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TWO SPEECHES DELIVERED, THE ONE BY THE EARL OF MANCHESTR AND THE OTHER BY JOHN PYM Esquire, In Guild-Hall on friday the 13. of JANUARY 1642.  
LONDON, Printed for PETER COLE, 1642.   


A SPEECH Delivered by the Earl OF MANCHESTER.  
MY Lord Major and Gentlemen you of the City of London,  
this Assembly can never be looked upon by any Members of both Houses of Parliament; but there must be some offering of gratitude made to you, both of thanks and acknowledgements for your former large-hearted expressions, both of affection and care for the preservation both of the Parliament and Kingdom: The occasion why my Lords, and these Gentlemen of the House of Commons are come hither is this, They have read an Answer to an humble Petition of the Lord Major and Common-counsel and Citizens of London to His Majesty; In which Answer, They find many wounding aspersions cast upon persons of very eminent Authority in your City, and upon others of very great fidelity and trust among you; this Answer they do find as it is printed to agree with that which the Gentleman from His Majesty hath here read; And they owning themselves equally interessed (in all things that concern you) with you, have commanded this Gentleman to make some observations by way of vindication both of the proceed of both Houses of Parliament, and of the proceed of the City, with this assurance that they will never dissert you, but will stand by you with their lives and fortunes for the preservation of the City in general, and those persons in particular, who have been faithful, and deserved well, both of the Parliament and Kingdom, and they will pursue all means both with their lives and fortunes, that may be for the preservation of this City, and for the procuring of safety, happiness, and peace to the whole Kingdom.   
The Speech of this Noble Lord, being entertained with loud expressions of joy and thankfulness by the Commons; and after some time of silence being made, Mr. Pym that worthy Member of the House of Commons and Patriot of his Country, gave the sense of both Houses upon the several passages of His Majesty's Answer; expressing it in the next Page following.  

A SPEECH DELIVERED BY JOHN PYM Esquire.  
MY Lord Major, and you worthy Citizens of this noble and famous City of London,  
I am commanded by the Lords and Commons, to let you know, that in this Answer, which hath been published to you, they do observe many things of great aspersion upon the proceed of Parliament very scandalous and injurious to many particular Members of this City, whereupon they think that it becomes them, both in tenderness of their own honour, and respect to you, to take away all those aspersions, and to let you know the truth of their proceed, which have been full of honour and justice, as they stand in relation to their own duty, and full of humility, and obedience towards His Majesty, and of care for the common good, and so shall ever be; And they have commanded me to let you know the true Answer to most of those things that are imputed either to the Parliament, or to the City, by observing some particulars of This book which hath been read to you and to let you know the proceed in their own native condition, clear from those misrepresentations which make them appear in a quality much different from the truth: which before I enter into I am to declare as the Sense of both Houses that your petition was so full of Loyalty, Humility, and Obedience, that you might well have expected an Answer of another kind.  
The first Observation I am to make to you is this, that it is said here, That His Majesty was enforced by tumults to leave the Parliament, and to go from Whitehall, and to withdraw himself into those courses, which now he hath taken.  
In Answer hereunto, I am commanded to tell you, that there was no occasion given by any tumults rising out of this City or the Suburbs which might justly cause His Majesty's departure, and you may very well remember, that after His violent coming to the Commons House of Parliament in that unusual and unheard of manner (which was the beginning of these unhappy differences) that the very next day His Majesty came into the City without any Guard, that He was present in the Common-council, dined at the Sheriffs, and returned back again, with manifold evidences of fidelity on the part of the City, and without any such expressions as were unbeseeming the Majesty of a King, or the duty of Subjects; that He resided divers days at Whitehall, and afterward at Hampton-court, Windsor, and places adjoining, with small Forces about him, and yet never any attempt made which might give Him any apprehensions of fear; by all which it is manifest, that this is an unjust aspersion cast upon this City, that any tumultuous carriage of yours, was your occasion of His Majesty's leaving the Parliament and withdrawing himself to remoter parts.  
