The Innocency of the righteous seed of God cleared from all slanderous tongues and false accusers. IN answer to a printed paper set forth by Frederick Woodall, wherein he goes about to render the truth of God odious, and by a clack of maliciousness to cover those lies which he hath formerly published: but in the light of God, I do him see and comprehend, and in it he is made manifest to all the children of light to be no minister of Christ, and to the light of Christ in all consciences I speak that in it they may read these things which from the light is declared that so occasion may be cut off from all who, seek occasion against the truth; that so people's minds may not be Insenced against the truth of God by his refuge of lies set forth in his paper, called natural and spiritual light distinguished. But in the light of Christ, which is but one, which is not natural but spiritual, is he seen to be natural, and his distinction to be natural and so in the light, the natural man with his natural doctrine, and natural distinction is denied, and Christ Jesus we do witness, who is the true light which lighteth every one that cometh into the world John 1. 9 I am come a light into the world that whosoever believeth in me should not abide in darkness, John. 12. 46. and this is the condemnation of the world that light is come into the world and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil Joh. 3. 19 20. 21. Now all you who are enlightened by Christ Jesus and can read in the light, and with understanding, to you there is no occasion of stumbling, but all stumbling and the occasion of it is in them who hates the light and calls it natural, which light is Christ for him a witness, I am against all such who deny Christ to be the true light, which lighteth every on that cometh into the world. Who is of the world called Richard Hubberthorne, NOw as in answer to thee Frederick Woodall, who hath put a stumbling block before the eyes of many, by thy lies and deceit to keep them from receiving the pure truth of God, which the Lord is now spreading abroad and making manifest to gather to himself his own from the mouths of all false shepherd's, that Jesus Christ the true shepherd they may come to witness, who is the true light and is not natural as thou would make him to be; nor that light in the conscience is not natural, which Jesus Christ hath enlightened every one with all, but all who in it dwell shall witness against thee, and thy malicious spirit, who hath uttered forth thy bitterness and venom against those who walk in the light, and who witness the truth of God in the life and power of it, and against all false accusers. In the beginning of thy Epistle to the Reader thy enmity thou utters forth against those, who for the name of Christ do bare his reproach in the world, in whom the Scripture is fulfiled, which saith they shall speak all manner of evil of you falsely for my name sake, and thou art one of them who art speaking evil and encouraging others to speak evil against those, whom thou and the rest of the scorners call Quakers, and calls them a nest of stinging wasps, and saith that they have leavened a dear Brother and Sister of thine and made them prosylites unto them. This accusation is returned back again upon thy own I answ. head for the poison of asps is found under thy tongue and forth of the venom doth proceed, as all who hath understanding may see and discern, and those whom thou calls thy dear Brother and Sister are made able in the light of Christ to testify against thee and thy , and to witness that they are brought out of the prosilites condition, and out of the leaven of the false profits and false teachers, which they were in so long as they followed thy doctrine, but now that doctrine they do see whichdoth leaven and draw people's minds from the light of Christ within them, and so makes prosilites and children of the devil, but in the light of Christ art thou and all that uphold that doctrine seen and denied. In the first page of thy paper thou would make people believe that thou makes no defence against my reply to thy answers, and yet in the second page thou replies against mine, concerning the tenth Query, and charges me in reputing thee the author or father of aly, in returning to thee again thy own words in answer to the tenth Query which words are these, it is intolerable that Christ should be the prince of peace. I answer, let every on who hath a desire to know, whether this be so, read thy own words in thy printed paper in thy answer to the tenth Query, in the twelft page, whether these be not thy own words, the tenth is Intolerable that Christ may be the Prince of peace, and here to all whose eyes are opened may see that thoudenies that Christ may be the Prince of peace, and saith it is Intolerable, and the rest of thy words which are in answer to that Query are full of confusion, and all who reads them may see it, so I leave thee to be Judged of all & condemned of all, who in the light of Christ do see thy confusion which proceeds out of thy own mouth. 