THE DOCTRINES AND PRINCIPLES: THE Persecution, Imprisonment, Banishment, Excommunicating of the Saints of God, By the Priests and Magistrates of SCOTLAND, Contrary to the Doctrine of CHRIST and the APOSTLES. Here all may see, The Priests of Scotland, and their Church, and their Persecution, Imprisonment and Banishment, and Excommunicating of the Saints, and Lambs, Servants, and Children of God, which the Lord moved to go amongst them, to visit the Seed of God, in that dark wilderness-country, who has been as Sheep among Wolves. Also, How pure Religion is turned upsidedown, and vain Religion got in its place. And the pure Doctrine of Christ and the Apostles, which saith, Entertain Strangers, Love Enemies is lost amongst you; In stead of entertaining strangers, and loving of enemies, they Imprison and Persecute, and have made their Church unsavoury: And the Teacher's fruits declares to be false, who are wrestlers against flesh and blood, and strikers at creatures, which Christ and the Apostles did not. George Wear John Hart William Grey William Stockdale William Mitchell Richard Ismead LONDON, Printed for Robert Wilson, at the Sign of the Black-spread-Eagle and windmill in Martins-lane near Aldersgate, 1659. THE DOCTRINES AND PRINCIPLES Of the Priests of Scotland, etc. FIRST, These Presbyterian Priests of Scotland which Excommunicate and puts out of the Synagouges, knows not the Father and the Son, John 16. so no true Christians; for how can they be true Christians that knows not the Son of God, nor the Father? Secondly, They are no Ministers of Christ; for Christ saith, When they curse, bless ye; so they be out of Christ's doctrine and teaching, not blessing, but cursing, and giving forth curses, and all the people must say Amen to their Curses. Thirdly, They be out of the Apostles doctrine, who saith, Bless, and curse not, Rom. 12.14. so are no Ministers of Christ that curseth, and gives forth their Curses to the people to say Amen to them: and here they are shut out of the Apostles doctrine, and Christ's, all people mark, and take notice, them they are that curse, which the Apostle saith, Bless, and curse not; these are the Cursers, and not Blessers, that Excommunicate you out of the Synagogues. Hugh Archball, Priest of Stravan. John Hume, priest of Lesmahagow. William Hambleton, priest of Glasford James Durram priest of Glasgow John Castaires, priest of Glagow. Francis Ard, priest of Discert. Matthew Mackel, Priest of Bothwel Henry Foreside, priest of Lingiah James Nesmith, priest of Hambleton Robert Semple, priest of Losmahagow Thomas Garony, Priest of Edenbrough. John Burnet, priest of Kilbroid A short Relation of the sufferings of the People of God, called Quakers, by those unreasonable cursing Priests, who covet after innocent blood, as the Reader may find in this ensuing Treatise. WILL. OSBURNE was Excommunicated by William Sterling Priest, because he gave his testimony against him, and the rest of the Priests. Margaret Hambleton was Excommunicated by Lewis Semerell, Priest of New-monkeland, for entertaining the people of God called Quakers, and the denying the tyrannical power of the Presbytery. John Hutchison was Excommunicated by James Nesmith, Priest of Hambleton, and the Priest would not give him any account for what he did it. George Wear was Ecommunicated by John Hume, Priest of Lesmahagow, and the rest of the Presbytery of Lenarick, for entertaining the people of God called Quakers. William Michael, John Michael, Robert Todd, Mary Inglish, Elizabeth Lappy, Marian Michael: these were Excommunicated by Peter Kid, Priest of Douglass, and the rest of the Presbytery of Lenarick, for denying that Matthew, Mark, Luke and John was the Gospel, they witnessing the Power of God to be the Gospel. Thomas Jack, Gabriel Hood, James Cook, Gavine Scevenson, John Hambleton, Alexander Hambleton, Jannett Hambleton, Barbarah Hambleton, Jannett Hambleton, Andrew Hambleton, Jane Hambleton, Katherine Hambleton, Katherine Hart, John Allene, James Hambleton, William Hambleton, Margaret Hambleton, John Hart, James Actkine, John Hart, Alexander Hart, Jean Hart, Gavine Hart, John Lacoke, Jannett Brown, Jeanet Hambleton, Andrew Brown, Jean Brown; Thomas Craiqqe, John Torrens, Katherine Hambleton, Katherine Wear, Jeanet Wear: These were Excommunicated by Matthew Mackell, Priest of Bothwell, and the rest of the Presbytery at Hambleton, for saying that Priests that preacheth up Sin for term of life, be Ministers of the man of Sinne. James Finly, William Grace, and many others have been Excommunicated by those Priests in that manner. And after those Priests had Excommunicated these aforesaid persons, they caused a general Synod to meet at Glascow, and made an Order, and published it in all their Masse-houses, that none of those people called Quakers should have any entertainment, and that no people should have any dealing with them in any Civil affairs, not to give cursed men work (as they styled our Friends) and hindering men to work for them, and that under pain of Excommunication; the extent of which Order, is that they should neither buy nor sell, eat, nor drink with them in the Nation. William Stockdale, and John Boweram, being moved of the Lord to go to Strahavan in Evandale, and declaring the word of truth there one a Market-day to the people, was oftentimes knocked down with stones, and stoned out of the town with violence by the wicked people. William Stockdale, John Gill, and several others having a Meeting in Strahavan, a company of the Priests hearers came, and fell upon them with staves and stones, broke up their Meeting, and stoned them above a quarter of a mile out of the town, insomuch that some blood was spilt, and many were sore bruised. William Stockdale was knocked down in the Steeplehouse yard of Damanoy, and the people set their feet upon him, and pulled much hair off his head; insomuch that some of them cried he is killed, for he could not speak, nor rise off the ground for along time. George Wear, and several others had their Bonnets taken away from them at a Meeting, and they laid it before William Lowery, called Justice; but he instead of doing Justice, threatened them, saying, If they went to that place to meet again, he would have them whipped, or else he would whip them himself. Richard Gollon, Bailiff of Leanarick, took away William Michel's Bonnet by order of William Jack, priest of Carlooke; and the Priest would not let him have it again, neither would he let the said William, and some others stay in the Town all night, although the night was stormy, and the Priest and the Bailiff had his Bonnet. Marry Inglish, for going to ask Peter Kid, priest of Douglass, why he warned them to the Sessions, and did not appear to accuse them there, was shamefully abused, and beaten by the Priest's wife and others: here's the Priest's fruits. George Fox the younger, Elexander Parker, and others, had their letters taken from them, and broke up by George Monk, and the Council of Scotland, and never returned to them again; also ten pounds worth of true books taken away from the people of God called Quakers, by George Monk, and the Council of Scotland, and never was given back to this day, it being two years since. Alexander Parker was cast in Prison by order of George Monk, and the Council. George Fox the younger banished, and sent from Constable to Constable, by order of George Monk and the Council. George Wilson, George Fox the younger, and Richard Ismead, was banished from the Isles of Orkney by George Monks Command, and the rest of the Council of Scotland. Alexander Parker, and several others were commanded and sent out of Scotland by George Monk, and the order of the Council of Scotland. Francis howgil, Thomas Robbinson, and one more were apprehended at Dumfreize by the soldiers and magistrates of the town, whereupon the said Soldiers rifled them, and their Port-mantles for Letters, but when they could not find any to accuse them withal, the Magistrates cast them into prison as Vagrants, and did intent to have sent them into England again by Constables, but it being proved that they were no Vagabonds, the Magistrates and Soldiers was feign to let them go, after all the wrong they had done them, though it was to their own shame. Christopher Fell was put into prison in Parsley for speaking to the Priest after the Priest had done, and the people did threaten that if any Quakers did come again to their Church (as they called it) they would carry knives with them to stab them, to which threatening John Dove, who was then Lieutenant of a Troop of Horse, and quartered in that town, said, If they did do as they said, he would bring the Troop of Horse, and be-set them in their house, so to preserve the peace. Thomas Holmes, and Elizabeth his wife, was shamefully abused in several places in Scotland. Richard Pinder was put in prison four days, and in the Stocks five hours, and banished out of the Land, for speaking to the people in the Steeple-hous-yard of Kilbryde, between the Priest's Sermon time. Richard Ismead for bidding James Nesmith Priest of Hambleton prove himself to be a Minister of Christ, was put in prison there, and from thence sent prisoner to Glascow, there put in the stooks with a gag in his Mouth, and a paper pinnd on his breast, and was commanded to departed the Land. William Stockdall, was put in prison four days in a hole where he could scarce get room to lie down, for speaking to James Nesmith, Priest of Hambleton. James Lanchester, and others was several times put in prison for speaking in the streets of Hambleton. John Hart, Andrew Browne, and John Lacoke, was imprisoned several weeks in Glascow, for going to the Priest's house to speak to him, and the priest, excommunicated them in the mean while. Thomas Jack, was put in prison some days for going to the priest to ask why he would excommunicate him, the said Thomas Jack was put in prison, and kept from his Trade, he being a poor man, and his wife lying in Childbed: James Lanchester, and Robert Withers was banished out of Scotland. George Were, was put in prison twenty three days, and nothing laid to his charge justly. Will. Michael, was put in prison above twenty nine days for taking a wife contrary to the Priests will. John Robberton called Lord of Ornock publicly refused to enter Andrew Hambleton in Shawton Hill in his prossession under him, because he was excommunicated by the Priest, witnesses of this, Alexander Hambleton, John Strandders. William Grace, James Finly, Robert Grace, Robert Smally, John Robbins, all five were put in prison because they could not break Christ's command. John Hart, and Jeannett Browne, was put into prison for entertaining the people of God called Quakers. Three taken out of an Inn by force in the night season, between the tenth and eleventh hour, and stoned out of the Town: these and many more whose names are not here written have suffered much by this persecuting generation of Priests, whose throats are open sepulchres to swallow down the blood of the Saints, and Servants of the most high God. Hugh Archballs' Doctrine and Principles, Priest of Stravan in Evendale, These are his Principles as follow. Pr: THat Christ hath not enlightened every one that comes into the world. Ans. Which is contrary to John's doctrine John 1.9: Pr. That Christ doth enlighten none but those that do receive him. Answ: Contrary to John 3: speaking of them which hath the light, and are enlightened, and will not come to it, because the light will reprove them; so he that hates the light is enlightened, and will not receive Christ. Pr: That it is blasphemy to say, that the true light doth enlighten and condemn the world. Answ: Contrary to John 1: 9: and 3: 19: that saith, This is the true light that lighteth every man that cometh into the world. And this is the Condemnation of the world, that light is come into the world. Pr: To say, that which reproves for sin is from Heaven, is blasphemy. Answ: Contrary to John 16: 8: which saith it is the spirit that reproves, which comes from the Father, and the Son, which is from Heaven. Pr. He cryeth up a natural light, as Sun, Moon, and Stars, and the light of Christ was before these was made, and saith, it is blasphemy to say, they that did the things contained in the Law was blessed in the deed, and the Apostle said the doers of the Law was justified; and said he would leave the Friends that speak to him, to the mercy of the people. Answ: Upon which they struck bitterly with books, fists, and stones, to destroy, but that same moderate people and Soldiers stayed the Persecution. John Hume, Priests of Lesmahagow, His Principles as follows, who got into a Steeplehouse, and shut the door upon him; thus he taught the people. Pr: THat which was to be known of God, was manifest by the things that are created. Answ: Contrary to the Apostles doctrine, Rom: 1: 19: For whatsoever may he known of God is manifest in them, for the invisible things of him from the Creation of the world, are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse: So with that of God in them they know the invisible things from the foundation of the world and with that they see the Godhead. Pr: That God was to be known by the things that were made, as the Sun, Moon, and Stars. Answ: But Jesus Christ said, Mat: 11: 27: No man knows the Father but the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him, and the heathens know not God, nor the Jews had not seen his shape. And his servants and workmen did throw water, stones and lime, and persecuted, and dirtted, and abused the people called Quakers, and threw a pan full of water in a Soldier's neck, and the said Priest never reproved them; and these be the fruits of him, and his own Family, in stead of gravity: well may the whole Parish be out of order, when his own Family is thus. So he is one that is reproved by the Apostles doctrine. 1 Tim. 3. which saith, If you cannot rule your own Family, how can you take care for the Church of God? Henry Foreside, Priest of the Parish of Lingee in Dunbarton-shire, said in his Preaching to the People. Pr. IF they had any Christian zeal, they would stone them whom they call Quakers. Answ. It is the blind zeal that stones, not the Christian zeal, that have the life of Christ; for the Christian zeal is to pray for them that persecute, Mat. 5.44. and not to stone them, and to love enemies: it was the Jews zeal that took up stones to stone Christ, John 8.59. they stoned Steven, Acts 7.5, 8. and stoned the Apostles, Acts 14.19. In this the Presbyterians have proved their Christianity to be out of Christ and the Apostles. Pr. If Paul and the rest of the Apostles had been alive, they would have stoned the Quakers. Answ. Here all may see his work to be the envious man in cain's way, Judas 11. who would murder, and wrongs the Apostle, who never taught nor intended any such doctrine, but said, Overcome evil with good, Rom. 12.21. and love bears all things, 1 Cor. 13.7. Now see whose Minister this man is, that cannot bear, but would have them stoned, and would have the Apostle as bad as himself, which Apostle said, Christ was his example, who laid down his life for his enemies, Rom. 5.8. who suffered the contradiction of sinners, we will render evil to no man, but say the contrary, the Lord Jesus forgive them, Luke 23.34. and the Apostle said, they wrestled not against flesh and blood, Ephesians 6.12. but them and you that stone, do ye not wrestle against flesh and blood? But if the Apostles would have stoned, would they not have wrestled against flesh and Blood? And if the Apostles should have stoned all that were contrary to their minds, and bidding the people stone them, and told them it was Christian zeal, what work would they have made? as the said Henry Foreside, called Minister, doth, where would have been long suffering, Gal. 5.22. and loving enemies? Mat. 5.44. and where would he have had any to have converted and who would have been persecutors? and who would have prayed for persecutors? ye may see what a pit ye are fallen into, and how should they have convinced gainsayers, Tit. 1.9. and loved them whem they had stoned them. And this is the Presbyterians zeal of Scotland, and not Christian zeal, who would stone, and stir up his congregation to do so; for Christ, who is clothed with zeal, Isa. 59.17 said, Love your Enemies, but ye are clothed with madness and folly: And the Apostle that was in his zeal according to knowledge said, Overcome evil with good, Rom. 12.21. and vengeance is the Lords, and he will repay it, Rom. 12.19. and love bears all things, but his blind zeal cannot bear any thing, but cries stone them out of the way, and so wickedly and devilishly calls it Christian zeal, which is false that is, the Devil's zeal. Now the Apostles wrestled not against flesh and blood, but against the powers of darkness, Eph. 6.12. but the Presbyterians called Ministers are striking against flesh and blood, whilst ye would stone them, whilst that time spiritual wickedness lies within you. So ye Presbyterian-Priests are as a troop of robbers that would murder in the way by consent, Hos. 6.9. James Dorram, called Minister of Glascow, his Principles. Pr. THat the believers, even the real godly, are not without sin in this life. Ans. Here is one that is charging the elect, and laying sin to the elect that God justifies, Rom. 8.33. that in the godly there should be sin. Sin is out of the godly, in the ungodly, which turn the grace of God into wantonness; and and what good doth his preaching do them, if they must never be without sin whilst they are upon earth, they can be but in their sin, if they never preach to them: But the Scripture saith, He that believes is borne of God, and he that is borne of God cannot sin, because his seed remains in him; 1 john 3.9. But this is of another world to him, who is called James Dorram Minister of Glasgow, Minister of darkness, who puts no difference between the children of God, and the children of the Devil, 1 john 3.10. They would have sin whilst they are upon the earth, and it is darkness, but the Apostles said they were made free from sin, Rom. 6.22 whilst they were upon the earth. Pr. Christ being sinless, separates him from all others. Answ. Christ being separated from sinners, Heb. 7.26. who are in Christ are separated from sinners and sin both, 2 Cor. 6.17. But this Ja Dorram hath made the offering of none effect, Heb. 10.14. which hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified; And hath made the blood of Jesus of none effect, which cleanseth from all sin, 1 John 1.7. And he hath made the everlasting Covenant of none effect which blots out all sins & trespasses: And he hath made the faith of the Son of God of none effect, which purifies the heart, and gives victory over the world, Acts 15.9. 