THE STATE OF THE IRISH AFFAIRS, FOR THE Honourable Members OF THE HOUSES of PARLIAMENT; As they lie represented before them, from the Committee of Adventurers in London for Lands in Ireland, sitting at Grocers-Hall for that Service. LONDON, Printed by G. Miller dwelling in the Blackfriars. 1645. Reasons delivered by the Committee of Citizens, Adventurers in London for Lands in Ireland, to the Committee appointed by the Right Honourable the Lord Major, Aldermen and Common Council of the said City, to be delivered to the said Court, of their refusal to lend moneys upon security of the Ordinance of the 15th of August last, made for raising moneys for Ireland, to begin in November next, and to continue for six Months. THe Adventurers, with their moneys raised upon their first Propositions, were to have carried over a Brigade of 500 Horse, and 5000 Foot, into Munster in Ireland, against those Rebels; which business they were to have carried on by Officers chosen by themselves, whereby they had the oversight of that business, and laying out of their own Money, for the best advantage of the Service. When they had well nigh raised and armed all their Forces, and made all other Provisions fit for transportation, both their Money, and Men, and Provisions, were (upon an unavoidable occasion) made use of by the State here, upon a sudden and unexpected breaking forth of the distractions here at home, and the remain of what was not thus employed, or that hath come into their Treasuries since, have likewise been made use of by the State here, wherewith to content the Irish Officers, who have done very little or no service for all the Money that they had since. These distractions increasing, and thereupon when those Lords and Commons that were appointed by Commission, under the great Seal of England, by direction both of King and Parliament, to manage the Irish affairs, had withdrawn themselves from further meddling in the business; and when after that, a of the Honourable House of Commons, made by order of the third of September, 1642. for ordering of the Irish affairs, had acted therein so long, as that they had left no Cash in any Irish Treasury to answer their Orders; and that a general clamour of the Irish Souldiary was now upon them for pay and supplies, which they could not remedy; and a hard matter it was, by reason of the use of Monies here, to find out a means to give them satisfaction; when Bristol, Chester, and most of th' other parts of the West, were possessed by the Enemy, whereby all conveniencies for sending for Ireland were taken away, than the Adventurers in London, made more Propositions to raise more Money from among themselves, without Tax or Assessment of the Subject, to carry on that War. That thereupon an Ordinance was made, establishing those new Propositions, and to secure all such as should adventure any Money thereupon, and erecting and settling of a new Committee, consisting of some of the Members of the Honourable House of Commons, and of divers Aldermen and Merchants of London, Adventurers for Lands in Ireland, chosen out by the Body of Adventurers to manage the Irish affairs. And they were no sooner made a Committee, but the Citizens of the Committee, are persuaded to advance 20000 or thereabouts worth of Arms, Ammunition and victuals, wherewith to furnish 500 Horse, and 5000 Foot, of the British Regiments in Ulster, upon promise, that they should, being thus furnished, march out of that Province against the Rebels, into other parts of the Kingdom, having no enemy near themselves; which Goods were presently provided and delivered accordingly, yet they never did service therewith, nor at any time since, that the Committee can understand. That by the labour and industry of the Citizens of that Committee, they have procured 50000 worth of Provisions more to be sent to the Forces there, out of Holland and the Low Countries, which if they had not received, they had disbanded and quit the Country to the Enemy, or must have complied in the Cessation with the Rebels, (which had been as bad) as some of the Officers confessed. The said Committee of the Citizens also, in this time have sent 05000 worth more of Provisions thither, which were bought with the Adventurers Money. Yet they are now left in debt 05000 or thereabouts, for part of those Provisions thus advanced, and without means to give those satisfaction to whom they stand engaged; Which have been thus occasioned. For that it hath been publicly delivered to the Adventurers, at a general meeting of them, as if the Parliament intent not to perform in that Ordinance with those that have or should bring in Money for an Adventure upon it; since which time, very little or nothing hath been brought into their Treasury; and those that had subscribed upon that Ordinance, do refuse to bring in their Subscriptions. That the Irish affairs have been since carried on, for a good time together, by the of the Honourable House of Commons, of the third of September, 1642. and afterwards by the Honourable Committee of both Kingdoms, and now by the Honourable Committee of Lords and Commons for Propositions for Ireland, which have cooled and withdrawn the zeal and affections of the Adventurers and others, to bring in any more Money upon the said Ordinance of the 14th of July, 1643. seeing their Committee set aside, and to have no oversight or looking unto the managing of that business, and the disposal of their moneys; (that great sum of 400000 or thereabouts,) which they have formerly brought in, having been employed as aforesaid, without adding to them the least hope to possess their Adventures. They have been employed since, as a Subcommittee to the Honourable Committee of both Kingdoms; in which service they have faithfully performed their trust, and have informed their Lordships of all those miscarriages and failings of the Officers in the Armies in Ireland, then under the Parliaments power, and otherwise concerning those affairs; and how the State's Treasure have been wasted and consumed, and nothing done for it; with their opinions of the remedies to prevent the like misdoings for the time to come, which they having done in the birth of their employments under their Lordships, have not lately received more of their commands, (except in raising of moneys for the Service) to which they have always contributed to their powers, when they have found certain ways of reimbursement. In this time they have offered their endeavours freely, in making provisions for those Forces, out of the moneys raised and to be raised upon that Ordinance of the 16th of October, 1644. if to have been employed in a Committee way upon account; but the Officers of the Army in Ulster, and one Mr Davis an Irish man, and some Cheesemongers of this City, joining with them under hand, obtained the employments, upon Contracts and bargains made, to deliver those Provisions at certain rates; when the Committee, if to have done the same in a Committee way, would have advanced the same much sooner, and have saved the State 3000, or 7000, in 560000 of the prices allowed Davis; and though they always declined to do any thing in a way of bargaining, yet when it was pressed of necessity to be done no other way, they offered the State to do it by computation, 18000 or thereabouts, in the said 560000, under those rates that Davis offered; which not being so apprehended, he hath been the Man hath carried on all that business before him ever since; but by his leave hath failed in all his undertake, both for time, manner and matter; for albeit his agreement was, for to have delivered the Goods by 20000 the first week, and 05000 worth of Goods every week after, till the whole had been delivered, yet it was four or five month's time before he delivered any parcel, and but very lately that he delivered the last; and hath vented such base and unserviceable Commodities, as they were little worth: besides that, he and his partners did run no hazard in it at all, for he only