'Tis a previledge we have cause to bless God for every Priest. day, viz. that unto us are committed the Oracles of God. Here I charge the to prove when ever the oracles of Answ. God was committed unto thee, or to the Priests of England: unto the Jews they were committed which was before Christ came in the flesh, and they who had the oracles of God committed unto them did seek to kill and crucify the Son of God, as you the priest of England who, go in the way of Cain and after the error of Balaam, do now seek to destroy the Son of God, where he is made manifest and the Oracles of God were never committed unto you, nor the ministration of the Gospel, but in the steps of those you are found, who ever persecuted the righteous seed of God, as you have made it manifest in this generation. And again thou art bringing scriptures to prove the letter to be the word of God: which Scriptures will witness against thee, for the Scripture saith that God is the word, John 11. and thou art diminishing, from some and adding, to others and perverting the Scriptures to thy own ends, thou brings that scripture in Titus 2. 10. 11. 12. 13. and these words thou speaks from them, this is the grace of God bringing salvation; when the Apostle saith for the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men teaching us that denying ungodliness and worldly lusts we should live soberly, righteously and Godly in this present world, and here though thou bring this scripture in thy paper, yet it thou canst not own, that the grace of God which bringeth salvation to all men hath appeared, who denies Christ to have enlightened every one that comes into the world. This word for the manner of delivery unto us is called Priest. scripture, and we are commanded to search it, Joh. 4. 39 and laid under the promise of blessing in that way, Psal. 1. 2. Here thou hast numbered thyself amongst those whom Answ. Christ commanded to search the scriptures, and amongst them shalt thou be numbered, and in that scripture thou may read thy condition and the rest of the priests with thee, as John 37. 38. 39 40. ye have neither heard his voice at any time nor seen his shape, and ye have not his word abiding in you for whom he hath sent ye him, believe not, search the scriptures for in them ye think to have eternal life, and they are they which testify of me, and ye will not come to me that ye might have life, now all you who are in the same condition, the same command is unto you. But there is no promise of blessing promised unto you in that way, no more than was to them, which was so commanded, but never prove yourselves ministers of Christ, for they were no ministers of Christ that this was spoken, unto nor no Saints, but such as received honour one of another as you do, who are in that generation. And they were such as did not believe that which they did profess, Moses & the Prophets, but Christ tells them plainly they did not believe Moses nor his writings, and all you now that profess Christ you cannot believe Christ's words, who saith he is the true light which doth enlighten every one that cometh into the world. Therefore out of the doctrine of Christ you are shut, and out of the scriptures which you do profess, for the Son's life which witnesseth the scriptures you deny, and are strangers unto, he that hath an care to hear let him hear. Satan hath from the beginning envied a people this Priest. privilege, and saith, at Christ's first coming the commandments of God was made of none effect through tradition, Mat. 15. 6. and saith, at Christ's second coming the commandments of God will be of none effect through revelation. Here thou hast uttered forth words without knowledge, Answ. but it is that thy Ignorance and folly may be laid open unto all, for it was they that made the commandments of God of none effect through tradition, which precryed standing in the Synagogues had the chiefest places in the assemblies, and was called of men master, and in these steps art thou and the rest of the priests in England who art the same things, for at Christ's first coming he cried woe against such, and the same Christ cries woe against the same things now, and whereas thou sayest that at Christ's second coming the commandments of God will be of none effect through revelation, here I charge thee to be a blasphemer and dost speak that thou hast no scripture for and contrary to the scriptures and contrary to the Apostles doctrine, for Paul did witness Christ second coming which was in the spirit as in Gallatians 2. and 2. and saith I went up by revelation and communicated unto them that Gospel which I preached amongst the gentiles and he did witness the Son of God revealed in him and all the Apostles who did witness him to be come again to them, the second time to reveal the will of the Father unto them, this did not make the commandments of God of none effect, & the