1 joh. 5.5. Thou dost herein preach & hold up sin, and doth not preach it down; and yet thou sayest thou preachest not to hold it up, and yet thou preachest they must have it whilst they are upon the earth; here is confusion in thy tongue; Pro. 17.20. Thou shouldst have preached it down, and have brought them to a Church where there is neither spot nor wrinkle, nor blemish, nor any such thing. Eph. 5.27. if thou were a true Minister, but your Church is full of spots, and blemishes, and wrinkles, whilst ye are preaching up zeal to stone people, and sin while they live, as Henry Foreside, and James Dorram doth. Pr. God be thanked, the scripture speaks nothing for freedom from sin and perfection. Answ: Thou thankest God that thou mayst live in thy sin and imperfection, and art glad of thy false hope; but thou art a liar, thou art out of the truth in this, for the Scripture saith they were made free from sin, Rom: 6: 26: and they preached wisdom among them that were perfect, 1 Cor. 2: 6: and he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified, Heb. 10: 14: So the scripture speaks of freedom from sin and perfection, and be perfect. Pr: That the condemning power of sin is taken away. Answ: The believer doth not sin, 1 john 5: 1: 1 john 3: 9: but he that the believer overcomes commits sin, 1 Io: 3: 8: and 1 Io: 5: 5: and if the believer commits sin, who overcomes the believer? and so he that commits sin is under the condemning power of sin which thou sayest not: which thou and all other shall witness. Pr: The believer is not in sin as the unbeliever is, he sins not as the unbeliever doth and in an other place he saith, the Law is the same to the believer, that it is to the unbeliever. Answ: Here any may read thy confusion, but I say unto thee, he that believeth doth not commit sin, but the unbelief is sin, Rom: 11: 20: and Christ is the end of the Law to every one that believes for righteousness sake, Rom. 10.4. and yet thou puts both believers and unbelievers under the Law. Lodowick Simerell, Priest of the new parish of Munckland, his Principles and Doctrines. Pr. THat it is blasphemy to say that the light in man, which reproves of sin, is the light of God, is perfect, is the gift of God. Answ. Contrary to scripture, contrary to Christ's words, and contrary to the Apostles words is thy doctrine and Principles, for every gift of God is perfect, Isa. 1.17. Isa. 49.6. Joh. 1.3. Joh. 4. For Christ is the gift of God, and he hath given him for a Covenant of light to the Jews and Gentiles, which doth enlighten every man that cometh into the world, which every one that doth truth comes to it, which every one that doth evil hates the light, and will not come to the light, because the light will reprove him; and so, This is the condemnation of the world, that light is come into the world, and men love darkness rather than light, because their deeds be evil. So this light is perfect, which doth reprove every man of sin, and is from above, and it is the gift of God, and thou art blind and in darkness that comprehends it not: And the light which doth enlighten every man that cometh into the world, Christ Jesus the gift of God, him by whom the world was made: this light was before any natural light was made, Sun, Moon, or Stars; for all things that was made, was made by the light, which came a light into the world, that all through him might believe, for he that believes not in the light, is condemned already; and he that does believe in the light hath the witness in himself, to set to his seal that God is true, and the spirit of truth that doth reprove the world, is perfect, and of God. The light which every one that cometh into the world is enlightened withal, is not conscience, for the light was before any thing was made, or conscience named: So the light is that which exerciseth the conscience towards God, and towards man, where it is loved, and the voice heard; but where it is hated, and the voice not heard, the conscience is seared, and the light is their condemnation, whose consciences is seared, which light was before conscience was. The Priest would not have thee and thou to be to a single person, and so is the man that would not endure sound words, that cannot be condemned, thee and thou was the language between God and his Saints, and one another, and you is to many, and thou was to one, and this was the language between Jeptha and his daughter, and between the Saints and the Kings, this shows thou hast not learned the Accidence nor Bible, nor art come to the form of sound words. John Castaires, called Minister of Glascow, his Principles. Pr. 'tIs natural folks duty to pray to God, and worship him, although they sinfully keep themselves under a sinful necessity to sin against God through ignorance. Answ: This hath been your work to keep people in ignorance, which you may be ashamed of. A natural man cannot worship God, for he cannot receive the things of God; nor a sinful man, but worship the Devil; for he that commits sin, serves him; and he that serves sin, serves the Devil, and worships him, john 8: 34: And Christ said the Pharisees should receive the greater damnation, for their pretended long prayers, Mat. 23: 14: and so he did not justify them in their long prayers, but rebuked them, and said, Woe unto them who draw near with their lips, when their hearts were far off, Isa. 29: 13: And they that pray and worship God, must pray in the spirit, 1 Cor 14: 15: and worship in the Spirit, which the Devil is out of, John 4: 21: Pr: If the first Command be in force, and if it be in force negatively, it is also in force, positively, thou shalt have me for thy God, and oughtest to worship me, and if they pray not as they should, let them answer for it, for it is not sin of itself. Answ. The children of Israel that the Commandments were given unto, knew God, but the Heathen knows him not: here all may see what measure thou measures withal. And further thou sayest, if they pray as they should not, and yet not sin, is praying as they should, and as they should not, one? by this to call upon God with their lips, and the heart not right, and the prayers and sacrifice of the wicked is justified, Prov. 15.8. and if any pray as they should not, are they not condemned for it? and if in praying as they should not, be not sin, than they do as they should. Pr. If folks should not pray because they are uncapable, than a believer not finding himself in a good frame, may let his prayers alone. Answ: A Believer is ababe of God, and his cry is right, his prayer is right, and his groan is right, 1 John 5.1. And every man that cometh into the world, being enlightened, and coming into the light which hath enlightened him, 1 John 1.7. in that he is to watch and pray, which leads him beyond naturals, which will be accepted in the degree, but he that hates the light, his prayer is not accepted, but is in the hypocrisy. Pr. The Apostles bad Simon Magus, an old witchcarle, pray, and now is there any reason to say we are bidding folk sin when we bid them pray, although they be grossly ignorant? Answ. The Apostle bade him Repent, Acts 8.22. and he was sensible he had sinned: and that which makes a man sensible of sin, brings him to pray aright, and turns him from witchcraft, and so thou dost put no difference between the precious and the vile, Ezek. 22.26. the accepted and unaccepted. And Hen. Foreside, who would have had his people to stone the Quakers, and calls it Christian zeal, he would have his wall up that he might live in safety, who murders, and would be preserved in the murderous estate, and would have the powers of the earth to be his Executioners and packhorses, but the Lord is opening of their eyes, that they will not execute their malice, though he is stirring up the people to do so; so all may see this is not the work of our Lord Jesus Christ, but the work of the Murderer, and one that makes himself drunk with the blood of the Saints, Rev. 17.6. till he reel again in his madness. And Christ called them that took up stones to stone him, of their Father the Devil, for doing his lust, John 8.44. And thou who would have the people to stone, and calls it Christian zeal, thou hast manifested thy Father, and to be of the Devil, who was a Murderer from the beginning, but you are the Serpents and vipers that would kill to fill the measure of your Fathers, Mat. 23.32. and persecute from City to City, and hale out of the Synagouges, John 16.2. that all the unrighteous blood, shed from righteous Abel, might come upon you, Mat. 23.35. and you are they that kill the bodies of the Saints, and are sheders of the righteous blood, (Mark, the righteous blood) that the righteous blood might be upon you. And Cain slew Abel, because Abel's sacrifice was accepted, and his not, Gen. 4. So it is about the Sacrifice, and worship, ye would murder and slay: So ye are in cain's way, a company of vagabonds, whose Sacrifice God hath no respect unto; if we were enemies, you would not teach the people to stone us if ye were Ministers of Christ, but love us, Mat. 5.44. And do good to us. If the Apostles should have taught the people to stone all that were contrary to their mind, and Christ should have taught his Disciples to stone all that were contrary to their mind, and tell them that were Christian zeal, but ye may see Christ and his Apostles taught another doctrine, Love your Enemies, and thou teachest to stone them, contrary to Christ, and his Apostles, we do conclude it to be the Doctrine of the Devil, and not the Doctrine of Christ, who are in scorn called Quakers. For the true Christian zeal never taught to stone, but were stoned. The Priests called Presbyterians summoned some people called Quakers to come before them, and they came into the Steeple house where they met, and James Nasmith, Priest of Hanbleton bade them remove, or else he would make them remove by Club Law, and they asked the presbyterian Priests for their accusers, and Francis Ard one of the Priests said, they were both accusers and Judges; now whether this be equity, that the same should be both accusers, and Judges that summons; and when they have summoned, accused, and judged, saith they will make them remove by club Law: whether these be not bruits, and beasts, and not Justices, and are not fit to Judge, nor to have the name of Ministers, and Judges that will remove people by club Law; and the said Quakers could not own them as Judges, nor doth look on them as men of equity, but would have had them to have given them a meeting in any place, whereby the truth might be cleared, which they had scandalised, and come to light, which they refused, and that lawful witnesses might hear, but they did refuse, and caused them to be put in prison by the hand of a bailiff, by name Nasmith. And this is the authority of the Presbyterian Priests, who hath summoned with club Law, but it is denied by the Apostles Doctrine, 1 Tim. 3. they must not be strikers, nor false accusers. These are the Presbyterian Priests of Scotland's weapons, club Law, which is contrary to the Ministers of Christ, they said, We wrestle not against flesh and blood, and they must not be strikers, Eph. 6.12. and after they had done violently, they thrust them into prison; after their wills were satisfied with violence, they thrust them out again, there ye may feel the Spirit of wickedness. And these Presbyterian Priests, (are people) petitions the Magistrates, with a pretence, they might not be guilty of others blood, which pretence is in their Petitions, to take away their fear, that their wicked peace might not be disturbed, not regarding their blood: witness James Nasmith Priest, who would make them remove by club Law. So their Petition is but flattery and deceit, in pretence of not being guilty of their blood, in whose heart it is to shed blood, as witness Henry Foreside Priest, who stirred up the people in zeal to stone them. Those Presbyterian Priests that set up club Law and persecution against the Quakers, who would not have any to receive them into their houses. So this is abominable Doctrine, contrary to the Apostle, whose Doctrine you have trodden under your feet, who said, Be not forgetful to entertain Strangers, for thereby some have entertained Angels unawares, Heb. 13.2. And they say again, They have no certain dwelling places. Here these Presbyterians with their club Law and Excommunications, which say the Quakers have no certain dwelling places, they may inform against the Apostles, which had no ceartain dwelling places, and against Christ, who had not whereon to lay his head, Luk 9.58. and against Abraham, who had not a foot of ground, Gen. 12. but Cain built a City, the vagabond, of whose stock and offspring you are, Gen. 4.17. and said David, Let their Children be vagabonds, Psal. 109.10. and so this is fulfilled upon you. And you Presbyterian Priests with your club Law, who would club those people scornfully called Quakers, away; you would have an Order from the Justices, that none should receive the Quakers into there houses, and stop them of their liberty; and this is contrary to the Law of the Nations: And this is damnable doctrine, wherewith ye poison the people, and stirs them up with madness and folly. And in stead of teaching of them peace, you teach them strife, and in stead of loving one another, you teach them to fight one with another. And Henry Foreside Priest cries stone them. And James Nasmith Priest cries for club Law. And William Hambleton Priest of Glasford said to Andrew Brown, if the Laws were right, they would chop off all the Quakers heads: by William Hambletons' words the Law is wrong, because it doth not fulfil his purpose and envy. Here all may see that you are doing the Devil's work, hunting after blood, whose envy, madness and folly appears to all men; what ye cannot do yourselves, ye exhort the people to do; and what ye and the people cannot do, ye Petition the Magistrates to do, that all the righteous blood may come upon you, Mat. 23.35. Alas for you, ye poor Priests, and mad Presbiterians: Is this your work to set them to stone, and cry up club Law, and Law to chop off their heads? is this the way to convert them? is not this the Popish way of converting them? ye should go to convert them, instruct them, convince them, love them, heap coals of fire upon them, Mat. 5. Rom. 20. Overcome evil with good, Rom. 12.21. Pray for them, Mat. 5.44. No cry you, chop off their heads, begging by petitions that none may receive them into their houses, stone them, fall upon them by club law, that your folly and madness may be made manifest; and yet imprison them, and such as receive them into their houses: As for instance, ye caused John Hart of the heads of Glasford, and Jennet Hambleton widow of Westmanes, to be imprisoned for entertaining them into their houses. Here ye have proved yourselves to be the Wolves the sheep are sent among, Mat. 10.16. that are ravening to devour them; which is one of the marks that ye are the false Prophets Christ said should come Mat. 7.5. And another haling out of the Synagogues, and Excommunicating, and ye never show for what; which practice ye are in, which is a work of darkness. and upon this bargain that the Magistrates would grant them an order, that none should receive them into their houses, and that they might not have their liberty, and their servants would be much refreshed, who cry stone them, let us have a Law against them, and if the Laws were right, they would chop off their heads, and make them remove by club Law; but how was these Priests the Magistrates servants at Dunbar Fight, when they excommunicated and cursed their now being army and Magistracy? but now they would be their servants, if they would execute their wills upon the innocent: Surely these things cannot but stink to all Magistrates that fear God. These are the servants and servers of the times, that the Prophets calls enchanters, Leu. 19.16. and for their own false ends; ye can never read that the Apostles nor Christ did ever teach any such doctrine that the people should be stoned, or have their heads chopped off, or driven away by clup Law, which shows you are Apostatates, from the Apostasy, and of the Jewish nature. The Synod at Glasgow, in the second month, did ordain concerning these persons in Clidsdale, formerly Excommunicated, who are called Quakers, that no other people in other parishes should bargain with them, or suffer them to come within their houses, or have entertainment for money: Upon which the people persecuted, and stoned them, & haled them out of their houses in several places, viz. Three of them people called Quakers, were in the night time between the 10. and 11. hours, drawn by force out of an Inn, in the Town of New mills in Aire-shire, and stoned out of the town into the Fields to shift for their lodging. And others, three several times were beaten, stoned, and shamefully entreated, and persecuted in Stravan. And others at Lithmahaga. And others shamefully abused in the Town of Kirkantillough. And others stoned at Kilbride. And others pitifully stoned, beaten and abused; and some blood shed at Glasford: And at many other places much harm hath been done. These be the Priest's fruits, the bloody Presbytery, who would have them stoned, and their heads chopped off; some of the Magistrates did stop the people for abusing of them, so that the Priest's malice was not altogether satisfied. Andrew Brown, and John Lacock of Glasford, were cast into prison, for ask him a question when he was Catechising, and admonished them when they were far absent, and if they come before them, they will cast them into prison; this makes them peeper's and mutterers', to admonish them when they are not present, and is this like to change them, or do they intent to change them, who admonish them when they are out of hearing, and did Excommunicate them when they were in prison? what an unhumanly part is this wicked, devilish, envious, and unchristian Ministry. And John Hart went to a steeple house to here the Priest's admonishment, for the Priest said he would admonish him, and he went to hear him, and when he had admonished him, he spoke to him, and bid him prove himself in the doctrine of Christ, and they who he admonished out of it, and then give them a bill of divorsment: but the Priests went to the Court, and got a warrant from the Justice, and so cast him into prison, and when he was in prison, Excommunicated him, and said he disturbed him; And here his devilish wicked art & doctrine appears, which shows him of cain's flock, where is nothing but persecution, murder, and envious-slayers, vagabonds, & cursed speakers that went on in the way of Balaam, or Core; that makes merchandise of the people through their covetousness, and feigned words to the people; And gives forth their Curses in their Congregations, and all the people are to say Amen to them as followeth. The Priests first Curse that all the people were to say Amen to. Cursed be all they that say Grace is free, and let all the people say, Amen. Answ. ANd so they curse the Apostles, and the Apostles doctrine, and all that witness to it, who said, The free grace of God which bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, Tit. 2.11. and was the Saint's Teacher; these things the Apostles commanded to teach with all authority, Tit. 2.15. but the ungodly men turn this grace of God into wantonness, of old ordained for condemnation. Ye are the raging waves of the Sea, sending and foaming out your own shame, whose fruits whither, neglecting the common salvation, read Judas. Ye are like to Sodom and Egypt, clouds without water, who run greedily after the wages of Balaam, going on the way of Cain, and shall perish in the gainsaying of Core, and walking despitefully against the spirit of grace; and they that turn the grace of God into wantonness, denies the Lord that bought them, 2 Pet. 2. Judas 11. Ye are the trees without fruit, wells without water, carried about with tempests, cursed speakers; teaching the people to say Amen to your cursing the Apostles doctrine, and so willingly ignorant, that your damnation may be just, that your madness and folly might appear to all, and so sensual, having not the spirit, waves of the Sea, wand'ring stars, received for darkness of blackness, read Judas. The grace of God which bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, Tit. 2.11. So that which brings salvation, and hath appeared to all men, ye curse that which is the grace of God, which ye with your damnable doctrine, and doctrine of Devils, curse them that witness it, 2 Pet. 2. 