Something in ANSWER To Two late MALICIOUS LIBELS of William Rogers; Entitled, The Sixth and Eighth part of his (falsely so called) Christian-Quaker, etc.  
Being a further Caution to FRIENDS, To take heed of that Treacherous Spirit that is entered into WILLIAM ROGERS and his Abettors.  
Who under the Profession of Primitive Truth, are betraying it to the World, and putting truths Lambs into their Bearskins for the World to Worry, because they have no power to do it themselves, who have published their wicked Books in Askalon the fire of their Infamy; and have told it in Gath, the Wine Press, to press out their sour Grapes to set the People's teeth on Edge against the Lambs of God.  
Published for the Clearing of Truth against William Rogers' Lies and Slanders, and for the Information of the simple-minded, that they may not be ensnared by the Crafts and Wiles of Satan through such fallen Antichristian Instruments as William Rogers and such as are Entered into the same Malicious Spirit with him.  
C. T.  
2 Tim. 3. v. 8. Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the Truth, Men of Corrupt minds, Reprobate concerning the Faith.—  
V 9 But they shall proceed no further; their folly shall be manifest to all Men, as theirs also was.  
V 13. But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived.  
London, Printed for John Bringhurst, Printer and Stationer, at the Sign of the Book in Grace-Church-Street. 1682.   

AN ANSWER TO William Rogers.  
William Rogers,  
I Have read something in thy two Books, called the sixth and eighth part of thy Book, called, The Christian Quaker, reflecting upon me at a gross abusive rate, because I withstood thee in Print, in thy Printing that malicious Book called by thee, The Christian Quaker, etc. And good ground I had to withstand thee as I did: For reading in thy Book, I understood thy drift & intent to be, to render dear G.F. by Name, & several others dragged by their Names in thy Book, with myself included, and indeed all Friends who are in Unity with us, who are the Church of Christ, to be Apostates and Innovators, and thyself with thy Adherents, to be the Christian-Quakers, in thy false sense, as plainly appears in thy Book, which I suppose thou wilt not deny.  
So this being the true state of the case, we must either submit to thee, or thou, and those of thy Spirit, to us. But that we are Apostates or Innovators, (that is, Revolters, Backsliders from the Truth, deserters of our Guide and Captain Christ jesus: And Innovators, or such as bring in new things into the Church, and alter or contradict the true Government and State of it) we utterly deny, and reject thy false Charge, and all that are concerned with thee.— And my Charge from God upon thee is true: Thou art of a Rebellious Mind, and standest up, as Korah and his Company did, against God's faithful and true Servants, who have and do keep their Habitations in the Truth to this day: And thou art of a slanderous Tongue, and void of a good Understanding. How long wilt thou pervert the Truth in thy gainsayings, and stand in opposition to the Lords power, and reject Gods pure Counsel to thee through his Servants, and their tender desires for thee, which sometimes have reached thy Conscience! But take heed lest thy Rum come, and there be none to help thee: And when thy work is over, without Repentance, with Judas, thou go to thy proper place.  
What ado thou makest because I have quoted no particular sentence out of thy Book, but in the general as in my Title Page, and other places, I have given the Reader to understand, that the matter of my Charge, against thee is in thy Book, called, The Christian-Quaker, etc. These are my words in the Title Page: To Friends, To take heed of that Treacherous Spirit that is entered into William Rogers, and his Abettors; as appears in his Book falsely called, The Christian Quaker. And if the ground of my Charge against thee be not the ground of thy Book, and in thy Book over and over; then I have erred and am not to be believed. But thou canst not justly deny, nor any of thy Abettors, but that thou hast rendered us aforementioned, to be both Apostates and Innovators; and if thou dost deny it, thou dost overthrow the foundation of thy Book: And none need to pin their Faith on my Sleeve to believe this; but in the Light of Christ to Read, See, and Believe for themselves in this matter. And to thy wicked Book I refer the Reader, whether this be not the main Subject of it; and so is notorious false and blasphemous. Read Rev. 2.9. I know the Blasphemy of them which say they are jews and are not; but are of the Synagogue of Satan. This is become thy condition, who callest thyself a Christian Quaker; but indeed art of the Synagogue of Satan, that Adversary.  
And what if I have neither particularly quoted Part nor Page of thy Book; yet what I affirm is true: Unto which, for proof of what I say, I refer the Reader to thy Book, and justify my Charge against thee; and Charge thee with Rebellion, and gainsaying the Truth, and Power of God in his faithful Servants: For we Charge thee in the Presence of God, and before his Angels and Men, to be a false Accuser of the Brethren, and to be guided by a malicious evil Spirit.  
And now as for my not quoting Part and Page out of thy Book; I did not go about particularly to Answer thy Book, but to bear my Testimony against thee, not to be of God in that Spirit thou writ it. And in Rev. 2.15. is spoken by John of the Doctrine of the Nicolaitans which he hated, and quotes not what that Doctrine was, nor Chapter nor Verse; and yet is not reflected on, as not to be believed in one word he speaks, etc.  
And whereas thou quotest something out of the third Page in my Book, and quarrel'st with the two last words [for ever] because I say, To the Praise of his Name for ever; having before spoken of the Lords eminent Instruments in his Hand, as dear G. F. and others opposed by W. R. as Apostates and Innovators. Thou sayest, by the words for ever, If I mean G. F. (that is to the Praise of G. F.'s Name for ever) Then thou sayest I should have added so and so, etc. And so bringest in several ass and runnest with thy Horns especially against G. F. But this is quibbling, and scurrilous, and catching, according to the Nature of the Spirit thou art led by: For who will take it so? But to put all out of doubt for the sake of the simple, it is to be read, according to my Mind and Meaning, To the Praise of the Lords Name for ever.  
Now William, These foolish things from a perverse and malicious Airy Mind, thou hast been Publishing and telling as in Gath and Askalon, that the uncircumcised Priests and Professors, and Rabble of unrighteous people may rejoice. Is not this thy work?  
And really so, how canst thou have a face to deny it? Dost not thou seek to destroy our Lives and Reputations in the Truth; by rendering us Apostates and Innovators? And what a Hurry and Pother didst thou and thine Adherents make, concerning John Story, how we went about to unminister him, because we desired him to return into the North, and first to be Reconciled to his Brethren, before he came and offered his Gift; otherwise he would go out in a contentious Spirit, to the sowing of Strife and Sedition amongst the Churches. Now consider thy own work, who hast espoused his Cause, what havoc thou makest to lay waste the Heritage of God? not only according to thy Ability to go about to unminister Gods faithful Labourers, in the Work of his Gospel; but also to unchristian them, by rendering them Apostates and Innovators. Oh! wicked Spirit and unbridled Tongue!  
And what parallel is this? Thy Publishing of thy wicked Book against God's People, as a common Adversary to God's Truth and his People, endeavouring to be believed in thy wicked work; and also as it were to curse God's Heritage from being his People and faithful Servants; if thou hadst power according to thy will, as is too evident, by the prosecution of thy wicked Work; and so art in Balaam's way? I say, what parallel is this, if all had been true what thou hast written, (writing it in a malicious Spirit) to Paul's withstanding Peter to his Face before all men; which is false: It is not [before all men] but [before them all] as is to be further shown hereafter. Did Paul publish this to the World and all men to render him an Apostate and Innovator, and all of his Spirit, who had Unity with him, as thou hast done us? Nay it is manifest, that Peter received and owned the plaindealing and love of his Brother Paul, and felt it to come from the Spirit of Love and true-heartedness to him: And it was so far from making a breach between them, that it more nearly united them.  
And afterwards Peter very affectionately speaks of his beloved Brother Paul, and of his Epistles, in which (says he) are some things hard lo be understood; which they that are unlearned and unstable, wrist (as they do also the other Scriptures) unto their own destruction, 2 Pet. 3.15, 16. As thou hast endeavoured to pervert the plain dealing of Paul with Peter to serve thy own turn, and thy false end in Printing us to the World as Apostates and Innovators, etc. And what if this be now made public? it is a work quite contrary to thine, and from another Spirit, and to another end. O William! If thou couldst but see thy work and repent of it, how glad should I be! I have pitied thee, and wished thee better employment.  
And whereas thou reflects upon me in the sixth part, p. 21. saying: That I act like such as have had their Education at Bilingsgate, amongst the Scolds, rather than under the Roof of sober Families.  