same Christ we do witness to be come and hath revealed the Father's will unto us, for no man knows the Father but the Son and he to whom the Son reveals him, this we do witness, eternal living praises to him for ever more and by his revealing his Son in us his commandments are fulfilled, and so all such we do deny that say by the revelation at the second coming of Christ they shall be made of none effect. Certainly many old Testament Saints saw into the Priest. glory and liberty of New Testament times, yet durst not cease from that worship which was burdensome worldly and carnal, till the Lord did come in person and call them out. Here I do charge thee to prove where ever any of the Answ. Saints before Christ was made manifest in the flesh did continue in that worship which they saw to be burdensome worldly and carnal, but did declare against all false worship sacrifices and services which was worldly and carnal, and against all who drew near to God with their mouths, whose hearts was from God and against all Idolitrous worships which were carnal & did cast of every burden, as is witnessed in the prophets, which were before Christ came in the flesh, and here all the prophets and holy men of God shall witness against thee, as Isaiah, Jerem. David, Ezek, Mica, and the rest who worshipped God and their worship was not carnal nor worldly, neither did Christ come in person to call them out of their worship for they had finished their testimony before Christ came in the flesh, who did fulfil their testimony and did bear witness unto it, that it was of God, and did declare all that were out of that worship which the Saints were in who worshipped God before Christ came in the flesh, who was the end of the Law and the end of the Prophets, let him that hath understanding read these things: now here doth Christ, the Saints & the Scriptures all bear witness against thee and thy doctrine, which would make people believe that the Prophets and holy men of God who were before Christ came in the flesh, did live and continue in that worship which was burdensome worldly and carnal, which here is proved against thee by Christ the Saints & the Scriptures that shame may cover thy face and that thy mouth may be stopped and that the simple may know the truth, for whose sakes this is given forth. So New Testament Saints may see into that liberty and Priest. glory, which is to be revealed but let them not go forth before the time but abide in New Testament worship till the Lord come in person and call them out, and then they shall go out all together, Matt. 24. 27. it is indeed a worthy life which we live in the spirit, but it is an unworthy deceit that except we live out of the Gospel we cannot live in the spirit. O be ashamed for ever to profess thyself a minister Answ. of Christ and of the Gospel: why dost thou preach at all, or what art thou a minister of, if that Christ be yet to be revealed or uncome in person, which thou holds forth to the people, and how many souls hast thou led into that pit of darkness and blindness as to believe that Christ is yet to come in person, he that confesseth not Jesus Christ to be come in the flesh is an antichrist and he that preacheth any other Gospel or any other Christ, then that which did come in the flesh and was made manifest in the Saints, and is now made manifest and witnessed to be come in the flesh, let him be accursed, now the Scripture which thou brings in Matth. 24. 27. proves no such thing as another Christ coming in person for the same Scripture we do witness to be fulfilled in us and in his light do we see all those who are in the desert, and who are in the secret chambers whom they go out, unto who turn from the light of Christ within them, to hearken unto those who cannot witness the coming of the son of man as the lighting from the East shineth even unto the West, but talks of an expectation of the appearance of Christ in person, and professed to be ministers of that Christ which yet is to come in person, and here thou art razed out from the Apostles doctrine who did not preach any other Christ but that which was come and made manifest, and did never tell of Christ second coming in person nor of his personal reign, and thou that tells of such a deceit that except ye live out of Gospel, ye cannot live in the spirit, here thy deceit is indeed made manifest and thy life, who would separate the Gospel from the spirit, but against that life and deceit we bore witness who by this spirit do, & according to the Gospel: Again thou art teaching people how to set up popery as followeth. If they will prove the pope supreme Monarch this way Priest. it may be done; God made two lights the greater to rule the day viz. the Pope, the lesser, to rule the night viz. the Emperor. Here thou who hadst professed thyself, long to be a Answ. teacher and preached against popery and hast not been ashamed to accuse others of it, who stand clear in the truth of God, witnessing against all such