davids prayers, and prophecies, and singing contrary to Scripture; and citys the Answer to Sam: Eton, P: 26. Let that Book witness for the truth, against thy deceit; singing of Psalms and hymns and spiritual songs we are not against but own; and David's prayers & prophecies; But your Poetry we deny, and teaching people to sing lies in hypocrisy; saying, they are not puffed in mind, when they are puffed in mind, and saying, they have no scornful eye, when they have, and much more of that nature, Be ashamed liar, and give over lying. Concerning Elders, Ministers Maintenance, Immediate calling, and Immediate teaching, etc. Ordaining of Elders thou says was not by man; Quoting the Discovery of the man of sin, by James Nayler, Pag: 38. Let the read that book, and it will witness, & clear him, and the truth declared in it, but this I say, The holy Ghost made Overseers, and so Elders in the Church, and that doth not contradict the Scripture, but agree therewith, Act. 20.28. and the holy Ghost is not such men as you are; and he said, Separate me Barnabas & Saul for the work whereunto I have apppointed them, and they were sent out by the holy Ghost, Act. 13. And he was not taught the Gospel which he preached, of man, but of God, Gal: 1. and so taught immediately, and went, after Christ was revealed in him immediately, to preach the Gospel; And thou says, They say that God sends forth Immediately contrary to Gal: 1. and saith, there Paul speaks of a sending of man, &c but that Chapter may be a sufficient witness against thee, & prove thee to be a liar of them, and of that book of the warning to Vnderbarrow by Edw: Burr: from which thou says they pretend to an Infallible Judgement, & to a calling, not by man but Immediate, as the Prophets and Apostles had; whom God sends, say they, he sends Immediately, and thou says that is contrary to Gal: 1. here let the Scripture be a witness against thee, that he that was Immediately called & sent, doth there witness the same, and as for pretences, we do not pretend to be Immediately called and sent, but we witness that we are, and so witness with him that thou accusest; and all thy Mediate calls & sendings will not prove thee to be as Paul & Timothy was, that had the gift within him, and the testimony by the holy Ghost, as they had, And for Rich: Farneworth, in that Book called, Light risen out of darkness, P: 16. saying, The Apostle had a free spirit, and was chargeable to no man, but preached freely, he witnesseth the same, and said also that he Coveted no man's silver nor gold, nor apparel, but preached the Gospel freely, & his hands ministered to his necessities, That is truth, and will stand as a witness against all proud, Covetous, self-seeking hireling Priests in Scotland & elsewhere; and at the Truth which witnesses against your deceit thou art offended: And where thou says we pretend to be Immediately taught: we do not pretend so to be, as I said before, but we witness that we are so taught, & according to the promise of the Lord; And thou that art not taught of him, shows that thou speaks a vision of thy own heart & not from the Mouth of the Lord; and for the true Prophets studying the word, that is thy Imagination, and contrary to Scripture, for no prophecy of the Scripture came in old time by the will of man, (than not studied) but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the holy Ghost, and the Scripture is of no private Interpretation; but thou that denies immediate teachings and saith the spirit is in the letter & given by it; thou may well accuse us falsely that so lies against God, & his Spirit, to manifest to all the children of Light that thou art ignorant of him and never was called nor sent by him; but ran, as the false Prophets did, and so doth not profit the people at all, Jere: 23 Chapter. Concerning Questions. And as for Questions; The Novices shall stand for your scorners and deceivers, who are puffed up in Pride and Conceits; And where thou says, They deny, or say Questions are of the Devil; such Questions as are of the Devil we deny; But we own Questions in their place, and therefore thou hast cast that out as a slander, but it is turned bacl upon thee again, receive it into thy old bottle from whence it came. To that of thine concerning Civil honour, etc. Civility and honour we own, and knows to whom honour is due, & to whom it is not; for if I honour a proud man for his pride, I dishonour God in so doing for pride is one of the abominations and if I honour a covetous man and an oppressor for his covetousness and oppression I should offend God in so doing or if I honour the Serpent and his seed; But all men that are joined to the Lord, and walk in union with him, and his seed, I honour & love, and this I speak in sincerity; and yet besides all this, I can love my enemies: But to follow foolish idle fancies, to worship men with cap and knee, and flatteries, as the Serpents feed do, and which thou pleads for, we do