Blessed be God I act against thee, as the Lord does give me a good understanding; and see thee to be of a wicked Spirit, in Korah's way and State of Rebellion, and of Cain's murderous Line (I mean spiritually) and how impudent art thou, to compare my Education with the Education of the Scolds at Bilingsgate? I have had for this thirty years, or thereabouts, my Education in the blessed Truth, and always was, in thy best condition, thy Elder in it; and have never yet deserved thy base language concerning my Education: And before I was convinced of the Truth, I was of better behaviour than thou now art; for I then loved good and honest people, who feared the Lord, and wrought Righteousness in their day and Generation; and sought and enquired after the knowledge of the Lord from my young and tender years; but thou art in a Rebellious State against God's faithful Servants. Alas William! is this thy work, to abuse Me and many grave Ancients in Israel, who have kept their Habitations in the Truth?— Herein I may a little boast to stop thy mouth: Bring forth the Person who, this thirty years' last passed, can tax my Life and Conversation, or Education; that I have not had my Education so in the Truth, that I have been in my Life what I have Doctrinally Preached forth: I speak this to the Praise of God's Grace, and testify in the fear of God against thy slanderous tongue. But it is like thee, who art guided by an unruly and rebellious Spirit, who hast corrupted thy manners by thy evil words; who art turned against the Truth, and thy Tongue is at liberty to abuse those that have kept their Habitations in it. Thou art a quarrelsome man, and thy impudence is so great, that thou endeavourest to supplant the Righteous seed, and abuse Gods faithful Labourers in his Vineyard, by rendering them as Apostates and Innovators, and so art mischievous in thy undertake; and we know thou art a false Accuser, and thou endeavourest to stop the course of our Testimonies, that we may not be believed as Christian Ministers, by thy false insinuations, who would prejudice both Friends and others against us, to stop their Ears from hearing the Truth; declared by us. O wicked envious Spirit, do thy worst: What canst thou do with all thy power? God's pure simplicity being kept unto amongst his people, they easily discern thee to be an Apostate and fallen Spirit, if ever thou hadst a condition in the Truth. And if ever thou hadst, then wast thou but a Novice in it, and yet hast taken upon thee a mischievous work, to run out with thy Horns against such as G. F. G. W. and myself, and many others, rendering us Apostates and Innovators. But we truly comprehend thee to be got up into presumption, lifted up with pride, and art fallen into the condemnation of the Devil.  
And therefore it is that thou art become malicious, and hast not kept thy first State in the Truth, but hast left that habitation according to thy measure which thou hadst in it: And now thou appearest in thy wickedness against the Living God, and in this State, except thou canst find a place of Repentance, thou art reserved in the everlasting Chains of Darkness unto the Judgement of the Great day.  
And whereas thou reflects and despises that good Government of Christ, that the God of Heaven hath erected and established amongst us by his Spirit and Power, the ground and foundation of which, in my Epistle of Caution, I have in measure laid down, I believe to the satisfaction of all innocent Friends that fear God: Yet thy foul Spirit is so offended at this work, that thou art evil affected towards it, under the colour of Impositions and Innovations, and forcing a Conformity upon Conscience vefore Conviction and without Faith.  
Unto which I answer, Without Faith it is impossible to please God: And therefore we persuade men, by the force of Truth and the Word of the Lord, to be reconciled to every thing that is good, as to good Order and Government, and not to stand in opposition against it.  
And a great clamour thou makest about Government and Orders, and fillest people full of stories of this kind, and rendrest us little better in these matters than Papists and Popishly affected: And yet notwithstanding dost not set down what all these Orders are: Thou malicious man, begin from first to last, and tell such to whom thou Writes and Prints, what all these Orders are, thou so openst thy Mouth against: If they be good in themselves, as some of thy Friends have said and confessed, therefore why not practicable, and why should they be opposed? But ye are in confusion.  
Should we not endeavour that every simple-hearted person may be informed and truly Instructed in that which is Pure, Decent, Good, and Commendable, that all things may be done in good Order, by the spirit of God, to the praise of the Name of the Great God, who is the God of Order and not of Confusion or Anarchy.  
They that plead for Liberty Contrary to the pure Spirit, Life and Power of Jesus Christ, are out of the Faith, and not faithful to God. And in that state they are blind and Ignorant of God's way, and Truth in this his Gospel Dispensation: And so they become wilful Opposers, of that which is good in a Disobedient mind, and so call Good Evil, and Evil Good, And that Government that is erected by the Eternal God in the hearts of his people, they despise and contemn, because they are not in a Condition to Answer it, because of their sinful disobedience, and love Darkness more than Light.  
And if People be Simple-minded, We know the faithful-hearted that fear God, into whom he gives a good understanding, will endeavour to inform such, as at any time may conscientiously scruple any thing in this matter; And we say, None should oppose, who do not see, and who do not believe those things, which others both truly see, and to be of God, lest they fight like blind men, but thou in thy wilful mind teachest Rebellion, and to make the minds of the simple-hearted, evil affected with the Government of God and Christ Jesus. Which he hath, and is still Estableshing amongst us, and like jannes' and jambres, thy mind is corrupted to oppose the Truth, being Reprobate or of no Judgement concerning the Faith. For they that are faithful to God know us and our work who are his Servants and Ministers through his Grace Exercised in his Work, and Service; And that we are neither Apostates nor Innovators (for that's thy own condition) as thy lying Tongue would Insinuate— And that Government and Grder, we have Estableshed by the Lord amongst us, is so far from the Spirit of Antichrist in the Estableshment of it, that it is no less than the product of God's Power, and Heavenly Wisdom, which is pure and peaceable from above. But thy Folly will be fully Mannifest, and thy shame will appear, though thou wouldst hid it, by endeavouring grossly to abuse such Ancients in Jsrael, as God hath clothed with his Heavenly Righteousness. I say, thy shame will appear, and thy work of Wickedness will be made manifest to all the Simple-hearted, who in their Souls truly desire to be taught by the Lord that they may be truly Established in his Righteousness.  
And whereas, In thy vl Part (page 11.) thou hast these words; And if this small Tract, as well as other Discoveries of Apostasy and Innovation, become as so many Darts to pierce the bowels of that Cause espoused by those nameless persons, terming themselves the second Days Meeting, even as an Arrow shot at an Adventure, pierced Ahab between the Joints of his Harnass when disguised to save himself, then let us say, blessed be the God of our Solvation.  
Now William, thy Drift & Intent, as what thou aimest at, we clearly perceive, and it is easy so to do; For the Darts thou shootest, thou aimest at God's servants, the Second Days Meeting, to pierce the bowels of their cause, which cause is the Cause of God, and they are and have been concerned against thee, to bear Testimony against that Graceless ungodly Spirit with which thy heart is possessed, that so the Truth being espoused by them, may still prevail over thy Lies and base Slanders in thy wicked Works, who carest little what thou dost, or sayest, if thou canst but make the Truth, and the Professors of it, who are exercised in the Work and service of God, Odious; But all the simple-hearted, who read that Book Entitled, The Accuser, etc. may easily see thy Lies, and Slanders detected, and thy wicked heart, to thy shame, made Manifest, that thou mayst be read as thou art, in thy own Nature, viz. As an Apostate and Common Adversary to God's Truth, and his faithful Servants, who have kept their habitations in the Truth, and stand against thy design, which is wicked— Thou showest thou art of a Murdering spirit, with thy Arrows; but they are turned back upon thee again, to pierce thy own Bowels, Read Psalms the 11.2. Where thou mayst see into thy Work and condition. For Lo, the Wicked bend their Bow; they make ready their Arrow upon the string, that they may privily shoot at the Upright in heart, but thou hast missed the Mark, etc.  
W. R. thou sayest Part 8. Page. 10. Our Ancient Friends J. S. and J. W. when Articled against for not acting against their conscience, etc. And Page 3. thou speakest of J. W. and J. S. again, and Page 6. thou sayest, There is no ground either from the Scriptures of Truth without, or the Light of Christ within us, to believe that any Christian Professor can in Truth affirm, that there are outward Prescriptions, and Orders given forth by the Spirit of God through any one or more mortal men in this our Day, which others ought to obey or follow, whether they see it their Duty or no, so far W. R. Answers. The Insinuation of our giving out Instructions to be practised, whilst people do not see them their Duty, is a false Insinuation; for Instructions of Duty may be given out before they see them such; as believing that God will by his Light discover to them their Duty therein, if they be not obstinate, that they may practise them in the Light.  
Persons not seeing their duty, does not make that void which is in itself their duty; Nor yet ought mens blindness to debar true Ministers from Preaching to them what is their Duty; for many see it not their Duty, to believe the light of Christ in them, and yet it must be Preached to them, to open their eyes, etc.  
Then doth it not plainly appear, that I. Wilkinson, and W. Rogers, are not in the light of Christ, and Spirit of God; but are as yet blind, and do not see that which is given forth from the Light and Spirit of God to be their Duty to Obey and follow? And such by W. Roger's must be Accounted Honourable, Elders and Preachers; And yet in his Sixth Part, Page 12. tells us, The Kingdom of God stands in Righteousness, and Peace, and Joy in the Holy Ghost; and tells us again in his Sixth Part. (Page 3.) of his Inward peace with the Lord, etc. and in his Second Page, Part, 8. there he speaks of the Government of Christ, who alone is Lord over the Conscience; and Page 10. Part 6. he tells us, He is breathing to the Lord of Heaven, That we and G. F. may be humbled before the Lord, and G. F. in Particular, that High and Lofty one, may not utterly fall, etc.  