1 Tim. 4. upon whose consciences the hot Iron hath come, hardened them that went to the doctrine of Devils, went to them that did not hold forth the Saviour of all men, but especial them that believe, 1 Tim. 4.10. These things command and teach, let no man despise thy youth. Now they that went to the doctrine of Devils, from the Saviour of all men, but especially them that believe, and from the grace of God which hath appeared to all men, which brings salvation; are they which have turned the grace of God into wantonness, ordained of old for condemnation, which is the light, Judas 4. Such be in cain's way from the command of God, Cores way from the truth, and Balaams' way from the spirit, those be the clouds and tempests upon whose heads comes the Woe. The Priests second Curse, which all the People were to say Amen to. Cursed be all they that say, the Scriptures is not the Word of God; and let all the people say Amen. Ans. HEre they have cursed Luke, who calls the Scripture a Declaration of the Word, Luke 1.1. and Acts 1.1. where it is called a Treatise; and they have cursed their own company who say the Scriptures signifies writings; and they have cursed John, who did not say the Scripture was the Word, who said, In the beginning was the Word, Joh. 1.1. and the Scripture is words, as Revel. the last, He that addeth to the words; and Christ his name is called, The Word of God, Rev. 19.13. And the Scriptures are words, not a word, Exod. 20. and which words Christ came to fulfil. The Priests third Curse, to which all the people were to say Amen. Cursed be all they that say Faith is without sin, and let all the people say Amen. Ans. FAith is the gift of God, and the gift of God is without sin, Eph. 2.8. Faith is that which gives the victory, John 3.4. And that which gives victory is without sin. And here they have cursed the Apostles and their Doctrine, who saith, Faith is without sin, and Faith is precious, 1 Pet. 1.7. and that which is Precious is without sin. Faith is the gift of God, and the gift of God is perfect, and that which is perfect is without sin, and gives victory over sin: Without Faith a man cannot please God, and that which men please God in, is without sin, Hebr. 11.6. And so ye have cursed the Apostle and his Doctrine, the just and that which is pure, that by which they were healed, through Faith they were justified, Rom. 3.28. and what is not of Faith is sin, Rom. 14.23. So what is of Faith is not sin, and what is righteous is not sin, and the Scripture speaks of the righteousness of Faith, Rom. 4.13. Faith is not of sin, but what is not of Faith is sin, Faith gives victory over sin, 1 John 3.4. in which Faith man is justified, and hath peace with God, Rom. 5.1. and it is a mystery held in a pure conscience, 1 Tim. 3.9. The Priests fourth Curse, to which all the people were to say Amen. Cursed are all they that say every man hath a light sufficient to lead him to Christ, and that within him, and let all the people say Amen. Ans. HEre they have cursed the Apostles Doctrine, who said God would dwell in them, 2 Cor. 6.16. and Christ in you the hope of glory, Col. 1.27. and God is light, 1 John 1.5. And they have cursed the Prophets, who said, I give him for a Covenant, a Leader of the people: I will dwell in them, and walk in them, saith God, Jer. 31.31. Hebr. 10.16. And he saith, I will send you the Spirit of truth, and it shall lead you into all truth, John 14.17. John 16: 13. And I will be their God, to rule them, and they shall be my people, Jer. 31.33. Thy curses are but wind, for we are redeemed from the curse; and the Apostles said, the light that shined in their hearts was to give them the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ, 2 Cor. 4.6. and they that are led by the Spirit of God are the Sons of God, Rom. 8.14. and the light to guide our feet in the way of peace, and he that hath the Son hath the Father also; and if any bring another Doctrine, receive them not into your houses, neither bid them God speed, 2 John 9, 10. You have here showed yourselves in the cursed estate, out of the Apostles rule, the same spirit of truth that led the Disciples into all truth, that shall reprove the world of sin, John 16.8, 13. The Priests fifth Curse, to which all the people were to say Amen. Cursed be all they that deny the Sabbath-day, and let all the people say Amen. Ans. HEre thou hast cursed thyself, and all the Apostles, and all the Saints, and their own generation; hast not thou and thy own generation denied the Sabbath day, the Jews met on, which is the Sabbath day according to the Scripture? do not ye meet together upon the first day? and was not Christ crucified on the sixth day? and did not he arise on the first day? and did not the Saints meet together on the first day? and not keep the Jews Sabbath-day? do not you work upon it yourselves, and keep Markets and Fairs on it? but as it is said before, we are Redeemed from the curse. These are the particular Sentences whereupon Matthew Mackell, and the rest of the Priests present with him, did excommunicate those people called Quakers in the presence of many witnesses, and he required his Hearers to say Amen to every particular sentence. John Humes, Priest of Lismahagow, his Principles. Pr. THey who have not the Scriptures, knows not the Attributes of God by the light of nature, but the Scriptures declare the great mystery of the three persons in Trinity, which they who want the Scriptures knows not. Ans. Thy Principle is a lie, and they that had not the Scriptures knew God and Christ, as Abraham and Enoch, and the Scripture doth not declare of the three persons, nor of the Trinity, and the natural man receives not the things of the Spirit of God. Pr. That the Scriptures reveal the great mystery of Election, the great works of the Creation, and the work of Redemption. Answ. There thou hast set up the Scripture instead of God, and before God and the Son, for it is God that doth reveal to babes and sucklings, Mat. 11.25. and God did reveal by his Spirit, 1 Cor. 2.10. and God shall reveal, Phil. 3.15. and the things of God are hid from the wise and prudent, Mat. 11.25. that have the Scriptures; the Jews had the Scriptures: and God reveals his secrets to the Prophets his Servants, Amos 3.7. no man knows the Father saving to whom the Son shall reveal him, Mat. 11.17. now the Son reveals, and the Father reveals, and the things of God are revealed by his Spirit, 1 Cor. 2.10. the Jews had the Scriptures, and knew not the Son, 1 Cor. 2.8. nor the Father, as in John, nor the things of God by a natural light, as they call it; the Jews had the Scriptures, and did not know the Election, Isa. 24. because they were from the Spirit. So it is God that reveals the Son, and Redemption, and Election, and not the Scripture, the Scripture was given forth from them that had the Revelation from God. Pr. That we and the Papists and Jesuits, and Priests, do agree all together, that the Scripture is the word of God that liveth and endureth for ever. Answ. I do believe that you and the Papists and Jesuits, agree all in one; but ye did not agree with the Apostles and Ministers of the word, for the Ministers of the word calls the Scripture a Declaration, as ye may read Luke 1. and ye do not agree with them that set forth the Acts, that called it a Treatise, Acts 1. likewise ye do not agree with some of your own, who say the Scriptures signifies writings, and writings will not endure for ever, so ye are Babylon, and do not agree with Christ, and ye do not agree with John, Bev. 〈◊〉. who saith the words; nor with Moses, nor God, who spoke all these words, Exod. 20. In the beginning was the word, and the word is God, and the word liveth and abideth for ever; but the Scripture is words, and the Scripture cannot be broken. James Nesmith Priest of Hambleton, his Principles. Pr. THat the soul of man is a reasonable sinful substance. Answ. How can that which is sinful be reasonable? and if that which is unsinful be reasonable, and sinful be reasonable both, than they are one in unity: The Lord will take the soul for an offering for sin; doth the Lord take that which is sinful for an offerring? Isai. 53. see how thou and the Prophet agrees here; But what is that soul that the wicked is not able to kill? is it not that which God hath in his hand? and this is a lie, to say that which is reasonable is sinful, of one that puts light for darkness. God breathed into man the breath of life, and he became a living soul, who hath all souls in his hand, and the soul is immortal, and Christ the Bishop of it is immortal, and God hath it in his hand which goeth against him that doth evil, whose hand is immortal, but man transgressing against the commands of God, the soul lies in death; so Christ is the Bishop of the souls, so they that came to know Christ, their souls rejoice in God their Saviour, Luke 1. Pr. That the evil Spirits are both sinful and reasonable. Answ. This is a lie for reasonable is not sinful, and unreasonable is sinful, 2 Thes. 3. they have not the faith: and if the evil Spirit be reasonable, and the good reasonable, they are both one, who then is unreasonable? If the evil Spirit be reasonable, thou pots no difference between the precious and the vile; thou hast the Mark of a blind guide, and a false Prophet in thy so ehead. Pr. That one of them Quakers is worse than the Devil. A. This is a lie with his strange wonder, for there is nothing worse than the Devil, whose children you are for when he speaks a lie he speaks of himself, and he is the Father of it. Henry Foreside Priest of Lingiah in Dunbarton shire, His Doctrine and PRINCIPLES. Pr. THat God commands all every where to repent, to the end that they should not have it to say but they were warned, but not that he would give them grace to repent. Answ. Here thou makes God that he does not intent that he speaks, and so thou would make him unrighteous, though the Lord commands all men every where to repent, Acts 17.30. who hath made all Nations of men of one blood to dwell upon the Earth, and all being concluded under sin and unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all. Rom. 3.9. For both Jews and Gentiles all were under sin, and none of them did good, no not one. And God's intent is, that when he calls men to repentance, they should repent, when he calls them, and many did repent; and you are not fit men to be Ministers of Christ or God. Now if God command all men every where to Repent, and, as thou sayest, does not intent they should Repent, thou and you go about to make God unjust. First the Lord he desireth not the death of a sinner, but that he should turn from his wickedness and live, Exod. 33.11. Now in the turning from his wickedness he lives, but in going on in his wickedness he dies; so Repentance was Preached from dead works, to serve the living God. Heb. 6.1. & Christ came to call finners to Repentance, not the Righteous; for the whole needs not the Physician, but to the sick, Mat. 9.12, 13. And as for saying, God did not intent to give them grace, though he calls them to repentance: That is a lie, & unrighteous doctrine, for the grace of God hath appeared to all men, which brings Salvation, Titus 2.11. and so as he calls them to repentance, he gives them grace, that grace which brings salvation, which men are justified by; so it is saving grace that brings salvation, and teacheth to deny ungodliness. Now they that live ungodly, turns the grace of God into wantonness, Judas 4. and these are the wells without water, in cain's way, Balaams' way, and Cores way, Judas 11. speaks the high words in hypocrisy; and these are they that separate themselves from the Apostles, sensual, having not the Spirit, Judas 19 and are of old ordained to condemnation, who separated from the light, which turns the grace of God into wantonness; so these are they that neglect the common salvation, it was the charge of the Apostle to Timothy before his decease, 1 Tim. 4.2. 2 Tim. 4.7. Then told him perilous times should come, and Doctrines of Devils, and men speaking lies in hypocrisy; he said unto them, that they should trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, and especially of them that believe, 1 Tim. 4.10. But the Devil's Doctrine leads them from their Saviour, and from the grace, 2 Tim. 4.1. And they that are not in the Doctrine, are from the light, which Christ hath enlightened them withal, John 1.9. And have turned the grace of God into wantonness, and pernicious ways, and draws others from it, and we do conclude that to be the Doctrine of Devils, which says God calls all men to repent, and intends not to give them grace, nor would not have them to repent: as thou Henry Foreside doth say, for it was the charge of the Apostle to Titus to speak sound words, and sound Doctrine, and could not be condemned, Titus 2. and told him that the grace of God which brings salvation had appeared to all men, which taught them to deny ungodliness and worldly lust, and to live godly, soberly and righteously in this present evil world, these things speak and exhort with all authority, Tit. 1. But as I said before, ungodly men that turn the grace of God into wantonness, are of old ordained to this condemnation, and this the is condemnation of the world, that light is come into the World, and men love darkness rather than light, because their deeds are evil, John 3.19. he that loves the light, the light is his Saviour, but he that hates the light, it is his condemnation. Pr. That the two parts of the Church must be profane and godless. Ans. The Church is the Pillar and ground of truth, 1 Tim. 3.15. The Church of the living God; for the ungodly are out of its grounds, and that which is ungodly; the pillar and ground of truth, there is no ungodly in it, and the Church is without wrinkle or spot, holy, without blemish, Eph. 5.27. and the Church is in God, 1 Thes. 1.1. That which is in God is in the light, and out of the ungodly. Pr. That God before the world was, had ordained one little part of the people for eternal life; that sin, or do all the evil they could, they could not lose that which was ordained for them. Ans. Here thou goest about to make Christ a liar, for he that commits sin is the servant of sin, 1 Joh 3.8. saith, He that commits sin is of the Devil, saith the Apostle, and thou wouldst make God partial, and hast taught a Doctrine contrary to the Scriptures, For God is no respecter of persons, Rom. 2.11. Who will give to every one a reward according to their works, Psal. 62.12. And he that works iniquity must departed cursed from Christ, Mat. 7.23. Mat. 25: 41. And he that sinneth after he hath received the truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sin, but a fearful looking for of judgement, Hebr. 10.27. And the elect doth not commit sin, and who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's Elect, Rom. 8.33. and the Elect is Christ, Isai. 42.1. who was elected before the world was, he that is born of God doth not commit sin, neither can he, because his seed remains in him, 1 John 3.9. And he that commits sin is of the Devil, and never knew God, vers. 6: And here is the children of God maniest, and the children of the Devil, 1 Joh: 3: 10: and God hears not sinners, and them that regard iniquity, Psal. 66.18. Joh. 9.31. Prov: 15: 8: Pr: That the great part of the world was ordained for Hell, that repent or do all that they are commanded to do, they would not obtain salvation, because God had ordained them to Hell. Ans. Then he was asked wherefore he preached? His answer was to save the elect: he was answered again, if it was so, there was no need of that, seeing they could not be lost; Then he was asked before he preached to them that were ordained to Hell: he answered to make their damnation hotter; it was answered them again, that they had small friends of them, and they could not make it hotter, seeing they were ordained before; the Priest aforesaid was asked, who had the blame that men went to Hell. His answer was, Seeing ye desire to know, I shall tell you, there is one part of the blame in man, and another part of the blame in the Almighty, that men went to Hell. Ans. In this here is confusion, thou sayest, God hath ordained them, thou sayest God has done it, (than mark) than thou sayest, there is part in man, and thou sayest before it was in God; now if it be in God, as thou sayest, that he hath ordained them to hell, repent or do all that they are commanded to do, thy preaching is needless; and thou cannot add to Hell hotter or colder: Therefore thy preaching is done and ceased: And thou sayest part of the blame that men go to hell is in God; here thou wouldst make God unrighteous, who desires not the death of a sinner, God is not to be blamed in any thing he doth, but praised, and righteous in all his judgements; and God is not to be blamed, for God is truth, so let God be true, and every man a liar, Rom. 3.4. thou wicked one, man's destruction is of himself, Hos. 13.9: and God wills not the death of a sinner, but rather that he would repent, so no fault in God, who saith, let the unrighteous man forsake his unrighteousness, and he shall live; so let the righteous man forsake his righteousness, and he dies, Ezek. 18.22. So my ways are equal, the Lord hath no pleasure at all that the wicked should die, but that he should return and live, so man's destruction is of himself: And whereas thou sayest, God hath ordained a great part to Hell, what makest thou of Christ who came to be a Saviour of the world? John 4.42. he doth not say the Elect only, but to save the world, and not to condemn it, and God so loved the world (mark the words) John 3.19. he doth not say, so hated it, that he gave his only begotten Son into the world, that whosoever believed in him, should not perish, but have everlasting life; and he came not to condemn the world, but that the world through him might have life, but they that hate the light, and do not believe in it, are with the light condemned, but thou sayest otherwise, that he condemns a great part of the world, and he doth not say he loves the Elect only, but God so loved the world, and God was in Christ reconciling the world to himself, 2 Cor. 5.19. he does not say the Elect only; and he through death hath destroyed the power of death, the Devil, Heb. 2.14. and thou art to be reproved for thy judgement, for thy unbelief, for thy righteousness, for thy sin, because of thy unbelief, for thy judgement, because the Prince of this world is judged, Joh. 16. and so Christ doth not say I am the light of the Saints, of the elect only, but I am the light of the world, Joh. 8.12. and saith, that light is come into the world, and this is the condemnation of the world, that light is come into to the world, and men love darkness rather than it, because their deeds are evil, Joh. 3.19. So its unbelief that shuts out, Rom. 11.20. So the gates stand open night and day, and every one that doth evil, hates the light and will not come to it, because it will reprove him, and he will not come in to the gate, for he that comes to the gate comes to the light, and he that comes to the light, comes out of condemnation, and comes to be a child of the light, he that hates the light will not come into the kingdom of God: And for thy saying, God hath ordained a great part of the world to Hell, let them repent, and do all that ever he hath commanded them; he that doth the things that Christ commands, enters the Kingdom; he that reputes his mind is changed, and whosoever believeth shall not perish, and this command is general, Joh. 10.28. through the whole world, therefore thou with the Devil's doctrine, shuts up the kingdom of Heaven against others, and wilt not go in thyself, who says let men repent, and do all that ever they can, they must go to hell, when God wills not the death of a sinner, but rather that he should turn from his wickedness and live, Ezek. 33.11. but he is merciful, and judges not as thou dost, whose eyes are blinded, and hands full of blood; so I say, whosoever reputes, and doth the things they are commanded, they shall be saved, and that which thou sayest to the contrary, we conclude to be the Devil's doctrine, and whosoever resists the thing that is commanded, that will be their condemnation, but hates the light which was before the world was, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world, that all through him might believe, for he that believes in the light shall not abide in darkness, John 8.12. shall not come into condemnation, shall come to be a child of light, John 12.36. and they shall have the light of life, and so the light is sufficient to save them, and condemn them that believe not, John 3.18.14. James 4.12. and every one that cometh into the light, that they are enlightened withal, such come into the election, and into the Covenant of God, and evil consciences thou mayest frighten, them that hates the light, which is their condemnation; but the elect thou canst neither save nor deceive, thanks be to God Christ reigns, who will give to every man according to his works, who doth enlighten every man that cometh into the world, not believing is condemned, and shut out, and such turn the grace of God into wantonness, and are ordained of old, that hate the light which lighteth every man that cometh into the world, and such be in Cain & Balaams' way, persecutors and murderers, and turns the grace of God into wantonness. Pr. From the words of Judas 4. they were of old ordained; from these words he said, That God had predestinated one to life, without any cause in the creature less or more, and the other wicked man to Hell without any cause in the creature less or more; and both wicked men: And before thou said part of the cause that God cast into hell was in the man, and part in God; In this seventh principle and doctrine, thou sayest there is no cause in the creature, that God cast into hell and condemns him, and in the other thou said, there were part blame in man, and part in God; and here is the Devil's Doctrine, a lie found in thy mouth, and thou hast wrested, perverted, and wronged that Scripture in Judas who saith, their is no part in man causeth condemnation; that all may see you are liars, he saith, they were ungodly, they turned the grace of God into laciviousness that brings salvation, that denied the Lord that bought them, Judas 11. 