that deny, & against it testify, & how can ye believe that seeks honour one of another, & seeks not the honour that cometh of God only, Joh: 5.44. and what the Scriptures do allow, we do know, without thy ranking together, but where doth the Scripture say, put off your hats, and flatter with your tongues, as proud flesh, and deceit, and such as thou dost; or where doth it say, respect the rich, and disrespect the poor: Are you not partial, and of them that have men's persons in admiration, because of advantage, & have respect to persons for selfe-ends, and so are Infidels and out of the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ which is not with such respect of persons, for selfe-ends, and carnal considerations. Concerning Oaths. And where thou says, They take up the words of Christ, Math: 5.34. Swear not at all; as they do other Scriptures, against his meaning, as if they did absolutely exhibit all oaths, before a Magistrate whereas (thou says) he forbids oaths only by creatures, heaven and earth a man's head, &c The same meaning thou says hath James; Thou says, Christ doth not forbid all oaths (but by creatures only, here thou art a liar of Christ, and his words bears testimony against thee for he doth not forbid swearing by creatures only, but he forbids swearing by all things else, whatsoever, for he saith, Swear not at all, neither by heaven, for it is God's Throne, nor by earth, for it is his footstool; (and he that swears not by heaven must not swear by what is contained in it, & he that swears not by earth, must not swear by what is contained in it) but Christ forbids swearing by heaven and earth, and so by things contained in them; and likewise the Apostle James says Swear not at all, and if a man must not swear at all, than he must not swear by a book or any other thing; And though thou plead against the doctrine of Christ; and saith, he doth not forbid all oaths, but by creatures only, yet to confute thyself and manifest thy contradictions thou says he forbids not swearing by creatures only but all oaths, and here out of confusion thou hast confessed to the Truth after thou hadst contradicted it; And if thou had not made swearing null and void by thy words, in confessing that all oaths are forbidden, The very express words of Scripture would have been a witness clearly in the second place against thee, James 5.12. And as for this saying, we take the words of Christ contrary to his meaning; therein thou hast also in that cleared us, and contradicted thyself; for we take his words according to his mind, and so denies oaths, & abides in his doctrine; But the Lord hath suffered thee to lay open thy folly, that by thy words thou mayest be judged, & known to be in confusion, & self contradiction, and so Babylonish; Take heed of uttering thy folly as thou hast done. Self Contradictions. And where thou says, they deny the Letter of the Scriptures to be Scripture, (that is one of thy lies) and yet thou says they stick to the Letter of the Scripture, Mat. 23.8, 10. which saith, Be not called Masters; here thou hast cleared them, and contradicted thyself again; but thou art offended that they witness against thy deceit, and cuts of thy Mastership, by thy own rule, though thou wouldst cover it over, yet thy covers are seen and thou art left bare: And thou says they say, he that believeth hath the witness in himself, and if they say so, the Scripture saith the same, 1 John 5.10. herein they do not deny nor cross the Scriptures: Acknowledge thy lies, error and confusion, and upon them own thy condemnation; for after thou hast said that they should say, They deny the Letter of the Scripture to be Scripture, to confute thyself and clear them in p. 21 thou says that they say, the Scriptures they own, to be true in themselves, as they were given forth by the spirit of truth, which ruled in them that gave them forth, and for proof sets down, Light risen out of darkness by Richard Farneworth p. 13. here both thy own witness and that Book of Richard Farneworths doth witness against thee: And thus thou hast cleared them from the slander that thou sought to cast upon them, and art under the guilt, and the pit which for others thou diggedst, thou are fallen in thyself, and catcht in thy own snare and craftiness, take notice of that, & see how thou hast contradicted thyself: And where thou says one of them saith, you are ignorant of the life of the Scriptures that are ignorant of the Letter, herein thou hast manifested the same, therefore take thou the shame; for the life from whence the Scriptures proceeded is not the Letter, yet the Letter doth declare of it; and such as thou art, that had the Letter but were ignorant of the Life, Christ said, Search the Scriptures, in them you think you have eternal life, they testify of me, but saith he, Ye will not come to me that ye might have life, John 5. 