ways of darkness, but now thou art here found teaching people how to make the Pope supreme Monarch, by saying God made two lights the greater to rule the day, viz. the Pope the lesser to rule the night, viz. the Emperor, and so makes the Pope & Emperor to be those two lights, here I charge thee to prove where ever the ministers of Christ taught any such thing to the people or did so contemn, and despise the ordinances of Heaven, and the lights which God made to rule the day and the night, which thou compares to two carnal men like thyself, and here thou hast perverted the scriptures and made thy folly and deceit manifest to all, that they that can but read in the natural heavens will condemn thee, and out of thy own mouth, thou art condemned, for in thy paper thou hast said that which is not scriptural is not spiritual, now for that which thou hast said thou hast no scripture to prove it, and the Scripture will testify against thee, and the Son and the Moon which are in there course in the Firmament of Heaven, will testify against the and so these we do deny and thy doctrine with the Pope and his supreme Monarch, & all who worship the host of Heaven, we deny being clear from there doctrine and deceit. If they will establish simplicity faith thus it may be Priest. done Job 1. 14. it is the oxon we are ploughing, and the asses feeding besides them (in East, the priests were preaching and the people believing this is to Crucify the word of God.) Here thou art proved and made manifest to be a false Answ. teacher who art teaching people how to establish implicit faith, and to blind the eyes of people thou brings that scripture Job 1. 14. when as there is no such word as implicit faith spoken of there, nor in the scripture thou finds no such word, nor did ever any of the ministers of God teach people how to establish any such thing, and those priests who preach that, and that people which believes it do make the word of God of none effect, through tradition. Thou art charging and accusing some to hold forth Priest. the mystery of iniquity in principles, and to affirm a community of persons, and things. The mystery of iniquity we know, and them in whom Answ. it worketh, in all deceivablesse of unrighteousness, and from it and its workings we are separated by Christ Jesus, and in his light do see, & comprehend its workings in the children of disobedience, and all vile, and unclean persons, who are in the lusts of uncleanness and in the mystery of iniquity, and all things which are separated from the light we have no union nor fellowship, with and all these practices we do deny, which are unclean, which is acted contrary to the light which is pure in which we are called, not unto uncleanness but unto holiness, and to this God is our witness and our consciences also bears us witness, against all false accusers, so I charge the who hath put forth this accusation to turn thy mind to the light of Christ in thy conscience, and with it thou may see in thyself the ground where this mystery of iniquity worketh, and thou may see in thyself, that which hath unity, with that which is unclean the lusts of uncleanness, in ordinate effections, and evil concupiscence the ground which the mystery of iniquity worketh in, is yet standing in thee, and so, of the same things of which thou accuses others art thou found guilty, which is for condemnation with the light. 'Tis pity Christ should be the foundation, and wood Priest. hay stubble built there upon, yet this is possible, 1 Cor. 3. 15. Here thou hast perverted Paul's words, and speaks thy Answ. own invention contrary to the scripture, for Paul did not say 'tis pity Christ should be the foundation, but said other foundations can no man lay then that is laid, which is Jesus Christ, 1 Cor. 3. 11. now if any man build upon this foundation, gold, silver, precious stones, would hay stubble, every man's work shall be made manifest, now in the light art thou made manifest, that Christ is not thy foundation, who takes Paul's words out of their place, who witnessed Christ to be the foundation, but thou art found building upon this foundation, gold, silver, hay stubble and making a refuge of lies, which is for the fire, whose work is to be burned in the day of the Lord. Thou sayest wisdom is grown up to perfection, amongst Priest. that people called Quakers. In the light of Christ we dwell which comprehends thy Answ. wisdom, which is earthly sensual and devilish, and from that wisdom these things published forth in thy paper do proceed which is full of lies and confusion, but in the light of Christ made manifest in those thou call Quakers, art thou seen to be in that wisdom, which is not perfect and so thee, & thy word we do deny, which is for condemnation with the light, which is contrary to thy earthly wisdom. Thou Priest Woodall art accusing me for numbering thee Priest. amongst those who are guilty of preaching for carnal things, who reap carnal things, and this thou makes