2 Pet. 2.1. They were covetous, made merchandise of the people, through feigned words, so no covetous nor Idolater shall enter into the Kingdom of God, 1 Cor. 6.9. and all they deny the Lord that bought them, but who owns the light that comes from him, which doth enlighten every man that comes into the world, and none sees him, but with the light that comes from him, and they go in Cores way, and gain-sayeth the truth, who go from the light that Christ hath enlightened them in the particular, and he that gain-sayeth the truth, there is a fault in him, and they go in cain's way that are from the command of God, who said if thou dost well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if he did not well, fin lay at the door; now these were of old ordained unto condemnation, which turned the grace of God into wantonness, were in cain's way, Cores way, and broke the commands as Cain did, in Balaams' way, erred from the spirit, and admired men's persons because of advantage, which Balaam did, and loved the wages of unrighteousness, and so these did not do the things they were commanded; Cain he did not do the thing that he was commanded, nor Core that offered strange fire, and his company, Num. 16. So these of old were ordained for this condemnation, which condemnation is the light, Io. 3. light foresees them, and sees over them, and condemns them, when they arise and goes out from the spirit of God in them; and here all may see, here was fault worthy of condemnation, and those were they that sensually separated themselves from the Apostles, and had not the spirit, Judas 19 in their days: which were covetous, which went for the gift and reward, which were like raging waves of the Sea, which were spots in feasts of charity, feasting, feeding without fear, 2 Pet. 2. Which admired men's persons because of advantage, and spoke the high words in hypocrisy, Wells without water, Trees without fruit, raging waves of the Sea, foaming out their own shame, clouds without water carried about with tempests, spots in the feasts of charity, like unto Sodom and Gomorah in filthiness, which go from the light that does convince them: so there is the self separation, and their is the condemnation that comes over them, the light; and these are they that separated from the Apostles; which said love your enemies, Mat. 5.44. Which are men gone into the world, which be in cain's way in envy, in Cores ways gainsaying the light, they are like raging waves of the Sea, foaming out their shame in their pulpits, so you are the men that separates from the Apostles, that be in cain's way, who be out of the life, and sacrifice the Saints were in, that would murder, and Cores way that gain-sayeth the light that doth enlighten every man that cometh into the world, so against the common salvation, and ye be like Cain foaming and raging in your Pulpits, and would murder all that are contrary to you, whose Sacrifice God acceptes, & yours he does not, & God would have accepted of Cain, if he had done well, Gen. 4. So God is merciful, & a just God, but Cain he did not well; therefore woe went out from God against him, and so there was fault in him & not in God, which was the cause of his condemnation: so you that be in Balaams' way; for the wages of unrighteousness, admiring men's persons because of advantage, Ye are out of the faith that is held without respect of persons, jam. 2. and so separated from the Apostles, to whom Christ said, Freely ye have received, freely give, and you will not give freely, who are raging and foaming, without you have augmentations, stipends, glebe Lands, or Tithes, great sums of money, gifts of rewards from great houses, so you deny the light that enlighteneth every man that cometh into the would, so gainsays the common salvation, Judas 1. You gainsay the truth, that doth enlighten every man that cometh into the world, so in Cores way you are, and would have the persons of the Saints murdered, so in cain's way, as ye confess that ye have not the spirit that gave forth the Scriptures, so in the self separation, and ye deny the light that enlighteneth every man that cometh into the world, which is the Lord, John 8.12. And so denies the Lord that bought you, 2 Pet. 2.1. And so are for condemnation, who are of that flock that separate themselves from the Apostles, sensually, having not the spirit, who are in cain's way, that would kill and murder, and out of the Apostles way, who said love your enemies; who are in Balaams' way, for gifts and rewards, and admiring men's persons because of advantage, to them speaking high words in hypocrisy, and out of the Apostles way to whom Christ said, Freely ye have received, freely give, Mat. 10.6. And out of the Prophet's way, who said, come without a price, Isa. 55.1, 2. And ye will have the price, or else you will not come, let all that can read jude over, and see if their was not cause in man of his condemnation, and not in God; and so have not you proved yourselves in the Doctrine of Devils, and in lies, and would make God unrighteous, and the Apostles unrighteous? for their was fault in Cain, fault in Balaam, and fault in Core, and fault in Sodom, and fault in them that turned the grace of God into wantonness, which were of old ordained for this condemnation, jude 4. which condemnation is, that light is come into the world, and men love darkness rather than light, because their deeds are evil, and so the Apostles taught that their was fault in man, as ye may read jude, and thou hast taught there is none; so than thou art unrighteous, who would make God and the Apostles unrighteous, like thyself, let all that fear God judge of it, who are now come to the judgement Seat before the Almighty God, who have been them that erred from the Apostles Doctrine, with it is judged, and are judged, and you must have a reward according to your works, and he that comes to life, comes out of his wickedness, and not the wicked man enters into the kingdom of God, Rev. 21. and the promise is to the seed, and he that works iniquity departs from the seed, Gal. 3.16. And the Election obtains it, Rom. 11.7. Not him that wills, nor runs, But God that shows mercy; And whereas thou sayest the wicked manis ordained to life, without any cause in the Creature, less or more, This is just the Devil's Doctrine again, & to bring every one to hid his Talon and none neither to watch nor pray; for this is the creature, that brings him to lay a side wickedness, and to departed from sin and iniquity, which lets him see it, and covetous and drunkenness so through the obedience of the Spirit, and that is in the Creature that brings him to confess his sin, and for sake it, whereby mercy is showed; the power of God worketh in us saith the Apostle; And as they had been servants to unright cousness, so came to yield themselves servants unto righteousness, Rom. 6. How comes the commands of God to be obeyed, if there be not something in the creature that cause him to obey it? For thou sayest without any cause in the creature, why were all these expressions spoken in scripture, that they should obey all things that Christ commanded, Mat. 28.20. And all the statute, and Ordinances spoken of in the scriptures if there be not something in man to cause him to obey it: but thy intent is to make God unrighteous who respects no man's person, but gives to every man a reward according to works, Rev. 2.23. The one as well as the other, and all shall appear the judgement of Christ, 2 Cor. 9.10. He will judge the world in righteousness; but there is something in the creature; for every man that cometh into the world being enlightened, whereby he is capable of obeying or disobeying, and not believing comes to be condemned, and in believing he is saved, he hath the witness in himself, John 3.8. 1 John 5.10 For he that commits sin is the servant of sin, John 8.24. And there is no respect of persons with God, but whosoever doth righteousness is accepted of him, Acts 10.34, 35. The Apostle said, He perceived God was no respecter of persons, but whosoever doth wickedly he hates the light, and is condemned, but whosoever doth the truth, cometh to the light, John 3.21. and so out of condemnation, so thou teachest another Doctrine, so as I said before, The promise is to the seed, the seed is Christ, and Christ all and in all, 1 Cor. 15.28. And all ungodly and wicked men are shut out of the Kingdom of God, where no wicked men enters, one nor other, and man must be turned again from wickedness, before he encers, Rev. 21.8. Pr. He being asked what he would do with Quakers, and he said if he had been a Civil Magistrate, he would have thought it good service to have cut off all their heads. Ans. There ye may all see if he be not of cain's stock, and what an envy proceeds out of his mouth, and unchristian Spirit, and how would he convert them if they were out of the way? and how would he convince them, who would cut off their heads? hath not this proved the Quakers to be in the truth, and he out of it, and is not the command of Christ that ye should love your enemies? Mat. 5.44. Now ye may see he is out of the command and example, but followed the example of Cain the murderer, and doth not his envy show as much against the Magistrates as against the the Quakers, because they will not execute his malice, and slay them for him, and be his executioners? and were not these Priests as mad against the Magistrates, (as they are now against the Quakers) at Dunbar fight? and would not they have had their heads off? let their Pulpits witness, though now they admire their persons because of advantage, Judas 16. Who cannot hold in, but their shame must be uttered forth, who would slay the persons of men as Cain did; so woe from the Lord is gone out against you, who are envious, and strives to make the people envious, but the life of God is risen in the hearts of his people, with which they shall see you all, and the Quakers be out of the way of Cain, who be in the light of Christ Jesus the Saviour of the soul, in which they come to have a habitation in God, the Saviour of all men, especially of them that believe, 1 Tim. 4.10. So you that be out of the light be Vagabonds, though ye have great habitations in the earth, for Cain built a City yet a Vagabond, Gen. 4. Pr. It was asked him of a fore-ordained number to desiruction, and for what Christ wept over Jerusalem. He said, as he was humane he mourned, and his Godhead decreed them to Hell. Ans. This is a lying Doctrine of the Devil, for after many of them of Jerusalem came to be converted, as ye may read in Acts 2. And many of the Priests came to be obedient to the Faith, for all being gone astray both Jews and Gentiles, Rom. 3.9. concluded under sin, the pure, the eternal tendered over them; who had stopped their ears, and closed their eyes to that which was pure of God in them, that they might have come to that which is pure, and have been gathered under Christ's wings, Mat. 23.37. who is pure, and so have been converted and healed, and have heard with their ears, and have seen with their eyes. And as for the word humane, that is not Scripture language, it speaks not that language, and there were converted many thousands of the Jews, and they were pricked to the heart, when that the Apostle said, that was both Lord and Christ whom ye have crucified, Acts 2. (mark ye) here thou mayest see thyself to be a liar; for here was of the Jews and of Jerusalem, that he had wept over; thou sayest he had ordained them them to Hell (as he was God) which were converted afterwards; so thou wouldst make God unequal, that the Son is not in the Father, and divideth them, that the Son should weep over them, and the Godhead decree them to Hell, and did not Christ command his Apostles that they should not departed from Jerusalem? and was not the mighty conversion at Jerusalem? so hath not Christ wept over Jerusalem, and after was there not a mighty conversion there? And thou sayest he condemned them as God to Hell; there thou mayest see thyself in the Devil's Doctrine, 1 Tim. 4.1. Many thousands were converted at Jerusalem, which Christ wept over, before the Apostles departed from thence, where he gave them command to stay; so see thy Doctri●e is damnable, and thou errs from the Scriptures, let thy-mouth for ever be stopped: and are not ye found in the steps of them, Matth. 23. that Christ gives the mark of blind-guides to the multitude, unto the Disciples, which marks were such as the multitude might take notice of, and I believe the multitude will take notice of, and know you; first ye bind heavy burdens upon men's shoulders, ye are sayers and not doers, and all their works they do to be seen of men, Matth. 6. they love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chiefest seats in the Assemblies, greeting in the Markets, stands praying in the Synagogues, called of men Masters, they were swearers, they should scourge you in their Synagogues, and persecute, do not ye put out of your Synagogues? Christ should send Prophets and wise men among them, and they should persecute, and put out of the Synagogues, Mat. 23.34. They should shut up the Kingdom of Heaven against men, and do not ye do so that do deny the light, that lighteth every one that cometh into the world? do any come to the Kingdom, but who come to the light, which every man that cometh into the world is enlightened withal? may not the multitude take notice of these things, called of men Master, stand praying in the Synagogues, having long Robes, salutations in the Markets, uppermost rooms at feasts, puts out of the Synagogues, and swearers, and Christ said, swear not at all, Mat. 5.34. And be ye not called of men Master, for one is your Master, even Christ, and ye all are Brethren; now here is the marks of the blind guides, as ye may read, Matth. 23. Are they not a company of Swearers, and will they not swear for their own advantage? and were not the Priests always envious, and false accusers, provoking the Magistrates against the Disciples, against Christ, and against Jesus? did not the Priests say Jesus should die for crying against them, Jer. 26. And were not the Priests at work when any of the Saints were murdered, to stir up the multitude against them, or the Magistrates? Was not the chief Priests and Elders seeking false witness 〈◊〉 out Jesus to death? Mat. 26.39. And did not the High Priests say he had spoken blasphemy? it was Pilate that put him to death, did not the chief Priests persuade their multitude to ask Barrabbas, Matth. 27.20. and crucify Jesus, and did not they mock him? See how the Priests were always busy for blood, that all the righteous blood might come upon them, shed upon the earth, Matth. 23.35. And did not the Priests give money to Judas to betray Christ? and did not the Priests give large money to the Soldiers to tell a lie, and say his Disciples stole him away by night? Matth. 28.11, 12, 13. had not Paul authority from the High Priest to persecute? Acts 9.1, 2. and so get you your Authority from the Magistrates, and the people their Authority from you to persecute, and would not the chief Priests have murdered Paul afterwards, when he was converted, Acts 23. Acts 2.7. Did not a company come with swords and staves from the Priests with Judas to take Christ? Mark 14.13. as a troop of Robbers wait for a man; so doth a company of Priest's murder in the way by consent, and have not ye consented together? Hos. 6.2. Pr. That Christ scorned men when he bade them be persect because he knew it was impossible for them. Answ. This is wickedness and impudence to say Christ scorned men when he bade them be perfect. This is Antichrist and the Devil's Doctrine, for to say that Christ did command that which men should not come to, for Christ nor God commanded nothing but what should be attained unto, and it will be attained unto, and hath been attained unto; Christ said, Be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect, Mat. 5.4. he knew that they might be perfect if they come into the Kingdom of God, for there no unperfect thing must enter, Rev. 21. and so he did speak that which he knew people should come into, but they should come into it, if ever they came into the Kingdom of God; what is this to thee which cannot love enemies? for they that love enemies shall know perfection, and perfect love and patience have its perfect work, Jam. 1.4. the Apostles speak wisdom to them that were perfect, but not the world's wisdom which comes to nothing, 1 Cor. 2.6. and the work of the Ministry was for the perfecting of the Saints, till they all come into the unity of the faith, unto the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, and unto the measure and stature and fullness of Christ, Eph. 4. and they should not be any more tossed to and fro with the windy Doctrines of men, nor cunning craftiness wherewith they lie in wait to deceive, and there art thou tossed up and down with every wind, and far off the work of the ministry, when thou sayest blasphemously, Christ scorned men when he bade them be perfect; Christ did not scorn them, but thy doctrine, it is imperfect, and thou and you that transgress and abide not in the doctrine of Christ, thou and you are Anti-christs, as ye may read, 2 John 9.10. Pr. When it was asked him, of the words that Peter spoke of, concerning them that brought in damnable Heresies, and denied the Lord that bought them, he said they did but think the Lord had bought them, but they were not bought, but they thought they had been so. Ans. Here thou again with thy damnable Doctrine, dost go about to make Peter and Judas liars, who speaks contrary to scripture, and perverts their Doctrine, and the words of Peter are thus, even denying the Lord that bought them; 2 Pet. 2.1. and the words of Judas 4. denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ; and thou sayest the Lord had not bought them, but they thought he had bought them, woe and misery, man, will be thy portion, that thou should so wickedly pervert the Apostles Doctrine and Scripture, Acts 13.10. and bring in such damnable Doctrine, and devilish Doctrine, and speaks such lies in hypocrisy, whose conscience is seared with a hot Iron, 1 Tim. 4. it is time for people to turn away from you, who have so long deceived them. Pr. Concerning these words of Ezek. 18.28. If the righteous man turn away from his righteousness, his former righteousness shall be no more remembered; and he said the meaning of that scripture was, they thought they had been righteous, but they were not, but supposed it had been so. Answ. Here in this thou art a minister of unrighteousness, thou goest about to make God a liar, and the Prophets, and perverts the scriptures, for if he forsakes his righteousness, and commits sin and iniquity, and trespasses, he shall die, and not live in the righteousness; but if he forsake his sin, trespasses and transgressions, in the righteousness that he hath done and doth, he shall live; so God's ways are equal, Ezek. 18. And thou sayest they thought they had been righteous, but it was not so: And the Lord by the Prophet saith it was so, that they should live in their righteousness, and die if they depart from it, and transgressed here thou art a diminisher from the Prophets and Apostles words, whose name is diminished out of the book of life, read Rev. 22.19. Pr. He denied that Christ died for all men, but for the Elect. Answ. Contrary to John's Doctrine, who saith, he is the propitiation for our sins, and not for our sins only, but for the the sins of the whole world, 1 John 2.2. and so it is the unbeliever that is shut out; and not believing in the light that men are enlightened withal, with which light they might see the one offering, who tasted death for every man, Heb. 2.9. and doth enlighten every man that cometh into the world, that all through him might believe; and they that believe not in the light are condemned, Joh. 3.18. but believing in the light, shall come out of condemnation, and he is the Saviour of all men, but especially of them that believe, 1 Tim. 4.10. and the grace of God which brings salvation hath appeared to all men, which was the saints Teacher, Titus 2.11, 12. and they that turn it into wantonness, shall with it be condemned Judas 4. and they that set up a heap of teachers, 2 Tim. 4.3. after their own lusts, and went out from the Apostles doctrine, before the Apostles decease, 1 John 2.19. and have turned the grace of God that brings salvation, into wantonness, ever since, and saith it hath not appeared unto all men, which brings salvation, which is saving grace, and Christ Jesus doth enlighten every man that cometh into the world, that they might believe, and walk after him, and saith, they that follow him shall not abide in darkness, but shall become the children of light, and have the light of life, John 8.12. Now say they that hate the light, it is not sufficient, it is not a saving light, but they shall find it sufficient to condemme them, and their unbelief, for not believing in it; for believing in it, they come to have the light of life, John 8.12 and John 12.36. Pr. He being asked who were hirelings, if they were not that did take hire? his answer was, they were hirelings that did not take hire, and to prove it, he brought that scripture in Philipians of them that preached Christ of envy and strife. Answ. Now all may see what doctrine he brings, to pervert or rest the scriptures, Philip. 