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J»4>,-'/ (.■'/• •' ■../'■ PROCEEDINGS AT THE FIRST GENERAL MEETING .r*?':;/'^^"'^ EEFOEM ASSOCIATIOI OF CANADA, HELD AT THE ROOMS OF THE ASSOCIATION, TORONTO, ON MONDAY, 25tli MARCH, 1814. -v:v'-.:' .^.--^--' :■■ TORONTO: ■ PRINTED BY ORDER OF THE REFORM ASSOCIATION OF CANADA, BY GEO. BROWN, AT " THE GLOBE " OFFICE, 1 12, KING ST. ,.-.,„,, i%.. 1844. "4 ^ / M ■ r • i n IP ./-d/ y i.;.M ■^H^^ ■■ PROCEEDINGS AT THE FIRST GENERAL MEETING UF THE . I REFORM ASSOCIATION OF CANADA. ■ f'j The first General Meeting of the Association took place last evening, (25th in^.t,) «nd the proceedings will not tail to produce a powerful eflfu'Ct throughout the country. The feeling which prevailed during the whole evening was of the most onthusiasdc descriptioa. The Speeches were delivered with much vigour, and < f thein it i ^ enough to my, that they were listened to by a large audience witli marked attention a:id approbation from half-past six to half-past eleven o'clock. We would only say to our brother Reformers throughout the country, — here wc have commenced the campaign ; the ball has received its first forward impulse in the City, — let it be taken up in every county, in every village, and in every hamlet of the country, — and let us show that we are not a divided people, that an overwhelming majority arc determined to receive, and will take no less, than their full share of the privileges of the British Constitutjono The Association has leased the suite of Rooms attached to the North American Hotel, including the large public room, and here the Association commenced their public proceedings. The meeting was called for six o'clock ; by that hour a large number of persons had assembled ; at half-past six o'clock the room was densely crowded, and during the evening many went away unable to gain admittance. HON. JAMES R. SMALL rose and moved that the Hon. Robert BALDwiff do take the Chair. The motion was received with loud acclamations, and the honourable gentleman rook his seat. A number of lietters received from Gentlemen la the neighbourhood, who had bcel} invited to take a share in the proceedings of the Evering, were laid before ■ tht Meeting by the Secretary, The following are copies of a few of them : LETTER FROM JOHN WETENHALL, ESQ., WARDEN, . . . GORE DISTRICT. ;l! - :. Nelson, 21/A AfarcA, 1844. 1'^ Sir,— I beg to acknowledge the receipt of your letter of the 20th inst., requeslin'i; fne t« aNend a meeting of the Reform Association, on Monday the 25th inst, 1 re'gH>t it is not in my power to comply with your wishes, the notice being so short that, | find it impesdble to be in Toronto m time. Being obliged to write this letter hurriedly, in order to allow time for you to receivf h before the meeting, and to give you an opportunity of selecting some other individual in my stead, I will only adJ, thociation, uml can asanre yon that 1 »lionl(l be iiioHt happy to attend, but 1 regret that the state of my health, whicli has eonlitied u\c to the houae for the last two monthfi, still prevents nie from fioint; ont, e.«pf(ially in the evening. I therefore beg that yon will do me the favonr to excuse me for this thne, and ihat you will assure my friends that 1 am, and shall always he, ready and willing to promote hy my humble endeavours the loyal and good cause for whicli tin- Association has l>eea formed. Yours truly, THOMAS G. RIDOUT. To Geokge Brown, Esq. i '11 eaml the The one] bull of t a d<| the sued LETTER FROM JAS. SiMITH, ESQ., BARRISTER, PORT HOPE. PoKT HoPK, 22f/ Marefi, 1844. Deaii Shi,— Your letter of the 20th, rerjuestinj;,' my attendance at the great meeting on Monday next, was received to-day, and 1 regret, that my business will not admit ol' my leaving home, otherwise I should most certainly he present on that occasion. In the mean time I am pleased to be able to say, that " the work goes bravely on " in Durham, and that I think we shall give Durham definition of Responsible Govern- ernmeni in due season. I am, • ■■ • .;.■.-:} Your'a, &c., S. Connor, Esq., Toronto. JAS. SMITH. , ; LETTER FROM G. S. TIFFANY, ESQ., HAMILTON, ' ""■ HamUto7i, 25t/t Mdrchf 1844, Mv Deab Sir, — Your note inviting tny attendance this evening at a meeting a( the Reform Association of Toronto, was only received by me late on Saturday, I regret that business engagements will prevent me from being with yon. The ReformCTS every where, within my observation, highly approve of the Association, and hope that through its agency the party will be brought to act with more union than heretofore. We have here commenced an organization, which is intended to form a part of, or act in concert with, the Association, as you will perceive by the public papers. The Committee appointed at the meeting of the 9th inst., have elected C. C. Ferrie, Esq., Chairman, and S. B. Freeman, Esq., Secretary, and our report of the proceedings of that day, as well as our addresses to the Reformers of the county, will appear tomorrow. We think it highly necessary • that the false statement given by the Gazette should be contradicted. The opposition was completely baffled and beateo on that day, as well as outnumbered. Their conduct is not the less reprehensible. We shall proceed with the organization of the county. 1 think it would be well to have all members of local Committees become members of the Association, so that, in fact, the grand Committee at Toronto would be the Provincial Committee, wnd this would complete the organization we require. I suppose this is your intention. Our Secretary was instructed to enter into communication with you. 1 have an extensive acquaintance in this and the adjoining Districts, and so far as I have been able to ascertain the state of public opinion, it does not appear to have changed in the least in favor of the Governor-General's view of Responsible Government. The Reformers, generally, have a very correct idea on that subject. By promulgating some political information, exposing the errors and duplicity of our opponents, and opposing |o their industry, equal mduslry, we have nothing to fear. . j ,.,*...,.,„,; The ri'.'^ull of our Mmiu'ljiiil rli-ctioii for Mils Town, Iiiis hiM-ii Jiiiyn'prcsrnfcd by tlio Biirne Gazc:.!i\ TIiin-c out of llie li)iir uicmliois of tin- lidaid arc ifpiiu-d llcroiiiiorH, and tlip tiiuitli jj;iiuTi)lly voU'd our lirkol ; lit- \v•a.^ tlcclLvl |)y Ilcronui'is on local (,ronnds. Tlie Torifs cduLI not run a sinjil.' cundidalc, hut were rfdntcd to jfivc their support to one of two Rcfornn'r.-, in iliri-i' ol' tin- Ward.-i. Siill the i-hclion .vas nol ajioliiical one, but was out' ot locaiii)'. 'I'iir I'rc.-ii.'ciit was clccii'd .'-olciy on iliin y;]! mid. 'V\\v iiifnilxTH of the lornicr Jioiir I, with hul one cxcciition, rol'iiscd to oiIit as caiKiiiiiiics. 'riiorc i» a decided majoriiy ot lU'|iiriiit.'r.s in each W ard asi well aa in the whi>le town. • My opinion is, t!int, west of the lloini- Di.stiiet, there will not he a Toiy returned nt the next election, with the c.vceiilion of tiie Town of L(jndon, — wi.-hiny you every success, I remain, yours truly, , GEORGE S. TIFFANY. Gr.oROj: BitowN, EiQ. Mr. BALDWIN then rose, nniiilst loud and long continued cheering, and said tliat he felt particularly giaiihed at the honour which had heen conferred upon him, in calling upon him to fireside at tlie lirt-t General Meeliii inlup' of t!io ovUm, to the oxistnnce of wliich he attriuuteu the uiisHii.^liiciDry ftt;idiiio.i ol' die rroviiiee, lie proceeds: — "It is not by wcKkeuini? Imt strciifittheiiin'^' ihi' irilhi(>n(;e of the people on its GovcrnniJiii, by (,01111111111,' wtiiiiii iiuicli imnowci" boiinds tlinii ihofe hilhertt) nllotted to it, Hill not by extciili li,' the mii'ifi'ii.'iice of iIk; Imju'riiil tuitborili 8 in the dctmls of Colo.iiiil u.uiirH, t.iiii 1 brlicve iliiit liaiiiioiiy is to be r-siori'd where di-sseiision has so lo.ig previiile I, iind a i:uij;ht of. To conduct their Government harmoniously, in accordance with its esiiibli.-'hed principles, is now the business of its rulers, and I know not how it is pos.