thy defence, saying this is my cause, more than seven years I have served in the Gospel, where I am receiving what a people freely give for my family, reproath in outward things refusing a considerable settled maintenance else where. Such as thou so west such shalt thou reap, and all they Answ. who have given thee money for preaching such things, as thou hast here published forth in print, they have given thee money for that which is not bread, and so bought the carnal with the carnal, but their souls are yet made merchandise of, & that unjust gain which thou hast received this seven years from that people will rise up in judgement against thee, who has not only used it for thy necessity and support in outward things, which were needful for the use of the body, but hast spent it upon thy lust and pride in thy family, spending more in lust and pride and gay apparel, than those whom thou receives the gift from, and thou who ha●h professed thyself to be a servant to that people, and they having given the ways so long for that which did not profit them, thou after the manner of the gentiles hath exercised authority and lordship over them, and where as thou shouldest be their hired servant, they call thee master, thou which should be the least of all amongst them, art greatest of all exceeding them all in pride and high mindedness in ease in pleasures in idleness and fullness of bread, but as the Lord doth open the eyes of those whom thou hast kept in blindness and ignorance, they will come to see thee and thy doctrine to be contrary unto the Gospel of Christ, as they may plainly see and read thee in those things, which thou hast published forth in print, which is servisable unto all who hath understanding that thy confusion and folly, and lies against the truth against Christ against the Saints, and against the Scriptures they may see, which hath been long hid, but now is made manifest in the light unto all, who are come to know the free teachings of God, who will no more give the money for speaking a divination of thy own brain, and not from the mouth of the Lord. Who knows not that tithes and gleebs were under that Priest. dispensation by divine law ordained for the maintinance of the priests. Here thou would make people believe that thou denies Answ. tithes which was for the maintenance of the Priests of the law, but as for the gleebs which thou speaks of there was never any such things ordained in the law, here thou hast made it appear that thou art ignorant of that which was ordained for the priest's maintenance under that dispensation, for they had no inheritance nor gleeb lands to maintain them as some of the priests of England have, and yet those priests in England, which do receive tithes, and so upholds that which thou seems to deny, yet thou owns them as thy brethren, and to be ministers of the Gospel, and here your deceit is so plainly made manifest that you accuse one another, and condemn one another all your hearts being exercised with covetous practices preaching for filthy lucre, all being 'greed together to persecute ruile and slander the pure truth of God, where it is made manifest in his servants to declare against all your deceits: that out of your snares the righteous seed of God may be delivered to testify against you & your ministry under which the seed of God is kept in bondage. Reader I have done our heavenly Father, taketh Priest. sleeping disciples at the best, Matth. 26. 41. Here thou hast uttered forth aly, that all may plainly Answ. see, which saith, thou hast done, and in the next words saith our heavenly Father taketh sleeping disciples at the best now from this Scripture in Matth. 26. 40. thy words are proved to be false, for in that condition the disciples were then in they were not at the best, who could not watch with Christ one hour and the comfortor was not then come, which afterwards they did witness and travel and labour and fasting and prayer and watching day and night, they did witness and we who do witness the same condition, now do testify against thee and all who make lies of the Apostles who did witness Jesus Christ in truth and uprightness of heart and the same Christ do we witness and doth freely preach him to every nature being made manifest to that of God in every one's conscience to be witnessed. Now as my first Query is printed in thy paper the latter Priest. part of it, I deny which was not given forth nor spoken so by me in thine, it is printed thus, how can that be said to be a natural light which witnesseth unto God, ●● against the things of the spirit of God, which is false but in mine it is written thus, how can that be said to be a natural light which witnesses unto God in that which is holy, and against the natural inclinations of fallen man seeing the scripture saith the natural man receives not the things of the spirit of God, 1 Cor. 2. 