1.15. to prove them hirelings that do not take hire, that in the Philipians doth not prove that they were hirelings, neither did they take hire: so that for his purpose makes nothing, though for this purpose he brings that scripture, but that his folly and darkness might appear, and be made manifest by the light, for now to it his deeds are come, who is unfit to talk of the scripture. Pr. He said it was the clear mark of the Devil to go up and down from place to place to preach as the Quakers do. Answ. Now here in this he may charge all the prophets, Christ and his Apostles, which went up and down from place to place, Heb. 11. that this is the mark of the Devil, but this is too manifest to bring to light, and discover the Presbyterian Priests of Scotland, who lies in Dens and Corners, and fat benefits, and there stick in the earth, and are crept into houses, who say it is the Devils mark to go up and down to preach; but this is that they may manifest themselves to be judged by the practice of Christ and his Apostles, that their folly might appear unto all men, Luke 9.5.8. Heb. 11. likewise the Presbyterian Priest are turned like ranters, who saith whatsoever man doth, God hath a hand in doing of it, whether Good or Evil, if a man commit never so much sin, and live never so wickedly he shall go to Heaven if he be ordained there to come; how was God grieved when David sinned? the Lord was angry; the Lord was wrath, when the children of Israel sinned against him, it grieved the Lord that he had made man, when all flesh had corrupted his way, Gen. 6.6. and thou and you go about to make God the author of sin, and saith God hath a hand in it, whatsoever a man doth here: again you and thou be in the doctrines of Devils, what shall we say that God is the author of sin? God forbidden, Rom. 6. they that transgress the commandments of God, provoke him to anger, and though God created the evil, Isa. 49.7. yet his commandments was to man, that he should not go into it, Gen. 2.17. Gen. 4.7. Ezek. 18. but when he did, he transgressed the command of God; so he who saith if ye murder, God is the author of it, if ye persecute, God is the author of it, if ye do unrighteously God is the author of it: you that murder, persecute, and do not righteously, are of him that kept not the command of God, of whom ye are, Joh. 44. that would persecute and murder, thou art gone out of the command of God, and joined with the Devil, 1 John 3.8. that went out of the truth, the Devil he went out of his estate, and the woman harkened to him, and went out of her estate, and man to the woman, Gen. 3. The Jews went out of their state, when they persecuted, Mat. 27.25. Cain went out of his state, when he murdered, Gen. 4. The Christians went out of their estate, since the days of persecution, who had the name of Christianity; Cain went out of his state when he murdered, and Balaam went out of his state, when he coveted the wages of unrighteousness, and admired men's persons, Numb. 22. Judas 11. Core went out of his state when he gainsaid the truth, Num. 16. Judas 11. the false Prophet, and the Antichrist which is the Beast, and the mother of Harlots, went forth from the state of the Apostles, 1 John 2.19. which hath been since the days of the Apostles, and so all wars, and fightings, and adversaries, is because of being out of the truth, fallen out of it, James 4. there is pride and Lucifer, Isai. 14. and that is it that is of old ordained to condemnation, Judas 4. and to be kept down, and to be condemned everlastingly; and there the time that shall be witnessed fit for the fire, and Death and Hell; and the false Prophet, and the Dragon and the Serpent cast into it, Rev. 20.14. but leaven is known that leavens into the new lump, 1 Cor. 5.7. the everlasting fire that burns for ever, Mark 9.46. how are the professions, forms, and religions fallen from the state, and lost the state, and out of the state that Christ was in, the Prophets were in, Abraham was in, David was in, Moses and the Apostles was in; and remains in a form of their words, 2 Tim. 3.5. and murders them that enjoys their life, and persecutes them; The Devil abode not in the truth, John 8.44. Adam and Eve abode not in the truth, but transgressed, Gen. 3. Cain abode not in the truth when he murdered Abel, Gen. 4. The Jews abode not in the truth, but crucified the just, Jam. 5.6. The Antichrist, and the false-Prophets, since the days of the Apostles, and the Beast abode not in the truth, 1 john 2.19. that made the war against the Saints, Rev. 13. And here is the murderers, envious, and persecutors, warring, and fighters, and their sacrifice God never accepted, Gen. 4.5. in all ages: and these are them that persecuted those that was in the truth, whose sacrifice God accepted, to the witness of God in you all I speak; that you may see your fall from the truth, out of the Prophet's life, Christ's life, and the Apostles life; so be out of the commands, and fallen from God, and say that none can keep the commandments: that is the Word that shall stand for ever, so ye are they that loves not not God, Joh. 14.13. 1 Joh. 2.4. but are of the Beast and false Prophets that makes war against them that keep the commands of God, Rev. 22.11. so that which saith, none can keep the Commandments, is fallen out of the truth, and the Commandments of God, 1 john 2.4. joh. 8.44. And to him the truth is death, and the commands of God in which the Saints live, to whom the Commandments are not grievous, 1 john 5.3. Thomas Garwine, Priest of Edinburgh, his Doctrine and PRINCIPLES. Pr. THat the Child that is not sprinkled with outward water is in a damnable state, and worse than an infidel. Answ. Now here he and the rest of the Presbyterian Priests of Scotland may say Abraham was in a damnable state, Isaac was in adamnable state, Jacob was in a damnable state, and Joseph was in a damnable state, and David was in a damnable state, and John the Baptist was in a damnable state, which were not sprinkled by a Priest with outward water, nor named by the Priest, so thou and you with your traditions, that say a Child is in a damnable state, if ye do not sprinkle it with water; and the Apostle bids them not look at the things that are seen, and you are in the damnable state, and the damnable doctrine, teachers of lies; and many simple people have been deceived by you, and given over to believe you, but God hath taken the vail off their hearts, that you begin to be seen: and their salvation shall they know stands not in elements, as though you, with your sprinkling Infants with outward water, could bring out of the damnable state; Oh ye deceivers, did not the Apostle say, they that were Circumcised, Christ profited them nothing? Gal. 5.2 ye have long deceived people with your beggarly rudiments, and elements, and doctrines, and traditions, Col. 2. hatched up at Schools, and never commanded of God; and say, if people will not observe your traditions, or your elements which you call (a Papist word) Sacrament, and perishing, they not observing it, are in a damnable state, and worse than the Heathen and Infidels; an Infidel, is an Heathen, one that knows not God; But your generation says it is blasphemy to say any hath known God, and hath seen God, and spoken to God: so they themselves have concluded to be Heathen: The Heathen know not God: The Heathen observes traditions; and they that know God cannot observe the traditions of the Heathen: but obeys the Apostles doctrine, and touches not, tastes not, nor handles the traditions of men and Ordinances which will perish, so not saying; so they that observe not traditions are not worse than Heathens: but they that observe traditions are as the Heathens, and be out of the Apostles doctrine in their own traditions and rudiments, and are offended at those that will not touch them. Robert Semple Priest of Lasmahagow came to George Wear of Saffield to reason with him, and he laid down these following things for his doctrine and principles, His first doctrine and principles was to prove the lawfulness of being called of men master; standing praying in the Synagogues, going in long Robes, and he mentioned Ezras' Pulpit of wood upon which he stood, and read the Law to the people; and for the rest he said nothing, for his mouth was stopped concerning these things, being found in the steps of the Pharisees, Mat. 23. we do grant that Ezra had a Pulpit of wood, but you profess yourselves Ministers of the Gospel and plesbyterians, and are ye said to run to Ezra, in the Law for a Pulpit? now you have showed yourselves what you are; and brought your deeds to the light; but the Priesthood was made by the Law of God: so were you never; that priesthood changed, and the Law changed also by which it was made, and pulpit and Tithes ended; and Christ the everlasting Priesthood witnessed; so thou and you have proved yourselves no Ministers of the Gospel, Christ Jesus, the power of God, and the wisdom of God, the ever lasting Priesthood, who is the end of Priests, Pulpits and Tithes, that was true in their place. So you that have got up another Pulpit, Tithes, Temple, like Readers of the Law, and not like ministers of the Gospel, and Priests, are separated from the Apostles in the delusion, and from Christ the everlasting Priesthood, Heb. 7. and are them that Judas 19 and 2 Pet. 2. speaks of, That separates themselves, having not the Spirit that they were in who witnessed against Pulpit, Tithes, and Priesthood, and witnessed Christ the everlasting Priesthood, which Pulpit, Tithes, and Priesthood ye are crying up, and so Antichrist. George Wear bad him prove his practice for sprinkling of Infants, and whether or no they were not to believe before they were Baptised. He said the promise was to Abraham and his seed; George answered him, it was not to seeds, as to many, but to thy seed which is Christ. Robert the Priest said, That seed Christ, was natural, contrary to the Apostles doctrine, Gal. 3.16. who said Christ was the power of God, 1 Cor. 1.14, 15. and Christ the mystery, Col. 1.2.7. The first man is of the earth earthly, the second man is the Lord from Heaven heavenly, 1 Cor. 15. the spiritual man judgeth all things, 1 Cor. 2.15. The seed of the woman bruiseth the serpent's head, Gen. 3.15. and the promise is to the seed, and the seed is Christ the power of God, And Christ the seed is the spiritual man and so not natural, but the Priest said the seed is natural. Now let all see in this whether he be not given up to delusion, to speak lies in hypocrisy, 1 Tim. 4.1. to delude and deceive people for dishonest gain, Ezek. 22.13. Which seed he and all the Presbyterians shall find spiritual to judge them, and bruise the heads of them, and break their wicked cords and bonds of iniquity which they have laid upon the people, Mat. 23. Ezek. 34. Acts 15. The day is at hand that their judgement is come; by that man whom God hath ordained, Acts 17.31. and to judge the world in righteousness, and to give to every man a reward according to his works, Ps. 62.12. Rev. 22.12. who shall give to him an account for every idle word they shall speak in the day of judgement, Mat. 12.36. And William Kenedie came to George Wear, and promised him that he should have a public hearing, he hearing what the Priest and the rest of the Elders charged him withal, And when he came they would not give him a hearing; and so found them truce-breakers that are to be turned away from, 2 Tim. 3. and such as creep into houses, and be of themselves, boasters, proud, highminded, as Jannes and Jambres, who have a form of godliness, and denys the power, which are to be turned away from: And after that the said Priest did excommunicate George Wear in in another parish without any hearing, nor would not let him know for what they excommunicated him, which was a work of darkness to make the people's minds envious against the just: upon which George Wear went to their meeting place to read a paper to him, to show why he denied him; and two Priests, Robert Semple, and John Hume being there, bade the people to knock down that excommunicated (Swinger) which is in English (Rogue) upon which the people did obey the Priest, and did beat, and knock George Wear down to the ground; and might have murdered the man, had not the Lords mercy been seen, so they be in cain's way, in envy; Gen. 4. Judas 11. And George got up again, and the Priests bade the people strike him; and they did beat him, and pluck him by the hair of the head; and the Priests bade beat them away; and they did so. And after the Priest summoned George to the Court; and told the Bailiff he would prove it by the Scripture, he must be stoned to death; now here is the murdering Jew's nature, that stoned the prophets, and stoned the Apostles; and stoned Steven, and took up stones to stone Christ, Mat. 23.24. John 8.59. Acts 7.58 And bloody Butchers, man-slayers, no Ministers of Christ: did not the false prophets go always with the beast to war? Rev. 13. Rev. 16. against Saints and the Lamb; and did not the chief priests stir up the rulers against Christ, and had not the priests a hand to murder? and was not the priest at the examination of Steven, and the Council gave order that he should be stoned to death? and did not the Priests stir up the Rulers and Magistrates, though they themselves did not often do it, which had not the power, but they stirred up the Magistrates to do it? And they came to be their slaughterer's, to execute their malice, and be their executioners; ye do not, ye may say, it is the Magistrates which ye stir up to do it. It is not said, the Priests did slay and crucify Christ, but Pilate, but the Priests had power amongst the multitude to persuade the multitude to ask the murderer, Mat. 27. (which had murder in their hearts) and Pilate did the thing; and did not God overthrow Jerusalem, and destroy the power of the Magistrates there, and priests both? and hath not God done it in many ages for executing the Priest's malice, and their envy against the just, and his anointed? have not ye many examples set down in the scripture, which ye may all take notice of it. Therefore take heed all ye Magistrates, how you execute and avenge the malice and wickedness, and envy, of any one against the just: for the envy of the envious, and the wickedness of the wicked shall slay himself, Psal. 34.21. and the righteous shall see it. Therefore you that are called Christian Magistrates, execute not, neither be ye executioners of their madness, and envy of those who calls themselves Ministers of Christ. That would have you to slay, to stone, to stocks, to prison, and to put to death them that be contrary to them; those be murderers in cain's way, man-slayers, wrestlers against flesh and blood, and not Ministers of the Gospel which saith, Love enemies, and render to no man evil for evil, Mat. 5.44. and this differs from the Scribes and Pharisees who loved their own, and persecuted others, and stoned others, and drew the Magistrates to do it, which saith the Ministers of Christ, we wrestle not with flesh and blood, but against principalities and powers, and spiritual wickednesses in high places, Eph. 6.12. Now those Ministers that would have the persons of men slain, are like Cain and Jezabel, the beast and false Prophets, that slew Abel, Gen. 4.1 Kings 21. the persons of men stoned, imprisoned, and put to death, are as the Jews Priests, and those Magistrates that executes their malice, are as the Jews Magistrates, unchristian Magistrates. And so those are they that are wrestling, stoning, striking and imprisoning against flesh and blood. And in the mean time spiritual wickedness rules among them, and rulers of darkness in high places, where flesh and blood are wrestled against; so in this state both Ministry and Magistracy are blind, that be out of the fear of God; they turn their sword backward, whilst they are executing the Priest's malice, and the Priests will strengthen the hands of evil doers; and provoking to slay, and against flesh and blood wrestling, and do not profit the people at all, and stirs up the multitude against the just; that he may keep himself in his place for his own ends, and admiring the Magistrates persons, and men's, because of advantage, Judas 16. & respects their persons, which shows they be out of the faith, Jam. 2. which gives victory over the world, 1 John 5.4. and out of the doctrine of Christ and the Apostles; now the Magistrates is for the punishment of evil doers, and for the praise of them that do well: which walks in the life, which he that doth evil goes from; where the rulers of darkness and spiritual wickednesses are; and this Magistrate he can see, he turns not the sword backward, he answers that of God in every one; and is for a praise to them that do well, 1 Pet. 2.14. so every evil doer acts contrary to that of God in them; now a Minister of Christ wrestles not against flesh and blood, but against spiritual wickednesses in high places; so every one that doth evil acts contrary to that of God in him, so the higher power goes above him; Rom. 13.1. So the higher power is above him, and before he was, all power in heaven and in earth is given to the Son of God, john 5.22. above all the powers of the earth, that lighteth every man that cometh into the world, john 1.9. but they who does evil, goes from the light, and so the higher power goes against him. The Magistrates that be in the power, is a terror to the evil doers that acts contrary to the light wherewith every one that cometh into the world be enlightened, The Magistrates be in that power which goes over him, and is a praise to them that be in the light, and the Ministers of God is to bring from under the occasion of the Magistrates sword. George Wear being with his friend standing in the field near Ford meetinghouse, as they call it, he neither speaking, nor acting any thing against any man, but standing in the fear of the Lord with his friend; William Lowry, and John Hambleton called Justices, committed him to prison, where they lay twenty and three days; and here is his innocency preached. The original righteousness was before the fall; The original of self-righteousness was that which fell, and is in the fall; that transgressed. And in the Catechism which is tolerated by the general Assembly, and in the Catechise of Scotland, called, A Short Catechism, They say that the Word of God is contained in the Scriptures. Answ. And the Scriptures are writings; and it saith, God is the Word, John 1.1. 