assigned the moneys to come in, in several Counties to his respective Chapmen, for payment at long days, who took the same for satisfaction upon their own Adventures, and reserved a good share and benefit to himself; and then no doubt but they would also be Gainers by the hand, thus to trust; which must bring poor Commodities to the Market of necessity, or make his Customers but Saviours by the hand; and this beginning hath brought him to be the general undertaker and provider for whatsoever Goods have gone for the Forces of Ireland since; but in this latter bargains, he hath dealt much more securely for himself, having still fingered so much Money in hand, upon the matter, as he hath acquired the Goods withal, that if he should never get in the rest, he can be no Loser by the hand, and an extreme Gainer if to receive all, and hath made provision to be satisfied some other way, if he get it not by this way; besides that, he hath taken such ways for the delivery of the Commodities, and made such provisions for the Collections of the moneys, that he will be sure either to have it in before he shall lay it out, with a 2000, and 6d in the pound too for his pains in the collecting it, or if he fails, another Country is as good to him as this: besides that, he hath hemmed in to be paid out of these Assessments for Ireland, an old pretended Debt of 12195, which is upon matter of Account, depending before the Committee of Accounts for the Kingdoms, not yet by them allowed, and which if it shall be satisfied him, is a fortune that he hath raised in little more than Nine month's time, by the State's employments in Ireland, there trusting him with 24000 ready Money to buy the Soldier's Victuals, having no ability of his own before that time, wherewith to carry on such an Employment; and the best of his Vouchers will prove Certificates in gross from the said Colonels and Officers of that Army, for which no doubt but the common Soldiers have either made many hungry meals, or abated it out of their Commanders rents, they being most their Tenants; and therefore unwilling to go further abroad to do service, than they can bewray the smoke of their own chimneys; and yet such a Stranger as this Davis, is able thus in less than a years time, to furnish 80000 worth of Commodities for Ireland, before the Committee of Adventurers, consisting of One and thirty Aldermen and good Merchants of this City, who desire to have no such gain from the Common wealth in such distracted and necessitous times as these. The Committee of Adventurers at Grocers-Hall (out of their zeal for the Public, and care for the preservation of that Kingdom, being so nearly concerned with this, as that the welfare of either is wrapped up together in the safety and preservation of them both, more than for any benefit they expect by their Adventures) the 27th of August, 1644. did present several Propositions to the Honourable House of Commons, for raising moneys principally from among themselves, wherewith to maintain those Forces against the Cessation and the Rebels, and the same day a draught of that Ordinance (passed the 16th of October, 1644. was also presented to the Honourable House of Commons, by the Committee of that Honourable House, sitting by Order of the 3d of September, 1642. aforesaid, and both were Committed together: but the Committee of Grocers-Hall as yet, (by reason of the more weighty affairs of the Kingdom,) have received no answer concerning them; they have also divers times since renewed their humble desires therein, by several Petitions and Remonstrances, presented both to the Honourable Houses, and the Honourable Committee of both Kingdoms, for their mediation that something might be done therein, but other the great affairs of the State, hath still prevented the consideration thereof: they have lately also addressed themselves therein to the Honourable Committee of Lords and Commons, appointed for receiving of Propositions for Ireland, with whom they debated the same, and after consultation thereof amongst themselves, of the results of both Committees, their Lordships transmitted back again unto them the heads of such of their Propositions, as they thought fit for the Consideration of the Houses, desiring that the body of Adventurers might be called together, to advise with the Committee thereupon, and to certify them what Moneys they would advance, and what other encouragements they would give, to move the Houses to incline to pass them: and thereupon the Adventurers did meet accordingly, and upon debate thereof amongst themselves, did return the same back again to the said Honourable Committee of Lords and Commons for Propositions for Ireland, with some small alterations; and withal did return unto their Lordships the humble Petition of the Committee and Body of the most principal Adventurers of the City, signed with many of their hands; offering upon the credit of such an Ordinance to pass presently, to have advanced 30000 in Money, and such Provisions as should be ordered to be sent for relief of those Forces, and that they did not doubt but thereby to make all further supplies for carrying on that War in Munster, and that those Forces being well supplied and maintained (under God) might be a great and ready means, quickly to reduce all that Kingdom under the power of the Parliament; and praying their Lordships to recommend that their Petition, with the said Propositions to the Honourable Houses to be considered accordingly; but all this notwithstanding, the Adventurers cannot understand that the same have been delivered to the Houses accordingly. But now since the Right Honourable the Lord Major, have heretofore been desired to summon a meeting of all the Adventurers, and that it might be propounded unto them to lend 7000, or more Money upon the Credit of this other Ordinance lately passed, for raising moneys for Ireland, by another Assessment for six Months more, to begin in November next; at which meeting some of that Honourable Committee were present, and upon debate thereof it was not thought fit to be done; and indeed both the Committee and Body of Adventurers having formerly been treated with to that purpose, both before and since the passing of that Ordinance, did give their opinions, that if it should pass, as things than stood, and yet do stand, it could hardly be expected that moneys would be advanced upon it, for divers reasons then given; and since the passing it, Commissioners of the Citizens are named, without the privity of the Adventurers, to go for Munster in Ireland to act for the City there, which never had, nor hath any particular engagement in that part of the Kingdom, the Adventurers hoping they shall have their own Choice, of such as they shall employ there, concerning their Adventures. And the Reasons that moved the Committee of Grocers-Hall heretofore, and yet doth, to refuse the lending of any Money, upon this Ordinance of the 15th of August, 1645. were, and are these following. viz. First, The said Ordinance doth revive a former Ordinance of the 18th of October, 1644. and the Committee have never yet seen or understood of any such Ordinance made, but of an Ordinance made the 16th of October, 1644. to which this Ordinance hath no relation; and if there be no such Ordinance of the 18th of October, 1644. then this Ordinance of the 15th of August, 1645. hath lost its effect, and cannot revive that which never had a being. Secondly, To revive an Ordinance to have continuance for a longer time, after its expiration, without more words to express the intent and power thereof, to make new Levies, etc. may admit of a dispute, what is meant by this word (Reviving) standing thus alone, and may well be construed only to intent the Levying of such moneys thereupon, as have not been collected within the time of its being and continuance, and in such a Case is no foundation of Credit, to engage for borrowing of Money. Thirdly, Admitting these exceptions were out of doors, (yet then there