14. How as every one hath a desire to know the truth of these things, that the occasion of stumbling may be taken away, they may read the Query as it was given forth from me in the sixteen page of that printed paper, called David's enemies discovered which was put forth in print to be seen as it is there written before Woodalls paper, which is now in print was given forth, and this I have given forth that the truth may be cleared, owning that which did proceed from me and denying, that which is not mine, and as for Frederick Woodalls answer to the Queries they are replied unto in the paper above mentioned, and to the rest of this printed paper an answer is here in returned that he may not boast in his folly, but may be ashamed and repent. Now as in answer to that in the latter end of thy book which thou directs the reader unto thou seeing that thou hast holden forth these things, which thou canst not prove, as the first Adam to be the fountain of all natural good, and so to blind the eyes of people that they may not see thy , and saith thou means not primitively, and here thou speaks on thing and means another, but this covering is two narrow for thee & under it, thou canst not hid thyself but thy nakedness and shame appears to all whose eyes are opened and by them thou are seen. And where as thou wouldst cover over thy shame of that thou hast formerly spoken in telling of two images, the image of God and the image of Christ, and that the fi●st was natural and the second spiritual, and here thou speaks contrary to the Scriptures, which saith, he is the express image of the Father, and here in all who do witness the Scriptures to be true must witness against thee who speaks contrary to the Scriptures, and now to blind people's eyes, thou tells them thou understands it thus, Adam was made after the Image of God, God the Father, Son and the holy Spirit, come let us make man after our, not my image. To this I answer here thou hast added to the Scripture, for God did not say, not my image, as thou doth charge him to say, for the Scripture saith God created man in his own image in the image of God created he him, as Gen. 1. 27. & thou calls that image in which Adam was created, the essential image, and the image of Christ thou calls a personal image, and here by them who dwell in the light thou art seen out of the substance in the images making to thyself images, and likenesses from thy imaginations, but in them thou canst not know God and Christ nor the image of God in which Adam was created in innocency, and there is no such word in Scripture as essential image, and here thou goes about to make three images, and so amongst the image-makers thou art who art out of God's commands, and there thou may read thyself. But now the Lord God is gathering his own seed by his eternal light out of all images and likenesses to be conformed to the image of his Son, and to bear his image who is invisible, which all the imaginers cannot enter into, who stumble at the light, but all such are seen by the children of the light and denied for now do they witness from the Lord, the day of redemption yea plenteous redemption is now witnessed by them who dwells in the light which comprehends the world, and out of the world, and out of the world's teachings, and out of the world's ways, and out of the world's worships into the pure teachings of God & into the Covenant, where they know God & are taught of him, and no more can they be led by the blind guides for their eyes are opened which were blind & now in the light of Christ the way is seen, which leads unto God the Father of light, & in it all false prophets & false teachers they do see, & by them cannot be deceived, who come in sheep's clothing and are beautiful outwardly decked with the Saints words, but inwardly ravening Wolves, and now their covering comes to be taken off which was none of there own, and now the Wolf appears ravening against the Lambs of God, for the day hath made them manifest and of them the Lambs of God are ware, and in Innocency is preserved, and in the pure wisdom, which is not of this world in it they see and comprehend the serpent's wisdom and subtlety, and craftiness, and snares, which for the righteous seed is laid but in the eternal lightmade manifest to the seed, a way is seen out of then all, and by the eternal power of the pure living God of life deliverance out of them, all is witnessed, eternal pure living praises to him for evermore, Given forth from the Love of God, to the souls of those, who desire to know the truth to take away all stumblings, and cut of all occasions from all minds, that in the light of Christ the truth they may see to be clear from all slanders and false accusations, which from the unclean spirits proceed, which goeth out of the mouth of the Dragon to devour the innocent, but from the dragon and all his floods, the innocent is preserved, Given forth from him who a witness stands for the truth of God against all deceit Richard Hubberthorne. Written from Mendlesham in Suffolk, the 29. day of the 3. Month 1655. FINIS.