What a mad Prayer is this! how canst thou be at peace, and breath unto the Lord, and be thus Wicked? for thy Prayers are an Abomination to the Lord. And thou hast not only Judged G. F, but (as thou scoffingly sayest) his party also, to be Apostates; that is, such as have blessed Unity with him in the Truth, which is the whole Body of Friends, who have kept their Habitations in the Living Truth and Faith of God's Elect, which thou art gone from.  
And by what Spirit dost thou pretend thou hast Peace with God, and breathest to God, and tellest of his Kingdom; and yet art blind, and dost not see it's thy Duty to obey and follow that which is given forth from the Spirit of God? etc.  
How can thy Spirit and the Spirit of those, thou termest thy Honourable Brethren, be accounted any otherwise then a lose frivolous Spirit.  
And doth W. R. and those that Encouraged him to public his confused Books, stuffed full of Contradictions, and with a Rabble of false charges (as hath been shown in other Answers in Print) believe, that they proceeded from God's Spirit, when he doth not see it to be his Duty, to Obey that which is given forth from the Spirit of God? are you all of his Mind?  
And he saith, Speaking of the Unction, That by it all things are known.  
And yet he doth not see it his Duty to Obey that which is given forth from the Spirit of God: For this is applied to William Rogers. J. Story, J. Wilkinson, and their Followers, for he doth not mention any others, who are thus Blind, that they do not see; for we who are the Members of that Body which Christ is the Head of, do see it is our Duty to Obey that which is given forth from the Spirit of God in our day.  
Do we not Read that under the Dipensation of the Law, which came by Moses, the Priest's lips were to preserve the People's Knowledge, and to be Instructers to the People in all things pertaining to that Dispensation, that the People might not be Ignorant of the Law of God, but might fully know it; And where they doubted in any thing, that Priesthood was to Complete their Knowledge in it, that they might not plead Ignorance in any thing contained in the Law to be done, for God was able by his Spirit, then both Immidiatly and Instrumentally by his Priesthood, appointed under that Dispensation to Instruct them fully; and none then could say, they did not see, or they did not believe what was the mind of God under that Dispensation. But those that wilfully stopped their Ears, and shut their Eyes, lest they should hear and see, understand and obey the will of God, who Rebelled against the Spirit. And such came to be hardined in their Sins, and Rebel against the Truth, and despise the Government of it, as Korah and his Company in the Conspiracy against Moses and Aaron, etc.  
Much more now in our day under the clear Gospel Ministration, may the Israel of God be fully Instructed both Immediately and Instrumentally by his Spirit, in all things pertaining to the Doctrine and Discipline of Truth and Gospel Government, that their hearts may be subject thereunto: and they need not plead Ignorance, and say, I see not this, or I believe not this, and, If I do this, or Obey t'otheir, it will be a blind Obedience, and I shall do it without Faith or sight. I say, none need plead thus, and upon this ground, and with their blind Minds and dark Understandings in their Disobedience, oppose God's People in what they both see and believe to be given forth by his Spirit. For Christ hath enlightened them all, and hath poured his Spirit upon all Flesh, that they may see and perceive that which is given forth from the Spirit.  
Therefore we do affirm, that every Imprejudiced simple-harted Friend, waiting and following on to know the Lord in his Light and Spirit, will grow up in the Faith, and not oppose the Faithful in their Faithfulness towards God, in what he makes known of his Will. And so the Simple-minded, will mind the Lord and his power, which will preserve them in Unity and fellowship with the Brethren the Members of Christ in the Spirit and Light according to their growth in the Truth, and if at any time there be any Conscientious Scrupling concerning any thing as to matter of Discipline or Government or any thing else, they will be desirous and willing to Ask Council of the Lord, and in Gentleness and Meekness of his Faithful People in sinserity without Opposition, as the Corinthians did to Paul, who answered them cencerning the things they had wrote to him, that they might be Convinced and helped in matters pertaining to Faith and Conscience.  
And where did ever the Jews say to Moses and the Prophets, They were not convinced, and did not see if their Duty to follow and obey that which they declared from the Lord to them? And also where did ever the Disciples of Christ say, We are not convinced, and do not see it our Duty to follow and obey that which thou Commandest us. And forasmuch as it is on Record, that the Apostles and the Elders wrote their Orders and Decrees, and Traditions to the Churches, where did ever the Churches and true believers tell the Apostles, and the Elders they did not see, nor beliebe, and had not Faith in their words, and therefore it was not their Duty to Obey that which they writ, and spoke to them from the Lord, by his Spirit; but called it Imposition, and blind Obedience, this always was a mark of the false Apostles, and Christians who opposed the true; and it was and is the Devil that did, and does blind People now, that they do not see their Duty to God, to do what he commands them.  
Are the Ranters excusable, because they say, they do not see or believe the wickedness they commit to be sin or evil? Will this excuse them in the the day of Judgement? take warning and take heed.  
Must not the secrets of Men be Judged by Jesus Christ, according to the Gospel, which is Preached to, or in every Creature under Heaven? And canst thou, and thine Abettors be excused in your wilfulness, and wicked rebellion against God, and his People, under pretence, that you do not see nor believe? Nay, William, thou and you are seen, and your wicked work is weighed in the Balance of Truth, and found too light, and Woe and Misery from God will be your Portion, except you Repent.  
Your Nakedness doth appear for want of anointing your eyes with eyesalve, that you might see, etc. For truly, since you went from the Light of Christ, by which you were convinced; by which all God's People are now at this day kept in Unity; I do plainly see with that eyesalve God hath given me, that you are got into a Spirit of Rudeness, Lightness, Scornfulness, and despising those that truly fear the Lord; so that it is enough to convince every sober-minded person, what Spirit you are led and acted by, that they may see with the Light of Christ, how you are fallen from the pure truth of the Gospel into Looseness, like so many Way-marks for God's people to shun, etc.  
W. R. Thou makest a great Pother and muddlest thy head about our Orders in part 8. p. 5. and twice in pag. 6. And about outward prescriptions in the same Page twice; and pag. 10. there thou art at it again, and speakest of Decrees and Prescriptions twice over; then pag. 13. thou art at it again, etc.  
Answ. But William, why dost thou make such a confused noise about our Orders, as though thy Head was amazed! And dost so worry them with thy muddled Head, that thou hast not been able to give a perfect list of them, (though it has been of thee demanded, What those Orders are, that our Friends have imposed upon you) For with thy own muddled Head thou thinkest too muddle others Heads with thy making a noise about our Orders, Prescriptions, Decrees and Government; but neither thou nor J. S. nor J. Wilkinson have yet given a full and particular Account of them, what they are, and stated them aright, with the day when, and the Year they were given forth, that people might have seen them, together with a Catalogue of thy own, I. Wilkinson's and I. Story's Decrees and Orders, what they are; thou shouldst have brought them forth, that people might have seen them, and been able to judge of them. So give over thy making a Noise, and Clamouring, and Brawling against our Orders, Prescriptions and Decrees, as long as thou dost not discover them all to the people what they are; that people may not be deceived by thee; and pin their Faith on thy Sleeve; for in this thy empty work, thou hast but been beating the Air.  
And as for the Fruits of a Careless, Lose, Libertine, Dark Spirit, W. R. with all his I●'s in all his Writings hath not proved against G. F. but hath manifested them to be the Fruits of his own Spirit, whose Tongue is become no slander, nor words of any Credit with them that fear the Lord.  
And J. Wilkinson and W. Rogers have not answered G. F's Question yet (though W. R. be at it again in his 8th part, pag. 8.) viz. Whether or no an Heavenly Member of Christ's Body (that is, such as are born again of the Spirit, and of the Immortal seed by the word of God) turns to Dust, Yea or Nay? For G. F's Query was not about an Earthly Member, nor an Earthly Corruptible Body; but an Heavenly Member.  
Part 8. pag. 2, 3. W. R. says, It's the duty of some, etc. to pin their Faith on the sleeves of C. T. etc. Again, This small Tract is now written for the sakes of such among the people called Quakers, as are not yet Principleed to pin their Faith upon other men's sleeves.  
Answ. Are not the spreaders and the sellers of W. R's malicious Books, the pinner's of their Faith upon his sleeve? And yet they are so confused, that they will not stand by him in it. But it was always my Judgement to Judge such, as Pin their Faith upon thy sleeve, or J. S', or J. W's, or upon any else. For the Faith of God's Elect stands in Christ, the Author and Finisher of it. And what need was there, that any one that reads my Book against thee, should pin their Faith on my slieve?  