is a proviso, that all Arrearages which shall be due and unlevied for the Weekly assessments upon the said Ordinance of the 18th of October, 1644. (if any such be) for the time of Continuance first limited therein, the same shall be levied, brought in and paid to the Treasurer's according to the Ordinance, and that the same shall be disposed and issued out for the discharge of the Orders and Contracts made with the Houses of Parliament, or the Committee of the two Kingdoms, in pursuance of the said Ordinance; which shows, that the word, Reviving, in the Ordinance of the 15th of August, 1645. is meant of Levying what is behind and unpaid of that Ordinance at the time of its expiration, and mentions nothing of any new Levy or Assessment to be made, and so is conceived no such security to borrow Money upon as is propounded. Fourthly, The Ordinance of the 16th of October, 1644. made for an Assessment thorough the Kingdom of England, and Dominion of Wales, for the present Relief of the British Armies in Ireland, should raise above 300000 in all places; and that there is 1000 charged upon it, first for relieving the British Regiments in Ulster; and Mr John Davis hath obtained another reviving Ordinance of it, of the 27th of September, 1645. to satisfy him the sum of 36945 more, so it is charged with 116945 in all; of this, 2250000 is only yet come into the Treasury, that there is 66945 yet to be levied, and this must be levied the first; and who will lend Money, to expect it after the levying and payment of such a Sum, and to put it to a hazard; whenas a man may lend out his Money, and have 8 per cent. for it, to be repaid in his own time, and to have as good security as the Kingdom can afford? Fifthly, If only 2250000 of 300000 have been brought in, in a years time, and at the first beginning, when men were better able and disposed to the work, and this done by the earnest and continual solicitation of Mr Davis, and of his Emissaries and Creditors that are so concerned in it, and have acted it to the life; what can be conceived must follow of these Assessments in the later end of the day, when men are more and more exhausted in their estates, and who now do fall short to satisfy those Assessments (in as great a proportion) of maintenance of General Fairfax Army, and of the Scots Army in England, which are for their immediate and more necessary preservation, and the subduing of an Enemy here at home? Sixtly, The people begin generally to understand the ill carriage of Mr Davis, and his fellow Cheesemongers in this business, and that they hunt after these bargains, to raise themselves fortunes this way, and care not how they deceive the Common wealth, so they may enrich themselves, and put the Money into their own purses; which not only makes the people unwilling, but many of them wilful to refuse the payment of these moneys, which many of them do apprehend thus may be cast away; and are not a little troubled, to see the Citizens of London, men of worth and integrity, unemployed in the service; and such a poor fellow as Davis, and a mere stranger, vaulting himself herein against the whole City. For these Reasons, the Committee of Adventurers at Grocers-Hall, as heretofore, so do now again desire to be excused for lending of any moneys upon the Terms propounded, which they desire may be delivered to the Right Honourable the Lord Major, Aldermen and Common-council, as their sense and answer to their demands. And now albeit they are not desirous to draw employment, and the burden of more business upon themselves, yet for the good and benefit of the Commonwealth, and the better safety and preservation of the Kingdom of Ireland, so nearly concerned with this; if the Houses of Parliament might be moved yet to consider of their Propositions, and to pass them into an Ordinance, in such way as they shall think fit, that so a ground and sure foundation may be laid, not only to relieve those Forces in Munster for the present, but to maintain and carry on that War there. Upon the Credit of such an Ordinance, they shall yet be willing to advance the 30000 so formerly undertaken, and carefully to provide for continual supplies to be made for the future; and will freely bestow their greatest care and industry, to husband things for the best benefit and advantage of the Service, without expectation of benefit or reward; and doubt not but in such case (under God) to render the Parliament a good Account of that Province in a short time; which is especially considerable (as the State of the affairs of that Kingdom now stands at present) that it be secured of all the rest, both against the Rebels within itself, and the Enemy that may invade it suddenly from abroad. They have likewise hereunto annexed the Copies of those heads of their said Propositions and of their Petition, the Originals remaining with the said Committee of Lords and Commons, which were, as they conceive, once heretofore agreed upon by the said and body of Adventurers, to have been presented to the Honourable Houses of Parliament for their consideration: and it is the humble suit of this Committee, that the Right Honourable the Lord Major, Aldermen and Common-council, would yet be pleased, if they shall so think fit, to interpose their mediation to the Honourable Houses of Parliament, that the same may be considered accordingly, and in such way as they shall think fit. Die Veneris 24ᵒ Octobris, 1645. At the Committee of Adventurers in London for Lands in Ireland, sitting at Grocers-Hall. Resolved upon the Question (nemine contradicente) That the Reasons aforesaid, this day several times read and debated, why this Committee cannot lend any Money upon the Ordinance for the continuation of the Weekly Assessment for Ireland, be presented to morrow morning to the Committee of Common-council (appointed to treat with this Committee about the raising of moneys for Ireland) to be by them presented to the Right Honourable the Lord Major, Aldermen and Common-council of this City of London at their next meeting. Signed by Order and Command of the said Committee, by Rich. Deacon Clerk to the said Committee. Die Mercurij, 23ᵒ Julij, 1645. ITt is now thought fit and resolved by this Committee, That the Earl of Kent, the Lord Howard of Eskrigg, Mr Jephson, Mr Knightley, Mr Rigby, and Mr Lisle, or any two of them, be desired to take into their consideration, and to treat and debate concerning the draught of the Ordinance presented to the House of Commons, from the Committee at Grocers-Hall for the affairs of Ireland; And the said Committee at Grocers-Hall, are desired to take notice hereof, and to appoint a competent Number of them to be present at such treaty and debate, on Friday next, at three of the clock in the afternoon, in the Chambers called the Queen's Court in Westminster. William Jephson. Die Jovis 24ᵒ Julij, 1645. At the Committee of Adventurers in London for Lands in Ireland. IT is ordered, That Alderman Warner, Alderman Kendricke, Alderman Avery, Jerom Alexander, Major Thomas Chamberlain, Michael Herring, John Dethicke, George Thomason, and Samuel Langham, Members of the Committee, be entreated to meet at the Still-yard, to morrow, being Friday the 25th of this instant July, by Eleven of the Clock in the forenoon, to go then presently unto Westminster, to attend the Committee of Lords and Commons, appointed for receiving of Propositions for the affairs of Ireland, according to their desires, expressed by their Order of the 23th of July instant; to consider, treat and debate together, concerning the draught of an Ordinance presented by the Committee to the Honourable House of Commons, of certain ways and means proposed for the relief of Ireland, and especially for the Province of Munster; And the said Members of the Committee, are earnestly desired, that they would not fail herein at this time, forasmuch as it is hoped this meeting may prepare some good means for relief of that Kingdom. Rich. Deacon, Clerk to the said Committee. Die Sabbati, 26ᵒ Julij, 1645. IT is now Ordered by the Committee, that Sr William Brereton, and Colonel Jephson, be desired to communicate to the Committee of Irish Adventurers at Grocers-Hall, the paper of Propositions concerning Ireland now agreed on, as fit to be presented to the Houses of Parliament; and thereupon to desire them to summon the Body of Adventurers together, and to take their resolution, what inducements and motives shall be on their parts offered to the Parliament, to incline them to grant the same, either by way of undertaking, or otherwise, William Brereton, William Jephson. The heads of an Ordinance to be prepared for the supply of the Forces in Munster, with the Amendments. 