39, 40. And again saith he, I am the Way the Truth and the Life, Joh. 14.6. And he that hath the Son hath Life, but the Son is not the Letter neither is the Letter the Son, yet the Letter declares of him. Concerning the new Birth, and the word in the heart. He that believeth, they say, is born of God: I answer, so saith the Scripture, 1 John 5. and that the word of Faith is nigh in the heart▪ is witnessed Rom. 10.8. and he that believes and is born of God knows the seed of God within him, as saith the Scripture. 1 John 3.9. but he is not born of the Letter as thou wouldst have him, yet he is begotten by the immortal word, which endureth for ever, which the Letter declares of and that doth not contradict the Scripture: Therefore where thou twines about to raise a lie of them, saying they say and unsay, that is thy own, as before is proved; for thou art he that says and unsayes; and where thou says take the meaning of their words; that hast not the same mind, knows not the meaning, but wrists them, as thou perverts the Scriptures, and so raiseth lies by thy imaginations; to manifest also thy contradictions; for thou says, they say and say truly, (than they lie not) neither do they say and unsay; and thou says they say truly because the Scripture saith so, than they agree with the Scripture, being of God and speaking truly, 1 John 4.4, 5, 6. and they that are of God hear his word, than they cross not the Scripture, neither do they say and unsay if they say truly (and as thou also say,) But they say truly, therefore they do not say and unsay, and so thou art taken with the lie again, and clears them thyself; and where thou says they deny that in John 1.9. to be a natural Light, If we do, we have warrant for it, for it is the Light supernatural, John 8.12. and if one of them did say he lived in a natural condition before his conversion, is that such a strange thing, such as were witnesses for God, as the Apostles and others had been natural before they were spiritual, and when it pleased God to reveal his Son in them, Gal. 1. he also commanded the Light to shine out of darkness, to give them the knowledge of the glory of God, in the face of Jesus, and they had the heavenly treasure manifested in earthen vessels, 2 Cor. 4.6, 7. and if it had not been there in a mystery, Col. 1. 27. how could it in them have been so after manifested (in them,) but that thou art mindful to cavil on purpose against the work of God, to show forth the envy of thy heart against the break forth of Light, whereby your deeds of darkness are discovered, and against testified: And where thou says they magnify the Light and the Law written in the heart, to judge and condemn sin; then thou says, the day of Judgement is come: I answer, Where Judgement is brought forth into victory, sin is condemned in the flesh, and there is no condemnation to them that are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh but after the spirit, and such have boldness in the day of Judgement; for as some men's deeds goes before hand to Judgement others they come after, and therefore a day of Judgement is to come, and that thou and the wicked will know to be a day of torment (though the righteous may rejoice in it:) Again thou says, They affirm that every man in his first estate may fee himse; fe to be natural, but not able to judge of the things of God, citing particulars concerning the Law by John Cam, let that book be a witness to the truth, against thy ignorance and sottishness that sets thy corruptions and pleads for them; the light which doth discover the natural corruptions, is not not natural, as thou says, but it is spiritual, and such as love it bring their deeds to be tried by it, and with it the deceits is Judged, and such as dwell in the Light that Judges in the particular, where it rules them, and they are united to it, may with it Judge and discern betwixt truth and error; but such as with the Light have the deeds of darkness discovered, and hates the Light, the Light is their condemnation, as it is thine, and they that are in union with corruptions, as thou art, they are not able to Judge of the things of God, but err in judgement that judgeth with evil thoughts, as thou dost, and hast done, therefore judgements is to thy head and crown of deceit, pride and vain glory: thou says one of them says, the least degree of Light manifested in the creature is perfect in its measure and in its self, few words, by James Nayler, let that book also witness against thy subtlety, which is a witness against thy generation, and thou goes on & says, if the Light be perfect both in its measure and in its self, than it is perfect every way; thou hast here confessed, that if the Light be perfect in its measure and in its self, than it is perfect every way; but thy imaginations cannot find out the highest degree, that are not subject to the lowest, but acts contrary to it, and so to be condemned by it; for it is perfect, both in respect of its truth, and sincerity, power and authority, and condemns the haters and resisters