But W. R. hast not thou Judged us often over in thy malicious slanderous Book, to be Apostates and Innovators? Was not this a just ground for me to declare thee to be of Korahs' Spirit, and of cain's Line? And if thou hast not in thy Book rendered us such, as Apostates and Innovators (unto which I refer the Reader) then clear thyself if thou canst; or else the Burden of my words in my Testimony against thee in that Spirit, thou writ that Book, must certainly lie upon thee. And herein I have not wronged thee, I affirm it, and still charge thee in the same true Judgement, to be of Korahs', and cain's Line, to be sealed down under Eternal Judgement and Condemnation, from God for ever, except thou Repent; and we stand over thee in the Authority of God's Power, and of such as Abet to thee, and adhere to thee in that Malicious, Proud and Lofty Spirit, thou art entered into.  
W. R. saith, part 8. pag. 5. That 'twas safer to have a Dependency on this measure (of Christ's Light) in ourselves, than to have an Eye out to the measures of others.  
Answ. Hath not W. R. shown his Darkness and theirs, that encouraged him to Print his Book? For can any see the measure of the Spirit of Christ, and his Light in others, but by the measure of the Spirit of God in themselves, in which they come into Unity? But where did ever either I or any of our faithful Brethren bring any to look, and have a Dependency upon the Measure in others, and neglect the measure of the Spirit of God in themselves, by which they should be guided to become the Sons and Daughters of God? This was never our Principle, but thou wouldst insinuate such a thing.  
W. R. And in Part 8. pag. 10. thou speakest of a Visible man to be an Eye to see for the rest of the Body; and pag. 11. thou bringest the same; and Part 6. pag. 16. thou art muddling thy head again about the same thing, and tellest of a late Doctrine, viz. Have your Eye to the Brethren. And sayest further, The substance of this Doctrine hath of late been published also in Public Meetings, etc. As in the Natural Body the Eye is placed to see for all the rest of the Members, so also in the Spiritual; and hath been explained so, as it hath been sometimes taken, that G. F. is an Eye for the whole Body, and other times, as if some other Persons were an Eye for a Meeting, etc.  
Answ. But who have published these Doctrines (whom thou hast so backbited in Print) thou hast not named their names; so must I pin my Faith on thy slieve for the proof thereof. But hath not my Caution to the simple-hearted, that they should not be deceived by thy lying slanderous Book, tormented thee and thy Spirit, because of thy wicked Works? And doth not W. R. think himself to be an Eye to his Brethren? And doth he not take himself to be an Eye for John Story, J. Wilkinson, and the rest of the Separate Company? And have not they made him their Eye, and Tongue, and Mouth to Publish their Writings, and Words, and their silly false Certifficate? Or is their Body without an Eye?  
But the living Members, which are the Church, and the Body oh Christ which he is head of, he hath given a Spiritual Eye unto; for he is their Eye by his Light and Spirit, and without him we can do nothing: By which Light all Members do see for themselves, and to edify one another in the most Holy Faith.— And I would have all people to have an Eye from Christ in themselves, that they may see both thy Spirit, and thy Books, which many do now more fully see, than before.  
W. R. saith, in Part 6. pag. 3, 4. When I consider what Multitudes of the weaker sort of people, are apt to be deceived, by Embracing Shadows instead of Substance, and Lies instead of Truth, etc. it hath been one motive amongst others, occasioned me once more to appear in Print.  
Answ. Hath not W. R. appeared here to make the weaker, and them that are apt to be deceived (to believe him to be a strong man) and an Eye to see for them, that which they are not able to see for themselves, nor help themselves who are weak? so doth not he pretend here to see for them, and to be a strength to them? which he says, Hath been one motive amongst others, occasioning him once more to appear in Print? so hath he not made himself a Seer, or an Overseer here among others; which thing in effect, he Judges in the Body of Christ, of which Body we are.  
Now doth not here W. R. confound himself? For why should not those Weak, hear for themselves, and see for themselves, with the Light and Grace of Christ, which thou W. R. confessest to be sufficient? And dost not thou speak of an Unction within them, by which all things were known? Part 8. pag. 11.  
But Is not this the occasion that thou once more appearedst in Print, that those Weak, and such as are apt to be deceived, may look at thy Writings? For thou dost not say, they should try thy Writings by the Light, and Grace of Christ within them, (in the Third and Fourth Pages, Part Six.) But is it not really thy mind, that they should believe thee, to see for them, and help them, and to pin their Faith on thy Slieve? If not, to what end is thy Writing? For if thou seest neither for their Body, nor for the separate Meeting; what doth all thy Scribbling then signify?  
W. R. Part 8. pag. 10. That the Grace of God is sufficient, and that every one is to be left to their own measure. Thou needst not tell us that, who obey it.  
And whereas thou goest over and over in thy Book, telling us of G. F's Party; but this is from thy malicious foul Spirit. We are not such a Party as thou wouldst insinuate, but are for Christ, and all his Believers in the Light, which is the Life in Christ Jesus, before Parties were: And that in the Light, Grace and Spirit of Christ, we might all exalt Christ, both in Males and Females, and by it we may know him to Reign in all our hearts.  
W. R. And whereas thou keepest a Railing against the Second Days Meeting in several places in thy Book.  
Answ. I must tell thee, the least Babe in Christ, that is of that Meeting, hath an Understanding with the Light and Spirit of Christ, to see over thy foul Spirit, and its Works: and God hath given them the Spiritual Judgement to Judge them both. And thou shalt proceed no further, but art detected, and thy Folly will be made manifest to all men that hear or see thy Books. And the God of Heaven and Earth hath suffered thee a while, that when thou hast run thy Race, he may fasten his Hook in thy Jaws.  
And how dare W. R. Part 8. pag. 6. say, That the Second Days Meeting is Guilty of the like Crime, of that nameless Book, that W. P. answered? Whereas Ellis Hooks his name was set to the Book, on the behalf of the Second-Days-Meeting; whose Credit did go as far as W. R's, and farther, among them that fear God. And others also of us do own it, and will stand by it.  
And W. R. Part 6. pag. 9 speaks, Of Saul 's harkening to Samuel the Prophet, etc. ' Which he thinks, should be a warning to G. F. and others of his Party, to hearken unto the Word of the Lord that came through his Servant John Wilkinson, on the Twentieth Day of the Sixth Month, 1675. on this wise, viz. To Repent and turn from your Proceed, and leave God's people to the Order of his Gospel and Command; and that if they would not, than the Lord himself would break them, and turn them one against another about their Orders; so far W. R. of John Wilkinson.  
Answ. But neither W. R's, nor J. W's Words do answer the Light of the Spirit of God in our Consciences, to believe his words, as the word of the Lord, which proceeded from his Imaginations, and lying perverse Spirit. For all the Believers in the Light, which are the Children of Light, are in the Glorious Order of his Gospel, the Power of God, and Command; and others are exhorted to it.  
And J. Wilkinson might see, (and thou also if thou and he will believe Truth) that he is a false Prophet; and his false Prophecy is come upon himself. For how many hath the Lord broken off from them in the North, and also in the South? And through thy Wicked Printings, many have come to see with the Light of Christ your Wicked Spirit, and its Work: And especially when they see J. S' and J. Wilkinson's Orders of giving power to meet; and those that would not take them, but would meet without their Power and Orders, were called Usurpers of Authority.  
And many of these Simple-hearted, which were ensnared by Subscribing to them, are come off from them, and have given Certificates against J. Story and J. Wilkinson, which W. R. saith, It was an Endeavouring to uncover the pretended Nakedness of them, (to wit, his Brothers or Brethren) sending Certificates abroad thereof, Spread amongst Friends and Enemies.  
Now I do understand, that those Enemies were such, as J. W. and J. S. had deceived and drawn into a Separation, or did Abet them; and the Friends were the faithful that kept to Christ their head, and did not follow J. S. nor J. Wilkinson in their Separation. And to such they were sent, that they might see, how they had been betrayed; and as a Warning to others, that they might not be deceived as thou hadst been. So the Spreading of those Certificates according to the mind of those, who had been seduced into a joining with the Separate Meeting, and were brought off through God's Great Mercy, was to the honour of God, and good Caution to others. Neither were they Printed; but sent amongst Friends and thy own Company who are gone into Enmity, and so become Enemies. This is no Parallel to the Printing and Spreading thy Wicked Book with Ham's Spirit, to the dishonour of God and grief of his good People, rendering them Apostates and Innovators, etc. (belying them) and so telling and publishing thy slanders as in Gath and Askelon, to the gladding the hearts of the Uncircumcised, and so manifesting thy own shame in going about to slander such as God hath Clothed, etc. And my Book stands still a Witness and a Testimony upon thy head, and those that encouraged thee, against your foul Spirit.  
And is there none come off in Wilts and Bristol, since the 20th of the Sixth Month 1675.  
I say, is there none come off from J. Story, J. Wilkinson, and W. Rogers? Yes surely, Let Wilts and Bristol speak whether none there have come off from them, and testified against their foul Spirit.  