1. THat the Ordinance of the 14th of July, 1643. confirmed as well for the benefit of those that have already paid in, as that hereafter shall pay the value of a fourth part more of their Subscriptions. Secondly, To require the payment of such moneys as have been underwritten formerly, and not paid in. Thirdly, That where the Subscribers themselves cannot pay in their moneys subscribed for a fourth more; that in every such case, any other of the Adventurers in the first place may do it in his stead, or any other person in the second place; and to receive such benefit by the payment of such moneys, as should have accrued to such an Adventurer, if he had p●●● it in himself. Fourthly, That for the better encouragement of the Adventurers, so much of the City of Cork●, and Towns Corporate of Kingsale and Youghall, as belong to the Rebels, be presently exposed and set to sale, to such of the Adventurers in the first place, and others in the next place, as shall desire to purchase the same, together with such Lands as lie adjacent and contiguous to the said City and Towns respectively; for which houses and Lands, the purchasers shall pay four years' purchase, to be sold and disposed by Commissioners indifferently to be appointed by the Parliament, whose rule shall be (in reference to the said four years' purchase) as the said houses and Lands respectively were worth in Anno 1640. or three years before; and that such as shall adventure herein, shall not only have the same houses and Lands delivered presently to them in possession, but shall have their former adventures also set out unto them in that Province of Munster by the said Commissioners, presently as the Lands shall be conquered from the Rebels. Fiftly, That there shall be provision to pay such Debts of the said Committee, as they have contracted in making provisions for the Sevice of Ireland (not exceeding 05000)) the same to be paid out of the moneys to be advanced by this Ordinance. Sixthly, That power be granted for the receiving of all such moneys, Arms, Ammunition and Provisions, as have been formerly raised by the Adventurers, and now lie in other men's hands unreceived and undisposed of, to be employed in that service. Seventhly, That four Ships or Friggots, not exceeding 1000 Tun, be assigned to attend the Coasts and Harbours in the Province of Munster; and such lawful prizes and spoils as they shall take, to be disposed of by such Commissioners as the Parliament shall send, for the better support of the Forces there. Eighthly, That the Committee shall have power to engage the Ordinance for raising of present moneys, from time to time as occasion shall require. Ninethly, That the Committee and Body of Adventurers shall have power from time to time, to alter, change or supply any of their Committee from amongst themselves, as they shall think fit. Tenthly, That an Ordinance be past, for the Assessing and raising by a Tax throwout this Kingdom, in a proportionable rate to every Householders estate, the value of one meal every Month, which shall be spared upon the Fast days hereafter to be kept, in regard that the Monthly Fast was first instituted in respect of the miseries of Ireland. Eleventhly, That the Committee appointed and to be appointed, shall be always ready to give an account to the Houses of Parliament, of their do from time to time, when they shall be thereunto required. Twelfthly, That an Ordinance may pass, that such as are able and have plentiful estates, and have done nothing, or very little to assist the Parliament and Common wealth, but have obscured themselves from bearing the common burdens of the Kingdom all this while; that power may be given to the said Committee, fairly to treat with them to subscribe something with the willing party, and contribute herein; which if they shall obstinately and wilfully refuse to do, that in such case they may be compelled to subscribe some reasonable sum, answerable to their estates, to help to do the work withal, as others, and to have the same benefit as others. TO THE Honourable House of Commons in this present Parliament assembled, The Humble Petition of the Committee and Body of Adventurers in London for Lands in Ireland sitting at Grocers-Hall. Showing, THat ever since the Parliament, by their Ordinance of the 14th of July, 1643. was pleased to make them a Committee to act in the Irish affairs, they have employed the utmost of their endeavours to serve the Commonwealth in that business, and are ready to give an Account of their Actions therein, which they are well assured, upon examination, will render them free and clear from all neglect of duty and service in whatsoever they have been trusted. But it hath been their unhappiness in this time, for want of further power and trust, that they have not been so serviceable as they desired, and as otherwise they could have been. And many months since, they humbly presented to this Honourable Assembly their Petition, together with certain Propositions for raising moneys for the better carrying on of that War, and whereof several times since th●y have been, by their other Remonstrances and supplications, besought the consideration, which by the interposition of more weighty affairs have till this time ●ven by. And now lately they have again addressed themselves herein unto the Honourable Committee of Lord and Commons, for receiving and preparing of Propositions for the Honourable Houses for this Service, and who upon the debate hereof have been pleased to approve of so much thereof, as your Petitioners do humbly conceive they have already, or do shortly intent to present to this Honourable Assembly to be considered. Your Petitioners do apprehend the Province of Munster in that Realm, and consequently that Kingdom, is now at present in great danger to be lost, without timely supplies, and provisions to be made for to maintain those Forces for the future. And they further crave leave, humbly to present their sense and opinions of this present affair (always with submission to your graver judgements) that if these Propositions shall be thought fit to be framed into an Ordinance, to pass both the Honourable Houses of Parliament; then your Petitioners, upon the credit thereof, will advance 30000 in Money, and Provisions for the Service, and in such reasonable time as the exegencie of the occasion, and this Honourable House shall require the same. And are confident from time to time, to make all such further supplies for maintenance of the Forces there in that Province, by this means, as will not only render the same wholly under your power, but probably (under God) may be a great occasion to reduce those Rebels to their obedience, and subject all that Realm under the Parliaments command. All the Adventurers also, and others with them alike concerned in that Kingdom, will thus undoubtedly be abundantly satisfied and encouraged, with chieerfulness to contribute and lay out themselves yet more in this affair; and the Parliament will be freed from much trouble and care otherwise for to make provisions for that service for the future and time to come. The lives of many thousands of poor Protestants, our friends and brethren, will thus be there preserved, and this Kingdom delivered from a bloodthirsty Enemy, which otherwise will daily