1 Kings 8.27. Solomon saith, The Heaven of Heavens cannot contain him, and you say he is contained in the Scriptures with his writings: and you say there is Three persons; and the Scripture doth not speak of Three persons, and the Jews had the Scriptures, and knew not Christ, the Word of God: Then ye tell people of an outward ordinary means, by which Christ Communicates the benefit of Redemption; The word Sacraments; the Scripture doth not speak of Three Persons, and Sacraments, they are Papists words; of them ye have learned them; the means of salvation is not ordinary, or outward; but Christ is the salvation, who is Eternal, Heb. 5.9. and they that come to him, come to the end of the outward, Col. 1.27. Ye say the Sacraments are the Effectual means to salvation; and ye say again, they are not as they are themselves: (so here is confusion) but only by the blessing of Christ, and his spirit in them. How do ye differ from the Papists? for they say he is in them; and ye say his Spirit is in them, and where his Spirit is, is not he? Oh blind, are ye found out? go ye home to your Mother the Papist; where Christ Spirit is, he is. And ye say your two Sacraments, is Baptism, and the Lords Supper. The Scripture doth not call Baptism, and the Lords Supper, two Sacraments; which Names you and the Papists adore and worship, which you have given to them; again, you in your Catechise call the First day in the week the Sabbath-day: Where did ever any of the Ministers of Christ, or Christians, un-apostatized call it so? are not you come unto the breach, and guilty of your own judgement? Of the third Commandment, when ye give another Name to the Scriptures, than they give themselves, in calling them the Word, and calling Baptism, and the Supper, the Sacraments? Exodus 20. Moses saith, God spoke all these words, when he gave forth the Commandments, (mark words) and the words of Christ are Spirit and Life, John 6.63. God is the Word, John 1.1. and Christ is the Word, Rev. 19.13. and the Word became Flesh, and dwelled among us, John 1.14. And them that had the words of the Scriptures, which cannot be broken, John 10.35. the Law and the Prophets; they knew not Christ, the Word, before they be brought to the light that Christ hath enlightened them with, and they be brought to the Spirit, John 5.37. John 8.19. Can the whole world say the Lords Prayer in truth? or was it taught his Disciples, or to the world? doth not people draw nigh to God with their lips that say it, Isaiah 20.13. and are not in the light, which every man is lighted, that cometh into the world withal: Can ye say the Lords Prayer, which is, Forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive them that trespass against us, without Hypocrisy? How do ye forgive them, when ye would have them persecuted, and would have them stoned, you that be Teachers of the people? and how do ye love your neighbours as yourselves? and fulfil the Law and the Prophets; Mat. 7.12. to do so as you would be done by? To ye Presbyterians of Scotland, I speak that be teachers, whose principles is to stone, chop off heads, and persecute them that be contrary minded to you, would ye have those that be contrary to your mind's stone you to death, chop off your heads, imprison, and banish you, and persecute, and excommunicate you? This is the Law and the prophets, to do as ye would be done by: as others should do to you, so do unto them: but Christ who is the end of the Law and the prophets, Rom. 10.4. saith his doctrine is to love enemies, Mat. 5.44. and saith, if men persecute you, pray for them, and bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them that persecute you, and despitefully use you, that you may be the children of your father which is in heaven: who makes the Sun to shine upon the evil and the good, and the rain to descend upon the just and the unjust, if ye love them that love ye, what reward have ye, the Publicans and Pharisees do so, and the apostatised Christians who are got into the forms of words, but out of the life of the Saints of Christ and the Apostles, and there they are saluting their brethren only, but saith Christ, be ye perfect as your heavenly Father is perfect, which you stand against; so ye are they that have denied the one offering which hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified, Heb. 10.14. And makes the blood of Christ of none effect; which cleanseth from all sin, and the new Covenant, which blots out all sin and transgression; and all upon the earth professors and worshippers, that call yourselves Brothers, and Christians, and offerers, of what sort soever, that have but the name, before thou offers be reconciled to thy brother, go leave the gift at the altar, and be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift, Mat. 5.24. then will the Lord accept thy offering, and all upon the earth that prayeth; so that ye do forgive others that trespass against you, as you would have the Lord forgive you your trespasses. Oh how is the beauty of the Church of Presbyterians marred, and deformed! oh how are they become Cages of unclean birds, Synagogues of Satan! Oh how are their Teachers become envious men, and murderers, of cain's Stock, in whom the eternal life is not abideing: That would club, stone, and chop off heads of strangers, servants of the Lord God, and Sons, and Daughters, and Excommunicate, and put out of their Synagogues; these things have I spoken unto you, that ye should not be offended, John 16.2. they shall excommunicate you, yea, the time cometh, that they that kill you, shall think they do God good service; these things will they do unto you, because they never knew the Father, nor me. These things have I told you before, that when the time comes, ye may remember that I told you of them, John 16.4. so the say of Christ are fulfilled by you that Excommunicate, and put out of the Synagogues of the Jews, ye are like, and these are their marks; that they neither know the Father, nor the Son of God. These Temples, Pulpits, Priests, that are set up, since the days of the Apostles, are amongst the false Prophets that Christ said should come, Mat. 7. Mat. 24. and John saw was come, 1 John 2.18.19. and 1 John 4.1, 2, 3. which went forth from them, which all the world went after, Rev. 13.3. And these Excommunications, from you are, that none should buy nor sell, but such as worship the Beast, and receive his Marks, Rev. 13.14. And it was the Beast that would kill and destroy, and the Dragon, and the False Prophets, them that kept the testimony of Jesus, Rev. 12. here is the patience and faith of the Saints; that by the blood of the Lamb that overcomes, that have the testimony of Jesus, and kept the commands of God; so the Jews excommunications which had the true Temple, true Tithes, and true Priests, which had the Figure, the Type, Christ being come the substance, Heb. 10.34. the everlasting Priesthood, Heb. 7. the everlasting Covenant, and the one offering, Heb. 10. so them that went from the priesthood went to Christ; The Jews did excommunicate them out of the Synagogues; now they did not know the Son nor the Father that did excommunicate, John 16. though they had the figures and Types of the Son of God. They held up their outward things; and saw not the Son of God the substance when he was come, so these knew not the Son of God nor the Father that excommunicated and put out of the Synagogues; which Christ bade them that was to be put out of the Synagogues, not be offended at those things; he told them before they came to pass, That when these things come to pass ye may remember that I told you. Now those are they that Christ said should come; and the Apostles saw was come, that went forth from them; which hath got up Tithes, and Temples, and Pulpits, and Priests, and the Priests are excommunicating out of their Synagogues, and these must neither buy nor sell with them, nor eat, nor drink, nor have nothing to do with them, except they will worship the beast, or his image, and fall down to him; and this is the worship of the Beast got up since the Apostles: who apostatised from the true Church, and went forth from them, which all the world wondered after and worshipped, and received his mark and his image; They that buy and sell, and will let others do so with them, that are of them that make war against them that keep the testimony of Jesus, and the commands of God, and against the Saints and the Lamb; but the Lamb and the Saints shall have the victory: But the Lamb of God, the seed of God is risen; the beast and the false Prophet is taken, which hath long deceived the Nations, Revelations 2. The old Dragon, the Serpent, the murderer, the deceiver, the devourer, the Mother of Harlots, Babylon which hath made all Nations drunk with her fornications, which hath corrupted the earth, Rev. 14. which the beasts, and the false Prophets that deceives the Nations, and the Antichrist, the false Prophets; say they are come but now: These are deceivers of the Nations; that say they come but now; for Christ said they should come, and John said they were come before his decease, whereby he said he knew it was the last time; and in the Revelations he said, all the world went after them, and all Nations have drunk of the wine of her fornications, and the Kings of the earth have committed fornications with her, Rev. 17.2. (mark the word have) and the false Prophets say they come but now, and now is the last time. And these are the deceivers of the Nations that say so. Now are people but coming from them; and now is the judgement of the great whore come; and now is vials of wrath to be poured upon her that hath corrupted the earth, and now shall they go into captivity, Rev. 13. Rev. 1.4. and 18. And now shall people come to that which the false Prophets, the beast, and the Mother of Harlots went from, all these heads and horns, and Crowns, will turn against others with their tongues, Languages; and Babylon, that hath been amongst them; and now is the seed of God risen, which overthrows all the excommunicators upon the earth, both beast and false Prophets and Jews both, which seed of God brings to see to the beginning. Glory to the highest for ever; and Jew's and Gentiles, beasts and false Prophets, and is at the top of them all, and the corner stone is laid. John Castairs, and James Durram Priest of Glasgow, when the Fast was appointed by the English, they kept their Houses, and caused their servants to work, and took notice of all those that countenanced the English Fast, and the first day they preached, then after they said it was necessary that a day of Humiliation should be, and that all people should be humbled for the powers they saw now ruling in the land, for they were giving liberty and toleration to all sects, and blasphemies, as Anabaptists, Independants, and said that the Baptists denied all worship and Ordinances, as they were and aught to be according to the Ecclesiastical Government, which Government is the true hedge of the Church of Christ. Lodowick Simerell Priest of Munkland, he said before several persons that no true Justice had been, or was since those enemies came to this Nation, neither would be until the Lord remove them in his own time: Henry Foreside Priest of Lenyey, and if Paul had been alive he would have stoned the Quakers; and it was Christian zeal to stone them; and many friends were stoned and beat, and blood is shed: those that stoned the Apostles and Saints, and haled them before judgement seats and Magistrates; and the chief Priests had a hand in putting Christ to death, persuaded them so to do, and the chief Priests had a hand in stoning of Steven to death, and the Priest had a hand in casting Jeremy into the dungeon, and into the stocks, and said he was worthy of death; and the high Priest Ananias examined Paul, and Peter and John was examined by the Priest, was put out of the Temple by the Priests and Rulers, and charged no more to speak in that name; and such were these who had a form of godliness, but denied the power, and such ever stirred up the people to blood and tumults against the harmless, and innocent in the truth; Therefore come to the light you that have tasted of the power of the Lord God, that with it you may see and judge how the Priests blinded the Magistrates by flattery, and so truth came to be their enemies. How do you receive strangers, ye Presbyterians of Scotland, and obey the commands of God, and the Apostles commands, which was, be not forgetful to entertain strangers; for some have entertained Angels unawares: when as ye would have the servants of the Lord prisoned, and stocked, and stoned to death, or their heads chopped off? so you are them that be in cain's way, vagabonds from the Spirit of God, now a vagabond hath not a habitation in God, but wanders from the witness of God in him, like Cain who built a City, and called it after his Son's name, Heb. 13.2. Gen. 4. I am the light of the world that lighteth every one that cometh into the world saith Christ the Saviour of our souls, every one going from the light ye be enlightened withal, ye are vagabonds, and have have not a habitation in God; and so goes into cain's way, envious and would slay; Balaams and Cores way, which are with the light condemned; and like unto those Jews, That haled out of the Synagogues, that Christ spoke of that goes in long Robes, and are called of men Master, but Christ saith, be ye not called of men Master, for one is your Master even Christ, Mat. 23. Christ said they that went in long Robes, loved the chiefest places in the assemblies; should hale out of the Synagogues, and they that do these things be gone from the light, John 3.19. Joh. 16.2. All this persuading of corrupt Magistrates to persecute them that reprove sin in the gates, in the Steeple-houses, streets and highways, is because men have a self-ish end, and a private interest to themselves, both Professors of Scriptures and Teachers, and them that doth persecute hath a self-ish honour, and an interest to themselves, and so the self-ish Professors, Teachers, Magistrates that persecutes for them; they have a form of godliness, but the witness lies slain in them, and they matter not for that rising; for in that rising all the deeds, words and actions come to light, and then if the witness of God arise in them, they will not be offended at such as reproves sin in their Gates, Markets, Steeple-houses and Streets; for all upon the earth, while they are from the witness of God in them, they are corrupted, and they may get the form of godliness, the form of Christ's, the Prophets and Apostles words, and live out of the power, and be in the Religion that is vain, for none upon the earth comes to the power of godliness, but first they must come to the witness of God in them, and there is none upon the earth that ever comes to the first principle of the pure Religion, but first they must come to the witness of God in them. There's none knows the Scriptures given forth from the power and Spirit of God, which was in the Saints, but first they are brought to the Spirit of God in their own particulars. Come all you Officers and Soldiers, now after ye have ease, and have overcome your enemies without; take heed lest you sit down in your ease and fullness, and fall down into the earth, and flesh, and feast, and fullness, and pride, and so corrupts the earth, and yourselves, and not come down to the witness of God in you; whereby the enemy of God and of your own souls might be slain, that you might come to find rest and peace in God, after your outward wars, and so come to the inward wars, which takes away the cause of the outward, whereby you may all come into true understanding, to answer that of God in every one, for them that do evil, act contrary to that of God in them, to such the sword is a terror, and a praise to them that do well; which is led by the Spirit of God, up to God who is pure, out of the evil: and all Magistrates swords upon the earth, should reach to that which is pure in every one to the soul, so it takes away that which wars against it, that breaks the outward; so comes the soul to be subject to the higher power, that's above the transgressor, which all the Magistrates and Rulers upon the earth must give an account to; and there is none upon the earth that comes to worship God in the spirit and in truth, but who first come to own that of God in them; and there is none upon the earth, that are like to retain God in their knowledge, nor his Covenant, while their minds is reprobated from that of God in them. There all may see the Covenant of Grace to all men, and the Covenant of light and life with the Father, he gave him for a Covenant of light to the Gentiles, to the Heathen, I will make a new Covenant with the house of Israel and Judah the people of God, I will write my Law in their hearts and their minds, so saith Christ, the Covenant of God, I am the light of the world, and doth enlighten every man that cometh into the world, that all men through the light of the Covenant of God might believe it is the Covenant of God, that every man that cometh into the world is enlightened withal, and every one that hates the light wherewith they are enlightened withal, hates the Covenant, and the light condemns him, and here all men may see the free grace of God that brings salvation hath appeared to all men; the grace of God that brings the salvation, the turning the grace of God into wantonness, and walking despitefully against the Spirit of grace, they neglect their salvation, and bring punishment and condemnation upon them, as it's written in Judas. Concerning Election, and what is elected, the grace of God which brings salvation hath appeared to all men, the clearing God's Justice, and the fault is in man for his condemnation. There is a precious thing in these Scots, but there is a filthy, beastly, dirty thing lieth over. Lodowick Semerell, Priest of the new Steeplehouse of Monkeland, his proceed towards Margaret Hambleton. MArgaret Hambleton went to him to ask the causes why he would excommunicate her; he said for three causes: First, For that she denied the Presbytery. Secondly, For denying the Ordinances. Thirdly, For not forsaking the company of seducers and heretics. Her answer to the first was; your Presbytery, I do deny, because it is tyrannical, and hath no power given of God, but what ye take from men; for ye rule as Lords over God's heritage: The Priest said she was ignorant of Scriptures, for they spoke of the laying on the hands of the Presbytery; she than bid him read the Hebrew copy, which said, the laying on the hands of the Elders, and true Elders that ruled for the Lord I own, but such as thou that preaches for filthy lucre, that are Covetous, (as Timothy) I deny. Secondly, Thy saying I deny the Ordinances, is a lie; for all the Ordinances of Jesus Christ I own, as Preaching, Praying, or Reading, as any is moved of the Lord, so to do I own them; for he that ministereth out of the ability that God hath given him; or any speaking as the Oracle of God, them I own: and this is according to plain Scripture, 1 Pet. 4.11. Thirdly, For that he said, I would not forsake the company of Seducers, and Heretics: I answered, that way thou calls Heresy, worship I the Eternal God: and this is according to plain Scripture, Acts 24.14. And it saith, Keep company with them that calls upon God out of a pure heart, 2 Tim. 2.22. And I know they are the people, therefore thou denies the Scripture, and I obey it; for I witness that Scripture to be fulfilled, Isay 24.5. they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinances, and broken the everlasting Covenant. I being gone from home about my outward occasions, the Priest excommunicated me, knowing that I was not there to answer him, and he charged all people to have no dealing in the outward with me, when I came home the people stood at a distance from me, so I went to him that I might have the first dealing with himself, and paid him some money that my husband owned him, and he received it from my hand, than I asked him the cause why he bid the people have no deal with me; yet he himself was the first; but all his answer was, saying to his man, put her to the door; then I asked what evil I had done, or wherein I had offended; so I being speaking to the people, showing them how he was out of the moderation, and out of the bonds of Christian practtice; as I did speak, he cried the more put her to the door, (although I had paid for apart of the house building, and so had an interest in it) than I told him he was out of the practice of the ministers of Christ, and also out of all moderation. After that he caused a man to make repentance in his Congregation, for selling me two pecks of Lint Seeds: And soon after the Priest himself came to me to borrow a book which I lent him, than I asked him why he made the man make repentance for that which he himself did practice; he replied, it was for eating and drinking with me, for he said, The Scripture forbids to eat and drink with an excommunicated person; but I said, the Scripture saith, The Drunkard, the Fornicator, the Extortioner, the Covetous, and the Idolater, with such a one, eat not; I asked him if I was such a one, he said, I neither can, nor will say so of you, but I could be content you should live beside me all days of my life (without excommunicating you) if the Presbytery would suffer me, and so is judged out of his own mouth, to act contrary to his Conscience, and to be a man-pleaser. Afterwards he preached lies to the people, saying, That the Quakers received money from the Pope of Rome, and said, that was the cause that so many went from their Church; then I and several Friends went to tax him for his lie, but he hide himself, so that he would not come to us, so is found a worker of darkness out of the Light of Christ. The Causes laid down by the Priests why they excommunicated Friends. THe Cause why they excommunicated William Osburne is this, Because he declared the Ministers of Scotland Enemies to Christ's Kingdom and Gospel, which are bloodthirsty men, and bore his Testimony against one of them, which by violence the Priests were placing in his Land, whose name is William Sterling, they put him violently out of his own ground, and for these reasons excommunicated him. Lewis Simerel Priest of New Monkeland, for these Reasons, viz. Because Margaret Hambleton denied the power of their Presbyter: Secondly, Because she would not forsake the company of the people of God whom they call Quakers, Seducers and Heretics, and also for denying their Ordinances which are by their own wills, therefore they excommunicated her. James Nesmith Priest of Hambleton, excommunicated John Huchison, and would give him no reasons for what he did it; neither is there any known, except it be for owning the people of God called Quakers. John Hume Priest of Lesmahagow, and William Simerel Priest of Petenace, with the rest of the Presbytery at Lannerick, did excommunicate George Wear because he harboured the Quakers, and for the denying the power of their Presbytery, and after they had excommunicated him, Robert Semple Priest of that Parish, viz. Lesmahagow, sent Andrew Clealand Constable, to tell George Wear, if he would give satisfaction to the Kirk, they would receive him in again upon easy terms, etc. George Wear, said, because they could not show him the way to God, which his soul breathed after, who had been long enough under them, he could not own them; and when the Constable told the Priest what he had said, the Priest said, If it be so with him yet, I protest to God we will make him Winter and Summer without. William Mitchel, John Mitchel, Robert Tod, Mary English, Elizabeth Lappey, Marian Mitchel, did Peter Kid, Priest of Douglass, with the rest of the Presbytery of Lannerick, did excommunicate them for these reasons as followeth: 1. Priest: You teach that every man and woman gets sufficient light from Christ. Ans: Which is according to John's Doctrine, Joh. 1.9. who saith Christ hath lightened every one that cometh into the world, which light is sufficient to as many as believe in it. 2. Pr: You cry down Ministers, and say there is no need of preaching. Ans: Not of envious murderers, blood-thirsters, covetous hirelings. 