And W. R. unjustly compares J. Wilkinson and his false Prophecy with Samuel the Prophet against Saul, which he thinks, should be a Warning to G. F. and others to hearken to J. W 's false Prophecy: We have taken Warning but it is concerning thine, J. Story's and J. W's Spirit, and do warn others to reject his false Spirit and Prophecy, which if we should have believed, than we might have Repent of it as some have done.  
And so W. Rogers's and J. Wilkinson's own party is broken to pieces, as the Certificates aforesaid manifest, and God's People are settled and established upon the Rock of Christ Jesus, and by the Certificate that followeth, you may Read J. Wilkinson's Apostasy; how he kept not his first Habitation. And was not J. Story, and is not W. Rogers of the same Spirit with him.  
A Certificate  
FRom William Gandie in Relation of some words in discourse between him and J. Wilkinson at William Gandies' house some Years Past, concerning the Persecution that was made by the late Act against Conventicles, and how liable such as I (to wit William Gandie) who had a meeting twice in the Week at my house, were liable to suffer, because the Informers did know certainly where to find us, but said J. Wilkinson to me, we have taken a Course in Westmoreland, to prevent the informers for having their Prey upon us, for we appoint our Meetings in Private places as Gills and Cloughs, where we think they cannot find us— Then I asked J. Wilkinson how they did appoint their meetings, whether Publicly, etc.— And J. W. said no, privately one to the other,— And then how such Friends should know, who might not be acquainted? or not be at the meeting, And J. W. answered, they kept some one on a Hill, as a Boy, to give such Friend's Notice by signs, as by the Hat, or some such like signs, whither they might repair to the Meeting— And further J. W. advised me, to put the Meeting at my house, to meet under a great Oak, that stands before my door in the Lane or Kings high way, which would prevent them of Twenty Pounds due for my fine, etc.  
This is as near as I can remember the Words that passed betwixt us.  
Now I have often heard that William Rogers was about to Print, but I hoped they would not have been so very Wicked, thus to show their Enmity; but they will have their Reward.  
So in this Day we may Bless the Lord that we have been preserved from that Spirit in our County.  
William Gandie. Cheshire the 9th of the 2d Month 1681.  
W. R. says, Part 8. Pag 14. Not one jota of an Order approved by G. F s Party can be Dispensed with to maintain the Ancient fellowship of the People called Quakers.  
Answer, But W. R. hath not showed wherein, nor what all these Orders are, nor our Ancient fellowship: This is but his empty Clamour like the Rest. And  
Part 8 Pag. 13. W. R. saith▪ whether such of G. F 's party, as declare Dis-union with another Person on the mere foot of that other Persons Conscientious refusal to propose the Intention of his Marriage to a Meeting of Women Distinct from Men, be not a Badge of Apostasy, etc.  
Answer, This W. R. would insinuate, but hath proved nothing with his dark queries, nor named these other Persons, who do Conscentiously refuse. And pag. 15. he speaks of his Declarations of the Ancient Brethren, etc. exalting Christ over all in Male and Female, the hope of Glory, etc. And why should not Christ in the Female, as well as the Male; or why should not faithful Women have a sight into the Marriages in the Covenant of God? And how can any Person Conscientiously refuse or deny it.  
And is not W. R. so high and lofty, that he and his followers do scorn to lay a Marriage before Christ in the Female, as well as in the Male, or before the faithful Women as well as the men, though in their Meetings they may be Distinct or apart from the men, as absent in the Body, present in the Spirit one with another. That so W. R. hath n t yet proved Separation. For some of J. wilkinson's Party have called the Womens-Meetings an Idol; I am a Witness of it.  
Part 6. Page 4. W. R. speaking of Opposers Recriminating Reflections, etc. saith, it hath been one motive among others Occasioning me once more to appear in Print: and one part of my End therein is, that some short Discovery may be made of the ways and means, by which some simple-minded have been betrayed, etc.  
And he further speaking of the Second Days Meeting in London, saith, These few Lines shall remain on Record to the Infamy and shame of such as have approved the aforesaid Books or Papers.  
Answer, W. R. This shame and infamy will remain upon Record against thyself and thine Adherents. And must not these thou calls simple, ensnared, betrayed Friends, pin their faith on thy sleeve to unbetray them? But who the simple betrayed Friends are, what they are betrayed in, and what our Recriminating Reflections are, thou hast not here named. And,  
W. R. Thou sayest, Part 8 Page 11. The sense I have of the snare attending many through Conformity to other men's Lines made ready to their hands in blind Obedience, etc.  
Answers. But who are those that are Conformable to other men's Lines made ready to their hands, and where are the Lines they are Comformable unto? Why hast thou not Printed them all? or must I pin my faith on thy sleeve in this also? But what! W. R. who appearest in Print, for the simple and betrayed, is not the Grace of God within, and the Light of Christ sufficient, by which all must be kept to their own, to see Christ their Saviour, that they need not look at thy Lines made ready to their hands; which instead of undeceiving them, will deceive them the more.  
And as for the Second Days Meetings all thy brawlings and Clamours against the Friends Concerned in that Meeting, they in the Lord's Power do not regard, as knowing thy words to be of no Credit with them that fear the Lord.  
And W. R. are not all the Books, that thou hast Printed against the Faithful (in which thou hast shot all thy Wicked Darts with thy foul Language) like unto J. Story and J. Wilkinson's Condemnation thou drew up for them, which thou called'st a Rattle to please Children? And could there have been more Wickedness known in Man and Dissimulation, than that way? For was not thy Intent thereby to deceive? And was not that a mark and a Badge of thy great Apostasy from the Light of Christ and his Truth? But the Children of the Light, neither thou, nor J. Story, nor J. Wilkinson, were able to deceive; And therefore thou Roarest now like a Bull in a Net, and reproachest such Faithful Friends, as here desired thy Eternal Good.  
And all thy Printed Books are like unto the Rattle thou speak'st of to please Children (and they must be Children indeed, and simple, and Betrayed from Christ and his Light, that believe thy Rattles. But all that walk in the Light, and are grafted into Christ, see over thee and them, and thou canst not deceive them. And therefore thou art in such a Toss and Tempest, and in a fretful, Restless Spirit.  
And what W. R! wouldst thou have a Meeting to wait upon the Lord to Manifest thy Words, Works and Spirit? The Lord hath sufficiently discovered both thy Words, Works and Spirit by his Eternal Power and Spirit, and judged them. Thou sayest, Thou art for Peace; Then call in all thy Dirty Wicked Books, and Condemn them. And do not oppose the Light of Christ and his Grace, the Truth and the Spirit in his people, nor the Gospel, the power of God in Men and Women, which hath led them to Christ and God, to meet in his Power and Spirit, by which they are gathered to him, to take care of God's Truth (which is their Duty) that he be not dishonoured, and the Camp of God may be kept Clean; And to see that all Marriages may be performed desently and in Order, that Christ in the Female, as well as in the Male may have an Eye in them, that both Male and Female being Faithful to God may be Meet-helps together in Truth and in Righteousness and Holiness in Christ Jesus.  
But if thou dost proceed, and goest on, God's Eternal Sword of his Spirit is drawn against thee and that Spirit that takes thy part; and therefore be warned. For its Judgement is begun, and his Sword will not be put up, until it hath perfected its Work: And when thou feelest it cut, and the Terrors of the Lord upon thee, for thy Wicked Works sake; in which thou hast cried Peace, Peace, but instead of Peace, Peace, nothing but Destruction will come upon thee.  
Then William, O the Horror! when the Vengeance of God is upon thee for abusing people with thy deceitful Rattles. Then remember the tender Bowels of them, that sought thy Eternal Good, and would have reclaimed thee; for hadst thou kept to the Witness of God, and Judged J. S. and J. W. thou hadst never followed this Disorderly Spirit of the son of Perdition, which is exalted above all that is called God in thee, which seeks to betray God's people and his Truth (Judas like) to the World.  
But if ever God should be so Merciful to thee as to bring thee down to his Witness in thyself, thou wouldst Lament the Day that ever thou espousedst that Spirit, that led J. S. and J. W. from the Truth, and so turned against the Faithful Friends and Children of the Light.  
W. R. Thou goest over and over in thy Books with slighting Expressions against our Church-Government, and that in a lofty scoffing despising way: But I must tell thee, Christ who is the Governor hath established by his Light, Power and Spirit, his Government in the hearts of all his Children of Light, who are living Members of his Body, his Church, which he is the living head of; and the Gates of Hell shall not Prevail against it. And by Christ's Light in themselves every Male and Female in the Church sees their service and their Duty to God.  
And W. R. Thou art busying and mudling thy head about G. F's Trade, thou hadst better let G. F. and his Trade alone, who never did Despise the smallest honest calling upon Earth.  
W. R. says Part 8. pag. 8. Let G. F. know whether he can receive it or no, that probable the Name of a Quaker might not have been despised so much by many as it now is, had he but followed the example of W. D. and other his fellowlabourers, keeping at some honest outward calling, instead of mudling his head to bring about a Conformity to his outward Orders. For I am fully satisfied in my Conscience, that that noisome scent that hath risen like smoke from the bottomless Pit, hath been occasioned from an Antichristian Promotion of his outward Orders; so far W. Rogers.  