It is affirmed, that the Government of your City hath been managed by a few desperate persons, and that they do exercise an arbitrary power.] In answer to which the two Houses of Parliament gives you this testimony, that you have in most of the great occasions concerning the Government of the City, followed their direction, and that direction which they have given, and you have executed, they must & will maintain to be such as stands with their honour in giving it, and your trust and fidelity in the performance of it.  
It is objected in the third place; That Contributions have been publicly made, for the maintenance of that Army which did join Battle with the King, and did by all the means that Treason and Malice could suggest, endeavour to take away His Life, and destroy His Issue.] To this I am commanded to say, That the design of bringing up the English Armies, the gathering together of the Cavaliers about Whitehall, the violent coming to the House of Commons, the Kings going into the North, and raising Arms there, are clear evidences that violence was first intended, and divers practices were made against the Parliament, before they took any course, or made any preparation to take up arms for their defence; for the danger of His Majesty's person they were sorry for it, and did by divers humble Petitions labour to prevent it; And as touching the royal issue, they have sufficiently declared to the world, their good affections towards them, by the care they have taken both for the safety and maintenance of those who are left here.  
It is further expressed in this Answer; That the King demands the Lord Major, Master Alderman Fowke, Colonel Venus, and Colonel Manwaring, to be delivered up as guilty of Schism and high Treason.] Concerning which, I am commanded to tell you, as the sense of both Houses of PARLIAMENT, That this demand is against the privilege of Parliament (two of them being Members of the Commons House) most dishhonorable to the City, That the Lord Major of London should be subjected to the violence of every base fellow, be assaulted, seized on, without due process or Warrant, which the Law doth afford every private man; and that you should be commanded to deliver up your chief Magistrates, and such eminent Members of the City to the King's pleasure, only because they have done their duty in adhering to the Parliament, for the defence of the Kingdom, and that it is against the rules of justice, that any men should be imprisoned upon such a general charge, when no particulars are proved against them; and this you are to take notice of, as the answer to those scandals, and to that disgrace upon my Lord Major, and the other Members of the City.  
And I am further to tell you, that there is little cause for His Majesty to make this demand, considering that He Himself doth by force keep away many accused in Parliament, as my Lord Digby, and many more impeached of high Treason, besides divers others great Delinquents, that stand charged there for heinous crimes, all which by force are kept from the due proceed, and legal trial in Parliament.  
It is alleged in this Answer, That my Lord Mayor, and those other persons named, are countenancers of Brownists, and Anabaptists, and all manner of Sectaries.] To this I am commanded to say, That hereof there is no proof; It doth not appear that they give any such countenance to Sectaries of any kind whatsoever; and if it did, His Majesty hath little reason to object it, while notwithstanding the profession he hath often made, that he will maintain the Protestant reform Religion, he doth in the mean time raise an Army of Papists, who by the principles of their Religion are bound, (if power be put into their hands) to destroy and utterly to root out the Protestants together with the truth which they profess.  
It is affirmed, That men's persons have been imprisoned, and their houses plundered, because they will not rebel against His Majesty.] To this I am commanded to declare, that not men's houses have been plundered by any direction of the Parliament, but that they have been very careful to restrain all such violent courses, so far as they were able; and that they have never committed any man, but such men as by due information they conceived to be seditious persons, and like to trouble the peace of the State.  
It is objected further; That the Property of the Subject is destroyed by taking away the twentieth part by an Arbitrary power.] To this they say, That that Ordinance it doth not require a twentieth part, but doth limit the Assessors, that they shall not go beyond a twentieth part; and that this is done by a power derived from both houses of Parliament; the Lords who have an hereditary interest in making Laws in this Kingdom, and the Commons who are elected and chosen to represent the whole body of the Commonalty, and trusted for the good of the people, when ever they see cause to charge the Kingdom: And they say further, that the same Law that did enable the two Houses of Parliament to raise forces to maintain and defend the safety of Religion, and of the Kingdom, doth likewise enable them to require contributions, whereby those forces may be maintained, or else it were a vain power to raise forces, if they had not a power likewise to maintain them in that service for which they were raised.  