of it; but guides and leads such as love and obey it, into the life and power, that they are able to comprehend with all Saints what is the height and depth and length and breadth of the love of God, and they are in unity the highest and lowest in their measures and degrees, according to the working of the divine power of God, who worketh according to the good pleasure of his will, and he that hath his sins covered is blessed; but thy meaning is denied, and no other Christ do we own, but Christ which is the same yesterday, to day, and for ever, who doth perfect them that he sanctifies; and the righteousness of Christ is our righteousness, who are saved from our sins by him, and we witness him to be the alone Saviour of all that obey him; and perfectly able to save to the uttermost all those that come unto God by him; But all thy scraped up stuff, & thy twist and wind we deny; who saith, the spirit is in the letter, and the spirit is given by the letter; and saith, The true Light, to wit, Christ, that lighteth every man that cometh into the world with his light; (which thou says is natural and common, and saith, that no man could know that he hath the witness in himself, but by the Scriptures, and so thou would have the Spirit to be bought & sold, if it were in the Letter, & to be given by it; And thou would have a letter-Saviour, if the letter could give the spirit & eternal life; And thou would have a letter-fulnesse, and no witness of God without the letter, and if the letter should be lost, the fullness and the witness would be lost, and so have God to be without witnesses, and his people without supply and strength, according to thy account; for thou says, that none could know that he that beleiveth hath the witness in himself, but by the Scriptures; & here thou sets the Scripture in the room of God, and of Christ, & gives all the pre-eminence to the letter of the Scripture, and not to Christ, and that is contrary to the Scriptures; for he (to wit, Christ) is before all things, and by him all things consist, and he is the head of the body the Church, who is the beginning and first borne from the dead, that in all things he might have the pre-eminence, for in him the fullness dwells, than not in the Letter, yet the Letter declares of it; Colos: 1.17, 18, 19 Concerning Quaking & trembling, and Growth in Grace, etc. Thou says they profess Quaking and trembling after the manner of Moses, Habbakuck, David, Paul, & other, and yet are some of them the most daring creatures that ever (thou says) thou heard speak, or observed to put pen to paper, & will stand in an evil cause before Magistraces, without Quaking or fear, setting down Rich: Farnworth, Reply 2.5. I Answer, The same power that made Moses, Habbacuck, David, Paul, and the rest to Quake, shake and tremble, the same power we witness, and working out our salvation with fear and trembling, God working in us, to will, and to do also, after his own good pleasure, and this is no contradiction to Scriptures, but thou that speaks against the power of God, that worketh effectually in his people, as it did in them, that witnessed Quaking & trembling; & denies trembling and Quaking, that proceeds from the power of God witnessed of in Scripture, thou therein contradicts the Scripture; and for that saying, or fallacy of thine, where thou hast shot out thy sting in thy tail saying, we will stand in an Evil cause before Magistrates without Quaking or fear; herein thou art taught thy gradations methodically in old Antichrists school to lie, slander, accuse falsely and jeer, and cannot prove what thou hast said; stop thy mouth deceiver, and take in thy slander again; and as for being bold to witness the Truth, against deceit, that doth sore offend thee, and such Scotch deceivers, & all deceivers, such as thou art; but the Lord maketh the righteous as bold as Lions; that he teacheth to profit, and to grow from grace to grace, to set forth his praise, glory be to him for ever; and where thou says they say they witness the Saint's Growth & the time of pressing on to perfection, art thou offended at that; They that witness the same do not therein cross nor contradict the Scripture; And where thou says they own the fruits of the Spirit, art thou offended also at that, and doth the old Serpent teach thee to lie against the Spirit with the fruits of it & them that are guided by it Rom: 8.14. & Gal: 5 1 Joh: 3. and falsely accuse them saying they walk in the most manifest fruits of the flesh; in that all that fears God, & knows their godly conversation may witness against thee; & herein thou hast manifested thy spirit of error & deceit & to be one that regards not what thou says, (& as for scoffing at Scottish Priests or others that we deny but your raising motives trials, points, reasons, and uses, out of other men's words, and speaking a divination of your own brain, for your own ends, by plain Scripture you cannot it justify; therefore against you & such deceivers as profess Scriptures to be your rule, and act contrary to them, we declare & against you testify and as for your forms of deceit we deny but a form of sound words the Scripture doth justify, being spoken by the Spirit of truth, which we own: and now the time is come that deceivers & such as you are cannot endure sound doctrine, but utters your folly, to make yourselves manifest; & what generation you are of, even of him, whose coming is after the working of Satan, with all deceivable of unrighteousness in them that perish, 2 Thes: 2. 