3: Pr. You destroy the Communion of the body and blood of the Lord, signified and represented by Bread and Wine. Ans. We which have the substance, have the end of the shadow, and the communion is the end of the shadow, and of that which is for memory and shows; which is not the body, in which body is the unity. Pr. 4. You say that the children of God have no sin in this life, and teach so. Ans. The Scripture says, he that is born of God doth not fin, and is he not a child of God? Pr. 5. You say and teach that the light that Christ gives to every one is perfect, and so bids them follow the light that is within them. Ans. Which is according to Christ's Doctrine, Joh. the 1. and John the 3. and 2 Cor. 4. 6. Pr. You deny Matthew, Mark, Luke and John to be the Gospel. Ans. The Scripture says the Gospel is the power of God, Rom. 1. 7. Pr. You deny Baptism in the Church to be a seal of his Covenant, and cry down that. Ans. Because there is no Scripture for sprinkling of Infants, but Baptism we own. 8. Pr. You deny the Lords Day, and would have it taken out of the world, though it be set apart in Scripture for the Divine Worship. Ans. All days are owned to be the Lords, who is worshipped in Spirit which we own. 9 Pr. You go abroad and trouble people in in the worship of God. Ans. We do not trouble them that worship God in Spirit, but will-worshippers, who are in their persecuting feigned humility: Also Thomas Jack, Gabriel Hood, James Cook, Jannet Hambleton, Gawine Scevenson, John Hambleton, Alexander Hambleton, Barbara Hambleton, Jennet Hambleton, Andrew Hambleton, Jane Hambleton, Katherine Hart, Katherine Hambleton, John Allen, Jane Hambleton, William Hambleton, Margaret Hambleton, John Hart, Jennet Atkin, John Hart, Alexander Hart, Jane Hart, Gawine Hart, John Lacock, Jennet Brown, Thomas Craiqqe, John Torrens, Katherine Hambleton, Katherine Wear, Jennet Wear, were excommunicated by. Matthew Mackel, and the rest of the Presbytery at Hambleton for these causes as followeth: 1. Pr. You affirm that the Scriptures are not the word of God. Ans. The Scriptures are the words of God, Christ is the Word, and the Scriptures are not Christ. 2. Pr. You affirm that there is no rule according to which a man should walk, but the rule within him. Ans. The Spirit is the rule into all truth, and not the Scripture itself. Pr. 3. You affirm that every man hath a light sufficient to lead him to Christ within him. Ans. Yea 2 Cor. 4. the light that shines in his heart, will give him the knowledge of the glory of God. Pr. 4. You affirm that the Scriptures are not to be preached. Ans. That is false, but they are not to be made a trade of by you. Pr. 5. You affirm that there is no blessing pronounced to the preaching of the word. Ans. Not to you that make a trade of the words: but they that preach the word has the blessing, for Christ gives the woe to you, Matth. 23. Pr. 6. You affirm that the Ministry is no standing Ordinance of Jesus Christ. Ans. We affirm that Christ must preach the Gospel, but we deny you who preach for filthy lucre, whose Ordination is by man, and not by Christ. Pr. 7: You affirm that no man that hath faith, hath sin. Ans: We affirm that faith purifieth the heart, and gives victory over sin; which faith you say is not pure, and curses them that says it is. Pr. 8: You affirm that there is no external means to be followed in order to salvation. Ans. That which is the means to salvation is eternal. Pr. 9 You affirm these to be Ministers of the man of sin, and reprobates concerning the faith: that says, whilst a man is on the earth, he cannot be set free from sin. Ans. We say, yea we do so, which is according to the Apostles Doctrine which says they were made free-from sin, and they spoke wisdom to them that were perfect, and they were sanctified. Pr. 10. You affirm no Sabbath Day to be observed. Ans. Neither do you yourselves, but what you invent, and you do not keep that well neither, but Christ the Sabbath we own. Pr. 11. You are deserters of all public Ordinances. Ans. The Ordinances of Christ we are not, but man's Inventions we are. Pr. 12. You rail against the Dispenser's of public Ordinances, and those that countenance those Ordinances. Ans. Railing we deny, but declaring against any invention of man we own; and railing is your own, for your Pulpits declares it, that they should neither buy nor sell, eat nor drink with them in the Nation. These Accusations were Extracted, and Subscribed by the Priest's Clerk in this manner following: Mr. John Bonave. And after the Priests had excommunicated the aforesaid persons, they caused a general Synod to meet at Glasgow, and made an Order and published it in all their Old Mass-Houses, That none of those People called Quakers should have any entertainment; and that no people should have any dealing with them in any civil affairs, not to give cursed men work, (as they styled our Friends) and hindering men to work for them, and that under the pain of Excommunication. The extent of which Order is, That they should neither buy nor sell, eat nor drink with them in the Nation. Peter Kid, Priest of Dauglass, summoned William Michael and Robert Todd to their Presbytery at Leanarick; and when William Michael appeared before them, him whom they called Moderator, whose name is William Jack, Priest of Carlook, commanded him to take off his Bonnet; and when he refused, Richard Gollon, Bailiff of the Town, who sat amongst them to execute their malice, risen up in rage, and took it off his head, and the Priests would not let him give it him again; but keeps it still from him: and he staying in Town all night, and a friend of his, called Richard Ray: the Priest and Bailiff of the Town came about the tenth hour of the night to the Inn where they lay, and charged the people of the house to put them out, notwithstanding they kept one of their Bonnets, and the night was very stormy: Witnesses of this, James White, Agnas Forrest. And here is the Priests fruits. Peter Kidd summoned William Michael, and Mary English to the quarter Sessions at Hambleton, but did not appear to lay any thing to their Charge: when they came back again, Marry English went to him, and asked him why he summoned them, and did not appear to make known what he had against them, but he answered not one word; but his wife and servants beat, and abused her cruelly: Here is your fruits again. William Stockdale, and John Boweran, being moved of the Lord to declare the truth in the Marketplace of Strahavan on a Market-day, were cruelly abused, and many times knocked down with staves, and stones, and violently drawn out of the town by the wicked people. William Stockdale, and John Gill, with many others, having a Meeting in the Grave-Yard in Strahavan, on a Market-day, a company of the Priests Hearers came, and fell upon them with staves, and stones, and broke up the Meeting, and stoned them above a quarter of a mile out of the Town insomuch, that some blood was spilt, and many was sore bruised. Richard Ismead, for bidding James Nesmith, Priest of Hambleton, prove himself a Minister of Christ, was apprehended by the Bailiff, and was imprisoned in the Tole-booth of Hambleton, and after was scarryed to a Justice's Court at Glasgow, who commanded him to be set in the Stocks, and a Gag put in his mouth, and a Paper pinned on his Breast; and made an Order for him to departed the Nation. William Stockdale being moved of the Lord to go to the Steeplehouse of Damanoy; and as he stood in the Yard declaring the Truth, and against their Idolatrous Worship, the Priest came, who did encourage the people to beat him; whereupon some of his Elders, and other wicked people, violently knocked him down, and set their feet upon him, and plucked much hair off his head, insomuch that some people cried he is killed: and if the power of the Lord had not born him up, which bears up the heads of his Lambs, whom he sends forth in the midst of Wolves, when they are persecuted: he had died amongst them, for he was not able to speak, neither to rise, a certain time after, off the ground. William Jack, Priest of Carlook, said to the people of Lismahagow in his preaching, as followeth: Beloved, If you will contribute, and some of you give a six pence, and others a shilling, that the Steepping may be greater; then God and we will meet, and find you out some honest man. (Mark) the Priest will not meet with their God, till they know of a great Steepping. George Wear, and some others, having their Bonnets taken from them when they were at a meeting, near unto the Steeplehouse of Lesmahagow, and he laying it before William Lowery called Justice, who said, How durst you come there to keep your meeting; if ever your come there again, I will have you scourged, or I will scourge you myself. James Nesmith Priest of Hambleton, caused William Stockdale to be put into prison for speaking to him in the Steeplehouse-yard, where he remained four days in a place where he could scarce get room to lie. Richard Pinder, for speaking in the Steeplehouse yard of Kilbryde between the Priests preaching, was carried by the Constable before James Steward of Castle-Town called Justice, who caused him to be put in the Tolebooth of Rugland, where he remained about four days, and after that he, to wit, James Stewart and Will. Simmons, both Justices, caused him to be set in the stocks at Kilbryde on a first day; and ordered him to be carried from Constable to Constable till he come to his outward abode in England, and he being brought to a Constable called John Barrie, and he being willing of himself to go, Jo. Barry gave him the Order, and he went into England, yet nevertheless the Justices, to wit James Stewart, and the rest fined John Barry 10 shillings sterl. for doing so, and he not willing to pay it, they put him into prison, where he lay four hours, and a mad man was put in with him, that had a naked knife in his hand, whereby he was in danger of his life, if the Lords providence had not been great in preserving of him; and the Justices when he was brought before them again said, They would forgive him his Fine, if he would not be a Quaker, who answered, I cannot tell what I will be. William Mitchel for taking of a Wife contrary to the Order and Law of the Presbyterian Church of Scotland, whereupon the Priest of that Parish of Douglass, called Peter Kidd complained to the Justices, and caused to summon him to the Quarter-Sessions at Hambleton, where James Hambleton of Woodhal was present, and Will. Mitchel desired to be judged according to the Law of God, and the right Laws of the Nation; for we have given in a Declaration of the said Marriage to some of you; Woodhal said, We will neither judge you according to the Law, nor the Scriptures, we have nothing to do with them at this time; we will judge you according to the Law of the Church of Scotland; by which Law and Judgement he lay in the stocks at the cross of Hambleton five hours, and after that was put into prison, where he remained twenty nine days, and they ordered him to pay twenty shillings sterl. or else to receive twenty lashes on his naked shoulders at the Marketplace upon the Market-day in Hambleton, and he being not convinced of the breach of any just Law, he would not pay the Fine, neither could they get any to give him the punishment which they laid upon him. Then Gawine Hambleton of Raploeh, which is Sheriff of the Shire, and is also Justice of Peace, and james Hambleton another of the Justices gave an Order to a Captain that was going to France with some men, to take him out of prison to carry him to France; whereupon they took him out, and carried him to Edinburgh, where he should have been kept in prison till they had made ready their Ship: But in the mean while the thing being laid before George Monk, he caused to examine it, and the thing being contrary to the just laws of the Nation, he was set at liberty. The gross Scottish Doctrines of the Scottish Priests Reproved, That all may see, whether those be worthy to suffer, which reprove such Doctrines. 1. JOhn Sempel, Priest in Carrick, his preaching to the people was this: People (saith he) what would ye hear? I know ye would hear News: What shall I fell you, but old Oliver Cromwell, who is called Protector, is dead; he could not beguile death, as Pocky as he was? But there is gotten up one in his place whom they call Lord Richard, but beware that Cat Lambert kill not Lord Richard. 3. John Burnet, Priest of Kilbrid, said, They had cause to curse the Magistrates every morning, and every evening, for giving these Quakers toleration; and he said, if there were a Gallows set up in Kilbryde parish, to hang all that turn from them, so many would not turn to be Quakers. 3. Henry Foreside, Priest of Lemgey in Dumbarton-shire, Prayed, that the Lord might never give them rest, who is the upholders of this liberty, and toleration; and said, Lord, take away this liberty and toleration, etc. Witnesses of this, that heard him say it, Andrew Grace, Agnus Grace, Helen Grace. 4. Robert Semple, Priest of Slamanan, in his preaching said, That Christ's Sheep had neither mark, nor burn, etc. And that God would say to the wicked, what have I to you with you sir, etc. But I trow, The Priest means the Old Masse-house, and he that puts into his Mouth. he will say another tale to the godly; You have keeped my Kirk well, and trowed my Ministers, go ye up to Heaven yonder sir, etc. 5. Lodowick Semerwell, Priest of New- Monkland, said, That the Grace of God belonged not to his Doctrine: And this same Priest caused a man to make his Repentance in his Congregation, for selling to Margaret Hambleton two pecks of Lintseed; yet the Priest himself borrowed a book of her, and did not his Repentance, and so manifested that his Doctrine had no grace of God in it. Answ. Now serious people may take notice how ignorantly, and without cause the servants of the Lord suffer under such, for the Word of God's sake, which is as a fire in their bones, against all such Doctrines which hath nothing of the grace of God in them, nor which the grace of God belongs not unto, as they themselves confess; and people may consider likewise, what a clamour and cry hath been among the Priests of England and Scotland by Petitions, and Addresses to every power that appeared in the Nation, to establish them in such Doctrines, as nothing of the grace of God belonged unto; but is murderers, and destroyers of the Creatures, and would limit the Spirit of God, and Word of God, from declaring against their deceit; and doth give themselves to Cursing of them morning and evening, that will not uphold them, and make Laws for them, to destroy the Seed of God: This is not like the Apostle of Christ, which said, Curse not, but bless; and their weapons were not carnal, but spiritual: The Apostles had not a gallows set up for those that turned from them, but the time is come that your folly is made manifest unto all men, so that you cannot deceive the Nations any more, as ye have done. Again, the Priests of the Presbytery belonging to Glascow, made a fast, and excommunicated these persons, viz. William Grace, and James Findly, and charged people not to let them come into their houses, commanding them to have no commerce with them in buying nor selling, nor borrowing nor lending; and James Findly being a Smith, they charged people that they should not work with him, for if they did they should be excommuicated also; and Henry Foreside Priest of that parish, again told them, that it was acted in the presbytery, that if any work any longer (work that pertains to the Smith's trade) with James Findly, they should be excommnicants, and should not parake with any of his Church-Ordinances, as marriage, sprinkling the children, and communion of bread and wine: which act several of the people murmurs under, but say they must obey it contrary to their minds, because they cannot bear the Priest's wrath. Again, John Burnett Priest of Kilbrid, charged his hearers to have no deal in civil affairs, with these people called Quakers, that were excommunicated; and he summoned such to his Sessions, which had eaten or drunken, bought or sold with them, requiring them to make public confession before the people, that they had given offence in so doing, etc. Again, Robert Paul, one of the Priest's elders, said he would convert James Findly and his doctrine: to convert him by, was this, That the Scripture was the word; And secondly, That the Scriptures was God: Thirdly, That the Scriptures is the way to the Kingdom of Heaven, and no other under Heaven: Fourthly, That the scriptures is the Holy Ghost that the Father promised that he would send, that should reprove the world of sin, etc. Ans. If he had said that the Scripture is that which testify of these things, that doctrine had been more like to have converted; for the scripture saith, That the word was in the beginning before scripture was; and it saith that Christ is the way, and there is no other Name under Heaven by which men shall be saved but by Christ; it doth not say that by no other name but the scripture, so that all such doctrine will pervert people from God, and not convert them to God. And the same Robert Paul said he would respect men's persons, and that he would never be free from fin, neither was it possible. Answ. How can thou do any other but respect persons, and commit sin while thou denies God to be God, and Christ to be the way, and would make the scriptures both to be God, and the way to God, and would make them the spirit, the gift of the Father; but herein thou art blind, and leads none but the blind, and doth pervert, and not convert; for thou art ignorant of that which convinceth the world of sin yet, which is the Spirit of truth, which the scripture testifies of; but that thou must first come to know to convince thee of, and to condemn thy darkness, before thou do either convince, or convert any unto God. James Gartsore Priest said, they loved God which keeped not his commandments. Answ. Which is contrary to the Apostles doctrine which saith, If any man saith that he loves God, and keeps not his Commandments, he is a liar, and the truth is not in him; and hereby do we know we love God, because we keep his commandments, 1 John 2.3, 4. and his Commandments are not grievous, but joyous. And Christ saith, Why call ye me Lord, and doth not the thing that I command you; so that none loves God, but he who keeps his Commandments, and abideth in him; and he that abideth in him sinneth not, 1 John 3.6. Peter Kid, Priest of Douglasse, said, Put a man in never such a close place, his soul will run like a post horse. Answ. Thou showest that thou art ignorant of the soul, and never knew what it was, nor knows how to Minister to