Answ. Now the Reader may see this Man's Spirit, he hath not given a Catalogue of these outward Orders, that the Reader may see them. And his Clamorous Tongue is but from his Antichristian Spirit and Evil Conscience, and the noisome smoke of his bottomless Pit; but he cannot darken God's Air; for the Sun of Righteousness is arisen with healing in his Wings, which shines over all; but God will judge him for his foul Language, and hard speeches; for many weapons have been form against G. F. since he was about 19 years old, and moved of the Lord to forsake all, and to follow the Lamb.  
But how can W. R. tell and be so confident that G. F. hath not some concerns in the outward Creation, having a Family? He hath not proved the Contrary, which he must do, or else stop his Mouth for shame; for if he had not, how is it, that he hath been under sufferings and exercises some Years in several Courts for not paying Tithes, and his quoting W. D. in the case, is mere flattery.  
But what outward calling was that J. Story followed, and J. Wilkinson, (when they were at Bristol? let Friends of Bristol and Wiltshire speak, where they were, and what it was,) whom he calls his honourable Brethren! and how have they kept the Name of a Quaker from being despised there! What a malicious Spirit guides thee to defame (if possible) G. F. that dear and faithful Servant of God, who through his Grace hath been such a Faithful Instrument in his hand, that by him thousands have been converted to God through the Gospel committed to him, and have been shod with the preparation of it to defend them from the Briars and Thorns, the Exercises and Troubles of this evil World, to bring them to Peace with the Lord. And the Authority of God is with him still to preserve him to stand over the Devil, and thy foul Spirit, and all the Agents and Instruments of Iniquity; whose Life hath been preserved through great sufferings. And those wicked Darts, which have been shot at him by thee and such Apostates and Envious ones as thou art, have recoiled back again into their own evil Souls. And who yet ever hated him and scorned him as thou dost, that ever prospered as to Godward, but in the end perished and withered?  
And W. R. thy disdain and folly and malice appears in Reflecting about G. F. his following no outward Calling, who is in his Calling and Service exercised with all his might, that in the end he may give up a blessed and faithful account through the Eternal Spirit of the Everliving God of his Calling and Service, he was in his young years called unto, forsaking all other Callings and Concerns in this World to do the Work he was called unto; and is still in his Calling; and who in this our day hath traveled, laboured and suffered more on Truth's Account, than he hath done? Who is still spending himself, that in the end he may be spent in the Work of it, and lay down his head in Peace and Joy in the Lord. And I am sensible, that all the Witnesses of God in his Tabernacle will arise to judge and witness against thee and thine Abettors in that foul Spirit, by which you are acted to Blaspheme God, his Truth and faithful people. And now if W. R. by outward Orders, means the Men and women's Meetings, which G. F. and many other faithful Brethren and Elders in Christ, were moved in the Power and Spirit of the Lord to direct people to set up such Meetings, did and do answer the Spirit of God, in all that fear him; and with the Spirit of God we witness the Authority of them to be the Power of God; And we do witness with the Spirit of God a great service in them and for them to see and take care for the Poor, and for the Widows and Fatherless; and to exhort and admonish such that walk not according to the Gospel of Christ Jesus, or cause his Name to be dishonoured or blasphemed. And to see that all that do Marry, have their Relations Consent, and be free from Entanglements with all other Persons in Relation to Marriage; and to see, that the Widow and Fatherless, be not wronged in their Estates in Marriage. And we do not limit the Faithful Women in Jesus Christ from their exercise and care in such things, but that all things may be seen to be done in Truth and Righteousness, to the Praise and Glory of God. And these be the outward Orders W. R. speaks of, that stink, and are so noisome, like the smoke from the bottomless Pit, and from an Antichristian Promotion in W. R's Eyes and Nose; I tell him, we will stand by them in God's Power and Spirit against his wicked spirit; and God will Judge him for his foul and wicked words.  
W. R. Thou sayest, part 6. p. 5. 22. what is frequently brought to thy Ears, etc. and thou sayest witness the Persecution raised against J. S. & J. W. and proceeding against John Ainloe at a Quarterly Meeting in the Isle of Ely. And I really pity J. A. that he should ever have given the least occasion wherefore such a wicked adversary as thou art should be an advocate for him against us. Alas Poor J. A! once Dear to me; my Soul wishes thee well.  
But why did not W. R. set down the matter of Fact, that the Quarterly meeting had against John Ainloe, together with the informer's Names, that brought these things to his Ears, and not to hid them under his dark Curtain? But has W. R. sent his informations to the said Quarterly meeting, that the informers have given him, that he might know the Truth of it, before he published it to the Nations in Print? But we can expect little otherwise but General Clamours from this Spirit.  
And it is a gross abuse, and slender to say that ever Persecution was raised against J. W. & J. S. by the Children of Light, but they sought their good; who wilfully resisted all tender Admonitions. And though with thy Wicked Spirit thou over and over smitest at G. F. and other Faithful Elders; yet both he and many others can say, Many Weapons have been form against him and us, by Apostates and profane: But the Lord saith, no Weapon that is form against thee shall prosper; and every Tongue that shall rise up in Judgement against thee, thou shalt condemn. This is the Heritage of the Servants of the Lord, and their Righteousness is of me, saith the Lord: so God has Restrained the Weapons, and he gives Spirit and Power to Condemn those Evil tongues, as thine, that rise up in Judgement against them.  
And something I have to say concerning that Scripture thou bringest Gal. 2. further to manifest thy folly, 6 part, p. 5. W. R. thou sayest, if the mere Discovering of Nakedness by some professor of Truth against another be a Sin, then doubtless Paul was a sort of sinner in leaving it on Record, that he withstood Peter to the face, because he was to be blamed for his Dissimulation, read 2d. Chap. of the Gal. To this I answer that from the 14. verse of the said Chapter we learn, that Paul's reproof was before all Men, etc. Answ. This proof W. R brings to cover himself in Printing of his book, and to abuse the faithful; And this proof he brings for a looking-glass for G. F. to behold his face in, as he scornfully says. And now reader try his Doctrine, whether it be not a proper Looking-glass for himself, and his Company. For 1st. did Paul publish what he blamed Peter for, and withstood him in? and did he spread it up and down in the Nations, yea and beyond the seas, as W. R. or some of his Abettors have done? and have not some Priests and professors got them, that are Enemies to the Light of Christ? let W. R. prove, that Paul did publish a book against Peter, as he hath done against Friends; and Paul's leaving it upon Record, was in his Epistle to the Galatians, and was not that the Church of Christ there? And therefore I put W. R. to prove it, that Paul did publish and spread his book among the unbelieving Jews, or Gentile- Galatians.  
Now we must try W. R. with the Scripture he brings, that the Reader may see how he hath abused the Scripture.  
For in the 2d. Chapter to the Gal. vers. 14. to this he saith, that from the 14. verse of that Chapter we may learn that Paul's reproof was before all men. But let W. R. take his Looking-glass, and see whether he learns any such thing, in the 2d. Chap. to the Gal. vers. the 14.  
The Apostles words are these; But when I saw, that they walked not uprightly according to the Truth of the Gospel, I said unto Peter, before them all, etc. Now before them all, who were them all? were they all the believers then present? he doth not mention here (all men) but says, before them all, who were them all? were they not them that were present? for here is not the Word, Men in this verse; and the Reader may see that W. R has manifestly wronged, and falsifyed the Scripture here.  
And W. R. goes about to confirm it, and saith, If any say Paul did not Publish it in Gath and Askalon; To this He saith, I Answer that from the 14th verse of the 2d chap. to the Gal. we learn, that Paul's Reproof was before all Men. But W. R. and his we, have not learned this from that Scripture, neither did W. R. learn there, that he should Publish his Book in Gath and Askalon, neither that Paul Published that which he blamed Peter for in Gath and Askalon; which thou Fallaciously bringest to cover thy Spirit, but instead of covering thyself, thou hast tumbled thyself over and over in the Dirt, and shown thy own Nakedness.  
W. R. says, Part 6. pag. 5. 'tis frequently brought to my Ears, that our Opposers common discourse is, that I have written a wicked Book against the faithful Friends of Truth; that if all I had therein written were true, yet the Spirit that gave it forth must be wrong, and the same with Hams, because it discovers the Nakedness of a Father.  
