THE ANSWER OF EDWARD HAYWARD, Clerk of the Survey at Chatham, (merely for his own Vindication) to a most Abusive and Scandalous Pamphlet, lately publish-and dispersed by George Kendal, M. A. (as he styles himself) and Clerk of the Survey at Deptford, and Woolwich. LONDON: Printed by Peter Cole, Printer, and Bookseller, at the sign of the Printing-press in Cornhill, by the Exchange. 1656. READER, HAving lately seen, a most scandalous Pamphlet, written by Mr. Kendal of Deptford, full of unworthy Reflections, which speaks more malice than Christianity in him, though a high Pretender; I could do no less for my own Vindication, than take notice of it, and make a Reply, wherein I shall not be tedious. But before I proceed to the matter in hand, it will be requisite to promise, as a Truth, that one cause (though there be other ends) of Mr. Kendalls Defamation, is grounded upon some late Differences between us, albeit, upon the examination and determination of the things in Controversy, the Commissioners of the Navy, were pleased to forbid all future animosities, and to give a Command, that we should live in peace, and love, which was no ways violated on my part. And now, without more ado, I shall fall upon the Work, and answer to what I conceive material in the Pamphlet. 1. As to the Naseby, there was no cause at all, that what I only mentioned in the Contents of my Book, touching her Rigging, when she was but upon the Stocks, should be brought in a parallel with the Resolution, after the lengths of the Nasebyes Masts and Yards were known, and her Riggings precisely set out, only it was a design in the Master of Arts, to do me a mischief, having studied the Case. 2. As to the Swiftsure, it may easily be answered that the Difference was great, between her first built, and her last alteration at Woolwich in respect of Masts and Yards, which must needs vary the property of Riggings, therefore no less than malice itself, could raise scruples from such an occasion, and if that Ship was joined in the List of Riggings anciently allowed her, for Methods sake, it doth not follow that this must be a crime in me, or a ground of any loss to the State (as is insinuated) neither need any to doubt, Charity prompts good men to think others are as faithful and just as themselves. who are not utterly void of Charity, but that I shall have so much discretion, as to consider the Ship in the Condition she is, at her coming into Chatham Harbour; and so likewise of other Ships, as I have hinted more at large, in the Epistle of my Book to the Commissioners of the Navy, and I did it purposely to avoid such an Objection, as is now started by learned Mr. Kendal. And this last Point being cleared, it will manifest to all, that the weight of Riggings doth not hold alike to Ships of a Rank, which might have spared the Conclusions drawn by Mr. Kendal most unworthily; for if there be no loss in the particulars, there can be none in the general: and my setting of the weight of Riggings, was intended for no other ends, but to make an estimate upon any sudden occasion: therefore the new Surveyor might have spared the labour of casting up the Riggings for such a purpose, only he loves to be meddling, and cares not what dirt he casts in the face of honest men, to compass his own designs: of which more hereafter. However; to clear up mine own Innocency, both in the State's Service, and as to private men, as to any unjust, sinister, or unworthy deal, thus much I propose to the worst of mine Enemies (not in any boasting way, but because I am forced) and leave them free to charge me if they can, as to any of the following parciculars. 1. I challenge all the world to tax me with one dishonest Action, either to the State, or to any particular person wilfully committed in twenty eight years time, since I came first into the Navy. 2. I am free, and willing to give an account, how I have gotten that little Estate which I have, to any who shall desire satisfaction in that particular, and this I do the rather mention, because I am envied by some for my Prosperity; though it is not unknown to many, that in all my time I have desired to live frugally, and have sometimes had the profit of other employments (besides the Clerk of the Surveys Place) without which I had been so far from adding to what I then had, that I could not have subsisted, myself and Family, by the Salary given me for executing that Trust, or Mystery (as Mr. Kendal calls it) for many years together. 