it, nor how to watch over it; But if thou had seen thine own condition, thou might have said that thy vain thoughts and wand'ring imaginations runs to and fro in the earth, and thy mind is not stayed upon God, and art not come to know the first principal of the the time Religion, that which should stay thy mind upon God; so thou art to wait to be taught, and not to teach. William Simerwell, Priest of Petinance, said, that Christ died for the Elect, and godly people of the world, and not for the Turks and Pagans, and Barbarians, etc. Answ. Christ died for sinners, according to the Scriptures, Rom. 5.8. And he came to call sinners to repentance, not the righteous or godly, Mat. 9.13. And Christ died for all, 2 Cor. 5.14, 15. And is the propitiation for our sins, saith the Apostle, that was the believers, and not for ours only, but for the sins of the whole World; and the Gospel is to be preached to every Creature, and remission of sins in his Name, to Turks, Pagans, and Barbarians. So herein thou hast showed that thou was never made a Minister of the Gospel unto any, neither knoweth what the Gospel is to be Ministered unto; so therefore be silent, and learn no more to blaspheme God, and his truth, as thou hast done. Again, Priest Simerwell, saith, Christ calls all men every where to repent, but he will not that all should Repent. Answ. Here thou would make Christ a deceiver, and so hath manifested thyself to be Antichrist; what, doth Christ call men to do that which he would not have them to do? What, is there any guile to be found in his mouth? would thou go about to turn the truth of the Scriptures into a lie? which saith, That God wills that all men should come to the knowledge of the truth, that they might be saved: and thou here hath charged Christ foolishly and falsely, in saying that he calls them to do that which he would not have them to do, when he calls all men every where to Repent. The Priest of the Presbytery belonging to Glascow summoned James Findly, and William Grace, to be examined by him for Heresy as they say, and when they appeared, they shut the door, and would let none hear their examination; manifesting themselves to be in darkness, and afraid to bring their deeds to the Light, left their deceits should have been laid open, and reproved; but they would not answer, until the doors were set open, and all people to here, that would come in: Truth is bold, and seeks no Corners. They Priests affirmed, that the Light which every one is enlightened withal, is natural, etc. Answ. Here they manifest their ignorance of the life of Christ, which is spiritual, whose life is the light of men, and this is the true light that lighteth every man that comes into the world; and this light is pure, that Christ doth enlighten every one withal; and whosoever doth truth, love the Light, and brings his deeds to the light to be proved, and by the Light is lead to life; but every one that doth evil hateth the light, and will not bring his deeds to the light lest they should be reproved, and so the light is his condemnation, John 3.18, 19, 20, 21. They affirmed, That Christ died not for all, contrary to the Scripture, 2 Cor. 5.15. as abovesaid. They say that the Scripture is the Word of God, which is but a Declaration of the Word, Luke 1.1. And Christ his Name is called the Word of God, Rev. 19.13. The Scriptures are words of God, and Christ is the Word that fulfils, and ends the words. They affirmed, That men and women, and Children, should be condemned for Adam's Transgression, etc. contrary to the Scripture, which saith, The Children shall not bear the iniquity of their Fathers, nor the Fathers the children's; but every one shall give an account of himself, and every one shall bear his own burden. They affirmed, That none could be perfect on this side the Grave; and that a Ohilde of God cannot be perfect, as to have no sin at all. Answ. Contrary to the Scripture, Mat. 5.48. Where Christ saith, Be ye perfect, as your Heavenly Father is perfect: And Christ doth 〈…〉, nor command impossible things; and the Apostle saith, We speak wisdom amongst them that are perfect, 1 Cor. 2. And let as many as are perfect be thus minded: and the Child of God is perfect, and without sin: for whosoever is borne of God, doth not commit sin, and his seed remains in him, and he cannot sinne, because be is born of God, 1 John 3.8, 9 It is as impossible for him that is born of God to commit sin, as it is impossible for him, who is born of the Devil to cease from sin. They affirmed, That none was Ministers of Christ, but such as wait for an ordinary and mediate call from Men. Answ. Contrary to the Scripture, which saith, The things of God knows no man, but the Spirit of God. And contrary to Paul's Call, who saith, Not of man, nor by man, but by the Revelation of Jesus Christ: for he neither received of man, neither was he taught it; but it was given to him of God: and this was the Gospel he preached (Christ within, the hope of Glory) and if any bring another, let them be accursed, 1 Cor. 2. Gal. 1.1.12. Colos. 1. They affirmed, That an oath was lawful to be taken, of men and women. Answ. Contrary to Christ's Command, Mat. 5. who saith, Swear not at all, etc. and contrary to the Apostles Doctrine, James 5.12. who saith, Above all things my Brethren, swear not, neither by Heaven, nor by Earth, nor by any other Oath, but let your yea be yea, and your nay, nay, lest ye fall into Condemnation. They affirmed, That Bread and Wine is the Communion with Christ. Answ. John, and the Saints had Communion with God, and his Son Jesus Christ, and their Fellowship was in the Light; For, saith he, if we walk in the Light, as he is in the light, then have we fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ cleanseth us from all sin, 1 John 1.5, 7. And they who are in the Light have fellowship with Christ, and receives every thing in the purity from the Lord; but they that hate the Light, they remain in darkness, and every thing to them is accursed; to the unbelieving, and disobedient their is nothing pure, but even their mind and conscience is defiled. They affirmed that sprinkling Infants is an Ordinance of Christ, when as Christ never ordained such a thing, and their is no Scripture for it, let the Priests of Scotland, or any of their brethren in England prove it if they can. They affirmed, it was lawful for them be called of men, Master. Answ. Contrary to Christ, his express words in Mat. 23.8.10. be not ye called of men, Master, etc. They affirmed, Tithes to be lawful for Ministers now, showing themselves to be Antichristian, dark, and blind, denying Christ Jesus to be come in the flesh, and saying that is lawful which Christ hath disannulled, and made void, and there is no Law in the new testament, that doth allow of Tithes to be paid to a Gospel Ministry, therefore not lawful. These are some of the false Doctrines and Principles of the Presbyterians about Glasgow, Whereby it was plainly manifest that they are guilty of heresy, and are heriticks, which they would charge upon others; But true Light now shineth, which maketh deceit, and deceivers manifest. Henry Foreside, said in the hearing of several people, that Christ was not in the Apostle Paul, etc. Contrary to Paul's words in Gal. 1. After it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his Grace to reveal his Son in me, etc. and in 2 Cor. 13. Ye seek a proof of Christ speaking in me, and Christ in you the hope of Glory, Col. 1. and Jesus Christ is in you except ye be reprobates. Peter Kid Priest of Douglasse, said, to preach that people should walk according to the Light and law within them, is the Doctrine of Devils. Answ. Paul and other of the Apostles, and Saints, and true Christians, who believed in Christ had the Light shining in them, and the Law in them, and the Spirit in them, and God and Christ dwelled in them, for their bodies were made Temples of the Holy Ghost, as the Scriptures declare; and the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus, had made the Apostle free from the law of sin, and death; and saith John, these things I writ unto you, that your fellowship may be with us, and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ. This was the Doctrine of Christ to bring people to Light, Law, life and spirit within, to worship God in spirit; and in truth, and all who draw out, and lead people from this, are deceivers, and their Doctrine is devilish. William Somerwell Priest, said, It was ill manners to to say thee and thou to a man, etc. Contrary to the Scripture, which all along doth give thee and thou to a particular, not only unto man, though never so great in the world, but also to God himself, and unto Christ. William Morton, Priest of Wonstone, summoned James Simmonton to his Sessions, and being required to prove his Ministry, he said; he scorned to prove himself a Minister of Christ, Contrary to the Scripture, which saith, be ready to give account of the hope that is in you, with meekness, and fear, to every one that shall ask you. And when he was told of taking hire for his preaching, contrary to Christ his Commission, (who saith, Freely ye have received, freely give,) then the Priest arose in arage, and called him base-born beggarly rascal; contrary to the Apostles Doctrine, who saith, Let no corrupt communication come out of your mouth. William Stockdale being in the Steeplehouse of Lesmahagow, where John Lum, Priest thereof was preaching; and he being writing some of his lies, the Priest cried out, and said, There was never any since the world began was free from sin, nor never shall be: writ that said he. Answ. Which is quite contrary to plain Scripture, Rom. 6.18, 20, 22. Being made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness; for when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness, but now being made free from sin, and become servants of God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end, everlasting life; for the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life, through Jesus Christ our Lord: And Paul said, Rom. 8.2. The Law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus, hath made me free from the law of sin and death. A Relation of some of the Sufferings of Friends to the Truth in Scotland. JOhn Roberton, called Lord of Ornock, publicly refused to enter Andrew Hambleton, in Shawton-hill, in his possession under him, because he was excommunicated by the Priests; Witnesses of this, Elexander Hambleton, and John Strudders. William Grace, James Findly, John Grace, Robert Smally, John Robine, was summoned to be upon a Jewry at Dunbarton, and when they came there, and went within the Bar, they pulled off their Bonnets, and bade them swear; unto whom they answered they would not swear, But they will tell the Truth, and take God to be their Witness upon it; but this they would not receive, for John Callhonne, called the Sheriff's deputy, bade them swear by God, and hold up their hands, or go into prison: and it was answered, we dare not transgress the Doctrine of Christ, who said, swear not at all; he said, it was but the Law of Christ that bad men not swear, but the Law of God bad men swear; and so would have set the old law over Christ, who is the end of it, who forbids swearing: And because they durst not transgress the Doctrines of Christ, in which the Apostle lived, who said, Above all things my Brothers swear not at all; they put them all five into Prison. The Heads of that which passed in Discourse betwixt the People called Quakers, and the two Priests of Hambleton, in the Priest's house: The Names of the Priests are, Jam. Nesmith, and John English; in which Discourse they have manifested themselves, and all the rest of their Generation to be none of the Ministers of Christ, but the Ministers of Anti-christ, who preaches another Gospel than the Apostles did; as in the Discourse following you may plainly see. And also some Reasons why we deny them. First. JAmes Nesmith, said, There is no salvation in an ordinary way for sinners, without external Revelation from the Scriptures. Answ. Here all may see, they hold out another way to salvation, than the Prophets and the Apostles did; for they said, Christ was given for salvation to the ends of the earth, Isay 49.6. and there was not salvation in any other, nor no other Name given by which any can be saved but by the Name of Jesus, Acts. 4.12. But that salvation they tell of, which is by external revelation from the Scriptures, was never held forth by the Prophets, nor the Apostles, nor declared of in all the Scriptures of Truth; therefore all may see they are such as preach another Gospel than the Apostles did, and so are to be holden accursed, and turned away from, Gal. 1.8. Jam. Nesmith said, That Christ doth not excommunicate the knowledge of himself, but by the Scriptures, and that the Scripture is the means by which the knowledge of God is imparted. Answ. This is a lie, and Scripture contradiction, For Christ, who doth communicate the knowledge of himself, by his own Spirit saith, none knows the Son but the Father, neither doth any man know the Father, but the Son, and he to whom the Son will reveal him, Mat. 11.27. So it is not by the Scriptures that the true knowledge of God is imparted to any man, but by Christ, 2 Cor. 4.6. The second Priest, John English. First, Said, the Veil that was over people in the time of the Law, was the Old Testament, and it was taken away by the New Testament. Answ. Sin was, and is the vail, by which the mystery was vailed all the time of the Law until now: for when Moses is read, the same vail remains over their hearts; for their minds was, and is blinded by the God of this World, lest the light of the glorious Gospel of Christ, which is the Image of God, should shine unto them, 2 Cor. 4.4. nevertheless, when their hearts shall be turned to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away, 2 Cor. 3.16. which vail is done away in Christ, 2 Cor. 3.14. and not by the Scripture which they call the New Testament: and here John English is proved to be a liar, and of his father the Devil, who is a liar from the beginning. 2. John English said, That the Gospel that was preached to Abraham, was the same for matter, but not for substance; neither was it a clear Gospel. Answ. The Gospel that was preached to Abraham, was the same for matter and substance which Paul preached; for matter and substance is one, and it was a clear Gospel; for Christ the substance was preached to Abraham: and Abraham saw his day, and rejoiced, John 8.56. Therefore give over deceiving the people with lies, and repent. 3. John English said, The Scripture is the glass by which we see the Face of God. Answ. This is a lie, and Scripture contradiction; for the Apostle saith, God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ, 2 Cor. 4.6. Mark the Priest's ignorance or the Scriptures; and here all may see that he is one of them that keeps people in darkness, from seeing the face of God; and errs, not knowing the Scriptures, nor the power of God. 4. John English said, The foundation of the Prophets and Apostles, was meant the Scriptures of the Old and New Testament. Answ. The Prophets and Apostles meant what they speak, and the same foundation which they declared of, and builded upon, did 〈◊〉, Enoch, Noah, and others who died in the Faith before the Old and New Testament was written, build upon; which foundation was Christ, the Rock of Ages, the foundation of the chief Corner Stone, 2 Tim. 2.19. 1 Cor. 2.11. But thou art one of them that draws people from the foundation of the Prophets, and the Apostles, to build upon thy lies, and consequences; which building and foundation the Lord will bring to naught; for he is risen to sweep away the refuge of lies, which thou and thy generation hath been covered with, and will make you naked, and bare; for your covering is too short, that your shame cannot be hid any longer. 5. John English said, That they had their commission from Paul to give Bread and Wine. Answ. Here hast thou made it plainly manifest, that thou and thy generation are none of the Ministers of Christ, who say you have your Commission from Paul, for giving people Bread and Wine: Paul never gave such a Commission to any, neither doth he say he had power to give any Commission, but declares himself a servant; neither did Paul own any of thy generation of hirelings, which drew people from the true foundation, but declares against them, and bids people turn from them. Therefore give over deceiving the people, and repent, and call not Bread and Wine any more an Ordinance of God, which thou sayest you are commanded by man to practise, lest thy and their portion be in the Lake, where there is Weeping, and Wailing, and gnashing of Teeth, which you cannot escape, unless ye Repent; for ye are such as make the Word of God of none effect, by your Tradition, and so are to be turned from. Reasons why we deny them, and the Priests of their Generation. FIRST, They are such teachers as walk in the steps of the Pharisees which Christ cried woe against, Mat. 23.6. They stand praying in the Synagogues, and are called of men master, contrary to Christ's command, who said, to his Ministers, be not ye called of any man, master, and because they are such as break Christ's command, therefore we deny them. Secondly, They are such as preach another Gospel than the Apostles did, and saith, Salvation is by the Scripture, which is contrary to that which is held forth by the Prophet, Isa. 49.6. Who said Christ was given for Salvation to the end of the earth; and the Apostle said, their is not salvation in any other, Acts 4.12. And because they preach another Gospel; therefore we deny them. Thirdly, They are such teachers as say the Scriptures of the Old and New Testament, is the foundation for Believers to build upon, which is contrary to the Apostles Doctrine, who saith, Christ is the Foundation, and chief Corner Stone, Psal. 118.22. Act. 4.11. Rom. 9.33. 1 Pet. 2.7. Mat. 21.42. And because they hold out another foundation, than the Holy Men of God did; therefore we deny them. Fourthly, They are such as take hire for their preaching, contrary to Christ's command, who said to his Ministry, Freely ye have received, freely give, and because they neither receive freely, nor give freely, therefore we deny them. Fifthly, They are such teachers, who deny that the Grace of God which brings salvation hath appeared unto all men, and so would make the Apostle a liar, and a false Minister, who saith, in the 2 Tim. 11. The Grace of God that brings Salvation hath appeared to all men; and because they deny the Apostles Doctrine; therefore we deny them. Sixthly, They are such teachers as deny the Doctrine of perfection, which is the Doctrine of Christ, who said, be ye perfect, as your Heavenly Father is perfect; and Holy, for I am Holy; which Doctrine the Apostles walked in, and spoke amongst those that were perfect, 1 Cor. 2.6. And laboured to present every man in Christ Jesus: and because they are not found in this labour that the Apostles was in, to present men perfect in Christ Jesus, but cries against it, and preaches up sin for term of life, which is the Doctrine of Devils; therefore we deny them. Seventh, They are such Teachers as go into cain's way, and running greedily after rewards and covetousness, Judas 11. contrary to the Apostles, who said, he covered not man's gold, silver, nor apparel, Acts 20.23. therefore we deny them. Eighth, They are such as are made Ministers by the will of man, and persecute, and rail against such as fear God, and are of a honest conversation; therefore we deny them. Nineth, They are such Teachers as add to, and diminish from the Scriptures, unto whom the plagues of God are due; therefore we deny them. Tenth, They are such as Ezekiel cries against in Ezek. 34. That feed with the fat, and cloth with the wool, and make a prey upon the people; therefore we deny them. Eleventh, They are such teachers, as uphold a false worship in the I dolls Temples made with hands, which Christ sent his Ministers to cry against; and do deny the true worship, which is in Spirit and in truth; therefore we deny them. Twelfth, They are such Teachers as keeps Drunkards, Swearers, liars, proud, covetous, and all manner of vile persons in their Assemblies, and cast out them that fear God, and are of honest conversation; therefore we deny them. Written by one that Worship God in Spirit, and in Truth, and do deny all False Worship, which men sets up; and is also a witness for God against all deceit, and deceivers, known by the Name of Will. Stockdale. The 26 of the last Month called Feb. 1657. THE END.