2 Pet: 2. Concerning Ordinances, Instructing of Children, and the Resurrection. Praying in families (thou says) they say they own, with reading and instructing of Children and bringing them up in the fear of the Lord, and teaching according to the Apostles doctrine proved by a short Answer to 7 Priests P: 19 which thou hast cited, and art thou offended at this; set thy conceivings, that ariseth out of thy dark mind aside, and thy vain Imaginations and close to the Truth, and stand not up to oppose it, wilfully, lest thou be found one of those that sins wilfully after grace received, to whom there is no more sacrifice, for sin but a fearful looking for of Judgement & fiery Indignation of the Lord which shall devour the Adversaries; and where thou says they pretend to own all that is Gods, we do own that which is God's free love & mercy to us and all that is Gods, as Baptism the Lords Supper▪ Church-fellowship, Sabbath: The flesh of Christ & the resurrection and all that we own, and what thou hast cited out of the book of James nailers, called Spiritual wickedness in heavenly places, or an answer to a book entitled, Freedom of Religious Worship, or the Jubilee of Ordinances set forth; Let the read that book to further witness for the Truth, on our behalf, & to be a witness against their deceit; & such as would falsely slander and reproach us and the Truth; and where thou says, there must be no Laws concerning Religion; yet says, they admonish Rulers to see that their Laws be according to that in the Conscience; of every man; & then thou says after thou hast wrested their words, by this it seems there is no Religion in the Conscience, or else why should there not be Laws according to religion aswel as according to the Conscience; Thou deceitful Spirit, how hast thou wrested the words set down about the Law of God, which answers his Justice, & the Light in the Conscience, which answers the law of God which is perfect, according to that in the conscience; Let the read that Book, which thou hast wrested, called, The Glory of the Lord, arising shaking terribly the earth & overturning all, until righteousness be set up; being an Encounter with the Ministers of the world, touching their Maintenance, wherein they are beaten with their own Weapons; confuted by their own Scriptures, and Arguments, and that will sufficiently witness against thy lies; & witness against to the Law of God, which is for Establishing Religion; and seeing thy lies are so made manifest, I shall leave this to the simple-hearted that they may take notice of thy deceits, herein made manifest, besides much filthiness in thy book of slanders▪ where thou deceifully hast wrested our words, by thy sorcery and witchcraft, but Truth is cleared, and thou art ensnared and proved to be the contradicter of Scriptures, and not those whom thou scornfully calls Quakers. This is a Testimony against that Pamphlet (nameless Author) called, The serious reveiw of some Principles of the Quakers. IN a paper called, A serious review of some Principles of the Quakers; one that saith, He hath ceased from man, and is dead to Sects; and saith, There is many in this Age who do own in their judgement many parts of Truth, or several sound Principles of Religion, as it were by piecemeal, who notwithftanding many more things, if not in the most, do err: And as for error & deceit under refined subtlety, that is the condition of die man that saith, He is dead to all Sects, but he is yet alive in the opinions, and stands on the ground of fancies, and filled with conceits, and catching at truths in the notion, but errs not knowing the seed of God, nor the Key of the true Knowledge, nor the Spirit that stands before the Throne, the flaming Sword, nor the Cherub, but is shut out of the ground of Truth, grinding and making meal, or provision for the Lust, feeding with the Serpent upon dust; and yet with his high airy notions, and coloured expressions, thinks to hid himself, but is bare to the single eyed: He saith, he shall lay down several principles of the Quakers, and as he propounds them he shall refute them, yet shall speak of none of them but such as be most known, that they may not have it to say that he wrists their words and do belly them; but in the first place, thou wrists and belies the words of I: Nayler, and G: Fox, let the wise hearted read saul's errand and the 4th page in the Answer to the