And to this point I am commanded to add this further answer, that there was little reason for this to be objected on his Majesty's behalf, when it is well known that from the subjects (which are within the power of his army) His Majesty doth take the full yearly value of their Lands, and in some cases more that not only particular houses, but whole Towns have been plundered by command and design; and that by Proclamations men are declared to forfeit all their estates, because they will not obey Arbitrary Commands, and this is commonly practised by His Majesty, and on his part, and therefore there was little reason to charge the Parliament with so necessary and moderate a contribution as the twentieth part.  
It is declared, That the King expects to be kept from Tumults and Affronts.] Upon which, I am commanded to observe, that His Majesty's expressions in His Answer tend to the making of a division in this City, and to the raising of a party, which may make some disturbance in that orderly government which is now established, both which will certainly prove equally destructive to him and both Houses of Parliament; and more prejudicial to his quiet abode here, than any thing that hath ever been acted by the Houses of Parliament, or the present Governors of the City.  
They observe further that in this Answer, His Majesty doth profess that He will seize upon the estates of those that shall contribute any thing towards the maintenance of the Parliaments Army, and will put them out of His protection, and by His Ministers in foreign States, will take such course, that they may be proceeded against as enemies; that is, destroyed and spoiled.] To which the LORDS and COMMONS do Declare, That this is an excess of rigour and injustice beyond all example, that particular men should lose their private estates here without law or judicial proceeding: And that our Prince who owes protection to the Kingdom, aswell as to particular persons, should suffer the wealth thereof to be rob and spoiled by foreign States; upon due consideration whereof, they hope His Majesty will be induced by better Council to forbear the execution, then that by which he hath been persuaded to publish such a Resolution.  
Besides these Observations out of the Answer, I am to observe one out of a narrative that was received from the Common Council, that the King did Declare that he would send some messengers here to observe your carriage in the City, and what was done amongst you, the Parliament have just cause to doubt, that these will be messengers of sedition and trouble, and therefore desire you to observe them and find them out, and that they may know who they are.  
I am for a conclusion to commend to your considerations, that you see by the proceed to which the King is drawn by the ill council now about Him, that Religion, the whole Kingdom, this glorious City, and the Parliament, are all in great danger, and that this danger cannot be kept off in all likelihood, but by the Army that is now a foot, and that the Lords and Commons are so fare from being frighted by any thing that is in this Answer, that they have for themselves and the Members of both Houses declared a further contribution towards the maintenance of this Army, and cannot but hope and desire, that you that have showed so much good affection in the former necessities of the State will be sensible of your own, and of the condition of the whole Kingdom, and add (to that which you have already done) some further contribution, whereby this Army may be maintained for all your safeties.   
At the end of every period of this Speech, the applause was so great, that he was fain to rest till silence was again made; and at last (the Company ready to be dissolved) after some pause and consultation with the Committee of Lords and Commons then present, and by their direction (silence being made) he closed all with the words following:  
Worthy Citizens, you have understood the sense of both Houses of Parliament, concerning my Lord Major here, and those worthy Members of your City, that are demanded; you have heard the Parliament declare, that they will protect them in that which they have done by direction of both Houses; and they expect that you should express it yourselves likewise, that if any violence be offered to them, you will secure and defend them with your uttermost force; and you shall always find, that this protection of the Parliament shall not only extend to these, but to all others that have done any thing by their command.  
Which words were no sooner uttered, but the Citizens with one joint harmony of minds and voices, gave such an acclamation as would have drowned all the former, if they had been then breathing, which after a long continuance resolved itself into this more articulate and distinct voice, We will live and die with them, We will live and die with them, and the like.  
So that in the managing of this day's work, God was so pleased to manifest himself, that the well-affected went away not strengthened only, but rejoicing; and the Malignants (as they have been called) some convinced, others silenced, many ashamed; it fully appearing how little power they had to answer their desires of doing mischief: whilst in stead of dividing the City, they were exceedingly united; in stead of a dissipation, thousands were unexpectedly brought (as it were) into an unthought of Association, to live and die in the defence of these zealous and honourable Assertors of their peace and liberties: All which we may sum up in that triumph of the man of God: In the thing wherein they dealt proudly, God was above them.   
FINIS.