A DIALOGUE BETWEEN LOD. MUGGLETON AND THE QUAKERS: Showing forth the Damnable Blasphemies of that Impudent Impostor, collected out of their own Printed Letters. To Vndeceive the People. Licenced according to Order. London, Printed for J. C. 1677. A Dialogue, etc. IT is very observable, that when Men have once shaken hands with the Ancient Orthodox, and undoubted Principles of the Church of England, they soon after bid Adieu to Morality, Manners, and Discretion; and suffering themselves to be hurried on by the impetuous Blasts of giddy headed Frenzy, stop not till they are plunged in those ominous Quagmires of Atheism, Irreligion, or Heresy; whose fatal Effects the yet yawning Wounds of many hundreds of Families in this Nation do but too recently declare. It is no small Grief to the Conscientious and Learned, to see the Profane and Ignorant make a Trade of their Professed Christianity, and reckon to themselves some Hundreds per annum upon the Invention of some innovated or unheard of Doctrine. But above all, whoever attempted any thing in this kind, I think this Muggleton to be most notorious. However these Seducing Impostors (like Jealous Harlots) are by reason of their Secular Interests rendered uncapable of living near one another without Railing; insomuch that if the Devil were of so morose a Constitution as that Philosopher, who never laughed but when he saw a Mare mumbling of Thistles, he would surely have stretched his Spleen in deriding at those Illiterate Disputations have passed between Muggleton and the Quakers. Which because I have here undertaken to sum up, and to show the unacquainted Reader the Ridiculousness of the one, as well as the Profaneness of the other, I think fit to let him understand, that the Quakers having been several times baffled out of their principal Tenets, were at length no longer able to maintain their invented Fopperies, but by running to Enthusiastic Sanctuaries, amusing their most Rational Opponents with an Harangue of those extraordinary Gifts of the Spirit, and that unusual Light within, which they pretended was committed to their charge. Now this Lodowick Muggleton being destitute of many of those natural Endowments, as well as artificial Acquirements, which have given some colour to the Errors of more Learned Men, builds upon the Quakers Foundation, and talks as far beyond them of Visions, Revelations, Commissions, and Enthusiasms, etc. as they did to others before in the same kind; as you shall hear by this ensuing Dialogue, collected out of both their Letters sent to each other, and now printed and bound up together in a Book of Muggletons' called, The Interpretation 〈◊〉 ●he Eleventh Chapter of the Revelations. Rich. Farnsworth Quaker, pag. 4. Lodowick Muggleton, thou pretendest to have received a Commission by a Voice from God, whereby thou becomest Judge, Accuser, and Witness, to curse and bless according as thou pleasest; and whosoever thou dost bless or curse, it is not in the power of Men nor Angels, no nor in the Almighty himself, to revoke from Eternal Damnation. Muggleton pag. 40. My Commission of the Spirit is as true as ever Moses or the Prophets were, and of as great, nay greater Authority than theirs, and given by the same Spirit. Quaker pag. 41. But thou art singular in thy Doctrine, Knowledge, Judgement, etc. and under pretence of a Commission from God, hast presumed to exalt thyself above God and Christ, in affirming thy Sentence (if once past) unrevokable even by the Almighty himself. Muggleton pag. 43. You would have said as much of Peter if you had lived in those days; and yet you see God gave that power to Man to keep the Keys of Heaven and Hell, pag. 44. and as he had power to bind and lose, to remit or retain; so likewise hath the same God given me to bless and curse Men and Women to eternity, pag. 45. I do neither bless any out of Affections, neither do I curse any through Envy or Malice; but it is either because they have sinned against the Holy Ghost, or else I do know them to be of the Reprobate Seed. Quaker. How dare you exclude all other Ministers and Messengers by this pretended Power, and only assume that Commission to yourself? Muggleton pag. 46. As true as God is Truth, there is no true Messenger, Minister, or Ambassador of God in the World but myself, neither shall there be any sent of God after me to the World's end, pag. 47. For it is God's practice to give Authority to Men that are mortal, to condemn according to the tenor of their Commission, whether it be for a Temporal or a Spiritual Death; and that you and such as you shall find to your eternal sorrow, make as light of it as you will. Quaker. If thou art so great a Prophet as thou pretendest to be, why is not thy Name inserted in the Holy Scriptures, as other Prophets were? Muggleton pag. 149. If you had lived in Christ's days when he was upon Earth, you ●ould hardly have found his Name recorded in the Law and the prophet's; nay it is more probable that I am ordained the Chief ●udge, because my Name is not recorded in Scripture. If there had been such a Name written in Scriptures, that he should be the ●●st Prophet in the World, many would have named their Sons Lodo●ick Muggleton, and that is the cause there is so many Johns, Tho●asses, and Jeremiahs, etc. Furthermore, in Sam. Hooton's and W. Shepherd's Letter to Mug●eton, pag. 7. wherein they begin thus. Friend, for so we can call thee, as Christ did Judas, here is some Queries for thee to answer in writing, or else for ever stop thy mouth: ●r what reason did Christ come into the world? Muggleton's Answer. Christ came into the world to destroy the Devil, which is the Spi●● of Reason, of which Spirit most of the Quakers are of Quakers. Is the Spirit of man mortal or not? Muggleton. It is Mortal, and doth and shall die with the body. Quakers. How camest thou by this pretended Commission, or how canst thou give 〈◊〉 any reason to believe it? Muggleton pag. 67. That I have this Commission I prove thus: Because I do know by 〈◊〉 revelation of Faith, that God did speak to John Reeve three morning's together distinct words and sentences to the hearing of the ear, 〈◊〉 51. Feb. 3, 4, 5. and gave him a Commission as he did Moses. And as ●●ron was given to be Moses' mouth, so was Lodowick Muggleton ●●●en to be John Reeve's mouth; so that John Reeve being the chief ●●●ilst he was living, but since the Burden or Commission of the Lord ●●●h been laid upon me: as Elisha had a double portion of Elijah's ●●rit, so have I had a double portion of Revelation of the spirit since ●●●n Reeve departed this life. Quakers. By what rule or method dost thou judge and pass condemnation on thy ●●●w creatures? Muggleton pag. 70. 〈◊〉 go by as certain a rule as the Judges of the Lord do when they give judgement according to the Law, only I have no Juries, nor accusers, nor witnesses. What Jury had Elisha when he called for fire from Heaven, to fall upon two Captains and their fifties? What Jury had Peter when he smote Ananias with his sword? But to give the Reader better satisfaction, I shall show how I condemn men and women at a distance. 1. There must be some of my faith who hath heard them speak wicked speeches against me and my Commission, and so thereupon I have sent the sentence unto them. 2. I do never pass sentence upon them, unless I have some writings under their own hands, as I have from you Quakers. Thus (Reader) I have entertained thee awhile with the Errors, Blasphemies, and Irregularities of Lodowick Muggleton; on which fearing thou shouldst be by this time cloyed, I shall divert thy melancholy, and please thy curiosity, with some of those strange Heresies and ungrounded principles which Muggleton not without some reason in many places lays to the Quakers charge; so that when they are both deliberately considered in thy serious judgement, thou mayst strike thy hand on thy breast, and wonder how many silly soul● could ever be deluded by such Idle Blasphemous and Irrational Impostors. Muggleton, before he lets fall his shower of ponderous Arguments on the Quakers, salutes them with this Prologue, to give them time to set themselves in a defensive posture against the intended rage. You are much mistaken if you think to deal with 〈◊〉 Prophet, who hath a Commission from God, as you deal with th●● Priests of the Nation; because you are fallen to a more precise kin● of life than they, and have amazed them with your feinged Light within, you must not think to do so by a commissioned Prophet. Quaker pag. 21. Thou sayest that we deny both the Father and the Son, and that we deny the same flesh and bones which Jesus suffered death withal upon t●● Cross. Ibid. 2. You say that we deny he was laid in the grave, rose againe and was seen by the Apostles; I challenge thee to tell me, where and 〈◊〉 whom these things were denied by any of us, or else be thy mou●● stopped for ever after. Muggleton pag. 21. According to your charge I shall acquaint you with both the pla●●● and persons. The place East Cheap, at a Butcher's house, and 〈◊〉 persons which denied them were first the Butcher himself, I think his name was Whitpan; another of them was Fox the younger, who is now both dead and damned to eternity; another of them was J. Harwood; as for the other two, I have forgot them, but one of them was a great Lubbardly Fellow, perhaps you may know him better than I. Pag. 22. Secondly, as for my Cursing: If it were a sin in me, it must certainly be a greater in you, who have nothing but that fictitious light within you, to warrant you from that just imputation which may be justly thrown on your most damnable Doctrine: and that light within, which you so much brag of, is nothing but the Whimsies and Chimaeras of your frantic brains; insomuch that it differs in you, every one sharing more or less, according to their natural bilities. 3. This light within you is nothing but the Capriccios and Levaltoes of your mad brains, in as much as it leads you to actions of Sorcery and Witchcraft before you begin that pretended devotion; so that you often sit as if you were suddenly struck dumb or bewitched for two hours' space before you utter one word again, pag. 7. Do you blind Quakers think, that the repeating of Scripture texts doth prove my Commission a pretended thing? Then I say, those Jews which were under the Law of Moses might as well have said, that the Apostles commission was but a feigned thing; and so they did, therefore they persecuted them for it, as you would me if it lay in your power, as it did in theirs. I shall therefore speak a few words to you Sam. Hooton and Will. Shepherd, because you two have committed that unpardonable sin which will never be forgiven either in this world, or in that to come, in speaking evil of the Doctrine and Declaration of the Spirit and Commission we received from the True Personal God without us, even the man Christ Jesus in Glory. His form of Cursing. Therefore in Obedience to my Commission, I do pronounce Sam. Hooton and W.S. for their Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit that sent me, Cursed and Damned Souls and Bodies, from the presence of God, Elect, Men and Angels to Eternity. FINIS.