3. I appeal to all that live near me, whether I have not been faithful to the Interest of this Commonwealth, in all the late times of trouble, and in particular, hazarded my life, and all that was dear unto me, in the last Kentish Insurrection, 1648. to adhere to their Interest, when also I had but few leading Examples. 4. I appeal to the greatest of my Adversaries, whether I have not attended the Duty of my place, and carried myself peaceably towards all men, and yet been severe enough, to save the State what I could, whensoever any business came before me touching the Survey. 5. I appeal to all that know me, Whether I have not been a Friend to the Godly Ministry, a constant Hearer of the Word, a careful Instructor of my Family, and an Observer of Family Duties. 6. I appeal, Whether I have at any time frequented Taverns or Alehouses, with all, or any of the Boat-swains, or Carpenters, of the States Ships, or have otherwise had open, or secret compliance, or correspondence with them, further, or more inintimately, than my Trust did necessarily require. 7. I do appeal to the Judgements of all that know me, whether the State hath lost any thing considerable, for want of knowledge or experience in my Duty, and whether they have not reaped the benefit of my Experience, and Diligence in my Trust, beyond other men in the same Trust in other Places. 8. I challenge any man that can tax me with dissoluteness, nay, I can truly say, with one act of Drunkenness, in my whole life time, blessed be God. Though I am not ignorant how unable Mr. Kendal himself, is to endure the test of these Appeals; yet, if in these, or any other particulars referring either to my personal behaviour towards all men, or any particular Trust in the State's Service, Mr. Kendal, or any other man, can justly tax me, as one unworthy of, or to be continued in the Trust reposed in me from the State (granting me the Allowance of the ordinary infirmities of a man) I shall willingly give Mr. Kendal the Liberty of laying load upon me, without the least desire of favour, but till then, he must not think, that all that he says of me, will stick upon me because spoken by him, as a Master of Arts, which few men knew him to be before, and many men yet doubt him to be; yea, I question not the Justice of the State so far, as to Vindicate me from his close insinuations till matter of fact be produced, and proof made thereof, in due form, and not suffer him by a blank— to traduce my good Name, which stands upon a better Foundation, than to be over-turned, or weakened, by his undermining designs; not that I am so fond of the Service, as that I cannot freely submit to the State's Pleasure in my Dismission from it, although Mr. Kendal himself should be my Successor, which I easily perceive, and so may all indifferent Readers, is the design of his Book; but that which I abhor is, the Bait laid to catch it, viz. to cry up his own extraordinary Parts and Abilities, to vilify mine, by his Mathematical Demonstrations, and learned Parallels, and then to render me false and unworthy in my Trust, as if because, by his Parallel, so much Cordage was, or might have been saved, of what was allowed in my Book, therefore the Boatswains and I had shared it between us; Is this a Conclusion fit for a Master of Arts to deduce from such Premises? The truth is, I have of late met with so many Discouragements, after all my Faithful Service to the State, which makes me so far from aspiring the Service, that I shall not much regard, how soon I were discharged thereof, after a fair Vindication of those unjust Aspersions cast upon me by Mr. Kendal, who as if he kend all things knowable in the Mystery of the Survey business, undertakes (Dictator like) to impose upon all men his upstart Experiences in the Navy, as if no man knew any thing thereof but himself, not at all considering the great Damage the State hath already sustained by his ignorance in that very thing, wherein at present he would be reputed so knowing; nor yet that the Duty of his, or my Place, is so much (if at all) to say what Cordage, either for size or length, is fit for this or that Ship, as to warrant the Store-keeper, to issue to the Boatswains, that, and no more, both for size and length, without the concurrent Advice of the Master Attendant, whose Directions are, and aught to be our Voucher; for what we do to all Ships respectively, as ours is to the Store-keeper for the delivery thereof; nor was it my design in my late Book, so to determine the sizes and lengths of Cordage, to ships of each Rank, as to exclude the Master Attendants Judgement in varying the same, as the manner of built of each ship of the same Ranks, might necessarily require; nor yet to act without him, and his Directions, according to the ancient Form of the Office, though he should concur with me in the size and length, quantity and quality of each ships Cordage. That which I drove at, was to let his Highness the Lord Protector, and the Honourable Commissioners of the Admiralty, see the nearest Estimate that I could make, of the quantity of Cordage spent upon each ship of each Rank, by setting down the size and length of each Rope; and if therein, I did either anticipate Mr. Kendal's design for the same thing, or that my allowance hath been more than Mr. Kendalls Thrift thinks fit, the State is not so tied up to my Opinion, that what I said out of good Affection to their Service, should either be like the Laws of the Medes and Persians unalterable, or otherwise construed any prejudice; only Mr. Kendal well hoping by this Pamphlet, and the imaginary discoveries thereof, to have leapt into my Place, as the Reward of his great, and good Service; which the better to compass, he would make the State believe, that whatsoever is, or may be saved by his Parallel, is pursed by me in the States wrong. Yea, I always was, and still am so far from being positive in my Opinion, in that, or any other particular, that I shall not in the least grudge Mr. Kendal the Honour of instructing me better, if the State may any way reap the profit thereof, though I must clearly affirm, That when both he and I have done our utmost endeavours for Regulation herein, it will be the wisdom, and it must be the safety, both of him and me, to act by the old Rule of the Master Attendants Directions, who if he sees cause to vary from our Judgements, may give more or less both for length and size, than either my Book, or his Parallel do allow; and if he pleaseth to cavel with them, as he hath done with me, I believe they are able to give an account of their Actions to the State, without fear of his Discoveries; yea, they will tell him, That whatsoever he, or I may fancy, as to the precise length and size of each particular Rope of this or that ship, not only may, but must be varied in both, in the Rigging of ships of the same Ranks, which however he laughs at as an excuse of theirs, in Rhyme, at the end of his Book, yet I doubt not, but if he had once obtained what he so greedily hunts after (my Place, or a good reward in Moneys in lieu thereof) he would as readily acquiess in that Opinion as rational, as they that now propose and practise it; for indeed, it is not possible to Rig all Ships by one precise Rule, I mean, not all Ships of the same Rank, not only with reference to the various manner of their built (hinted before) but also with reference to the putting ships of lesser bulk into higher Ranks, as hath been usual heretofore; so that when all is said or done, that can be said or done by us both, it must be left to the Judgement and Discretion of the Master Attendant upon the place, to make his demand longer or shorter, bigger or lesser, as the particular ship to be rigged with respect had to her Built, Masts, Yards, etc. may require; all which is also confessed by himself in the 11. page of his Pamphlet, to which I refer my Reader. For his carping at my Book, with reference to Masts, Yards, Anchors, Cables, etc. the same Answer may serve, that was given to the former, viz. That the Master's Attendant, and Master Shipwrights, are respectively to determine the number, size, length, breadth, and other circumstances, before either he at Deptford, or I at Chatham, may, or aught to warrant the Store-keeper, their delivery; and what was said as to them in my Book, was more to give the Honourable the Commissioners of the Admiralty some light, or guests at the particulars there mentioned, than any ways to satisfy mine own curiosity, or otherwise to limit those Instruments (to whose Judgements I must, and will subscribe) to my Opinion; and if Mr. Kendal can prevail with them to submit to his, though different from mine (provided the State may be the Gainer) I am satisfied; only I cannot believe either the one, or the other, till (if then) Mr. Kendal hath taken his Degrees in the Navy, as equally as at the University; and in the interim, I hope his Charity will invite him to spare my Book from the common Justice of the Hangman (a greater and more malicious revenge being rare to be found) till a better than it, be presented by him, and allowed of by the State, wherein I doubt not those in Authority for the mannagement of the Navy, will do the State right, without any regard had to him or me, further than as both of us shall design the Service, without ambitious or envious ends of our own. Edw. Hayward. Chatham, Sept. 1656.