-ilile to secure thnt harmony in any other way than by administering the Government, on those principles, trhirh hare hcen fond perfectly efficacia, s in Great Britain. I iro. Id nut impair a single prerogatire of the Crown ; on the contrary, 1 bi'lieve that the iiiiere! prii gor ttuil the! thcl th/ he Then, nfier rcfi-ning to ilie idli' aiiciii|ii of houw to (Iciiy 111'- npplicubility of Uita principle tu tlio puaiiiuii ul a Ci.NTs on one raiher than on another set »f persons in the Colonies, lor litis is really tlie only question at issue." (Hear, hear, and cheers. ) And again, vt'ith reference to the absurdity of supposing the people of the Colonies to be opposed to the principle which, it would be recollected, was one of the fallacies imposed, or attempted to be imposed on the IJome Government by Sir F. Head, he adds : •• Nor can I conceive that any people, or any considerable portion of a people will view wjth dissatisfaction a charge which would anionnt simply to this : t/iut the Croion would hencelorth consult the icishes of the people in the choice o( lis sen ajiis." The reading of these well known extracts had ihken longer than he wished, but he felt it important that they should be kept piominenily before the public, because they embrace the great principle which was subsequently ennunciaied in Parliamentary form, under the express sanction of Lord Sydenham, in the famous Resolutions of 3rd September, 1841, which declare that, " The Representative of the Sovereign in the Province, is responsible to tlie Imperial authority alone, but that nevertheless, the management of our local affairs can Ofdy be conducted by him, by and with the assistance, covnsel, and ii\formation of subordinate officers in the Province." And that such subordinate officers, "consti- tuting a Provincial Administration under him, ought to be men possessed of the confidence of the Representative^ of the people, — thus affording a guarantee that the well understood wishes and interests of the people will on all occasions, be faithfully represented and advocated. " (Hear, hear,) And because they led to the overthrow of that wretched system of government so strongly denounced by Lord Durham, which Lord Sydenham declared he would not have raised an arm to uphold, and which led to those lamentable events which we have all so much reason lo deplore. But which it was now attempted to re-establish, by misapplying to it the name of th9 very system which had superseded it. (Hear, hear.) ,,^,' il^l s Mr. woiilil lick liny niim tn i'imuI lln'sc cMnu'tM carefully, mid Miy whctluT lie found any Iriici' ol iIk- mw liiii;;l'(l cla>'iti(alii)ii ot pnlilic iii.iilcrs int'i ilinsi' o| •• Hilniiuiie iiiiporlaiico," aiui iIioho of " itia(liM|uiili' iinpoiiiiiifi'," wliiili soiiii* jtiT'Oii or ollitT (lor it wiiH n-ally hard to nay iti lln; pr< sciil ^lall' nl ll\i' ( Ji)Vi'riiiiicnt who did advise liiH Kxci'iiciiry,) (Ip-ar, IhmiJ had luivi.-i'd ihr iliini'scuialivc ot ilic »So\i'H'iuii la make ill his n-ply to ilic Wardi'ii and ('oiiiicillnr.s ot (ioir. 'I'liu ( hishilicalioii of public alliiirs in Lord Dnrliiiiii's ll('|ioii, was hiiH( d ii|ion a iiiincipii' rnidily coinprt'lu-ndcd and capahli' ol a tree application, natinly, tliinte, irliith tijfirt the rtiutinna of the Ciiloni/ iritli the Mntliir <'i>;(ntnj, and tlio.tc which do not; (hear, hear,) over the liirmcr ol whiili ihc conirol ol ihc Aloihcr Conntry whh to he maiiifaiticd, and liii! laiicr ol which was to he conducted In/ ninuin <{/' Ihnda Delta rtiiteiit.i with piiiisrlij that iunilatiiiii of thr. iis/jcrtiic /jdinr.i irhich has been so lung, unit no tiisihj maintiiiiietl in Uiciil Hrilnin. (tllicers. ) But how iMcpostcrous to set ii|i HU
  • )iiitil np|i<)iiilnii*iil»< nn oiif n \ riiKii rii v.v <>> ^noiiikk sir ni' mi:n in vih. dti.owv.H f (tlrnr.) And do not tin; K ■.■<()ln:ionH oi IHU nio.^t di.-iuii ily (loiiit out ilx- cxiii'ihs object ol llie (Jonslilniioual iicri'MMiy I'nr tlw ii.iiiiiinenicni of our **/«/«/ iijfnir.i," (»ol nicreiy ccitinn local adiiir^ — not niiTi'ly mm li liaal alliiir.H ns ini* 4iov<'riii)r (ienerul inuy dt-fiii ol' adiif.alf iinpoihimc—UiH loral ai.aird Kniirmlly, iliilinu'inu all ol whaU'ver claBrt or (Icwripiioii. ) ( Loud clii-crH) — I) mmi,' ••niidncli d hy and willi the '* aaitintanco ro .iisri anil inj'.nmation" ot n. I'lovirici d Adi lllll^ll•atioll iind r llifl hrud oi tlic Cfuvcrniiicnt, tolir tor llw iiiiriinHc ot adoidiutr a uuaraiiicc " tluit tlio will- •indcrHloud wImIiuh and inlerf.siH ot tin* people elioidd, un till ori(i,-'s, lie taitlihd y reprr^Kiitcil hhiI atlrofottnl," ((Jreat elifiTM. ) How unn snchwiKhcH and iiiiiTo^tH be r«.'prea«!ntfd or advocat>d it tho."*"' who art; so to repn-scnt and advocaif ihiiii »u' not to be lonHiiltt-d, (Hear.) And yet in the tiu'e ot all liii , with the very Minie iireatli tlial it iti adiiiittud that " ii|)pointiiienln and jiropoHaJM to make ap|>llinllllent^4" had been made without consulting liis JVIini.^ter'-', the iiiad of tlie (Jo.iruineni is advi-ed to declare that he had hitherto pursued tiiu systeiii ot" UeHpoiisihIe (ioverniiicnt irilhoiit tlertation, (Hear, hear.) and lo profews his concurrence in the He-olulioiia ot" IHU. — And a ho|je appearn to be enlertuini'd tli;ii by a consinnt rejietiiion ot the as.Nertion in the shape ol anHwera to addresHCH, the people wt Canada have w) liiile ot intelligence and Bo crude a notion ut their righlH that they will at hiHi be iiersua.led lo believe it. (Hear.) He (Mr. Baldwin) doubled not ihal the head ol" the (ioverninent had praclised UeapoiiBible (rovernincnt an he the (.Jovernor (leneral was pi -Msed to interpret it — and of conr^e beiuy in his rstiination a ** i/f,l vniitjinfl tpirslion" we cannot wonder if in preparing a detiniiioii for liis own particular convenience he left a large margin tor the b -nelii of that Con.«iiiution which liivoun'd the exercise of a practically irresponsible and despotic jKiwer. IJut tie (Mr. Uidlwin) tult convinced tlial the people of lliis country were not hucU a nit of cliildren as to be salislied with a mere bauble because it was called ^' Urspon slide, (joreriniitiit ;" they hud been contending for a substance, not for a shadow. And the (|ueHiioii tor the country to decide, was whether they were in eltect to ao back to the old Rystein under the ntw name, or whether they were to have Responsible Cloverninent in reality, aa practically acted upon in the Mother Country, (lioud cheprs.) "Arose" it wan •aid, " by any other name would smell as sweel," anJ he would ventur" lo sny that the poppy would be equally disagreeable to the s nse, and equiilly del -terious in itn etiect, though dignihed with the name of the Queen of flowers, (eiitliusiu.stic cheers. ) If they were to have the old system, let them have it under its own name, '* the Irresponsible system," *' the Compact system," or any other adapted to its hideous detbrmitiee ; bat let us not be imposed upon by a mere name, we were adjured with reference to this new-fangled Responsible Government in a style and manner borrowed with no small degree of care from that of the eccentric Baronet who once represented the Sovereign in this part of Her Majesty's lioininioua, (8ir F. B. Head,) to "keep it," "cling to it," and not to " throw it away" ! ! (hear, hear.) They all, no doubt, remembered the story of little Red ridinLdiofid, and the poor child's astonishment and alarm, as she began lo trace the tcaiures of the wolf inst ad of those of her venerable grand- mother ; and I't the peopi? of Canad i beware lest wh^n they begin to trace thereat outlines of this new-fangled Responsible Government and are calling out in the simplicity of their hearts, Oh, gran Imother, whiit f,'ie.it bic eyes you have ! Oh, grandmother, what a great big nose you have ! it may not, as in the case of poor little Red ridinghood, be too late, and the reply to the exclamation Oh, grand- fnother, what a great big mouth you have ! be, " that's to gobble you up the better my child" — (cheers and much laughter. ) itt had been said that there is no /act before the country to show that the course taken by the late ..V!lnistry was connected with the practical application of this principle. But is it not clcArly stated in the note of Mr. Lafo.itaine, and not pretended to be disputed either in that of the Governor-General or in a ly subsequent docum-^nf proc.