Answ. But if therein he alludes to the 5th Page of my Book, he perverts my Words, and the Intent of them; for I do not say, it discovers the Nakedness of a Father, as he hath Maliciously Writ; but my Words are these, That W. R. hath endeavoured to uncover the Nakedness of such as once he accounted his Brethren and Elders, or Fathers, whom God hath clothed. For thou hast not, neither canst thou uncover the Nakedness of such Brethren, and Elders or Fathers, to present them Naked to the View of the whole World, by Publishing of thy Book so that herein thou hast really done worse than Ham, for he wickedly and really uncovered his Father's Nakedness; but thou wickedly endeavourest to do it, or so to present it to the View of the World, to make the Uncircumcised rejoice; so that thy Sin herein is doubled; for thou hast represented the thing which really is not so in itself, that is, they are not Naked, but Clothed with God's Righteousness, whom thou hast represented to be Naked; but hast discovered thy own Nakedness, and herein thou hast exceeded Ham, who discovered a real Nakedness. And also thy malice and wickedness in it hath exceeded his, whose work as I said in mine, may be said to have been a hasty rash Action, done on a sudden, without premeditation; but thou hast long premeditated, and laboured to bring forth thy wicked Book in Print, and endeavourest to betray and deceive People's minds, that they may believe thy Lies, Juggling and Legerdemain, in this matter  
Christopher Tayler   

Postscript.  
SInce these Sheets were written, I have seen three Printed Sheets from one Thomas Crisp, a man outwardly unknown to me, but that he is of an evil Spirit I know well, and as I am credibly Informed, he is one of the old Apostate Quakers, that went out from Truth many Years since; for they say he was once convinced of it, but never since had the happiness, because of his evil heart, to return into it again, as I am informed, but went on still backwards more and more, and was Married by a Priest, and pleads for God's allowance to him in so doing by his Spirit, and also pleads for the liberty of paying Tithes by the allowance of God's Spirit, and also for the use of the Language Truth disowns, as in the second Part of Babel's Builders, p. 5. and in all this would cover himself under the Notion and Profession of one of his Brother William Rogers his Christian Quakers; Now let the Christian Reader consider, whether those aforementioned were the Principles of our Ancient Friends and Brethren, who came forth in the beginning in the great Authority and Power of God; and doth not this envious Spirited man, appear still to be in his Apostasy from the Truth? doth not his Language and Principles bewray him, to be no friend to the truly Christian Quaker? And it may be he thinks now he hath a grand opportunity, by his joining with his Brethren, W. R. J. Pennyman, etc. in their Rebellion and gainsaying the Truth, to become a kind of dark sect-master, amongst their (so called) Christian Quakers; but they are blind indeed; who cannot see such an Idle-headed Apostate as this man is, who would draw Disciples after him, by reproaching God's Truth and People.  
His three Sheets are by him called [the second and third Part of Babel's Builders, etc.] wherein his Idle brain hath been at work, and he hath used my name, or the Letters of it eight or nine times over; And his Text against me it seems is out of the 3d page of my Epistle of Caution, etc. where speaking of dear G. F. abused by W. R. I affirm that still he is made Instrumental in the hand of the Lord to bring forth blessed things for the service of God, and his Truth, from the Oracles of the Divine Breath, etc. This T. C. cannot endure to hear of, no more than his Brother W. R. because they would have him and thousands more that fear the Lord to be accounted Apostates, and so render them dead, and their Divine breath stopped, and so altogether uncapable to bring forth blessed things for the Service of God and his Truth; but that is certainly their own Condition, speaking perverse things in a heady, wilful mind, against such as through the Grace of God have kept the true faith of God's Elect, who cannot be deceived by their speaking perverse things against us, but now Reader observe his forgery, in his 2d page, speaking of our Idol G. F. his Laws, and would insinuate those he calls G. F. his Laws to be an Idol, and me to be an Idolater to Adore them as from the Oracles of the Divine breath, and in the 4th page, he speaks of my having given G. F. unfitting titles, and names, but tells not what they are; and in the 12th page, he is highly offended that I should affirm that G. F. etc. are the best among the Quakers, or the best of God's servants; see his base foolish Spirit: what has this T. C. W. R. J. P. etc. done in their time for God in his service? have they ever been Instrumental to turn one person to Righteousness, since they were called Quakers? or when did any of them Print any thing for God, before they begun to push with their horns against us; Now they are become Champions, such as they are, to draw from the Truth into their own Condition who are Apostatised from it as much as in them lies, and so are the Ministers of the Devil and Antichrist, like ravening evening Wolves and Bears they wait to meet with their Prey, and devour the Righteous seed, but God will confound them, and their wicked design, and we trample in the power of God upon their evil Spirit, if they do their worst. And as Christ Jesus said to Judas, that Traitor, That thou dost, do quickly; so that they do, let them do quickly, that when they have done their wicked work without repentance they may go to their proper place.— And as for my adoring G. F. and his Laws, it is an ignorant, sottish, Idle, Childish Story; I knew before thou T. C. W. R. I Pennyman, were called Quakers how to Adore and Worship the true and living God, and still do know how to love and dearly to esteem such Ancient Elders and Friends as were and are still Instrumental to bring forth blessed things for the service of God and his Truth; and this is done by a Divine breath, etc. and thus to affirm is neither to Adore or Worship Men or Things, but to Assert the Truth, which thou hast not disproved with thy scandalous lying breath, and thy lies and slanders are detected, and I charged thee to make thy charge good wherein I am such an one as Adore G. F. and his laws, as thou calls them; bring thy proof, or eat thy words; for thou hast grossly perverted mine, as the Reader may see; and the least thing that's done by the weakest Instrument in obedience to God's Will, is by a Divine Spirit or Breath, which thou scoffs at, and falsely callest it, Adoring or worshipping G. F, and his laws, etc. and I lay it upon thee when thou Prints again, to set down this Idol what it is, and such as thou calls G. F, his laws, set down a Catalogue of them all, for people will not else I hope be satisfied to pin their Faith on thy, or thy brethren's sleeves, to believe your bawl against them, as if they were some misshapen Monstrous things, Now T. Crisp, I must tell thee, thy cause is naught, and thy brethren's also, and thy and your Battle of Wickedness will come to an end, and I pray God preserve his People unto himself from your muttering, peeping Counsels, who lie in wait to destroy the simple-minded with your Craft and Wickedness; and this is my Testimony, that your Work is wicked, and the God of Heaven is highly displeased with you; and if I should never more in my native Country appear in Print, or however I may in this outwatd World be disposed on, I say, I affirm in the presence of God, that thou T. C. W. R. J. Pennyman, and all the rest, who in their hearts and souls have resolutely Espoused your Cause against G. F. and thousands others, both Elders and Friends of Truth, that though for a while, the Lord may suffer you as an exercise and trial to his People, yet your wicked Rebellion and gainsaying will come to an end; and except it be possible you can find a place of Repentance, your end will be miserable; and this Testimony I leave behind me, however the merciful, good and most gracious God may dispose of me. Oh! my native Country, how dear is my love to thee! Praying that the Lords holy Truth may still prevail in thee, and that my Friends and Brethren in the Truth may be kept faithful in it, that his Glory may still arise, and his Power prevail, so that this Nation may be as a Nursery to the Nations about it, to send forth Rigbteous and Faithful Plants with success into his Vineyard, that thousands and ten thousands may be alarmed by the sound of Truth, to come out of their Graves of sin and unbelief, to the Resurrection, and Salvation of Jesus Christ, Amen.  
The 8th of the 9th Month, 1681.  
Thomas Crisp said, That he hath paid Tithes lately; and that the Spirit of God did or might allow him to pay Tithes or Mary by a Priest; And that by the same Spirit of God another might be required not to pay them, or not to do the same things.  
This Thomas Crisp spoke the day and Year abovesaid, and consented to have it Writ and Printed; and took a Copy of the aforesaid Words.  
Witness John Field, Jun.  
See what an Agent W. R. J. Story and J. Wilkinson have gotten, who is a false, wicked perverter of the Truth and of Friends Ancient Testimonies in the Truth in the beginning. Oh monstruos! To set the Spirit of the Living God against itself! Did we ever thirty years since, and since to this day, Preach for Doctrine, and tell People, The Spirit of God did or might allow them to pay Tithes or Mary by a Priest; and that by the same Spirit of God another might be required not to pay them, or not to do the same things? Here the Reader may see their Confusion and Blasphemy against God's Spirit and Truth, what they would be at under the Pretence of Liberty: so that at the last (for aught I know) they may commit gross Evils, which Truth Condemns, and say, It is their Liberty, and God allows them to do it by his Spirit, though others may be Judged for it; And so by this wicked principle usher in all manner of Ranterism. Alas! how miserably blind are those that cannot discern these men's wicked and ungodly design, how mad and wicked they are to make void the Cross of Christ, and wrest the Truth to serve the Turn of their own Licentious Spirits and Carnal Minds. And I doubt not but some of these Brawlers against us, are got too far with their Liberty into the Ditch already to their own destruction, who do not deserve the name of a Quaker.  