infest us here at home, both by sea and land. The honour of this Nation will be thus still preserved, in maintaining our interests there, which our Ancestors heretofore have purchased, and for many hundreds of years maintained, with the expense of much Treasure and blood. The Parliament and its party will be hereby exceedingly strengthened, and their Adversaries extremely weakened, both in their present hopes, power and assistance, both there and from abroad. The Protestant party throughout Christendom, will the rather also be encouraged to join with us in this great work of Reformation, and a fruitful and good Land will thus again ere long be repeopled, to live under the Sunshine of the Gospel, where otherwise Popery and superstition will be planted, to the great dishonour of Almighty God, and the great discomfort of the Nation to succeeding generations. Your Petitioners will thus also save very much to the State, both in the prices and goodnesses of such provisions as shall be necessarily sent for that Service, and will do the same in time as readily, and much more satisfactorily to the people, than any particular men shall possibly be able to undertake and do; All which they humbly pray this Honourable Assembly to consider accordingly. And they shall pray, etc. Decemb. 11. 1645. At the Committee appointed to consider of the Reasons for not lending Money for Ireland. ORdered that Richard Deacon Clerk to the Committee of Grocers-Hall, do bring or send to morrow at two of the Clock in the afternoon, to this Committee sitting in the Queen's Court, all the Books and Papers remaining in his custody concerning the Irish affairs, since the 19th of June, 1643. Franc. Thorpe. To the Worshipful Fr. Thorpe, Esquire, sitting in the Chair of the Committee of the Honourable House of Commons, appointed to consider of the Reasons for not lending Money for Ireland, these present. SIR, WE have seen your Order of the 11th of this instant December, requiring our Clerk Mr Richard Deacon, to bring or send all the Books and Papers remaining in his custody, concerning the Irish affairs, since the Nineteenth of June, One thousand six hundred Forty and three: And being ready to submit to the Honourable House of Commons in all their commands, it hath caused us to look into their Order of the Eighth of this instant, whereby you are made a Committee, and wherain we find not any thing mentioned to that purpose; nor do we conceive how our Books and writings should make any discoveries of those matters within your direction; but if we shall understand from you wherein they or we may serve you and the public, we shall be ready to attend with whatsoever shall conduce to the service; praying you to be informed, that all these which you desire from us, do now lie under Command of the Committee of Accounts of the Kingdoms, as our vouchers, to justify us and our Accounts, delivered in before them, for the receipts and disbursements of such Moneys, as have come into our Treasury, and are those things, by which we must answer our proceed, in whatsoever we have been trusted; and therefore we hope, you will not conceive it reasonable, that we should denude ourselves thereof, having daily use of them also, about matters and Questions in things which we have transacted, and do frequently use them at our public meetings, and without which we cannot discharge our duties, nor that Service committed to us. Nor do we further apprehend ourselves concerned in the matters of your inquiry, unless you shall think fit to enjoin us to a new debate of the Propositions before you, formerly agreed upon between the Honourable Committee of Lords and Commons for Propositions, and us and the Body of Adventurers for raising moneys to carry on the War in Munster in Ireland; which, with submission to your better judgements, we humbly do conceive already fully digested, and made fit for the Resolution of the Houses, and which we do humbly pray you would be pleased to move for that purpose, we being no ways able to add or alter any thing, in, or to them, being still ready to obey the Parliaments pleasure, in whatsoever they shall determine upon them. And for what is contained in the Reasons mentioned in your Order, was delivered by us only to the Lord Major, Aldermen and Common-council of the City of London, as our sense then; and why we refused to lend the 7000 desired upon credit of the Ordinance of the 15th of August last; against which we object nothing, but what ariseth merely out of the frame and construction of the Ordinance itself: and upon the Ordinance of the 16th of October, 1644. made for raising 1000 for relief of the British Forces in Ireland, to which that other Ordinance of the 15th of August doth relate: and the Ordinance of the 27th of September, 1645. which Ordinances if you shall be pleased for to peruse with the Reasons, is all that we can say as to that particular; and whether substantial or not, are no more but our apprehensions why we desire to be excused in lending the Money. And for so much in those Reasons as doth concern Mr Davis and his Partners, their failings, deceits and frauds used in the matters of their contracts made with the State, which is all we intended more in those Reasons; it is all matter of Account, and examinable by the Committee of the Accounts of the Kingdom, and now depending before them, from whom no doubt but you may be fully satisfied in all things that concerneth that business; which their Certificate and Examinations delivered in to the Honourable House of Commons, and mentioned in your Order concerning him directly pointed at▪ the contracts, orders and proceed of all which business concerning Mr Davis and his partners, are remaining recorded with Mr Fr●st Secretary to the Honourable Committee of both Kingdoms, and not with us; from whom also you may at pleasure receive all satisfaction in them that you can desire. And more than in these things we understand not at present, whereof you desire to be satisfied; and for which we crave your pardon, if we have been too long in the relation, and to assure you there is nothing in which we will be wanting to serve you and the public. Signed in the Name, and by Order of the Committee for Irish affairs at Grocers-Hall, by D A. WATKINS. Grocers-Hall, 16th Decem. 1645. TO THE Honourable House of Commons in this present Parliament assembled, The Humble Petition of the Committee of Adventurers in London for Lands in Ireland, sitting at Grocers-Hall. Showing, THat your Petitioners are informed, that the Right Honourable the Lord Major, Aldermen and Commons of the City of London in Common-council assembled, have presented to this Honourable Assembly, certain Reasons given in by your Petitioners to that Honourable Court (upon conference with a Committee of them appointed to ●eat with your Petitioners) why they could not lend the 7000 desired upon security of the Ordinance of the 15th of August, 1645. for raising Moneys for the relief of Ireland▪ together with certain Propositions agreed upon by the Honourable Committee of Lords and Commons for Propositions for Ireland, and your Petitioners, and the Body of Adventurers, to be presented to the Parliament, of divers ways prescribed for raising moneys 〈◊〉 that Service. Wherein your Petitioners only intent two things, the raising moneys to ●●rry on that War for the future, by the Propositions, and the discovery of s●v●●all gross failings, frauds and deceits, by Mr John Davis and his Part●●●● in making Provisions for Ireland, wherein your Petiti●●●●● aim at 〈◊〉 but the good of the S●●te, and that the Parliament may be truly in●●●●ed thereof. And therefore they humbly pray, that this Honourable Assembly, will in the first place be pleased, to take the said Propositions into consideration, and debating them, resolve upon them, what in your grave judgements you shall think fit; which having been debated and agreed upon by the Committees and body of Adventurers aforesaid, do humbly conceive, they want only your