-eding from that distinguished quarter, '* that appointments and proposals to make appointments" haJ been made by the head of the Government without hi^ Counc'd bn igarJvis?d of It. Is not that ayoc'— and a tiict too at utter variance with th? statement, that Responsible Government has b-*en hitherto pursued " without deci/ition" to be found in Hit JExceUtncy*8 note and taat made in the answer which the bead of the Government I I 10 ha& been advised to make to the Brock addresn, (hear, hear), that " Respsnaibl* Governhieiil in all its essentials i» aikiiowlec'grd, ac'opted and laithfully pursued, and has been in full upcralion t/irot. gfiout liis Excellency's AdminiMtration." Sume who have made this objection, seem unable to comprehend the diflerenes between a /act - nd a case. A case is nut stated, because the ministry did not resign upon u coje, but iliey«c. But it was clear from the extracts he had read, and (he tindo>Bbled facfs (o- which he had referred, that the practice of the head of the GovcrnmerU, with respect Id ther point alluded to, had noi been consistent with the principle of Responsible Government as recommL'ndud by Lord Durham, and as enunciated in the Resolutions of 1841, and that had the Governor-General, on the conference which ensued upon the Minifsters* remonstrance, acquiesced in these views as to what ought to be the practice of thcr Government with respect to appointments, and objected merely to entering into any formal stipulation upon the subject, he would have soexplained himself to the Ministers^ and have so stated in his Note to Mr. Lafontaine, in which it is expressly stated that ^' ihree or more distinct propositions were made to him over and over again"— {hear, hear,) — sutiiciently showing the anxiety of Ministers to meet his views as to the mode of arriving at the object, provided that ol^ect was substantially attained, viz., the coming to a distinct understanding as to what ought to be the practice of the Government in this particular. (Cheers.) But this was the real ditTerence— the head of the Government was and is of one opinion, they were and are of another. He was and \a of opinion, aa the answer to the Gore Address distinctly avows, that he need only consult his Ministers on wliat he deems occasions of adequate importance, they were and are of opinion that his constitutional duty n to consult them on all matters, " except on points involving strictly Imperial interests." (Cheers.) But when the cause of the disruption is placed solely on the ^* stipulation-," it isfbvgotten that this was a ditficulty that could only have arisen, on the occasion of the lemonstraflce which took place the day before the retignatiou, whereaathe Governor-General himself has declared that he and his Ministers had been in a state of '* antagonism" from^hia first arrival in the Province. (Loud cheers.) Hew idle then is it to pretend that the question at issue between them, was any other than whether his views or their** were the most consistent with the real principle of Responsible Government, as recommended by Lord Durham^ and enunciated in the Resolutions of 1841. (Hear, bear.) Again : it had been said .hat the Ministry had resigned, because of a difference between them and tl. 3 head of the Grovernment, upon a mere theoretical question, and this allegi.^'on is made \a the very face of the statement in Mr. Lafontaine's Note, " that had the difference of opinion between his Excellency and themselves, and, as they have reason to believe, between his Excellency and the Parfiament and people of Canada generally, been merely theoretical, the members of th(. late ExecatiTe Council might and would have felt it to- be their duty to avoid any possibility of collision." (Cheers.) Again : it has been said that they hatf attempted to '-.rest from the Goveraor-Genetal the royal prerogative — to make him a tool and themse)><;c i .ovhI i.f every one. (hear, hear.) He believed all. or marly all |i«8 Assuredly not, — (cheers; — and that being the case the Governor-General has no right to exercise the prerogative of the Crown otherwise than at home. (Hear, hear) We contend (said Mr. Roulton) that the Governor shall rule by and with the advice of his constitutional advisers. This, however, is said to be inconsistent with the dependence of a Colony — but that he totally denied. He maintained that this principle was equally applicable to the Colo.iy as to the Mother Country, — (^choers) — and he would show the advantage of such a system as was contended for here. The Administration in this country claim to advise the Representative of Majesty on all subjects — he made no distinction — involving the well-being and happiness of the country ; and with regard to every local af!iiir they had an indubitable right to be consulted. Why should this be, it might be asked ? Because it was impossible for a Governor, coming here a stranger — and it would be worse if he were an old resident, subject to all the prejudices and acrimony of local parties — it would be impossible for him at once to know and weigh in a just balance the wants and necessities, the feelings and the wishes, of a population so widely extended as that of Canada.' He must therefore take advice from some one — and' who are likely to give it so well as those drawn from the Representatives of the people themselves? True, he may advise with the minority — but are they responsible? No, »hey are not," and it is responsibility we demand from the advisers of the Crown. It Was righf that the advice to be tendered to the Governor should be given by leading members of the majority of the Legislature — showing to the ])eople that they enjoy the confidence of the Crown. (Loud cheers. > It is only from them that the Governor General can Con.stitutionally receive advice. He [the hon. gen.] would like »o know, what Sir Robert Peel would say if, on going to Windsor to wait on Heif Hi 13 Majesty, lie were left in the ante-rocm, until Lnrtl Jchn nus^ell, or any other leaJing opponent of the Admini^tiaticn, iiad tiiiisshed a private uiuiience with lier MajoHty ? [Hear, hear.] He sai.l, without fear of contradiction, that Sir llobert Peel would have inf«tantly r^'^iJ:ned (flice and ihe only fault he had to find with his [Mr. Boulton'8] hon. friend in the chair, was that he did not do so, the very moment he wan so treated [Loud chetrf.] He was the last man to allude to the namen of imlividuals, hut he had heard of jjersons Mn^r consulted, who ought not to have interfered while there were Constitutional advi?«'rs in (.ffice. He maintained that no person had a right to be consulted by the Crown but the Administration. The Governor-General conceded their right, it was true, to bring in Bills in Parliament — but that waL« a very trifling n.atier; any one could do that. [Hear, hear] In his [Mr. Boiilton's] opinion, the goodness or tadness of laws depended more on the way in which they were carried out, than on the laws themselves — and if the laws were executed so as to give satisfaction to the people, it mattered li^le who introduced them to Parliament. — [Cheers.] It had been said that the Administration was only to be consulted on matter;' of " adequate importance," — but he [the hon. gen.] sail they were to be consulted on everything. [Hear, hear.] He maintained that the mode of consultation ought to be, by the Heads of Departments going to the Governor, and saying what the country wanted, and what they recommended to be done. Not by the Governor going to the Heads of Departments and telling them what he wanted done. [Loud cheers.] — He [Mr. Boulton] had been a hundred times in Downing Street, during the reign, of several Sovereigns, but he hnd never known an instance of a King going there and giving hia directions as to what he wanted done. [Laughter.] No, the Minister goes to the Sovereign and says 1 propose to appoint such a person to office, and then the question is shall he be appointed by the Crown or not. The Crown has an undoubted right to say to Sir Robert Peel, " you shall not appoint Lord Ashburton as Minister to the United States," or, " you shall not send the Duke of Bucclcuch to Russia." Her Majesty has a peifect right to do so ; but Sir Robert Peel has an equal right to say, " if your Majesty nas not confidence in my advice, I must resign." [liOud cheers.] "I cannot go before the Country, and show that I am a mere instrument— that 1 have no say in my own Department. If my advice is not taken, it proves I have not your Majesty's confidence." Now that was the exact system of the British Constitution, and which was acted on in the Mother Country; and he hoped that although he [Mr. Boulton] was an old man, he would yet live, to see it in full and successful operation, and that before long, in Canada. [Loud cheers.] He would not be content with any other system, or with anything short of it. [Hear, hear.] He did not say so from party feeling — the demand was right and proper in itself, and he advocated it from a stronger impulse than mere personal considerations. In or out of power, he wanted no favor from any party whatever— [cheers] — and, therefore, he was free to state all he thought on the subject. For the sake of the peace and prosperity of the Province, he trusted to see it acted on— he had very near said conceded — ^he did not like " concessions," the word stuck in his throat — (enthusiastic cheers) — it was only an honest debt due to us which they demanded. Mr. Baldwin had said, that the Administration has to endorse every Act of the Crovemment, and it was undoubtedly true. Now there were four Banks in Toronto, and they all knew that if they endorsed a note to get money at the Bank, and the promiser did not fulfil his promise and pay the note, the endorser mut,i meet the obligation — he must pay the note. [Loud cheers.] It was quite as serious a matter to endorse the Acts of the Government, as to put one's name on the back of a pretty large piece of paper. [Loud cheers.] Now, when they think the Government are likely to be de4ulters, it is full time for the Ministry to withdraw — to take their names off the paper before they are sued. [Laughter.] A complaint is made against the late Ministry that they resigned — now that they had a perfect right to do. They were not bound to remain guarantees for paper which they did not think could be met at maturity, so they resigned, and left room for befler men -if they rovld he found. [Loud cheering.] And for four months such meii had been sought for in every direction, but whether it was on account of the wooden character of the country, h« [Mr.BouItoa] could not sa;— but they had not been fpund yet. [Much applauM H'. 