And now at this time, when we are exposed to great sufferings by Imprisonments, spoiling of Goods, etc. for these Apostates T. C. W. R. and their Adherents to be so malicious, as at such a time as this, to render us Odious to the World by spreading and Printing their defaming, lying, and slanderous Books against us: All sober Readers may see, how the malicious mask is taken off these Babel-builders, and so their Spirit is seen to be the same with those old Apostates, that are gone before them; And that they do but hypocritically deceive People in pretending themselves to be Quakers, who are none, nor Children of the Light, as may be seen by their Books and Principles; And from that meek Spirit of Life and Truth they are gone; and under pretence of exalting Christ and his Kingdom, they are exalting self, and with it are opposing the Order of the Gospel, and the Law of the Spirit of Life, which is in Christ Jesus: and their wicked Spirit and Work is to be Judged out of the Camp of God.  
John Story being asked, why he did not hinder William Rogers from Printing his great wicked Book against us? in my hearing he Answered, That William Rogers was such a Strong Wilful Man that if he set upon a thing, he would do it, if all the World set against him. So that W. R. may see what Esteem J. S. (his great Elder and Brother) had of him, if he spoke not in hypocrisy at that time.  
And W. R. what is that Honour that thou so often over and over in thy great wicked Book giveth and applaudeth to J. Story, and J. Wilkinson? is it from Above or from Below, Spiritual or Temporal, Heavenly or Earthly? Answer Yea or Nay.   

Against W. R's Charge of Popery, and others.  
WHereas W. R. 8th Part Pag. 3. as in many other places, Chargeth us with Popish Principles and Practices. And Page 5. reflects on learning from Authors. And in particular R. Baxter, as if G. F's Cause were at a low Ebb, in being beholding to him and Presbyterians. To these few words at present. G. F's Cause is no more beholding to him and Presbyterians, etc. than to W. R. J. S. and J. W. etc. when they confess to Truth against themselves, or practise it, and yet blame it in others. To that purpose I cite R. B. and others, 
C. 1. Sect. 45.  who in his History of Bishops and Councils, speaking of some Papists, says, he cannot believe they were ill men; wherein I compare his Charity (though accounted of the riged Sect) with W. R's, though owning Universal Grace, yet excluding Micha's Mother from his, and though the Presbyterians now join with W. R's abettors, against women's Services in the Church, yet formerly they did not so; But stood for them, as some also of other Persuasions. As D. M. Sutcliff Dean of Chelsy College, 
False semblant, etc. c. 6.  a Cheiftain for the Church of England, proves from a Sermon of theirs on Rom. 12.8. saying, unless they have Deaconesses, they exclaim that the Church is maimed, (and condemn all other Churches) because Widows are Members of the Church, as a Body, showing mercy, etc. And the said Doctor confesses, that Ancient Churches, divers of them, had Widows and Virgins, but not as Officers (which Titles we stand not for, 
* Ibid. cap. 13. from Act. 13.1. Cap. mass. Musculus Soc. Com. Of the Nature and Administrations of the Church lib. 2. c. 4.  nor single life, nor other circumstances, which vary with times, but substance) And says, if such were restored, they would resemble Nuns. But Junius a great light in the Protestant-Church, as some call him, in the place cited already, speaking of Deaconesses, says, they did partake of the Ministry or Deaconry, as far as Women were fit for it. And that some footsteps of this remains in Hospitals, etc. where Nunes sometimes are placed for service, as Rubbish of a decayed house. And wishes that the Ministry of Women were restored, according to the Rule of God's Word, the Examples of the Ancients, and the Laws of Charity. This to stop the scorn and aspersion that I read in Popish Authors. 
Cave, Gualther, Bucan.  For besides Langley's Abridgement, a Protestant, I name three other Protestants besides these here; And could do many besides in time, I Question not Henoch Clapham, who writes also against the Puritans (as Sutcliff, 
Clapham Brief of Bible, 2. Part. Staff. 13.  some whereof were for Deaconesses; as appears in his Epistle Dedicatory to the Arch Bishop, in K. James' Reign, yet confesseth that almost all grant easily that there were two sorts of Deacons, or Church-servitors, the first of men Act. 6, 3, etc. 1. Tim. 3. ●8. the second of Women, 1. Tim. 5.9, etc. Rom. 16.1. And that they attended the sick and impotent many held. So he. But some as the Priests cry Popery, Popery, as Papists cried Heresy, Heresy, to people Ignorant of those things; without any proof? but as Thiefs in the head of the Hue-and-cry; by their suspicious clamours to cause the honest man to be taken that they may escape. As may be seen in a piece with G. W. I have writ in answer to a Priest about Durham, about Justification. And in an answer to a Priest in Scotland by Geo. Keith, called, Quakerism no Popery. And now seeing these men cry Popery, but prove it not, I shall in short at present prove our Assertions not Popery from the Chieftains against Popery, 
Controu. 4. q. 7. l. 2. n. 3.  viz. D. Whitaker, and Juell against Bellarmin and Stapleton, the Great Popish Polemic Doctors. The first Whitaker, says, not only Peter, but any the meanest Minister can impose and bind the Consciences of men, not as Author, 
Explic. Cat. de peccat. Act. dist. 3.  but as Minister; but I find not in him, or any other, the Condition if they be convinced. Nay, on the contrary, I find in Ursin assented to by Panaeus and Junius, all eminent Protestants, a distinction of sin against Conscience, and sin not against Conscience, grounded on 1 Tim. 1.13. with whom Beza agrees; 
Beza on the place. In Obenheim pugn. Expos. pag. 607.  that Ignorance is a sin, though not so great. The like with Brentius an Eminent Protestant also, and Theophylact, called a Father, on Joh. 9.41. and ch. 15.22. , Act. 27. against D. Cole, affirming ignorance to be the Mother of Devotion, citys Agustin on Psal. 33. saying, the Kingdom of Ignorance is the Kingdom of Error, Origen, 

Origen on numb. hom. 27.  
Conc. Tolet 4. can. 24.   that the Devils have possession of them that are Ignorant. Toledan Council, that Ignorance is the mother of all Error. But the Libertin Doctrine is, If Ignorant of, or not seeing it our Duty, that is free from Conviction, then free from Error, free from sin, free from Satan, free from Church censure, etc. And then is not Ignorance the mother of Freedom from sin and Satan. And how comes that short of the Papists, That its the mother of Piety, as they say, This is the Consequence, that Ignorance is a safe State, though Christ says, the blind may be led into the Ditch. I know of none that say among us, follow us blindly without any sight at all. But to keep the single eye open, to see in measure, to see whom to follow, as they follow Christ. 
Joh. 3.19.  For if they abide in darkness, loving darkness rather than light, and hating it by which they should see, 
Rom. 1.2.  'tis through their evil deeds: And if their foolish heart be darkened, 'tis because they liked not to retain God in their knowledge, though that which may be known of God is manifest in them. And if given up to believe a lie, 
2 Thess. 2.10, 11.  'tis for not receiving the love of the truth, but having pleasure in unrighteousness, These causes of Ignorance in Apostates from truth are declared by the Scriptures, & Primitive Doctrine. And if it hath been declared, you are not Condemned for what you know not, but for what you know and disobey. It is to be understood only Comparatively, 
Act. 17.30.  as in the places above quoted; and that the time of Ignorance has been winked at. 1. Cor. 4.4. Paul saith, I know nothing by myself (or I am not Conscious) yet am I not hereby justified. And Beza (no friend, but great Opposite, 
Larger Notes.  to Papists) on that place saith, This saying of Paul is to be restrained to a certain supposition; For Spirits both are to be judged; and we ought to try ourselves, whether we be in the Faith. Neither also doth the Apostle Condemn private Judgements of Charity; and much less either Civil or Ecclesiastical Polity.  
But enough of this at this time (one may think) to balance with a private uncharitable Judgement, that our Doctrine and Practice is Popish; without any other proof, but that W. R. is so persuaded, he hath said it and the people must pin their Faith on his sleeve. His Authority is all, as all Authors; thereby he charges us virtually with them all in Gross, in the lump. But let us see them single, to be tried, seeing herein we must be tried by them; for as Erroneous Doctrine must be tried by the Scriptures, as they say, and Spirits by the Spirit; So Popery being that which came up under the Pope, and generally opposed by Protestants, can only be proved to be such by their Authors.  

Possevinus in Atheismis cap. 13.  For Socinianism denying the divinity of Christ, a gross Error, yet is not Popery. And Papists holding the Contrary is not therefore Popery, but was before Popery, Truth. So herein he has also but exposed himself an evil surmiser to those he has exposed us to as such. 
Gault. on Jon. 1.  For whose sake also this is, to prevent the poison of prejudice and jealousy, than which nothing is more fallacious and unjust, 
Arg●on is't. ein Schalck. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉.  according to the Germane Proverb. To which agrees the Greek vers. signifying that 
More devilish slanders arise from thoughts than deeds.  
Proverb. 18.17. He that is first in his own Cause seemeth just, but his Neighbour cometh, and searcheth him.   
A lover of Truth, R. R.  
FINIS.