Resolutions upon them: And they are humble suitors yet further, that some Commissioners from this Honourable House, and of such others as you shall think fit, may be presently sent for the Provinces of Munster and Ulster, to order things there upon the place; and that howsoever some course may be presently prescribed for raising moneys to carry on that War this next Summer; which they the rather importune, for that they are certified from one of your Commissioners, at this time in the Province of Ulster, that if 50000, the most in Money, the rest in Ammunition and Artillery, may be sent them before March next, an Army of 10000 Horse and Foot will be ready to take the field there by that time, and (under God) shall be able to give a good account of all that part of the Kingdom, before the next Summer ended; and to use his own phrase (make it as safe living in those parts, as in any the Associated Counties of England) pressing for Money principally in this Case, for that therewith they can buy as much Victuals for 6 8d, or 7, as the Parliament now gives Mr Davis 16; and Cloth for 8 the yard, which is furnished to the Officers at 18 per yard, and so in other things. And forasmuch as all that your Petitioners have alleged against Mr Davis and his Partners, is matter of Account, breach of Undertaking, and fraud and practice in deceiving the State, in those things which have been committed to their trust, and all which lies in examination before the Committee of Accounts of the Kingdoms, and do consist in many particulars; that therefore you will be pleased, for that part thereof also, to require the said Committee of Accounts, speedily to examine and certify the same to this Honourable Assembly. And forasmuch as the said Mr Davis and his Partners, have already received above 50000 of the moneys ordered them for their satisfaction, which is a very competent Sum, to this time for what they have delivered; that you will therefore give order to the Treasurers of Grocers-Hall, if you shall so think fit, that they do hereafter reserve such moneys in their hands, as shall come in upon those Ordinances, out of which they should be satisfied what is behind, until these matters shall be fully heard and determined, that so the Parliament may have in deposito wherewith to be recompensed for these miscarriages and losses, when they shall appear, and which will be a mean in such case, to draw the same to a speedy end. And forasmuch as Sr John Clotworthy, Knight, one of the Members of this Honourable Assembly, hath received 5000 or thereabouts, of the States and adventurers Money, and is much doubted that he can give no good account thereof; and which matter also, as your Petitioners have heard, do lie before the said Committee of Accounts examined: Therefore for the just repair and vindication of the Gentleman, and for satisfaction of your Petitioners, and of all the world, how he hath disposed of the moneys, Goods and Provisions he hath received for the Forces in Ireland. They also humbly pray, that this Honourable House would be likewise pleased, to require the said Committee of Accounts of the Kingdoms, to certify this Honourable Assembly the true state of his account, and whatsoever matters and things lieth before them dependent thereupon, that so you may proceed to do therein also as in your grave wisdoms you shall think fit: And they shall pray, etc. Da. Watkins, by order of the Committee. Reasons delivered by the Adventurers in London for Lands in Ireland, for to maintain the Equity of their Propositions, Presented to the Honourable Houses of PARLIAMENT, for the better carrying on the War in Ireland. THey did propound them, almost two years since, in more perilous times, when that Kingdom was even gasping for life, and in Cessation with the Rebels, all the parts of it but Ulster; and when this Kingdom was in a very sad and calamitous condition, in great danger to have been destroyed by a potent enemy, and with much labour working out supplies for the support of itself at home, and which they have pursued ever since, with many more than twenty Petitions and Remonstrances to the Parliament and their Committees, to have gained consideration, which the great affairs of this Kingdom hath still prevented, till this time; the said Committee of Grocers-Hall having procured much relief in the interim to the Soldiers in Ulster, which hath kept them together, and since to the Soldiers in Munster, that they have declared themselves for the Parliament; or otherwise they have confessed, that whole Kingdom was in great danger to have been yielded up and lost; which proves the reality of the Committees affections, and that their labours have not been fruitless, nor to have been biased to any other ends, than the mere good of the Kingdoms. There is not any of the said Propositions, which doth generally charge the people by Tax or Assessment, but are all in effect arbitrary and of benevolence, a matter considerable, to ease the Subject what possible may be in these times, when their estates are so much weakened and exhausted, as that they are very hardly able to pay such Taxes and Contributions as are charged upon them, merely necessary for to support the burdens of the Commonwealth at home, saving that one only Proposition which is desired to compel the ill affected, that have obscured and estranged themselves all this while from assisting the Parliament and this Cause, with their purses and persons, having done very little, or not in proportion to their estates as others, and whose greatest injury in this constraint, will be but to compel them unto an act for their own advantage; and that they now join with the good party, to carry on the War there, in a time more nearer to the benefit to be received for their disbursements, and wherein they shall, with more visible hopes, partake of that which hath been all this time preserved to such a day of good expectation, by those that have made conscience to save their Country from ruin, with the expense and hazard of their lives and fortunes. They are all Propositions tending to the maintenance of that War, the more speedy reducing of those Rebels to their obedience, the reestablishment of that Government once again in peace and quiet, and the better peopling and civilising of that Realm, for which all should possibly contend, and lay down those ways and means that have the greatest likelihood and appearance to effect a good and speedy plantation of that Kingdom, with a religious people, in the place and stead of that Idolatrous Nation the Irish Rebels. For which purpose, if there may be raised a considerable revenue to the Crown, to support its own burden, though with some assistance and help from hence now in the beginning; if such ways and courses may be taken, as may the soon bring all the three Kingdoms, all to be as one Nation and people, and may the speediest secure it from danger of an enemy, is without all peradventure of the greatest consideration. Which to effect and bring to pass, is by engaging all the three Kingdoms together by all possible ways and means, and all the Protestant party in Christendom in one common bond and union, that will submit to our form of government in Church, and the Civil State; and if the Parliament should give those Lands freely to men thus qualified and undertaking (always reserving such a good revenue to the Crown thereout, as aforesaid) must questionless do this with the most speed and security. How can it be then reasonably objected, against those that have and shall not only adventure considerable sums of Money, to carry o● the Wa●●e there at present, but agree to secure great rents unto the Crown for their Lands for the future, to have whatsoever proportions of the Rebel's estate●, they shall upon such terms acquire and undertake to plant? Upon which grounds, will it not be very advantageous to the Commonwealth, if to condescend to all such Propositions as shall thus do this wor●e: As first, that the Adventurer, that