14 ■ .]! : i and laughter.] Perhaps they had not got en the proper " trail" yet. [Cheers.] For the last four months it had been often stated by parties opposed to us, that we had not come the length of being competent to govern our own affairs — that we are but children yet ! Now he [the hon. gentleman] considered it the greatest mistake — he had never seen children with such beards — childien of such large growth in his life— [Cheers] — they were very precocious children. The truth is, we are a Pkoplb ; and a people uf as much importance as Scotland was at the time of the union. [Loud cheers.] How absurd it would have been to have talked of the Scottish people at that time as children. Why, the man who woulJ have so spoken of them in those days, would have been apt to encounter the claymores of the descendants of Wallace and Bruce. [Enthusiastic cheers.] We are a million and a-half of people, mostly natives of Great Britain ; and our emigrating to the Western World for a wider field for our energies, is a proof that we are an enterprising people. [Cheers.] We do know how to conduct our own aflairs, and we will do so m a proper manner. The only safe principle for our government, is to take Lord Durham's invaluable Report as its basis. I do think that Report does its author immortal honour, and devolves on the people of Canada a heavy load of gratitude — [loud cheers..] Now, all that was wanted, was to have it honestly carried out. We have been accused [said Mr. Boulton] of agitating and producing diseenHion in the country, and preventing the views of Government being carried out. Now, if there has been improper agitation, it has come from our opponents : a small knot of persons here and there, to enable the govern- ment to carry on without responsibility, and to lay a foundation for clap trap answers, inducing people to believe that Responsible Government is fully accorded when everythmg possible is done to defeat it — [loud cheers] — I say it, Mr. Chairman, as on the house top, that not one of these " Replies" has ever rerognized the principle qf ResponsUde Government 11 [immense applause.] I fee! that a large majority of the Legislature will sustain the great principle, that the people are competent to conduct their own affairs, — and I trust that they will adopt measures to carry it out, and firmly to establish it in the country. [Cheers.] They are the greatest destructives who strive to keep this question unsettled, and I trust that the people will show at the Elections that they are satisfied it is so. The Hon. and learned gentleman resumed his seat amidst loud cheers. JOHN BOYD, Esq., had much pleasure in seconding the motion, was put by the Chairman, and carried by acclamation. The motion WILLL\M HUME BLAKE, Esq., follows : — rose to move the second resolution, as *' That Ministerial Responsibility to the people of this country for every act Executive connected with our local affairs, is an essential ingredient of our S. of the Constitution. It is a privilege to w^hich we have as undoubted a right as England herself. And without it the responsibility of the Head of the Executive to the people of England is no guarantee for our liberties." ; .owr— -?^i;'»!'.r- 1 • _ Mr. Chairman, if we are here assembled for the maintenance of no great constitu- tional right, if, as has been alleged, our only purpose be to thrust into office the members of the late Executive Council ; then we are in my humble judgment justljr chargeable with a very grave offence. For much as I should deprecate any capricious exercise of Her Majest-'s prerogative, in the change of Her Ministers in this Province, I must yet confess that I could not consider such capricious exercise of authority, without some other ingredient, a sufficient ground for our present appeal to the people, (hear, hear.) But if, on the other hand, it shall appear that the question at issue forms the very basis of all the liberties oi Canada, then I must take leave to deprecate the language of those who object against us, that our purposes are purely personal (cheers.) Is this country, or is it not, bound to entertain a grateful recollection of the man wlio has ever shewn that his country's rights are dear to him ; who has again and again relinquished office when it could no longer be held consistently with those rights (loud cheers.) Is this country, or is it not, permitted to give plain expression to those feelings ? Is it reasonable to require the people of this country to transfer a confidence which was never betrayed, to a set uf men who, having letained place and power, so lo.ip as they could be protected in that enjoyment bjr the favor of the Colonial Office in violation of the Constitution, in defiance of the 15 wishes of the people, now seek to be rrstoied to their former position, becausff^ fortiooth, they are at length pr<'piired to work out Ret-pontible iiovernnient (loud cheers.) Ftom such dociriiies 1 wholly disHont, and, bir, bt'iore 1 enter upon the particular subject of the resolution which has been handed to nie, 1 must ask permission thus publicly to discharge, what 1 regard as a public duly, in teapect- fully but cordially thanking you on behalf of my country, for those noble minded and patriotic exertions which secured for us the recugniiion of a principle without which we should, at this moment, have little title to the character of freemen, (enthusiastic cheers.) But, Sir, it is said that the question ot Responsible Government is undefinedi and knowing as we do, that it is to operate upon the ever varying combinations of hunwn atlairs, we admit that it is incapable of accurate defii.ition, we seek not ludehne it. But we wholly deny that this principle because incapable of accurate dehnition^ is therefore of little practical importance, or interest, to the people of the Province, (hear, hear, and cheers.) It is true that we are permitted through the medium of our representation, to enact such laws as may seem to us expedient. But it is equally true that the whole Executive power is vested in our gracious Sovereign, over whom neither we nor yet the people of England have any direct control. Our gracious Sovereign is in the eye of the law incapable of wrong. Unless then that executive power is exercised through the medium of Ministers, over whom we havo some^ control, through the medium of Ministers n-cponsible to us ; unless the Administration is correspondent to the Legi^lature, is it not most apparent that the Executive must ere long engross all the power ot Gdverninent, (hear, hear,) and will in etfect soon become despotic. But it is said that the head of the Executive Government here, is responsible to the people of England. Now laying out of vie^V for a moment, the practical ellect of this res^pontibility, which we shall consider by and by, we do now unhesitatingly assert, that however well htted such responsibility may be to deprive us of all shadow of liberty, it can never raise us to the rank of freemen. (Cheers.) What ! suppose 1 were to inform any farmer who hears me, that he must not presume to exercise any control over those servants to whom he may have entrusted the management of his property. Suppose I were to insist that every operation should be carried on at the will and pleasure of ihcEe servants, at the same time assuring this farmer, that he need not feel uneasy, as Lord Htaiiley's steward would, no doubt, compel those servants to do ih.Mr duty ; would that man, think ycu^ fancy for a moment, that he was the true proprietor of his estate. (Cries of no, no.) Would he not rather think that he was the t[&ve of Lord Stanley's steward, and that Lord Stanley's steward was the true proprietor