perfect Pharisee, and the words are not as thou hast set them down, therefore thou art a perverter of them and a liar, and instead of defending the Truth thou art labouring to uphold the Deceit, but those two Books shall witness for the Truth, against thy fancy and whimsy amongst all thy scraped up stuff; this is the weight or matter that thou stumbles at, as if there should be something in man that is not creared; what is the seed of God that keeps such as are born of God that they cannot commit sin, & that which is born after the will of God, in whom that seed abides, which is as the wind that bloweth, and no man knows by his will the manner of the work brought forth by it but he that is not of the world, and what is that unction that abideth in such, which teacheth them all things, & is truth and no lie; Is that holy unction created, & is not that in the regenerate? And the holy Ghost is that created, and is not that in such, and abides in them, & that mystery of Faith which is held in a pure conscience, what is that, is it not in man? and what is that which bruises the Serpent's head, and the mystery of godliness in man? And such as are so joined to that seed, & in union with that one spirit, thou and the harlot are ignorant of them and that mystery, & therefore thou mayst stop thy mouth, for thou hast manifeded thy ignorance, and knows not our Principles, they are not for thee to take up to carry about in thy foul reason, & dirty mire imagination, words that proceeds from the Principle thou imagines of, but knows neither the Principle nor the Power in which we stand, that knows not that there is something in man that is eternal; & therefore thou knows not the seed of God, the holy Ghost, the unction, the life which comes down from Heaven, nor that God in Saints dwells and walks according to his Promise, nor that Christ is glorified in them; and being ignorant of the life of God in Saints, thou must needs err and lie, being out of the living truth, & guided by a spirit of error and deceit, thou canst do no other: & as for the soul which thou puzzles thy mind about, thou art ignorant of, that knows not the living word of God, which divides asunder betwixt soul and spirit, as the Scripture declareth, Heb. 4.12. and the Serpent being head in thee; he is ranging and raking up stuff out of the bottomless pit to hid and cover himself withal, but thou art seen and weighed, and thou art offended at the Saint's life, as the Serpent's seed ever was, and all thy wrest cannot separate the Father and the Son asunder, and he that hath the Father hath the Son, and eternal life abiding it: him, 1 Joh. 5.11, 12. and abiding in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father & the Son, 2 Joh. 9 and is changed from glory to glory into the same pure Image, which thou art ignorant of, 2 Cor. 3.17, 18. and he that hath said, the Father and the Son are one, & I and my Father are one, doth not contradict Scripture, as thou dost, and also as I: Stalham doth, who himself pleads for bread & wine, as an Ordinance, to last till Christ come personally upon earth, and to be a substantial Christ in that bread at institution, and to have a spirit in the bread, and a spirit in the Letter and to be given by it, & to be born of the Scripture, & such like stuff as that, being his conjurations, and without bottom from the word; and so you are those that deny; Gods indwelling in Saints, that knows not something eternal in them; God is not created; and he hath said, I will dwell in them and walk in them, 2 Cor: 6 16. and the life of Christ is manifest in Saints bodies, 2 Cor: 4. and the Father & the Son are in union together in them that are sanctified and preserved 2 Joh. 9 and as Christ hath said, At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and you in me and I in you, Joh. 14.20. & such may witness him; and great is the admiration where Christ is glorified in Saints, 2 Thes. 1.10. & that the same mind is in them that is in him, Phil: 2. Rom. 8. and that God sends the spirit of his Son into their hearts that they cry Abba Father, Gal. 4.6. wonderful is the love of God to his children, & to be admired, 1 Joh. 3. which thou art a stranger unto, as thou hast made thyself manifest: And to thy 2d, that the light of Christ is the light of the world is witnessed; & the true light that lighteth every man that comes into the world; & such as follow him the true light, are led by him into the Light of Life which light is the condemnation of such as hate it & act contrary to it and that accusation of thine before is written to, in answer to J●● Stalham, thy companion in the Evil, who are both acting against the truth, & so serving the Devil, & for that Book of James Naylor in answer to the perfect Pharisee It will stand as a witness against you, and your generation & also all the other books which you wrested, but cannot shake any child of Truth; they stand upon you & see you painted harlots, to be decked & coloured with the whore's attire & you and your stuff is fuel for the fire. And to thy 4th that some are come out of the fall, that we witness & that the second Adam hath redeemed, and is redeeming what the first Adam lost & blessed are all they that wait for him but thou art opposing the Truth, & scraping up Scriptures, to plead for sin, & to prove that Adam in a covenant of works, before he fell, and contradicts thyself therein, as before is proved, & makes thyself manifest to be in the fall, and yet under the curse: And to thy 5th no sin nor such imperfect thing can be reconciled to God nor enter into his kingdom, is true and witnessed, which thou accusest James Naylor of; and to show forth thy deceit, thou says, Reason would think that no perfect thing could be reconciled to God; & here thy reason would join the seed of the Serpent & the seed of God together but cannot: 1 Cor: 6.9, 10 Rev. 2●. 8.27. for it and thou art shut out with the Light which thou art an enemy unto, and when thou hast scraped up much stuff to no purpose, than thou closest it up with 2 or 3 Scriptures, as if God and sin could be reconciled together which cannot be; but Christ being manifested to take away sin & destroy the works of the Devil, 1 Joh: 3.3, 4, 5. etc. he is the way & makes way to reconcile such to God, Justifying them from ungodliness; and sanctifying them, 1 Cor: 6.11. Heb. 2. for both he that sanctifieth, and they that are sanctified are all one, for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren, ●. 11. & so he that brings many sons unto glory, v. 10. doth take away their sins and sanctifies them, and presents them blameless and perfect before God, Eph. 5. without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, v: 26, 27. and where there is sin there is spot and wrinkle & such like things; and that conclusion of thine is a false one, and from the spirit of deceit, that would reconcile God and sin together, but that soul in whom sin hath dwelled, being separated from sin is made righteous, and the creature also, and being sanctified is reconciled, which thou art ignorant of, and of the seed in him, 1 Joh. 3.9. that is born of God, and so sanctified, 1 Pet. 1.22, 23. And the unrighteous shall not inherit the Kingdom of god, than such are not reconciled, 1 Cor. 6.10, 11. Gal. 5.19, 20. And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth; but sin defileth, therefore God and sin are not reconciled, nor such as live and act in it, and plead for it; neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie, (look to it ye unrighteous ones) but such shall enter as are without sin, and are reconciled, being written in the Lamb's book of life, Rev. 21.27. To thy sixth, That Jesus Christ is the only Light, and no other Light besides him to salvation; this is one thing that thou seeks to oppose, and accuse I: Nayler for: Oh! that ever man should be so blind, and carried on wilfully, to act the Devil's part, as thou art; thy scraped up stuff I turn unde; and witness against thy spirit, and I witness that Christ is the true Light, and the way to the Father, and the alone Saviour of all that obey him, Heb. 5.8, 9 and perfectly able to save all that come unto God by him, Heb. 7.25. without any thing, contrary to him, or the invention and divination of thy brain, or such in thy nature, as further is cleared before in Answer to thy partaker Joh: Stalham; But thou must needs busy thy mind, to run over the same things, to show forth thy folly, and all that knows God they know that there is no other way, nor Light, to come to the Father by, and to salvation, but by Jesus Christ: and if thou canst produce another way besides him, and another Light, pretended by thee to lead to salvation let's know thy shallowness in it, who hath set thyself to invent, and follows inventions, and conceits of thy brain; but I see by thy Eight that thou as well as John Stalham, would have a Letter Light, a Letter word, and so a Letter Saviour; and calls Christ reason, as he calls him natural and common; but for all the Scriptures you have ranked together, not one of them saith, that Christ the true Light is a natural and common Light, as John Stalham says, who gives the Letter the pre-eminence, and not Christ; and so contradicts the Scriptures; But thou hast manifested thy Rantisme; and both of you, you are found to be enemies to the Spirit and liars of the Scriptures also; And after thou hast wound about to cover thyself in the latter end of thy eight, thou hast left thyself bare, when all the Scriptures thou hast gathered together, and thy reason, will not nor cannot prove the Scriptures to be eternal life; than not that word which endureth for ever; nor the word by which the worlds were made, nor the Spirit & power of life, nor Christ Jesus, upon which the Prophets and Apostles were builded; but thou says (& says falsely) that the Scriptures which thou calls the Word, is called the foundation of the