brings in ready Money, have the priority to be satisfied; next, that the Soldier may be allowed all, or part of hi● pay, and entertainment out of these Rebels Lands at least; and next, those Protestant's of other Nations, that will Adventure and set down with us upon these conditions, that those poor Protestants of Ireland, who have been despoiled of their estates there by the Rebels, and many thousands 〈◊〉 their lives, their heirs and assigns have not only restitution of what have been thus forcibly taken from them, but satisfaction for such damages also as they have sustained, out of the estates of those Rebels by whom they have thus suffered, which would cause thousands to return, that otherwise will not; and if those Merchants of London and elsewhere, that have lost their debts by the Rebellion there, paying some Money more at present, may have a share also of the Rebels Lands for all: And if those Counties, Cities and Towns Corporate, which shall pay any moneys towards the support of this War, hereafter may have proportions of Lands also assigned unto them for th● whole moneys they shall disburse, the revenue thereof to be for maintenance of their common Charges, would not this, in all likelihood, suddenly plant the place, and make it become a flourishing Commonwealth? Besides that, by these means that Kingdom will be thus furnished with Freeholders' for to put the Laws in execution, and for bringing of those Rebels unto condign punishment, of which otherwise there will for a long time be a great want to carry on the Legal affairs of that Commonwealth; it may thus also be so ordered, that Thousands of the poor Natives of that Land, may be soon brought to conformity in Religion and manners with us, and all their youth be transplanted hither from time to time, and here b●ed up and educated in good Nurture, and others exchanged and sent from 〈◊〉 in their rooms and steads to inhabit there, and all maintained by the 〈◊〉 ●nd profits of those Lands; and thus in a short time, make that place to be as civil and fruitful every way as this our mother Kingdom. And he that doth well understand that government, ●●st confess, that the planting of that place heretofore by little and little, 〈…〉 of that Commonwealth, for 〈◊〉 they thus 〈…〉 together with the Idolatrous Inhabitants of the Land, and by making marriages, and otherwise joining with them, many of them have been suddenly perverted in their Religion, and scarce one of a Family hath continued Protestants to a second Generation; and than it hath been observed, that such Proselytes once made, have proved the most despiteful and pernicious of all the rest to a general reformation. The Governors also of that Realm, for the most part heretofore, having so great power put into their hands, have been so lifted and puffed up with the conceit and opinion of their greatness, that they have commonly forgotten their errand, and for what end they were placed there; and have been misled to all injustice and oppression of the people, to make themselves and their followers rich and honourable, out of the ruins and destruction of the subject, and therefore the government have been observed to be more prosperous and happy, when it hath been by more Justices, then by any one Deputy, or Lord Lieutenant of the Kingdom. They have therefore humbly offered their sense and apprehension, that the Government there in the Parliaments power, be now rather ordered by Commissioners in the Provinces upon the place, then by any Lord Lieutenant or Deputy, not only for the Reason's aforesaid, but in respect also, that the Metropolitan City of Dublin, the usual place of Residence and abode of all the Chief Governors of that Kingdom heretofore, is not at present under the Parliaments power, where the Supreme Courts of Law and equity of ●hat Realm are usually kept, and where all the Parliaments Rolls and other Records of that Kingdom are remaining and upon Record, by which that whole government have been ever ordered and carried on, and without which it is not possible for any Lord Lieutenant, Deputy or Chief Governor for to ex●rcise that authority in its fullness, and with such prosperous success and effect as is hearty desired, nor so to manage such a power, as that he can equally and with justice, determine and decide such controversies and debates, as will assuredly arise in judgement before him there, for want of such Records, and whereof if the Rebels should by any stratagem or strength of arms become Musters and possessed, no doubt but whatsoever thereof doth make against them, would quickly be canceled and defaced, and of what dangerous consequence that must inevitably prove unto this Crown and State, may be easily understood; and therefore whiles there is hopes for to reduce or bring the same again under the Parliaments power, all ways and means would be used to make that place secure the first; besides that it stands situate for correspondence with England and the other parts of that Kingdom, the most convenient, and between the other Provinces, that no Deputy or these Governors, to be sent into any other Province now in obedience to the Parliament, can possibly hold such intelligence, and keep such compliance with the other parts of that Realm, as is necessary to carry on such a government; besides that, so great a Minister of State must be maintained in a port and degree like that which he represents, or it will subject his person and authority unto contempt; and if it shall come short of that Eminency accustomed to those that have swayed the Government before, it may be observed with disadvantage and much detriment to the proceed every way. Nor is it 50000, as 'tis humbly conceived, will furnish one out to such an undertaking; which Money to be employed for payment of the Soldier, will furnish 10000 Horse, and Foot into the Field there this next Summer, from out of the Province of Ulster, as is certified by the Commissioners from thence, with great expectation to reduce and settle all that part of the Kingdom in quiet: besides that, it is apprehended, that the Military Government in the Province of Ulster there, is by the Parliament already settled under the Command of his Excellency the Earl of Leven, where the Soldiers and Inhabitants are the most of them his Country men, and will undoubtedly be more ready and willing to fight under a General of their own Nation; and little else there is there to do for Civil affairs, which the Commissioners already sent, and more that may be sent from hence by the Parliament, may not easily perform, and save all this vast charge of a Deputy into the bargain: And for Munster, the Lord Inchiquin being made Lord Precedent of that Province by the Parliament already, in whose power both the Marshal and Civil Government being placed there, and he being a man, of whose fidelity the Parliament have had such an approved assurance, if he shall have some Commissioners also joined with him, and sent thither for carrying on the War there, will be abundantly sufficient to answer whatsoever can be expected for managing the affairs in that Province, which of all other is a place the most considerable, and with all possible speed for to be supplied, as not only being the best part of that Kingdom, and most advantageous for this every way, but is more open and liable to the invasion of a foreign Enemy, and which will be the first part they will undoubtedly attempt; and those supplies which the Pope hath lately sent unto them of Money, Arms and Ammunition, with many other things of like consideration, do clearly manifest a confederation of the Romish Catholic party throughout Christendom to assist those Rebels, against which therefore now timely provision would be made while it is to day. And as these were some motives in the general, that induced the Adventurers to disburse their moneys for that service, and so earnestly for to contend for the safety and preservation of that Kingdom, so for the particular of their Propositions, they