of his estate^ (Hear, hear.) Or suppose I were to inform any merchant whom 1 address, that he must not presume to dismiss or even to reproach his clerks, who must be permitted to conduct the business of his establishment juet as they may think ht, but that he need not consider himself in any degree their slave, in as much as the Lord Mayor of London would compel a strict observance of duty. Do you not fancy that those clerks of the establishment would ere long become insolent? [Hear.] Can you not conceive this unfortunate merchant sometimes protecting, that this responsibility to the Lord Mayor of London, instead of bettering his condition did in fact subject him to a species of double-rehned slavery, the insolence of the clerk at home, and the capricious and uncertain interference of the self-constituted supervisor abroad. (Loud Cheers.) Leaving out of view then, for the present, this respoiiSibility to Enfland, which certainly forms no part of our liberties ; we must in honesty, and solemnly, as men speaking of what they hold most dear, declare to you, that so long as the Executive of the Fiovince fails to correspond with the Legislature— so long aa those large and discretionary powers necessarily vested in the Monarch, (and here we especially point to the distribution of offices and emoluments,) are administered by men in whom the people of this Province have no confidence, over whom they have no control, — so long we are robbed of the greatest privilege which the very nature of our constitution is designed to confer. (Cheers.) The whole body politic labours under a disease wide spread, mortal, which must end in dissolution* True, Sir, there are positive laws here, which the Executive must not infringe. But who can jconsider the subject for a moment, and not perceive that the Executive, without infringing any positive law, may yet, if it fails to sympathize with the people, act in a manner 00 foreign to the spirit of our institutions, as to pervert them 16 hil /rom their just ends. (Hear, Kear.) But why should we pause to denionstfaicf the possibility ol such result ? Who that has contvmpiuted our paet history, can have failed to perceive its practinil eltccl. liuve we not seen Adiuinistlrulion after Admiuistrution conducted noi only without the couhdeuce of, but in open opposition to the wishes of the Legibiaiure ,- and have we not seen that tttate of tuiiigs lead lb its inevitable result 7 The hiuuous disorder in which we have had the iniBfoi-tunc io have been involved. I am nut prone, Sir, to reler to the dictum ot any man, for the purpoa^ of justifying our demand upon mere authority. We have heard one to whom this Province certainly owes nmch, [1 mean Lord Durham] declare, that he did iibt pretend to decide upon the polio/ of grunting to Canada rcpreaentaiUe iiistitutiona — language this, which t-hould never have escaped the lips oi an Lnylishman^ 1 must oo.ifeM myself therefore, indisposed to hx upon the wordmg oi a despatch, Or a resolulioni for the purpose of fonifymg our rightsi Such a course may be highly proper in aettiing mere questions of form i but those essential rights which we now uemand, rest on the basis of eternal justice, upon which no resolution, however Constitutional, can morO firmly establish them, from wluch no despatch however artfully worded can ever remove them. And yet. Sir, 1 cannot forbear to cite a passage or two from the writings of as great a philosopher and as eminent a statesman as ever graced the English Senate, I mean Mr. Burke, an authority to which even dur opponents wiH defer : , ,'** It is therefore next in order and equal in impoitance that the discretionary powers which are necessarily vested in the Monarch, whether for the execution of the laws, or for the nomination to magistracy and otKce, or for conducting the aH'airs of peace and war, or fur ordering the revenue, should all be exercised upon public principles and national grounds, and not on the likings or prejudices, the intnguei) or pohcies of a court. This I said is equal in importance to the securing a Government according to law. The laws reach a very little ^way. Constitute Government how you please, infinitely the greater part oi it must depend upon the exercise of the powers which are left at large to the prudence and uprightness of Ministers of State. Even ail the use and potency of the laws depends upon them. Without them, your Commonwealth ia no better than a scheme upon paper, and not a living, actual, effective Constitution. It is possible that •hrough negligence, or ignorance, or design, artfully conducted. Ministers may suffer one part of Government to languish, another to be perverted from its purposes, and everv valuable interest of* the Country to fall into ruin and decay, without the possibility oi fixing on waf single act, on which a criminal prosecution can be justly grounded< ' *' Nothing indeed will appear more certain on any tolerable consideration of th4 matter, than that every sort of Government ought to have its Administration correspondent to its Legislature. If it should be otherwise^ things must fall into ait hideous disorder. The people of a free Commonwealth, who have taken Bach care that their laws should be the results of general consent, cannot be so senseless as to suffer their executory system to he composed of persons on whom they have nd dependence, and whom no proofs of the public love and confidence have recommend^ to these powers, upon the use of which the very being of the State depends. " Tke popular dection of magistrates, and popular disposition qf rewards and honovrs, is one of the first advantages qf a free State. Wttkout it, or sonuMng SnticaUnt to it, perhaps the people cannot long enjoy the substance qf fret, mt ertaimbj twrne of tke vilifying energy qf good ISovernmenli" But, Sir, it is said that the responsibility of the head of the Executive to the people of England, is the surest guarantee of our liberties ; nay, the only guars ice which ^e can have consistently with our position as Colonists. That such Ian niage should fall from the lips of noble Secretaries of State ; that tliey should consider a simple declaration of ministerial approval as a sufficient sanction for any violation of oni rights however flagrant ; nay, that such passing notice of oui- humble condition shpul^ be regarded as the proper object of our gratitude, would not much surprise us. And we would not feel disconcerted even though we should find such language faintly echoed by the people of England. But that there should be found in this country any inan degraded so low, as to pander to this lust of despotic powe^-^f cheers]— that there 17 ftlould be found any mnn base enough to bnrtfr his own, his chiltiren's dearest right, for some paltry present advantny liow can such things be and not hll Ua with wonder? [Lou J chetrs.] Rcsponeibility to the people of Eujirland, forsooth ! What I does not the Crown co.isiitiite here the third branch of the Legislature, as in En^ldud ? Is not the Legislative Council, our second l^ranch nominated by the Crown, as in England ? Are not the jirerogatives of the Crown us inviolate here as in England? And atn I to be told that all those strong, those natural ties to the parenc state, must be regarded as nothing, unless we al.-io consent that tlic Government of this country be conducted by ministers over whom the peopli? of the country have no control ? 