Prophets and Apostles, setting down Eph: 2.20. Now that very Scripture witnesseth against thee & confutes thee; for it calls Christ the foundation of the Prophets and Apostles, and the chief corner stone in whom all the building fitly framed groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord; (not in the Letter) but in the Lord in whom they was builded together, for an habitation of God through the Spirit, (and not through the Letter) but through the Spirit, Eph: 2.20, 21, 22. And say they through him (through Christ not the Scripture) but through Christ; They both had an access, not by the Letter (as thou affirms) but by the Spirit, Eph: 2 18. How hast thou uttered thy folly, and lied of the Spirit, that called Christ the foundation of the Prophets and Apostle; and thou says, the Scriptures are, and in that thou hast lied of the Scriptures also; for the words that are left upon record witnesses against thee, and both thou and John Stalham have showed your ignorance of Christ the foundation, of the Prophets and Apostles, & your foundation is the words which witness against you, and all liars, & thou hast manifested the same, that the Letter is your ground, for thou saith it is the ground of your faith, P: 12. and so your faith is not upon Christ, which is the Saints ground; for they witness Jesus Christ to be the Author and finisher of their faith, Heb: 12.2. But the Scripture is your ground of faith, thou says and so no Scripture no faith. no faith no salvation; and let all the wise in heart see if thou would not here have a letter Saviour, but it is good that fools utter their folly that others may learn to be wise; And where thou art offended at thou and thee, words of truth, and the Scripture Language: there thou crosseth the Scripture & contradicts them for thou canst not show one plain scripture in all the Bible that says you to one single person; & all thy twisting in the 9th is but to plead for deceit: and 〈…〉 and Civil honour, we are not to learn that of one that is out of the counsel of Christ, as thou art, and knows not the eternal Word; which thou and John Stalham have showed yourselves Ignorant of, and to be without the Spirit of Christ, to guide you, and such are not his; And as for things that stands in the Counsel of Christ, and agrees with his Word, we are subject unto, and own true and just Government, and the authority: But your lies, flattery and deceit, and scraped up stuff we do deny, and against you, and your deceitful Spirits dee we declare and testify: And as for that Book, which is without a printed Name, that hath P: E: at it; this shall be as a witness against it, with the following words, also, as a conclusion against your delusion; There is a Paper from the same spirit of error and deceit, comed out of Scotland without a name, the Author being either convicted in his Conscience that he hath belied the Truth, or else some shame to own that for truth which he hath published, or some such like thing; but though his name be hid, his heart is uncovered to the single eyed; (and if Peter English be his name) his spirit is weighed and tried, with the light that manifests his subtlety, flattery, deceit, secret ennity, and serpentine policy; and he and thou John Stalham are both in one mystery of Iniquity, and because he hath in effect or substance the same things scraped up that thou hast; This which I have written shall be as a witness against you both, and the Light in your Consciences, as the book of Conscience is opened will remember you in the bed of torment, and be a swift witness against you, and be your Condemenation, that hare it, and set yourselves to work wickedness, and that Light which convinceth you of the evil of your ways, will let you see yourselves, as Conscience book is opened, to be the vilest, and of the same spirit of wickedness (though under a refined subtlety) that the vilest of men are, and that Light which yond now hate and scorn will remember you▪ of what (against it and the Lord) you have acted and done, and the thoughts and intents of your hearts, will be seen and discovered by it; and you, and all that hate it, will by Christ the Light of the World be judged, and rewarded, according to the deeds done in your bodies, and in the day of the Lords fierce wrath you will know the Judge of hearts, and that you cannot hid yourselves from him, all your covers will be too narrow, in the day of wrath, when you are cast into a bed of Torment; remembered you will be, now you are warned, though with deceit your hearts will be filled, and with subtlety against the Truth, you be armed; It is hard for you to kick against p ickes: But for the simple ones sake have I written this, that they may be ware of your subtlety, lest they be deceived by you, and partake of the plagues with you. Written by a servant of the Lord, known to the World by the name of Richard Farneworth. From Balbie in Yorkshire the 22th of the 4th Month. 55. England. FINIS.