were carried on to propose them for some other reasons also inducing them thereunto; as, In the first place, to have a Confirmation of the Ordinance of the 14th of July, 1643. for such cause as in their reasons herein aforesaid is mentioned. And do humbly propose the second, as a thing of greatest equity, that those who have underwritten, and not paid in their Money, should bring it in as others, to help to carry on the War, and is but to turn that into an Ordinance for this purpose, which the Houses of Parliament heretofore, after many debates, agreed to be just, and drew up into an Act of Parliament, and sent unto his Majesty for his Royal assent, which he refusing, have not therefore taken away the justness of the Law. And do propose the third, as beneficial to the Service, and in no sort prejudicial unto any; for as it shall not lose the first Subscriber any thing, so it will bring in more Money and more Adventurers, both to help to carry on the work, and to plant the Kingdom, when the War is done; and the more that are engaged in the undertaking, must of necessity be most advantageous to the cause in general. And do propose the fourth, as a great expedient in this affair, to reduce those Rebels to their obedience the sooner, for now to grant the Rebels Lands and Estates in these Cities and Towns mentioned in the Proposition, upon condition to be presently planted, will not only bring in a good people to dwell amongst them, and moneys to help to maintain the War; but will exceedingly strengthen the proceeding, and encourage the Soldier to have his Country men, and those of his own Religion, in whom he may confide and trust thus about him, and to whom he may retire for comfort and refreshment, when he is wearied out with service, but will supply unto them many wants also there at home, which now they cannot purchase, when they have wherewithal so to do; it will also more fortify those parts, when every such Planter, for his own security and the enjoyment of his purchase, will store and supply himself with men, Arms and necessaries, for to maintain his possession and inheritance. And do propose the fift as most just and reasonable, that the Committee of Grocers-hall, who have contracted those debts, merely for provisions sent thither for relief of the Soldier, should be disengaged thereof again by the Parliament, upon whose Commands they made the Provisions, and they conceive it but just and reasonable (under favour and correction) that those who subscribed to pay in moneys upon that Ordinance of the 14th of July, 1643. upon which the Committee looked, as a security for the reimbursement and repayment of these moneys, should now therefore be compelled to pay in the same to satisfy those debts. And do propose the sixth, as fit for consideration, that such Provisions as have been made for Ireland, and such moneys as have been raised for that Service, may not be diverted from that end for which it was originally intended; and that no private person may enjoy that to his own use, which was provided for the public. And do propose the seventh, as conducing more to the Service than any other particular, for if we shall not have Shipping to lie upon these Coasts continually, so much as may be to prevent the bringing in of Supplies unto the Rebels, they will be the more bold in the Rebellion, and enabled to oppose us. And do propose the eight and ninth but as subservient to the rest, and very necessary to advance and borrow moneys for the Service upon all occasions. And do propose the tenth, as a thing so considerable, that to be granted would bring in much moneys, with the love and bounty of the people; would ease them from other Taxes and Assessments, and would in no sort be burdensome or grievous, and would be a foundation and way laid, to carry on a great part of the War there unto the end of it, without troubling the Parliament and State upon every occasion, to seek out and find new ways to raise moneys for that Service, and which many times comes with murmur and grudge of the people; and will engage many more Adventurers to plant there, when the War shall be ended; and is but of the same nature Monthly, as the Weekly meal which was raised lately in London. And do inform the eleventh, that the Committee may be rightly understood, not to seek themselves; and to show, they have not by ends of their own in all this they offer to perform, but to act freely and with public spirits, as only looking to advance the good cause in hand, and nothing else. And do propose the twelfth, for such reasons as they have herein formerly declared; all which they humbly submit to the consideration of the Parliament, and shall be well satisfied with whatsoever the Houses shall be pleased to resolve upon therein, etc. Concerning the Goods sent into Ireland, by Mr John Davis and his Partners. The Rates allowed Mr Davis and his Partners by Contract. How these Goods were then offered to be delivered by the Committee by way of Contract. The Rates allowed Mr Davis and his Partners by Contract. Demanded How these Goods were then offered to be delivered by the Committee by way of Contract. lb s d lb s d lb s d Wheat per quarter. 2. 4. 0. at first-2. 4.0 Wheat per quarter. 2. 0. 0 Pease per quarter. 2. 2. 0. at first-2. 4.0 Pease per quarter. 2. 0. 0 Oatmeal per quarter. 2. 10. 0 Oatmeal per quarter. 2. 8. 0 Butter per pound. 0. 0. 4. ½ Butter per pound. 0. 0. 4. ½ Cheese per pound. 0. 0. 3. ¼ Cheese per pound. 0. 0. 3 Musket and Bandal. 0. 16. 0 Musket and Bandal. 0. 15. 6 English powder per barrel. 4. 10. 0 English powder per barrel. 4. 5. 0 Cassocks and Breeches. 0. 17. 0 Cassocks and Breeches. 0. 16. 6 Pistols and Holsters. 1. 15. 0 Pistols and Holsters. 1. 13. 0 Shoes per pair. 0. 2. 7 Shoe per pair. 0. 2. 7 Swords. 0. 5. 6 Swords. 0. 5. 6 And a Penny in the Shilling profit he demanded for all Clothes and Goods he furnished out of these particulars. How these Goods might have been bought by the Committee at Grocers-Hall for the State, without a bargain a● four Months, and six Months, to have been paid out of the Collections for Ireland, as they had come in, which was the best security he gave to those from whom he bought the Goods. lb s d lb s d Wheat per quarter. 1. 2. 0 Pease per quarter. 1. 4. 0 Oatmeal per quarter. 1. 10. 0. other some, 1. 6. 0 Butter per pound. 0. 0. 3. ½ Cheese per pound. 0. 0. 1. ⅓ Muskets and Bandeliers. 0. 12. 10. Now for, 0. 11. 2. English powder per Barrel 4. 0. 0 Cassocks and Breeches, as good as he delivered some. 0. 10. 0. and under. Pistols and Holst. then 1. 8. 0. now 1. 1. 0 Shoes per pair. 0. 2. 4 Swords, as good he delivered some of them. 0. 2. 6. It will be proved further, by Certificate from Ulster, where he delivered these Goods; That so much meal will be bought there upon the place, for 7s. 6d. for which the Parliament pay here 16s. Wheat may be bought there, for half the price is paid for it here, and save all Charges of Fraight, adventure and otherwise. That Oatmeal may be bought at Leverpool for 6. 8d. so much, for which the Parliament pays 16●. That in 200 Barrels of Wheat which he sent, 40 quarters was wanting. That the Cloth which was sent thither, and furnished for the Officers of the Army at 18s. per yard, was dear at 8s. per yard. That the which arrived there, were found to be very Course shrinking Cloth, and most of the Suits too little and unserviceable. That the Butter and Cheese which was sent, was not worth a penny a pound one with another. That the Officers seeing themselves so abused, desire neither Victuals or may be sent them, but Money, and they will buy them for half the price. That if 50000 in Money, Ammunition, and some Artillery were furnished in Ulster, to be there by March, they writ from thence, they would carry 10000 Horse and Foot into the field out of those parts, and be able to give a good account of the Service, and make it as safe living in those parts of that Kingdom, as in any of the Associated Counties of England. FINIS.