1 say sir that this right must not be conceded by the people of Cauada ; nay it must not be conceded even though the Commons of England were disposed to exercise it with the utmost impartiality and vigor, — it i a concession no less repugnant \«t the liberty of Canada to grant, than unworthy the greatness of England to demand. We desire, indeed earnestly desire, to be united to England, but it must be by ties of which freemen need nut be abliumed — England cannot wish, and we must not consent, to be bound as slaves. [Cheers.] But sir we utterly deny that the right of controul, if conceded, would even be exercised by the people of England with impartiality or vigor; well fitted to secure operated, and never We have indeed seen has the will the demand of a noble Lord some account of a rapacity almost age of Roman despotism, — rapacity which during a tiew brief and history shall have raised her warning voice for us to little purpose, if $ihe failed to convince us that such controul, however aggrandizement of the Parent State, has yet never operate as a shield to the liberties of the Colonist. people of England unparalleled in the _ years had amassed wealth sufHcient to arouse the envy of the ancient and privileged nobility of England. But with what result 7 Why at the very hour-— -the very moment when the Commons of England were engaged in the solemn investigation of that heinous offence. — At that very hour and moment, the Kini; of England was desecrating the venerable temple at Westminster, by bestowing upon that Governor the highest honor which the crown of England could confer. But it may be said that the circumstances of our country, nay its very poverty, (I have heard less tenable arguments urged) sufficiently protect us from the iron grasp of rapacity, and that such instances as I have aiduced are therefore uninstructive. Let us then contemplate some of the enormities of the immediate successor of that Governor of the Indian Empire of England ; for the purpose of satisfying ourselves whether that Responsibility of the head of the Executive Government to the people of England, on which we are asked to rely, can be justly regarded as any guarantee of our rights. Look then at Warren Hastings, confessedly the man who contributed most to the aggrandizement of the power of the Parent State, and tell me whether he was found scrupulous in the preservation of the rights of the people of India. Accompany him to the palace of Fylzabad, and witness those ag^oniea flrom which neither the weakness of age, nor the infirmity of sex, nor the dignity of tank could protect the venerable Princesses of Oude. Follow him to the dungeons of Lucknow, and hear an English Governor General in the name of the British Government; consign to months of unpiticd, unrespited, unreprieved torture, the aged and faithful attendants of those noble ladies, for no other reason than that he might wring from them, that treasure with which he designed to satisfy the tinbounded rapacity of Englishmen, — with no better apology than that his victim had not the means of resistaace to his power. Contemplate the people of England transplanting into British India, English Jadge5i, and those forms of English justice which the experience of ages had approved, in order tha*. the blessings of civilization might be distributed over that vast Empire, and every truly British heart will swell with honest pride at the display of so much magnanimity. But behold this Governor-General of India— "i!A« vpright and nobU'hearted English Gentleman," [cheers] — reach forth his hand to pollute what had been designed a fountain of light and life, from which unnumbered blessings aliOuM flew to the remotest corners of the land ! Behold him reach forth his hand and pollute that fountain, till its bitter waters spread desolation and death wherever they reached ! Picture to yourselves an English Governor daring enough to ask, and an English Jhdge bb^e enongh to sell himself to degrade his oflicc into an instrument of «Be of the foulest judicial murders which ever disgraced the annals of that, or any other c 18 country, and I ask whether the refponBibilityofthc Governor GenermI to the Cominoaft of England was of any avail to gunrd thi> rights uf the people of India? When I look at England erecting in India a great military power, for the purpoie •# protecting her eubjects in that vaot Empire from foreign aggreaeion, and procuring for them the enjoyment of that BriiiHh freedom which has secured to England hen«lf happiness eo unbounded — greatness so unpnrulleled— I strive not to repress thai palriotie pride which 1 am free tu corifeBs I cannot control. But when I behold a' Britiab Governor of British India — when 1 see the man chosen to bear the messaae of peae«and freedom from the English nation to their fellow subjects of India — when 1 see that man place the military power uf England under the control of a blood«lhirsty tyrant, not to secure those blessings of peace and freedom, for which it was designed, but to the end that that tyrant might, tn a moment without control, pour all the horror of Indian warfare upon the happy valley of Rohileund. When 1 see a British army pieced under the command of an Indian despot, that the noble, the happy, the peaeefil Rohillaa, might, at one blow, be subjected to the sway ot a ruthless, a debauched tyrant, I ask myself is this Tcgponsibility to England then, the guarantee oflvred «»f*t the preservation of our rights 7 What ! when I see the Majesty of England condescend to receive with favor th« man guilty of all these enormities, when I hear that the man who perpetrated these foulest crimes against the people qf India, was pronounced by the nobles of England to have committed no crime against the laws ot England, no crime against the justice of the English nation. When I read these things, shall any stigma which the foul breath of scandal can fix upon me — shall uny punishment which the frail arm of mortality can inflict, deter me from asking whether we have not a right as men to denMmd some other guarantee for our liberties ? Shall any man dare to tell me that I niu«t. not ask the people of this Province whether they are prepared to relinquish that control over their servants, which the reason and justice of England has conceded, and to accept in its stead a re;^ponsibility to the people of England of which we have beea considering the baneful results? Did 1 believe that the people oi* the Province would hesitate for one instant on the alternative (hear, hear,) sad would be my foreboding*. But it is booause I am contident that the mind of this people is fixed. It is becauM I am conscious that the demand of this sacrifice is not the demanii, is not the language of England, but of men resident amongst us, traitors to their country and their nghts^ It is because I entertain the utmost confidence, in English love of justice, andCanadiai| love of liberty, that I am enabled to address you in this crisis of our afTaim, foil of cheering hope (enthusiastic cheers. ) The loud complaints which are ut'ered agninat men who ask nothing but their undoubted rights, is not the language of genuine love of British greatness and British liberty, it is the foul offspring of flnttery and slander. It is tlw language of men who being conscious that they have no place ia the confidence or afl'ection of the people of the Province, strive to acqaire place ami power by means as little known to the Constitution, as they are base — by flatterite to the Colonial Minister, as degrading as their slander of their fellow snbjecta i« nuiKg» (loud bursts of applause. ). But, Sir, hardly can we make mention of the rights of Canada. Scarcely do we speak of a constitutional struggle for the preservation of our privileges, befoie the finger of scorn is pointed at us, as though this Province were so degraded in the scale of things, that every attenipt to make its voice heard amongst the people of the earth, nad only rendered it a fit object of ridicule. [Hear, hear.] We have indeed been told by one eloquent, and I suppose I ought to add, " noble hearted Goventor^" [hear, hear,] that a single parish in London; nay, a single English noble ta poMcaaed of more wealth than our poor Province can boast. And, because I sumiom it would be disloyal to allow the hints of '* those noble hearted Enfliab gcntlemea" lobe thrown away, it seems to have become a fundamental maxim with a certain claijf» of politicians, that the connexion of this Province with the British Empire ta good of such infinite magnitude, as to supercede the necessity, nay to leave no room for the assertion of those common place blessings of liberty, (at which U^ nations of the earth have ever struggled. [Loud cheering.] Allow us, say they, \^ continue an integral part of the British Empire, and all other privileges arc ia owr- estimatioa light as air. Let us but form a portion of that glorious Empire—to t|)v winds with that liberty which England herself so dearly prizes. To the wjad with 19 •eoT gfor •rielf iotie itiab sand that rant, but or of aeed ;efil ehed • f*» th« licse land itice foul tlity luat trcl I to een ga. ige kta. of lat ne nd ia nd :ta of Ml ft d it that portion of it which the justice of England hna already conceded to uo. Let it too be reaumed. Only permit us to call ourselves an integral part of the British Empire, and it iaeiiougL [Loud cheering.] Sir, appeilutions have been freely applied to us for the asaertiou of our honest cuavictioiu — we must not condcHCend to bandy names with any man or body of men, no matter liow dignified their Htatlon. But thus nmcii we may venture to say, that this ia not language to be listened to by freemen, [hear, hear,] those are not the sentiments of Britons ; llioso are not the aentiments which have laid so deep the foundation of British liberty, upon which the splendid fabric of British greatness has been reared. [Loud cheers.] Nay, Sir. it ia not the language of England towards this Province. For she has solemnly and repeatedly conceded to us, that right of controul over our Provincial Executive, without which we are but slaves. [Great applause.] We, therefore, tell those reasoners that they belie the greatness and the justice of England, in attributing to her such sentiments. We solemnly protest against the violation of our sacred rights, in direct opposition to the wishes of the English nation. Let as then hear no more of our insignificance m this our struggle for freedom. No man, nobody of men, contending for liberty can ever be regarded as insigniiicant. 8uoh a Spectacle is insignificant, only to the coward slave, who knows not wherein the true dignity of man consists, (hear, hear.) It will be hailed by every true hi.rtcd Englishman as a spectacle the most signiticant. lie will rejoice to see the budding forth of those seeds of liberty, which it is the glory of England to have planted over the fflobe. [Cheers.] Were we to apply to an English Statesman to know whether it became us to surrender the rights which England herself had conceded to ni without raising an opposing voice — lest forsooth ! our insignificance should excite a imile of contempt. The magnanimity of the English Statesman would inform us, that a million and a half of men must not silently witness the spoliation of their property, least of all of their rights. It would point us to Prussia, resisting such a combination of Europe and Asia, as in (he estimation of some men, had rendered her truly insignificant The English Statesman would tell us of that country with a population of less than 5,000,000 strugg-ling with the combined forces of France, Austria, Russia, Denmark, Sweden, and the States of Germany. Struggling, during seven years of bloody war, with a population of one hundred millions, oVer which it eventually triumphed, [loud cheers.] Or perhaps, we should rather be pointed to England herself, when, after ten years of unceasing war — after a struggle, marked by great misfortunes, aa well as unparalleled burthens — she not only found herself, after the defection of all her ailies, opposed, single-handed, to the giant strength of Fmnce —but saw moreover a combination of all the Northern powers — of Russia, her former ally, of Prussia whom she had protected, all leagued, as one man, with France, her implacable enemy, and striking a death blow at her naval greatness. [Enthuiastic cheers.] Did England shrink from a view of her own insignificance ? Let the cannon of Copenhagen — let the immortal triumphs of tl^e immortal Nelson answer the enquiries. [Thunders of applause and great cheering.] These, Sir, were the armed struggles of nations for existence. But surely our peaceful constitutional struggles for our rights and privileges should not be regarded as less noble. I require not, Sir, to be informed of the greatness of Britain, or the weakness of Canada. Born mnd educated as I have been on British soil, I take a pride in the power of Britain, which few of those who assail us can he expected to feel. (Cheers. ) Nor do 1 require to be. taught to love British connection, to seek the perpetuation of Biiiish greatness. These sentiments have been ingrained in my very nature. They have grown with My.gvowth, and strengthened with my strength. They are ties. Sir, stronger — dearer than I dare venture to express. [Loud cheers.] The hand of tyranny may radely sever the bond which unites this land of my adoption to the Empire, it can have 1^ power to rob me of those filial feelings towards Britain, my country, over which I fondly hope that the grave itself shall have no control. But shall I permit those ssorra considerations to be profaned by being used as arguments to induce me to surrender my essential rights as a freeman England cannot wish, and certainly she has no right to preserve the integrity of the empire by such a sacrifice. And I hesitate ttot to declare that much as I glory in the power of Britain, much as I admire her unparalleled greatness, I had rather see them mouldering in the dust, than i«ij[»portcd by an infringement of those Constitutional principles of liberty upon which lii 20 they were foundrd, and with wliicli I even dare to hope that (hey will fall. [TfaiV flo |uenl and learned gentleman buI down amidat loud and long continued burau of applauae. ] WM. L. PERRIN. Esq., [Mcrclmnt] said : Mr. Clmirnmn, I have great pleasurtf in coniiiig forwurd to secnmi the resolution so ably moved by my friend, Mr. Blake. After the eloquent H}iee(;h he Im8 detiv)-red and seeing so many Gentlemen aroond me, who are waiting to adilresH you, and who can do much more justice (o (he cauM than 1 can, it would be |)re8umptuou8 in me to take up the time »*' this meeting. ., JAMES IIEIIVEY PRICE, Esq., M. P. P., rose and said : Mr. ChairiiiHn, — A much wiser man than myself has declared, that there is a time to speivk and a tiini! to bj silent — nn.l after the very elo luent and talented apeeehef which have this night been delivered, and from the knowledge that gentlemen equallV talented with those who Iiuve preceded me, are to address the meeting, 1 think 1 ahall best consult your wishes and convenience, by moving the Resolution I hold in my hand, in silence. Here Mr. Price was interrupted by universal cries of go on, go on. After silence was restored, Mr. Price said, I would most cheerfully speak to the motion^ were it not that 1 fcur from the number of speeches which are to follow, the ti,me and patience of the meeting will be entirely exhausted; I therefore do hope that I may b« periiiittrd simply to move the Resolution, and nuke way for the Hon. Mr. Sullivan. Mr. Price then read the Resolution and took his seat, upon which the meetuif simultaneously and with one voice called on him to speak. He again rose, and •• soon as the cheering had subsided snid, gentlemen, I am not inaensible to the flattering manner in which you have received me this night, but 1 am equally sensible of Ih* great inconvenience you suflcr in the very crowded state of the meeting, and tbt excessive heat of the room; and I do implore you to allow me to be silent, so that th«' gentlemen around me may have an opportunity of delivering their sentiments. I am ' at all times ready to address you, and other opportunities will present themseWes, I have lately spent two or three weeks in the country attending public meetings, whenf union and harmony prevails universally amongst the friends of British Responsibly Government, and on those occasions 1 have found it very ditflcult indeed to condense) my thoughts within proper limits, and I fear now that if 1 were once to commencf speaking to the Resolution entrusted to me, that I should far exceed the limits that prudence would dictate, from Tne fact of the Resolution being replete with interest and constitutional principles. Gentlemen urge me no longer, and believe me that at the close of this meeting you will say with me, that it was better that I held my peacey than that others more eloquent should be prevented addressing you. Mr. Price agaii^ resumed his seat amidst immense cheering. ** 3. That the full establishment of such responsibility as recoimnended by If the repetition and imiiation of 'he same line of argument which must in all cases be wenrisome lo the hearers, but which is, nevertheless, not to be avoided when many speakers address an audience on the same subject, and un the same side. We are nil apt in coming tn cnncloNinnn on political doctrines, tn ndnpt as Aniversidly npplicnide, m:ixims which admit of exceptions to their appliciihility, and we thereby mo often expoi^e ourHclvcs to be met in nrgiiment by a displny ot the exceptions, — a disphiy which often gives nn adversary n victory in the dispute, without his having in fact, the best side of ibe cnse. Yon are now reccmmencing a struggle to estaltlisb your right, as iriiish C>donists, to Constitutional freedom, and it is, therefore, incumbent upon yon, not only to consider your own strength, but lo exnmiite with a desire after truth, the arguments which may be arrayed nirainst yon, |ur he is a poor general who knows only the strength «d his own army. fHear, hear.} ••'It. is not universally true. Gentlemen, that nil British subjects are entitled iOf or can havA British Constitutional liberty; or that all Coloides nre entitled to, of ean hnve n Constiinrion the imnge nnd rratiscript of that nf the Pnren State For example, the British Empire has for tfiihjects and eolonisis, millions o< people in the East Indies, who, from centuries of slavery, tyranny, and despotic rule, have become, and are incapable of exercising the rights of British sulyectx, m the extended sense of ihnt term. They wni t the education, the inlormntion, the hnbii, nnd ike love of free institatinns ; nod, ihereiore, it would be vain to het'tow these bleB»ings upon a people, who could neither appreciate nor use them. It is true that the went •f the understanding and of the pusseesion of Constitutional liberty, has exposed that 111 22 f«npl« to nj>*r\tf aiHl rrufliy, to rapine and irrindmr npprpnion, which lanfiiaf* wtiiilJ r|iily luiiiiil Imi it litrlilt* Iturrifr ; Inii ii is no \vn» iriie ihat lh*>a« •Vila uitiiiiiil HI |irt*iitiiii liiivti till ir rniiiily in ii pn anil cxieii-ini lu tlinl country of ih« Uriiikh Cttiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, itr liy iitr>rtlMit/ nii itfnoriiiii lifiiiuliied people ■ control over their WWII g'lViiriiiiHiiH, uvmi iia nguiiJM liiiMr own locul uliuira. ,. j . ^^ ,^, ,» > f.„ri In aiii'h n riMiiliiinii oC n coiKinrrrit prupto, it ia cvi(l«*nlly thi* duty of the auprrmt Slate to tiiriiiMli (i .vxriiorM iiiiH CMiiK-ilhirn, wlin, rt'yardlfvn o( popnlnr will, and in ihe exii'i'ioe of pnwiT, locnlly iiiitiniii«*d iind uiirfairnined, would sdminialer foveriiiiiriii ptrluiMly iiitlfpi-ndiiit o(° ilio wiphra, nnd iiiiiifl«^rf nt ns to the opiniuna *>( ihv K"**'''"'"' pvopltt. Ill Hiirli II i-iiHu ilittre in UrHpoiiMiblc (.iiivernnirnt. The Gofemor and Ilia iiiiponeil Coiiiirilliirx iir«> ri!NpiHiiiiM«<,— i|i«i piilijiu aervnma are rei^ponaihle t but lliity lire unawurHhli* only lo the (•ovorniiieiii and people of Riiglnnd. True ifaig respoiiiibiliiy liaa ul'irn hi'uii ly could pctiiinn ihe Sovereign, — they might pu»ailiiy he hoard hehm* thi- IniptMiiil Pnrliuiiient, nnd if they in tact tound no redreaa, «nd could uhiain no hi^ariiiK, the Cfovornnifnt, even biid aa ii ia, ia betierihan any •iMoyrd l»y the aiini«i puopio bctore, oiid perhups, as good aa they are capable of tiijoying. (Ilt-ar. Iieai.) Ia there not too nuu-h room for u» to aiipposr, that educntfd in auch a achoni, and kecuatomed to auch rcaponsibiliiy.ilic hii^h and resprcted individual wh6 now rules over UK, ninv have hroiight liia notions of Irre Gitv«rninent from ihe Enat and not frmn KHiUiid : ihnt lie niiiy hnw, in thai di«ttini Goveninfni, learned to deepiie the puliiival opniioiia thai divide a free people, an>i in hold in contempt the respective parliea and ihoae who ure admitted to lead them ; that he may ihii* have learned to aay, I want no pariiea, no puriy men, no party measured ; I will judge what is good tor the people myseli; I will recosnizo no confidence bestowed upon C'viunista : I will not be a tool. ^Hear, hear.) ,- , But are yo\i, gentlemen, moat of you nntivea of the metrnpoliian portion of the Empire which giive birth to the Guvernor and 'o Wm griicioua MistreM ; are you who •re the n uvea of Canuiln, and who have neiit kepreKenianves to the Lesfislalure for Mear fifty year* ; do you Hdmit yourselves to he unworthy to have opinions on yomr own affairs, 'o feel deeply pohtical differences, to judge for yourselves which party among yuunnelves, think und net most for your own interests; are you of harbariiln or shivish trib4>s, or will you, upon any o| ihese charges, permit yourselves to be deprived of the rights if iJriiish suhjectsT I feel th:it ym will not, and no matter where your rulvrs in>iy hiive leunit.d ih'ir p<>liiio!i, or >iow deeply they are imbued wiib these prt'jiidives, you know loo well what is due lo yourselves, and to the ebUdren to whom y.tu will leuire ihM M > •:» i^ ^' I't'i'Ty a i.l its political liberties •• a fair inheriiauce, to subiaa to sucii dfgrdduiion. (Loud cheers.) ,,. ^ ^ ,., There may, however, he another class oi Tolonieit, to the inhabitanlt hf whlcV^ might be iiuprticticabltf or unwise to extend the blessins of British liberty. Tb« innabitanta might be comiucred enemies, whose obedience is enforced by the sword, and whose affections are not gnincd. or whose enmity is not appeased. The ooiigaiion to govern such a people with justice still exists, and there may be responsibility to the supreme Government and people, for the sdniinistnitioM of aAiii* in auch a po8ses>ion, while it is noc easy to see how the prhril«>fc* of the Bittish eonaii'ution could he s«fely extended M them. But will yttv admit of tWa •• %n excuse for arbitrnry rule in Cnn tdu, one of the oldest colonies of Eugland, vrbaso pe4»ple havw been fai'hiul and true, in war and peace, in prusperitv and ia Vik«l4»loN T Will you. whose vle hrgin to ariilr i>) an almiiet uiiiiihahiied founiry ; when thry import thuir couocillorM itnd ihrir piihlic oflicera, /ree^Ai^— for tliey have nothing to ilo ; and while ihu nuinltitr of inhnhitnnia am too amiill, and their politica too innignifit'iint, either to woi);h ngninot the opiniona dI Oovemora or the Imperini intereat in tho^o who nro to come after, it may not h« unwiae to withhold liom them in their firat Ntnigi^le lor existence aa a community, political diapiitea, or to allow whnt it itselt piini>h buiineis, to aa«unie the dignity and importance of political adminintration. It is Biruntfe thnt it in in this light, moat Engliahmen are in the hahit of regarding^ these Coluniea; they look upon them eaeentially as infants ; they play with them, they fondle them, they give them aufar pliima, and they acnd ilifm nni;e schoulmnsterv, and tell ihem to be good boys. (Laughter.) But as lur iliiiiking for ihcmvelves—thfse infant ('olonisia i— such a noti'ii never entera the head of the Eiiglidhman. It ia true, the wise ones aay in Eiigliind. they (the Cotonie^i) cannot be infiints for over, let us watch the time, and when the boya come to their mnjority, let them go. (Lnughter.) When suck aeniimenta prevail reapecting Colioiies, it is not wonderful that every asaertion uf Conatituiional right ia deemed an attempt at separaiioti ; every claim on the part of % Colonial to equality with an Englishman, an attempt to prove the maturity of th« Colony, and to eatablidh its sepaniie independence. It is not that any poeaihie reiatioa can be traced between a deoire for local reHponsihiliiy, or fo. contml over local ttdininiatratiun, and discontent with the Colonial State, or w ish to dissolve it. No, thia longing alter the righu of Englishmen is looked upnn as n mnrk ul manlincaa, of fuliieaa of age; ol ripeiiois whii-h muat cause the Irnit to drop fnmi the parent tret h ia therefore, thai we find ao In tie aiipport in the Biitisli Pre^a ; iio little aympatkjr amongst British statesmen; because it is olten said -it is odmiited to be true, that Colonioa are infanta and must be governed as sui-h ; and as in a school he is )ke beat i>oy who niakea the leaat noiae, so in a Colony thev are the heat suitjecia who give the Colonial Secreiarv the least trouble. (Hear, hear,) When did you ever aeo a aerioua inquiry aa to which of two quarrellint; children were in the right, or whero have you read of a aerious investigation aa to which of two partiea in a Colony ka4 justice on its aide 7 (Cheers.) ';>.); r < .• . M,t^ )»i(» «^ foiwijjiiwvi Lord Durham «vaa almost the firat Englif>limrin of high station who appeara to have conceived the possibility of Colonials thinking for themselves and rrmainiif Culd it have been for Ciinado, if all its , ole hnd seen and admitted th^ inevitable consequences ; and all agreed to set this queftion of Rfisponsibie Government at rest, lor ever after that great meuaure. (Hear, hear.^ Squabhiea with Governora, and little intrigues in the Government ought to have hea Ml end. We ahould have left it to the infants ol Nova Scotia, to have Bxeeutiye Councils, in which all parties wen^ represented; and to our younger brethren qf New Bninawick, their wonder struck admiration at the salvotion ol the Coitnliy, through meana of Answers to the .Men of Gore. (Loud cheers ) We ahonfd haTit laughed at auch toys, as fit foi children, and remembered that, whether Whig, or Radical, or Tory, or Conaervative, the Country required united and vigorous administralloa of ila local alKiirs ; and that we had outgrown tiie day when these coold be manageq iHlder the Tristrapedia of under Secretaries, or tlio ** make less notap c)|itdreq*^ policy of Governors General. (Hear, hear.) 'Z - Fnisla are entitled to the riglits •f Eni^men ia univeraal in Canada, and that it exists with the ToryM««UM 24 thfl Reformer. Tlioso wlio bctrny ilie Governor, bj' cheering him on fo a contest with UB, huvu no di'sire lo eih hiu (irl)itrary will on ihe niinn of relorni^t ii lh«iii!ii.'lve8, iinil itii'ir |iarty iluy woiild set to nileo\e: us. ([leiir, hcnr.) It ii not M Citnadiuii LoloiiifiH, lint iis Rctoinier." you nre Kx-kt'd upon Ity ihf-ni as iinwurihy ot Ihe rigltiR of Englisliineii ; do n<.t imngine that lircauxe these nifn sre au Buh« niiSMive now to ilie Goveriior'8 iiiiuipretniii of lite • on! (Loud tht